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MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
AGENDA
TUESDAY, JANUARY 18, 1994 - 7:30 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING HELD JANUARY 4, 1994:
(APPROVED)
1. VARIANCE REQUEST: RODNEY BRADY AND TERRELL TINGEY: TABLED AT
JANUARY 4, 1994 MEETING: (PREPARE FINDINGS OF FACT
CONCLUSIONS OF LAW)
2. JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT: TABLED AT JANUARY 4, 1994 MEETING:
(APPROVED)
3. GONSENT TO ASSIGNMENT: ENGINEERING AGREEMENT: TABLED
AT JANUARY 4, 1994 MEETING: (APPROVED)
4. RESOLUTION #152: MUTUAL COOPERATION PLAN: (APPROVED)
5. FI1dAL PLAT: ARIEL ESTATES SUBDIVISION: SUBDIVISON IN
ADA COUNTY AND IN MERIDIAN'S AREA OF ~MPACT:
(A~PROVED WITH CONDITIONS)
6. PUBLIC HEARING: VARIANCE REQUEST: HUNTS BLUFF #2 BY
MARTY GOLDSMITH: (PREPARE FINDINGS OF FACT AND
CONCLUSIONS OF LAW)
7. CAROL FELT: CLARIFICATION OF WATER AND SEWER COSTS TO
HER HOUSEHOLD. PROTEST OF RATE INCREASE:
8. GIS MAPPI1dG CONTRACT WITH ADA COUNTY: (APPROVED)
9. DEPARTMENT REPORTS:
PLANNING
A.
B.
C.
D.
E.
F.
G.
DIRECTOR:
WESTSIDE BIBLE CHAPEL ANNEXATION AND ZONING
(PREPARE ORDINANCE)
CHATEAU MEADOWS #8 - LOT DRAINAGE SITUATION
IDAHO ATHLETIC CLUB COMPLIANCE
FIVE MILE TRUNK SEWER STATUS REPORT
MERIDIAN ENERGY STATUS REPORT
TRANSITION TO FULL TIME PLANNING DIRECTOR
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT
(CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE DRAFT)
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MERIDIAN CITY COUNC~L_____ JANUARY 18. 1994
The regular meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to
order by Mayor Kingsford at 7:30 P.M.:
Members Present: Ron Tolsma, Bob Corrie, Walt Morrow, Max
Yerrington:
Others PreSent: Will Berg, Wayne Crookston, Wayne Forrey, Marty
Goldsmith, Don Bryan, Don Stillwaugh, Ken Hendersen, Bruce
Freckleton, Terrell Tingey, Rodney Brady,
MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETI1dG HELD JANUARY 4, 1994:
Kingsford: Any corrections, deletions, additions to those minutes?
Entertain a motion for approval.
Morrow: So moved
Tolsma: Second
Kingsford: Moved by Walt, second by Ron to app~ove the January 4,
1994 minutes, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: Al1 yea
ITEM #1: VARIANCE REQUEST: RODNEY BRADY AND TERRELL TINGEY:
TABLED AT JANUARY 4, 1994 MEETING:
Kingsford: I see both parties here, would you like to come forward
and update the Council.
Tingey: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, at our last meeting
last month the issue was brought up concerning the construction
method of the building. And I would like to re-assure the Council
that we are not seeking a variance or exception to the City's code
on the type of construction of the building nor are we seeking a
Conditional use permit to change the use of the site. We expect to
abide by the conditions that are already imposed upon that lot.
After that issue was brought up I asked 2 developers to price out
the proposed building using conventional frame and wood sided
construction and both of those estimates came back at approximately
twice the cost of the building we are considering. We are not able
to find a good compromise to the concerns that were raised about
the appearance of the building by Mr. Walker and Mr. Dunn. I would
like to just say that the purpose of this petition was to request
a variance to the property line and if I may use this illustration,
this property is on the corner of 11th Avenue and Cherry Lane. The
bill of law says we are set back almost a 100 feet from Cherry
Lane, 30 feet from 11th Avenue NW and what we are really requesting
is that the north property line be considered the side property
line for all practical purposes. Because for Mr. Dunn's property
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it is a side property line and that we get an appropriate setback
for a side property line. Mr. Forrey, in light conversations with
i~im has indicated that for a commercial property in Meridian it is
very common to see a 7 or 10 foot setback for those properties
that are adjacent to residential areas. And I would like to say
that a 7 or 10 foot setback for this purpose would be perfectly
acceptable to Dr. Brady and myself.
Kingsford: Any questions the Council may have for Dr. Tingey?
Corrie: Mr. Mayor, Terrell have you seen any of the comments at
all that Gary Smith has made in reference to this irriqation outlet
structure that exists on this northeast corner, we need a
maintenance area back through there.
Tingey: I don't have a copy of that report however when I talked
to Wayne this afternoon he read it to me, so I'm familiar with it.
Corrie: So you are also familiar with the Ordinance that he is
referring to here as far as paving, landscaping, underground
sprinkling, lightinq and fencing, are you aware of that Ordinance?
Tingey: I may not be perfectly clear on it. I know that the site
will require drainage, a drain field to drain the parking area, but
I' d have to do my research to understand the comments about the
fencing and the lighting.
Kingsford: I think either Mr. Smith or Mr. Forrey could help
clarify those.
Tingey: I don't think there would any problem complying with those
requirements.
Kingsford: Do you have any kind of artist rendering or
architectural picture of the building you are proposing?
Tingey: I have a rough sketch that was done by the manufacturer,
Action Steel Builders. It is basically an elevation sketch. This
sketch when I asked them to sketch this out, basically shows the
slope of the rough, how the structures, the doors in the front will
be arranged and its not much more than a square footage area and
an elevation sketch.
Kingsford: I was more concerned with the appearance of the
building, I guess Dr. Tingey.
Tingey: Another company, which we have done some communication
with, specializes in steel structures, has a brochure, and the
structure we are talking about is not qoing to be as big as
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an aircraft hangar. The steel siding has vertical reinforcements
you can take a look at that brochure. They are used for basically
reinforcing and strengthen on the siding. I've been able to see
similar buildinqs that have been built in subdivisions throughout
the county and residential areas as well as farm areas. I think
many neighborhoods are not opposed to that type of a storage
garage.
Kinqsford: I think that was one of Mr. Walker's big concerns was
the appearance of the building.
Tingey: That is correct, and I have to admit that beauty is in the
eyes of the beholder. Certainly a brick garage would look great
but that would be about 3 times the cost of this type of structure.
Corrie: Mr. Mayor, I guess my question is, you have such a nice
looking building why do you want to put this type of building
behind there, just money.
Tingey: Cost is a consideration, but I guess our choices are a
steel building a brick building, a wood shingle side building and
up keep on a painted building is more than a painted steel
building. In fact people will buy steel siding to avoid having to
paint their houses every 5 or 10 years. So this type of building
requires very little up keep and it does maintain its looks over
the years.
Yerrington: Do you know if there is a building similar to this
that we can take a look at in this area that has been sold by this
manufacturer of this product?
Tingey: As a matter of fact Saturday I looked at some buildings
that were near Overland and Black Cat, they were under
construction. I cduld get you those addresses if you would like,
I don't know them off the top of my head.
Yerrington: Thank you
Kingsford: Any other questions or comments? I guess I have one
for legal counsel, where are we at with our Ordinance Wayne, we are
talking about a variance on a setback or how we interpret a
setback. What is the Ordinance concerning the construction, do we
have latitude on the construction?
Crookston: Only if it was some type of construction that was
required by our building codes, but I'm not specifically aware of
the variances for the setbacks. I don't believe the type of
construction is before the Council the things that you have to find
are that basically it is something, the basic guidelines are it is
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something other than a cost reason. Some justification for the
variance other than avoidance of cost something that is not
necessarily self created, things of that nature to get the
variance. I'm afraid that just the desire to place a building in
a certain area doesn't always come within the quidelines of a
variance unless you have some construction impediment that is there
and you can't move it then a variance is in order. The Council has
been somewhat lenient in applying those standards.
Kingsford: Well, T guess of~ the top of my head I would think that
the lot could actually be split with the number of square feet is
has and which case they are absolutely right the back of that lot
would be a side lot and a variance wouldn't be required. I think
that would fit into that other than financial hardship, Walt.
Morrow: I think my observation here is with respect to the
construction although I~m sensitive to the neighbors desires to
have something a little more attractive than say a conventional
metal storage building, but my impression is that there is not a
1ot that we as Council can do with respect to that construction
because we don't have the design review process that sets bolder
standards and that right to review a buildinq and have requirements
for the type of construction within that building exactly on that
site, is that a fair assumption?
Crookston: That is correct.
Morrow: So the issue here really is do we wish to grant the
variance for the setback, or do we not wish to grant that variance?
I think that we can have some moral persuasion that says let's
spruce the building up and try to be compatible with the neighbors
in the neighborhood and sensitive to their desires. I just don't
think we can say you have to build a brick building or a side
building or whatever else.
Kingsford: I think if you did that would be a conflict of
interest. Any other thoughts from Council? What is the Council's
pleasure? I quess I might ask Mr. Forrey's my comments about the
size of the lot and so forth, am I right in that assumption without
going out and measuring that given the setback that they already
have would that make a buildable lot, the back portion of that.
They have adequate parking in front and having a backyard setback.
Forrey: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, it would. I believe it
is a buildable lot in the back. If that was approved by the City
then that would be a side yard and not a rear yard, and a side yard
is 5 feet per story. So, that would negate the need for a variance
so its kind of a tricky manoeuver that is not the intent of the
applicant but he is correct that could probably be accomplished
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under our current Ordinance provision. That lot would definitely
restrict the size of building you could build and the parking, it
would be restrictive but it would be a buildable lot.
