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MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
FEBRUARY 18, 1992
ITEM:
MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING HELD FEBRUARY 4, 1992: (APPROVED)
1: BEER LICENSE FOR MAVERICK COUNTRY STORE: (APPROVED)
2: PUBLIC HEARING: REZONE REQUEST BY WARRIOR ENTERPRISES: (APPROVED)
3: PUBLIC HEARING: ANNEXATION & ZONING REQUEST BY BRENT BARRUS: (APPROVED)
4: PUBLIC HEARING: REZONE REQUEST W/PRELIMINARY PLAT, TRACT SUBDIVISION,
MERIDIAN PLACE LIMITID & PROPERTIES WEST:(APpROVED)
5: PUBLIC HEARING: ANNEXATION & ZONING REQUEST W/PRELIMINARY PLAT, DANBURY PARK
SUBDIVISION, CAPITAL DEVELOPMENT: (APPROVED)
6: PUBLIC HEARING: PRII,IMINARY & FINAL PLAT, SUNSHINE ADDITION, DIANE STANLEY: (APPROVED)
7: COVENANTS ON SUNSHINE ADDITION: (APPROVED)
8: PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY & FINAL PLAT ON WHITETAIL .SUBDIVISION, R.A. ASSOCIATES:
.(APPROVED)
9: COVENANTS ON WHITETAIL SUBDIVISION: (APPROVED)
10: PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT ON BEZ'f~~AVEN SUBDIVISION: INTFI~TEST D PPROVED
11: FINAL PLAT ON GLENFIELD # 9: L & S SALES: (APROVED)
12: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR DAIRY QUEEN BY BILL HON:
(APPROVED)
13: REQUEST FOR COMPACT CAR PARKING BY SCHOOL DISTRICT AT MERIDIAN HIGH:(APPROVED)
14: BID ON SOUTH SLOUGH SEWER: (BID AWARDED)
15: DEPARTMENT REPORTS:
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MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL FEBRUARY 18 1992
The Regular Meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to
order by Mayor Grant P. Kingsford at 7:30 P. M.:
Members Present: Ron Tolsma, Bob Giesler, Bob Corrie, Max
Yerrington:
Others Present: Pat Fujii, David Collins, Rich Allison, Frank
Thomason, Roy Johnson, Stan Stanley, Wayne S. Forrey, Kevin
Jones, Dan Torfin, Gary Lee, Tom Edy, Steve & Pat Hall, Jon
Barnes, William Hon, Doc Schlekeway, Dale Newberry, Brent Barrus,
Gary Smith, Bill Gordon, Wayne Crookston, Mike Hagood, Pat Tealy:
MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING HELD FEBRUARY 4, 1992:
The Motion was made by Giesler and seconded by Tolsma to approve
the minutes of the previous meeting held February 4, 1992 as
written:
Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM #1: BEER LICENSE FOR MAVERICK COUNTRY STORE:
Kingsford: The Chief had no problem with this request.
The Motion was made by Giesler and seconded by Tolsma to approve
of the Beer License for the Maverick Country Store.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM #2: PUBLIC HEARING: REZONE REQUEST BY WARRIOR ENTERPRISES:
Kingsford: At this time I will open the Public Hearing and
invite the owner to come forward and be sworn in.
Mike Hagood, 903 E. 1st, Meridian, was sworn by the attorney.
Hagood: On the rezoning we are trying to rezone the church at
1203 E. 1st for commercial use, to move the Karate School that's
now at 903 E. 1st into that building.
Giesler: There is nothing going on in that building right now?
Hagood: Right now they are still holding services and we plan to
on Sundays, they will be using it for two hours in the morning
and one hour in the evening until they get their building built.
Tolsma: The Fire Department had a question on the basement of
that? Your not going to be using the basement?
Hagood: Yes we are. We've talked with the Fire Marshal and we
are having them put in a sprinkler system.
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Kingsford: You saw the requirements of the Engineer and do you
have any problems with them?
Hagood: No I don't. The only thing on that is we are asking for
a little bit of an extension time possibly with some of the other
pre-construction we are doing - as far as putting back in the
asphalt and the sidewalk according to the City specifications.
Kingsford: Any one else from the public who would like to offer
testimony on this? No response. I will close the Public
Hearing.
Giesler: You stated it was going to take some time to put the
sprinkler system in and so forth?
Hagood: Not the sprinkler system, we have to hook up on the
Washington Street side and that's where they are talking about a
parking lot. The sprinkler will be in before we can get an
occupancy permit.
Giesler: So as soon as that is done, you would go ahead and pave
that though.
Hagood: I guess what I was referring to is some of the costs, we
didn't realize we would be running into the sprinkling system, we
also have to get it set up for handicap access and that's why I
was asking for an extension.
The Motion was made by Tolsma and seconded by Giesler to approve
the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law as prepared for
Planning and Zoning.
Roll Call Vote: Yerrington - Yea; Giesler - Yea; Corrie - Yea;
Tolsma - Yea:
Motion Carried: All Yea:
The Motion was made by Corrie and seconded by Giesler to direct
the City attorney to prepare a zoning ordinance.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM #3: PUBLIC HEARING: ANNEXATION & ZONING REQUEST BY BRENT
BARRUS:
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Kingsford: I will now open the Publi
representative present? No response.
testimony? What this is is a request
property just west of Meridian Paint and
the boat shop. No response for Hearing.
hearing.
~ Hearing. Is there a
Anyone else to offer
for annexation for the
Glass between that and
I will close the public
Tolsma: The Engineer's comment says that the developer will
extend an 8" sewer line to and through his property to a point
approximately 1/2 mile east of Locust Grove Road. Is that in the
future or?
