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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1997 01-07MERIDIAN CITYGOUNCIL AGENDA TUESDAY, JANUARY 7,199? - 7:30 P.M. CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING HELD DECEMBER 17, 1996: (APPROVED) 1. TABLED DECEMBER 17, 1996: MOUNTAIN VIEW EQUIPMENT COMPANY: REQUEST HOOK UP TO CITY WATER AT 700 W. OVERLAND ROAD: (APPROVED; ALLOW TO INSTALL FIRE SPRINKLER LINE TO BUILDING AND EXTEND 12" WATER LINE TO WEST BOUNDARY) 2. TABLED DECEMBER 17, 1996: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING FOR HIGHLANDS RANCH SUBDIVISION BY GEM PARK II PARTNERSHIP: (WITHDRAWN) 3. AMENDED FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR NEW/USED R.V. SALES /SERVICE FACILITY BY ZAMZOWS: (APPROVE AMENDED FINDINGS; APPROVE DECISION) 4. FINAL PLAT FOR ASHFORD GREENS SUBDIVISION NO. 2 BY BRIGHTON CORPORATION: (APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS) 5. PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUED FROM DECEMBER 17, 1996: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING TO C-C BY CHERRY PLAZA ASSOCIATES: (APPROVE FINDINGS WITH QNIENDMENTS; CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE AN ORDINANCE) 6. PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUED FROM DECEMBER 17, 1996: REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY/FINAL PLAT FOR FIRST STREET PLAZA BY CHERRY PLAZA ASSOCIATES: (APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS) 7. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A VACATION OF FARMINGTQN ESTATES NO. 2 PLAT AND STREETS BY ED BEWS: (APPROVED; CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE AN ORDINANCE) 8. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A REZONE FROM R-4 TO L-O; PARKING FOR NEW MERIDIAN LIBRARY BY MERIDIAN FREE LIBRARY DISTRICT: (APPROVE FINDINGS WITH AMENDMENT; CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE AN ORDINANCE) 9. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A REZONE FROM R-4 TO C-C FOR AN ANTIQUE, CRAFT AND COLLECTIBLE SHOP BY EUGENE PETERS: (APPROVE FINDINGS WITH AMENDMENT; CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE ORDINANCE] 10. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE LAKE AT CHERRY LANE SUBDIVISION NO. 7 BY STEINER DEVELOPMENT: (CONTINUE PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL JANUARY 21, 1997) 11. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THE LAKE AT CHERRY LANE NO. 7 BY STEINER DEVELOPMENT: (CONTINUE PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL JANUARY 21, 1997) 12. MARTY GOLDSMITH: DISCUSSION OF SALMON RAPIDS NO. 3: (DISCUSSION TO BE HELD ON JANUARY 21, 1997) 13. WATERISEWER/TRASH DELINQUENCIES: (APPROVED) 14. APPROVE BILLS: (APPROVED) 15. DEPARTMENT REPORTS: A. MAYOR CORRIE: 1. PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION APPOINTMENT: (PREPARE LIST OF NAMES B. GARY SMITH, CITY ENGINEER: 1. BID OPENING -PUMP HOUSE FOR WELL NO. 17: (APPROVE IRMINGER INC. FOR $163,017.98) C. ViIALT MGRRGII~, CITY CGUNCILMAN: 1. TRANSPORTATIGN CGMMITTEE MEETING: D. CHARLIE ROUNTREE, CITY COUNCILMAN: 1. PARK RESERVATION FEES: MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL JANUARY 1,_ 1.99? The regular meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order by Mayor Robert D. Corrie at 1:30 P. M. MEMBERS PRESENT: Walt Morrow, Glen Bentley, Charlie Rountree, Ron Tolsma: OTHERS PRESENT: Will Berg, Wayne Crookston, Shari Stiles, Gary Smith, Jim Shearer, Chief Gordon, Boy Scout Troop #112, Bert Brennen, Steve Sweet, Tam Ensley, Terry Leighton, Kent Kampus, Steve Bradbury: Corrie: Council, with your permission before we do the minutes approval far the previous meeting I would like to make a presentation to Jim Shearer. If I might, Jim would you came up here please. Jim has served the City of Meridian quite inaudible} member of our Planning and Zoning Commission, he was well paid for that job he did get a turkey once a year for that. He has done an e~ccellent jab for us and on behalf of the City of Meridian and the City Council I would like to inaudible} far all you have done. It says to Jim Shearer, Planning and Zoning Commissioner presented in appreciation far the contribution inaudible} January 1984 to January of 1991. Your volunteer time and efforts as a public servant inaudible} presented by the Mayor and City Council January 1,1991. Jim once again thank you far all you have done far us. We appreciate everything you have done far us as a City. Also Troop #1l2 Boy Scouts, welcome to the City Council meeting tonight. We are glad to have you and hope that we give you same political science review here and City government. MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING HELD DECEMBER 1l, 1996; Corrie: Council, you had a chance to review the minutes of the previous meeting held December 11, 1996. Are there any corrections or alteration you would like to make? Hearing Wane I will entertain a motion that the minutes be approved as written. Morrow: So moved Rountree: Second Carrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Rountree to approve the minutes of December 1 ?,1996, any further discussion2 All those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #1: TABLED DECEMBER 11, 1996: MQUNTAIN VIE~IV EQUIPMENT COMPANCY: REQUEST HOOK UP TQ CITY UVATER AT l00 DIV. OVERLAND ROAD: Carrie: Mr. Smith? { ..: Meridian Ci#y Council January 1, ~ 997 Page 2 Smith: Mr. Mayor and Council members, I have a letter a memo that I typed out late this afternoon that I would like to distribute to each one of you. After our last Council meeting I did same review of the request by Mountain view Equipment and consequently I wrote a letter or actually I met with one of the owners Tom Nicholsen and discussed the situation, After that discussion I sent a letter to Mr. Nicholsen outlining the items that we discussed and the costs as I envisioned them, I gave a copy of that to 1111111 and do you have a copy of that tonight, that was the December ~~~~' letter. There were some rather big numbers in there as far as water assessment is concerned dollar wise. Subsequent to the writing of that letter I met again with Mr. Nicholsen and also with his partner Randy Stewart and the building contractor Bert Brennen in fact this morning.llve discussed the casts, assessment costs that !had determined earlier. I did some additional research especially with our sister cities, Boise, I was not able to get information from United 11Uater. The people that I needed to talk to were out of the office and didn't return by the end of the day. But I did talk to Nampa, Caldwell and Kung. Also, the building permits that we have been issuing far commercial buildings have nat included an assessment for fire sprinkler service. They have been assessed for domestic water use facilities only. So the contents of this interoffice memo that you now have in your possession basically conclude that and I will dust read the last paragraph. "In retrospect and that is to my December 25 letter, an assessment for strictly fire sprinkler protection is probably not warranted. They have agreed to extend the water main in Overland Road to the west boundary of their property and install at least one fire hydrant along the Overland Road frontage. Along with that, they are currently utilizing an on site well for their domestic water use. I don't know what the amount of water is that they use but Mr. Nicholsen and Mr. Stewart tell me that it is considerable because they do a lot of steam cleaning operations. My own feeling as far as their connection to that to our system far their domestic water is that I would rather not see that happen at this time anyway. 1Ne have enough places far our water to go and I would rather keep that use off of our water system. They also recently installed a new on site disposal system for their sewer. Central District Health has approved that so I see no reason requirement for their connection to the sewer system. It is actually the end of the line sa to speak for the Ten Mile Trunk, it wouldn't go any farther to the west. Everything west of them will drain into the, I think it is called the Purdam Gulch drain. Can I answer any questions? Talsma: vUhat, we went inaudible} same problem we had when we were an 2 ~/ street here a few years back? Smith: I don't recall (inaudible). Tolsma: Smelly water and things like that of a dead end line or would that a blow off system? Smith: There would have to be a blow off installed at the end of the line. It is, on ~ '/ street we had a problem there with there was some kind of an algae in the fire sprinkler (, :..... 4 Meridian City Council January ~, X997 Page 3 pipe that created this anion odor. They didn't have an adequate back flow prevention device an that system and that was one of the problems. The water was able to leak back through the check valve that they had and into our system. That requirement for back flow devices is much more stringent than it was at that time. Tolsma: (Inaudible) Smith: fVo sir, I recall that very clearly. Tolsma: That is the only question I had. Carrie: Mr. Rountree? Rountree: Ida you have a bail park figure of what the cast would be to the city for this installation in terms of inspection and that sort of thing? Smith: IVo I don't, as far as the main line is concerned in overland Road, the line from overland into the building? Rountree; IVa, just the cost if they were allowed to connect to City water far the fire sprinkler, what inspections would be required and what is the cost to the City? Smith: W1Jell the City's involvement would be in the street in overland Raad. They are in the County, !assume that the State will inspect on site plumbing for them. Rountree: So we would just look at the connection? Smith: We would just be looking at the main line installation in the street. I don't recall what their frontage is but it is something like 35a feet maybe is that correct. Sa 354 feet of line would probably be maybe a couple of days at the most of contrac#or~ time to install the water main. In terms of cost to the City lobar costs, I don't know we are probably $3ga to $5Bg ball park guess. Rountree: Thank you Marrow: Mr. Mayor, final question, the fire sprinkler system there was same question at one point in time ar at least at our last meeting whether it was going to be inaudible} in the new addition or retrofit far the existing building. The resolution of that was or is? Smith: I didn't discuss it particularly, I think it is just the new building isn't it's Brennen: I am Berk Brennen the contractor, the portion that is required to be sprinkled is the H-4 occupancy only which is the hazardous parkian which is the existing service [f ,.... t Meridian City Council January 1,1997 Page 4 bay. None of the new is actually required nor is any of the office area required to be sprinkled. Morrow: So the sprinkler requirement is for existing Brennen: For the existing H4 repair garage. Morrvw:lNhere the shop is? Brennen: Correct. Marrow: Thank you Corrie: Counselor? Crookston: Mr. Smith, there is a minimum fee for fire protection service even though they don't use any water isn't there? Smith: Yes there is, it is a monthly flat rate fee depending on the diameter of the fire line? Crookston: And they are aware of that? Smith: Yes Morrow: Une more question Mr. Mayor, is the diameter of the fire line that is going to be installed the service line going to be installed is that being sized in such a manner that future expansion ar should the building need to be sprinkled in the future that line will handle that sprinkling for that site? Smith: Yes, Mr. Brennen says yes. Are there any other questions that you might have of me? Thank you Corrie: Any further comments ar questions from Council? Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I would move that we allow Mr. Nicholson and Mr. Stewart doing business as Mountain View Equipment Company to install a fire sprinkler line to their building under the condition that they dv extend the 1 ~ inch water main to their westerly property line and they reimburse the City the cost of the inspections for that installation. Rountree: Second Carrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Rountree to allow the installation of a fire service line tv the building and extending the 12 inch main an the westerly t ,. Meridian City Council January 1, 199? Page 5 boundary of the property, any further discussion? Hearing none, al! those in favor's Gpposed? MOTIGN CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #2: TABLED DECEMBER 17, 1996: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING FOR HIGHLANDS RANCH SUBDIVISION BY GEM PARK II PARTNERSHIP: Corrie: Council, I think this is more of a house keeping thing here. Morrow: Mr. Mayor, if I might at our last meeting according to my notes and a copy of the minutes the item was to bring this onto the agenda so that we could grant the withdrawal as requested by Gem Park II for Highlands ranch by Gem Park II. That is what we are attempting to do tonight with this item being an the agenda. I would then move that we withdraw the Highlands Ranch Subdivision by Gem Park II from the Gity agenda. Talsma: Second Gorrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Tolsma to withdraw the request far annexation and zoning from further agendas, any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor? Gpposed? MOTIGN GARRIED: All Yea ITEM #3: AMENDED FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR NEW/USED RV SALES/SERVICE FACILITY BY ZAMZOWS: Corrie: All of the members of Council have the amended findings, Morrow. ! do Mr. Mayor, I have read the amended findings and I am in agreement with the amended findings to the extent, in terms of it asks that the whale parking Iot be paved, as I remember our discussion at our last Council meeting we had talked about requiring the approaches and driveways only being paved. The reason for that was is there is an upcoming road construction improvement project to Franklin, East First and Meridian Roads that would impact this parcel of property. So it was my understanding that at least from my perspective we were not going to require pavement and ar landscaping along Meridian, only to be tarn out and redone a year yr 1S months from now. My thought was that, I think it was Mr. Rountree in that conversati'vn mention that it made sense to da the approaches and driveways only and then do a dust abatement or dust control on the remaining portion of the lot. These findings da not reflect that, won't be supportive of these findings for that reason. It seems to me that it makes sense to discuss those things in the findings perhaps grant it to pave the approaches Meridian City Council January 1, ~99`~ Page G and the driveways, use a dust abatement on the road mix portion of the paving, I mean road mix portion of the parking !ot until such time that the improvements are done to Franklin, East First and Meridian Road. And then require the landscaping, the lot paving to be done. Possibly to guarantee that in fact does happen after that road is rebuilt, requiring some sort of band or letter of credit or some sort of contractual obligation on the part of the Zamzows who are the owners that work will in fact get done. Corrie: Any further discussion? Rountree: Mr. Mayor, I agree with what Uljalt said about the paving, I believe that is a good synopsis of what we discussed. I would suggest that we might just amend these findings to include that so we can get on with this. Bentley: Mr. Mayor, I would agree with both the Councilmen on the parking lot issue and amending the findings. Tolsma: I would agree with them, that will make (inaudible). Morrow: Mr. Mayor, if I might I would like to ask the Councilmen's opinion in terms of the requirement of some sort of security or some sort of contractual relationship that guarantees that paving and landscape in fact is lane upon a reasonable time period after the completion of the read way rebuild. Rountree: My recollectipn and !think the minutes will support that the applicant agreed to do that when they presented it to us when that question came up, Sv I think that we could include that in here. Morrow: Uo you fee! comfortable based on that testimony or would you like to see something stronger? Rountree: I think that the testimony ought to be reflected in the amended findings. Marrow: That being the case Mr. Mayor, I would like to move that we approve the findings of fact and conclusions subject to amending them to reflect that the driveways and approaches be paved and that a dust abatement application be lane on an annual basis for as needed for the remaining road mix portion of the Iot. Upon completion the rebuild of Franklin, East First and Meridian loads that the landscaping be installed along the Meridian Road side and that the remainder of the lot at that point in time be paved within six months of the completion of that road, Bentley: Second ~,.. Meridian City Council January ?, 1997 Page 7 Carrie: Madan is seconded, any further discussion? Hearing none, a!l those in favor o the findings of fact and conclusions being approved subject to amendments being discussed? Roll call vote. ROLL CALL VOTE: Marrow -Yea, Bentley -Yea, Rountree -Yea, Tolsma -Yea MOTION CARRIED: All Yea Corrie: Entertain a motion for a decision? Bentley: Mr. Mayor, the Meridian City Council hereby decides that this conditional use permit requested by the applicant far the property described in the application is approved with the conditions set forth in these amended findings of fact and conclusions of law and that the property be required to meet the water and sewer requirements, the fire and life safety codes, the uniform building code and all other ordinances of the City of Meridian including the property that shall be paved. Rountree: Second Carrie: Motion made and seconded on the decision, any further discussion? All those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #4: FINAL PLAT FOR ASHFORD GREENS SUBDIVISION NO. ~ BY BRIGHTON CORPORATION: Corrie: Is there a representative of Ashford Greens here this evening? Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, Bruce Freckleton and I have met with the applicant's representative and we will meet again with the applicant and their representative on Monday morning. Vlle felt one of the main issues was the public versus private road and the gated entries that they were proposing. 1Nhen this first came through in the public hearings they were going to have to be private because of the roadway section #hey were proposing with only I believe Z9 feet of pavement. ACHD has since agreed to accept that road as a public road and because it was a little bit confusing during the process we would like your thoughts on whether it was our intent that they be private roads with the gated entries ar that with the new information we have from Ada County Highway District you would accept that as a public street and we could da away with the gated entries there. The Fire department and the Police department have both expressed some concern about the gated entries in that subdivision. Marrow: Mr. Mayor, to answer your question from my perspective, the entire project from the very beginning and all of its representations and the only reason far the ~~. Meridian City Council January 1, X991 Page 8 acceptance of the private road or the project was because of the private road concept and the gates that made it because it is less in width than a normal road the gates kept the general public out and kept the confusion out. Now basically our fire department and police department if they are having a problem with the concept need to go to the east side of the valley to Boise and see all of the gated communities and how those gates and things are handled. It is a coming phenomena that they are going to have to learn how to deal with it. There are solutions to that problem and widely used solutions not only in this valley but in several other areas within the Western US. Sv from my perspective if we are going to have a narrower road ten it needs to be done in such a manner that we discourage a lot of traffic use on that road and that needs to be a private road with a gate. That is the policy or the concept that I accep#ed when !voted to approve of the presentation made by the Brighton folk for this parcel. If the road is going to be public and going to be sub-standard in with then l will change my position in terms of my thinking about the approval of that project. Rountree: Shari, did you indicate that Brighton wants to pursue this or this is a staff comment about private versus public? Stiles: it is really a staff comment but it did come up through the public hearings that when Mike Wardle made his presentations he indicated that if Ada County Highway District would accept the streets as public then they had no problem with dedicating those as public streets. Rountree: But as approved and the concept that we have heard as a private community private gated community in respect to that approval !agree with Walt. If we are going to change that concept we may very well be back here looking at a new subdivision So I guess I would support that it stay as it is and that ACRD not even be requested to accept awnersh i p. Corrie: Shari, was that the primary objections that they had of any of the comments you made was that the major one? Stiles: I don't know that they even objected to that, but they would like to meet with us to go aver, I think we have five pages of comments there and hash out those details. Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I would move that we approve the final plat for Ashford Greens Subdivision No. 2 by Brighton Corporation subject to the original conditions by which it was approved and subject to the staff working out the staff comments with the Brighton Corporation folk and that if there is any deviation from those staff comments that it reappear before the City Council for a public hearing. Rountree: Second Meridian City Council January ~, X997 Page 9 Carrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Rountree, to approve the final plat subject to the conditions as stated in the motion, any further discussion? A!I those in favor? apposed? M~TI~N CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #5: PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUED FROM DECEMBER 17, 1996: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING TO C-C BY CHERRY PLAZA ASSOCIATES: Corrie: At this time I will apes the public hearing and invite the representative from Cherry Plaza Associates to come forward. Steve Sweet, 4D5 S. 8th Street, Boise, was sworn by the City Attorney. Sweet: Mayor and members of the Cauncil, we are following up on a plat that we originally brought before the City Council on March 5, 199 where we talked about a resubdivision of the Cherry Plaza property at First and Meridian and Fairview, pardon me. The Council endorsed a resubdivision which proceeded an May 3rd, and was consummated on May 3`d, the site was resubdivided. With the resubdivision, Albertson's has purchased a parcel. t am before you tonight representing Cherry Plaza Associates and Albertson's in this request. We have proceeded with the application far annexation and zoning which we have here befare you tonight, staff has made recommendations of conditions of approval, findings of fact and conclusions of law. have handed to the Mayor and City Attorney a copy of some house keeping items we would like to see made to the annexation and zoning findings of fact and conclusions. The items which there are a number of items marked, staff has received a copy of this I believe previously, What we would like to bring to the attention of the Cauncil is that the Highway District since we have been through this process have come up with final conditions. We would like to see on page 6, condition 1 g where the Highway District has submitted draft conditions that the Highway District has submitted final conditions and we would like to see the appropriate portions of the Highway Districts final conditions incorporated in the findings of fact and conclusions of law. Pardon me Walt that is the correspondence I gave to Council it is dated 1 ~-~~'. Another item we would like far clarification is an item ~ 6, page 13, states that all ditches, canals and waterways should be tiled and we would like to go an the record that we understand this excepts the Five Mile Drain which is shown as a waterway to be left open in the City of Meridian. Mlle are operating under the impression that waterway will not be tiled. There are a couple of other minor paints an here of what we would like to do, is request the City Cauncil to direct the City Attorney to Iook at our request and make the appropriate changes to these conditions to reflect what we believe are the true conditions. With that we would also request Cauncil approve the annexation and zoning far this 1 ~.8 acre parcel. I would be pleased to stand for questions. Meridian City Council January 7,1991 Page 10 Bentley: Mr. Mayor, Steve you and I spoke out on the site concerning reconfiguring the parking Iot, is that going to be taken care af? Sweet: Yes it is, befivre Planning and zoning we have presented a number of changes we would make to the site, We are looking at an entryway, I can show you the overhead that was introduced and in the City record. Actually that is modified to some extent. 