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CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL JOINT MEETING
MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL & EAGLE CITY COUNCIL
AGENDA
Tuesday, February 21, 2006 at 11:45 a.m.
Ada County Courthouse
Main Floor Public Meeting Room 1235
200 West Front Street
Boise, Idaho
1. Roil-call Attendance:
Shaun Wardle Joe Borton
Charlie Rountree Keith Bird
Mayor Tammy de Weerd
Stanley Bastian Steve Guerber
Scott Nordstrom Phillip Bandy
Mayor Nancy Merrill
2. Adoption of the Agenda:
3. Discussion of the Comprehensive Plan and Areas of City Impact:
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MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL ~ EAGLE CITY COUNCIL
AGENDA
Tuesday, February 21, 2006 at 11:45 a.m.
Ada County Courthouse
Main Floor Public Meeting Room 1235
200 West Front Street
Boise, Idaho
1. Roll-call Attendance:
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O Charlie Rountree -~ Keith Bird
Mayor Tammy de Weerd
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Mayor Nancy Merrell
2. Adoption of the Agenda:
3. Discussion of the Comprehensive Plan and Areas of City Impact:
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Meridian City Council Special Meeting with Eagle City Council
February 21, 2006
The Meridian City Council and Eagle City Council Special Meeting was called to
order at 11:45 A.M. on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 at the Ada County
Courthouse by Mayor Tammy de Weerd.
Members Present: Mayor Tammy de Weerd, Keith Bird, Shaun Wardle and Joe
Borton.
Members Absent: Charlie Rountree.
Staff Present: Anna Canning, Ted Baird, Steve Siddoway, Matt Ellsworth, Doug
Strong, Bill Nary and Will Berg.
Eagle City Council Members Present: Mayor Nancy Merrill, Scott Nordstrom,
Phillip Bandy, Steve Guerber and Stan Bastian (arrived at 12:45).
Item 1. Roll-call Attendance:
Roll call.
X Shaun Wardle X Joe Borton
O Charlie Rountree X Keith Bird
X Mayor Tammy de Weerd
Merrill: The first thing that we want to do is welcome everybody here and I just
can't tell you how nice it is to work with you and your city and your City Council
(inaudible) we have been in adversarial positions before and it is so nice to be
able to work with Meridian and be able to sit down and visit with you guys. We
really appreciate you and your willingness to meet with us. It is really great.
Let's have a roll call. Tammy, would you like to call your roll?
De Weerd: Will, would you like me to?
Berg: Yeah, go ahead Mayor.
De Weerd: Mayor De Weerd is here; Joe Borton is here; Councilman Keith Bird
is here; Shaun Wardle; and Councilman Charlie Rountree is absent.
Merrill: For the City of Eagle, Stan Bastian is absent, hopefully to be here later,
he is at the legislature; Scott Nordstrom is here; Steve Guerber is here; and Phil
Bandy is here. Thank you so much.
Item 2. Adoption of the Agenda:
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Item 3. Discussion of the Comprehensive Plan and -Areas of City
Impact:
Merrill: The discussion is basically, probably our areas of impact and what is
going on with our Comprehensive Plans and we were getting all grown up, but
we are starting to touch each other again and we want to be warm, fuzzies
instead of pricklies, so I think it is time that we talk about what is going on
particularly in the Chinden corridor and how we can support and compliment
each other and that to me is our goal on this as you guys have some ideas on
how you want to see Meridian grow, we have some ideas on how we want to see
Eagle grow and as we merge we have got this big road between us and what can
we do together as cities to make that beneficial to both our cities and for the
traveling public and to be able to continue on with our Comprehensive Plans that
got planned and maybe we need to make some adjustments in bulk areas. I
know that we both have folks in those areas that are very passionate about each
of our cities and wanting to be in each of our cities and I can only tell you that
after going through what we went through with Star that that is a very trying and
difficult thing to go through and that land changes. So, if I said anything, I would
just tell you that land changes and faces change as we have seen a lot of these
hot buttons now up for development no longer the same people that we thought
we were going to have there. I think that we just kind of wanted to open this up
and talk. We met with your Mayor and Anna and Nichol and I met a little while
ago and we were talking about the Memorandum of Understanding and what
could happen between the two cities as we get close together on it. That never
did come to (inaudible) on that, but maybe we need to bring that back on the
table. We just basically today wanted to communicate with each other and get a
little bit of feeling about how and what is going on in each of our cities and talk.
So, could we just kind of have an open dialogue, Tammy, what do you think?
De Weerd: Yeah, Mayor, just for the record that Councilman Wardle is here.
Wardle: Sorry I am late, Mayors.
Merrill: Steve.
Guerber: As the historian in more ways than one, I thought that we would kind of
go back and look at how things used to happen and how we got to where we are
today and this goes back into the `80's when I was Mayor of Eagle and Grant
Kingsford was the Mayor of Meridian and Dirk Kempthorne was the Mayor of
Boise. There was this battle that was going on at that time between Meridian
and Boise about where to draw the line as far as areas of impact between those
two cities and who was going to get what side of Eagle Road is what was going
on. Every time we got together with the Mayors, which we did quite often thanks
to the efforts of Mayor Kempthorne, who kind of started bringing the Mayors
together periodically (inaudible--) which I don't think was happening. Those of us
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on the outside kept listening to the debate go on and so finally I remember one
time I said look you guys are just going to do nothing but argue about this thing
and never come to a conclusion, I am going to start moving to have Eagle take
over all the area of impact (inaudible) road up to Fairview if necessary and that
way we will know whose area it is going to be in and you guys don't have to have
this debate and we will (inaudible----------------).
De Weerd: So, you are the guy to blame for these?
Guerber: Yes, that is correct. It wouldn't be like it is now (inaudible-------), but
what happened was (inaudible) realization of (inaudible-----) come to a
conclusion, instead of letting Eagle have it maybe Boise or Meridian (inaudible----
-------). So, it wasn't all that long after that that they started kind of drawing the
line on what was going to happen, but at the time it took place part of the
discussion was that the line between Eagle and Meridian was going to be some
Chinden Boulevard, which really seemed logical at that point and time and I think
that if you look back now and everything that has happened at that point and time
there were decisions made that, you know, needed to made and I think now we
are at another point where you look and say, yeah 20 years ago something was
being said about Chinden being the dividing line or something like that. As you
look at everything that is happened and where development has taken place,
where services are and those kinds of things, I think (inaudible------------) and it is
good for us to sit down and say let's really see where the lines are (inaudible---)
about 20 years ago (inaudible----------------) or something like that. (Inaudible----).
