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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1993 07-20• • MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL AGENDA TUESDAY, JULY 2Q1, 1993 - 7 :30 P. M. CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING HELD JULY- 6, 1993: tAPPROVED) 1: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING TO R-8 WITH PRELIMINARY PLAT, FOTHERGILL SUBDIVISION, BY EWING COMPANY: tAPPROVED - ORDINANCE TO BE PREPARED) 2: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING TO R-4 WITH PRELIMINARY PLAT, SADDLE VIEW ESTATES, 73 LOTS BY DICK CON CORPORATION: tAPPROVED - ORDINANCE TO BE PREPARED) 3: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A 2G UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX KNOWN AS CEDAR CREST BY CHARLES WARD: tAPPROVED - ORDINANCE TD HE PRE~RED) 4: PUBLIC HEARING: RE@UEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING TO R-4 WITH PRELIMINARY PLAT KNOWN AS LOUNSBURY LANE SUBDIVISION PLUS VARIANCE TO CULDESAC LENGTH BY CRIS D. WILLIAMS: tFINDINGS APPROVED - ANNEXATION - °r64P~F4 ) 5: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR REZONE 13.5 ACRES FROM R-4 TO R-8 AND 2.89 ACRES FROM R-4 TO LO WITH A PRELIMINARY PLAT KNOWN AS MIDTOWN S@UARE, 46 SINGLE FAMILY BUILDING LOTS AND 3 LIMITED OFFICE LOTS BY STEVEN K. RICKS: tAMENDED FINDINGS TO BE PREPARED) 6: PUBLIC HEARING: RE@UEST FORA CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT LOCATED AT 415 E. BROADWAY, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONE FOR THE NORTHWEST LINEMAN COLLEGE BY SHANE PORTER: tAPPROVED) 7: PUBLIC HEARING: RE@UEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING TO R-4 BY NELSON AND MYRNA BERRY: tAPPROVED) 8: RE@UEST FOR CONSIDERATION OF A NEW ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARKING BY CHARLES LIGGETT: tDISCUSSION HELD) 9: REQUEST BY CARLENE SPITLER FOR APPROVAL OF BEER AND WINE LICENSE, KNOWN AS MARGRETTES HACIENDA: tAPPROVED) iat: DEPARTMENT REPORTS DIAN CITY COUNCIL DULY ~G. I993 The Regular Meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order by Mayor Grant P. Kingsford at 7:30 P. M. Members Present: Ron Tolsma, Bob Giesler, Bob Corrie, Max Yerrington: Others Present: Mr. 8 Mrs. Charles Liggett, Dave Haymond, Bill Narver, Marla Hanners, Carlene Spitler, Margaret Schag, Dennis Werner, Kathy Hofkins, Joe Simunich,~Gary Lee, John Barnes, Don Hubble, David Collins, Steve Ricks, Linda Sharpton, Johnnie Sharpton, Helen Watts, Shane Porter, Gerald Mackey, Terry Hibbard, Nelson Berry, Wayne Crookston, Wayne Forrey, Bruce Stuart, Gary Smith, Janice Gass: MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING HELD JULY 6, 1993: The Motion was made by Giesler and seconded by Tolsma to approve the minutes of the previous meeting as written: Motion Carried: All Yea: Kingsford: Welcomes Boy Scout Troops #~10 and #79 to meeting. ITEM #i: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING TO R-8 WITH PRELIMINARY PLAT, FOTHERGILL SUBDIVISION, BY EWING COMPANY: Kingsford: At this time I will open the public hearing and invite the owner or representative to speak first. Gary Lee, JUB Engineers, ~5-0 So. Beechwood, Boise, was sworn 6y the attorney. Lee: This application before you tonight is for annexation, rezone and the preliminary plat. The property is situated next to Meridian Road to the east, south of the South Slough drainage on the north and the Jackson Drain to the south which also ties to Blue Heron Lane. There's a development under construction right now to the east of us called Tract Subdivision. Meridian Place #3 lays to the southeast and the Chief Joseph School is about a quarter mile east of this project site. Currently the site is comprised of about 50 acres of irrigated pasture with one single residence on the property. This home is the Fothergill home. This is adjacent to the city limits on the east and the west boundaries. North Meridian Road provides access to this parcel at the west side of the project, which will be the main entry into the subdivision. The developer is requesting that the property be coned R-8 residential, however the density as planned MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL JULY 20, 1993 PAGE 2 for this 50 acres is less than the 4 units per acre.- The purpose for the R-8 zoning is to allow us some flexibility and dimensional standards of the lots. The project will consist of 184 residential family living units, there will not be any duplex units on this property. The minimum size of the houses will be 1300 square feet and up. Price range probably in the range of >;80, 000.00 to Sic^0, 000.00. Explained city services available - see tape) Streets to ACRD Standards, there will also be a collector street that will come off of Meridian Road known as Woodbury Drive. The plan at this point is to develop an open landscaped access way or bike path along the Jackson Drain to comply with the City of Meridian's requirements for open space. Kingsford: When I talked to Mr. Ewing a week and a half ago he indicated there's a possibility that you'd have a preliminary sketch of that, is that available tonight? Lee: We had hoped it would be but is not ready yet. We hope to have that within the next ten days to submit to the City for review. The plan with that open space bike path is to traverse along the Jackson Drain and cross Woodbury Drive to the north and tie into what would be the South Slough bike path which would be the main artery. I'd be glad to answer any questions. Giesler: The Jackson Drain will be tiled or left open? Lee: Well at this point and time we're working with the concept of leaving it open and the architect is going to come up with some plans for landscaping it along those lines. Kingsford: This was a discussion point that we had when Mr. Ewing was in and he'll do whatever we tell him to do. We were looking at having a better more open natural way and that's why I interjected with the plan. I wanted to see that and give you an opportunity to look at that prior to us requiring it necessarily have to be tiled. Giesler: ACRD had a number of recommendations, did you have any problem with any of those? Lee : No. Giesler: In your application it states 7,000 square feet lots and in the Findings it says 6500, which is it? Lee: There is quite a mixture of lots in here with 6500 being the smallest. • • MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL JULY 20, 1993 I,'AGE 3 Giesler: What type of irrigation systes are you going to have? Lee: At this point and time we will probably not put in a pressurised irrigation but will pay the fee required by the City. Tolsma: Are there any immediate plans for open areas or parks? Lee: The plan at this time is for, the linear park along the Jackson Drain and then there is so^e open space at the entry. Kingsford: Questioned square footage of lots. Lee: There are some 6500 square foot lots. Kingsford: So your testimony at Planning and Zoning was incorrect? Lee: It must have been. Kingsford: Thank you. Anyone else? No response. I will close the public hearing. The Motion was made by Giesler and seconded by Tolsea to approve the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law with the correction in lot square footage to read 6500 minimum. Rall Call Vote: Yerrington - Yea; Giesler - Yea; Corrie - Yea; Tolsma - Yea; Motion Carried: All yea: The Motion was made by Giesler and seconded by Yerrington to have the attorney prepare an Ordinance annexing and coning Fothergill Subdivision. Motion Carried: All Vea: ~~v ITEM ~,zz~: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A ~0 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX KNOWN AS CEDAR CREST BY CHARLES WARD: Kingsford: I will at this time open the public hearing and invite the owner or representative to come forward. • • MERIDIAIU CITY COURICIL JULY 20, 1993 PAGE 4 Don Hubble, 9551 Bethel Court, Boise, was sworn by the attorney. Hubble: Presented drawing to Council. This is a piece of property that is 22 1/2 acres in size. The westerly boundary is Ten Mile Road, it's approximately mid-way between Cherry Ln. and Ustick. It has a total of 73 lots, which is a density of about 3.24 lots to the acre. To the north of this is Parkwood Meadows and to the south of it is another proposed subdivision, Kentfield Manor and to the east of this is an undeveloped triangular shaped piece of property. (Explained availability of sewer and water - see tape) We need to discuss the property to the immediate east. Presented new lay out far what is being proposed for the final plat based on the request that we tie a stub street to the south to connect the two neighborhoods for the next future subdivision, we took that center culdesac and converted it to a through street and it will now connect to that newly proposed subdivision. That easterly triangular parcel is a five acre parcel that was not included in the original request for annexation and zoning, but the developer has acquired that piece of property and would like to incorporate it. It is bounded on it's easterly boundary by a major canal, which tends to land-lock the property or make it expensive to gain access from any other direction other than from the west through this parcel. We've talked with Mr. Forrey and he mentioned that we should. bring it up tonight and request your consideration to include that five acre parcel in this request. It would raise the area by five acres to 27 1/2 and would increase the number of lots to 90, the density on the lot per acre would still remain just about the same. Kingsford: I think it's a good idea to develop that jointly. I have some concerns in terms of noticing for public hearing and all of that. Crookston: There would have to be a public hearing before the Planning and Zoning Commission and the City. There would have to be a public hearing on the preliminary plat for that five acres. Kingsford: Right but I mean for the balance of the original that was already noticed. We could address this new layout of the original land, right? Crookston: I think Mr. Forrey has a comment. • • MER I D I Ahl C I TY COUIdC I L JULY ~0, 1993 RAGE 5 Forrey: I believe when this was originally subsitted they were in the process of including that five acres but didn't get it in. I think that the list of property