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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutesMeridian Planning & Zon~ Commission November 12, 1997 Page 7 ITEM #7: PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUED FROM OCTOBER 14, 1997: REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A RETAIL SHOPPING ,CENTER BY TOM BEVAN - 2030 W. FAIRVfEW AVENUE: Johnson: As I stated the Applicant has requested that be deferred until December 9, however is anyone is here that came for this item and would like to testify tonight we will take that testimony. Anyone wish to address the Commission on this application? Seeing no one we will proceed. ITEM #8: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR CENTRAL VALLEY CORPORATE PARK N0. 6 SUBDIVISION BY RAFANELLI & NAHAS - MERIDIAN ROAD AND CENTRAL VALLEY DRIVE: Johnson: I will now open the public hearing and ask that the applicant or the applicant's representative address the Commission. Lonnie Fox, 8440 Midland Drive, Boise, was swum by the City Attorney. Fox: There is only one of the specific site requirements that we are concerned about. That deals with sewer manholes to be provided to keep the sewer lines on the south and west side of roadway centerlines. Because there is an existing sewer line and the new roadway would cause the distance traveled to be much greater than it is right now. We will have to provide and easement between two property lines so that minimum grades can be maintained in that sewer .line. We are willing to provide an easement, I think it is located on the preliminary plat, it shows between lots 12 and 13. The new roadway would make that distance traveled to be much longer around that eastern loop and we wouldn't be able to maintain minimum grades. In that area that would be on the east and north side of the Eight Mile Lateral which we would be in the right of way there would not be a problem. Our one concern is if we go with the roadway as is the standard the alignment for sewer we wouldn't be able to maintain minimum grades. Johnson: Gary Smith, do you have any comment regarding that, are you familiar with the difficulty as stated here by Mr. Fox? Eng. Smith: Mr. Smith, I guess I ~ need to ask Mr. Fox a question. Is this piece of sewer line you are talking about Lonnie on S. Progress Avenue is that where you are discussing, referring to the west side? Fox: Yes, did I say west, I meant east. Eng. Smith: It is on the east side now but you can't put that on the west side. ~ s MERIDIAN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION DECEMBER 9. 1997 The regular meeting of the Meridian Planning and Zoning, Commission was called to order by Chairman Jim Johnson at 7:00 P.M. , MEMBERS PRESENT: Keith Borup, Byron Smith, Mark Nelson: MEMBERS ABSENT: Malcolm MacCoy: OTHERS PRESENT: John Prior, Will Berg, Gary Smith, Dean Elhert, Joe & Leta Wood, Richard Brown, Terry Botler, John Wasson, Jim Rugeiero, Chuck Koedner, Joe Carleton, Doug Campbell, Steve Cullan, Doty Furhman, Bill Hull, Steve Bradbury: MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING HELD NOVEMBER 12, 1997: Johnson: Are there any corrections or deletions to these minutes? Entertain a motion for approval. Smith: Mr. Chairman, I would like to make a motion that we approve the minutes from the November 12th meeting. Borup: Second Johnson: We have a motion and a second to approve the minutes as written, all those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING HELD NOVEMBER 25, 1997: Johnson: Any corrections or deletions to those minutes of the 25th? We need a motion to approve these minutes. Nelson: Mr. Chairman I move we approve these minutes. Smith: Second Johnson: We have a motion and a second to approve the minutes for the meeting held November 25, 1997, all those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #1: PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUED FROM NOVEMBER 12, 1997: REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER BY TOM BEVAN - 2030 W. FAIRVIEW AVENUE: M Meridian City Planning & Zoning Commission December 9, 1997 Page 2 Johnson: 1 will open this public hearing, it is a continuation..Is The applicant or the applicants representative here and do they wish to address the Commission at this time? Well 1 spoke with Shari Stiles our Planning and Zoning Administrator there was some material that was submitted late and this is probably why they are not here. We didn't have an opportunity to review it and it didn't meet our deadline. When it did come it was somewhat inadequate and there were no utilities shown in the landscaping. This would probably be an item that we would want to consider tabling. Anyone else from the public that would like to address the Commission on this application? (Inaudible) Johnson: This would be an excellent time to do that we just wouldn't be able to answer any questions that we might not have knowledge of. We are doing item #1. I will close the public hearing at this time. I guess we want to continue the public hearing rather than close it. Smith: Mr. Chairman I would like to make a motion to continue the public hearing on this item to the next Planning and Zoning meeting to be held January 13, 1998. Borup: Second Johnson: A motion and a second to continue this hearing until our next regularly scheduled meeting January 13, 1998, all those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #2: PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUED FROM NOVEMBER 12, 1997: REQUEST FOR AN ACCESSORY USE PERMIT FOR A FAMILY HOME DAY CARE BY LETICIA PERALTA -LOT 12, BLOCK 3 BEDFORD PLACE SUBDIVISION: Johnson: We have a letter from the applicant withdrawing the application. But we need to formally close that, I believe you all have that letter addressed to Dean Elhert. Smith: Mr. Chairman I would like to make a motion that we accept this letter of withdrawal of this application. Nelson: Second Johnson: Motion and a second for item #2 to accept the letter by the applicant for withdrawal, all those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ' Meridian Planning & Zo~ Commission October 14, 1997 Page 36 Johnson: Anyone else? Any further discussion? If not I will close the public hearing at this time. MacCoy: Mr. Chairman, I move we have the City Attorney prepare findings of fact and conclusions of law for this project. Borup: Second Johnson: A motion and a second to have the City Attorney prepare findings of fact and conclusions of law, alt those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #9: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING OF 1.8 ACRES TO C-G BY TOM BEVAN - 2030 W. FAIRVIEW AVENUE: Johnson: I will open the public hearing at this time and ask the applicant to address the Commission. Tom Bevan, 4202 N. Marcfiff, Boise, was sworn by the City Attorney. Bevan: Thank you for the opportunity to address the Commission this evening. We have submitted the application and have reviewed the comments that came as conditoins of the application. We agree to all of the findings and all of the comments. Except we do have a little question on item 14, we weren't sure exactly how we could show compliance with that specific item. It said the orientation of the buildings would not appear to lend themselves to very desirable curb appeal, visibility for tenants wishing to locate here. We would look at anything that would come forward about how to change the design or anything like that. f don't exactly know how to show compliance with that except for to say that we are open to any suggestions. It is a small frontage on Fairview so we try to develop the square as a square so it is deeper and not so much on the front of Fairview. (Inaudible) As you can see our ideas are a little bit of a change from what Fairview is now. We don't have the huge stores that both sides of Fairview are tryng to develop both sides of Fairview. What we have is smaller retail outlets and we are not really going for large anchor tenants, the big national chains or anything. We are going for more of a regional, perhaps local type retail businesses. We have smaller retail in the front and a little bit larger retail in the back. Some of the suggestions were that from the fire department if we could sprinkle the buildings then we could eliminate the 20 foot fire easement around the outside of it. So I think we are going to try and do something like that. We just got the comments on Friday so being that Monday was a holiday we didn't get a chance to talk too specifically about some of the changes recommended but we didn't see any problems with any of them presented there in the documents. The elevations, as far as elevations go you can see it is (Inaudible) siding. The most similar is if you are familiar with Poise Town Square Mall the two Gap stores, Gap kids and regular Gap they have the drivet and we are trying to do a little bit of a fancier front. We Meridian Planning & Z~g Commission October 14, 1997 Page 37 are trying to do a bit of a more upscale retail area.. It is like a small square based after smaller retail shops. Similar to what the Gap is now, some are the same size, some are a little bit bigger. The outside appearance would look somewhat similar. Now these, this (inaudible) basically what we are trying to do is develop as a said a more of a smaller retail for smaller retailer so the (inaudible). Kind of breaks up the pattern I guess you could say on Fairview. The monument sign is what we prefer on the outside on Fairview instead of a pole sign and then we would have signs on the building itself. Johnson: Okay, Tom is that it? Questions from the Commission? Borup: You said that item 14 was the only one you had question on in staff comments? Bevan: Yes, everything else we agree with 100%. Borup: (Inaudible) I was just curious on the comment, it was not staff comment, but the address needed to be changed. I believe that was the fire department. Bevan: If it needs to be changed (inaudible) Borup: I do have a question (End of Tape) Borup: Do you coordinate that with Econo Lube? Bevan: Not yet, we want to do a cross access but we could do it deeper in the lot to break up that as Mr. Smith was saying earlier he didn't want a strip all the way down. We would actually prefer the cross access to be deeper in the lot. So as their stores are deeper they could come right over into our little square there. Borup: The way they have it right now is (inaudible) lined up with theirs where it comes in the middle of your first building, Bevan: We could move that we could do some adjusting. What we are trying to do right now is work on the annexation and zoning. Borup: I am kind of jumping ahead here Bevan: Then we could answer those concerns Borup: I think you have done a lot of what we have talked about trying to do is orient the buildings closer to the front. Bevan: We can ever bri~~g them closer to the building them closer to thc: building then they are. Meridian Planning & Z~g Commission • October 14, 1997 Page 38 Borup: Well, all you have is a driveway between them and the berm now. Bevan: Yes Borup: I think you have addressed it, that is why I was curious if there had been any discussion with the others on the cross access (inaudible) Bevan: No sir not yet, but we would do that. Johnson: Anyone else? MacCoy: What about your building construction? Bevan: It would be stick frame with a drivet exterior, stucco type. MacCoy: Your roof is going to be flat? Bevan: It would be sloped and then the water would be into our drainage system