De Weerd: I think probably one of the natural outcomes from starting the
dialogue (inaudible--------------) and see how there is a need for more
permanency in the Comprehensive Plan and planning for services and who can
(inaudible) what (inaudible-----------) solidify some of that through discussion
between the cities and the residents that it affect. I think, too, we start having a
discussion of the Chinden corridor, 20/26, what it should look like, what kind of
right-of-way it is going to need for future improvements, how to start at least
looking at (inaudible) sites and setting that up to accelerate the improvements
along 20/26 and I am sure you probably have the same (inaudible-----). So,
these are very timely discussions. I don't know if our staff has had any kind of
presentations or comments that would be appropriate to have prior to Council
having some additional dialogue that will maybe give food for fodder or does that
make sense? I (inaudible) your staff in front of us and -
Merrill: Well, I think maybe where we need to start, Tammy is that we have got
an area of impact that probably needs to be adjusted in that we have a decision
of the Committee of Nine for our area of impact that we have been working
through for years and years and years and the decision of what the county made
and what the Committee of Nine made are two different decisions. Our
Comprehensive Plan follows our Committee of Nine decision, whether or not that
goes to court or not, we have not yet decided on that. But, I think that if we - it
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does include the area clear to Highway 16 on Chinden up there and if the cities in
working through the details on this decide that we are going to make some
changes or there needs to be some changes on that, we are - I don't think this
Council will propose on going back to the Committee of Nine or to the county and
making the appropriate changes that need to be made to do that. Just as a
starting point on that that is an area that has been designated by the Committee
of Nine as the City of Eagle going clear from Linder to Highway 16 to Chinden
and that area and it was a motion then and most of the thoughts that we were
working with really was south of - or north of the bench area type thing, but they
did make that decision on that and that was a six to three decision on that. So,
with that being said that is the area that we probably should first discuss. I think
you have -have you got a couple of maps here? Nichole do you want to
explain? Let me introduce Nichole. Nichole is our planner from the City of
Eagle and she has been working with a lot of folks in this area, also.
N. Baird: Nichole Baird (inaudible----------------). Basically what I did is a very
simple map. It was not (inaudible------------------). The City of Eagle's boundaries
are in the light purple (inaudible) looking color and pending (inaudible)
annexations are in the blue, where we either have on file or recorded with the
county (inaudible-----------------). Meridian's city limits are in pink with the
southern portion of the area of impact boundary as granted by the Committee of
Nine in red. I am just kind of giving you a chance to look at what that means
(inaudible) and I am sure that there are pending annexations (inaudible----). I
just don't have that data (inaudible----). The main issue to bring this forward is to
just have a discussion about the areas that (inaudible------------) so you can look
at land uses and the city did envision a rezone, mixed-use area at the Black Cat
and 20/26. As shown in the Comprehensive Plan there was specific text about
scaling of uses and allowances of uses in that area. Probably going to really
gear it towards (inaudible----) as well as a retail center, trying not to end up with
this strip, but also make sure of housing that was thoughtfully planned in relation
to the commercial and office uses in that comer. Aside from that the majority of
uses (inaudible-----), there is a transitional residential designation or a portion of
that corridor where we are trying to encourage the clustering of uses adjacent to
that corridor. The City of Eagle has adopted that we aren't going to have city-
wide transit service in the future, but there are regional corridors that we want to
be able to make certain (inaudible-------------) in Boise in the future and so we are
willing to envision through our Comp Plan providing some densities and unit
counts in those areas actually promote fees of that facility.
(Inaudible discussion)
Merrill: The other parties on the map that is the periwinkle and blue, blue and a
pink -the blue and the blue on that. I did read the letter here from the Adalpe's
on that and part of this is not necessarily true as far as what the services are
available in that area to serve them. You see the big hunk of land down there
that is in the aqua-blue if you will, that is the Idaho State Park plus some
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adjoining parcels around it that have been trying to get annexed into the City of
Eagle and we are working with the state now and having that being a part of the
city, it doesn't have anything to do with what they can do in the State Park, I
think, but it does give the property owners adjacent the opportunity to do that. As
we go down the river area on that, it is serviceable by Eagle Sewer District and it
is part of their master plan and the Sewer District is putting in and has been
approved that conditional use permit to expand their plant just off the bypass
along the river and on down towards Boise area on that and there are some big
lines going up Linder right now and Park Lane, so the Sewer District is out in that
area and as this area here aggresses that is available for that development in
that area. We also have them east -west of Linder, our West Valley League ball
teams that are very much a part of the City of Eagle and as well as the Christian
Children's Home that we spent a lot of time with and have been involved with
quite a bit with them and that whole area there. As it moves towards the Aldape
property type situation that we envisioned and planned for as part of our master
water and sewer plan to be able to service that area. So, this is area that can be
sewered and watered and serve water by that. The other blue that is west of
Linder, up there that hunk is already a developed subdivision that has been into
the city several times wanting to make sure that they stay or become residents of
the city whenever they are contiguous to something or can do that. The other
land on the other part of Chinden that is north next to the other blue parcels are
areas of people that already have consent of annexations out there. The big
pieces and up to Linder can be sewered by Eagle Sewer District very well. That
is part of their plan and the lines are coming that way. So, as far as sewer and
water that is pretty much the plans for Eagle. As far as going any further west,
we have not -Scott is the liaison with the Sewer District. I am not sure if they
got plans or anything -but, Meridian certainly can.
Nordstrom: (Inaudible--------------). The bottom line is that it's already getting
sewer out there to them (inaudible---------------) all the way out to the Black Cat
intersection (inaudible--------------). Potentially what these stand alone individuals
(inaudible---------) and the ability of those plans to even deliver the treated water
back to the same local. It's an interesting (inaudible----------) how the (inaudible)
cost wise it would be more expensive to do (inaudible---------). In my way of
thinking it's really a matter of (inaudible---) from Eagle Council that it makes
sense for some of the properties to be going towards Meridian just because of
the convenience of the facilities. I think we probably ought to get more specific in
that area in trying to find based on what you heard from everybody and just
exactly what parts we are talking about because I think that is what it's going to
boil down to. I know for a fact that the Sewer District can serve below that
(inaudible) all the way out to 16. I just had that conversation with (inaudible-------)
so I know for a fact that we can serve that area below that (inaudible---------------).