1~11hat we will be doing, the primary concern as I understand it is that at First Street we have quite a bit of confusion with the traffic trying to leave the site at the stop light. Vlle have talked to the Highway District about reconfiguring the light sequence, Uve are working with staff an extending an island in to minimize the conflict that is occurring at that intersection. I think staff may be able to talk to that. Gur intention is ta, while this site is under parked, we acknowledge that we do not want to lase any more site, any more parking areas. The Highway District has requested a 12 foot strip off of the front, we are working toward reconfiguring our parking and keeping the same number of parking spaces but also Councilman Bentley's concern about the traffic is revising that area and putting in parking islands and turn restriction islands. Carrie: Any further questions of Council? Sweet: In conclusion we request your favorable motion and (inaudible) thank you. Corrie: Is there anyone else from the public that would like to enter testimony on this Cherry Plaza annexation and zoning? Hearing Wane, Council, discussion ar questions? Hearing none I will close the public hearing. Morrow: Mr. Mayor, in light of the issues that Mr. Sweet brought up with respect to amending the findings of fact and conclusions, i guess my question would be is, I think those are small enough that we could da them just request the attorney to, from my perspective amend the current findings of fact and conclusions and allow them to proceed forward. I don't have a problem with that I would like to hear discussion from the other guys. Rountree: I would just like to get some assurance from staff that their issues have been addressed. Marrow: I agree with that. Shari and Gary, your input an this project with respect to all issues, the findings, the staff recommendations? Smith: I don't think we have any concerns as long as the applicant is willing to abide by the staff recommendations and I believe they are. Bentley: Mr. Mayor, I have a question far Shari, since ACHD has changed their approach to what they need to do, does this affect your landscaping plans? ~. . f Meridian City Council January 1, 1991 Page 1 ~ Stiles: I haven't seen any landscaping plans, I don't know what they are proposing to do. That was one of my comments is that they were to submit detailed landscaping plans prior to signature on the plat. Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I would move that we approve the findings of fact and conclusions of law far the annexation and zoning to C-G by Cherry Plaza Associates subject to the amendments that we have discussed tonight and subject to meeting all of staff conditions. Rountree: Second Carrie; Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Rountree that we approve the findings of fact and conclusions of law as amended subject to all the amendments and the conditions of staff, any further discussion? Hearing Wane, roll call vote. ROLL CALL VOTE: Marrow -Yea, Bentley -Yea, Rountree -Yea, Talsma -Yea MOTION CARRIED: All Yea Marrow; Mr. Mayor, I would move we instruct the City Attorney to prepare and annexation ordinance for Cherry Plaza and Associates. Rountree; Second Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Rountree to instruct the City Attorney to draw up an annexation ordinance, any further discussion? All those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: Ail Yea ITEM #6: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY/FINAL LAT FOR FIRST STREET PLAZA BY CHERRY PLAZA ASSOCIATES: Corrie: I will open the public hearing at this time and invite the representative of the Cherry Plaza Associates. Steve Sweet, 445 S. 8t" Street, Boise, was sworn by the City Attorney. Sweet: Mayor and members of the Council, same project. vlle have been through the resubdivision that staff has put out a letter dated September 11, 1996 with conditions for the preliminary and final plat. Conditions 1 through 10, item 16 on the conditions was respond in writing to each of the comments contained in the memorandum and submit to the City. That letter was submitted an October l that Ms. Shari Stiles where we respond to each of the ten conditions. One of the canditians that was placed was a {~,.. f Meridian C ity Counci l January ~, X991 Page ~2 landscape plan. we have been working with the Highway Dis#rict to decide how much ground we are going to have to work with on landscaping. UVe have not done a landscaping plan. We intend to submit one far staff review and comment and approval prior to requesting the City Engineer to sign the final plat. In this letter we have just again for house keeping purposes we have requested that the landscaping meet staff review and approval. That we not necessarily meet the current standards and that the shopping center was built prior to the standards coming into effect, we will put as much landscaping in as we can fit, v11e would like to keep the current number of car parks in there, perhaps be a little more efficient in our design of the parking area. Landscape areas which are nvt going to be needed far parking or control of parking through travel way. The other request that we are making is that we are asking for a variance in our parking count. we don't presently meet the existing ordinance although we did lawfully erect the shopping center prior to the ordinance and we are looking to maintain the same number of parking places on site. Ilvith those criteria that we have some flexibility in landscaping and we have some flexibility in parking. vUe are prepared to continue to work with staff and develop a landscaping plan which would enhance the City's gateway. I would be happy to answer any. questions that you may have if you would like any more specifics. In conclusion we would request a motion far the approval of the preliminary and final plat for First Street Playa plat. Thank you. Corrie: Is there anyone else from the public that would like to enter testimony on this preliminary and fins! plat? Council, discussion or questions of staff? Rountree: Question for staff, in your meetings with the applicant, have your issues been resolved with the exception of the landscaping, Shari and Gary? Stiles: Councilman Rountree, Mayor and Council, I believe we have worked an the majority of the issues. My main concern is the landscaping and I also have a question abou# the additional piece that is being annexed into the City that whether Council is proposing that the variance for the parking include they be able to build additional structures on that site and still not meet the parking requirements. Morrow: Is that a question for all of us? Stiles: Yes Morrow: Mr. Mayor, from my perspective the existing parking and existing shopping center were built to the standards that applied at that time. We are annexing that ground knowing that there could be nothing reasonably lane about the parking requirements. In my mind we need to live with that. I do think that we need to take care of the landscaping issues and make sure that they reflect a nice looking shopping center and it is consistent with what we are asking along the Fairview and Cherry Lane corridor. With respect to new property that might be added to the site then in my mind if there is nothing been built on it and it is being added to the site then it complies with 4, Meridian City Cauncil January 1, X997 Page ~3 the current ordinances and current requirements that are in effect today because they have access to those and they know what they are. Sa they can plan their buildings and parking Iots based on those ordinances that are in effect today. Stiles: Thank you Rountree: I concur Bentley: I concur Currie: Any further discussion, Cauncil questions? Hearing Wane l will close the public hearing. Morrow. Mr. Mayor, I would move that we approve the preliminary and final plat for First Street Plaza by Cherry Plaza Associates subject to resolution of staff conditions specifically concerning landscaping and parking issues. Rountree: Second Currie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Rountree to approve the preliminary and final plat subject to conditions stated in the motion, any further discussion? Hearing Wane, all those in favor? Gpposed? MGTIGN CARRIED: All Yea (END OF TAPE) ITEM #7: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A VACATION OF FARMINGTON ESTATES NO. 2 PLAT AND STREETS BY ED BEWS: Currie: I believe this is also a house keeping thing Council too. You all have that in front of you. Any questions or discussions? Is there any representative from the Farmington Estates Na. 2 here this evening? Anybody from the public that would like to enter testimony on this subject? Hearing none I will close this public hearing. Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I would move that, Caunci! advises me we da not have to have findings, sa I would move that we grant the vacation of Farmington Estates No. 2 by Ed Bews. Bentley: Second Currie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Bentley that we approve the request for vacation of Farmington Estates No. ~ plats and streets, any further discussivn'~ Hearing Wane, all those in favor? Gpposed? Meridian City Council January ?, 1997 Page 1~ MOTION CARRIED: All Yea Crookston: Mr. Mayan, we do need an ardinance an this. Marrow: Mr. Mayor, I would move that we instruct the City Attorney to draw an ordinance far the Vacation of Farmington Estates Na. 2 plat and streets by Ed Bews. Bentley: Second Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Marrow, second by Bentley to have the attorney draw up an ardinance for the vacation of Farmington Estates No. ~ plat and streets, any further discussion? All those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #8: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A REZONE FROM R-4 TO L-O; PARKING FOR NEW MERIDIAN LIBRARY BY MERIDIAN FREE LIBRARY DISTRICT: Corrie: I would invite a memberfrom the Library to came forward. Tom Ensley,1191 Main Street, Boise, was sworn by the City Attorney. Easley: 1Ne are requesting as noted a zone change an a piece of property. You are all perhaps familiar with the new library that is under construction East of Linder Road and East of 13~~'. The property on Cherry Lane existing Library is sittin on about ~.~ acres g in the midst of a residential area. You entertained and approved a rezone change on this I think it was last Fall of 199G ar 1995. The existing library facility as I said is under construction due to be completed in another month or two. There are two drive ways off of Cherry Lane that surround the inaudible} with existing parking an the north and south of the building. The library district is looking at purchasing additional parking area. Of course which is our request tonight. Apiece of property that is just under a'/ acre, actually it is 3.9 acres. It abuts to the East of the existing library property. There are three inaudible} to the East and one to the north. The property is L-shaped as you can see Leisure Lane is a private lane is to the east of this property, V11e are not gong to access onto Leisure Lane at all. Vllhat we are looking at is providing ~1 additional parking places one of which is a handicapped parking. It will access off of this East drive way and it will be landscaped around the perimeter. The cedar fence then matches the fence that will be around the library property fence. It will be lit, it will be inaudible} grassed with trees around as you can see around the perimeter. Then off the existing driveway a grassed area that will accommodate both the an site drainage and will serve as a garden area ar a green area far the library people. Sa we are requesting that you approve this zone change. ~' 4+ Meridian City Council January 1, X997 Page 1~ Carrie: Council, any questions? Bentley: Mr. Mayor, on the short piece of grass that you have that runs into Leisure Lane, what do you propose tv data keep vehicles to drive through there? Easley: That will be fenced, there will be no access through the fence. Bentley: And you lighting you are going to cantrol~ Ensley: Yes, the same fighting that we are using an the library parking? Bentley: Is your roof finished yet? Ensley; Almost Corrie: Thank you very much, is there anyone else from the public that would like to enter testimony? Terry Leighton,l8~ 1 Leisure Lane, Meridian, was sworn by the City Attorney. Leighton; I have a few concerns and I would just like to go on record and maybe a recommendation. My first one would be possibly tv have the Library District consider looking into possibly a couple of gates right here. I have concerns about that being so isolated people parking back there and getting into trouble. I am about ready to have the police came out because of people screwing around at the back of the library back there. That is one of my concerns, another one l would dust like to ga an record as to make sure the drainage would ga into this controlled area and not go into where my drain field is that I dust had approved in the last year by Central District Health. I dust also want to go an record to say that it would be controlled like Mr. Ensley said as far as no access to Leisure Lane because that would be a Iot of traffic right by my master bedroom. I had one other note here, l have a question as far as the fencing. I understand they have tv have a six foot fence to match around the library, but yet as far as the City zoning requirements and up to roads, once they get within the setbacks you have to be down a three foot high sa l would like to have that answer an haw that is going to be addressed and whether they are going to keep that within that distance or they are going to drop it dawn to 3 foot or what that is going to be. I thank you for your time. Carrie: Anybody else from the public that would like to enter testimony at this time? Ensley: Let's see, the issue of the fence will be constructed strictly according to City ordinance requirements as far as height and of course we do want it to match what is going on, what is happening around the rest of the property. The other issue was the, the parking lot will be fully designed to handle, again according to City ordinance, will Meridian City Council January 7, 1997 Page 16 be designed to handle al! on site parking. There will be no run off. l have forgotten the other question. Tolsma: He was wondering about controlled access back there after hours, (inaudible}. Ensley: No, it is open at this point. Rountree: We talked about that in the original hearing (inaudible) Chief had some problems with that. Morrow: (Inaudible) Tolsma: The other issue is that fence that he had on there. If they run back out to the set back requirements you are going to end up with a three foot fence (inaudible). Bentley: I have a question far Gary on this fence, seeing that Leisure Lane is privately owned and not in the City does the fence requirement apply as far as the heigh# and setback? Smith: Councilman Bentley, as far as the requirements, it is in the City, it is a private road way that is true. The main thing that we look at on these fences is that we don't impede vision from the traveling public or from people backing out onto a roadway so that they can see, we do have in places in the City where a B foot fence has been constructed adjacent to a roadway but the access to that roadway is restricted from the lots. So it is basically a corridor fencing. There is no access from the lots onto the roadway. Ul~hen we get to an intersection street off of that corridor road then we require that the fence be reduced in height to comply with our ordinance. That is on a public road. Now, I don't knave what the set back requirements have been in that subdivision. Property lines ga to the center of the street. So if you are talking about a setback from a property line I am not sure where that is. I don't even knave haw buildings permits were issued out there. It is an illegal subdivision and has been since it began. But that is neither here nor there. Bentley: But if the whale purpose of the fence in this issue is to keep people out of there I don't think a three foot high fence is going to da them any good. Smith: It is not going to keep pedestrian traffic out of there no. But I think you have to be careful as to the location of that fence concerning Mr. Leighton's property adjacent to it. I don't knowwhere his driveway is, whether it is on that side of his residence or on the other side, but he has to be able to see out of there when he comes out onto Leisure Lane. If you are looking at access restriction only maybe a solid wood fence isn't the type of fence that you want to build. Maybe you need to consider some type of open fence that you can see through, I don't knave. There is going to be landscaping in there also ~. Meridian City Council January 1, X997 Page 17 Morrow: Question, nary, how wide is Leisure Lane currently, da we knew? Smith: I don't recall what the easement width is on it Councilman Morrow, I just don't recall. It might be 4D feet wide, ~0 foot on each side of the centerline. Morrow. What keeps this from becoming a public street ultimately? Is it not (inaudible) Smith: vUell I don't think anybody wants it. As far as the Highway District is concerned they wouldn't take it as a public street without significant improvement. Morrow: ~f course that improvement would have to be either done through an LID far the property owners? Smith: Yes Morrow: The point of my question was going to be is if it is going to be improved to a public street at some point in the future that may very well mean that the fence gets moved back and forth anyhow if we allow the fence to came out to the I guess the setback line if you can determine where the setback line is. It seems to me like the dilemma here is do you approve the fence at a lesser height because of the site issue or do you move the fence back and allow it to be at the six foot height and if you move it back at what point do you move it back from? Smith: I think Councilman Morrow that from my standpoint it would be better to move the fence back. Now, howfar you move it back I don't know, !don't know haw long that finger of property is, haw deep that finger of property is. Ensley: It is 95 feet. Smith: 95 feet, typically in platted subdivision areas the fences are located no more than 2g feet or na closer than 2g feet far right of line far the street which is 25 feet from the center of the road. That is in a platted subdivision. So, from the center of the road is 45 feet back to fence, a 5 foot fence. I don't know in this case it would have to be back that far. I am not, I am just not familiar with what is adjacent to it. Morrow: Let me ask you this, is this maybe an issue that, l don't want to get hung up an this issue, is this maybe an issue that could be dealt with at the staff level and make that determination after doing some on site looking and meeting with Mr. Leighton and getting some input from him and maybe walking the parcels of property and making the determination where it ought to go? Smith: Yes sir. Meridian City Cauncil January 7, X991 Page 1S Corrie: Would that meet with your approval? Ensley: Yes, I think we are flexible. Leighton: (Inaudible) I just was wondering if there is going to be any more addressed about the gates, it kind of just got stopped as far as (inaudible). Corrie: Gates, that was one of your questions. Ensley: Again as I say we are fairly flexible, I think they would just assume not have gates because they just assume not have public access back there. But again we are, whatever the City is going to require. Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I believe his question was with respect to gates an the entrance to the parking lots sa people couldn't gain access to the parking lot after hours if I understood Mr. Leighton's questions. Leighton: (Inaudible) Ensley: i think they would rather not, that would not be very desirable for someone to have to go out and open and close gates that wouldn't be a normal operation and it would be somewhat of a hardship for them to have to control gates on their awn property. Morrow: Mr. Mayor, Chief Gordon, would you refresh my memory and the Council's memory, you testified in the origins! hearings on this proposal far the main building concerning the gates, gating off the area around so there wouldn't be after hours access. Yau were apposed to the gating off, could you refresh my memory in terms of the reasons for that please?. Gordon: Just that the access far the patrol cars would be limited also. V1~e would have to, the officers would have to leave their cars to go back and check the area, Marrow: Thank you Corrie: Any further testimony from the public? Council any further questions, concerns, dialogue? !will close the public hearing at this time, Cauncil there are findings of fact and conclusions with this !believe, Morrow: Mr. Mayor, ! have a question far the Counselor, the issue concerning the fence and what we talked about earlier, a solution to the problem is not in the findings of fact as prepared for us ~inaudibie}. Crookston: That is correct. (~ Meridian Gity Gouncil January x,1997 Page 19 Morrow: Haw do we move to approve the findings of fact as written and insert then, can we do that as a simple amendment? Crookston: Yes you can. Marrow: Mr. Mayor, if I might, I would like to move that we approve and adopt the findings of fact and conclusions of law as prepared for P & Z with the amendment stipulating that the fence that borders Leisure Lane be negotiated between the Gity staff and Mr. Ensley from Architects Inc. and Mr. Leighton the adjacent property owner and that the fence group do an on site resolution of that problem. Bentley: Second Gorrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Bentley that we approve the findings of fact and conclusions of law as prepared by Planning and Zoning Commission with the amendments as stated, any further discussion? Roll call vote. RILL GALL VOTE: Morrow -Yea, Bentley -Yea, Rountree -Yea, Tolsma -Yea M~TI~N CARRIED: All Yea Corrie: The decision? Morrow: Mr. Mayor, the City Council of the Gity of Meridian approves this rezone request by the applicant for the property described in the application with the conditions se# forth in the findings of fact and conclusions of law as amended. And that the property be required to meet the water and sewer requirements, the fire and life safety codes, uniform building code and other ordinances of the City of Meridian including that all parking areas shall be paved and the fence ordinance shall be met as per the adopting motion. Bentley: Second Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Bentley, to approve the decision as per the adopted motion, any further discussion, all those in favor? apposed? MOTI ~ N GARRI E D: All Yea Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I would move that we authorize the Gity Attorney to draw up an ordinance for the rezone from R-4 to L-G for the new Meridian library by the Meridian Free Library District. Rountree: Second Meridian City Council January 1, ~g91 Page ~0 Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Marrow, second by Mr. Rountree to have the City Attorney draw up the ordinance, any further discussion? All those in favors apposed'? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #9: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A REZONE FROM R-4 TO C-C FOR AN ANTIQUE, CRAFT AND COLLECTIBLE SHOP BY EUGENE PETERS: Corrie: At this time I will open the public hearing and invite the representative from the Antique, craft and collectible shop. Eugene Peters,13~3 N. Meridian Street, Meridian, was sworn by the City Attorney. Peters: Mr. Mayor and Councilmen, upon meeting on November 8t" with the Planning and Zoning Commission we have agreed to and are in the process of drawing up plans right as we speak, detailed plans in regard to the parking in the back of this property. Uve have agreed to do our best to comply with the fighting and so on. As I get these plans drawn up I will submit them to Shari in the office to where we can make sure they are approved. Because of the time of the year of course we haven't stepped forward and gotten very far on this. It has been under snow and everything else but we met with Ada Asphalt in regard to measuring and doing things like that as far as haw we would pave it. I plan on getting an engineer in there to come up with or help us agree an a design for the drainage and to make sure it drains on our own property. ~As far as lighting goes, I think I knowwhat I have to do there and I will make sure that with going through Shari again there. I think I just have to put a small light in the back so it doesn't interfere with the neighbors. In regard to one of the Council or Planning and Zoning Commissioners had a concern about turning around. I have measured all of that out and like ! say I don't have the drawing exactly together yet but there wilt be plenty of turn around room back there once I move that fence forward. The alley way is now ~ 5 feet wide and they have requested going 1~ feet wide with paving. Then where my property starts I am going to push that fence to the east to where we will have a 44 ar 45 foot area in the back. It will be very similar parking arrangement as the All State Insurance company up the street. They have their ful! back yard paved. This, you have to come in past one of our other neighbors to get to it but there will still be roam to get in and turn a car around rather easy and go back out. It would sure be nice if the City would pave that alley forme. Anyway, that is kind of where it stands at this time. Corrie: Council, any questions? Thank you, anyone else from the public that would like to enter testimony on this project Kent Kampuson, ~ 304 V11. First Street, Meridian, was sworn by the City Attorney. Meridian City Council January 7, X991 Page ~ 1 Kampuson: I just received the paper in the mail that said they were wanting to rezone that. I own the house that is across the alley on the corner there. My main concern was, we bought our house there in a residential district and you drive down East First Street now and all of those houses have turned into businesses and stuff. IlUhat is it going to da to my property that !bought to be a residential house that gradually now all of these an Meridian Street get turned into businesses and paved and my alley gets paved. Right now it is a very quiet street, it is basically where it is closed aft there with the school we have very little traffic. My kids can ride their bikes and stuff. Uvhat is going to happen when we start rezoning and getting businesses all over across the alley from my house there, what is that going to do to that. I just wanted to say something about it. And wondered if that was really something, it is not something that I see as a desirable thing in the subdivision that I belong in. I just would ask that Council would consider that as they consider this rezoning change. Corrie: Questions of Council? I have one question, you say you just got the notice? Kampuson: We received it here a couple of weeks ago. Carrie: All right, thank you, anyone else from the public that would like to issue testimony at this time? Peters: I certainly understand my neighbors concern on that. This particular business, haw do I put it, I don't anticipate it to be something like an Albertson's. This is something that kind of is going from a hobby to a business. It is something that isn't going to draw your everyday shopper just stopping there for any particular reason. This will be something that you want get everyone off the street in other words that is interested in stopping at this particular type of business. At that point too, or also we have parking in the front, the only reason that Planning and Zoning wanted me to pave the back part was for additional parking. This street is eventually as everyone knows is going to run south. I don't know when that is going to happen, it is going to run south one way. Many of the area residents are already zoned commercial. tither than that certainly, that is just my view point on that. I certain understand neighbors, I am a neighbor that loves a quiet neighborhood myself. I think though in all honesty paving that alley will improve that alley more than da harm to it because that alley is kind of a mess inaudible}. I really don't know haw much traffic we will get in that alley but anyway, thank you. Morrow: Mr. Mayor, if I might comment to Mr. Peters with respect to the one way grid system that you are referring to. That study is going on this fiscal year with ACHD, I think the contract if very close to or has been let to do that study. So we should see some results of that by mid-summer or late summer sa that process is an on going process. Mr. Mayor, I also have a hypothetical question for Gary, trying to be sensitive to the comments here is there any reason that these properties need to access the alley, paving the alley makes same goad sense but do these properties that are along f Meridian City Council January 7, 1997 Page 2~ there need to have access to the alley so that cars drive up and down the alley. If the parking behind this building is intended for additional parking can it not enter and exit by the front entry way and not have access to the alley? Smith: Shari, mentioned, Councilman Marrow, Mayor and Council, Shari mentioned that was a Highway District requirement, not City of Meridian's. The properties on East First Street that have a commercial use enter and exit off of East First Street. But there isn't an alley there. Marrow: Let me ask the question from a different standpoint, there is an alley there but we have historically where hasn't been an alley we have had a requirement for landscaping and fencing and stuff like that to separate residential from commercial areas. Haw does that apply in this case where #here is an alley present? ~l1lhat serves as the buffer to the residential uses, the obviously the stuff that is to the west side of the alley is going to remain residential. The neighbor makes a goad point, how do we protect his property value in terms of a buffer zone where there is an alley involved? Smith: I think the buffer zone, Shari probably should speak to this but I think the buffer zone is mare intended as a to be located an the property line. That would shield activity on the property from adjoining property. 1Nhether it would be an alley which is a public right of way, platted public right of way, or a street which is a platted, public right of way, I think the buffering is still a property line situation. That alley, you really can't and obviously the improvement of the alley is going to increase the use of the alley. But it is a public right of way, it is not restricted. If the Highway District is saying this is a requirement from their standpoint because !guess they are envisioning this is going to be an access to this parking area, I am not familiar with the parking plan if there is one that has been submitted. So I don't know what it looks like as far as access to Meridian Street is concerned. Morrow: Gould I have Shari's comments on the same issue? Stiles: Councilman Morrow, you are asking about the buffering far the adjacent residential property? Morrow: Yes, if you are going to put, nary raises a good point, if you are going to put landscape buffering as per our ordinance on the applicant's property then if you are doing that all the way across, that would preclude access to the alley would it not' Stiles: If they were doing that far the full length of the property. There is an existing access from the alley now? Peters: There is at this time, the fence is jogged back there to where you can park an RV a long RV and I do have a truck back there part of the time. But that is all going to get pushed forward. If there was a buffer put in other than, of any kind now of course Meridian City Council January 1,1997 Page 23 then wouldn't be able to use that as a parking area. If it was to stay on our property, take it what you mean is like a berm or fence or a raw of trees or whatever then of course it wouldn't be accessible. As far as the alley goes, other than myself I do see other vehicles in there including City of course garbage and patrol now and again we see ga through. Not a whole lot of use at the moment. Morrow: Well that is what it is used for (inaudible) Stiles: The only reason I can think that Ada County Highway District made that requirement is that they visited the site and saw that there was an access there and expected that access would continue to be used. Morrow: Let me ask the question in this manner then. If we are going to follow our ordinances and have that required buffering there which is typically a landscape and or fence or both then there would be no access from this property to that alley way is that correct? Stiles: I don't think that is necessarily true because in the past there have been planting strips that you have to have access to the property to make it work. If they don't need that access to make this work I don't see any reason why they would even need to pave the alley at all if they don't need it to make the project work. But you can't expect somebody that needs to use that access to have any planting strip across the access. Morrow: Then how da we comply with our ordinance as to have a buffer between residential and commercial uses'? Stiles: It would be difficult in that particular area. I haven't been out and looked at the site except far Meridian Raad. I haven't gone dawn the alley. Peters: Mr. Mayor, I can answer that perhaps. All of the surrounding property is now fenced with a B foot fence, everyone has woad fence in that area, including my neighbor in the back, neighbors directly to the back of us. Morrow: I think Mr. Peters we are talking about theoretically here how to solve the problem long term for other properties. Maybe a solution is self evident when the road becomes one way and one direction. Then maybe there is na need for access to the alleyway by any property that might have commercial property. Therefore we can buffer and protect property owners to the west the full length by not having any access to that alley way. My concern is that the neighborhood allow or have a chance to be a neighborhood. Thank you Mr. Mayor. Corrie: Any further testimony? Marrow: Mr. Mayor, I think Mr. Smith has a point that he wants to bring up. Meridian City Council January 1,1997 P age ~4 Smith: Mr. Mayor and Council members, I just wanted to make a clarification an something that was said by the applicant earlier concerning the future of Meridian Street. There is an RFP out, request for proposal from the Ada County Highway District at this time fvr an engineering study of a couplet through Meridian of which Meridian Street would be one leg. There has been na determination how that is going to happen. Morrow: That was the point that I was making earlier too that proposal is in this budget year for ACHD for the study only. (Inaudible) Corrie: Thank you Gary, any more questions from Council? Hearing none I will close the public hearing. We have findings of fact and conclusions as prepared for Planing and Zoning for your consideration. Morrow; Mr. Mayor, I think for point of discussion, I don't have any problems with the findings of fact and conclusions as they are written, I would like to see us maintain the buffer zone slang the property line and the fence and no access to the alley way. If that is supported by the other Councilmen then I would offer a motion to approve the findings of fact and conclusions as prepared for us by P & z with the amendment that staff and the applicant work out the landscape buffering and fencing as it relates to the a I I ey way. Bentley: Mr. Mayor Rountree: is that for Discussion? Morrow: That is for discussion. Carrie: Is that a motion? Marrow: It is not a motion per say, it is for discussion. Corrie: I too fail, if there is no need for having that access I can't see following their requirement because I too feel the gentleman needs to have as much buffering as he can. I think if we starting paving that alley we are just going to increase the traffic on it, Rountree: Page ~ of the findings, item 10 actually specifies that the applicant shall meet our ordinances including landscape requirements. Which is my understanding would include the buffering requirement, So if we just want to restate that and indicate that it will be worked out with the staff, just an emphasis area I guess to be sensitive to the testimony that we have heard. I would add to what you said UIlalt that we possibly amend the findings to include the testimony we received tonight from the property owners. Meridian City Council January 1,199 Page ?5 Marrow: I guess that and I am in agreement with what you are saying, I guess my concern was that there seemed to be some confusion certainly in my mind and the staffs mind when you have an alley way what constitutes the landscaping requirements and buffer and so on and sa forth. So, for purposes of discussion maybe specifically incorporate language inaudible}that covers our intent here. Rountree: I have no objection, I think that would be a good clarification. Cowie: Who would like to make the amendment to the (inaudible) Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I would move that we approve the findings of fact and conclusions of law as prepared far us by P & Z with the amendment that the property line to the west be in conjunction with the alley way ar adjacent to the alley way be landscaped as per, landscaped and fenced as per the City ordinance and that there be no access the alley way by vehicular traffic. And to remove the requirement for the pavement of the alley way. Bentley: Secand Carrie: Matian made by Mr. Morraw, second by Mr. Bentley, is there any further discussion? Roll call vote. ROLL CALL VOTE: Marrow WYea, Bentley -Yea, Rountree -Yea, Tolsma -Yea MOTION CARRIED: All Yea Corrie: Entertain a motion on the decision? Morraw: Mr. Mayor, the City Council of the City of Meridian hereby grants this rezone, the approval of this rezone requested by the applicant for the property described in the application with the conditions set forth in these findings of fact and conclusions of law as amended. That the praperty be required to meet the water and sewer requirements, the fire and life safety code requirement, uniform building Cade requirements, and other ordinances of the City of Meridian including that all parking areas shall be paved and the buffer zone and alley way issue be resolved by staff. Rountree: Secand Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Rountree to approve the decisian as written plus the buffer zone addition tv the decisian, any further discussion? All those in favor? apposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea Meridian City Council January ?, X997 Page 2B Morrow: Mr. Mayor inaudible} instruct the City Attorney to prepare an ordinance for the zone change from R~ to C-C for an antique, craft and collectible shop by Eugene Peters. Rountree. Second Currie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow second prepare an ordinance for the zone change, apposed? by Mr. Rountree to have the City Attorney any further discussion? Ali these in favor? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea FIVE MINUTE RECESS ITEM #10: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE LAKE AT CHERRY LANE SUBDIVISION N0. 7 BY STEINER DEVELOPMENT: Carrie: At this time I will open the public hearing and ask if a representative from Steiner Development would like to speak first. Steve Bradbury, 3g~ N. 6~" Street, Boise, was sworn by the City Attorney. Bradbury: Mr. Mayor and members of the Council my name is Steve Bradbury, I have been asked to represent Steiner Development tonight. What you have before you I guess technically on the agenda is an application for a conditional use permit for a planned development fora 6U unit senior living development. You also have a preliminary plat which is the next item vn the agenda. In order to save time I am going to try to go through everything at one time and just incorporate my comments into the record for the second one. This is the last of a multi-part development project on what was Mr. & Mrs. Teters 4D acre parcel aver an Ten Mile Road. In order to orient you, you might get behind tab 1 in the booklet that we passed out and pull out this color coded map so we can give you an idea of where we are. The colored portion of that map is the entire 40 acres and what you will recall you have approved in the past is the, in the westerly well a little over half of the property is a single family detached residential subdivision which is partly an R-4 zone which is in pink and partly an R-S zone which is in blue. You have also previously passed upon and approved a single family detached single living subdivision or area of the subdivision which is shown in yellow. That is in the southeast quadrant. The parcel that we are talking about here tonight is the northeast quadrant of the 40 acres and is shown in orange on this map and the rest of the Lake at Cherry Lane Subdivision is of course also shown an the map. Hopefully that gives you an idea of just where we are. Now you will probably also recall that the concept for this project the entire project was to provide a variety of housing choices in a single planned area. What we have is we have traditional single family detached dwellings an 8,Q~~ square foot lots, that is in the R-4 zones. Some Meridian City Council January 1, 1991 Page 2l similar sized homes and in slightly smaller lots those are 6,4go square foot lots in the R-S portion of the property that is the blue that I showed you on the map then we have the senior single family detached senior area which includes the club house which is in the yellow portion on the map. Now what Steiner Development is proposing is a more moderately priced senior area which consist of mostly two unit, zero lot line buildings and you can see a drawing of the proposed lay out inaudible} there on the beard in front of you. Most of them I said are two unit zero lot line buildings, there are also two three unit buildings and three four unit buildings. Inaudible} mast of them are two units, There is a total of 50 units on 5fl separate building lots most of them being zero lot lines. Behind tab 1, but in front of the map, you will see a list of the kind of project features, it is the second page in behind tab one I believe. The size of the parcel is about ~ 213 acre. You might recall and the staff pointed out in their report that this parcel was once shown as ~ ~/ acres. UVhat we think has happened to those other, that over half plus that 213 acre or whatever it is, is that some of that ground get platted into the number 5 subdivision far the 2g foot landscape buffer out on Ten Mile Road, This ground hasn't diminished it is just that the area got calculated into a different phase of the project. The density of the project as you can see would be about 9 units per acre which of course is substantially less than the 15 units per acre maximum under the zone. The lot sizes range from 32gg square feet to about 48og square feet and of course that exceeds the 24~g square foot minimum for the zone. The home sizes were proposed by Steiner Development to be 1158 square feet, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of this project with a requirement that the homes be a minimum of 11ag square feet. So the proposal exceeds the minimum by 6g square feet for each unit. ells are asking far some relief from the set backs pursuant to the Planned Unit Development provisions of the City's code. vllhich in case you are interested is 9~g? E. vVhat we are asking far is relief from the standard 20 foot front setback and the 20 foot street side set back so that the front set backs would be 1S feet and the street side yard setbacks would be 15 feet. The rear set backs are 15 and that is standard in the zone. The internal side yard setbacks are 5 feet which is a standard in the zone. This request is consistent with what the City approved in senior development on the other side of the street with the one that was previous approved. The Planning and Zoning Commission by the way recommended approval of that relief. The structures are proposed to be single story, originally when this plan was first brought to you or shown to you some couple of years ago they were talking about ~ story town house development. Steiner development is committed to constructing a senior citizens project so the idea of two story structures didn't really make much sense and we figured that seniors are not likely to want to be going up and down stairs. That is one reason, the second reason is that we would they would like to keep the buildings with a little bit lower profile at the entry to the subdivision. As you recall this will be immediately adjacent tv the very to the entry off of Ten Mile. vVe are trying to keep the buildings low in that location. In any event, what is being proposed is 60 units that previously we were showing 5S units in this area. Sa that doesn't change the number of units dramatically. The street frontages, required street frontages on each lot under the zone is 54 feet. The lots that are proposed for this project are 33 feet each except an { 4 Meridian City Council January 1, X991 Page 28 the corners and they are something a little bit less. Vllhat we, I guess what we need to do is ask for relief from the standard 5g foot street frontage requirement. V1lhat I would like to suggest that you da and I think what the Planning and Zoning Commission recognized is that since we are talking about zero lot sine units that is each building will consist of two units on two lots. Sa we will have a total of 66 feet of frontage for each building minimum 66 feet of frontage for each building. Ullith the 4 unit buildings it will be even more than that. 1Nhat you get is you get essentially the same amount of frontage for each building, you dust don't have exactly that 56 foot frontage far each lot. think what you end up with is as you can see is you end up with something that has essentially the appearance of single family dwelling or nearly to a single family dwelling on reasonably sized lots. So, what we are asking far is reiief from the 54 foot street frontage requirement in order to comply with what is shown vn the preliminary plat. Parking facilities, each unit will have at least a two car garage and there will be a drive way far each unit that will hold at least two cars, There is some off street parking that is shown on the plat ~inaudibie}that is a Iota! of ~~ spaces I believe. Consistent with what was approved for the senior project an the other side of the street we are asking for relief from the four foot set back requirement from the right of way. Typically of street parking needs to be four feet back from the street right of way. Since these are private streets and consistent with what was approved before we would like to be able to take access directly auto the street for these parking spaces. Essentially what we are talking about is these are used far guests. The streets will be proposed to be private streets on 4g feet of right of way, ~8 feet of pavement, 2 feet of curb and gutter on each side. Steiner Development originally proposed a 4 foot sidewalk on one side the Pianning and Zoning Commission preferred a five foot wide sidewalk on one side and that is what they recommended approval of and that is acceptable, we will go along with that. The streets would be constructed to the Ada County Highway