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MERIDIAN CITY COUN IL SEPTEMBER 3. 1996
The regular meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order by Mayor Robert D.
Corrie at 7:30 P.M.:
MEMBERS PRESENT: Walt Morrow, Glenn Bentley, Charlie Rountree, Ron Tolsma:
OTHERS PRESENT: Will Berg, Wayne Crookston, Shari Stiles, Gary Smith, Chief
Gordon, Richard Tomlinson, Tracey Persons, Rod Keller, Mike Ballantyne, Becky Bowcutt,
Rod Linja:
MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING HELD AUGUST 20, 1996:
Corrie: Any corrections or alterations to those minutes? Entertain a motion fpr the
approval of the minutes.
Morrow: So moved
Rountree: Second
Corrie: Motion made and seconded that the minutes of August 20 be approved as printed,
all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING HELD AUGUST 26, 1996:
Corrie: Any alterations or corrections to those? Entertain a motion for those.
Morrow: So moved
Rountree: Second
Corrie: Motion made and seconded that we approve the Special meeting minutes held
August 26, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #1: TABLED AUGUST 6, 1996: FINAL PLAT: FIELDSTONE MEADOWS NO. 5
SUBDIVISION BY GARY VOIGT:
Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I believe that has been on the table waiting a presentation from a
representative from Fieldstone Meadows. Is somebody here tonight representing that, so
we can have a presentation? If not can we table and move on.
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Corrie: Is there anybody here?.
Tomlinson: Good evening Mr. Mayor and Council members, my name is Richard
Tomlinson, I work with Hubble Engineering. I don't have much of a presentation aside
from the fact that I did receive, my office received on Friday and I was able to look at this
morning the staff comments and I have prepared a little response letter that I didn't get
back until later this afternoon (inaudible) I brought some copies.
Corrie: (Inaudible)
Tomlinson: If you would like I could go through each one of these items or I can just,
(inaudible) look at this we have basically answered anything on there (inaudible).
Corrie: Okay, I guess we will let you off easy then tonight, ,right now they probably have
some questions for staff.
Morrow: Mr. Mayor I would like to ask Gary and Shari, are you satisfied with the responses
from the letter that was sent out today concerning their comments with both your general
comments and the site specific comments?
Smith: Mr. Mayor and Council members, I guess the only question that I would have for
Rich would be concerning the drainage ponds. We have recently had some problems in
other subdivisions with ponds that have for one reason or another retained water.
Whether it is ground water we are not sure. But the one thing that we did find is that it
creates a terrible nuisance for the adjacent property owners. And particularly in the form
of odor and mosquitoes, I am not sure that mosquitoes was a big issue but the odor
certainly was. This particular pond although it was located next #o a drainage did not have
a overflow pipe into the drainage. The resulting solution was to dig away one side of the
bank of the pond so that it would drain into the drainage along side of it to get rid of the
water because it wouldn't seep out, it just stayed there. So a basin that is a true retention
basin can create some problems unless there is a way for the water to either percolate out
or an overflow so that it can drain out. The Highway District has taken an attitude for
maintenance of these ponds and limited it to heavy maintenance. By that they mean
correct me if I am wrong Richard, but I think it means they will come in with their
(inaudible) equipment and they will muck it out if it fills up with sand and silt. Other than
that they are leaving the maintenance of the pond surface up to the homeowners
association. That would be if it is grassed the homeowners would be responsible to
maintain it by mowing it. If it is not grassed I guess they would be responsible to keep the
weeds down and so forth. One of these ponds on these subdivisions is kind of tucked
around a residential lot. I think it is lot 23 in block 5. We were a little bit concerned about
its general location with regard to access for maintenance. If the Highway District sign off
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on it as far as maintaining it from a heavy maintenance standpoint but I just didn't want to
get involved in something that was going to create a problem for the homeowners living
next to it. If we don't, if we have a retention basin and not just detention. Unless there is
someway to drain it sub-surface wise into a subsurface drainage field perhaps. I have
seen that done before as long as there is not a problem with ground water. Richard has
indicated that will be part, they will be digging holes if they haven't already to monitor the
ground water and come up with that level, that historic high water level. I just don't want
to get into another situation, Los Alamitos is the subdivision that we are having problems
with right now. If you go out there, at least I was out there about 2 weeks ago and it was
just a gaping hole through the bank of the pond drain it out into Nine Mile Creek. Shari
has just said that Whitestone has a similar problem with their basin. So, just wanted to
make sure that we didn't have another problem come up because first place that the
property owners call is City Hall and they want to talk to Shari because that is where I
send the phone call. It does cause lots of phone calls and I know that Shari got more than
she wanted to get from the lady that lives next to the one in Los Alamitos. I guess that is
the only concern that I had with Richard's comments, his response to our comments or my
assistant's comments.
Tomlinson: As Gary indicated we will be doing some (inaudible) test pits out there to
establish where ground water, the seasonal high ground water is and do some swale logs.
So, the possibility that we would be able to put a percolation area in the bottom of the
trench (inaudible) so that anything that is retained from the 100 year storm which is what
we are designed for would in a sense be able to percolate into the subsurface ground
water within the 24 hour period following the storm. Also, the reason we didn't show an
overflow right now on the ponds is we don't have any access right now to that drain right
now, it is on another person's property that is adjacent to us. Just preliminary indications
are that they don't want to have an easement across there for any time in the future. That
would be our first wish is that we could do that instead of building a subsurface trench. We
will probably end up doing something subsurface for percolation instead of (inaudible).
Corrie: Council any questions on that? Any further questions from Council?
Morrow: My only question would be Shari you are satisfied then with the responses to the
general comments and the site specific comments?
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, I guess provided if you make the condition that they meet
all staff and agency conditions I have no problem with that.
Corrie: As written you mean Shari?
Stiles: Not necessarily as responded to by the applicant but that they meet staff and
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agency conditions.
Tomlinson: The conditions that we have (Inaudible)
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Stiles: That all of these things be done before the final plat is done from the staff report.
Tomlinson: (Inaudible)
Stiles: You will provide the plat with the setback lines and all of the changes that are
required prior to submitting your mylar or simultaneously with your mylar for signature
right?
Tomlinson: Right
Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I would move that we approve the final plat for Fieldstone Meadows
No. 5 subject to all staff and ACRD, Nampa Meridian conditions.
Tolsma: Second
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Tolsma that we approve the final plat
with the conditions, any further discussion? All those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #2: TABLED AUGUST 20, 1996: FINAL PLAT: CHAMBERLAIN ESTATES NO. 2
SUBDIVISION BY KEVIN HOWELL:
Persons: Last time this final plat was before you it was tabled for redesign issues. I have
addressed Shari Stiles' comments and the City Engineer's comments. Unfortunately I did
it late and so I wasn't able to get it to Will to hand out to you. Would you like them now?
I guess we addressed all of the comments previously and basically I have just gone back
through and readdressed them. We have made changes to the final plat as you can see
in front of you. There is just a few items in particular that I would like to go over. One is
the concern over the lot size that we had in the subdivision. We have redesigned and we
have an average lot size of 7,042 square feet per lot. We have an average frontage of
74.11 feet which exceeds the R-8 standard. The Finch Lateral was previously shown as
80 feet we have reduced that to 77 feet and we have worked with John Anderson of the
Nampa Meridian Irrigation District. He has agreed to this, it is an actual reduction not an
encroachment and we will do that through a license agreement that is before the board on
the 17 of this month. You can see that from the back lot line in there is a 12 foot portion
of that 77 foot easement and it was originally 15 feet and that is where we have reduced
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it. Also, Shari had commented on landscaping common lot along Locust Grove. We have
added a common lot to the frontage on Locust Grove there it is lot 23 of Block 2. We are
having prepared a landscape plan profile at this time and we should have it submitted to
Shari for her review some time hopefully next week. We have also submitted a
development agreement, unfortunately that was also this morning so I am sure that Wayne
hasn't had a chance to review it yet. But, we submitted that this morning and hopefully
that should be approved and recorded sometime within the next few weeks. Do you have
any questions about the comments?
Rountree: I just have one, you indicated a lot average size but what is the minimum lot
size?
Persons: The minimum for the R-8 zoning or on our plat?
Rountree: On your plat?
Persons: It looks like the minimum would be around 65.12
Rountree: Do you know which lot that would be?
Persons: Lots 25, and 26. I actually had a sheet of paper where I figured it all up but I
didn't bring that with me.
Corrie: Any further questions from Council? Questions of Council for the staff?
Morrow: Yes Mr. Mayor, Gary and Shari, you have a comment or copy of the general
comments and site specific comment responses as provided. I would like to have your
comments concerning those proposed solutions or answers to the issues with respect to
the square footage and the lots, the frontages. The other things that were in the site
specific comments (inaudible).
Smith: Mr. Mayor and Council members, I have just skimmed through these comments, I
don't know that I am prepared to address them as they have been submitted at this time.
I think by ordinance the lots are required to be 6500 square feet and if there are any
questions as to the size of the lots the engineer would supply us with a lot closure for it.
That 6500 square feet would be lot area not including easements for open ditches. Same
thing with the street frontage, we need to have 65 feet of frontage and we have taken that
as being along the lot front from corner to corner. So I don't quite know what Tracey
means on item 4 under site specific but culdesac lots or lots on 90 degree angles, we need
to have the 40 foot frontage on the chord. If we have some corner lots and one side
doesn't meet 65 feet then and the other side does then we require that the lot show which
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way the lot will be facing if that becomes a problem anywhere.
Persons: So Shari, on those lots is that right on those corner lots, the ones we are talking
about?
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, I think that site specific comment #4 was on these corner
lot$ and they have adjusted those. Bruce and I took a few minutes, we didn't have time to
get completely through these comments. But, we did at least get to that one and they have
at least adjusted those lots so they meet that 65 foot frontage on both sides. The main item
that was of concern before was that the difference in the easement that they showed in the
preliminary plat and what they had shown on the final plat. The applicant is aware that
unless they get approval from Nampa Meridian Irrigation District actually relinquishing 3
feet of their easement which is not 80 feet they have to have 3 feet in addition to that to
even meet the square footage requirements on these lots. That can be a condition of the
final approval, they also have a development agreement that has not yet been before
Council that will require approval before we can sign the final plat.
Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I think from my perspective having reviewed the information and just
seeing the responses to the site specific comments, we don't have, the development
agreement apparently has just been submitted and the same with the CC&R's and there
is a forthcoming agreement with Nampa Meridian concerning the 3 feet Shari is alluding
to. Gary is .somewhat hesitant to commit I sense because of lack pf time to review. It
seems to me it would be appropriate for us to put this on the table for two weeks to allow
our staff to do the job they are supposed in terms of reviewing this application and then
being able to tell us if it works as per the conditions or it doesn't work and make those
necessary adjustments if it doesn't work.
Corrie: Any further comments from Council?
Rountree: I think that is appropriate that we consider tabling it until the September 17
meeting.
Morrow: Second
Rountree: I will make that motion then.
Morrow: I will make that second
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Rountree, second by Mr. Morrow that we table the final plat
for Chamberlain Estates No. 2 subdivision until September 17 until we have further staff
comments, any further discussion? All those in favor? Opposed?
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MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #3: TABLED AUGUST 20, 1996: AMENDED ORDINANCE #3-101 -GENERAL
LICENSE CONDITIONS:
Corrie: We have had a request from the Chief of Police to table that until September 17
the next meeting.
Morrow: So moved
Bentley: Second
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Bentley to table item #3 until
September 17, any further discussion? All those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #4: FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR VARIANCE
REQUEST FOR SPORTSMAN POINTE SUBDIVISION N0. 5 BY GEM PARK II
DEVELOPMENT:
Corrie: Council you have the findings of fact and conclusions of law.
Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I would move that we approve and adopt these findings of fact and
conclusions.
Rountree: Second
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Rountree that we approve the findings
of fact and conclusions of law as printed, any further discussion? Roll call vote.
ROLL CALL VOTE: Morrow -Yea, Bentley -Yea, Rountree -Yea, Tolsma -Yea
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
Corrie: Decision?
Morrow: Mr. Mayor, it is decided the variance from 11-9-604 11 is hereby granted and that
the plat must be recorded on or before April 4, 1997 and is then (inaudible) approximately
1 year of the time requirements (inaudible)
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Tolsma: Second
Corrie: Motion and seconded to approve the decision, any further discussion? All those
in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #5: ORDINANCE #739 - BALLANTYNE-TROUTNER ANNEXATION:
Corrie: AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN ANNEXING AND ZONING
CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY WHICH IS DESCRIBED AS A PARCEL OF LAND LYING
WITHIN THE NE 1/4 OF SECTION 13, T.3N, R.1 W., B.M. ADA COUNTY, IDAHO, AND
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Is there anyone from the audience that would like to
have Ordinance #739 read in its entirety? Hearing none I will entertain a motion on
Ordinance #739.
Morrow: Mr. Mayor I would move we approve Ordinance #739 with the suspension of
rules.
Tolsma: Second
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Tolsma that we approve Ordinance
#739 with the suspension of rules, roll call vote.
ROLL CALL VOTE: Morrow -Yea, Bentley -Yea, Rountree -Yea, Tolsma -Yea
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #6: PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR BALLANTYNE-TROUTNER BUSINESS PARK BY
JIM BALLANTYNE: TABLED AUGUST 6, 1996:
Morrow: Mr. Mayor, as a refresher, the reason for table on August 6 was, we had to do the
annexation, was there any other outstanding reason other than that?
Corrie: No, we needed to get the proper order. Gary do you have any problem with it at
all?
Smith: No I don't.
Rountree: I have a question for staff that the responses received from Keller and
Associates July 9, in response to staff's comment letter, have they addressed the issues
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that you have raised Gary and or Shari?
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council I believe that they have or that they will prior to getting their
final plat approval.
Corrie: I see Jim out there going yes.
Morrow: I have a question for Gary in terms of that same Keller letter, I had tagged here
that under response to site specific comment #3 they are requesting that the sanitary
sewer extension along the Fuller access easement be omitted. What is the status of that
now?
Smith: Mr. Mayor and Council members, Councilman Morrow, the sewer line extension
in that easement would be required if property adjacent to that easement needs sewer
service. There is a sewer line that is being constructed in Meridian Road by Rick Thomas
and part of his development would build that sewer. It is at a fair depth that sewer line
could be extended to the west. So we just need to work out the details of how far west that
sewer line could be extended. A similar issue I guess would be the disposition of that
easement road and what its surfacing is going to be. I think that one of the reasons .for my
comment was to get if it is going to be paved for example that we need to get the sewer
line installed under the pavement, ahead of the pavement so that we don't have a five year
moratorium to deal with. I suspect that I have talked to Rod about this but I can't
remember what we discussed. He is here this evening and maybe he can help us out a
little bit.
Linja: My name is Rod Linja with Keller Associates, I have talked about this with Gary and
one of the ideas or thoughts was that this access across that easement if built if needed
so forth to give that second access depending on how the Meridian Road is actually
improved or what year that is improved. The requirement by ACRD requires a 29 foot road
and all roads within the plat are 41 feet. What our comment is it really doesn't provide any
benefit to the Troutner Business Park and if indeed it was needed at a later time it could
be built outside an existing paved 29 foot access. So it wouldn't really have an effect on
any five year moratorium because it could be built outside the 29 foot width. That was our
comment on it. Along with the thought of not knowing how best the property that it is
actually going through would be served by sanitary sewer whether it would be directly to
Meridian Road or to the sewer line that is in this easement so our concern was one it
doesn't have any benefit to the park and second it may not serve any use at all in the
future. If it was needed at some time in the future it could be built without going through
and cutting the paved surtace. That was our request.
Morrow: Question Mr. Mayor, did you indicate, I thought I heard you say when that access
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road was built, it appears to me that if I am understanding the concept right here that it is
built right upfront, is it, because it is the second access into the property.
Linja: The way that it is set up right now is it is phased, there are two phases, two primary
phases. The first phase abuts Franklin Road and goes South to Eight Mile Lateral so that
is a very short segment of it. Any, the second phase would be the remaining part of the
subdivision that would require the secondary access. I can grab one of the plats if you
want me to explain that a little bit better. The first phase would be the lots that abut the
road way through here and so the comment from your Fire Chief and (inaudible) thought
it was appropriate that one access be allowed until just time that there would be any cross
over of the Eight Mile Lateral and this would essentially be phase 2 and at that time this
road would be constructed across that access easement to Meridian Road.