From my perspective that is what I would like to see (inaudible--) and trying to
work across this border and in the (inaudible---) what properties ought to go to
Meridian. (Inaudible---) hearing otherwise (inaudible-------).
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Canning: Madame Mayor's maybe I can give a brief update that would help just
to understand where Meridian is in the process. Looking at Nichole's map - we
are working on a Comprehensive Plan amendment and is part of that in the north
Meridian area and as part of that Comprehensive Plan amendment it does
include the land between Chinden and the Phyllis Canal from Linder -basically,
almost all of the property that is in that area shown for Eagle right now, excluding
the blue property. We did not include those in that subdivision where they
indicated they did want to be part of a city -
Nordstrom: Is that the (inaudible) canal that (inaudible) Linder Road and it kind
of makes an (inaudible-----).
Canning: Yes. Right at bench. It's above -
(Inaudible discussion)
Canning: In that application it is actually pretty consistent with your Comp Plan.
It is a mixed use project. There is two or three at least. One is the mixed use
project that has a component of large lot residential and commercial either
neighborhood serving commercial or a little larger area serving commercial and
that is in your mixed use area. Your transitional neighborhood, actually what
they are proposing is very similar to what you are seeing or what you are
designating is a transition from a little larger lot size and the smaller ones and
even some multi-family, but it does provide that transition to those large lots to
the north. So, the north Meridian application has been at Council for two
hearings, so they will likely take action on it on March 7cn
Nordstrom: What do you have for the corner again (inaudible------)?
De Weerd: (Inaudible--) need copies of that?
Canning: Right now it is shown as mixed-use. There is a more specific
development application that wouldn't be appropriate to show at this point and it
has a lot more detail and that annexation application and conceptual plan is
going forward to -
De Weerd: Can you pass that?
Canning: Yeah.
(Inaudible discussion)
Bandy: We end up losing, if you will the (inaudible) corner for amixed-use or a
concentrated commercial of some sort, I would like to see us re-look that Linder
corner a little differently (inaudible) and maybe expanding the mixed-use on that
corner, potentially to offset those. So, I guess it would just be a question of let's
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make sure that we try and model together on what is on those two corners so
that we don't have complication or conflict or whatever, so that is why I am trying
to ask -
Merrill: Are you talking about Linder and Chinden on all four corners there?
Bandy: Yeah. (Inaudible-----).
Canning: The Linder and Chinden corners are going commercial. The one on
the northwest is so narrow that it doesn't allow for much development
opportunity. It is a very - by the time they take their right-of-way it's very narrow.
So, right at that corner I think there is only one relatively small structure there.
But, to continue on with that discussion during that Comprehensive Plan
amendment -but as part of that at the Planning and Zoning Commission
hearings we heard quite a bit of testimony from the folks down the bench, but
they were not included in the application. So, the application at this point is just
to the Phyllis Canal. Hopefully -does that give you enough update on where the
City of Meridian is?
De Weerd: Now, in the packets that Will gave you, you have several letters and
can you reference, Anna, where those properties are?
Canning: The Aldape property - if you are looking on map (inaudible), you will
notice that there is one road that shows up kind of a narrow road, that is Bosco
Lane going north of Chinden kind of a quarter mile east -
De Weerd: Anna could you maybe (inaudible)? I am not really sure where
these properties are. I know where the Aldape (inaudible----).
(Inaudible discussion)
Canning: The Aldape property is generally just north of Bosco Lane and that is
the letter from Peggy Everist on (inaudible).
(Inaudible discussion)
Merrill: Yes, it's below the rim and it just sits right in the middle of that -
(Inaudible discussion)
Merrill: Well, and the other thing is that if that piece were allowed to come to
Meridian then both of us (inaudible) to the west of -that we are trying to put
together from being annexed into the City of Eagle. We do have property owners
over on the west side and as well as on the east side that aligned (inaudible).
So, that just puts a big hole in that.
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De Weerd: That is not part of our plan (inaudible).
Merrill: Well, I think the important thing is that these properties can be served
and that they could development rights on those and entitlement rights and
opportunities for that. Another thing to realize too (inaudible-----) already tried
and true and worked flood plain development ordinance that is pretty extensive
with the staff to follow it through and to take care of it. So, that is something that
we have done all along the river, through all the channels of rivers is flood plain
development and an ordinance (inaudible-------) that we have already adopted to
take care of those (inaudible----).
(Inaudible discussion)
De Weerd: Can you draw on my piece because I can't (inaudible----)? I am a
visual person. (Inaudible------).
Bird: Is that your west boundary --?
Merrill: It is with the -the block of red there is the Committee of Nine's.
Bird: And this would be Eagle - I mean Star?
Merrill: Um, west of -yeah.
(Speaker unknown): Madame Mayors, I was just going to ask -the last couple
of years the (inaudible---) have been (inaudible) the legislative (inaudible ----) and
they have been looking at opportunities for (inaudible) both drinking water and
sewer districts. Has anybody contacted the City of Meridian about that? Since
(inaudible) lives in this area, he has an interest on seeing what is developing out
there and from what I understand his concern is the political boundaries of the
water and sewer districts (inaudible----). I think what their intention was to look at
the possibility of looking at geographic boundaries. Perhaps the District could
split either (inaudible) and the county and the city - so just to throw another
(inaudible) idea out here and (inaudible) property moves forward (inaudible------)
batch reactor plans. That is a possibility. There is still being improvement,
operation maintenance is the big issue on those, but if there is a traditional way
of handling those, too (inaudible-----).
Bird: Aren't you guys buying some units from Boise Sewer and in your area
(inaudible----)?
(Speaker unknown): Star is.
Bird: (Inaudible-----)?
