Loading...
HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutesr • Meridian City Council Meeting June 15, 1999 Page 43 Corrie: Motion is to have the attorney draw up the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law and development agreement for the rezone of .323 acres by Matthew and Danita Hartz. Any further discussion? Hearing none, roll call vote. ROLL CALL VOTE: ROUNTREE, YEA. ANDERSON, YEA. BENTLEY, YEA. BIRD, YEA. MOTION CARRIED: ALL YEAS. 18. FINAL PLAT FOR MAWS NO.3 SUBDIVISION (7 BUILDING LOTS) BY TEALEY'S LAND SURVEYING-NORTH OF PINE & WEST OF LOCUST GROVE RD: Corrie: Staff report, Shari? Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, hopefully you have our comments that are dated June 11t", 1999 because of the lateness of our comments, we did not ask for a written response. We would like the issues of pressurized irrigation to be addressed. I don't think that was ever finalized and also the other item that may be of concern is we have requested the copy of the Ada County Highway District's storm drainage easement. They're showing a 30 foot easement. Typically those easements are not encroachable. if that were the case, it would not be a usable area and should not be included as part of a lot. It should be a separate lot. They do show that five feet of the 30 feet encroaching on to a buildable lot. Those are the major items that we would ask that the applicant's representative respond ta. Corrie: Is the applicant here tonight? Yes, sir. Pavelek: Mr. Mayor and Council, my name is Richard Pavelek. I'm with Tealey's Land Surveying. We have offices at 915 W. Jefferson in Boise. I do have a response to the two issues. The first one if I could approach I have a letter from Nampa Meridian Irrigation District. Bird: What's the date on this letter? 1 can't read it. Pavelek: I'm sorry. This came in the latter part of May. It was faxed to me June 4t" and it was a response to an inquiry made by Mr. Gregory regarding the irrigation. This is not exactly clearly what we had hoped to get from Nampa Meridian, but in the start of the second paragraph, it clearly states there is no currently operating capacity. This letter is actually the second inquiry. Mr. Gregory did in fact contact the developer of Danbury to inquire whether or not there would be water available for Maws No. 3 and was told that there would not be. I think if you look at paragraph three, what Nampa Meridian is • • Meridian City Council Meeting June 15, 1999 Page 44 proposing is an LID for the purpose of expanding the facility. The chances of this happening are probably slim to none. If this condition of pressurized irrigation is maintained in this plat, it's very unlikely will be able to complete the conditions of approval. Now if we go back to the earlier discussions on this issue. Maws 1 and 2 under the ordinances the Meridian ordinances at the time applied for the fees for granted irrigation exclusions and they paid the well development fees. We went through the records and we found that to be the case. It's unclear to me as to whether or not the fees in fact were paid for this phase vacant land or not. But the facts are that for us to try and satisfy this condition through a series of third parties form a local improvement district to fund improvements to off site facilities controlled by other is just not going to happen and so 1 think we would be frustrated if the condition is maintained. I would ask that this condition be removed. The other condition I believe I looked at the plat, and I didn't have a copy with me earlier when I saw this, but I believe the reference is in fact to a private drain that was located during the construction of phases one and two and it passes between the lots. It is not a highway district drain. It's a drain that runs under the property. It was maintained. Is that not true? That was my understanding of that facility. The only facility that I was aware of that was for -this is condition number 15 that I'm referring to. It refers to lot 33. Lot 33 is in the middle of the project. Pardon? Do you have a copy of the plat so I can take a look at it again? I think what may have happened is when I looked back on it, 1 was looking at the preliminary plat. If the numbers have changed, then I'm in error. That issue we'll be happy to deal with the highway district, so I'm not concerned about that one. When 1 first saw that, I thought there is an existing private drain that runs underneath the middle part of the project, and I thought that was what you were referring to so we'll deal with that condition number 15. The only change that we would request is the irrigation condition, condition 11. Gigray: Mr. Mayor and members of the Council, just a point of information. You may want to seek clarification both from the applicant as welt as from staff as to whether or not the relief requested here by the applicant here on the condition number 11 would require them to file an application for a variance, which if that were the case they may want to request that you table this platting until they file that application so you can have a hearing on the variance to determine whether or not -what circumstances