Eng. Smith: Yes, there's a period after to and through is
property. His sewer will extend on to the east approximately
1/2 mile east of Locust Grove Road.
The Motion was made by Tolsma and seconded by Corrie to approve
of the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law as prepared for
Planning & Zoning.
Roll Call Vote: Yerrington - Yea; Giesler - Yea; Corrie - Yea;
Tolsma - Yea:
Motion Carried: All Yea:
The Motion was made by Corrie and seconded by Yerrington to have
the attorney prepare an Ordinance.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM #4: PUBLIC HEARING: REZONE REQUEST W/PRELIMINARY PLAT,
TRACT SUBDIVISION, MERIDIAN PLACE LIMITED & PROPERTIES WEST:
Kingsford: I will open the Public Hearing. Is there a
representative present?
Gary Lee, 1750 N. Summertree, Meridian, was sworn by the
attorney.
Lee: I'd like to give you a brief history and also what the
development consists of and then answer any questions you may
have. This particular piece of ground, known as the Harmon
Property, originally was annexed into the City limits in 1975,
there's about 80 acres next to Locust Grove Road. At that time,
it was zoned A-Residential prior to any zoning changes.
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Preliminary plat was prepared then called Meridian Place
Subdivision Unit #2. It consisted of 483 units on about 106
acres that was holding a density of 4.5 single family houses per
acre. Subsequent to that time of course the zoning was changed
and updated and it is now R-4, which allows four units per acre.
Part of this request is to request a rezone to R-8 to allow for
some lots that are less than 8,000 square foot minimum in R-4.
This particular project is about 79 acres in size. The plan
calls for 300 single family dwelling units plus one well lot.
The lot density would result in 3.8 residential units per acre
which is considerably less than the previous plan. Average lot
sizes in this project will be 68 to 70 feet in width and about
100 to 105 feet in depth, resulting in an average size of about
7100 sq. feet. House pricing in this development will range from
X80,000 to (120,000. The minimum house size the developer is
seeking is 1300 square feet and the development will consist of
two and three car garages as well. The improvements for the
project - sanitary sewer - this particular piece of ground is
broken into a north forty acres and a south forty acres in our
sewer planning. The southerly forty acres will drain into the
northeast 10th Street sewer as it will extend through the Ewing
property which is part of that Meridian Place Subdivision and
into this particular project and on over to the East of Locust
Grove, that will serve about half the houses. The other half
which is the northerly forty acres will be served by what's
called the south slough sewer extension. By the time we reach
that phase which is about phase four or five hopefully the south
slough will be available and we will be able to extend it through
the project and serve the north forty acres. Water for this
project, there's an existing ten inch main on Locust Grove Road
at E. Meadowgrass which is directly across the street from our
first phase. We will extend that ten inch line up Locust Grove
for future development. We'll also extend a line into the
development which will ultimately loop into the water line
ejected over on N.E. 10th. We'll also carry the minimum 10" grid
system on the half miles lines as required by City policy.
Streets will be constructed to ACHD requirements. We will also
improve N. Locust Grove to a minor arterial status and we will
dedicate the required right of way there and improve it to the
width required by the highway district. We did have tech-review
with ACRD today and I'd like to leave a copy with the Council
tonight. I'd like to go through what their site specific
requirements are. As you know we are required to perform a
traffic study for this development because it's in excess of the
fifty lots that their policy dictates. That study resulted in
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the fact that current traffic flows on Fairview and Locust Grove
at this time are to a point where a traffic light is warranted.
There are two of the items that dictate when a light is warranted
and that is of course the amount of traffic and the amount of
delay time making turns onto Fairview. In ACRD review and
comments, their site specific comments of course we'll dedicate
that 33 feet of right of way for Locust Grove and build our half
of the 52 foot street, which is a four lane street. Construct
the curb, gutter and sidewalk, etc. direct lot access to Locust
Grove is prohibited which is pretty much standard policy. Direct
lot access to Meadowgrass is prohibited with the exception of one
lot, which is lot 2 of block 5. The traffic signal is required
at this time, it will be installed by ACRD and not required as a
condition of approval for this development. It has been placed
on a list of improvements throughout the county and they did not
give us a time it will be done. Currently there are two
irrigation feed ditches that traverse across the property, one
along the east boundary next to Locust Grove Road and one along
the south boundary from east to west. Those two ditches will be
piped to serve the neighbors both west and north of us. We have
met with those water users and have reviewed the requirements
with Nampa Meridian Irrigation District and have sized the line
to carry the flows projected. Storm water generated from the
road right of ways will be retained on site. We anticipate using
a combination of sub-surface drainage pits and surface drainage
swells. These systems will be designed for the twenty five year
storm event. The lot irrigation, when we originally submitted
the plat back in November, at that time we requested a variance
in the pressurized irrigation requirement of the ordinance, the
new ordinance of course allows us the option to request a waiver
and to pay into the reserve fund and we would like to do that at
this time. Are there any questions I can answer?
Tolsma: You stated on there that the houses are going to be 1300
square feet minimum?
Lee: Yes.
Tolsma: The comment sheet here says 1400 sq. feet minimum.
Lee: P & Z made that recommendation to Council, the developer
would like to maintain a 1300 sq. foot minimum.
Kingsford: Anyone else from the public to offer testimony?
Jon Barnes, 1034 Justin Place, was sworn by the attorney.
