HomeMy WebLinkAboutJanuary 22, 2008 C/C MinutesMeridian City Council
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De Weerd: Okay. I have a motion and a second to vacate Item 13. All those in favor
say aye. All ayes. Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES..
Item 14: Public Hearing: AZ 07-013 Request for Annexation and Zoning of 4.
92 acres from Ada County RUT to an R-4 zone for Matador Subdivision
by Equity Development - 1235 East McMillan Road:' ~,,
Item 15: Public Hearing: PP 07-017 Request for Preliminary Plat approval for 16
single-family residential lots and 3 com~mo~n I~ots,on 4. 92 acres in a
proposed R-4 zone for Matador Subdivision by Equity Development -
1235 East McMillan Road.: .,~-_~~~~ ~`'' ~ ~ ~'~`-~~~
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De Weerd: Okay. Item 14 and 15 are public~~hearings'fion ,AZ 07-013 'and; PP 07-017.
I will open these two public hearings with staff cor~n~ments~~~~,y_,,,~ ~,
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council;,,,~this the Matador project. It s
located at 1235 McMillan Road.. The''applications beforey,,~u tonight are an annexation
and preliminary plat. The applicant~~has`~ap~plied for anneXatio~n and zoning of 5. 18
acres to R-4 zonin and relimina lat~~a'~'I'''i"oval,of 16 singl'e,;~family residential building
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lots and three common lots on 4. 92~,~acresi~~, ~ ~~he~i proposed gross density for the
subdivision is 3. 25 dwelling units per aerse,;~with a net;tdensity of 4. 02 dwelling units
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per acre. And the lotz{sizes~~~ra~nge from 8,0,77 square Meet to 14,454 square feet. You
will note that it says;, old plat~li~~new plat, and III get to that in a moment. The
Commission's rec'ornm'endationi~~~was based '~on.~~old plat. There are a couple DA
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requirements proposed'~and t~~at's~th~at the developer shall construct homes on the site
that are In substantial cornpl~ance-with th~ey~elevations and the applicant shall construct
homes oni,the'site.=~that, contain~,the following design features: Gable roof lines facing
~~'`~ shutte s; ~'siabstantialTicolors with substantial bases and front faca es,
the stryeet, ~s~~i(i}~~~ , , ~,l . ~„~,~
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accented!{with brick/stdm~e4i~and co~e~red porch areas. Building materials should be o
quality mater#a1s, including~~,~but not limited to wood siding, hardy plank siding., and/or
stucco, incorporating varying siding materials. Wide plank. Narrow plank. Board and
batten. Cedar{t'Shin les. ~{'IPainted in earth tone colors. We have some elevations of
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those. The Comm~issiontrecommended approval at their November 15th, 2007, Public
Hearing. Sabrina~lW.hitehead, the applicant's representative, spoke in favor. No one
spoke in opposition~~~ror commented or provided written testimony. Key issues of
discussion by the Commission were the zoning approved for neighboring residential
projects and that was largely -- there is one project -- and these two existing lots and
that was R-4 with a little R-8 closed to Locust Grove. And, then, there was another one
approved over these two lots and that was R-4. Nothing immediately adjoining this
property. There were no key commission changes to staffs initial recommendation.
There are some outstanding issues for Council. During the hearing staff presented to
the Commission a recommendation to reduce the lot widths of the buildable Lots 2 and
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3 of Block 3, which are these two lots and expand the nonbuildable lot, Lot 1, Block 3,
this one in hatched, to increase the amount of open space and to accommodate a picnic
area or tot lot. Currently it's all shown as seepage beds, so it's not really an open
space, it's a drainage lot. So, the idea was to decrease the adjoining two lots and add
some actual open space onto that drainage lot. The Commission agreed with staffs
recommendation and forwarded that onto City Council. This morning staff received a
revised preliminary plat and revised landscape renderings for Matador project and the
revised plat changes were as follows: And you will see it here,~T,hey have moved the
drainage lot from the corner to -- on the north side of Copper'Ridge and now there is
five buildable lots on the south property line. The relocated common lot has been
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reduced from 10 920 square feet to 4,953 square feet.~'In addition, the total amount of
open space for the project has been reduced from 8 14to 5. ~5 '~?~ i1And the term open
space is lose there, because there was a drainage lot„ '~ It's nonb~u,ildable lots, really.
