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HomeMy WebLinkAboutApril 3, 2003Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting April 3, 2003 Page 32 of 61 Borup: Motion and second. All in favor? Any opposed? Thank you. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES Item 7. Public Hearing: CUP 03-005 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for a Planned Unit Development for Meadow Lake Village by Hummel Architects, P.A. -east of South Eagle Road on East Franklin Road Borup: The next item is Public Hearing C UP 03-005, request for a Conditional Use Permit for a Planned Unit Development by Meadow Lake Village by Hummel Architects. I'd like to open this hearing and start with the staff report. McKinnon: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission. Again, on the overhead I have outlined the area that we are talking about tonight, that we are really not talking about the entire area, we will basically be focusing our conversation tonight on the property just south of Franklin Road. This Conditional Use Permit is amending the original concept Development Plan, as you can see on the overhead right now. As you may remember -- as you may remember, this is a large senior retirement community that's being developed right now with a small golf course centrally located. When this originally came through there was a lot of residential uses bordering on Franklin Road, commercial properties coming in off of Franklin, off of several collector streets, for medical use, retail, and office types of uses. The applicant has since acquired an additional piece of land that makes it possible to go to this type of project now, where they can bring all of the commercial development out onto the Franklin frontage and connect the two access points together with a new public road that would be located running somewhat parallel to Franklin Road. We have asked in the staff report that road be a public road, rather than a private road, which would require, again, a Preliminary Plat and a Final Plat for the subdivision of that. That's the major reason this has been brought before you tonight, is just basically the shift of the residential to the south and the commercial to the north to be adjacent to the commercial street frontage. The second reason that this is brought in front of you is that the applicant has requested additional reduced setbacks. As you may know, those of you that were here when this project was approved, all of the houses and buildings within this subdivision are going to be owned by the developer. There are no lot lines within this development and so all the setbacks, as you will note in the staff report, are based between buildings, rather than for property line. Instead of measuring from property line, we would be looking at what one house is being constructed or the type of construction based on what's going next to it and that will determine what the setbacks are. This is a planned development. Staff does not have objections to the requested reductions of those setbacks. Finally, just one additional point of clarification for you. In the planned development ordinance it says that every time a phase of this project is approved, they have to come back with a detailed Conditional Use Permit. What is sometimes forgotten in that is that anytime they come back in with a phase that is exclusively residential, it does not have to come back in front of you as a Conditional Use Permit, it's only those uses that have non-residential use, so you won't be spending a great deal of time in the future with Conditional Use Permits for all the residential properties. The Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting April 3, 2003 Page 33 of 81 conceptual approval took care of that. With that I really have nothing more to add. This is a fairly straightforward application, again, to just make some changes that we as staff support and ask if you have any questions of staff at this time. Borup: Questions from the Commission? Centers: Mr. Chairman, just one. You know, right now it's conceptual. Is it going to be conceptual again in the future? Are we going to see it again or -- McKinnon: Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission, Commissioner Centers, you will see the detailed Conditional Use Permit for those commercial properties off of Franklin again. Centers: Okay. Borup: Does the applicant have anything they'd like to add? Swenson: Good evening, Mr. Chairman and Commissioners. My name is Joe Swenson and I'm the local person in charge of the T ouchmark, n ow called Meadow Lake Village Development. First, I'm wondering would you be amenable to having three presenters if we stay within a two or three minute limit each? I would -- if not, I will quickly dish off to the architect. Borup: Maybe just -- which areas -- are there any specific areas that any of the Commissioners would like to have addressed? Centers: I remember the project, so -- Borup: So, I think at this point we'd like to keep it