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Merrill: What we have right now is we have a contract with Boise City, well not
"we", but Eagle Sewer District has a contract with Boise City to serve the sewer
that comes from the City of Eagle at their west Boise plant. At the time that
Eagle Sewer District completes their plant, at that point, they hope to one day
soon be able to draw from Boise Sewer and be able to process it there. The
thing that I looked at and thinking about (inaudible) here and I have to flip-flop
that over to Kuna and what's going on in that area, too, is that -particularly here
is that they have got Boise processing that in the Boise River, Eagle soon to be,
Star, Middleton and you have got that whole thing out there type of situation
(inaudible) if there was an opportunity somewhere along a particular river and
again on the other side of - or out near the Meridian area, you have to really
location areas here to process sewer regionally. You could basically get Boise,
Meridian, Kuna on one areas as well as Boise, Eagle, Star and Middleton and
going out that direction out there, I think it's probably a long term, long time plan,
but it certainly makes sense from the general public and from what is best for the
environment. The other thing that we are looking at, too, is opportunities to do
land application (inaudible). The Clean Water Act and everything that is going
through with that there is opportunities to be able to recharge the aquifers back
with this benefit, this beautiful asset that we have with this reusable water. I was
just talking with a guy the other day and he says how long has it been since you
have been down to San Diego? I said, well quite a little while. He said, well if
you turned on the tap and drank any water you are drinking (inaudible) water.
That is an interesting thought, but it is an up and coming technology. Phil has
worked with the DEQ and that is his background and that is why we kind of went
off on that a little bit maybe in this line of work. Anyway, those are just some
thoughts, maybe outside this box, but certainly we would be willing to engage
and involve in any discussion that could help facilitate the other side of Meridian
out there as well as (inaudible---).
De Weerd: (Inaudible-----) still trying to identify from a (inaudible---) they are.
(Inaudible-----).
Wardle: Madame Mayor's, one of the objectives that I have and we open the
conversation up with the Eagle Road discussion and really who's fault that was -
I mean (inaudible) set on the Council I can say that it probably wasn't mine. All
of the things aside, the one thing that it appears to me that we are changing uses
from the current agricultural land, higher density residential, some commercial in
addition to some of these Public Works sort of situations - we probably ought to
be looking at transportation. I know that the City of Meridian is planning very
heavily for the McDermott corridor and to allow that to be a potentially an off
grade facility and be at high. speed -
(Inaudible discussion)
Wardle: Yeah, sorry Highway 16. In addition to that one of the things that we
are going to need is the ability to function internally with some collector roads and
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a system that works together that keeps people off of Highway 20/26 and
Highway 16, so regardless of where the properties go, I think it makes sense to
have closer to conversations because you really would be using, essentially the
residential collector roads or business development roads. Is that correct,
Steve?
Merrill: We would on our side. I think you would be on your side, too, actually.
Siddoway: For McDermott, along Highway 16?
Wardle: Well, as opposed to restrict access you are going to need some internal
Siddoway: You are going to have to have back-age roads or things that will
provide access separate from that facility.
Wardle: Right.
Merrill: Yeah, we agree with that. We had an opportunity to with that
transportation department this last week and that is one of things that we - I think
we are supportive and both of us are in the same thing as we know that as
development occurs here we have got to move people. We have got to get them
on and off of these roads. We are going to have development, certainly retail,
commercial and that is going to occur. If you put a road in it is going to come on
that and then how is the best way to, you know, jointly support each other where
a light should be along in here and the frontage and back-age roads and I think
that kind of support going to a transportation department is good. I think the
more that we are all on board on the same land use and that would be helpful.
Whatever you guys are planning on the north, on the south side -north side of
the road up there, I think we would be interested in. If this indeed goes into
Meridian then you know -
(Inaudible speaker and discussion)
Merrill: Yeah, we heard from some Spurwing folks when we did the
Comprehensive Plan and their desire was to develop some townhouses and
things and they desired at that time to be in Meridian. That was their request. I
don't know if they changed, but I don't think so. I (inaudible--) on board.
(Inaudible discussion)
De Weerd: If you will speak up and give your name and address for the record,
please.
Doug Carnigan: My name is Doug Carnigan, address is 4410 W. Chinden. I
also happen to be a member of Spurwing Country Club (inaudible----). So, if you
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think of it in two parts, Spurwing has a piece of it that is not yet developed. They
would like to do this with (inaudible) townhouses and it is my understanding
Jacque Hewitt is responsible for that. We could file an annexation (inaudible----)
so that is that piece. The second piece is the members of the area that is
already developed. It is my understanding that they have not taken a vote. If
was to do a rough poll, I would say that probably 75 percent would prefer to be in
Meridian.
N. Baird: You know on our Comprehensive Plan process and our Committee of
Nine process - have a letter from -- (inaudible) also owns property down on Duck
Alley and their direction in that Comprehensive Plan process was that they had
concerns about the (inaudible) area being included into Eagle at this time
because they wanted to develop quicker, similar with the townhouses. But, as
for the Duck Alley piece they really saw that as being part of the City of Eagle
and it being geographically separated -having it developed Boise and Eagle.
(Inaudible---) sorry (inaudible--).
Merrill: One of the things that we learned through the process as you are going
through the process with the county on the deal and going through the
Committee of Nine, which has been (inaudible) painful for the City of Eagle that
we will pass along for you is the only three requirements for a State Law that you
need to meet and that is that you have a geographical boundary that show the
trade area and the ability to annex and those are the three criteria, which the
Committee of Nine -they looked at everything else -both cities could serve. It
wasn't who could serve more efficiently, it was that they both had a plan, they
both could serve and all together things that went into the whole big mess it
boiled down to the three criteria that the State law allows for. And with a
geographical boundary being definitely in my opinion (inaudible) we would hope
that that would be some sort of negotiation with the City of Meridian.
(Speaker unknown): Do we know if this land that (inaudible ---)?
(Inaudible discussion)
De Weerd: Does the Phyllis Canal (inaudible-------)
(Inaudible discussion)
De Weerd: I guess to add to (inaudible) you know I am kind of (inaudible) on
Planning and Zoning (inaudible------) and I enjoyed that process. I also and
maybe it will be naive and that I believe in the public process. I think two political
bodies together is great, but I also think that the people that live in these island
areas should have a voice as well. That has been kind of our approach and
going out and plan (inaudible) trying to avoid these kinds of similar issues to
(inaudible). We are hoping to do a regional public process exercise and bring the
county and the two cities together to include the 16 residents in this (inaudible).
