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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMay 1, 2003 P & ZMeridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting May 1, 2003 Page 58 of 107 Centers: I would also like to recommend approval of Item 12 it's PP 03-004, request for Preliminary Plat approval of 31 building lots and two other lots on 10.49 acres in a proposed R-8 zone for Bear Creek No. 6 by Bear Creek, LLC. West of south Meridian Road and south of the west Overland Road, including all staff comments, which started on the bottom of page five and continue -well, actually, they don't. They start on the bottom of page six. Added number eleven: These lots shall be marketed as the Mesa style lots. That would be site-specific number eleven. McKinnon: Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission, I think that's something that we shouldn't add to asite-specific condition of approval on a Preliminary Plat. Centers: I see where you're coming from, but -- McKinnon: Mr. Chairman, if -- Centers: Put it on the record like the -- Bdrup: That would probably be more appropriate. Powell: Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission, you may want to limit it just to a lot size, if there is one associated with the Mesa. You can speak with your counsel, but I don't believe that you're allowed to regulate a house price and by referencing the house prices that were stated today; I fear you're getting into murky water there. Centers: Yes. And I agree with that, for sure, on the house price. I guess I would back off on that. It wouldn't be asite-specific, but it would be for the record that the applicant has agreed that these lots will be marketed as the Mesa style lots. That's the best we can do. In addition, the applicant has agreed, for the record, to contact all the adjacent lot owners, if he has unanimous consent with one type of fence being vinyl, he will tear down the wrought iron and share half the cost for a new vinyl fence. End of motion. Zaremba: Second. Borup: Motion and second. Any discussion? Maybe just for clarification, there were no -- there were no revisions to any of the staff comments and the others were just items to mention on the record, not part of the recommendation. Centers: Right. Borup: Okay. All in favor? Any opposed? MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. Item 13: Public Hearing: CUP 03-015 Request for a Conditional Use Permit to add a heliport with office and fueling -future landing pad and hanger on southeast corner of property in an L-O zone for St. Luke's Meridian Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting May 1, 2003 Page 59 of 107 Medical Center by St. Luke's Regional Medical Center -east of South Eagle Road and north of I-84: Borup: Item No. 13 -- original 13, CUP 03-015, a request for a Conditional Use Permit for a heliport, office, and fueling at the St. Luke's Meridian Medical Center by St. Luke's Regional Medical Center. I'd like to open this Public Hearing and start with the staff report. McKinnon: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission. In -- like I start all my staff reports -- all my presentations, if I could direct your attention to the overhead. The area that we will be talking about tonight is down in the southeast corner of St. Luke's property. It's currently undeveloped at this time. The applicant is requesting a location to land a helicopter. St. Luke's currently owns a helicopter it's located downtown on top of their landing pad. They only have one place to land down at St. Luke's, so anytime another helicopter is dispatched to that site they have to remove the existing helicopter to allow the incoming helicopter to land. That in, addition to having to go elsewhere for fueling has become very expensive to St. Luke's. They have land out here, they have the ability to land and take off over a flight path that does not cross over residential properties, in accordance with FAA requirements. If I can go forward to the next couple of slides? Go to the next one. The Site Plan -- we will get to there, but I'll just take the slides in order. The piece of property would have a building placed on that. This would be manufactured home type building and it will have awainscot -- a brick wainscot on the bottom three feet of the building that would be in the same design as the St. Luke's building itself. This would be a 24 hour operation, so there will be people at this location 24 hours a day to man the helicopter, so it would be almost a pseudo residence, similar to like you see at fire stations. Go to the next -- this is the Site Plan. Once, again, down the southeast corner, if you can still envision this, the berm for Meadow Lake Village is right adjacent to this piece of property. Right where it ends you can see it right off of Interstate I-84. The small map helps out right there in the right- hand corner, St. Luke's Hospital highlighted and the new location for the helipad. The current plans include just one landing site, the underground storage facility, and the office building. In the future, St. Luke's would like to have the opportunity to build a hangar and have an additional helicopter-landing site. The staff would request that that be approved, that in the future it does not have to come back to you as a Conditional Use