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MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
AGENDA
TUESDAY, JANUARY 20, 1998 - 7:30 P.M~
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
ROLL CALL: X RON ANDERSON
X GLENN BENTLEY
X MAYOR ROBERT CORRIE
MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING HELD JANUARY 6, 1998:
(APPROVED)
X CHARLIE ROUNTREE
X KEITH BIRD
1. TABLED DECEMBER 2, 1997: FINAL PLAT FOR DEVLIN PLACE
SUBDIVISION BY D.W. INC.: (TABLED UNTIL MARCH 3, 1998)
2. TABLED JANUARY 6, 1998: REQUEST FOR INSTALLATION OF SEPTIC
SYSTEM FOR A WAREHOUSE BUILDING BY MCCALL PROPERTIES:
(TABLED UNTIL FEBRUARY 3,1998)
3. TABLED JANUARY 6, 1998: ORDINANCE #786 - CITY COUNCIL
,PRESIDENTNICE PRESIDENT: (APPROVED AS AMENDED)
4. TABLED JANUARY 6, 1998: ORDINANCE #787 - ETHICS ORDINANCE:
(CONTINUED UNTIL FEBRUARY 3,1998)
5. REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A TV BROADCASTING
STATION HOPE TV 22 WITH MICROWAVE DISH STRUCTURES TO BE
PLACED ON ROOF, SATELLITE DISHES ON ROOF AND NEAR BUILDING BY
WILLIAM HULL - 230 S. MERIDIAN ROAD: (APPROVED)
6. REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF PRELIMINARY/FINAL PLAT FOR FIRST
STREET PLAZA: (APPROVED)
7. WALTER SMITH: DISCUSSION OF HARLEY DAVIDSON RALLY AT
SPEEDWAY: (CONCEPT PRELIMINARILY APPROVED)
8. NON-DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR HONOR PARK SUBDIVISION NO.
3: (APPROVED AS AMENDED BY CITY ENGINEER AND CITY ATTORNEY)
9. DEPARTMENT REPORTS:
A. SHARI STILES, PLANNING & ZONING ADMINISTRATOR:
1. REVIEW OF PROPOSED SIGNAGE FOR ULTRA TOUCH CAR
WASH:
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2. TURTLE CREEK SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT:
3. SUBWAY SIGN AT AVEST PLAZA:
4. REVISE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN:
B. BILL GORDON, CHIEF OF POLICE:
1. FEDERAL GRANT:
2. BUDGET ADJUSTMENT:
C. KEITH BIRD, CITY COUNCILMAN:
1. NOMINATION OF CHARLIE ROUNTREE AS PRESIDENT OF CITY
COUNCIL: (APPROVED)
D. GLENN BENTLEY, CITY COUNCILMAN:
1. 1997 UNIFORM MECHANICAL CODE:
2. IDA-ORE DUES:
3. PLANNINGJWORKSHOP ITEMS:
4. MAYOR'S OFFICE COMMITTEE:
E. CHARLIE ROUNTREE, CITY COUNCILMAN:
1. TULLY PARK UPDATE:
F. BOB CORRIE, MAYOR:
1. MERIDIAN ROAD OVERPASS:
10. EXECUTIVE SESSION: PERSONNEL ISSUES (NO DECISIONS MADE)
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1\1ERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
JANUARY 20,1998
The regular meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order by Mayor Robert D. Corrie
at 7:30 P.M.
1\1E:MBERS PRESENT: Ron Anderso~ Glenn Bentley, Charlie Rountree, Keith Bird
1\1E:MBERS ABSENT: None
OTHERS PRESENT: Mayor Robert Corrie, Wayne Crooksto~ Will Berg, Gary Smith, Shari
Stiles, Bill Gordon, Brad Watson:
MINUTES OF PREVIOUS 1\1EETING HELD JANUARY 6, 1998:
Corrie: Council, you have the minutes of the previous meeting held January 6, 1998. Are there
any alterations or corrections on those minutes?
Bentley: I have none.
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Okay, I will entertain a Motion for the acceptance of the minutes, as written.
Bird: So moved.
Anderson: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and second. Do we accept the minutes as approved. All those in favor,
say yea.
MOTION CARRIED: All yea.
ITEM NO.1: TABLED DECE:MBER 2, 1998: FINAL PLAT FOR DEVLIN PLACE
SUBDIVISION BY D.W. INC.:
Corrie: Is the representative from Devlin here tonight to answer any questions? Shari would you
like to go first?
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, I haven't received any additional correspondence from the
applicant, but I do know that he is waiting for the development agreement to be executed with
Prestige Care to outline the details of that property, and I don't think he is willing to proceed
until he's got that in hand.
Corrie: Okay.
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Stiles: If you would like to put it off another month, I don't think it's going to be ready for at
least another month.
Corrie: All right.
Rountree: Mr. Mayor, would another month be through February or the end of February
meeting.
Stiles: The third Tuesday in February - the 17th.
Rountree: Would that give them sufficient time or go March?
Stiles: I think we could go March. I just would hate to see if they see suddenly took some
interest in getting that done, that it would be put off it.
Corrie: So, it would be the 3rd of March.
Bentley: Mr. Mayor, I move we table the final plat at Devlin Place until March 3rd.
Rountree: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and second that we table the Devlin Place Subdivision until March 3rd
from the discussion. Hearing none -- All those in favor say yea.
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MOTION CARRIED: All yea.
ITEM NO.2: TABLED JANUARY 6, 1998: REQUEST FOR INSTALLATION OF SEPTIC
SYSTEM FOR A WAREHOUSE BUILDING BY MCCALL PROPERTIES:
Corrie: Shari, are they here?
Shari: I believe Mr. Summers is here to address the Council tonight.
Corrie: All right.
Summers: I represent McCall Properties who owns 7.5 acres over at Commercial west of Eagle
Road.
Corrie: Can I have your name please?
Summers: Yes, Mark Summers.
Corrie: Thank you.
Summers: And are proposing to construct a warehouse building approximately 50,000 square
feet on the portion of the property. We've talked with Shari, and she has indicated that we
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should go in front of the Council because we need septic approval because there is not sewer
access there. So we are asking for septic approval.
Rountree: Do you have any indication from DEQ about the acceptability of the septic system in
that location?
Summers: No, we do not.
Rountree: There is a potential that they may indicate since the sewer is in the vicinity that they
would wish that they be connected to the city sewer.
Summers: And we'd welcome the idea to be connected to the city sewer actually. My
understanding it hasn't been brought through there. There's some sort of block getting the sewer
to us. We'd certainly be willing to pay OUf portion of that to get it to there.
Rountree: What's your time line on your construction?
Summers: We'd like to get it done in the next couple of months, get started at least.
Corrie: Who owns the property that you are wanting to do this on?
Summers: McCall Properties. We've owned it for excess often years, and it's about time we do
something with it. It's just been sitting in our books.
Corrie: What we're trying to do to give you some feedback here is trying to get an easement
through the Roland Saums property to get that sewer line over there to the Coca Cola,
Albertson's, what have you. I haven't been able to get a hold of Paul Clayton or Roland Saums.
I've been trying. Mr. Clayton has been in Alabama, or some place - he's out of town until next
week. Hopefully, -- he may have to go to California to go to Roland Saums. There seems to be
a problem between his property and Van Auker and there is something in there that is just not
right. I don't know what it is, but we're trying to find out. And I have not been able to get a
hold of either one of them yet.
Summers: Sure. We were just asking for some direction so we can proceed with the building.
Corrie: Does anybody here know any more than I do on Roland Saums and what's going on out
there?
Rountree: He seems to be a phantom.
Corrie: Yeah.
Rountree: Paul is out oftOWD. I've been trying to get a hold of him.
Corrie: And you have not talked with DEQ yet?
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Summers: No, we have not.
Bentley: I might suggest that you make some contact with DEQ and get their feelings on it, and
maybe in the interim - when Mr. Clayton gets back, the Mayor can get a hold of him and see if
we can't get a meeting set up and see if we can't find out what the problems are and can't get
something going and get the easement.
Summers: What's the position of the Council, I mean, we would just as soon have sewer there.
But I guess we'd like direction from the Council. I mean, it doesn't make sense to put in a septic
system if we're not required to.
Rountree: Well, like I'd say from the Councilman's position is that my preference is it'd be
sewer.
Summers: Okay.
Rountree: And we pool our resources and direct them that way as opposed to having you build a
septic system and then in six months have to abandon that and connect to the sewer which in fact
is what would happen if we get the sewer through there.
Summers: Sure.
Rountree: We also have a willing participant in that sewer extension as opposed to the current
property owner, so we have the physical ability it appears to get that sewer through there. We
just need the right of entry of any easement established. And that may eliminate the road block
that we have at this point, and again, as the Mayor said, we have not been able to contact the
property owner.
Summers: So, I should proceed with DEQ and just expect an answer back. What's a reasonable
amount of time for that?
Rountree: I think that they would be part of the permitting process as well, and you are going to
have to have some specifics in terms of your flow rates.
Summers: We have that. We have the architect already drawing everything up.
Rountree: It's our understanding that there is some problems with one of the septic systems that
is in the location now. So it may not be doable.
Summers: So, we just need to wait back for an answer - go to DEQ and see what we can do and
wait back to hear from you.
Corrie: In the meantime, I will get in touch with somebody in California. If not Roland, it will
be his representation. And we'll either go there or - because we have one of two choices. Either
we get the easement through there or we have to go through condemnation. I don't the Council
wants to go that forward with it, but we may have to.
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Summers: Okay.
Bentley: One other point, I wouldn't go signing up for any permits on this or anything like that
for putting that septic tank in until we - at least give us an attempt to try to get this out so you are
not out any additional money.
Summers: Okay.
Bentley: Gary, do you know any more on this?
Smith: Mr. Mayor, Councilman Bentley, Councilman, I don't know. I haven't heard a word, not
since the last meeting when the committee was formed to look into to securing the easement or
finding out what the problems are with the property owner.
Bentley: Okay, thank you.
Corrie: Council, you want to table this until the next meeting and then we have a chance to talk
with somebody - He has a chance to see DEQ.
Rountree: Mr. Mayor, my preference would be that it stays on the agenda so we stay current
with it and then don't leave these guys out in the dark on this thing so with that I would move
that we table this item until our next regularly schedules meeting.
Bird: I would second that.
Corrie: Motion made and second that we table this discussion until the next meeting which
would be February 3rd. Any further discussion? All in favor of the motion? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All yea.
Corrie: In the meantime we will find out for you so - (inaudible)
ITEM NO. 3 TABLED JANUARY 6,1998: ORDINANCE #785- CITY COUNCIL
PRESIDENT NICE PRESIDENT:
Corrie: Ordinance #786 - City Council President and Vice President. City Clerk says that that
should be 785. We dropped one.
Bentley: Seeing how we just received these - or I just did a couple of minutes ago, I'd like to
table this so I can sit and have a chance to review it. I know there's been some changes made,
but I haven~t had a chance to look at them.
Corrie: Further discussion?