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You get a better sense of where they feel (inaudible------) what they envision,
what are their quality of life issues, what they think (inaudible---) and I guess as
we talk to your Mayor, boy it was over a year ago and came to (inaudible) on the
subdivision out of that one area and take the area on the bench to the west that
seemed because of the large interest of the property owners, the right thing to
do. When the Aldape's came to us she said this is too far in it; we haven't talked
to Eagle to know if there is sewer. We want to be sensitive to the fact that they
have been long-time Meridian residents and they feel a connection to Meridian,
but we didn't want it to be part of an application that we already had because
(inaudible) the political entity with Eagle, with our staffs and we have (inaudible)
to know if we can sewer it, water it and at what costs. As our Public Works
Director will say, you can sewer anything if you have got enough money. So, I
(inaudible----) to any property owner is if we both can service it; what costs and
what are their thoughts? I mean, I don't like to fade out the voice of the people
that it effects to find the solid line, but I do agree (inaudible). We have drawn a
solid line with the City of Boise and our staffs respect that. If a developer comes
and says I have a development and I want to -Boise sewer is right there and
their staff so they could sewer us, we usually lease us, most often it is not. We
built into our master plan. We sized our pipes and we have not only -it's not just
water and sewer, it is also fire and police and schools and all of that. So, it is not
just a sewer issue. It is important to come to that solid line and I think everyone
is positioning right now, even the land owners, where they feel they have a sense
of belonging and those are appropriate discussions. We just did one including
these letters that we have in front of us because we didn't look at them
(inaudible) sewer and water because we were valuing a discussion when
(inaudible) up to that point and (inaudible------) at a later date and we forgot that
and it has become very apparent that you either get a letter one side or the other
if those discussions (inaudible----).
Merrill: Mayor and I so appreciate that and agree with that 100 percent. That is
exactly what we did in our Comprehensive Plan, too. Let me take you one step
further since we have gone through the process on this and let you know what
has happened on that. In the midst of the heat of the fracas of this battle, if you
will, for the impact area out there. There were a lot of property owners that pretty
much drew the lines for either side or however they wanted to see the city grow
or however they wanted to be involved with it, if they wanted to be in one city or
they wanted to be in the other city. During this, what has it been two year
process that we have been through? A major part of that property has been sold
and those people that stood before us that were so passionate about being in
this city or being in that city, sold their property and their developer has now
determined which city he wants to be annexed into. So, the love of our
properties as we have seen go through the process on that, one particular
property was adamant that they did not want to be in the City of Eagle, they
wanted to be in Star. In fact, they didn't even want the City of Eagle to serve
them or be served by the Boise Sewer District. Well, that property is now sold.
The developers now want to build in Eagle and we have to go back and redo that
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contract that excluded them out because of where that piece of property is, it
can't be served the other way and it's a big, huge headache on that. So, I think
that we want to listen to the people that are living here. That is their property. It
is where they lived; it's where we have all lived. We love our property. We love
the connections that we have. But, we know that as this land is - we all know
what has happened. Look at what's happened with the pink? Look at what's
happened with the blue? Look how fast this land is developing out in that area?
It is huge and - we cannot keep that also in mind that it is going to flip.
De Weerd: Well, and that is where our relationship with the City of Boise once
you (inaudible----) came in very handy is that we have a development just to the
south of Ustick that half of the subdivision is in Boise and half is in Meridian
because the bought the pieces at different times and it was such a hassle even
bringing sewer over here that we said no, that we are not releasing to Boise that
this is a Meridian piece and (inaudible---).
Merrill: We have the same agreement with Boise and we are right next door to
them on (inaudible------).
Siddoway: If I might, I thought I might try and frame discussions of what I see as
the two main questions for this area that we are talking about right now in north
of Chinden. The first is that the City of Meridian is proposing an area of impact
expansion from Chinden up to the bench between Linder and McDermott. So,
the first question is is their general agreement with that area going to Meridian?
I wasn't at the meeting last year, but I had heard that there was some discussion
last year that suggested that there was some general agreement that that would
work. Now, the second question - we have since been approached by the
properties below the bench and towards the river and the question is whether the
City of Meridian is wanting or desires to take that area into its area of impact
also? The second question would then be does Meridian want it? Does Eagle
want it? Is there a general agreement, which I sense in general of Meridian
going up to the bench and stopping there and letting Eagle have along the bench
down into the river bottom? I don't know if that helps frame the question, but I
just thought I would throw that out there.
Merrill: My Council or your Council or whichever Council. Stan, you haven't had
anything to say. Welcome, Stan. Stan is here, I might add.
Bastian: Thank you. I just wanted to understand the map here. The red line?
Merrill: The red line is the Committee of Nine's recommendation.
Bastian: For the City of --?
Merrill: Of Eagle.
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Bastian: And what has just been proposed is going from Linder all the way to -
(Tape turned over)
(Inaudible discussion)
Merrill: The Committee of Nine is the process that when you have a
disagreement with the county -the Committee of Nine is the three Ada County
Commissioners, three of the -well, myself and two of the City Councilmen and
three at large citizens.
(Inaudible discussion)
Merrill: Not necessarily. They could have been. The law allows for the City of
Eagle to make the choices of who sits on that board. We allowed - we
discussed that with the county and together jointly we chose the three citizens.
(Inaudible discussion)
Merrill: Umm, no. A retired judge, a developer, an attorney and a developer.
Bastian: Madame Mayors. Steve, I think your comments are the (inaudible)
issue pertinent to - or at least the way that I saw them - as the first question
being where these lines are being drawn and sounds like discussion today and
before today was that the McDermott, Linder to the Phyllis Canal in the area that
we propose as the expanded area of impact, nobody has an objection to and I
haven't seen any particular property owners within that area that has any
objection to that expansion. I guess the first step that everyone is on the same
page with?
Guerber: I guess I could speak on behalf of everybody. I guess that there is an
interesting sidebar that is going on here, which is just -since we have that one
property on the west side of Linder, why not just go ahead and (inaudible) the
corner and then we got maybe even a (inaudible----) the canal with a bench and
then we have hard boundary on the west (inaudible-----) leaves that little parcel
right on the corner (inaudible) draws a straight line. I like that idea.
Canning: Madame Mayors, Council members we already do have an annexation
request in (inaudible----) for those properties.
Guerber: For that corner? That little deal?
Canning: Everything excluding the residential properties -
Guerber: When do you have that (inaudible---)?
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Canning: They are asking for mixed use designation and then proposing some
transitional density of residential that goes from townhouses to 17,000 or 18,000
square foot lots to the north end of the property and they are also asking for
some commercial uses right along Chinden.
(Speaker unknown): And that is all one owner?
Canning: Yes. It was under one development application.
(Speaker unknown): But it brings that corner in -that whole section would be
(inaudible----)?