owners covered those within three hundred feet of the boundaries that you see here. Crookston: I think the bigger whether or not that five acres wog even consider the additional moratorium so I don't think that that. Hubble: We will gladly come necessary. problem at this juncture is uld be under the moratorium. To five acres, it's under the you can properly even consider back through the process if tDiscussion on land - see tape) Kingsford: Your saying that we can't consider this new layout because it's predicated on the additional five acres. Crookston: I think you can consider that portion of it and have that as part of this hearing but not the additional five acres. Kingsford: Is that something that you could develop the phase from Ten Mile out, is that a logical approach, and not deal with that five acres until the moratorium is lifted? Hubble: We could, I guess the one risk that the developer would have to take is if there's a chance that that five acres would not be included then he needs to go back to that old lay out. Hut if he has any kind of assurance or if you can address it. tDiscussion on what issue is to be addressed at this meeting - see tape) Kingsford: Thank you. Anyone else to testify? No resRonse. I will close the public hearing. The Motion was made by Tolsma and seconded by Yerrington to approve the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Saddle View Estates Subdivision. Roll Call Vote: Yerrington - Yea; Giesler - Yea; Carrie - Yea; Tolsma - Yea; Motion Carried: All Yea: MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL JULY 2Q1, 1993 I~'AGE 6 The Motion was made by Yerrington and seconded by Giesler to have the attorney prepare an Ordinance annexing and zoning that property. Motion Carried: All Yea: ITEM #3: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A 2~f UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX KNOWN AS CEDAR CREST BY CHARLES WARD: Kingsford: Itew #3, it is my understanding has been withdrawn. Bill Narver: _I'm with Frontier a letter frow the owner of the conditional use permit, in addi~ an ernest money agreement form property. I have here a new property. Realty Services, Inc., and I have property wishing to continue the lion Mr. Ward by the expiration of no longer has an interest in the party that is interested in this Crookston: It's a different applicant and it has to be renoticed. Forrey: The application is only in the name of Charles Ward. Crookston: I believe that this would need to be a new application. Kingsford: I'm sorry we can't hear this tonight. ITEM #4: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING TO R-4 WITH PRELIMINARY PLAT KNOWN AS LOUNSBURY LANE SUBDIVISION PLUS VARIANCE TO CULDESAC LENGTH BY CRIS D. WILLIAMS: Kingsford: At this time I will open the public hearing on this issue and invite the owner or his representative to speak first. David Collins, 3350 Awericana Terrace, Boise, was sworn by the attorney. MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL JULY 20, 1993 RAGE 7 Collins: The application before you is for a subdivision on 13.75 acres on the west side of Meridian Road, the southeast corner of which is approximately 300' north of Waterbury Subdivision. We are proposing 41 residential lots under an R-4 cone. The proposal is for approximately 2.98 units per acre. The siae of the lots will be from 10 to a little over 12 thousand square foot. tExplained streets - see tape) Do have a variance request for culdesac length texplanation given). One of the conditions stated in the Findings we have some difficulty with. There's two parcels of ground involved, the McCord parcel on the south and Mrs. Lounsbury's on the north with annexation for both and development proposal for the north parcel only. The parcel to the south desires to continue the agricultural pursuits that are on the property at the present time. Before he would allow us to include hie in the annexation he requests a letter fro® the City of Meridian stating that he could continue his agricultural uses of this property and he did receive that letter. Copies distributed to Council Members. This indicated that he would be a non-conforming activity on the parcel but after annexation that he could continue the agricultural uses on the southerly parcel and wouldn't have to develop it immediately. This throws us into a bit of a problem, the condition I'm referring to is condition #13 in the back of the packet. It states that all ditches, canals, and waterways shall be tiled as a condition of annexation and if not so tiled property shall be subject to de-annexation. The ditch we're referring to runs on the north side of his property line and anywhere from seven to ten feet south of our property. He does want to continue that as an open ditch on his parcel. We would propose that condition #13 be re-worded to say as a condition of development and then at such time as the annexed parcel south of us did develop they would come under the condition of course of the subdivision development ordinance where they have to t he that ditch. Crookston: It's been the practice of the City of Meridian to require tiling at the time of