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Rountree: Mr. Mayor, I've gone through the six or so versions that we have. I've come up with
one that is very similar to the one that we were presented this afternoon. In fact, it's identical. I
have some changes that need to be made in it. I would like those on the record - I would like
those changes made. I think with those changes, at least from my point of view, the ordinance
seems to contain the language that has been discussed in the planning sessions and previous
meetings, and then if the council either wishes to table or take action on that at that point in time,
I will let them decide that. Obviously I'd like to get these changes out to the Counselor so we
don't have them yet again. I would say on page 3 of the document that I have as reference
received January 9th, 1998 which is identical to the one I have stamped original in 785. It has no
page number 3. It may that it just didn't copy well. Paragraph D on page 3, the second sentence
"The President may sign warrants along with other required city officers." That needs to be
stricken. That's redundant. Paragraph F, is also the same sentence. It needs to be stricken.
From that point on, all of the paragraphs need to be re-identified. On paragraph E, the paragraph
reads, "The President with the City Council concurrent shall establish and set the agenda for all
City Council." Between the words for and all should be added '1Judget, legislative and strategic
planning issues at".
Bentley: Would you repeat that?
Rountree: I sure hope I can. The sentence would read, "The President with the City Council
concurrent shall establish and set the agenda for budget, legislative and strategic planning issues
at all City Council meetings." My last addition would be on page 4, paragraph J, second line,
"other than those mentioned above," there should be a "t" inserted in whatever word that is and it
should say "stated" by the City Council, I believe. With those changes, that version comes -
what I've come to understand has been the intent of all the previous discussions on the
ordinance.
Corrie: So then that the regular schedules - City Council meetings will stay the same as they
were now with the City Clerk, with the advice of the Mayor and City Council.
Rountree: I think the intent - I think the intent of those items are in there so that the Council can
and will get on the agenda budget, legislative and strategic planning issues not being overlooked.
Corrie: Okay.
Anderson: I would make a motion then that we approve Ordinance #785 with the changes that
Councilman Rountree recommended.
Bird: I would second it.
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Anderson and second by Mr. Bird that we approve the Ordinance
#785 as amended by Councilman Rountree. Any further discussion? Discussion: Hearing none,
I shall have a roll call vote. City Clerk, would you give the roll call, please?
ROLL CALL VOTE: Anderson-yes, Rountree-yea, Bentley-yes, Bird-yes.
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MOTION CARRIED: All yea.
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Corrie: Mr. Attorney, would you please put that in a correct form for us, and I'll sign.
Crookston: I certainly will. I believe the one that was delivered to City on January 9th should
have been exactly as you stated, but ifit's not, I will correct it.
ITEM NO.4 TABLED JANUARY 6, 1998: ORDINANCE #786 - ETHICS ORDINANCE:
Bentley: I would like to see this ordinance sent back and give us a chance to review the
pamphlets that we received Idaho Ethics and Government manual that was put out by Attorney
General Lance. We received them at the training seminar last week. And briefly looking
through this manual, it states all the state codes that are governing the ethics in government, and
I'd like to see if we aren't duplicating what's already on the record. So you have an extra
ordinance that we don't really need. I would put that in the form of a motion to discuss it at the
planning meeting.
Bird: I would second it.
Corrie: Motion made Mr. Bentley, second by Mr. Bird that we table the Ethic Ordinance and
take it up in the planning meeting until February the 3rd, Any further discussion?
Rountree: I guess I would just remind the council that one of the things we tried to accomplish
with this ordinance was to take it a step beyond those issues and those code that remain in state
code. And include some language that has actually been stricken and actually strengthen the
ethics aspect - just a point of reminder.
Bentley: And I don't have a problem with that, but here again too, we just received this copy
tonight, and I have not had a chance to review it.
Corrie: Also, I have copies of that meeting that each of you can have too as well. There's some
changes. Further discussion? All those in favor of the motion say yea.
MOTION CARRIED: All yea.
ITEM NO.5 REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A TV BROADCASTING
STATION HOPE TV 22 WITH MICROW A VB DISH STRUCTURES TO BE PLACED ON
ROOF, SATELLITE DISHES ON ROOF AND NEAR BUILDING BY WILLIAM HULL-
230 S. 1\ffiRIDIAN ROAD:
Corrie: Is Mr. Hull here tonight? Yes, sir, Mr. Hull.
Hull: As you have in your notes from the Planning and Zoning meeting, we located this building
because of its proximity of direction to the Deer Point, and then have put the dish for testing and
as I stated if the tests didn't work out, we wouldn't be here, but testing showed that it was
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workable, and we have endeavored to comply with all of the other requests that we know of and
hope that we've done what we could to provide a TV station in this location.
Rountree: Mr. Hull, have you had an opportunity to review all of the terms and conditions of the
Findings Of Facts as presented to you from Planning and Zoning?
Hull: Yes, I've looked those over.
Rountree: And they are acceptable to you?
Hull: Yes.
Rountree: Okay. I have no other questions.
Corrie: Mr. Hull, what is Hope TV 22?
Hull: Hope TV 22 is the title use for it. Its four letter call letters are KeLP. We use channel 22,
a broadcast channel, and thus we just use the title Hope TV 22. But its official title will be
KeLP Broadcast Station.
Corrie: What kind of - is it a nation hookup or news or public TV or what?
Hull: We're hoping it will be an active local TV station. Present our access is to the worship
network which is strongly religious. And so it will always have a strong religious flavor to our
programming with a lot of local programming. We're hoping that we will have a lot of the
young people from the churches coming and training and learning how to go back to their church
and produce programs that we can broadcast. In addition to that, we will have issues and ideas
programming, some sports programming, quite a variety of programming that we hope will reach
the community needs.
Corrie: Okay, thank you. Any further discussion, comments?
Anderson: I had one question. I noticed in the Findings Of Facts and Conclusion, it referenced
adequate parking several times, and in the letter from Steve Arnold from ACHD, he mentioned
that parking along the front would be eliminated. And in the Findings Of Facts and Conclusions,
it didn't concur with that, and I guess my question to Shari is whether there is a minimum
parking that is required and is that met or -
Stiles: Commissioner Anderson, Mayor and Council, that parking will be eliminated when the
widening of Meridian Road takes place. It's minimal now as far as parking requirements, and
there can't be backing back out on to the street. There will be a vertical curb there, and there will
be no way possible for people to park right directly in front of the building. I don't know how
the parking is allocated as far as the remaining buildings and the remaining tenants there. I don't
notice that they have any kind of a parking problem now, except when they have league play or
something over at the bowling alley. But I think that was one of my comments too, that that
would be eliminated. That was probably not an answer to your question, but -
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Anderson: Maybe Mr. Hull could answer. Do you anticipate a lot a traffic in there?
Hull: No, we really don't, and there is ample parking in the center, and so far we haven't had
any difficulty even when there is large number of people there at the bowling alley. So there
always seems to be adequate parking. There was a little uncertainty about that parking where it
said that it would be eliminated, and yet one of the gentlemen for the Highway District who was
there said, "Well you could come along through that alley and turn and park parallel to the
sidewalk. But whether that will take place or not, I don't know. There's adequate parking that's
available even at the end of the building and in the center area, so I don't think parking is going
to be a problem.
Anderson: Yes, my other question is, it was noted in here about size of the satellite dishes and
the number of them. One of the things we've been talking about is trying to keep the entry way
corridors coming into the city - keeping them in a nice looking fashio~ and is there anything
that can be done to try and make these satellite dishes look a little less discreet, any type of
screening or positioning that can be done with them?
Hull: The interesting thing is as industry is changing, everything is shrinking in size. We're not
even sure that we will put up the ten foot mesh dish. The ten foot mesh dish being mesh always
looks smaller in size than even the eight foot solid dish, that is the microwave dish on the north
side of the building. The eighteen inch dishes, you're familiar with those, the small ones, we'll
have two of those on the south end of the building. And we're at first planning on putting the
larger ten foot dish, but as of yet we're not sure even that we will need to put that up. But if we
do, it will probably not stay up for long. I am anticipated that within a year, everything will have
gone to the digital DBS dish, and we can then take that one down.
Anderson: Thank you.
Corrie: Any further questions? Mr. Hull, thank you very much. Any further questions of staff?
Okay you have the Findings Of Facts and Conclusions in front of you from the previous reports.
Rountree: Mr. Mayor, I move that the Meridian City Council approves the Findings Of Facts
and Conclusions of Law as prepared by the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission.
Bentley: Second.
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Rountree and second by Mr. Bentley that we accept the Findings
Of Facts and Conclusions of Law by the Planning and Zoning Commission.
ROLL CALL VOTE: Anderson -yea, Rountree -yea, Bentley-yea, Bird-yea.
MOTION CARRIED: All yea.
Corrie: I will entertain a motion for the conclusion.
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Rountree: Mr. Mayor, I move that the Meridian City Council approve the Conditional Use
Permit requested by the applicant for the property described in the application with the
conditions set forth in the Findings Of Facts and Conclusions of Law and others required by the
City Council.
Bentley: Second.
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Rountree and second by Mr. Bentley that we have the decision and
recommendation as read. Any further discussion? All those in favor of the motion say yea.
MOTION CARRIED: All yea.
Corrie: Mr. Hull, you are all set now.
ITEM NO.6: REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF PRELIMINARYIFINAL PLAT FOR FIRST
STREET PLAZA:
Corrie: Shari, anything we should know about this one other than the one we have here?
Rountree: Mr. Mayor, apparently then they are coming up against their deadline and they are
within the allowable one-year extension?
Shari: Yes.
Rountree: Okay. I guess as a point of update to the new councilmen that there is a time limit
required for filing final plats; is that not correct, and ifit's going to exceed that time limit, the
developer comes to the City and ask for an extension of that time. It's customary that we have
allowed a year extension from the date of - has it been the request or the date of expiration date?
Shari: They have one year from the date the preliminary plat is approved to submit a final plat
and then one year thereafter to record it. And so they're up against the recording date.
Rountree: Recording date, so that's what the request is. Is there any problem from staffwith
doing that?
Shari: Still trying to get some landscaping and a redesign of the parking there.
Bentley: Mr. Mayor, I would move we extend the preliminary plat filing approval for the Cherry
Plaza from one year past the current expiration date.
Rountree: Second.
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Bentley, second by Mr. Rountree that we extend the preliminary
final plat for First Street Plaza for one year from the date. Any further discussion? All those in
favor of the motion, say yea.
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MOTION CARRIED: All yea.
ITEM NO. 7: WALTER SMITH: DISCUSSION OF HARLEY DAVIDSON RALLY AT
SPEEDWAY:
Corrie: Is - front and center.
Smith: Evening. I'm site coordinator for the 1998 Harley owners group state rally committee,
and we have arranled with Ken Hamilton with Meridian Speedway to hold '98 state rally at the
speedway July 10 and 11th of this year, and there is two chapters of Harley owners group in
Idaho, and one here in the treasure valley sponsored by Cycle Nuts and Bolts and one over in
Blackfoot sponsored by Blackfoot Harley Davidson. And the rally goes back and forth every
year, and this year it's our year to sponsor it. Upon an average the rally pulls in 250 to 300
motorcycles somewhere between 300 and 500 people; not Hell's Angels. Basically,--
Rountree: You sure?