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Barnes: I'd like to address the Council and Mayor on the sizes
of the housing. We don't know how long that market will stay
good and we would rather have a little more flexibility in being
able to come down closer to that 1300 if the market in fact
dictates that we need to. One of the things we are going to do
is require a six - twelve pitch on the roof so the roof pitch
will be a little more steeper and we are going to require an
architectural asphalt shingle. As far as size we feel that just
because of the length of a project like this we would like
opportunity to come down to the minimum that you require in that
zone which is 1300 sq. feet.
Corrie: Mr. Barnes, on the homes that you were building there in
Boise, we looked at those pictures, were any of those under 1400
square feet?
Barnes: All of them were 1447 up, but we would just like the
flexibility to pull down to 1325 or 1350 just because we don't
know how long the market will stay strong.
Tolsma: The Fire Department has a question on secondary access,
is it possible to maybe work phase 8 in earlier?
Barnes: Gary and I met .with the Fire Chief and he's agreed to go
clear back to the end of the third phase where it would pick up
that right of way through the Ewing's. We are getting an actual
easement for a road right of way all the way through Meridian
Place #3. Explained to Council on map. (See tape)
Kingsford: Anyone else from the public to testify? No response.
I will close the public hearing. Run a quick total on how many
lots there are Mr. Lee please.
Giesler: Have you gone over the Engineer's comments?
Lee: Yes.
Clerk Niemann: You mean we are going to have to change the
Findings to allow more lots for the difference?
Kingsford: That's going to depend on just how many lots, Mr. Lee
is calculating.
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Crookston: You can amend the Findings tonight.
Kingsford: Any other questions from the Council? No response.
Giesler: How many extra dollars is 100 square feet in a home? I
mean all your lots will handle a 1400 square foot home won't
they?
Barnes: X65.00 a square foot.
Lee: There's 105 lots in there for three phases.
Barnes: I'd be glad - if you want to hold me at 1350 I just need
some flexibility or would like some.
Kingsford: It seems to me we have 1350 or you designate by our
ordinance and specify on lot percentages. So 1350 would be more
appropriate than 1300 to meet our ordinance. Any other comments
or questions?
Giesler: I have a question for the City Engineer. Do you know
approximately how long that might take for ACRD to get those
lights on that corner?
Eng. Smith: No I don't.
The Motion was made by Tolsma and seconded by Yerrington to
approve the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law with the
amendment of 1350 minimum square feet with 105 lots through phase
three.
Roll Call Vote: Yerrington - Yea; Giesler - Yea; Corrie - Yea;
Tolsma - Yea:
Motion Carried: All Yea:
The Motion was made by Tolsma and seconded by Giesler to have the
attorney prepare an ordinance for zone change.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM #5: PUBLIC HEARING: ANNEXATION & ZONING REQUEST
W/PRELIMINARY PLAT, DANBURY PARK SUBDIVISION, CAPITAL
DEVELOPMENT:
Kingsford: At this time I will open the Public Hearing. I'd
like to invite the developer to testify.
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Roy Johnson, 4658 Yorgason, Boise, was sworn by the attorney.
Johnson: I'm sure you have reviewed the plat, we have 140 lots
proposed on the forty acres called the Peterson Place off
Meridian Road. We are planning on doing the project in two
phases, 70 lots being the first phase and approximately 70 lots
in the second phase. The south slough project has the main line
which is going right through here to be done sometime in the next
90 days or so. I have read the Engineer's comments and I have no
problems with anything. One of the things that we went through
with the planning commission was the access. We have two access
points on Meridian Road, we have proposed one access to the north
through the project and none to the south. The Engineer and the
Clerk have both stated they would like to have an access to the
south connecting into the subdivision so we can have both sewer
and water access. We've talked to ACRD and they have no problem
with us not having the access to the north and using that access
and placing it in the south so we have provided the access as
requested by the City. I will answer any questions you may have.
Corrie: The Fire Department made a comment about the entrance
into Meridian Manor Sub., is that going to be an entrance?
Johnson: That's what I'm talking about now.
Kingsford: Any other questions? Anyone else from the public who
would like to offer testimony on this issue? No response. I
will close the Public Hearing. You have the Findings before you,
any questions on those?
Tolsma: How about the comments from Beledco.
Johnson: Their comments pertain to the road we are talking about
putting into their subdivision.
Engineer Smith: My request was to have that access from Meridian
Manor into Waterberry in order to gain access for a sewer line
from Meridian Manor to the south slough sewer so we wouldn't have
to construct or the developer would not have to construct a lift
station which we don't want to do. The request by the developer
to eliminate the access to the north side though, I wonder if we
are going to have a problem them with block length then on the
north boundary of the subdivision. The access to the south
slough sewer from the property to the north of the south slough
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is going to have to cross the slough to get to it, and that
access road that was planned on the north boundary would have
served as a way for that property to access the slough. (Further
explanation - see tape)
Johnson: I'd like to comment on this because this is something
that I haven't discussed with him. What we proposed on the south
side there when we didn't have a road in there was to put a 20
foot access through that strip, in fact clear across the other
subdivision, we can do the same thing on this one here. We have
a strip along the south slough that we've set aside as a park
like area, a place for the people here to use. We can provide a
20 foot access to get through there to take care of that so that
you'll still be able to get your vehicles through.
Kingsford: What sort of an access are we talking about and how
would it be maintained?
Johnson: It will be maintained by the Homeowners Association.
Discussion. (See tape)
Kingsford: Is there a motion on the findings?
The Motion was made by Yerrington and seconded by Corrie to
approve the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for the
annexation and zoning request for preliminary plat for Capital
Development.
