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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2002-03-12 SpecialCITY COUNCIL SPECIAL AAEETING AGENDA Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 5,30 p.m. City Council Chambers 1. Itol~-call Attendance: X Tammy de Weerd X Bill Nary X Cherie McCandless X Keith Bird X Mayor Robert Corrie 2. Addption of the Agenda: 3. Ordinance No. 02-943 :Official Newspaper: Approve 4. Pubilic Hearing: Proposed Comprehensive Parks and Recreation System end .Action Plan: Continued Public Hearing to April 2"d, 2002 Meridian City Council. Special Meeting Agenda -March 12, 2002 Page 1 of 1 All materials prosented at public meetings shall became properly of the City of Meridian. Anyone desiring accommodation fior disabilities related to documents and/or hearings, please contact the City Clerk's Office at 888-4433 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting. • CITY OF MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING AGENDA Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 5:30 p.m. City Council Chambers 1. Roll-call Attendance: Tammy de Weerd ~ Bill Nary _~~ Cherie McCandless Keith Bird _~ Mayor Robert Corrie 2. Adoption of the Agenda: ~~`~ ~-e. 3. Ordinance No. ~~ ' ~ ~~ :Official Newspaper: ~~~~'``~- 4. Public Hearing: Proposed Comprehensive Parks and Recreation System and Action Plan: Meridian City Council Special Meeting Agenda -March 12, 2002 Page 1 of 1 All materials presented at public meetings shall become property of the City of Meridian. Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and/or hearings, please coNact the City Clerk's Office at 888-4433 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting. • i CITY OF MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING AGENDA Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 5:30 p.m. City Council Chambers 1. Roll-call Attendance: X Tammy de Weerd X Bill Nary X Cherie McCandless X Keith Bird X Mayor Robert Corrie 2. Adoption of the Agenda: 3. Ordinance No. 02-943 :Official Newspaper: Approve 4. Public Hearing: Proposed Comprehensive Parks and Recreation System and Action Plan: Meridian City Council Special Meeting Agenda -March 12, 2002 Page 1 of 1 All materials presented at public meetings shall become property of the City of Meridian. Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and/or hearings, please contact the City Clerk's Office at 888-4433 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting. Meridian City Council Special Meeting March 12, 2002 The Special Meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 5:30 P.M. on March 12, 2002, by Mayor Robert Corrie. Members Present: Robert Corrie, Cherie McCandless, Bill Nary, Tammy de Weerd, and Keith Bird. Others Present: Bill Nichols, Tom Kuntz, Mike Worley, and Will Berg Item 1. Roll-call Attendance: X Tammy de Weerd X Bill Nary X Cherie McCandless X Keith Bird X Mayor Robert Corrie Item 2. Adoption of the Agenda: Corrie: I would like to call to order the City Council Special Meeting on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 5:35 P.M. Roll Call Mr. Clerk. Item Number 2 is the adoption of the agenda. Council you have the agenda before you. Any other additions or corrections? Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion to adopt the agenda as stated. Bird: Mr. Mayor. Corrie: Mr. Bird. Bird: I move we approve the agenda as stated. Corrie: Do I hear a second? McCandless: Second. Corrie: Motions been made second to approve the agenda as noted. Any further discussion? Roll Call vote Mr. Berg. Roll Call: De Weerd, aye; McCandless, aye; Nary, aye; Bird, aye. Corrie: All ayes, motion carried. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES Item 3. Ordinance No. Official Newspaper: Corrie: Item Number 3 is an ordinance for the Official Newspaper. What's the - is Bill in? Bill do we have anything different on the newspaper? Nichols: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council I have no new information on that other than what you already have. Meridian City Council Special Meetin~ March 12, 2002 Page 2 of 18 Corrie: Do we have an Ordinance Number? Berg: 02-943. Corrie: 943? Ordinance Number 02-943. Mr. Clerk could you read that ordinance by title only please at this time. Berg: Thank you Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council Ordinance Number 02-943. An ordinance of the City of Meridian, Idaho to amend the Section 2 of Chapter 5 of Title 1 of the Meridian City Code of the City of Meridian providing for the designation of the Idaho Statesman as the official newspaper of the City of Meridian and providing an effective date. Corrie: Is there anyone from the audience that would like to have Ordinance Number 943 read in its entirety at this time? Okay, you're aware of what's going on Council? Hearing none, any discussion with Council on the ordinance? Okay then I entertain a motion to - Nary: -- Mr. Mayor. Corrie: Mr. Nary. Nary: I guess I don't know what's going on. Why are we doing it? I remember some discussion about this but I guess I don't remember saying that this was what was coming. Corrie: Mr. Nichols. Nichols: Councilman Nary, Mayor, and Members of the Council. The Valley Times doesn't have a Second Class Mailing Permit, which is a condition for official newspaper status. In order to be in compliance with state law we need to designate a newspaper which does qualify and that would be the Idaho Statesman. Nary: I see thank you. Bird: Mr. Mayor. Corrie: Mr. Bird. Bird: If there's no more discussion I would move that we approve Ordinance 02-943 with the destination of the Idaho Statesman as the official newspaper of the City of Meridian and with the suspension of rules. McCandless: Second. Corrie: Okay, motion been made and seconded. Ordinance Number 02-943 was that the Idaho Statesman be noted as the official publication of the City of Meridian and the suspension of rules. Any further comment or discussion? Roll Call vote Mr. Berg. Meridian City Council Special Meetin~ March 12, 2002 Page 3 of 18 Roll Call: Bird, aye; Nary, aye; McCandless, aye; de Weerd, aye. Corrie: All ayes motion has been carried. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES Item 4. Public Hearing: Proposed Comprehensive Parks and Recreation System and Action Plan: Corrie: Item Number 4 is a Public Hearing for Proposed Comprehensive Parks and Recreation System and Action Plan. Mr. Kuntz. First, let me do this right. I will. open the Public Hearing on the proposed Comprehensive Parks and Recreation System and Action Plan. Okay, Mr. Kuntz. Kuntz: Mr. Mayor and Council it's with a great deal of pleasure that I present our Parks and Recreation Commission tonight who have spent numerous hours on putting this plan together and also have spent a numerous number of hours in the last week putting this presentation together. Paul Newcomb has put the PowerPoint presentation together with the assistance of the rest of the Commission. With that, I'll introduce Mr. David Moe who will do the introduction. Moe: Mr. Mayor, Council Members, and audience good evening. The following is the departments mission statement. Meridian Parks and Recreation seeks to provide opportunities for citizens of Meridian to participate in life enhancing activities by offering quality year around recreation programs and awell-designed and maintained Park System. Having said that, in 1999 the Park and Recreation Commission hired consultants Landerman-Moore Associates to assemble a workable Comprehensive Plan for the Park and Rec Department. After numerous drafts, the final plan was completed in 2000. During the early drafts and final document stage the Commission was frustrated that the consultant was preparing a very generic plan with data noting mainly national averages, nothing,, which was specific to the City of Meridian. Therefore, we then decided to hire Jerry Draggoo of MIG Incorporated to review the Comprehensive Plan and a symbol and Action Plan, which would be more specific to the City of Meridian. As noted on Page 1-1 of the action plan it states both plans should be adopted together with the Action Plan taking precedence. There are five chapters within the Action Plan, which will be presented tonight by Commission Members along with various charts and graphs for your review. Mr. Mayor and Council as we go through the action plan I hope you will take notice of the graphs and charts assembled here. That you keep an open mind to this plan and understand that although it is a very aggressive plan to provide adequate parks, open space, trails and other recreational facilities for our increasing population within the Meridian area of impact it's exactly what it says it's just a plan. .Something, which has never existed. Now that the city has a Park and Rec Commission and Director to advise Council on Park and Recreation issues this plan will help define city requirements and desires for the citizens of Meridian with estimated cost projections and methods of possible funding options to bring some if not all of the Action Plan to (inaudible). I thank you for your attention. At this time, I would like to introduce Commission Member Debbie Watkins to review Chapter 2. Watkins: (Inaudible) talk to my students. Thank you Mr. Moe. Good evening Mayor. Meridian City Council Special Meetin~ March 12, 2002 Page 4 of 18 Corrie: Debbie, just a minute would you give your name? Watkins: Debbie Watkins. Corrie: Thank you. Watkins: That's for the record. Corrie: This is a Public Hearing I guess your right. Raise your right hand. Is the testimony you're about to give the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you god? Watkins: It is. Corrie: Thank you. Watkins: Good evening Mayor, City Council Members and audience. My task here is just to brief you on the five or six types of park systems that's listed in your comprehensive book. You should all have your book out in front of you I hope and you can follow along with me. There will be detention if there isn't. The overall concept of the park system that we have tried to create in our plan features a larger multi-use community parks as our centerpiece. Our desire is to have a park system within one to one and a half miles of each residence in the city. Linking these park systems would be our pathways. There you will find the string of pearls written in there. The string of pearls just simply is this the pearls are the parks and the string is the pathways that should meet or come close to meeting all the parks when we're finished. This is our goal, this is our plan, and this is the vision. I'm going to just really briefly define the different types of the park systems that you'll see in your plan. The first one we have is mini parks. It's less than an acre. It's designed to provide a playground system for just the neighborhood that it's in. Simply that it's very many. V1le only have one at this point in .time and it's the Tammy Street. It's a half an acre. The next one is neighborhood parks and these parks range from five to seven acres in size. The radius of this park should approximately serve one half mile designed for non-specified, non-supervised, non-organized recreation activities. It could include, may include playground, picnic, trails, pathways, outdoor basketball, and practice fields for soccer, youth baseball, and restrooms. That was could, may, or may not. When possible you should build these or we should build these next to school sites so we can have a larger open space area. We have two currently. Eighth Street Park at four acres and Chateau Park at 6.8 when it's complete. I'm going to read this as per addendum because I thought it was stated really well. You should have received an addendum dated the 7th of February 2002. While the city supports neighborhood parks, its primary focus is on developing community-sized parks that provide a greater variety of functions and serve a larger number of citizens. The city would look favorably at developers providing public neighborhood parks. The city would assume the liability and maintenance responsibility if the developer chose to deed the park to the city. Into the third and most important primary type of park system that the Commission has set. That's the community park. The area of the community parks the size is 20 to 30 area 25 being maximum - or being optimum. It's less expensive to build per acre over neighborhood parks or many parks. Meridian City Council Special Meetin~ March 12, 2002 Page 5 of 18 It's designed to serve an approximately one to two mile radius from the residence. It's for organized sports and activities and could mayor may not include sports fields, tennis courts, open multi-use green space, playground equipment, restrooms, picnics, shelters, pathways, trails, basketball courts, skateboard parks just to name a few. Acquisition of these types of parks should occur far in advance of their need. Far in advance. So far we have Storey Park 20 acres, Tulley Park 18 acres and Fuller Park is 25 acres, which is in the recreation district. The fourth type is a large urban park. Minimum size is approximately 50 acres. The radius is designed to serve the entire community. It's designed for sports fields, may or may not include, tennis courts, restrooms, playgrounds, skate parks, large picnic areas, small picnic areas, shelters, trails, pathways, indoor facilities, aquatic facilities just to name a few. The fifth is special area -special use areas. The size and location of these of course depend on what they're used for. A specialized park can be used by the entire city population. So far, we have Generations Plaza, which is about a quarter of an acre, or more now that's it's finished. City Hall Park .2 acres. The outdoor pool which is