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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2006-07-10 JointMERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL AND ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT COMMISSIONERS AND MERIDIAN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION SPECIAL JOINT MEETING /WORKSHOP AGENDA Monday, July 10, 2006 at 12:00 Noon ACHD Auditorium, 3775 Adams Street, Garden City, Idaho City of Meridian: Shaun Wardle Charlie Rountree Joe Borton Keith Bird Mayor Tammy de Weerd ACRD: Carol McKee Rebecca Arnold Sherry Huber David Bivens President John Franden MDC: Clarence Jones Keith Bird Jonathan Cecil Erik Oaas Ron Anderson ~_ Shaun Wardle Chairman Craig Slocum I Update on Split Corridor ACHD-Levihn -Timing with Ten Mile Interchange II Status .Report on Locust Grove Project ACHD-Mills - Stormwater Pond Site III Waltman Emergency Access Easement Meridian IV Update on Signal Tinning Plan ACHD-Little - Interim Signals V Update on CIP Process ACHD-Inselman VI "Lets Talk Traffic" Meridian-Mayor VII Downtown Streetscape Plan MDC Meridian City Council Special Joint Meeting with ACHD Commissioners &MDC -July 10, 2006 Page 1 of 1 All materials presented at public meetings shall become the property of the City of Meridian and ACHD. Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and / or hearings, please contact the Administrafive Office of ACHD at 387-6100 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting. • CITY OF MERIDIAN MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL AND ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT COMMISSIONERS AND MERIDIAN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION SPECIAL JOINT MEETING /WORKSHOP AGENDA Monday, July 10, 2006 at 12:00 Noon ACHD Auditorium, 3775 Adams Street, Garden City, Idaho City of Meridian: Shaun Wardle ~C_ Charlie Rountree ~C_ Joe Borton _~ Keith Bird Mayor Tammy de Weerd ACHD: Carol McKee ~~ Sherry Huber MDC: Rebecca Arnold David Bivens _~ President John Franden Clarence Jones _ C~ Keith Bird Jonathan Cecil Erik Oaas Ron Anderson ~ Shaun Wardle ~_ Chairman Craig Slocum I Update on Split Corridor ACHD-Levihn -Timing with Ten Mile Interchange C.,-~.~~.~,~fit~-~., Z„on8 ~~..? II Status Report on Locust Grove Project ACHD-Mills - Stormwater Pond Site III Waltman Em,,,e~~rg`ency Access Easement Meridian '/~~vl~G l~i1~v IV Update on Signal Timing Plan ACHD-Little - Interim Signals V Update on CIP Process ACHD-Inselman VI "Lets Talk Traffic" Meridian-Mayor ~- ~~~- ~~a~ $. !~ L. 7~~ L• ~ui /~ A ~~ a~-~d..t . ~',kv~ ~. 1Nli7ce f~,-, ~'raJ"~ Q VII Downtown Streetscape Plan MDC Meridian City Council Special Joint Meeting with ACHD Commissioners &MDC -July 10, 2006 Page 1 of 1 All materials presented at public meetings shall become the property of the City of Meridian and ACHD. Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and / or hearings, please contact the Administrative Office of ACHD at 387-6100 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting. C~ AGENDA JOINT MEETING -CITY OF MERIDIAN/ACRD COMMISSION & MERIDIAN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION July 10, 2006 12:00 p.m. ACHD Auditorium 3775 Adams Street, Garden City, Idaho I Update on Split Corridor a. Timing with Ten Mile Interchange II Status Report on Locust Grove Project a. Stormwater Pond Site III Waltman Emergency Access Easement IV Update on Signal Timing Plan a. Interim signals V Update on CIP Process VI `Let's Talk Traffic' VII Downtown Streetscape ACHD (Levihn)/Meridian ACHD (Mills)/Meridian Meridian ACHD (little) ACHD (Inselman) Mayor de Weerd Meridian Development Corp. (Introduction by Councilman Wardle) Meridian School Speed Zone Flashing Lights School Crossing Location Cross Street Chief Joseph Elementary Chateau Dr. Jericho Discovery Elementary Locust Grove Rd. Leighfield to School Property Linder Elementary Monaco Way Linder Meridian Elementary Meridian Rd. Carlton to Pine Meridian Elementary Pine Ave. Meridian to W. 2na Meridian High School Linder Rd. Pine to Washington Meridian High School Pine Ave. Linder to Rotan 1Vleridian Middle School W. ~a' St. South of Cherry Mountain View H.S. .Locust Grove Rd. Mastiff Peregrine Elementary Linder Rd. Greenhead to Waltman Sawtooth Middle School Linder Rd. Stone Valley LETS TALK TRAFFIC CITY OF MERIC~IAN ~i~~`(~) INCREASE COMM~.INICyA'T~l(:)N ABUU~T TRAFFIC:' ~t 1t(;).A~~~~ IMNR()VEMEN'T PItCIJIC'Y15~+ Meridian has traffic on its mind! Everyone is interested in traffic and what's being done to ease navigation and relieve congestion. In response to growing concerns, Meridian is committed to working with other local transportation and planning agencies to keep you apprised on upcoming road improvement projects and provide you with strategies for navigating Meridian more successfully. While we work hard with ACHD and ITD planning for Meridian's growth, it is hard to plan for the entire region's growth. Because of our central location in the valley, Meridian's roads are greatly impacted by the cross traffic of the entire Treasure Valley. Printed materials, news articles, and a series of open houses on the topic of traffic and roads will be part of this pro-active new communication effort. If you would like to be notified about this and other news and information about Meridian, please a-mail your contact information to: houstonsC~meridiancity.org READ THE CITY OF MERIDIAN'S NEW ONLINE COMMUNITY NEWSLETTER! www.meridiancity.org/newsletter ** TX CON~TION REPORT ** AS OF JUL 07 '0~~03 PRGE.01 CITY OF MERIDIAN DRTE TIME TO/FROM MODE M1N/SEC PGS CMD# STRTUS 01 07/07 15 47 P-RND-Z EC--S 00'23" 001 098 OK 02 07/07 15 48 FIRE DEPT EC--S 00'21" 001 098 OK 03 07/07 15 49 208 888 2682 EC--S 00'23" 001 098 OK 04 07/07 15 50 208 387 6393 EC--S 00'22" 001 098 OK 05 07/07 15 52 LAKEVIEW GOLFCOU G3--S 00'40" 001 098 OK 06 07/07 15 53 POST OFFICE EC--S 00'33" 001 098 OK 07 07/07 15 54 IDAHO ATHLETIC C EC--S 00'23" 001 098 OK 08 07/07 15 55 ID PRESS TRIBUNE EC--S 00'22" 001 098 OK 09 07/07 15 56 2088886701 EC--S 00'23" 001 098 OK 13 0?/07 16 01 ADA CTY DEVELMT EC--S 00'22" 001 098 OK 15 07/07 16 03 2088885052 EC--S 00'22" 001 098 OK p(~r~se `~d~-~ ~~ `~c~t~c. /lfl-fi~c~ - ~~>~zks ~ CITY OF MERIDIAN MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL AND ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT COMMISSIONERS AND MERIDIAN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION SPECIAL JOINT MEETING 1 WORKSHOP AGENDA Monday, July 10, 2006 at 12:00 Noon ACRD Auditorium, 3775 Adams Street, Garden City, Idaho City of Meridian: Shaun Wardle Charlie Rountree ACHD: Carol McKee Sherry Huber MDC: Joe Gorton Keith Bird Mayor Tammy de Weerd Rebecca Amold David Bivens President John Franden Clarence Jones Keith Bird Jonathan Cecil Erik Oaas Ron Anderson Shaun Wardle Chairman Craig Slocum I Update on Split Corridor ACHD-Levihn -Timing with Ten Mile Interchange II Status Report on Locust Grove Project ACHD-Mills - Stormwater Pond Site III Waltman Emergency Access Easement Meridian IV Update on Signal Timing Plan ACHD-Little -Interim Signals V Update on CIP Process ACHD-lnselman VI "Lets Talk Traffic' Meridian-Mayor VII Downtown Streetscape Plan MDC Meridian City Council Special Joint Meeting with ACHD Commissioners & MOC - July T 0, 2006 Page 7 of 7 All materials presented et public meetings shall become the property of the Cify of Meridian and ACHD. Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related fo documerns and / or hearings, please contact the Administrative ONlce of ACHD at 3B7-6100 of least 48 hours prior to the public meeting. ~O ~ ~ ~7'~ l~ l~~la-(,i, c, 1'1,~-~e~ -- ~ ~1 t~,n c~S CITY OF MERIDIAN MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL AND ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT COMMISSIONERS AND MERIDIAN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION SPECIAL JOINT MEETING /WORKSHOP AGENDA Monday, July 10, 2006 at 12:00 Noon ACHD Auditorium, 3775 Adams Street, Garden City, Idaho City of Meridian: Shaun Wardle Charlie Rountree ACHD: MDC: I I III Iv V VI Joe Borton Keith Bird Mayor Tammy de Weerd Carol McKee Rebecca Arnold Sherry Huber David Bivens President John Franden Clarence Jones Keith Bird Jonathan Cecil Erik Oaas Ron Anderson Shaun Wardle Chairman Craig Slocum Update on Split Corridor ACHD-Levihn -Timing with Ten Mile Interchange Status Report on Locust Grove Project - Stormwater Pond Site Waltman Emergency Access Easement Update on Signal Timing Plan - Interim Signals Update on CIP Process "Lets Talk Traffic" ACHD-Mills Meridian ACHD-Little ACHD-Inselman Meridian-Mayor VII Downtown Streetscape Plan MDC Meridian City Council Special Joint Meeting with ACHD Commissioners &MDC -July 10, 2006 Page 1 of 1 All materials presented at public meetings shall become the property of the City of Meridian and ACHD. Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and / or hearings, please contact the Administrative Office of ACHD at 387-6100 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting. ** TX CONF~ION REPORT ** DATE TIME TO/FROM 23 07/07 15 36 3810160 24 07/07 15 39 PUBLIC WORKS 25 07/07 15 40 8848723 26 07/07 15 41 WATER DEPT 27 07/07 15 42 2088840744 28 07/07 15 43 POLICE DEPT 29 07/07 15 44 8985501 30 07/07 15 45 LIBRARY 31 07/07 15 46 2083776449 32 07/07 15 46 3886924 AS OF JUL 07 '0~~47 PAGE.01 CITY OF MERIDIAN MODE MIN/SEC PGS EC--S 00'33" 001 EC--S 00'22" 001 EC--S 00'22" 001 EC--S 00'23" 001 EC--S 00'23" 001 EC--S 00'23" 001 EC--S 00'23" 001 EC--S 00'22" 001 EC--S 00'22" 001 EC--S 00'23" 001 CMD# STATUS 098 OK 098 OK 098 OK 098 OK 098 OK 098 OK 098 OK 098 OK 098 OK 098 OK PCea~s~. 20~~ ~~ `~~.~~~ ~~~~ - ~~r~ks i CITY OF MERIDIAN MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL AND ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY bISTRICT COMMISSIONERS AND MERIDIAN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION SPECIAL JOINT MEETING !WORKSHOP AGENDA Monday, July 10, 2006 at 12:00 Noon ACHD Auditorium, 3775 Adams Street, Garden City, Idaho City of Meridian: Shaun Wardle Joe Borton Charlie Rountree Keith Bird Mayor Tammy de Weerd ACRD: MDC: Carol McKee Rebecca Amold Sherry Huber David Bivens President John Franden Clarence Jones Keith Bird Jonathan Cecil Erik Oaas Ron Anderson Shaun Wardle Chairman Craig Slocum I Update on Split Corridor ACHD-Levihn -Timing with Ten Mile Interchange II Status Report on Locust Grove Project ACHD-Mills - Stormwater Pond Site III Waltman Emergency Access Easement Meridian IV Update on Signal Timing Plan ACHD-Little - Interim Signals V Update on CIP Process ACHD-lnselman VI "Lets Talk Traffic" Meridian-Mayor VII Downtown Streetscape Plan MDC Meridian City Counc/l Special Joint Meeting with ACHD Commissioners & MOC -July f 0, 2006 Page T of 7 Al! materials presented et public meetings shall become the property of the City of Meridian and ACRD. Anyone desiring aceommodaNon for disabilities related to documents and / or hearings, please contact the AdminlstreNve Office of ACHD at 367-6100 at feast 48 hours prior to the public meeting. r, ~. /~ ~:;; CITY OF I ~_~'l~l ~YlG~1GE"yl~ ~ ~ ~31 v IDAHO ~ ~ } 2~, C~~^e R ~~° TREggURE V AMY SINCE 1903 MAYOR Tammy de Weerd CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS Keith Bird Joseph W. Borton Charles M. Rountree Shaun Wardle CITY DEPARTMENTS City Attorney/HR 703 Main Street 898-5506 (City Attorney) 898-5503 (HR) Fax 884-8723 Fire 540 E. Franklin Road 888-1234/fax 895-0390 Parks & Recreation 11 W. Bower Street 888-3579/fax 898-5501 Planning 660 E. Watertower Lane Suite 202 884-5533/fax 888-6844 Police 1401 E. Watertower Lane 888-6678/fax 846-7366 Public Works 660 E. Watertower Lane Suite 200 898-5500/fax 895-9551 Building NOTICE OF SPECIAL JOINT WORKSHOP /MEETING MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT COMMISSIONERS $c MERIDIAN DEVELOPMENT CORPORTATION NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of Meridian and the Commissioners of the Ada County Highway District and the Board Members of the Meridian Development Corporation will hold a Special Joint Workshop at the Ada County Highway District's Auditorium, 3775 Adams Street, Garden City, Idaho, on Monday, July 10, 2006 at 12:00 noon. They will be discussing planning and service issues and items concerning agencies such as: Update on Split Corridor-Timing with Ten Mile Interchange Status Report on Locust Grove Project-Stormwater Pond Site Waltman Emergency Access Easement Update on Signal Timing Plan-Interim Signals Update on C I P Process "Lets Talk Traffic" Downtown Streetscape Plan 660 E. Watertower Lane \~\~„II~!I!!!,r;;,, ,+ Suite 150 The public is welcome to attend. ,,~~`' ~ T '°-~, 887-2211 /fax 887-1297 ~~ .