Permit, but, rather, as a staff level approval. The Site Plan is detailed enough for us to see the flight plan, the landing and take-off areas. Again, this does not come in over any residential properties it comes in over I-84 and leaves over St. Luke's property. That's something that FAA does require. And as far as the staff report goes, there are a few things I'd like to point out to you. On page two of the staff report, item D, the last sentence in the finding, says that staff finds for a proposed retail development, site conditions of approval. Obviously, this is not a retail development. That was a carry over. I apologize for that. I have just two other small clerical errors like that I'd just point out to you that they need some clarification. On page three, again, the final sentence, staff finds that no excessive traffic -- this is not a large traffic generator, other than the helicopter use. And item H on page four, again, with the findings, this would not create significant interference with any traffic on the surrounding public streets and, obviously, Meddian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting May 1, 2003 Page 60 of 107 this is not a project that will heavily impact anything, that's the reason significant is underlined, in case there was any question. As far as the Site Plan goes, there is one major modification that they have to make to that and that was just dealing with the planting of some trees on the I-84 buffer. The I-84 buffer is a landscape buffer it does require that there is 50 feet of landscaping. The applicant has provided the required minimum distance for the buffer, but not the minimum one tree for every 35 lineal feet. The three trees that are proposed are great. We need seven more. And that's in the staff report. And with that, I would end my presentation to you at this time and ask if you have any questions of staff. Centers: Mr. Chairman, a couple questions. Page one of your staff report, the last sentence, to match the existing -- and there, again, it gives me the impression that there is a page missing or -- McKinnon: Oh. Centers: I assumed you meant existing -- McKinnon: Existing St. Luke's building. Period. Centers: St. Luke's what? McKinnon: Building. Centers: Okay. Borup: That's it? That's the end of that? McKinnon: That is it. That's the end of that. Borup: I was wondering the same thing. Centers: You mentioned that the helicopter was going to come in over I-84? McKinnon: That's correct. Centers: And take off over the St. Luke's property? McKinnon: They have two landing -- they. have two landing and take off zones and they are these dashed lines right -- as noted. Centers: Yes. McKinnon: This building over here in Touchmark is a maintenance building. Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting May 1, 2003 Page 61 of 107 Centers: What's to prevent them from go over Montvue, then? Because that's the direction they will be heading, correct? McKinnon: Actually, the FAA requires that they take off in these directions. They cannot take off and turn and go over Montvue, they would have to take off within these stated areas. Centers: So, condition number five on page four, you think that's adequate just the way it's written? Borup: I do. The reason why -- Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission, the reason why I included those state and federal aviation guidelines and requirements, that they meet all those, I'm not an expert in those and I can't tell you each one of the exact requirements, so I used the --just everything. The default. Centers: So, you're saying that if they did have happen to go over Montvue or Meadow Lake, that those people could complain and they are in violation of the law? Zaremba: Well, yes and no. The actual requirement is that you must be above 2,000 feet above ground level. They could use the freeway to gain elevation and, then, they could turn over there, but they have to be at least 2,000 feet up. McKinnon: Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission, if there was such a violation taking place, I believe that the federal or state regulatory agency would actually be the correct body to handle that type of complaint. Centers: Yes. All right. Thank you. Zaremba: I do have a question. On the fire chiefs comments, his point number four is provide an approved turn around at the south end of the property. Is he meaning this and does that satisfy a turn around? It's not much different than a hammerhead. You could use it. Or you think he was meaning a circle like a cul-de-sac? McKinnon: Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission, what's on the Site Plan in front of you appears to me to be a hammerhead that would meet the requirements of the turn around. If Joe is in reference to something other than the hammerhead, I'm unaware of it at this time. The applicant may be able to provide some additional insight into that. They have had conversations with the fire marshal. Borup: Anything else? All right. Would the applicant like to make their presentation? Hall: Chairman Borup, Commissioners, my name is Jeff Hall, I'm the director of architecture and construction services for St. Luke's, 520 South Eagle Road, Meridian. As you now know, we are in the helicopter business and, as staff pointed out, we don't have an appropriate place to land a