Due to the reduction in the common areas, the,~*average lot sizes have',increased from
9,751 square feet, to -- that's per the old plat~;';,And to~fhe new plat is~1~0,,1t24 square
feet. On -- I heard that later today there was ~a third plat;p~resented to staff that there
was not time to evaluate. So, 1 think -- I'm no't,ts~ure~~if the applicant'has a revised
revised plat or not at this point, so -- and, then, the{;,'„~jthere was some pictures of the
amenities, the tot lot and., then, the picnic table, as proposed for the new plan. With
that I'll answer any questions that Council~and,,Mayor may ha~et, soh
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De Weerd: So, Anna, you just got these,yp~lat
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De Weerd: Okay`" LC`o~uncil, a~y,~questions af{y~~hiisrpoint?
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Bird: I have~none . ., ,I ~~, ,1;~_A~~._~<<~~y
Rountre'e`.~ I have none ,rnght now~;;l> ,_~,r
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Zaremba: I havewlo~~~t~track of where the amenities are now. Are they on the new
drainage lot? ~'`
Canning: This lot, I believe, is designed to accommodate the open space, as well as
the drainage. The prior one was just designated as a drainage lot. The subdivision is
less than five acres, so it's not required to have open space.
Zaremba: Thank you.
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De Weerd: Okay. Is the applicant here?
address for the record.
If you will, please, state your name and
Whitehead: Absolutely. Madam Mayor, Council members, for the record, good
evening. My name is Sabrina Whitehead and here on behalf of Briggs Engineering and
Equity Development. My business address is 1800 West Overland Road, Boise, Idaho.
83705.. And as Anna has mentioned., tonight I'm presenting beforela ou With th~s
Estates. This is a request for annexation, zoning., and a preliminary p
development the developer took into consideration the character'''of the area, City of
Meridian's Comprehensive Plan, as well as the existing resd',e~nces out there. With all
the developer felt that the R .4;~zoniing, would be the most
these considerations, .a,~,,~ v;~ ~~
compatible with the existing area and surrounding la;nd'~uses. T.~f~<e,refore, as has been
mentioned, we are requesting 4. 92 acres to be ~r~ezonetl to R-4 ~~,;~~T~his will include a
total of 19 lots, 16 which are buildable and thr~ee~that are common ~aT~he~site will have
ingress and egress off of McMillan Road., which,,w,ill provide public stub roads..to the east
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and west. The site will have pressurized • irngatign th ~ough Settlers Irrigafion District
and at this time it's kind of unknown who will mairitain,it,; 'either the district or the HOA.
As for sewer, we are in negotiations with the developer to the west to provide sewer
easements -- sewer and water. On~~J;uly 3rd of last year•;I~conducted a neighborhood
meeting where I had three neighbo~~si~~attend. The ~eo,nce~rns expressed by the
neighbors was Curt Hert. His concern i+was~theiview shed a ~}d:~so the developer agreed
to limit Lot 3 of Block 2 to be single story,~within~the~$CC&Rs~,for him. The other concern
brought up by one of the other neighbors,was''~accessl,for~•the fire department. And as
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Mr. Silva's here he,.has-`a`pproved the plans with what we have set forth. Now, I o
want to discuss the~open space's Originally,~ywe didn't provide any open space, due to
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the fact that it wasn't; squired '~#i However, aftetr.:,fihe Planning and Zoning Commission,
agreed to provide usable open space. So, usable
talking with city staff, tlie~~'de ~elo'p~erz,y ,. ~~
is kind of like ~the«key word,,here, because before we did have open space, but it was for
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a retention~pond! ~ ; So;;.technic~alil~y, it s riot"'super usable. So, with our engineering irm
~'!' ''i' '''~ -- water retention is a seepage bed, which would be
we decided to locate ~t~he~~~retenfiio;n#a~~~v
r ~ ~'~~' therefore;+=leaving it=more usable and for people to be able to use it. So,
undergroiuind, ,,~~ ~, ~~ ~j.~,
today, when• we have so{ many modifications -- and I do apologize, it was kind of last
' to we'I~d~~e'cided to tae,'the -- that one lot, the retention, and move it into another
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location, whicl-i;~~the engine~enng felt would be better for water retention. We, actually,
increased that lot~~}size that you see as the new plat to -- so, it will be 50 feet in width.