in the recreation district and its one-acre. The sixth and final is the open space areas. The size of course is different because it's natural open space is undeveloped land that's left in its natural environment or as close as possible where recreation is really secondary. Individual parcels or combined parcels are there to create continuous linear patterns for trails or pathways, which is our - do you remember? Is that the pearls or the strings? I'm asking a question. That's the strings. The Five Mile Creek, Ten Mile Creek, and Nine Mile Drain are all parts of that sort of system. In conclusion, I would like the Council and Mayor to listen to these words. We would like you to know that this plan is a template, is an itinerary, is a wish list, and is a guide. It's a starting point for the city. It's not finite. It's a starting point. It's some place to direct our attention when we do have the fund available, the land given or donated or an opportunity where we can manipulate what we need for parks in this area from now into the future. I wanted to also tell you that the Commission would welcome five to seven acre park that the developers are willing to trade for impact fees perhaps. Where the developer would be the one to build and staff and maintain -and we perhaps would maintain. I also wanted to mention again that when you look at this the community parks were chosen primarily for its use of the space, it's proximity or radius from the community. It's less expensive to build than smaller parks. With this said I'm going to turn this presentation over to Mr. MacCoy. He's going to be (inaudible) identifying the cities inventory as it stands today. Thank you. Corrie: Thank you. Did we act like kids in school? Watkins: You were very good. Corrie: Okay thank you. Malcolm - or Mr. MacCoy if you raise your right hand. Is the testimony you're about to give the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you god. MacCoy: As the best of my knowledge yes. Corrie: I may have to do this again but you're right. Thank you. Will you give your name and address please for the record? Meridian City Council Special Meetin~ March 12, 2002 Page 6 of 1 S MacCoy: My name is Bruce MacCoy I'm at 2171 South Retriever in the City of Meridian. It's going to be my pleasure to address you Mayor and Council Members on the second part of Section 2. Everybody else who talks you'll be talking about what could be and all the fine things this plan holds. I'm going to talk to you about what is. Currently in the City of Meridian, we have very limited parks to offer. Before I get too detailed let me back up and look at -currently the (inaudible) is somewhere between 8 and 10 acres per thousand citizens would be a good amount of community recreation space. This graph shows what's available in the State of Idaho, cities of a like size or around us here for park land for the citizens. As you can see Meridian over in the far right barely (inaudible) out 2.39 acres per thousand it's just we're way behind the curve. Our goal with this plan is to deliver to our citizens four acres per thousand. We think that's pretty aggressive from where we stand now and we think it's also doable. We look at what's coming down the road as proposed growth for the City of Meridian. By the time this plan peters out six years from now in 2008 we should have probably close to 50,000 citizens. That would require us to have close to 200 acres of space available for our citizens. That's really, what this plan is driving towards. Towards that end we currently look at -that read really well. Let me walk you through this because I don't know if all of you can see that very well from there. Currently we have Storey Park at 15 acres, Tulley Park at 18 acres, and Eighth Street Park at 4 acres, Generations Plaza which is a special use area a quarter of an acre. City hall park at a fifth of an acre another special use area, the Fathergill Pathway at a linear park at a half-acre and the Five Mile Creek Pathway at 1.2 acres is a linear park. That gives us a total of 39.15 acres currently existing. Now we have also right now sites being developed as we speak that have already been budgeted by this Council that will be coming park land, is it by September Tom? Will join our system by September so we are counting this now as additional parks (inaudible) be available by the end of this year which is 6.8 acres at Chateau Park, 20 acres in Meridian Settler's Park and 18 acres at Bear Creek Park. That brings us to a total if you're taking the 39.15 acres existing and the additional 44.80 that that last bit I just gave to you comes to at the end of September we'll have a total of 83.95 acres of developed park land for our citizens. We take that and put that with the other parks that are available for people to use in our city under WARD, the Western Ada Recreation District we come to a total - 26.5 acres of those park lands so a total of 110 acres currently available for us (inaudible) in our community right now. We're pretty close to achieving this year where we want to be in the immediate future but we need to move forward with the plan to get where we need to be in six years, which is double this figure. That's one thing we would like you to keep in mind as you look at this plan. It's a starting point. If we don't start now we're never going to be able to catch up to where we need to be in six years. With that, I will turn this over to Sheri Baker. Corrie: Is the testimony you're about to give the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you god? Baker: Yes. Corrie: Okay your name and address for the record please. Baker: Sheri Baker, 1746 Jericho in Meridian, Idaho. The third chapter of our Park's Action Plan is trails -well actually it's not just trails and pathways is facility recommendations which includes trails, pathways, community center which I'm going to Meridian City Council Special Meetin~ March 12, 2002 Page 7 of 18 touch on and then I'll turn it over to Paul. As Debbie mentioned earlier the trails and pathways system is designed for recreational uses mainly. We have to keep in mind that it also provides non-motorized travel throughout our community if it's fully developed. Excluding pathways and existing or planned parks, we only have two pathways -real true pathway systems. That's the Five Mile Creek Pathway, which is a mile long, and the Fathergill Pathway. The plan in the action plan outlines general guidelines for land use, site selection and then the design and development of those trails. The map that which you have in your action plan shows the trails plan, the recommendation of where we believe the pathways should be planned. The yellow all around the outside of the perimeter is the main -the Meridian loop is our main -well I wouldn't call it our main pathway. This is probably the furthest out from happening but eventually we could connect the whole perimeter of the city. Almost about 13 miles I think we have estimated at. Then we also have the three main green ones, which kind of follow the three naturally occurring geographic areas that we have which are the Five Mile Creek, Ten Mile Drain, and the South Slough. Then there are several others in there that connect. The idea is that the city would develop these eventually in time and then smaller ones would be developed by the development community as they're planning subdivisions. As new things come online, business parks and whatever that would eventually help connect the main system, get you to the main system so that you could get to the other side of town or you could get to a park without driving your car. It had a lot more uses then just getting on the greenbelt and getting some exercise. We can cut down the amount of traffic if you want to get from one point to the next or from your house to a park to go watch a ball game. You can ride your bike or walk with your kids then all the better on top of getting exercise. The next slide -yes. Now when we talk about the community center this is something that we realize is going to be a need in the future. We haven't determined how soon in the future or exactly what the need is going to be. In past surveys and planning when we did the original Comprehensive Plan there's definitely an interest. Some possible uses for the community center could be amulti-purpose gym, space to have teen and senior activities as far as recreation classes. Amulti-purpose reception room for banquets possibly, large and small meeting rooms, a climbing wall, exercise weight training room, run and walking track and obviously support facilities to run the community center. These are just possible uses. I know earlier in the plan it also talks about an indoor aquatic center. More surveys and more research has to be done to tell us exactly what we want to put into a community center, what we can afford to put in, what the community wants and also obviously, how we would pay for something like this. It's definitely something that needs to be included in the plan because somewhere down the road we definitely need to have this in Meridian. I think the people want to see it we just don't know what form yet. This is like I said it's a general guideline an outline for possible uses. It mentions the community center but again we have to do further research on that. Now Paul will talk to you about sports fields. Corrie: Is the testimony you're about to give the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you god? Newcomb: Yes it is. Corrie: Thank you. Name and address for the record please. Meridian City Council Special Meetin~ March 12, 2002 Page 8 of 18 Newcomb: My name is Paul Newcomb and I reside at 3837 West Harbor Pointe Drive in Meridian. The sections that I'm going to cover tonight are in regards to the sports fields and specialized recreational facilities around the city. The sports field situation in Meridian is near and dear to my heart. It's a very big problem that I personally get to deal with everyday being the facility manager for the Meridian Youth Baseball Organization. At this point, we have as the chart shows there. The adult softball fields available for scheduling currently stand at three. The need stands at five. For youth baseball, we currently have five available. Realistically, we could use about 19. The youth soccer currently has no fields available and is need of about eight. Of course, this zero fields available doesn't include the sod farm that they're playing on, on the corner of Eagle Road and Fairview. That particular situation is something that I've brought up to City Council before. As a parent and as a driver it scares me to think that there's going to be hundreds of van loads of little soccer players on and off of Eagle Road during peak traffic hours. I pray to god that we don't get our park situation rammed up our nose by a semi truck running over a van load of kids. The recommendations that the plan makes in regards to sports fields starting off with -starts off with a formation of a sports council. This is a council that would be composed of city leaders, school leaders, and representatives from the various sports organizations. These folks would be primarily in charge of setting policies to manage the sports fields throughout the town. Part of this sport's council's job would be organizing centralized field scheduling. Fields currently are being under utilized because there's no one checking how much time the organization actually needs. The organization representative calls up, schedules the field for as much time as he can possibly get and it's left at that. One of the things that we're doing as Meridian Youth Baseball we're doing is to put our fields onto a much more rigorous usage schedule so that we can consolidate more teams on fewer fields and use a much more efficient use of the time. I can very much see where this centralized field scheduling would be a great program to adapt citywide. Third is the introduction of a tiered field system. We don't have to have a Boise Hawk Baseball Stadium on every city park that's not practicable and not practical. You would have fields on one of three levels. Level one would be practice fields. Basically, what you have here is something that is again, to what you'll find the most of schoolyards throughout Meridian. You find a green space with a backstop. If they want to figure out where 60 or 90 feet is between the baselines they can go throw bases down and just general practice fields with open areas for them to play with nothing more than a back stop. Level two you get to a game field. This is a field where you're likely going to see facility improvements such as digging out an infield, mounding a pitchers mound, baselines, foul lines, something much more permanent. It's not something you're going to see where you're going to have field lighting, concession stands, built in bleachers or things like that. That comes into level three under the tournament field situation. The tournament fields are going to be a full blown, sports complex type field. This is where you're going to see permanent concession stands built, permanent seating, possibly lighting. This is going to be a high quality field. Moving onto the specialized recreational facility recommendations -let me back up here. I'm focusing a little too much on baseball right at the minute. I've got baseball on the brain here. This tiered field system is going to work beyond baseball. The practice fields and game fields these are all sorts of things that you're going to be able to integrate football, soccer, any of the other league and team sports onto these fields because these are not things that are going to have outfield fences and permanent improvements that are going to preclude using the fields for