Merrill: Yeah, that whole area there.
(Inaudible discussion)
Borton: Madame Mayors, I was just going to say -that is public process. And it
kind of going in to all of the things that we have talked about so far as far as what
would make sense for the respective cities -the difficulty or ease of serving
utilities in these areas, but (inaudible---------) developed, but it is obvious to me
that the folks with the largest land parcel here is for (inaudible----). That is the
only question (inaudible----) is how we are going to split this along the Phyllis
Canal and how do we incorporate the rest of the (inaudible---)?
Bastian: Joe, I think we are in agreement that that makes sense, that that
geographic boundary (inaudible--).
(Inaudible discussion)
Bastian: I think the issue that we are sensitive to is going to be on the bench
down to the river and so I just would like to know what your thoughts are about
that. I understand that the property owner would like to be annexed into the City
of Meridian. The Aldape property, I would just like to know how our Council feels
and how your Council feels about that issue?
De Weerd: I guess, Stan, as a Council we haven't had that discussion as that
letter at the end and now the subsequent letters on additional landowners in that
area who have also made similar requests. We told them that right now we are
in the process of this Comp Plan revision and that is not a part of it. So, it is
something that I think our cities need to talk about with those property owners
and maybe it starts with our staffs and the property owners, or --?
Merrill: -- and the sewer districts. I think what can happen -
De Weerd: (Inaudible---) get together.
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Wardle: Madame Mayors, certainly to clarify - we are in the process of looking
at expanding our area of impact we haven't had this discussion within our City
Council as to what our recommended action would be in this specific instance
and it appears to me that we are talking really of some very specific properties,
but from a Council perspective we need to make some policy decisions on and
we have a general policy of working together with cities and being partners in
those types of arrangements, but we haven't addressed it individually and I -
someone mentioned the public process and I believe that there is a public
process for the Council to consider those things, so while we may want to draw a
line here at this table, I just don't know that that is a possibility for today. I am
sensitive to the things that have been brought up. Flood management is one of
those that we don't feel that with the Boise River in the City of Meridian as a
waterway through our community - it is not an issue that we have broached at
this point and time.
Merrill: I think that probably what we should discuss is where are you in the
process with the county? You know, if you are willing to share that with us with
your request for the area of impact and if we can come to some kind of an
agreement on this - what we should do with our Committee of Nine
recommendation in order to correlate that with your requests for you area of
impact, which would also facilitate our area of impact. So, I think that's probably
- where is Bill -it's attorney type of stuff and staffs type of stuff I would think
would probably be the next kind of consideration and discussion that we would
want.
De Weerd: I guess I appreciate the (inaudible) on two different issues. One is
the Comp Plan and then the overlap with yours and I think we are in consensus
on that and we would like to move forward. Council will be hearing that again on
March 7th to what we anticipate make the final recommendation so that it then
goes forward to the county.
Merrill: You need a letter on that from us on how we feel (inaudible) about this
(inaudible). We have a meeting tonight with the Council and we could make a
motion and put together aletter -
De Weerd: I would really appreciate that. The second issue would be additional
correspondence that, I think, you have received and we received that has some
other issues that have been raised and we need to work together to find that line
that we all feel comfortable in drawing. At this point as we move forward with
this, we thought we were drawing that line, but I do think that our cities, our
staffs, the Council Presidents and Mayors maybe get together with those
residents and talk and see how we want to proceed and in response to property
owners and what the requests are. That is a separate issue and then maybe we
can start finding that solid line because there is a conflict of state code. You can
(inaudible) to get these area of impact lines drawn and then some request
annexation - if you don't have good, solid relationships, those lines mean
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nothing. They mean absolutely nothing and when you master plan your
community, master plan your sites or try to look at where your fire station should
be located, you look at all the different associated services and that master plan
seems to go down the tubes because someone has just taken a major chunk out
of the area that you have planned for, I think that is (inaudible) and you are not
doing your citizens the due diligence of being frugal with their tax paying dollars
and how to get efficiencies and your economies or scales through those
provisions of services. So, if we can get through this one piece with COMPASS
and plan that we are moving forward with and that we have agreement on and
then have an agreement to get together and then talk about the next set and then
start looking towards the end result where we would like to find those lines that
we have good dialogue if someone wants to come and we have found a couple
of incidences in Boise where we have a no-man's land that can't (inaudible) and
it makes sense to either pull it into Meridian or into Boise once you start getting
into a different level of analyzing it. So, then our staffs come together on that
micro level. Does that sound like a reasonable approach?
Merrill: That sounds like a reasonable approach. I think that the other thing - I
agree the areas of impact that we have seen are worthless as far as I am
concerned. Memorandums of Understanding between cities coming together to
me would mean a lot more as we (inaudible) follow through with the City
Council's as we move through the things, like we have with Boise and you
probably have with Boise also.
Wardle: And if I may just a little further - I know that our staff, the Public Works
staff hasn't at the direction of Council really considered their service ability below
them. I would think that the first step would be to get the two staffs together at
the Public Works Department to look at that so that we can all have a more
informed decision to make and then certainly work together with Councils and
property owners to make them more -
Merrill: I would tell you that this area that you are talking about below the bench
is in our water master plan and has been planned for types or size. The wells
are (inaudible----) determined to be, as well the sewer has been planned for that
area. So, even though it is not being built yet they know where all of the pipes
are, they know how it is going to be served and it's there. It already has a master
plan both for water and sewer for that full area.
(Inaudible discussion)
Merrill: We do have those plans and we would be happy to sit down with staffs
and see how that goes.
Canning: Madame Mayors and members of the Councils, just regarding Mayor
Merrill's issue on the finding of where we are with the areas of the impact
process. My understanding is the county has so many other ways right now,
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Page 18 of 23
which amendments -which would be considered amendments through the
Comprehensive Plan that the soonest that ours would be likely to discussed is in
September. So, we areaways off from needing a letter.
Merrill: All right.
Canning: I think that the next (inaudible) milestone that comes up relative to the
discussions (inaudible------) regarding rural area, which (inaudible) in March and
as it stands you're current request includes the overlap area. That would be the
next big milestones.
De Weerd: But, I think our Council would appreciate a letter because (inaudible)
a decision that we are moving forward with an agreement with the City of Eagle.