Roll Call Vote: Yerrington - Yea; Giesler - Yea; Corrie - Yea;
Tolsma - Yea;
Motion Carried: All Yea:
The Motion was made by Tolsma and seconded by Yerrington to have
the attorney prepare the zoning ordinance annexation for this
request.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM #6: PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY & FINAL PLAT, SUNSHINE
ADDITION, DIANE STANLEY:
Kingsford: I will open the Public Hearing. Is there a
representative present?
Rich Allison, 1040 E. Pine, Meridian, was sworn by the attorney.
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Allison: We have submitted a plat for a two parcel division of
property on W. 4th Street which is located immediately adjacent
to Meridian Elementary School. The property previously was being
considered as an alternative school site by the Meridian School
District. After objection from the immediate neighbors, the
school district didn't pursue the school at that location.
Therefore they declared the property as excess property. The
school district upon selling .64 acres retained 14.5 acres of
property which exceeds by 2 1/2 acres the normal school
requirement and that's why the property was sold. Upon sale of
the property to Diane Stanley, she was or did intend at that time
to develop a senior citizens retirement facility and upon
contacting neighbors for a conditional use permit for such use
found that the neighbors were also against that. Therefore, the
Stanley's went to Howard Engineering Company and divided the
property or proposed a subdivision map of the property, divide
the property into two parcels. Each parcel would exceed 12,600
square feet in size. The property is currently served by city
water, gas, power and city sewer on the north boundary of the
property. The water department for the city requested initially
a 16 foot easement for the existing sewer line which doesn't
exist. Upon meeting with Earl Ward he agreed that if we would
gravel that north 10 feet of the property where the existing
sewer line would exist today that that would be satisfactory to
him. Also the property is served by Nampa Meridian Irrigation
District with a gravity flow irrigation system. Therefore we
have requested that the pressurized irrigation system under the
subdivision ordinance be waived since it is served by existing
irrigation water. We would be quite willing to provide for the
culverting of that irrigation district and the placement of
appropriate boxes to serve that property. We ask that under
section 9-604 that several of those subdivision requirements be
waived since it's only a two parcel subdivision, since there
exists no curb, gutter and sidewalk on the west side of East 4th
Street and many of the requirements would not necessarily fulfill
any useful function. Explained further. Asked to waive all ACRD
requirements and meet the requirements of the City as outlined in
their materials supplied to us and request that this may be
recorded under a parcel map rather than a subdivision.
Tolsma: Questioned about the irrigation water.
Allison: It goes along the front of the property from the south
to the north and serves additional properties to the north.
Kingsford: Do they currently irrigate that parcel with that
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Allison: I think they have part of the time but they also have
sprinklers out there to serve irrigation. There is an additional
ditch along the north boundary which would also be along the
proposed ten foot easement for the benefit of sewer irrigation
water which would stay in place for the benefit of some
homeowners that are on West Washington Street.
Kingsford: Anyone else to testify?
Mike Farley, 1222 W. 4th, was sworn by the attorney.
Farley: Questioned the access for children to get through this
property to get to school. Can easement be used for children to
go back and forth to school?
Allison: This is one thing that should be addressed and I have
talked to Dan Mabe about this specific thing and that is part of
the reason they were selling the property is because they were
having a problem with people parking on W. 4th Street and so
forth. Upon reviewing with Dan Mabe, he indicated that if in
fact we did provide an easement which would be fine, that they
would want that easement fenced and they would want a gate
provided at that point where they enter the school.
Kingsford: Hut he's not talking about a problem as far as
children access?
Allison: Children access during the school year is absolutely no
problem.
Kingsford: Anyone else to testify?
Trudy Hadley, 225 Cherry Ave., was sworn by the attorney.
Hadley: Expressed concern about children walking to school if
not allowed to use this access.
Kingsford: Anyone else to testify? No response. 1 will close
the Public Hearing.
The Motion was made by Giesler and seconded by Yerrington to
approve the preliminary and final plat for Diane Stanley.
Atty. Crookston: Have concern about the waiver requirements. I
think that if you are going to grant the short subdivision plat
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procedure, I think that's fine but you need to make a finding
under the ordinance that the parcel's have the appropriate
improvements on the lots and then on the other request some of
the subdivision requirements if you don't find that then it needs
to have a request for a variance for those other items they want
waived.
Giesler: Withdrew his motion to approve.
Yerrington: Withdrew his second to approve.
The Motion was made by Giesler and seconded by Yerrington that we
approve of the preliminary and final plat short version with
findings to warrant the improvements being satisfactory.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM #7: COVENANTS ON SUNSHINE ADDITION:
Kingsford: Gary had one on his findings sheet. On irrigation
water to be provided in accordance with city ordinance, I think
we are asking for a waiver there for that since it's already
available.
Atty., Crookston: Comments on irrigation which has been
resolved. Also on animal control.
The Motion was made by Giesler and seconded by Tolsma to approve
the Covenants on Sunshine Addition with requested amendment by
City Attorney.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM #8: PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY & FINAL PLAT ON WHITETAIL
SUBDIVISION, R. A. ASSOCIATES
Kingsford: I will open the public hearing. Is there a
representative present?
Pat Tealy, 479 Main Street, Boise, was sworn by the attorney.
Tealy: I'm here representing R.A. Associates in their
application for final plat for Whitetail Subdivision. Whitetail
Subdivision is a four lot subdivision with minimum lot size of
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approximately 8100 square feet. It's located at the NW corner of
11th and Cherry. We are asking that one of the conditions, the
irrigation be waived on this application. The pressure
irrigation is just quite expensive for a four lot subdivision.