you're going to grant the final approval of the plat. I mean you may want to address staff on these issues and the applicant as well. So they can respond, but I just raise those questions. Pavelek: Mr. Mayor, it's my understanding that when a subdivision starts out in terms of platting process that certain conditions are established and certain rules are established which it is developed under, and if you are form continuity of development, once you start under a set of rules, that you would enjoy those rules throughout the life of the project. There are many things that can happen in terms of the specifics of development. We are meeting all the ordinance requirements in terms of the setbacks and everything else, but it's a fundamental question in terms of how this project was • • Meridian City Council Meeting June 15, 1999 Page 45 serviced. It was recognized, it was done within the ordinance of the time and developed accordingly the services were set up. This is one tha# a decision was made in the early two phases that preclude the ability for us to in fact provide a pressurized irrigation which is not now currently required. It would be my feeling that a variance would not be required because this is apre-existing condition within the development of this parcel of land. Therefore would not be subject to that. If in fact it's determined legally and I'm not a legal mind, but I guess I've looked at various land use applications and my observation is when an issue like this comes up that there are certain grandfather rights that are enjoyed in terms of the development. The developer relied and counted on the decisions that were made. He's followed through and all the items that he has been asked to with this one exception in terms of this earlier series of decisions now make it impossible for him to proceed with this condition so if legal counsel in fact does determine that a variance is needed we will step back, we'll ask for a variance and proceed, however from my view point in this circumstance a variance is not required because of the conformance of the subdivision at the time that it was presented to Council and previous phases were in fact approved on that basis. Corrie: Staff comments? Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, this project is not part of a previously approved project. The preliminary plat has come in in the last year. In fact, I don't know if it's fortunately or unfortunately, I wasn't here when Maws No. 1 & 2 came through, in their applications they submitted they did indicate that there was pressurized irrigation, they marketed the project as having irrigation, I received numerous complaints from people within the subdivision that the pressurized irrigation was never completed, and in fact after the approval of the preliminary plats far No. 1 & 2 the Developer opted to go to Nampa- Meridian and exclude himself from having water rights. Perhaps if an LID is needed they should go back to 1 & 2 and get the - I'm sure those people would enjoy having the pressurized irrigation that was promised to them when they bought the lots, but as far as this having any grandfather rights, none exist in my opinion. The ordinance that existed at the time, is the same one that exists today, I don't know if it was actual ordinance that said lots could pay a certain amount, they did accept certain dollar amount at that time for lots within the subdivision to pay into the well development fund but as far as I know there have been no changes to the Zoning & Development Ordinance & Subdivision Development Ordinance that would indicate that they have any kind of grandfather rights. The way the ordinance reads now it basically says if they want to build a well for the City and put it on line or pay for all the materials to put it on line, then the requirement for pressurized irrigation could be waived. Pavelek: Mr. Mayor, I'll try and find before the evening is over basically records from the City of Meridian, the Developer does not pay Nampa-Meridian for the exclusion of the pressurized irrigation. They paid the City of Meridian and if I can I'll try and find the receipts for the payment to the City of Meridian for exclusion. • • Meridian City Council Meeting June 15, 1999 Page 46 Bird: Exclusion from what? Pavelek: The requirement of pressurized irrigation. At one point, the City of Meridian, the ordinance gave the option to the Developer of either to provide pressurized irrigation or to essentially buy out of it. In this case, the Developer paid the City of Meridian well development fees to in fact be excluded from providing irrigation to individual lots within the development. It was an agreement between City of Meridian and the Developer. In 1993 that's what the ordinance provided and I'll try my best to find the receipts that we in fact got out of the Treasurer's files for that purpose. Bird: Mr. Mayor, the problem is that this is a new subdivision which is out of the new plat, which is Maws No. 3, which in your preliminary plat required you to have to get a variance so that if you didn't have pressurized irrigation, disregarding the other two subdivisions so I think that maybe we need to table