MacCoy: What about colors? Bevan: The colors would be like a gray similar to the Gap store that is there now that is by the Boise Town Square. They have like a gray drivet. We tried to depict it there, that might not be the best way to do that. We can get you samples of the drivet itself (inaudible). MacCoy: I wanted to, plus the fact that you did one of the best jobs yet I have seen on your handicaps. You put your comers and your bigger areas where we need them for the handicap and you used them the right way. And you put them next to (inaudible) so I give you credit for that. Did you say what you are going to have for retail? Bevan: Well we are negotiating with some local retailers but we haven't signed anybody yet. We are trying to do is to stay away from the big names. More of a square, if you are familiar with the European type of square it is more ma and pa type businesses, not ma and pa but smaller businesses. Not to say that there might not be a bigger business like a video store or something come in. But we are not actively going out looking for franchise type businesses. Obviously we have to fill up the development but if we can find local or regional businesses that would be interested in participating in that is what we like. We are trying to change it up a little bit. MacCoy: You did say that you read the staff comments. and you had no problem with them. Meridian Planning & Zor~ Commission ~ . October 14, 1997 Page 39 Bevan: No problem except item 14, I am not sure, I don't really understand it so I don't know how we can comply with it. I don't know if they didn't like. the way it looked from the street or something. But we are open to anything they suggest. We want to have a nice looking development... MacCoy: I suggest you come back in here to staff people and (inaudible). I am sure they had something in mind. Bevan: That is what I was thinking. I just got the documents Friday so I haven't, with the holiday on Monday I didn't get a chance to talk to staff to find out what they meant. We would comply with everything here with the understanding if they understood 14 better we would sure comply with it. I don't know exactly what they are looking for. Borup: I would think what they are saying, a lot of the staff comments were things that specifically need to be complied with and the other things are just comment, more of a personal comment of theirs. Not necessarily a specific requirement because they didn't anything specific. Bevan: That is what I thought, it wasn't specific so I don't know how to comply with it. But we comply with everything we can. Borup: I think they were wanting to put forth their opinion on that. Bevan: And we appreciate that and we would be open to anything they would recommend specifically. MacCoy:. I think the best approach is to come in here and see if they do have anything in mind that you can get that cleaned up. The lighting on your property, do you have pole lighting or what? Bevan: Yes, they have a lighting plan, they asked us to coordinate with the Meridian Public Works Department on the lighting plan. That is what we will do we will go with their requirement. We want to have a well lit parking lot obviously and we would go with the recommendationstyhatever they (inaudible) MacCoy: What I was coming to was the fact that the lighting is a real concern. We wanted it non-glare and didn't create a problem with neighbors and other drivers and so on. So we didn't actually (inaudible) already there. WE want you to be sensitive to that. Bevan: We sure will, we want to have a quality development, we don't want to have glare, something that is real glary anyway, so a softer light. MacCoy: That is all I have Meridian Planning & Zor~ Commission October 14, 1997 Page 40 Smith: Mr. Chairman, I think my comments are more geared to design issues and site planning things more so than annexation and zoning. But we seem to be clumping these together so maybe I will go forward. Johnson: I think that is a good idea because normally we would incorporate all of this testimony into item 10 as well. Srnith: Was the drive location dictated by ACHD, I don't recall any comments? Bevan: No it wasn't specifically dictated by them. Smith: I have some issues with the site plan as presented. Borup: ACRD did say they wanted the driveway to align with Dixie Drive. Bevan: Yes they did do that. Smith: The whole site is predominately going to be asphalt. The whole site is predominantly going to be asphalt on this site and way more than it needs to be. I think it is just kind of how the site was perceived to be laid out. Part of the problem I see here is on the west side and east side of the site what we have indicated there are trash collectors and inevitably that is going to look like the back side of the building. It is just - - - -going-to be -unattractive. What-was submitted in-the-application- was just a photo of a building which is quite a bid difference for an elevations. I think it is, I can understand your difficulty in being able to respond to item #14. Design is a subjective issue and what would be a good design to me may not be good design to you and vice versa. I think again it is really hard for anybody to say what it is going to took like from the street because we don't have any elevations that tell us what it is going to look like from any side of the development. But even though a couple of these buildings were gull forward on the site I think the perception from Fairview Avenue as you look at the site is still going to be one of parking because there is so much asphalt on the site. What you are going to see is a couple of buildings here floating in a sea of asphalt. The European square approach and that is, I can see a quad kind of concept starting here but it is all filled up with a parking lot. You are going to have to cross the parking lot to get from one building to the next. Almost seems like to me that it might be better to pulls some retail space up to the front with these two 1200 and 1500 square foot buildings and maybe put them together. One of the things and this is just my education and my background is you are really limiting yourself to the tenants you will be able to bring into these buildings and if they ever expand or have a need for more square footage they are really going to be pretty limited if they are in one of these three smaller buildings. You really give yourself more flexibility and you tenants and what you can do if your tenants expand and get smaller: You have a building more designed into a bay approach like the larger building here. But these things are some of them are pretty small and it is ;~cind of disjointed in its planning. Meridian Planning & Zo~g Commission October 14, 1997 Page 41 Bevan: Well Smith: As far as the straight shot through the site that would be as easy as flipping the two rear buildings over and making you have to zig zag through the site to solve the cutting through problem. I think some of the site planning issue problems go even farther than that. There is just too much asphalt on the site. There is too much dedication to the automobile here. Do you have an architect that you have hired to help you design this? Bevan: Yes, Dean Briggs is the engineer Smith: No, his is not an architect he is an engineer. He has no design training and doing this kind of design work. He is an engineer and he engineers. He doesn't do building design and site design other than subdivisions and things like that. I don't know how you can develop a project of this size without having an architect or somebody who is trained to do this kind of design work. No disrespect to Dean Briggs, but he is just not, his training just isn't in this kind of design projects. Bevan: Well first of all by the comments we are required to have an architect and we will have an architect to design the specific buildings. As far as the asphalt, even in comment #10 they are saying we don't have enough parking. Smith: How many parking spaces do you have? Bevan: What they require is every 200 square feet they want 1 parking space and we are a little bit shy of that. But what (inaudible) We are going to redesign it to get some more parking here by pushing this back But they are telling us that we don't have enough parking. Borup: I think you read that wrong, they are saying the parking you have exceeds the minimum requirement just based on square footage. Bevan: (Inaudible) , Borup: I see what you are saying, they are saying some of the sizes don't meet (inaudible) the 25 or the 9 by 19 may not. Bevan; As I say we can, we had plan on redoing some of it anyway based on some of the comments. We only had the comments for one day so we do have to go back and redesign a little bit. What we -are trying to do is give you the concept of what we are trying to do and ask for the annexation and zoning approval. We can come back when we do these comments when we comply with these comments I think you will see it shape up a little better than what it is right now. Meridian Planning & Zo~ Commission ~ i October 14, 1997 Page 42 Smith: My opinion is you need an architect not just to design the building for you, you need him to do some site planning for you and study how the best way to lay this site out is and address some of these aesthetic issues not just from the buildings themselves but how the site is laid out. Get some more landscaping on the site as opposed to so much aspFialt. Design and orient the buildings in such a way that we don't have the sides of the buildings or the east and west elevations which are visible from Fairview looking like the back sides of buildings. I have seen numerous developments laid out on this design approach and I can't in good conscience sit here and tell you that I think it is a good design approach because I don't. I think there is some, I think concepts of having different buildings and breaking up the massing of the sites of things are valid and I think you can still achieve that. But I think there is some basic layout in planning some things that need to be looked at and addressed. Bevan: I agree with you, as I said as we do the comply with the comments here I am sure that it will take a little better shape in the face of the actual building permit we can address some of those. Like I said we are just trying to do the annexation and zoning change now. We are requesting that be approved and we can move based on these conditions being met and then we can certainly answer some of those concerns. Smith: I don't have any more questions or comments at this time. Johnson: Anyone else? Thank you Tom, this is a public hearing, anyone that would like to address the Commission on this application? Any comments from staff? At this time I will close the public hearing. The public hearing we are addressing at this point is annexation and zoning only. Borup: Mr. Chairman, I move that we have the City Attomey prepare findings of fact and conclusions of law on this application. MacCoy: Second Johnson: We have a motion and a second to have the City Attorney prepare findings of fact and conclusions of law, all those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #10: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER BY TOM BEVAN - 2030 W. FAIRVIEW AVENUE: Johnson: I will now open the public hearing and ask Mr. Bevan to address the Commission and be sworn once again. Tom Bevan, 4202 N. Marcliff, Boise; was sworn by the City Attorney Meridian Planning & Zo~g Commission January 13, 1998 Page 4 Johnson: That