Smith: Yea~ positive. I don't think we have any of those chapters here actually. That's a
whole different group. Anyway, I've had a couple of conversations with the Chief of Police, a
conversation with the Mayor. We've talked to the people who run the park. We've talked to the
people who run the pool, and everybody seems to think that this is a good idea. Basically why
I'm here tonight for is to make sure that the experience is a positive one for both the City of
Meridian and the participants in the 1998 hog rally. Just want to make sure that if you have any
questions or concerns, that we get them out now in January instead of waiting until the last
minute, and people start freaking out because 300 Harleys roll into town.
Bentley: Mr. Mayor, what's the dates for this?
Smith: July lOth and 11th, which is a Friday and Saturday in July.
Bentley: And where are they going to be staying, are they going to stay right at the -
Smith: -- Well, the speedway is going to be used as the central rally point, if you will. OUf
intentions for this year are to have a few field events that are going to be held inside the
speedway itself For the most part, the rally is going to consist of rides throughout the treasure
valley and the surrounding areas for those two days. There is not going to be a parade coming
down Main Street or drag racing in the park or anything like that. Basically the speedway is just
a rally point and place where everybody comes to and then departs from.
Bentley: Okay. Thank you.
Smith: All right. There will be - we are proposing anyway - Ken Hamilton has an offer to us.
He's got about approximately 4 and half acres, I guess, immediately east of the city park. He has
offered to us for camping. There doesn't seem to be any problem between the park and the pool
with restroom and shower facilities being available to us. If necessary, we can pull in extra
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restrooms, only that's not really a problem. We figured we'd work that out as we get a little
closer to time for this, and see what our needs are actually going to be. That's about it.
Corrie: It would be a good one for Tom Kuntz.
Rountree: I guess I could point out to you, I think you are going to max out any facilities at the
pool. They are pretty limited, so you are going to have to - if you are looking at on-site staying,
you are going to have to have some kind of portable facilities.
Smith: Our plan calls for having portable facilities. At this point we are still in the real early
planning stages of this thing, and sometime in the next sixty days, we will be firming things up,
but no, we don't intend to overload any of the City's facilities. We are going to go out of our
way not to overload any of the City's facilities. There shouldn't be any conflict here at all. I'm
a pretty cautious, and I have a tendency to overplan and overbuild - one of my faults - and so we
will be making sure that we're not running afoul of anyone here.
Corrie: We'll have you get in contact with Tom Kuntz who will be the parks director. You
know, kind of go over some of the things we need to do as well. So-
Smith: Okay, is he the new park director?
Corrie: He is the new parks director.
Rountree: Yes.
Smith: Okay, have we already talked to him?
Corrie: He will be coming in the 29th of January, and be all set to go.
Smith: Okay. Y ea~ we talked to the old parks director, and we talked to - what is it recreation
district that runs the pool? We talked to the guy who runs that. So as much as possible we've
made contact with the people we figure we're going to have primary impact on.
Bird: Mr. Mayor, I'd like to have a comment from Chief Gordon, if I could regarding this.
Gordon: Mr. Mayor, Council, Mr. Smith approached me approximately three or four months ago
and advised me of what their plans were. I've an opportunity to do some checking and found
that he is a reputable businessman in Garden City. What he usually starts, he finishes. And I
have no doubts that this is going to be a asset for the City of Meridian. I think this kind of
highlights our need for a special events ordinance, which I am working on now, which would
spell out all the needs and everything we need to do for an event of this nature and magnitude.
But as far as the police department goes, we don't have any problems at all with it.
Smith: Thank you.
Bentley: Are you going to ride the new Kawasaki's with them?
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Bentley: I would have one request, that we have a competition between the Meridian Police
Department's new Kawaskis and one of the Hafleys. We need to decide whether we are going to
continue to buy Kawaskis or Harleys.
Smith: I would be more than happy to participate in that. Both as a member of the rally
committee and as general manager of Cycles Nuts and Bolts Harley Davidson. I would be more
than happy to participate in that. As long as I get to designate the operator of the Harley
Davidson.
Gordon: We talked with Mr. Smith when we were negotiating or determining which
motorcycles to buy. The issue was money, not performance, I might add that.
Anderson: So, they can't catch these guys if they do do something bad.
Smith: Well, he probably thinks so.
Gordon: I guarantee you our radios are faster than those Harleys. We don't have any problems.
We are looking forward to it.
Corrie: Okay, any further discussion?
Rountree: I have nothing. Just a general comment. I think it would be good for the city and be
great to put something together where we have a shared experience with it.
Smith: That's what we are hoping for. Good positive thing for everybody. Thank you
gentlemen.
ITEM NO.8 NON-DEVELOPMENT AGREErvffiNT FOR HONOR PARK SUBDMSION
NO.3:
Corrie: Mr. Crookston, have you read over the non-development agreement?
Crookston: Yes, I have.
Corrie: Your comments.
Crookston: There is just one or two very minor changes that I have written on my comments,
Corrie: Doesn't change the meaning any?
Crookston: No, it doesn't.
Bentley: So, you are satisfied with it for approval?
Crookston: Just with those minor changes, yes. It could be approved subject to those changes
being made.
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Corrie: There's a place here on this one. There's my signature and Bill Haun, the developer.
There's not one for the City Clerk to attest.
Crookston: That is one of the changes that I had. It needs Will Berg, the City Clerk to attest, the
Mayor's signature, plus it needs a secretary signature for Mr. Haun's - and I'm not sure whether
or not Mr. Raun is a corporation or not.
Corrie: So, those are your suggestions and changes?
Crookston: Yes.
Corrie: All right. Okay, now Mr. Bentley.
Bentley: I forgot what I was going to do.
Rountree: Mr. Mayor, I move that we approve the Non-Development Agreement authorize the
Mayor to sign and the City Clerk to attest subject to the changes addressed by Counselor
Crookston.
Bentley: Second.
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Rountree, second by Mr. Bentley to the Non-Development
Agreement subject to the changes by the City Attorney for the Mayor to sign and the City Clerk
to attest. Further discussion?
Smith: Mr. Mayor, I was just curious if Wayne received any comments that I had given to the
City Clerk?
Crookston: I don't believe that I have, Gary.
Smith: Okay. I had a couple of questions that I was just asking requesting information on in
terms of what they were going to develop and what they weren't going to develop. Whether or
not they had meant to include lot 20 which is the roadway, which is a private roadway as part of
this non-development agreement. Otherwise they would be non-developing all the lots around
this roadway, which was not included as part of the non-development request. And perhaps they
missed it when they drew the agreement up thinking that it was a public street, and in fact, it's
labeled as a private street, and it has a lot number designation on it. So my question would be
whether they want to include lot 20 in the lists of lots for non-development.
Rountree: The paragraph related to those lots indicates they desire now to withhold development
of streets, utilities and lot improvements. But I understand what you are saying. The street is
actually designated as a lot on the -
Smith: Yes, yes. I have some other concerns with some wording - and this is legal I guess - and
I just need some information from Wayne. Do you want me to just to review that with Wayne,
Mr. Mayor and Council?
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Rountree: That would be fine.
Bentley: That would be my preference too.
Rountree: Just get on with it.
Corrie: Any further discussion then?
Rountree: I have none.
Bentley: I have none.
Rountree: Unless you want the motion amended?
Corrie: I was going to ask if you wanted to amend it to that lot 207
Rountree: I was just going to amend the motion to include the concurrence between the City
Engineer and City Attorney.
Bentley: Second. -
Corrie: Any further discussion. The motion reads to approve the non-development agreement
with the - subject to the staff approval wording. Is there any - is that correct? All those in favor
of the corrected amended motion, say yea. All those opposed, no?
MOTION CARRIED: All yea.
Corrie: So if you'll get together with him Gary, get that finalized.
ITEM NO. 9: DEPART:rv1ENTREPORTS
Corrie: Gary?
Smith: I have no reports this evening, Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Shari?
Bentley: Uh-oh. She's getting up.
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, we had a request from Ultra Touch Car Wash for a revised sign
from what they previously submitted. The sign they had previously submitted still wasn't
approved by Council, but as you can see by this sheet behind the Phillips 66 an Ultra Touch Car
Wash sign. The Findings specifically addressed the height and the maximum square footage of
the sign as part of their Conditional Use Permit. What they are proposing is substantially more
than what those Findings indicate. The applicant also asked that if this were not approved, if he
could have two signs each of 120 square feet. If that would be considered or if that is something
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you specifically want to look at. I don't have a copy in here of the previous application he
submitted. It was more on the lines of Central Valley Corporate Park design with (end of tape)
-- much taller. I just need to know if you want me to tell him to go back to the drawing board. I
let him know what the Findings said, and he was well aware of that. He wanted me to go ahead
and present this. So, that's what I'm doing.
Rountree: My comment would be that during our consideration of the conditions and the
Findings Of Facts, they had an opportunity to comment on that, and I'm sure they were asked if
they were in general agreement with the conditions. Though I don't have those minutes. My
position would be that we hold them to the conditions in the Findings Of Facts. I think they are
even more generous than they would probably get today and go from there.
Stiles: Okay.
Bentley: Mr. Mayor, I will concur with that.
Stiles: I would like to bring any signage they propose back to the Council whether it's - I don't
know if you want it in a public City Council meeting, or want to review that as they come in, but
I think we are going to have a lot more of these come up. The main control that we have over
these signs, until we get the sign ordinance changed, is that it is a requirement of their
Conditional Use Permit that they submit this and get it approved as part of their design. That's
our savings there.
Rountree: I guess my comment to that would be unless there's a deviation from what we have in
the Findings Of Facts, st~ should be able to take care of that. <
Stiles: Okay.
Anderson: I would conclude with that too - you know, I know we need to do some work on our
sign ordinance, but it was very clear in the Findings of Fact and Conclusions what they could do,
and what they're presenting is completely than those so I think that's something that you could
probably handle at your level.
Stiles: What about the request that each business, even though it's a combined business, that
they each have their own individual sign?
Anderson: I think again that needs to be clarified in our sign ordinance, but that wasn't allowed
in the original Findings of Facts and Conclusions.
Bentley: Mr. Mayor, I prefer that we go with one sign instead of two.
Stiles: Similar to what they proposed previously.
Bentley: That's correct.
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Stiles: It does say in the Findings that all signs shall be designed approved by the City Council
or the City official designa,ted by City Council to approve signs. I mean if that's what you-
Bentley: You have a new title.
Corrie: You may be harder than the Council.
Stiles: I like to be the good guy though.
Corrie: Once in a while you can be.
Stiles: Okay.
Bentley: Once in a while you'll tell somebody yes.
Stiles: The next item I had was from a request of a realtor. I guess that I really shouldn't have
been considering this since they are not the legal owner of the property, but it's kind of a "what
if" situation that hasn't come up before, and I wanted to know what your reaction would be to it.
You have a copy of Turtle Creek, and the shaded in area - this applicant - or this proposed
applicant is not proposing to take that entire area. It would be, I think, about 16 acres. But let
me turn on the overhead here, and I'll show you what the proposal is. Gary, did the Council get
a copy of your memo about Turtle Creek, or Brad's Memo?
Smith: No, they didn't yet. I'll make a copy. Would you like me to do that and pass it out?
Stiles: That's great.
Bentley: Shari, would you for the benefit of the Councilmen tell where -- what the cross streets
are, the main streets?
Stiles: This is the famous Turtle Creek. It's across -- it's just west of Tully Park on Linder Road.