short. Swenson: That's fine with me. I think rather than me spend anymore introductory remarks, since you have it in your memory, I'd like to just turn the time over to Jason Butler, who is with Hummel Architects and is doing the land planning and is our commercial architect, so -- if that's acceptable. Borup: Thank you Butler: Thank you, Joe. My name is Jason Butler I'm with Hummel Architects. Thank you for heaf9ng this concept re-submittal. It is a significant development, but it's a significant -- fairly insignificant shift we are asking for you to take a look at conceptually again tonight. We are looking primarily at the Franklin Road frontage just to the north side of the property to push some of the commercial -- mixed use commercial to that side of the property. This does a couple of things. It buffers back that residential retirement portion of the site back off of Franklin Road and this isn't your typical subdivision, it is an age-restricted retirement community. It also -- Boise City limits are directly -- immediately to the east of the site, it creates a very welcome entry into the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting April 3, 2003 Page 34 of 81 City of Meridian as you move from the east side and with that mixed use commercial fronting on Franklin Road and the entire development is very much a community within a community concept. It's first priority is to self-sustain the inhabitants of that community and provide them with the amenities and the services that a retirement community needs, such as a mixed use commercial portion, as well as supporting some of the hospital services that exist now and in the future. That is the -- simply the concept re-submittal that we are asking you to approve this evening. With that, we will turn it over to Dean Briggs of Briggs Engineering with a couple other items. Briggs: Good evening my name is Dean Briggs, Briggs Engineering. I have had the pleasure of being on this project through its conception and I have just one item to go over as it relates to the conditions. Originally, this concept was broken into a multitude of phases and as this project has progressed and as it's -- we have added a little more area to it. The plan has moved the commercial to the front there is just one item in the Development Agreement that we'd like to shift from Phase 2 to Phase 3. That's the construction of what was called Road H, it's the second connection to Franklin Road on the east side. We'd like to request that that Road H in that connection be allowed to be shifted to the third phase. As a second phase we will be concentrating on the west side of the property and not the east. In your packet there is the latest addenda to the phasing schedule and on Page 3 I have circled the numbers that this affects as far as phase two and underlined on items one and ten the specific items in that -- in those two items that we'd like to shift into the third phase. The front sheet is a --just that request and maybe some verbiage that you might want to look at. Centers: Have you given this to staff? Briggs: I have not. Centers: That's the important the man over there. Borup: So, this has not been discussed with staff prior to tonight? Briggs: I'm not sure. I didn't. McKinnon: Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission, I haven't had a chance to review it yet. The only comment that I would really make at this time is whether -- I'm not sure whether or not that would affect the fire department's typical request for two access roads into the subdivision once they get over a certain threshold, typically 50 houses. That's something that I'd like to just look into, if I could just have a moment to look at it. Briggs: There is -- at present there are two access points into the subdivision. Borup: Counting St. Luke's you mean? Briggs: Counting St. Luke's. Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting April 3, 2003 Page 35 of 81 Borup: A private road. Briggs: It's a private road. McKinnon: Have those roadways been constructed -- I'm sorry. Mr. Chairman, if I could address the applicant. Have those roadways been constructed? Briggs: Yes, they have. McKinnon: Okay. Centers: Well, they may be private, but it's not private when the Fire Department drives over it. Borup: Right. Right. Briggs: Yes. It's a joint use access road between Meadow Lake, Village and St. Luke's. Zaremba: And it's not access controlled. Briggs: No. Centers: I know when we first saw this -- and I will say it again, I think we are lucky -- lucky to have this in the City of Meridian and it's not a little further east in the City of Boise. Of course, there is no land further east. Houses, isn't it? Briggs: It's all houses. Centers: Yes so I -- b ut I feel we are lucky to have it here and it's -- but the other presenter said something about --instead of retired people or -- how did he put it? Rohm: Age limit. Centers: Yes. Age limit. I don't like that name for it either. Briggs: Age advantaged? Centers: That's better. Anyway, I like it. As