Kingsford: Thank you, is the Council prepared to make a ruling?
Crookston: You need findings on this.
Corrie: Mr. Mayor, I move that we direct the City Attorney to
prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions on the variance request.
Morrow: Second
Kingsford: Moved by Bob, second by Walt to have the City Attorney
prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law on the variance
request for Brady and Tingey, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yes
ITEM #2: JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT: TABLED AT JANUARY 4, 1994
MEETING:
Kingsford: Counselor, do you have any comments to make on those?
Crookston: I have reviewed that and have suqgested some changes
which are incor~orated in that document that you have before you.
Corrie: The ones that we had last time are changed?
Crookston: Yes
Kingsford: Is the Council prepared to make a decision on that?
Morrow: I would move we approve the Joint Powers.
Yerrington: 5econd
Kingsford: Moved by Walt, second by Max to approve the Joint
Powers Agreement, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: AlI Yea
ITEM #3: CONSENT TO ASSIGNMENT: ENGINEERING AGREEMENT: TABLED AT
JANUARY 4, 1994 MEETING:
Kingsford: I visited with Gary Smith, he is satisfied with that.
Counselor, do you have any problem in reviewing that?
Crookston: I have reviewed it and it is appropriate, if the
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Council deems so. There is nothing wrong with the document.
Kingsford: Does the Council desire to enter in this agreement?
Morrow: So moved
Tolsma: Second
Kingsford: Moved by Walt, second by Ron to approve of the consent
agreement on the engineering with Forsgren, all those in favor?
Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #4: RESOLUTION #152: MUTUAL COOPERATION PLAN:
Kingsford: A resolution of the City of Meridian and the
Commissioners of the Meridian Rural Fire Protection District
approvinq mutual cooperation automatic aid agreement between North
Ada County Fire and Rescue and Meridian City Fire Department,
Meridian Rural Fire Protection District, Eagle Fire Protection
District and Star Joint Fire Protection District and authorizing
the Meridian City Rural Fire Chief to execute and attest said
~,greement and providing for an effective date, entertain a motion
to approve Resolution #152.
Yerrington: So moved
Tolsma: Second
Kingsford: Moved by Max, second by Ron to approve Resolution #152,
all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: Al1 Yea
ITEM #5: FINAL PLAT: ARIEL ESTATES SUBDIVISION: SUBDIVISION IN
ADA COUNTY AND IN MERIDIAN'S AREA OF IMPACT:
Kingsford: Does Council have any questions or comments on that?
Morrow: I have questions with respect to the comments made by, is
there a representative here that represents this subdivision?
Kingsford: Becky, are you involved in Arie1 Estates, would you
like to answer some questions please.
Morrow: My questions are primarily designed to inform me, this
appears to be a gray area between City responsibility long-term and
County responsibility short-term. Kenny Bowers comments with
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respec`t to the Fire Department which this in fact in the Rural Fire
District.
Bowcut: That is correct
Morrow: However, the Rural Fire District has a requirement that
anything over 3 lots have a central water system to provide for
fire fighting capabilities. My question is, does this subdivision
have that system planned to be in place?
Bowcut: You mean a well dedicated to a hydrant?
Morrow: Yes
Bowcut: I thought that only applied to those lots which are less
than 2.5 acres in size.
Corrie: No, according to the code that they have adopted, anything
over 3 lots in a subdivision 5 acres or more requires a water
supply. Rather than just a tanker truck, I agree with Walt, I am
confused here where we stand in this approval and the Fire
Department needs the water supply and according to the Fire
Department they do need, the code says, they do need the water
suppZy. My comment here is just where does our authority fit in to
that? If you have contacted the Fire Department in reference to
this.
Bowcut: When I talked to Ken Bowers, because we had quite a few
projects within the Rural Fire area, and the comments that I have
received have been that if a lot is 2.5 acres to 1 acre in size
they are requiring a well dedicated to a hydrant which can pump
1,000 GPM. Then they have allowed some alternative sources such as
ponds or one idea was if you were in an area where there was a
creek that is a year round creek that could supply water to the
tanks in excess of 2.5 acres up to 5 acres in size they have been
asking for residential sprinklers. Now that is consistent with the
Kuna Fire District and I know Eagle Fire District is talking about
implementing that, I think Whitney is talking about it ahd then we
have also contacted the State Fire Marshall to get information from
them and they were not aware that the Fire Departments were moving
towards this in the rural areas. I guess one of the concerns is
the distance from the subdivisions to the Fire Station in the event
they' d have to return back to re-f ill their trucks and then the
close proximity of the homes like on the 1 acre lots. Some of
thase hornes could be 20 feet apart. Some of the subdivisions have
compensated with additional sideyard setbacks. This particular
zone in the County requires a 50 foot sideyard setback, so alI
structures will be no closer than 100 feet and that applies to
accessory buildings also. Now under the Ada County conditions
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of approval which I do have with me this evening, we do have to get
a letter of approval from Meridian Fire Department. So we will
need to satisfy Kenny Bowers and the Fire Department and their
concerns, but like I said I contacted the State Fire Marshall and
I think they are in the process of writing a letter because they
have some concerns about the residential sprinklers. I didn't have
the conversation with him, the other planner at our office did.
And then we got some data from the Fire Academy back east on
residential sprinklers and basically what they do is provide a
buffer zone for response.
Corrie: Have you met with Kenny and the Rural Fire Commissioners
on this particular plat?
Bowcut: I talked with Ken on this particular plat, but no I did
not meet with the Commissioners themselves.
Morrow: Will you be meeting with them prior to for presentation to
them for their approval for their letter?
Bowcut: Yes, I will have to get a letter from them to Ada County
before the County Commissioners will siqn the plat. It is required
as a condition for approval.
Morrow: The question with respect to the road, I noticed on the
plat it is called out as a private road, can you enlighten me as to
what ACHD's criteria for private are. Kenny's note seems to be
that it is 1000 feet long, which is outside of our, by a long ways
outside our requirements for a private type of road or a culdesac
turn around, so can give me some sort of feelinq of what ACHD's
requirements for the private road or why does this meet the
requirements, how does it meet the requirements for a private road?
Bowcut: Ada County Highway District does not specify any
construction standards on private streets. That is left up to the
applicable zoning ordinance. Under Ada County Zoning Ordinance you
may provide access through a private street or a public street. In
a private street has a minimum of 30 foot easement, a 20 foot
improved surface and that particular surface in a rural area onl.y
can be 6 inches of 2 inch crushed gravel with a 2~ slope from
center line and then you have to have a 45 foot radius culdesac
turn around or other approved turn around. Now the applicant is
going to pave this one, we have gone ahead and committed to the
County Commissioners that this will be paved.
Morrow: What type of base, I can tell you from personal experience
that 6 inch base in this type of weather won't support one Fire
truck that we have, even the smallest of Fire trucks. So for all
practical purposes if there is a fire in lot 4, we can stand and
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watch and that is all we can do in terms of, and I say we meaning
the City Rural Fire Department, because we can't get there. A 6
inch ba~e for a road on top of the types of soils that we have in
our area is not sufficient to support those fire trucks. So, does
this particular private road that is going to be paved have a base
that is designed to carry fire trucks?
Bowcut: Yes, it was designed by the engineers and the plans are
into Ada County, the Ada County engineer will review those plans.
Because we have committed to paving. I'd have to talk to the
engineer to tell you exactly what capacity the road will have. in
some jurisdictions they have us test the private streets if they
are asphalt to make sure they meets those minimum standards that
you are discussing. Now, the Ada County Engineer does go out and
inspect the street to make sure it is built to spec's an to the
construction plans.
Morrow: And he is the one that the Ada County Engineers is the one
who designed the spec's for the road, or who designs the road, ACHD
doesn't have
Boweut: ACHD doesn't, basically the only guideline we have is the
Ada County Zoning Ordinance and we've gone ahead and committed to
doing more than the minimum requirement which is a 6 inch gravel
base.
Morrow: Well, from my perspective I would be reluctant to put any
of our guys, which are the same guys, in the situation where if
somebody was coming before us asking for a minimum spec road that
I know from personal experience won't support a fire truck, I'd be
hard pressed to give my blessing to that proposal, so that is why
the line of questioning with what the spec's are.
Bowcut: Okay, I can provide a set of plans, if fact I did send a
set of plans, I sent all the plans to the City. And I think Gary
has a set of the street plans.
Morrow: My other question goes along the same line, you are
familiar with Gary Smith's comments with respect to the
Comprehensive Plan the rural residential urban service planning
boundaries and subject to these conditions will you enlighten about
the dry line sewer and the dry line water that is required so on
and so forth, does that apply or not apply to this?
Bowcut: That is not applicable at this particular density. In
your Comprehensive Plan it does mention development at urban
densities I believe its referenced in the Area of Impact and the
Urban Service Planning area. And normally when I was at the County
we applied that in the event of a rezone. If someone were to come
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in your area of impact within your urban service planning area and
they are coming in with a subdivision a rezone at a R1 density
still have septic and wells then dry lines are mandatory, but as
far as this the 5 acre lots that has never has been applied in that
fashion.
Morrow: Well, it seems to me Becky his comments says the
Comp~ehensive Plan allows this type of development subject to these
conditions, and then condition a) is one single family dwelling per
5 acre lot, b) dry line sewer, dry line water mains are required to
be sized according to the Meridian Sewer facility and the water
master plan, the sewer main is part of the Black Cat trunk B system
which borders the south portion of this property. And then it goes
on to talk about parks and school district and so on. Wayne, can
you help me here?
