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BOARD OF ADA COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
MINUTES OF THE OPEN MEETING
TUESDAY, JANUARY 28,1997
I l;da AM
The Board of Ada County Cammissioners met this date in Open Session in the
Commissioners' Conference Rvom of the Ada Caunty Administration Building to discuss
the Meridian Area of Impact. Staff members present; Patricia Nilsson, Daren Fluke,
Shawn Nickel and Jeff Patlovich, Development Services; and Ted Argyle, Prosecuting
Attorney's Office. Minutes Recorder: Kelly W. May. .
~N THE MATTER 4F CALL TD ORDER: r ~~~
Commissioner Roger Simmons called the meeting of the Ada County Commissioners to
order at 11.04 AM.
IN THE MATTER 4F RILL CALL:
In attendance were Cammissioners Roger Simmons and Frank Walker. Vernon L.
Bisterfeldt was absent,
Also Present.: Mayor Bob Carrie, Walt Morrow, Glenn Bentley, John Tensen, Wayne L.
Peterson, Tucker Johnson, Wayne G. Crookston Jr., Shari Stiles, Gary Smith, Will Berg,
Reverend Greg Reider, Don Burton, JoAnn Butler, Ted Coltrin, Glarra Coltrin, Marvin
Peterson, Wayne H. Peterson, Frank Thurman, Ted Jal~nsan, and Jim Merkle.
T. Nilsson provided a report and explained her proposed recommendation for the
Meridian area of impact. She explained that the boundary recommended by the Ada
County Development Services staff for the area, designated A an the map, would be west
of the Johnson and Howell properties.
J. Tensen said that Boise City could work with that boundary, but uestioned Baise
City's ability to provide gravity sewer to the arcel above the J 9
P ohnson property, He said
it was highly unlikely that Baise City could provide sewer all the way to Locust Grave
Road,
R. Simmons said he anticipates that this will go to a public hearing, and told the members
of the audience that they would have an opportunity to speak at that time.
T, Argyle asked if Meridian and Ada County are planning a joint public hearing.
T. Nilsson explained that there will have to be several hearings.
T. Argyle asked if there was any reason not to have a joint hearing.
R. Simmons said na, and added that he would prefer that, He would like to hold at least
one public bearing in Meridian at their regular time.
T. Argyle received clarification of the exact boundaries on the map,
T, Nilsson continued her explanation of the proposal, focusing on the area marked B.
G. Smith asked why area B wauId not be included in the Meridian area of impact,
J, Patlavich explained that it was because Meridian will not be able to provide sewer and
services to area B in the next ten years.
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W. Crookston asked if that was a policy in the Ada County Comprehensive Plan.
T. Nilsson said yes.
R. Sinunons asked if Meridian could pravide gravity sewer to the eastern boundary of
area A in ten years,
T. Nilsson replied that Meridian has said they could.
B. Carrie asked if Meridian must provide sewer within ten years to section A.
T. Nilsson said that they should if it is possible, and Ada Caunty staff has been told it is.
B. Cowie asked if they are not able ta, will that area go back to the County?
T. Nilsson said not unless the County inserts a revisitation clause into the area of impact
agreement that would trigger that.
F. Walker said that in aten-year period, the growth is expected in area A, and there will
be a need for sewer there.
B. Cowie questioned why sewer could be available to area A in ten years and oat area B
J. Patlovich answered that the Meridian staff indicated to the County that they would not
be able to service area B in ten years.
G. Smith agreed, explaining that Meridian could pravide gravity sewer tp area A, but they
would have to build a lift station to provide sewer to area B.
T. Nilsson explained that this was the reasoning behind dealing with area B separately.
W, Crookston asked if Meridian doesn't provide sewer to area B, who will? He thought
they should include the area now,
R. Simmons said he assumed that the area of impact expansion must be based ~n to is
and the Ada County Comprehensive Plan. He would like a def nition and g
directjon
regarding what Meridian could supply in terms of sewer. If Meridian could provide
sewer to both areas, then he would like the Ada County staff to modify their
recommendation,
T. Nilsson said that area B was oat slated for development in the Meridian
Comprehensive Plan, and no parks, schools, ~or developments have been planned in the
area,
J. Patlovich added that the County understood that Meridian would prefer to provide
gravity sewer and not have.#o install pump stations. Since area B must be pumped, the
Ada County staff~dr-,w tie line between A and B to avoid pumping sewer, If that is an
incorrect assumption, they will revise their recommendation,
G. Smith replied that the assumption was correct.
T, Nilsson moved onto explain area C, which extended south to Overland Road, She
said that beyond that point the land is agricultural and would oat be included in the area
of impact. '
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B. Cowie noted that he would like to have an agreement that said the areas discussed
would be included in Meridian's area of impact permanently, so the County could not
take any land away in the future.
T. Nilsson said that the recommendation of Ada County staff dealt with drawing the area
of impact line. She thought that V. Bisterfeldt had expressed his desire to revisit the area
in the future to make sure services were being provided.