Merrill: Well, I would think that we would like a (inaudible) at that, too, from our
proper Councils if we are going to have to meet with the county on this and talk
about this area of impact, that we are going to be with them and then we would
probably want one from Meridian also. We are going to be required to negotiate
the area of impact between the two of us anyway, whether this has not been
noticed as re-negotiation of the area of impact on that, but we could certainly say
that we have met and that we have discussed this area between the City of
Meridian and the City of Eagle and that we are working on trying to come to a
solution between the two of us (inaudible) make that decision.
Bastian: What I think should happen is the two letters, one from the City of Eagle
and one from the City of Meridian would be good things to have, but I think the
Memorandum of Understanding might even be palatable, something that both
Council's agree upon and sign off on and present to the county at the end of the
day, you know, assuming that we can agree. I think we can reach a point where
we can agree and then present that as a unified body, both Eagle and Meridian
and the county saying this is what we agreed upon. I think, then, they would be
most likely to honor that Memorandum of Understanding and be able to go
forward and we would feel like that we crafted it ourselves and I think that is the
way to go.
Merrill: I guess I lean that more towards that we trust you guys. As city leaders
we know that you understand what we understand and the needs for both of our
cities to grow and the needs to work with our citizens out here and the other
things out there. We have not had good relationships with the county. You know
that and it has been very difficult for us to be able to work through these issues
and I just think that the two cities can work together and we can show the other
cities out there and hopefully we can help facilitate and help work through your
issues on the other side of your city, out there in Meridian - we do that again out
here that can set a standard and help you further and that we are sure to
welcome and offer our help in anyway that we can and we are there for you. But,
I just think it is a good starting point to have two good Councils work together.
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Bastian: Madame Mayors a question on comments and - about the
Memorandum of Understanding and get together to create one. Do we have an
understanding or at least (inaudible----) or are you talking about north of the
Phyllis Canal. Do we have a written one?
Merrill: No.
(Speaker unknown): There is not, but I mean as far as the dialogue today.
Bastian: Yeah, I think we have come to an understanding today and I suppose
we haven't included what we are going to do with the property down below the
bench, but I think what our Council is leading to is it is a planned area for a
provision of water and sewer and we would like to see that remain in the City of
Eagle and that the higher elevation where you can service remain in the City of
Meridian. Now, that begs the question and that is how will the property owners
down here be best served and if we can demonstrate then we can serve them
equally as well, that is we can provide water and sewer. I don't think there is a
question really there other than a preference to which city you want to call
yourself. But, I think for our long-term planning of water and sewer and the
expense of that planning and anticipation of that being in our area of impact and
your planning with previous agreements that review expected events should be
in your area of impact. There is where I would like to go. I think that would be a
compromise that, at least from my perspective will be agreeable.
(Inaudible discussion)
Merrill: So, you have a meeting tonight also. Well, this will be (inaudible) I don't
know at your agendas or our agendas discuss it further and then everybody get
together and see how we did. I am hearing that we are saying the same thing. I
am thinking that we are working -definitely we have got to go through the public
process and we want to hear from the citizens out here. But, I think that it is
important for us to be able to lay our cases out before them and say how can we
best serve them? Just because we put somebody in the area of impact, does
not change their address. It does not change what they do or whatever city they
feel that they belong in. They still go to the same schools. They still go to the
same Post Office and still go to the same things that they always do until they, in
our case, request annexation for their property to be annexed whether they are
developing or whether they determine that that is what they want to do is be part
of the City of Eagle. But, the plans for them to be able to serve that area in any
case will be available, not forced upon anyone, but certainly will be available for
during the next years as development process occurs. I think that that is the kind
of thing that we want to make sure the people understand that there is such a
misconception between the area of impact and annexation in the cities and the
people - a lot of people in our process felt as soon as they were in the area of
impact they were in the City of Eagle. So, not understanding that they had to be
annexed and they had to request for annexation -they wanted to change their
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De Weerd: All those in favor.
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AGENDA
Tuesday, February 21, 2006 at 11:45 a.m.
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200 West Front Street
Boise, Idaho
1. Roll-call Attendance:
Shaun Wardle Joe Borton
Charlie Rountree Keith Bird
Mayor Tammy de Weerd
Stanley Bastian Steve Guerber
Scott Nordstrom Phillip Bandy
Mayor Nancy Merrill
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Mayor Tammy De Weerd
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Mayor Nancy Merrill
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We would like to bring to you attention our wishes to have our ranch, which is located at
3200 W Duck Alley Lane, Eagle, to be brought into the Meridian impact area for the
following reasons.
Our neighbors to the west and south of us, the Aldape's and Henkel's property, have also
requested to be in the Meridian impact area.
I have discussed this with some folks on the Eagle utility board and their thoughts are that
Eagle has expanded west towards Star and not south off Highway 44 up Linder Road to
Chinden.
They mentioned the cost of running utility across two channels of the Boise River would
delay that project for years to come because there are not enough large parcels of land to
be developed to move a project like that forward. One parcel being a state park that
won't be developed, also Duck Alley which is a mile long +/- and a large parcel of land
belonging to Spur Wing Golf course that won't be developed, a children's home property
and property owned by a wildlife refuge which is putting the land in a trust to prevent
development.
It would not be feasible for us with 100 acres to try to bring utilities from State Street nor
would it be feasible for Eagle to bring the utilities to our land.
Since our neighbors the Aldape's and Henkel's are requesting Meridian impact it makes
sense to add our property at the same time. It would be easier to get utilities to our
property through the Alpape's. It would also help disperse traffic off Basco Lane to Duck
Alley. This might give some traffic relief to these developments someday.
It just seems sensible, since the Carnahan Development is asking to be in the Meridian
impact area and bring utilities to the rim above us, to keep all the property on the south
side of the river, that could be developed in our lifetime, all in the Meridian impact area
because of the utility connections and traffic disbursement and would lessen problems in
the future.
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The river brings a lot of problems for our property to be in the Eagle impact area.
We feel that Meridian could serve our needs a lot easier and sooner than Eagle will be
able to. So we would like to join our neighbors, the Aldape's and Henkel's, to the west
and south of us to be in the Meridian impact area.
Sincerely,
Property Owners
.~e.~.~-crvJ
Ray Arana
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Tim T. Gibson
C.O . r
th Ysursa-Gibson
•
February 11, 2006
Mayor Tammy de Weerd
Meridian City Council
Mayor Nancy Merrill
Eagle City Council
Dear Members,
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C17Y OF MERIDIAN
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Meridian /Eagle Impact Area Request
Re: Aldape/Everist Property -located between Ten Mile and Black Cat, north of the Phyllis Canal
to the Boise River.