Forrey: Mayor and Council, Councilman Morrow, that is actually my
memorandum not Gary's. In the Comprehensive Plan undex the land
use chapter, under rural policies, its on the page 29, its policy
6.3B let me read it to you and I think in the old Comprehensive
Plan Becky you are correct it didn't apply but in the new
Comprehensive Plan my comments are embodied in the plan. Which
basically says you can have a 5 acre home site in the urban service
planning area which this is within, provided that you have dry line
water and sewer lines installed and constructed and plans and
layouts for roads are made and provisions made for future re-
subdivision of the 5 acre tract to a future urban density as shown
in the Comprehensive Land use map. And on our land use map it is
shown as single family residential R-4 type development. So the
comments in my memorandum are drawn from that Comprehensive Plan
policy.
Bowcut: But that is not the plan that is applicable.
Forrey: Yes it is
Bowcut: This was submitted prior to the adoption of this plan
through Ada County. It was submitted on June 3rd 1993.
Forrey: I see your point
Bowcut: So the old plan is the applicable plan with this
suladivision.
Kingsford: Becky, didn~t the Ada County Plan though call for the
re-subdivision, my recollection is that was in effect over a year
and a half ago. The County's plan to re-subdivide 5 acre parcels.
Bowcut: That is why they have the 50 foot sideyard setbacks
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Kingsford: And an option for dry lines, basically my recollection
again was the jurisdiction, the future jurisdictions request.
Bowcut: Like I said there have been so many of these 5 acre prior
to the adoption of your new Comprehensive Plan
Kingsford: What I'm talking about doesn't have anything to do with
our plan. That is when we had meetings with th~ County.
Bowcut: With the County on future re-subdivisions, at one time
they used to have you go in and you had to provide and alternative
layout on the 5 acre lots for future re-subdivision. They did that
in the 70's . Then they did away with that and haven't required
that since the 70~s and you
Kingsford: They came up with another plan a year and half to 2
years ago for that same thing that I'm sure they approved. Again
that would be the County enforcing their rules.
Bowcut: I know when they did the RT zone that the intent with the
50 foot sideyard setbacks was future re-subdivision that you would
have enaugh room for a public street. Because you would have a 100
feet between structures which would give you adequate setback and
enough room for a private street or a public street to come into
the lot. I guess I wasn't aware of those discussions that took
place a year and a half ago and to my knowledge they haven't
implemented anything that has come across my desk and I have the
most current Comp Plan and Zoning Ordinance.
Kingsford: At the time we discussed it with the County I had some
reservations that it would ever take place, that there would be re-
subdivision.
Forrey: Mr. Mayor, Council also in fairness to the applicants and
Becky, they did not receive a copy of staff comments so they did
not have a chance to rev3ew them. In our former Comprehensive Plan
had the same policy about the dry line water and sewer within the
urban service planning boundary.
Kingsford: I guess a third point might very well be while we have
adopted our Comprehensive Plan, the County has not accepted it.
Any other questions for Ms. Bowcut?
Morrow: I have one other comment, you said that the easement or
the right of way for the private road is 30 feet?
Bowcut: Yes
Morrow: And a typical public street residential road is 50 feet?
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BowCUt: That is correct.
Morrow: It would appear to me to make some sense in these, if the
ultimate goal here is re-subdivision, it would make some sense to
have that easement or right of way done at the 50 foot level now so
there in major problem converting that to a public street at some
point in the future as opposed to doing it at 30 feet now with a 20
foot and then we the taxpayers at some point in the future having
to pay to buy right of way for re-subdivision I'm sorry for re-
doing the street to subdivision standards.
Bowcut: That is a good point, and I think Ada County the last word
I had was they were re-evaluating the private streets because of
those very concerns. You are not required unlike Boise who
requires you to obtain a waiver and show justification for private
street, Ada County does not do that. And then Eagle they will
allow a private drive for access only to 2 dwellings other than
that they don't allow private streets, so everyone is kind of
moving away. Ada County I have been told is in the process of re-
evaluating their private street standards and making them more
stringent.
Morrow: I should yield to Councilman Corrie here since he is the
Rural Fire Commissioner, some of that may have come at the request
of he and the Rural Commissioners. Can you enlighten us as to what
the rural requirements are for a private street?
Corrie: Not at this Walt, I cannot without looking over some of
the minutes we've had at the meetings. I'm sorry, I can find out.
I think you are going to have some problems though,the Fire
Department and fire system, I can't say you will but the codes that
they have adopted you are going to have to have a fire system,
plugs, water of some nature out there. The comment that the Fire
Chief made on my copy is this does not have water for a fire
system. Also the length of road into this subdivision is over a
1000 foot long. So, I think that some of our concerns here are
going to be addressed by the Rural Commissioners. As far as water
supply is concerned you are going to have to come up with an answer
to them on that one. You answered my questipn as far as where we
are coming form here but the road that may be a problem with them.
Like I say with Walt we can't get trucks in there.
Bowcut: I can discuss that with the Engineer that did the design
and she should be able to come up with some calculations on its
load and provide that to the Fire Department to satisfy those
concerns.
Corrie: One of the reasons is with the water supply one water
tankard will not put a fire out of a house that is on fire. And
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talking about the liabilities that are involved, you know they come
up with a tank and they can't put a fire out there is no more
water, so that is one of the concerns that they had so by adopting
that code. I guess, do we need to table this until we can find out
some of these answers?
Kingsford: I think that the issue being if it is just fire related
the Fire Department has to sign off before the County will approve
it. I think before us is whether this subdivision meets with your
approval. I guess Becky the one thing that I would certainly like
to see is a right of way be dedicated or allowed for that you
wouldn't have to go back in and get an easement should it be re-
subdivide.
Bowcut: Would you have a problem with increasing that 30 to 50 we
have ample room.
Kingsford: I think that would be very logical.
Bowcut: I don't see a problem with that, we can make that change
on the plat.
Kingsford: If its not used if it remains always a 5 acre
subdivision you know the people are going to utilize that property
anyway.
Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I have one other question with respect to
Wayne's comments and how do they apply to us?
Kingsford: I think they don't. Given this application was made
prior to that Comp Plan.
Forrey: I corrected that, it never occurred to me to check the
history on the filing of that in terms of the County and the City.
Morrow: Did I misunderstand you say that was in the old Comp plan
as well?
Forrey: Yes, the one change that we have done in the new Comp Plan
is we have enlarged the urban service planning area and this
project was not in the urban service planninq area when they
applied, now we have made it larger and now we are applying some
new policies in effect to that same piece of property.
Crookston: But it was in the Area of Impact, so the Comp Plan
applies to that.
Kingsford: No because those standards apply inside the urban
service planning area, the County has not yet approved those.
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Pardon me, they don't have to approve the urban service planning
area but their application was in prior to us changing that.
Crookston: So those standards only apply in the urban service
planning area.
Forrey: The policy I sited is for a 5 acre within the urban
service planning area.
Morrow: So we are dealing with 2 different issues here really. We
are dealing with a Comp Plan
Forrey: Whether or not it is applicable
Morrow: And the old one is applicable, but it was not in the urban
service planning area.
Forrey: Correct
Morrow: And the old Comp Plan does not require the dry line sewer
and these other things sited by you.
Forrey: It does
Morrow: It does require that
Forrey: In the urban service planning area
Morrow: In the urban service planning area, but that urban service
planning area did not exist for this parcel of property.
Forrey: That is correct
Morrow: I understand
Bowcut: I guess I'd like to clarify this Mr. Mayor and members of
the Council when we submitted this it was right around the
moratorium time and I think the comment from Meridian was that they
would not be reviewing applications, yet Ada County stated they did
not have a moratorium therefore they would continue to process
this. So the application was sent to Meridian but was not reviewed
at that time. It came in under another name, but when Ada County
reviewed they had to look at what the old Comp Plan stated, the old
urban service planning boundary and that still the applicable
boundary to this day until the County Commissioners adopt it.
Kingsford: Our urban service plan does not require their adoption,
area of impact does, but legally I think that your project falls
under our old urban service plan area.
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Kingsford: Is the Council prepared to make a decision?
Morrow: What you need from us is a motion to approve that and I
think that I would make the motion to approve it subject to the 50
foot right of way for the private road and of course subject to the
approval of the Meridian City Rural Fire Department.
Corrie: Second
Kingsford: Moved by Walt, second by Bob to approve the Final Plat
of Ariel Estates subject to the 50 foot right of way on the private
street and the approval of the City Rural Fire Department, all
those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All yea
ITEM #6: PUBLIC HEARING: VARIANCE REQUEST: HUNTS BLUFF #2 BY
MARTY GOLDSMITH:
Kingsford: At this time I will open that public hearing and invite
Marty or his desingnee to begin.
Marty Goldsmith, 4550 State Street, Boise, was sworn by the
Attorney.
Goldsmith: Mr. Mayor and members of the Council, I'm before you
this evening representing a variance request for Hunts Bluff
subdivision #2. This variance is f~om tiling of the ditch which is
in your ordinance now and has been for quite some time a I am
looking to fence the ditch. I believe it will provide a benefit to
the community and I'm prepared to state those reasons. I think I'd
like to show you the vicinity map at this time so we can all have
a look at it. This is the subdivision Hunts Bluff #2 right here
and in red is the Eight Mile Lateral. This is Overland Road and
South Locust Grove Road. This is Meridian Greens on the boundary,
and Sportsman Pointe. There has been no fencing in this area and
I do believe that what we are proposing will actually be more than
what has been done in the past. It will also provide us with
protection for our children and I'm pleased to be representing
this. It does fit in with the overall Comprehensive Plan. If
immediate development is not allowed to go on in this area I do see
a vacant field in the future, because it is not developable if we
have to tile that ditch. A vacant field would be a worse liability
than a barrier, a fence, keeping the children out. By allowing
immediate development it will not be various to in fill later and
your developers wouldn't be skippinq around finding easier pieces
to develop leaving things out. Fairness is also an issue and that
it hasn't been imposed in the past. At this time I'd like to
answer any questions you might have.