District construction standards and all of that is also consistent with what was approved for the senior project across the street. On the next page of your booklet there you will find a list of amenities and I won't go through them ail. One of them is the gated security entrance we would like to provide same, a little more security for the residents of the subdivision similar to the one across the street. There will be the privacy wall that surrounds the project and that too is consistent what is approved for the project across the street. The 24 foot landscape buffer along Ten Mile Road. There is also a common area, the drawing that you see here shows the entrance to that common area between two lots here ~inaudibie}, The common area consists of approximately ~/ acre. Now it is a dual purpose camrnan area and it is going to sound a little bit funny to you but the engineers tell us it really works. Uvhat we have in mind here is that this area would be used as a drainage retention facility during the wet time of the year. It would drain out except when there are storms obviously, like last week there would be water in it and theoretically this week there wouldn't. Dry most of the year. The typical storm the engineers tell us would bring two feet of water into this area and it would take 48 hours to drain. In 16g year storm this area would have 4 ~/~ feet of water in it and then it would take a little bit longer to drain that out. The idea is to make use of these drainage areas rather than to have them simply be ponds when it is wet and weeds `;.. Meridian City Council ~ January ~, X997 Page ~9 when it is dry. Sothis area would be improved with sod, let me back up a little bit. This area first of course there would be a panel developed into it and it would have sloping sides and then there would be a drainage facility constructed in the bottom of it according to engineering plans. Then it would be improved with sod on the sides and the bottom and it would be landscaped with trees and shrubs around the edges and there would be picnic tables and benches put in strategic locations and you can see that there is a proposed kind of gathering area gazebo area that would be built to the franc. obviously when it is wet and stormy that area would not be very usable. But of course when it is wet and stormy we are not expecting there will be too many people out wandering around wanting to use that area. ~n the other hand when in the spring and the summer and fall months when it is dryer that area will be usable rather than being a weed patch which l know the City is concerned with in same of the other subdivisions. So the idea is to make this a nice area that would be usable by the homeowners, it would be owned and maintained by the homeowners through the homeowners association. UVhat else can I tell you, behind tab ~ in the book are the application materials, I don't know that we need to go through those unless you have any questions about any of them. Behind tab 3 in the booklet is a drawing of the preliminary plat, there are actually ~ versions one just shows the lot lines and the second shows the footprints of the buildings for thane buildings on those lots. Behind tab 4 you will find a typical floor plan for a two unit building and a typical elevation for a two unit building. These are two bedroom, two bath, two car garage. Behind tab 5 you will find proposed construction materials for the units. I guess we are talking about stucco and siding colors and the type of brick accents and roofing materials and what not and we can talk about those if you are parkicularly interested in any of them. ~f course we received the staff report for the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting and went through that in same little detail that night. VIle can go through it again a little bit more. For the mast part the staff report is acceptable. Under genera! comments the number 8, the only concern that we have there is the requirement that the off street parking areas are not to be closer than ~ feet to any street right of way. ~f course we are asking far relief from that particular requirement. Under the site specific comments and requirements, number one pressurized irrigation, yes pressurized irrigation will be provided through the Nampa Meridian Irrigation District. It wi11 be the same system that provides pressurized irrigation far the Lake at Cherry Lane No. 3 and 4 and 5 as they come on line. Street lights, yes, the developer would like to probably put in same more decorative street lighting rather than the standard stuff and we will work with staff to make sure that the staff is satisfied with the street lighting issues. The parking along number three, parking along the private roads, the proposal would be to treat these roads consistent with those across the street that is parking be permitted on one side of the street only. That would be a provision contained within the restrictive covenants to deal with that and the homeowners association would then be charged with the responsibility of enforcing it. Signs could be installed, whatever it is that the Fire Chief would like to have done is certainly satisfactory. Number 4, the developer understands that approval is subject to capacity in the waste water treatment plant. Number 5, we were talking about the size of the acreage and density, I already talked about that one. Meridian City Council January ?',1991 Page 3g Number 6, the common areas as indicated with the common area that is shown with the recreation area along with the landscaping treatment that comes along down through here along the boundary and into entry, our engineers calculate that meets the required 1 D°/~ under the code, actually it exceeds it. Number ~, sidewalk, yes, we are proposing rather than a four foot we are talking about a five foot sidewalk one side as P & Z suggested be approved. Number 8, Fair Housing Act, we intend to comply with all of the requirements of the Fair Housing Act. As a matter of fact just this past month I took another run at trying to understand the Fair Housing Act and discovered that last December the statute was amended significantly and new regulations are proposed and not yet final. But when they are made final of course we will do everything that is required in order to meet the requirements of that act and the regulations. Number 9, I think staff is expressing a little bit of frustration about the difficulty we have had in keeping all of the various phases of this project straight and consistent and moving along. I can give you a little bit of an update. Number 3 is built and Ivts are being sold. Number 4 has been approved for final plat approval, it has not yet been constructed because of the difficulty in obtaining required sewer easements. Last month anon- development agreement was submitted to the City Council which I understand the City Council passed upon with some changes and the City Attorney and I are trying to get our heads together to figure out exactly what it is we need to fix up on that. Number 5 has gat final plat approval and is under construction. Number 6 has preliminary plat approval and final plat has been submitted and scheduled for consideration by the Council next month. That brings us to number 7 which is the one that we have here. Sv think there has been fairly reasonable progress, progress is being made in the order of the development applications. What we would like to ask the Counci! not to da is to put the developer into a position where he is in a lock step where one project has to be completed before the next project can be started. That will simply make, it will not be very efficient and it will simply slaw things dawn before, it has been slow enough without having that happen to us I think is what I am trying to say. Number 10, yes we will prepare restrictive covenants, I have a draft of the restrictive covenants that l have prepared far the project across the street and I expect these will be very similar to it. we can provide that to the City whenever they would like to see it. Number 11, staff is suggesting that we perhaps should have 13Dg square feet homes in this phase of the subdivision. Planning & Zoning recommended approval for 11 gg which is consistent with what is proposed and we would ask the Council to do the same. Number 1 ~, all ordinances of the City of Meridian shall be met, we understand that, subject of course to the various requests far relief that are embodied in this application. Finally number 13, the development agreement is required, we understand that, we will provide the City with a development agreement at just any stage of the proceedings that you might like. If you want to see a development agreement at final plat, if you would like to see it before final plat that is fine. You tell us when you want it and we will have it for yvu. ~llJith that l will answer any questions. Corrie: Council, questions? Meridian City Council January ~, X997 Page 31 Rountree: Mr. Mayor, !haven't seen, I am just going to ask, have you submitted a written response to the City Staff's letter of November 8t" to the staff? Bradbury: Have not, would be pleased to do that if you would like. Rountree: It is part of their comments. Corrie: Steve, the common area is it also irrigated with sprinkler system, so when there isn't any water it will be green? Bradbury: Yes, the whole idea it to make it into something that would be usable. Bentley: On that common where you are going to have your drainage pond haw much of that area is going to be actually usable to these seniors? Bradbury: 1111e11 theoretically the vast majority of it would be, as I recall, let me pull it out so I don't guess, I have these engineered drawings here. It is a little iffy to have a lawyer try to interpret engineering drawings but I am going to do my best because it looked to me like I looked at this distance before. The slopes, the area of slope in that area are going to be ~ 5 feet wide, there will be a slope, I guess a 3 to ~ slope, sa those sloped areas themselves the 15 feet that constitutes the slope probably won't be particularly usable for seniors. The rest of the area though would all be usable. 5v what we have is the, I am going to estimate the pond area is going to be in an area about like this. Sa you have the outside edges an the top and then you have all of the inside area in there that would ail be usable. ~f course the gazebo is not going to be in the water it will be above water. Then you can see that there are other areas there. (Inaudible) Bradbury: Except for the actual sloped portion of the pond itself, the theory is that the entire site, the entire lot would be usable space. Bentley: Next, are all of these units, I haven't dug through the book, but are all of these going to be identical? Bradbury: The proposal is to create them to all be of the same floor plan and basic elevation. But cosmetically they can be different, they might have different treatments an the exterior treatments, slightly different brick treatments. Then there are going to be some color choices. Structurally and floor plan they are all the same. Morrow: Steve a question, I want to revisit this slope issue on the retention pond, you indicate that it is a 3 to 1 and the wall is ~ 5 feet. That means from the, if I am understanding this correctly from the level at where the gazebo is the bottom of the retention pond is five feet below ground level? fr.. Meridian city Council January 7,1991 Page 32 Bradbury: You can probably da the math better than I can, I had the idea we were about 4 feet, maybe 4'/ ~inaudible~. Three to one you are right it would be five feet. Morrow; My follow up question here is haw do you expect senior citizens to traverse that 3 to 1 slope to have access to the bottom so that it qualifies as green space. Bradbury; That is a goad question and I didn't fully explain it. The front portion of that the entry way portion here will be a ~ to 1 so it want be as steep, The idea is to put in some also to provide ramps and steps sa that people can get dawn into it and in and out of that area. Morrow: I guess my concern here is that a senior citizens housing project if you are going to use that as green space to qualify for the 1g°I~ requirement and it is going to be usable a goad percentage of these folks may have canes, they may have walkers and so on and so forkh. I think what you will find very candidly is that 3 to 1 and 4 to 1 slopes are just not acceptable far those folks. Bradbury: I have no doubt that you are right, certainly about the 3 to 1 and you could very well be right about the 4 to 1. If the City would like to see an alternate arrangement for access into the area I am sure we will do it. Ilve certainly don't want, one of the things you have to understand this is conceptual. That is that the idea for the use of this is not carved in stone but that is the proposal is something we would like to see accomplished. If you are concerned about access let us knave we will do something with it. Marrow: I think the issue in my mind is that if it is going to count as usable green space, it has to be usable. Bradbury: You have to be able to get to it and !agree with that. Marrow: The rules that apply to senior citizens don't apply to the normal public. Bradbury: Uvhat if just as a suggestion what if we were to suggest that there be a condition imposed that area be made accessible under the requirements of the ADA, does that do it? Morrow: That is fine as far as I am concerned. Bradbury: Maybe that can take care of it. Morrow: I guess my next question is, this is a hypothetical question and it was alluded to by the staff, based on my recent experience in other areas plus one before our council in terms of La Playa is that the concept here in terms of joint ownership and Meridian City Council January ?', X991 Page 33 small Iots and so on and so forth, hasn't worked in the marketplace in Treasure Valley, Idaho. I guess and certainly this is the private sector, it is not up to us to dictate what the private sector is going to do and try because there may be a new gimmick here that does work. I guess from my standpoint is ifi the concept fails, does this layout lend itself to conversion of something that we don't end up with a problem like we have at La Playa for example. Again, I guess maybe that is a word ofi caution. From my perspective is we are approving this and buying this and if for whatever reasons it fails, you are basically stuck. Bradbury: I understand your concern and I have to tell you I am not a marketing person either as you all know, I am just a lawyer. So I have to think that these guys aren't going to invest the kind of money that they are going to have to invest an this project without having given that some thought. I guess I share your observation that yes this is the private sector and if they don't do it, ifi it doesn't work it is on their nickel and I think these guys understand that. Morrow: The point I am making is don't come to governmental sector and expect us to bail your buns out ofi an issue that you got yourselves into. Bradbury: I understand, caution dully noted. Bentley: Mr. Mayor, I have a question too on the, with the narrow streets and sidewalks on one side and controlled parking on one side, what are you going to do with the seniors that decide to ga strolling around out there with cars parked on one side and no sidewalks on the side they are on? Bradbury: Because we have a rather controlled environment our thinking is that with the gated entrance that the only people who are going to be coming and going are the people that live their and their guests. And I am going to tell you just what I think, that is, I don't think we are going to see a lot of traffic, a lot of activity in and out of this place. I don't think. Because it is in a relatively controlled area and it is a relatively confined space !don'# think that sidewalks on one side are going to be too hard to find. think if people want to get onto a sidewalk at most all they are going to have to do is walk across the street in order to get there. The parking issue, again, we have plenty of parking spaces for the residents and mast of the time any guests that would be there because we have on each unit four parking spots. So the restrictive covenants that just drafted and which are proposed for across the street would prohibit parking on the street by residents and only for guests. So it would be only those occasions where there are theoretically more than two car Ioads of people visiting any one unit at any one time that we are going to see too much on the street, I think. Sv, I understand your concern but I think because this is a relatively controlled environment I don't foresee that there are likely to be any conflicts. Bentley: What type of mail delivery are you going to have in there? j#r, . 4. Meridian City Council January 1, X991 Page ~~ Bradbury: # don't knawthe answer tv that question. Bentley: If it is curb delivery that is going to impact your sidewalks too. Bradbury: I have to think that it is going to be curb delivery although I did talk to Mr. Campbell about putting a single delivery spat out at some location in the project. The concept is something that I think the developer might like to try. Assuming the post office would agree to it. Bentley: I don't think the seniors are going to like it. Bradbury: They would have to walk to get their mail so they may not be too happy about that, I don't know. It is a goad question and I don't knawthe answer tv it. Tolsma: This ~ 8 foot setback you propose, does that include the sidewalk? Bradbury: It does not, the sidewalk would be in addition. Actually if you look at the street section on the plat Tolsma: What 1 was getting at (inaudible) Bradbury: one of the things, and we talked about that a little bit at the Planning and Zoning Commission too. Uvhat we have with 40 feet of right of way, only, well it would be 37 feet of that would be improved, Inaudible} so we have an extra 3 feet of right of way unimproved right of way. vllhat the Planning and Zoning Commission suggested that be done in order to salve the very problem that you are talking about is to be certain that the improvements are centered in the right of way such that there is some additional space an either side of the street so that we won't have the conflict, so that we provide a maximum amount of space in front of each lot, from the building to the actual improvements of the right of way. So what we end up with is I guess 3 extra feet that we can work with there. Vvhich helps some, perhaps doesn't help in the case of the suburban that gets parked there that would certainly be long. I think we can, by laying the thing out we can minimize the concern that you have got. Bentley: Now, haw does that apply to the Iats that don't have sidewalks? Bradbury: It will be exactly the same thing, because we have gat 37, the sidewalk is not included in the ~8 feet all right so we will have an equal amount of space an either side. The space would be the same on either side. Inaudible} Bentley: But the problem would be though if we have the big car that he is talking about an the side of the street that doesn't have a sidewalk, and instead of overhanging on the sidewalk he is overhanging now an the street. F ,. Meridian City Council January 1, X997 Page 35 Bradbury: 11Vell nv because we will have there will be an extra, the, some additional distance that is not included in the ~ 8 foot setback Inaudible} i# just won't be improved. So there will be that extra space, that is part of the right of way. For all intensive purposes it is going to look like a part of the Iot because it will be landscaped. Corrie: Any further questions? Thank you Steve, anyone else from the public that would like to issue testimony an the request for a conditional use permit? Tolsma: Mr. Mayor, I probably have to ask the Council here if I should declare a conflict of interest mainly because these two people here that inaudible} Crookston: You do need to declare that you feel that way and make the declaration and then it is up to the Council as to whether or not should be allowed to submit a vote or participate in the proceedings at all. Morrow: Mr. Tolsma, I think the answer this time is the same as it was last time, we are not going to let you off the hook as far as I am concerned. Rountree: But you can make that decision an your awn. Morrow: i don't have a problem with you making a decision given your history of long standing fairness, that is fine. Inaudible} I don't have a problem with that either. Corrie: Mr. Tolsma it is up to you. Tolsma: I don't have a problem with it, I just wanted to make sure the Council was aware of that. Carrie: Council is all in agreement that the conflict of interest is not there. So you are back on inaudible}. Hearing no other testimony I will close the public hearing. Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I have same questions of staff, would you please re-open the hearing so that the staff comments could be part of its Carrie: Gkay, I will reopen the public hearing. Morrow: Thank you, Gary and Shari, in the past when we have had a private road situation it seems to me and I am thinking that it was Ashford Greens in particular one of the requirements that the City Council placed an private roads within the homeowners association was that there be a fund established far repair and maintenance of those roads. l want to make sure that any application that comes before us with private roads if we are going to accept those private roads that is comments in terms of site specific ar whatever that same funding mechanism and Meridian City Council January 7, 1997 Page 36 requirement be included in any application for private roads so that at such time those roads need to be repaired they can be repaired and not da as we have seen done in other areas that there is an attempt to have them made public so that the burden of repairing the roads is placed on us the general public and not an those that have benefited from it. Smith: Yes Councilman Morrow, Mayor and Council, as I recall from Ashford Greens No. ~ subdivision that is the case, the Council placed a requirement on them to establish a sinking fund that would generate moneys to replace the roadways and 1 believe there was a ten year time period placed in there that the money would be available after ten years to completely replace the roadway. Morrow. Was that not done with negotiations back and forth between, the numbers that were arrived at with (inaudible) Smith: I think their traffic engineer had submitted that information to you. Those requirements I believe to be part of the CC&R's. Morrow: Was that to be included in the development agreement and addressed in there also, I am asking I don't know, was it~ust the CC&R's? Smith: Shari said Ashford didn't have one, a development agreement. Marrow: That same thing wauid apply to this and any other private road. Smith: 1Ne wauid recommend that be made a requirement from the City Council, yes sir. Morrow: I guess what I am asking in the future in terms of site specific comments could you include that verbiage in your site specific comments? Smith: Yes we will. Morrow: Thank you Corrie: Did I understand it would be in the CC&R's ar the development agreement one of the two? Smith: Or both yes sir. May I make a couple of comments concerning this plat? Carrie: Go ahead. Smith: Number as Mr. Bradbury commented we would like to receive written comments responding to the staff comments. The second item that i would Tike to address is the Meridian City Council January 7,1997 Page 37 drainage pond, !don't know the elevation of the pond bottom at this point but there is standing water in the pond. There has been and there was before we were diluted with rain, I am concerned with the depth of that pond there is going to be water in it. we are not in a high ground water period of time right now. The chief made a comment, I think that area could be used year round, could ice skate in the winter, fish in the spring, water ski in the summer, duck hunt in the fall. On a more serious note, we are right at this moment making a study of our water system in that area, the Cherry Lane Village area and I don't have any information that I can give you. we have gat some areas in Cherry Lane Village that are experiencing some low water pressure and we don't know why. But, I am supposed to have some preliminary information back by the end of this week, I just want you to know and the applicant to know that we have got to get that figured out before we can start plumbing any more homes into our water system. The pressurized irrigation system is critical as far as the use of domestic water, It is an absolute requirement as far as I am concerned that these subdivisions be connected tv a pressurized irrigation system when the first building permit is issued. That system is going. Not only from the standpoint of utilizing irrigation water that is available in lieu of putting domestic water an the ground. But also, we circumvent a resident having a double connection. Making connection to the City system and then later connecting to the irrigation system that has been required. I don't know the status of the irrigation system, Mr. Campbell maybe can enlighten us on that right now. But as I understand it it is mostly done, this irrigation system is a combined effort that is supposed to supply irrigation water to Firelight I believe and I am not sure if Englewood is involved in that, think it is. And also the Lake at Cherry sane, all of the phases of the Lake at Cherry Lane. As Mr. Bradbury outlined the Lake at Cherry Lane No. 3 off site improvements have been constructed, that is the streets, everything has been built there, homes are being constructed and there have been some homes that had to be connected to the City water system for sprinkling purposes. That was an agreement that I made with Mr. Campbell the minute that pressurized irrigation system is available those houses are disconnected from that irrigation system. But the important thing is that irrigation system be completed before irrigation season starts Spring of 1991. As far as the use of the pond area to ADA purposes, Shari informed that the maximum slope on an ADA bases is 1 ~ to 1. If we are going to be five feet in the ground that is 50 feet horizontally. So, you may have to look at that again. The other concern that bath Shari and I have and just discussing it informally is haw the amount of open space was calculated. It doesn't appear on a visual basis that there is 1D°/o of open space outside of the platted lots. I think we need to see some drawings, scaled, calculated drawings that show yes there is a minimum of 1 D°/a open space if this is a PUD. I guess that they have answered for the mast part the comments that were made on site specific item 9, which concerns the numbering and the development of the different phases of the subdivision. End of Tape} 1Ne would like to see the CC~R's submitted as soon as possible. They should be submitted with the preliminary plat at least a draft copy of the CC&R's that is an ordinance requirement. ! think as far as the development agreement is concerned we would like to see that developed as soon as possible also. I think the Meridian City Council January ?', ~99~` Page 38 more of these documents that we get upfront the better off we are all going to be when we get to a final plat stage. That is ail I have Mr. Mayor. Carrie: Do you have all of these conditions that he is referring to? Bradbury: I wrote down notes as Gary went slang. The written responses to the staff comments we can have those things back to you this week, next week at the latest. The concern with the depth of the pond and the ground water, we recognize that too, I say we, the owners recognize that too. The engineer has been retained to come up with a solution to that. Same preliminary engineering plans have been prepared which would utilize a combination drainage system, perforated pipe and a bed liner in order to prevent ground water and surface water from coming together. Vl~e have those preliminary drawings now, they are not final but we should be able to submit those far Gary to take a look at any time real soon. llllater system, okay, we have water pressure problems, we understand we have to resolve that issue firs#, Pressurized irrigation system, it essentially completed, the pumps are installed, the lines are in. I don't know what else is required other than just turning it on and making it work. I guess we probably don't want to do that until this spring. The issue on access to the common area, yes, that is a legitimate concern and I think that what we would propose to do is provide you folks with some sort of a drawing that would show you how we propose to solve that problem. Gpen space calculations we had same, I was leafing through my file, I can't find them, we will have to provide those to Gary and would be happy to da that too, Restrictive covenants, we can have a proposed set of restrictive covenants far Gary tv look at, probably the same time that we have these other materials that is in another week I would think. A development agreement, I am going to suggest that we probably need to sit dawn with staff and decide just exactly what we want with respect to a development agreement. That is, do we want to talk about a development agreement that covers all 4 acres, ail three phases of this project. Do we want a separate development agreement for each of the three phases of the project. I want to try and make it so it is not too complicated but at the same time I think we want to cover all of the bases. So l suggest that we sit down with staff and figure out what the best route might be. Gnce we can come to an understanding on that we will get you one. Bentley: Yvu mentioned that talking about a panel liner, if yvu are having trouble getting rid of the water without it, how are you going to get rid of it with it? Bradbury: The idea of the liner is to keep ground water or surface water from mingling but the whole system here is designed to drain into the Nine Mile Drain. That pond is just a collecting pond and then with the drainage structure all of the water eventually goes into the Nine Mile Drain which has been approved pursuant to a license agreement with Nampa Meridian. Tolsma: So you also in that proposed (inaudible) ~,:.. Meridian City Counci! January 7,1991 Page 39 Bradbury: We will sure see if we can't figure out a way to properly depict that. Tolsma: I think there is a drain ditch that (inaudible) Bradbury: I don't know exactly what they have done with it, but I understand that ditch was their and has been taken into account in the entire scheme, the drainage scheme out there. Unfortunately we don't have an engineer here tonight who can address thane engineering concerns and I have just gat to rely on Mr. Jacobs to, I guess Mr. Jacobs ~inaudibie} Mr. Smith gets to look at it and Ada County Highway District gets to look at it and I suspect that the Ada County Engineer might have an opportunity to look at the drainage issues on this thing. I understand that there are same drainage concerns but the engineers are working on those. INe certainly want to make sure that Mr. Smith is entirely satisfied. I am making a note about the car parking here. Tolsma: (Inaudible) Corrie: Any further comments or questions? Morrow: My concern is about this drainage pond and the fact that it is going to be counted as landscape area. I think that what Mr. Bradbury describes is accurate to this extent that it does go into the Nine Mile Drain. But the reality is that it is designed in such a manner to settle out in inaudible} and sa the elevation and the drain line is some distance above the bottom of the pond allowing sediment to settle out so in reality the water could stay in the pond pretty much as Mr. Smith has observed now for a portion of the year. I guess the second thing is in terms of comments is Pram my standpoint we are dealing with 7 or 8 major issues that need to be resolved. I think that is clearly outside of what we ought to approve tonight subject to al! of these things being resolved. I would like to see the resolution of most of these things in the public arena before the Council and have it be a matter of public record. From that standpoint I think I would be inclined to support a motion of some sort that continues the public hearing until our next meeting to give the staff and representatives of Steiner an opportunity to resolve these S or 9 issues and then come back before Council and present those issues in the public forum and adopt them as part of the public record. Bentley: I would agree, I think we have a couple of pretty major issues here especially on this drainage pond that l think need to be addressed. I too think it should be continued, Rountree: I have been looking at this thing far the last 2~ minutes trying to figure out why I would as a consumer want to live in this community and I can't find anything appealing about the whole concept. It is so squeezed in there it is about ready to pap. I think that there needs to be consideration far open space more than what has been given. It appears that this open space is more of a side line, a spin off if you will to accommodate the engineering requirements of drainage for the community. At a Meridian City Council January ~, 1991 Page 4a minimum it Iooks to me like they are probably going to lose 4 units to even accommodate their drainage needs in that area. I can't say that I am particularly excited about 6~ units that all look the same. Maybe there is a magic price point far this kind of housing that will make them look gaol, I can't see it. I agree there are some significant issues that need to be resolved and maybe by continuing the hearing I might find some redeeming factors in this particular proposal. Tolsma: I think we need to continue the public hearing inaudible} Carrie: It seems to be pretty unanimous of the Council, I would entertain a motion for continuance of public hearing. Marrow: Mr. Mayor, I would move that we continue the public hearing an bath agenda items 1 B and 11 those being the request for conditiona! use permit for the Lake at Cherry Lane Subdivision No. ? by Steiner Development, I am sorry I wish to start the motion again because we are only dealing with item 1B. Mr. Mayor I would move the public hearing for the request for conditional use permit far the Lake at Cherry Lane inaudible} until January ~1, 199' to allow our staff and the representatives of Steiner Development to work out the S or 9 issues that have been discussed tonight that have not been resolved. Bentley: Second Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Bentley to continue the public hearing on item 1B request far conditional use permit far the Lake at Cherry Lane Na. ~, any further discussion? Hearing Wane, al! those in favor? ~ppased? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #11: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THE LAKE AT CHERRY LANE NO. 7 BY STEINER DEVELOPMENT: Carrie: At this time I will open the public hearing, Mr. Bradbury. Steven Bradbury, 3aa N. 6t" Street, Boise, was sworn by the City Attorney. Bradbury: I have no additional comments, I would simply like to ask that the comments made in the previous item be incorporated into the record into this one and suggest that in light of the tabling of the previous to simply table this item as well. Corrie: Noted and recorded, Anybody from the public that would like to enter public testimony at this time? Hearing none l will entertain a matian of Council. Meridian City Council January 7,1991 Page 41 Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I would move that we continue the public hearing for the preliminary plat for the Lake at Cherry Lane No.1 by Steiner Development. Bentley: Second Carrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Bentley to continue the public hearing for request of preliminary plat for the Lake at Cherry Lane No. l until the meeting of January X1,1991, any further discussion? All those in favor? Gpposed? MGTIGN CARRIED: Ali Yea ITEM #12: MARTY GOLDSMITH: DISCUSSION OF SALMON RAPIDS NO. 3: Carrie: Is there anyone here? Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, I believe the motion at the last meeting was to table that unti I the 21 ~. Corrie: That was the original motion, so that will be on the 21 ~, it was on the agenda by mistake. Smith: Mr, Mayor, an Salmon Rapids No. 5, in reading the minutes the Council wanted to visit a little bit about this I guess with me. You were going to consider it, I don't knave if that was individually if you wanted to meet with me in my office before the next Council meeting. The impression that I got from the minutes was that you wanted some conversation to take place between yourselves and staff before the Council meets on the ~1~ to consider this issue. Did I misunderstand that or how did you want me to proceed because there was some concern by Councilman Rountree there was concern by Councilman Marrow and I don't know if the other two councilmen had similar concerns, I don't recall, that you wanted to think about this situation. If you want to get together with me individually just give me a call and we can do that before that ~1~ meeting. Tolsma: I think that had to do with the extension of the sewer line (inaudible) Corrie: So Council if you will check in with Gary we can get those questions answered. ITEM #13: WATER/SEWER/TRASH DELINQUENCIES: Carrie: This is the cut off schedule for January 5,1997, this is to inform you in writing if you choose to have the right to a predetermined hearing at 1-1-91 before the Mayor and City Council to appear in person and be judged on the facts and defend the claim made by this City that your water, sewer and trash bil! is delinquent. You may retain counsel. This service will be discontinued on 1-8-97 unless payment is received in full. Meridian City Council January 7, X097 Page 4~ Is there anyone present that wishes to contest their water, sewer, and trash delinquency? Hearing none, you are hereby informed that you may appeal and have the decision of the City reviewed by the Fourth Judicial District Court pursuant to Idaho Code. Even though they appeal their water will be shut aff. The amount of the turn off list is $~ 4,~~ 3.21. 1Ne are making progress folks. Marrow: Mr. Mayor, I would move that we approve the shut off list. Tvlsma: Second Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Tolsma to approve the shut aff fist, any further discussion? All those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #~ ~4: APPROVE BILLS: Bentley: I move that we approve the bills. Rountree: Second Carrie: Matian made by Mr. Bentley, second by Mr. Rountree to approve the bills, any further discussion? AI! those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea ITEM #15: DEPARTMENT REPORTS: Corrie: Chief Gordon? Gordon: Nothing Mr. Mayor. Corrie: Shari Stiles? Stiles; Nothing Currie: Mr. Smith? Smith: Mr. Mayor, I didn't get on the agenda officially but I did have a bid opening Friday on a pump station, can I present that to the Council? Mr. Mayor and Council members we had a bid opening at 3:40 on Friday, last Friday, which was January 3`~. UUe opened bids for pump and pump house far 1111e11 No. 1l which was previously drilled. UVe received five bids and my Assistant Engineer Brad UUatson did same compilation of the bids and some background checks far experience far the low bidder Meridian City Council January 7,1991 Page 43 and I will pass that out to you right now. The first two pages concern the background of Mr., the low bidder which was Irminger Inc., the bid results are an the third page. The law bid by Irminger, Inc. is 163,D11,98, that includes the bid items that were listed to the left side of the page which will equip the well that was previously drilled by Riverside Inc. out of Parma. UVeil No. 11 if you are not familiar with it is located at the entrance to Las Alamitos Subdivision off of Locust Grove Road. The background check and experience check that Brad did forme the references were all rather glowing. 1Ne don't have any reason to not recommend that you award this bid to Mr. Irminger sa that would be the City's Engineer's recommendation to you. If you have any questions I can try and answer those far you I wi I1. Corrie; Council, question of Mr. Smith? Morrow: I have one Mr. Mayor, Gary you indicated on or at least Lynd Hoover has indicated in his recommendation that Stocky Plumbing is listed as a subcontractor in this proposal, is that correct? Smith: Yes Morrow: Having been such I would like to stress to the Council that Stocky Plumbing is a plumber who does work for my construction company so I would ask if that represents a conflict in terms of me voting on this issue? Rountree: Do you own interest in Stocky? Morrow: I do nat. Corrie: I assume that you were not aware of his subcontract at the time (inaudible) Marrow: I was not aware until this proposal was given to us at this moment that Stocky Plumbing was a subcontractor. Corrie: Council, any problems? Morrow. 1 do business on a monthly basis with Stocky Plumbing. Corrie: Any objection from Council? ao you want to stay then? Marrow Yes sir, that being the case Mr. Mayor, !would move that we accept the bid frarn Iminger Inc. for the ~Ilell No. 11 pumping facilities in the amount of $183,9 1,98 and that we authorize the Mayor to sign and the clerk to attest that contract. Rountree: Second Meridian City Council January 7, X997 Page 44 Corrie: IVlotion made by Mr. Morrow, second by Mr. Rountree, one question you said $ ~ S3, o ~ 7.98? Marrow: Yes that is a typo an my deaf, it is actually $~ fi3,g~ 7.98, Corrie: Okay, Inaudible} you heard the motion by Mr. Morrow, and second by Mr. Rountree for the approval of Iminger Inc. far $~ 83,g~ 1.98, all those in favor's O ased~ . pp MOTION CARRIED: Alf Yea Smith: The only other thing I need to da this evening is put together an organizational chart for public works and building department. I will pass a copy of that out to each ane of you far you to Ioak at. If you have any comments get a hold of me. Corrie: Thank you Gary, Mr. Johnson do you have anything this evening? Johnson: No Corrie: Mr. Crookston? Craokstan: Nothing Carrie: Mr. Marrow? Marrow: A couple of things, first is to remind the Council that the transportation committee meets tomorrow evening. I don't have any input from any of you for special pra~ects. Sa unless I have same in my box by start of the meeting tomorrow night we will press on with our normal meeting. Mr. Tofsma cannot be there due to a conflict so if ane of the other Councilmen would like to attend in his place I would be more than happy to have you there. That would take care of that. I want to know about the status of the enclaves, we talked at our last meeting about setting up a format by which we can do an annexation and zoning of the enclaves. Are we preliminarily underway with the procedure for that to happen. I guess Gary it would be ane of your departments ar Shari. Also, we have talked about and do not yet have in ordinance form but at our first meeting of January of each year electing Council President and Council Vice President, I guess my question would be is that do we want to da that tonight or in fact wait until we have the ordinance campleted'~ Corrie: Where are we on the ordinance? Marrow: 1Nelf we are to the paint now where in our last strategic planning session we had prototype ordinance for three or four things. Each Councilman was supposed to review, give that to Vllayne sa that we could come with a composite far a trial finished Meridian City Council January ~, X997 Page 4~ ordinance. And then once moving through that have a final ordinance ready for adoption. Corrie: Counci I's pleasure? Rountree: It would be my preference that we wait to do that coincident with the approval of the ordinance, Morrow: The last question that i have is I have been asked by several City employees the status of their insurance policies that we don't have any answers for them. I would like to find out what it is that we are doing in the insurance thing if anything. I know that there have been no contracts or proposed contracts presented to the Council for their approval ar for their renewal contract. So is anybody aware specifically of anything gong vn with that insurance'? Carrie: Yes, it is the same as it is has always been, Ulle are getting a read out for the Council and also far the employees of what they have. There are some employees that didn't even know what they had here. So we are getting, the policy is the same there is no change whatsoever. UVe change the agent of record because the company said that they were going to work with the employees and the employee meetings. VI1e haven't changed anything, actually Blue Cross has given us a little more coverage and as soon as I have that all put together we will give it to council and also the employees. There is no increase, at a five percent increase rate from Blue Cross which is across the board from everything. Morrow: Sa when that package is put together then the renewal contract will be presented to the Council for its approval and then authorization. Carrie: Right, actually it comes due the first of the year. UVe didn't have an contracts Y given to us at that time. So we will have it all, probably by the 2~~. Morrow: And then we review it and do the authorization for signature and attestin . g Corrie: llVe had to keep it going because if we didn't we had an interru tion of p coverage. Morrow: Then hopefully we will deal with that at the Council meeting of the Z9 ~. Other than the status of the enclaves I think that is everything that I have Mr. Mayor. Carrie: Okay, we want to work with that at the 8th, well we will know that next meetin . g Morrow: 1 am sorry, one mare issue, it may very well be that at the strategic tannin p g meeting on its normal schedule, both Mr. Tolsma and I may be out of town for our annual trip to Phoenix. That is the 28t", so I guess the question would be is do we want Meridian City Council January ~, X991 Page 45 to move that meeting up or do we want not to have it this month for the lack of a quorum? Corrie: For a planning meeting you don't need a quorum (inaudible) Rountree: if we could move it up I think it would benefit to have everybody there. I don't know what schedules are like. Corrie; Well how long are you going to be gone, that full week? Morrow: Well I don't know the schedules for now but it could be anywhere from the ~5t" through the 3`d or 4~". The 25~" being Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and back the following Sunday night or Monday at the latest. Corrie; Let's tentatively schedule it for the ~3~~ then and then or the ~~~d. Bentley: l will have to check the basketball schedule. Smith: Mr. Mayor, we have 2 Planning and ~ Zoning meetings next week, Tuesday and Thursday and then we would have a Council meeting on the 2~~ , staff is wilting a little bit. Morrow: Well I am not so sure Gary if we had a staff meeting, let's say if we had it on the 23`d that it is necessary for all of staff to be there. Because we can be dealing with ordinances and those kinds of things that we are trying to get (inaudible) and ready to go. (Inaudible) Corrie; Well let's possibly think about the 23~~ or ~~na and kick it around and see where we are. Rountree: When should we get back? Carrie: Let's do it inaudible} about the 15t" to 1111111 or myself. Anything else Walt? Morrow: No sir. Corrie: Glenn? Bentley: I have a whale list of things here. The only thing that I have got is the rec center survey has gone out and starting to come back. That is all I know. Corrie: Charlie? 