It's approximately 72 acre piece that was platted originally approximately three years I think. In
the meantime we've undergone some problems. They've requested extensions. The latest
extension that's been granted - this area here has received final plat approval. They've also
platted this house here. Apparently the developer has let the bank take it back. The owners of the
property, the Cairns. Cairns? Is this Cairns? Cairns' property apparently is being
marketed in the real estate world as being more piece than it actually is. They were all ready to
do this. I'm not sure how much of the utilities were in. But they did do some substantial amount
of work out there and stopped. The request that was made of me is what would happen is
somebody took this piece here and wanted to develop that piece. I would hate to see the
development broken up. I don't know why it's being marketed that way now, but the major
problem I see with that besides some of the other problems - the extension on this plat expires
March 20th. If this final plat is not recorded by March 20th, then the entire plat is null and void.
The major problem I see with developing this is they don't have a direct access off of Linder
Road. They will be going through local streets to get to the existing stub streets here and here.
There is probably a lot of people in the area that are just thankful. Some of the construction had
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ended over here, I really don't think that's fair to them when it wasn't presented in that way to
develop it in that way. Gary's making a - did you get Gary?
Smith: She's bringing it in just a few minutes.
Stiles: There are several issues involved here. Tully Park, the developer was initially agreeable
to helping design and construct the pump station that would serve all of Tully Park as well as this
subdivision. That's still in limbo now, because this property is not being developed. There are
some developers that are interested in taking the entire project on. I don't know what the bank's
position is on it. But there's also some drainage issues as far as - the irrigation season is coming
up, and there's a ditch that has been tiled from here, I believe, to over here. And apparently
there's just a big mound of dirt somewhere in this area that has been causing some drainage
problems, flooding of this stub street. And if that's not taken care of before irrigation season, it
may be a matter that the City's going to have to go in and do it and put a lien on the property.
That's as bad as the situation is. The people proposing to do this portion over here are here if ~
you'd like to talk to them. But Gary has some other issues I think in that memo that Brad came
up with, it's a problem all the way around, and we just didn't know how to proceed, so that's
why I am coming to you.
Bird: Shari, they are just asking for the purple?
Shari: Yes, they want to develop that portion of the approved preliminary plat which was
proposed as phase 3 of a 4 phase project.
Rountree: It seems to me that if the project has chopped up like, then in effect, we have a new
project. It would have to go through the public hearing process. It wouldn't necessarily be
trying to meet the deadline of the March deadline for the filing of the final plat. So, I think from
that aspect, it's not doable. In my mind it would have to go through the Planning and Zoning. It
would have to go through the City Council with a public hearing process, not just simply a
matter of filing a final plat for that portion. It is a difference concept. The concept originally
was to provide access from Linder into that development. One of the issues with that
development has always been and will continue to be the concern of people on Chateau of
carrying the traffic burden of that development without access on Linder. So, I think it would
merit another public hearing if that were being proposed. They also have to deal with the
question of pressurized irrigation system. And as far as I'm concerned that piece of property is
on the hook to the City to help finance that pump station.
Bentley: I would concur with what Charlie has said on that. I am real familiar with the flooding
on Monaco. I received several calls on that since I happen to live in the area. I too feel that
running all this traffic past Linder Elementary is just asking for trouble safety wise and the
complaints from the public. I too agree with his comment on the pump station was going to be
my next. We're putting the park in, the pump station's going in, and we need to have that
resolved so I would not be in favor of doing this in this fashion.
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Corrie: I know there is a lot of traffic on Chateau that would be in to that and !' m getting calls
now about Chateau traffic. And so is ACHD and some of the signs and speed bumps on that
Linder School. I concur there.
Stiles: I just - I didn't know if Council had ever come across applicants - somebody trying to do
something like this. I certainly have never heard of anything -
Rountree: I haven't seen in Planning and Zoning or Council before. -(inaudible) scaled back,
not in complete phases, but cell phases as their independent subdivision.
Stiles: And there is a development agreement, I believe it covered the entire project that was
entered into by John Steel, recorded agreement that encumbers all of the property. So, Gary do
you have some more issues you want to bring up on that?
Smith: No, I don't, Shari. Mayor and Council, I think Brad covered everything that he could
find in his research of the file. He did that for me and for you for tonight's meeting. Unless you
have any questions.
Stiles: Next item is a request by Subway that is over in the Fred Meyer development - Subway
and Brueger's Bagel. I don't know if they are proposing the in two space below there signage
for the additional two tenants or not. I would assume that's what it's for, but they are not
proposing any signage there at this time. The total square footage on this would exceed what has
recently been approved across the street which was a six by twelve maximum 72 square foot
sign. I believe that because this part of a Conditional Use Permit that Council has the authority
to put some regulations and to be able to review some of those signs. We've had some problems
with the temporary A-frame signs appearing out on the berms. And this is their attempt to
alleviate that problem and still get some exposure in there. They're having trouble getting
people passing by to recognize that they are there, and that's the reason for the sign. I guess my
proposal to them is that they stick with the 6x12 and not exceed that 72 square foot maximum for
that sign unless Council sees another issue there.
Corrie: Who's paying for that sign?
Stiles: Who's paying for it?
Bentley: You are with the next sandwich you buy.
Corrie: So, I assume it's a combination of people.
Stiles: In this case it would be an on-premise sign. It wouldn't be an off-premise sign. We've
had proposals from other people interested in the Maxi-Java and the Postal Connection back
there to put signs out on Fairview. But those would be off-premise signs. This would actually
be included on the lot where the building is. It is a little difficult to see with the berm there. It's
not a bad looking sign. I just - I guess I would propose to them that it meet the 72 square foot
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Bentley: Do you know what the plan is for the bottom two blocks?
Stiles: There's currently the cleaners and they show another tenant. I'm not sure if there's
something in there. What is it? Do you know?
Bentley: So, they're planning on putting other tenants in their cubicle on this?
Stiles: Well, it almost looks like it, but I couldn't say that that's what they're proposing.
Bentley: Well, my preference would be that if we went ahead and let them have the sign, that we
go with the 72 square, and that all of the people that are in that lot premise be on one sign. That
no one come back with another sign.
Stiles: I don't know if it's that they've approached them, and they're not willing to participate
yet, and they think that they might in the future, but it would be nice to have them all on one.
Bentley: Right. That would be my preference.
Stiles: Okay. Well, we can certainly make that a condition of their Conditional Use. Okay?
Bentley: Mr. Mayor, I don't have a problem with that. I think it's a monument sign consistent
with what we're trying to get to. I just find it interesting that we can have four business.
advertised on this sign, and a previous applicant wanting a change couldn't get their business
advertised on one that's about 25% larger.
Stiles: True.
Corrie: Anybody else? Okay.
Stiles: I just had one more issue. And it has come before Council before with the direction to
me to revise the comprehensive plan to reflect this change, and that hasn't been done. Since we
have two new councilmen, I'd like to ask the Council again, there's a property owned by Gordon
Harris that's off of Eagle Road. It's about a half mile south of Victory. He's got - it's on the
west hand side. He's got his home, a nice home. He went to Ada County Commissioner and
requested a rezone to R-l and subdivision of that property into 5 acre lots except for his existing
home, which he's proposing to be 1.88 acre. The Ada County Commissioners in their Findings
Of Fact and Conclusions of Law recommended denial of the request to change to R-l because it
was not in accordance with our comprehensive plan. OUf comprehensive plan calls for a
minimum of 5 to 1 0 acre lots unless those lots are served by municipal sewer and water which
this would not be. He's proposing septic and wells. So, that's why he went with the 5 acre
minimum, but as part of the Findings Of Fact and Conclusions Of Law by Ada County Planning
and Zoning Commissioners because our comprehensive plan calls for their dry line sewers, that's
a requirement of this plat. Council in the past has decided with the advice of Gary Smith, those
dry line sewers are nothing but an expense. The City has no control over how they're
constructed. You don't know what kind of condition they will be in when they are actually
proposed to be connected to sewer, and they would like a motion by Council to delete the
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requirement for provision of dry line sewers in this subdivision. It will be I believe a total 3 lot
subdivision, and he wanted to develop it more density. We let him know that it's in a mixed
residential area, and in accordance with our comprehensive plan, we would also like some kind
of a note on there to let everybody know that the surrounding properties will be developed at an
urban density, and that would not be cause for objection to those proposals. I don't know how
you feel about that dry line sewer r~quirement in the comprehensive plan. Any new insight from
the new members or old members?
Rountree: Some old insight from some old members. I could comment, I think on the dry line
sewers. Originally it was felt that in those kinds of developments we would at least have any
opportunity to (inaudible) in to our infrastructure once we got to those locations. And they've
since proven not to provide that, the opportunity. I think that I would be looking for is the
easement for those utilities in the future. The understanding, either by deed or plat, those
dwellings will hook to the municipal sewer and water when it is available to them. And that we
will participate in the costs of extending sewer line to and through them at such time as the sewer
and water is extended. They need to understand that. Ultimately that's the intent. And again
they need to understand that point you made that it's going to be various residential density in
the area. On my question to you on your question to us is, will the county act on a motion that
we make that would defer the requirement for the dry line sewer and reconsider their
application? How is that handled?
Stiles: They may upon motion by the Council if you specifically desire to that. In the past it's
like they didn't pay attention to it, but they are trying to follow our comprehensive plan now, and
I would like to - you know- .
Rountree: I appreciate that.
Stiles: I do too, and I hate to just go back and say, "Well, you know, we didn't really mean
this." Or, ''this is bad policy. We decided is not good anymore." But there's no use in people in
spending that - I mean ifpeople are going to be spending that money, they might as well put it in
a reserve fund to actually construct the sewer at a later date.
Bentley: I would have a question what the legality would even show that if we put a motion
together that - we don't want the dry line. I mean I think if we just write them a note and
accomplish the same thing. Because I can't see how we can make a motion on a county issue. I
mean realize they're trying to follow our comp plan. We appreciate that. I don't know, does it
hold any validity?
Stiles: Now it does. I mean because they are actually paying attention to our comp plan. OUf
comp plan -
Corrie: We need to address a new comp plan or adjustments to the comp plan very soon, which
you're working on now. I think if we just - I think if we use a motion to the effect-
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Rountree: What's the precedence? I know it's been done in the past. I just don't recall. Gary or
Shari, either one? Was it Council's action or did the county just press on knowing that it was not
an issue with the Council?
Stiles: I think they just pressed on. I don't think they were paying attention to what our comp
plan said. You know, I'm grateful that the staff is looking at it now.
Bentley: Well I feel a response - we need to respond to them in some fashion to let them know
what our feelings are, and if the motion is the proper way then so be it.
Stiles: I mea~ I don't want to come up against this on every single project - somebody-I don't
know. Does it take a motion by Council- that's a new policy that dry line sewers will not be
required in those areas that develop?
Crookston: There would have to be a change in our Comprehensive Plan.
Corrie: That's not an.ordinance or anything, that we have to have it. So, it's a plan.
Crookston: Well, the Comprehensive Plan is an ordinance.
Stiles: The Comp Plan is an ordinance.
Corrie: Well, it is itself: yes, but not each individual item isn't. Each individual item is a plan,
but the Comprehensive Plan - well, maybe I'm wrong here. But every item in the
Comprehensive Plan is not an ordinance.
Crookston: It's part of an ordinance.
Corrie: Part of an ordinance, right.