If there are any questions I'd be glad to answer.
Kingsford: Your proposing to sprinkle with City water?
Tealy: Correct.
Kingsford: So you choose to go with the funding of the City
well's for that then?
Tealy: I believe that's the option that we would go with. How
does that work now?
Kingsford: We are setting up basically a fund that will allow us
to drill wells to satisfy that irrigation requirement.
Tealy: What is the cost per lot?
Kingsford: We haven't decided that yet. Any other questions?
Corrie: What's the dwelling size?
Tealy: 1300 square foot minimum.
Giesler: Do you know anything about this problem the Fujii's
talk about with the leak on the box?
Tealy: Mrs. Fujii can probably explain that. But what I believe
it is is there is a main line that runs along the north side of
Cherry Lane and it has a pressurized irrigation system and some
of the boxes that carry the water to the north into this land to
the north of Cherry Lane leak and cause quite a bit of water to
collect in the lower portions of the lots in there.
Giesler: Is this the same one that was brought up when we were
discussing Deerfield?
Tealy: It is the same one that has come up in Deerfield and
Field of Dreams Subdivisions. The only solution is to some how
seal that main pressure line along Cherry Lane and I don't know
who is responsible for that.
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Eng. Smith: If it is within the public right of way then the
Highway District will take care of it. If it's not, it's up to
the ditch users. I don't think it's an irrigation district line
at that particular place.
Giesler: Gary will you look into this?
Kingsford: Anyone else to testify?
Mrs. Pat Fujii, 4345 Pasadena Drive, Boise, was sworn by the
attorney.
Fujii: On January 14th my husband and I gave you each a letter
stating our concerns. First thing was a fence - R.A. Associates
stated they would build a six foot wooden fence between our
property and theirs, mainly because we have a barb wire fence for
our horses and we didn't want any children getting hurt. The
other concern is that our property is the lowest in that area and
so when R.A. Associates build up their property to put the houses
in then all that would drain onto our property. Voiced concerns
about leakage of water and not getting any results.
Kingsford: We will share in your run around. Is there anyone
else from the public who would like to offer testimony? No
response. I will close the public hearing.
Giesler: Is there something they are willing to do on the fence?
Tealy: We agreed at Planning and Zoning to build a fence along
the boundary.
Kingsford: Work with Gary and make sure the water situation gets
remedied so that the fence doesn't get ruined.
Yerrington: Who's responsibility is this wooden fence after it's
put up?
Kingsford: The property owners on both sides, usually. So it
would be a responsibility of the owners of each of these four
lots to maintain that.
The Motion was made by Corrie and seconded by Yerrington to
approve the preliminary and final plat with the irrigation
contribution in lieu of the irrigation ordinance.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
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The Motion was made by Corrie and seconded by Yerrington to have
the payment made before the final plat is signed.
Motion Carried: All yea:
ITEM #9: COVENANTS ON WHITETAIL SUBDIVISION:
Kingsford: Counselor do you have any comments on those?
Crookston: Section 18 that deals with the elevations between two
and six feet and the site triangle I think that needs to be three
feet and eight feet. There is also some typographical errors
that we can straighten out.
The Motion was made by Tolsma and seconded by Giesler to approve
the Covenants on Whitetail Subdivision conditioned upon meeting
the City Attorney's requirements.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM #10: PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT ON BETHHAVEN
SUBDIVISION: INTERWEST DEVELOPMENT:
Kingsford: I will now open the public hearing. Is there a
representative present?
David Collins, 3350 Americana Terrace, Boise, was sworn by the
attorney.
Collins: I will be happy to answer any questions.
Kingsford: Have you seen the comment sheets? There is a comment
here from Jack that the Stucker property should be included in
the plat as a lot.
Collins: They were deeded out some years ago from the master
parcel, I don't believe they -
Kingsford: It's already been subdivided from this parcel.
Collins: Yes. I think ACRD would probably handle that we are
only talking a very limited frontage. If they are deeded out
less than a year prior to the development of the master parcel
then the Highway District conditions that the curb, gutter and
sidewalk go in front of the homestead pieces also. But if the
deeds taking those out are over a year old then they don't
require it.
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Kingsford: So you are saying that ACHD would make those
improvements.
Collins: Right more than likely.
Tolsma: There was also a comment in there from Gary Smith about
the stub road to the west property boundary will tie into the
Stonehouse Church property.
Collins: Yes we've eliminated that. The one to the west going
out of the southwest corner has been eliminated. The westerly
exit to the south off the master parcel has been moved
approximately 500 feet to the east to better fit some adjoining
parcels to the south for future potential development as well as
the entry road on the east off of Cherry Lane which is called
Beth Street on the preliminary plat. I'm working on a
realignment of that at Gary's request to better facilitate
keeping the ten inch water line system near the corner. I have
seen Gary's comments and have no trouble with any of those
conditions.
Kingsford: Anyone else to testify? No response. I will close
the public hearing.
Giesler: Mr. Mayor it is stated here that after 100 lots there
will be an additional access onto Cherry Lane, is that correct?
Collins: Yes. Also, the client did want me to request that we
be involved with the (in-audible) irrigation system rather than
building a separate system within the subdivision.
The Motion was made by Corrie and seconded by Giesler to approve
of the preliminary plat on Bethhaven Subdivision.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM #11: FINAL PLAT ON GLENNFIELD #9: L & S SALES:
The Motion was made by Tolsma and seconded by Giesler to approve
the final plat on Glennfield #9.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM #12: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUE5T FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
FOR DAIRY QUEEN BY BILL HON:
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Kingsford: I will now open the Public Hearing. Is there a
representative present?