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Kingsford: Questions for Mr. Goldsmith?
Tolsma: What is the size of tile that is required, is that a 72
inch tile?
Goldsmith: I believe it is larger than that, the cost is something
I know if that becomes of interest to anyone here.
Tolsma: When I talked to Mr. Hanson of Nampa Meridian Irrigation
he said that roughly anythinq over 48 inches was more of a hassle
safety and their recommendation at that time was a 6 foot high non-
burnable fence, steel chain link. You don't have any problems with
that then?
Goldsmith: No, not at all. In fact that is what I propose to do.
That is what I have done in the past with the subdivision Hunts
Bluff No. 1 that abounded the Eiqht Mile Lateral and I did not
because I was requested but because I thought it should be done.
Tolsma: We've had some letters that I have received from people
out there form Meridian Greens stating that they wanted a sealed
fence (End of Tape) and the sealed fence, I think it was a steel
chain link you would seal diagonally or vertically with strips. I
didn't see any problems with that except for plastic that would
burn but they are (inaudible).
Kingsford: Any other questions or comments? I might have one for
you Wayne, probably the best person. Didn't we require fencing on
Sportsman?
Forrey: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, I believe we did. I
don't remember what material was specified 2 think it was just
acceptable to the irrigation district.
Kingsford: My recollection was Sportsman Pointe we did certainly
Meridian Greens was way before our Ordinance. Thank you, any other
questions from the Council?
Corrie: Mr. Mayor, the lateral that is southeast of Hunts Bluff,
down below there, is that fenced. Is that what we are talking
about, has that been fenced?
Goldsmith: This is all open right now, every bit of it. There is
one fence right in here, from this property it has been recently
worked on. This is the area here that we are talking about
developing next, a 23 lot subdivision. And I would propose to tie
in with the fence that I have constructed here and bring it on up
the side. We've got a break away fence here and a fence that will
come across the front, connecting this entire front.
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Morrow: The fence across the front is not chain link is that
correct?
Goldsmith: That is correct.
Morrow: It is a decorative fence?
Goldsmith: Yes it is, it is a cedar fence.
Morrow: It is my understanding you are in the process of changing
the Ordinance for ditches requiring the tiles larger than 48 inches
in diameter.
Kingsford: I believe that Planning & Zoninq is looking at that
along with other things, am I right Counselor?
Crookston: It has come up, but we have not discussed it at a
meeting. It has come up with discussions with the members but not
at a meting.
Kingsford: I think the Council has discussed it at length too.
I've gathered if that was their decision it would probably be a
good idea if we move forwarded on that because we are receiving
variance requests for that.
Morrow: I guess my final thought is do we have documentation of
the requirement for the tiling is greater than 48 inches from
somebody?
Kingsford; I don't think there is any question on that.
Goldsmith: Rod's Parkside Creek was qranted a variance on the
smaller section of the Eight Mile Lateral earlier.
Kingsford: There is some water taken out there.
Goldsmith: Now, I have a variance or excuse me a license agreement
that I did with ATampa Meridian Irrigation District on Hunts #1 and
I also have a license agreement for this section here and it is not
chain link, I could go with chain link. It is with cedar and it
describes a fence on this side of the Eight Mile Lateral and it
also described fences going down to the water form the lots leaving
that pack of individual lots exposed so that they would have a
water way with their home, but it would not be accessible from side
to side.
Crookston: Is the reason that you are asking for the variance, is
it not the cost factor?
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Goldsmith: That is incorrect, and in fact I feel it will enhance
our overall community. One of the several things I have mentioned
has been for enhancement only.
Crookston: You said you didn't think the land would be developed
if the tile was required.
Goldsmith: That is also correct, so that is one of the factors
definitely, but not the only factor. I see a bare piece of land
there and I see us able to complete the comprehensive plan and
protects our community which looks better than the way it is now.
The way the Eight Mile Lateral is now which is open, so that is the
area that I was working towards.
Kingsford: I think in terms of the logic of the variance Wayne,
the Council has concluded that there are some greater safety
factors in tiling than the risk of leaving it open. Cost is
certainly a consideration for development, our consideration, I'm
not going to put a price tag on what a life might be worth, but in
fact a life might be challenged greater by a tile and inlet
structure then that becomes a consideration too.
Crookston: I don't dispute that at all. I think that the juncture
that we are at now, I think under the testimony tonight and
actually the testimony that was presented by Parkside Creek there
is not grounds for a variance. I think the juncture is now is that
we need to change the Ordinance rather than qrant anymore variances
about it.
Goldsmith: I have other variance applications in right now.
Crookston: For tiling?
Goldsmith: For fencing, a variance
Crookston: A variance to tiling. I think that is where the
Council is really at, is to determine, make a determination as to
what size waterway you want tiled and what size you don't think
needs to be tiled for whatever reason that may be. Rather than put
the developers having to come through this process and making an
assessment as to what is the safest way to treat the waterways that
pass through the city.
Tolsma: Well, I'm talking to Mr. Hanson about that. He said about
95% of mileage of irrigation ditches are under 48 inch and he says
the 5% you'l1 see are the Eight Mile Lateral or the Ridenbaugh that
would be above that but he says they are far beyond that. He says
once you get past 48 inch he says the opening in the grills that
protect the openings of the pipe are do bid that a small child
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could go through it
floatinq down the ditc
allow a greater amount
under he says would
recommendations.
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because he says they have larger debris
h so those grills have to be opened larger to
of water to go through. He says 48 inch and
be a tillable ditch. That was his
Kingsford: Well we are discussing things that I'd like to continue
the public hearing and that finished up. Walt did you have another
question?
Morrow: Well, my questions is, I am sensitive to what both Wayne
and Ron are saying and I agree that we should discuss that, what I
want to know is how to solve this problem.
Kingsford: Well, indifference to legal counsel I think there is ,
the thing that you don't do a variance for is just for economic
hardship. I think that we go far beyond that with the safety
issue, if we are agreed that what Ron has just said with the size
of the grate that goes on constitutes a safety hazard of the volume
of water that pulls somebody into it. And I believe that it is
right and I think that Nampa Meridian spoke on the basis of having
some research on that. I think that does constitute us having the
ability to grant the variance. I also agree with Wayne that we
aught to be looking at changing that because it is ridiculous if we
are qoing to take that approach we keep putting developers through
that on everyone that comes in. Having said there, if there are no
more questions I'd entertain other public comment.
Don Stillwaugh, 1822 SE 5th Way, was sworn by the Attorney.
Stillwuagh: In the last hearing that I was here for Hunts Bluff
we discussed the tiling at some length and we gave testimony from
Meridian Greens side that some of us had built our homes on the
border of the canal because of the fact that it is quite similar to
a creek and the landscaping part of it. So, I guess I want to re-
state that, I think that the tiling of that particular canal, it is
awful wide and the expense would be great of course. But,
obviously there is an issue with Meridian Greens side of it. I'm
not sure how that all goes together.
Kingsford: You are saying then that you would like to preserve.
Stillwaugh: We would like to see it left open and I would support
the fencing on that, that is my testimony. I'd like to ask the
Council one other question about Hunts Bluff, I'm not sure how to.
When I receive the last one , I came here and was t~lking about the
other issues which have been determined. One of my great concerns
is what goes on behind me. The houses built on the edge viewing
out right over this subdivision. The subdivision layout had about
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4 lots or 6 lots between Meridian Greens #2 and #3 and the end and
went around. The lots that I see now have almost 9 lots, I don't
know how that changed or how that does change. Now I have rather
than I large lot behind my house to wonder what is going to be a 2
story house or 2 different lots or even 3 different lots coming
into play. Smaller iots which probably because of the size of the
home~ at the hearing they raised the square footage, it may be that
they are all 2 story homes. I don't know how that happened because
T don't know of a hearing that changed that. Could you clarify
that or help me with that?
Kingsford: Well, I'm not sure that I can without going back and
looking. I'm not aware of the plat changing to change those square
footage of the lots from the time that I originally saw it.
Perhaps Mr. Goldsmith could speak to that or maybe Mr. Forrey. Was
there a change in the lot designation, lot size bordering the Eight
Mile and Meridian Greens?
Goldsmith: Yes there was, and I remember clearing that with Wayne
and it was because of the culdesacs and some changes that we had
done to the subdivision. The lots are an average of 1,100 square
feet approximately and that I have no intention of building 2 story
homes there. I can't say that there wouldn't be one but.
Kingsford; I guess his question is were those down sized Marty?
Goldsmith; These back 4 lots here were originally 2 lots, that is
correct. We have added another lot in this area here when these
changes came about after meeting ACHD's requirements. We have been
working closely with Gary and Wayne as to the the access we have
acquired off of the culdesac for our lotage.
Kingsford: Mr. Stillaugh is more concerned with how did we get 4
lots on the bottom instead of 2, I don't recall how that occurred.
Goldsmith: It wasn't clear as to Meridian's requirements for lot
access off of a culdesac. When this culdesac was added it became
clear, there was an additional lot added here as opposed to a
straiqht through street and those requirement also broke this land
up here and back more. There was 4 there and of course there were
2 before and those lots were over 2000 square foot. (Inaudible) In
the ordinance I actually found 2 things, one of them was talking
about the flat lot, one of them was talking about a cuidesac access
and those changes on that plat were after ACHD's requirements and
a clarification from Wayne Forrey and Gary Smith.
Kingsford: What stage in the hearing process did that take place
Marty? Had this been heard at Planning & Zoning when it was just
2 lots there?
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Goldsmith: It took place just prior to the Preliminary plat
approval and
Kingsford: So, all the time the Council has dealt with this it has
been in that format am I right?
Goldsmith: The street originally goes straight through and I
believe you have a copy of that in you file.