this for a week and let people get some receipts and stuff and get down to the bottom of this. Pavelek: Mr. Mayor, what I have found so far is a letter, a resolution, excluding the property from irrigation from Nampa-Meridian. There is a letter there of exclusion. Bird: That's from Nampa-Meridian. Pavelek: That's from Nampa-Meridian and I'll find basically -I'll find the receipts that we had been given previously from the City of Meridian's files, in fact I just found them. (Inaudible) Pavelek: It all goes back to basically the land base associated, and this is basically the conclusion from Nampa-Meridian. Corrie: This is from 1993, correct? Bird: This one's 1992 here. Pavelek: I guess I was not involved in 1992 or 1993 of this like Ms. Stiles and possibly would have done it differently but the fact is is that the Developer entered into a series of understandings both with Nampa-Meridian as well as with the City of - I'm sorry, Nampa-Meridian Irrigation District as welt as the City of Meridian and we have basically the hole in the donut and we have no way of providing water to that hole at this point and time either for water rights or for availability. Our only avenue would be in fact a very unsure process of an LID and in the three weeks since we've contacted Nampa- Meridian there has been no further action - (end of tape) there is - if there's a request for a variance that's required we wilt make a request and present that to you for your consideration. • • Meridian City Council Meeting June 15, 1999 Page 47 Bird: Mr. Mayor, I'm thinking these things that you know, preliminary plat for No. 3, 1 and 2 disregard it, they're done with, states that if they are not going to put in pressurized irrigation they've got to come back in for a variance before the City Council. I think it's pretty clear for the preliminary plat. Rountree: Mr. Mayor, the way the current ordinance reads is the only way we can waive the requirement for the pressurized irrigation system if they'll commit to doing a well, etc., etc., as Shari explained so it seems to me the variance would be the only option and then have to demonstrate justification for the variance. Gigray: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, point of information for your consideration. It seems to me that the issue on this final plat is down to this item #11 whether pressurized irrigation is required under the present ordinance. A variance would be required, I don't know whe#her they can prove factually that they had this particular application in the hopper before the ordinance was changed. I would agree that they are entitled to the rights of the ordinances that exist at the time they make their application but Idon't -you know without facts as to whether or not Maws No. 1 & 2 included this real property I wouldn't know what the answer to that question is. Secondly, if they have already paid a well development fee that would somehow (inaudible} to not have to comply with the pressurized irrigation and some evidence has been produced this evening, it seems to me that in the interest of insuring that we have good evidence that this matter ought to be continued to allow that evidence to be reviewed so that the staff can respond as to whether or not it was or was not a payment that would exempt them. I also suggest tha# a continuance would be in order so that the Developer can determine whether or not on their own they feel that #hey need to make an application for a variance because I don't think the City Council should tell them you have to make a variance or not, I think the City Council's action will be that you're either going to require the condition of final plat approval or you're not, they can decide whether or not they need a variance or not and if they don't feel that legally they're required to and that they're somehow exempted from this requested condition, certainly they should be given an opportunity to prove their case but I think you need to have a forum where that can be done and then the staff would be in a position to respond to their evidence which it doesn't seem to me that people are prepared to do this evening. Bentley: I would agree. I think that we need to take some time on this and let the staff work through it and have the gentlemen with the application see if they can pull together the information that is needed so I'd be prepared to offer a motion to table this until 7/6/99. Bird: You're tabling the public hearing until 7/6/99? Bentley: Well this isn't a public hearing, it's a final plat. s • Meridian City Council Meeting June 15, 1999 Page 48 Bentley: So I would move we table this until 7/6/99. Bird: Second. Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Bentley, second by Mr. Bird to table till July 6, 1999 the final plat on Maws No. 3 Subdivision in order to give the staff and the applicant time to pull together the recommendations and conditions. Any further discussion Mr. Rountree? Rountree: I guess I just don't see where we're going with that. What we did in the past, we did in the past, this is a new proposal, a new subdivision, we don't have provisions in our ordinance any more to accept well development fees, apparently we haven't for a number of years, given the ordinance book the back part of 1992 maybe. It seems to me the direction it needs to go is a variance needs to be requested by the applicant and the Council needs to act on a variance not what we did in the past, unless we're desirous to make up some rules as we go on the deal. Bentley: Mr. Mayor, I'm not desirous to make up rules as we go, all I want to do is get the results and if the gentleman has some kind of proof that this was tied to the other two then we need to have that come forth. I guess to speed it up we could take and just Rountree: Well it seems to me that the variance is the way to go and at least that keeps them moving forward and if they can provide evidence as it relates to the question of the variance that they paid money for this particular development in the past then the variance wouldn't apparently be required. It was stated here this evening though that it wasn't known. That clouds hung over this thing since it came in here. There was some other folks that represented the applicant originally that were emphatic that we paid it, now we're here at the final stages and we don't know, I don't know that we're ever going to know, if you look at those receipts you sure can't tell. The issue is the elimination of their rights to water with Nampa-Meridian irrigation is an issue between them and Nampa-Meridian Irrigation no# the City of Meridian, though it does relate to Maws No. 3 according to the letter but that's not anything we even deal with so I don't know, just for the applicant to think once they move forward -he's either going to have to get a variance or we're going to have to deal with that question of did we accept well development fees for this phase of the project or not and the question I have was that even doable? Apparently it must have been at some point and time but I guess I agree with tabling the action on the final plat but I think that the course of action is that we look at a variance. Anderson: I guess I ultimately agree with you, it might be a variance but I guess I'd like to at least give the staff time to look and see if there was anything that tied this into those other two phases and if there was any guarantees or anything made and if there's • • Meridian City Council Meeting June 15, 1999 Page 49 any documentation to support and (inaudible) a tabling and if they work out that it's not tied in then at that meeting at the 6h then we'll be looking at a variance. Rountree: The applicant needs to know that in sufficient time so it can be noticed Pavelek: Mr. Mayor, if I could just speak very briefly. It is a confusing issue and it's frustrating for everybody concerned but this was a single piece of property, under one ownership and there was a series of plats that moved through from preliminary to final. One property. And every time you launch off a piece of the property it goes through the system. There haven't been any time frames that we haven't met in terms of the submission so even though we didn't submit a preliminary plat for the whole property at any given time we went through a submission, preliminary, final, phase 1. We carved off a portion of the property for that subdivision, we went to the next one and now we're coming back for the final one. There isn't anything in the ordinance that deals with the time that's gone on but we basically have one parcel and to my thinking there is some continuity established in terms of how this thing was developed. If there were more than a number of parcels, if another parcel was brought in that had nothing to do with the original parcel I would agree but this it totally an independent application having nothing to do with the previous phases but this is one parcel that has moved through the system and therefore I do believe that this is a legal point, however, I can spend a bunch of time, Mr. Gigray can spend a bunch of time, and I'm not sure we'll get anywhere, and the same thing is the analysis, the receipts, clearly money was paid in for well development fees, in light of the owners they feel that they paid for the entire property and I don't know whether they can argue it right or wrong, I know staff has got their opinion and the client has theirs. I would like to move ahead and get this thing resolved. It's a small subdivision, it needs to go on, we've been at it now for nearly a year and we think we have outside of this one condition, a viable subdivision. With this condition we don't have a viable condition, it's that simple. If you want me to prepare an application for variance I'll do that and get it into you as quickly as I can. Corrie: We have a motion before the Council whether to table this until July 6th till staff can -till we can all get together. I don't think we're going to answer the question here tonight and I think everybody here is - (inaudible) good questions and good answers here so -Gary? Smith: Mr. Mayor, maybe a little history here on the well development fees. That was an alternative that had been offered to some developments and it was offered at the time that the final plats were approved and any well development fees were paid on the basis