Morrow: Phase 2 obviously includes a portion of block 2 where it comes back across the
Eight Mile Lateral, block 3 I am sorry.
Linja: Yes it does, essentially with the concerns of the Fire Chief and having the two
accesses it really restricts this to really a 2 phase development. One being this here
(inaudible) punch this through pretty much the remaining part of the subdivision turns out
to be phase 2 automatically.
Corrie: Any further questions?
Rountree: From what you just said then I am to understand that the treatments on I believe
it is Pennwood and the street to the north as far as the turn around section would be part
of phase 2 or would that be done initially? I am talking about those two treatments there
which are fairly significant issues with the adjacent owners.
Ballantyne: Mayor Corrie members of the City Council, I believe we are required by the
City to put in the landscape buffer, at that time we would take care of those two hammer
heads.
Rountree: That would be at phase 2?
Ballantyne: Phase 1, we would have to do that initially.
Rountree: That was my understanding but I wanted to make sure.
Ballantyne: That is initial and that is no problem, it makes the most sense, that is where
we are putting that landscaping in and we have the trucks and they are paving the first
phase will pave out those culdesacs.
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Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I have a little confusion here. You are talking to Mr. Rountree about
the black with the white marks there, based on that plat it doesn't appear to me that there
are any culdesacs. Originally the contention was that we are not going to hook those up
to Pennwood and the other street and keep them out of the residential area.
Rountree: Right, what they are proposing to do in their lots is to provide for a hammer
head type turn around at the end of those streets instead of just having the barricade at
the end of those streets (inaudible) from the back side they would not go into the
subdivision and then they would be incorporated with that planting strip along the entire
border with the adjacent residential.
Ballantyne: There is more than enough room in that planting strip to place those two
hammer heads that keeps people off those residential lots and there is still I believe 11
feet at the end of the hammer heads that will be continued to be a landscape buffer. That
of course will all be fenced as part of the perimeter fencing and all paved out with no
parking signs to make sure
Morrow: The point is that your users will have no access to those hammer heads?
Ballantyne: Correct
Crookston: I just have one question, what you have shown is a landscape plan, is your plat
the same thing?
Ballantyne: Yes, this is the exact same plat it just shows the landscaping, it is made nice
and pretty so that we can get approval tonight. A blatant attempt to win approval.
Corrie: Any other questions?
Morrow: I have questions of staff, a couple questions, I have notes here that talked about
variance for a culdesac length, is that still applicable here and also a variance for the Eight
Mile Lateral tiling? Are those issues still applicable Gary and Shari?
Smith: Mr. Mayor and Council members Shari said you approved that at the last meeting.
Morrow: Okay, in terms of the site specific comments and their responses.
Smith: Mr. Mayor and Council members I guess I need to go back and revisit the sanitary
sewer thing. I don't think there is enough room to build a sewer line after the pavement
is in. I think the sewer line needs to be resolved ahead of the pavement. If we are building
a 29 foot section and that is a paved section and we are looking at a 41 foot ultimately
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section and we are dealing with the difference between 14.5 feet from centerline and 18.5
feet from centerline that is 4 feet. We are outside the utility corridor for sewer I think if I
remember correctly. I think it would be very difficult to dig a trench to this depth without
disturbing or destroying the edge of that pavement that has been built. I think that sewer
line needs to be decided ahead of this pavement. If the Highway District is going to require
the pavement on phase 2 of the project I think we need to resolve the sewer line
installation at that time at the very latest. There is a vehicle for the developer to recover
some funds, the late comer agreement. If that property develops adjacent to this or when
the property develops adjacent to this access way the developer could simply because
they are the only people using this sewer line they could simply reimburse the developer
for his cost. But the sewer line is installed and the pavement the roadway section is not
destroyed in the process or the time the 5 year moratorium isn't needed to be addressed.
Ballantyne: Can I speak to that? Our understanding Gary from ACHD is that they wanted
us to put the asphalt strip on one side. So the 29 feet, are you envisioning the 29 foot
asphalt strip being 14.5 from the centerline going down the center?
Smith: Yes
Ballantyne: Okay, they had explained it to us that they wanted it to one side and that would
give 12 feet on the other side. Our concern was just that with the size of those remaining
properties or the remaining property that has been split that and the fact that it fronts on
Meridian Road most likely that is going to be a single use development and office building
and they would pull their sewer off of Meridian Road. So we are putting a sewer line in
that may never be used. Our feeling was that because we moved it to one side there is
enough room that if at some point we do need to put that sewer line in there is plenty of
room before we pave it. That is how we understood it.
Smith: That would make sense if the pavement is on the north side because the sewer
needs to be on the south side of centerline. If that is the case then I believe there would
be room to build a sewer at a later date. I hope I haven't confused you too much.
Corrie: Any further questions from staff or Council?
Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I would move that we approve the preliminary plat for Ballantyne
Troutner Business Park by Jim Ballantyne subject to all staff and ACHD and Nampa
Meridian conditions.
Tolsma: Second
Corrie: Motion made that we accept the preliminary plat for Ballantyne Troutner Business
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park with conditions, Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Tolsma, any further
discussion? All those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
Morrow: One final comment for our staff, Gary and Shari this is between now and the final
plat time then we will be covering the development agreement and the CC&R's and those
kinds of things. So some of the issues that you are concerned about with respect to this
sewer access or sewer alignment on the easement road will be well covered within those
two documents. Is that fair enough?
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ITEM #7: REQUEST FOR FINAL PLAT EXTENSION OF CENTRAL VALLEY
CORPORATE PARK NO.6 (FORMERLY NO. 5) BY RON NAHAS:
Morrow: Do we have the exact due date of that, is the due date, I don't see it on this
document, am I overlooking it?
Rountree: It is not on there.
Corrie: Shari do you know?
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, I do not know the date on this one, if you could make it
contingent or to the date the plat was approved. I did get a call from the applicant's
representative today and they are proceeding. If you have noticed, they are landscaping
along the Interstate there, they are proceeding to put in some pressurized irrigation and
hoping that it will make it a little more attractive to people that want to come in and buy
some lots. That is where they are at right now and they are still vigorously marketing but
have not plans to plat at this time.
Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I would move that we grant the request for a final plat extension of
Central Valley Corporate Park No. 5 formerly No. 6 for a one year period from the
anniversary date of the expiration of their final plat.
Rountree: Second
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Rountree for the approval of the final plat
extension one year from the period. Any further discussion?
Tolsma: Mr. Morrow got his No. 5 and No. 6 inverted.
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Morrow: Please amend the motion to reflect so.
Corrie: Any further discussion? All those in favor of the motion as amended? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #8: REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT EXTENSION OF LOS ALAMITOS NO.
3 SUBDIVISION BY MARTY GOLDSMITH:
Corrie: This is again a request for one year.
Rountree: I have a question for staff, is this the first request?
Stiles: Yes
Morrow: I guess the theoretical question for staff is that this is not the phase with which
you are having trouble with in terms of the retention pond is that correct?
Corrie: Is that correct?
Smith: That is correct.
Morrow: Let me ask you this are you experiencing any success in getting that problem
solved other than just cutting out the side of the bank?
Bowcutt: I thought I was going to get away without having to say anything. We did not
design the retention pond in that Los Alamitos No. 2, there are two ponds the problem they
are is the ground water has risen and it is seeping up through the bottom therefore filling
the ponds. The water since it just keeps seeping up obviously doesn't percolate therefore
it ,becomes stagnate, there are odors, mosquitoes and so forth. I have been in contact with
the Highway District, I have talked to Shari and I have talked to Gary's staff. We got
permission from Nampa Meridian Irrigation District to make an emergency cut into the bank
of the Nine Mile Drain to alleviate the problem. We have plans at Nampa Meridian right
now being reviewed. I have been in contact with them, Bill Henson indicates that their
engineer Mr. Sharp is looking at those plans presently. So we are waiting to hear back
from him. I talked with Dorel Hanson and Steve (inaudible) at Ada County Highway District
1 informed them of what we were doing to remedy the situation. One of the complaints is
obviously the aesthetics of the ponds and then the situation of this nuisance water. We
feel that the overflow outlet to the Nine Mile Drain will take care of the nuisance problem.
We have done a drawing which was taken by the clients to the homeowners association
meeting about 2 weeks ago which showed some landscaping. We showed now that we
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have an overflow that we can kind of cut the banks down so we don't have such a, just a
big hole, it is more manicured look. The neighbors, my understanding is they are still
upset, they want a remedy to this as soon as possible. My answer to them, I sent them a
letter that we sent the Nampa Meridian Irrigation Dis#rict is I can't do anything without
proper agency approvals. Until such time as we get approval for this overflow then we can
pursue other remedies for the aesthetics for the situation. One thing that has been talked
about is just fencing the facility so that it is not visible nor does it create a hazard if a child
were to fall in. That was one of their other concerns because of the standing water and I
think the slopes on it are 2 to 1 they thought it created a hazard. So we are doing
everything we can to try and remedy this situation. Any other questions?
Rountree: I have a question Becky, does ACRD have any design standards or criteria for
these detention ponds?
Bowcutt: Yes
Rountree: And this particular one even though the problems it has meets those standards?
Bowcutt: I was told that Ada County Highway District approved this design, obviously in
order to get their approval on their street plans they would have had to have their drainage
approved. The only thing that I don't believe was in compliance is they indicated that if
something has a 3 to 1 slope it needs to be fenced, it is mandatory, this facility is not
fenced.
Rountree: That may be something that we want to talk to ACHD about the next time we
meet. (Inaudible)
Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I would move that based on Ms. Bowcutt's presentation that we
approve the preliminary plat extension for Los Alamitos No. 3 to November 8, 1997.
Rountree: Second
Come: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Rountree to approve the request for
a preliminary plat extension to November 8, 1997, any further discussion? Hearing none
all those in favor of the motion? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #9: REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT EXTENSION OF SALMON RAPIDS NO.
2 SUBDIVISION BY MARTY GOLDSMITH:
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Corrie: This one is October 17.
Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I would move that we grant the one year extension to October 17,
1997 for the preliminary plat of Salmon Rapids No. 3.
Tolsma: Second
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Tolsma to approve the preliminary plat
extension of Salmon Rapids No. 3 to October 17, 1997, any further discussion?
Rountree: I just have a question for staff, again, is this the first application for extension
Gary or Shari?
Morrow: If I might answer that, we went through a lot with Mr. Goldsmith on Salmon
Rapids and the Los Alamitos, I think we are dealing now with the first of the extensions
because we had substantial time with him on these projects trying to get them squared
away. As I recall we were working on these this time last year were we not?
Corrie: Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #10: REQUEST FOR FINAL PLAT EXTENSION OF SALMON RAPIDS N0. 2
SUBDIVISION BY MARTY GOLDSMITH:
Corrie: This would be an extension of final plat date to January 18, 1997 am I correct?
Shari has a letter.
Morrow: I guess I am a little confused by this letter, it says the Council approved the
extension of the final plat of Salmon Rapids No. 2 on May 21, 1996. This would extend
the final plat date to January 18, 1997 if we approved it. May 21, 1996 would that not run
fo May 21, 1997?
Rountree: Not if went back to the original plat approval.
Morrow: (Inaudible)
Stiles: Councilman Rountree, Mayor and Council, I did write the applicant a letter that
indicated Salmon Rapids No. 2 was not eligible for another extension that they would have
to go through the variance process.
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Corrie: So this was a second request for an extension?
Stiles: Yes
Rountree: An extension of an extension.
Morrow: Are you indicating then Shari that the original extension that we did the one year
extension expired on May 21 of this year?
Stiles: They would have until May 21, 1997 with the extension of Salmon Rapids No. 2 to
plat. No I am sorry the extension was to May 21, (Inaudible)
Rountree: It is either a typo or it is overdue.
Stiles: He was requesting an extension beyond the January 18, 1997 date to plat Salmon
Rapids No. 2. That was what his request was for. He wanted an additional 6 months
beyond the January 18, 1997 date.
Morrow: So I am still confused here. The original final plat was due to expire on May 21,
1996 or it expired May 21, 1995 we granted a one year extension to May 21, 1996 and
now 3 or 4 months that it has been expired and he is asking fora 6 month extension to
January 18, 1997.
Rountree: Mr. Morrow, we granted an extension May 21 far 6 months to November 5 of
1997 at the or 1996 at the request of Mr. Goldsmith. That was six months.
Morrow: And that was his request, what we are saying then is that his letter here based
on that is not correct. He gets one extension even though it is only for six months.
Rountree: He has had one extension for six months at his request.
Morrow: My question to the Counselor would be is does one extension for a period of time
(inaudible) encompass a year. Obviously here (inaudible) could have asked for a year. So
by virtue of what Shari is indicating is if (inaudible) second extension that is not
(inaudible).
Crookston: The extension is for the period of time that the Council granted, it doesn't
matter if it is for a year or six months or 3 months or whatever. The extension only lasts as
long as the Council granted that previous extension to. There is no right in our ordinance
for an extension, that is up to the Council.
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Morrow: So the answer is basically he is asking for a second extension in order to do that
he would have to have a variance.
Crookston: That is correct.
Corrie: Is that what, yours is a little different than that but I think it is the same thing as that
is that correct?
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council the ordinance reads that the Council can grant a single
extension of up to one year.
Morrow: And he has already had his first extension and now he is asking for a second one.
So now we need to instruct him that he has to apply for a variance.
Corrie: That is correct
Morrow: Either that or file his plat prior to the November 5, 1996 date.
Stiles: Correct
Bentley: Mr. Mayor I would move that we deny Mr. Goldsmith's request for extension of
Salmon Rapids No. 2 and inform him he would either have to file for a variance or
complete the obligation to submit the plat before the closing date.
Rountree: Second
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Bentley, second by Mr. Rountree in reference of the request
fpr final plat extension, discussion.
Morrow: I have just a (inaudible) it seems it doesn't expire until November 5, 1996 do we
take this action now or November 5?
Crookston: I don't think you take any action tonight other than deny the request.
Corrie: I think that was the motion to deny the request. Any further discussion? Hearing
none, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #11: REQUEST FOR BEER AND WINE LICENSE FOR ALBERTSONS:
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Bentley: Mr. Mayor, I have a question for Gary, did the sewer and water issues get settled
out there?
Smith: Kind of, I think we have an item on the agenda for tonight under Wayne's agenda
to talk about those.
Rountree: I have a question, it is my unfamiliarity with the ordinances. Is there a prohibition
about selling alcoholic beverages that close to a religious institution in the City of Meridian
or is it hard liquor?
Gordon: It is by the drink.
Crookston: There will however be a school, I am not sure if it is 300 feet or not.
Rountree: It is considerably further than that unless they are building right on the front
edge of that property.
(Inaudible)
Corrie: Any further questions of staff?
Rountree: I just have a further question of the chief if he sees any reason to, we always
ask for your advice on these?
Gordon: (Inaudible)
Morrow: Mr. Mayor, given the Chief's approval ~ would move we approve the beer and
wine license for Albertson's
Tolsma: Second
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Tolsma that the beer and wine license
for Albertson's be approved, discussion?
Berg: As far as part of the application is to give us a copy of the County and the State
license for this and we have not received that. So I would like a condition on that motion
if you see feet.
Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I would subject the motion to include the receipt of the County and
State documentation that Mr. Berg needs.
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Crookston: You would need to withdraw the initial motion and second.
Corrie: I will entertain a motion to withdraw.
Morrow: I will withdraw the motion.
Tolsma: I will withdraw the second.
Corrie: You may now do the motion Mr. Morrow.
Morrow: Mr. Mayor I would move that approve the beer and wine license for Albertson's
subject to the receipt of the necessary documentation from the County and the State.
Tolsma: Second
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Tolsma to approve the beer and wine
license subject to receipt of County and State licenses, any further discussion? All those
in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #12: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING AND HOOK UP TO CITY
SEWER BY ROBERT HALE:
Corrie: Is Mr. Hale here tonight?
Smith: Mr. Mayor, that name is Flaten, it looks like Hale on his letter.
Crookston: Mr. Mayor, I don't know that he has requested an annexation and zoning at all,
at least it has not been heard by Planning and Zoning.