~'{ -•-.,~ ~ ~~ ~, ~~'°~ +~. ~ Wit, Wastewater ~ '~~rj ', 3401 N. Ten Mile Road DATED this 7th da of Jul 2006. 888-2191 /fax 884-0744 y y~ _ _ - ~s~~ Water ~~ /~' ~ 2235 N.W. 8th Street '~ 888-5242 /fax 884-1159 WILLIAM G. BERG, J ~ ~,~ Eller ~ ~. ~~ ,~ ~*<, Meridian City Council Special Joint Meeting with ACHO Commissioners/~Aj~h1+_ $~~~ t+9~`+1~~~, All materials presented at public meetings shall become the property of the City of Meridian. Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and / or hearings, please contact the Administration of Ada County Highway District at 387-6100 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting. CITY HALL 33 EAST IDAHO AVENUE MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642 (208) 888-4433 CITY CLERK -FAX 888-4218 FINANCE & UTILITY B[LLWG -FAX 887-4813 MAYOR'S OFFICE -FAX 884-8119 Printed on recycled paper ** TX ~MRTION REPORT >~ RS OF JUL 07 '065 PRGE.01 CITY OF MERIDIRN DRTE TIME TO/FROM MODE MIN/SEC PGS CMD# STRTUS 04 07/07 13 00 3810160 EC--9 01'10" 002 096 OK 05 07/07 13 02 PUBLIC WORKS EC--S 00'43" 002 096 OK 06 07/07 13 03 8848723 EC--S 00'44" 002 096 OK 07 07/07 13 05 WRTER DEPT EC--S 00'43" 002 096 OK 08 07/07 13 06 2088840744 EC--S 00'45" 002 096 OK 09 07/0? 13 07 POLICE DEPT EC--S 00'44" 002 096 OK 10 07/07 13 08 8985501 EC--S 00'43" 002 096 OK 11 07/07 13 09 LIBRRRY EC--S 00'44" 002 096 OK 12 07/07 13 11 IDRHO STATESMAN EC--S 00'44" 002 096 OK 13 07/07 13 12 3886924 EC--S 00'43" 002 096 OK 14 07/07 13 13 P-RND-2 EC--S 00'43" 002 096 OK 15 07/07 13 15 FIRE DEPT EC--S 00'44" 002 096 OK 16 07/07 13 16 208 888 2682 EC--S 00'45" 002 096 OK 17 07/07 13 17 208 387 6393 EC--S 00'43" 002 096 OK 18 07/07 13 19 RDA CTY DEUELMT EC--S 00'4S" 002 096 OK 19 07/07 13 20 2088885052 EC--S 00'44" 002 096 OK 20 07/07 13 21 LAKEVIEW GOLFCOU G3--S 01'19" 002 096 OK 21 07/07 13 23 ID PRESS TRIBUNE EC--S 00'43" 002 096 OK 22 07/07 13 25 2088886701 EC--S 00'44" 002 096 OK _~~-~~ ~„ -~ f'.ITV f)F ~~ I*' -~ C~ri~li~n ~,;r 7~ r lo,~i io 1 iela MnvoR rammy ae w~era CIrY CovlvclL MrMar•.Its xetth E1ra Juseph W.Bor[on Charles M. Rountree Shaun Wardle CITY DEPARTMPNTS City Attomey/HR 703 Main Street 898-5506 (City Attorney) 8985503 (I•iR) Fax as4-s723 Fire 540 G. Franklin Rvad 888-] 234 / fix x95-0390 Park, & Racreativn 11 W. DowerS[reet 8x8.3579/fax A9R-5501 Planning 660 E. Watertower Lane Suite 2t12 889-5533/fax 885-6894 Pollee 1401 E. Watertower T-ane 888-6678/fax846-7366 Rtblic Works 660 E. Watertower lane Suite 200 x98-5500/fax 895-9551 - Gttilding 660 E• Watertower Lane Suite ]50 887-2211/fax 887-1297 - YVa9tewatrr 3401 N.'fen Mile Road 888.219] / fax xx4-0744 - Water 2235 N. W. xth Street eae-5242 / fax xs4-1159 NOTICE OF SPECIAL JOINT WORKSHOP !MEETING MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT COMMISSIONERS MERIDIAN DEVELOPMENT CORPORTATION NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of Meridian and the Commissioners of the Ada County Highway District and the Board Members of the Meridian Development Corporation will hold a Special Joint Workshop at the Ada County Highway District's Auditorium, 3775 Adams Street, Garden City, Idaho, on Monday, July 10, 2006 at 12:00 noon. They will be discussing planning and service issues and items concerning agencies such as: ^' Update on Split Corridor-Timing wish Ten Mile Irrterchange ^' Status Report on Locust Grove Project-Stomlwater Pond Site Waltman Emergency Access Easement Update on Signal Timing Plan-Interim Signals Updata on CIP Process "Lets Talk Traffic" Downtown Streetst~pe Plan The public is welcome to attend. ~,nulilfny ~~~~'~ ryE ~~ ;,, \ ~~. ` DATED this 7th day of July, 2006. / _-` WILLIAM G. BERG, J ~ E 1. Meridian C/ty Council Spedel Jo/nf Meeting wkh ACHD Commissioners -Aj~hH$,apQ~$Irr Alf materials presented at publk meetings shelf become the property of the C/fy of Meridian. Anyone desiring accommodeflon for dlseblBtles related to documents end / or hearings, please coMad the Adminlstration or Ada County Hghtvay L)istrict et 387-8100 at feast 48 hours prbr to the public meeting. L'ITY HALL 33 EAST' IDAHO AVENUE IVIERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642 (208) 888-4433 Cr1Y CLERK-FAX 888.9218 FINANCEkI1TILCIY Rn.LtNG-FA%Aa%4fit3 MAYOR'S OFFICE-pA%894.8319 Printed on reryaled paper ~ ~ CITY OF MERIDIAN MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL AND ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT COMMISSIONERS AND MERIDIAN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION SPECIAL JOINT MEETING /WORKSHOP AGENDA Monday, July 10, 2006 at 12:00 Noon ACHD Auditorium, 3775 Adams Street, Garden City, Idaho City of Meridian: Shaun Wardle Charlie Rountree Joe Borton Keith Bird Mayor Tammy de Weerd ACRD: Carol McKee Rebecca Arnold Sherry Huber David Bivens President John Franden MDC: Clarence Jones Keith Bird Jonathan Cecil Erik Oaas Ron Anderson Shaun Wardle Chairman Craig Slocum I Update on Split Corridor ACHD-Levihn -Timing with Ten Mile Interchange II Status Report on Locust Grove Project ACHD-Mills - Stormwater Pond Site III Waltman Emergency Access Easement Meridian IV Update on Signal Timing Plan ACHD-Little - Interim Signals V Update on CIP Process ACHD-Inselman VI "Lets Talk Traffic" Meridian-Mayor VII Downtown Streetscape Plan MDC Meridian City Council Special Joint Meeting with ACHD Commissioners &MDC -July 10, 2006 Page 1 of 1 All materials presented at public meetings shall become the property of the City of Meridian and ACHD. Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and / or hearings, please contact fhe Administrative Office of ACHD at 387-6100 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting. r , ~'t ~~ ,~' CITY OF , ~ . ~- ~ IDAHO j tip, CENTek %K~ TREASURE V A~Y SINCE 1903 MAYOR NOTICE OF SPECIAL JOINT WORKSHOP /MEETING Tammy de Weerd CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL Keith Bird Joseph W. Borton ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT COMMISSIONERS Charles M. Rountree Shaun Wardle $c MERIDIAN DEVELOPMENT CORPORTATION CITY DEPARTMENTS City Attorney/HR NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of 703 Main Street 898-5506 (City Attorney) 898-5503 (HR) Meridian and the Commissioners of the Ada County Highway District and Fax 884-8723 Fire the Board Members of the Meridian Development Corporation will 540 E. Franklin Road 888-1234 /fax 895-0390 hold a Special Joint Workshop at the Ada County Highway District's Parks & Recreation 11 W. Bower Street Auditorium, 3775 Adams Street, Garden City, Idaho, on Monday, 888-3579/fax 898-5501 Planning July 10, 2006 at 12:00 noon. They will be discussing planning and 660 E. Watertower Lane Suite 202 884-5533 /fax 888-6844 service issues and items concerning agencies such as: Police ~ Update on Split Corridor-Timing with Ten Mile Interchange 1401 E. Watertower Lane 888-6678 /fax 846-7366 ^' Status Report on Locust Grove Project-Stormwater Pond Site Waltman Emergency Access Easement Public works ~ Update on Signal Timing Plan-Interim Signals 660 E. Watertower Lane suite 200 ~ Update on CIP Process 898-5500 /fax 895-9551 ^' "Lets Talk Traffic" - Building ~ Downtown Streetscape Plan 660 E. Watertower Lane 887122110/fax 887-1297 The public is welcome to attend. \~,,~~` dF ''a,,, - Wastewater ~'tt,~j 3401 N. Ten Mile Road DATED this 7th da of Jul 888-2191/fax 884-0744 y y+ 20~• - - ~~ ~.~ - Water ~ i-~= __ 9 , 2235 N.W. 8th Street ~ C~ \' 888-5242 /fax 884-1159 WILLIAM G. BERG, J , , ,. ~.~~~ Meridian City Council S ecial Joint Meetin with ACRD Commissioners~ipA~ +$~ i~~~'',i*~1,~~ p g ~A46t A!I materials presented at public meetings shall become the property of the City of Meridian. Anyone d®sirJng accommodation for disabilities related to documents and / or hearings, please conta~ the Administration of Ade County Highway District at 387-6100 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting. CITY HALL 33 EAST IDAHO AVENUE MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642 (208) 888-4433 CITY CLERK -FAX 888-4218 FINANCE & UTILITY BILLING -FAX 887-4813 MAYOR'S OFFICE -FAX 884-8119 Printed on recycled paper ~ ' , . 1!; . ~: Cfl'Y OF ~~ i 'P~ ~Y1G~I~YI _ _~ '~ , ~ ~` v IDAHO F ~,N rER ~~` I RF_'ASURE VA11~Y SINCE 1903 MAYOR Tammy de Weerd CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS Keith Bird Joseph W. Borton Charles M. Rountree Shaun Wardle CITY DEPARTMENTS City Attorney/HR 703 Main Street 898-5506 (City Attorney) 898-5503 (HR) Fax 884-8723 Fire 540 E. Franklin Road 888-1234/fax 895-0390 Parks & Recreation 11 W. Bower Street 888-3579 /fax 898-5501 Planning 660 E. Watertower Lane Suite 202 884-5533 /fax 888-6844 Police 1.401 E. Watertower Lane 888-6678/fax 846-7366 Public Works 660 E. Watertower Lane suite 200 898-5500 /fax 895-9551 Building NOTICE OF SPECIAL JOINT WORKSHOP /MEETING MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL $t ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT COMMISSIONERS 8s MERIDIAN DEVELOPMENT CORPORTATION NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of Meridian and the Commissioners of the Ada County Highway District and the Board Members of the Meridian Development Corporation will hold a Special Joint Workshop at the Ada County Highway District's Auditorium, 3775 Adams Street, Garden City, Idaho, on Monday, July 10, 2006 at 12:00 noon. They will be discussing planning and service issues and items concerning agencies such as: Update on Split Corridor-Timing with Ten Mile Interchange Status Report on Locust Grove Project-Stormwater Pond Site Waltman Emergency Access Easement Update on Signal Timing Ptan-Interim Signals Update on CIP Process "Lets Talk Traffic" Downtown Streetscape Plan 660 E. Watertower Lane ICI I I' I"I~;~;;; , ~~~~~~ ~' Suite 150 ~~` ~ Y The public is welcome to attend. ,~ ~.{ d~ , `''r, 887-221.1 /fax 887-1297 ~~~`r~ "~ ~ ~' '-: ~~~~ ~~ ~1" Wastewater ~ 3401 N. Ten Mile Road DATED this 7th da Of Jul 2006. 888-2197. /fax 884-0744 y y' Water ~„ y ~ 7 ~ - 2235 N.W. 8th Street ~ 888-5242 /fax 884-1159 WILLIAM G. BERG, J ,~ ~~ Elm ~.~' ,,, `;;,. Meridian City Counci/Special Joint Me®ting with ACHD Commissioners - Ajfh1+~+~{~Q~i,~~+"~~, All materials presented at public meetings shall become the property of the City of Meridian. Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and / or hearings, please contact the Administration of Ada County Highway Distract at 387-6100 at Isest 48 hours prior to the public meeting. CITY HALL 33 EAST IDAHO AVENUE MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642 (208) 888-4433 CITY CLERK -FAX 888-4218 FINANCE & UTILITY B[LLWG -FAX 887-4813 MAYOR'S OFFICE -FAX 884-8119 Printed on recycled paper • CITY OF MERIDIAN MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL AND ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT COMMISSIONERS AND MERIDIAN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION SPECIAL JOINT MEETING /WORKSHOP AGENDA Monday, July 10, 2006 at 12:00 Noon ACHD Auditorium, 3775 Adams Street, Garden City, Idaho City of Meridian: Shaun Wardle Charlie Rountree Joe Borton Keith Bird Mayor Tammy de Weerd ACHD: Carol McKee Rebecca Arnold Sherry Huber David Bivens President John Franden MDC: Clarence Jones Keith Bird Jonathan Cecil Erik Oaas Ron Anderson Shaun Wardle Chairman Craig Slocum I Update on Split Corridor ACHD-Levihn -Timing with Ten Mile Interchange II Status Report on Locust Grove Project ACHD-Mills - Stormwater Pond Site III Waltman Emergency Access Easement Meridian IV Update on Signal Timing Plan ACHD-Little - Interim Signals V Update on CIP Process ACHD-Inselman VI "Lets Talk Traffic" Meridian-Mayor VII Downtown Streetscape Plan MDC Meridian City Council Special Joint Meeting with ACHD Commissioners &MDC -July 10, 2006 Page 1 of 1 All materials presented at public meetings shall become the property of the City of Meridian and ACHD. Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and / or hearings, please contact the Administrative Office of ACHD at 387-6100 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting. ~ ~ CITY OF MERIDIAN MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL AND ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT COMMISSIONERS AND MERIDIAN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION SPECIAL JOINT MEETING /WORKSHOP AGENDA Monday, July 10, 2006 at 12:00 Noon ACHD Auditorium, 3775 Adams Street, Garden City, Idaho City of Meridian: Shaun Wardle Charlie Rountree ACHD: MDC: Joe Borton Keith Bird Mayor Tammy de Weerd Carol McKee Rebecca Arnold Sherry Huber David Bivens President John Franden Clarence Jones Keith Bird Jonathan Cecil Erik Oaas Ron Anderson Shaun Wardle Chairman Craig Slocum I Update on Split Corridor ACHD-Levihn - Timing with Ten Mile Interchange II Status Report on Locust Grove Project ACHD-Mills - Stormwater Pond Site III Waltman Emergency Access Easement Meridian IV Update on Signal Timing Plan ACHD-Little - Interim Signals V Update on CIP Process ACHD-Inselman VI "Lets Talk Traffic" Meridian-Mayor VII Downtown Streetscape Plan MDC Meridian City Council Special Joint Meeting with ACHD Commissioners &MDC -July 10, 2006 Page 1 of 1 All materials presented at public meetings shall become the property of the City of Meridian and ACHD. Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and / or hearings, please contact the Administrative Office of ACHD at 387-6100 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting. ~ ~ CITY OF MERIDIAN MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL AND ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT COMMISSIONERS AND MERIDIAN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION SPECIAL JOINT MEETING /WORKSHOP AGENDA Monday, July 10, 2006 at 12:00 Noon ACHD Auditorium, 3775 Adams Street, Garden City, Idaho City of Meridian: Shaun Wardle Charlie Rountree ACHD: MDC: Joe Borton Keith Bird Mayor Tammy de Weerd Carol McKee Rebecca Arnold Sherry Huber David Bivens President John Franden Clarence Jones Keith Bird Jonathan Cecil Erik Oaas Ron Anderson Shaun Wardle Chairman Craig Slocum I I III IV V VI Update on Split Corridor -Timing with Ten Mile Interchange Status Report on Locust Grove Project - Stormwater Pond Site Waltman Emergency Access Easement Update on Signal Timing Plan - Interim Signals Update on CIP Process "Lets Talk Traffic" ACHD-Levihn ACHD-Mills Meridian ACHD-Little ACHD-Inselman Meridian-Mayor VII Downtown Streetscape Plan MDC Meridian City Council Special Joint Meeting with ACHD Commissioners &MDC -July 10, 2006 Page 1 of 1 All materials presented at public meetings shall become the property of the City of Meridian and ACHD. Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and / or hearings, please contact the Administrative Once of ACHD at 387-6100 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting. ~ ~ CITY OF MERIDIAN MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL AND ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT COMMISSIONERS AND MERIDIAN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION SPECIAL JOINT MEETING /WORKSHOP AGENDA Monday, July 10, 2006 at 12:00 Noon ACHD Auditorium, 3775 Adams Street, Garden City, Idaho City of Meridian: Shaun Wardle Charlie Rountree ACHD: MDC: III IV V VI Joe Borton Keith Bird Mayor Tammy de Weerd Carol McKee Rebecca Arnold Sherry Huber David Bivens President John Franden Clarence Jones Keith Bird Jonathan Cecil Erik Oaas Ron Anderson Shaun Wardle Chairman Craig Slocum Update on Split Corridor ACHD-Levihn -Timing with Ten Mile Interchange Status Report on Locust Grove Project - Stormwater Pond Site Waltman Emergency Access Easement Update on Signal Timing Plan - Interim Signals Update on CIP Process "Lets Talk Traffic" ACHD-Mills Meridian ACHD-Little ACHD-Inselman Meridian-Mayor VII Downtown Streetscape Plan MDC Meridian City Council Special Joint Meeting with ACHD Commissioners &MDC -July 10, 2006 Page 1 of 1 All materials presented at public meetings shall become the property of the City of Meridian and ACHD. Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and / or hearings, please contact the Administrative Office of ACHD at 387-6100 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting. Page 1 of 1 Will Berg From: Tara Green Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 4:27 PM To: Will Berg Subject: FW: Joint Meeting for 7/10 with ACHD, MDC, and CC From: Jon Cecil [mailto:jcecil@ccdcboise.com] Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 4:20 PM To: Tara Green Cc: Craig Slocum; Clair Bowman Subject: RE: Joint Meeting for 7/10 with ACHD, MDC, and CC Tara, I will not be able to attend due to prior work commitments. Best, Jon Cecil, AICP Development Manager CCDC 805 W. Idaho Street, Suite 403 Boise, Idaho 83702 P.O. 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Thanks, Tara Tara Green Deputy City Clerk City of Meridian City Clerk's Office 208-888-4433 Ext. 210 7/9/2006 • August 11, 2006 MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL MEETING August 15, 2A06 APPLICANT ITEM NO. 5-A REQUEST Approve Minutes of July 10, 2(~6 City Council 8~ ACHD Commissioners Special Joint /Workshop Meeting AGENCY COMMENTS CITY CLERK: CITY ENGINEER: CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR: CITY ATTORNEY CITY POLICE DEPT: CITY FIRE DEPT: CITY BUILDING DEPT: CITY WATER DEPT: ~ ~C/ CITY SEWER DEPT: O" CITY PARKS DEPT: MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT: ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT: SANITARY SERVICE COMPANY CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH: NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION: SETTLERS IRRIGATION: IDAHO POWER: US WEST: INTERMOUNTAIN GAS: MERIDIAN POST OFFICE: OTHER: Contacted: pate: Phone: Emailed: Staff Initials: Matadals preseMsd at publk r»aeNnga shall become prope~fy of the City of Meridian. • • Meridian City Council Special Joint Workshop/Meeting July 10, 2006 The Meridian City Council Special Joint Workshop/Meeting was called to order at 12:00 P.M. on Monday, July 10, 2006 at the ACHD Auditorium by ACHD Commissioner President John Franden and Mayor De Weerd. Members Present: Mayor Tammy de Weerd, Keith Bird, Shaun Wardle, Charlie Rountree and Joe Borton. Staff Present: Bill Nary, Steve Siddoway and Will Berg. ACHD Members Present: President John Franden, Rebecca Arnold, Sherry Huber and David Bivens. MDC Members Present: Chairman Craig Slocum, Keith Bird and Shaun Wardle. Franden: The first thing I would like to do is welcome Mayor De Weerd and members of the City Council to this meeting today. What would probably be a good idea is to just kind of go around and introduce ourselves again, so we can put faces to names and so on. Start over there. Slocum: I am Craig Slocum the Chairman of the Meridian Development Corporation. Franden: Welcome Craig. De Weerd: Tammy de Weerd the Mayor of the City of Meridian. Bird: Keith Bird, Councilman for the City of Meridian. Wardle: Shaun Wardle, City Councilman for the City of Meridian. Borton: Joe Borton, City Councilman for the City of Meridian. Franden: John Franden, ACHD Commissioner. Arnold: Rebecca Arnold, ACHD Commissioner. Huber: Sherry Huber, ACHD Commissioner. Bivens: Dave Bivens, ACRD Commissioner. Franden: Okay, the first item that we have on the agenda, which is near to everybody's heart here is the split corridor. Katey are you going to be speaking? Item 1. Update on Split Corridor -Timing with Ten Mile Interchange: Meridian City Council Spe~oint Workshop/Meeting July 10, 2006 Page 2 of 25 Levihn: Can I talk here or do I need to talk into the microphone? Yes, this project is very near and dear to everyone's heart. We were able to move up the start of the design. It is now under contract for design with a design completion date of July 2007. Currently, right-of-way is scheduled, right-of-way acquisition for 2008 and construction in 2009. There is not a lot of right-of-way anticipated at the moment, so if we get done with that design in 2007, we probably still won't be able to begin right-of-way acquisition until 2008 because it takes a little bit of time to put it on, but we can look at trying to sequence that a bit more. I know everybody is interested in how it is going to fit with the Ten Mile Interchange and also since we were able to move up design, if we could also move up the construction and the answer on those two is we don't know exactly, but we are working on that. In order to move up the construction, it is a lot of money to move up into 2008. We currently do not have room in our sort of draft five year work program for that year to move it up. We had a large number of cost increases on construction jobs this year that have eaten any slack that we have had and it pushed some of those costs out. So, unless we traded and started looking at trading with the projects in the Meridian area, that is currently not slated to move up. Having said that, ITD now informs us that they think that the Ten Mile Interchange may go in 2009 dependent on how their environmental and design work goes and it probably would not be too nice to have both those under construction at the same time. So, we would be looking at trying to swap things around, but seeing as at this point and time they can't say if they will actually be done and ready and have the bidding in 2009 -you know, we can't count on that. That would be moving faster than anything has ever moved before other than Isaac's Canyon Interchange and I don't know that they can do that or not. They are making a big push to do it. Six months to a year from now we will have a better answer. So, with that and no answer to question answer - Franden: What -first base that would be from Waltman? Levihn: Yes, it takes care -the primary thing is that big Waltman, Meridian, Main central intersection and it goes up north to just about Franklin. I think it actually crosses over very slightly just so that we can reroute the traffic in there and that is where it goes and then the (inaudible) pace right now is programmed for construction and PD, preliminary development. So, that would be about 2012 in that area. That is the one that gets the cross connection and reroutes the traffic and in the (inaudible) split corridor. Franden: Questions for Katey? Rebecca? Arnold: The main question I have is where are we on (inaudible--) consideration we are going in the most expensive option on this project was getting the funding from the City of Meridian and I don't think there have been any contributions made and I haven't even heard the numbers. I would like to know where we are on that. Meridian City Council SpeiJoint Workshop/Meeting July 10, 2006 Page 3 of 25 Levihn: Well, I know Sabrina Bowman our funding facilitator has been talking with both the City of Meridian staff and the Meridian Development Corporation and we have got nothing committed at this point and time. There are some ideas being kicked around for some contribution, but whether it is little or big that hasn't even been set in place Commissioner Arnold. Arnold: Well for me in a decision making process it was supposed to make a significant contribution because the cost was so much higher. So, I am not going to be very happy when it comes time to approve phase two if that doesn't occur. Bird: Rebecca, when we passed that I don't recall any money talked about and being one that wasn't a split option anyway. We donated up to $1.8 million on the right-of-way on Locust Grove and it didn't get us anywhere. So, I am not - right now, I for one, would have to see before I put any money on that (inaudible). I agree, we (inaudible) pick the most expensive deal to recommend to you folks and I apologize if it came with a recommendation that we were going to bring some money because we can go back through our minutes and there was never a mention of money being supplied. Arnold: Well, there were discussions with us, between the Council and the Commissioners on funding options and it was discussed at our meeting when we approved it because the adequate traffic solution was so much less expensive. I wasn't comfortable with spending the additional money for esthetics basically where the city (inaudible) the funding contributions. So, that has been my understanding from the get go. Franden: Katey. Levihn: President Franden and Commissioners and Mayor and City Council members. I don't know if you remember or probably it's remember - I know that everybody looked at that report a lot, but in the actual consultant report that came out at the back there was quite a listing of potential funding sources. We have looked at those and about half of them are probably not applicable to this project. But, in addition it did recommend that there be a joint - a workshop on funding to be set up and so I am going to throw that out for your consideration because that would seem at least one place to begin starting that discussion. De Weerd: Mr. Chairman. Franden: Mayor. De Weerd: I guess when the decision to co-fund a study, at that time ACRD wanted to (inaudible) we want to make sure that this is something that works for the city and the Highway Districts - if you don't intend to take public comments into this, then don't ask for it because the public overwhelmingly supported the split corridor and in our hearings that is what we look at. I know it has come up. Meridian City Council Spe~oint Workshop/Meeting . July 10, 2006 Page 4 of 25 Underline is what about the funding? I got a