4 Meridian City Council January 1, X997 Page 4l Rountree: The Parks Department has asked me to bounce off and give the Council some food for thought in terms of registration fees for the park and the activities and facilities over there. At this point in time we charge a $14 registration fee flat, correct? Smith: Reservation, yes. Rountree: And that reserves a shelter. What they are seeing is that a lot of folks are hearing that and getting rather large inaudible} that is the best dea! in the country side. Compared to Boise they have a prorated charge set up for a number of people in order to take care of the additional cost associated with registration and reservation of those facilities in terms of clean up, set up, tables, what not, they have it set up by number of people, number of tables, that sort of thing. The Parks Department would like the Cauncil to consider that and possibly amend the ordinance to look at that kind of a schedule. I will get this information that Gary provided me from Boise to you for you to consider. Mlle may want to talk about that at the strategic planning meeting. Morrow. May I ask a question Mr. Mayor, could you also at that same (inaudible) have maybe a proposed fee schedule that the Parks Department would like to see as part of that package? Rountree: I am sure we could work something out.. Morrow: Then we can deal with the issue fairly quickly prior to the part of the season. Rountree: Vlle have plenty of time. But between now and the first of May. Morrow: Time slips away when you are having fun. Rountree: Gkay, first of March. The Parks and Recreation Commission would like to get a read from Cauncil on where they are about the consideration of either a part time or full time parks director? Morrow: Do you want an answer tonight? Rountree: Just a sense, not a vote of confidence. Marrow: Mr. Mayor, from my perspective I think that the Parks Department is going to b our next aggressive grawkh thing given the residential activity that we had last year with Park impact fees. I think we are within a couple of years of being able to develop the regional park at Meridian Road and Ustick. it seems to me that in this coming budget year that we aught to bring on board a full time director or parks and recreation. Probably a degreed person with recreation ar background experience. Take applications for that and have that person involved in the coordination of all of the taxpayer owned facilities and those kinds of things and it seems to me that person Meridian City Council January 1,1991 Page 48 ought to come on board as quickly as possible to implement the concept of utilizing school facilities, Western Ada Recreation Facilities and so on and so forth. Sv from my perspective I see that as a key player to be brought on as quickly as possible. Bentley: I would agree, but you are confusing me, you are talking about bringing them on now or are you talking about bringing them on next budget year? Marrow: Budget year, we can't bring them on now we have no budget far it. Bentley:l agree Rountree: To let you know where they are coming from they recognize their limitations in terms of a volunteer group. I think that a good portion of them recognize that in order far the City to be effective in that area we need somebody who can provide continuity. Sa they are very supportive of that, they would like them as soon as possible. Okay, had another item discussed at the last meeting about the city's willingness to support additional rec programs similar to the summer program but maybe something that would be in the Fall or winter, the sport that was identified was basketball. Apparently PAL has an opportunity and has same facilities identified that they were not willing to take it an as a PAL project but some of the people in that organization indicated that if the City could sponsor this in same way they could get a rec youth basketball program going. (Inaudible) Rountree: Probably very similar to the Y program. Berg: The Y Ball (inaudible) Rountree: (Inaudible) I don't know what all that would involve but I think that probably some Berg: Well most of the grade schools in Meridian School District are dealt with the YMCA Ball, girls and bays. Rountree: Right, it is Coed. Morrow: You will have to walk me through this because I don't have any expertise in it. Why do you do a basketball program if the schools are doing a basketball program, do you do that off season or different season ar what is the issue? Rountree: The issue was that apparently there was sufficient interest expressed by some publics that the programs that are out there are either limited or full. To be honest with you the Y program runs for 5 weeks. Meridian City Council January 7, ~ 99? Page 49 Berg: It varies but yes, they have staggered different age groups, girls one time and bays another time. Rountree: But any one age group I think six games which would be B weeks plus the initial practices leading up to that. I think that is what precipitated the discussion. Morrow: From my point of view it seems to me that again that is something for the next budget year but certainly if you have a full time recreation parks director it would be part of the program that he ar she would put forth as a proposal to the Council. Rountree: I agree with that, that is the guidance I will provide. That is all I have. Carrie: Mr. Taisma? Talsma: I have nothing. Carrie: I have a couple three that I need to go with. one, the Planning and Zoning Commission appointment. I discussed this with Jim Johnson and also have met with Sharon Spencer and talked with her. Consequently I would like to recommend to the Council to replace Jim Shearer with Sharon Spencer. The time would be ~ 19l to 1- ~80~. Morrow. Question, what occupation is Ms. Spencer in? Carrie: She is in building. Morrow: She is a builder? Carrie: Yes Marrow: I have a problem with that, not from the standpoint of the person, [have a problem from the standpoint with respect to it being a builder. Currently on the P & Z we have an independent businessman, we have two engineers and we have one builder, this would make a second builder. Although those are representatives of my own industry i don't think that represents a cross section of our community. I think that we need an a P & Z a designated builder seat and a designated, excuse me a designated builderldevelaper seat and a designated engineerlarchitect seat. The remaining three seats ought to be members of the general public sa that we don't get a bias of one industry in terms of haw we view and deal with these projects and haw we develop our community to represent what those that are citizens of the community truly want to have. I guess that I would vote far this person far because it is somebody willing to serve on almost any capacity but I don't think that I can honestly support that 1 Meridian City Council January 7,1991 Page 50 person with the occupation on the P & ~ at this time. It seems to me that it is unfair to the community. Corrie: Other comments? Rountree: I guess I don't feel quite as strongly as wait but I, in terms of having to establish seats ar technical levels of competence for the P & Z folks. I still think that we need a citizen representative and I think this gives us an opportunity to do that that is not represented by a group that is currently on P & Z. I don't know Ms. Spencer and if she is willing to da it I would give her a gold star. But I still, I go back to the comment I made I think the last time we made appointments for the Committees and I think the City needs to do some outreach to the community. Develop some lists of people that are interested in doing these kinds of things and have some kind of an advertised selection process so we don't get fingered as trying to direct Planning and Zoning or even try to load the Council with a group or a certain expertise. I guess I am hard pressed to vote to support this individual from a technical standpoint but their willingness speaks volumes so I am a little torn what to do. I guess I would maybe give it back to you Bab and say if you could do some research and if this is the best and most willing individual out there I will support it 100°/o but I would like to see, this is a pretty significant issue, pretty significant graup of folks that we rely an heavily that maybe now is the time that we go out and solicit same input from,the public through the Valley News, the Statesman and say we have this vacancy are there any interested folks, we are looking far a concerned citizen primarily. Corrie: I had three approach me on this and two I eliminated for obvious reasons, one was with an agenda and the other was not qualified. I was looking for somebody with an architectural background but I don't seem to have any left in town at this point. I did talk to Shannon quite a bit and she, her impression of the job was one that she wanted to help with the community. She has lived here practically all of her life I guess and ~inaudib[e}. Is she actually in the building profession as such, Jim, I don't know her that well? Marrow: She does own a building company. Johnson: U11e didn't do an e~#ensive search, we didn't advertise for candidates or people that were interested. I have known Shannon for probably ten years, llllill Berg has known her longer than that. As you know she is the daughter of Narm Fuller and sister of Chuck Fuller who are also in the building industry. But Shannon is a person who is in my opinion is her awn person and just because she comes from the building industry doesn't necessarily mean that she is going to support issues that would favor that industry in my opinion any more so than Ron Tolsma would favor his aunt and untie or wait Morrow might favor his End of Tape} Candidates that Bob has made reference to and I would agree with him in his assessment of that situation. So Bob came to me and wanted to know my opinion and whether I had any objection to her r. Meridian City Council January 1, X99? Page 5~ r serving and we did talk specifically about the fact that she would be representing the building industry. gut 1 don't see that as a total negative and that is my comments with respect to her nomination. Corrie: Thank you Jim. Rountree: 1111e1i I guess a comment, I respect Jim's endorsement or acceptance of this individual and that speaks well to me. I still would like tv see possibly some additional, some pro-active effort on the park of the City as opposed to just. 1 know when I was nominated to P & ~ it was kind of the same kind of thing, I let them know 1 was interested. There may be some people that are interested that just don't know that the opporkunity exists. Johnson: If l might, that is a good point, and I think there are two openings right now in Eagle and I knave the Eagle paper this week came out with a solicitation to the public. Anyone interested in serving on Planning and zoning, I don't think we have done that and I think that would be a good idea for the future. Corrie: l agree ~ D~°/o, the fact is that it is going to be a requirement from now on. Morrow: Mr. Mayor, if I might add, it seems to me to take Councilman Rountree's analysis a step further, it may make a lot of sense for us to advertise as a City far a pool of folk not only for this specific seat but a pool of folk in general. Then maybe put together an interview committee when we are looking at someone for a position and if we have an appropriate response the interview committee narrows it down to ~ or 3 individuals from which they recommend to the Mayor to offer one to of those tow or three to the Council far conformation and then press on from there. I am sensitive and I truly respect my dear friend and colleague Mr. Johnson's opinion concerning this person but I still think that even the perception of bias should never appear within government. Here it is a very short step to say that it is industry oriented when you have two engineers and you have two builders comprise your P & Z and that it seems to me you can justify one architect or engineer position and one builder or developer position or a person that is a combination of both for their expertise that they bring to it from a technical standpoint and then have other facets or areas of the community represented. Maybe a pool of applicants, I am sorry, maybe a poaf of those willing to serve the City in any capacity would give us a broader base from which to ask from the interview from and then pick the best available. Maybe that is what we want to look at. Johnson: I might just comment on one thing there. I think when you try to put titles on people, engineers, builders, Malcolm MacCoy is one of the engineers you are talking about, well he is a retired Lockheed engineer that had really no ties to this area until he moved here. He is really in my opinion on that committee as a citizen and his comments reflected in the minutes will reflect that. That he is concerned about the growth and life safety features of developments and I don't see anything coming from Meridian City Council January 7, 1997 Page 52 him that would even tie him to the engineering field with respect to a bias in that respect. I grant you, you have gat one engineer and now we have two builders and your paint is well taken. The only alternative I see to that is to forestall this and advertise. That might cause some problems in the short term but that is where we are at. The only discussians I have had are a couple of short discussians with Mayor Corrie. Morrow: Well in response to that it may cause same problems in the short term, but it seems to me that I would rather see a few inconveniences in the short term as opposed to a Iong term public perception issue or actual conflict issue and I think that it is time well spent in terms of broadening the pool and taking a look and seeing. It may very well be that we don't get a response and if we don't get a response from the community then what that tells me is that they don't care and in that case we will press forward with thane that are willing to serve na matter what their background or potential conflict ar bias might be. But I would like to at least give that an oppor#unity. Bentley: Mr. Mayor, could we conceivably da some advertising and maybe have this before us at our next meeting? Do you think we could get responses that quick? Carrie: I think you are probably rushing it a bit. By the time we get it in the paper. I have to agree with Mr. Johnson, I think you have an excellent candidate here, she is willing to serve regardless of whether she is in the building industry or if she is a homeowner. She knows the community, she has the community at heart and talking with her a couple three times she wants to da something far the community. I really feel that whether she is a builder ar not a builder has nothing to do with this. And if you are going to say how does the public look at this how would the public Iook at this that you are turning dawn a woman. So you can put a Iot of emphasis on this thing. But having talked with Shannon I don't get the same feeling that Mr. Morrow is getting that you have two builders on the Committee. I think Jim is correct, I think we need to [oak at them as individuals. As far as the public is concerned I don't think they are going to Iook at it #hat way, I could be wrong but so could Mr. Morrow be wrong. But I think that talking with her she was very wanting to do this. She has the community at heart and I dust, I also brought to her attention that with her family being in the building industry it doesn't have anything to do with her opinions of what she would do to the City and she said absolutely not. !think Jim Johnson also felt the same way by talking with her as well. I thinkwe need to either Bentley: Mr. Mayor, what has been said here tonight, I am going to go ahead and make the motion that we accept your nomination of Shannon Spencer to the position of P & Z. Rountree: I will second Meridian Gity Council January 1, ~gg~ Page 53 Carrie: Motion has been made by Mr. Bentley, second by Mr. Rountree to accept Shannon Spencer as the new appointee far the Planning and Zoning Commission, any further discussion? Ali those in favor? apposed? TI E VOTE: 2 YEA, ~ NAY Corrie: Okay so we have two to two, since I nominated her I think the obvious answer would be that I approve her as an appointment to the Planning and Zoning Commission. Morrow: Mr. Mayor, point of order, Grookston: Yvu do need to vote though. Corrie: !said that I voted for Shannon Spencer. Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I think there is a point of order here, I don't think that by State Statute an an appointment that there is tie breaking vote. I think the State Statute requires that any appointment garner a ~/ plus 1 majority of the Cauncil. So I think on a tie vote the nomination fails. Corrie: If that be the case then that would have to show that it does fail then. Counselor? Crookston: I believe that Councilman Morrow is correct, but if we have a minute ! would like to go look at the book. If you will give me a minute I do that. Carrie: You cerkainly can and I have some other things I need to bring up while you are doing that. Vve will wait for that one to see which way we go with that. There was also in your box a request that I made for transfer of funds from one account, Shari Stiles account far secretary account to be put in the Mayor's account far a secretary on Anita. She is answering about 45 to 5g phone calls a day far me, she is getting pulled in a lot of different directions. Talking with Janice she would like to have her, to work in the delinquency files which she is doing a gaol fob there. Also daing same of the things, the work that I need to be done and follow through far me. So I guess my request for Council in the letter was if we could transfer the moneys that was not used by the Planning and Zoning for the secretary and also for part of the Assistant Planning and Zoning is that carrect, which is actually $52go, excuse me that has not been used with the transfer of the $14ag to take care of the secretarial function for the Mayor at this time to help me get some of my work done. Rauntree: Mr. Mayan, I believe in the preparation of the budget that the secretary and the Assistant P & Z person were pretty specific items that the Cauncil wanted the Planning and Zoning Administrator to get after and get hired to take care of the work Meridian City Council January ~, 1997 Page 54 load in that area. I stiff am convinced that we need the help and we need to get an with hiring those people. I am not at this paint favorable of manipulating the budget, taking away from the Planning and honing requirement. I understand your need but I am not real supportive of the area in the budget where you find the money. l guess my comment to Shari is you need to get with it and get those people hired. (Inaudible) Rountree: Illlell get them hired and we will find a place. Morrow: Mr, Mayor,l have a question, currently this, currently she is working and being paid through the sewer and water inaudible} and what you are proposing is that she is not going to be 50°/0 office of the Mayor and 50°la which office? Corrie:ln with the delinquency accounts and the accounts payable. Marrow: okay, so that would be stilt that half funded from there. Let me ask you guys this when 1 was lacking at the budget trying to figure out haw to do this. Twa things in the first couple of lines popped out at me. one was as Councilmen and Commissioners each of us has $104a by which on an annual basis to spend far AIC and any other functions that we as Councilman may attend or for educational things and sa an and so Earth. That totals $4QO0, for same reason in the budget there is $SQQD in that account. 1Ne could take $1 QQQ out of that account and put it back to $~QOQ where it belongs, don't knawwhy $5QaQ is there. Corrie: You mean the total? Morrow. The total for the four Councilmen is $5000 and it should be $4000. Here it is line item 2 under administrative where it says legislative and administration Council travel and meetings, Council. Historically we have had $1000 per Council seat so that is $5000 and it should be $4000. Corrie: Well it was approved for $5000 Rountree: Well there is a place to find $1000 Morrow. There is a place to find $1000, the next thing is Berg: Do you want to know why, that was presented to you at the AIC conference in Sun Valley which was a higher (inaudible) Marrow: Ullhen we went to the leadership conference in Sun Va11ey l think that we only spent $1 QQ a piece for that 2 days in there. So there is a potential far savings, Then the other item 1 looked was the same thing travel and meetings for the Mayor, before Mayor Kingsford last year in office that amount was $~Q4Q per year. His last year it was l,. Meridian City Council January ?',1997 Page 55 bumped to $4000 for special events and so on and so forth because of the last year. As I understand it, it was supposed to revert back to $2000, it is currently listed as $5000, I guess the question that I would ask there is that if $2000 is adequate we could pick up another $3000 there for a total of $4000 that we could get out of those two areas that we have direct control. Then fund the rest of the salary requirements from some of the unused portions of jobs that was supposed to be filled that were supposed to have been filled based on October first hiring that haven't occurred. Corrie: That is where this was originally coming from, is that her salaries were set at $13ao a month for secretary and $~50g a month far assistant. If you take those October, November, December, January which hasn't been used, it comes out to $15,~DU if you go back and say we are going to hire them with what you approve you are going to hire a secretary at $130 a month and you assistant at $~SUD so then it comes out. I guess I can't fallow your reasoning, you are going to take it out of one why can't you take it out of the other. And you said that the Mayor's was going back to $29DO I don't recall that ever being, going from $4gOg to $ZQ00, where did that came from? Morrow: When we approved the budget for Mayor Kingsford's last year, finro years ago. We approved a bump up from $2000 to the $4000 for ceremonial things and then it was to revert back to the $2000 after the expiration of that last year. Corrie: Why was it to go back to $2000 if it went up to $4000 with him? Morrow. Well it was to go up to $4000 with him for the events of the last year because of special events that may have occurred or were going to occur. And then as a normal course of business it would go back to the $2000 and remain the same as the Councilmen's deal which was $1000 per Councilman per year and the Mayor's office was $2000 per year. And so Carrie: vllelE you have a better memory than I da. Marrow: vVhen I was looking for money I guess to fallow up on Shari, I am sorry On Charlie's point, is that if we take all of that money we may have to hire positions for Shari at slightly higher which some of that money would be available to that. I am simply looking to say here is maybe $4oUU that can maybe reduce the impact on those salary ranges that were budgeted. with the contributions of us elected officials to fund the position that is all. Carrie: I would certainly hope you don't knock the Mayor's down to $~ago because there are a lot of things that we are going to be needing at the end of the year. Since yvu have control of that park let's leave it. You are going to have to make an adjustment then again if you increase the secretarial and the $~5gg to the assistant. was dust looking at the same thing you were trying to figure out where it is going to Meridian City Council January 7, 1997 Page 56 come from. We were inaudible} combination of secretary for both her and I and we didn't figure that would work out real well because she was probably inaudible} at the same time so it doesn't work out that way. Yau are still, I would recommend the Council does not take that Mayor's travel down to $2gQ0 and meetings. 