is the key phrase if someone deems it appropriate in practice conditional use permits continue until there is a squeaky wheel. If that is your thinking you can be the squeaky wheel you can review it in a year. But by its very nature in definition it is conditional and it is conditional for a period of one year. Smith: Well that answers my question Mr. Chairman, I would like to make a motion that the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby adopts and approves these findings of fact and conclusions of law. Borup: Second Johnson: Moved and second to approve the findings of fact and conclusions of law as prepared, roll call vote. ROLL CALL VOTE: Borup -Yea, Smith -Yea, Nelson -Absent, MacCoy -Absent, Johnson -Yea MOTION CARRIED: All Yea Johnson: Is there a recommendation you wish to pass onto the City Council? Smith: Mr. Chairman, the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby- recor~i~ert~~ to the-City Council of the City of Meridian that they approve the conditional use permit requested by the applicant for the property described in the application with the conditions set forth in the findings of fact and conclusions of law and any others required by the City Council. Borup: Second Johnson: Moved and second to pass the recommendation onto the City Council as read by Commissioner Smith, all those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #3: PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUED FROM DECEMBER 9, 1997: REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER BY TOM BEVAN - 2030 W. FAIRVIEW AVENUE: Johnson: Has any new material come in on this stafF? We do have it, I don't have it in my packet. Is the applicant available? Is the applicant or the applicant's representative here this evening? Does the Commission have any questions they would like to ask of the applicant? Smith: Yes Meridian Planning & Zc~g Commission January 13, 1998 Page 5 Johnson: In that case I would recommend that we table this item. Borup: Mr. Chairman, is that correct there has not been any. communication between this applicant and staff in the past month? Stiles: The applicant did submit some new site plans, none of you have that? Smith: I have a site plan dated the 5"' of December, 1997. Stiles: That would be the new information they have submitted. Smith: And the elevations which were the 4~' of December. Borup: I have the same thing too, that was before last months meeting. Stiles: There wasn't sufficient time between the time they submitted it and the time the meeting was for you to be able to review it. That is why we went ahead and continued the public hearing last time. Borup: I think we continued it because the applicant wasn't here. Johnson: Is there anyone in the audience that is here for this item that would like to address the Commission? If not then I think we should look toward tabling this to a date certain. Smith: Mr. Chairman, I would like to make a motion to table this item to our February 10 meeting. Borup: Second Johnson: It has been moved and seconded that we table item #3 until our next scheduled meeting on 2-10-98 and that staff contact the applicant to find out if they want to proceed further with this. Borup: This is the second month it has been tabled. Smith: Mr. Chairman, I would like to amend my motion to include the last comment you made which was to have staff contact the applicant so that we can find out if he is serious about this to move forward or not. Borup: Second Johnson: It has been moved and seconded to table this item one more item until February 10, 1998 with staff contacting Mr. Bevan or the applicant's representative to determine if they want to proceed or not, all those in favor? Opposed? Meridian Planning & Zc~g Commission ~_ January 13, 1998 -- Page 6 MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #4: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A PLUMBER'S UNION FACILITY BY PLUMBER'S & PIPEFITTERS LOCAL 296 -LOT 5, BLOCK 2 RAILSIDE PARK SUBDIVISION: Johnson: I will now open this public hearing and invite the applicant or the applicant's representative to address the Commission at this time. Mike Capshaw, BRS Architects, was sworn by the City Attorney. Capshaw: Initially when this project was ensued we had assumed that this project met the light industrial nature of this subdivision. However staff informed us that while they agreed that it did meet the intent there was no specific allowance for a union use. So that is why we are here before you tonight. Probably the most close use to us would be contractors yard. We will be demonstrating at this facility pipefitting and plumbing techniques as well as a union office and union activities. Again there will be obviously welding and what have you there so it really does not fit in with. an office type use it is more of an industrial use. If you have any questions? Johnson: Any questions from the Commissioners? Smith: I have just a couple quick ones. The style wall panel and the shadow wall panel those are a specific pre-manufactured building manufactured wall panel? Capshaw: -Yes they are, they are a Butler panel. Smith: I am not familiar with the style wall and the shadow wall. Capshaw: The shadow wall has a texture to it and the style wall is more of a plain panel so we have dressed up the front there with some split face block and a texture panel. Smith: Do you have a color scheme proposed for this? Capshaw. We do and that was in the submittal, staff should have a big color chart that we put out. Smith: I haven't seen it, do you mind letting me know what it is just off the top of your head. Capshaw. We have a light blue or a blue accent color at the roof line everything else is pretty much an off white. Meridian Planning & Wing Commission • February 10, 1998 Page 7 MOTION CARRIED: All yea. Johnson: Is there a decision recommendation you wish to pass on to the City of Meridian? ' Smith: Mr. Chairman, the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby recommends to the City Council of the City of Meridian that it deny the Conditional Use Permit requested by the applicant for the property described in the application however should the application be approved the applicant shall satisfy the conditions set forth in the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law or similar conditions as found justified and appropriate by the City Council and that the property be required to meet the water and sewer requirements, the fire and life safety codes, uniform fire code, parking requirements, and the paving and landscaping requirements and all ordinances of the City of Meridian. The Conditional Use should be subject to review upon notice to the applicant by the City. Nelson: Second. Johnson: We have a motion and a second to pass recommendation on to the City Council stated by Commissioner Smith. All in favor'? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All aye ITEM #2: CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER BY TOM BEVAN - 2030 W. FAIRVIEW AVENUE: Johnson: This is a continued public hearing, so the public hearing is opened. If the applicant here would like to address the Commission at this time, state your name please. Bevan: Tom Bevan. Johnson: I can't recall Tom whether you were sworn last time or not but we need to do that if you weren't. Prior. Sir would you just state your name and spell your last name for the record. Bevan: Tom Bevan, 4202 North Marcliffe, Boise. Prior: Would you raise your hand. Do you promise, swear or affirm that the testimony you give will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission February 10, 1998 • Page 8 Bevan: Yes. Prior: Proceed sir. Bevan: Thank you. Good evening Commissioners, I would like to request that this part of the hearing be continued until next month. We have almost all of our items finished but we didn't get them to you in time so I'm sure we can do it at the next meeting if that vuould be agreeable to you. Johnson: Okay thank you. Any questions of Mr. Bevan? Borup: Yes Mr. Chairman. I was just curious on what additional items that you're still working on. On a new site layout, or on the building designs or - Bevan: Yes. We changed the design once and then we were talking with a cross agreement with our neighbor the Econo Lube and the auto parts store and as we talked to them we came to the conclusion that working with them I think we can open up the area a little more and maybe get rid of some of the stuff in between us so it flows a little better.. So we're a little late in getting an agreement with them which we now have, well conceptually anyway, nothing in writing, but then their design people and our design people kind of got together and we redesigned it. So that's what we're working on now. Borup: Okay that makes sense, thank you. Johnson: Anyone else? Smith: Just a comment. Mr. Bevan I'd just like to commend you on working with your neighbors and coming up with a better design solution, I think that's commendable. Bevan: Thank you Commissioner. Johnson: Okay this is a public hearing, is there anyone else that would like to address the Commission on this application? Seeing no one then I'll entertain a motion for corrtinuing this public hearing to a date certain, our next meeting would be March 10"'. Borup: Mr. Chairman, I move that we continue this public hearing to our next regular meeting on March 10"'. Nelson: Second. Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission February 10, 1998 ~ • Page 9 Johnson: We have a motion and a second to continue the hearing by Mr. Tom Bevan until our next scheduled meeting of March .10, 1998. All in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All aye. Johnson: Do you have a question Mr. Bevan? Bevan: No. Johnson: Okay, alright thank you ITEM #3: FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR REQUEST FOR A REZONE OF .36 ACRES FROM R-4 TO L-0 BY KEITH & CATHY THURGOOD - 236 W. CHERRY .LANE: Johnson: You have the Findings of Facts before you, is there any further discussion, any corrections or deletions? Nelson: I have none. Smith: Mr. Chairman, page three item seven. It's a little confusing how it was written. I'm just going to read it: Commissioner Smith noted the Thurgood's plan on residing in a portion of the building on a temporary basis. Commissioner Smith wanted to know how long they anticipate residing in the building, Mr. Thurgood noted within a year to a year and a half. I don't know if that means they plan on leaving within a year to a year and a half but it's not written that way. Johnson: I think they were talking about using it as a residence, is the way I remember that~conversation. Isn't that the way you remember it? .~ Smith: That's the way I remember it, just the way the last sentence is worded it should probably be rev~rorded to say something like "Mr. Thurgood noted that they would be moving within a year to a year and a half' and I would like the Findings changed to reflect that. Borup: I'll second that. Johnson: Do we have a motion for approval with those changes or are we through with our discussion? Smith: Mr. Chairman the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission of the City of Meridian hereby adopts and approves these Findings of Fact and Conclusions as corrected. Meridian Planning and ~ng Commission March 10, 1998 Page 2 do. We've been doing -playing this game for some time. It would be my suggestion in light of not having additional information from the powers to be which in this case happens to be ACRD that we continue this public hearing to our next regular scheduled meeting, which is April 14"'. Any comments, discussion? Borup: Sounds appropriate, so I move that we continue this public hearing. until our next scheduled meeting of April 14th. Maccoy: Second it. Johnson: We have a motion and second. Any further discussion to defer this until our next meeting in April? No further discussion then, all in favor of the motion. Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All aye. ITEM N0. 2: REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A CHEVRON C- STORE, MCDONALD'S WITH DRIVE UP WINDOW AND IDAHO POWER COMPANY CREDIT UNION WITH DRIVE UP BANKING BY EAGLE PARTNERS: Johnson: Same thing for item two. Do we agree on that? Smith: I agree. Johnson: Another motion please for the record. Nelson: Mr. Chairman, I would like to make a motion that we continue this public hearing until our next regularly schedules meeting on April 14th. Smith: Second. Johnson: Motion and second to also continue item two, the conditional use permit request until April the 14th. All in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All aye. Johnson: Is there any questions from anybody in the audience? ITEM NO. 3: REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER - 2030 W. FAIRVIEW AVENUE BY TOM BEVAN: Johnson: At this time I will continue the public hearing and ask Mr. Bevan or his representative address the commission. Are we going through the swearing process? Prior: I believe we are. Meridian Planning and Z~g Commission March 10, 1998 Page 3 Johnson: We are. Mr. Prior you have the floor. TOM BEVAN 4202 N. MARCLIFFE WAS SWORN BY THE CITY ATTORNEY. Johnson: Mr. Bevan, would you adjust the microphone so that we can pick that up on tape. Thank you. Bevan: Is that better? Johnson: Are you just going to stand there, or do you want us to ask you questions? Bevan: Well, I think you have all the documents now that we needed to comply with the rezone. Johnson: is the easel available so the public can see that as well. I mean is there something -just stick it in front of the overhead there if you can some place where we can all look at it: Bevan: What we've done is redesigned it to fit better on the lot and to give us more open exposure from Fairview. So that the site line goes into the lot. The parcel on the left is the proposed Schucks and Econo Lube Subdivisions. And we have across -use agreement with them. We are in the process of doing it. We have a copy of the agreement here. They haven't signed it yet, but they indicated that they would. That would allow for cross use - Johnson: Okay, you are away from the mike, so what you are pointing to the -give me a direction on that. Bevan: It would be west. Pointed to the west. And their development is just right to the west of us. Wilson Lane comes from the south there, and that's right here. I'll show you. (Inaudible -off the microphone) Johnson: So Mr. Bevan is pointing to the southerly portion of the application saying this is where Wilson Lane is, right? Bevan: Yes, exactly. Johnson: Our poor transcriber goes nuts if she hears mumbling on the tape, so we got to stick with the microphone. Bevan: Okay, I'll try, and so our original design was four buildings. We've come down to two buildings, with one up front and then one in the back of the lot like that, as depicted there. The landscape is as shown there end tl`~e parking. I believe we - at least the architect told me that we have complied with all the things that were mentioned Meridian Planning and ~ng Commission March 10, 1998 Page 4 in the list, so we are hoping that you find that also. We also have some colors. This is for the siding and for the fascia of the roof. The blue one - Johnson: Those are just colors, right? They are not material? Bevan: No, just colors. Borup: Those are the colors for what? Bevan: These are the colors for - do you have the elevations there? Okay, this is the siding. This is the color of the siding. And this is for the roofing. Johnson: It looks to me like a blue. Bevan: This is silver. Of course, it will be textured, so it looks a little different than that. Any questions? Johnson: Yeah, I'm sure we have some questions. Questions from the Commissioners? Maccoy: I like to start off here. On your drawing that we have here, parking you had four compact and I think your c's on here must mean your compact, and you have six of those on your drawing here, so there should be a little con'ection involved here, if that's what your meaning is. Bevan: Excuse me. Oh, I see what you mean, the compact, yes. Maccoy: Is that right? The "c" stands for compact. Bevan: Yes. Maccoy: Okay, there's six c's on your drawing, so change that. I got a question to you about on the building one, since you gave us elevations on the north side, it appears because of the handicapped parking down on the south side, is there entrance to your building? Is that your - Bevan: Yes, that's the entrance, yes. Maccoy: On Fairview you are showing the back of your building to the Fairview side then. Bevan: Yes, that's correct. There's a berm there. Maccoy: Okay, I just wanted to clarify that in my mind. Okay, I'll pass. Meridian Planning and ~ng Commission • March 10, 1998 Page 5 Borup: I don't really have any specific question. The blue was on trim you said. That was not the roofing material; is that correct, Tom? Bevan: Yes, the trim and the roofing. Borup: Fascia and around the window frames and that kind of stuff. Bevan: Yes. Borup: It looks like you got a good open plan worked out now, and it looks like you've also planned for future access to property on the east; is that - Bevan: That's correct. Borup: At least the parking lot is laid out that way. Bevan: That's correct. ff there's - Borup: It looks good to be able to tie in to future. I think the redesign also gave you more square footage in your buildings too. Bevan: It did in fact. Borup: I have no other questions Smith: Just getting back to this compact space thing. It looks like a couple of these you could encroach a little bit into the landscape areas you have, the problems in the width of the spaces. I don't know. I can't tell because there's no dimensions on any of this stuff, so I don't know what the dimensional restraints that you have to work with are there. The four that are in the center, I don't know what you can really do with those, because I don't know how wide your driveways are all the way around there. But maybe -the compact spaces just don't work, and there's a growing movement to not even recognize those as parking spaces any more, but an alternative that may work for you is take that center block of parking and turn it ninety degrees, omit that isle way. that goes north and south on the site to the east right in front of the building two. You can still probably get the same number of spaces in there, but make those four compact spaces regular spaces. Bevan: Okay. Put the block where? Smith: Just turn it ninety degrees. Move it so the first two spaces are adjacent to the sidewalk that runs north and south in front of building two. Bevan: Oh, okay, that's a good idea, yea. Meridian Planning and Zt~g Commission March 10, 1998 Page 6 Smith: Then the one that's adjacent to building one. I think you just encroach in the landscape area there, and probably with just a little adjustment, you can do the same with the one at the back of the site. We didn't get any elevations for. the east elevation and south elevation of building two. Are those going to be similar in appearance? In other words, you'll have a glass on those sides as well similar to what the other elevations are indicating? Bevan: Yes, they'd be similar elevations. I don't know if there'd be quite as much glass, but there will be -the elevation will be similar. Are you speaking of the east side of building one? Smith: Well, we didn't get that one, but also the east elevation of building two and the south elevation of building two. Bevan: Well, most of the glass will be in the front. There will be some in the back, but it won't be as prevalent as in the front. Smith: Just typically you see this kind of building built where you just got a service access from the back side and it's in deed the back side of the building. You have the alleyway so to speak which is kind of what you've got created there, and it concerns me that that east side of the property is kind of where everything is more or less been backed up to. I don't know that I can really address that here, but -- Bevan: Well, the south side is going to be retail space, so that's going to be similar to the north side of the building. This side here will be less windowed, and more of a back Smith: What's the reason why you have the paving connecting that side? The two parking areas on that side? Bevan: On this side? Smith: On the east side. Yeah, right there, the parking -the asphalt that goes along the east side of building two, north and south. Bevan: Yes. What's the reason for this? Well, we have access there. They are telling me that we needed that access. Smith: Who is they? Johnson: I was going to hold you in reserve. Do you have to comment right now? Stiles: I just wanted to say #hat t~~e fire department required that 20 foot driveway there. Bevan: Yeah. That's what they told our - Meridian Planning and Z~g Commission March 10, 1998 Page 7 Smith: That's a requirement so they can drive their trucks. And they can't reach that side of the building with their hoses from the north or south side? How long is that building? Bevan: One hundred and fifty four feet. Smith: Oh, I'm sorry. It is on there. It seems to me that the fire department could access all sides of this building without that alleyway having to be paved. Bevan: I don't know, that's what they said was required, so that's what we did. Smith: That seems like a - I don't see why that should be required, personally. And where is your trash enclosure going to go? Bevan: The - I don't know if they made it. Smith: I didn't see it on here. It should be identified on there for the city council. Bevan: Okay, we'll do that. Smith: And then the landscaping seemed to be pretty vague as far as what you are going to do landscaping. I think you should indicate on the site, especially along Fairview what you are going to do in terms of landscaping, trees and - Bevan: Well, those have the three trees here and two trees here. Smith: That's not on my plan, though. Bevan: Oh, I'm sorry. Smith: I think that's just colored on yours. Bevan: Yeah, I didn't realize he didn't do it on all of them. Smith: I'm assuming these eight spaces that are on the -actually there's eleven spaces that border the west property line, those are all going to be access from the Econo Lube site? Bevan: Yes, these here. There's a driveway here and a driveway here. Smith: But your spaces that you have indicated that border the access - Bevan: Yes, because their parking lot will back up to ours here. Meridian Planning and ~ng Commission March 10, 1998 Page 8 Smith: Okay. You scared me with the silver paint color you submitted. I don't think I really want to see a silver building there, and - Bevan: Well, it's a drivit, more of a natural color. Smith: No, I'm familiar with drivit. But I'm not really familiar with silver drivit. Bevan: Well, it's -you know if you look by the mall, the Gap has a silver drivit. You know where the Gap is across the street from the mall? That's the color. Smith: That's what you intend is really silver. Okay, I didn't know if that was a mistake or - Bevan: No. We probably should have had it on drivit. I grant you that, because personally I think that's not that great of color myself. But when it's in drivit, and it's the Gap building color. That's the color silver. Yeah; it's silver. Smith: Okay. More gray? Bevan: Well, it's - I guess you color it silver or gray. That's what that's suppose to be. Smith: The only other question or comment that I had was regarding what you were going to do with signage on the building, and what you are going to do with signage for the development itself. I didn't see anything indicated on the site plan. Bevan: Yeah, it would be a monument sign would be out here. I know it's not listed here. I don't know why I didn't put it there. Smith: And what's your intention? Are you just going to call it Chelsea Square on the sign with a street number or are you going to list each tenant on the sign. Bevan: Well, we hadn't planned to list each tenant. We were just going to use it as one sign for the development. Smith: And would you be open to some type of pylon -when you say monument sign, you mean not a pole mounted sign. Bevan: No, it's on the ground. Smith: Okay, sorry. It's been a long day. And were you planning on any signage on the buildings to identify the tenants? Bevan: Yes, a smaller sign above the door of the tenants. Meridian Planning and Z~g Commission March 10, 1998 Page 9 Smith: I think it would be beneficial for the City Council to see an example of what you are intending for your signage on the building. Bevan: Okay, we can sure do that. Smith: So we can look at that and offer our input on that. Bevan: Okay. Smith: Other than that, I'd like to just compliment you again on - I think this is a much better submittal than what you originally came in with, and I think you took some of the suggestions and comments we had seriously and I think, it makes for a much better presentation, and eliminates a lot of questions that we have to ask you. Thank you for that. Bevan: Well, thank you, I appreciate that. Smith: That's all I had. Nelson: I have nothing. Maccoy: Let me go back one moment here. I am a little behind the eight ball at this day and point. This is my first - Johnson: I have interject your name so -our new typist doesn't know your voice yet, so this is Mr. Maccoy. Maccoy: The drawings that we have here do not show any lighting of the property or for parking or even if you got a lighting wash on your building or how you plan to illuminate this place. Bevan: Well, they - I thought they would have the lighting here too. We'It add that to the other suggestions, and we will show the lighting. Maccoy: We'll need to know that. Bevan: Yeah, we'll certainly do that. Johnson: Are we through? Shari Stiles, you had some comments or questions and I appreciate your input. Stiles: Chairman Johnson, commissioners, I received this last week, and I just had the opportunity to review it today. I would like to see some addit;onal Things on the site plan. The trash enclosures as was mentioned, the Wilson Lane improvements that are required as part of this annexation and conditional use permit. The ADA access aisle Meridian Planning and Z~~_,ng Commission March 10, 1998 Page 10 that's required is eight feet for a van accessible space. I would like to see the trees shown on the plan. There's 32 trees required with the paved area. And I'm not sure how that is going to b® accomplished. I would like to see details on ,the signage, and unless Ada County Highway District has a typo on their technical report, they were requiring 54 feet from the section line. This is showing 50 feet from the center line, and that would make a significant difference in this because the requirement is for an additional 25 feet beyond the required right-of-way line. They need to show sidewalk on Fairview. That needs to be constructed. There is no cross access to the adjacent lot at Econo Lube, their plat. Their final plat has been approved. Their building permit has been submitted, and there is a continuous seven foot landscape strip along the entire perimeter of this, so there is no cross access. to this development. So these - I think they would be willing to entertain maybe a point of access, but the double stacking with contiguous access there would not be approved. I would also like to see the lighting as was suggest, and the existing and proposed utilities as part of this plan. I appreciate the new profiles. I think it's come a long way from the first elevations we received. But I still think there is a lot work to comply with the ordinance and to present a submittal that is complete. Johnson: Thank you Shari. Smith: Mr. Chairman, I have a question. Ms. Stiles are you saying that there's 50 feet shown from the center line of Fairview Avenue right now back to where the landscaping seems to be indicated there? Stiles: Yes. Smith: That's 50 feet? Stiles: From center tine. Smith: And the section line is how far south of the center line? Stiles: It's about ten feet. Smith: And then we require -ACRD is asking for 54 feet south of that as far as right-of way? Stiles: That could be a typo. I know that they've had some problems with the section line and center line along Fairview, but I would like verification from them that they mean, they actually do mean from the section line and not the center line. Smith: Okay, and that includes their area for sidewalk and - Stiles: Yes. • CJ The regular meeting of the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Chairman Jim Johnson at 7:00 p.m. MEMBERS PRESENT: Jim Johnson, Mark Nelson, Byron Smith, Malcolm MacCoy, Keith Borup. OTHERS PRESENT: John Prior, Shari Stiles, Bruce Freckleton, Will Berg. MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING HELD MARCH 10, 1998: Johnson: Any additions, corrections or deletions to these minutes? Nelson, Smith, MacCoy, Borup: None. Johnson: Motion for approval please. Nelson: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to motion approval of the March 10th minutes as transcribed. MacCoy: Second. Johnson: Motion is seconded for the minutes as written. All in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All aye. ITEM #1: CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGCENTER CHE SEA SQUAREN Y USE PERMIT FOR A RETAIL SHOPPING ~ TOM BEVAN -2030 W. FAIRVIEW: Johnson: At this time we'll ask Mr. Bevan or his representative to come forward and address the Commission. McKeegan: My name is Patrick McKeegan. I'm an architect representing Mr. Bevan and his development group this evening in this matter. Do I need to be sworn in? Prior. Yes you do and would you state your address for the record please. McKeegan: 218 South Cole Road, Boise, Idaho. Prior: Do ycu promise, swear or affirm that the testimony you give at this public heari ~g will be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth? McKeegan: I do. IAN PLANNIN• ZONING • MERID APRIL 14, 1998 PAGE 2 Prior: Proceed. McKeegan: I wasn't present at the last hearing, it was my understanding that the Commission had quite a few questions and concerns about the plot plan. We addressed all of those concerns, including the Highway District's comments, revised the site plan considerably so that all of the required parking is maintained on the site without requiring access to any of the adjacent pieces of property, we've met with Shari Stiles and Skip Voss the Fire Marshall to review the plan that you have before you and they have given their blessing to the site configuration. To my left, your right is a color rendering of the plan that you have. The larger trees that are showing on that are existing trees that we're going to make an attempt to save during construction. The smaller trees are indicated in the darker green color and they meet the City's requirements for one three-inch caliper tree for every 1500 square feet of parking area. The building site, the total building area is still the same, approximately 20,000 square feet, it's broken into two buildings however we have relocated the building in front building A so that it is back in line with building B. The reason for doing this was to get the required parking on the site without having access to using the property to the west for access. In between the two buildings we've provided a courtyard and there's going to be a clock tower that's showing in the elevations. The only variance if you will that we're requesting is that along the west property line we have I believe there's eight parking spaces that we're requesting that those be compact spaces in depth only, they are going to be the full nine feet wide and we're not requesting the minimum depth. The reason we're doing that is we're maintaining afive-foot landscaped strip along that parking along the west property line next to Econo Lube. Econo Lube will have a seven feet wide landscape strip on the other side and we feel that having the compact spaces in that location will not be a detriment because the cars will actually be able to pull up to the curb and overhang into the landscaping a little bit because of the site width we in that one area had to reduce the length I believe to eighteen feet instead of the required nineteen feet or maybe it's seventeen six. We've shown the trash enclosure relocated behind the building. We've shown the required City street lights at the entrances, we've provided some additional lighting in the parking areas and then we anticipate that as shown on the exterior elevations we're going to have some light sconces that will also provide lighting at the pedestrian walkways and other areas. We've provided, depending on the tenants for glazing building A on the north east and west sides as well as the south side opening onto the court and that will kind of depend on how the tenants evolve. Building B will primarily be glazed on the north side facing the courtyard and the west and the north side on the parking, we're anticipating those are probably going to be a retail type use that the backside of the building which would be the south and the east walls would be used far deliveries and access and we've provided sidewalks and doors in those locations. As far as the architectural design of the building, what you saw previously was more of a residential looking IAN PLANNING AND ZONING • MERID APRIL 14, 1998 PAGE 3 building and discussing with the clients we felt that a commercial type building would be more appropriate and we wanted to use some different materials or different colors and textures of materials than you normally see in this commercial type of structure. We're going with a gray (inaudible) material which is a synthetic stucco but there's some newer materials out that actually have stone in them so they simulate stone like materials rather than just the typical monolithic colored materials and we're going to be going with that and as you can tell the color Xerox's don't do justice to what we're going to be trying to do, for some reason the gray's and the green's always get a little goofy when you use the Xerox process but we're going with a light gray building with kind of a dark gray band and then we're going to have kind two different colors of green accents to accentuate the fascia band. The clock tower is going to have a functional clock in it with a painted metal frame to act as kind of an accent and a focal point for the center of the development. At this time I'd just like to request that" you approve our project as submitted, we've made a -we've met all the requirements that were requested of us, I might