printout from your staff. Meridian has stepped up in a big way in funding partnerships in many different projects and I don't see you asking the same thing to other communities. We have spent more than the City of Boise and we are a third of the size of the City of Boise. So, at some point this is supposed to carry traffic and it's something that was a joint project and we asked what other projects have you asked the city to come up with money for the more expensive things and I haven't ever seen really any examples come back to us and so we haven't seen anything in writing about this. We haven't heard -some of -the projects that we have asked for in other situations where this has happened, so it kind of thought well, I guess it's not an issue. We have stepped up to be a partner with ACHD in many things and we take that responsibility very serious. It is also, this specific alternative was impact fee eligible. The other one isn't. So, those are your decisions, I guess. Arnold: Madame Mayor we do take public comment into consideration everyday. But, we also have a responsibility to be fiscally responsible and the best traffic solution was actually less expensive. So, we made the decision to go with what the City of Meridian wanted for esthetic purposes for downtown. In my mind, it was based on some funding contribution from the city. I do appreciate that the city has stepped up on projects, but we have to rely on that especially in situations where we could have served the public needs less expensively. Franden: Sherry. Huber: Well, I think the issue here that we - we must of all heard something different. Maybe that is not uncommon and clearly the conversation that Commissioner Arnold is referring to - I think she has always expressed that view. But, I believe we had a discussion amongst the Commissioners that we were willing to see if there were some alternate funding with your downtown development and in my mind, I don't believe the issue ever was definitively settled. I don't call it an esthetically roadway just because it is split. It is not esthetic and I really think that is mischaracterization of it. I think that we did talk about it and we had staff even go back and look at references because it was more and because we do try and be careful with the money, but then we did look at projects outside the City of Meridian and we have probably over and above what a fundamental road system will be (inaudible). Now, our attorney has when it comes to landscaping and things like that has made it pretty clear that we really should not be buying in with that. But, we are not talking about that on a split corridor. That is not the same discussion as esthetics in my definition. So, I don't know if there is consensus on this Commission with regard to Commissioner Arnold's comments. Clearly, I think we do want to look for it because it is our job to look for some additional funding when it is over and above that. I think that issue was still open and that was one of the reasons, quite honestly that we had talked about the best way to do it is inspections because I know Councilman Bird can (inaudible) that when Ten Mile opens that may change the view. So, we gave a lot of future options in case things change Meridian City Council Spe~loint Workshop/Meeting July 10, 2006 Page 5 of 25 and so it is kind of in a step phasing and I think we all agree the most important thing was get the intersection done and that that was critical to get done. But, think we have left it open for the future to see if something changes -you know it only takes one thing like a St. Luke's on Eagle Road to kind of wipe out everybody's best plans. So, I think when we look at the timing we have got enough time to look for optional funding. It will be great if by the dates they are talking about the Ten Mile is in because clearly then we are going to find out if you are right and we have got time to look at the funding. So, I mean I have a different take on it. We have gone ahead and we have bought some right-of-way and I think we asked you guys if you want to get (inaudible). We made the decision as a Commission to go ahead and buy anyway. So, we are on the way and I think we do believe that someone out there is going to find us some money somewhere. So, I just wanted to add that I don't know if there is 100 percent agreement. We just have to express our views and go from there. Franden: I would like to follow up on what Katey talked about. I think it would be very wise for us to have a very focus time when we can sit down and kind of talk about this project and talk about funding. So that when we walk away from that that as much as possible we can all be on the same page and we can know exactly where we are because I have heard different conversations and I don't know if any of them have been really focused, so I think that would be a really good suggestion and I think we could probably carry this conversation on for a few more minutes and then let's move onto another agenda item. But, I think this particular project is going to be probably one of the - it is going to be the biggest project that I think we will see at least funding wise within the City of Meridian for a while at least out of the Ada County Highway District as it being one major project. So, I would like to suggest that maybe we do that in a month or two and sit down and focus in on this whole thing so that we figure out how we both want to work together on this project. Yes? Wardle: Mr. Chair. I guess one of the things that I need some clarification about - things that I was that the infamous tie breaker on the issue -mine was the throwing the stone that cast the final, I think, into play. I just want to make sure that the decision that the City of Meridian was asked to make - through a number of different studies and public involvement - we did make that decision and make that recommendation to the Commission and who then accepted that. My clarification, I guess is are we still moving down the same path and are we all committed to the split corridor -since we are designing it, I assume that is true - phase one - because I have heard a couple of different things and I think that if we can get at least on the same page to say this is the plan and we are going to go forward that there are going to be some additional funding revenues and we need probably a discussion through a workshop. I just again need some reassurance that this is the path we are taking. Bivens: Mr. Chair. Meridian City Council Spe~loint Workshop/Meeting July 10, 2006 Page 6 of 25 Franden: Commissioner. Bivens: After the (inaudible--) is the choices and I think it is a wise move to work with the City of Meridian even though it is costing more money - (inaudible--) looked at years before I was on the Commission, but we have got two things coming up - a Locust Grove Overpass is going to need help. Igo clear back to the time in 1995 when we worked on that. Ten Mile and Locust Grove Overpass were the two major relief for traffic congestion. Now, since that time, yes the split corridor is costly, but the second thing that is happening is the cost of construction has really sky rocketed, now hopefully that will level off. Some of these guys are supposed to know what they are talking about -that is going to happen probably by or before winter sets in. So, all of these kinds of things need to be stirred into the pot to flavor, but as far as I am concerned the time is (inaudible--). Siddoway: Mr. Chair. Franden: Steve. Siddoway: Mr. Chair, I did have a couple of quick thoughts. The one on the timing on the split corridor, phase one and two on the funding partnership ideas for phase two. I expected to be able to project these, but the projector is not working so the one thing that I was wondering first of all in the timing of phase one -first of all we all agree that having both under construction, Ten Mile Interchange and the Meridian Road Interchange area is a bad idea, disaster if it would happen that way. I feel similarly if we were to wait - if we were to put Ten Mile construction without the benefit of having that Waltman intersection improved before then. While Ten Mile may be postponed, we certainly are doing everything we can and working with the GARVEE team to keep them on track for '08 and '09 construction and '08 is really what we are looking at. One thing I was wondering as a potential and in some preliminary discussions with Bruce is if the design for phase one is ongoing now and scheduled to go through July of next year, it will be at 75 percent completion and environmental done and everything by April of next year if it stays on schedule. Could they not at that point begin right-of-way at 75 percent and start right-of-way purchase through summer of '07, which could then - I know we still have to figure out the funding, but the timing wise anyway could get construction conceivably underway in the fall of '07 or spring of '08, but early in fiscal year '08, because if we are successful in getting Ten Mile Interchange done towards latter fiscal year '08, it would be really great to have that Meridian, Waltman intersection done? Huber: Yeah, I think the staffs have to get together and you guys have to go through some scheduling because the Waltman -that intersection has been postponed and we will be doing that probably no matter what happens, you know, to the north. So, that is really an issue if the staff really believes it is reality, you know, with regard to the timing and then again we have to double Meridian City Council Spe~oint Workshop/Meeting July 10, 2006 Page 7 of 25 check as you well know we have all talked about the funding. In fact, we have got it -got money for that year and if we don't have money for that year, we have got it on another Meridian project we might have to do a flip. You know, so, we don't know. So, that to me is really is really a staff issue that they need to say okay we think this is reality. De Weerd: We did get together with your staff and talk about the timing. We saw a train wreck coming on the phase of construction for Ten Mile and phase one of the downtown plan. I think it is essential for traffic flow that phase one downtown is first done because that will be able to carry a greater load to that - having an improved intersection and that traffic flow on both Main and Meridian and so that is why we were looking at that and called a meeting saying, oh my god, did you realize this and they committed to really taking a look at that. Again, we just love working with your staff. We appreciate them and they are based in reality, but they also are people who look for solutions and then (inaudible). So that timing is very critical on Locust Grove, downtown phase one and Ten Mile and we have gotten the commitment from Washington Group to be as close to the timeframe on the Ten Mile as we can and so that is - we don't know it's practical. We hope by bringing in private industry to be a driver behind this also will compliment the work on their engineering division and get some -show a model. I was in D.C. and we talked about these three projects and what Meridian is doing in regards to Ten Mile and our area specific plan that we are doing to compliment the transportation system, integrated with land use and some of the goals of that study is really to combine land use transportation and the transportation part of it and this is the discussion that we had with your staff as well. We hope it reduces the cost for ACHD in trying to have traffic generation or (inaudible) generation studies and those kinds of things. So, it is going to ease some of the things on your end. In our transportation plan it should have access management, traffic patterns, collector system, trip generation in our section capacity and the affect on land uses. So, we are integrating that into our planning process to hopefully come up with a showcase piece that can be used as an example of how we can best work together the transportation and the land use aspects. I do want this note that I know our urban renewal arm is looking at what they can participate in the downtown and even with the sidewalk plan that you will be hearing about a little bit later and that can reduce some of your costs and they are looking at it in that fashion as well. We are planning our land use to that transportation plan, so it is very important as Councilman Wardle said that we are on the same page as we move forward and approve projects that those things are going to compliment the transportation system that is being planned. Franden: Katey. Levihn: Commissioner Franden, Council people I just want to caution - we definitely (inaudible) work together