helicopter for its home. We do have roof top access at Boise in at our river hospital and other ground access opportunities at other Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting May 1, 2003 Page 62 of 107 hospitals that we provide transportation to and from. That's the intent of this application is to get this helicopter and its crew a home. We have reviewed the staff report and the agency comments attached and have no issue with that. The trees were just an oversight on our Landscape Plan and we will accommodate that ten days prior to City Council hearing. As staff pointed out, we do have FAA requirements and we are working them on our application. They do require us not to fly over rooftops. We have committed to our neighbors in Montvue and Touchmark, in neighborhood meetings with both of those groups, that we will not fly over their residential rooftops. Very much the approach is limited to within those dashed lines, angling off at the angles on the illustration, as staff pointed out. Because we have those FAA requirements, but also because we have committed to our neighbors that we will not fly over their roofs, it adds confidence to this process. We would consider or accept an additional condition from the city to not fly over rooftops as well. The question on the Fire Department access, we have not met with Joe or any of the staff, but our design there does represent what we believe is an appropriate hammerhead turn around for the Fire Department. Ahd with that, I would stand for any questions you might have. Borup: Questions from the Commission? Zaremba: Is this, as you say, a home for the helicopter, but might they be bringing patients to this location and -- I mean how would a Life Flight type thing actually get somebody to the ER in the hospital building? Hall: Right now we don't fly patients to our Meridian hospital ER and if we had a patient who arrived at the hospital ER that needed to be transported downtown or elsewhere, ground transportation is faster, with the exception of a few rush hour opportunities. Long term planning, what we call Phase 3 of the hospital we opened about a year and a half ago. In the long-term master plan, it's designed to potentially double or mirror to the east. At that point in time when we come before you to ask for that expansion, we would anticipate putting a hell stop on top of that building, so that we could, then, transport patients to and from the hospital. Zaremba: What about using vehicles to get them in between? Hall: Yes. Zaremba: That's answers my question. Hall: Thank you. Borup: Any other Commissioners have any questions? Okay. Thank you. Hall: Thank you. Borup: Do we have anyone else offering testimony on this application? Seeing none, Commissioners? Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting May 1, 2003 Page 63 of 1 D7 Zaremba: Mr. Chairman, I move the hearing be closed. Centers: Second. Borup: Motion and second. All in favor? Any opposed? MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. Centers: I think it's good to see them here. No one is objecting. Zaremba: Okay. Mr. Chairman, I move that we forward to the City Council recommending approval of CUP 03-016 -- I'm sorry. I'm reading the wrong one. Let me back up. I move we forward to the City Council recommending approval of CUP 03- 015, request for a Conditional Use Permit to add a heliport with office and fueling, future landing pads, and hangar on the southeast corner of property in L-O zone for St. Luke's Meridian Medical Center by St. Luke's Regional Medical Center. East of South Eagle Road and north of I-84, to include all staff comments of the staff memo dated May 1st, received by the city clerk April 25th, 2003. That's it. Centers: Second. Borup: Motion and second. All in favor? Any opposed? Thank you. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. Item 14: Public Hearing: CUP 03-016 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for a craft store and coffeehouse in an O-T zone for The Library by Craig Rittenhouse - 141 East Carlton: Borup: Next Item is CUP 03-016, request for a Conditional Use Permit for a craft store and coffee house in an O-T zone for The Library by Craig Rittenhouse at 141 East Carlton. I'd like to open this Public Hearing and start with the staff report. Kirkpatrick: Be just a moment here. All right. This is an application for a Conditional Use Permit for the expansion of an existing Conditional Use Permit. Originally -- this is 1996, the previous property owner was -- received a Conditional Use Permit for a craft store and espresso shop. This applicant plans to continue that same use. However, they are expanding the building, they will be required to go through the Conditional Use process. This is located across the street from the old Meridian High School. I'll put up the Site Plan. Let's see. We had a couple of issues staff was concerned about with this application that we wanted to note. The first is the parking requirement for the site. The submitted Site Plan shows four on-site parking spaces. The dimensional requirements of the building require 14 spaces. The applicant is proposing a parking agreement with the Chapel of the Chimes and we'll go ahead and show a photo of the Chapel of the Chimes parking area. We have received a letter from Chapel of the Chimes saying they