Smith: Mr. Mayor, may I comment, I talked to Mr. Flaten on the phone, from his letter his
predicament is that the drain field for the home that is existing out there in which I believe
he said his parents live is within the developed area or to be developed are for Danbury
No. 7 I think the number is. Apparently they didn't realize it until they started doing some
improvement work over there and got into it. So that is the reason for his request is to
connec# to the City sewer and water or at the very lust the City sewer because of this
septic tank drain field problem. He doesn't want to pay the double connection fee since
he is in the County and the double connection is assessable to him by ordinance because
he is in the County. He needs a quick fix I guess you would say for a sewer problem that
exists. I don't know apparently they didn't know the location of the drain field, I can't be
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certain of that but I would assume that if they had they would have made provisions for
this. Shari indicates that she thinks he was the owner of the property that is being
developed and so I guess the question is why wasn't this piece annexed because it is just
a single lot dimensioned 125 feet wide by 165 feet deep. Well it is a little bit bigger than
a single lot but it is a one dwelling parcel. They did stub out to the property when they built
the sewer line in front of it in Adkins Lane. So his request for an immediate annexation is
for relief from the double connection fee assessment. Shari indicates that you have stated
that he has not gone through the proper channels for annexation as far as filing an
application.
Tolsma: He said that he needs to hook up to it immediately?
Smith: Yes that is my understanding.
Tolsma: But according to the letter here he would like to be annexed (inaudible) so the
procedure would be a double hook up fee with 1/2 refunded after his annexation is
processed. Pay the double fee up front so that he does pursue the annexation.
Smith: I guess that would be up to the Council to do that, but that would be a good idea
yes.
Crookston: He would have to ask for a variance from the double hook up fee.
Tolsma: If he paid the double hook up fee up front and then go through annexation
process and get annexed could you refund 1 /2 of his fee?
Crookston: That would be up to the Council he would have to request that. He would also
have to pay the double annexation or the double hook up fee upfront.
Morrow: Does he have to do a variance if that procedure is used still?
Rountree: He wouldn't be varying from anything.
Crookston: We would have to at a minimum have an agreement with him that was what
he was going to do. And he would have to pay the double hook up fee and then it would
be up to the City then thereafter to act on his request to have it refunded once he is
annexed.
Morrow: But I guess my question is i the statute that requires the double fee would not
require us to have a variance to enter into an agreement like that.
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Crookston: No, because he is in fact paying the double hook up fee. He is meeting the
ordinance not varying that.
Morrow: (Inaudible)
Crookston: You are not giving it back at this juncture.
Corrie: Only his request after he does the annexation. This is kind of a way to see that he
does the annexation from his response that he doesn't want to pay a double hook up he
could get half of it back if he asked for it back after the annexation.
Crookston: But you don't want to take any action that indicates whatsoever that the
Council will be granting that.
Morrow: So at this time we can really do nothing with this agenda item until the necessary
applications are made is that what you are telling us?
Crookston: That is correct.
Rountree: Other than instructing that he has to pay the double fee.
Crookston: You can do that.
Rountree: It seems to me that they made a conscious decision when they sold and platted
that (inaudible) I don't know that we need to exercise a great (inaudible)
Morrow: No there was a specific intent not to be part of the City of meridian (inaudible).
Corrie: I guess we need a motion either to deny or to accept the request.
Smith: Mr. Mayor, may I make one more comment, the, in light of what has happened in
other areas of town on properties in the County adjacent to a sewer line operated and
maintained by the City, Central District Health will not allow him to construct a field drain
on his property because there is a sewer in front of his property they will require that he
connect. He really doesn't have a choice as to what he is going to have to do it is a matter
of how much he is going to have to pay. Right now the ordinance says he pays a double
connection fee.
Morrow: I think basically what the Counselor has instructed us Gary is that all we can do
with this agenda item for tonight is indicate that we have to deny the request for
annexation and zoning and hook up to the City sewer with the exception by paying the
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double fees he then can immediately hook up to the City sewer and then his ultimate
remedy is to make the proper request and applications for annexation and zoning and at
that point in time once that is accomplished then he can approach the City about whatever
it is he wishes to do.
Smith: That is fine I understand. Thank you
Rountree: If that was a motion then I will second it.
Morrow: That was a motion Mr. Mayor.
Rountree: Second
Corrie: Motion by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Rountree that the request for annexation and
zoning and hook to the City sewer hereby denied. If he wishes to hook up to sewer was
denied.
Berg: My question is are you denying both the request to hook up?
Morrow: No we are denying the request for annexation and zoning because there is no
proper application.
Berg: I know but then are you accepting his
Morrow: We are accepting the hook up to the City sewer with the double fees.
Rountree: Do you want to make a motion to that effect?
Corrie: I think he did and I am not finished saying what I thought he said. Let me go back
the request for annexation and zoning and hook up to City sewer by Robert Flaten is
hereby, however he can hook up to the City sewer with the double payment fee at this time
if he so desires.
Morrow: And the rest of the motion was to be instructed to make proper application for
zoning and annexation. Upon satisfactory completion of such then he can renegotiate with
the City Council.
Corrie: You heard the motion, any further discussion? All those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
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ITEM #13: NON-DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR RAVEN HILL SUBDIVISION:
Morrow: Mr. Mayor I have a question for Counselor, have you read the proposed non-
development agreement and is everything in order?
Crookston: I have not read it, I don't believe that I have it.
Corrie: This came in the 29th of August. Check your file Counselor.
Morrow: Mr. Mayor, while the Counselor is checking his file I think Mr. Smith has a
comment that he wants to make.
Smith: Mr. Mayor and Council members, Will gave me a copy of this non-development
agreement and I have reviewed it. From what I can tell it is pretty comparable to what we
have used in the past. I did have a question about the description of the lots that are being
proposed as non-developed. The legal description that they included in the agreement is
the description for the entire subdivision. I think the legal description since it is not a
platted subdivision no and cannot be referred to as lots and blocks needs to reflect only
those lots that they intend to exclude from development. That is my thought.
Morrow: That being the case Mr. Mayor I would move that we table this until our
September 17 meeting to allow the City Engineer Smith and City Attorney Crookston to
review and have the non-development agreement and legal descriptions in their proper
order.
Rountree: Second
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Rountree to table the non-development
agreement for Raven Hill Subdivision until September 17 meeting, any further discussion?
All those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #14: REQUEST FOR A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION TRAILER IN MORNING
GLORY SUBDIVISION BY PRESCOTT HOMES:
Corrie: Any discussion on the request? Is there anybody here from Prescott Homes?
Berg: I talked to this gentleman when he gave this request and told him that he needed to
be here at the City Council meeting to answer any questions that you may have.
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Morrow: Did he indicate a willingness to do that?
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Berg: Yes he did, unless apparently some emergency came up.
Morrow: I would move that we table to September 17 for a presentation by Prescott
Homes.
Rountree: Second
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Rountree to table to September 17
meeting for a presentation by Prescott Homes, any further discussion? All those in favor?
Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #15: WATER/SEWER/TRASH DELINQUENCIES:
Corrie: Turn off schedule for 8-7-96, this is to inform you in writing if you choose to you
have the right to a predetermination hearing at 7:30 P. M. September 3, 1996 before the
Mayor and City Council to appear in person to be judged on the facts and defend the claim
made by the City that your water, sewer and trash bill is delinquent. You may retain
counsel. This service will be discontinued on September 4, 1996 unless payment is
received in full. Is there anyone present who wishes to contest their water/sewer/trash
delinquency? They are hereby informed that they may appeal or have the decision of the
City reviewed by the Fourth Judicial District Court pursuant to Idaho Code. Even though
they do appeal their water will be shut off. The amount of the turn off list is $16,315,14.
Entertain a motion for the turn off schedule?
Tolsma: So moved
Morrow: Second
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Tolsma, second by Mr. Morrow that the delinquency and turn
off schedule be approved, any further discussion? All those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #16: APPROVE BILLS:
Morrow: So moved
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Bentley: Second
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Bentley that we approve the bills, any
further discussion? All those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #17: DEPARTMENT REPORTS:
Corrie: Gary Smith, City Engineer.
Smith: Thank you Mr. Mayor and Council members, all I have is a sewer pipe line crossing
of the Union Pacific Rail Road. This is for the extension that Ronald Van Auker is
proposing to build east of town. It will cross under the railroad 1621 feet west of the center
line of Eagle road. The standard Union Pacific Rail Road agreement has been sent to us
by them and it requests that Council approve the City signing of that agreement. It is the
same agreement that we have signed on all of the other crossings that we have made of
the Union Pacific Rail Road.
Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I would move that we authorize the Mayor to sign and the City Clerk
to attest the agreement between the City of Meridian and the Union Pacific Rail Road for
the 10 inch domestic sewer pipeline crossing west of Eagle Road at (inaudible).
Tolsma: Second
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Tolsma, the motion to have the Mayor
to sign and the City Clerk attest to the signing for the 10 inch domestic sewer pipeline
crossing, any further discussion? All those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
Corrie: Gary anything further?
Smith: That is all Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Shari?
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council I had one item regarding the building to the south of us.
Dean Ehlert has sent a letter to Mr. Jay Amyx regarding the sales lot and other uses on
the property. He has failed to respond or to ask for an appeal so I would like to ask the
Council to direct the Counselor to proceed with some kind of action against him.
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Morrow: Question to the Counselor, do we not have, is this a process where we just go
back to the court for compliance like we have done before?
Crookston: Yes it is I believe, I am not sure exactly. I believe that just cars being out in the
parking lot or on the pavement in the alley is that not correct Shari?
Stiles: With for sale signs on them.
Crookston: That is in violation of the court's order. We would just go back and go back for
a contempt citation.
Morrow: Mr. Mayor I would move that we instruct the City Attorney to purpose a contempt
violation for the Amyx property.
Rountree: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Rountree that we instruct the City
Attorney to go for the contempt violation from the courts, Mr. Amyx and his selling of cars
on the property. Any further discussion, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
Corrie: Anything else Shari? Chief? Wayne Crookston?
Crookston: Yes Mr. Mayor and Council, the Mayor and Gary Smith and I had a discussion
probably Tuesday or Wednesday of last week, could have been Monday. We discussed
whether or not the City would consider the easements, the late comers agreement and the
access easement of Albertson's, the access easement relates to going into the Lovan
property. The sewer and water relates to going, having an easement to go into the Lovan
property with sewer and water. There is an agreement for covenants, conditions and
restrictions that relates to the access between the Lovan property and the Albertsons
property. I informed Albertson's attorney Dick Mollerup that I would request that the City
consider that but that if Gary Smith had not had time to review the matter that there would
be no ability for Gary Smith to make a recommendation. I believe that it is as in most of
these types of situations with the sewer and water a necessity that Gary Smith approve
of what we are doing and that is where we are now. We have received final documents
this afternoon which I only brought to Gary this evening. I received them probably about
somewhere between 3:00 and 3:15. I was working on other City matters and I did not get
them down to him. I don't know if he had time to look at them anyway. But I did tell Mr.
Mollerup that he could come to this meeting, he is here tonight. I believe if the City
Council desires to hear his comments I think that would be appropriate and to have Gary
say whether or not he has had time to look at it. If he has not had time to look at it then
I don't anticipate that the Council wants to make any decisions. Mr. Mollerup indicated to
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me that he did not necessarily feel that it had to have Council action tonight but he wanted
to get it considered if that is at all possible? Is that not correct Mr. Mollerup?
Mollerup: (Inaudible) Thank you Wayne, as you know we have been discussing the issue
of sewer and water easements across Albertsons parcel to the parcel to the west for some
time and we have had discussions about whether or not the ordinances apply in this case.
Albertson's has come to the decision that in the spirit of cooperation and wanting to get
their store open they are willing to grant the easements to the City. The easements we
granted are basically taken almost entirely from forms we were supplied by Mr. Crookston
that you have done before. We have added the City's signature to them because they do
contain maintenance provisions by the City as to your forms. (End of Tape) Albertson's
is feeling some time pressure, they have a store opening in October and they have a lot
of planning to do for that. This is their 800 store, they would like to make a decision
whether or not this can be their 800 store or whether they have to shift that to another
store within the next 2 weeks which is why we were pressing for tonight's Council. The
easement agreement is not a document that the Council needs to sign or the Mayor needs
to sign but it is one that we would like to get some approval on that it does comply with the
requirements that have been placed on the preliminary plat. As I understand it is now a
requirement of Albertson's construction. I would be glad to answer any questions, I don't
know if Gary Smith has had a chance to look at the final documents. The drafts we
submitted 10 days or two weeks ago the easements have not changed with the exception
of adding the dimension to the pipes that were actually installed. Late comers agreements
have not changed from the previous draft except for filling in the blanks once we found the
dimensions of the land, the actual construction cost for those easement or those pipelines.
Corrie: I guess my question Gary is the cost it seems awfully high at the time it was
presented here Gary, has that changed?
Smith: Mr. Mayor, yes it has, they allocated the costs to the properties on the basis of area
I believe. I just looked quickly at the copy that Wayne provided to me this evening and the
cost to the Lovan property is significantly less than as I recall than what the griginal
estimate was. But I haven't had a chance to really look at it closely. It does look
reasonable.
Mollerup: If I may, Albertson's bill (inaudible) was in the neighborhood of $8500, we
allocated the cost of the entire sewer line not just the additional, but only the additional
portion of the water line. We didn't allocate the line that was run down from the
intersection of Ten Mile and Cherry Lane to the curb cut. I think Albertson's paid for that
in connection with their building permit and then didn't pay the contractor for it. Based on
the allocations of the square footage I think it comes out to in the neighborhood of $3500
for the late comer fee. So it is a significant savings over the actual cost. Albertson's is not
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concerned with the actual cost as much as getting the conditions satisfied.
Crookston: I have reviewed the agreements after I got them, I did that this afternoon. There
are some changes that I would like to see, those are items I think the Council should take
a look at it, I think they could approve them subject to my approval. But I think as I said
we have to have Gary Smith's acceptance of these sewer and water easements and
probably the access easement. The CC&R's that relate to the use of the access easement
really is something that has to be agreed upon between the Lovan's and Albertsons.
Mollerup: Or whoever owns the Lovan's. (Inaudible) the Ada County Highway District
required a cross access easement for both properties so that people on the Lovan property
can cross access and go out onto Cherry Lane and likewise Albertson's patriots can cross
the Lovan property. The idea was when the Lovan property got developed it could be
developed with one curb cut and not two as I read the correspondence from ACHD. That
necessitates that the Lovan's or whoever is the ultimate owner of the Lovan property
because I understand it is to be marketed some time in the future, grant an easement to
Albertsons. So I don't believe the Lovan's or anybody knows exactly what is going to
happen so it is pretty much a fallacy to set where that easement is going to be. This
document says that they will grant Albertson's an easement at a place to be reasonably
located by them. Since we don't know how that will be developed. The other issues with
regard to that agreement are the cross access easements if that property is developed
commercially it will begin to look like the same center. If the property values of that
property should be enhanced by virtue of being able to get the cross traffic from
Albertson's without going into Cherry Lane and having to come back against traffic which
was the ACHD concern for that value (inaudible) reasonable to Albertsons that there be
grocery restrictions so they are not value enhancing a competitive business. Likewise we
would like to have some normal noxious restrictions that as long as it is going to look like
the same center (inaudible) theaters and pornographic things. They are the normal
(inaudible)
Crookston: Mr. Mayor and Council, the CC&R statement is basically an agreement
between the Lovan's and Albertsons, I don't know that the City really has any input into
that necessarily. So I think that the only thing that the City is dealing with is the two
easements and the access easement.
Mollerup: I agree with that Mr. Crookston, with the caveat that some (inaudible)
requirement of the preliminary plat approval for Albertson's (inaudible) become a
requirement of Albertson's construction. So their concern that their certificate of occupancy
be held pending the resolution of that issue. So I guess what we are looking for from
Council is that this document get signed and recorded will that satisfy the (inaudible)
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Crookston: That would be something that I would have to leave up to Gary Smith because
I am not aware of that construction requirement.
Mollerup: I have not seen anything in writing on it but Ada County Highway District is
telling us that is (inaudible) It is a concern of Albertson's that the store opening not be
delayed because of that issue. I would like to try to resolve the sewer and water easement
(inaudible).
Morrow: I would ask for Gary Smith's comment with respect to the construction questions
that are being asked here.
Smith: I didn't catch the comments on the construction part of it. I didn't understand what
was said.