trying to sequence this, but it is not just the split corridor that wants to be moved up. We are getting pressure from ITD to move up all the roadways around the Ten Mile Interchange. We can't move Meridian City Council Spe~oint Workshop/Meeting July 10, 2006 Page 8 of 25 everything up, so we are going to have to work mostly together between the three agencies to see what can be moved up and what is going to slide and that is going to develop a little bit over time as we see how the designs go and everything. But, we are getting ITD saying please complete Overland and Franklin and the intersections all around there - (Inaudible discussion) Levihn: We won't be able to get it all done before the Ten Mile Interchange goes in, so we are going to have to between the three agencies figure out which is the most critical in making the whole system work. De Weerd: And Mr. Chairman, we are. We are trying to work with private industry to have and to be a partner to that and Steve and I will have a meeting this week or next week on one of those partnerships and I think our area specific planning group also has property owners on it and seeing how we can get that going. Same with the phase one of the transportation downtown plan with a development that is a potential as well. So, we are looking for those partnership opportunities any place we can. Franden: One thought that goes through my mind is that you are the fastest growing community in the Valley and I look at the projects that you have got that are big projects with Locust Grove and we are talking of the split corridor and Ten Mile and I hate more meetings, but I almost wonder if we better be meeting a little bit more often than we have been so that we know what you are doing and what you are going through and how your planning so that we can be as Commissioners, not just staff, but Commissioners more involved and engaged with Meridian so that we can be of assistance to you where you need it. Sherry? Huber: Yeah, I just wanted a clarification so that I - what I heard Katey say is that we are going to have a lot more projects that will go with Ten Mile, plus this and clearly I can (inaudible) see in the numbers we are not going to have funding, so when you are talking about partnerships are you talking about potentially people donating right-of-way for dollars or some combination of so that - De Weerd: -- or maybe even the pre-construction that they can be (inaudible). Huber: Or like we have done before on Eagle Road where they went in and they did the roadway and then we paid them back with impact fees from there? De Weerd: Yes. Huber: Because we need to know that because if we are figuring impact fees are going to go into a pot and a segment of this pot is going to go here and they are Meridian City Council SpE`loint Workshop/Meeting July 10, 2006 ``~~ Page 9 of 25 planning on it here, we know that will make a difference in the mix to. Am I right Katey? Levihn: Yes, we will work with everybody. It is going to be very complicated and so we are getting a lot of pressure from two agencies to move projects up to be ready for Ten Mile and we had actually scheduled a number of projects, but over the next five, six or seven years because when we start putting them into program, the Interchange wasn't going to be built for 10 to 15 years. So, this moving it up is putting a lot of pressure on everyone. We are in discussions with ITD about what can be included in their part of the project or in discussions with developers, about what they can get done. I am hearing (inaudible--) so we just have to keep in close communication so we know who all is doing what and try to figure out the best way and if something has to not get done that we are in agreement that that is the least critical of the eight critical things that need to get done. Huber: We are going to start Overland from Ten Mile this fall, I think. Levihn: Yeah, I believe so. Franden: Yeah. Huber: So, that is going to be a big one going on the south end. Franden: In the interest of time, let's move on to our next Locust Grove project. But, I would like to really suggest that we try to get together maybe in September again and - we are in July, right? I don't know what it is anymore. If September is soon enough so that we are with each other. Okay, Bruce. Item 2. Status Report on Locust Grove Project -Storm water Pond Site: Mills: I will be quick. Locust Grove -Franklin to Fairview we have just received a permission from the last hurtle that we had was with Settler's and they will allow us to go over the crossing in this particular project so it's actually ready to go out to bid now. What we are looking at doing is bundling a few projects together and putting them out to bid to try and see if we can generate some additional interest because I believe ITD recently had some (inaudible) five is what I heard and two got one bid each and three got no bidders, so we are just trying to figure out is there a different way of doing it. So, we are going to try and bundle this project with a few others and bid it out in late July or early August. There is a storm water pond site at the north end, east side of the road just south of Fairview and we are working with your staff. We realize that the pond even though it is in Ada County now it is surrounded pretty much by Meridian and it will need to be landscaped like we have done on our other ponds, so we will be looking to enter into an agreement with you. The other thing that is interesting is we will probably have to annex it in so we can get your water to irrigate the pond Meridian City Council Spe~oint Workshop/Meeting July 10, 2006 Page 10 of 25 or the landscape thing. We are working with your staff on that. So, that is kind of a quick update. Just one last one on the Locust Grove Overpass project is it is with ITD now and the last I heard is it is going to be (inaudible) this month. Siddoway: A couple of weeks ago we were told there is (inaudible) down there, but it still had HWA funding (inaudible). Mills: So hopefully it is going quick. Franden: Questions? Okay, Bruce thanks. Item 3. Waltman Emergency Access Easement: Siddoway: I will take that one. This is really an opportunity to say thank you to the Commissioners. We have already said thank you to the staff, but we had this emergency access issue off Linder Road in the (inaudible) Landing Subdivision area, right up against the freeway. It had been in need for years for emergency access connection from Waltman over to that area and we partnered together, we negotiated the easement successfully with the current property owner when property changed hands last year and we worked with ACHD. Our emergency services are very pleased. They have been and looked at it and we just wanted to say thank you. Franden: Thanks, Steve. De Weerd: A big thank you. This has been something that I think we have been trying to do for six years. So, we appreciate again your staff and how they have really stepped up and yourselves to make some of these emergency access points happen as well. Item 4. Update on Signal Timing Plat -Interim Signals: Little: The Commission gave us the green light a few months ago to get going on some interim projects and some focus on signal timing and some projects we have dropped back for certain reasons and high bid prices or whatever, we have held off. But, anyway with available funds, we have planned for six interim traffic signals and we are doing about 30 school zone flashers and we are doing some signal timing projects and some other things that are in the traffic area, but on the signal timing we just did downtown Boise. We go in and do run streets, (inaudible) students and drive streets and record times and all that and with a consultant on board go through the whole process and then we check them out at the end and see what actually happened on these streets in time wise and you get a really good product in terms of information on what is the average vehicle delay and timeline on every street and comes up with the timing plans for each. In downtown Boise, we ended up with, I think, four different timing plans. So, it is the time of day, day of week and that kind of thing. We are planning to do Meridian City Council Spe~loint Workshop/Meeting July 10, 2006 ``~~ Page 11 of 25 Meridian and we will be doing it this summer. We are meeting a consultant tomorrow to go through the strategy and that and we hopefully will be done by the end of October in terms of having it implemented, on the ground, measured results and the product back. (Inaudible discussion) Little: Yes, that would be all Meridian signals. The signal timing thing -the interim signals, one of those in the north Meridian and the rest of them are southwest Boise and the reason is that most of north Meridian are under design for ultimate signals and the ones down on Amity Road and Lake Hazel are just sitting there. They are not in the program at this point. But, the one that is in Meridian that we moved into the status to build is the interim signal and it is Ustick and Meridian Road. That is one that we hope to do as an early one. Hopefully our second one -the hang up is going to be our power poles. We are hoping to get cooperation from Idaho Power. We think it will take about 30 days to get those moved and so we could be in there by September building an interim signal that would take about three weeks to a month to get that done. De Weerd: Terry, if you need any help with that let me know and I can also send (inaudible) your way. Little: I will just give you a list of the Meridian speed zone flashing lights. These are the flashing beacons at schools. I think there are nine schools and eleven locations in Meridian that will be receiving these school zone flashers. They are really popular in general, with the police and it costs just a little bit of energy and the cost to get those built, but they are a great device. Franden: Questions for Terry? De Weerd: No, just appreciation. Item 5. Update on the CIP Process: Inselman: Mr. Council we are advertising currently for the public hearing for our capital improvements plan. We had a final draft go out June 19th and advertising started in the last week and the public hearing is July 26th at 6:30 here and if you have specific questions about anything, I would be happy to answer those. That is where we are at in the process right now. Franden: Sherry. Huber: Yeah, you might tell them that we anticipate because the costs have gone up that impact fees are going to go up. So, we don't want anybody to be too surprised when you see some increases and (inaudible) public comment will be regarding that or maybe not. Maybe everybody realizes like we do. Meridian City Council Spe~loint Workshop/Meeting July 10, 2006 ``~~ Page 12 of 25 Inselman: The impact fees will increase between 72 percent and 191 percent depending on which service area you are in. The highest increases are the northeast service area, the east of Eagle Road, north of the Interstate. The second highest increases are your areas, which are probably service areas one and two, north and south of the Interstate. Huber: (Inaudible--)? (Inaudible discussion) Inselman: 72 percent to 191 percent. For instance in the northwest area, north Meridian a single family homes will go up to $3,500 from $1,500 today and south of the Interstate it would be $2,550, where I believe it is $1,185 today or $1,300 today. De Weerd: Mr. Chairman, we did have concern and I think we brought it up a meeting that we last held that maybe Steve can just give you a brief summary of that. Siddoway: I don't know if there is an answer at this point, but at the last meeting we did talk about the southwest Meridian area. There were several roads that had been identified as collectors that were not included in the initial analysis. Those classifications have now changed. They could be included except I know that there are fund issues and cannot simply just add additional roads in, but I think this group of elected officials needs to be aware that the roads like Locust Grove, we are getting an overpass this year, but south of the freeway it is not in the CIP. So, there will be no impact fees collected for that road project. There is still impact fees collected in the area as this area develops out, but Linder Road, Victory are examples. Those are the mains one that come to mind that do not show up in the CIP, so as such if we have developer initiated partnerships on any of those roads in the next three years until the next update, they won't be eligible. The impact fee is not as high as it would be if those roads could be included. So, I know there has been some frustration - I don't know if frustration