Stiles: But these are policies within that ordinance.
Corrie: So what would be the best, Counselor?
Crookston: Change the Comp Plan.(Inaudible)
Rountree: Ifwe start tonight, that's six months from now.
Crookston: You can only change the Comprehensive Plan every six months. So the six months
runs from the last time we changed it which was in 1993 - December of 1993.
Stiles: So we're in good shape. Please let me get my staff frrst before we have to do it.
Rountree: Is there any way by motion we can communicate to the county that it's not an issue
that we would pursue if they were to approve the s~bdivision at this point?
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Crookston: You have to stand by the Comprehensive Plan because it has been passed as an
ordinance. If you desire to adopt a change in that, you're really then in violation of the
Comprehensive Plan - the motion itself would be in violation of it.
Rountree: So it would have to be a variance, ordinance variance. At a minimum you have to
have a hearing process for a variance?
Crookston: I'm not aware of a variance on the Comprehensive Plan requirements.
Corrie: So, we're back to square one.
Rountree: Work with us Wayne, work with us here.
Corrie: Can we just give them the -
Crookston: You can indicate your intentions as to what you want to do, but you need to tell them
that that is not binding in any fashion.
Bentley: What isn't binding, our intention?
Crookston: Correct. Because what you want to do is say something - state something that's in
violation of the Comprehensive Plan, and I don't think that I can advise that that is correct. You
should not do that.
Corrie: Then we won't do that.
???: oes it state in writing in our Comprehensive Plan that we require dry sewers, or is that
· st a policy?
Crookston: Yes. It's in there.
Stiles: -- as a policy.
Rountree: It's in there as a policy, but it's been adopted as a overall comp plan ordinance.
Corrie: Well, since we are going to address the Comprehensive Plan, probably within six
months, when we get to that. Shall we just -do we tell the county commissioners to kind of -
well, we can't tell them anything.
Rountree: I guess, Mr. Mayor, just to make the waters more muddy, I make a motion to -
Crookston: Gary has a comment, excuse me.
Smith: Mr. Mayor, councilmen, did I hear someone that the owner was willing to have the
properties assessed for the installation of the sewer line?
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Stiles: No.
Rountree: No, that was just a comment made.
Smith: Okay.
Stiles: That would be a good idea though.
Smith: I thought maybe if there was some vehicle for installation of the sewer at a future time,
that we would be - maybe in a round about way -
Rountree: Doing the same thing.
Smith: Applying, I mean concurring with own comp plan.
Corrie: I don't think that Mr. Harris said that. Did he?
Stiles: Well, there's in place to allow him to do that anyway.
Rountree: I guess my motion would be to inform the Ada County Planning and Zoning that the
City of Meridian is intending to modify and revise the Comprehensive Plan and intends to
address the dry line sewer issue at that point. So they at least know we're working on it.
Bentley: Is that a motion?
Rountree: Yeah.
Bird: I'll second it.
Corrie: Motion is made by Mr. Rountree and second by Mr. Bird. You heard the motion. Any
further discussion?
Bentley: Is that okay with you, Mr. Attorney?
Rountree: Just information.
Bentley: Just exchanging information.
Crookston: Certainly.
Corrie: All those in favor say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: All aye.
Stiles: Thank you very much.
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Gordon: Mr. Mayor and Council, approximately at this time last year, Meridian received a
federal grant to hire two police officers. As a three-year grant, the first year being 75% federal
money and 25% city money. The second year is fifty-fifty, and the third year is 75% Meridian,
and 25% federal grant. The fourth year, we assume the two officers ourselves. We hired the two
officers with approval of the Council, and we went the entire year fighting the beaucracy trying
to get reimbursed for the wages and the benefits. I think I talked to every voice mail and E-mail
in Washington D.C., Virginia, Pennsylvania, New York. Some places I wasn't even really sure
who I was talking to. All of this was to no avail. In December, I finally reached the limit, the
grant had gone one full year. We had not retrieved one penny of the grant money. We spend the
entire amount out of the city budget, my budget. So I contacted Senator Kempthorne's office
here in Boise. They took it from there, and within three weeks, I received a check for the entire
year's amount which is $39,897.00. Within two days, I received another letter from the federal
government approving another grant for two more officers for the next three years. 75-50 and
25. The proposal that I have - that I've passed out, -- the Council was going to do a wage
adjustment on the police budget to allow for the new building or the temporary building that I
was moving into. And also to reimburse the police department for the over time on the crossings
for the Regio Sprinter. What I would propose is the Council approve the additional two officers
on this new grant that will cost the City $16,425.56 - is the twenty five percent match for this
year. I would like to place the money from last year's reimbursement into my budget this year to
pay that $16,000, hire the two officers. That would leave a little over $23,000 - in fact
$23,471.44 to be exact - use that to pay for the temporary building which totals $24,930.00. By
using this check instead of the budget adjustment being $49,000.00, it would cut it down to
$9,781.00 is what the City would have to come with out of this year's budget. This check would
fill the rest of the gap. Plus I would get the additional two officers. Any question?
Anderson: I have a question. When these grants, you say they show 75 and 50 and 25. Is that
regardless of what we pay our officers as a salary, they'll pay that or is that based off some type
of national standard.
Gordon: No, sir. That's based off our salary rate. That's wages and benefits. They don't pay
equipment. Now I understand that I don't have money in my budget for radios, vests, things of
this nature. I will have to get that from another area in my budget. But they do pay wages and
benefits.
Rountree: The other question - I thought we were talking about 8,000. Was that just an annual
lease payment on that temporary structure? The 8,000 that we were talking and 24 is the total
cost of it?
Gordon: No, sir. I think Councilman Rountree - back on the third page, I broke down the
temporary building. We are already in to this budget year, which we're paying $1,800 a month
for the Pine address. That totals $10,800 for this year - out of this year's budget. The remainder
of the year - six months would be at the new price which is $1,000. That would be $6,120.00,
and I think that the 8,000 that you're referring to was the set up fees, the delivery, the tear down
fees, and that. That's $8,010.00, which they require we pay up front. Does that answer your
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Rountree: Yeah, that might have been the figure I was thinking.
Gordon: That was the $8,000. The first year to - which would be six months at the old building,
six month with the new building, the tear down and the set up fees was $24,930.00 for the frrst
year. Once it's in and established, the cost for the second year is $12,240.00.
Rountree: What's the total price if we just bought it outright?
Gordon: $52,000 approximately.
Bentley: I can't remember whether the Chief pointed this out or not, but it is not - the Council
has not given the Chief in his budget the lease money for the current building they are leasing.
He's footing the bill for that out of his budget. That was another adjustment that was going to
have to be made.
Rountree: Chiet: I would say my position at this point is to look at this a little more closely. I
would say we take that reimbursement for monies we've already spend under that grant, -- yes,
included in this year's budget. Take a look at these adjustments that the Council- and I'm not
aware that the Council committed to make these adjustments - seems that there might have been
an understanding that the adjustments would be made within the existing budget. Defer the
jumping into the new grant and the two new officers until we can get this budget issue resolved.
And if there is a surplus, my preference would be looking at establishing possibly some kind of -
if you will - capitol improvements fund that would defer the rental rate on the portable, if in fact
that's what we do. We own that outright at the end of two years by a lease option type of thing.
And that could go anywhere within the city to support any other city function, at such time we
fe-establish a permanent base for the police department. So that would be my recommendatio~
is that we take a look at what expenditures you exceeding the rent that was not budgeted; what
your costs are, I would really like to see reconciliation of your expenses and budget before
committing to - adding to your base budget with an additional two officers.
Gordon: Mr. Mayor, Councilman Rountree, I don't understand reconciliation of my budget. The
Council approved me moving into the temporary building, and they were going to do a budget
adjustment, the last council did. So that's why we moved, and I've been spending that money
out of a budget that I don't have the money in. I'm already $2,000 over in that account.
Rountree: I understand. Those are the kinds of things that we need to adjust and take of with
this money - (inaudible) to hiring new people.
Gordon: Correct. Okay.
Rountree: And I need to understand because I'm still not clear on this temporary building rent
arrangement that was made. I was either asleep that night or not here, and as I recall I've only
missed one meeting. So, I need some refreshing on that.
Anderson: I would just kind of like to echo what Councilman Rountree is saying. One of the
things we learned in our Councilman 101 training is anything that needs to be done tonight you
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need to take a little more time and study it. You need to take at least a little time and look at it,
and these are first time that we've seen these figures. So I would like to have a little to look at
them and maybe discuss it in a strategic planning session about what we want to do the money
that has come back, and how we want to adjust your budget and all of those types of things.
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Corrie: Do you know what the Findings Of Facts and Conclusions Of Law came out on that
planing and zoning meeting on your trailers?
Gordon: The building? No, sir, I don't. Possibly Counselor would know. I have not seen it.
Corrie: We had the hearing, but how did the hearing go?
Gordon: Planning and Zoning asked for Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law.
Corrie: But there was not testimony to the contrary?
Rountree: -- Testimony to the contrary as I recall.
Gordon: Not on the Findings.
Anderson: One more question for Chief Gordon. Is there a deadlines on these federal grants?
Gordon: Mr. Mayor, Councilman Anderson, to my knowledge, no. But here again the trouble
that I had last year, Senator Kempthorne's office assured me there would be no problems this
year, and I can't help but believe there is a red sticker on Meridian's file back there in D.C. The
head of the grant's division called me personally, and his number 2 person called me personally
and his number three person called me personally all within an hour. So I think they know
where Meridian, Idaho is now.
Anderson: Good, with respect to the outstanding grants, are we now current on all of them?
Gordon: Yes, sir. I only have the one, and that's the two officers from last year.
Rountree: We had one from a previous year that was at 25% as I recall and one from a previous
year that paid out?
Gordon: No, sir. I've had other grants, but they were four and five years' ago. They've been up
- they were banded grants, drug grants, things of that nature. The cop's program, we've only
had the two and that was last year.
Bentley: One other comment on this. The Regia Sprinter over time that was approved by the
Council. We never did get the money in. We're waiting on final figures.
Gordon: Yes, H-4 is my final figures. But, Mr. Mayor and Councilman Anderson, to answer
your question to my knowledge there is no time limit on that. What causes the problems is the
grants are - they are requested and awarded in December, which doesn't even allow me to - and
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I brought it up prior to the budget meeting, and the decision then was to not even budget for it,
because if we didn't get it, then we would have that money committed in my budget. And that's
what we did last year and the year before. Well, true to form, wait until the budget's passed.
We're in this budget year and then they approve these two officers and it requires a 25% match.
Anderson: So if you hired three new officers in October and those became available in
December, you couldn't use that money for those three that you hired.
Gordon: No. They don't allow it to be - supplement existing employees. The figures - the
packet that I gave you has all of the figures that we're dealing with right now. To kind of
reiterate, during the budget year~ the two existing councilmen I think remember that at that time,
I requested eight police officers. Four were approved with the assurance that we would
readdress this later on this year. And I was looking at the grant at that time.
Anderson: So you definitely put these to use?
Corrie: We will take this up on the 27th of this month. Do you have anything? This is out of
line here, but do you have anything from the Committee of Parks and Rec? Okay. Counselor?
Crookston: I have nothing.