1 think you are really cutting me off pretty short far what I am having to do now. I can see same things coming down the read that is going to require me to be out of town and unless you want me to take it out of my own pocket which I will have to do you are going to run into a few problems with ~~gQQ. Mvrraw: Well I don't know that $~QDa is a number, I am simply going by where it was we needed to get same money, Maybe ~2QOQ isn't the number, maybe $3QQ0 is the number and we can still pick up a couple thousand to help fund the position inaudible}. I don't know what that number is but that was an obvious place to start looking for money. Corrie: I guess it could be, I was just looking in a different place. Bentley: Well I think we will have to transfer some funds from somewhere to fund the position and if everybody is in agreement to fund the position then we can go ahead and take a look at where we are going to pick it up. It is quite obvious the works there. Morrow; We fund the position we also develop a job description and a salary range and so on and so forth and get that inserked into the personnel manual. That is a technicality. Will? Berg: 1 didn't know of this memo or any of this paperwork, I would like to have time to look through the budget and see what I could propose to you as far as suggestions an how to transfer some funds. I think that was part of my job description and I would like, there are other costs involved not just the salary, there are other costs of benefits that have to be pulled vut and things like that. Marrow: I think then in order to delegate some responsibility from my perspective that is a good job for you. You fund out how the position is funded and you get the position in place, and we will press on from there. Talsma: Will you write the jab description and the salary range too while you are at it's Bentley: And find another desk. Berg: There is a card table down stairs that I am very familiar with the first couple months of my position. €f.: l Meridian City Council January 7, X991 Page 5l Morrow: To move along, I don't have any problem with the position ! think ~inaudible~ it is VUiI!'s project, part of his job description to end the funding far the position and make a recommendation taus and let's press on from my standpoint. Carrie: Counselor, what did you find out? Crookston: I will give you the short version, 5g-2o5, refusal to confirm appointments - vacancies. If the City Council shall refuse to confirm any nominations the Mayor shat! then within ten days thereafter nominate another person to fill the office and he may continue to nominate until his nominee is confirmed. If the Mayor fails to make another nomination for the same office within the ten days after the refection of an nominee the City Council shall appoint a suitable person to fill the office during the term. The affirmative vote of ~/ plus ~ of the members of the full Council sha!! re required to confirm any nomination made by the Mayor. whenever a vacancy shall occur in the appointive office the vacancy for the unexpired term shall be filled by appointment in the same manner as the original appointment. So it is ~/z plus ~. Corrie: So in ten days I have to come up with another one, is that the way it reads? Crookston: That Corrie: (Inaudible) Morrow: Well it says in ten days and at the expiration then the Council can come up with an appointee on its own. I think from my standpoint that is not something that I would support that the Council come up with somebody on their own. My concept would be and I would be supportive of the advertisement and the pool and drawing from that what the person would be. Corrie: That is going to take more than ten days. Morrow: I understand that Bob, what I am indicating to you is that I would not be supportive of the Council at day eleven appointing ar voting to appoint somebody to the position, ~lllhat I want to see if that the case is that we develop a pool and interview from the pool and ga from there. Carrie: 1lllell we can develop a peal, I am going to give you another name in less than ten days though, you can count on that. In between time we can make advertisement far people coming on board and you can refuse that again until we get somebody we want to do. I don't, I think that you need to have another nominee presented to you within ten days. !will make the announcement to the press and see who comes up with it. See who comes up asking, so that takes care of that. Morrow: tilllell the question !have, are we going to run an add soliciting volunteers far the vacant P & Z position the same as the City of Eagle has done? Meridian City Council January 7, 1997 Page 58 Carrie: If that is what you are wanting that is what we will do. I had ane other question, a citizen, I guess this is you Mr. Morrow. What about rest rooms in the back nine of the golf course, are there any plans for that? Morrow: !t is my understanding from Mr. Lavan that there is ane on the front nine, a public rest room on the back nine. Corrie: Does he know where those are going or anything like that? Marrow: I have not seen a plan for that, I think that is part in partial of the coming club house plan. There are also public rest rooms in the club house plan. Corrie: Are we gaing to get a report, we need a report of what is going an out there. What has gone on, moneys that are spent and moneys that have came in, can you get that report? Morrow: We will be having a final committee meeting to put together all of those issues we have one contract with which to let today and that was discussed today which is the head works project for the culverts that have been installed in the ditch system. So we will be soliciting bids for that head works system and that will be the final contract that we are letting. As scan as we have that let or have that ready to let then we will have our final meeting with our final figures and have an entire cost break down for each member of the Council. Corrie: And you anticipate that to be when? That next meeting you are having. Morrow: It will be within the next 3~ days, it will probably be the first of second Monday in February will be where we would naturally fall. Corrie: I have one other question !guess, it tames out that Mr. Johnson is also up for Planning and Zoning appointment. Is that correct Jim you are up as well. Morrow: So I would move to approve the appointment of Jim Johnson to seat ane of the P & Z for the term of four years. Corrie: Well in al! due respects, let's don't do one or the other. !think Jim is great bu# you are gaing to have it both ways here. Morrow: How is that? Carrie: You are asking far an appointment on the Board to have them come in and da advertising and Jim even though I #hink !want him there, you are saying he doesn't have to do that. Now which way are you gaing to go here's Meridian City Council January 1, 1991 Page 59 Marrow: That is correct because in my opinion he is a qualified applicant, he is not an applicant he is a reappaintrnent to an existing position. He is not a new appointment and so that is the difference between a reappointment and a new appointment. Cowie: Does the rest of the Council feel that way? Rountree: Well first off I haven't heard his name put into consideration as a nomination, I don't think it would be unwise to look at folks that are interested and let people know that the appointment is there. But I think the fact that Mr. Johnson has been the Chairman of Planning and Zoning for a number of years and has experience and I guess it is kind of up to him. If it is a reappointment and he is willing and it is a nomination an the part of the Mayor I would not be hesitant to vote knowing his background and having worked with him. Cowie: Well I am going to at this point I have talked to Jim and I am going to nominate him for reappointment far Chairman of the Planning and Zoning. I just want to make sure that we are all an the same field here and I approve him 100°/0, that is far sure. So the second appointment which we were discussing we have five people and two of them are carving up at the same time we didn't quite figure that out, the City Clerk is trying to figure out how that happened. But I will, I am going to put Jim Johnson's name up far reappointment and ask the City Council for your approval. Morrow: Mr. Mayor, question, I have seen the document that Will is trying to derive the information from which is to say the least highly confusing. Would it maybe make same sense to identify these as Seat #1 and so that we know that Seat #1 runs from January 1 or 21997 through January ~, 2003 and so that if he should decide to leave it would be fairly simple to identify the amount of time that an appointee would have to serve for that seat. I n the book that Wi l! is dealing with it just has names, it doesn't have as near as I can tell seat designation. Rountree: I think that would be a goad housekeeping measure. Berg: After looking through some of the historical documents far P & Z from times that they had six members of the Commission to times that the whale Commission resigned and people being moved up from being elected to Council and taking aver seats it is kind of a jumbled mess and I am trying to review that. But I think the seat concept of knowing this seat gees from this year to year and if you have to have somebody appointed to fulfill the rest of the seat it is easier to keep track of. I am still trying to find out how we got five members in a six year span to be reappointed or come to appointment on the same year, (_ Meridian City Council January 7, 1997 Page 60 Morrow: Maybe to help clarify the situation is that we do this seat for six years, we do the next seat that we need to fill for 5 years and then that starts the rotation or something like that Berg; After I figure out maybe where that odd year is then we can nominate it that way. Carrie: ~11e will pu# seat ~ as his seat, Jim Johnson's seat. Seat ~ is up for reappointment or appointment and under the circumstances I have reappointed him as Planning and Zoning Chairman, I will need to have a confirmation of the Council. Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I would move that we confirm the appointment of Jim Johnson to be Chairman of P & Z far seat ~ far a six year term. Bentley: Second Crookston: May l make a comment, i am gaing to have to look at the law again, but l think the Commission itself decides on who the Chairman is. Corrie: we will put Rountree: I think he is right and I don't think there are gaing to be any changes. Corrie: The motion, do you want to redo the motion Mr. Morrow? Morrow: If Mr. Bentley will withdraw? Bentley: 1Nithdrawn Marrow: I would like to re-move that we Confirm the appointment of Jim Johnson to seat #~ for a six year term to the Planning and Zoning Commission of the City of Meridian. Bentley: Second Carrie: Motion made and seconded, all those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: All Yea Carrie; Jim would you da me a favor and see that they appoint you again, I will personally get a hold of each one of their lapels and talk to them if you don't mind. Johnson: (Inaudible) Corrie: I will entertain a motion we adjourn. t ~, Meridian City ~ouncif January 1, ~ 99~' Page ~~ Rountree: So moved Tofsma: Second Corrie: Motion made and seconded we adjourn, afl those in favor? Opposed? MOTION CARRIED: Aff Yea MEETING ADJOURNED AT ~ ~ :~Q P.M. (TAPE ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS) APPROVED: RT IJ. CORRf E, MAYOR ATTEST: ~~~~~~r~~t ~~ rE~~rr j~,{~~~ ~ ~ ~y~,~ ~ ~ ~}~~~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~~ ~f r UVILLIAM G. BERG JR. C ERK~ ~ "~: .. ,~ ~, .~ ~. ~. ~~~ ~. ~ ~ i ~ ~ s r '~ t ~ ~ f~~ ~ ~ ~~~ ~~~h~{ 4 ~~~~~w~ ~~r~xt~~~ t~~t~;~~ MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL - AGENDA TUESDAY, JANUARY 7, 1997 - 7:30 P. M. CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS ~'IGZ~GLQ~lj"Q,~~iLt~'~i~'n~ ~v ~/»2.1~ f'~i.e6~/t.eiL ~ /'~anhiYzo/ SE~on/~~-q `~~ ""'aK-~i:.r.~x~, - . MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING HELD DECEMBER 17, 1996: ~~~y~~ 1. TABLED DECEMBER 17, 1996: MOUNTAIN VIEW EQUIPMENT COMPANY: REQUEST HOOKUP TO CITY WATER AT 700 W. OVERLAND ROAD: r~Pl~r~,~e al~aw ~~ ~>Ls~a.~~2 ~~--e s~~ .hl~l~v~i~ ~v ~~~ ~zv~.~ e~-~e~~ /2 , t~~~ /~~ 2. TABLED DECEMBER 17, 1996: REQUEST FOR ANNEi~;TION AND ZONING ~ u~Pr~- FOR HIGHLANDS RANCH SUBDII/ISION BY GEM PARK 11 b~'~~Z PARTNERSHIP: ~vi~h~l~aw ~ra~- ~i~'J~ ~~Qhda1 as ~-e~ ~zpro%cc~,.tr ~-~'~~~d~~ 3. AMENDED FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR NEW/USED R.V. SALES (SERVICE FACILITY BY ZAMZOWS: ~P~ /~y'~ G~/nen dzGL- ~2'~r en a'~Q -~/~ ~ C!%G Gz~P~JI'?~ve Cfx?~'~ fiarJ 4. FINAL PLAT FOR ASHFORD GREENS SUBDIVISION NO. 2 BY BRIGHTON CORPORATION: ~~~I`-at~.~ Gv'i~~• Cm2~i~-ii~n~- 5. PUBLIC NEARING CONTINUED FRDM DECEMBER 17, 1996: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING TO C-C BY CHERRY PLAZA ASSOCIATES: aPprov~ ~/~ ~~fc w~~h ~~~ehd~eh~s in.rf~-i~ct C~ ~c,tt~ ~:n e~ ~ ~o /'-~~o a ~.~ d2 c~ih a n cv 6. PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUED FROM DECEMBER 17, 1996: REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY/FINAL PLAT FOR FIRST STREET PLAZA BY CHERRY PLAZA ASSOCIATES: Q~Upb/~~'.e- ~v:~-~i cv`c~i~,anr 7. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A VACATION OF FARMINGTON ESTATES NO. 2 PLAT AND STREETS RY ED BEWS: ~yy~-~~,.-~ vr~ca-f~~ 8. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A REZONE FROM R-4 TO L-O; PARKING FOR NE!N MERIDIAN LIBRARY BY MERIDIAN FREE LIBRARY DISTRICT: u.~p~-av~ ~l~'~C/G w~~~ a~.~ar~~.~ tZ~~lrove a°2ci~fio>v ~~~ ~.~"favzc~ {v ~D~,oare o~-d~~,a~ce~ 9. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A REZONE FROM R-4 TO C-C FOR AN ANT'QUE, CRAFT AND COLLECTIBLE SHOP BY EUGENE PETER. ~~rv~e ~~~ ~ ~ ~L ~~~-~ a~ e~~~~.-Y ~~p~-ov:e cl.~eifro~ ~i az` ne,J ~v /3-~ei°a're. ~'tdii~,a~Lce~ 10. PUBLIC HE RING: REC~UEuT FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE LAKE AT CHERRY LANE SUBDI ISION NO. 7 BY STEINER DEVELOPMENT: ~~7~i~u~e.: ,C/~~:~, ,~~,,,1_ 2~~r ~2 ~ .. ~, 11. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THE LAKE AT CHERRY LANE N0. 7 BY STEiNER DEVELOPMENT: C'~n~/~,r,~,e ~'/~ ~i~7 ~~. 2~ j fit f~, 12. MARTY GOLDSMITH: DISCUSSION OF SALMON RAPIDS NO. 3: G~i'd Gu.s~ib~- an ~c~,. ~1 ~ ~f~ 13. WATER/SEWER/TRASH DELINQUENCIES: ~~~-vve.~ 14. APPROVE BILLS: ~~~vve- 15. DEPARTMENT REPORTS: A. MAYOR CORRIE: 1. PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION APPOINTMENT: a~ .~~.~~~ ~- ~~~ Gesell ~t7 a~~rove ~'` Cf13; 4/7. 9~ b y L~lni~~~r, .Tnc', ~z. 6 ~-ea~..r- MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL MEETING: .lanua l ~ 99l APPLICANT: ITEM NUMBER; ~3 REQUEST: waterlSewerlTrash Delia uencies AGENCY COMMENTS CITY CLERK: CITY ENGINEER: CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR: CITY ATTORNEY: CITY POLICE DEPT: CITY FIRE DEPT: CITY BUILDING DEPT: ~ MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT: ~ MERIDIAN POST OFFICE: ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT: ADA COUNTY STREET NAME COMMITTEE: CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH: NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION: SETTLERS IRRIGATION: IDAHO POWER: US WEST: INTERMOUNTAIN GAS: BUREAU OF RECLAMATION: OTHER: All Materials presented at public meetings shall become property of the City of Meridian. t' , " !-~ ~, ~ . DELINQUENCY FAR TURNI~FF SCHEDULED FAR C~ ~-~ d~'' ~ MAYI}R. This is to inform you in writing, if you choose ta, you have the right to a Pre-determination hearing at I _ ~ ~ ~ ~~ before the Mayor and. the Ci . tY Council to appear ~n person to be fudged on the facts and defend the claim made by this City that your water, sewer and trash bill is delinquent. You ma retain y counsel. This service will be discontinued on ~ ~- ~ .~ ,unless payment is received in full. Is there anyone present who wishes to contest their water, sewer and trash delinquency? No response. MAYI~R. They are hereby informed that they may appeal or have the decision of the City reviewed by the Fourth Judicial District Court, pursuant to Idhao Code. Even thqugh they appeal, their water will be shut off' The amount of the turn off list is~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~ `~~~~ ~~ ~ e~~` ~~~';~°~ r' DELINQUENCY LIST TURN OFF FDR 01/08/97 ACCOUNT# NAME & ADDRESS 1-10 CHARLES MADSEN 725 MERIDIAN ST 1-770 THOMAS DEUBER 511 BRDAD~AY AV ~ 1-590 STAN LANTZ 608 3RD ST ~V 1-1330 KAY LDUISE ESTES 813 3RD ST '~V 1-1810 GLADYS CLYMENS 729 ~V IDAHO AV 1-3310 EMIL & ESTHER BRINCKEN 711 ~ PINE AV , 1-3 660 SHELLIE F 411 MERIDIAN RD 1-443 0 HELEN RA~LEY 850 ~ FRANKLIN RD 2-710 BLAKE & KERRY KESNER 92011TH ST'~V 2-920 LAURA V~EAVER 13 50 CLARINDA ST ~V 2-950 RITCHIE & SUSAN AYTHI'~VAITE 1442 STATE ST ~V 2-952 TIMOTHY THOMAS 1464 STATE ST ~ 2-958 TINA HENDRICKS~N 915 14TH ST N~JV ~I AMOUNT 80.70 86.89 53.48 47.28 47,28 139.40 54.18 183.52 81.40 37.20 78.91 63.83 69.10 2- ~ ~ 60 DZON STATES 3 7 CHERRY AV W ~-1170 KENT & SUSAN CAMPDSAN 13 04 I ST ST W 2-1250 ELIZABETH WEAKLEY 15281ST ST W 2- I6I0 DENICE DESILET 1502 2ND ST W 2- 1690 E RALPH NASH 16162NDSTW 2-1960 DONALD DICKSaN 233 MAPLE AV VLF 2-1970 KERRY CARSON 22 5 MAPLE AV VLl 2-2290 JAN~S RICH 1230 2ND ST W 2-2350 DIANA HARPER I26 ~VASHINGTDN AV W 2-2490 DEENA L PATTERSDN 3 3 0 CHERRY AV 2-4760 RICHARD MADER 142214TH ST W 2-4940 SHARRDN HILL ' 153715TH ST W 2-5310 ~ PENNY MCCATHRDN 1533 ELM PLACE 2-53 50 SAMUEL MCEVDY 143 9 ELM PLACE 6s.97 124.96 54,97 99.58 115.95 51.93 62.68 61.92 49.25 102.69 52.43 70-67 67.32 87.62 2-5410 2-603 0 2-63 00 2-63 80 Z-6440 3-6 3 ~29Z 3-298 3-370 4- ~ 774 4-2168 4-2200 ~-23 04 I9-Z8 SHERRI ELIADES ~ ~ ~ •~~ 1434 ELM PLACE TDM KR.ASOWSKI ~ 00. SZ 10 ~ 712TH AV VV PATRICIA ANSON 101.52 1203 8TH ST W STEVE G NON R 56.91 908 WASHINGTON DR W FREDRICK J SHA.DDICK 88.52 ~ 002 'WASHINGTON DR W STEVEN JOHNSON 62.20 2040 SLATON DR ~V ROD SHURT~ 200.23 2195 SNYDER DR W DAVID R KING 93.79 2137 SNYDER DR W HARVEY MARTIN 90.06 728 ROTAN AV N GARY GEYER 68.90 2588 ~W WILLARD ST LON ST.CLAIR 140.39 1849 SANTA CLARA DR W LUCREZIA BLAYE 69.43 ~ 702 SANTA CLARA DR V~ RUSSELL KOYLE 106.34 1515 SANTA ROSA PL N ROBERT GILBERT 79.54 3 864 HARBOR POINT DR r r _. ,.. . 1 ~r 20-1486 CHARLES H[JFF 60.74 3552 TUPELO CT W 20-1682 ROBERT STOTTS 174.00 3659 WOODMONT DR 20-1692 STEVEN REDS 136.52 3674 WOQDMONT DR 20-1726 NANCY MESROP 87.58 2110 SCIOTO PL N 20-1774 STEPHEN & AMY WESTON 90.72 3732 STANWICH DR W 20-1890 RONALD LiJKESH 113.53 1971 INTERLACHEN WY 20-2054 FREDRICK RUTH 148.70 3419 SUGAR CREEK DR 21-42 TANYA RAMSEY 70.97 2006 KRISTEN WY 21-220 SCOTT NEELY 60.63 2795 QUARRYSTONE WY N 21-234 DOUGLAS CRAEGER 142.55 2796 QUARRYSTONE WY N 21-506 TRACIE FULK 84.49 2846 QUARRYSTONE WY N 21-582 MARJ4RIE CHANCE ~ 99,18 2606 PEBBELSTGNE CT ~V 21-1068 JDHN Y ~ 92,'86 2748 V~H~TESTGNE CT ~ 21-1102 ERIK BEAL 151.30 2701 QLD STDNE IVY N 21-11 ab BRIAN EDGERT4N 2bb 1 COLD STONE WY N 21-1174 DAVID TWADDEL 2492 CHATEAU DR ~ 7b 21 11 MICHAEL ARMSTRONG 251 a CHATEAU DR ~ 21-1712 MELA~IIE DAME S 2245 LEANN WY 21-175a NANCY SMITH 1915 KRISTEN WY 21-177a YVC~NNE DESIND 194I MSRIANNA PL 21- 1772 JAN D MANIER 1911 MARIANNA PL 21-1784 SHARRDN ANDERSEN 2551 JEFFREY CT 21-1894 CLINTt}N B T 258a MISTY DR 21.1834 BRUCE BAILEY 2594 REBECCA WY 21-1934 DARICE BEHRENDT 2b 12 MISTY DR 21-20b8 ~ JEFFREY & PAMELA PUGMIRE 3a15 ANN ST ~V 21-2a82 ~ DANIEL THIBADEAU 2997 STEPHANIE CT ~ Z 1-2122 PHYLLIS NIXUN 1745 MDRELL4 AV N 21-Z 194 PATRICK WILDS 74.81 98.~b 345.a7 57.33 47.28 123.81 93.84 82.24 127.72 l1a.23 b4.35 b9.13 82.38 9b.ab 57.84 3073 KANDICE ST W Z1-2920 KEVIlV CROFTS 2931 ELK STREAM ST W ZZ-31 Z STEVEN M~ CANTRELL 1750 CHATEAU DR ZZ-978 RANDY DILLDN ZZ40 MARBURG PL N ZZ-13 5 0 . GAYLEN C~WGER 1956 MCGLINCHEY ST W ZZ-13 54 R~DNEY WILLIAMS 1905 MONACO WY ZZ-1356 MARVIN KERBS 1983 HENDRICKS CT ZZ-1396 WILLIAM AVERY 1967 CAIRNS WY ZZ-1420 DUANE DAVENPORT 1719 MCGLINCHEY ST W ZZ-1574 ROBERT TALBERT 1895 CHATEAU DR W 31-176 JaHN DBERBUB~R 1912 12TH ST NW 31-154 TRACEY BENNETT 19481 ZTH ST NW 31-516 MICHAEL JARRETT 1542 STOREY AV 151.13 109.35 87.26 93.80 93.39 185.57 13 0.45 55.10 68.46 60.6 75.25 110.12 31-60 S MICHAEL WALKER 1.18.3 7 1333 NEWPORT DR 31-755 ELWDDD CHENEY 15 21 TANA DR 31-880 DENNIS NICK 1512 CHATEAU DR AV W 31- 1005 STEVEN SWEAT 1493 DARRAH DR 3 I -1274 JAMES CALLISON 2bb212TH ST W 3 I -2220 MATHEW MITCHELL ' Zb8413TH ST NW 31-2250 ANOTONIA GARCIA 1382 DARRAH DR 3I-2282 JACK FIESELMAN 2802 14TH ST NW 3I-3018 FORREST SCHUSTER 221814TH ST NW 31-3 3 52 DEBORAH DUGGER 227210TH AV NW 3 I -3 3 92 ARTHUR B OYLE 1074 DELMAR DR 31-3402 LYNN BASURA 225211TH AV NW 31-3414 DAVID STINGER 1053 FAIR"L~OOD CT 31-3420 JULIA COUCH I012 FAIRWOOD CT 31-3 528 JACK TEATER 193 811TH AV NW 32-43b MARK BROWNING 71.23 I27~59 bd.89 99:34 5 I.34 I53,d3 95.dI 125,.b7 54.54 58.20 48.28 55 , 05 75, 59 154.35 105.59 ~ 916 8TH ST N~V 32-792 RICHARD CHRISTIAN 23 75 GAL~TAY DR N 32-8 ~ 8 LINDA LOU O~SLEY 3 62 WII,LO~BROOK DR ~V 32-872 ROGER BECKER 671 TIFFANY DR 33-328 LEONARD EVANS 1970 MERIDIAN RD~ N 33- ~ 858 COREY BARYON BUILDERS 2453 EUREKA AV N 3 3 -2414 VL~ALTER DAVI S 601 COUGAR DR E 3 3 -3 646 ANTHONY E~ELL 409 BALD'L~IN ST E 33-4278 DONALD LANDON~ 3 50 ~OODBURY DR E 3 3 -43 46 RON HOLLOWAY 2531 LARCHMpNT AV N 33-4348 CHARLES KINGSTON 2536 TUSCAN AVN 34-592 TODD ELLIS 2328 A1ViETHYST AV N 34-812 KARL KAUTZ ' 229510TH AV NE 3 ~+-914 DONALD AMYX 12 51 HUNTER DR E 34-1036 RONALD LANDON 1285 HUNTER DR E 34-1318 ROBERT TOFFELMIER 112.23 94.44 108.5$ 123.29 86.62 55.64 49.58 47.28 59.75 73.79 70.79 50.87 98.29 162.28 88.95 2627 sNa~v ~aaSE wY N 34-1755 KEITH KLINE 112.57 2257 LARK A'~ N 34-1846 ERMINE DAMS 99.23 1014 CLAYBaIJRNE DR 34-1976 MARJa LACRaI~ ~ 105.83 1028 CLARENE ST 34-1952 RDDGER RaDRIUUE~ 94.30 95 S CLARENE ST 34-2104 ~ HEIDI TYLER 94.54 1034 TAMMY ST 34-2126 DANA K GRIGCs 67.74 1015 CLARENE ST 3 4-2128 JaN KI~I~rHT 13 5 :44 1425 CLARENE ST 42-452 THaMAS J4RGENSEN 75.56 2409 GRAPEV~aaD DR E 42-465 KYLE H~L 85.67 2561 CrRAPEVL~aaD DR E 42-1970 HERBERT MACHULE 326.84 1910 MEADa~ ~VaaD ST E 42-274D 1 .,.. _ f KEVIN BLAIR _ _ ~. ~ 53,24 1843 E MEADQWGRASS CT 46-46$ KEVIN B~RCHARDT 55.64 1071 N FILLM~RE 'IIVY 50-12 PAUL SMITH 61.2$ 29 E STATE AVE 5D-218 RANDY 21ZZ0 49:74 31 ~ E STATE ST 5D-262 SCQTT MURRI 59.14 12 E STATE ST . 50-354 DENNIS CARSTENSE $$,g1 416 E CARLTQN AVE 50-1254 ROBERT SPENCER 7D, 5$ 1323 2112 ST E 5D-1742 ELMQRE BRDDKS 47,2$ 1332 MERIDIAN ST 50-2106 RICHARD RDBINSDN 53.$3 127$ N STONEHENGE UVY :~ ~ ~-~~'42 KEN TODD 111.00 1159 E SHELLBR~OK DR 50-4226 R & ~ HOIViES 63.56 1025 N KI LLDARE PL 50-4274 DOUGLAS HADLEY JR 84.23 1029 N STONEHENGE UVY 50-44$2 JOHNNY & HELEN I~IEYER 82.55 526 E PINE AVE 50-4522 SHELBY UGARRIZA 152.56 412 E PINE ST 51-398 FARII~ERS & MERCHANTS .146:63 703E 1ST ST 51-3154 DONALD CORNELIUS 45.97 111E 3RD ST 51-3330 DOROTHY MATTIVI 53.34 205 E KING ST 1- 70 CINDI ATINOOD 70.66 5 33 223E 3RD ST 51-3680 DALE BLAKE 50.97 331E 1ST ST 51-3930 RICHARD I~IILLER 75.40 4D2 E 2ND ST 51-4230 BOB PLATEN 47.65 349 E BONER ST 52170 EARL CORYELL 47.28 41 E FRANKLIN 65-224 ALISON PERRY 62.80 2440 S M R TI N K PL 55-20 DAREN RIVADENEYRA 56.66 2419 S RU BY RAPIDS PL 69-64 TDDD ZIEGLER ~ 83.21 2D57 S WEIMARANER INAY 69-558 RDGER JUDGE 82,DD 11 Dl E SHEPHERD ST 69-59D MDNTGGfVIERY BAPTISTS 119.DD 1384 E BDRZGf ST 69-6D8 STEVEN l~GREY 93.DD 18D7 S SWAN AVE 69-2298 DIANE LANG 37.91 1$95 S NIARSHINUDD PL 72-156 DAVID WEIL 121.75 2D17 S CDVEY PL 74-356 JQE WILSQN 55.43 692 HANDVER CT 74-1 D84 EDWARD NEALE ~ g5,62 1 D21N 1ST ST - 74-2476 STEPHANIE ATCHISaN 63,7,4 1358 IN lGMRA ST 74-254D LaNNIE GAMMEL 5D, 28 12D~' UY KII~ RA ST 74-27D8 EUGENE RDSS 53.$8 94D CRESTWQDD DR 74-3D96 DAVID I{DPET 90, 29 1D751N EGRET DR 74-32D6 REGENCY CQNST 57,26 822 ~1 GREENHEAD ST 74.3238 DEBRA RULE 71.56 1134 W GREENHEAD DR 74-324$ RIChIARD GARNER 76.26 495 S PELICAN WY 69-64 TODD ZIEGLER $3.21 2057 S WEIMARANER VtIAY 69-568 ROGER JUDGE 52.00 11 a7 E SHEPHERD ST 6g-5gp MONTGOMERY BAPTISTS 119.40 13$4 E BORZOI ST ~g-6p$ STEVEN MOREY 93.00 1 Sal S SWAN AVE 69-2295 D1ANE LANG 37.91 1 S95 S MARSHWOOD PL 72-156 DAV[D WEIL 121.75 2017 S COVEY PL 74-356 JOE WILSON 55.43 692 HANOVER CT 74-1084 EDWARD NEALE 95.62 1 aZ UV 1ST ST 74-2476 STEPHANIE ATCHISON 63.7.4 1355 W KIMRA ST 74-2540 LONNIE GAMMEL 54. ZS 1207 W KIMRA ST 74-2748 EUGENE ROSS 53.88 944 CRESTINOOD DR 74-3496 DAVID KOPET 90.29 1 075 W EGRET DR 74-3206 REGENCY CO~VST 67.26 $2Z W GREENHEAD ST 74-3238 DEBRA RULE 71.56 11341A~ GREENHEAD DR 74-3248 RICHARD GARNER 76.26 495 S PELT CAN WY 69-64 TODD ZIEGLER 83.27 2457 S UI~EIMARANER 'WAY 69-568 RDGER JUDGE 82.44 1147 E SHEPHERD ST 69-590 MDNTGDII~ERY BAPTISTS 119.44 1384 E BQRZ41 ST 69-605 STEVEN I'~DREY 93.44 18x7 S SWAN AVE 69-2298 DIANE LANG 37,91 1895 S I~IARSHUVC~aD PL 72-156 DAViD WEAL 121.75 2x17 S CDVEY PL 74-356 JQE UVILS4N 55.43 692 HANDVER CT 74-10$4 EDWARD NEALE 95.62 142 'W 1ST ST 74-2476 STEPHANfE ATCHISON 63.7.4 1358 W KI t~ RA ST 74-2540 LONNIE GAMMEL 54.28 1247 IN ~IMRA ST 74-274$ EUGENE ROSS 53.