is the right word, but we have acknowledge the fact that a lot of the roads in north Meridian weren't in the previous CIP and a lot of development has happened in the last three years in north Meridian. The sewer is being extended under the freeway this fall and we expect similar growth in south Meridian over the next three years. I just want that issue clear. I don't know if there is an answer. Franden: Gary. Inselman: Yeah, I can address some of that and Steve and I have talked about this before. Even some of the roads south of the Interstate that were in, they are only showing up in the model runs is a three lane necessity and some of those we had to drop the construction dollars out of our plan. We have a lot of our projects in our plan this time that are for corridor preservation only because we Meridian City Council Spe~int Workshop/Meeting July 10, 2006 Page 13 of 25 had to free up approximately $70 million from the general fund revenue, our match to meet our other needs. So, we weren't in a position to be able to add a lot of projects and we did discuss it and we are concerned about a delay in studying to add more road projects when we are already trying to reduce costs and remove some construction dollars out. For instance, Black Cat was only showing as a three lane need. All of Amity west of Highway 69 was only a three lane need. Lake Hazel didn't even show up as a need. So, I wasn't positive that we would see a lot of needs identified studying Locust Grove or Linder or Victory anyway and if we did it most likely would be a three lane need that we wouldn't lead the construction dollars in anyway because we are trying to reduce costs. We do acquire the right-of-way as the properties develop even if it is not a capital improvements plan. We do have a budget item for non impact fee eligible corridor preservations. We are acquiring the right-of-way. We are having more success working with your staff and in particular developers and having more right-of-way donated or limiting the amount of right-of-way that we have to buy and getting the sidewalks and easements so we are cutting a lot of savings there. I think we can address the needs in the next update and not get behind as properties develop over the next couple of years and preserving that right-of-way. De Weerd: Mr. Chairman I guess the concern is that we are aware of Boise's plan on Lake Hazel and that connection. We are aware of Canyon County and their aggressive improvements for Amity and we just don't want to be caught in between with our rural two lane road that those numbers may not justify it in Meridian, yet, but Kuna and what they are doing down there just scares the living tar nation out of me because I know where their traffic goes. (Inaudible). So, we are just very concerned about those south roads because of what Nampa is doing and we are accommodating Nampa's cars and I know you of everyone knows that, but they are not going to go to Garrity to get onto I-84. They come through Meridian as they do in the north and with Kuna's growth and the planned communities that might be happening, we are just trying to look out and make sure that we again work very closely with you and leveraging the dollars that you do through as many donations and allowing those sidewalks to go into easements or right-of-ways, but we just don't want to have the train wreck happen in Meridian. Franden: Katey. Levihn: President Franden, Commissioners, Council people I don't know if you are aware that our Commission approved a whole series of studies that we are getting kicked off right now. They were approved in April and we have been working on scopes of work. One of those main studies is for what we call the southwest Meridian area and it goes from the freeway all the way down to Kuna and to look at all those roads and kind of do a pulmonary transportation and work with Steve on that and everything else that is going in there. So, that should help and it will help feed into the next CIP update because it should give us some Meridian City Council Spec•oint Workshop/Meeting • July 10, 2006 Page 14 of 25 really good information. We are hoping on that. We are also looking at Kuna (inaudible) road. We have got a pile of them. Franden: Sherry. Huber: Katie do you think that by the next update that we will have our -the mile we use is the long range mile (inaudible) and clearly it has a different goal than maybe what we deal with on a short timeframe and so we have talked about working on to get our own short term model, which is really what I think we are talking about here. Do you think by that time we probably should -some process and have it up and running by then? Levihn: By the next update? Huber: Yeah. Levihn: And starting that --? Huber: Yeah. Levihn: And which would start about two years from now? Yes. We actually - just a position closed last Friday to get a transportation modeler. We only had two responses. I am not sure how soon we will get somebody on staff for that, but we are planning on developing - we use the COMPASS model, which is very good at the (inaudible) prints arterial level, pretty good at the minor, gets worse as you are going down and build on that with our own to be able to model how smaller areas, intersections (inaudible) collector system a whole lot better. would think in two years from now we will have that pretty good and up and running. Huber: That would really integrate the land uses because as you get an application in, you feed into us and we are really going to know the counts on that road and the distribution from the traffic studies. (Inaudible discussion) Huber: I mean, we have seen enough and I didn't know if they were aware of that, so I brought it up. The Commission, we have seen enough where we knew it (inaudible) and that was some of our reorganization that we are doing (inaudible--) because it integrates exactly what you are talking about earlier in a much tighter way than land use and traffic planning and a short timeframe rather than - (Tape turned over) Franden: Actually we are referring them all to you. Meridian City Council Spe~int Workshop/Meeting • July 10, 2006 Page 15 of 25 Item 6. "Let's Talk Traffic": De Weerd: Our staffs all got together, the city, ACHD, COMPASS, ITD to try and find how can we better communicate? The innovative, above and beyond steps that are being taken because we know that those are happening everyday by multiple parties. It is not just ACRD or the City of Meridian. It is our development community. It is all different sources and so we are trying to find a better way of doing that. So, "Let's Talk Traffic" is just a proactive campaign to improve communication on what we are doing about traffic and transportation related issues. We will be doing public displays and handouts, presentations to civic groups, neighborhood associations, church groups or whoever calls and says we would really like you to come in and as those calls come in we do have that suggestion that this is available, we certainly would be willing to come out and talk to groups and we do have some presentation material. We are trying to get it out in our news letter. We just had a City of Meridian news letter that went out. It is electronically transmitted, so we are building our database. But, "Let's Talk Traffic" was on page 2 as something that we are trying to do, again to work with your communications aspect and ours to come together with a positive and proactive message that we are working on it. Franden: Great. Comments for the Mayor? Dave? Bivens: I think growth has just part seeded our capabilities to keep up with the necessary facilities to handle it and people that come here - on places where people were born and raised in this area they can't believe it. My God, we can't believe it. There is nothing there, no landmarks or anything like that. I think Steve mentioned that southwest part and as quick as you are getting that sewer and water, I compliment Meridian and Kuna Council for kind of holding back until we get that Ten Mile Interchange because it is kind of like pulling the plug out of a reservoir. You get that under there and you get that connection, it is going to be another extreme growth area. (Inaudible--) out there and I meant with a group of folks that are looking at Kuna -Mora Road and they are willing to participate in kind of setting aside corridors on each side for like seven lanes and several (inaudible--). Huber: It shows a one lane road there now. Bivens: Yeah, we have got a two lane road there now and the one development that is over there on the corner of Cloverdale and (inaudible) right now and if you look at the setbacks, they are already planning for it. They are moving it way back. There is enough owners in there that own about -they tell me about 10 miles on both sides of Kuna -Mora Road, they control that as far as ownership is concerned and they (inaudible) ground well up there by the railroad track on just opposite of Black Creek Interchange and that is going to be a major interchange. But, it will go clear through to Nampa and part of Meridian and it is going to affect Meridian City Council Spe~oint Workshop/Meeting • July 10, 2006 Page 16 of 25 the whole area just like north Eagle and that area that we talked about (inaudible). Franden: Sherry. Huber: But, anyway, I met with Kuna on that and we talked about it with Canyon County and the Highway District and we are letting the study out, but in my mind the biggest purpose of the study is to know the setbacks because the reality is we just did arough -Katie did a rough numbers of six or seven million just to connect those roads. Forget about widening them, just connect to (inaudible) into Canyon County. You can't justify spending that right now because there are other priorities that have waited longer, better (inaudible) and so the reality is unless somebody builds it; it isn't going to happen for a long time. I mean, these people can have a lot of dreams and they can sell a lot of places, but I mean I really comfortable in saying from the Highway District's perspective that that is going to be not a high priority. You all are aware of our priority system. So, although everybody recognizes that it is a wonderful thing to do and we know the growth is going to be there, the reality is we don't have the money. So, it is really critical to at least get the setbacks. I mean, we could talk about all of this, but we just don't have enough money to accommodate what people are talking about. It is just that the reality of it is just not there. The best we can do is to get a setback. Franden: You know looking at this it is kind of nice that you are doing this because the people that live in Meridian have some place to go to and for you to communicate as well as ourselves, but there are a couple of things that have happened over the last couple days that really hit me right between the eyes and one was - I don't know how many saw Andy Rooney last night on 60 minutes, but he said do you think the country is growing? Does it seem to you that there is more congestion? And he said well a hundred years ago we had 85 million people in this country. Fifty years ago we had 165 million and today we have 295 million people living in the United States and we are seeing this growth coming. Then on Saturday I get this email news service that has to do with real estate that came through and so there are three boom areas. Three boom towns that we are seeing -that this particular service is seeing in the country right now. One was in Texas. One was in South Carolina and the other one was right here in this Valley, the third one that is coming forth. So, just to kind of reiterate where we are at. I see a perfect storm coming. The perfect storm is not coming, it is here. What that perfect storm is going to be is going to have to do with money. We see the legislature is going to be meeting at the end of the summer, probably and I wouldn't be surprised if they do something about property taxes and move it to the sales tax. Then I see where there is going to be a move to try and get local option taxation for public transportation and then I see where we are going to need to come in for additional dollars for the vehicle registration fee to help with transportation. Something is going to have to fail. The voters will do something, but what will they do and what won't they do is going to be the Meridian City Council Spe~oint Workshop/Meeting • July 10, 2006 Page 17 of 25 question that I see and our salvation and I am not negative towards public transportation in any way at all. I want to see it succeed in our Valley, but the reality is that between 95 and 98 percent of the people are