Bird: I have got a question to ask Mr. Mayor. This is the second meeting, before we go into
Executive Session, and maybe I'm out of order here and tell me if I am. Just slap me on the
head. We need to elect our president and vice president of the Council. And I would like to do
that right now, if it's not out of order.
Corrie: You can do that right now.
Bird: Okay. Can I make a motion?
Corrie: You certainly can.
Bird: I make a motion that we nominate Councilman Charlie Rountree for Council President.
Anderson: I'll second that.
Corrie: Okay, the motion is made by Mr. Bird and second by Mr. Anderson that Charlie
Rountree be elected President of the Council. Charlie do you have any - yes, no, feelings about
that?
Rountree: Well, according to the new ordinance we have, I can say no, but I would accept that if
that's the wishes of the Council.
Corrie: Okay.
Bentley: Put the new ordinances in effect. (End of Tape)
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Corrie: -- further nominations? Okay? Discussion? The motion is made that we have Charlie
Rountree to be the President of the City Council. All those in favor say aye. All those opposed?
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Bird: Mr. Mayor, I would like to -{inaudible)
Corrie: No, we can't at this point it's not going to be in effective until the next meeting and then
we can do that.
Bird: I don't have any more then.
Rountree: Y Oll've done enough.
Bird: I've done enough.
Corrie: Boy, that's pretty good - the first round out of the chute. Okay, anything else, Mr. Bird?
Bird: No, thank you.
Corrie: Mr. Bentley.
Bentley: Yes, I have several things. I have a question. Where are we at with adopting the 1997
Uniform Mechanical Code?
Smith: Mr. Mayor, Council members, I was ill the night that you had the last strategic planning
meeting. I don't know what the outcome of that was when Rod appeared before you and
presented his case as to the changes that he wished to see. And he presented a letter also.
Beyond that, I don't know what's happened.
Rountree: I think the discussion at the planning session to Rod was that he made a good
presentation, he'd made some good recommendations, we asked him to put it down in writing
which he's done. My guess it would have to be an agenda item for us to act on it. I think what
I've read in my last packet is sufficient, and hopefully you've reviewed that.
Smith: Yes.
Rountree: And if you have no further recommendations, I would say that we get that on our next
agenda and take action.
Smith: I have no other comments.
Rountree: He had some qualifications, and he was suppose to come up with a fee schedule.
Have you reviewed that?
Smith: Yes, I reviewed the fee schedule that was attached.
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Berg: Mr. Mayor, Council, if I'm not mistake~ I believe we passed that by ordinance, and my
concern is I think we'd have to have a public hearing especially if some of those fees, even
though we're complying the '94, we are now in compliance '91 Uniform Mechanical Code. And
we may have to have a public hearing noticed.
Rountree: Our discussion at that meeting also was that we wanted to go through a public hearing
process and make additional effort to make sure that those industries were notified of our hearing
and had an opportunity to provide testimony on our adoption, or proposed adoption of those
codes, and that was something Rod was going to do was get a hold of the - apparently there is an
association, and some other industries that were involved - get that information to you, Will, so
you could include them in our -
Berg: Yes. He was to do that. He has not yet, but he had several places he wanted to notify
personally with our notice. And so if that's the case, I will get with Wayne, and we will present
an ordinance with those exceptions - I mean present a notice with those exceptions.
Crookston: I think we have to have a public hearing first.
Berg: Notice with those exceptions and publicize it for a public hearing, my second of my
comment.
Bentley: We have stuff in our files on the Ida-Ore Planning and Development Association. In
there it states that this memo serves as a '98 statement of dues to the City of Meridian in the
amount of$752.73. Where are we at on this?
Corrie: We don't belong to Ore Ida, so we don't owe the dues.
Rountree: We took action about this time a year ago not to participate.
Bentley: I thought that was the case. That's why I was wondering why the bill was here.
Rountree: Well, if you pay it.
Bentley: Welcome aboard. !' d like to have some stuff added to the planning session if Mr.
Rountree cares to make a list.
Rountree: Well, I would certainly take that list on right because I see that that's a new duty.
And I'm not prepare, so I'm open. In fact I'm open to all items (inaudible).
Bentley: Fire planning.
Rountree: And can you tell me what that means?
Bentley: Yeah, buildings. There's going to be several of these grouped together. Plans for
future building for City Hall and Fire, and my question is have the new councilmen picked up
their copies of the space study?
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Berg: Yes, I talked to Ron Tolsma just this afternoon, and he was going to find that and drop it
by City Hall so that I can give it to Ron, and Walt Morrow was going to give his to Keith so that
we didn't have to go from ground zero.
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Bentley: Are both of you aware of what this is?
Anderson: No.
Bentley: Okay, ZGA did a space study for the whole city, all the offices, and planned out up to
the year, I think it's about 2010 or maybe a little bit farther as to what our space needs would be
for police, fire, city hall, and so on and so forth. And it's a good guide to help us figure out what
we need for acreages, for land, for city hall, what we need for police department, public works,
and so on. What their needs will be, and that's how we are going to design what a city hall will
look, locations, and so on and so forth.
Corrie: What's he's saying there, you have a week to read that book and be ready-
Crookston: Ready for the test.
Bentley: We need to change the ordinances that we've got hanging in fire.
Rountree: Do you have any numbers right off the top of your head? I'll get them. I'll get with
Wayne and figure out what we've got hanging in the fire. Ethics, financial fiscal policy are two
of the important ones that I can think of.
Anderson: And I'd also throw in sign ordinance. Every time it seems to come up -
Bentley: Well, Shari and I have started working on the sign ordinance. We're also working on
cellular tower ordinance. We are going to get a basic done, and we'll pass it out to everyone and
then at that point, everyone can start chipping in what they think, and I think we need to get
some commercial people involved, since they are the ones that are going to get hit by it, and get
some input from them. I would like to see something crafted that's going to be acceptable to
everybody, so we don't have to sit here and have arguments in here - discussions or whatever --
over why I need a sign on every project. Also, the police issue of the grant money and the
budget issue money.
Bird: Also I think Shari was going to bring us back zoning fees, application fees.
Corrie: Don't get too much on there.
Bentley: No, but I mean this is stuff - we may not get to all of it in one night, but we can
prioritize what we need and we can -(inaudible). Yeah, but the point is we can start thinking
about on our own some of the things we need to get done. And also I want to give a report on
the mayor's office committee, I guess you call it. We were looking at that, the three of us met,
Councilman Anderson, Attorney Prior and myself We met with Paul from ZGA, 'and we
worked over the plans came up with some better ideas. I took them before the Mayor, and he
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came up with an excellent idea of cutting down the meeting room over there and have a hallway
so you can pass through, have a way to get over to three new offices that will be created in there.
So that you weren't walking through the middle of some body's conference in the conference
room. And we moved the walls around a little bit to provide a little more space. I think we've
really cut down on the costs in what we've done. We've already budgeted and approved the
$21~OOO to do the work, but it appears that we are going to be well under budget~ probably half.
And you know, there was some real cooperation done, some real trading off of ideas. It worked
out. I passed out the plans tonight. We just drew them up today. And we're in the process of
getting the three required bids.
Rountree: I commend you all for your effort.
Bentley: And that's all I have.
Rountree: Since Tammy had nothing to report, I guess I have nothing as well, other tha~ I see
Brad is here tonight, and if Gary would permit - just give us a brief synopsis of the Tully proj ect,
where we are. I know we are in suspension of most of the items.
Bentley: We're in mud.
Rountree: We're in mud, snow, and frozen ground and thawed ground and all of that kind of
stuff I don't get too much gray hair, so I guess I'm doing okay.
Watson: It's like you said, it's a stand still right now, except for the building. When it was bid, it
was understood that that would proceed no matter what the weather conditions, and they're on
schedule for it. They started making too big of a mess with the site work, so they requested a
shut down and we gave it to them. I think we are all in agreement. But budget wise, they are
about 33% done, that's where we are.
Rountree: One thing that I am going to want to work with you on - and Gary - is we need to
figure out how to time the pressurized irrigation with the need to be able to move the trees
sometime in March. So~ that's going to be a real exercise. We may have to put them in the
ground on a temporary basis out at the water reservoir site. But they are going to have to be in
the ground and being watered in March sometime, or we are going to lose them.
Watson: The irrigation system definitely won't be up and running then.
Rountree: No, I'm not worried about it being up and running, but just being laid out.
Watson: It won't be laid out. Even when we bid this, we have a very detailed plan of it, but my
experience with the golf course that the best laid plans when it comes to sprinkler installation -
installation plans.
Rountree: If we could have a discussion with the contractor on that to figure out how we can
work within his schedule to know what we need to do with those, because I would have to lose -
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Watson: Okay.
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Rountree: Ifwe have to hold them over, move them twice, then I guess we'll have to do that. If
he knows of a way, pick his brai~ and see what kind of an answer he might come up with.
Because definitely we don't want to get in his way because I know it's going to cost us more
money if we do.
Watson: Okay.
Rountree: Thanks for the update.
Bentley: Can't we just fill them in with sawdust?
Rountree: They are now, but they need to be in the ground after they start to break bud. They're
pretty good size specimens. They're not going to hold well in the sawdust. At least that's what
I've been told by the experts.
Bentley: Yeah, I don't know how big they are so I don't know.
Rountree: I'm not a tree expert even though it's part of my name.
Anderson: Yeah, but yours in round. I've never seen a round tree.
Corrie: Mr. Anderson?
Anderson: Nothing?
Corrie: I'd like to congratulate Charlie for being nominated and elected the president of the
Council. You will need to get some cards signed for signature cards, and Will can take care of
that so just come in -
Rountree: Thursday, -- I'm going to be on the road all day long. I'll be in Thursday if you can
arrange that. .
Berg: Sure.
Bentley: Two more things before I forget. First off, I am meeting Thursday with Lance Johnson
from I.T.D. We're having discussions, we're meeting on top of the overpass on Meridian Road.
We are going to be discussing pedestrian safety up there. Chief Gordon is going to be there with
us providing pedestrian safety. I've got a real concern with Boondocks opening. There are
suppose to open spring break in March. And there is absolutely no way to get across there, kids
on bikes, walking. They have no sidewalk paths there. And the scary thing is that guard rail
strikes you in the knee. Kids being kids and the horseplay, I'm afraid we are going have
somebody on the hood of some body's car on the freeway if something isn't done. >Originally, --
for the new councilmen that don't know this, -- originally, there was suppose to be a foot bridge
put on for the cost of somewhere around a quarter of a million. Then the plans came out to
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totally rebuild the overpass and those monies were moved to a different project, instead building
and then ripping out. As ofa week ago, Walt Morrow told me that that bridge had been totally
move off the five year plan.
Rountree: I would point out that just last week, I believe, the department put out an application
for enhancement projects, which would include transportation, pedestrian kinds of add ons, a
bike path if you will, so I would suggest that Gary get with AP ~ or Shari get with AP ~ make
sure that they get us that application and that we put together something - reapply for that
project.
Bentley: If I may add before you respond there, Gary. Ada Planning Association and ACHD
approached I.T.D. on this, and I have copies of the letters and I.T.D. said they were not planning
on doing anything with the bridge, and that's when I responded back to I.T.D. directly. And they
called me immediately and wanted to set up a meeting out there to discuss the issues. I don't
whether they were even aware of Boondocks existence out there. But it's getting pretty close to
being completed. So hopefully with what they see - because I'm going to take them on-site also
over there and show them what's going to be there so we can get some sort of response.