Mollerup: The requirement for cross access with the parcel to the west was a requirement
of Ada County Highway District in the process of the plat approval as Albertson's was
replatting in order to sell off a parcel. The preliminary plat was approved subject to all staff
and agency requirements including the cross access easement. Up until about 2 weeks
ago I have always considered that to be a purely platting issue and not anywhere
connected with the construction of Albertson's store per say. In that light it would affect
Albertson's certificate of occupancy. In discussions with Ada County Highway District
Albertson's engineers were told no you are wrong if you don't do this you won't get your
certificate of occupancy (inaudible). We tried to trace that, we cannot find, we can't
determine anyone from the City that has ever said that. My question is one of clarification,
whether or not that was the case.
Smith: I haven't talked to Albertson's in the last two weeks.
Mollerup: This was some time ago and no one is saying, this is third hand information by
the time it gets to Albertson's and I am afraid it is like the kids game in the circle, I don't
believe it to be true but I thought I would ask the question.
Smith: I haven't talked to anybody about the cross access easement myself. The only thing
that I have talked about is the sewer and water easements trying to get that resolved.
Mollerup: So in your opinion they would not hold up the Albertson's certificate of
occupancy (inaudible).
Smith: Well, Shari was just saying that the Highway District does sign the CO.
Morrow: If I may here, I think what Mr. Mollerup is asking Gary is that Albertson's needs
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the CO apparently ACHD has told Albertson's that they are not getting their signature on
the CO until the issue of the cross access agreement has been addressed and that was
one of the conditions of the preliminary plat. So, what he is trying to find out is if that in fact
is true, is that not correct Mr. Mollerup?
Mollerup: That is true, I don't know quite frankly if is the ACHD signatures being held up
or ACHD is saying that the City of Meridian would hold it up. I was led to believe it was the
latter which was a little hard for me to believe actually.
Morrow: So I guess the question would be is if it is ACHD, if ACHD is going to hold up their
signature on this CO for this cross access agreement if it is then we need to work out that
agreement with them. If the point is that it might potentially be us that holds it up then that
is something that we can handle internally. In that case the CO would not be held up for
their opening. Does that help you?
Smith: I think the cross access easement comes back to the plat from our stand point.
Mollerup: (Inaudible)
Smith: Can I jump back to the easements for sewer and water. I reviewed the easement
forms and they appear to be the same format as Mr. Mollerup said that we use. The
language therein doesn't create any problem for me. These lines both sewer and water
are service lines. When we started this process with the plat re had requested that I can
recall the sewer specifically that an 8 inch sewer line be installed up to the end of the line
that Albertsons' was going to construct for their store. So that the City of Meridian could
operate and maintain, own, operate and maintain that length of sewer line as a City line.
It would not be considered a service line because it is a diameter. Plus it would give
additional depth to provide because it is a flatter grade to provide service to the west and
the intent was to extend it on to the west. Bur right now they are service lines and by
ordinance we can't maintain a service line. So, I don't know where that leaves us other
than we had requested that the service lines be extended to the property to the west for
service. And because the sewer service line was extended as a 6 inch line it had to be run
at a 1 % grade and by the time a 4 inch line was extended off the end of that line to Lovan's
property it is about 3 foot deep is all. It was kind of this is what you get so take it. It is
there right now. Like I say, it is just a matter of the City being responsible for these service
lines and we aren't elsewhere responsible for a service line. We have some control over
main lines, we have the ability to clean those main lines with our equipment. We don't on
service lines. Particularly 4 inch service lines, I can't speak specifically or absolutely about
6 inch service lines but we don't have that luxury on a 4 inch line.
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are you telling me that the City cannot maintain a 6 inch line?
Smith: I don't know physically whether we can or not. By ordinance it is considered a
service line because of its diameter, because of its grade by the Uniform Plumbing Code,
4 inch and 6 inch lines are service lines. By ordinance the point of responsibility for
maintenance by the City ends at the beginning of the service line. That is a technicality
but it is a question that I needed answered because we are doing something different than
we have done before as far as the maintenance issue. Because this easement is written
to the City and the City is responsible for the maintenance of this line. I don't know that
we have a choice again but it is just something that I wanted to bring up.
Mollerup: It brings up an interesting issue, Albertson's doesn't particularly care, I don't
believe, whether or not the City maintains the line. They would probably just assume
maintain it themselves but then that brings me back to the issue of do we need to grant the
easement to the City if the City is not maintaining it.
Smith: No, but there would need to be some kind of an easement between Albertson's and
whoever the property owner is to the west. So that property owner had the right to use that
line I would think not being a legal person but I would think that cures. But I think there
needs to be some protection for their use of the line since it is being extended to their
property boundary.
Mollerup: Our original proposal was to grant an easement to Mr. Lovan and not to the City.
Our proposal with Mr. Lovan was to grant an easement for use of both the water and
sewer lines particularly the sewer line. But that at such time in the future that the Lovan
property could be hooked up to a City line in Ten Mile then the original proposal before it
was (inaudible) that easement would extinguish it (inaudible) Albertson's even agreed that
only the maintenance portion would discontinue so that they could continue to use the line
until such time as it required tearing up Albertson's parking lot to maintain it and then
(inaudible) We could go back to that but (inaudible) negotiating with Mr. Lovan and I have
got this date looming on the horizon of, that puts me back a month or two.
Smith: May I ask a question, why would it need to be contingent upon a service being
available in Ten Mile Road?
Mollerup: (Inaudible) private easement (Inaudible) then it is only reasonable that he hook
up to a real (inaudible)
Smith: I could say that the sewer line wouldn't in all probability never be extended in Ten
Mile Road because it is not going anywhere else. It would only serve that piece of property
and it doesn't seem to me that it would be any owner of that property would want to incur
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the cost to construct how many feet of eight inch line it would take to get to his property
if he already had a service. If the line went onto the west and served other property then
yes I agree with you.
Mollerup: (Inaudible)
Morrow: Let me ask you this, I have a technical question; we can do, what we are really
after here is the certificate of occupancy, we could do a temporary CO given the resolution
of this issue. It seems to me like given all of the ramifications here that this issue needs
to be resolved at least preliminarily by our Counselor, Mr. Mollerup, Mr. Smith and the
Lovans. I don't think from my perspective that I am going to go out on a limb with those
four parties and say you guys work it out and then we will approve it. I think I would like
to see that agreement, I guess the issue here is that pending the resolution of those items
we can do a temporary occupancy certificate as that being the only outstanding item that
allows Albertson's to be open. That allows the four or five parties including the Council that
are involved in this to sit down and look at it from all angles and get everything. worked out.
I think that is the direction that I would like to see us go. I offer that as a discussion item.
Crookston: Mr. Mayor, I don't see a problem with the temporary CO the only thing if that
is granted we need a time period when that expires because like many things if it doesn't
expire it gets left there.
Morrow: I think Mr. Crookston the answer to your question is that with all temporary CO's
there is a time period or there is supposed to be a time period for specific performance of
whatever is being granted for the temporary CO. That would be part of just out it is written
up. I think that certainly (inaudible)
Crookston: That would be fine.
Rountree: Is that a reasonable solution to Albertson's?
Mollerup: It is, I have one comment (inaudible) I have had this argument with Wayne in the
past, before we are granting a private easement for now a private line, I am having a little
trouble seeing why Albertson's (inaudible) so the ordinance applies.
Crookston: I think under the circumstances what happened was that the City requested
the 8 inch line initially and that is what the City desired. Then it would have been a
requirement that the easement be granted by Albertsons, it run to the City, the line got put
in at Albertson's doing without the City's knowledge or agreement.
Mollerup: Well it was after a meeting about the 6 inch line.
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Crookston: Is that correct Gary?
Smith: Yes
Mollerup: (Inaudible)
Crookston: That is all my comment on that.
Mollerup: (Inaudible) temporary or conditional CO.
Cowie: I have a question, what happens though once the time limit is up Counselor, what
do we do then, do we close them down?
Crookston: If the temporary occupancy permit expires Albertson's would have to close. I
think they could very easily come back and say we need some more time to work it out or
I don't see a problem with a request to renew that temporary occupancy certificate.
Cowie: I just want to make sure that everybody understands where we are coming from
here.
Balter: (Inaudible) Surplus property representative with Albertson's, kind of in charge of
the platting process that brought this whole thing on. My comment is pretty straight
forward, the only observation I see is the City has told us to go and negotiate with the
private individual and pending the outcome of that issue or that negotiation our CO may
be taken away. It seems to me that puts the other individual and we have no reason to
suspect that our neighbor is not a good one but it certainly gives them a lot of power over
us in the negotiation process. It seems to me that since it is the City's requirement that we
grant these easements that the City can approve the easements as being reasonable. In
other words like I say we have no reason to suspect that our neighbor is not a good one,
but when you put that much power into somebody's hands in a negotiation it puts us at
quite a disadvantage. As far as the sewer easements and the water easements is
straightforward. Essentially (inaudible) and it seems to me the City can say neighbor if you
want these easements this is what we would get, this is what you get if you don't it is up
to you. Similarly the access issues (inaudible) the only problem I have with the proposed
solution is that it puts us at a real disadvantage. It is the governmental agencies that are
telling us to grant these easements but they won't tell us how much of an easement we
need to grant or what conditions we can make it subject to. So it seems to me that the
motion could be that pending staff and Mr. Crookston's approval we only have to go so far.
In other words we won't continually be held as a hostage this is a very important store for
us this is number 800. We can get it open but if the rug is jerked out 6 months later
because we (inaudible) that is a huge problem for us.
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Mollerup: We are willing to grant Mr. Lovan the same easements that we have granted the
City. I am guessing that we are willing rather than having full maintenance on the part of
Mr. Lovan to do a shared maintenance. In fact I think we would (inaudible) and just look
for reimbursement.
Rountree: I don't know we would expect more.
Crookston: I am sorry I was writing, you would do shared maintenance is that what you
said?
Mollerup: Sure, any maintenance on the sewer line would be shared on the square footage
basis and Albertson's would perform the maintenance and (inaudible). Those remedies
are normally the ability to place a lean if it is not paid.
Morrow: I guess what I would like to see from any of these (inaudible) there is a different,
I don't know what Mr. Lovan's thoughts are concerning this at all but it would be good to
have his input certainly to see what his thoughts are so we have some common ground
to start with as opposed to just agreeing to, had Albertson's put in the 8 inch line in-the
beginning none of this conversation would be taking place if I have understood what Mr.
Smith has kept me apprised of (inaudible). It seems to me that before I would be willing
to set the parameters that I would like to at least here what Mr. Lovan's thoughts are for
his piece of property recognizing that he is not the ultimate user in all reality.
Mollerup: In response to that Mr. Morrow may I ask a question? Gary is the 6 inch line
should be more than sufficient should it not to serve Mr. Lovan's property if it is not
extended?
Smith: I think so, that is a lot of capacity for that size property.
Mollerup: So the only issues we would be discussing then would be monetary issues with
Mr. Lovan and not whether it is a 6 or 8 inch line or whether it is installed (Inaudible). So
we would be back to the maintenance issues.
Morrow: From his standpoint, obviously it is too late now, but had it been an 8 inch line to
begin with then there wouldn't be a limiting factor from his standpoint in terms of the
elevation of 3 foot it would have been much deeper. That might impact his sale at some
point for the need of ejection pumps and so on and so forth. He could make the argument
that it diminishes the value of this property because of the height of the line. Now I don't
know where any of these things are going to come from but I don't think from my
perspective it is fair to give somebody an upper hand. What you have is the preliminary
discussion between all of the players to see where the common ground is. I am a little
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uncomfortable with saying yes we will give, these are the parameters that Mr. Lovan has
to negotiate from without ever having heard anything from Mr. Lovan.
Bentley: Mr. Mayor, I think too that Mr. Lovan is going to have to play a part in this but I
also feel in regards to Albertson's situation that he shouldn't be given carte blanche for the
ability to hold them hostage either. I think there needs to be some reasonable request from
Albertson's in there too.
Rountree: My concern on this is if we were pursuing easements for ourselves and willing
to accept the terms and conditions why would we expect anything different or would be
negotiating for Mr. Lovan if the easements were with the City. Would he have been made
a part of the negotiations of those easements.
Morrow: I think the easements with the City had it been an 8 inch line then the
development potential for his property would have been broader and it would have been
our line.
Rountree: I understand that but I also understand that there has been some direction given
that the 6 inch line would be acceptable after the fact and through a convoluted process,
but there has been some blessing by the City that 6 inches is okay. So at what point do
we draw a line in the sand and say this is what we can do.
Morrow: I think once again from my perspective I simply haven't heard anything from him,
I agree with Mr. Bentley that nobody needs to hold Albertson's hostage but by the same
token Albertson's doesn't need to do somebody else's thinking for them either. We have
not heard anything from that property owner in the process and the original design was
that we wouldn't be going through any of this exercise because it would have been a City
maintained, City owned line that would have been substantially deeper in the ground and
some other things going on there. So I just simply what to make sure that owner. of that
property at least has the chance to be heard. I don't want him to be a stick up guy, t don't
want him eliminated from the process.
Rountree: To try to summarize what has been said then, you are looking at a temporary
CO for Albertson's and an effort on the part of the City, Albertson's and the Lovan's to
negotiate an agreeable easement arrangement between Albertson's and the Lovan
property in order for the temporary CO to become a permanent CO. And the City acting
,guess as a moderator or a mediator in these negotiations.
Corrie: Probably a facilitator more than anything else.
Rountree: A facilitator so we can (inaudible)
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Morrow: I think the City acts as a facilitator so you do two things, one is you bring the limits
of fairness for both sides and secondly is that you have control of the time frame in which
these things take place and can continue to move it forward and push it on so it is brought
to a reasonable conclusion.
Mollerup: I guess my only thought (inaudible) I think absent the City ordinance of not
having a 6 inch line for City we would have more than likely signed that easement tonight
and Mr. Lovan would have a 6 inch line with late comers agreement. We are willing to give
him exactly that with the shared maintenance. I have not talked with Mr. Lovan, I have
talked with his counsel a couple of times. Those conversations were very short and in the
frame of my client is not paying you anything. He has been copied on our initial
correspondence and he was copied on our initial proposal with that response. I don't
foresee a short easy negotiation with him.
Morrow: And that very well may be Mr. Mollerup, in my opinion at least the effort needs to
take place. Once the effort has taken place if there is no willingness on his part to
participate then very candidly our staff goes back to the City and says this is where we are
at there is no desire on Mr. Lovan's part to negotiate and from that point on we make the
decision as a Council as to where we want to go and we are off and gone.
Mollerup: Can we include in the motion that the CO the temporary CO that (inaudible)
before it is ever terminated that Albertson's has the opportunity to show the Council or
demonstrate to the Council (inaudible) and that they have to be found unreasonable before
it can be terminated.
Corrie: Who would determine that Mr. Mollerup?
Mollerup: The Council.
Morrow: I don't have a problem with that at all.
Corrie: Hearing that seems to be the agreement of the Council I will entertain a motion.
Crookston: May I have a comment Mr. Mayor, the only thing I wanted to say as far as the
CO all of the requirements for the CO have to be met. As I understand it you are not
granting the CO tonight you are granting the right to receive it as long as the obligations
to get it are met.
Morrow: I think the motion Mr. Crookston would be that we are in no way impacting any
of the other requirements of the CO we are simply offering our staff an opportunity to issue
a temporary CO for this one item only to be included. It is up to Albertson's and their
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builder and their folk to meet all of the other conditions of the CO and if landscaping can't
be put in then they can bond as a condition to occupy at the date of October 1 if they
wanted.
Crookston: Right, I just wanted to make sure that is what the Council was doing so that we
were not granting a temporary certificate of occupancy tonight.
Morrow: I think clearly what we are here discussing in my mind is that we are not
interfering with the certificate of occupancy process that our staff carries out in any way,
shape or form. We are just instructing our staff that with this one item we will take, we will
give them the guidance as to how they can handle it and everything else is to remain as
normal.
Corrie: Mr. Crookston you said you had some changes are those major changes?
Crookston: They are not, they are just such things as making sure that the drawings the
legal descriptions are appropriately included. There is no reference in the water line
agreements about the drawing that was included in the document that I got. There is a
question about it says that the easement is hereby granted with free right of access. I don't
know that this, I think it depends on whose easement we are talking about. Talking about
whether or not somebody can just go in there any time they wanted to. I don't know that
the City would appreciate that. Again, a reference to the schedule I that is referenced,
there is no document that is to my knowledge a schedule I, there is a document attached
but it is not marked as Exhibit I. Incorporate the drawing again, those types of things there
are not major items.