other uses. Whereas when you get to tournament fields Meridian City Council Special Meetin~ March 12, 2002 Page 9 of 18 those are going to be much more specialized. Something like that you would have - if you're going to have a tournament soccer field, a tournament baseball fields, or a tournament football field the improvements on that are going to identify specially for that. one use. Specialized recreational facilities obviously the Skate Park is under way. That is an issue that has taken a lot of effort but it is finally progressing. Group picnic area this is looking for somewhere where groups in excess of 50 people can gather for a picnic. Currently outside of possibly meeting rooms or various catering facilities around town, there really is nowhere outdoors that really has good facilities for holding a large group picnic. Tulley Park currently is the only facility that really has a -well Tulley and Storey both I guess have some facilities available. It would be nice to have something that had a much more organized group picnic structure available. The adventure playground -the adventure playground idea is taking the average city park playground and magnifying it 10 fold. This would be a playground where people would make a trip clear across town, possibly from the other side of Boise to come play on it. This is something that's going to hold the kids attention for several hours. The outdoor water playground concept is much the same as what Eagle has in their city plaza. This is a (inaudible) possibly a (inaudible) water feature or an easily managed above ground water feature possibly needing life guards, possibly not depending on the concept. Outdoor reception area this is a shortage throughout the entire valley there are very few areas where you can have some type of a formal outdoor reception whether it be wedding, anniversary, or any of those sorts of things. This would be a very nice addition to the facilities in Meridian and it's currently just not available. As you are probably aware there is some movement going on within the community to work on building an indoor ice rink, which has also been identified as a current short fall. At this point, I'm going to turn the microphone over to Craig Steele and he's going to touch base on Chapter 4 on the management recommendations with you. Corrie: Craig, is the testimony you're about to give the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you god? Steele: It is. Corrie: Name and address for the record please. Steele: Craig Steele 2021 Northwest 8~' in Meridian. Good evening Mayor and Council. Real quickly in this chapter. In Chapter 4 it deals with staffing requirements and impact fees. The impact fees we're going to cover in a little bit more detail .with Jim but as far as the staffing requirements go, currently we have 6.8 full time equivalents in parks as far as for maintenance. With that, we have 39.15 acres, which if you divide that out that's 5.9 acres per employee, which is kind of a low as far as the acreage that we would like. The targets, the ideal targets that we would like to hit would be 7.9 acres per employee so we're currently not there. By the end of the summer, we will have 84 acres up and going. At that point, that will 12.4 acres per employee. By the end of the summer that number gets to be a lot better then what it currently is. On the other side of that, as far as maintenance costs the current maintenance cost in the current budget is 393,645 dollars. If you divide that by the 39 acres, it's a cost of 10,093 dollars. By the end of the summer of course that cost drops down quite a bit with 4,686 dollars per acre. The ideal target at that one is 8,000 dollars per acre. It's pretty much as far as Meridian City Council Special Meetin~ March 12, 2002 Page 10 of 18 that again with the impact fees Jim's going to cover that in a whole lot more detail. I will turn it over to Jim. Keller: I'm going to use a couple of presentation boards if that's okay. Corrie: Is the testimony you're about to give tonight the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you god? Keller: You bet. Jim Keller, 587 East Kingsford Drive in Meridian Idaho. What I'm going to try and do is just give you a little summary of everything that's happened so that you can get a visual picture of what we're accomplishing with the six year plan. I won't go much further than that but if you look at the far chart, you've seen that chart on the wall before. Our goal is to try and get to about four to five acres per thousand people. Right now, at the end of the summer when we complete the construction that we're underway with right now we will be in 3.2. De Weerd: (Inaudible). Keller: We will be at 3.2 acres per thousand. We've made some real progress going from 2.3 up to 3.2 with the programs that we're working with right today that the Council has funded and also through impact fees. If -- the population is somewhere around 35 to 36,000 people. That says that we are going to need if we go with the goal of four acres per thousand people we will need an additional 29.5 acres of developed park land, which we do not presently have. We own the land but we haven't developed it. If we go to five we'll need 64 and the equivalent cost to develop those at four acres per thousand is 2,360,000 dollars. If we go to the five it's another 5 million dollars. This assumes that there is no donations or inkind work. I'm trying to give you a comparison here of the financing. If you go to 50,000 people whether that's six years or ten years let's don't worry about that. Let's worry about the fact that it's 20 or 50,000 people you would need an additional 89.5 acres of developed land or if you go to five you would need 139 acres and you see the corresponding cost. The total cost then would be we need to get to 200 to 250 acres of developed land by the time we get to a population of 50,000 people. Any questions? Let's talk about how we're going to get there and how much it's going to cost to get there. This chart shows our proposed six-year plan. If you look at that plan compared to this chart, you can see what the six-year plan would do for us. The way the plan is set up right is you see the ten acre -that the park's that are going to be developed we talked about those before. The Ten Mile Park, the McDermott Road Park, the Eagle Road Park, the Kiwanis Park, the Settler's Park and so forth you see the land that there is proposed in the six year plan to be purchased or donated is about 87 acres. If you add that to the acres, we already have 145 acres you get to 232 so maybe you look at this chart and you say not bad. We're going to be moving in the right direction. We're going to get to some place between four and five acres of owned land not necessarily developed land. If you look at the other side this says okay, we're going to develop parks. The same park series and a bunch of other recreation facilities are in the six-year plan. You see here what's going to happen here as we get these developed we'll add another 107 acres of developed land which will take us to a total with existing land of 217.5 acres. Again, you look at the chart over here so we have an opportunity to accomplish the goal of getting to four acres per thousand people. You say okay, where are those parks. We have a little presentation Meridian City Council Special Meetin~ March 12, 2002 Page 11 of 18 chart that shows that we'll leave with the City Council. This basically shows the parks. Now we've talked about a lot of other things here but basically, the trails hopefully will come. What we're interested primarily is developing parks. We have a small park here it's the Kiwanis Park, you see the parks corresponding numbers is the Eagle Road. This is the McDermott and Ten Mile Park and then we'll complete the Meridian Settler's Park. That will be the park's hopefully that we're able to complete with this funding package. Now the next question is okay, that's a nice plan where's the money going to come from? We'll be begging from the city to get some of that money. This is what is proposed as the funding mechanism. In impact fees at the present rate of impact fees at 529 dollars per lot or per equivalent dwelling unit over asix-year period will generate about 2,400,000 dollars. So far, the City Council has been very generous in offering and getting -we've been obtaining about 400,000 from general funds a year. Over six years that's another 2.4 million. There are grant funds that are available that we're now actively pursuing to achieve additional funding and then we're hoping to get some donations and we'll talk about those here a little bit to come up with a total package of 6,735,000 dollars as you see over there. This plan is very, very optimistic in that we do need to come up with some donations. Those donations could be land, donations from different clubs and so forth but if it turns out that we are not successful in achieving this then we're going to have to adjust something somewhere else. We're actively pursuing that opportunity but the Council needs to recognize the fact that we are hoping to get this. One way that we might obtain that would be say a 100-acre, 200-acre subdivision comes in, they donate some land, we credit them some impact fees. Hopefully we don't' have to credit them more than there lots. If we do, then that will lead into this fund and so we would have less donations. The goal is that. There have been some questions raised about the impact fees and the justification of being able to charge an impact fee for this 529 dollars. If you look at this chart, this is a calculation of the allowable impact fee that would be allowed based on todays - or the acreage that we would have per thousand people at the end of this year that's already .funded. At the end of this year, we will have 3.2 acres per thousand people. You go across here you see the land cost, the development cost and basically the number would be 1,031 dollars per acre at the present level of service. That means then that for any new development we could assess up to 1,000 dollars per equivalent dwelling unit per equivalent lot. If we were to achieve by the end of this year or some other time by annexing or developing additional parks four acres per thousand that would be 1200 dollars. Then to maintain that level we would have to be able to acquire that amount of money someplace 1200 dollars per lot. Right now, we're presently charging 529 dollars per lot, which is 51.3 percent of the amount that we will -level of service that we have established or will establish by the end of this year. With that, I would entertain any questions. I'm sure any of the board members would be happy to answer any questions that you might have. Bird: Mr. Mayor. Corrie: Mr. Bird. Bird: This isn't a question but I think for public testimony you better get Mr. Moe up here to swear in before we go any farther. De Weerd: (inaudible). Meridian City Council Special Meetin~ March 12, 2002 Page 12 of 18 Corrie: Has the testimony you've given tonight the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you god? Moe: Yes it is. Corrie: Thank you. That was to let the record show that that was David Moe. You are looking at increasing the impact fees through Committee and (inaudible)? Kuntz: Mr. Mayor and Council. Corrie: Raise your right hand please you've got to be sworn in. Is the testimony you're about to give the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you god? Kuntz: It is. Corrie: Name and address please. Kuntz: Tom Kuntz 268 West Clair in Meridian Idaho. Mayor and Council the six-year plan as you see it tonight is based upon our current level of impact fees. There is a paragraph contained in the plan that recommends increasing our impact fees from 529 for single-family resident to 729 per single-family resident. It will generate approximately 900,000 dollars over asix-year period of time. That's where Mr. Keller suggested that - we have about one million four in this plan that we're looking for in donations. We know that's going to be a tough goal to achieve but that's where the increase in impact fees could also help. We are asking for and not tonight of course, because this is a workshop but we are asking for approval of this plan. Once that is done then the next step that we would pursue would be asking for an increase in impact fees, going through the proper channels and meeting with the associated realtors and builders council. De Weerd: Mr. Mayor. Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd. De Weerd: I would first like to commend the Park's Commission for first this wonderful presentation. It was very well - ***End Of Side One*** De Weerd: -- all the steps that this Commission has gone through in developing this plan. Boy, when I first saw the plan that came -that was first developed I thought all was lost. This in addition to all the fine-tuning that the Commission has done is just fantastic. You've created a great vision and it looks like you're going to have a lot of hard work ahead of you. I appreciate the commitment that has been shown and the enthusiasm in trying to pursue the vision that you're creating here tonight. You've brought this a long way. I guess I have a couple of things. There was a Pathway Committee and I know somewhere out there is a pathway plan. I don't think it's too far off what is in this plan here but as we look at developing the standards and that sort of Meridian City Council Special Meetinc~ March 12, 2002 Page 13 of 18 thing, the standards and the work that was done by that Pathway Committee does need to be a part of this plan or referenced or something. That is one issue that I wanted to bring up. Watkins: Council Member de Weerd I did speak with Ed Fong today he got back in town. He emailed me a three-page committee report. A lot of what they said is included in the plan as far as design specifics. They actually went into much more detail on design specifics as far as how wide, easements, and site vision easements those kinds of things. They do have a lot more detail. He did tell me that he would be dropping off all of the hard copies of everything that he has to Tom Kuntz' office hopefully (inaudible) too and on his travel schedule. He would be getting us hard copies of all that. I do have their committee report, recommendations, vision statement, and what not. I don't know if you actually want us to include it in the action plan or maybe just reference it as a way to complete the path when we acquire the space for that. De Weerd: Well maybe it's something that you can have on your agenda on Wednesday I don't know. I think this is already referenced in our Comprehensive Plan so you don't want too many document floating around out there to find these things. I do know the development community as we're looking at these pathways and they traverse through their properties are looking for more specific guidelines and those kinds of things that I think this committee had. Also, in our Comprehensive Plan Public Hearing there was testimony on how we can tie up through Linder Road toward the state park to the north. That would be something that if we're considering it in our Comprehensive Plan it certainly needs to be a part of this. Watkins: Are you talking up towards Eagle Island? De Weerd: Yes, and how we can incorporate that maybe into the North Meridian Area Plan. Pathways were one. The sports council that's a new idea I think. It must have been recently developed. I would like to see how - I like to see these kinds of recommendations because it starts to mold how your plan is going to start coming to formation. I would really love to see that happen and would love to see how it will happen. In that sports council, a number of months ago I believe it was when Ed Fong was on and when we were starting to digest the first draft we got. Some of the issues that we wanted to address that I don't think have been really given -they've been given a lot of time at the Commission level. I don't really see a lot of it at this plan and that would be the partnership with the school district and green space management. This is an open space resource that right now it's a lot, or it has been a lot of what Meridian has only had. This is a key component of the sports council or of anything else. I don't know, maybe I would like to see a little bit more detail or a little bit more emphasis placed on developing that kind of partnership. Partnerships are encouraged, referenced and valued in this plan but maybe we do need to get a little bit more into it. I would be curious to hear what your thoughts are on that. Newcomb: Speaking from both a user standpoint and as one of the representatives of a sports league one of the biggest things that I could see a sports council Number 1 is ,more effectively utilizing the space available. We have constant battles between the sports leagues with one league signing up and camping out and no other league is able to use the facility. As I said, for Meridian Youth Baseball we took one of our computer Meridian City Council Special Meetin~ March 12, 2002 Page 14 of 18 wizards and turned him loose with the list of facilities that we had available, the number of teams, the number games and all that. He came up with a database where he could just absolutely schedule each field to it's capacity assuming that we factored in a wear and tear margin so that we're not running these things down to bare dirt. Your comment about forming partnerships with the schools and things like that one of my greatest frustrations is the lack of communication between all the sports leagues in the school. Quite frankly the lack of exposure as a parent. When I try and find out what's going on I want to be able to go to one place. That one place doesn't always have all the information available or currently doesn't exist. You have to kind of pick and choose to find out what's going on. I think the sports Council could be a great benefit because it could give the citizens of Meridian one place to focus. Hey, if I want to do something with sports this is who I call, no questions asked they would know. That would include all the schools, representatives, adult sports leagues, kids sports leagues, all of it. I think that's a very important point to be made. De Weerd: Do you think through that that sports Council function or umbrella this kind of a green space management would happen? Newcomb: To a point. I don't think the sports council is going to be stepping in and taking over Mr. Kuntz' function because that is their primary function is to manage their park's system. This sports council is primarily going to be an advisory capacity with their major focus on being the liaison between all of the cities league sports organizations and the Park's Department. Primarily focused on sports field utilization. Nary: Mr. Mayor. Corrie: Mr. Nary. Nary: I guess I'm not particularly sure who can answer this but I guess what's a little bit confusing to me to follow up I think on what Councilman de Weerd just said, some of the references in this plan talk about property that isn't owned by the city but is developed. Like the parts that are owned by Western Ada Recreation District for example. The schools aren't counted at all in any of the open space calculations yet they are counted as existing fields to fulfill some of the need that there's obviously more need on top of that. It seems a little confusing to me if I was a member of the public reading this. The number of acres and number of facilities that are needed I don't think are necessarily wrong but I'm just a little concerned that apublic - a member of the public would say, well wait a minute you're counting that school in one chart and you're not counting it in the other. What was the reason for that? Kuntz: Mayor, Council, and Council Member Nary. Two comments, one is our consultant purposely cautioned us away from including the school property into our inventory. Our task really is to provide municipal facilities that are city owned and city maintained. That was the first suggestion from our consultant. Two is I think at a secondary level including that into an inventory of open spaces available for community use and scheduled by youth sports organizations I think would be very practical and would go along the lines of what Paul is talking about as far as a sports council. As far as the plan that we hope to put before you tonight and start building the consultant was very clear that in other communities they do identify only city owned, city maintained Meridian City Council Special Meeting= March 12, 2002 Page 15 of 18 facilities and do not purposely identify school facilities. Now with that said, there is - we're hoping there is a possibility of parting with the district to identify some sites that are used very heavily by the community. One of those would be of course the middle school site to where we would come in possibly with some city funds and school district monies in a partnership. Similar to what we did with the high school tennis courts and upgrade those facilities as far as underground irrigation systems. The friends at Meridian Park actually have committed money to make that happen. I believe it was two years ago. To bring those facilities up to a level, since they are used heavily by the community it a quasi park really type of arrangement and partner to keep those at a level to where they're safe and I guess a little higher level than the district is able to afford on their own. Nary: To follow up. Tom, Chief Joseph does the same thing and Linder Elementary does the same thing. There are a number of school sites that we've had discussions with the school district about that partnership. I guess that just seemed to be the only thing in here because I think this is excellent. There's a lot of great information and there's a lot of great things in here. It just seemed to be the one piece that as I read through it just seemed to be missing. There's no reference to anything in relation really to the schools except some facilities occasionally are mentioned. It's not calculated as recreational spaces being used yet we have other area -other things like Western Ada Recreation. That's not a city owned park, Fuller Park, or the swimming pool but yet we count that. I guess I'm a little curious. It just seems like a conflict to me or just a little piece that's not there that at least there should be some sort of reference about it that's all. Kuntz: I need to go back to the original plan done by Landerman-Moore. I believe the schools were actually included in that inventory but it's - is that true Mr. Berg? Nary: In this one? Kuntz: Yes, I think the school property is included in that but it's been so long since I've Nary: -- and I didn't review this one again, I just read through the other one. Kuntz: Yes. Nary: Like I said it's not the biggest thing in the world but it just - if I was a lay person trying to figure this out I would say well wait a minute are you including these schools and are you including these sites too. Maybe we don't need to develop as much park land of that type and we need to focus it on a different type of recreational use. Kuntz: Because many of those school sites, Council Member Nary are really used for use sports practices. The middle school I believe Meridian Elementary is used by our youth baseball organization fora game site. They are used for recreational opportunities your are, correct. De Weerd: Mr. Mayor. Meridian City Council Special Meetinc~ March 12, 2002 Page 16 of 18 Corrie: Ms. de Weerd. De Weerd: Just to add to that. I recall the consultant saying that you don't use those unless you have an agreement with the school district. Then you can utilize that as your green space in those calculations. I do think it is important to identify specific schools that are heavily used by the community that a partnership would make sense in improving that green space and maximizing that piece of open space. I think -and that's why I would like to see a little bit more reference to the schools and in securing or pursuing, that kind of partnership so that that green space management in those heavily used areas can be part of that calculation. That might even be a less expensive way to raise your level of service to the four, which would be the goals so you can start collecting impact fees at different rates. Just an idea. It's certainly an idea that we've discussed. MacCoy: Mr. Mayor may I add something. One of the things to point out to us too about including the school lands. One of the things we did when we presented this to you for simplicity we tried to build from one point so all the information tied together. We cannot calculate school land into the total amount of recreation space available to our community because we cannot base impact fees upon school land acreage. Also, on school properties, school activities hold precedence over city activities. We really cannot count on them as free open space for our citizens to use. For those two features, we felt we should (inaudible) park system exclusively. Bird: Mr. Mayor. Corrie: Mr. Bird. Bird: I agree with the Commission on that. I realize there's times when probably the middle school gets more use out of youth practices and stuff than any others. On a 24- hour` basis, they are not open to the public so I don't know how you can count it in that and on this - on the impact fee area, I'm sure we would not be allowed to include it on that. It's like Western Ada, the land they've got I feel could be included because we as citizens actually pay a tax on that just like we do our city taxes. I would think and I don't know whether we can do that but I believe that's the reason that schools should not be counted. Not that I wouldn't like to see a lot of partnerships and use the schools which we do use the schools. They are not open to public facilities for 24 hours a day. De Weerd: Mr. Mayor. Corrie: Ms. de Weerd. De Weerd: Not to draw out the conversation on this. Again, it goes back to you have to have an agreement in place. Secondly, yes you would not be able to use impact fees but it's the least expensive way to bring your level of service up that I can think of. Third, when we enter into partnerships with the Lion's with the Kal Rippkin, with PAL or whatever they would still have first priority use on that so it's not like your public has 24 hours. You're still going to be dealing around scheduling issues just like you are with the school. It's maximizing that open space and making it usable. It think all of us have experienced the middle school playground or playing fields and not knowing what Meridian City Council Special Meeti~ March 12, 2002 Page 17 of 18 direction that balls going to bounce as it rolls down the field. It's pretty frightening. It's just a point. It's something I would like a little bit stronger emphasis in this plan on and see how we can maximize that partnership in there. Corrie: Is there any other testimony that the public would like to (inaudible)? I too want to say thank you for the wonderful job you guys have done -people, guys, people excuse me. Keep this non-gender here. You did an excellent job, you've come a long way, and I think that we're going to be able to do it. You're the one's that's the force behind it. We can give you all the help that we can. I think there's a lot of people out there that's behind you all the way too. I think you're going to see a lot more of the public taking a hold of the information you've given us tonight. I know that Bruce has got some people that have some other things in mind coming down the pike as well. MacCoy: Mr. Mayor thank you. What would the Council like to have this Parks Commission do at this point as far as follow up on this plan? Corrie: Well, actually we need to accept your parks plans. Then I guess that we'll leave it up to the Council about how they want to have you proceed. I know that I want you to proceed but we'll give you some direction after we've approved the plan. I think that's probably the best way to go. We can all get together and give you that direction. De Weerd: Mr. Mayor. Corrie: Okay. Mrs. de Weerd. De Weerd: I guess there are two things that I had discussed that I would like to see how we can tie the pathways recommendations from the committee into this plan, have the Commission kind of look at what it is that they're recommending and see if it can be easily tied into this. The second thing would be an addendum referring to the partnership with the schools and maybe even identify just what schools they're kind of looking at such as Meridian Middle School. We had some correspondence from the association of realtors and the BCA that I think were answered with the information that we got here tonight but they haven't received it so I would like to continue this Public Hearing until the first meeting in April - Bird: April 2nd De Weerd: -- since it is a land use, has land use ramifications, April 2nd. Keep this Public Hearing open so we can incorporate any recommendations from the Commission on those specific issues. Bird: Is that a motion? De Weerd: Sure. Bird: Second. Corrie: Okay. Motion made and second. Any discussion? Okay, hearing none, all those in favor of the motion say aye. Meridian City Council Special Meetin~ March 12, 2002 Page 18 of 18 MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES Corrie: Okay. De Weerd: Mr. Mayor. Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd. De Weerd: Again, I would really like to thank you all for the hard work and what a great presentation, very impressive. There is hope. Corrie: I never had a fear about that at all. (inaudible discussion from audience) De Weerd: Pardon? (inaudible discussion from audience) Bird: That's general. Mr. Mayor. Corrie: Mr. Bird. Bird: I would move that we close this special City Council meeting. McCandless: Close the Public Hearing? Corrie: Okay, I'm going to --. We've already done the continued Public Hearing until April 2nd. Okay, the motion is made and seconded to close the special meeting. Any other discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor say aye. Meeting closed at 6:45. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES MEETING ADJOURNED AT 6:45 P.M. (TAPE ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS) APP ERT D. COR .,r ~~. y, r ~l ~. ~ ~ f, DATE APPROVED ILLIAM G. BERG, JR., ITY LERK i ~ March 8, 2002 MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL MEETING March 12, 2002 APPLICANT ITEM NO. 3 REQUEST Official Newspaper Ordinance AGENCY COMMENTS CITY CLERK: CITY ENGINEER: CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR: CITY ATTORNEY CITY POLICE DEPT: CITY FIRE DEPT: CITY BUILDING DEPT: CITY WATER DEPT: CITY SEWER DEPT: MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT: MERIDIAN POST OFFICE: ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT: SANITARY SERVICE COMPANY CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH: NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION: See Attached Ordinance SETTLERS IRRIGATION: IDAHO POWER: US WEST: INTERMOUNTAIN GAS: BUREAU OF RECLAMATION: OTHER: Contacted: Date: Phone: Materials p-eseMed at public meetings shall become property of the City of Mertdlan. CITY OF MERIDIAN ORDINANCE NO.o2- ~ ¢3 ~/ BY COUNCIL MEMBER: K. C~ ~ ~ ~~' AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO, TO AMEND SECTION 2 OF CHAPTER 5 OF TITLE ~ OF THE MERIDIAN CITY CODE OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN PROVIDING FOR THE DESIGNATION OF THE IDAHO STATESMAN AS THE OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. BE IT ORDAINED BY THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO: SECTION is That Section 2 of Chapter 5 of Title 1 of the Meridian City Code of the City of Meridian, be, aid the same is hereby amended to read as follows: i-5-2: OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER: The Idaho Statesman printed and published in the City of Boise, be and is hereby designated the official newspaper of the City of Meridian, and such ordinances, notices and publications as are required by law to be given publication iri a newspaper shall be published in said Idaho Statesman. SECTION 2: All ordinances, resolutions, orders or parts thereof in conflict herewith are hereby repealed, rescinded and annulled. SECTION 3: VALIDITY: The Meridian City Council hereby declares that any section, paragraph, sentence or word of this Ordinance as adopted and amended herein be declared for any reason to be invalid it is the intent of the Meridian City Council that it would have passed all other portions of this Ordinance independent of the elimination herefrom of any portion as maybe declared invalid. SECTION 4: SAVINGS CLAUSE: This Ordinance does not affect an action or proceeding commenced or right accrued before this Ordinance takes effect. SECTION 5: DATE OF EFFECT: This Ordinance shall be in full force and effect after its passage, approval and publication, according to law. Ordinance for Official Newspaper -The Idaho Statesman i • i PASSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO, this ~Z ~ day of ~'~'j G~-~-h- , Zoo2. APPROVED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO, this /2~ day of ,/~.'rGy~-cam , 2ooa. yo Robert D. Corrie Y \~`. t1.t n ~ {b Y ATTEST: '' ~ ~ t ~~FF .~}},,. ~4 ~. a~~~ ~~ ~ S ~ r , 4' ~: City Clerk y ~,. ~~~ ~~ ~~ ~. First Reading: ~ `~'' ~~' . Second Reading: Third Reading: ~' Adopted after first reading by suspension of the Rule as allowed pursuant to Idaho Code 50-902: Yes No Z:\Work\M\Meridian\Meridian ~,536oM\Ordinances City Hall\2oo2 ORD\AmendOfficialNewspaperzoo2.doc Ordinance for Official Newspaper -The Idaho Statesman 2 March 8, 2002 • MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL MEETING March 12, 2002 APPLICANT ITEM NO. 4 REQUEST Public Hearing: Proposed Comprehensive Parks and Recreation System and Action Plan AGENCY COMMENTS CITY CLERK: CITY ENGINEER: CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR: CITY ATTORNEY CITY POLICE DEPT: CITY FIRE DEPT: CITY BUILDING DEPT: CITY WATER DEPT: CITY SEWER DEPT: MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT: MERIDIAN POST OFFICE: ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT: SANITARY SERVICE COMPANY CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH: NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION: SETTLERS IRRIGATION: IDAHO POWER: US WEST: INTERMOUNTAIN GAS: BUREAU OF RECLAMATION: See Attached P & Z Comm. Minutes OTHER: Contacted: Date: Phone: Materials presented art pubNc meetings shall become property of the CNy of Meridian. j~,ECEIVED CITY OF MERIDIAN CITY CLERK OFFICE r ~ ~~G ~Sp. ~t~. D3~- ~2--02. BEFORE THE MERIDIAN PLAN1~11ING AND ZONING COMMISSION IN THE MATTER OF THE APPLICATION FOR A PARIGS AND RECREATION COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT Applicant CASE NO. CPA- RECOMMENDATIONS The above entitled application for amendment tb the City of Meridian's Comprehensive Plan Generalized Ladd Use Map having come on for public hearing before the City Council on the 7`~ day of February, 2002, at the hour of 7:00 p.m., on said date at the Meridian City Hall, 33 East Idaho Street, Meridian, Idaho, and appearing and offering testimony was Shari Stiles, Planning and Zoning Administrator, and having duly considered the matter, the Planninng and Zoning Commission makes the following Reeomniendation concerning Amending Comprehensive Plan Generalized. Land Use Map. Chapter 2, Section 2.2.2 "Neighborhood Parks" i . Page 2-3, table 2.1 -Udder "PROPOSED", add N-25 Autumn Faire Park, page 2-9. 2. Page 2-4, Facility plan inap -Add asterisk for N-25 in current location RECOMMENDATION AMENDING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PARKS AND RECREATION PLAN - 1 in C-5 Arid move C-5 to northeast corn of Cherry Lane and McDermott Road. 3. Page 2-7, first paragraph -Last sentence should read "Size .ranges from 5 to 10 acres, with the optimum size at 7 acres." 4. Page 2-7, section B-i item A -Delete all of A grid replace with "While the city supports neighborhood parks its primary focus is on developing comrriunity sized parks that provide a greater verity of functions and serve a larger number of citizens. The city would look favorably at developers providing public neighborhood parks. The city could assume liability and maintenance responsibility if the developer chose to deed the park to the city." 5. Page 2-7, section B-2 item A & B - (A) should read "r-o smaller than five (5) acres in size." (B) Delete the word `reasonably'. b. Page 2-8, table 2.3 -Add park number N-25, site: Autumn Faire, acres: 6.80 (B), action: Development. Change total to 26.7 and Existing Acres total to 24.5. 7. Page 2-9, section title "Proposed Thousand Spring Park" first paragraph -Thousand Springs Park should read (2.8 acres). Should also read "In addition, the school district has first option on a 2.2 acre parcel just North of the Los Alamitos Subdivision that will revert to the city if it is not developed for a school site." Second paragraph last sentence change 8.4 to 9.0. $. Page 2-9, section title "Proposed Autuinri Faire site N-25"- paragraph to read: "The developer of Autumn Faire has agreed to provide a 6.9 acre site in their subdivision for a future neighborhood park." Chapter 2, Section 2.2.3 "Community Parks" 9. Page 2-10, section B-2 item A -change 15 to 20. ly/~:\VVork\M\i~ieridian\Meridian 153.5fli1~t\Recammendatians\CompY'ianParks.wpd RECOMMENDATION AMENDING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PARKS AND RECREATION PLAN - 2 i, i Meridian Parks & Recreation: Addend to Parks and Recreation Plan February 7, 2002 Chapter 2, Section 2.2.2 "Neighborhood Parks" • Page 2-3, table 2.1 -Under "PROPOSED", add N-25 Autumn Faire Park, page 2-9. • Page 2-4, Facility plan map -Add asterisk for N-25 in current location in C-5 and move C-5 to northeast corn of Cherry Lane and McDermott Road. • Page 2-7, first paragraph -Last sentence should read "Size ranges from 5 to 10 acres, with the optimum size at 7 acres." • Page 2-7, section B-1 item A -Delete all of A and replace with "While the city supports neighborhood parks its primary focus is on developing community sized parks that provide a greater verity of functions and serve a larger number of citizens. The city would look favorably at developers providing public neighborhood parks. The city could assume liability and maintenance responsibility if the developer chose to deed the park to the city." • Page 2-7, section B-2 item A & B - (A) should read "no smaller than five (5) acres in size." (B) Delete the word `reasonably'. • Page 2-8, table 2.3 -Add park number N-25, site: Autumn Faire, acres: 6.80 (E), action: Development. Change total to 26.7 and Existing Acres total to 24.5. • Page 2-9, section title "Proposed Thousand Spring Park" first paragraph -Thousand Springs Park should read (2.8 acres). Should also read "In addition, the school district has first option on a 2.2acre parcel just North of the Los Alamitos Subdivision that will revert to the city if it is not developed for a school site." Second paragraph last sentence change 8.4 to 9.0. • Page 2-9, section title "Proposed Autumn Faire site N-25"- paragraph to read: "The developer of Autumn Faire has agreed to provide a 6.9 acre site in their subdivision for a future neighborhood park." Chapter 2, Section 2.2.3 "Community Parks" • Page 2-10, section B-2 item A -change 15 to 20. ,,, -~ Meridian Planning and Zoning Sp®cial Meeting _ _ ____ February 7, 2002 The special meeting of the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at 6:00 P.M. on Thursday February 7, 2002 by Chairman Keith Borup. Members Present: Keith Borup, Leslie Mathes, David Zaremba, Keven Shreeve, and Jerry Centers. Others Present: Larry Moore, Brad Hawkins-Clark, Bruce Freckleton, Tom Kuntz, and Will Berg. Item 1. Roll-call Attendance: X David Zaremba X Jerry Centers X Leslie Mathes X Keven Shreeve X Chairman Keith Borup Borup: Good evening Ladies and Gentlemen. We would like to call to order our special meeting for the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission. The agenda on this meeting is going to be the first Public Hearing on the proposed parks and recreation system and action plan is the full name. We would like to start with the roll call, Commissioners in attendance. Item 3. Public Hearing: Proposed Comprehensive Parks, and Recreation System and Action Plan: Borup: I will mention this is a special meeting before our regular Planning and Zoning meeting this evening with one item on the agenda and that's the Comprehensive Plan for the parks. We would Pike to start with again open this meeting and start with a report from Mr. Kuntz, our Parks and Recreation director. He's going to give us an overview of the plan. Kuntz: Thank you Mr. Chairman. Before I start, I wonder if I could get pronunciation on our new commissioner's name David, last name. Zaremba: Zaremba. Kuntz: Commissioner David. Borup: Commissioner Centers has just arrived. Zaremba: I do answer to David if that's easier. Kuntz: Thank you. First off I want to dank you for allowing us to take an hour of your time #onight. I know how busy you Planning and Zoning Commissioners