annexation and if it wasn't tiled that it would be de-annexed. I recall the letter and it is very accurate, it doesn't however reference that that piece of property was going to be annexed. It was proposed to be annexed, the tiling of the ditch does not interfere with the use of the property agricultural. tExplained - see tape) tDiscussion - see tape) ~ ~ MERIDIAN CITY COUhfCIL JULY 2~D, 2993 PAGE B Collins: The lead to this ditch does cross Mrs. Lounsbury's property and we will be tiling that portion and we've worked out with him where his boxes are to be so that he can have access. Kingsford: Any other questions? Corrie: Questioned which portion of ditch they are not wanting to tile. Collins: Explained on map. Kingsford: Thank you. Anyone else to testify? Joe Simunich, 955 W. Ustick Rd., was sworn by the attorney. Simunich: I would like to know the status of the Onweiler Lateral that is between the home and property and the Lounsbury property. Kingsford: I think that is the piece of ditch that we were talking about isn't it? Collins: No sir. The one on the north on our property will be tiled. Kingsford: Thank you. Anyone else? No response. I will close the public hearing. Discussion between Council Members - see tape. Kingsford: We would have to receive a letter from the property owner to the south stating that he is willing to the and recognises that he will have to pay for the entire tiling on their property and then grant a variance to allow that. The Motion was made by Tolsma and seconded by Yerrington to approve the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law. Roll Call Vote: Yerrington - Yea; Giesler - Yea; Corrie - Yea; Tolsma - Yea; Motion Carried: All Yea: The Motion was made by Yerrington and seconded by Corrie to table the annexation request until the next meeting. Motion Carried: All Yea: • • MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL JULY 20, 1993 PAGE 9 Kingsford: Mr. Collins are you clear on what we need to have? We will need the application for a variance on the tiling and the documentation from the owner of that property recognizing that he is going to file it ate such time as it is developed. ITEM #5: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR REZONE, 13.5 ACRES FROM R- 4 TO R-8 AND 2.89 ACRES FROM R-4 TO LO WITH A PRELIMINARY PLAT KNOWN AS MIDTOWN SQUARE, 46 SINGLE FAMILY BUILDING LOTS AND 3 LIMITED OFFICE LOTS BY STEVEN K. RICKS: Kingsford: At this time I'll open the public hearing. Steve Ricks, 200 N. 4th Street, Boise, was sworn by the attorney. Ricks: This project is on Cherry Lane near the intersection of Cherry Lane and 4th Street. This is what's known as an in-fill project. The frontage of the project on Cherry Lane is approxieately 3 acres, we are asking that that be changed from an R-4 zone to an LO zone and then the back 13 acres would be changed from an R-4 zone to an R-8 zone. There are two access points to the subdivision, one off Cherry Lane and another off of 4th Street. The Highway District does not require that 4th Street be completed all the way through to Cherry Lane. There is up in the top right hand corner of the project a four plea and a Chiropractor's office that are contiguous to 4th Street. tFurther explanation on zone changes, road configurations - see tape) No intentions of any duplexes. Minimum house size will be 1650 square feet and the largest being 2340 sq. feet. Minimum price of house and lot would be 6125,000.00 and up from there depending on the market. Addressed Engineer's comoents and addressed each - see tape. Discussion on ditches - see tape. Kingsford: Thank you. Anyone else? Linda Sharpton, 1323 W. 4th, was sworn by the attorney. Sharpton: We have a lease on this property which is good until March of 96, that lease includes the first option to buy which was negated when the packs entered into an agreement with Mr. Ricks. We were not aware that they entered into this agreement until we were notified of the May 11th hearing. Prior to that hearing we notified Mr. Rick's so he is aware that we have this lease and we were present here at the meeting on the 11th. • MERIDIAN C I TY COUhIC I L .JULY 20, 1993 RAGE lib Sharpton: This is something that my husband and I will take up in court. The application that Mr. Ricks has applied for and the t°eaoning of this property is wrong as long as there is a dispute here. I feel like if you approve this reaoning then I feel like you too become a party to this and civil damages will be brought against the City of Meridian. Kingsford: Has that lease been submitted to- the Planning and Zoning Commission? Sharpton: Yes and they wouldn't accept it. Very much opposed to this coning and doesn't feel Council should address this until civil issues have been settled. Tolsma: Do you have a copy of the lease? Copy of lease handed out. Giesler: Why wouldn't this be accepted at the Planning and Zoning level? Forrey: I think that it was submitted and my recollection is that the Chairman and the Commission felt that it was a matter between the applicant and the Sharpton family and they asked those two parties to work it out. Sharpton: I want you to be aware that