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February 18, 1997
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Bentley: So we don't have to go through this again r9ext time, what time frame are we
looking at for the sunset?
Morrow: Well 1 would think, I want to think it through a little bit and talk to Wayne about
it. It seems to me like the sunset clause has got to have something that discusses the
hook ups being in a timely manner with the two projects that we are dealing with now. I
do not want Builders Masonry to hold either ane of those projects hostage nor do I want
those projects to hold Builders Masonry hostage. So whatever verbiage it takes to get
to that point is how we have to get there. .
Corrie: Any further discussion? All those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #9: FINAL PLAT: LOS ALAMITOS N0. 3 SI~BDIVISION, 58 LOTS EAST OF
LOS ALAMITOS N0. 2 BY FARWEST DEVELOPERS:
Corrie: Is there any representative from Los Alamitos here this evening?
Bowcutt: Becky Bowcutt from Briggs Engineering.
Corrie: Any questions on your final plat, anything that you want to tell us?
Bowcutt: We did receive the comments from the City Engineer's office, I did write out a
memo to Bruce Freckleton and faxed that over to him and Shari addressing each
question and item that they brought forward.
Corrie: Shari did you get a copy of that, did Council get copies of it?
Morrow: So far I haven't found it in my packet.
Rountree: Did you get confirmation on your fax?
Bowcutt: Yes I did, I called, I got confirmation. 1 was kind of late in faxing it, t have, been
out. I .kind had what Mr. Crookston has, we have the same voice. It was faxed to my
office on Friday, I was out ill on Friday, Monday was a holiday, I called and talked with
Shari today and she faxed it to me immediately when we realized I didn't have it. And
then I answered it, so t was late in getting my response to the City Engineer's office. If
you would like to me to go through these I can address them quickly.
Corrie: Council, what is your pleasure, do you want her to go through them?
Morrow. Well I guess, these are technical issues that our staff needs to deal with. My
preference would be to have their concurrence and have them review it and say okay it
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is fine or it isn't fine. And for something that is not fine then the two of your are able
negotiators you can handle the issue (inaudible).
Bowcutt: I think in reading through these Mr. Mayor and Mr. Morrow, there were not any
items that I would call critical. Most of them were just some technical things verbiage
changes on notes. The only item that I thought was of importance was the issue of
Nampa Meridian Irrigation District and putting a separate lot for the Hunters lateral on
our plat. My response to them was that I was told to do that by Nampa Meridian but
after meeting with John Anderson at our irrigation committee he indicated in that
meeting that the board had to concur with that And so my response reflected that. So I
believe the irrigation issue is the only critical thing is that a separate lot can be placed
in an easement, how does Nampa Meridian want to handle that. Are they going to own
it and maintain it and that I believe I can work out with the staff.
Rountree: I have one question of Becky, on the ptat notes number 5 it says lot 10 block
9 is dedicated to the City of Meridian for a school site.
Bowcutt: That is correct
Rountree: Then staff s review of the engineering indicates that lot 10, Block 9 is to be
under a blankef easement to Ada County Highway District for heavy duty maintenance
of drainage facilities. How is that going to vwrk?
Bowcutt: No, I believe they, they are talking about the drainage lot. The drainage lot is
lot 20, block 10. I think that was an error, they are referencing the wrong lot. We don't
have any drainage facilities on the school lot. .
Rountree: The other question then I would have about 10 block 9 will that have a
perimeter fence and will provisions be made fof leveling that site and is the ownership
really to the City of Meridian or to the Meridian School District?
Bowcutt: In the previous hearings on other parcels that had this school lot reserved out
of their property the indication was the City of Meridian wanted the property dedicated
to them. That if it was to be utilized for an elerreentary school the City would transfer title
therefore to the school district. If the school district decided not to utilize it then the City
would have it for a park. Bu they felt more comfortable keeping it within the City. The
Sundance Subdivision to the north that was dedicated to Meridian school District who
then in turn dedicated it to the City of Meridian when the high school site was
purchased.