So, it's actually larg~er!~~`So, my main point here is that, one, this is more usable than
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having a retention pyond. Two, with the seepage bed being placed underground, it wi
be safer not to have a playground located next to a pond. Three, it's more centrally
located. I know that Planning and Zoning have desires to have it across the street, but
we felt on the corner lot it will be more centrally located, easier for the residents to
access, as well as making it safer ha a someisirolble s. noAnd myl f fth andwmy final
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point here, trying to persuade you that while our open space percentage has decreased.,
in my opinion I feel it has increased, because it's due to the fact that it's more usable,
instead of just having a pond.. So, I hope that I have made my points and outline and
request that I feel this is the best comprehensive and best scenario for this subject
property. And with that I will stand for any questions and thank you for your time and
consideration.
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De Weerd: Sabrina., I guess I have a question as to -- this was in front of the Planning
and Zoning Commission in November and they recommended the changes that I
assume are -- were the ones that were received today. Whyi~were they just received
today . ,;,ai,,.
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Whitehead.: Well, I -- we didn't get the landscape upd
my fault for not getting -- us getting it in sooner. I jus~
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be such a concern having it relocated to that lot. ~;,~.~-
De Weerd: It takes staff time to evaluate, so;~they can
Council and I guess it's just consideration of ~sta'ffs ti
came into our office to look at what would be propose;
show them what is currently in front of them and I do
either. So, I guess that's my point'I;;,';And it's not to cF
Council, any questions? ~~,y~,~~~!L,~(i,i.~;,,~w
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Rountree: Madam Mayor? ~~~~;~
De Weerd: Yes
Rountree: So, whati:
an additional 50 feet?
originall'y~35.
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Rountree:
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d untill,just recently and it was
I didri't~':,k'now if it was going to
eke a recomm'eh~dation to City
sand the neighbors. If they
inig'ht, we wouldn't be able to
think that is fair to the public
ise you, but maybe it is, so --
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he''re is not what';~oyu`re saying, you're saying this lot will be
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it to 50.
out of all these lots cumulative and --
e reduced them in size. Correct.
Rountree.: And they remain in excess of 8,000 square feet?
Whitehead: Correct.
Rountree: Okay.
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De Weerd: Mr. Borton.
Gorton: Madam Mayor. Sabrina, I understand you're kind of in a jam, but I tend to
agree with the Mayor in this situation and at least for me the evaluation of the planning
department and their comments and review are critical in gathering all the information,
not only for us, but also for the -- for the public to be aware of what's going on. Having
something provided the day of, for me I wouldn't even want to go one way or the other
and approve it or not approving the project until that's done and~.,l,'`am extremely sensitive
to delay and I totally understand what that -- what that means'to a-developer and the
financing, et cetera, In this situation it doesn't look like there;.is really any -- any unique
excuse which 'ustified what's become a huge delay. Wt'at'I'm'~getting at is my sense
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would be is just to continue the matter. I mean I, ,for~gne, am~not, comfortable going
forward to approve anything today until staff has a ~fa~ir~'opp'ortunity to review it, to look at
it, comment upon it. So, that sort of shortcuts; where we are at, a't~~least for me right
now, but I think just to be fair to your client and~~'fair,to staff~,there -- `'~~ '~~'?~~~~~
Zaremba: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba.
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Zaremba: Not to be repetitive, but`;what~':
changes and I appreciate that you have~;~take
think along with what has,be~en said, you~cja~i
there is a lot of things,,tl~athappen. Wfiat nab
plat, in order to move the
r~;i~lisat~.~
something has to~c" ha'nge in
look at it and the Public`~oi
mean. So,~,lt~,doesn't
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>u're describmg~`'sounds like very good
~the~,~tlme ~to,~rYiake these changes and I
nderstand~+our needs to do that. I mean
seem like a very minor adjustment in the
~ where you did to across the street,
~o;~you know, the planning staff needs to
ok at it to -- to see what those changes
ate that you're probably going the right
Whitehead: If 1"ii~o~u^feel it~'w/ould be best to table it -- to continue it for the review, I'm a
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hundred percent in'~support of that, so --
De Weerd: Okay.Thank you. Any other questions from Council? Thank you. This
is a Public Hearing and so we'd invite any members of the public who would like to
comment at this time. Okay.
Bird: Madam Mayor`?
De Weerd: Yes, Mr. Bird..