$8 940 CRESTWDDD DR 74-3096 DAVID KDPET 94.29 1675 IJ~ EGRET DR 74-3206 REGENCY C4NST 57.26 $22 W GREENF~EAD ST 74-3238 DEBRA RULE 71.56 11341N GREENHEAD DR 74-3248 RICHARD GARNER 76.26 495 S PELICAN WY 69-64 T4DD ZIEGLER 83,27 2457 5 WEIMARANER WAY 69-56$ ROGER JUDGE $2.90 1107 E SHEPHERD ST 69-599 MONTGOMERY BAPTISTE 119.40 1384 E BO RZOI ST 69-608 STEVEN MOREY 93.94 1841 S SIJVAN AVE 69-2298 DIANE LANG 37.91 1895 S MARSHVV~OD PL 72-156 DAVID 1NEiL 121.75 2D17 S COVEY PL 74-356 JOE WILSON 55.43 692 HANOVER CT 74-1084 EDWARD NEALE 95.62 102 W 1ST ST 74-247G STEPHANIE ATCHISgN 63.7.4 1358 W KIMRA ST 74-2540 LONNIE GAMMEL 50.28 12071N KI M RA ST 74-2708 EUGENE ROSS 53.88 940 CREST~VQQD DR 14-3096 - DAVID KO PET 94, 29 1075 VII EGRET DR 74-3206 REGENCY CONST 57, 26 822 ~V GREENHEAD ST 74-3238 DEBRA RULE 71.56 1134 UI~ GREENHEAD DR 74-3248 RICHARD GARNER 76, 26 495 S PELICAN UVY I~ ~. ~; t 69-64 TODD ZIEG~LER 83.27 2457 S WEIMARANER WAY 69-565 R~3GER JI~DGE 82.00 1107 E SHEPHERD ST 69-594 MaNTGQMERY BAPTISTE 119,40 1354 E BDRZQI ST 69-645 STEVEN I~IQREY 93.00 1507 S SWAN AVE 69-ZZ9$ DIANE LANG 37.91 1$95 S MARSHVIIQDD PL 7 Z-156 DAVID ~JVEI L 121.7 5 2017 S COVEY PL 74-356 JOE WILSQN 55.43 69Z HANDVER CT 74-1454 EDWARD NEALE 95.62 10 Z ~N 1ST ST 74-2476 STEPHANIE ATCHISQN 63.7.4 1355 ~V I~IMRA ST 74-2544 LQNNIE GAMMEL 50. Z5 1 Z07 W ICIMRA ST 74-2708 EUGENE ROSS 53.85 940 CRESTW4QD DR 74-3496 DAVID KOPET 94.29 1475 W EGRET DR 74-3246 REGENCY C4NST 57.26 SZZ W CREENHEAD ST 74-3Z3S DEBRA RULE 71 ~ 56 1134 W GREENHEAD DR 74-3248 RICHARD GARNER 76.26 495 S PELICAN WY .~ r 69-64 f roan ZfEGLFR ~. S3. z7 zD57 S wEIMARANER UVA Y 69-568 RoGE R JUDGE 8z.oa 1107 E SHEPHERp ST . 69-59o MoN TC4MERY BAPTISTS ~ . ~ 19 oo 1 384 E ~aRZOI ST . 69-6os STEV EN MDREY 93 r o0 1807 s swAN AVE - 69-zz98 DIANE LANG 1895 S MARSHwo4D PL 37.91 7~-156 DAVID wEf L zo17 S COVEY PL 1 z1.75 74-356 JqE 1N fLSaN 6 9z HAN4VER CT 5 5.43 74-1484 EDWA RD NEALE 9 5.6z 1 oZ IN 1ST ST 74-z476 STEPHA NIE ATCHISDN 63. 74 13 58 IN KIMRA ST . 74-~54p LoNNIE GAMMEL 50. z8 1 ~ 07 w KIMRA ST 74-z748 EUGEN E ROSS 94 o CRESTVV44D DR 5 3.88 74-3496 aAVID KoPET 107 51~ EGRET DR 9 4.z9 74-3zo6 REGEN CY CoNST 8 ~~ W GREENHEAD ST sal. z6 74-3z3g DEBRA RULE 1134 W GREENHEAD DR 71 .56 74-3z48 RICHARD GARNER 76.z 6 495 S PELICAN WY 69-64 DD ZIEGLER T~ 83.27 2457 S WEIMARANER WAY 69-568 RGGER JUDGE 82.44 1107 E SHEPHERD ST 69-594 TG~MERY BAPTISTS MQN 119.44 1384 E B4RZQ1 ST ~ . 69-648 STEVEN MDREY 93'44 1847 S SWAN AVE 69-2298 DIANE LANG 37.91 1895 S MARSHVIIDOD PL 72.156 DAVID IIVEIL 121.75 2417 S C~]VEY PL 74-356 JGE WILSaN 55.43 692 HAN4VER GT 74-1084 EDWARD NEALE 95.62 14 Z W 1ST ST 74 2476 STEPHANIE ATCHISGN 6374 1358 W KIMRA ST 74.254p L LGNNIE GAMME 5G.28 1207 W KIMRA ST _ 74 27a8 EUGENE ROSS 53.85 940 GREST~VGQD DR 74-309G DAVID KOPET 90.29 14751N EGRET DR 14-3206 ~~~ CY CQNST REGEN 57.26 S22 W GREENHEAD ST 74-3238 DEBRA RULE 71.56 11341N GREENHEAD DR 74-3248 RICHARD GARNER 76.26 495 S PEI~ICAN 1NY BEFORE THE MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL ZAMZOWS INC. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ~O3 EAST 1ST STREET MERIDIAN IDAHO FINDINGS DF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW The above entitled conditional use permit a licatian hav' pp ing come on for consideration on December 17, 1996, at the hour of 7:00 a' clock p . m. on said date, at the Meridian Cit Hall 3 3 East I Y - daho Street, Meridian, Idaho, and the City Council havin heard g and taken oral and written testimony and the A licant a ' pp ppearing through two representatives, Steve Bradbur and Rick Zamzo Y w, and having duly considered the matter, the Cit Council y makes the following Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: FINDINGS OF FACT 1. That a notice of a public hearing on the Conditional Us e Permit was published for two ~2y consecutive weeks rior p to the Planning and Zaning public hearing scheduled for November 12 1996, the first publication of which was fifteen 1~ da s rior ' ~ ~ y p to said hearing; that the matter was duly considered b the P1 ` y arming and Zoning Commission at the November 1~- 1996 hearin • - g, that the public was given full opportunity to ex ress comments and ' p submit evidence; and that copies of all notices were available to newspaper, radio and television stations. That a notice of a FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW/ pa e ZAMZOW - INC . --- CUP g 1 public hearing an the Conditional Use Permit is not required to be given for the City Council meeting 4n December l7, 1996, at which the Application was considered. That these Findings of Fact and Conclusion of Law are based on the transcript of the November 1~, 1996, public hearing, the City Council meeting on December 17, 1996, and the record submitted to the City of Meridian. 2. That the property is located within the City of Meridian; that the general location of the property is 203 East 1st Street and is described in the Application, which description is incorporated herein. 3. That the property is currently zoned C-G, General Retail and Service Commercial. 4. That the zoning of General Retail and Service Commercial, ~C-G~ is defined in the Zoning ordinance at 11-2-408 B. ll. as follows: C-G General Retail and Service Commercial: The purpose of the ~ C-G ~ District is to provide far commercial uses which are customarily operated entirely ar almost entirely within a building; to provide for a review of the impact of proposed commercial uses which are auto and service oriented and are located in close proximity to major highway ar arterial streets; to fulfill the need of travel-related services as well as retail sales for the transient and permanent motoring public. All such districts shall be connected to the Municipal Water and Sewer systems of the City of Meridian, and shall not constitute strip commercial development and encourage clustering of commercial development; 5. That the Applicant is the owner of record of the property and has requested this Conditional Use Permit be granted and the Application is not at the request of the City of Meridian. 6. That a portion of the property is currently being used as FINDINGS GF FACT AND CaNCLUSIGNS DF LAW/ Page ~ ZAM2GW, INC. -- CUP is contemplated. 7. That the proposed use by the Applicant is for a new/used R. v. Sales/Service facility. 8. That sewer and water is available to the ro ert but p p y- the property will have to comply with the commercial sewer and water rates, 9. That Steve Bradbury, attorney at law re resentin the A g Applicant, submitted testimony and comments before the Plannin a g nd Zoning Commission, regarding the expansion of the exist' ing Conditional Use and that would be about 3 acres that the on i - g nal Conditional Use was for 1 1/~ acres; that the same re nest is q alright except for the landscaping and a new lan is ar will be p ~ submitted; that if this Conditional Use is approved the will buil y d it; that there would have to be additional dedication ACHD requirements wh-ich they have na problem with, exce t the len th of P g the frontage; that they want a waiver of pavin for some of the g area because it is already in gravel ~ and that a buildin ma o an g yg it after three years; that they do not want to ave interns • p lly, that the progress on the landscape has been slow due to various reasons; initially they wanted to da it at the same time but new uses and ACHD had changes; that changes need to be met' that the y do have same concrete bids; that construction can be in within g ~ weeks of approval; that there are grandfather ri hts claimed but 9 the Applicant says to da what is required; that some conditions placed upon this use could be too harsh. FINDINGS CF FACT AND CaNCLUSI4NS QF LAW/ Pa e 3 ZAMZCW, INC. -- CUP g Mr. Bradbury also submitted comments to the Cit Caun ' y cil on December 17, 1996, in which he stated, additionall as y, follows: that the landscaping os expanded on East First S treet and on Meridian Raad~ that the Ada Count Hi hwa Distr' ' Y g y ict has requ~.red additional requirements and they are acre table p except for the amount of money that they desire to go into their trust fu nd, that Applicant is in agreement with most of the staff co mments, but they do not agree with paving all of the area that is rav ' g Bled at this time, that Tam Scott Motors onl has a three e ` Y y ar lease and they may not be there long enough to require pavin all of that 9 ground and when Tam Scott leaves the pavement ma have to be y torn up, that Applicant is not convinced the were re uired ' Y q to obtain a conditional use permit and Applicant does not waive ' its rights to use the property as it was used before, that the rimar p y use would be for new and used recreational vehicle sales the h ' e questioned if a variance must be applied for not to be re ui q red to pave the entire lot, that the entry ways do need to be paved but Mr. Bradbury questioned whether all of the lot needed to be paved, and that paving is not mandated by is within the ower p of the City Council to impose as a condition of the Conditional Us ' e Permit. 10 . Rick Zamzow testified that he never creamed he wa uld have to pave the parking areas that it would be a waste of mon ' ey a.f required to pave, that they would do curb utter ' g ~ sidewalk and landscape Meridian Roads and he a reed that bo ' g nding was a requirement. FINDINGS DF FACT AND C4NCLUSICNS GF LAW/ ZAMZ 4W, INC . --- CUP Page 4 ll. That City Councilman, Walt Morrow, stated that East ' First Street must be done at this time but Meridian Road could b e done later but the work would have to be bonded and the entra nces should be done at this time, At the Plannin and Zonin ' g g Commission hearing Commissioner MacCoy had a question on the si na e• g g , that he did not want signs that flash an and off etc.• - that he had questions on how ADA is going to be met; that he wants ne w concrete not repaired concrete; concerns about the li htin shinin o g g g n homes to the north and that this must be prevented. ll. That Commissioner Borup commented that he a ree g s with the staff report, except the paving on the west. 12. That at the Planning and Zoning hearin Rick Zamzo g w commented that he felt Keith Borup covered the histor of the Y situation; that he had questions about overnment act' g cans. 13. That Tom Scott commented at the Plannin and Zon' g ing Hearing that he was up front with situation; that he thinks he fell in the crack; that he does not want to do overflow ' parking. 14. That at the Planning and Zoning hearin Chairman Johns g on submitted the comment that this was the last o ortunit to pP y have a chance to improve the property. 15, There was no other public testimon iven. Yg 16. That proper notice has been given as re wired b law and q y all procedures before the Planning and Zonin Commission ha g ve been given and followed. C4NCLLIS INNS FINDINGS 4F FACT AND CQNCLUSIDNS of LAW/ Pa e ZAMZCW, INC . -~- CUP g 5 ~; f 1. That all the procedural requirements of the Local Planning Act and of the Ordinances of the City of Meridian have been met including the mailing of notice to owners of property within 30Q feet of the external boundaries of the Applicant's property. 2. That the City of Meridian has authority to grant conditional uses pursuant to 67-6512, Naha Codes and, pursuant to 11-2-418 of the Revised and Compiled Ordinances of the City of Meridian. 3. That the City of Meridian has authority to place canditians on a conditional use permit and the use of the property pursuant to 6?-6512, Idaho C de, and pursuant to 11-2-418 D of the Revised and Compiled Ordinances of the City of Meridian, Idaho. 4. That 11-2-418 C of the Revised and Compiled Ordinances of the City of Meridian sets forth the standards under which the Planning and Zoning Commission and the City Council shall review applications for Conditional Use Permits; that upon a review of those requirements and a review of the facts presented and the conditions of the area, the City Council concludes as follows: a. The use, would in fact, constitute a conditional. use and a conditional use permit is required by Ordinance. b. The use should be harmonious with and in accordance with the Comprehensive flan and Zoning Ordinance. c. The use apparently would be designed and constructed, to be harmonious in appearance with the intended character of the general vicinity. d. That the use would nvt be hazardous nor should it be disturbing to existing or future neighboring uses. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW/ Page 6 ZAMZOW, INC. -- CUP f ~ j' ~. e. The roperty has sewer and water service available. p f. The use would not create excessive additional re uirements at public cost for public facilities and services q and the use would not be detrimental to the economa.c welfare of the community. . The use would not involve a use, activity, process, g material a uipment or conditions of operation that would be ~ q detrimental to person, property or the general welfare by reason of excessive production of traffic or noise. h. That sufficient parking for the property and the proposed use will be required. i. The development and uses will nat result in the destruction loss or damage of a natural or scenic feature of major importance. 5. That as a condition of granting this Conditional Use ermit the A licant shall meet, perform, and comply with all of P ~ PP resentatians made in the Application and at the public the rep ' 1 documents submitted as part of this Application, all hearing, al e resentations made by the Applicant, and Applicant's agents; that rp ' e re resentations are nat met, performed, and complied with if th p conditional use should be revoked; that as set forth in l1~-2- the violations of the conditions shall be, and are, violations 416 J. , e Zanin ordinance, and may be violations of other ordinances of th g of the City of Meridian. 6. It is further concluded that the comments, endations and re uirements of the Planning and Zoning recomm q 'nistrator and the City Engineering Department and all other Admi rnmental a envies shall have to be met and complied with. Bove g 7. That all ordinances of the City of Meridian must be met, '~ in but not limited to, the Uniform Building Code, Uniform includ g NGS of FACT AND CONCLUSIONS of LAW/ Page ~ FINDI ZAMZOW, INC. -- CUP Fire Code, Uniform Plumbing Cade, Uniform Electrical Code, the Fire and Life Safety Code, Mechanical Code, and all parking, lightin g and landscaping requirements, and the lighting shall be done so that the adjacent residential structures are not effected. 8. That all requirements of these Findings of Fact and Conclusians of Law shall be met, the Applicant shall meet and comply with the comments and concerns of City Staff, the representations of the Applicant and its agents, and the Ordinances of the City of Meridian. 9. It is further concluded that the comments, recommendations and requirements of the other governmental agencies shall have to be met and complied with. APPRQVAL QF FINDINGS 4F FACT AND CDNCLtJSI0N5 The Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission of the City of Meridian hereby adopts and approves these Findings of Fact and Conclusions. ROLL CALL COUNCILMAN MORROW VOTED COUNCILMAN BENTLEY VOTED COUNCILMAN ROUNTREE VOTED COUNCILMAN TOLSMA VOTED MAYOR CORRIE (TIE BREAKER) VOTED FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW/ Page 8 zAMZOw, INC, -~- cuP DECISION The Meridian City Council hereby decides that this Conditional Use Permit requested by the Applicant for the property described in the application is approved with the canditians set forth in these Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law and that the property be required to meet the water and sewer requirements, the fire and life safety codes, the Uniform Building Cade, and all other Ordinances of the City of Meridian, including that the property shall be paved. MOTION: APPROVED: DISAPPROVED: FINDINGS 4F FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW/ Page 9 ZAMZOW, INC. -~-- CUP MERIDIAN CITY CGUNCIL MEETING: __ January 7, ~ 997 ~ ~~, _ ,_..~___ APPLICANT: ITEM NUMBER; 14 REC~UEST. Ap~~ove .Bills AGENCY COMMENTS CITY CLERK: CITY ENGINEER: CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR: CITY ATTORNEY: CITY POLICE DEPT: CITY FIRE DEPT: CITY BUILDING DEPT: ~~`~ MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT: ~+ ~~ MERIDIAN POST OFFICE: ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT: ADA COUNTY STREET NAME COMMITTEE: CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH: NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION: SETTLERS IRRIGATION: IDAHO POWER: US WEST: INTERMOUNTAIN GAS: BUREAU OF RECLAMATION: OTHER: Ali Materials presented at public meetings shall become property of the City of Meridian. CITY OF MERIDIAN ENTER-~FFI~'E MEMO DATE: 117197 FRAM: Reta Cunningham T~: Mayor, Councilmen and City CIerk Attached you will find the purchase order logs for the Police De artment Sewer p Department, water Department and the Building Department. I have nat included th e Parks Department or the Fire Department because they are awaitin si natures. g g WATER DEPT w Pl1RGHASE QRDER L4G -121! P4 # V nda cc~.# .D. a~ a n 3017 LUMBERMAN'S 50-00 $54.95 3038 LUMBERMAN'S 50-OD $49.25 3051 IDAHO fNDUSTRIAL SUPPL 5D-00 ~ $202.10 3063 WATER & WASTE WATER 50-61 $13,5D0.00 3064 THE ECONOMICS PRESS 10-49 $24.02 3066 PETROL SERVICES 10-35 $45.00 3067 MITCHELL ELECTRIC 30-32 $152 65 3069 fUIERIDiAN CHEVRON 10-35 $78,64 3071 BIG 0 TIRES 10-60 $415.40 3012 IDAHO DEPT OF HEALTH & 40-fit $1,877,fig 3073 PACIFIC WATER WORKS 50-DO $438.05 3074 NAPA S&E AUTO PARTS 10-60 $5.94 3075 MINUTEMAN SECURITY 10-60 $7 5D 3076 WEAST TV & ELECTRONIC 10-49 $76,D0 3011 LL ABOUT OFFICES 10-31 $271,75 3018 PACIFIC WATER WORKS 50-00 $35.98 3019 LUMBERMAN'S 50-00 $9.96 3080 HE FLOWER PLACE 10-30 $8.50 3081 PAUL'S MERIDIAN STINKER 10-35 $22.90 3482 MINUTEMAN SECURITY 10-58 $5,65 3084 IDAHO TRACTOR, INC. 50-60 $?8.53 3085 MIKE RICE EXCAVATION 50-62 $600.OD 3086 CONOCO 1 D-6D $24.00 3087 MERIDIAN CHEVRON 1 D-35 $40.D0 3088 DECKER'S INC 10-30 ~ $45.93 3089 IDAHO TRUCK SPECIALTIE 10-60 $g,g0 3090 WESTLINK PAGING 10-56 $120,00 3091 fRMINGER CONSTRUCTION 50-62 $4,511,gg 3092 D & B SUPPLY 10-34 $191.93 3095 LCHEM LABORATORIES 40-00 12196 $144.00 3096 WATER & WASTE UVATER 50-61 $2,507.58 3097 DIGLINE 1 D~32 $130.5D ' TOTAL RECD FOR 1219fi $25,693.16 i BU1LDlNG ~ PMl-PURCHASE ORDER LOG ~ Acct ~ ~~ 5QQ1 CIVIL SURVEY CONSULTAN 3Q-17 12196 $371,77 378Q LL ABOUT OFFICES 10-4Q&1 Q- 12195 $113,42 3188 OFFICE DEPOT SPLIT 12196 $84 68 3179 OFFICE DEPOT 1Q-31 12196 $151.93 3793 UNITED WATER IDAHO 3Q-Q9 1219fi ~3,3QQ.QQ 3192 STEVENS & SANS WELL 3Q-17 12196 ~6,422.5Q 3791 LES SCHWAB TIRE CENTE 4Q-61 12196 $267.41 1787 PAYLESS DRUG 8196 X1216 3794 CH2M HILL SPLIT 12196 $fi61.57 TOTAL `PO #`: 333Q5 F i TOTAL Amount: SEWER -PURCHASE ORDER LaG -12196 P~ # 3fi19 3832 3834 3835 3838 3839 3840 3844 3845 3848 3847 3848 3849 3989 3990 3991 3992 3993 3994 3995 3991 3999 4000 4001 4002 4003 4004 4005 10D5 X007 X010 X011 X012 X013 ~D14 ~D15 ~D16 f011 X049 X058 059 ~C55 X097 Ve~ Acct. Date NORCO 40-61 S & E AUTO PARTS 40-61 IDAHO BEARING 40-61 CHEVRON 40-36 D & B SUPPLY 40-59 ANKE 40-61 PAYLESS DRUG 4d-64 IDAHO PAGING 20-00 MAIL BOXES ETC 40-63 LUMBERMANS 40-61 KAMAN 0-61 BOLENS CONTROL HOUSE 40-61 FIRE SAFETY SERVICE 0-59 KOWALLIS 8~ RICHARDS 40-61 CH2M HILL 40-62 HANSEN 20-00 1NW GRAINGER 40-61 CONTAINER & PACKAGING 0-61 FARMER BROS. 0-40 RADIO SHACK 0-61 DECKERS INC 40-59 OFFICE DEPOT 40-76 WEST STAR FIVE 40-59 MICRON TRAINING CENTE 40-49 MINUTEMAN SECURITY CT 40-59 INTERMOUNTAIN GAS 40-52 ENTERPRISE ELECTRIC 30-00 COAST TO COAST 0-61 WHESSOE VAREC INC 0-61 MAVERIK 40-36 NORFLEET 40-61 PAY 8~ PACK 40-61 QUALITY HEATING & COOL 40-59 TECHNICHEM 40-61 FRONTIER TIRE 0-61 SAFETY KLEEN 40-61 CONSOLIDATED SUPPLY 40-61 A-1 STAMP 40-61 WESTERN COMMUNICATIO 40-61 MIKE RICE EXCAVATION 40-60 TRAMMELS, INC. 40-74 KELLER ASSOCIATES,INC 40-73 DIGLINE 20-00 TOTAL 11&12196 12198 12196 12196 12198 12195 12196 ~ 2196 12196 12196 12198 12195 Aon !$51.35 $34.03 $113.14 x$258.53 '$G9.16 ?$143.6D '$29.99 ,$232.95 i$15.5D x`$5.29 $209.59 x$290.14 ;$25.50 _,$29.12__ j$fi,292.DD ~'$1,0~0.00 x$137.04 ~$1~.oa ;$57.00 ;317.99 ;214.73 '~2,409.D4 _~.~392.D0 '$280.D0 {$144.3D `2,315.57 ,$273.00 ;$279.38 _~~~,a79.33_ $35.52 ;$19.52 ;$100.18_ '~86iD0 ,_ ~~14.00 ,- ~~21.7D ~~13.50 $156.81 ~~66.00 ~.~_~ ~~50.D0 .$525.00 X341,170.30 i$ X4,027.38 $13D.5a _ ~$1Z,938.78 r... ~. r 1r- 'E P~LIGE DEPT - PURCHASE GRDER LqC -121 P.~ a or c t. a ou t 3931 COMPANY INC 10-49 12196 $11.25 3912 DA COUNTY COMPUTER 14-19 $116.56 3911 DA COUNTY SHERIFF`S 1 D-41 ~ $3?.60 3932 LL ABOUT OFFICES 10-32 $481.48 3938 T & T WIRELESS SERVICE 1 D-51 $310.45 3909 Bg1SE CALIBRATION 10-43 ~ $100.40 3916 BOISE CASCADE OFFICE 10-44 $31,8Q 3962 JAMES BRUCE, PH.D. 10-43 $880.40 3913 CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALT 1 D-43 $14,00 3745 COAST Tq COAST 1 D-fig $76.51 3968 SCOTT COLAIANNI 10-43 $fi00.00 3961 ACOB NICHOLS 10-43 $60D.00 3934 COP SHOP ETC SPLIT $105.50 3917 DON'S MERIDIAN CONgCO SPLIT $56,26 3902 .GEM COMMUNICATIONS 10-43 $108.D0 391 D HENSQN'S HEATING & AC 9D-00 $1,050.00 3937 J & D HEATING & COOLING 10-59 $125.00 3914 IDAHO HUMANE SOCIETY 0-40 $40,75 3964 IDAHO POWER 10-52 $191.25 3933 IDAHO STATESMAN 10-32 $119.64 3956 IN THE LINE OF DUTY 1 D-49 $695.04 3918 fNFORMATICS 10-32 $135.00 3901 INTERMQUNTAIN ANIMAL 10-43 $181.91 3935 INTERMOUNTAIN GAS SPLIT $212.61 3905 INTERN'L ASSOC.gF CHIEF 10-40 ~ $100.00 8875 INTERN'L TRAINING ASSOC 10-49 $590.04 3928 LIGHTNING POV~IDER CO 10-42 $212.35 3939 LYNN PEAVEY CgMPANY 10-41 $91.60 394D MAVERIK CREDIT CARD SE 10-43 $1fi.43 390D MERIDIAN ELECTRIC INC 10-59 $?0.00 3922 MERIDIAN FORD SALES 1 D-43 $173.22 3936 MERIDIAN POLICE DEPT, SPLIT $95.87 3959 MINUTEMAN SPLIT $1,111.14 3929 MODERN PRINTERS 10-32 $332.D5 3903 MOUNTAIN VIEW MEDICAL 10-43 $96.D0 3927 CINDY NICHOLS 1 D-50 $5oa.oo 3965 TREASURE VALLEY COFFE 10-69 $108,60 3904 PAYLESS DRUG STORES SPLIT $133.64 3925 PAUL'S MERIDIAN STINKER 10-43 $1,158.51 3919 LES SCHINAB TIRE CENTS 10-43 $285,82 3953 STAR PHQTq SERVICE 1 D-32 $169.65 3907 TERRITORIAL SUPPLIES 10-43 $615.78 3953 IDAHO DEPT OF JUVENILE 10w49 $150,00 887D JASON 1Q_41 $23.55 TOTAL RECD FOR 12195 $12,561.77 ~-ece~~ed 1-7-~97 interoffice M E M O R A N D U M to: nary Smith, P.E. ~c: File from: Brad Watson, E.~.T`. re: Well No. 17 Pumping Facilities -Bid Review date: ~anixary 7, l X97 Z reviewed the five bids received for the above ro'ect..A11 bids were ro erl p l p P ~ completed and included the required documents bid securit ,subcontractors list ~ ~. Several bids contained minor arithmetic errors that did not effect the order of t he bids. T'he attached spreadsheet shows the breakdown of the five bids and the En~.neer`s estimate. ~z~minger Construction supplied references to me esterda . A brief s o sis of their ~ y ~P ref erences f ollows: Idaho Fish ~ dame. Phil Jeppson, Chief, Bureau of En ineerin . Ea le Fish ~ g ~ hatchery -Pumps/Pip~ng/Septic Tanlcs, ~~41c. To ara hrase, "xt was a dXfficu~t p p job; they were on tirn.e; good, qualit work; could have robably hit them with ~ p 1 change orders but did not; felt like he did not have to watch over them constantly." • Russel Co oration. Stan, Superintendent. Wester~~ Pines Care Center - -Water/Sewer, $831c. Ta ara hrase, p p "would whore-heartedly recommend them; this was ~ rst €ram the desk a€... job they used Irminger and were ve ha with them; Brad Watson E. '~'~ ppy i.T. they were timely and conscientious." ~SSista~t City Engineer City o€ Mardian 33 East Edaho Ave. • .dancer Deve~o meet. Tod Schafer, Deer Fiat Road Meridian Idaho 83b42 Z~una - 'Water, $341c. "will use them a ain; very g respo~nsi~re, able to roll with the punches, think for 88y-22~ ~ Eax. 8$]-l297 C:IBWI4~SIGS-~E€S.~fEM themselves but aslc questions when needed; would use them all t ' he time ~f he did not have to bid." ~ " Bruce Stuart. A,s you and ~ both heard Bruce Coda , Armin er does o0 y g g d warlc for the ,Water Dept. doin collars. g L d hoover. ~e said he knows Carl Irn~in er well and sa rs the g } y do good work..~e also said 5toclce Plumbin ,listed as a subcontractor is a g reputable company that does many commercial pro'ects. l The Idaho Public ~VV'orlcs Contractors License Board stated tod ' ay that ~rmznger Construction's Public Vlrorlcs license is current and will e~ ire ' t p ~n June of 97. Their P~W license ~s Class A bid limit ~~aalc and T • ~ ~ ype 4 ~s ec~alty license . Their . P ~ ~ specialty categones are: bn.d es/structures, concrete de~nalition ex . g r cavat~on/grad~ng, fencing, hauling, landsca e, mason yard rails safer barn ' • P ry g~ 1 y ers, paving, sxgnzn , s rznlclers zrrz g p l gat~on, steel fob/erection and utilities. SU~MIVii.A,R`Y: This project seems larger than what they. normally do but all references are very good. There is certainly no reason to disqualify them. 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