also add that we've indicated the extension of the utilities down Wilson Lane from the west where they pickup at the Econo Lube property. I would also like to note at this time Econo Lube is constructing those utilities and expect to have those done either this week or at the end of next week so when we start our project we'll be able to pick those up and continue forward. At this time I would just open it up for any questions you might have and once again if you have any questions of the owner he is also present. Johnson: Okay thank you very much. Questions from the Commissioners? MacCoy: I'll start it off. Looking at your layouts and (inaudible) you submitted this last month your site lighting I only see three standards in your beginning one at Wilson and one in the middle of a property. Is that indication or is that the total three you're going to have? McKeegan: The two at the driveways are the required ones, the streetlights tike I indicated, we have another one showing in the parking area and then we are going to have lighting on the building on approximate sixteen-foot centers and that's going to be a high light sconce on the fascia which will light in front of the buildings. At the point that we've approved for this we're going to hire an electrical engineer who will then do a study of the site and do the calculations to determine if we need more lightings and obviously we're not going to leave people out in the dark we want people to be able to see the buildings at night, we want people to be able to come to this building and feel safe and we're going to provided whatever lighting is prudent under the circumstances. It's not our intention to skimp on the lighting it's not in our best interests to have people out there tripping and putting themselves in danger. Your comment's well taken. MacCoy: Insurance is very costly. So you've taken care of my second question that's the building face lighting because I was going to ask about did you have MERIDIAN PLANNIN~ AND ZONING APRII. 14, 1998 PAGE 4 planned but didn't show small standard lighting next to the parking or some place like that but you've answered that question. McKeegan: The large kind of triangular elements are sconce type lighting. MacCoy: You show one trash area for building A and B, is that going to be as in one location behind B? McKeegan: That's correct and there's a sidewalk that connects down the east sides of buildings A and B and again that will depend on the tenants. If we get a tenant that's trash intensive then we'll expand that to accommodate those. If it turns out to be more office users than retail users then they generate very little trash but if you have something like a retail type use that is selling things that have lots of big boxes and things like that then we'll have to adjust and again it's not our intention to have the trash piled out behind the building in a pile, if it turns out we need more area or a second dumpster then we'll accommodate that. MacCoy: So the marker on-your plot plan there to show where trash -that would just be an expanded section, it would not be another trash section some place else then. McKeegan: We hadn't planned one at this time, we Rresumed that it would be best in the back part of the building where it was accessible from what we are assuming is going to be the back side rather than having a second one out front and having people hauling trash through the building. Normally on these types of uses the trash and the deliveries are done through the back and so they don't interfere with the clients. MacCoy: Okay I just was wondering if you -and you've answered my question. On your handicapped parking spaces is that shaded area a ramped area? McKeegan: It would be the drop zone and then it would -there would either be a - it would be a flat drop zone and then what we normally do is lower the sidewalk and so the people go up to the sidewalk and then it feathers up rather than having the ramp going out into the parking area. MacCoy: Okay because you didn't show, at least the drawings we have doesn't show the extra lines which would indicate you have cut down your curbing and your signage on this building you just indicated a sign, what do you have planned? McKeegan: For the individual tenants we're presuming that each tenant will have it's own graphics and we've indicated a panel above an area where the door would be. Again, we don't have any specific tenants signed up for the building in mind, if we have one tenant per building then we would probably center it and - • Planning and Zoning Commission May 12, 1998 Page 3 Johnson: You could condition the approval of the Findings of Fact with the comment regarding signage and a general statement about conditions and flexibility if you didn't want to be so specific in your comment. Smith: I guess I just would like to know how the other commission members feel before Johnson: Mr. Borup, how do you feel about it? Borup: I don't have a lot of concern with this applicant. Mr. Bevan has been very accommodating on changes. Johnson: But specifically on the signage, do you have a problem with that? Borup: No, I don't. I think he's already stated what his intentions are, and I think he's going to do a first class project. Johnson: Mr. MacCoy? MacCoy: I had the question to him at the beginning on signage, and asked the question about what kind of signs he was going to have and we got into a discussion on the fact that we would like to see not a great big sign. We would like to see a monument sign, and we had a little discussion at that time what that meant. Just as a side order, we have for your clarification Mr. Smith, we are doing a re-work on the sign ordinance anyway right now. I read your comment, heard your comment, and I felt that was a little restrictive, but I passed at the time. So I don't have any problems with what you had to say. Johnson: Mr. Nelson, any comment at all? Nelson: I don't have any comment. Johnson: Any further discussion. If not, I'll entertain a motion please. MacCoy: Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby adopts and approves these Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law. Borup: Second. Johnson: We have a motion and a second to approve the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law as prepared. ~ ~ Planning and Zoning Commission May 12, 1998 Page 4 ROLL CALL VOTE: Borup, yea. MacCoy, yea. Smith, yea. Nelson, yea. MOTION CARRIED: All yea. Johnson: Is there a decision of recommendation you wish to pass on to City Council? MacCoy: Mr. Chairman, the decision of recommendation of the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby recommends to the City Council, the City of Meridian that it grant the conditional use permit requested by the applicant for the property described in the application. The application be approved, the applicant shall satisfy the conditions set forth in the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law or similar conditions as found justified and appropriate by the City Council, and the property be required to meet the water and sewer requirements, the fire and life safety codes, uniform fire code, parking requirements, and the paving and landscaping requirements and all ordinances of the City of Meridian. The conditional use shall be subject to review upon notice to the applicant by the City. Smith: Second. Johnson: I have a motion and second to pass the decision of recommendation on as read by Commissioner MacCoy. All in favor? MOTION CARRIED: All ayes. Prior: Chairman, if I may for just a moment. In regards to items number 7 and 8, I did make a -just in regards to my memo, you mentioned that you would say something about the memo that I submitted. I'd like to remind you. Johnson: Yes, I didn't want to put you to all the trouble of writing that and then not giving you recognition. Prior: It was rather time consuming. Johnson: I'll read what this memo says if I can find it. This is with respect to Eagle Partners project, items 7 & 8. This is a request for the Planning and Zoning Commission to defer a recommendation on the Eagle Partners project. This is a letter from John Prior, City Attorney to Planning and Zoning Commissioners. The reason for the deferment request is that the ACRD Commission has not sent a decision to the City of Meridian on the road through the proposed Eagle Partners project. I believe that it would be premature for the commission to make a recommendation to City Council without a commitment from the ACRD commission on the proposed road. It has come to my attention that the ACHD commission will discuss the matter at their May 20tH MERIDIAN PLANNIN~AND ZONING • APRIL 14, 1998 PAGE 4 planned but didn't show small standard lighting next to the parking or some place like that but you've answered that question. McKeegan: The large kind of triangular elements are sconce type lighting. MacCoy: You show one trash area for building A and B, is that going to be as in one location behind B? McKeegan: That's correct and there's a sidewalk that connects down the east sides of buildings A and B and again that will depend on the tenants. If we get a tenant that's trash intensive then we'll expand that to accommodate those. If it turns out to be more office users than retail users then they generate very little trash but if you have something like a retail type use that is selling things that have lots of big boxes and things like that then we'll have to adjust and again it's not our intention to have the trash piled out behind the building in a pile, if it turns out we need more area or a second dumpster then we'll accommodate that. MacCoy: So the marker on your plot plan there to show where trash -that would just be an expanded section, it would not be another trash section some place else then. McKeegan: We hadn't planned one at this time, we presumed that it would be best in the back part of the building where it was accessible from what we are assuming is going to be the back side rather than having a second one out front and having people hauling trash through the building. Normally on these types of uses the trash and the deliveries are done through the back and so they don't interfere with the clients. MacCoy: Okay I just was wondering if you -and you've answered my question. On your handicapped parking spaces is that shaded area a ramped area? McKeegan: It would be the drop zone and then it would -there would either be a - it would be a flat drop zone and then what we normally do is lower the sidewalk and so the people go up to the sidewalk and then it feathers up rather than having the ramp going out into the parking area. MacCoy: Okay because you didn't show, at least the drawings we have doesn't show the extra lines which would indicate you have cut down your curbing and your signage on this building you just indicated a sign, what do you have planned? McKeegan: For the individual tenants we're presuming that each tenant will have it's own graphics and we've indicated a panel above an area where the door would be. Again, we don't have any specific tenants signed up for the building in mind, if we have one tenant per building then we would probably center it and - AND ZONING ~ • MERIDIAN PLANNIN APRIL 14, 1998 PAGE 5 MacCoy: -- But you've got a criteria for your sign size and then - McKeegan: It would be in accordance with the zoning ordinance. We've shown I believe the panel is approximately four-feet high by twelve to sixteen-feet wide and that could be either individu flat