long as you can keep staff happy. Briggs: We try. Borup: I was just -- on your phase -- on your phasing for that second phase, is there a time -- there is probably not a time line, it's going to be as development reaches that point and -- Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting April 3, 2003 Page 30 of 81 Briggs: Actually, i n t he D evelopment A greement t here are s ome t ime I fines for a ach phase. Phase 2 -- Borup: Well, Phase 3 begins summer of 2006. Briggs: Correct. One of the other reasons we are trying to delay that intersection a little bit is that there is another Franklin Road project coming that will fill the gap and we are hoping that they will get that online, so that we can kind of coordinate those two. Borup: That makes sense. Okay. McKinnon: Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission, if I could address the applicant. Could you -- in the -- on Page 3 -- Briggs: Yes. McKinnon: -- you have circled Item Number 7. This is just for clarification. I really don't have any problem with the requested change that you have. I was just wondering the landscaping along Franklin adjacent to Phase 2, I'm going through your addenda to the phase -- and, of course, we don't have that same road system that you guys are proposing now on your addenda. Phase 3 just -- I'm going to use my pointer I'm going to turn you around. Briggs: Okay. McKinnon: This phase is talking about phasing the landscaping from here east that you don't want to do on Franklin as part of phase -- Briggs: I think Phase 2 landscape was 200 feet either side of Franklin -- for Franklin Road interchange. It wasn't the whole frontage it was just that piece. McKinnon: So, you want to move the landscape improvements on. Franklin to Phase 3? Briggs: Right. Borup: Beginning in the summer of 2006? Briggs: Right, because Phase 3 is in that area. McKinnon: Okay. All the commercial projects within this would, also be part of that third phase, then? Briggs: If they can sell them. McKinnon: Okay. That's just a clarification. I don't have any problem, Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission, with that request. Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Maeting April 3, 2003 Page 37 of 81 Zaremba: I think the only issue I would have is probably semantics in that you requested that these requirements be deleted. Even though it says deleted in this phase, I would rather replace that with saying that these requirements be shifted to Phase 3. Briggs: That would be great. Zaremba: Deleted is too big a word forme. McKinnon: I agree. Zaremba: And if that's the point to shift them to Phase 3, I think I'd rather have it said that way. Briggs: Great. McKinnon: Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission, again, I have a question for the applicant. Would it possible for us to get a revised Phasing Plan before we go to Council with this project? Briggs: Yes, it is. McKinnon: Okay and, if so, we'd request that you submit that to the City Clerk's Office at least 10 days prior to the next hearing. Briggs: Okay. Sounds good. McKinnon: Thank you. Borup: Any other questions from the Commissioners? Centers: Just one last question. Have you had any pre-sales? Briggs: Of? Centers: Residences. Unidentified Speaker: We have had 17 reservations. Centers: Good. Excellent. Borup: Okay. Anybody else want to testify on this application? Seeing none, Commissioners? Dave, you'd like to see a phasing plan 10 days prior to the City Council? Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting April 3, 2003 Page 38 of 81 McKinnon: Yes. The phasing plan that was attached was off of the old plan. They need to submit a phase plan. Borup: Okay. McKinnon: In addition to that, the comments made by Commissioner Zaremba to shift that to the third phase, I support that as well. Borup: Right. Okay. Centers: I would move we close the Public Hearing. Zaremba: Second. Borup: Motion and second. All in favor? Any opposed? MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES Zaremba: Mr. Chairman? Borup: Commissioner Zaremba. Zaremba: I move that we forward to the City Council recommending approval of CUP 03-005, request for a Conditional Use Permit for a Planned Unit Development for Meadow Lake Village by Hummel Architects, PA, east of South Eagle Road on East Franklin Road. To include all staff comments, and to include the applicant's April 3, 2003, request for a modification to the Development Agreement, in that they wish to shift some items mentioned in their memo to Phase 3, instead of Phase 2. Centers: Second. Borup: Motion and second. Any discussion? Zaremba: And to supply the staff a new phasing plan 10 days prior to the Council hearing. Centers: Second. Borup: Okay. Motion and second. Any other discussion? All in favor? Any opposed? Thank you. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES Item 8. Public Hearing: CUP 03-004 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for a childcare facility in an R-4 zone for Building Bridges Child