still going to be using some form of single occupancy vehicle. We are going to have to figure out how to fund the systems that will move those vehicles. I guess that is my (inaudible) story. Anyway, anything else? (Inaudible discussion) Franden: Well, Tammy you see what is going on in Meridian and you also see what is going on through the rest of the county, through everything that you guys are involved in and we do as well. Katey's study that she talked about. One thing that has helped us kick some of that off had to do with the north Ada foothills and what is going on there and then we see what is happening south of the airport and out there and it does - it scares the carnation out of you. I mean, it certainly has our attention in a big way. We just realized we don't have the money to do everything and then as David mentioned, our construction costs are going up between 25 and 40 percent on each and every project and that is if we can get somebody to do the job. Huber: You know the reality is that everybody talks about transportation, but when Dr. Freilich was here I think he made some pertinent comments that seemed to be overlooked. A lot of the transportation that we are talking about we don't have (inaudible), nor do we have calculation, so the reality is we have got to fund roads because if you are going to have any system it is going to be a bus system on wheels. If you don't have a north south, east west good five lane roads that is going to carry us, we are not there. While it is great to be a visionary, I guess I am saying I am not. I am trying to be the realist that says in the next five or ten years that is reality. We have got to work on the roads. So, guess in some ways I am a little negative on public transportation because I believe that some dollars may go there that should be going to the road system. While I certainly believe there should be right-of-way corridor preservation that is logical for a future public system of this rail or whatever it is going to be, but I think it's so future that - I just don't see people using it yet and we don't have the densities anywhere and in the future there doesn't look like there are densities. De Weerd: We are never going to get through the first step of public transportation without road improvements or those busses will sit in the same traffic as we all sit in. Huber: Yeah, if we don't have good roads busses sit and they fail. Franden: Okay, let's move to the next item, unless you wanted to say more about that. Meridian City Council Spe~int Workshop/Meeting July 10, 2006 Page 18 of 25 Item 7. Downtown streetscape Plan: Wardle: Thank you I will kick this off. I would like to, just again, introduce Craig Slocum who is the chair of the Meridian Development Corporation, which is the urban renewal arm of the City of Meridian. In addition, myself as well as Councilman Bird sit on that board. I will now introduce the Administrator for MDC, Clair Bowman to give us a brief presentation on our streetscape and improvement plan. Bowman: It is a pleasure to be back with this group again. Franden: Are you new to the Valley, sir? Bowman: The Meridian Development Corporation is considering a concept of a consistent or more consistent streetscape, sidewalk-scape throughout some portion of the downtown area of the City of Meridian. We have hired The Land Group as a consultant to put together the prototype for it. We are looking at areas between the back of the curb and the front of the buildings and again areas where both (inaudible) and to the property line buildings already exist. It is called a prototype because we do not anticipate applying this in a cookie cutter fashion. It will be applied in consultation with any of the individual property owners. As a portion of the reviewed process we are going through right now, I have personally gone to each of the businesses on Main Street at least in the downtown area of the City of Meridian and the businesses immediately on the side streets from there. I personally delivered an invitation to the business owners and the property owners to review this proposal that I will be going through with you today. Over the last two weeks I have had almost three quarters of those business owners come for either a personal consultation or to walk through and to take a look at what we are proposing here. When I get to the end of this presentation you will see what the next steps are and you will see how some of that plays into what those next steps are. I met with your staff a week ago and we have made a few modifications in what is in here based upon that conversation. I wouldn't say that they have approved it. That would be going beyond the nature of the conversation we had, but I think we have addressed the immediate concerns that came to mind. We will go through a series of graphic images. We are going to look at the target geography and look at an overall site plan template. We will look at some cross section street elevations and finally streetscape furniture and furnishing possibilities. Our intent right now is to apply this to the geography as shown in the colored street sections there. It would start at Ada Street on the south and go to Carlton Street on the north, Meridian Road on the west and E. 3~d Street on the east. We anticipate when it is implemented by MDC, we would do both sides of the street. We are anticipating it would apply to both sides of all of those streets. We have, through The Land Group, had a proposal that yes it is nice to have a consistent image in your downtown area, but you don't want that image so consistent that it becomes boring. So, there are separate treatments proposed for the north south streets Meridian City Council Spe~int Workshop/Meeting July 10, 2006 Page 19 of 25 and for the east west streets. Here is a typical corner. You are looking in the lower left corner there at the Farmer's & Merchants State Bank, the new building where you have already approved and has been implemented some portions of this streetscape. Those portions that you have already approved that the MDC Board and that the City of Meridian have already approved are brought forward as existing components of this plan. This prototype for public comment is simply going beyond that to say what do you want in some of the other elements? Along the east side, the right hand side of the graphic there, we have used some existing buildings, we have also modified some of those street front or building fronts to illustrate situations that occur up and down Main Street. In the upper left corner you simply have an enlargement of the lower right corner and I will go to a much larger graphic of that. I might for the benefit of the Commission and at your staff's request, note that what is shown there is enhanced pavement crosswalk is yet to be determined and is not really a part of this project. Huber: Well, that was one of my questions and the second one was we just went through in last year or the year before a pretty extensive study about the trees and the plant (inaudible) and if they puffed up our sidewalks and has staff agreed that this fits that policy? We took it to all of the cities and so I am presuming that that is true, but I want to ask. Bowman: We are assuming that the list of trees that would be available for planting in class 1, 2 and 3 trees here would be the ones that are acceptable on the ACHD adoption list. Huber: You do have our policies so you kind of know? Bowman: Yes. Huber: I hate for you to landscape something and then it doesn't - Bowman: The tree grates are the same as what you require. The structure of the concrete borders on the tree grates go down far enough and is thick enough that it will handle all of your requirements for the roots not breaking and for protecting the irrigation system that goes in behind it. The components that we are looking at are bunched up on this comer because we wanted to illustrate them all on a single corner. In practice they will not be installed that way. You can see we are looking at bike wrecks, recycling and trash receptacles, tree grates, trees, drinking fountains, street lights, benches, planters, A.D.A. ramps, bollards and a street crossing. We then took elevation looks at what is being proposed here so both of the -for all of the people who see this can understand what we are proposing. You see on the above graphic, a highlighted white area along the right hand side. Down below you are taking a street level look at that face on looking west on this hypothetical block front here. We are illustrating the positioning of street lights, we are illustrating the relative clearances under trees that we are proposing in the standards package. We are anticipating trees would Meridian City Council Spe~int Workshop/Meeting July 10, 2006 Page 20 of 25 have a minimum nine foot clearance under them so that storefronts are still open to both pedestrians and folks on the street to be seen easily. Yet, we would have this canopy of trees that would show off very well and highlight the beautification of the downtown area. We then go to a cross section. This is that little building that we drew way out into the sidewalk area up there to illustrate our starting point for the zones in the sidewalk. We have identified an eight foot street furnishing zone. That is where all of the trees, tree grates, benches, bicycle racks, planters, bollards and things like that go. We are retaining that, we want to retain it as an eight foot set dimension throughout the entire project area. That width accommodates the six foot tree grates that you currently -that ACRD Commission currently requires and the concrete around those with enough pavers to set them off visually and accent them appropriately. Any area between that eight foot zone and the building front would then be divided into two areas. One is a pedestrian movement zone and one is a commerce zone. The pedestrian movement zone will be a five foot minimum width throughout. You are seeing here what we could identify -you know walk up and down Main Street as the narrowest street section, excuse me, the narrowest sidewalk section that we have on Main Street. That is why we used it as an illustration here. If you go to one down the street a little bit that has a wider sidewalk section you will see here that we still have the eight foot street furnishing zone. We now have a ten foot pedestrian movement zone, which is much more desirable than the five foot one and we still allow five feet in front of the store as a commerce zone either for sidewalk poster signs, sidewalks sales, cafe kinds of things extending out into the street and so on. Wherever we have both a sidewalk pedestrian movement zone and a commerce zone, we anticipate having a visual identification of the boundary between those so that patrons, store owners, enforcement officers and everyone has a clear idea of where those boundaries are. There currently is one store and one restaurant in downtown Meridian where the commerce zone seems to creep out further and further into the sidewalk zone, pedestrian zone as the day moves along. Huber: How does the right-of-way work? Bowman: There will be some interesting situations to take care of in the right-of- way section. Huber: Because we (inaudible--) earlier when I was talking about schematics, this clearly falls into that category, so we do need to talk about it. I mean, I love the wide sidewalks, unfortunately we can't afford them. But it is something that definitely makes it much more (inaudible). Have we talked about how that is going to work? Bowman: No, we have not at this point. Our current focus is on Main Street where all of those issues are at least contained within a set of two or three alternatives. There are some leftover anomalies, I guess is the right word, from the late 1980's, early 1990's project that the Ada County Highway District and the Meridian City Council Spe~int Workshop/Meeting July 10, 2006 Page 21 of 25 city did jointly to improve Main Street to its current status. There are some legal questions there on some of that parking where the property line between ACHD and the property owner goes right through the middle of parking spaces and things like that. So, we will have some interesting application issues. Our goal here again is to deal with prototype and then we will deal with the specifics at some point later on. Franden: Clair I have got a question and then I think Steve does, but I think it is the same question that Sherry has and I think you answered it, but if Boise is an example, ACHD owns the right-of-way that the sidewalks are on except on Ada Street of where (inaudible) has some. Is that the same case in Meridian and what I