are so, I'm going to t6ry to keep this as brief as possible. I'm going to give you a little Meridian Planning and Zoning G~Rimission Special Meeting February 7, 2002 Page 2 of 17 bit of background information. In July of 1999, the City Council approved monies for the parks department to hire a consultant to put together Meridian's first parks Comprehensive Plan. That plan was completed in July of 2000. Unfortunately the plan did not give us the clear direction that staff and the Parks commission we would receive from our first Comprehensive Plan. As a result of that, the Council approved us hiring a second consultant who put together our action plan. That's kind of the meat and potatoes of what I would like to discuss tonight. The initial Comprehensive System Plan really had some fairly generic information that could be used in any city, any park USA. So, I'm not going to even reference that plan tonight but I would certainly entertain any questions that you have from that document. We are hoping to adopt both of the documents at one time. However, as it states in the action plan, if there is, if there's inconsistencies that appear between the two documents, the action plan will take precedence. I just wanted to kind of clarify that. Also tonight, I handed out --. If there's anyone in the audience who has an action plan. We do have our first draft of amendments, addendum to that plan. I brought extra copies if anybody needs to pick one up tonight. Those are some changes that the commission and staff are suggesting at this point, especially in relationship to neighborhood parks. With that, I'll do an overview of the plan. Starting with the introduction on .page 1-1. The plan is actually divided up into five different chapters starting with the introduction, chapter one. Two is the park and open space recommendation. Three is facility recommendations. Four is administrative and management recommendations. Finally number five is our project funding which includes asix-year capitol improvement plan. Again, the kind of meat and potatoes of where we go from here. We need to have that six-year capitol improvement plan to be able to ask Ada County to start collecting impact fees in our area of impact. Also, will be the driving force for us asking for an increase in our impact fees. So, that six-year capitol improvement which is in the back of this document is a real important part of this entire plan. Our planning area is 4., or excuse me 40.5 square miles is. what this plan addresses. It is a 20-year plan. However it is intended to serve the entire Meridian impact area and City limits at build out and we're not sure when that's going to be. The plan on page 1.4 talks about what our estimates, our consultants estimates are as far as total build out and build out in 2020 is near 80,000 population is what they're suggesting we're going to be at. From there we move into chapter two which is parkland recommendations. It really talks about the different varieties of park that make up a healthy park system, ranging from mini-parks which are traditionally provided by private developers, neighborhood parks, community parks, our large urban park which we have one we're developing this year, the 58 acre park. Then special use .areas and open space areas which would include pathways. The first map that you have in your action plan is on page 2-2. That actually shows the existing parkland in the community and school sites. So it is land that is owned by the City as well as Western Ada Recreation District and the school district. I might summarize by saying that currently we have 39.15 acres of developed parkland in Meridian and the impact area. We have 93 acres of undeveloped parkland for a total of 132.15 acres. We add to that the 26 and a half acres that Western Ada Recreation District owns. Meridian Planning and Zoning mission Special Meeting February 7, 2002 Page 3 of 17 So we have 158.65 acres of combination of developed and potentially developed parkland in Meridian and the impact area. That's on the first map on page 2.2, 2- 2, excuse me. I'll keep moving along here. On 2-3, the key element is that the parks proposed in this plan are designed to achieve several objectives. But the top three are to provide community parks within a reasonable bicycling or walking distance from most residents. Two is to provide land for specialized facilities such as a potential indoor community facility, special playgrounds. Number three utilizing linear parks, canals and watercourses for trails and pathways that could hopefully link these parks together. Also on 2-3 is an inventory of our existing parks as well as our future parks and they are denoted by symbols C-1through C-24 noting community parks, which on the screen are the large red asterisks. There are a total of nine of those. As well as neighborhood parks which we currently own and need to develop as part of agreement with developers who have deeded us the property with the understanding that those would be developed. There are I believe three of those. Eighth Street Park which we own now. Excuse me, there's four of them. Eighth Street Park, Chateau Park, which we're almost through developing, a park north of Los Alamitos and then Autumn Faire Park, a 6.8 acre park. I will comment that Autumn Faire Park is not included in this document and is included in the addendum. Centers: What about Bear Creek? Kuntz: Bear Creek is actually shown up there. It's a community park because of the size 18 acres. Centers: Right. Kuntz: So it is identified, I believe it's a green square because it's 90 percent complete. With that I turn to page 2-7, which starts to talk about different types of parks design and development policies, where they should be located, how much street frontage they should have. This particular section on page 2-7 is the one that is addressed most heavily in your addendum. The reason for that is, this overall plan really focuses the City's attention and financial resources to building the nine community parks on our plan. We support neighborhood parks but given the limited resources that we have available had to make a decision, which the Parks Commission supports. There are some of those members here tonight in the audience. We wanted to use our impact fees 100 percent to build this community park system for a couple of reasons. One is the community parks serve a larger population base surrounding them. Two is we're able to actually program more activities and events in community parks. Three is they are less expensive to build and maintain acre per acre when you compare them to neighborhood parks. We're trying to reach, I guess a happy medium with the developers to try and build incentive enough to have the developers actually put the neighborhood parks, five to seven acres in size in as part of their development in exchange for part of the open space requirement, especially when you've got a ten percent planned development. We're hoping that we can Meridian Planning and Zoning missies Special Meeting February 7, 2002 Page 4 of 17 motivate them to put those in. one of the concerns the developers have voiced is we put a five to seven acre park in, we don't want the Homeowners Association burdened with having to maintain them. Staff is taking the position, we don't have Council support yet but we hope we do, that the City would then maintain those as public parks if they're deeded to the City, which will be added to our overall system. Let's see. We added Autumn Faire. The rest of that chapter, chapter two, really talks about the different community park sites, what size they should be, what some of the different positive attributes are and then the chapter two finishes up with some design standards on community parks. How much street frontage there should be, what some of the amenities could be included in a community park. I guess won't go into that anymore. Any questions on chapter two? Centers: I have one question Tom. Kuntz: Okay. Centers: You mentioned nine community parks, correct? Kuntz: Yes sir. Centers: You have 11 on your map here. You have 11 red asterisks. Kuntz: If you'll subtract the red asterisk in the lower right hand corner N-22 is considered a neighborhood park. So, we're deleting that from the number. Centers: Bottom right? Kuntz: Lower right hand, right above Thousand Springs. Centers: Right. Kuntz: So, we can delete that and then C-13 which is right in the middle of out system, what we're hoping for there is to partner with the school district on the Meridian Middle School site to upgrade that, the irrigation system. Friends of Meridian Parks has actually donates some money to the school district to upgrade that system and turn it into kind of aquasi-community park where we may be responsible for the maintenance keeping it at a little higher level in exchange for the community using it evenings, weekends, that type of thing. So, true community future parks, we count nine. The very end of chapter two talks about large urban parks which we have one of right now. Then 2.6, open space area talks about our open space especially in regards to trails and pathways. Chapter three talks about recommendations geared towards facilities. Actually four of those specifically, pathways and trails, the potential for a future community facility center, sports fields and then a specialized recreation facility. There is an inventory in that chapter three, 3.4 dealing with pathways, especially Meridian Planning and Zoning mission Special Meeting • February 7, 2002 Page 5 of 17 ones that we'd like to see in the near future and then some design standards as far as width, clearance and those type of issues. On page 2-, or excuse me 3-5 is our last colored map, which shows our three main pathways that follow Five Mile Creek, (dine Mile Creek, and I believe Ten Mile Creek. On the map on the screen they're showing in, two of them are shown kind of a yellow. One is in a bright green. The other things that are shown on that map, which are perimeter loop, is what we call our string of pearls. That's intended to be a pathway system incorporating sidewalks, inter-subdivision pathways, off street pathways. Really a combination but really is intended to provide the community a way to get from one community park to another on foot, or bike, or rollerblades so they don't have to use automobiles. The last area in chapter three talks about specialized recreation facilities. One being a Skate Park which we are hoping to build, break ground for this spring and get it built this summer. Group picnic areas, an adventure playground which is a large multi-age playground designed especially for the handicapped. That will be located in our 58-acre park. It will include a zero depth water feature, which will have different spray heads, no standing water. It will all run off into a holding tank or into a large lake that we plan to build in that large park. Then a large picnic shelter that will hold up to 300 people again, targeted for the large 58 acre park. Then our wish list includes an indoor ice rink, which we actually have some private foundations who are discussing that issue as we speak. The last chapter, or excuse me chapter four talks about different management recommendations, how many staff we should have based upon the number of acres that we are maintaining. On 4-3, it talks about impact fees and it talks about the cost to actually build this plan as you see it. With a community center it is almost $42 million. Without the community center it is approximately 37.5 million and that's to build the entire system as you see it before you. Chapter five addresses the financing, excuse me, first it starts with our project priorities on 5-1. Those are acquisition of parkland, development of our large regional park, community park, development of new parks, development of sports field, upgrade existing parks, development of trails, development of specialized facilities, which we talked a moment ago. Then development of a future community center. Those are not in any priority order. Then on 5.3 which is at the bottom of page 5-2 talks about different funding options. With that, on 5- 5, is our six-year capitol improvement plan. With that I will stand for questions. Borup: Questions from any of the Commissioners? Centers: Yes, Mr. Chairman. Tom, on page 4.3 you state that current impact fees are $530.00 per single family home and $407 per multi-family unit. I think you should be a little more clear there. Is that an eight-unit .apartment complex? Is that $407.00 per unit? SO, eight times 407? Or is it --? I guess you understand my question. Kuntz: 1 do understand it. I don't know if I have the answer for it. Center: Really? Meridian Planning and Zoning mission Special Meeting • February 7, 2002 Page6of17 Kuntz: Yes sir. Borup: Doesn't that refer to --? Zaremba: (inaudible) per individual unit within the multiple units. Kuntz: That would be my assumption. Centers: Yes. Kuntz: That would be my assumption. Borup: That is a definition? Centers: I think it should be more clear --. Zaremba: -- how the wording isn't clear. Centers: Right. Per unit in an apartment complex or something to that --. Kuntz: Sure. Or a duplex. It would be - Centers: Per unit, $814.00. Kuntz: Okay. Thank you. Centers: Page 5-3, you mentioned park impact fees in the paragraph number six, Meridian has this mechanism in place but the rate is quite low and does not accurately reflect the true costs. But you don't say what it should be. What do you think it should be? Borup: Back on the previous, 4.3, doesn't that answer the question? Kuntz: Yes sir. Centers: You read yours too. Borup: Back on the same page --? Centers: No, that's where it is now. Borup: No, it's saying 1500. Kuntz: Commissioner