of the final plats and so I can almost guarantee you without doing any research that there were no well development fees paid on this piece of property. This piece of property came about after the preliminary plat for phases 1 and 2 was approved and the final plats for 1 and 2 were approved and then the Council felt that it was important enough to develop pressurized irrigation systems that they went away from the well • • Meridian City Council Meeting June 15, 1999 Page 50 development fee concep#. I don't recall what the ordinance says specifically towards that. I do remember that the ordinance is much more strict on requirements for alternatives than what the previous Council had required in terms of what Shari had mentioned actually providing a well for the City or materials for a well, a domestic well for the City which is a substantial investment and so I think the well development fees was a spin off from the requirements of the ordinance and much more lenient than the actual requirements of the ordinance at that time, but it was an alternative at one time for final plats. Anderson: Mr. Mayor, I guess in light of that information, if Gary feels that confident that it wasn't part of it then the only choice would be a variance so I guess I would be leaning towards instructing that come back for a variance at the next meeting. Corrie: We need to take care of the motion. The motion was to table item #18 until July 6, 1999. Any further discussions on that motion? Hearing none. All those in favor of tabling item #18 till July 6, 1999 say aye. Opposed? Anderson: Can I get clarification. I was listening to the discussion and some people were talking about tabling it and some were talking about continuing. What is it? Rountree: It would be tabled, it's a final plat. Corrie: An aye vote would mean that you table it until July 6~", a nay vote that you would not table it until July 6t". Those in favor of tabling until July 6, 1999 on the final plat say aye. Opposed no? MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. Corrie: Item #18 is tabled till July 6, 1999. 19. FINAL PLAT FOR SUE'S SUBDIVISION (6 BUILDING LOTS) BY MIKE STIPA - NORTH OF BROADWAY AVE., SOUTH OF PINE, WEST OF W. 4T": Corrie: Staff, comments on the final plat? Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, this is for a subdivision that was also known as Meridian Acres at one time. I hate to bring up the issue of pressurized irrigation. We do have evidence from them that they do not have surface water supply available and they've agreed to pay the well development fees in lieu of that pressurized irrigation. I don't know if that's an ordinance or where that came from. The Public Works Department analyzed it and based on the amount of the square footage of the land they will have in landscaping and maybe Gary can clarify, since it is below the half acre - I don't know if ~" ~ ~ ~ MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL MEETING AUGUST 17, 1999 PAGE 9 Rountree: Second. Corrie: Motion is made and seconded that we approve L. Kent Brown as one of the Planning and Zoning Commissioners. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor, let's do a roll call vote to make sure we have it right. ROLL CALL: ANDERSON, YEA. ROUNTREE, YEA. BENTLEY, YEA. BIRD, YEA. MOTION CARRIED: ALL YEAS. Corrie: Kent, you have been approved by City Council. Anderson: I hope you know what you're getting into. Rountree: You'll find out if it's worth a turkey or not. Corrie: The next appointee would be Richard C. Hatcher, Jr., who is the architect with Lombard Conrad. Bird: Mr. Mayor, I move that we approve Richard C. Hatcher, Jr. to the Planning and Zoning Commission. Bentley: Second. Corrie: Motion is made and second that we approve Richard C. Hatcher, Jr. as a member of the Planning and Zoning Commission. Any further discussion? Hearing none, roll call vote. ROLL CALL: BIRD, YEA. BENTLEY, YEA. ANDERSON, YEA. ROUNTREE, YEA. MOTION CARRIED: ALL YEAS. Corrie: Richard C. Hatcher, Jr. is approved and is on the Planning and Zoning Commission. Congratulations to both of you. Kent, glad you're here tonight. 4. TABLED 8/3/99: FINAL PLAT FOR MAWS NO. 3 SUBDIVISION (7 BUILDING LOTS) BY TEALEY'S LAND SURVEYING-NORTH OF PINE & WEST OF LOCUST GROVE RD: Corrie: We have here Council a variance that's coming in on item number 14, and I think that we probably should have the variance Findings of Fact and Conclusions of f s s MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL MEETING AUGUST 17, 1999 PAGE 10 Law and Order presented to you before you do the final plat on Maws 3 Subdivision. Is this correct, Mr. Gigray? Gigray: That's correct. Corrie: I would ask that you table this until the meeting of September 7th following the public hearing which will be on the variance. Bentley: Mr. Mayor, I move we table the final plat for Maws No. 3 until September 7, 1999. Bird: Second. Corrie: Motion made and second that we table the Maws final plat No. 3 Subdivision until September 7th, 1999 meeting. Any further discussion? Rountree: Mr. Mayor, the only comment I would make is if there are issues with the final plat, it would be nice if the applicant knew those now. He could be working on those concurrently with getting ready for the next hearing. I don't have any. I don't know if anybody else does and I don't know if staff has got any outstanding issues but if they're there we ought to let them know that. Corrie: Staff is there any outstanding conditions that you have there on that one? Siddoway: I know of no outstanding issues on the plat other than the variance itself and we were going to recommend the same. Corrie: Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor of the motion say aye. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. 5. TABLED 8/3/99: REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR WILKINS RANCH SUBDIVISION (89 BUILDING LOTS ON 27.86 ACRES) BY STEINER DEVELOPMENT LLC -SOUTH OF USTICK & WEST OFTEN MILE: Corrie: Council we have a problem here as well. I think this is a new plat and it's going to require a public hearing. I think it needs to be noticed in this case and also you can determine whether the City Council wants to hear this or refer it back to Planning and Zoning. Any comment Mr. Gigray? Gigray: No, I note that in the file there was a memo from Steve Rutherford to the Mayor and Council with regards to this particular matter. This had to do with the development agreement, but the development agreement would not be something that would be Meridian City Council Meeting August 3, 1999 Page 8 Rutherford: Well both should speak to it. But I don't have the Meridian City Code section that talks about that in front of me. I guess if you wanted to table this for a few minutes, I could go look at the Idaho Code in the library. Anderson: Can we do that? Can we table it and then come back to it? Corrie: Is that what you wish to do? Bird: Well we got a motion on the floor. Let's go ahead and vote. Bentley: Mr. Mayor if you go ahead and vote and we find out we've got to redo it, then we're going to have to redo it. Bird: Well we can redo it. I mean he can go look, but we got a motion on the floor for a vote. Corrie: That's correct. Bird: So let's have the question and then if we come to that we can have him run in and do it. Corrie: Question has been called for. Motion is to accept ordinance #835 with suspension of rules. ROLL CALL VOTE: ROUNTREE, NO. BIRD, NO. BENTLEY, YES. ANDERSON, YEA. Corrie: Okay, it's a two to two tie. Mr. Attorney would you please see where the code is. Bentley: Mr. Mayor, I would recommend that we skip over item number two until the attorney gets back with the information. Corrie: Do we have any objection from the Councilmen? Rountree: No. Anderson: I have none. Bird: I have none. 3. TABLED 7/6/99: FINAL PLAT FOR MAWS NO. 3 SUBDIVISION (7 BUILDING LOTS) BY TEALEY'S LAND SURVEYING-NORTH OF PINE & WEST OF LOCUST GROVE RD: Corrie: First report from staff. Is Shari here? There she is Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, this was previously tabled was partly as a result of a request by the applicant to table it until such time as a variance application is heard. The variance will not be heard until the Council's August 17~h meeting. That would be variance for the pressurized irrigation. Corrie: So in other words, August 17th meeting is when we need to do the final plat then? f ~ Meridian City Council Meeting August 3, 1999 Page 9 Stiles: Yes. Corrie: Okay. Anderson: Mr. Mayor, I would make a motion that we table this item then until the August 17th meeting. Rountree: Second. Corrie: Motion is made Mr. Anderson second by Mr. Rountree to table item number three on the final plat for Maws No. 3 Subdivision until August 17th meeting. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor of the motion say aye. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. 4. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW: REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A GROUP DAYCARE OF 6-12 CHILDREN BY VOANNA C. WARD D/B/A VO'S DAYCARE-924 E. 4T" STREET: Corrie: Council you have the conditional use permit Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law. Are there any discussion or questions of staff that you might have? Bentley: I have none. Bird: I have none. Corrie: Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion on the conditional use Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law. Bentley: Mr. Mayor I move we approve the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law and request for conditional use permit for a daycare of 6-12 children by Voanna Ward, Vo's Daycare. Anderson: I'll second that. Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Bentley second by Mr. Anderson to approve the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law on item number four. Any further discussion? Hearing none, roll call vote. ROLL CALL VOTE: ANDERSON, YEA. BENTLEY, YEA. BIRD, YEA. ROUNTREE, YEA. MOTION CARRIED: ALL YEAS. 5. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW: REQUEST FOR VARIANCE FROM 1,000 FOOT MAXIMUM BLOCK LENGTH FOR DEE JAY SUBDIVISION BY J-U-B ENGINEERS, INC -EAST OF STRATFORD DR & NORTH & SOUTH OF WATERTOWER LN: Corrie: You have the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law in front of you. Is there any discussion with staff?