Corrie: What we did too - or what Mr. Bentley did was put r.T.D. on notice that the liability is
in their court now. We've told them about the possibilities and they haven't - I don't know how
much legal it will carry, but at least they know about it now. And I gave that to Shari on the AP A
to look at that. So- I
Smith: Mr. Mayor and' Councilman Rountree, that enhancement money, as I understand it, is an
80% federal 20% local split, so whatever the cost of the project would be, the City would need to
come up 20%.
Rountree: Unless we can plead our case and get a hundred percent. It can be a hundred percent.
Smith: It can be?
Rountree: The selection criteria, I believe, is based on the local's ability to match and of course
those project that are matched at a higher rate are probably going to get selected above those that
are going to seek a hundred percent. But I think it's something that memory serves me right the
situation was similar on Wild Waters in Boise when they were there at Cole. There was an awful
lot of pedestrian traffic over the fence=, over the right-of-way fence, and didn't even bother to go
through the Cole intersection. They just crossed the interstate there. I see that -
Smith: Right.
Rountree: I didn't even think about it, but that's going to happen there as well.
Bentley: Chief mentioned that.
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Rountree: So, I think that pointing that out to the department may help the selection and -
you're right, at a minimum we'd have to come up with the 20% of whatever project that cost
might be.
Smith: A couple of other things about that interchange. Council Bentley is right. It has been
removed from the five-year plan. Secondly, there's a quarter study that's going on right now
through I.T.D. for location of interchanges along I. 84 from Boise to Caldwell, I guess. I don't
know the limits of that, but that interchange is not in very good condition. We've been patching
the deck. Last year they patched the deck where the rebar was showing or where it was - the
concrete was falling away. There were three different alternatives that were proposed at one
time to provide pedestrian access across the interstate, and they ranged from narrowing of the
lanes to striping a pedestrian walkway to constructing a separate free standing structure. And I
think the prices range from very little for striping and narrowing the lanes to some where around
$400,000 for a free standing structure. In the short period of time that we have to work with, it
appears that we did to react, or the state needs to react fairly quickly with some kind of a
preventative. I don't know what that would be, whether it's access - pedestrian access
prohibited period. Or if some other means would be available to narrow those lanes. I travel that
overpass often from where I live to where I work, and in the mornings two lanes of traffic each
way and a center turn lane does not leave much room.
Rountree: No, it's an old structure.
Smith: And to restripe that for an access for pedestrians I think would be as dangerous as
anything. And in the short term, when I was thinking about it today when the Mayor mentioned
it at the chamber meeting, just right off the top of my head, "pedestrian access prohibited".
Bentley: But who's going to enforce it?
Smith: Well, I don't know the answer to that question, Councilman. But from a liability
standpoint, I think something needs to be done, and I guess that's I. T.D.'s liability then; is that
right, the overpass and the approaches to the overpass? The other thing that's happening out
there is this year there will be about 150,000 dollars spent by the state in adding a turn lane on
the westbound off ramp. And I don't know - it wasn't clear at our transportation meeting
whether that was a right turn lane or left turn lane, but it's going to be an improvement there.
Rountree: I believe it's a two left hand turning movements. The subgrade's already built to
accept that lane. It's just a matter of paying it.
Smith: I see. The lady from District 3 that was there, the planning.
Rountree: Sonna Lynn Lewis - James.
Smith: Yes. She wasn't absolutely certain. I think that's what she theorized too that it was a
double left hand turn. And there's also some that are being made for - I want to say it's the other
half of the Clover; is that right, Charlie or is that -
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Rountree: There was at one point in time, but I don't know if that's been resurrected or not,
Gary. Lance will know when Glenn meets with him. Lance will know what it is that they are
working with out there.
Smith: Well, anyway, there's some improvements planned for the interchange, but replacing it is
not in the plan. Thank you.
Rountree: That's it for me.
Corrie: Also, Tom Kuntz will be on board 8:00, January the 29th, his first day, Thursday. And
Keith, do we need to get with you or have the three contractors for the Mayor's officer over there
to the cost of that window possibly?
Bird: Not with me. No.
Rountree: Not unless you are going to donate it.
Bird: We might look at that but -
Corrie: I just need somebody from your company to give us - the contractors, can they go into
your place of business -
Bird: Yeab, they can get it done.
Corrie: It's not you, it's them. All right. Hearing nothing else, I would entertain a motion to go
into executive session for the purpose of personnel and union discussion according to state code.
Bentley: Mr. Mayor, one point, do we have the names prepared for the traffic safety committee?
Corrie: Yes, we do. But you will have them probably Tuesday evening of the 27th and it will get
voted on the 3rd of February.
Rountree: That's seven folks?
Corrie: Nine.
Bentley: Three at large.
Corrie: Three at large. I have the three at large names.
Bird: Motion Mayor (to go into Executive Session)? So moved.
Anderson: I'll second.
Corrie: Motion made and second. All those in favor say aye?
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MOTION CARRIED: All aye.
(EXECUTIVE SESSION)
Corrie: Okay, I'll call the meeting the back to order at 10:35 P.M. We are out of Executive
Session. No decision was made at the Executive Session.
Rountree: Mr. Mayor, I would move that we notice an executive session scheduled for
Thursday, January 22nd at 6:30 P.M. and notice an executive and special meeting on Friday, the
23rd of January.
Corrie: That will be a joint meeting with the -
Rountree: Joint meeting with the Rural Fire District.
Anderson: I'll second it.
Corrie: Motion made and second of the joint meetings for the executive and special meetings on
Thursday and Friday the 22nd and 23rd 6:30 P.M. Any further discussion? All those in favor of
the motion say aye. No one oppose, all ayes.
MOTION CARRIED: All ayes.
Corrie: Would you have pizza ordered for that night, and if we do have a meeting on Friday,
there's a possibility we might not if we get it all done then. We can have some sandwiches or
something for that night.
Anderson: Mr. Mayor, I make a motion that we adjourn.
Bird: I will second it.
Corrie: Motion made and second. All those in favor say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: All aye.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 10:37 P.M.
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MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
AGENDA
TUESDAY, JANUARY 20, 1998 -7:30 P.M. '
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ROLL CALL: ~RON ANDERSON "I- CHARLIE ROUNTREE
GLENN BENTLEY =Z=KEITH BIRD
MAYOR ROBERT CORRIE
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MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING HELD JANUARY 6, 1998: app-rov.e..-
TABLED DECEMBER 2, 1997: FINAL PLAT FOR DEVLIN PLACE
SUBDIVISION BY D.W. INC.: -Izt
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TABLED JANUARY 6, 1998: REQUEST FOR INSTALLATION OF SEPTIC
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REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE ~ERMIT FOR A TV BROADCASTING
STATION HOPE TV 22 WITH MICROWAVE DISH STRUCTURES TO BE
PLACED ON ROOF, SATELLITE DISHES ON ROOF AND NEAR BUILDING BY
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ORDINANCE NO. 785
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN AMENDING TITLE I, CHAPTER 7,
THE COUNCIL, OF THE REVISED AND COMPILED ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF
MERIDIAN BY THE ADDITION OF NEW SECTION TO BE KNOWN AS SECTION 1-
708 TO SET FORTH AND ESTABLISH A PRESIDENT AND VICE-PRESIDENT OF
THE CITY COUNCIL; ESTABLISHING THE TERMS OF OFFICE OF BOTH THE
PRESIDENT AND VICE-PRESIDENT; ESTABLISHING THE DUTIES OF EACH; AND
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
WHEREAS,
Section 50-701,
Idaho Code,
states that the
legislative authority of each City in the State of Idaho shall be
vested in a council and that such council shall have such powers
and duties as are now or may hereafter be provided under the
general laws of the State of Idaho.
WHEREAS, Section 1-701, of the Revised and Compiled Ordinances
of the City of Meridian, states that councilmen shall perform all
duties by the nature of their office that they should reasonably
perform.
WHEREAS, the Mayor and the City Council of the City of
Meridian, State of Idaho, have concluded that it is in the best
interest of the City to amend Title I, Chapter 7, of the Revised
and Compiled Ordinances of the City of Meridian, by amending that
Title and Chapter, to add a new Section thereto to set forth and
establish a President and Vice-President. The President and Vice-
President shall have the duties, rights and obligations as set
forth in Section 1 below, and others as established by the City
Council.
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NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT ORDAINED BY THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, ADA COUNTY, IDAHO:
SECTION 1: That Title I, Chapter 7, CITY COUNCIL I lS
here~y amended to add and enact Section 1-708, which shall read as
follows:
1-708: PRESIDENT AND VICE-PRESIDENT OF THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL
HAVE THE FOLLOWING DUTIES, RIGHTS, AND OBLIGATIONS:
A. The City Council, by their own action, shall elect
a City Councilman to serve as the President of the City
Council. The vote shall be a majority vote by the City
Council. The vote shall be at the second City Council
meeting of the year, in January. The City Councilman
nominated to be elected as the President shall have the
right to decline the nomination and shall have the right
to vote to approve or reject his own nomination; if the
Councilman nominated to be elected as President is
rej ected by the vote, the Ci ty Council shall make another
nomination and they shall continue to do so until a
Councilman is elected as President.
B. The President shall serve a one year term. He may
serve two consecutive terms but not more than two
consecutive terms of one year each term; a Councilman may
serve as President again but shall not serve as President
for more than two consecutive terms.
C. The President shall have the authori ty to I and
shall, act as the Mayor of the City during the absence or
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disabili ty of the Mayor until the Mayor returns, as
required under 50-608, Idaho Code.
D. The President may sign warrants along wi th the other
required City officers.
E. The President, with City Council concurrence, shall
establish and set the agenda for budget, legislative, and
strategic planning issues at City Council meetings; he
shall assign duties of all the City Councilmen and
oversee all of the City Council affairs.
F. The City Council, by their own action, shall elect
a City Councilman to serve as the Vice-President of the
City Council. The vote shall be a majority vote. The
vote shall be at the second City Council meeting In
January. If the Councilman nominated to be elected as
Vice-President is rejected by the vote, the City Council
shall make another nomination and they shall continue to
do so until a Councilman is elected as Vice-President.
G. The Vice-President shall have the authority to, and
shall, act as the President of the City Council during
the absence or disability of the President. If both the
Mayor and City Council President are absent from the
City, the Vice-President shall have the authority to, and
shall, act as the Mayor of the City during the absence of
the Mayor and Council President.
H. The President of the City Council shall act as the
liaison between the City Council and the City Attorney on
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legislative matters.
I · The President and the Vice-President shall have any
duties, other than those mentioned above, stated by the
City Council.
SECTION 2: EFFECTIVE DATE: WHEREAS I there is an emergency
therefor I which emergency is hereby declared to exist I this
Ordinance shall be in full force and effect from and after its
passage, approval and publication according to law.
PASSED AND APPROVED this 20th day of January
CITY OF MERIDIAN
I 1998.