Bill Hon, 954 Herringcove, Boise, was sworn by the attorney.
Hon: This is a request for a Conditional Use Permit for a Dairy
Queen Drive-Inn Restaurant on our property on E. First Street.
The access will be from a new street to intersect with E. First
Street. The new street will be built by ACHD specifications.
They require it to be a forty one foot wide street measured back
to back of the curbs with a five foot sidewalk on the south side.
The sewer and water will be extended as required.
Corrie: The Fire Department requested either a turn around on
that proposed road or connect up with that other street. Is that
a problem?
Hon: We'll certainly meet whatever we need to to do that.
Clerk Niemann: Where are you going to bring the sewer from?
Hon: The sewer is on our property to the east and it will come
from where the proposed road will be running east of the site.
Kingsford: Anyone else to testify? No response. I will close
the public hearing.
The Motion was made by Giesler and seconded by Yerrington to
approve the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law as prepared
for Planning and Zoning on the Conditional Use Permit for William
Hon for a Dairy Queen Drive-Inn Restaurant.
Roll Call Vote: Yerrington - Yea; Giesler - Yea; Corrie - Yea;
Tolsma - Yea:
Motion Carried: All Yea:
The Motion was made by Giesler and seconded by Tolsma to approve
the Conditional Use Permit for William Hon a Dairy Queen Drive-
Inn Restaurant.
Roll Call Vote: Yerrington - Yea; Giesler - Yea; Corrie - Yea;
Tolsma - Yea:
Motion Carried: All Yea:
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ITEM #13: REQUEST FOR COMPACT CAR PARKING BY SCHOOL DISTRICT AT
MERIDIAN HIGH:
Kingsford: The School with their addition to the gym, locker
room, weight room, and so forth are required to have additional
parking spaces. They are going to re-stripe all of these.
The Motion was made by Tolsma and seconded by Giesler to approve
of the request of the School District on compact car parking.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM #14: BID ON SOUTH SLOUGH SEWER:
Kingsford: The City Engineer will address those.
Eng. Smith: On February 14th we had a bid opening for
construction of our south slough sewer interceptor that would
connect near NW 11th Street in Meadowview Subdivision and extend
to the east to the NW corner of the Tract Subdivision that was
presented here this evening for your approval. That sewer line
project was separated into two schedules. Schedule I extends
from the beginning point to Meridian Road and Schedule II extends
from Meridian Road to the Tract Subdivision northwest corner. We
had six bidders. The low bidder for that project was Brown
Construction, they are from Caldwell. They have done work for
the City in previous years. (Explained - see tape.) Their bid
for Schedule I is 5268,830.00, their bid for Schedule II is
X120,696.00, a deduct was allowed in the bid if the bidder bid
both Schedule I and Schedule II, they showed a deduct of $50.00.
The total for their bid Schedule I and II is X389,476.00. As you
can see from the engineer's estimate that the total that they bid
for Schedule I & II is less than the total of the engineers
estimate for Schedule I. In part of our easement negotiations
with the property owners we ran into several items that it
appears is going to result in an added cost to the contractor to
satisfy those conditions of the property owners. #1 - going
through farm land the property owners have requested a width of
top soil be stripped from the trench area and that width of top
soil would be separated into a separate pile. Then the spoil
from the excavation of the trench can be placed along side of the
trench and not contaminate the soil. The contractor had figured a
certain width to strip and set aside to do his operation, it
appeared in talking to him yesterday with the engineer that this
width was not going to be adequate to contain all of his spoil
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pile so we decided to extend that width 5 additional feet. The
added expense for Schedule I is (2443.20 and Schedule II is
X2176.80. Again based on the experience we had two years ago on
the Ten Mile sewer line we still have a problem out there with
some contaminated farm ground. Also one item that was overlooked
in the original bidding document was the access for the
contractor on Venable Lane to get to the sewer line. Basically
that's his only access to start the project and to do that he
would need to utilize Venable Lane, which is a private lane.
Most of the lane is in very good condition, however the southerly
portion of it could suffer a little bit by the movement of the
construction vehicles. Stated price for gravel for possible
repair to Venable Lane, that would be the expense of that gravel
if any would be based on a unit price but based on the 300 cubic
yards estimated quantity there's an additional $2475.00 to be
added to that. Also to utilize Venable Lane they will need to
cross over Creason Lateral, which is what South Slough turns into
after the feeder ditch comes in from the Five Mile Creek and
there's a little concrete culvert that was built by the
irrigation district that we don't feel is capable of supporting
the construction vehicles so he would bridge over that existing
culvert. His cost to do that is X2700.00. Adding those items to
the original bid price you have a new total of $399,271.00. We
have a tentative meeting scheduled with the property owners on
Thursday of this week to talk to them and discuss the bid and the
schedule that we want to follow, any other concerns they may have
on their easement and we will want to receive their easement then
immediately, either at that time or immediately thereafter. The
contractor is ready to proceed as soon as we give him Notice of
Award which is what I would ask for this evening.
Kingsford: How about the easements on Schedule II?
Eng. Smith: I don't think there is a problem. (Explained - see
tape)
Kingsford: We feel we could
and meet start up schedule.
get those in hand for Schedule II
Eng. Smith: Yes definitely
basically delay Schedule II.
really critical is Schedule I.
with Schedule II because we can
The only part of this thing that is
Kingsford: It would be my recommendation given the prices that
were bid, I think they are outstanding. My feeling is that we
are going to need that Schedule II done in a reasonably close
fashion. It's my suggestion we go ahead and approve of the award
of both of them to Brown.