Corrie: Thank you
Morrow: Mr. Mayor, two items before I make any motion, as you will recall on prior
occasions you will recall that I have declared that I am a stockholder in Albertson's stock.
I would ask the reaffirmation that doesn't constitute a problem in the past the Council has
voted that is not a problem.
Corrie: How much stuck do you have Mr. Morrow, are we talking 1000 shares or less than
100?
Morrow: More than 100 less than 1000.
Rountree: As before I don't see any problem.
Corrie: Anybody else on the Council have any problem with this?
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Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I am prepared to move that we instruct our staff with respect to a
temporary occupancy cert~cate only concerning the item with the sewer and water access
agreement easements need to be executed between Albertson's and the Lovan's and the
City and the City is to act as a facilitator in those negotiations. The time limit cap for this
to take place would be 90 days and that if there cannot be an agreement reached then the
Staff and Albertson's are to return to the Council and the Council will take the necessary
action to bring those to a conclusion.
Tolsma: Second
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr Tolsma, you have heard the motion,
discussion?
Mollerup: I understood your motion to be relative both of the sewer and water easements
and the access easement. I understood that the access easement from our previous
discussion was only a platting issue and not a CO issue.
Morrow: That is correct based on our understanding based on Mr. Smith's observation and
your representation is was a City issue and not an ACRD issue. Now if that becomes an
ACHD issue at the time of sign off then we can deal with that.
Mollerup: My question is 2 fold I guess, by your motion, have we made it a construction
issue, by your motion have we made the ac.~cess easement a construction issue and I
would rather not do that. If it not an issue with ACRD.
Morrow: I don't think that the motion or at least the intent of the motion was not to make
it a construction related issue.
Mollerup: The way I heard your motion was that was one of the conditions of the temporary
CO. I would like it not to be if it is not, it should be purely a platting issue because we
don't know what is going to happen (inaudible) and we may not plat for another year
(inaudible).
Morrow: You are talking about the sale of your adjacent lot to your store, there has not
been a plat filed as of yet and Gary and I have had that conversation. Counselor,
(inaudible)
Crookston: I did not see the occupancy being hindered by the access easement according
to the motion.
Mollerup: That is a clarification, I just wanted to make sure that if we have not reached an
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agreement and we have reached an agreement on the sewer and water and the platting
has not been done or still in process that the temporary CO can be transformed into a
permanent CO. Am I correct in that understanding?
Crookston: That is as I understood it.
Rountree: If it is not then I am confused. If what Wayne just said it not correct than I am
confused. It was my understanding that the cross access agreement had no bearing on
the occupancy.
Morrow: And that is correct, that was the point of the motion.
Corrie: Any further discussion, I am not going to repeat that motion but I think we can get
it on paper, I think we have discussed it and the access it not going to be part of that. Any
further discussion? All those in favor of the motion as stated? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
Mollerup: Just for my own information, is there a time limit on temporary CO's there was
not time limit in the motion.
Morrow: Ninety days, it was in the motion.
Corrie: Mr. Crookston, anything further?
Crookston: There was a question on the Economic Development Corporation about the
attorney fees involved in that. In the past I had always billed the Economic Development
Corporation for my fees, the reason I am asking the question is because I didn't want to
mail a bill to anybody. In the past, at the time I did that I was a contract City Attorney, I am
now a full time City Attorney. The Council has granted me the right to do some private
work as long as it did not interfere. So I just wanted to raise the question as to how that
should be handled. I can inform you, I talked to Walt earlier, I talked to Mayor Corrie about
it earlier and I talked to Mr. Tolsma about it earlier, I can't inform, Mr. Corrie asked me to
do this to find out what the amount (End of Tape) before I was City Attorney, I had 8.95
hours after I was City Attorney. I am according to the minutes of the Economic
Development Corporation I am the appointed attorney for the Economic Development
Corporation. The Economic Development Corporation is a different entity than the City but
the bonds that were approved for Hi Micro Tools and Newberry Enterprises have to be
approved by the City Council so there is some action there. I did not foresee this as a
conflict of interest, I just wanted to bring it out so that the Council would know what is
going on and so that they can take action and I would know how to deal with the matter.
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Corrie: So we are talking 26.4 hours total?
Crookston: Yes that is correct.
Morrow: I guess my reason for asking it to be brought before the Council was that is I think
we need to address this specific issue tonight and then more importantly philosophically
in the future are we going to use the paid City attorney for that corporation as a Council
when the corporation as the capability of hiring separate council. The issue is that it is
billable to the applicant under that scenario. I guess the question in my mind in talking with
Wayne was if it is a City Attorney relationship it seems to me that it gets a little confused
and a little lost and how do you when the City is passing on, the City Council is passing
on the bonds can you justify charging the client as the City Council before with the contract
attorney who happened to have both of his clients. There wasn't in my mind an inherent
conflict, maybe there is the other way.
Roun#ree: I would perceive that there is a conflict with Counsel providing guidance to an
independent group or corporation and providing counsel and guidance to the City Council
at the same time on the same issue.
Morrow: But he is am employee.
Rountree: If he is a City Employee in both instances I don't see that there is a conflict. But
if he is an independent legal counsel I see that there is potential conflict there.
Morrow: I see that point and I think I agree with that. I think also in my mind though is that
if he is a City employee it would appear to me to be inappropriate to have him as a
Counsel for an independent corporation.
Rountree: That would be my position yes. As long as there is direction given to both
groups of folks that are interdependent of one another's actions.
Morrow: I think in the short term how do we deal with this when we allow the billing for the
17.45 hours that were before the billing afterward as a City Attorney I guess we eat that
and then (inaudible) and in the future dealings brings in another, hires another their own
attorney and then all of it is directly billable to whoever the (inaudible).
Crookston: That is how it is done at this time and has been done in the past. I can
appreciate the comments I don't believe that there is a legal conflict but if that is how the
City Council feels about that I have absolutely not problem whatsoever in honoring that.
The reason I brought it forward was because I wanted it brought out and so that I could
either quite frankly either bill all of it to the Economic Development Corporation, bill the
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portion that I did before I was full time City Attorney or bill none of it. I just wanted to bring
it out and have it discussed.
Rountree: I appreciate you doing that and from my point of view again I can't speak to the
legal conflict there but I believe that the perception would be that there is a conflict.
Crookston: I can't disagree about what the perception would be Charlie.
Rountree: And I think that is something that we need to deal with.
Tolsma: So, what you are asking Wayne then is basically that we or you bill the Economic
Development Corporation for the 17.45 hours that you had before you were the Full time
City Attorney. That the City absorb the other (inaudible)
Crookston: The City would not be absorbing it, I assume it would be (inaudible) there
would be a separate billing from me apparently from the time that I spent before I was full
time I would bill the economic development corporation for that time. The time after that
I am not sure exactly how to treat that because if you are going to have the Economic
Development excuse me if the Economic Development Corporation is going to have its
own attorney then I would not be doing that and I would not have done that had I known
that is the way it was going to be. It, I am willing to honor whatever the council wants to
do. The Economic Development Corporation is a separate entity but I fully understand and
appreciate the comments about the perception of conflict. In the past I had done it, I was
a contract City Attorney and I was in essence a contract Economic Development
Corporation Attorney.
Morrow: And I think because of the relationship change from my perspective I think what
I would like to see happen. is that, I would move that we instruct the City Attorney or, let
me start over. I would move that the 17.45 hours be billed to the Economic Development
Corporation for reimbursement. That we absorb the 8.95 hours and that we instruct the
Economic Development Corporation to retain independent counsel on any future actions.
Rountree: Second
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Rountree that 17.45 hours be billed to
the Economic Development Corporation for reimbursement back to Hi Micro Tools and the
8.95 hours be absorbed by the city, further discussion Mr. Crookston?
Crookston: Yes, I just have a question on the absorbed, what do you mean by that?
Morrow: I mean we don't bill anybody for it, it is just there.
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Corrie: You have been paid. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
Crookston: I think we need to have this addressed by the Economic Development
Corporation also.
FIVE MINUTE BREAK
Corrie: Mr. Morrow?
Morrow: In the interest of being five after ten we will press through. I have two items, one
is in our box there was a letter from Jim Johnson the Chairman of the P & Z requesting that
they have the capability of moving their starting time to 7:30 P.M. to 7:00 P.M. on their
regular scheduled meeting. I don't have a problem with that, and what I guess is ask the
Counselor is it necessary for us to have a motion in order to accomplish that change in
time? Or is it necessary to change the ordinance to recognize that change in time?
Crookston: We need to change the ordinance.
Morrow: Then I guess I would like to move that we instruct the City Attorney to prepare an
amendment to the ordinance to change from 7:30 to 7:00 P.M. and the necessary public
hearing process for that to take place.
Tolsma: Second
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Tolsma to instruct Mr. Crookston to
rewrite the ordinance so that they may have a 7:00 meeting with the Planning & Zoning,
just the Planning and Zoning (Inaudible) discussion?
Rountree: Mr. Mayor, just a minor point but do we have to be time specific or could we
allow that t be as determined by the majority vote of the Council or the Planning and
Zoning Commission on an annual basis so we don't have to change the ordinance every
time they want to change the time or day or whatever.
Crookston: You could do it either way.
Rountree: My preference would be to allow them the flexibility to make that determination.
Crookston: Are you saying the Council decide that, if it is open or would you like to leave
it to Planning & Zoning.
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Morrow: Let me separate with you here a little bit, I think in terms of Planning and Zoning
can determine the time but I think that the approval needs to be by the elected officials in
terms of the Council.
Rountree: They can bring it to the Council for consideration.
Crookston: The ordinance would read that Planning and Zoning has the ability to set its
own time if that is what the Council desires, that would be an ordinance that the Council
has to pass. Because it is a set time now
Rountree: Right, as long as it gives them the flexibility to change and come to us and have
a motion made tonight that effective their next meeting they could have it at 5:30 if they
wanted.
Crookston: I think it needs to be a standard time.
Morrow: I think if you are going to do that you need to have public notice requirements
take place at certain intervals to show that it is going to change.
Rountree: I don't have a problem with that maybe it is just getting too complicated.
Morrow: Well I think what I would like to see is that the City Council have the option of
setting those times for any of those meetings and then all that has to happen is the P & Z
approach the Council and ask for the change and then the Council through its regular
process hearing process can institute the change without amending or rewriting the
ordinance each time.
Crookston: ft can be done that way.
Rountree: State that as a motion then Walt.
Morrow:. I want to withdraw my motion.
Rountree: I withdraw my second.
Cowie: Okay, the original motion is withdrawn and the withdraw of the second. State the
new motion Mr. Morrow.
Morrow: Mr. Mayor I would move that we instruct the City Attorney to rewrite the or amend
the ordinance to reflect that starting times and days of P & Z meetings can be set by the
City Council with proper public hearing and public notice.
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Tolsma: Second
Crookston: You don't need a public hearing on that.
Morrow: (Inaudible)
Crookston: No
Morrow: Well then let me strike that from the motion.
Tolsma: Second is withdrawn
(Inaudible)
Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I would move that we instruct the City Attorney to amend the
ordinance to allow the City Council to set the days and meeting times with the proper
public notice for the P & Z Commission.
Tolsma: Second
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Tolsma, any further discussion? All
those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
(Inaudible)
Morrow: Once we set the time it is not going to change every month.
Berg: Well somebody comes and looks in our ordinance book and they say Planning &
Zoning Commission meets whenever the City Council wants them to meet that is what it
is going to say.
Crookston: No it will state that the City Council will set it by resolution. Then they would
have to look at the resolutions.
Berg: And every three months we could have a different resolution.
Crookston: There will be a set time made (inaudible)
Corrie: It probably won't change (inaudible)
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(Discussion Inaudible)
Corrie: I think we will set it at 7:00 and get it (inaudible)
Morrow: The last item that I have tonight would be we have an issue with David Turnbull
and Bedford Place Subdivision No. 1. We released the non-development agreement some
time ago concerning this. It is my understanding that as of now we are still not able to get
building permits for that subdivisions. There were some issues, we have a letter dated
today that was sent to all of us concerning why that is not happening. I guess what I would
like to hear is a small presentation on behalf of Mr. Turnbull and the by Attorney Crookston
to see if we can't get this issue resolved.
Turnbull: Mr. Mayor and members of the Council, thank you for allowing us to come here
and speak to you tonight. A little chronology, back in March of 1996 we were starting
construction on the non-development agreement portion of Bedford Place Subdivision No.
1. Mike Tanner from my office consulted with Gary Smith and they both concurred that
they should some to the City Council at that time and instead of releasing the non-
development agreement they would keep that in place until such time as the bulk of the
improvements anticipated were in place and then bond for any remaining improvements
not yet completed at which time we would come back and have a release of the non-
development agreement. That is precisely what we did and at that time as reflected in the
minutes of that meeting the amount of the improvements anticipated were stated. We had
a schedule set at the preconstruction meeting here at the City of Meridian for that
subdivision. There are two documents that basically control, one is the development
agreement one is the non-development agreement. I am going to read the applicable
parts of the non-development agreement. It says the developer hereby agrees that no
improvements will be installed in said subdivision lots as required by the City without prior
written permission of the City. If the developer desires to install any of the said
improvements for said lots then the developer shall submit a written request of the City
which shall contain detailed descriptions (inaudible) improvements which are desired and
estimated time and cost to complete such improvements. The City reserves the right to
require an irrevocable letter of credit or cash deposit surety agreement in an amount
sufficient to secure the full and adequate performance of the developer upon such stated
improvements and detailed construction plans. All of those conditions were complied.
Developer further agrees not to sell any of the above referenced lots in the subdivision
during the term of this agreement or until a new irrevocable letter of credit or cash deposit
surety agreement has been issued and delivered to the City or until the required
improvements of said subdivision are completed in accordance with the (inaudible) and
specifications. All those requirements, every requirement of this non-development
agreement has been complied with. We have worked with Gary Smith and some of his
assistant City Engineers on that. We have placed in his hands the appropriate bonding
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as it was agreed between Gary and I believe that Will Berg was involved with that. The
other issue then becomes the development agreement. The issue that keeps coming up
in Mr. Crookston's comments regarding this issue of the Finch Lateral and the tot lot and
those items. Paragraph 23 of the development agreements says that the developer agrees
that it is going to prepare and request approval of an amended plat that the requirements
of which shall be at the discretion of the Zoning Administrator. That the amended plat shall
encompass the land currently covered in the non-development agreement. That at the time
of submission and during the process of the amended plat the developer shall submit a
request for approval of a tot lot and basketball court or volleyball court. The detail specifics
of those recreational facilities shall be submitted at the time of submission of the amended
plat even though those recreational facilities will be located in the second phase of
Bedford Place Subdivision. This development agreement applies to the first phase of
Bedford Subdivision. The said amended plat will be limited to a maximum of 8 additional
single family lots adjacent to the Finch Lateral that said lots will each be a minimum of
8000 square feet. That upon approval of said amended plat and in conjunction with
construction of the non-development portion of Bedford Place subdivision and prior to or
in conjunction with development of phase 2 of Bedford Place Subdivision the Finch Lateral
will be tiled, and that a license agreement with Nampa Meridian Irrigation District will be
in place prior to the expiration of the non-development agreement for the first phase of
Bedford Place Subdivision. All those conditions have been complied with, we came back
to this City Council with an amended Preliminary Plat that showed the addition of the tot
lot and the basketball court. We entered into a license agreement with the Nampa
Meridian Irrigation District for the tiling of the Finch lateral, we constructed that, we tiled
that in conjunction with the improvements of Bedford Place Subdivision No. 1 non-
development portion. Every condition in there has been met. So what I received from Mr.
Crookston's office on Friday was a 14 page memo listing a bunch of other terms that were
required, I have detailed my response to those and it is a 3 page letter and I can go
through those if you wish but we have complied with every specific of the development
agreement and the non-development agreement. We ask that the City Council tonight
release unconditionally the non-development agreement and that we be allowed to submit
for building permits. I think you can see from my letter that it has been a seven week
process, it was seven weeks ago today that the Council voted to release the non-
development agreement. I don't think this is Will's fault but Will told us that it was signed
by the Mayor and we were clear to bring in our plans for building permits and then it was
a couple of weeks later when we started bringing in permits we were turned down. It has
been weeks since then that we haven't been able to get any response and now I get a 14
page list of conditions that I don't think are applicable to this plat. So if you have any
questions I would be glad to answer them, I will be glad to go through my entire letter and
all of the exhibits attached if you wish.
Corrie: Thank you David, Council do you want to hear the Counselor's side and then go
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back and forth? Would that be your preference.
(Inaudible)
Crookston: I was not aware that this was going to be discussed tonight so I didn't bring my
memorandum with me. I haven't reviewed it since I mailed, I really don't have time to
review it tonight. But I can tell you that I reviewed all of the minutes and what I found was
to be as simple as I can basically just as Mr. Turnbull stated that in the development
agreement it states that the applicant will bring forth the specifics of the tot lot and the
basketball court and to my knowledge in discussions with Shari Stiles that has not been
done. That is basically why I have not indicated that I would approve of the release of the
non-development agreement. The motion was that the non-development agreement would
be released subject to my approval.
Turnbull: Mr. Mayor, could I interject here, I have attached two exhibits, 11 by 17 colored
exhibits, you can see on the first exhibit and this is the amended preliminary plat that was
approved by the Council. On the lower right hand corner you see a green area which
indicates a basket ball court and another box which is a tot lot. At that same hearing that
same meeting we submitted on the second blow up a blow up of that area showing the tot
lot measuring 30 by 30 a basket ball course measuring 36, by 46. I specifically stated in
my testimony that the surrounding area would be put in grass, that the tot lot would be
sand with a play ground facility similar to the playground facility located in the Mill Creek
Subdivision located on Overland Road. I specifically stated that we had submitted a picture
of that tot lot facility, I specifically stated that the individual or the company that built those
facilities was from South Central Idaho, I believe I stated I thought it was Murta Idaho and
that is what I submitted. Now I don't know how much more detailed you want to go than
that, unless you want me to start indicating where sprinkler heads will go. The requirement
of the development agreement was that we submit those specifics at the time of
submission of the plat. That is what we submitted, I specifically worked on this myself to
dimension everything so I thought that the Council had sufficient information to know
exactly what we were going to put in. If it has not met the Council's approval at that time
if the Council felt like it was not sufficient detail I should have been told at that time and
my plat should have been tabled until I submitted more detail. But we were approved and
I don't think it is subject to further questioning at this time. Ijust -think that is entirely
inappropriate. I think we have submitted sufi:lcient detail and you know what we are going
to build and we are going to build that facility when that phase of the project is developed
according to the development agreement.
Corrie: I have two questions David, those to Planning and Zoning the ones that he has
here, do you have these Shari have you received these.
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Turnbull: Those were reduction copies we submitted those on large foam boards and Mike
Wardle was here to give the presentation at that time. These are just reduced copies that
I had copied off this morning so you could have a copy you could file and keep in your files
or so the Council was all aware of what was submitted before.
Corrie: Do we have those foam boards now?
Turnbull: I believe they were returned to us.
Crookston: I haven't received Mr. Turnbull's letter.
Turnbull: We even went so far as a couple of weeks ago offering to bond for those
improvements even though they weren't part of this plat. I don't think that is necessary but
we tried everything we could to do to get this thing off of dead center. I didn't want to
come back to this Council I know your time is precious and I don't like to bother you with
these issues. But I have been waiting seven weeks and it is not just us. I have other
builders out there, I have residents that want to build their home out there and we have
been held up for seven weeks for no reason. This is not doing the City any service it is
not doing anybody any service.
Morrow: I guess from my perspective when I received this today and reviewed through it
all of this is familiar I have seen all of this before. It was part of the presentations in terms
of the picture of the tot lot, I think that was a response to a question that I had asked what
a tot lot was. I really didn't know until I saw the pictures. So I guess I need to know whit
the definition and specifics is. My mind and I also remember that we had a great lengthy
conversation about these poster boards and reader boards and maps that these guys are
submitting and that they go to great expense and so we were going to have reduced
pictures of those things submitted and return their big displays to them. I think as a Council
we essentially approved that procedure that they could go back to them with the submittal
of the reduced drawings because we needed that as part of the record.
Corrie: I agree, I have one request that those all go to the City Clerk so that he could
stamp them so that there is no question about it.
Turnbull: I agree and that has been one of our little pet peeves is that we have these nice
big marketing boards that we draw up and we want them for our own use but they get
stuck in a back room to get beat up for a while and by the time we get them back they are
of no value.
Corrie: Well you are submitting the same thing here (inaudible) it is a done deal. We have
given it to you (inaudible)
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Crookston: Going from my memory one of the things that was stated was that the tot lot
and the baske# ball court were going to be each a lot size. That is one of the other reasons
why I recall why I didn't think the drawings met that.
Turnbull: We addressed that in the City Council hearing, that was a question you brought
up in the City Council hearing and I said we are planting a common area lot the length of
a football field here. That doesn't meet the size of two lot requirements, two lot
requirement being what maybe 13,000 square feet and we have we probably have 300
times 80 (inaudible).
Crookston: All I was referencing there was the size of the basketball court and the size of
the tot lot, it was stated that they would be a lot size each.
Turnbull: We clarified that in the City Council hearing and the City Council approved the
preliminary plat as it was submitted.
Morrow: Let me ask you this, did you mean that the basketball court be equal tb 6500
square feet?
Crookston: No I am not, I saying that is what was stated to be the amount of space of
where the tot lot and the basketball court would be. I just went from the tot lot is 30 by 30
and the basketball court is 45 by something else that is not the size of an R-8 lot.
Turnbull: The entire common area lot is some 325 by over 80 feet. If you want us to draw
a line and plat separate lots for it I don't think and we discussed that in the City Council
meeting and the Council didn't feel that was a requirement of the plat that (inaudible)
Morrow: (Inaudible) what he is alluding to is that he is saying that it would be of the size
of a lot meaning that if I am understanding Wayne correctly is that the definition then
would be then that the basketball court would be the size of a lot which would amount to
6500 square feet in an R-8 zone and the tot lot be the size of a lot which would amount to
6500 square feet.
Crookston: That is what was stated in the minutes and that is why I said that I did not think
it was appropriate for me to release the non-development agreement myself.
Turnbull: Well the City Council approved the preliminary plat as it was stated and you
brought that issue up in the preliminary plat hearing. I addressed it, the Council agreed
with our contention and the layout we had and the plat was approved as it was submitted.
Crookston: The idea of whether or not is was going to be a full court or a half court did
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come up, the size of the court did not.
Turnbull: It was detailed in our submittal and the Council approved it.
Crookston: It is not detailed in your submittal.
Turnbull: It is too.
Crookston: That each of them would be a lot ann R-8 lot?
Turnbull: This is the detail that we submitted this is what was approved. This is a larger
lot, 339.71 feet on one dimension, it is hard to tell because of the curves but it is over 80
feet on the other dimension, it detailed within that area, a tot lot and a basket ball court.
We specifically talked about the size of the basketball court because you had some
recollection that it was a full court basketball court and I stated I didn't know where you
came from that understanding because you weren't even in the meeting with Walt and the
Mayor and Gary and the Fothergill neighbors and the Ewings. It was discussed again and
it was approved as it was submitted and you came back here a couple of weeks ago and
said it has to be a full court basketball court again. When in fact the minutes that you
copied here in your latest memo reflects that discussion was fully heard and a half court
basketball court was approved.
Crookston: That is right and that is what I said in my memorandum that a half court
basketball court was approved. It also says in the minutes that each of those facilities
would be the size of a lot.
Morrow: So what the point is the size of the half court would be 6500 square feet by his
interpretation and that is the size of a lot. So I guess we are going no place here with that
part of the discussion.
Turnbull: I want to know if anybody on this Council concurs with that interpretation?
Morrow: I think clearly we have two things going on here in my mind, one is that our
concept of the half basketball court and the tot lot were as presented here the Counselor's
concept was that by definition of lot and in the minutes he is saying what size is the half
court. Then he is drawing the conclusion that it is 6500 square feet because in the minutes
somewhere it said a lot or the equivalent than a lot.
Turnbull: that is bigger than a full court basketball court.
Morrow: That is bigger than most everything other than a residential R-8 lot. So the
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question is how do we need to resolve this to get moving forward here.
Rountree: I think we need a point of clarification I think what is presented is what I
intended to approve in terms of a half court basketball court being some 36 by 45 or
whatever dimensions those are and the tot lot being 30 by 30 that they would be placed
on a common lot of the dimensions described. If that is all we need to do is to clarify that
and that is the significant issue to release the non-development agreement. If it is just a
matter of resolving the communication difference here.
Corrie: You are in the process of recording the lot, the 8 homes plus the (inaudible)
Turnbull: I just want to make a further clarification so nobody misunderstands here. When
we entered into the development agreement we talked about the tot lot as being part of
phase 2 because that was going to be across the street. Now our Ada County Engineer
Mr. Priester has required that if you look on your exhibit here this area in yellow there are
8 additional lots total, seven of them are on this part of the street, one of them is on the
west half of Arrowhead Way, or seven lots on the east half of Arrowhead way is the
common area lot for the recreational facility and one additional lot. Because this first
phase was platted with the right of way going all the way through Mr. Priester is requiring
that this be phase 2 and that then this portion here be phase 3. So the tot lot will in fact fall
in phase 3 of the development per the requirements of the Ada County Engineer. We have
submitted phase 2, it has final plat approval from the City Council and it is in the platting
process it will probably be on Gary's desk the first of next week. We have submitted phase
3 for final plat approval it has not yet been heard by the City Council, I don't know when
that is scheduled but I think it is probably next week. Two weeks, that is in process too
and the constructions drawings for that will be to Gary Smith the week of September 9 for
his review and approval. So we are proceeding forth on this in an orderly manner. I would
like a clarification really right here now that we are going to come in with phase 2 and
although it says in this development agreement that the tot lot and basketball court will be
in phase 2 because of Mr. Priester's requirements it will actually be phase 2 here and the
tot lot will be in phase 3. So I would like the Council to recognize and so modify that
requirement. I have outlined it as well as I can, pretty colors and the whole works. So,
what we are asking for is the Council release the non-development agreement tonight
without further condition. I would also ask that since we have had building permits in
advance for some five or so weeks now trying to get a resolution of this matter that they
be accepted beginning tomorrow morning and and processed as though they were
submitted and received when we were told originally that we could submit plans for
building permits which was the July 23 City Council meeting.
Morrow: I guess I have a question given the additional requirement of the seven lots to be
part of phase 2 as per the County Engineer, when would you visualize the tot lot and
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basketball court on the east side (inaudible)
Turnbull: We plan on building that phase of the subdivision over the winter and having it
finaled out next spring, as soon as we can pave next spring. If not we would bond for it
at that time. We are not asking the City to leave themselves wide open we have offered
protection from their concerns but requiring that phase 2 of the subdivision be platted
before we can build in phase 2 is just incomprehensible to me.
Corrie: Any further discussion of the Council?
Crookston: Mr. Mayor and Council I guess one of the other things about the specifics that
I was thinking of that we have no indication as to whether or not the basketball court is
going to be asphalt or concrete or whether it is going to be paved in any fashion. There
was an indication in the agreement that was entered into between Brighton Corporation
and the people that met in Fothergill that the, I think it was just the tot lot but it might have
been the basket ball court also was going to be able to be used by people in the Fothergill
Subdivision. In a discussion that I had with Ms. Stiles she indicated that there was a sign
up that said that it was not that it would only be used for people in Bedford Place, is that
correct Shari?
Stiles: There is no sign out there, as it is not developed yet. The only thing that we have
that indicates that it is a private park to be owned and maintained by the homeowners
association. I am not sure but I believe there was something said at the public hearings
as well but I am not sure.
Turnbull: It is a private park owned and maintained by the owners association, but we did
enter into an agreement with Fothergill neighbors. In fact John Ewings discussed with us
apart from the City that if the Fothergill neighbors were going to use that that they too
ought to be involved in the maintaining of it. Which I discussed with Shari and she thought
that it was only fair and we have never put a restriction on the use of the Fothergill
Subdivision. There has never been a sign put up obviously there is nothing to put a sign
on yet. In our application the question was asked if there were any common area we
indicated that there was that it was private that it was to be maintained by the owners
association, versus public. It is not city owned it is not maintained by the City so those
were the appropriate responses to the questions on the application. What was your other
question? Anticipating what other detail you might ask for I attached to the back of this a
cross section of how a basketball court is to be constructed. The paving section and the
gravel section underneath. That was the only thing that I thought maybe unless you
wanted location of the sprinkler heads the only other piece of information that I could think
to include in this.
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(Inaudible)
Crookston: I haven't reviewed my memorandum but I think those were the majority points
that I had.
Turnbull: I would be happy to go through them item by item if you would like.
Crookston: It is totally up to the City Council as to release the non-development agreement
or not. At this juncture, before it was left up to me to do that.
Bentley: Mr Mayor, since we left it up to you before have your questions been answered
to the satisfaction of where you would release it?
Crookston: As I said I didn't know this was going to come up tonight so I haven't looked
at it. I cannot say now that all of my concerns have been answered. That designation on
the basketball court to my knowledge that is the first time that has ever been stated.
Morrow: Well I guess part of the question there is too though is we are talking about a
basketball court and a tot lot that are in phase 3, we are talking about anon-development
agreement for phase 1.
Crookston: Right, but the specifics were to be done at the preliminary plat of phase 1 or
those 7 or eight lots.
Turnbull: And my contention again excuse me Mr. Mayor is that if it wasn't specific enough
for you then the plat should have been tabled and not approved until I came back with
more specifics. But we felt like we had and had submitted the specifics and the plat was
approved as submitted with the specifics that we submitted (End of Tape)
Corrie: (Inaudible) non-development agreement on phase 1, and if so you would if not you
won't.
Morrow: Well very candidly I guess from my perspective these specifics other than the
cross section for the paving section of the basketball court were all part of the original
presentation. We are dealing with a development or non-development agreement for the
first phase and we still have phases 2 and 3 for that. If there is an adjustment in terms of
what it is we have been presented can be dealt with. So I guess what I would like to see
us do is press forward with what it is we approved some time ago.
Tolsma: I agree with Walt.
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Rountree: Which would be done for us to take action to release the none development
agreement for phase .one.
Morrow: Well we have taken that action once we had Wayne, subject to his approval. So
I guess clearly in his mind there was a question as to what constituted a lot and so on and
so forth and that should have been brought back before the Council for further clarification
in my mind because we had already discussed those things. and been through that
presentation. So I guess from where we we stand right here unless there is a technical
glitch that needs to be ironed out in the development agreement. My feeling would be is
that we press forward with the signing of the non-development agreement and technical
glitches be taken care of and that the building permit process start immediately.
Crookston: It is the release of the non-development agreement.
Morrow. The release of the non-development agreement. So I would move that we release
the non-development agreement subject to editorial and technical clarifications and that
we instruct the building department to begin processing the building permit and
applications tomorrow.
Bentley: Second
Corrie: You have heard the motion by Mr. Morrow and second by Mr. Bentley, any further
discussion? Are you clarified with the technical end of it?
Turnbull: Well other than I believe that Walt is saying the non-development agreement will
be, it is already signed by the Mayor and that it will be recorded tomorrow and that permits
will be available starting tomorrow. I believe what he is saying is that maybe we ought to
go back on the development agreement where it talks about phase 2 when it is actually
now phase 3 and amend that?
Morrow: No I am suggesting that as a Council we have that option on the development
agreement for phase 2 and 3 and then we are dealing here strictly with phase 1. My
motion is that if there is some technical things within the development agreement or
editorial language or something that is not quite correct then that needs to be clarified and
then recorded. But the recording and the issuance of buildings permits or the processing
of building permits are really two independent actions by virtue of the motion.
Turnbull: And I agree with that, thank you.
Corrie: Any further discussion? All those in favor? Opposed?
Meridian City Council
September 3, 1996
Page 56
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
Morrow: The last thing that I had Mr. Mayor was status of the golf course, we are
continuing under construction we are actually seeding by this week we will have all nine
of the greens ready for seeding. Seven of them Qn Wednesday last were done and
covered with visqueen in anticipation of seeding it is my understanding that we are
seeding and going wet on about three to possibly four holes this week. The remainder will
go wet at the end of the month. Also, there are copies of draw requests that I had City
Engineer Smith's department prepare and copy to each one of you so that you can see
where the draws are in fact going for the progress of the work that has been completed.
So I would entertain any questions that you would have concerning that. That is my last
item.
Corrie: Council any questions? Mr. Bentley?
Bentley: Nothing
Corrie: Mr. Rountree?
Rountree: Just a quick update from our last meeting, I told you I would give you some
information about my investigation on lease purchase, lease option. I talked to an
individual with GSA, Sue Foster, GSA's position on lease purchase or leasing or
government buildings is if Congress doesn't provide funds for capital investment in
property and an agency needs space GSA acts as a landlord they go out and build
buildings and lease to the federal agencies who pay for the leases under their operating
budgets. That is pretty straight forward, one things GSA is getting into is lease purchase
more and more but they don't have any particular cri#eria. They don't have any magic
formula it is just if you need space and you don't have the money then you can lease it
through GSA. I talked to an individual at the State, Jim Jefferies, h~ indicated in the City's
situation that providing space or a capital improvement if the City has a bonding authority
that would be his first recommendation. Or if they had a building authority and they are
budgeted to do it that would be their second option. The State has only done one lease
purchase and that is with an employment office I believe in Twin Falls where the State
actually owned the. ground, they entered into an agreement with a builder to build the
building at the end of 20 years all of the improvements on the land go to the land owner
which is the State of Idaho. They do a number of leases, they do leases primarily for the
reasons we talked about leases. When you need space and can't afford to build a building
State agencies are leasing property. Jim is the person that does all of the lease work for
the State of Idaho. The down side on leasing is that it is not cheap, but the upside is you
can get space that way. He indicated that he would be available to come and talk to the
City at one of our planning meetings and I will make arrangements if you want me to
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September 3, 1996
Page 57
pursue that.
Morrow: I think my preference would be that you make arrangements for our meeting in
September, the 24th.
Rountree: I have already pre-arranged with him that time and I will confirm that with him
and get him here at 6:30. That is all I have.
Corrie: Mr. Tolsma?
Tolsma: Mr. Smith, he inquired of me to find somebody to mow the Tully Park property out
there so they could set stakes. I have been trying to get a hold of him and I finally got a
hold of him today and he gave me a price of $40 an acre to mow that which I told him we
had between 15 and 18 acres and he said he would mow it for $40 an acre which was
$600 and I told him that was exorbitant and the last person who mowed it was $140 and
reference that. He said he couldn't get to it for 2 to 3 weeks anyway because he was going
on vacation. So I got a hold of another farmer today who has another type of a mower and
I should know from him tomorrow if he can pursue that park property to mow that. That
is all I have. I told Gary I would get a hold of him as soon as I found out from him.
Corrie: APA is having a meeting September 18 at 11:30, it is a luncheon at the Airport it
is being put on by the rail equipment company there discussing the APA is planning what
to do, possibility of transportation purposes. Anyone from the Council that would like to go
to that they will, it is an invitation from the EPA they will pay for the dinner or the lunch,
that is the 18th. If anybody is interested in that get with me if you would like to hear what
that presentation is in the future. Anything else? We need to go into Executive session
for a couple of informational things for you in reference to a personnel matter.
Morrow: So moved
Rountree: Second
Corrie: Motion made and seconded we go into Executive Session for personnel matters,
all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
EXECUTIVE SESSION
Corrie: We will call the meeting back to order, it is 11:30 out of Executive Session. No
major decision was made at that point, no decision was made at that point period. Any
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September 3, 1996
Page 58
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further business to come before the Council? Entertain a motion to adjourn.
Rountree: So moved
Tolsma: Second
Corrie: Motion made and seconded we adjourn, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 11:30 P.M.
(TAPE ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS)
APPROVED:
ERT D. CORRIE, MAYOR
ATTEST:
WILLIAM G. BERG, JR., CITY CLERK
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MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
AGENDA
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 3, 1996 - 7:30 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING HELD AUGUST 20, 1996: uPp~v'e-
MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING HELD AUGUST 26, 1996: approvG-
1. TABLED AUGUST 6, X996: FINAL PLAT: FIELDSTONE MEADOWS NO. 5
SUBDIVISION 3Y GARY VOIGT: Gc~Jpf-o Ve. ~u,b,~ec.t ~ ~'~n ~i~i~,,s~
2. TABLED AUGUST 20, 1996: FINAL PLAT: CHAMBERLAIN ESTATES NO. 2
SUBDIVISION BY KEVIN HOWELL: y~~e ~.¢i2 f2~ot. ~? ~ /~
3. TABLED AUGUST 20, 1996: AMENDED ORDINANCE #3-101 -GENERAL
LICENSE CONDITIONS: ~aaEe ~~-~-~° ~epf- /?!~ /~=~
4. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR VARIANCE
REQUEST FOR SPORTSMAN POINTE SUBDI ISIC~N NO. 5 BY
GEM PARK II DEVELOPMENT: ~ ~orvvc ~~~ ~ C'/c
~v~p/-o ~.e Gz'e c ~~~ ~.- o~~e ~a-L. es~.c~~ ~ i~-~e ~i l~~ 7
5. ORDINANCE #739 - BALLANTYNE-TROUTNER ANNEXATION: G2~pro~-~-
6. PRELIP~IINARY PLAT FOR BALLANTYNE-TROUTNER BUSINESS PARK BY
JIM BALLANTYNE: TABLED AUGUST 6, 1996: c~~rvt~~
7. REQUEST FOR FINAL PLAT EXTENSION OF CENTRAL VALLEY
CORPORATE PARK N0.6 (FORMERLY NO. 5) BY RON NAHAS:
a~vprvv~ ~ az,.¢,l.~e~d'io~ ~o-f•ti.2xp~~-~i~.c~a.~-
8. REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT EXTENSION OF L,OS ALAMITOS NO. 3
SUBDIVISION BY MARTY GOLDSMITH: ~.pp,~-o w~ o~-e v~cc~-
9. REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT EXTENSION OF SALMON RAPIDS NO.
3 SUBDIVISION BY MARTY GOLDSMITH: a~pro v~- d-he r~ecw
~~~ ~~ Off, /7~ /9~t'7
10. REQUEST FOR FINAL PLAT EXTENSION OF SALMON RAPIDS NO.2
SUBDIVISION BY MARTY GOLDSMITH:
(t,~h ~QG~St
11. REQUEST FOR~EER AND WINE LICENSE FOR ALBERTSONS:
ar~op~-~ ~.~ c~ j.~a-n ~~c~~p~ d~" she ~`~o~:f~ /~~c~-
12. REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING AND HOOK UP TO CITY
SEWER BY ROBERT HALE:
G~e~2 ~J d n n ~ ~C _ ~ Zv~ivr~ i^2 ~l.~,Q.S~ F
a/o/~rnv~ h-~a~~-up ~_.t'.e~v~ w/~~ ~vu~ hovl~'~f
13. NON-DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR RAVEN HILL SUBDIVISION:
14. REQUEST FOR A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION TRAILER IN MORNING
GLORY SUBDIVISION BY PRESCOTT HOMES:
~~ u~l feat- /~!~ ~~
15. WATER/SEWER/TRASH DELINQUENCIES:
~pprv/~
16. APPROVE BILLS:
~L~/~Irvv.~
17. DEPARTMENT REPORTS:
A. GARY SMITH, CITY ENGINEER:
1. UPRR SEWER LINE CROSSING AGREEMENT: ~ppro~'~
B. WAYNE CROOKSTON, CITY ATTORNEY:
1. ALBERTSONS -WATER, SEWER AND ACCESS EASEMENTS
-LATE COMERS AGREEMENT
18. EXECUTIVE SESSION:
• CITY OF MERIDIA ~CEIVED
PUBLIC MEETING SIGN-SHEET SEP _ 3 ~
OF ~[FR1DlAi~
NAME PHONE NUMBER
~~I~ L~ -~J'~" 37Sr / 9~Z
ORDINANCE NO. 739
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN ANNEXING AND ZONING CERTAIN
REAL PROPERTY WHICH IS DESCRIBED AS A PARCEL OF LAND LYING WITHIN
THE NE 1/4 OF SECTION 13, TOWNSHIP 3 NORTH, RANGE 1 WEST, BOISE
MERIDIAN, ADA COUNTY, IDAHO; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
WHEREAS, the City Council and the Mayor of the City of
Meridian, Idaho, have concluded that it is in the best interest of
said City to annex to the said City real property which. is
described in Section 1 below:
NOW, THEREFORE, HE IT ORDAINED by the Mayor and City
Council of the City of Meridian, Ada County, Idaho:
Section 1. That the real property described as:
A parcel of land lying within the NE 1/4 of Section 13,
Township 3 North, Range 1 West, Boise Meridian, Ada
County, Idaho, more .particularly described as follows:
PARCEL ONE: 9S076G88
Commencing at an aluminum cap monument_marking~ the NE
corner of said Section 13; h 4 = 4-`.:. ~~ `= ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~
thence West along the North line c~~sai~j Section and the
centerline of Franklin Road, a distance of 1,328.20 feet
to a brass cap monument marking the East 1 / 16th corner of
said Section i3; '96 SEP,~.1~2~ P~Ij `1 tft3.~~~a ~/~
thence continuing West along aidJ~'e~~.~on line, a`~~
distance of 362.70 feet; FE~--~-a-_,.._..~ t - __
thence S 00°08'25" West, a distance of 613.70 feet to the
REAL POINT OF BEGINNING;
thence N T2°09'35" West, a distance of 316.95 feet to the
East boundary of Franklin Square Subdivision as recorded.
in Book 44 of Plats at pages 5587 and 5588;
thence S 00°08'58" West, along said east boundary, a
distance of 1363.46 feet;
thence S 85°41'00" East, a distance of 147.41 feet to an
iron pin;
thence N 79°55'00" East, a distance of 211.34 feet;
ANNERATION ORDINANCE
B~nT.T.nrrrypE-TROUTNER L-O AND C-G Page 1
thence N 00°08'58" East, a distance of 1005.86 feet;
thence N 29°38'58" East, a distance of 170.41 feet;
thence N 57°41'11" West, a distance of 161.79 feet to the
REAL POINT OF BEGINNING.
containing 10.81 acres of land, more or less.
AND
PARCEL TWO:
Commencing at an aluminum cap monument marking the NE
corner of said Section 13;
thence West along the North line of said Section and the
centerline of Franklin Road, a distance of 1,328.20 feet
to a brass cap monument marking the East 1/16th corner of
said Section 13;
thence continuing West along said section line, a
distance of 362.70 feet to the REAL POINT OF BEGINNING.
thence S 00°08'25" West, a distance of 613.70 feet;
thence S 57°41'11" East, a distance of 161.79 feet;
thence S 29°38'58" West, a distance of 170.41 feet;
thence S 00°08'58" West, a distance of 1005.86 feet;
thence N 79°55'00" East, a distance of 312.03 feet;
thence N 00°13'31" East, a distance of 142.00 feet;
thence N 89°52'13" East, a distance of 790.35 feet to an
iron pin;
thence N 00°23'12" East, a distance of 329.06 feet to an
iron pin;
thence N 89°56'06" West, a distance of 128.95 feet to an
iron pin;
thence N 00°18'07" East, a distance of 663.29 feet;
thence N 89°58'05" West, a distance of 663.21 feet;
thence N 00°13'31" East, a distance of 349.76 feet;
thence West, a distance of 123.99 feet;
thence N 00°13'48" East, a distance of 313.10 feet;
ANNEBATION ORDINANCE
BALLANTYNE-TROUTNER L-O AND C-G Page 2
thence West, a distance of 2,38.73 feet to the REAL POINT
OF BEGINNING.
containing 28.70 acres of land, more or less.
AND ALSO
PARCEL THREE:
A parcel located in the SE 1/4 of the NE 1/4 of Section
13, Township 3 North, Range 1 West,-Boise Meridian, Ada
County, Idaho, more particularly described as follows:
BEGINNING at the northeasterly corner of said SE 1/4 of
the NE 1/4;
thence S 0°22'31" W along the easterly boundary of said
SE 1/4 of the NE 1/4 a distance of 327.25 feet to a
point;
thence leaving said easterly boundary S 89°52'13" W a
distance of 533.53 feet to a point;
thence N 0°23'12" E a distance of 329.06- feet to a point;
thence S 89°56'06" E a distance of 533.45 feet to the
POINT OF BEGINNING.
This parcel contains 4.02 acres and is subject to any
easements existing or in use.
is hereby annexed to the City of Meridian; that PARCEL ONE is zoned
(L-0) Limited Office; that PARCEL TWO is zoned (C-G) General Retail
and Service Commercial; and PARCEL THREE is zoned (C-G) General
Retail and Service Commercial; that the annexation and zoning is.
subject to the conditions referenced in the Findings of Fact and
Conclusions of Law as adopted by the Meridian Council on the
request for annexation and zoning.
Section 2. That the property shall be subject to de-
annexation if the owner shall not meet the following requirements:
a. That the Applicant for this annexation shall be required
to connect to Meridian water and sewer at its expense and
resolve how the water and sewer mains will serve the.
land.
ANNE7CATION ORDINANCE
BPLT_nN'~'YNE-TROUTNER L-O AND C-G Page 3
b. That the development of the property shall be subject to
and controlled by the Subdivision and Development
Ordinance and the Meridian Comprehensive Plan adopted
April 4, 1984, or as amended.
c. That, as a condition of annexation, the Applicant shall
be required to enter into a development agreement as
authorized by 11-2-416 L and 11-2-417 D; that the
development agreement shall address inclusion into the.
subdivision of the requirements of 11-9-605 C, G 1., H
2., K, L, and M ofthe Revised and Compiled Ordinances of
the City of Meridian and other matters., and specifically
that planting strips shall be 35 feet wide along
Frankilin and Meridian Roads and not part of street
right-of-way or utility easements.
d. That surface water shall be used for pressurized
irrigation if possible.
e. That these conditions shall run with the land and bind
the applicant, the titled owners, and their assigns.
f. Meet the requirements and conditions of the Findings of
Fact and Conclusions of Law and meet the Ordinances of
the City of Meridian, which include that the property
must be developed as a commercial or general planned
development or under the conditional use permit process.
g. That the Applicant is required to hook up to the sewer
and water and participate in the costs of extending the
sewer and water services through the payment of late-
comer's fees.
h. That Applicant shall meet the development time.
requirements of the City and meet all of the Ordinances
of the City of Meridian.
i. That the property may be de-annexed if the terms and.
conditions of the Development Agreement or this Ordinance
are not satisfied.
Section 3 . That the City Clerk shall cause one (1) .copy of
the legal description, and map, which shall plainly and clearly
designate the boundaries of said property, to be filed with the Ada
County Recorder, Ada County Assessor, and the State Tax Commission.
within ten (10) days following the effective date of this
Ordinance.
ANNEBATION ORDINANCE
BALT.nNTYNE-TROUTNER L-O AND C-t3 Page 4
Section 4. EFFECTIVE DATE:
There being an emergency,
which emergency is hereby declared to exist, this Ordinance shall
be in full ~ force and effect from and after its passage and approval
as required by law.
PASSED by the City Council and approved by the Mayor of the
City of Meridian, Ada County, Idaho, this 3 ~0 day of September,
1996.
APPROVED:
OR -- ROBERT D. CORRIE
ATTEST:
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WILLIAM G. BERG, JR. C Y CLERS ~~~L _
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STATE OF IDAHO,) '%,'~o T tg'~'~ ~~.`°~
County of Ada, ~ s s . '~,,~~~q', ,,,~R"~~.`
I, WILLIAM G. BERG, JR., City Clerk of the City of Meridian,
Ada County, Idaho, do hereby certify that the above and foregoing
is a true, full and correct copy of an Ordinance entitled "AN
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN ANNEXING AND ZONING CERTAIN REAL
PROPERTY WHICH IS DESCRIBED AS A PARCEL OF LAND LYING WITHIN THE NE
1/4 OF SECTION 13, TOWNSHIP; 3 NORTH, RANGE 1 WEST, BOISE MERIDIAN,
ADA COUNTY, IDAHO; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE."; passed as
Ordinance No. 739 , b the City Council and Mayor of the City
of Meridian, on the ~~ day of September, 1996, as the same
appears in my office. ```,~~`,,nnnu~iu~~,,r~~'~
DATED this ~~~ day of Septe er, 1996. ww~`~~~'``y ~~~'<.~
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City Clerk, City f e"rid'r~n ~,
Ada County, .Idaho ", ~~
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STATE OF IDAHO,)
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County of Ada, )
On this ro~ day of September, 1996,_ before me, the
undersigned, a Notary Public in and for said State, personally
appeared WILLIAM G. BERG, JR. known to me to be the person whose
name is subscribed to the within and foregoing, instrument, and
acknowledged that he executed the same.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my
official seal the day and year in this certificate first above
written.
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MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL MEETING: September 3.1996
APPLICANT: ITEM NUMBER; 4l® ~ CQ
REQUEST' DEPARTMENT REPORTS
AGENCY
CITY CLERK:
CITY ENGINEER:
CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR:
CITY ATTORNEY:
CITY POLICE DEPT:
CITY FIRE DEPT:
CITY BUILDING DEPT:
MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT:
MERIDIAN POST OFFICE:
ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT:
ADA COUNTY STREET NAME COMMITTEE:
CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION:
SETTLERS IRRIGATION:
IDAHO POWER:
US WEST:
INTERMOUNTAIN GAS:
BUREAU OF RECLAMATION:
COMMENTS
OTHER:
X11 Materials presented at public meetings shall become property of the City of Meridian.
R. D. UHRICH
ASSISTANT VICE PRESIDENT
ROOM 1100, 1416 DODGE STREET
OMAHA, NEBRASKA 68179-1100
(402)271-3753
FAX (402) 271-5493 '
U`QION PACIFIC RAILROAD COMP~-NY
CONTRACTS & REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT
August 15, 1996
Folder: 662-83
Robert Corrie
CITY OF MERIDIAN
33 East Idaho Avenue
Meridian, ID 83642
Dear Mayor Come:
J. A. ANTHONY
DIRECTOR-CONTRACTS 8
JOINT FACILITIES
D. D. BROWN
DIRECTOR-REAL ESTATE
J. L. HAWKINS
DIRECTOR-OPERATIONS SUPPORT
D. H. LIGHTWINE
DIRECTOR-REAL ESTATE
W. R. ULRICH
DIRECTOR-FACILITY MANAGEMENT
RE: 10" Domestic Sewer Pipeline Crossing West of Eagle Road at Beatty
(Meridian), Idaho
Enclosed are duplicate originals of an agreement covering your use of the, Railroad's right-of--way.
To properly document this use, it is necessary that you sign or arrange for signature of the enclosed documents,
and return the following to me in the enclosed envelope:
1. BOTH duplicate originals of the crossing agreement.
2. A Certificate of Insurance, if required.
3. Resolution of Authority for individual executing the agreements, if required.
4. Check made payable to the Union Pacific Railroad Company in the amount of $700.00. If you require
formal billing, you may consider this letter as a formal bill. In compliance with the Internal Revenue
Services' policy regarding Form 1099, I certify that 13-6400825 is the Railroad Company's correct
Federal Taxpayer Identification Number and that Union Pacific Railroad Company is doing business
as a corporation.
If any work to install the utility is to be performed by a con(actor, please ensure that the enclosed letter and
duplicate originals of a Contractors Right of Entry Agreement ace forwarded to your Contractor for execution and return - -
to me. Your contractor will not be permitted on the Railroad Company's Right-of--Way without this agreement. _-
We are continually trying to do a better job for you, our customer. To do this, we need to know if what we do is
done right. If there are areas where you feel our performance could improve or needs to change, we need to know that
also. Therefore, enclosed is a survey form that we would appreciate you completing and returning to us at your earliest
convenience. We need to hear from you if we are to meet your nceds.
ff the crossing agreements are not executed and returned within six. months from the date of this letter, the offer
of the agreement is withdrawn and becomes null and void. If you have a~ questions concerning this agreement, please
feel free to call me at (402)271-5153.
s 'nYours truly, ~-
/ JACK L. NIISON
ONTRACTS REPRESENTATIVE
DOCEX.LTR
S EP - 3 1996
CITY OF iNER1DIAN
DELINQUENCY LIST
TURN OFF LIST SCHEDULE FOR 08/07/96
ACCOUNT# NAME & ADDRESS AMT. PAST DUE
1-90 LEONARD MCFADDEN 47.40
710 W 2ND ST
1-270 GEORGE BARKLEY 52.60
436 W BROADWAY AV
1-770 THOMAS DEUBER 88.40
511 W BROADWAY AV
1-800 SID BREWER 46.90
423 W BROADWAY AV
1-1414 NORMAN L. GODBOUT 332.20
512 W IDAHO AV
1-1810 GLADYS CLYMENS 46.40
729 W IDAHO AV
1-4430 MOEIAMMAD ALIDJANI 208.40
850 W FRANICI.IN RD
2-450 BRENT MCCLURE 91.40
638 W CRITERION ST
2-470 J & G CONSTRUCTION 68.40
643 W APPLEGATE ST
2-860 DEAN ANDERSON 336.22
1200 W PINE AV (CASH ONLY ACCT CLOSED)
2-1170 KENT CAMPOSAN 147.80
1304 W 1ST ST
2-1270 MOLLIE P FLERCHINGER 79.20
1546 W 1ST ST
2-1690 RALPH E NASH 114.60
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1616W2NDST
2-1870 LARRY PIPER 59.00
306 W MAPLE AV
2-2150 LOUIE J NEAGLE 123.70
216 CHERRY AV
2-2460 LISA L COX 46.40
1230 W 4TH ST
2-2500 ELLEN BAILEY 67.40
338 CHERRY AV
2-2550 PAUL PACK 138.50
1313 W 4TH ST
2-2608 CENTENNIAL CONSTRUCTION 72.40
1482 N MIDTOWN ST
2-3660 LEONARD MCFADDEN 64.00
115 W WASHINGTON AV
2-3782 JOHN LIGGETT 84.00
1421 MERIDIAN ST
2-3952 GARY GRIFFIN 46.40
1023 MERIDIAN ST
2-5080 DOLAN KEENEY 93.60
1439 NORTHGATE AV
2-5610 KRIS HOPKINS/GAY LEE ARCHULETA 77.00
1504 W V~'ASHINGTON ST
2-5740 MONA NIMO 106.60
1327 W CARLTON ST
2-6030 TOM KRASOWSKI 111.20
1017 W 12TH AV
3-292 ROD SHURTZ 156.50
2195 W SNYDER DR
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3-386 LINDA WRIGHT 54.40
1954 W SLATON DR
3-388 _ LESLIE BRUNTON 117.60
1968 W SLATON DR
4-1634 RUSSEL MOORE 54.42
2922 W WILLARD ST
4-1774 GARY GEYER 163.20
2588 W WILLARD ST
4-2116 JOHN PAUL 135.80
2217 W SANTA CLARA DR
4-2184 JOHN SNELDERS 97.40
1256 N YAKIMA WY
4-2236 BRIAN CROSSLAND 112.40
1718 W SUNNY SLOPE DR
4-2280 STEVEN HAMMOND 156.80
1842 W SONOMA DR
19-28 ROBERT GILBERT 98.60
3864 HARBOR POINT DR
19-46 ROBERT MOWREY 61.40
3727 HARBOR POINT DR
20-1754 DARRELL OSTYN CONSTRUCTION '4.40
3536 W SANDWICH DR
21-502 ROBERT SANPHILL 54.00
2818 N QUARRYSTONE WY
21-582 MARJORIE CHANCE 174.20
2606 W PEBBLESTONE CT
21-1054 BERNARD & KARLEEN BRAUNSTEIN 136.80
2961 N FIELDSTONE WY
21-1174 DAVID TWADDLE
2492 W CHATEAU DR
21-1766. RICK COFFMAN
1960 MAR)"ANNA PL
21-193 8 DAVID & SHAWNA LONGO
2615 REBECCA WY
21-2006 MARK & TAMARA ROSE
1732 N MORELLO AV
21-2920 KEVIN & BECKY CROFTS
2931 W ELK STREAM ST
21-2994 JAMES DUNLAP CK& CC
3075 W MIRAGE CT
21-3178 THOMAS CLARK
3111 N GWENOLINE
22-846 LESLEY A MCNORTON
2117 W CHATEAU DR
22-1032 REN THOMPSON
2039 N NYBORG WY
22-1144 JEFFREY KORELL
2407 W RAINWATER CT
22-1150 GARY HARRISON
2365 W RAINWATER CT
22-1350 GAYLEN & Sb~ANNON COWGER
1956 W MCGLINCHEY ST
22-1354 RODNEY WII,LIAMS
1908 MONACO WY
22-1356 MARVIN L KERBS
1983 HENDRICKS CT
22-1384 PETER MICHNO
1947 W SANDALWOOD DR
106.40
126.20
109.40
75.80
113.40
94.65
113.00
104.20
105.00
77.40
153.80
114.60
178.40
69.00
69.50
22-1482 LYLE D ANDERSON 131.00
1723 SANDALWOOD DR
22-1514_ DALE E ZIlVINEY 162.80
1894 SANDALWOOD DR
22-1518 JAMES WOOSLEY 219.20
1942 SANDALWOOD DR
31-142 MARY VANDEVENTER 77.12
1330 W YOST CT
31-184 TRACEY & THOMAS BENNETT 97.00
1968 NW 12TH ST
31-806 KEITH TAUFER 100.40
2131 NW 12TH ST
31-864 DIANE GII,BERT 87.20
1316 W CHATEAU AV
31-1686 MARK H WOLFE 188.40
2778 NW 12TH ST
31-2226 AUDREY JOHNSTON/ANNA HORNE 151.60
1321 CLAIRE ST
31-2236 LINDA PARSONS 110.60
2635 NW 13TH ST
31-2254 RAYMOND TURNER 91.15
1402 DARRAH DR
31-3418 FORREST F SCHUSTER 108.50
2218 NW 14TH ST
31-3236 VICKIE HRUSKA 128.00
2267 NW 11TH ST
31-3250 SHIRLEY WARE 86.80
1131 DELMAR DR
31-3364 ALLEN BURGESS 95.00
2282 NW 10TH AV
31-3420 JULIA COUCH 98.40
1012 FAIRWOOD CT
31-3528 JACK TEATER 123.40
1938 NW 11TH AV
32-444 MICHAEL & CYNTHIA WARNER 96.70
2044 NW 8TH ST
32-520 KELLY BESS 138.20
1907 LAWNDALE DR
32-566 BARBARA J HICKS 218.00
1919 CRESTMONT DR
32-650 GAVIN TAYLOR 145.20
501 LONGFORD DR
32-1174 TRINA LEE FISCHER 114.20
207 W SPICEWOOD DR
33-1832 TORY & SHAWNY CULLEY 77.60
165 E WOODBURY DR
33-1850 GARY & BOBETTE MARSHALL 75.40
2472 N LARCHMONT PL
33-2318 JOHN & SHARON SCOTT 64.60
2542 N ARROW WOOD DR
33-3572 TRACY & KATHY ANDERSON 71.20
410 E EDGAR CT
33-4154 RAYMOND BOBKO 144.10
2711 N ARROW WOOD WY
34-496 TIMOTHY LOVE 102.00
2089 N SAPPHIRE PL
34-800 KENNETH ZEAR 148.40
998 E CHATEAU DR
34-1172 CARL & DOROTHY QUARENBERG 135.00
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2530 N BLACK BEAR WY
34-1302 RANDY CLIFF 111.40
2480 N SNOW GOOSE WY
34-1902 KEITH D HUNSAKER 81.60
2061 N LARK PL
34-1948 FORREST MOORS 89.40
821 E WII,LOWBROOK DR
34-3286 ROBERT HALE 142.60
1527 E STORMY DR
42-282 JERRY & DONNA SULLIVAN 219.23
2567 E APRICOT CT
42-346 AARON & KATHY JONES 115.60
2392 E APRICOT DR
42-348 RANDAL PIPAL 132.40
2350 APRICOT DR
42-378 JOSH & SHARI BRECKS 125.00
2463 E APRICOT DR
42-1146 WADE MILLER 169.00
200 E OAKCREST DR
42-2452 ARENDA AXTELL 114.70
1795 E LOCHMEDAOW ST
42-2582 LORRI CHAPMAN 131.60
X542 N MEADOWGLEN PL
46-108 WENDELL & KATHLEEN LAWRENCE 92.00
889 N FILLMORE WY
46-468 KEVIN & TINA BORCHARDT 66.00
1071 N FILLMORE WY
49-1126 MONTEREY HOME 652.40
2070 E COMMERCIAL CT
50-12 PAUL SMITH 151.60
29 E STATE
50-226 JAMES HOWELL 152.00
234 & 236 E STATE ST
50-262 SCOTT MURRI 78.00
12 E STATE ST
50-284 MARK DALE 46.40
31 E CARLTON AV
50-354 DENNIS CARSTENSEN 88.75
416 E CARLTON AV
50-2106 RICHARD ROBINSON 114.60
1278 N STONEHENGE WY
50-2378 DARLENE & RICHARD GUTHMILLER 75.60
1290 E DRUCKER ST
50-2424 DEBI MARTS 68.80
1449 E DRUCKER ST
50-2581 DANBURY HOMEOWNER ASSO 183.00
SPRINKLER -DANBRY FR E
50-3726 NICKIE MEATTE 201.00
989 N RALSTIN PL
50-4506 BETTY B JACOBSON 81.40
436 E PINE AV
50-4562 STEVEN & CAROL JOHNSOIN 95.20
238 E PINE ST
50-4598 LONNIE MORRIS 46.40
124 E PINE AV
51-3146 S & S MII.LER 65.60
218 E FRANKLIN RD
51-3300 DAVID ROBERTS 99.60
133 E KING ST
51-3320 TIMOTHY P ZIlVIMER 111.20
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234E 2ND ST
51-3370 - CINDI ATWOOD 71.60
223E 3RD ST
51-3840 KIMBERLY WOLFS 78.40
424E 3RD ST
51-4200 PHILIP G LORCHER 213.60
432E 2ND ST
69-136 HOME ART BUILDERS 58.40
1453 E BLUE TICK ST
69-566 LAWRENCE & DEBRA CHURCH 140.20
1035 E SHEPHERD ST
69-2298 DIANE LANG 123.00
1895 S MARSHWOOD PL
72-164 LOUIE & JENNELL BONFRISCO 83.40
1958 S COVEY PL
74-350 GARY E FRANK 79.80
63 8 HANOVER CT
74-422 DENA CROASDALE 62.40
633 BARRE TT ST
74-692 JAMES M MCDILL 150.80
190 SW 7TH
74-1084 EDWARD & MADORA NEALE 112.40
102 W 1 ~T ST
74-1316 NORMAN FULLER 125.40
417 S MERIDIAN ST
74-2324 RALENE J GREGORY 82.60
1125 CRESTWOOD DR
74-2350 THOMAS HA77ARD 134.60
1031 CRESTWOOD DR
74-2416 MARK & REBECCA LAPP 97.40
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958 W KI1VIltA ST
74-2614 MICHAEL MACKRILL 127.20
989 W KIl11~iRA ST
74-2688 STEVEN & KRISTIE EVANS 96.80
188 S CRESTWOOD DR
74-2690 MONTEREY HOMES 137.40
152 S CRESTWOOD DR
74-2756 JEFFERY DALLING 206.40
1388 W CRESTWOOD DR
74-2764 BRYAN K ROPP 95.20
1476 W CRESTWOOD DR
74-2822 KENNETH BARR 134.80
1421 W CRESTMONT DR
74-2932 DENISE SPECK 78.40
13 74 W PINTAII. DR
74-3102 KAY HARRISON 53.40
1005 W EGRET DR
74-323 8 DEBRA RULE 84.00
1134 W GREENHEAD DR
74-3246 JOHN & LISA MEYER 141.10
461 S PELICAN WY
74-3342 HOME ART BUILDER 58.40
1463 W GANDER DR
TOTAL # TURNOFFS TOTAL AMOUNT $16 , 315.14
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TURN OFF LIST STARTING 10/95
DATE COUNCIL APPR # AMOUNT ACT. TURNOFF ACT $ AMOUNT
10/11/95 235 $26,917.96 64 $6,695.95
11 /15/95 181 $21 043.78 35 $4,271.74
12/13/95 267 $25,869.42 54 $12,519.57
1/10/96 291 $24,366.49 43 $3,521.50
2/17/96 246 $18,874.87 68 $5,347.35
3/13/96 258 $19,934.89 38 $3,154.20
4/10/96 262 $21,055.55 58 $4,701.91
5/15/96 196 $16,980.06 38 $2,713.32
6/12/96 263 $19,527.28 45 $3,291.76
7/10/96 217 $16,444.58 64 $5,610.89
!x'/96 137 $13,860.07 98 $9,750.27
9/4/96 142 $16,315.14 96 $10,800.74
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