the north dr veway atFairv ew AveWe've also shown a monument sign ou seventy-two square feet which would identify the center itself. MacCoy: I'm just looking for uniformity in the whole complex there. McKeegan: I'm sure that we would put together ten a throul hout the th ng would be some uniformity and there would be a consis y 9 Johnson: Mr. Borup? Borup: I think all of my questions have been answered. Johnson: Mr. Smith? Smith: t assume the -you said the qu the're was atbuest on onI whethe thereawas worked out with ACRD but last month q a conflict on the center line or section line. McKeegan: It was from the center line of street sand itd'sdtsoe ~s~a~meoc~ fte~nty-fiveey imposed on the Econo Lube project next door th foot setback is from the new property line at the front of the site it's not from the existing. Smith: Getting back to the signage, maybe expand a little bit on what your client envisions for the tenants of the building more of a professional office type use or amore retail or just however the market demands - McKeegan: We're basically at this point we're just - we have two very capable people out there sending out proposals, some of those are to office users some of those are to retail type users and it's really we've set the complex up to where it could be either/or. If it's an office type use you probably won't have a lot of signage unless it was some kind of like a national client like a Edward Jones or something. Smith: That's kind of what I'm heading towards h so much bad s gnage onus me as it's proposed and it's probably more of seeing Fairview Avenue and I would just like to encourage you to really take a hard look at some type of graphics on the glass of the building in the windows something that is not so jump out at you, jump off the side of the building a little more low MERIDIAN PLA,NNIl~'AND ZONING APRIL 14, 1998 PAGE 6 key, a little more professional clean looking and I'd also hope that you could submit some ideas for your monument sign to the City Council when you submit to them too. That's something that I'm really concerned about here on these types of developments. Then you've got siding called out, looks like you've got you've got split faced (inaudible) siding and then (inaudible) type product on the outside, what type of siding are you envisioning? McKeegan: Probably just a wide lap residential type or the type you see on commercial buildings and we're putting that on the east and the south side on the areas where the -we're going to have afour-foot coat of masonry so that when the hand trucks and the carts and stuff are being hauled down there the building will not get torn up and then just for purposes of economy we're putting the siding on that, it'll be a probably a gray tone to match the EIFS or the drive it system the stucco system we're going to be using it's just really an attempt to -you know if we got tenants that wanted glass down that side of the building then we would probably be glazing that. What we're concerned about is we don't know what's going to be developed on that piece of property, we don't know if it's going to be another warehouse that's going to back up to our building, we don't know if it's going to be a parking lot but just for. - to make the building more economical to build and maintain we're going to put up a product that is permanently colored so we aren't going to be painting it all the time but because it is more the utilitarian side of the building -for the first I think it's been about a week since I did the renderings but I think for the first twenty or twenty-four feet on building A we have shown the glass coming back and I can't remember if I showed the Drivot fascia for the whole on all four sides of the building so that the siding is just going to be down and also because of the trees and the landscaping that will tend to soften that also. Smith: Okay and then -this really -you can't really make a comment about the color other than - McKeegan: It's one of those things you're either going to really like it or you aren't going to like it, it's very color -color's very subjective. Smith: No it has nothing to do with - I can't tell really what it's going to be. Then the last thing I wanted to ask about was the -- approximately 1/3 of your parking is at the rear of the building but really all your -the way it's designed is all your access to your buildings going to be from the west and the north side of building B. McKeegan: Yes that's correct we anticipated the parking on the south side would be primarily for employees and overflow. MERIDIAN PLANNI~ AND ZONING APRII. 14, 1998 PAGE 7 Smith: There's no real pedestrian link between that parking lot and the front of the building, you'd have to go in -unless you go around the east side, I suppose you could do that. McKeegan: Yes you are correct. Smith: That's all I had. Johnson: Mr. Nelson? Nelson: I have no questions. Johnson: Anyone else? Any comments from staff at this time? Okay thank you very much. This is a public hearing is anyone here to testify on this application? Seeing no one then I'll close public hearing at this time. This is an application for a conditional use permit and would require Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law. Smith: Mr. Chairman I would like to make a motion that we direct the City Attorney to prepare Findings of Fact on this application. Nelson: Second: Johnson: We have a motion and two seconds to have the City Attorney prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law on item #1 on our agenda. All in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All aye. ITEM #2: FINDINGS OF FACTS AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A ONE STATION HAIR SALON BY STEPHEN & KAYE PADORIS - NW'/4 SE'/4 SECTION 12, T.3N., R.1W: Johnson: You have the Findings of Facts and Conclusions as prepared by our City Attorney are there any questions, any discussion any deletions, corrections or additions that you'd tike to make to these? Borup: Under last page -next to the last page -last page of the Findings number ten item "I" and I'm assuming that this is probably inconsistent with City ordinance but a question I had was whether it was really necessary to have a licensed engineer design a drainage plan for the parking .area. The area is already paved, it's existing paved driveway, they're looking at limited use for a one statifln o~,eration. I don't know if that's anything we have an option of doing anything about or not but that was the question I had. Maybe the attorney would like to answer that. Planning and Zoning Commission May 12, 1998 Page 2 ITEM NO. 3: CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING OF 36.71 ACRES TO R-4 FOR WILKINS RANCH AT THE LAKES SUBDIVISION BY STEINER DEVELOPMENT LLC EAST OF BLACK CAT/USTICK INTERSECTION AND SOUTH OF USTICK ROAD. Johnson: Is there anyone here who would like to testify on this public hearing? I'll reopen the hearing at this time. Is there anyone here that's interested in items 3, 4 or 5 that would like to testify? Seeing no one and hearing no one, then I'll close this public hearing. Oh, I'm sorry, we're continuing that. My fault. So we need a motion really to continue this if that's what we want to do until our next meeting. MacCoy: Mr. Chairman, I make a motion that we first table this to June 9th, our next meeting. Items 3, 4 and 5 for the Wilkins Ranch Property. Smith: Second. Johnson: I have a motion and a second to table items 3, 4 and 5 until our regular meeting on June 9, 1998. All in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All ayes. ITEM N0.6: FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW: REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER (CHELSEA SQUARE) BY TOM BEVAN - 2030 W. FAIRVIEW. Johnson: Any changes, additions, deletions to the Findings of Fact as prepared by our City Attorney? Any comments? Smith: I do have a comment, and it regarded my comment that I made on signage and started thinking about it here over the past month, and basically what I'd asked is that the signage be put on the glass of the buildings, and it was really a stupid comment. I can't believe I said it. I think my concern on the signage on this project just has to do that we don't get into some large unattractive signage and I don't know how my fellow commissioners feel about this, and I don't want to drag this thing out, but I don't want to limit them to putting signage on the glass because again I think that was a stupid idea, but if there's some way that we can have some kind of a review process on this project for signage on the building or establish some kind of criteria as far as height, raised letters, or something along those lines. Probably something that would give the applicant the most flexibility and have an opportunity to be creative would be to not restrict them to a particular type of signage, but to ask them maybe to submit it for review whether it's for the City Council or Planning and Zoning. I don't know. Planning and Zoning Commission May 12, 1998 Page 3 Johnson: You could condition the approval of the Findings of Fact with the comment regarding signage and a general statement about conditions and flexibility if you didn't want to be so specific in your comment. Smith: I guess I just would like to know how the other commission members feel before Johnson: Mr. Borup, how do you feel about it? Borup: I don't have a lot of concern with this applicant. Mr. Bevan has been very accommodating on changes. Johnson: But specifically on the signage, do you have a problem with that? Borup: No, I don't. I think he's already stated what his intentions are, and I think he's going to do a first class project. Johnson: Mr. MacCoy? MacCoy: I had the question to him at the beginning on signage, and asked the question about what kind of signs he was going to have and we got into a discussion on the fact that we would like to see not a great big sign. We would like to see a monument sign, and we had a little discussion at that time what that meant. Just as a side order, we have for your clarification Mr. Smith, we are doing a re-work on the sign ordinance anyway right now. I read your comment, heard your comment, and I felt that was a little restrictive, but I passed at the time. So I don't have any problems with what you had to say. Johnson: Mr. Nelson, any comment at all? Nelson: I don't have any comment. Johnson: Any further discussion. If not, I'll entertain a motion please. MacCoy: Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby adopts and approves these Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law. Borup: Second. Johnson: We have a motion and a second to approve the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law as prepared. ~ ~ Planning and Zoning Commission May 12, 1998 Page 4 ROLL CALL VOTE: Borup, yea. MacCoy, yea. Smith, yea. Nelson, yea. MOTION CARRIED: All yea. Johnson: Is there a decision of recommendation you wish to pass on to City Council? MacCoy: Mr. Chairman, the decision of recommendation of the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby recommends to the City Council, the City of Meridian that it grant the conditional use permit requested by the applicant for the property described in the application. The application be approved, the applicant shall satisfy the conditions set forth in the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law or similar conditions as found justified and appropriate by the City Council, and the property be required to meet