heard you say is no not necessarily because some of the private property owners in the middle of the (inaudible) - Bowman: Yes, where the diagonal parking is along Main Street from Idaho to Pine there were some interesting resolutions to legal issues there in the late 1980's when you did that large project. So, in some cases, the property owners still own property out into those parking spaces I am told and ACHD right-of-way does not go all the way back to the building front, but most of the area in that downtown where the buildings come out to the sidewalk, that is the property line at which ACHD owns the right-of-way. Franden: Steve. S. Price: One thing that we have been kind of planning for about the last year and one half, but it has been kind of held up with negotiated a master license agreement with Valley Ride is we are creating a task force on basically structures within the right-of-way and that is the streetscape, all of these different structures. We will be sending -actually our new attorney, (inaudible) Rigby, she is going to be spearheading that effort and that task force. Huber: Put the new guy on it. S. Price: She just started this in the past two weeks and we will be sending out a letter and most certainly one of the top people on that is you Clair to participate in that. But, we are getting all the different cities to get involved to help us (inaudible) regulations and to come up with some design standards. Now, it is still going to give the city a certain amount of flexibility, but we really have two concerns. One is that the sidewalk system meets the American Disability's Act. The second thing is that in terms of traffic safety that whatever structures are within aright-of-way satisfies our standards. Then beyond that is that (inaudible) is to work out some type of arrangement where, for instance, news racks where you have permanent fixtures that are there, that you can license them, that you can regulate the (inaudible--). A lot of concerns that we are getting from the development community is the cities will put a bunch of standards on them to make their development very nice, only to find out after the completion of the Meridian City Council Spe~int Workshop/Meeting July 10, 2006 Page 22 of 25 development a bunch of yellow and blue rental house boxes end up on their corner after they put (inaudible) papers in one. The idea is to find a way to try and change some of those nice, esthetic boxes and change it into something that the city actually wants. So, we think that we really need to get the whole task force in place to do that, get everybody's input and then we will develop these regulations. This will be moving right along in the next six months. Huber: And to follow up, a part of the reason that started was what has been referred to as somebody's incorrect (inaudible) to the cafe out onto the sidewalk as the day goes along and I think it would be an interesting challenge for that task force to come up with a resolution because in downtown Boise is really where it started is the sidewalk (inaudible) cafes are using public right-of-way and making money from it and they are being charged a fairly minimal fee. So, if you are consistent across the board with when someone uses public right-of-way, then they should being paying more. Of course, then you know, we are ruining downtown. You are going to have exactly the same, probably a similar situation and so that is something that we want the task force to wrestle with what is fair and what is in the interest of the community because when somebody uses public right-of-way and are making money off of it, it was a private business they would be getting some reasonable return. For some reason there is a distinction drawn so that (inaudible) is going to have an interesting challenge with all of those items. Wardle: Mr. Chair, I would just ask Steve, does Meridian have a representative through their Valley Ride process on that Committee? Huber: You would really need to be sure because it is going to (inaudible--). De Weerd: Well and where we have transit (inaudible). S. Price: Councilman Wardle, one of the things that obviously - we are going to actually find some of the key players and then have a meeting to identify all those players that really need to be there to make those kinds of decisions. Valley Ride, the reason we have been holding off until we get a master license agreement is because in this county we have, our estimates are over 600 unauthorized bus benches. So, wherever you see a bus bench doesn't necessarily mean that there is going to be a bus there. We have run into -this is a really complicated thing because these people have found a loop hole in the signage ordinance, the city's signage ordinance as a way to advertise. So, we are working with the City of Boise and Nampa has also done it, which is to adopt a signage ordinance that precludes that type of signage. What we want to do is to turn over to Valley Ride to get them the ability to license any advertising on their structures and they get to keep any of the revenue of it to help them with public transportation. Typically, we have kept that revenue, but we -the program costs us more. We are not really in a position where we can charge more. We think that Valley Ride will be in a position where they can generate Meridian City Council Spe~oint Workshop/Meeting July 10, 2006 Page 23 of 25 more revenue and have more control over where they put bus stops. But, once we get the ordinance in place that prohibits that type of advertising, then it puts us in a better position where we can go remove all those unauthorized bus benches. It is going to be quite an order, but that is something that we are working with Valley Ride. Of course Valley Ride is going to be very much involved in that. There are different times of transit structures. There is the permanent, just the benches as well as the standard signs. But, we have kind of just sat down, just to give you an idea and tried to identify all the different types of things that go in the right-of-way. It is unbelievable. Clair has just identified just a few, but there are a lot of things that people put in right-of-way, so we really have to address all of those and try and find some consensus with all the parties that are affected by that. We think the task force is really the best way to go. Wardle: Steve, just for clarification, you haven't formed the task force yet? S. Price: No. We will be doing that within the next week. Wardle: Thank you. Franden: Clair, could you get this wrapped up in maybe about five minutes? Bowman: You bet. I was just going to suggest - De Weerd: John, just a point of information this is the first time we are seeing it too. Just thought you should know that. Bowman: What you see here is the east west street elevation you can just quickly see that there are some differences in that. I will go on past these other elevations. This is an example of one of the slides that we had in for the public viewing just inviting them to indicate their comments and preferences on a survey form. On the furnishing side we start with an existing set of adopted components that I mentioned earlier, street lights, tree grates, trees, bollards and the pavers that we use. Then we go to each of five different specific items and ask for preferences among these. For each one we have provided the nature of the materials, initial cost and maintenance costs and things like that and we are taking public comment on those preferences at this point -benches, trash receptacle alternatives, planters, drinking fountains, including doggie drinking fountains. We have had some interesting comments on that and finally bike racks. The recommendations on each of those will be made to the MDC Board for their adoption as part of the standards. The board meeting was supposed to be this Wednesday. Due to a lack of a quorum it has been postponed a week. So, here is a summary picture of all of those applicants. Next steps -- we assume the first step is the MDC Board has to consider adopting the prototype. Both the overall look and some specific site furnishings. At this point, the public comment in response to two of our upfront questions is overwhelmingly positive. The first was is it desirable in your estimation to do a consistent streetscape Meridian City Council Spe~int Workshop/Meeting July 10, 2006 Page 24 of 25 treatment? Have not heard one negative comment to that. Second, is the model that we are proposing here acceptable to you? There has been one negative comment because one person said it looks to expensive, other than that the reaction to that question has been very positive as well -uniformly positive. On specific site furnishings we will have recommendations quite specific for the MDC Board, but the time we get there I can give you one example. On the benches for example the recycled material bench is far and away the preferred one and they would like to have that with the earth tone plastic slats on it or recycled plastic slats, rather than the gray. That will be part of the recommendation, I am sure. There will be -there is similar consensus around most of the others except water drinking fountains. Once the MDC Board gets to that piece of it, the Land Group will then be creating a streetscape implementation manual. We assume it will have the graphics, much like what we have shown you today. It will have the standards -how far away should street lights be? How far back from the curb are the old patterns set? How wide is the paver strip behind the curb and all of that? What is the list of trees that are acceptable? We will simply take your manual and reference that as an example. We will have a text version of that manual and then we will also have (inaudible) files that can be made available on our website so that any developer, architect or whomever wants access to those can download and drop them into their drawings. Benetton Corporation Construction Company will be estimating costs for Main Street implementation. So by August maybe as late as the September meeting, the MDC Board will get to address the question of how much of Main Street they want to implement if any of it. They have not made a decision that they are absolutely going forward with this. All they have done at this point is contract with the Land Group to do this prototype and bring it back to them for their consideration. Lastly we would have to establish the remainder of an implementation plan at some point. Huber: Well, the only thing I ask is that I would really appreciate if we do a double check to be sure before you do the manual that ACHD staff doesn't see any issues because I would sure hate for you to do a manual and then we are in some kind of not on the same plain thing and so t think I would really appreciate it if you could be sure prior to that that we are all on the same boat and when it's down in black and white, it is a go. Bowman: ACHD staff are represented on the committee - on the staff's committee that is working with this and we will have a formal presentation. Huber: Well, I think it should be a formalized agreement, not just somebody on the committee to be sure that you know Steve looked at it and everybody that needs to look at it does before the manual comes out because I would hate for - Wardle: Mr. Chair. Franden: Mr. Wardle. Meridian City Council Spe~int Workshop/Meeting July 10, 2006 Page 25 of 25 Wardle: If I might - we are in the preliminary design phases right now. We have got a number of issues to resolve. Some of those being legal and what is going to be allowed in the right-of-way. I think when we talk about that commerce zone the MDC Board's perspective is to foster business downtown and certain types of activities. Some of those will definitely need to be defined and their scope and purpose in those zones. So, we wanted to get as a Board, get this out for comment, make it presentation to both the Commission and the Council and I don't see any implementation happening next week. We are definitely taking some direction and we will do all those due diligence. Huber: The devil is in the details. So, we sure don't want to have a manual and have to revise it. Franden: Clair, thank you. Huber: Yeah, it looks great. It really does. Yeah, you can't have anything but a positive comment to it as long as we know it is not going to (inaudible--). Franden: Okay, anything else? Thank you. MEETING ADJOURNED AT 1:35 P.M. (TAPE ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS) APPROVED: TAMMY ,MAYOR ATTESTED WILLIAM G. BERG, 8 / ~~ / ~~ DATE APPROVED , ~~~~i a ,iii~lr;rr: ~ ~ P~ ~" ~ c;: , / ~ - ~~'il~ - J ., CI YCL ,,,, ,9 l(~,~,, ' ~`~ J'/llllliifi1+1,1~~,