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HomeMy WebLinkAboutThous Springs PP Apprvl Minutesi ! Meridian City Council September 1, 1998 Page 11 Bird: Second. Cowie: Motion made and second the decision that the variance of the block length and piping the Ridenbaugh Canal is hereby granted. All those in favor of the motion say aye. MOTION CARRIED: All ayes. ITEM N0.6: REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR PROPOSED THOUSAND SPRINGS SUBDIVISION BY FARWEST DEVELOPERS AND MARTY GOLDSMITH - NORTH OF VICTORY AND WEST OF EAGLE. Corrie: Council there was a request made to the developer to indude lot number 58 in block 4 part of the school park site. 1 guess Becky would you like to address that and tell us what the developer has approved? Bowcutt: Mayor Corrie contacted me and asked me to go back to the developer and see if he would consider the elimination of this lot 58 located right here along the future elementary site. I did meet with the developer, discussed it with him, urged him to go ahead and eliminate that lot because it would improve the access to the school lot which from what I'm hearing the feedback from the school district, that's what's going to happen with that parcel. He has agreed to eliminate lot 58 as a residential lot and merge that lot into the school site which would increase that acreage. I believe it's lot 58, block 4 so we'd like to include that in the record. The other issue I discussed with Mayor Corrie after Council adopted the Findings, two weeks ago the Hanson's meet with me outside and were questioning the lot numbers that were entered into part of the record as part of the Findings. I believe it said lot 21 through lot 14, block 14. Their question to me was is there any way to change that. They would like to see lots 22 through 16 and their reasoning there was their home sits back further on their parcel. And they though the affect of lot 22 was far greater than the affects of the lots further to the south and they said would you please talk to the developer and we'd be willing to forego lot 13 and - I think it 13 and 14. Cowie: 14, 15. Bowcutt: 14 and 15, excuse me. Forego lot 14 and 15 if you would take it clear up to lot 22,which is the last lot that backs up to them. Their home sits right in this vicinity here and their concern is (Inaudible) 14 and 15 are of no consequence but lot 22 we feel is problematic. As you turn the bend then these lots (inaudible) backing up and facing the northern direction. Mayor Corrie said he did receive a letter from them. They reference some different lots. I think they went to 24, but I believe they were going off the old plan, which we renumbered when we made the staffs changes. Meridian Ciiy Council September 1, 1898 Page 12 Rountree: So those numbers again are 16-22. Bowcutt: 16-22, which the difference would be seven lots versus eight. That was their request. We'd be willing to just accept seven because those are the lots that most adversely affect us with a two story and our privacy. Rountree: And that will be a note on the plat? Bowcutt: Yes. The previous plat that we agreed to one stories, we put on each lot. Because we felt if it was placed in the notes, the builder may not recognize that but if it's in bold letters on each lots, it's easily recognizable by your building department. Anderson: Becky I have a question. Is there a home on that little piece of ground down there too? Bowcutt: No. (Inaudible). The next home over is west. Anderson: And could I get you to mark the right numbers on this map for me so I know which ones you are talking about, because those are kind of hard to read. Bowcutt: (Inaudible). Anderson: Okay, thank you. Cowie: Becky I have a question on the lot 58 that we talked about is that going to be deeded to the City of Meridian and then if the school doesn't use it then we do it as a park site; is that correct? Bowcutt: I believe the city preference is that we deed it to the city and then if the school district needs it, then, they get it. Cowie: If they don't want it then it goes as a park. Bowcutt: Correct. Then the city will retain ownership. The other issue that I wasn't clear on is the 50 foot right-of-ways with the 5 foot offset sidewalks. We discussed that in length. When I came away from the meeting, my understanding was that I was to get with staff and come up with some solution that would work so we didn't end up with our pins under the sidewalk. I did submit information to Gary. An example of one plat where it did work well. Gary and Shari looked at it and their comment was what if we just go with a 20 foot setback from the back of the sidewalk and simplify it which therefore would mean a 22 foot front yard setback and we agreed to that and our pins will all be offset outside of the concrete so I believe that is resolved. But I'd like that to be in the council's motion because when we bring the plans in say 60 days from now Meridian City Council September 1, 1998 Page 13 people forget what was said and even though it's in the public record, if it's not in the motion then Gary's staff says, no you've got to go with standard right-of--ways or 57 foot right-of--ways, so we'd like to be in the motion. In closing I'd just like to remention I met with Plampa Meridian Irrigation District board today on the pedestrian bridge issues. They are granting us a license agreement for our vehicular bridge. The bridge for our sewer water crossings. They indicated to me that they will not agree to the pedestrian bridges until such time as the City of Meridian sits down with them and discusses the issue of liability. And they said that it's been discussed in previous meetings. They thought that you guys had come to some type of agreement with them, but they have not seen anything in writing and they will not give us a license agreement for the pedestrian crossings until the city agrees to some provisions that they've set forth. I guess what we'll end up doing is trust funding with Ada County Highway District if that cant' be accomplished and the monies will be there for those bridges until such time as you guys can come to an agreement. I just wanted to pass that on since I had the opportunity. Cowie: Other questions from the Council? Rountree: Question to Gary, as it relates to the 22 foot setback that does resolve your issue with the pin placement. Smith: Mayor and Council, Councilman Rountree, yeah I think it would. I just wanted to be sure that we didn't have a problem with vehicles parking in the driveway and extending out into the sidewalk area, and as Becky has indicated to me they've been doing this in our city to the east of us and they haven't had a problem with the utility trench situation in that front yard easement and that was another concern that I had. So it's apparently working elsewhere. Thank you. Anderson: Is that block 4 where those lots are? Bird: 14. Rountree: Lot 58. Bowcutt: (Inaudible) Cowie: Any further discussion? Rountree: Mr. Mayor I .move that we approve the preliminary plat for Thousand Springs Subdivision conditioned on staff comments that the plat indicate a 22 foot setback as described by the applicant. That the plat indicate that lots 16-22 of block 14 be identified as single level building lots and that the plat indicate that lot 58, block 4 will now be part of the potential or future school or parks area. i Meridian City Council September 1, 1998 Page 14 Bentley: Second. Come: Do you want to discuss that deed it to the city, Charlie? However you want to work it. I'll take your motion as stated. Rountree: Did it get second? Bentley: I'll withdraw my second. Rountree: I'll just make a motion to amend my motion. Bentley: Second. Cowie: We have a motion made by Mr. Rountree and second by Mr. Bentley the motion as stated and also as amended. Any further discussion? Anderson: I have one more question. This bridge that goes across for the vehicle traffic if an agreement doesn't get reached between us and Nampa Meridian, is there enough room for school kids to get by on that without going out into the traffic to make to this school property? Bowcutt: Yes, they have sidewalks on both sides. Anderson: Okay. Bowcutt: Standard ACHD. Anderson: All right, thank you. Cowie: Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor of the motion say aye. MOTION CARRIED: All ayes. Cowie: I want to thank Becky and the developer for graciously giving that block 4 number 58. Thank you Becky. ITEM NO. 7: REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A CONTRACTOR'S YARD BY DONOVAN HANSON -LOT 2, BLOCK 1 OF PLAYGROUND SUBDIVISION. Cowie: Mr. Hanson is it? Okay.