R. Simmons said that he anticipated difficulty in adjusting these lines, but negotiating is
the only way to proceed.
B. Cowie noted that once the area of impact is decided, it facilitates sewer planning, He
would like continuity and security so there could be some long-range planning without
the area having to be revisited every five years.
R. Simmans said that he also thought that V, Bisterfeldt would want to revisit this area,
T. Nilsson explained that the Ada County staff had been conservative with the lines at the
starting paint. She went on to discuss the boundaries of area D.
F. Walker asked if there was any projected future growth in area D
T, Nilsson said there are preliminary projections, which are low, but because of the
existing development, they wanted to include this in the area of impact, She went on to
discuss the boundary of area E, Ada County staff made no recommended changes in this
area, because the projections of growth were low and they saw no need to increase the
boundary at this time.
B. Carrie said he would like to see the area stay in the Meridian referral area, so that any
planning and zoning applications would be referred to Meridian,
G. Smith asked what kind of development would be allowed,
T, Nilsson answered that the ~zaning was mostly RR and R1, ten-acre zoning, although it
could go into the transitional R-5 zone. She said there may be other issues, dealt with in
the conclusion of her staff proposal, including the need for clarification of the ordinances
which would enact the area of impact.
R. Simmans asked if Ada County staff was recommending one mare meeting,
T. Nilsson replied yes, to address the ordinance and referral agreement, .
B. Cowie said he was concerned, and wanted the' area of impact to be a permanent,
reserved region, so Meridian would be able to plan. with no fear of losing this area later
an.
~V. Crookston said he was concerned about the referral agreement because of the
language. Meridian officials thought tl~e referral area would eventually go to them in the
area of impact, but that has not been the case in the past and they don't want this to
happen again, He would like to strengthen the language of the referral area agreements to
say that they will eventually go into the area of impact.
F. Walker said he understood Meridian's concerns, but he did not believe the County
should preserve enough land in the azea of impact to allow fora 3o year plan. He did not
feel that was the purpose of area of impact agreements.
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W. Crookston respectfully disagreed. He felt that the area of impact should not only be
the land that can be readily provided with services, but an area where growth is planned
to occur and land that would be incorporated at some time in the future.
F. Walker did not think it was appropriate to plan the area of impact that far in advance.
T. Argyle noted that Meridian is treated with special consideration where referral
agreements are concerned. V~ith Meridian, Ada County allows referral areas outside of
the area of impact, providing additional opportunity for dialogue. T. Argyle said that the
same courtesy is not provided far other incorporated cities.
UV. Crookston admitted that was correct, but he'd Tike to see it enhanced.
R. Simmons said he thought that the Commissioners had only promised to try to provide
room far growth and longwrange planning. He said that he would not cast a vote to revisit
the area and, although staff recommend differently, he would push for more land within
area E. He did not think it was realistic to predict growth too far in advance, but he
would like to expand this alittlefurther. -
B. Corrie admitted that growth and demographics are hard to plan, and they just want to
make sure they have enough room to grow.
F. Walker understood V, Bisterfeldt's desire to revisit the area of impact stemmed from a
desire to prevent what happened with Boise in the southwest, but he would like to find a
balance.
R. Simmons said he thought it was imporkant to hold joint public meetings on this issue,
but he would like to recommend that they have a meeting in Meridian and one at the
County building.
G, Bentley suggested holding those meetings at a time when it did not conflict with any
other public hearings in the area.
R. Simmons said that aver one more meeting with the Meridian City Council, he hoped
the Commissioners will be ready to move forward an this issue and hold a public hearing.
ACTIUN: R. SIMMUNS MQVED T4 TABLE THE ITEM T4 217197 AT
1:3D PM. F. WALKER SECONDED AND THE MaTI4N
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY,
IN THE MATTER OF ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business to come before the ~Board~-at this time, the meeting was
recessed at 1:05 PM, ~ ~ ~ i
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MEMORANDUM
January ZS, I997
TO: Board of Ada County Commissioners
FROM: Patricia Nilsson, AICP, Planner T~
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RE: Meridian Area of "
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Staff has reviewed the proposed G ~ issues with
five specific boundary areas ~hzgh.a ,, th the City of
Meridian.
AREA A
Location Northeast area of proposea _ Lagle Road
between Chinden Boulevar~
Issues This area has been the subjec~ ..~ meetings with the City of Meridian. At
the January 14 meeting, John ~ ~Y~son of Boise Public Warks stated that Boise
could provide gravity service to the Hawell property and the JohnsonlSkyline
property. Gary Smith of Meridian Public Works stated that Meridian could
provide gravity service to the area one~half Hole west of Eagle Road to Ten Mile
Road. A detailed map of landownership in this area is attached.
ACTION NEEDED: The Board and Meridian need to decide if the area of city impact
boundary should follow the quarter section line one-half mile west of Eagle Road between
Chinden Boulevard and McMillan Road.