there has been no settlement. Forrey: The application submitted to the City indicated that the owners of record were Paul Pack and Alice Pack. We also have a signed certified letter from Alice Pack, Trustee of the Pack Family Trust granting permission to the applicant to go ahead and apply so we proceeded on the basis that the owner of record did authorise the applicant to proceed. Crookston: Has there been any action to terminate the lease? Sharpton: No. Crookston: Have you received any default notices or anything of that nature? Sharpton: Plothing. Crookston: Have you filed a civil action at this juncture? • • MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL ,JULY 20, 1993 PAGE 11 Sharpton: If they come on my property there will be a restraining order until this is settled. Crookston: Have you discussed this development with Mrs. Pack or the Trustee in regards to your lease? Sharpton: Paul has informed us that we are not to harass his mother, so I have not called her again. Kingsford: Thank you. Anyone else to testify? Helen Watts, 538 W. Washington, was sworn by the attorney. Watts: Would like consideration for a park in this area. Kingsford: Thank you. Anyone else? Crookston: Can you lend any information on this lease situation? Steve Ricks: I became aware of the document that you received tonight after the first notice of hearing for the Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting. Mlr. Sharpton called me and said ,that he rented the ground. I was given a copy of document which you received tonight and I did review it and found that it was not signed by owner of the property. The owner of record is the Paul Pack Family Trust with Paul and Alice Pack as trustees. There are two Paul Packs. There was one in his seventies or eighties and he died last fall. His wife, Alice Pack, is the successor trustee to the family trust. After Mr. Sharpton visited with me after the P 8 Z meeting in May then I called Mrs. Pack and asked her if she was aware of this paper and she was unaware of that until her son, Paul Pack called her about it. I myself am dealing with the owner of the property and if there is a legal dispute that's going to find its way into civil court I believe that is between the renter and the owner of the property, not me. Kingsford: Which Paul Pack is it that signed your lease? Sharpton: The son. Kingsford: Thank you. Anyone else to testify? Johnnie Sharpton, 133 W. 4th, was sworn by the attorney. Sharpton: When I got a hold of Mr. Ricks and talked to him, he did assure me that if Pack's wouldn't work with me, he would. I don't really believe it is his place to work with me. • MER I D I AIV C I TY COUhlC I L JULY 20, 1993 PAGE 12 Kingsford: Thank you. Anyone else? No response. I will close the public hearing. Crookston: Mr. Forrey you've checked and it is the Pack Family Trust that owns the property? Forrey: I didn't contact Mrs. Pack in California, but the Ada County Property Records show that the Alice Park Family Trust is the record of owner. Crookston: Who has consented to the rezone? Forrey: Mrs. Pack. Crookston: I think all that the City can do is move forward on the basis of the records that are official. They show that the proper people have consented to this application, there's no court order indicating that we should do anything other than that and I think that's how the City has to proceed. Kingsford: Mr. Ricks, you are aware that the Findings as prepared for Planning and Zoning reco®mend denial of the R-8 zoning. Ricks: Yes, I a® aware of that. Explained intent to have a nice project - see tape. Kingsford: He has addressed this evening that the house size will be a minimum of 1650 sq. feet and the houses would begin at 3125, 00®. 00. The Motion was made by Corrie and seconded by Yerrington to have amended Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law prepared for this request. Motion Carried: All Yea: • MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL JULY 21a, 1993 PAGE 13 ITEM #6: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT LOCATED AT 415 E. BROADWAY, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL 20NE FOR THE NORTHWEST LINEMAN COLLEGE BY SHANE PORTER: Kingsford: I will now open the public hearing and invite the owner or his representative to come forward. Shane Porter, 24tt3 S. L i bert y, was sworn by the attorney. Porter: First of all we'd like to ask for a waiver on the 4 .foot sidewalk and curb and gutter on Broadway Street. The only curb and gutter that exists is right by Lumberman's and the only sidewalk that is there is right in front of the building. We don't understand the comment, to obtain a license agreement with the district right of way for 4th Street and Railroad Avenue. The lot that we are subleasing is a fenced lot and we will stay within those boundaries. Kingsford: Your not seeking a permit to do any modification to the building or the grounds? Porter: No. Part of our curriculum since they've changed the CDL law, our students are needing these licenses and Boise State is looking for a place to move their truck driving school and we'd like permission to have them park there. Kingsford: It is my understanding after talking with the City Clerk that the application being noticed as it was that that would be something that we couldn't necessarily take up this evening. Forney: The public notice was a conditional use permit for the Northwest Lineman College, it didn't go into detail on what comprised the curriculum of the college. tFurther explanation - see tape). Kingsford: We can't hear things about the truck school since that wasn't how the notice was made. Thank you. Anyone else? Gerald Mackey, 7829 Boise, was sworn by the attorney. Mackey: They need a place to park their trucks is really what it amounts to. It would be a great addition to Meridian to have this truck driving school here in Meridian as it is the only one in this area. This is a very successful program. • ME R I D I Ald C I TY COUhlC I L JULY c 8, 1993 PAGE 14 Yerrington: About how many trucks are involved with this operation? Mackey: May I refer to the truck driving head on that? Eight and starting in October there will only be six. Mackey: So right now there will be eight trucks come in and park on the lot and this fall only six. Kingsford: The school itself, is there any classroom instruction given that would be on this site for that particular application?. Mackey: That is in the future plans, yes. Kingsford: Thank you. Anyone else to testify? Dave Raymond, 319 E. Broadway, was sworn by the attorney. Raymond: Concerned about the additional traffic and parking problems. What are the hours of this school? Kingsford: Thank you. Anyone else? Jerry Hibbard, 1718 E. A~eity, was sworn by the attorney. Hibbard: I'm a classroom teacher with the BSU program. With regard to the number of students, we never have more than c4 students at any time. There is 9 in the classroom and 9 in each two phases of driving. The program operates throughout the year. We operate four days a week beginning at 7:88 A. M. on Monday and completing our activities by 5:88 P. M. on Thursday. As far as loading and unloading, we do not transport commodities and compete with the independent operators in the area. We are specifically a driver training progra®. The trucks leave the yard probably by 9:88 in the morning, they go out to an area between Boise and Mountain Home, we have eight and a half miles dedicated to our use for training on Old Hwy 38. They operate out there for about a week or so and the rest of the training is done on the public thorough fairs outside the City. They would not be training in here driving around the City streets. This operation has been in effect in Nampa since 1996 and has bad excellent support from the community there. Giesler: I don't think we're talking about the Lineman College now. ,~ • • MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL JULY 2t~, 1993 RAGE 15 Kingsford: We've been asked to try to consider this as part of the vocational. Giesler: I would just as soon talk about the Lineman College not truck driving right now. Kingsford: What a®ount of trucking is done for the Lineman College? Porter: The students will be between 19 and 25 for the college. Kingsford: What is the number of parking spaces inside the fence that would be available to those students? Porter: Probably around ten to twelve inside the fence. Also has same right of way for parking. Kingsford: Once you have poles there they are not in and out are they? Porter: No just when we use them up and they are no longer safe they will be leaving. Kingsford: And what kind of a turn over rate would that be? Porter: Once a year. Kingsford: Thank you. Anyone else? Cathy Hofkins, 4~f6 E. Broadway, was sworn by the attorney. Hofkins: I live directly across from the college in question and ^y concern is the amount of additional traffic. I really oppose this request. I don't really oppose so much to the Lineman College but I do to the truck driving. Kingsford: This property is zoned industrial. Thank you. Anyone else? No response. I will close the public hearing. The Motion, was made by Corrie and seconded by Giesler to approve the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law as prepared. Roll Call Vote: Yerrington - Yea; Giesler - Yea; Corrie - Yea; Tolsma - Yea; Motion Carried: All Yea: • MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL JULY ~0, 1993 PAGE i fa The Motion was made by Giesler and seconded by Tolsma to approve the conditional use permit for Northwest Lineman College. Motion Carried: All Yea: ITEM #7: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING TO R-4 BY NELSON AND MVRNA BERRY: Kingsford: I will open the public hearing and invite the owner or his representative to speak first. Nelson Berry, 193 N. Blackcat Rd., was sworn by the attorney. Berry: As stated in the Findings of Fact and Conclusions they recommended going to R-~ and we have no problem with that whatsoever. We just .want to put one additional house on that five acres. Tolsma: The Fire Chief stated he needs a turn around. Berry: Right, there will be a real adequate turn around for a fire truck. Kingsford: Anyone else to testify? No response. I will close the public hearing. The Motion was made by Corrie and seconded by