Kingsford: My question is did it become 4 lots down at the bottom
after the Council started looking at it or before?
Goldsmith: The plat was tabled Mr. Mayor because we were not
reading off the same pages to whether ACHD requirements were beinq
met and whether the Kenny Bowers concerns had been addressed with
the Fire Department so the Plat was tabled. And at that time it
did have the 4 lots in the back and the culdesac up front and at
that time I spoke about a tech review that I had with ACHD and I
had spoken with Kenny Bower and we produced that in writing on the
next time or had that available here in writinq and at that time
the Preliminary plat went through.
Kingsford: What were the requirements that the Council put on you
that those lots borderinq Meridian Greens had to have?
Goldsmith: These lots bordering Meridian Greens needed to be 1600
square feet as opposed to the minimum in being 1500 square feet and
the lots needed to be shake roofs. I have no problems with that.
Kingsford: Wasn't there a square footage requirement placed on the
buildings as well?
Goldsmith: I'm sorry not the lots but the buildings themselves
were to be 1600 square feet and there wasn't a problem with the
lots sizes.
Stillwaugh: Our problem is the lots were larger and that is what
we are dealing with and that is what was approved. My neighbor
next to me, he just moved to Salt Lake, he expressed to me that
everyone that came to look at his house to buy it their concern was
what were they going to do behind him, were they going to build 2
story homes. I would think that the smaller lots and with the
increased size of the the house is going to force 2 story homes now
for sure. Like I said if you Zook at the oriqinal plat that we
were shown if you look at my lot there is one lot #10 directly
behind it. This is what we dealt with.
Kingsford: Was there another mailing of this current plat to the
neighbors Marty?
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Goldsmith: I'm not sure of that, but in fact I did hand it out to
the Council members and it was at the public hearing. If there is
a problem that is irrectifiable for me here, T personally do know
that those lots were laid out for 1800 and 2000 square foot homes.
So, in the design of those lots, I actually took a computer
component a drawing to scale and placed them on those lots and
checked the setbacks and everything. If it comes down to it I am
willing to not have the 2 story homes there if that will help him
feel comfortable with that. I don't want to put that restriction
on myself unless I have to.
Kingsford: I guess my concern is that notice was given to these
property owners pursuant to code and I have a concern at what point
then those lots changed. Durinq the time that at least I am aware
of what you have up there is what I saw, yet what these folks were
sent ~or consideration clearly shows 2 lots. I would be very
interested in what the time table was on that and were they given
due notice for hearing on that change. That is really not an issue
now in this variance but certainZy something that needs to be
clarified prior to you doing any building.
Stil~waugh: Based an my neighbor in lot 2 I think our major
concern is the view maybe that is something we can work out.
Kingsford: I would suggest that but until that is done I would
have some real reservation about approving any building permits on
it Marty and checking your time table with these transmittals.
Morrow: Can Wayne give us any enlightenment as to what went on
here?
Kingsford: I would imagine you would have to research the flow but
I'm sure he can. Thank ~rou, is there anyone else from the public
that would like to offer testimony on this issue?
Goldsmith: I have one more clarification if I may. When these
lots are cominq in this way to the Eight Mile Lateral there being
fenced off so they are going in perpendicular intersection. Nampa
Meridian's road is on the other side and so it is between the fence
that is already erected and the Eight Mile Lateral and I have
worked on these license agreements with them an they are saying it
is okay to run these fences perpendicular this way that they won't
need to access this side. However, they can and it is a recorded
easement. But I'm not wanting to run a fence parallel with the
Eight Mile Lateral on this side which is the west, southwest side
of the Eight Mile Lateral, that our license agreement is stating
that we run parallel on this side and give them enough room to
scoop out the ditch and maintain it and that they will have a
recarded easement on this side and they are saying it is akay for
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those fences to run in there perpendicular.
Kingsfard: I see that in Boise along the New York Canal and I
think that reasonable if a person wants to fence it and give
themselves protection they can if not they have access to it. I
think that it true in Meridian Greens as well. Anyone else from
the public.
Don Bryan, 2070 North Locust Grove Road, was sworn by the Attorney.
Bryan: I just have one question about the tiling of the ditch
which is the variance in question. I think it is a good idea not
to do because of the size. I guess my only comment is if you do
indeed review this and change your ordinance to require them not to
tile the ditches of a certain size at the same time could you also
look into the question of the definition of what is adjacent to
when they say the developer is required to tile a ditch on property
adjacent to his ditch that he doesn't own. The ordinance believes
states he has to tile that ditch which is adjacent to and there is
a question to what exactly is adjacent to. Whether it is 20 feet,
2 feet or 80 feet.
Kingsford: That is a good point we ran into that before and it
does need to be clarified Don.
Bryan: When you are looking at the Ordinance you might throw that
in there too. Thank You.
Kingsford: Thank you Don, anyone else from the public? Seeing
none I will close the public hearing. Need findings of fact,
entertain a motion to have those prepared.
Morrow: So moved
Tolsma: Second
Kingsford: Moved by Walt, second by Ron to have the Findings of
Fact and Conclusions of Law prepared, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All yea
ITEM #7: CAROL FELT: CLARIFTCATION OF WATER AND SEWER COSTS TO
HER HOUSEHOLD. PROTEST OF RATE INCREASE:
Kingsford: Is Carol here or a representative?n Wayne, are you her
representative?
Forrey: Well, I did speak to Mrs. Felt Mayor. Mrs. Felt is
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elderly, on a fixed income and she has high medical bills and I
spent a good 30 to 40 minutes on the phone with her and she felt
that she could just not afford the rate increase. She read the
notice and we talked for quite awhile as I said and I informed her
that these were a lot of Federal mandates and in the case of the
State Mandate and that Meridian had not raised water and sewer
rates for almost 10 years since 1984. She was sympathetic to that
and I invited her to be here but she cannot drive and was going to
try to find a friend to drive her down to City Hall. I don't know
if you have a formal protest procedure I don't know if she was
going to file a formal protest in that sense, but she just wanted
the Council to know that people like herself can't always pay the
bill that comes in the mail the way it is printed. She was just
hoping to let you know that people would appreciate sensitivity of
the water and sewer rates. I assured her on that fact, I mentioned
to her that I had personally recommended a higher rate and that the
Council in sensitivity to the seniors and lower income people had
lowered it below the recommended amount so that helped a little
bit. Pius the fact that she is not either that she agrees she has
to pay or she didn't make it.
Kingsford: I might just comment on that, that the meeting we had
last night the Association of Cities we are still as an Association
considerinq withdrawing from trie State DEQ inspection requirement.
Tf the Legislature doesn't give relief to another area my suspicion
is that AIC will probably follow suit making an assumption on the
Council's part but if we do withdraw with that and force the State
into turninq primacy to that over to EPA which would be $.25 a
month savings to people. It might be the City might incur more
expenses by going to Federal primacy. We are looking at that and
also had a meeting with several of the other elected officials in
the region, not just Ada County representatives from Cascade,
Parma, Council, several other cities, Homedale that were concerned
about the Clean Drinking Water Act and we are hoping to get some
relief from that measure I can't remember the name of the bill,
Slaford I want to say a Representative from Kansas that is
proposing the bill that eliminates some of the language that causes
ground water users to have to do expensive tests. We have gotten
assurance from Representative Larocco that he will co-sponsor that
bill and other members of the Congressional Delegation are signing
on it too. There is a chance that we may be able to reduce our
water rate but as you indicated to her and certainly we mentioned
that at the time we raised them those water and sewer rates are
based on what we are getting hammered to do and though we have no
relief from that other than getting fined which is a bad thing to
do because that comes out of the taxpayers money as well. I
appreciate check with her, you might pass some of that along. Tell
her if she needs to come n during the day Y will be pleased to talk
to her myself of Mr. Smith or Mr. Berg and the appraisal thing
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could work for her too.
Corrie: Mr. Mayor, I think the power company has a program where
the people can send a dollar or two more on their bill to help the
indigent. Is it possible that there is something that can be done
for the City as far as their water bill is concerned? And the
people that have that type of a problem, I know that there are a
considerable amount of people that are on fixed income and medical
bills, maybe we could do a program like that.
Kingsford: I~ might be a very good idea, Mr. forrey could also
propose something to use for something else for parks and maybe
this could be a more appropriate use that they patterned on Post
Falls that maybe you could pay the next dollar up and have that go
into a fund that people are on fixed ineomes. Something along the
lines of what the County does with regard to circuit breaker. It
is interesting that it would come from an older citizen. Thank you
Bob.
ITEM #8: GIS MAPPING CONTRACT WITH ADA COUNTY:
Kingsford: Wayne, do you want to take this?
Crookston: Mr. Forrey and I met with Mike McClenahan we discussed
the contract and made some suggestions. He modified the contract
as you have it now it is changed pursuant to our request. I think
it is appropriate if you want to enter into that mapping contract
the contract is fine.
Kingsford: I visited with Gary Smith who couldn't be with us this
evening, he wanted to spend time with his wife who is not well. He
thinks it would be a good idea as well from his department to have
those mapping features critical to sewer and water and so on. I
guess I stole your thunder Bruce, did you want to say anymore?
Zoning as well would be very helpful. It has an overlay feature
that can really help us in a lot of areas. Entertain a motion on
that if it is the Council's desire.
Yerrington: I move for its approval
Tolsma: Second
Kingsford: Moved by Max, second by Ron to approve of the GIS
mapping contract, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRTED: All yea
Kinqsford: Wayne, is that all right with you or do we need to have
them specify that I can sign that and the City Clerk? Is that
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alright?
Crookston: Its probably alright but I would suggest that .
Kingsford: Entertain a motion to have the Mayor and City Clerk
sign that agreement.
Yerrington: So moved
Talsma: Second
Kingsford: Moved by Max, second by Ron to have the Mayor and the
City Clerk sign the mapping agreement, all those in favor?
Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All yea
ITEM #9: DEPARTMENT REPORTS
Kingsford: Wayne Forrey
Forrey: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, I have several items
briefly tonight. I've looked at the West Side Bible Chapel, that
project was approved as an annexation requested 7 or 8 months ago
subject to an update of the Comprehensive Plan. That project now
complies with the Comprehensive Plan and I would ask that the
Council then would direct the City Attorney to prepare that
ordinance and move in the direction of getting that annexed as the
applicant made their application for that 2oning. I'm going to
meet with Jim Boyd some time Thursday to layout the timing with
that. The church I think is anxious to do some things out there.
They have been held up quite awhile.
Kingsford: Mr. Morrow you might want to bring yourself up to speed
on that, it is something we put off for our Comprehensive Plan.
Morrow: So we are now ready to execute the ordinance and annexes
and zones.
Ringsford: We are ready to have is drawn up and do it. Is it the
Council's pleasure to have that Ordinance drawn?
Morrow: So moved
Corrie: Second
Kingsford: Moved by Walt, second by Bob to have the City Attorney
prepare the ordinance annexing and zoning the property for West
Side Bible Chapel, all those in favor? Opposed?
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MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
Forrey: Thank you Mayor and Council, next item is Chateau Meadows
#8 about the drainage situation. I did talk with Butch Suor, one
of the property owners there and he was totally pleased with the
work that the developer Mr. Blaser had done. he had no water under
his foundation, but he didn't give it a real test drive yet and so
he is going to withhold his approval until spring, you know get a
good rain and snow melts perhaps and then check the crawl space.
All those 6 affected homes have been completed and I'm not getting
any phone calls or complaints and it was nice to get a call from
Butch saying its working. I think we have accomplished some things
there. We will just wait until Spring and we will have to double
check to see if things are working.
Kingsford: You might invite Butch in I'l1 buy him a cup of coffee
and we will discuss that. He was a little hot last time.
Forrey: Idaho Athletic club, I did send the letter to the owner,
i think it went about a week ago or maybe a week and a ha1F ago and
we gave them 30 days to get the windows and the trash receptacle
were the 2 imminent concerns and then I can't remember the date it
was some time in spring early summer for the landscaping and the
fence. I do know that Cascade Fence Co. called last week and asked
for our fence specifications because they were providing a bid to
Mr. Wardle at the Athletic Club. So for the trash receptacle and
the fence itself. Is Mrs. Gwin here?
Kingsford: Yes
Forrey: Have you noticed anything Mrs. Anything?
Gwin: (Inaudible)
Corrie: Wayne they do have a fence I noticed yesterday, there is
a chain link fence around that already, around the trash setting.
I would like to have it a little better than that. It will keep
the trash out of their yard.
Forrey: So the letter is out and at least he is cooperating.
Corrie: I would like to see the windows covered as quickly as
possible.
Kingsford; That is one of the things he gave a shot time on.
Forrey: And for the benefit of Mrs. Gwin, in that letter I
indicated he was to invite the affected property owners to inspect
the blinds and satisfy yourself that they work.
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Kingsford: Did you provide him with who they were, Mr. Wardle,
with who the affected property owners were?
Forrey: No
Kingsford: You might try and do that, if you don't have them then
Mrs. Gwin could help you with that.
Forrey: The Five Mile Trunk Sewer we had a meeting a week and a
half ago with St. Lukes Hospital. In that meeting here in the
conference room the Hospital authorized Roylance and Associates to
proceed on design plans for construction of about probably 3000
feet of the Five Mile Trunk Sewer project. From where the sewer
now ends at the RailRoad tracks near Locust Grove upstream which
would be south and east almost to the Interstate. Several hundred
feet north of the Interstate in the Five Mile Drainage there. They
indicated that they needed to use that sewer 18 months from then so
their architect indicated that they would have a Conditiona]. use
application to the City by mid-February, which is our next cut off
date so I think that is good news that the hospital is moving
forward. They have hired the people to do it, they said they would
also pay for the front end of the cost of an annexation path and
they instructed DAve Roylance to get along Overland the Thomas
property and a couple other folks between Eagle and Locust Grove
the south side of Overland to get them lined up for a major
annexation request that wold be financed and put together by the
hospital. So there is some significant movement out there on that.
I have not talked to Dave Roylance sine that meeting I don't know
where he is at design wise. And we also asked people who lived out
there to send in permission letters authorizing Dave Roylance and
City people to get on their property for inspection and survey work
etc. We will be getting those letters in. Meridian Energy status
report. I got a letter from Bruce Thompson, one of the project
managers on the Meridian Energy proposal. They are doing some
environmental analysis and what not, it is quite an invol.ved
application. They will not be submitting until February 11, which
is our next cut off date for the March Planning and Zoning
Commission Agenda. So if that does happen that is his intent.
That would be March Planning and Zoning Commission public hearing
on the Meridian Energy, April for Findings of Fact and Conclusions
of Law or additional hearings if there is any tabling. And then
May or June for City Council.
Kingsford: I received today express mail a draft report of that
impact Mr. Smith currently has, you might want to take a look at
that.
Forrey: Also, one of the last items here, transition to full time
planning director. Tomorrow afternoon is interviews with 3 short
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list candidates for that position. Each of the 3 when I set up the
interview we talked about the schedules, it sounds like any of the
3 that you select could be available the 1st or 2nd week of
February. So there is a possibility that there will be some
transition there and I would appreciate your support. I will be
around and able to help the new person.
Kingsford: One point that I would certainly like to make and I
hope the Council will concur with me is that transition is very
important. With regard to Meridian Energy as Bruce Thompson in his
indicated in his letter I would hope that you would stay on board
with us on that particular issue through its fruition.
Forrey: You bet Mayor, I'd be glad to. Last item Council,
Development Agreements, they are very critical because in that
agreement spells out all of the thinqs that compose the
development features of a project, the fence, the berm, the certain
width of setback, an impact fee, a dedication of land for a park or
school whatever. my last 5 to 6 months we have approved a lot of
projects subject to a Development Agreement to satisfy whatever
concern, police, fire, Gary Smith the City Attorney have. I have
pretty much relied on the applicant to submit a starting point for
this negotiation and in some cases I think my comments to you on
the Final Plat I said we have not yet received a development
agreement. And what I'm finding is the development agreement
cammunity out there is looking for direction form the City on what
should be in the agreement. Because they are so important and
because 1 or 2 might fall through the cracks, heaven forbid, we
have had enough fall through the crack we don't ~eed a development
aqreement, but it could happen. Under this current system waiting
for the applicant, just for your consideration it might be better
and more cost effective to authorize legal counsel to prepare a
proto-type and so we know the form the content the length of the
important phrases and the contractual agreements much like the
Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law and maybe Wayne we could qo
through each one say well this one the Council wanted a 6 foot
fence, and they wanted a trash receptacle screen and the applicant
said he would put in a berm. We could then take the frame work of
that agreement and personalize it. Its one option, but just
sitting and waiting for Hubble Engineers or someone to do that is
not coming in and I'm afraid we'll just get a couple pages of some
notes if we do.
Kingsford: Mr. Crookston and I talked about that yesterday
afternoon while we were in a different meeting about that very
thing having a prototype and I think it would be a good idea if the
Council would authorize that to be done. And get that on a disk
formatted for us, where we could push that around to our Planning
Director and City Clerk whoever.
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Morrow: Would that not also standardize it, so that it would be
relatively easy for us as Councilmen and P&Z folks just to run
through that agreement and do the check offs that way you are not
searching for things. I think I would be more than willing to make
a motion that we authorize the City Attorney to begin that draft.
Yerrington; Second
Kingsford: Moved by Walt, second by Max, before the vote,
Counselor you are giving me one of those looks like where in the
world is he headed now, do you have a comment?
Crookston: No
Kingsford: We did have that discussion didn't we?
Crookston: You and I did, strangely enough I specifically recall
it evenly. Wayne and I had that discussion right before the
meetinq tonight and he asked me if I thought that was something
that should be done. I can do it I think the prototype is a very
good idea, in my mind those development agreements are something
that is going to give the City control over the development.
Speci€ically because where we have asked for those agreements at
least there is maybe 1 or 2 rezones where it has come up invariably
and the annexation process and they have been included in the
Findings of Fact as a condition of approval. I don't want to see
them get dropped through the crack because the way we have
structured the annexation requiring that to be done it does give
the City Council authority because it is part of the annexation
process and that was a condition of the annexation. That is one of
the very few areas where the City basically has complete control.
Kingsford: And I just comment the letters I received from folks on
Locust Grove one of whom is present that it is a feature that we
definiteZy need to tighten up. Thank you Mrs. Gwin.
Forrey: Mayor, I have noticed that some
development agreement very casually, because
They are kind of casual and say put it in a
we want final approval we will agree to it
could get a prototype and they could read
would get a little familiar with that tool,
implications of a development agreement.
administration.
applicants treat the
they haven't seen one.
development agreement
later. I think if we
and see then everyone
how to use it and the
It would help in the
Kingsford: And I want that in the tracking program where we follow
through on it.
Forrey: That is all I have Mayor.
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Crookston: In the Winter City Attorney's conference which I am
putting together there is going to be an hour on development
agreements. So I think that will be helpful to get some
information.
Kingsford: I don't know if we ever commended to the City Attorney
for getting elected to President of the State Organization of that
is very commendable and maybe a hand would be in order. Having sat
through a meeting with that on you in your capacity on that.
Morrow: Excuse me Mr. Mayor don't we have a motion on the floor
with a second and a vote?
Kingsford: Oh, i apologize you are absolutely right. All those in
favor of the motion? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All yea
Kingsford: Counselor, anything else?