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PAGE 20
The Motion was made by Tolsma and seconded by Corrie to approve
of the bid received from Brown Construction with the amendments
that the Engineer has requested.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
The Motion was made by Yerrington and seconded by Giesler to
authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to sign the appropriate
documents on this construction project.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM #15: DEPARTMENT REPORTS:
Wayne Forrey: The first item is the Meridian Housing Inventory.
The field work is complete and we are printing the report for
each of the Council Members and Planning and Zoning Commission
Members, that will have maps and also recommendations and our
Findings. I'd like to request a joint work session to bring both
groups together and discuss that housing inventory or on the next
City Council Agenda. (Discussion - see tape) The next item I
have is the 11th Street blocked irrigation ditch. The Highway
District has cleaned a portion of the ditch in the right of way,
they just found some mud and some dirt. They lamped it and did
not see any blockage up to the elbow where it turns and goes
south along the back properties along 11th Street. Their feeling
is that the blockage is somewhere in the tree and the tree roots
have gotten into that pipe near Camellia and 11th. Their
recommendation is to get Roto Rooter out there and auger that.
Kingsford: Let's proceed then from the appropriate place.
Forrey: Downtown Redevelopment Phase II, item A we are still
waiting for that review appraisal. They had one additional
property they wanted more information on so that should be done
this week. We know have the contract and other documents ready
to submit to Department of Commerce. Item C - we completed our
walk through today and we are going to meet with the Highway
District Staff next week to review the conceptual design and
we'll also run that past Gary. We are on the agenda for the 27th
of February at 7:00 with the Board to get their endorsement of
the concept and see if there are any problems on that end. Also
next week we are anticipating distributing a Newsline on the
Phase II project but I'd like to ask the Council if you'd like to
distribute that to everyone on the East First Project or scale it
back just to the Phase II people.
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Kingsford: I would think we could phase that back to the people
that are in that corridor from the railroad tracks to Pine.
Forrey: Explained the meeting about the south slough. Also
number five, we met with the Highway District and I believe we
had very successful negotiations on this final pay estimate.
They asked me to go ahead and prepare the final funding spread
sheet that we could present to the~ACHD Board on the February
27th meeting. We are going to approach them for 1/2 of the extra
cost on E. First. (explained further - see tape)
Kingsford: What does that put the total amount for each side?
Forrey: It' s about 1460, 000.00 each side. It' s about 30 to
35,000 over the original estimate.
Kingsford: Any other department reports?
Yerrington: We met with the Legislating Committee and I wonder
if we as a body shouldn't write a letter to the Revenue and
Taxation Commission endorsing House Bili #569 to all the members
of that and have the Mayor sign.
Kingsford: What we are talking about here is the home rule local
option tax package as number one priority for the Association of
Idaho Cities Legislative Committee.
Yerrington: I think we ought to send that same letter to the
Representatives and Senators in Ada County.
The Motion was made by Yerrington and seconded by Tolsma to write
a letter supporting House Bill #569.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
Kingsford: Anyone else?
Giesler: Something has been bothering me and I'd like to bring
it up tonight. We have had a number of subdivisions come in
front of us this past few months, I don't have any idea of the
number of lots that we've approved but I think this body needs to
sit back and take a look at just where we are at. I would
recommend that as of tonight that no more annexation or
preliminary plats be looked at until we have had an opportunity
to look at our water supply, our sewer and our housing inventory
that Wayne has for us right now. I would make this in the form
of a motion and Yerrington seconded this.
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Discussion held by Mayor, Council and City Engineer. (see tape)
Eng. Smith: Stated that a water study should be completed in the
next two months. Water Master Plan and Proposals are now being
reviewed. Our system will pump approximately 5500 gallons per
minute maximum if there was a malfunction the water system
possibly could not supply the amount of water needed. In August
last year we pumped 121,500,000 gallons of water.
Crookston: We need to make a Finding that water is nearly at
capacity and adopt a moratorium and reassess on March 3, 1992.
We have to have factual findings to support a moratorium and if
necessary pass an ordinance on March 3, 1992. There is 1,000
more lots in the works and warrants action on likelihood the City
can't meet water needs. Finding that there is a likely situation
with the domestic water supply, Meridian may have inability to
provide the needs that are existent now. Based on that you can
adopt a moratorium resolution and determine at next meeting
whether or not that moratorium needs to be continued.
Kingsford: We have enough to do what we have now.
Crookston: We believe that's that the fact but additional
factual information would be substantially better, but we do have
substantial knowledge with what the City Engineer has indicated
and with what Bruce Stuart has said that we may very well be at
that juncture, but we can't say these are the figures.
The Motion was amended to include these facts.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
Kingsford: Council found a finding that the domestic water
system may very well be at capacity. Until we are able to gather
additional and conclusive knowledge we are placing a moratorium
on building, not currently in the works. Anything else before we
adjourn?
Giesler: Complimented the staff of the City for keeping the
Council informed.
Yerrington: There's been a request by one of our citizens to
have a skateboard ordinance. Expressed concerns about the bricks
being damaged.
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Kingsford: More concerned about pedestrians than the bricks. I
don't think we ought to be legislating against kids. I think the
alternative we ought to be looking at is to look for some place
we can start for them.