This letter is to notify you of our desire to be included in the Meridian City impact area. We have
met with Nichoel Baird Spencer, City of Eagle, Anna Canning, City of Meridian and also with
Richard Cook, Ada County Development Services and have discussed our desire to stay with
Meridian. Our reasons include:
1. Our neighbors to the south have applied for annexation into Meridian, so we would be
contiguous to Meridian City limits.
2. Sewer services will be across the property line within a year from now, whereas Eagle
sewer services are five miles away and are not even on the projection map yet.
3. The mailing address and phone number have been in Meridian for at least 85 years.
4. The only access to the property is through Basco Lane which is south of the property and
located miles closer to Meridian than Eagle.
5. Fire and police protection are currently being provided through the city of Meridian. The
Aldape property is located only five miles from the Meridian Fire Department, whereas
Eagle is significantly farther, plus they have to cross the Boise River. And just recently
when my parents called 911 in need of an ambulance, the Meridian Fire Department was
the first response team to arrive.
6. Four generations of "Aldape's" are attending, or have graduated from Meridian schools.
7. We have always been Meridianites and want to remain Meridianites.
Our vision is to develop the land into a residential development with ponds, similar to other river
side developments.
If you have any questions and would like to discuss this matter with us, please feel free to call
Sherrie at 888-7700.
Sinc~r~ely, _ . ~
Peggy Everist
Sherrie Ewing
(Daughters of Elias and Margaret Aldape)
• •
Dear Mayor Tammy Deweerd,
On this date of February 15'~ 2006 the current owners of the real properties that reside at 3205 West Duck
Alley, of N 1/2 NENE and the NENWNE, Section 22, Township 4 North, Range 1 West, BM, Ada
County, Idaho. which are Gary Eugene Henkel, Steve James Henkel, and Linda Ann Lazaris request to be
included in as property owners within the Meridian Impact area.
As owners of the property we feel it would be the most cost effective means to provide the necessary
services for future development in regards to overcoming the access of facilities through two (2) major
water way obstacles (Boise River and an Irrigation cannel) from the Eagle area.
Gary E. Henkel
Steve J.
-- - - - _ Linda A. Lazaris
Thank you,
Gary E: Henkel
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CITY 4F MERIDIAP~
c~`TY CLERK ~`rr~~r-
Dear Mayor Tammy Dewt~d,
On this date of February 1 S'~ 2()06 the current owners of the real properties that reside at 3205 West Duck
Alley, ofN 1/2 NENE and the NENWNE, Section 22, Township 4 North, Raage 1 West, BM, Ada
County, Idaho. which are Gary Eugene Henkel, Steve James Henkel, and Linda Ann Lazaris request to be
includes in as property owners within the Meridian Impact area.
As owners of the property we feel it would be the most cost effective means to provide the necessary
services t?or firture development in regards to overcoming the access of facilities through two (2) major
water way obstacles (Boise River and an Irrigation cannel) from the Eagle area.
Gary E. Heckel
Steve J. Henkel
Lima A. LazarisE
Thank you,
Gary E. Henkel
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Tammy de Weerd
CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
Keith Bird MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
Joseph W. Borton &
Charles M. Rountree
Shaun Wardle EAGLE CITY COUNCIL
CITY DEPARTMENTS NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of
City Attorney/HR
703 Main Street Meridian and the City Council of the City of Eagle will hold a Special Joint
898-5506 (City Attorney)
898-5503 (H1Z)
Fax 884-8723 Meeting at the Ada County Courthouse, Main Floor Public Meeting Room
Fire
54o E. Franklin Road 1235, 200 West Front Street, Boise, Idaho, on Tuesday, February 21,
888-1234 /fax 895-0390
Parks & Recreation 2006 at 11:45 A.M. The Meridian City Council and the Eagle City Council
11 W. Bower Street
888-3579 /fax 898-5501 will be discussing issues concerning the Comprehensive Plans and the
Planning
660 E. Watertower Lane Areas of City Impact.
Suite 202
884-5533 /fax 888-6844 The public is welcome to attend.
Police
1401 E. Watertower Lane
888-6678/fax 846-7366
Public Works ; • f
660 E. Watertower Lane ,'" ~ ~.J~ ~;,y ,.,
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898-5500 /fax 895-9551 ~
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2235 N.W. 8th Street
888-5242 /fax 884-1159
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'l401 E. Watertower [.ane
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Fire
540 E. Franklin Roacl 1235, 200 West Front Street, Boise, Idaho, on Tuesday, February 21
888-]?34 /fax 895.0390 ,
Parks ~ Rect'eation 2006 at 11:45 A.M. The Meridian City Council and the Eagle City Council
1I W.Bow~rStreet
888-3579 /fax 898-550] will be discussing issues concerning the Comprehensive Plans and the
Planning
660 E. Watcrtower Lana Areas of City Impact.
Suite 202
884,5533 /fax 888-6844
The public is welcome to attend
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1401 E. Watcrtower Lane
888-6678/fax 846-7366
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s9R-5503 (Hli)
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Fire
540 F.. Franklin Road 1235, 200 West Front Street, Boise, Idaho, on Tuesday, February 21,
886-7234 /fax 895-0390
Parks ar Recreation 2006 at 11:45 A.M. The Meridian City Council and the Eagle City Council
11 W F3ower Street
Ss8-35791 fax 89A-5$01 will be discussing issues concerning the Comprehensive Plans and the
Planning
660 E. Watectower La,ie Areas of City Impact,
Suite 202
884-5533/fax 688-6844
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1401 E, Watectower Lane
888-6678/fax 846.73G6
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MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL MEETING March 21, 2006
APPLICANT ITEM NO. 5-A
REQUEST Approve Minutes of February 21, 2006 City Council and Eagle City Council Special
Meeting
AGENCY
CITY CLERK:
CITY ENGINEER:
CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR:
CITY ATTORNEY
CITY POLICE DEPT:
CITY FIRE DEPT:
CITY BUILDING DEPT:
CITY WATER DEPT:
CITY SEWER DEPT:
CITY PARKS DEPT:
MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT:
ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT:
SANITARY SERVICE COMPANY
CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION:
SETTLERS IRRIGATION:
IDAHO POWER:
US WEST:
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OTHER:
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