AREA B
Location Northwest area of proposed area of city impact, between McDermott Road east to
one~quarter mile west of Ten Mile Road and between Chinden Boulevard south to
Ustick Road.
Issues This area is designated as agriculturallrural residential and single family
residential, Staff has proposed a boundary line one-quarter mile west of Ten Mile
Road after considering the following information:
• Meridian will provide gravity sewer service along Ten Mile Road south to
their sewage treatment plant. Since a boundary line should allow for
coordinated development along both sides of roadway, the sine is proposed to
be located one-quarter mile west of Ten Mile Road. No sewer service is
planned for the remainder of this northwestern area.
• The expansion of the area of city impact north to Chinden consists primarily
of proposed single family residential use.
• Policy ~.3 of the Meridian Comprehensive Plan states: "Although it is
recognized that urbanized development does exist within the rural areas of the
Area of City Impact, the rural lands should be kept in agricultural production
as long as possible until urban services municipal sewer and water facilities
and other essential services} can be provided."
• The Meridian Comprehensive Plan does not propose any schools, parks, fire
stations, or wells in this area.
ACTION NEEDED: The Board and Meridian need to decide if the area of city impact
boundary should follow the quarter section line ane-quarter mile west of Ten Mile Road
between Chinden Boulevard and McMillan Road.
AREA C
Location Overland Road between McDermott Road and one~quarter mile west of Ten
Mile Road.
Issues Staff is proposing an expansion of the impact area in this vicinity to include land
along the I~84 corridor .after considering the following information:
• There is significant land zoned R-1 in this area.
• Anew interchange at Ten Mile Road is proposed in the 2015 Regional
Transportation Plan.
• The Meridian Comprehensive Plan designates this area for mixedlplanned
use development.
• The area south of Overland Road is designated as agriculturallrural
residential in the Meridian Comprehensive Plan. As noted above, the
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Meridian Comprehensive Plan states that rural lands should be kept in
agricultural production as long as possible.
ACTION NEEDED: The Board and Meridian need to decide if the area of city impact
boundary should follow Overland Road between McDermott Road and one-quarter mile west
of Ten Mile Road,
AREA D
Location Meridian Road one-half mile south of Victory Road.
Issues Staff is proposing the expansion of the area of city impact to take in the southern
portion of the Meridian Heights subdivision after considering the following
issues:
• The subdivision should be treated in its entirety for planning purposes by the
City.
• The Meridian Comprehensive Plan proposes a commercial, planned use
development at Victory Road and S. Meridian Road.
ACTION NEEDED: The Board and Meridian need to decide if the area of city impact
boundary should include the southern half of the Meridian Heights subdivision.
AREA E
Location Dne-quarter mile south of Victory Road between Meridian Road and Cloverdale
Road current boundary line} .
Issues Staff has not proposed a shift in this boundary at this time. According to
preliminary demographic data, the area bounded by Amity, S. Eagle, Columbia,
and S. Meridian Roads is forecast to increase by only i4o households between
the years 200o and 2020. Increasing the impact area would allow for the
rezoning of these lands from Rural Residential CIO acre minimum} to Rural
Transition ~5 acres minimum lot size).
ACTION NEEDED: The Board and Meridian need to agree on the location of the impact area
boundary in this area.
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C~NCLUSI~N
Dnce the Caunty and the City of Meridian have agreed on a proposed baundary, staff
recommends that the County and City review the area of city impact ordinance Ada County
Code, Title 9, Chapter 4} and the referral agreement for any desired amendments.
once a consensus has been reached on the area of city impact boundary, ordinance, and
referral agreement, the City and County need to schedule a public hearing before their
respective Planning and Zoning Commissions. Idaho Code, Section 67-6526~e} requires the
governing boards to submit the questions to the planning and zoning commissions for a
recommendation. Each commission shall have a reasonable time fixed by the governing board
to make its recommendations to the governing board. Once the recommendations have been
received, the Meridian City Council would adopt the map and ordinance followed by action by
Ada County.
PAN:pan
Attachment M Map of Proposed Impact Area Boundary
cc: Mayor Corrie
John Tensor, Boise City Public works
Jeff Patlovich
Daren Fluke
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Map prepared by Ada Caunry Deveiapment Services Department,l'annary 1997.
Base map prepared by GGI far City of Meridian for 1993 Meridian Comprehensive Plan.
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RD$ERT D. CDRRIE MALCOLM MACCOY
Mayor
NOTICE OF SPECIAL JOINT MEETING
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Meridian City Council and the Ada County
Cammisioners will held a Jaint Meetin to discuss the Cit ' '
~ y of Meridian Area of impact at
the Ada County Building, Third Floor, in the Ada Count '
y Comm~ss~aners Conference
Raom, BBB Main, Boise, Idaho, an Tuesda Janua 2S 19
~, ~ 1 97, at ~ 1. ao A. M. .
The public is welcome to attend.
DATED this 4th day of January, 1997.
WILLIAM G. BERG, JR. CI RK