The Motion was made by Corrie and seconded by Yerrington to
adjourn at 9 : 45 P. M.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
(TAPE ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS)
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ATTACHED IS A LETTER FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT REGARDING THE
PARKING AT THE MERIDIAN HIGH SCHOOL:
UNDER THE ZONING & DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE ~ 2-414-7 IT REQUIRES
THAT THE CITY BE PETITIONED FOR COMPACT PARKING SPACES:
THIS REQUEST WILL BE ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA FOR FEBRUARY 18, 1992:
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JACK NIEMANN
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Dr. Nick Hallett
DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT
EX Dan Mabe, Finance ~ Administration
'~0. CE~l~y ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT
Bob Haley, Instruction & Personnel
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Jim Carberry, Secondary
Darlene Fulwood, Elementary
Doug Rutan, Special Services
JOINT SCHOOL DISTRICT N0.2
911MER1DIANSTREET MERIDIAN,IDAH083642 • PHONE(208)888-6701
February 10, 1992
To: Mayor & City Council
Attn: Jack Neimann
From: Chuck Liehe, Administrator of Operation
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Re: Meridian High School Parking
The Meridian School District plans to construct a new gymnasium
and locker room addition at Meridian High School. A condition
for issuing the building permit was to increase the number of
parking spaces at the school. The new facility displaces 28
spaces.
Before construction 738 parking spaces exist. The parking lay-
out was re-drawn on a site plan. By restriping we can do the
following:
SSO regular spaces
241 compact spaces
10 handicapped spaces
801 total spaces
60 more spaces will be available after construction than were
available before construction.
The new addition will have no classrooms and will not increase
the school's student capacity so additional parking will not be
required. No parking problems are experienced with the present
738 spaces so we feel that 801 spaces will be adequate. The
restriping will be done when weather permits.
I request that a building permit be released allowing the
district to proceed with construction.
Thank you for considering this request.
cc: Dan Mabe, Deputy Superintendent
Ewing Construction
ZGA Architects
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in access aisles to and from public rights-of-way. All parking areas with a
capacity over twelve (12) vehicles shall be striped with double lines six (6)
inches both sides of center between stalls to facilitate the movement into
and out of the parking stalls. (Ord. 430, 4-2-84)
6. Off-Street Parking Design and Dimensional Tables:
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A. Width of Parking Space 10' 9' 9' 9'
B. Length of Parking Space 15' 18' 19' 23'
C. Width of Driveway Aisle 13' 17' 25' 12'
(Ord. 430, 4-2-84; amd. Ord. 524, 4.3-90)
7. Petition For Compact Space: Upon petition, parking spaces may be
allowed to fulfill the above requirements which are classified as
compact car parking spaces, and which are so properly designated
and which have dimensions of seven and one-half feet, (7'/z') width
and fifteen foot (15) length. (Ord. 524, 4-3-90)
2-414 E SCHEDULE OF PARKING SPACE REQUIREMENTS
1. Computation of Parking Spaces: When the required number of off-
street parking spaces results in a fractional space, any fraction of
one-half ('/z) or less may be disregarded, while a fraction in excess
of one-half ('/z) shall be counted as one (1) parking space.
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PROGRESS REPORT -STATUS OF VARIOUS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS -
Wayne S. Forrcy
1. Meridian _HousnK_Inventorv -Fieldwork now complete. Technical report with findings, maps
and recommendations is being printed for the City Council and PBc.Z Commission. Request joint
work session to present findings and recommendations.
2 Wcst llih Street Blocked Irrigation Ditch - Mr. Dwane Hays of ACRD cleaned the portion of
line in Camella Lane. Only minor amounts of mud were found. He tamped the line and could
not sec any blockage in ROW. ACHD feels that the blockage has been caused by tree cools in
the back yards. ACHD recommends Roto Rooter to auger the line starting near Camella Lane.
3. Downtown Redevelopment -Phase Two
A. Initial land appraisal is completed. Review appraisal is still underway due to additional
evaluation of one of the properties.
B. ICDBG contract and related documents ready to submit to Dept. of Commerce.
C. Project walk-through now completed with Don Hubble, Matt Munger and Wayne Forrcy.
Preliminary design almost finished, ACHD meetings to review design arc being scheduled.
/1CFID Board will rcvicw project on Fcb. 27 at 7:U0 p.m. during regular cvcnir~g mccting.
D. Phase Two Ncwsline #1 will be distributed next week. Need Council input on
distribution area. (same parties or reduced distribution area ?)
4. S~tuth .Slo~~h. S[swcr_ Easements - Rcccnt meetings w/ property owners revealed an alignment
change. Forsgrcn is making changes. Property owner meeting this thursday to present .new
easc;meni agreements to affected property owners. Coordinate all easements with Wayne
Crookston.
5. East First Street -Final Payment Processing for LID Notification
A. Successful negotiations mec;ting this morning with contractor and ACIIU.
B. ACHD requested WSF to prepare final funding spreadsheet for ACI1D Board rcvicw.
C_ ACHD Board will rcvicw final E. lst St. costs at Fcb 27, 1992 mccting.
D_ ITD Board has requested final analysis of all change orders related to the roadway.
WSF will complctc and fax report to Mr_ LeRoy Meyer tomorrow morning. "I'clcconferencc;
with WSF, GDS and Mr. Meyer.
<~;. If Mr_ Meyer accepts final change order analysis, Ms. Mary Uctmar has agreed to place
the Meridian extra funding request on either the Thursday ur Friday 17'D Board mccting
agenda. (February ZUth or 21st)
6. Comautrol Grant Closeout -Forms OK, should be complctc by next Council. mccting.