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Bird.: What I`m hearing is -- from Councilman Borton is probably continuing these public
hearings, which right now Councilman Rountree and Mr. Clerk, Berg, needs to tell me,
but I think probably the 18th of February would be the soonest we could --
De Weerd: That would be the 19th.
Nary: 19th. ~~~'' ~~~
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Bird..: 19th I mean. What did I say? .~~?~v';ii~,
Nary: 18th. ~, ~~l;l~ ~~~~~ ~~;.
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Bird: 19th is the soonest we can get it. I would like to see the preliminary plat as
presented today, not what we are getting here;; grand I'd like to see how those,tother lots
are -- how the 15 foot's taken out, whether it's t~rvo'foot per~';lot or 15 foot out of one or --
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or what. And so I am with Councilman Borton andjt,if,the other Councilmen want to,
would like to continue these public hearings until 'February 19th and get -- get that
preliminary plat drawn like the proposaL;they want to present and have it before us.
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Rountree: Madam Mayor, just for Co'uncil'si~consideration, jthe preliminary agenda for
t, ' ~i(;hiS~(~ts,,.
the 19th is pretty busy. I mean we havet we:iha~,e;~Tow~nrCenter -- it was continued.
But that may not happen., Probably won't ,~~~~But wei~have South Meridian Comp Plan
amendment as well. ,~I,{rneam~:we can try for~fthe 19th and if Town Center doesnt show,
which like I said, pirokably wont, have you l'eard anything from them?
Canning: Madam May
President Ro.untree,., Got
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update as to,~iwhether or i
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have anything to'~present~i
Rountree: Well, th
Bird: Is the 19th okay?
Nary: Yeah.
of theiCouncil, Councilmember Rountree -- or
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~patedl-you would get much on February 19th, other than an
t they have turned in the traffic study and I have not heard
~~traffic study yet, so I can almost assure you that we won't
you on the 19th.
like a reasonable date, then..
De Weerd.: Okay.
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Zaremba: Was the motion seconded? I would if not.
De Weerd: There was amotion --
Bird: I was going to.
Zaremba: Oh, I thought Keith made it.
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Borton: I appreciate the second in advance. Madarn':'Maygr,~ ~l would move that we
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continue Items 14 and 15, AZ 07-013 and PP 07-017„ to=iFebruary~1;9th.
Zaremba; It would be my pleasure to second thati`motion. ~~~~:;' ~'~~
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De Weerd: Okay. I have a motion and a nice~second on';I.tems 14 and 1~5 to continue
the Public Hearing to February 19, 2008. All those in~favor say aye. Allayes. Motion
carries. ~~. ;~ ;°;;
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. 'y~:~~~, ~~'r,~:~. ~,;,~ , ,~~,_ ~,~
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Item 16: Public Heating: RZ 07i-0;15 Reque`st~for a <Rezone of . 28 of an acre
from an R-8 residential zone to ari"tO ~T~;-zone for, 6«~~and Broadway Property by
Linda Loehr - 532-~-East :Broadway Avenue: ~"`
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De Weerd: Oka~y~'i''Itern 16 is~~a~ Public Heari~ng~on RZ 07-015. I will open this Public
Hearing with staff comments..' ~f --_ ~;;'~'`
Canning. 'l~ -lVradam~,Mayor,'~'Members of'~the Council, this is the 6th and Broadway
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property and it s locatedl;at 532= East Broadway Avenue and the application before you
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tonight~.ns~ a rezone it§'s` a rezone•~~of . 28 acres from R-8 to OT. The applicant is
requesting~~~~the rezone, so, athat they can build a new two story four-plex on the site.
Under current~llcode multi-family developments are not a permitted use within the R-8.
The Old Tovvn,~~zoning district allows multi-famil develo ment as a rmci all
=,t~#~,;~. ;~#_~ y P P ~ P ~Y Permitted
use. .Due to the.~sm~all s ze of the subject property and the applicant's intent to improve
the site, staff believes that a DA is not necessary in this instance. And that's, really,
because of the requirement for the design review. Most likely they will be subject to a
conditional. use for design review and, therefore, we didn't recommend the DA. We do
have some elevations for you tonight. This is the site plan. Point this out a little bit.
The streets run on the bottom of the page and to the left and, then, an alley runs on this
right side. You have parking off the alley and, then, two parking off of the street.
De Weerd: Anna, do you want to move the microphone closer.