Tolsma to approve the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law as prepared for Planning and Zoning. Roll Call Vote: Yerrington - Yea; Giesler - Yea; Corrie - Yea; Tolsma - Yea; Motion Carried: All Yea: The Motion was made by Yerrington and seconded by Giesler to have the attorney prepare a aoning and annexation Ordinance. Motion Carried: All Yea: ITEM #8: REGlUEST FOR CONSIDERATION OF A NEW ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARKING BY CHARLES LIGGETT: Charles Liggett: I think it's in the best interest of the City of Meridian to adopt an Ordinance not to allow recreational vehicles to be parked on the roadways. MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL JULY 2G, 1993 PAGE 17 Kingsford: I believe what was discussed was the possibility of an ordinance that required the® to be at least back into the set back area. Tolsma: I think we have subdivisions in town that have covenants that state they can't park R.V.'s on the street. Liggett: Right but you have to hire an attorney to enforce that. I've worked hard all my life to have a nice place and I can't have something like this bringing my property value down. I've tried to talk to my neighbor and it ,just causes hate and discontent and that's why I'm asking for an Ordinance. Kingsford: The Chairman of Planning and Zoning is here tonight and certainly this will be a topic of discussion. ITEM #)9: REQUEST BY CARLENE SPITLER FOR APPROVAL OF BEER AND WINE LICENSE KNOWN AS MARGRETTES HACIENDA: Kingsford: Where are you located? Carlene Spitler: 39 E. Fairview in the Northview Center. Kingsford: The Chief has no problem with this request. The Motion was made by Yerrington and seconded by Giesler to approve the beer and wine license for Margettes Hacienda: Motion Carried: All Yea: ITEM itiG: DEPARTMENT REPORTS: Kingsford: Let's start with Janice Gass. I did have a plumber from Caldwell come in and complain about the double fee from K 8 L Excavation. I do have some sympathy with regard to the mail. Explained circumstances - see tape. Janice's request is to take the books back because it's been more hassle. Our intent was to try and put less of a load on her and we've ct°eat ed a bigger burden. Janice Gass: Explanation Given - see tape) Giesler: I think our need is to make it as simple and effective as we can and if we've created a burden then I'd like to see us correct it. hiER I D I Ald C I TY COUIdC I L JULY 20, 1993 RAGE i® The Motion was made by Tolsma and seconded by Giesler to change the policy of the City of Meridian to not allow plumbing, electrical books to be issued out of the office. Motion Carried: All Yea: Bruce Stuart: We're asking to get a motor on Well ii15 so we can get water because we are running short of pressure. The water demand is greater than what we have the water for right now. Kingsford: Has that all taken place since #i~ has been down? Stuart: Just mainly this summer more so than last summer. Kingsford: How long has ii12 been down? Stuart: Well since it's been in it has pumped about 60 million gallons is all. It's going back in to®orrow. Kingsford: You don't see that remedying this situation? Stuart : IVo. Kingsford: I certainly have some concerns, this has been a cool summer. Mr. Crookston and I have discussed possibly declaring a water emergency. Crookston: In the competitive bid requires bidding of equipment if it's the City finds or there is in fact a life or property even, the City ca' spend money without going through the has to be some kind of findings that health or safety or life or property. statute for the City it in excess of 'E10,000.00, if health or safety hazard to n declare an emergency and competitive process. There there's that hazard to the Kingsford: What I asked Gary to do is research what kind of time we would save by declaring an emergency and proceeding. We're talking about the new well just off of Cherry Lane. Giesler: What happened to the statistics that we had done saying that we were all in good shape? Who did that study for us? Tolsma: CH2M Hill. The only proble® is that we've got 1500 houses more since that particular time. • MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL JULY 2G, 1993 PAGE 19 Kingsford: I think what Sob's referring to is basically analysis of a year ago that Wayne did for us in a quick study that we need a gallon a minute per household and we're within that gallon a minute per household but I'm not sure that we're a national average. tFurther discussion - see tape) Crookston: Where are we on fire flow? That really is the haaard. Stuart: That would all depends on when they come in. If they come in during the heat of the day, we would probably be low on water, yes. Night time I really can't tell you because there's been no way to monitor that. Yerrington: How about alternate day sprinkling? Kingsford: Well we've been running adds in the paper currently for the last two weeks. Yerrington: Should we put it out with the next water bill also? Stuart: I think along with that far people to check their sprinklers and check their times to see how long they have their sprinklers going too. dDiscussion - see tape) Kingsford: Bruce if you ca' you can generate with regard hydrant pressure. If Gary might be able to accomplish iG0° through August we're in now. Thank you Bruce. n keep me informed on the data that to draw-downs - night verses day and would keep me apprised of what we in time. My big concern, if we hit trouble given what's happening right Clerk Forrey: We're still working with the City's Auditor on the budget amgndment. We still have two departments that need to submit their next fiscal year budget request. One of those is the Administration, which is my problem I just haven't had time to get to it. Jo Bolen got me started on that and Gary is working on his for Public Works. The Development Fee Committee is going very well and making some headway. I see two things coming out of the committee, one w • MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL JULY 20, 1993 PAGE 2~D a very strong recommendation with actually costs placed upon the fees that we already have authority to charge. These are the fees for variances, CUP, preliminary plats, final plats, etc. We went through an analysis of the amount of cost and staff time it takes and put dollar figures to those and then we compared that to what we can legally charge and there's quite a bit of difference in some of those. I think we'll see some serious recommendations on these. The other side that we're discussing is the impact fee and I think we'll have a strong recommendation out of the committee to implement the Ada County Legislation. The same legislation that authorises ACRD to have an impact fee. We're still working on the details of that. One thing, in terms of this water situation and knowing that the situation was there. I took interest in a conversation I had with Richard Jewell, he's developing Englewood Creek and he's also a partner in the Running Brook Estates project. They have acquired the old well that serves the Country Terrace Water Users and he indicated that they would be willing to donate that _to the City if the City felt it was an asset. They probably will abandon that and convert it to a residential lot if no-one is interested. We might put that into our thinking if that's an asset. I received a notice from Wayne Gibbs, Boise City Planning Director just as a courtesy. Boise City has received an annexation request to Boise City that's inside the Meridian Area of Impact. It borders McMillan Road and Eagle Raad. It's the southeast corner of McMillan and Eagle Road. Kingsford: Does it go further south than a quarter mile? That area we lost in the court battle. So really this is now in Boise's Area of Impact. Forrey: I'll verify that. We've had two good weeks of public testimony, the developers summit, the neighborhood summit. There's been some land use reanalysis of the whole use in the i®pact area and beyond our current impact area. We have a water master plan, a sewer master plan, we've brought those into the Comprehensive Planning Process because of all these land use changes and new assumptions for the future we wanted to make sure that the sewer master plan adequately addresses the future and that is being able to tell the Council and the staff, can we handle growth. Further (MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL JULY 2~, 1993 RAGE 21 g~P~~n~~~An An ~~ed~t~ ~aPr~7~'e and area to be served - see to e) Q~tr° pr°oposal to the County is that Meridian be allowed t~ take our impact area farther and they said we could go to Ct~inden if we could demonstrate that we could sewer that area. QPresentation continued and drawing presented to Council - see tape) Copies of Comprehensive Plan available Thursday morning and would like comments back by Friday morning because on Monday morning I need to have copies available at City Hall for people to purchase. Corrie: If they do grant us the impact area, would it be to our advantage then to make that whole area into the urban service area? Forrey: My personal thinking is that we should. Discussion and further presentation - see tape. Kingsford: Thank you. As you are aware the five year .sewage treatment permit we've obtained license for with EPA. As part of that after we got scaled out is to get out of the chlorine disinfectant and the recommendation is basipally we go to a UV disinfectant and Gary has done an analysis on this and is prepared to recommend that we go with Forsgren to do the design preparation for the UV change. The Motion was made by Yerrington and seconded by Tolsma to approve of Engineer's recommendation to have Forsgren Engineering prepare work on the UV Chamber for the sewage treatment plant. Motion Carried: All Yea: Tolsma: @uestioned about the Groom property that was down on Pine. Forrey: Overheard Building Inspector say that demolition had started. Discussion on additional weed problems. MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL JULY `1~, 1993 RAGE ~~'_ a Kingsford: 1'd like a brief executive session to discuss personnel. The Motion was made by Corrie and seconded by Tolsma to go into Executive Session. Plotion Carried: All Yea: Kingsford: Meeting called back to order. 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