Centers, on 4-3, the calculations that we ran, if we wanted to bring our park system up to five acres per thousand population. True Meridian Planning and Zoning ~ission Special Meeting February 7, 2002 Page 7 of 17 costs to buy the land and build the parks today for all the new people that we move in is $1500.00 per household. The political reality is we're at 529. So, our plan is to go to the City Council and request an increase of $200.00, 729, which if you look at the true costs is about 50 percent of what it really costs us to buy land and build parks. Centers: You give the various funding sources or possibilities. Have you tried any of those? My highlighter note was the HUD block grant. Have you tried any of those others? Kuntz: No sir. Centers: I had a note on No. 11 on page 5-3, that sounds interesting. That was my note, joint public private partnerships. Kuntz: Commissioner Centers, actually the partnership is probably one of our Council's highest priorities as far as the Parks Department goes because it's been tried successfully in other communities adjacent to us. That is the City purchases the land and then the non-profit agencies come in and develop the sites, baseball. Centers: So, are we pursuing that? Kuntz: Yes sir, definitely. Centers: But you mention the HUD grant. Are you going to pursue that? Kuntz: We are certainly going to pursue grants. I don't want to specifically say we're going to pursue HUD grants but we're going to look at all these funding options because we don't have an overabundance of funds to build this plan. We've got to look for money where we can find it. Centers: One of the complaints that I've heard is there are pros and cons where you know you increase the impact fees which they may be low. Then of course that's not borne by the developer. He passes it on to the homebuyer. If you keep tacking fees on, then the price is going to be at a level where the number of buyers decrease and you have homes that don't sell. Then it adds to inflation and properties don't go on the tax roll. One thought that came to my mind was, now I don't know if it's possible, you know the homeowner ends up paying for it anyway. In the price or whatever. We put the recycle fee on the trash and water bills. Can't we put a park impact fee on the trash and water bill? The people that are using the parks when then pay for it. Apartment dwellers, the landlord wouldn't be saddled. The tenants that are using the parks would pay for them. I don't know a number that hit my head was five bucks. I don't know how many of those bills go out. How many water bills go out? Meridian Planning and Zoning G~,~mission Special Meeting - February 7, 2002 Page8of17 Kuntz: Many. Centers: Yes. Then you could decrease it when you get to the point where you have all of the acquisition in place and you're just maintaining. If you want to develop a park in Thousand Springs, excuse me for pointing at you Keven, because I know he lives there. You start there. I don't know that's an idea I had and I'm not --. You know I know the developers of course, obviously are going to be against higher impact fees. I mean, that's a given. The builders, but you can see their side of it. Kuntz: Sure. Centers: It drives the prices up. They're not going to pay it. The homebuyer is going to pay it. So, I don't know if you could legally do that. Let the homebuyer and the tenants pay for their fair share to use the parks. Kuntz: Commissioner Centers, it certainly an interesting concept. I'm sure legal counsel would have something to say about it. Another concept that has been brought to our attention by one of our Council members is used houses that are resold. There's no impact fee on that. I checked with our legal counsel and there are specific rules that govern impact fees and those types of fees. I certainly hear what you're saying is there's got to be a more equitable way to distribute the cost to build these parks. I understand that. Centers: The people that are using them should pay for them. Kuntz: I understand that. Centers: I don't think anyone would disagree with that. But it's how you get them to pay for it and make them feel amenable to it. I think that's all of my notes at this time. Zaremba: I'm going to step in and be a little bit contrary to that. I would like to weigh in on the side of impact fees. I thought this was a startling eye opening representation of the short fall. I agree with much of what Commissioner Centers has said. But I also agree with impact fees and raising them. Even though it raises the price of a home and possibly makes both construction and home selling a little bit more difficult. If we're hitting all fronts and trying to find all ways of financing. If we catch up to the right number of acres of park per thousand residents, then any new parks after that are only needed because of new residents. I don't have any difficulty with the concept of thinking that the people who are moving here should pay their own way on the facilities they need. I spread that philosophy to police and parks and schools and everything. I realize we have some sizable impact fees but the facilities are not needed if we didn't have those new residents. I'm not being totally contrary to Commissioner Centers Meridian Planning and Zoning fission Special Meeting February 7, 2002 Page 10 of 17 think it would be interesting to list those and I notice that there was one comment from somebody that said we shouldn't be competing with a commercial one. But I think like you're talking about the Skate Park and ice skating rink, there may be ways that we could parkner with commercial enterprises, maybe they put their name on the skating rink but it's still a City park. Things like that, just some comments in general. Thank you very much for the whole document. Kuntz: Commissioner David, just one comment. Zaremba: Yes? Kuntz: First off thank you. Those are all excellent suggestions. We have actually had some discussion and pursued some of these. But I think the Parks Commission needs to be acknowledged for the amount of work that they've- done on these two plans because they've stuck with staff. Zaremba: This looks like a tremendous effort and it's working out very nicely. Borup: Any other questions from any of the Commissioners? Most of the, I think some that I had have been answered. Just a quick comment on the impact fees. I don't think anybody likes to increase any fees of any kind but it's got to be where it's probably a little bit of a way of fife. I think most of the industry has learned to be able to live with it if it's, I guess in moderation and within the guidelines. I assume that that's one of the aspects that need to be looked at, are they in compliance with the state statutes on impact fees and such. I would assume that's just automatic given. One of the things that I have been a proponent of and interested in is a trail system. One question I had on that is the right-of-way. You have it proposed right-of--way of 30 to 35 feet, is that --? Where did that figure come --? That's the size of a private road. (inaudible) two lane street going down that much of a right-of-way. Is that how much is really necessary? I guess my concern there if it's too much, are we going to fail to get the right-of--way that's necessary for the trails. What thought was given into that? Kuntz: Chairman Borup, a couple of thoughts. One is we actually have a citizen's committee that's been working on a trail plan that's not included in this at this point. We don't have their final documents yet. Borup: I'm going to turn to page 3.4, for any of the other Commissioners. Kuntz: Two is many of these specifications have come from other cities that have found these criteria to be satisfactory for their path. Borup: I'm sure they're satisfactory. I was wondering if they're necessary. Kuntz: Well, the standard that we're trying to adhere to with Planning and Zoning as development comes in now, is major pathways are aten-foot wide Meridian Planning and Zoning C~ission Special Meeting February 7, 2002 Page 11 of 17 hard surtace. We would like a minimum of ten feet on either side of that clearance just so we don't create a tunnel effect or a potential crime situation, those types of things. Luckily our Planning and Zoning Ordinances along pathways call for a low fence or a fence that can be seen through. But to answer your question specifically, we think 30 feet is a good distance to have for a pathway that goes any length. Are we negotiable on that? Definitely. Borup: So, these are set as guidelines? I would assume then that the main thing is the visual impact and the tunnel effect? Kuntz: Yes sir. Borup: So, the surrounding character is what's going to make a big difference? Kuntz: You bet. Borup: If you've got it open, you know a water system or something on one side that can't be obstructed, then you don't have any --? Kuntz: Yes sir. Borup: Okay. I mean I would rather see a 20-foot right-of--way and get a pathway in then not have any at all. Kuntz: We would too. There's a development that I don't know if it has come before you yet, a business development, we met with them, with Planning and Zoning staff and it varies from 30 feet down to 20 feet in certain areas. We put all that on one side because we have a canal bank on one side and we really don't need that. But you know these are guidelines but we certainly - Borup: Okay. Kuntz: -- want to exercise some good judgement and flexibility as we're dealing with the developers because right now they're providing our pathway system. Borup: Okay. Thank you. I don't know --. Do you have anything else? We would like to get to the public testimony. Shreeve: Mr. Chairman, I have a couple of questions real fast. Just a comment on you block grants. I don't believe that you can get those for 100 percent of the project costs. Aren't they just up to a maximum of 500,000? Kuntz: Commissioner Shreeve, I have never worked on a block grant to be honest with you. So I don't know. Most grants there is some kind of match, either financial or in kind contributions. But I can't answer that question. Meridian Planning and Zoning C~ission Special Meeting February 7, 2002 Page 12 of 17 Shreeve: Yes and I believe block grants only go up to a maximum of 500,000. So, just as a point of clarification for reference purposes. Kuntz: Thank you. Shreeve: I don't think you can get 100 percent block grant. Relating to the paths, of course I served on that committee over a year ago for a short time. The comment I have is of course you know the intent is to have the development put in a lot of the paths or at least work with them towards that end. Obviously there's going to be some places that will probably likely need to just simply be purchased or otherwise worked out. I guess either I might have missed it or what is the plan for those in between spots, I guess as far as connecting from development to development, you know where there's existing development that of course there's a path that's shown there? What has ever transpired with that? Kuntz: Commissioner Shreeve. We're hoping that once we get the pathway plan from the committee, which I understand is on it's way. Those areas would be identified. We'll need to then prioritize those areas, put a cost estimate on those area, on either easements or acquisition or those types of things and then construction costs. Similar to what we did at the Five Mile Creek Pathway that connects Linder and Meridian Road along the Five Miie Creek. Then we'll need to start biting off chunks of that and putting them together. The way it's working right now, the developers have been super about providing those as part of their infrastructure. lthink because they see the values of being able to move pedestrians around. Shreeve: Are the impact fees, you know we've been talking about or just the overall costs. I guess that's some kind of a projection of what those will be although we don't know the specifics of areas, but you tried to incorporate that as far as overall costs of getting the pathways in between developments? Kuntz: In our six-year plan right now, I want to go to that before I make this statement. There is approxima#ely $95,000.00 budgeted for extending the Five Mile Creek Pathway. That money could either be through impact fees or a general fund or a grants or donations. So, we've started to identify the need to have some funds dedicated to making that happen. One of the things we're hoping to accomplish or next year at the latest is tq put a pedestrian bridge across Five Mile Creek connecting the current Five Mile Creek Pathway with Eighth Street Park. Right now there's a two by six plank going across there at an irrigation check structure which is used very heavily but it's probably not the best way of getting across there. So, to answer your question, we've tried to identify that in the six-year plan but we would like to continue to rely on the developers to provide those pathways as much as possible. Shreeve: Okay. Meridian Planning and Zoning C~ission Special Meeting February 7, 2<m2 Page 13 at 97 Centers: One last thing Mr. Chairman. I think we learned from experience on your red asterisks for the community parks. If the public is going to see this you want to be with your comments note that they could be moved within a half mile radius and it's not that specific spot. Are you aware of that? Kuntz: Thank you Commissioner Centers. I will go as far to say within a mile radius. Centers: Yes. You want to note that in your verbiage and --. Kuntz: We've had several calls already. Centers: People buy a house thinking there's going to be a park right there. Borup: That's something that you might add to the map. Zaremba: Put it in the fine print on every map. Yes. Kuntz: That's an excellent suggestion. Borup: Okay. Time is getting short so we do want to get to all the public testimony hopefully. So, do we have anyone here to testify on this plan? If you want to come forward. Please state your name and address for the record. Wilder: Janet Wilder at 3340 north Ten Mile Road. Borup: Okay, go ahead. Wilder: My comment is that I would like to ask that either C-1 or C-2 park might be moved to the comer of Ten Mile and Ustick where two of the pathways, the proposed pathways would go right around it. I know this; everyone knows this as a controversial piece of land there and it kind of whatever the Council decides to do with it. I kind of wanted to go on record that we would like to have a park there if it was agreeable with everyone. Borup: Okay. Wilder: Okay? Centers: Mrs. Wilder? Wilder: Yes? Centers: You're referring to this one right here? Move it down this way? Wilder: Move it to the corner of Ten Mile and Ustick on the northwest corner. Meridian Planning and Zoning C~ission Speael Meiling February 7, 2002 Page 14 of 17 Centers: Ten-Mile and Ustick would be right there. Wilder: Right there. Centers: Yes. Wilder: Either the C-1 or the C-2. Centers: Okay. Wilder: Okay? Centers: Thank you. Wilder: Thank you. Borup: Okay. Do we have anyone else? Does Mr. Beckwith still want to testify? (inaudible discussion from audience) Beckwith: Yes my name is Ken Beckwith. I live at 2866 West Park Stone Street. This young lady stole a lot of my thunder. I wholeheartedly support the park being put back at Ustick and Ten Mile. The suggestion that Commissioner Sellers said about adding a fee to the water bill, I would much prefer to pay $5.00 a month during the time that I actually live in my house than to have it tacked onto my mortgage payment for 30 years. I think iYs an excellent idea. Thank you. Centers: Thank you. Borup: Thank you. Do we have anyone else? Anybody from the Parks Commission have any comments they would like to make? 'k**` End of Side One *** (inaudible discussion amongst Commissioners) Borup: Does anybody got a suggestion for the recommendation you would like us to make? Okay, seeing none other, did you have any final comments Mr. Kuntz? Kuntz: Mr. Chairman, I do have one question of Commissioner centers. Your intent on the trash and water bills, was that for Citywide impact wide or --? Centers: Sure. All the people that use the parks. Kuntz: Thank you. Meridian Planning and Zoning C~ission Special Meeting February 7, 2t~2 Page 15 of 17 Centers: Then one other note that t had to prove that I read this document. Page 3-1 where you talk about the servicing of the trails and pathways. I would be highly against bark chips that's mentioned. In fact in some of the hearings where we talked with developers, I've encouraged asphalt so that it's more usable and the weeds don't grow. I even think sand or gravel is bad news. It becomes weeds and you know --. Kuntz: Commissioner Centers, I believe the intent of those was that there was paths that were more going to be used in the County impact area, equestrian type of paths but the staff would agree with you wholeheartedly that hard surfaces --. Thank you. Centers: So, you agree with that? Because we had one situation where we could have required the asphalt but you had recommended gravel and we went along with the Parks Department's recommendation. Kuntz: We've changed that recommendation since. Centers: Okay thank you. The developers are willing to put in the asphalt. Borup: Okay, Commissioners. I think we're done with testimony. Shreeve: Mr. Chairman I make the motion that we close the Public Hearing of the proposed Comprehensive Parks and Recreation System Action Plan. Zaremba. I second that. Borup: Motion is second. All in favor? MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES Borup: Do we need any discussion? Are we ready to make a recommendation? We have the plan with a page of amendments that has been submitted. I don't know if any of the Commissioners had any other comments that they wanted to add. Commissioner Centers does. Centers: One final thing. I would like to see more options pursued like the HUD grants and you know you list 14, 15 ways to bring in money. Lets go after some of them rather than say I want to increase the impact fee because that's the easy way to do it. Don't get me wrong, I think the impact fee probably should be increased but there's others ways to raise the money. Lets go after them rather than just put them down on a piece of paper and say these are ways we could do it. Let's do it. That's my - Meridian Planning and Zoning C~ission Special Meeting February 7, 2002 Page 16 of 17 Borup: That's what I like about this plan. It lets us know what there is and that is going to need to be many sources. One of course by itself is not going to do it. Centers: Right. Borup: I think that's what you're tried to show here, hopefully. That was more of a comment, not something you wanted to add to the document? Centers: No, they're already in the document. Borup: Yes. Just whatever encouragement we can give the Parks department to follow through on some of those specific areas then. Anyone else? Does anybody else have anything else that needed to be added? Zaremba: Just to put on the record, our thanks #o Director Kuntz, and the Parks Commissioners for clearly the effort that has gone in to this and the good thinking that has gone into it and their continued good work. Shreeve: And all the volunteers that have put in long hours. Borup: Right. Okay. Zaremba: Do we need a motion to forward this to the City Council? Borup: Yes. I believe we do. Zaremba: So moved. Centers: Include the amendments. Zaremba: Including the page of amendments that was provided. Borup: Okay. I have a motion. Shreeve: Second. Borup: And a second. Any discussion? All in favor? MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES Borup: Thank you. Yes we do need a motion to adjourn the special meeting also. Would someone like to make that motion? Centers: Yes I would move we adjourn this special meeting. Meridian Planning and Zoning C~ssion Special Meeting February 7, 2002 Page 17 cfi 17 Zaremba: Second. Borup: Motion is second to adjourn the special meeting. All in favor? MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES MEETING ADJOURNED AT 6:53 P.M. (TAPE ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS) APPROVED: / / KEITH BORUP, CHAIRMAN DATE APPROVED WILLIAM G. BERG, JR., CITY CLERK 03/12/2022 04:47 2088889978 BERTEL March lz, 2002 To: City Counsel of Meridian From: Marion Bertel 2534 S. Velvet Falls Way Meridian, Idaho 83642 208-888-9978 Re: Parks in Meridian PAGE 01 ~ A~ x 8g8 - ~ a~~ RECE~VEI~ MAC 1 z ~ooz City of Meridian City Clerk Office , I appreciate the City Counsel dealing with this matter. The city of Meridian has had an explosion in population over the past ten years. Realizing that there are many costs because of this may require some measures- The homeowners and the businesses that have moved into Meridian are required to pay impact fees, as well as taxes. Homeowners have made their LARGEST investment in their homes in Meridian in the hopes of staying there. The City of Meridian has gotten behind Ada Courrty Highway District to improve the infiastructure. It is my feeling that the Developers who come to make a profit, not to live, in the City of Meridian should do their share. After all, they do share in the profits of the gmwth of Meridian In order to see that Meridian keeps the growth in balance, we desperately need parks, bike trails, walking paths, open green space along with the development. The homeowners moved to this community to be in a nice town that still had rural areas, which are quickly disappearing. To keep that balance the only other place to turn is to ask Developers to carry their share of the cost, as well as their share of the profit. It is my proposal that Developers be required to install park areas at a rate of 10% of the area that they develop. Then after development of parks etc (with playgrounds for children and walking trails) the parks would be turned over to the City of Meridian for ownership and maintenance. 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Nary 33 EAST IDAHO Keith Bird Iv1ERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642 Tammy deWeerd (208) 686-4433 • Fax (20B) 587-4813 Cherie McCandless City Clerk Office Fex (208) B88-421 B NOTICE OF SPECIAL MEETING MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL LEGAL DEPARTMENT czos> 2sa-2499 • ~ 2sa-2so- PUBLIC WORKS (208) 898.5500 • Fax 867-1297 BUILDING DEPARTMENT (208) 887.2211 • Pas B87-1297 PLANNING AND ZONING (208) 88x5533 • Fax 568-6854 NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of Meridian will hold a Special Meeting at City Hall, 33 East Idaho, Meridian, Idaho, on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 5:30 P.M. This meeting will include the following agenda items: ordinance for offiaal city newspaper public hearing on the proposed Comprehensive Parks and Recreation System and Action Plan for the City of Meridian. The public is welcome to attend. DATED this ,,~ •~; {; s ur~.9J ' T• s•, G ~ .! ,,;a, ~'. .,;. •~ /y''ir.- WILLIAM G. BERG, JR. 1 CLERK ~Qase St r l~~-hGc' ~ / HUB OF TREASURE VALLEY MAYOR LEGAL DEPARTMENT Robert D. Come A Good Place to Live (208) 288-2499 • Fax 288-2501 CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS CITY OF MERIDIAN PUBLIC WORKS William L. M. Nary 33 EAST IDAHO (208) 898-5500 • Fax 887-1297 Keith Bird MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642 BUILDING DEPARTMENT (208) 888-4433 • Fax (208) 887-4813 (208) 887-2211 • Fax 887-1297 Tammy deWeerd PLANNING AND ZONING Cherie McCandless City Clerk Office Fax (208) 888-4218 (208) 884.5533 • Fax 888-6854 NOTICE OF SPECIAL MEETING MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of Meridian will hold a Special Meeting at City Hall, 33 East Idaho, Meridian, Idaho, on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 5:30 P.M. This meeting will include the following agenda items: ordinance for official city newspaper public hearing on the proposed Comprehensive Parks and Recreation System and Action Plan for the City of Meridian. The public is welcome to attend. ~`~ti. `~, ~ y~. ... DATED this nth t''Mdf~~ 002~R . +~ ti w M ii~~~. ~4r '~ J''' '~ , k~., ~ ~..`'~ ~~ ., WILLIAM G. BERG, JR. I CLERK ** TX CONFIRMR~ REPORT ** AS OF MAR 08 '0~7~20 PAGE.01 CITY OF MERIDIRN DATE TIME TOiFROM MODE MINiSEC PGS CMDtt STATUS 02 03108 17 20 CHAMBER-COMMERCE ----S 00'00" 000 031 BUSY -------------- THIS DOCUMENT IS STILL IN MEMORY --------------------------------------------------- ------------------------- `I~Cectse lost ,~or I~~.hG~~ ~~~e ~ Lha~~s/ NUB OF TREASURE VALLEY MAYOR A Good Place 10 Live LEGAL DEPARTMENT Robert D. Corrie (208) 288-2499 • Pax 288-2501 CITY QF MERIDIAN PUBLIC WORKS CITY COUNCIL MEMBE RS (208) 898.5500 • Fax 887.1297 William L M. Nary 33 EAST IDAHO Keith gird MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642 BUlLD1NG DEPARTMENT (208) 887.2211 • Pas 887-1297 Tammy deWeerd (208) 886.4433 • Fax (208) 887-4813 Ch ri M dl C ~tY Clerk Office Fax (208) 688-4218 PLANNING AND ZONING e e c an ess (208) 884-5533 • Fax 888.6854 NOTICE OF SPECIAL MEETING MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of Meridian will hold a Special Meeting at City Hall, 33 East Idaho, Meridian, Idaho, on Tuesday March 12, 2002 at 5:30 P.M. This meeting will inGude the following agenda items: ordinance for official aty newspaper public hearing on the proposed Compreh®nsive Parks and Recreation System and Action Plan for the City of Meridian. The public is welcome to attend. DATED this '~j - ,; S u~:a~3.L fS _ w f - • ~,~jC.C 9. ~/ =~ y y ~~';•:; ,i ,'~~ , ~ ., WILLIAM G. BERG, JR. I CLERK ** TX CONFIRMATION REPORT ** AS OF MAR 08 '02 1?~1? PAGE.01 CITY OF MERIDIAN DATE TIME TO/FROM MODE MIN/SEC PGS CMDt# STATUS 03 03/08 16 44 3810160 EC--S 00'31" 001 031 OK 04 03/08 16 45 PUBLIC WORKS OF--S 00'13" 001 031 OK 05 03/08 16 46 2088881193 EC--S 00'22" 001 031 OK 06 03/08 164? 8841159 EC--S 00'22" 001 031 OK 0? 03/08 16 48 2088840744 EC--S 00'22" 001 031 OK 08 03/08 16=49 208 898 5501 EC--S 00'22" 001 031 OK 09 03/08 16 50 LIBRARY EC--S 00'25" 001 031 OK 10 03/08 16 51 2083??6449 EC--S 00'22" 001 031 OK 11 03/08 16 52 208 388 6924 EC--S 00'25" 001 031 OK 12 03/08 16 53 888 6854 EC--S 00'23" 001 031 OK 13 03/08 16 54 2083?5?154 EC--S 00'22" 001 031 OK 14 03/08 16 55 2083362100 EC--S 00'30" 001 031 OK 15 03/08 16 56 8950390 EC--S 00'22" 001 031 OK 16 03/08 16 58 208 38? 6393 EC--S 00'22" 001 031 OK 1? 03/08 16 59 CHERIE MCCANDLES EC--S 00'26" 001 031 OK 18 03/08 17 00 CHERRY LANE EC--S 00'25" 001 031 OK 19 03/08 1?~01 POST OFFICE EC--S 00'30" 001 031 OK 20 03/08 1?~02 IDAHO ATHLETIC C EC--S 00'25" 001 031 OK 21 03/08 1?~03 Walter R Johnson EC--S 00'22" 001 031 OK 22 03/08 17 03 208 46? 9562 EC--S 00'25" 001 031 OK 23 03/08 17 04 208 888 6700 EC--S 00'22" 001 031 OK 2? -------- 03/08 --- 17 09 208884507? EC--S 00'22" 001 031 OK ---- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ~I,G~G(c5~ ~OS~ ,~pr ~G~-bJGiC 71v~ic~. - LGI~1~s/ NUB OF TREASURE VALLEY MAYOR LEGAL DEPARTMENT Robert D. Cowie p Gppd pace [o Live (208) 288-Za99 • Pax 288-2501 1*V,~~1 I 1~~TI ~~~~ O~ 1 • ~~~j , PUBLIC wORRS CITY COUNCI L MEMBE RS (208) 898.5500 • Faz 887-1297 William L. M. Nary 33 EAST IDAHO Keith Bird MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642 BUILDING DEPARTMENT (208) 887.2211 • Psx 687-1297 Tammy deweerd (ZOS) 886-4433 • Fax (208) 587-4813 Ch ri M C dl City Clerk Office Fax (208) B8B-4218 PLANNING AND ZONING e e c an ess (208) 884.5533 • Fax S68.68Sa NOTICE OF SPECIAL MEETING MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of Meridian