Rountree: How about the fencing?
Bowcutt: The perimeter fencing I don't believe that has been discussed. They are
under their development agreement and under the ordinance they have got to fence
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their perimeter and there is a statement in Bruce's comments. You are talking would
they fence the perimeter like the southerly perimeter of the school.
Rountree: Actually I am more concerned about the subdivision lots that back up to lot
10.
Bowcutt: I would assume that Shari would impose the same req~uirerr~ents on perimeter
fencing wouldn't you? You guys don't allow building permits to be issued until they get
their perimeter fencing. Then it is also indicated that the Ridenbaugh shall be fenced
with non-combustible, both sides of the Hunter lateral even though piped would have to
be fenced. I would assume the perimeter fencing requirement listed in the
requirements would apply to the rear of those lots. I think if it is on record and Mr.
Goldsmith's attorney is here tonight also monitoring (inaudible). I will make sure Mr.
Goldsmith is aware that will be required. As far as leveling that your other question
there has been no discussion on leveling that or filling it. I haven't really walked that
piece, I know there is an elevation difference.
Rountree: Those are the only questions I had on the plat.
Stiles: Were you indicating that you would fence along the back of those lots?
Bowcutt: That back up to the school lot we call it.
Stiles: Yes, and then there is also a pedestrian 20 foot pedestrian walk way that they
would need to fence.
Rountree: That is in your comments.
Stiles: We want to make sure that was done so it doesn't end up as a lot clearance lot.
Bowcutt: Okay, it said in there either construct or bond with the City.
Stiles: They would need to be constructed prior to building permits.
Corrie: Thank you, any further questions from Council to Becky?
Morrow: Mr. Mayor, as a point of discussion, I don't have a problem wi#h approving the
final plat subject to the staff sign off. Obviously Gary, Shari and WII are not going to
sign off on that plat until such time that they are satisfied that the conditions are going
to be met. I have good confidence in their abilities, Ms. Bovwcutt is an abled
representative of in this case both Mr. Goldsmith and the City of Meridian. She is well
aware of what it is we do and what we would like. My one concern that I would like to
see addressed and Councilman Bentley raises a good issue in terms of the leveling or
the condition of the school lot. I think what I want to see there is something that is
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leveled, it is not a dumping ground for excess concrete and those kinds of things so
that we as a City can maintain the lot and keep the weeds down with the equipment
that we have or soon will have. I think that as for you Mr. McColl and Ms. Bowcutt that
your client needs to be aware of that and that from my perspective any motion to
approve the final plat would have that within the motion so that the taxpayers of
Meridian are not paying to fix up something that should be in good shape to begin with.
Those would be my thoughts concerning it. I do think the staff is capable of handling
this or more than capable of handling it. I would like to see the leveling issue
addressed in the motion.
Rountree: That is what I was thinking when I brought it up. That we don't need to inherit
a problem.
Morrow: Good thinking
Rountree: If you want to make that motion I will second it.
Morrow: So I will make the motion that we approve the final plat for Los Alamitos No. 3
Subdivision by Farwest Developers subject to the satisfactory meeting of the
requirements of all staff and agencies and subject to the school site/park site lot being
in a level clean manner with capable of being maintained by a mower system.
Rountree: Second
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow to approve the final- plat of Los Alamitos No. 3
Subdivision subject to staff approval of sign off and the condition of the school lots as
discussed in the point of discussion, any further comments? Hearing none, all those in
favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #10: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR
A GROUP DAY CARE FOR 12 CHILDREN BY PATRICIA REED:
Corrie: At this time I will open the public hearing and invite either Patricia Reed or a
representative to come forward first.
Patricia Reed, 2167 Jericho Way, Meridian, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Reed: I wanted to comment that I already have my certificate of occupancy and I
brought my day care license tonight. I don't know if you need to see these or not.
Corrie: I don't know whether they do or not, we will just hold them in case they do.
Comments from staff?