Crookston: I just had that the City Attorney's Association is
meeting in Coeur d'Alene on December 28.
Kingsford: Bruce, go ahead (End of Tape)
Freckleton: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, we just have on e
quick item. Gary got a request from a gentleman to use Story Park
2 weekends, May 7th and 8th and Memorial its for an Arts & Crafts
festival. He is talking 30 to 50 booths. Gary's recommendation
was to not allow this because of the traffic, trash, the need for
water these sort of things.
Kingsford: I don't know if you guys are familiar with that, they
set up in McCall. I've gone and looked at that, we have a friend
that sets up at that. They are large things, on the one hand they
do draw a certain amount of commerce and the other they draw away
from stores that provide some of those things. They are lar+ge,
they attract a lot of foot traffic. I think all of you have been
to Heritage Day in the park. I would say that typically these
would be 50 to 75% larger in terms of the traffic going 2 or 3 days
depending on the weekend. So there are some concerns, Gary and I
talked about that this afternoon. I said I certainly wouldn't want
to make that determination, I want the Council to be involved in
it.
Morrow: I have a question, I understand you say also Memorial
weekend?
Freckleton: Yes, he said May 7th & 8th and Memorial Day.
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Morrow: Wouldn't something of that size conflict with all the
community things that we have going on Memorial weekend in anyway?
Freckleton: I would think so.
Kingsford: We have the races going on so there would be people
out there. Is there baseball qoing on, I know the swimming pool
that is the last weekend for it typically. Excuse me it opens then.
I think we had a baseball tournament then, isn't that the one the
Optimist sponsored.
Morrow: So if it generates that much traffic my question is to you
would that size conflict.
Kingsford: No question we would not have parking on the Memorial
Day weekend. What was the other date?
Freckleton: May 7th & 8th.
Kingsford: That is another consideration, my bet is that there is
baseball scheduled in there too. The High school most likely is
going to have a game or 2 in there. Parking becomes a concern. I
would suggest that maybe given that maybe we think about contacting
the schools and entering into a contract with the schoal district
there are several sites that they could utilize in the school
district.
Tolsma: (Inaudible)
Kingsford: Well, the early May wouldn't be a problem for the pool,
but certainly the baseball. Anything else Bruce?
Frecklet4n: That is it.
Kingsford: I think its appropriate that the Council take a vote
action on that to pass along, Wayne.
Crookston: On what?
Kingsford: His request.
Crookston: Oh, yes.
Kingsford: Entertain a motion on the question or the request from,
I didn't get a name, the request for the park for those 2 weekends.
Yerrington: I move we deny the request.
Tolsma: Second
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Kingsford: Moved by Max, second by Ron to deny the request, all
those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: Al1 yea
Kingsford: Counselor, anything else?
Crookston: No
Kingsford: Walt
Morrow: I have a couple of questions with respect to, T'd like to
see if Wayne will stay through, I think the development agreement
is really critical. I'd like to maybe get his commitment to maybe
stay thraugh and help us through that as well as the other things
that he staying with. And the reason being when we bring somebody
new onboard they have enough problems trying orient themselves with
the job 1et alone being involved in something as critical as the
development agreement.
Kingsford: Its a good point, and I just comment that thankly Wayne
is not dying, his office is in Meridian and he has committed to me
that he would like to do projects for us. Even though we hire a
full-tie planner I'm sure we'11 have special projects that will be
farmed out. Given Wayne's track record, I'd certainly like to use
that.
Morrow: The next thing is I'd like to see us do something with
respect to those we talked about earlier whatever it takes to get
to get it started in terms of the ditch ordinance, the tiling, and
the fencing let~s make a commitment tonight to get started so we
are nit dong this 6 months from now.
Iiingsford: WouZd you take that to Planning & Zoning Mr. Crookston?
Crookston: Yes
Morraw: The last thing is that I don't think I will be at that
interview tomorrow for the 3 folks, but I think that from my
personal perspective I'd Zike to see the questioning along the
lines of what kind of private enterprise experience they have, what
kind of real world experience they have, what kind of real world
experience they have. I know when I was on the Planning & Zoning
meeting with folks that were professional planners not very many of
them were from the real world in terms of being sensitive to those
type of problems and issues that would be the input that I would
have at the interview process if I was there. That is everything.
Kingsford: Max
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Ye~rington: Nothing
Kingsford: You plan to be there tomorrow for this?
Yerrington: Yes
Kingsfordz Bob
Corrie: Yes, I will be there too, and nothing else.
Kingsford: Ron
Tolsma: Nothing
Kingsford: You are aware of those times?
Tolsma: Yes
Kingsford: Will
Berg: Nothing
Kingsford: Entertain a motion?
Morrow: So moved
Tolsma: Second
Kingsford: Moved by Walt, second by Ron to adjourn all those in
favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:10 P.M.
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AGENDA
TUESDAY, JANUARY 18, 1994 - 7:30 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
~~Drove ~ MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING HELD JANUARY 4, 1994:
1. VARIANCE REQUEST: RODNEY BRADY AND TERRELL TINGEY: TABL D A
JANUARY 4, 1994 MEETING :~'i~ f~~'nay ~,dr~~a~.c i~ e~G
~P~,e~e~,2. JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT: TABLED AT JANUARY 4, 1994 MEETING:
~„p~,e~ 3. CONSENT TO ASSIGNMENT: ENG2NEERING AGREEMENT: TABLED
a~~ AT JANUARY 4, 1994 MEETING:
~~~di 4. RESOLUTION #152: MUTUAL COOPERATION PLAN:
~v~L 5. FINAL PLAT: ARIEL ESTATES SUBDIVISION: SUBDIVISON IN
~P ADA COUNTY AND IN MERIDIAN'S ARE OF IMPACT•
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PLANNING DIRECTOR:
D~d•crt-u~-lc~eJ - A. WESTSIDE BIBLE CHAPEL ANNEXATION AND ZONING
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~~~., J-,Q~ .- C. IDAHO ATHLETIC CLUB COMPLIANCE
D. FIVE MILE TRUNK SEWER STATUS REPORT
E. MERIDIAN ENERGY STATUS REPORT
F. TRANSITION TO FULL TIME PLANNING DIRECTOR
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RESOLUTION # 152
BY THE COUNCIL:
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN AND THE
COMMISSIONERS OF THE MERIDIAN RURAL FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT
APPROVING A MUTUAL COOPERATION (AUTOMATIC AID) AGREEMENT BETWEEN
NORTH ADA COUNTY FIRE & RESCUE, MERIDIAN CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT,
MERIDIAN RURAL FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT, EAGLE FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT,
AND STAR JOINT FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT; AUTHORIZING THE MERIDIAN
CITY/RURAL FIRE CHIEF TO EXECUTE AND ATTEST SAID AGREEMENT; AND
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
WHEREAS, it is possible that fires, medical emergencies, and/or disasters can
occur within the boundaries of one of the above mentioned fire districts and present
dispatching procedures provide for the fire department with jurisdiction, to arrive on
the scene before calling for additional aid;
WHEREAS, the parties hereto have determined that it is in the best interests of
each of the parties and the citizens whom they serve to provide for additional
firefighters, engines and equipment in the initial dispatch;
WHEREAS, each of the parties hereto believe that lifting present jurisdictional
boundaries so that the station nearest to a fire, medical emergency, and/or disaster
can respond first is in the best interest of all fire districts involved and their citizens;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE MERIDIAN CITY/RURAL FIRE
PROTECTION DISTRICT COMMISSIONERS:
Section 1: That the Mutual Cooperation (Automatic Aid) Plan by and between
North Ada County Fire & Rescue, Meridian City/Rural Fire District, Eagle Fire District,
and Star Joint Fire Protection District, a copy of which Agreement, marked Exhibit A,
is attached hereto and incorporated herein by reference, be, and the same hereby is,
approved both as to form and content.
Section 2: That the Meridian Fire Chief is hereby authorized to execute and
attest the Agreement on behalf of the Meridian City/Rural Fire Department.
Section 3: That this Resolution shall be in full force an effect immediately upon
its adoption and approval.
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MUTUAL COOPERATION (AUTOMATIC AIDI PLAN
idaho Code Section 31-1430A states:
Fire protection districts created underthis chapter are herebyempowered
to enter into written agreements with fire protection districts within the
state of Idaho and of neighboring states and with counties, incorporated
cities and privately funded organizations or associations within the state
of Idaho and of neighboring states for their mutual protection, joint use,
ownership and/or operation of land, equipment or facilities, or for the
protection of either of the contracting parties.
Agreements may provide for a consideration of mutual protection,
joint use, ownership and/or operation of land, equipment or facilities, or
for protection at a fixed monetary consideration or a monetary
consideration based on the reasonable value of services actually rendered
under the agreement. Any monetary consideration payable under such
agreements by a fire protection district created under this chapter may
be paid only out of the treasury of the fire protection district.
FINDINGS
The fire chiefs for the North Ada County Fire & Rescue, Eagle, Meridian
City/Rural and Star Fire Districts find that their respective fire districts would benefit
from an agreement for mutual protection as contemplated by Idaho Code Section 31-
1430A. Presently, all districts operate under the Mutual Aid & Disaster Protection &
Assistance Agreement, signed on Se.ptember 29, 1987. The dispatch procedures of
the 1987 Agreement require a fire district to arrive at the scene of a fire before
requesting help from a neighboring district. Also, a fire district must respond to a fire
within its district, even if a neighboring district's station may be closer in proximity
to the fire. These provisions of the 1987 Agreement are improved on by provisions
of this Agreement. This Agreement provides a system whereby more manpower is
routed to a fire at the time of dispatch rather than after the arrival of the first fire
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engine. Furthermore, this Agreement is structured so that the station nearest to a fire
is dispatched, regardless of the district within ,which the fire is located.
The purpose of this Agreement is to provide quicker service and safer fire
ground operations to the citizens and fire fighters in the above mentioned fire districts.
Additionally, other provisions encompassed in this Agreement should result in financial
savings to all fire districts because they will not duplicate specialized training and
equipment purchases.
This Agreement will not change the existing boundaries which were created
pursuant to the Idaho State Code Fire District Law. Thus, for purposes of funding,
payment of employees, and record maintenance, the existing boundaries remain
unchanged. Additionally, the North Ada County Fire & Rescue, Meridian City/Rural
Fire Protection District, Eagle Fire Protection District, and Star Joint Fire Protection
District will still participate in the 1987 Mutual Aid & Disaster Protection & Assistance
Agreement. The fire districts involved in this Agreement, because of their limited size
and resources, have developed this Agreement so that they have the same fire
fighting capability as the larger districts which are not parties to this Agreement but
are parties to the Mutual Aid & Disaster Protection & Assistance Agreement.
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DEFINITIONS
1. First in. Refers ta the fire station located nearest a grass fire, structure fire,
medical emergency, auto accident, public service call or any other occurrence
requiring the services provided by a fire station.
2. The districts involved in this agreement will be designed, for dispatching
purposes only, as follows.
(a) North Ada County Fire & Rescue No. 1 is designated County Fire Station
No. 1.
(b) North Ada County Fire & Rescue Station No. 2 is designated County Fire
Station No. 2.
(c) Meridian City/Rural Fire Station is designated County Fire Station No. 3.
(d) Eagle Fire Station is designated County Fire Station No. 4.
(e) Star Fire Station is designated County Fire Station No. 5.
DISTRICTS
1. Listed befow are the districts for which each fire station shatl supply the first
engine in case of a fire and/or other emergency, unless that station is already involved
in a fire and/or other emergency.
a. County Station #1. Will supply the first engine for all areas
currently served by North Ada County Fire & Rescue Station #1,
and Duncan Lane, Hill Road and State Street east of Duncan.
b. County Station #2. Wil{ supply the first engine for all areas
currently being served by North Ada County Fire & Rescue
Station #2, and Goldenrod west of Cloverdale and for
Edelweiss south of Goldenrod.
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c. County Station #3. Will supply the first engine for all areas
currently being served by the Meridian City/Rural Fire
Department. .
d. County Station #4. Will supply the first engine for all areas
currently being served by the Eagle Fire Department, and
Dry Creek north of Seamans Gulch Road and Broken Horn
north of Dry Creek Road, and Eagle Road north of
McMillan, Locust Grove to Dunwoody Court, and on
Chinden between Eagle and Locust Grove, and Homer Road
and Gooder John lane.
e. County Station #5. Will supply the first engine for all areas
currently being served by the Star Fire ~Department, and
Highway 20, east to Black Cat Road, and north on Black
Cat Road to the Boise River, and Hartley Road, Palmer Lane
and Floating Feather west of the 5600 block and Beacon
Light Road west of the 5600 block.
OPERATIONS
The purpose of the Agreement is coordination of the operational divisions of the
districts.
1. Response Procedures. Responses are the back bone of the operational plan
outlined in this cooperation agreement. No one district can provide a complete
full service department. However, with all districts working together, the
districts can accomplish a west county based service level that can provide
expanded alarm fire response, expanded heavy rescue capabilities, quicker first-
in medical response and hazardous materials response. Break down of the
Response Procedures is as follows.
a. Medical Calls - The nearest Station (First in) will respond with
one engine (or QRU unitl.
b. Auto Accidents. The nearest Station (First in) will respond with one
engine (or QRU/Rescue unitl.
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c. Auto Accidents with Extrication. The nearest Station (First in) will
respond to the accident. Extrication follows the dispatching SOP
currently in place. .
d. Grass Fires. The nearest (First in) station will respond with one brush
truck. Grass fires in the foothills will follow the current dispatching SOP.
e. Structure Fires. The two closest stations will respond with one engine
each.
f. Public Service Calls. District within Jurisdictional boundaries will
respond. ~
2. Multiple Unit Responses. When a unit is the first to arrive at a fire within
its jurisdiction, it must give an initial report and assume command of the
incident. If the first unit to arrive on the scene is not within its jurisdiction, it
has the following options:
a. Pass command to the second unit on the scene, which should be,
unde~ this Agreement, a unit with jurisdiction.
b. Retain command. In this event, the unit with jurisdiction must send
a command person to the command post to assist in the planning and
course of action to resolve the incident.
3. This Agreement qoverns disoatchingoqerations f r initial dis~atchina onlv.
The district with jurisdiction should dictate the remaining response from its
district.
4. Cover for occupied District. In the event all of the fire fighters and
equipment in a given fire district are occupied, that district may request of one
of the three remaining districts that they supply a truck to stand by in the
occupied district's station until such time as the occupied district has returned
a truck to its own station. Dispatching SOP 4.320 lists other stations that may
be used for station coverage.
5. Trainina. This Agreement will be more efficient if the parties to this
Agreement engage in joint training exercises for the following: fire, emergency
medical treatment, extrication, trench, confined space, haz-mat, water, ice,
high angle and building collapse response. A training committee with a
representative from each district may schedule and conduct joint training drills
with mandatory training on a quarte~ly basis.
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This Agreement shall not negate the right or duty of a district to provide
independent training to members of its department as deemed appropriate by the
District.
IV.
PURCHASING
An additional purpose of this Agreement is to coordinate the purchase of
equipment and supplies in a cost efficient manner for the benefit of the citizens of
each district. Pursuant to this agreement, if the districts find joint purchasing of
goods and supplies provides a less expensive price, this Agreement authorizes any one
of the districts to coordinate purchase of equipment or supplies with any or atl of the
other districts in accordance with Idaho Code Section 67-2332.
V.
INFORMATION EXCHANGE
Each district shall be responsible for maintaining records of responses ir- their
respective districts. For responses that require a station other than the district with
juri~diction, a company officer of the outside station is required to complete the
appropriate incident report. This information then shall be communicated to the
district with jurisdiction, so that it may complete its records.
VI.
GENERAL PROVISIONS
1. Each party shall be responsible for its own equipment and personnel and
shall bear the risk of any loss or damage to its equipment, or injury to its personnel,
occurring as a result of the operation and use of equipment or personnel under and in
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accordance with this Agreement.
2. This Agreement shall become effeGtive upon its execution by all of the
parties involved.
3. Should any term or provision of this Agreement, or the application thereof
to any persons, parties or circumstances, for any reason be illegal or invalid, then the
illegality or invalidity shall not affect the other valid and legaf provisions of this
Agreement and shall be construed and enforced as if such illegal or invalid provision
had not be contained therein.
4. If any party wishes to withdraw from this Agreement, it may do so upon 30
days written notice to all othe~ parties. If two or more parties withd~aw from this
Agreement, this Agreement shall terminate as to all parties.
Thirty days written notice shall be furnished to the fire chiefs of the remaining
districts.
~arr erry, Fire C~iief
No h Ada Countv Fire & Rescue
Dan Friend, Fire Chief
Eagle Fire Protection District
Kenny Bov4ers, Fire Chief
Meridian Cit Rural Fire Protection District
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Tracy R6ynor, Fire Cfiief
Star Joint Fire Protection District
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CONSENT TO ASSIGNMENT
This Agreement dated as of , among FORSGREN ASSOCIATES, P.A.
("Assignor"), an Idaho professional corporation, KELLER ASSOCIATES, INC. ('Assignee'~, an
Idaho corporation and The City of Meridian, Idaho ("City'~.
RECITALS
A. The City and Assignor entered into the following contract whereby Assignor
agreed to provide certain services to The City as described by the Agreement for Engineering
Services in association with the Meridian wastewater treatment piant ultraviolet disinfection
facilities design and construction supervision.
B. Assignor desires to assign to Assignee, and Assignee desires to assume from
Assignor, tMe rights, duties, obligations and liabilities past and present of Assignor under the
Contract, and The City consents to have Assignee complete all remaining obligations in respect
of the Contract.
NOW, THEREFORE, in consideration ofthe mutual promises herein contained, the parties
hereto agree as follows:
1. Assignor hereby assigns and transfers all of its rights, duties, obligations, and
liabilities past and present, under the Contract to Assignee.
2. Assignee hereby assumes, agrees to be bound by, and undertakes to pertorm
each and every one of the terms, covenants, and conditions contained in the Contract to be
performed by Assignor. Assignee further assumes all future and past obligations and liabilities
of, and all claims and demands against, Assignor under the Contract in all respects as if
Assignee were the original party to the Contract.
3. The City hereby consents in writing to the assignment of the Contract by Assignor
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to Assignee, and recognizes Assignee as Assignor's successor in interest to the Contract in all
respects as if Assignee were the original party of the Contract.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the parties hereto have caused their signatures to be affixed to
this Agreement by their duly authorized officers as of the day first above written.
FORSGREN ASSOCIATES, INC.
By
State of Idaho
County of )"°•
Title
On this day of in the year of
.~before me personally appeared
known to me to be the person whose name is subscribed to the within
instrument, and acknowledged to me that he executed the same.
Notary Public of Idaho
Residing at:
My Commission Expires:
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KELLER ASSOCIATES, INC.
By
Title
State of Idaho )
County of )'~
On this day of
in the year of
. before me personally appeared
known to me to be the person whose name is subscribed to the within
instrument, and acknowledged to me that he executed the same.
Notary Public of Idaho
Residing at:
My Commission Expires:
CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO
By
Title
State of Idaho )
County of )'~
On this day of
in the year of
. before me personally appeared
known to me to be the person whose name is subscribed to the within
instrument, and acknowledged to me that he executed the same.
Notary Public of Idaho
Residing at:
My Commission Expires:
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