the water and sewer requirements, the fire and life safety codes, uniform fire code, parking requirements, and the paving and landscaping requirements and all ordinances of the City of Meridian. The conditional use shall be subject to review upon notice to the applicant by the City. Smith: Second. Johnson: I have a motion and second to pass the decision of recommendation on as read by Commissioner MacCoy. All in favor? MOTION CARRIED: All ayes. Prior: Chairman, if I may for just a moment. In regards to items number 7 and 8, I did make a -just in regards to my memo, you mentioned that you would say something about the memo that I submitted. I'd like to remind you. Johnson: Yes, I didn't want to put you to all the trouble of writing that and then not giving you recognition. Prior: It was rather time consuming. Johnson: I'll read what this memo says if I can find it. This is with respect to Eagle Partners project, items 7 & 8. This is a request for the Planning and Zoning Commission to defer a recommendation on the Eagle Partners project. This is a letter from John Prior, City Attorney to Planning and Zoning Commissioners. The reason for the deferment request is that the ACHD Commission has not sent a decision to the City of Meridian on the road through the proposed Eagle Partners project. I believe that it would be premature for the commission to make a recommendation to City Council without a commitment from the ACRD commission on the proposed road. It has come to my attention that the ACHD commission will discuss the matter at their May 20tH • Meridian City Council June 2, 1998 Page ~~ Bevan: I think my architect did. He did pick them up? Oh, I'm sorry, then it's my error. No, I haven't seen them. I thought he would have got in touch with me. So I guess this is our error that I didn't get it. Corrie: Any other questions? Rountree: None. Bird: I have none. Bevan: Thank you. I guess I should have time to look it before. Rountree: You might want to. Bevan: Yes. So I would like to table it for one more month or one more meeting. Corrie: We can continue the public hearing. Bevan: Very good, thank you. Corrie: Is there anyone else from the public that would like to issue testimony at this time with the understanding that we will probably continue the public hearing on June 16th? Okay, hearing none, I'll keep the public hearing open and the Council can make a decision. Rountree: Mr. Mayor, I move that we continue the hearing on this application until June 16th at such time as the applicant has an opportunity to review the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law. Anderson: Second. Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Rountree and second by Mr. Anderson to continue the public hearing until June the 16th in order to the applicant to read the annexation and zoning Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law. Any discussion? All those in favor of the motion, say aye. MOTION CARRIED: All ayes. ITEM NO. 9: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER (CHELSEA SQUARE) BY TOM BEVAN - 3020 W. FAIRVIEW: • Meridian City Council June 2, 1998 Page ~$ Corrie: At this time I will open the public hearing and invite you back up and this one is about as thick as that one is. I don't know whether you have seen this or not. Bevan: I haven't seen that one either. TOM BEVAN WAS SWORN BY THE CITY ATTORNEY. Bevan: I guess I better take a look at that too. Rountree: Good decision. Bevan: Okay, thank you. Corrie: Is there anyone else from the public who would like to issue testimony on this one? Or you can wait until June the 16"' if you'd like. Okay, hearing none, Council? Bentley: I would move to continue the public hearing for conditional use permit by Tom Bevan until the 16t" of June. Rountree: Second. Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Bentley, second by Mr. Rountree to table June the 16tH meeting. Any discussion? Hearing none all those in favor of the motion say aye. MOTION CARRIED: All ayes. ITEM NO. 10: REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A HOME DAYCARE BY WENDELL & KATHLEEN LAWRENCE - 889 N. FILLMORE WAY: Corrie: I'll open the public hearing at this time and invite Mrs. Lawrence. KATHLEEN LAWRENCE WAS SWORN BY THE CITY ATTORNEY. Lawrence: It says down here home daycare, but we are requesting a permit for 13 plus children. I had called Daunt Whitman since January when I first turned in our application for a conditional use permit, and I'm sorry I didn't have this for planning and zoning. I think it would have helped our case, and did you guys receive this letter from Daunt Whitman on the occupancy load? I'm sorry I turned it in last week. I'll give you the one that I have to look at. He has determined our maximum occupant load for 19, and that includes my husband, myself, so that the greatest number of children that we could have would be 17, and we are licensed for 12 now, so we are asking for five more. There was some question about the lock at the planning and zoning meeting. • MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL MEETING JUNE 16 1998 The regular meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 7:30 p.m. on June 16, 1998 by Council President Charlie Rountree. MEMBERS PRESENT: Ron Anderson, Keith Bird, Glenn Bentley, Charlie Rountree. OTHERS PRESENT: John Prior, Gary Smith, Bill Musser, Brad Hawkins-Clark, Wayne Crookston, Kenny Bowers, Tom Kuntz. MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING HELD JUNE 2, 1998: Rountree: Is there any discussion, corrections, comments? Bird: I make a motion that we approve the minutes from the June 2"d meeting. Anderson: Second. Rountree: It's moved by Councilman Bird seconded by Councilman Anderson to approve the minutes of the meeting held June 2, 1998. All those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All aye. ITEM #1: CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING OF 1.8 ACRES TO C-G BY TOM BEVAN - 3020 W. FAIRVIEW AVENUE: Rountree: Anyone - I have someone that would like to speak to that. For Council, this item and item #2 were continued last meeting because Mr. Bevan wanted to have an opportunity to read the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law. Prior: Ma'am, would you state your name and address, spell your last name for the record please. Todd: My name is Cheryl Todd, my address is 1010 N. 20th Boise, ID. 83702. CHERYL TODD WAS SWORN BY THE CITY ATTORNEY. Todd: Good evening City Councilmen, my name is Cheryl Todd and I'll be representing Mr. Bevan while he's out of town. Mr. Bevan has reviewed the changes that you suggested and he would like to request that upon his acceptance of the recommendations that you've changed that the City Council MERIDIAN CITY C~NCIL JUNE 16, 1998 PAGE 2 would go ahead and approve the annexation and zoning for the 1.8 acres located at 2030 Fairview. Rountree: Okay, thank you. Any questions? Bentley: I have none. Bird: I have none. Rountree: This is a continuation of the public hearing, is there anyone in the audience that wishes to speak to this item? Seeing none, is there any discussion Council? Bird: I have none. Bentley: I have none. Rountree: I'll close the hearing. What's your desire in terms of a motion for annexation? Bentley: I have one quick question for Gary. Gary, has everything been answered and taken care of to your satisfaction? Smith: Yes. Bentley: Okay, thank you. Bird: Mr. President, the public hearing is closed, right? Rountree: Yes. Bird: I move that the Meridian City Council hereby adopts and approves these Findings of Fact and Conclusions. Bentley: Second. Rountree: It's been moved by Mr. Bird and seconded by Mr. Bentley to approve the Findings of Fact and Conclusions. ROLL CALL VOTE: Mr. Bird -yea, Mr. Bentley -yea, Mr. Anderson -yea. MOTION CARRIED: All yea. Rountree: Is there a recommendation? MERIDIAN CITY ~1NCIL • JUNE 16, 1998 PAGE 3 Bird: Mr. President, I move the Meridian City Council grant the conditional use permit requested by the applicant for the property described in the application, however should the application be approved the applicant shall satisfy the conditions set forth in the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law or similar conditions as found justified and appropriate by the City Council and that the property be required to meet the water and sewer requirements, the fire and life safety codes, uniform fire code, parking requirements, the paving and landscaping requirements and all ordinances of the City of Meridian. Conditional use should be subject to review upon notice to the applicant by the City. Bentley: Second. Rountree: It was moved by Mr. Bird and seconded by Mr. Bentley to the recommendation as read. All those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All aye. ITEM #2: CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER (CHELSEA SQUARE BY TOM BEVAN - 2030 W. FAIRVIEW: Rountree: We'll continue this public hearing, you need to be sworn - Prior: Once again we need to have you state your name for the record. Todd: My name is Cheryl Todd, I'm located at 1010 N. 20th Boise, ID. 83702 CHERYL TODD WAS SWORN BY THE CITY ATTORNEY. Todd: Again for item #2, Mr. Bevan is requesting that the conditional use permit for a retail shopping center would be approved by the City Councilmen. Are there any questions? Bentley: I have none. Bird: I have none. Rountree: Again, this is a continuation of a public hearing, anyone in the audience wish to testify? Any discussion? I'll close the public hearing. Any questions from staff? Bentley: Yes. Gary, is everything in order for the CUP on this? Smith: I believe that they have complied or they are agreeing to all of the staff conditions so I don't have any other comments to make. MERIDIAN CITY ~NCIL JUNE 16, 1998 v PAGE 4 Bentley: Thank you. Rountree: Any further questions? Bentley: I have none. Bird: I have none. Rountree: I need a motion for action on the conditional use permit. Bentley: Mr. President, I would move that the City of Meridian hereby adopts and approves the Findings and Facts as presented to us for this CUP by Planning and Zoning. Bird: Second. Rountree: It was moved by Mr. Bentley, seconded by Mr. Bird to approve the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for the conditional use permit. ROLL CALL VOTE: Mr. Anderson -yea, Mr. Bentley -yea, Mr. Bird -yea. Rountree: Is there a recommendation? Bentley: Mr. President, the City of Meridian hereby grants a conditional use permit requested by the applicant for the property described in the application however the application should be approved, the applicant shall satisfy the conditions set forth in these Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law or similar conditions as found justified appropriate by the City Council and that the property be required to meet the water and sewer requirements, the fire and life safety codes, uniform fire code, parking requirements and the paving and landscaping requirements and all ordinances of the City of Meridian. The conditional use should be subject to review upon notice to the applicant by the City. Bird: Second. Rountree: It's moved by Councilman Bentley, seconded by Councilman Bird to approve the conditional use permit with conditions as stated. All those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All aye. ITEM #3: REVISED FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW: REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A HOME DAYCARE: WENDELL & KATHLEEN LAWRENCE - 889 N. FILLMORE WAY: