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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1996 11-06` ~ MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL AGENDA WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 6, 1996 - 7:30 P.M. CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING HELD OCTOBER 15, 1996: (APPROVED) 1. TABLED OCTOBER 15, 1996: FINAL PLAT FOR BEDFORD PLACE SUBDIVISION NO.3 BY BRIGHTON CORPORATION: (TABLED UNTIL NOVEMBER 19, 1996) 2. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT CENTER BY SELECT DEVELOPMENT AND CONTRACTING INC.: (APPROVE FINDINGS; APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT) 3. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR A JOHN DEERE DEALERSHIP BY CONTRACTORS EQUIPMENT SUPPLY CO.: (TABLED UNTIL NOVEMBER 19, 1996) 4. REQUEST APPROVAL FOR PROPOSED MERIDIAN PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH: (TALBED UNTIL NOVEMBER 19, 1996) 5. REQUEST APPROVAL FOR PROPOSED REMODEL OF EXISTING LDS CHURCH AT CHERRY LANE AND TEN MILE ROAD: (NEED VARIANCE) 6. DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED ANDERSON LUMBER PROJECT AT THE OLD IFA BUILDING ON FAIRVIEW AVENUE: {WITHDRAWN) 7. LATE COMERS AGREEMENT FOR CANDLELIGHT SUBDIVISION BY MCBEE CORPORATION: (APPROVED) 8: BILL SIMONS, 675 S. CINDER ROAD: REQUEST HOOK UP TO CITY SEWER: (APPROVED) 9. WATER/SEWER/TRASH DELINQUENCIES: (APPROVED) 10. APPROVE BILLS: (APPROVED) 11. DEPARTMENT REPORTS: ~ ~ A. SHARI STILES, PLANNING & ZONING ADMINISTRATOR: 1. LA PLAYA MANOR: B. BRUCE FRECKLETON, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY ENGINEER: 1. LOS ALAMISTOS STREET NAME CHANGE: (APPROVED) C. MAYOR CORRIE: 2 1. HAROLD COX MEMORIAL: (APPROVED) • ~ MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL NOVEMBER 6 1996 The regular meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order by Mayor Robert D. Corrie at 7:30 P.M.: MEMBERS PRESENT: Walt Morrow, Glenn Bentley, Charlie Rountree, Ron Totsma: OTHERS PRESENT: Will Berg, Shari Stiles, Bruce Freckleton, thief Gordon, Tiger Cub Scouts Den #3, Steve Simmons, Garth Jenson, Bill Simons: MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING HELD OCTOBER 15, 1996: Corrie: Before we start I want to welcome the Tiger Scouts Den #3 this evening and their parents and those that are helping with the cubs. Welcome to City Hall and to the meeting. I hope you had a nice tour and I hope you see how the City government works here tonight, it is going to be kind of a short meeting but there are a few changes on the agenda but we will go through it as we let you know as we go through it. Council members you have the minutes of the meeting held October 15, 1996, are there any corrections or alterations to those minutes? Entertain a motion that we accept the minutes. Rountree: So moved Morrow: Second Corrie: Motion made and seconded that we accept the minutes of the meeting held October 15, 1996 as approved, all those in favor say aye? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #1: TABLED OCTOBER 15, 1996: FINAL PLAT FOR BEDFORD PLACE SUBDIVISION NO. 3 BY BRIGHTON CORPORATION: Corrie: Shari, do you want to kind of fill the Council in on what is happening here? Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council after 5:00 today we got a written response to our comments and I also received today a sketch but I would like to have time to review that and talk to Nampa Meridian and make sure that they have no problems with their proposal. Morrow: That being the case Mr. Mayor I would move that we table to our next meeting which would be the 19th of November. Bentley: Second Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Bentley that we table the final plat for Bedford Place Subdivision No. 3 until the meeting on November 19, any further Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 2 discussion? All those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #2: FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT CENTER BY SELECT DEVELOPMENT AND CONTRACTING INC.: Corrie: Council you have those findings. Bentley: Mr. Mayor, I would have a question for Becky Bowcutt, have you received copies of the findings? Bowcutt: Yes sir we have. Bentley: And you understand all of the changes that they are requiring to be made? Bowcutt: Yes we have. Bentley: Are they acceptable? Bowcutt: We will have to live with them, it is the will of the Council. Bentley: That is all I have. Morrow: Mr. Mayor I would move that we adopt and approve the findings of fact and conclusions of law as written. Rountree: Second Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Rountree that we approve the findings of fact and conclusions of law as written, any further discussion? Hearing none, roll call vote. ROLL CALL VOTE: Morrow -Yea, Bentley -Yea, Rountree -Yea, Tolsma -Yea MOTION CARRIED: All Yea Corrie: Motion on the decision? Morrow: Mr. Mayor, the City of Meridian hereby decides that the conditional use permit for Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 3 :] the property (inaudible) should be and is approved under the conditions set forth in these findings of fact and conclusions of law (inaudible) that if the applicant is not agreeable with these findings of fact and conclusions that those (inaudible) is not approved. Rountree: Second Corrie: Motion made and seconded of the conclusions as being read, any further discussion? All those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea Bentley: Mr. Mayor, I have a question maybe the Council knows the answer, do we have a time table on when they are going to do the expansion on the bridge on for pedestrian walkway? On Meridian Road? My conversations with Claire it is scheduled to be done. Morrow: The only thing I can tell Glenn in terms of the transportation planning and those kinds of issues is that there were 3 or 4 options with respect to a possible pedestrian crossing. From a construction standpoint given the fact that the overpass is scheduled to be completely rebuilt the committees decision essentially was that it was a waste of the taxpayers money to put in a pedestrian overpass at this juncture and then turn around and rebuild the overpass system in a 3 to 4 year period. And so the grant monies are there the CMAQ funds were redesignated to be used somewhere else in the State of Idaho that made sense. That was the direction of the committee with respect to the instructions for those monies in that grant. Bentley: Do we have a time table on that bridge? Morrow: On the overpass, at that juncture the projected time was fora 4 to 5 year period. It was not as I understand it, we are talking some 6 or 7 months ago 8 months ago. when that (inaudible) it was not a scheduled (inaudible) Maybe Councilman Rountree can elaborate further on that. Rountree: It is not in the 6 year plan at this point in time. Bentley: Thank you ITEM #3: FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR A JOHN DEERE DEALERSHIP BY CONTRACTORS EQUIPMENT SUPPLY CO.: Corrie: Council you have before you a fax from Jim Jones and Associates Attorneys Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 4 requesting that the Meridian City Council defer consideration of the amended findings of fact and conclusions of law until November 19, 1996 so that they can meet with -the City Attorney and go over some of the items that they had discussed in the letter. Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I would move to table to November 19. Rountree: Second Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Rountree that we table the findings of fact and conclusions of law for the conditional use permit request until November 19 meeting, any further discussion? All those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #4: REQUEST APPROVAL FOR PROPOSED MERIDIAN PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH: Corrie: Council, I believe you also got a notice that they would like to have this tabled to a later date. They did not give any time so I guess it is up to you to do that. Morrow: Mr. Mayor I would move that we table until the 19th and in the interim have the City Clerk make contact with those folk and see if there is another tentative date other than the 19th to table to. Rountree: Second Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Rountree to table until the 19th and have the Clerk contact them and see if a later date would be better then do so, any further discussion? All those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #5: REQUEST APPROVAL FOR PROPOSED REMODEL OF EXISTING LDS CHURCH AT CHERRY LANE AND TEN MILE ROAD: Corrie: Is a representative from the Church here today that would like to give us some information? Would you please come up and state your name please for the record? Simmons: Thank you Mr. Mayor and members of the Council my name is Steve Simmons with Lombard Conrad Architects in Boise, 1221 Shoreline Drive. I appreciate the opportunity to discuss this project with you this evening it is a little bit of an odd one in the Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 5 sense that trying to find records as to how the building came there in the first place is a little bit odd. The best we can figure it was perhaps annexed but we are not sure. So it is existing in an R-4 zone which Ms. Stiles letter and recommendations outlines is prohibited in that particular zone. But tonight we are asking permission to add on approximately 1248 foot addition to the end of the facility to accommodate some of the growth that the Church is experiencing at this time. Ms. Stiles has requested in the letter that we received this evening that the additional 45 foot right of way be granted. I have discussed that with the Church representative Mr. Garth Jenson who is here this evening as well. There is not a real problem with that except it does impact a few things and we would need some clarification on setbacks particularly as far as the front setbacks from that street. I have outlined a few things here I can show you in regards to that if you would like. I believed. you received (Inaudible) according to the survey that we have since obtained the jog that they are talking about, there is a 45 foot right of way granted over to about 1 /3 of the addition over in this direction over and then it jogs back to less than that on this direction here. So the 45 foot that we are requesting is not a problem to extend it just impacts a little bit of the setbacks in that area. Right now the building is sitting about 32 feet from the right of way which at least in the ordinance we have shows that (inaudible) the front setback in an R-4 zone. If taken to 45 feet at least in the worst case would be about 25 feet that setback would be reduced to instead of 30. We don't foresee that as a problem and that is something that I think needs to be addressed and clarified (inaudible). Other than that, there is no other impact for the project. I would be happy to entertain any questions or anything else from Ms. Stiles or the Council. Rountree: I just wanted to clarify a point you made that with the 45 foot from centerline right of way the buildings still has how many feet? Simmons: Twenty five, which is, and correct me if I am wrong but that is in compliance with a street side yard but not necessarily a front in that particular zone if we read that as an arterial or a collector street. Bentley: I have a question on if the proposed addition is encroaching on the setback requirements, would we be required to have a variance? Stiles: I would say yes that they would need to have a variance if it didn't meet the setback requirements for that zone. If you will excuse me one minute I will get the book and make sure of what it is in that zone. Simmons: I guess Mr. Mayor and members of the Council we would also like clarification perhaps on the height in that zone. I believe it is 35 feet for the building height but since we are looking at variance or definition of perhaps we can have some clarification on the steeple height falling under those same guidelines or not. Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 6 Stiles: The setback in an R-4 zone is 30 feet for an arterial or collector and the maximum building height would be 35 feet. Morrow: So Shari the question is do they need a variance for the (inaudible) you said the maximum building height is 35 feet. How high is your steeple Mr. Simmons? Simmons: It would certainly be in excess of 35 feet for the Steeple Council-man Morrow. Morrow: So I guess the question is are we cutting hairs here, is the steeple classified as part of the building or is it classified as something else? The building is less than 35 feet in terms of height but the steeple takes it over the 35 feet. So do we have, do we have classifications Stiles: I don't believe a steeple would be considered as part of the building height. The building height is defined as the vertical distance measured from the average elevation of the proposed finished grade at the front of the building to the highest point of the roof for flat roofs, to the deck line of mansard roofs and the top of the buildings walls for gable hip and gambrel roofs. It doesn't say anything about projections such as a steeple. Simmons: Mr. Mayor, with the, if the owner agrees to grant the 45 foot right of way then we would in fact be in violation of the setback as defined in the ordinance under those criteria. Corrie: That is correct. Simmons: The only other option that Ms. Stiles outline would be a rezone which wasn't the intent but I am not sure what would be the lesser of the two evils the variance of the rezone. I am assuming a rezone would be much more difficult, it normally is. Since this is right across the street from a commercial venture Albertson's I believe is going in right across the street or has gone. Corrie: Shari would that be a better way to go? Stiles: I don't know if it would be a better way to go. Rountree: Mr. Mayor, I can remember this project from a long time ago on Planning and Zoning. I don't know if any of the rest of you remember it from Council but it was my understanding that the zoning was appropriate at that time and the setbacks were applicable at that time. If they have changed with Ordinance changes or comprehensive plan changes is there a grand father function here that would come into play? I thought the area was rezoned with the annexation and the approval to build this. Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 7 Stiles: It probably was it would be in the same classification as the 7th day adventist that got rezoned seven years ago and at that time it was a permitted use but since then it is no longer even permitted with the conditional use seeing as it is a 4 month process to rezone I don't believe on the setbacks there would be any grandfather clause that was applicable because they are building a new portion that is encroaching in that setback. So, grandfather rights would not extend to new construction. Tolsma: (Inaudible) Morrow: Well so in order to move this along then in order to clean all of that up then the easiest way for us to do that would be the variance from the setback and be on down the road. And then these folk can be timely about their construction. Four months seems to me is a little too long and also from the standpoint Ron raises a good point the Stonehouse Church we dealt with we dealt with the LDS church and we dealt with the Seventh Day Adventist Church and did we also not deal with that (inaudible) that is vacant and is on the corner there in some manner of zoning? Rountree: I don't think so, I think that is still residential isn't it? Stiles: Yes, the southeast corner, yes it is residential R-4. Tolsma: (Inaudible) Rountree: There was one parcel in that, that fronted Cherry at one point in time that was approved for a garden shop or nursery tree farm. I don't Stiles: (Inaudible) that was a little closer to that was a little further east and it was right adjacent to Haven Cove. I don't know that Ada County Highway District is going to request that 45 feet I was just stating that 45 feet from the centerline is what is typical that we have been requiring for all section line roads. Rountree: I think at the time of this it was 40 feet we were looking at an 80 foot total. Tolsma: What is ACHD's plans on widening Ten Mile? Morrow: Well Ron those plans (inaudible) Rountree: I think what you see is what you get. Morrow: The plan was is for the 90 foot right of way on all section line roads and ultimately the five lane build out. And so I think that right where this church is, is that not where the • Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 9 Stiles: I did ask for that but since I was the one that put it on the agenda basically I guess the request has been verbally withdrawn. Morrow: So there is no discussion and it is off the agenda. Corrie: Thank you Shari. ITEM #7: LATE COMERS AGREEMENT FOR CANDLELIGHT SUBDIVISION BY MCBEE CORPORATION: Corrie: Bruce, do we have that? We don't have it with our in our packet. Freckleton: You don't have copies of it in your packet? Corrie: No Morrow: We don't have any information concerning it. Freckleton: Mr. Mayor and members of the Council I will give you a brief synopsis here of what has transpired. In 1983 or 1993 excuse me a late comers agreement was drafted for Candlelight Subdivision. The agreement was signed by the developer this was during the time when Jack was going through his treatments and this sort of thing. We lost Jack and we had Wayne Forrey involved, the agreement never did get executed by the City and never was recorded. The ball kind of got dropped and in 1994 the developers built phase 3 of Candlelight Subdivision and installed an additional bunch of 12 inch water main in Ten Mile Road and Ustick Road. At that point in time they wrote us and requested that the additional expense be added to the late comers agreement. They recently contacted me to find out where things were and in my research I found that nothing had been done on this agreement since the original draft of 1993. I got together with Wayne Crookston we went through, we re-calculated it because of the increased service area and the increased costs. We ,have drafted a new agreement, we have sent it down to California to the developers for their review, they have reviewed it, they have signed it, they sent a faxed copy of the signature portion back to us for tonight's meeting. I do have that, I thought that you guys had it too. They are in total agreement to it we just need to move forward and approve that agreement if possible and get the Mayor's and City Clerk's signatures. Corrie: You say the City Attorney has looked at this and approved it? Freckleton: Yes Corrie: My suggestion to the Council would be that we make sure that he has. Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 10 • Morrow: I am prepared to make a motion that the Council approve the late comers agreement for Candlelight subdivision by McBee Corporation subject to the City Attorney sign off and approval having obtained that we would authorize the Mayor to sign and the Clerk to attest that late comers agreement. Rountree: Second Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Rountree to approve the late comers agreement subject to the Attorney sign off and if it is done so that the Mayor would sign and the City Clerk would attest, any further discussion? All those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #8: BILL SIMONS, 675 S. CINDER ROAD: REQUEST HOOK UP TO CITY SEWER: Corrie: Bruce? Freckleton: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, Mr. Simons came into our office I believe it was last week, Tuesday. He lives out on Llnder Road across from the Landing Subdivision. His property fronts Llnder Road, fronts the sewer and water mains that were installed by Skyline for the Landing Subdivision. Mr. Simons has been experiencing some problems with his septic drain field has failed and he requested connection to the sewer. Last week we explained to him the situation with his property being situated in the County that it would require a City Council approval and also the situation that exists with having to pay double assessments for that connection. Mr. Simons did come and he paid the double assessments, he took care of all of the fees and we got him moving ahead on that. I think he had some comments that he wanted to raise tonight. Simons: I don't know what comments I want to make but other than the fact, the double fee kind of bothers me because, I have to pay it I will pay it. That street has been torn up so much so long we have had to alter our way of getting in there on many occasions I had to park vehicles down the road. I couldn't' get into my own driveway for I don't know how many times. Then when they built the bridge now they have diverted us around the subdivision across a lot, I don't even know whose lot is was but it was a vacant lot with ruts and holes and it was horrendous. I have broken windshield from it. The inconvenience it was just unbelievable. I anticipate more because they approved a subdivision down the street and they went halfway back. Now they are going to go down around to Waltman Lane and then they are going to come back around. So I anticipate one of these days and I don't even mind being part of the (inaudible) of the City we are surrounded anyway. But my biggest thing I was wondering if there was any chance of getting a reduced rate. u Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 11 Morrow: Mr. Mayor, Mr. Simons the issue with the double fees is a requirement of the bonds that were originally passed to build the sewer plant and the bonds were sold with that stipulation. So that is not something that this Council or future councils has any say over at all, it was part of the agreement of the original bonds. Corrie: Council I will entertain a motion. Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I would move that we approve the hook ups for Bill and Charmaine Simons at 675 South Linder Road. Rountree: Second Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Rountree to approve the hook up on the sewer to 675 South Linder Road by Mr. Simons, any further discussion? All those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #9: WATER/SEWER/TRASH DELINQUENCIES: Corrie: This is to inform you in writing if you choose to you have the right to a pre- determination hearing at 7:30 P.M. November 6, 1996 before the Mayor and City Council to appear in person to be judged on the facts and defend the claim made by this City that your water, sewer and trash bill is delinquent. You may retain counsel. The service will be discontinued on November 13, 1996 unless payment is received in full. If there is anyone present that wishes to contest their water, sewer or trash delinquency? Hearing none they are hereby informed that they may appeal or have the decision of the City reviewed by the Fourth Judicial District Court pursuant to Idaho Code. Even though they appeal their water will be shut off and the amount of the turn off list is $26,517.16. Council, entertain a motion on the delinquency turn off list. Morrow: So moved Tolsma: Second Corrie: Motion made and seconded that we (inaudible) for turn off on November 13, 1996, any further discussion? All those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #10: APPROVE BILL: • Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 12 Morrow: So moved Tolsma: Second C~ Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Tolsma for approval of the bills, any further discussion? All those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #11: DEPARTMENT REPORTS: Corrie: Mr. Chief? Gordon: Nothing Mr. Mayor. Corrie: Shari? Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council I apologize for the lateness of this, I received this information today. La Playa Estates has been floundering I guess is a good word for it on what to do with their subdivision. What they are proposing is a lot line adjustment and you can see by the map attached there that it is quite extensive for a lot line adjustment. I had requested that they replat just for the sake of clarity and being able to track these lots. They are actually reducing either 4 or 5 lots from the entire plat. Their problem is the market that they thought existed for duplex homes on small lots does not exist. They have found that some of the people in Meridian have a lot more money than they thought they did. I guess I don't expect any answer from you tonight but if you would have time to look at this and what they are proposing. One problem Gary has is removing some of the services that currently exist in the fact that they would have to make special accommodations in the driveways for those services. Morrow: Excuse me you are talking about water and sewer stub outs and electric and phone and cable T.V. those services? Stiles: Yes, primarily the sewer and water and how they would have to accommodate those if they happen to appear under a driveway. Morrow: Well Shari I guess a technical question, you know typically power outlets and gas outlets and across the front of the lots are immediately adjacent and with an easement to the property lines. If you are trying to do a lot line adjustment then all of those things fall outside those easements because you have two easements coming together. You have the front street easement and you have the sideyard easement. Now does this stuff fall ~ ~ Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 13 outside of that in some cases, I am asking the question. Stiles: I would think if you did a simple lot line adjustment it would move with the lot line. But in this case where they are actually removing lots I know Ada County and Boise City do have provisions in the ordinance for a reduction in density, but we don't. Morrow: I guess let me rephrase the question, are these services already in existence? Stiles: Yes Morrow: Okay, so anytime you are going to adjust a lot line if it is just a one lot thing that is not a big issue but from what I was seeing on this plat map here substantially readjusting the entire subdivision. So that certainly has got to impact those services in some manner. Do we have any input from the developer or his engineer as to how they are going to deal with that issue? Stiles: We don't and this is about the third version of this redraw that I have seen. I guess my concern is that every other week we will see another lot line adjustment. Morrow: Are you asking for my input is that the reason for this presentation so that you can give that to these people? Stiles: Yes, they want to do it through a lot line adjustment, I would prefer to see it done through a plat even if it were Council to relax the standards which is allowed by ordinance to not require them to go completely through the whole process again. It basically impacts our public works department. Morrow: I guess my answer to you then in terms of what I would like to see is that I would like to see a plat. I have no problem with having the plat just work at the City Council level (inaudible) I do want to see the answers in writing as to how the adjustments will be made to the services to and including on the back lot lines, the .phone and cable T.V. On the front lot lines the water, sewer, gas and electric. And how those things will be handled. Stiles: But you would approve, could we even do it without a public hearing? Morrow: I don't have a problem, with that. Rountree: I don't see that is necessary. Stiles: Just to come directly with a revised final plat to Council? L~ Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 14 • Morrow: That is acceptable to me but I want part of that and I want it on the record of how they are going to handle those utilities because speaking from my stand point in my profession is that this could be a nightmare if those utilities are not sited properly. Tolsma: One thing that might help is if they had the original final plat of that and what they proposed with the adjusted lot lines as an overlay to show where the water and sewer lines are going to connect and where the stubs are out and do the same thing with their extensions for power and cable T.V. and telephone and things like that. Stiles: On this they do show stub outs, I believe they are sewer. I don't know if those are water or not, but in some cases they would have 2 services now serving one lot. They were concerned, they didn't want to go through the plat process because of the time it has taken that they have been 6 months just doing this. Rountree: For 26 lots, right? Stiles: Well it started out with it was 3 and then it turned into substantially more. Tolsma: I think Gary would like to see for his record drawings for his water and sewer would be to have another plat drawn up showing exactly where the new ones are going to be in relation to the lots so that he has an idea of where everything is going to be (inaudible). Stiles: Part of their request as well is they were, I had asked you this before they wanted to do zero lot line development and only have five feet in between the buildings. I guess for that they really would need a variance because our lot line, our zero lot line even in the zero lot tine the buildings are required to be 10 feet apart. I have had engineers say that with only five feet even with the fire walls it just creates a vacuum and doesn't really help anything to do that. I guess they can address that with a new plat application. Morrow: (Inaudible) but to give you a hint of my position is that I am not willing to (inaudible) that distance. Rountree: I think I would only be willing to consider the replatting of these lots and to increase the decrease the density but not to even consider changing any other conditions or ordinance requirements. If that is what they want then I would say that is, take it back to the public hearing process. Corrie: Is the Council pretty much agreed to that? Freckleton: Excuse me Shari, I have one question, I think the map is a real good idea, I • • Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 15 think all of the utilities probably should be shown on that. Power, gas, telephone the works. The other question I had is, are there going to have to be any easements vacated and rededicated because of this? We have common easements down between lot lines, if we are going to be moving lot lines where do we stand on those existing easements? Morrow: Well Bruce if you are going to do a new plat then void the old plat and it would also void the old easements I would think. Stiles: I am not sure when they did the original plat that they dedicated any easements for utilities as is the typical plat because of them thinking they were going to have all duplex units. Freckleton: You do dedicate easements with a plat but with a resubdivision like Walt said that will go away. I think that maybe some input from the utility companies might not be a bad idea. They are going to be impacted just as much as we would. Power boxes might be in the middle of driveways. Morrow: Well I guess Bruce from my perspective that is why I am asking to have those issues addressed and asking to see it on the plat because the issue is unless those things are adjusted to the rightful place I am not sure that I can support the change. So I want to make sure part of the presentation includes how those things are going to be handled so that we as a Council can make the determination of whether we want to do that or not. Freckleton: It sounds good. Stiles: Great, thank you very much. Corrie: Bruce? Freckleton: Mr. Mayor and members of the Council, I do have one item. as you may or may not be aware we have a subdivision Los Alamitos Subdivision that has a street named Mr. Tink Place. I have a petition here that has been signed by the residents of Mr. Tink Place requesting a name change. The Ada County Street Name Committee has reviewed this application and approved a new name. The Ada County Engineer John Priester has requested that Meridian City Council formally approve the name change with an understanding that the residents of Mr. Tink Place are not going to hold the City in any way responsible for any financial responsibility that they might incur because of the name change. IN essence the name change is for magazine subscriptions or checks or you have, billings that sort of thing. The Ada County Engineer has requested that we do pass that through. Incidentally the new approved name is S. River Downs Place. • Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 16 Bentley: Mr. Mayor, I have dealt with several of these. It doesn't create a problem for the postal service but it is advisable that all of the people that live on the street fill out a change of address card just like they had moved and then submit it to the postal service and then they already have it on record. The postal service is notified of these street changes. But it helps if they can notify their own magazine subscriptions and get the change of address (inaudible) and that will help speed up their situation so they don't lose anything. Rountree: Mr. Mayor, Bruce, does this signed document here with residents here of Mr. Tink Place soon to S. River Downs is that the sum total of the residents on that street? Freckleton: I don't know for sure. Rountree: It looks like it might be, just curious. Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I would move that we authorize the change in name from S. Mr. Tink Place to S. River Downs Place and forward to the Ada County Engineer John Preister a letter indicating that we have approved of that change and that the condition of that change would be that neither the City of Meridian or Ada County (End of Tape) have any financial responsibility for any cost that may be incurred by the residents of that street in that name change. Bentley: Second Corrie: Motion made and seconded to approve the request as stated in the letter the letter to the Ada County Engineer, any further discussion? All those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea Corrie: Mr. Morrow? Morrow: In the spirit of keeping with the precedence set by or staff and it should be followed by all members of the Council the only point I wish to bring up is to remind everybody is that we do have a meeting a noon meeting with Joint City/ACHD at their shop at 318 E. 37th on Friday. Item 2 on the agenda I find very distressing, apparently what has been five lanes and has been budgeted for five lanes for the last 5 or 6 years not we are going to have a discussion on three lanes versus 5 lanes on Franklin Road. I think I am beginning to develop a kind of militant attitude concerning this and ACRD given the (inaudible) the fact that there are businesses. The street is mostly developed out them are several businesses that are planning improvements or changes predicated upon that roadway system being built. There is no advantage to us as a community to make the Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 17 change from 5 to 3 lanes. I don't know where this thinking is coming from this is kind of a shot out of the dark, it is brand new, it has never been discussed at any of the ACHD Citizen Advisory Committee meetings nor has it been discussed at the Meridian Transportation planning meetings, nor was it, it is in ACHD's budget for the coming year and the five year work plan for that five lane improvements. I guess what I am asking is that between now and Friday each of us think of what our thoughts are concerning that and then address that fairly aggressively. If we are in concurrence and we wish to stay at the five lanes at this juncture. That is all I have Mr. Mayor. Corrie: I highly concur with you Mr. Morrow, I would ask that each Council member kind of touch base with me before we go Friday and I will give you some background information on where they came from and I think you will stick to your guns on that one. Can Ipiggy-back just a second, I had a call from Dick Holtz from the Blue Cross building. They asked the Ada County Commissioners if the could use the impact fees that are going to be generated it is about $150,000 to go into the traffic signals and that corner there where it is coming on Pine Street rather than later. They feel that there is going to be a lot of traffic as soon as that building is built and also if the possibility of that postal program going in over there that could be a very highly travelled intersection and needing the signalization. Ada County signal people are not too sure they have the money to do that. I just want you to think about that and there is a possibility that you may want to address that with them as well. But the Blue Cross has asked me to bring that up to the Council, they would like to use that Pine and Eagle Road some of that money to signal that intersection because that could be a pretty difficult one. Mr. Bentley? Bentley: I dropped in everybody's boxes a proposed postal planned facility at Eagle and Pine. The Mayor received a letter on the 28th and this is the project that I touched base on with all of you several months ago. It appears that it is narrowing down to I am guessing two sites. Their first main concern was availability of the sewer, when I called the post office Monday the plant facilities people and discussed this with them they weren't even aware that we were still in the running. They thought the sewer issue had shot it out of the water. As you can see I got the information on what their operation is, the amount of trucks and the sizes. We are basically looking at semis running in and out of there for 24 hours a day. The need for that traffic light and it is at Pine, the need for that traffic light will be immediate. That building if they do select this site will be a pre-fab, it will be up and running in very short time. The building size is something like quarter of a million square. They are going to take up 20 to 25 acres out there. And what they will be doing in that building they will be sorting mail for the entire Southern half of the state and Eastern Idaho or Eastern Oregon. It is the same facility that is down on 13th Street that they have split off and they have part of it over on Lee and Miller Street downtown in Boise. But it will alt be housed under one building with even more extensive equipment will be put in. They are going to the mode now of their equipment that will sort mail so that the carriers don't have • • Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 18 to sort it in the office. It will come directly street routed for them. They do this for like I said the entire Southern half of the State. So you are looking 375 employees and a 24 hour operation 365 days a year. So the truck traffic as I showed you there is going to be quite extensive. They are probably going to have to have an acceleration lane for those semis and everything else out there. So the light issue is going to be really important. Morrow: I have a question for Councilman Rountree, given the fact that is a State highway does ACRD do the signals or is that State highway that does those? Rountree: Well the State standards would rank in terms of requirements. And I am sure that anything the State would require would meet the requirements of ACHD. So the permission to put the signal there has to be granted by the State. It has to meet the appropriate design. Morrow: I know that when we put the signals on Ustick and Eagle and on McMillan and Eagle we did that through ACHD and it was a high grade deal. Rountree: I don't know that would be allowed on that facility because it is a controlled access facility. Any signal that you put on that State Highway is going to have to be done by permitting and I believe that there is a light scheduled in that area. So it is probably not a problem but there is going to be a light and it is going to have to meet the requirements of the State traffic people. Morrow: So what the issue is they will be the prevailing agency and everybody else will be subservient to them. Rountree: Usually, they want want to protect the free flow of State traffic as well as the community. That is what they will, that is the interest they will be looking at. Morrow: Thank you Mr. Mayor. Corrie: I would be more than happy to write the letter to the postal authorities and tell them we would rather they do this in Boise rather than here if everybody would concur, but you talk to me after the meeting. I don't particularly want to have all of that acreage taken up, that is awful good land for no taxes on it. We will talk with ACRD on that on Friday then. Mr. Bentley? Bentley: I have a couple of things, one thing I have got, I don't know if you have caught the news they are talking about the setting up a commuter train to run from Nampa, Caldwell into Boise. I have got the pamphlet that has all the information on the train if anybody is interested in looking at it. ITD has jumped on the wagon now, they are talking they want Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 19 it in place in two years. So, like I said I have the information on that if somebody would like to look at it. Also, I would like to see a committee formed, I will put this out for whatever move we need to talk on it. I would like to see a citizens advisory committee on safety, traffic safety. I would like to see Chief Gordon be the head of that. I think it is time that we start taking a look at our own traffic safety problems and not have someone from other jurisdictions overseeing it. I think we can do a far better job ourselves. In conjunction with that, the Mayor has received quite a few letters from subdivisions and subdivision organizations that they would like to see the speed limits in the subdivisions dropped from 25 to 20. Our ordinance currently reads that the posted speed limit in Meridian is 25 unless otherwise posted. I would like to get with Counsel and maybe have him redirect the ordinance and change that. I would like to hear what your feelings are on that. Corrie: Would you like to put that as part of the planning meeting for discussion? Bentley: We could do that. Morrow: I think we need to discuss it because the issue is if you and I need to think it through but off the top of my head is that I don't have a problem with a safety committee or a committee in general if the committee can do something. But the point is that those all fall under the purview of ACHD. (Inaudible) you can't get anything accomplished, I think we need to research how that happens so it can function correctly. (Inaudible) we have met some resistance sortie opposition on some of those kinds of things. So I think we need to think through what it is we want to do and how we want to get it done so that it is effective. I think that probably it makes a lot of sense for us to put that on the agenda for the planning meeting and between now and then we can kind of collect our thoughts about it (inaudible) Bentley: Chief, do you have anything you want to say in line with that? Gordon: I recently contacted Boise City to see how they interact and associate with ACHD. Their police department STEP team, selective traffic enforcement team meets with Joe Roselund on a weekly basis. They have been doing this for some time and their wishes as far as speed limits, traffic control devices, or have been met to this date. They don't have any problem with ACHD unlike problems that I am having which are constant. One of them on the agenda for Friday is because of my disagreement with ACRD and it is on speed limits. I don't seem to be getting any type of cooperation out of them at all within the last year and a half to two years. I am looking for because of the size of the town some assistance rather than me making these decisions I would rather have a committee an advisory committee make these decisions and report to you folks. Maybe this would foster some type of cooperation, maybe it would take the load off of just my decisions and put it back on say the group or the Council. It would give you the decision making and the • • Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 20 traffic safety committee would just be the advisory. Listen to the complaints, do the leg work and then propose it to you folks. I am not getting any ground at all through ACRD. I am arguing with them right now over painting diagonal lines. They refuse to paint the diagonal lines in the City limits. We have several streets in the City that have diagonal lines and have had for years. They came in on their seal coating their chipping they covered up what little diagonal lines I had left and they refuse to replace those lines. They claim we have to pay for that ourselves. Corrie: That is the parking. Gordon: I am dealing with Gary Owens who said that Terry Little and Joe Roselund think it is is an excessive maintenance and they won't paint diagonal lines. First Street there is limited diagonal parking on the First Street. They approved those bulbs at the time we constructed that street and now they refuse to paint those diagonal lines. That is just an example of the problems that I am having. Morrow: You know Bill, let me throw this out to you, it strikes me that, ACHD is becoming fairly political as opposed to what it used to be when we had Chuck Winder and Jim Bruce and Glenn Rhodes and before him Dwight Board. Also we had Chris Schwartzkoff as a director. It appears to me that at least with respect to our City that we are sliding backwards a whole bunch across the board. Maybe what would be appropriate is if you could get us a little list of the top ten so that when we meet on Friday maybe we have to go back to being adversarial. The issue was that at one time we were very adversarial and things changed very quickly. Now it seems like every time we turn around it is new deal that lays us away to the benefit of someone else in the County somewhere else in the County. And so what I think I would like to see is that if you can give us a list of the issues that you are concerned about let's get them on the table Friday and talk about them. Gordon: That wouldn't be a problem at all. Morrow: Well would you please do that and put a copy in each of our boxes? Gordon: Yes sir I will definitely do that. This is the first time I have ever worked under these conditions. I am not used a street department not complying with City wishes. I still think that our tax dollars pay their wages and I think they should respond to what the City of Meridian requests. Something as minor as painted lines on a road. Morrow: This is a perfect example of regional anything, this is our first regional thing and I know that in think tanks and conferences that have been going on within the Valley over the last 2 to 3 years there are lots of other whole potential regional things being talked about. The reality is this is what really happens in regional stuff. So I think that you want • Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 21 • to look at regional anything with a fairly jaundiced eye understanding how it really works. Here is a case in point. So the best I can suggest to you is give us a list of the issues and we will bring them up and hammer away at them and see where we can go. Gordon: I will do that, you will have them first thing tomorrow. Rountree: One thing I would suggest too Bill is if you are dealing with Terry Little and the folks in Garden City you might want to cultivate a relationship with the folks at the Cloverdale maintenance unit. Those people can do a lot for you for a cup of coffee and will without the people in Garden City knowing what is going on. So if you need lines painted or some maintenance activities taken care of if you can work with the maintenance (inaudible) out there you are going to I think see some results. They are usually pretty cooperative or they try to be. I don't know if you have had success there or not or have even tried it. Gordon: I talked with Gary Owens approximately some time in the middle of the summer about those diagonal lines. He assured me it was no problem. Last Thursday an ACRD truck pulled up in front of the Police Station with a work order. I went out thinking they were going to paint the lines, he had an order to paint six lines. in front of the police department only. I asked him or advised him if he was only going to paint six lines I didn't want them in front of the police station I wanted them on the opposite side of the road. His response was the order says this side and that is all I can do. If you want anything other than this side it will take you 2 to 3 months I have to take it back to ACRD. So naturally I kind got a little excited and told him I didn't want any lines. No lines are better than 6 lines on the wrong side of the road. Rountree: Were you the one that got the diamond lane striped on Ten Mile on the substandard lane widths and we now have a striped bike lane on both sides? Gordon: (Inaudible) I have had absolutely no cooperation at all. It is probably the most frustrating thing that I do for the City of Meridian is trying to work with those people. Rountree: Ten Mile is becoming the showcase of major miscommunication on the part of ACHD. Corrie: Council again, I would urge each one of you to contact me because I have some information, I don't want to give it tonight. I would like to give it to you individually , I think it will clear up a lot of this at our meeting Friday very quickly. Again, I don't want to put it on record. Bentley: I have more, back at budget time we discussed getting the cost of fire runs. I am C~ Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 22 • just wanting to know where are we with this. Are we going to proceed with this or how do we proceed? Morrow: Well I think the discussion at that time was a cost study of the fire department in terms of rural and city expenditures or cost of doing business and see where those balances were. That is a study that will have to be done or initiated by the rural fire department and the City representative and they would have to pick somebody to determine that cost (inaudible) RFP (inaudible) that is not something that the expertise lies within this body to do. Very similar to an RFP (inaudible) Bentley: I am just wondering if we couldn't start the process somehow so we have this thing completed before the next budget year starts. Tolsma: I can bring it up at the next meeting, next Tuesday. Rountree: I think rural wanted to do that too so (inaudible) Bentley: Mr. Mayor, were you going to address the Freightliner? Corrie: Yes (inaudible) Rountree: I have a long list but I will keep it to just one. We had the inaugural meeting of the Parks and Recreation Committee a week ago. We had everybody present but two members. One was ill and one was absent for unknown reasons. A good group of folks I think they have a lot of energy, they have some good ideas, it was just an introductory meeting to meet one another. Our next meeting is scheduled for the 5th of December at which time we will select a Commission president and vice president. The one thing that we did do was assign terms to the members of the Commission. I will get those to Will. The other item is an item of clean up I think on the ordinance the ordinance says that , it sets up three groups of three members to phase in an phase out. The first group of three are to have been phased out by October of 1996. So I would suggest and 1 suggested this to the Commission that we that I would bring it to the Council and that we would by agreement or by a motion just move those calendar dates back one year instead of October 1996 it would be October 1997, October 1997 be October 1998 and 1998 be 1999. Morrow: Do you have to to do that Charlie given the fact that the phase out would have been October 1, 1996. But in theory they have been reappointed for a three year term. Rountree: That is another way to approach it. • Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 23 Morrow: I think that is the way I look at it in terms of the (inaudible) Rountree: Okay, so there would be 3 people that need to be reappointed to 1999. Morrow: That is the way I look at it and (inaudible) we could concur or not concur as the case might be. Bentley: You have to understand that we had a contractor and an Idaho attorney draw that up. (Inaudible) Rountree: So if that is the way we will handle it we will in our meeting the first of December we will get those folks here and take action I guess on whether or not those three folks that volunteered for the one year term get renominated to a 3 year term. Are you going to talk about the pocket park? Corrie: Mr. Totsma? Tolsma: No Corrie: Okay, real quick you have the information on the plaza pocket park design proposal. I was hoping that we would have the three dimensional, the elevations for you to look at tonight. It is a little hard to see this but the concept here has been drawn up by the architectural department of the University of Idaho, I thought they would be here tonight. If this meets with your approval we will get this moving as of tomorrow. One of the things that I am really concerned about is the girl scouts troop the nine girls have to really get this started before January 1 to get their Eagle awards or I guess it is the gold awards. Rountree: Golden Scout awards. Corrie: It is pretty simple layout, they wanted to also get started on donations for the park from people and this will be tiles, brick type thing inside there which people will want to sign up and have their name to brick and this type of thing they want to do that. My purpose tonight was just to make sure that everybody got this design that they don't have any problems with it. As soon as I get that, hopefully tomorrow I will see that everybody gets copies in your boxes the colored ones on the elevations in that. It is open, it doesn't Iqok like it is open here but talking to Mr. Hanson the architect it is an open very open and then we talked with Betty (inaudible) about the other part, with the grass. The fountain that they have there is one similar to the grove, it is flat. It has hooks if you want to put a Christmas tree there at Christmas time it can hook down there and that type of thing. If • Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 24 you want to do that at all, that is a just a concept the way it would look. Morrow: I have a technical question, did you say that the University of Idaho architects have been working on this deal? Corrie: I am sorry that is what I said. Morrow: Let me ask you this, are they anything like the University of Idaho legal (inaudible) Corrie: (Inaudible) Morrow: My last question is the brick and the you are talking about is an example of that the centennial display in Story Park? Corrie: Same type of concept yes, Ray the Builders Marketplace, they have already given us a bid a low cost bid on it for what they could get it at their cost. One guy could lay that in a Saturday. Morrow: (Inaudible) Corrie: Charlie do you have anything else? Rountree: Has anything come of the coordination of the (inaudible) Corrie: Not at this point we thought when we get the color scheme and elevation show it to her and see what it (inaudible). Rountree: I would like to see us just get this a blessing and let's get on with it. Corrie: Does the Council agree that this could be possible? Morrow: I don't see anything wrong with this at all, the issue is we have the 3D drawing coming in the next day or so let's take a peek at that and go from there. Corrie: I need to meet with those girl scouts and get them started so if everybody seems to be in agreement with that we will go ahead. Freckleton: Mr. Mayor, the only question I have got on that is we have the fuel contamination there on that site. I don't know what you are thinking as far as construction schedule but I think we ought to maybe take a look at where we stand on that issue today. Whether we have a clean bill of health on that property before we. Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 25 Corrie: I have a thing in my desk that says we do. Freckleton: Okay, I haven't seen anything. Corrie: One other thing, the Christmas lights for the East 1st for the City of Meridian Chamber of Commerce is not going to do that after this year. They wanted to know if the City wanted to take it over, I am trying to see if I can't have them do it one more year and then we can discuss it as far as the City is concerned. It would be about a $300 to $500 a year bill to the City if the City does it. We are trying to see if we can't get the Optimist or some of the other clubs to take it over. We are not getting too much of a Morrow: What does take over mean? Corrie: Put them up, they have having trouble getting a bucket truck to put the lots up and the banners along E. 1 st Street. So I think the Optimist will do it this year if they can have their Christmas Trees down at the old Intermountain Arms building. Morrow: The Chamber is going to do it this year and then a year from now maybe the Optimist will. Corrie: Or we will have to, I just wanted you to be aware that there is, that the Chamber is not going to be doing it. Morrow: And their reasoning is? Corrie: I don't know, they just can't get anybody to do it. It is hard to get people together. Morrow: How many bodies Corrie: About six to ten people to do it. They are not doing it on Meridian Road anymore it is just down East 1st. But they are having trouble getting a bucket truck and the liability and everything else that is involved with it. So they, the Board of Directors just said we don't want to do it anymore. So rather than let it go completely out of whack we think the Council should take a look at it and see if they want to do it the following year. If I can work the deal out with the Optimist they will go ahead and get a bucket truck this year and put the signs up. I think Ron has been doing some metal work (inaudible) that is going to be paid for by the Chamber so that is not an expense to us. That is all I guess I have. Oh, Freight Liner, I got a call from Roy but he called Freight Line, they had make the contract with Freight Line people and the contract is that is open 24 hours a day and Freight Line said yes they were moving and they will be open 24 hours a day. So I want you to be aware that is what they are saying, so in case we have to do our ordinance for our Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 26 conditional use permit we need to get our attorney lined up because the Freight Line people said yes they have the new contract and they will be doing it 24 hours a day. Morrow: You are talking about Freightliner? Corrie: Freightliner and Howell which we have a conditional use which is only certain hours and he told Freightliner they were going to go 24 hours regardless. Morrow: Well the issue is he is in violation of the conditional use permit, we revoke the conditional use permit it is pretty simple. Corrie: Just so you know Rountree: Before he gets a building permit. Morrow: You can't revoke a conditional use permit before he gets a building permit because he hasn't violated it at that juncture. Corrie: I don't know what the penalty is going to be, he just may take the penalty and say I am going to run it anyway. Morrow: Well the issue Bob is that we don't end up with an injunction (inaudible). Corrie: I think you better be aware of what is coming down the pipe though. Just for your information. City Clerk? Anybody have anything else, hearing none? Oh, I am sorry, Harold Cox, the past City Clerk has requested that he be allowed to place a Payette Rock it is a memorial to the site of the old City Hall and also in dedication under his auspices dedicating it to Harold Cox. Morrow: His son is requesting this. Corrie: Harold will foot the bill and the whole thing on it. So I would like to have the Council's approval to go ahead and do that. Morrow: So moved Rountree: Second Corrie: Motion made and seconded we approve of that motion, all those in favor? Opposed? Meridian City Council November 6, 1996 Page 27 MOTION CARRIED: All Yea Corrie: I will entertain a motion to adjourn. Morrow: So moved Rountree: Second Corrie: Motion made and seconded, all those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:50 P.M. (TAPE ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS) APPROVED: w~ CORRIE, MAYOR ATTEST: ~~i WILLIAM G. BERG, JR., C ~~ ~T~i r L -_ $~Ah _ `f f,~~~~~~dersia rt111~~,°,,\`\`` MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL AGENDA WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 6, 1996 - 7:30 P.M. CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8: 9. 10. 11. MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING HELD OCTOBER 15, 1996: a~-~r®v~ TABLED OCTOBER 15, 1996: FINAL PLAT FOR BEDFORD PLACE SUBDIVISION NO. 3 BY RIGHTON CORPORATION: FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT CENTER BY SELECT D V LO MENT AND CONTRACTING INC.: ~j~/~'ov~~ ~~~ ~ c~ lc ,ors/~ Q'PCi~"~ca.. ~ C'C~~' FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR A JOHN DEERE DEALERSHIP BY CONTRACTORS EQ~IIPMENT SUPPLY CO.: ~ ~ Gv~ 7 /~o r/, l 1 ~' h2 t~ a.r ~c v~~~ P.T~~GC REQUEST APPROVAL FOR PROPOSED MERIDIAN PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH: ~~ Gv~•tl ~~, l~? h„f~ ~.r~L l~~~ef~cC~ REQUEST APPROVAL FOR PROPOSED REMODEL OF EXISTING LDS CHURCH AT CHERRY LANE AND TEN MILE ROAD: GJi7~ !tee ~C va~.~~,~ cep DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED ANDERSON LUMBER PROJECT AT THE OLD IFA BUILDING ON FAIRVIEW AVENUE: ~vi~-hG~2a.r,~`~ ~ j a~,a-~ c~.-t LATE COMERS AGREEMENT FOR CANDLELIGHT SUBDIVISION BY MCBEE CORPORATION: G~~DVDG'2~ BILL SIMONS, 675 S. CINDER ROAD: REQUEST HOOK UP TO CITY SEWER: C~O~I'p/~2 SC~weti dCao~-u~p WATER/SEWER/TRASH DELINQUENCIES: ~~~~v-e. APPROVE BILLS: a~OrJrov~ DEPARTMENT REPORTS: CTTY OF MERIDIAN PUBL~ MEETING SIGN-IJ~HEET NAME PHONE NUMBER Gr~~f'~1 ~~~ ~ ~ ~J~ ~ -~ozq DELINQUENCY FOR OCTOBER TURNOFF SCHEDULED FOR 10/02/96 MAYOR: This is to inform you in writing, if you choose to, you have the right to a pre-determination hearing at 7:30 P.M. , NOV. 6,1996 before the Mayor and the City Council to appear in person to be judged on the facts and defend the claim made by this City that your water, sewer and trash bill is delinquent. You may retain councel. This service will be discontinued on NOV. 13, 1996, unless payment is received in full. Is there anyone present who wishes to contest their water, sewer and trash delinquency? No response. MAYOR: They are hereby informed that they may appeal or have the decision of the City reviewed by the Fourth Judicial District Court, pursuant to Idhao Code. Even though they appeal, their water will be shut off. The amount of the turn off list is $ 26,517.16 ~J'~ a'~ :- ~ • ` - DELINQUENCY LIST TURN OFF LIST SCHEDULE FOR 11/13/96 ACCOUNT# NAME & ADDRESS AMT. PAST DUE 1-10 CHARLES MADSEN 102.60 725 MERIDIAN ST 1-491 GLADYS CLYMENS 229.00 SPRINKLER 724 BRDWY 1-770 THOMAS DEUBER 121.40 511 W BROADWAY AV 1-800 SID & SHELLY BREWER 199.20 423 W BROADWAY AV 1-890 STAN LANTZ 63.60 608 W 3RD ST 1-1810 GLADYS CLYMENS 56.40 729 W IDAHO AV 1-2420 BARBARA & OLEG MIRONOV 109.60 1586 W BIDDICK ST 1-3310 EMIL & ESTHER BRINCKEN 159.60 711 W PINE AV 2-446 RAYMOND BOBKO 112.96 586 W CRITERION ST 2-710 BLAKE & KERRY KESNER 107.30 920 W 11TH ST 2-860 DEAN ANDERSON 212.82 1200 W PINE AV 2-950 RITCHIE & SUSAN GAYTHIWAIT 91.50 1442 W STATE ST 2-970 DAVID ROEPKER 104.80 1419 W STATE ST 1 R • 2-1190 A TERRELL 1324 W 1ST ST 2-1250 ELIZABETH WEAKLEY 1528 W 1ST ST 2-1570 MICHAEL LOCK 1410W2NDST 2-1610 DENICE DESILET 1502 W 2ND ST 2-1690 E RALPH NASH 1616 W 2ND ST 2-1870 LARRY PIPER 306 W MAPLE AV 2-1960 DONALD M DICKSON 233 W MAPLE AV 2-1970 KERRY L CARSON 225 W MAPLE AV 2-2130 SHAWN & PIXIE BALDWIN 207 CAMILLIA AV 2-2150 LOUIE J NEAGLE 216 CHERRY AV 2-2180 DUWAIN SHEPARD 238 CHERRY AV 2-2280 RICHARD SCHERER 201 CHERRY AV 2-2460 LISA L COX 1230 W 4TH ST 2-2500 ELLEN BAILEY 338 CHERRY AV 2-2550 PAUL PACK 1313 W 4TH ST 111.20 110.20 127.20 1.06.50 159.60 60.00 111.40 135.20 162.00 161.80 94.00 175.80 55.40 56.80 144.30 2-3952 GARY & NADINE GRIFFIN 59.32 1023 MERIDIAN ST 2-4030 LEROY THOMAS 115.00 1204 W 8TH ST 2-4200 CLAUDE JAMES BLAKELY 106.10 1618 8TH ST W 2-4720 DAVID & EDITH HENDRIKSE 65.22 .1324 W 14TH ST 2-4740 JUDY ALBRECHT 116.80 1406 W 14TH ST 2-4800 JUDY L TODD 88.20 1400 NORTHGATE AV 2-5160 JACK WARD 48.40 1407 W 14TH ST 2-5170 JII,L RODRIGUEZ 124.60 1401 W14TH ST 2-5790 LINDA SOULE 144.00 1104 W 13TH AV 2-5890 KAY FEIL 92.40 1036 W 15TH AV 2-5900 LISA M HARVEY 111.80 1104 W 15TH AV 2-6030 TOM KRASOWSKI 114.20 1017 W 12TH AV 2-6380 STEVE NONAMAKER 90.20 908 W WASHINGTON DR 2-6660 SUSAN DAVIS 87.80 1101W11THST 2-6670 DAN FRASIER 96.20 1180 W STATE ST ! • 3-24 KIMBERLY KIMITO KINNEY 122.00 2084 JAYTON W DR 3-292 ROD & JENNIFER SHURTZ 222.80 2195 W SNYDER DR 3-396 DONALD & TRICIA DUKART 95.50 841 N TALL PINE PL 4-1406 CHRIS & ROBIN POTTER 185.60 1519 N HAVEN COVE AV 4-1424 SHIRLY THOMPSON 116.80 2774 W SHERYL ST 4-1430 MARY R BARNEY 176.60 2856 W SHERYL ST 4-1704 WAYNE & NORMA ELLIOTT 73.40 2560 W LEONARD ST 4-1742 BRADLEY WESTBERG 178.00 2678 W SHERYL ST 4-1774 GARY GEYER 126.20 2588 W WII.LARD ST 4-1887 HAVEN COVE HOMEOWNERS ASSO 182.00 SPRINKLER -HAVEN COVE 4-2200 LUCREZIA BLAYE 168.80 1702 W SANTA CLARA DR 4-2250 DENNIS RHODES 192.60 1851 W SONOMA DR 5-172 KATHLEEN LANGER 138.32 .3992 W THORN CREEK CT 5-230 MICHAEL HUFFMAN 113.00 3968 W BLUE CREEK DR 5-780 JOHN SUZANNE 126.40 1420 N LITTLE CREEK AV ~ i 20-1486 CHARLES HUFFF 111.40 3552 W TUPELO CT 20-163 8 THOMAS LINK 102.20 1920 INCLINE WY 20-1664 STEVEN MEDLEY 139.80 3761 WOODMONT DR 20-1774 STEPHEN & AMY WESTON 111.80 3732 W STANWICH DR 20-1782 ERIC ROSSMAN 100.40 3820 W WOODMONT DR 20-1848 DWAYNE LINGEL 189.40 2153 TURNBERRY CL. 20-1880 JON D ROHOLT 214.00 2050 INTERLACHEN WY 20-1890 RONALD LUKESH 86.50 1971 INTERLACHEN WAY 20-1984 STEVEN FEASTER 99.50 3777 QUAKER RIDGE DR 20-1988 MICHAELSON TRUST 89.30 3749 QUAKER RIDGE DR 20-2054 FREDRICK C HUTH 191.80 3419 SUGAR CREEK DR 20-2058 WILLIAM L. PATTERSON 215.80 3349 SUGAR CREEK DR 21-34 LARRY C. HOCKEMEYER 191.90 1952 KRISTEN WAY 21-42 TANYA RAMSEY 105.80 2006 KRISTEN WY 21-80 DARIN LOWE 174.20 2402 N LEANN WY 1 t 21-996 DAVID & KRISTEN GOURLEY 2723 W PEBBELSTONE CT 21-1052 MARY R BARNEY 2989 N FIELDSTONE WY 21-1168 DAVID & LAURIE CARLSON 2395 N LEANN WY 21-1174 DAVID TWADDLE 2492 W CHATEAU DR 21-1754 KEVIN W BINGHAM 1851 KRISTEN WY 21-1758 ROBERT B COOK 1840 TODD WY 21-1934 DARICE BEHRENDT 2612 MISTY DR 21-1942 JAMES POOL 2609 REBECCA WY 21-2006 MARK & TAMARA ROSE 1732 N MORELLO AV 21-2068 JEFFRY & PAMELA PUGMIRE 3015WANNST 21-2082 DANIEL & SANDI THIBADEAU 2997 W STEPHANIE CT 21-2134 LARRY VAN SICKLE 2940 W ANN ST 21-2230 LINDA PAGE 2892 W KANDICE CT 21-2602 MARGOT MOONEY 2310 N SWAINSON AV 21-2636 ROBERT & TRACY LUCERO 3041 W BONNER ST 239.40 150.40 124.00 96.40 116.40 123.20 85.40 71.20 85.80 67.20 61.60 49.40 120.60 161.00 75.40 21-2732 RON THIJRBER 215.40 2482 N STONE PL 21-2758 MICHAEL & BRENDA THOMPSON 160.10 2444 N VICTORY WY 21-2918 DAVID & KAREN REYES 117.60 2953 W ELK STREAM 21-3070 KIlVIBERLY DECK 140.20 2921 W JOUST ST 21-3134 JAMES & ELIZABETH 138.00 2910 N STONE AV 21-3296 DWAYNE & VICKI MORRISON 139.60 3037 N HEARTH AV 22-312 STEVEN M CANTRELL 188.20 1750 W CHATEAU DR 22-846 LESLEY A MCNORTON 124.00 2117 W CHATEAU DR 22-926 H. JASON ELLIOTT 132.40 2115 MONACO WAY 22-1032 REN THOMPSON 121.40 2039 N NYBORG WY 22-1290 MICHAEL NIGH 185.20 2070 LASHER COURT 22-1350 GAYLEN & SHANNON COWGER 183.60 1956 W MCGLINCHEY ST 22-1354 RODNEY WILLIAMS 110.00 1908 MONACO WY 22-1420 DUANE DAVENPORT 93.30 1719 W MCGLINCHEY ST 22-1482 LYLE ANDERSON 141.00 1723 SANDALWOOD DR 22-1504 RANDY L SIlVIPSON 127.40 1764 SANDALWOOD DR 22-1574 ROBERT D TALBURT 93.00 1895 W CHATEAU DR 31-142 MARY VANDEVENTER 86.20 1330 YOST CT W 31-176 JOHN OBERBUBOR 54.40 1912 NW 12TH ST 31-432 BRYAN GOOLD 63.00 1497 STOREY AV 31-470 CAY D DONOHOE 164.80 1402 SANDALWOOD DR 31-516 SHARON JARRETT 107.36 1542 STOREY AV 31-538 ROBERT L MILLER 93.12 1521 KINGSWOOD AV 31-608 MITCHAEL WALKER 146.80 1333 NEWPORT DR 31-728 KATHERINE BERTO 115.90 1332 NEWPORT DR. 31-878 PHILIP & LEASA STRICKLIN 101.60 1502 W CHATEAU AV 31-880 DENNIS NICK 151.40 1512 W CHATEAU DR 31-1274 JAMES & BARBARA CALLISON 125.60 2662 W 12TH ST 31-2202 DOUGLAS & PEGGY TOWNE 104.20 2651 NW 12TH ST 31-2236 LINDA PARSONS 110.40 2635 NW 13TH ST 1 , 31-2238 RENEE TIBBS 1310 DARRAH DR. 31-2250 ANOTONIO GARCIA 13 82 DARRAH DR 31-2254 RAYMOND TURNER 1402 DARRAH DR 31-2300 DOUGLAS S HALLOCK 1532 LOWERY ST 31-3018 FORREST F SCHUSTER 2218 NW 14TH ST 31-3022 GARY TIPTON 2240 NW 14TH ST 31-3050 DEBRA FRENCH 1065 W CHATEAU DR 31-3058 DOROTHY L HARBOUR 940 W CHATEAU DR 31-3274 ROBERT HAKES 1100 W NEWPORT CT 31-3394 PHII,IP R CARROL 1080 DELMAR DR 31-3402 LYNN BASURA 2252 MW 11TH AV 31-3420 JULIA COUCH 1012 FAIRWOOD CT 31-3422 TIM ALLEN 1034 FAIRWOOD CT 31-3458 DARRYL HOPKINS 2048 NW 9TH PL 31-3528 JACK TEATER 193 8 NW 11TH AV 133.50 174.50 79.15 93.40 109.30 101.20 117.30 108.92 63.60 126.40 66.60 122.60 54.20 77.80 126.00 32-522 STEPHEN HAVEN 150.60 1843 LAWNDALE DR 32-552 J.R. MCRATH 127.60 1830 LAWNDALE DR 32-666 CHRIS & APRIL HOWELL 114.80 395 CRAMMER DR 32-672 DOUGLAS & KATHLEEN MCVEY 88.00 331 CRAMMER DR 32-830 JOHN G CARMONNE 95.20 482 W WILLOWBROOK DR 32-872 ROGER F. BECKER 133.60 671 TIFFANY DR 32-928 PHILIP BYRNE 142.30 2320 KENMERE DR 32-1168 ANTHONY & PENNY GULBIS 182.00 285 W SPICEWOOD DR 32-1368 THOMAS GRATTON 97.20 382 W WATERBURY DR 33-241 JOHN CHOAT 59.42 1836 N BUENA VISTA AV 33-1828 RONALD & JULIE BELL 66.40 117 E WOODBURY DR 33-2430 TROY SMITH 49.80 2477 N CAPECOD WY 33-7616 BRADLEY MICHAELSON 124.80 128 E EASTBROOK CT 34-496 TIMOTHY LOVE 209.00 2089 N SAPPHIRE PL 34-660 KAYLENE BAUER 86.80 2230 N SAPPHIRE PL i • 34-784 FREDRICK FREE 132.00 1110E CHATEAU AV 34-804 ADAM & KIRSTEN KRAUSE 102.60 988 E CHATEAU DR 34-812 LORRAINE & kARL KAUTZ 111.00 2298 NE 10TH AV 34-820 TECO INVESTMENTS 96.20 973 E BLUE HERON ST 34-886 ALLEN & KELLY DUREN 161.80 1021 E GROUSE DR 34-904 DIANA BLANKENSHIP 125.60 1171 E HUNTER DR 34-910 CALVIN EDWARDS 102.90 1223 E HUNTER DR 34-914 DONALD AMYX 132.00 1281 E HUNTER DR 34-1166 F&M STAFFORD & SWAN 151.80 2428 N BLACK BEAR WY 34-1806 ERMINE DAVIS 171.40 1014 CLAYBOURNE DR 34-1880 SHANNON JOHNSTON 140.20 2062 LARK PL N 34-1888 VICKIE MARCUM 149.20 2132 N LEAK PL 34-1898 REX S EDINGER 115.50 2111 N LARK PL 34-1954 PHILLIl' & DIANE WINGATE 98.40 905 E WILLOWBROOK DR 34-2148 ROBERT A SMITH 62.00 1761 JERICO WY 34-2710 SARA DISHER 1408 E COUGAR CREEK DR 34-2760 RICHARD THURBER 1197 E COUGAR CREEK DR 42-282 .JERRY & DONNA 2567 E APRICOT CT 42-346 AARON & KATHY JONES 2392 APRICOT E DR 42-350 BLACKSTEAD INVESTMENTS 2332 E APRICOT DR 42-468 KYLE HILL 2561 GRAPEWOOD DR E 42-1146 WADE MILLER 2005 OAKCREST DR E 42-1978 DAVID & SHELLEY MORSE 1810 MEADOW WOOD ST E 42-2582 LORRI CHAPMAN 2542 N MEADOWGLEN PL 42-2712 JERRY B. KNAPP 2581 N LAUGHRIDGE AV 47-50 HAUN GROUP, INC. 4132 E DRIFTWOOD DR 48-3210 INTERMOUNTAIN FARMERS 2957 E FAIRVIEW AV 50-12 PAUL SMITH 29 E STATE AV 50-88 JAYNESUE DOWDY 934E 5TH ST 50-204 JERRY HOLLOWAY 416 E STATE AV • 56.30 63.30 178.60 120.00 147.80 75.90 179.00 78.40 142.60 123.10 53.40 563.65 104.00 64.60 88.40 ~: s • 50-218 RANDY & DENISE ZIZZO 47.40 312 E STATE ST 50-1856 SANDRA AVERII.L 35.00 1035 E FAIRVIEW AV 50-1910 GROVER BROWN 65.60 1578 PENRITH N PL 50-2106 RICHARD & PRISCILLA ROBINSON 108.60 1278 N STONEHENGE WY 50-2410 DAVID & CHARLOTTE REED 57.00 1433 N PENRITH AV 50-2444 STEVE & TRACY MCNITT 123.80 1472 N PENRITH AV 50-4008 DARKEN HASKINS 245.60 950 N STONEHENGE WY 50-4506 BETTY JACOBSON 89.40 436 E PINE AV 50-4522 SHELBY UGARRIZA 142.40 412 E PINE ST 51-306 MONIKA LITTLE 99.80 412 E BROADWAY AV 51-314 RICK HORTON 53.00 342 E BROADWAY AV 51-318 JOHN HEATH 56.40 336 E BROADWAY AV 51-354 AUDIO ELECTRONICS 60.80 722E 2ND ST 51-482 RICHARD HURRAY 109.40 319 E IDAHO AV 51-534 MARGARETTE HORTON 99.60 607 E IDAHO AV ~ ~ 51-3020 BOISE BASIN ELECTRIC 124.00 272E 5TH AV 51-3108 ARASH SHARIAT PANAHI 46.40 75KINGSTE 51-3150 GERALD CROWELL 52.40 227 E WILLIAMS ST 51-3330 DOROTHY MATTIVI 129.00 205 E KING ST 51-3370 CINDI ATWOOD 76.40 223E 3RD ST 51-4230 BOB FLATEN 48.40 349 BOWER ST E 68-70 TONY ARES 74.80 2599 WBER RAPIDS PL S 68-102 RENOWN CONSTRUCTION 60.40 1429 E TIlVIE ZONE DR 69-136 HOME ART BUILDERS 46.40 1453 E BLUE TICK ST 69-172 SCOTTSDALE HOMES 46.40 1451 E GRIFFON ST 69-182 HOME ART BUILDERS 53.30 1444 E DOBERMAN ST 69-568 ROGER&SANDRA JUDGE 66.20 1107 E SHEPHERD ST 69-590 MONTGOMERY BAPTISTS 116.20 1384 E BORZOI ST 69-666 K. DWAYNE & LINDA MOORS 128.00 1328 E MASTIFF ST 69-1620 MICHAEL L. BACHMAN 250.80 1836 SE 5TH WY 1 72-210 JON MORRISON 1896 S RIPTIDE AV 74-60 VALERIE ALVES 343 SW 7TH AV 74-80 RICK R BURWELL 513 KEARNEY PL 74-386 AARON HAWLEY 676 FULMER CT 74-426 GLORIA LACY 623 BARRETT ST 74-1084 EDWARD & MADORA NEALE 102 W 1ST ST 74-2336 GARY CROWELL 193 LYNWOOD CL 74-2476 STEPHANIE ATCHISON 1358 W KIlVIRA ST 74-2544 RANDY HART 1159 W KIl~~IRA ST 74-2614 MICHAEL MACKRILL 989 W KIMRA ST 74-2616 NOEL & MARTA PETERSON 971 W KIlVIltA ST 74-2690 MONTEREY HOMES 152 S CRESTMONT DR 74-2822 KENNETH BARB 1421 W CTRESTMONT DR 74-3096 DAVID KOPET 1075 W EGRET DR 74-3238 DEBRA RULE 1134 W GREENHEAD DR • 114.60 136.10 79.70 103.60 102.80 115.40 157.00 82.40 117.40 152.20 95.40 152.40 218.00 96.00 88.00 C~ 74-3334 PATRICK& LISA GRIFFIN 1547 GANDER DR W 74-3356 STEPHEN PAYNE 1311 W GANDER DR • 65.40 47.40 TOTAL # TURNOFFS s~ TOTAL AMOUNT S/7. ~ J Z H Q H Z H 0 W O OG a a a J V Z V H Q LL H H V a a a V z O V cl • ~ ~ 1~ O ~l") O' r N ~O O ~ d'i M' O I~ ~ ~A M N O M I~ o0 N l~ 0~ ~tj ~ ~ ~ 1~. ~ r M ~ 0 0 0 ~ 0 1` r CV '~ ~ O r O r t,n O M C~ N ~ ~ M r 1` ti N CO 1~ 00 M tfl d' N M ~ M ~ N M ~A t~ O (O ~} Ef3 ~ 6F} 6g bg bF} ~} 6F} 6F} ~ 6F} 6F} ~ Ln ~ M 00 00 00 00 ~ d' 00 CO 00 (O M ~A ~ t0 M ~ M d' C~ O O) M r c0 00 N O I~ O~ t.f) Cfl o0 00 1~ ~ t~ c0 O ti ~ d' 00 00 ~ O N ~ O T- N ~- . 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W Ui W N ~ O W OD ~1 ~ IV ~1 ~I :~ W tr CTi IV ~ W O U~ ~ Cfl -~ O C f ti ~ N ~ 11 CO CO O O O ~ W ~ ~ v -s Cfl -~ t31 iD ~I IV 00 ~I W cO fV W t1ti Uti 11 c0 W I~ ~ CO O N ~~ O (31 O ~i .P Cf~ v D m n C z C7 r '~ '~ n D C ~ Z O ~? c r Z ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ C7 G ~ m • v -~ ~ ~ ~ 0 0 ~ ~ n ~ ~ n n ~ C O ~ ~ • • ~c -- v~ NQV - 6 ~ (~iY O,Fr~6AERIDIAN ~~"'~"' November 5, 1996 Mayor Corrie and City Council Members City of Meridian City Hall 33 E. Idaho Avenue Meridian, Idaho 83642 Re: LaPlaya Manor Estates Subdivision Honorable Sirs: When we did the market research before presenting LaPlaya Manor Estates for your approval, it was determined that many retired people wanted small houses on small lots. Therefore, LaPlaya Manor Estates was designed to accommodate tbeFn with a series of single family lots which would be attached on one side with zero lot lines. We made a mistake in the analysis of what the people wanted. Since the first houses have been built, many of the potential buyers are wanting larger houses than the lots will accommodate. They still want small lots, but more expensive houses than we originally determined. Many of them also, want the houses detached from one another. With this additional information obtained from the potential buyers, we are requesting to be allowed to reduce the number of lots, and increase the width of some of them to accommodate these buyers. We propose to do that with a lot li^e adjustment survey in accordance with the attached drawing. We also, request that the following lots in Blocks 2 and 3 be allowed to use zero lot lines without being attached. These would be Lots 26, 27, 28, & 29 in Block 1, Lots 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8 in Block 2, and Lots 4, 5, 6, 7, and 10 in Block 3. The lots we would like to increase in size by the lot line adjustment are Lots 1 thru 16, 52 thru 55, and 32 thru 41, in Block 1. By increasing the size of these lots to allow for single family detached dwellings, we would also, provide a better mix of buildings and curb appeal for a more overall pleasant neighborhood. Job No. 94-283 Page - 1 of 2 LaPlaya Manor Estates r M • There would be no change in the over 55 year requirement or front and rear setbacks. We believe that the increased evaluation of the larger homes that would result from the reductions in density would offset the loss of the three lots, and would still produce nearly the same tax base with fewer people. We would appreciate your speedy action on this matter, and allow us to provide a better product for the future senior citizens of Meridian. Sincerely, W.P. Kirby, Presi nt LaPlaya Manor states c ~~ ~ ~~~ fL2 Charles Watts, Marketing Director LaPlaya Manor Estates WPK/bjh Enclosure Page - 2 of 2 Job No. 94-283 LaPlaya Manor Estates ..T Glenn K. Bennett, P.L.S. President Timothy A. Burgess, P.E. Vice President Civil Survey Consultants, Inc. P.O. Box 39 1530 W. State Street Meridian, Idaho 83680 ~~-,'- .~ ,~., (208)888-4312 Fax 888-0323 October 21, 1996 Gary Smith, P.E. City Engineer City of Meridian 33 E. Idaho Avenue Meridian, ID 83642 Re: Tully Park Design Services Dear Gary: Thank you for considering Civil Survey Consultants to provide professional services required for the design of improvements for Tully Park. Based upon the information received to date I have prepared the following draft design scope of services for review and comment: Design Services: A. Field Surveys 1. Park Site Survey - Perform a field survey as required to establish the existing ground conditions following the rough grading of the site which was performed in September/October of 1996. Field surveys will also locate any existing topographic features necessary to complete the design of the park improvements. 2. Linder Road Design Survey -Perform field surveys as necessary to design improvements along 940 feet of Linder Road adjacent to the park site. A topographic survey will be performed to locate all surface features within the existing right-of--way and/or fence lines. Cross sections will be taken at 50' on center along the alignment. B. Design Prepare a final park development plan showing all features to ultimately be constructed as part of the park improvement project. It is our understanding that the park improvements may be constructed in phases and the final development plan must -allow for phased construction. The final development plan will include complete plans and technical specifications for the following components: ~ ~ Smith October 21, 1996 page 2 of 4 1. Final Site Grading - Prepare a final site grading plan to allow construction of the various ball fields proposed on the 2/23/95 rough grading plan prepared by Pinnacle Engineering, Inc, and 9/15/94 preliminary site plan prepared by Capstone, Inc. All areas which are not a paved surface, or baseball infield will be hydro-seeded with a turf lawn mixture developed for the local climate. 2. Sprinkler System - Design an automatic underground sprinkler system which irrigates the entire park. Pumping facilities for the sprinkler system will be provided by others. The details of the pumping facilities including flows, duration and pressure will be provided by the City of use in designing the sprinkler system. The sprinkler system will begin at the pumping station and shall provide complete coverage of the entire park sod area. The sprinkler system will be zoned such that the imgation of each ball field is on a separate zone. 3. Parking Lot - Design parking facilities as shown on the 9/15/94 preliminary site plan. Parking facilities will include pavement design required for an asphalt surfaced parking lot, curbing as necessary, striping plan, area lighting, and storm water facilities. We are proposing to provide subsurface seepage beds for storm events through a 5-year storm. All other events will be handled by grass lined swales in the landscaping around the parking lot which are generally used as park facilities. All run-off from the parking area will be retained on the park site. An important issue related to the subsurface disposal is digging test holes as soon as .. possible to establish high seasonal groundwater which generally occurs now. 4. Linder Road Improvements -Design half width improvements on the east side of Linder Road which conform to the requirements of the Ada County Highway District. Generally it is anticipated the improvements will include 6" vertical curb and gutter, 7 foot wide sidewalk, and pavement match back between the existing edge of pavement and new lip of gutter. Separate storm drainage facilities will be designed for the Linder Road Improvements. Improvements will begin at the end of the existing curb, gutter and sidewalk and extend north approximately 940 feet to 'the northerly boundary of the park property. These limits include approximately 85 feet of improvements in front of the existing home at the southwest corner of the park site which is not a portion of the park. The actual construction may or may not include this segment depending upon the desire of the City and ACHD. • • Smith October 21, 1996 page 3 of 4 5. Baseball Fields -Provide details of the proposed baseball fields. Details anticipated to be provided include a detail of the field dimensions, detail of a chain link backstop, and details of the dug-outs, and perimeter chain link fencing identifying the limits of each base ball field. Design of individual lighting for each field will be provided. 6. Soccer Field - No special details are anticipated for the proposed soccer field. the final development plan will provide sufficient azea for one field as shown on the preliminary site plan. 7. ~ Basketball Courts -Provide details of the proposed basketball courts as shown on the preliminary site plan. Two playing courts with a concrete playing surface will be designed. The perimeter of the courts will be surrounded with a 12' chain link fence. Details of the basket ball hoops, striping and any special playing surfaces will not be included as part of this design package and will be provided by the Meridian Pazks and Recreation Department. 8. Tennis Courts -Provide details of the proposed tennis courts as shown on the preliminary site plan. Two playing courts with a concrete playing surface will be designed. The perimeter of the courts will be surrounded with a 12' chain link fence. Details of the nets, net support posts, striping and any special playing surfaces will not be included as part of this design package and will be provided by the Meridian Parks and Recreation Department. 9. Rest Room/Maintenance Building - Design a complete rest room maintenance building. The building will generally be 30' wide by 50' long with a 5' wide sidewalk surrounding the building. It is anticipated that the building will include a woman's rest room on one end, a men's rest room on the other end and a maintenance room in the middle of the building. The building will be constructed of concrete block masonry units with a wooden trussed pitched roof. The building will be complete with electrical lighting, heating and ventilation. The building will be designed to be handicap accessible. All fixtures in the building will be specified to be vandal resistant. The building will be connected to both the City water and sewer systems. 10. Pathways - On-site 5' and 8' wide pathways will be provided, separate from the bicycle/pedestrian pathway to be constructed by ITD. These pathways will connect-the pazking lot with major park amenities. A structural pathway from the parking area to the rest room/maintenance building will be provide capable of supporting light vehicle traffic. . , . ~ ! Smith October 21, 1996 page 4 of 4 11. Park Utilities - The park site shall include extension of city potable water and . sewer lines to service the rest room/malntenance building. Water lines will be extended to water fountains to be constructed near each ball field and to the basket ball and tennis court area. Area lighting will be provided along the pathways. 12. Ditch Tiling -The design shall include piping of the existing irrigation ditch which runs along the westerly boundary of the park adjacent to Linder Road. We propose to provide the Design Services as outlined above on a time and materials basis with a not to exceed amount of $ 39,785 without prior approval of the Owner. The above fee estimates are based upon utilizing Taylor Engineering, Inc. for electrical engineering services. We may also need a structural engineer. If one is required their fees should be covered in the above estimate. Based upon your RFP I understand we are to provide the design plans and technical specifications only. The city will provide all bidding documents. The above fee estimates do not include any services during construction of the park. Please review the above draft scope of services and fee estimates. If they are acceptable I will prepare an Agreement for Professional Services for execution by the City. If there area any scope Items you wish to modify please let me know. Again, thank you for considering Civil Survey Consultants for this project. Sincerely, /~~~'~ Tim Burgess, P.E. Vice President