ATTEST:
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BEFORE THE MERIDIAN PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
WILLIAM B. HULL AND PHIL HANSEN, APPLICANTS
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR
A TELEVISION BROADCASTING STATION
230 S. Meridian Road
MERIDIAN, IDAHO
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
The above entitled conditional use permit application having
come on for consideration on December 9, 1997, at the hour of 7:30
o'clock p.m. on said date, at the Meridian City Hall, 33 East Idaho
Street, Meridian, Idaho, and the Planning and Zoning Commission
having heard and taken oral and written testimony and the Applicant
appearing in person, and having duly considered the matter, the
Planning and Zoning Commission makes the following Findings of Fact
and Conclusions of Law:
FINDINGS OF FACT
1. That a notice of a public hearing on the Conditional Use
Permit was published for two (2) consecutive weeks prior to the
said public hearing scheduled for December 9, 1997, the first
publication of which was fifteen (15) days prior to said hearing;
that the matter was duly considered at the December 9, 1997,
hearing; that the public was given full opportunity to express
comments and submit evidence; and that copies of all notices were
available to newspaper, radio and television stations.
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
WILLIAM B. HULL AND PHIL HANSEN -- HOPE TV
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2~ That the property is located within the City of
Meridian; that the general location of the property is at 230 South
Meridian Road, Meridian, Idaho, and described in the application
which description is incorporated herein.
3. That the property is currently zoned C-G, General Retail
and Service Commercial.
4 .
That
the
zoning of General Retail
and Service
Commercial, (C-G) is defined in the Zoning Ordinance at 11-2-408 B.
11. as follows:
(C-G) General Retail and Service Commercial: The purpose of
the (C-G) District is to provide for commercial uses which are
customarily operated entirely or almost entirely within a
building; to provide for a review of the impact of proposed
conunercial uses which are auto and service oriented and are
located in close proximity to major highway or arterial
streets; to fulfill the need of travel-related services as
well as retail sales for the transient and permanent motoring
public. All such districts shall be connected to the
Municipal Water and Sewer systems of the City of Meridian, and
shall not consti tute strip commercial development and
encourage clustering of commercial development;
5. That 11-2-409 B states that a television station is only
allowed as a conditional use in the C-G district.
6 . That the Applicant is not the owner of record of the
property; that the owner of record is Eugene Quintieri, that the
owner has submitted a consent to this application.
7 . That the property is currently occupied by the T. V.
station awaiting approval of the conditional use permit.
8 . That the proposed use by the Applicant is to use the
existing building north of the bowling alley on Meridian Road, as a
Television Broadcasting Station (HOPE TV 22-UHF) .
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
WILLIAM B. HULL AND PHIL HANSEN -- HOPE TV
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9. That the Applicant, William Hull, stated at the hearing
that the conditional use was for the placement of a ten foot (10')
television dish on the south side of the station's building. That
the use would also allow microwave and satellite dishes on the roof
of the building.
10. Commissioner Borup expressed his concern about the
parking and landscaping and its potential impact on the Meridian
Road expansion.
Mr. Hull responded that the landlord sold 13
inches of property to the Highway Department in order to expand a
sidewalk and to modify the entrance to the building.
Mr. Hull
noted that the space for parking should remain unchanged.
11. Commissioner Borup inquired as to whether the television
station was currently operating, and whether the station obtained a
license from the F.C~C.. Mr. Hull responded that all the licenses
have been obtained from the F.C.C. and that the television station
was awaiting the conditional use permit before beginning
operations.
12. Commissioner Borup inquired about the size of the
television dish that will be placed. on the south side of the
building. Mr. Hull noted that it would be a ten foot (lO') dish.
13. Commissioner Johnson inquired about the operating hours
of the business.
Mr. Hull responded that the television station
would operate from 8 to 5, with someone occasionally there until
10:00 p.m.
14 . The Assistant to the Ci ty Engineer, Bruce Freckleton,
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
WILLIAM B. HULL AND PHIL HANSEN -~ HOPE TV
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and the Planning and Zoning Administrator,
Shari Stiles,
submitted comments which are incorporated herein as if set forth
in full herein; that the proposed television station is to be
located in an existing building north of the bowling alley on
Meridian Street.
That any existing irrigation/drainage ditches
crossing the property to be included in this project, shall be
tiled per City Ordinance 11-9-605 M.
Plans will need to be
approved by the appropriate irrigation/drainage district, or
lateral users association, with written confirmation of said
approval submitted to the Public Works Department.
Tha t the
handicap parking, associated signage and building construction
shall meet the requirements of the Americans wi th Disabilities
Act.
All signs must meet the requirements of the Uniform Sign
Code and Meridian City Ordinance. Flashing lights and temporary
signs will not be permitted.
All signs are subj ect to review
and approval of the Planning and Zoning Department.
Sign
permits are to be obtained prior to construction or installation
of any sign. Upon three days' notice to any tenant, the City of
Meridian may remove any unauthorized signage.
Screened trash
enclosures are to be provided in accordance with City Ordinance.
Coordinate dumpster site locations with the City's solid waste
contractor, Sanitary Services, Inc.
Also, they are to locate
the dumpsters so as not to impede fire access. All driveway and
parking areas shall be paved, with all driveway accesses
approved by the Ada County Highway District. All site drainage
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shall be contained and disposed of on-site.
All driveway and
parking stall dimensions shall comply with Meridian City
Ordinance.
Specific comments for the site are that sanitary
sewer service to this site will be via existing services. Water
service for this development shall be via existing services.
The site shall not provide any increased lighting plans to the
Meridian Public Works Department.
Illumination of the site
shall be designed to not cause glare or adversely impact
neighboring residential properties or the traveling public, as
determined by the City of Meridian. The parking adjacent to
Meridian
Road will
be
eliminated
when
the
street
is
reconstructed and does not meet the dimensions required by City
Ordinance.
Meridian Road is an entrance corridor; this parcel
needs to be appropriately landscaped in accordance with
Ordinance Section 11-2-414 D 2; and one 3" caliper tree per
1,500 square feet of asphalt is required.
That the Applicant or owner is to provide a recorded Warranty
Deed showing that the additional needed right-of-way has been
dedicated prior to obtaining building permits or other required
permits.
That the Applicant is to provide a Certificate of Compliance
with F.C.C. regulations prior to occupying building/operating
station, and Applicant is to ensure no interference with
existing frequencies will result from operation.
15. Central District Health Department, Meridian City Police
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
WILLIAM B. HULL AND PHIL HANSEN -- HOPE TV
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Department, Nampa & Meridian Irrigation District, the Ada County
Highway District and the Sewer Department submi tted conunents and
they are hereby incorporated herein.
That the Meridian Fire
Department Chief, Ken Bowers, commented that all Codes will need
to be met.
16. Commissioner Johnson closed the hearing.
CONCLUSIONS
1. That all the procedural requirements of the Local
Planning Act and of the Ordinances of the City of Meridian have
been met including the mailing of notice to owners of property
within 300 feet of the external boundaries of the Applicant's
property.
2. That the City of Meridian has authority. to grant
conditional uses pursuant to 67-6512, Idaho Code, and, pursuant to
11-2-418 of the Revised and Compiled Ordinances of the City of
Meridian.
3. That the City of Meridian has authority to place
conditions on a conditional use permit and the use of the property
pursuant to 67-6512, Idaho Code, and pursuant to 11-2-418 (D) of the
Revised and Compiled Ordinances of the City of Meridian, Idaho.
4. That 11-2-418 C of the Revised and Compiled Ordinances
of the City of Meridian sets forth the standards under which the
Planning and Zoning Commission and the City Council shall review
applications for Conditional Use Permits; that upon a review of
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those requirements and a review of the facts presented and the
conditions of the area, the Planning and Zoning Commission
concludes as follows:
a. The use, would in fact, constitute a conditional use and
a conditional use permit is required by ordinance.
b. The use should be harmonious with and in accordance with
the Comprehensive Plan and Zoning Ordinance.
c. The use apparently would be designed and constructed to
be harmonious in appearance with the intended character of the
general vicinity.
d. That the use would not be hazardous nor should it be
disturbing to existing or future neighboring uses.
e. The property has sewer and water service available.
f. The use would not create excessive additional
requirements at public cost for public facilities and services
and the use would not be detrimental to the economic welfare
of the community.
g. The use would not involve a use, activity, process,
material, equipment or conditions of operation that would be
detrimental to person, property or the general welfare by
reason of excessive production of traffic or noise.
h. That sufficient parking for the property and the
proposed use will be required.
i. The development and uses will not result in the
destruction, loss or damage of a natural or scenic feature of
major importance.
5. That all ordinances of the City of Meridian must be met,
including but not limited to, the Uniform Building Code, Uniform
Fire Code, Uniform Plumbing Code, Uniform Electrical Code, the Fire
and Life Safety Code, all parking and landscaping requirements;
that the Applicant shall meet wi th Shari Stiles to work out an
acceptable landscape plan.
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
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6. That the comments of the Assistant to the City Engineer,
Planning and Zoning Administrator,
City Police and Fire
Departments, Ada County Highway District (ACHD), Central District
Health Department, and Nampa-Meridian Irrigation District, must be
complied with.
7. The above conditions are concluded to be reasonable and
the Applicant shall meet these conditions.
8. It is recommended that if the Applicant meets the
conditions stated above that the Conditional Use Permit be granted
to the Applicant.
APPROVAL OF FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS
The Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby adopts and
approves these Findings of Fact and Conclusions.
ROLL CALL
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COMMISSIONER NELSON
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CHAIRMAN JOHNSON (TIE BREAKER)
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
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DECISION AND RECOMMENDATION
The Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby recommends
to the City Council of the City of Meridian that they approve the
Conditional Use Permit requested by the Applicant for the property
described in the application with the conditions set forth in the
Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law and any others required by
the City Council.
MOTION:
DISAPPROVED:
1-7-98 -- Final
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
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APPROVAL OF FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS
The Meridian City Council hereby adopts and approves these Findings of Fact.
and Conclusions of Law on this 2017::- day of ;r;!JvVLCn!j- , 1997 8
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Dear Shari:
On behalf of the owners of the project referenced above, Quadrant Consulting respectfully
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fee for the extension is attached to this letter. If you have any questions please call.
T11anks for your consideration.
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December 30, 1997
Ms. Shari Stiles
City of Meridian
33 E. Idaho Avenue
Meridian, Idaho 83642
Re: Honor Park No.3 Subdivision - Non-Developnlent Agreelnent
Dear Shari:
Enclosed for your review and approval is a draft copy of the non-development agreement for
Honor Park No.3 Subdivisioll. Please note tllat a copy Oft]lis agreement was sent to Rick
Clinton for his files.
Please call me if your have allY questions.
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Non-Developlnellt Agreell1ent
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Bill Hall
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1111 S. Orchard, Suite 600 · Boise, Idaho 83705 · (208) 344-9700 Fax# (208) 345-295
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NONDEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT
This AGREEMENT, made and entered into this day of 1997,
by and between William A. Hon , whose address is 3010 W. State Street. Suite 101.
Boise, Idaho 83703 hereinafter referred to as "DEVELOPER," and CITY OF MERIDIAN,
a municipality of the State of Idaho, acting by and through its Council Members, hereinafter
referred to as IICITY.II
WI TN E SSE T H:
WHEREAS, DEVELOPER is currently the Owner of all real property and subdivision
lots contained in Honor Park Subdivision NO.3 Ada County, Idaho, recorded as
instrument No. records of Ada County, Idaho; and,
WHEREAS, DEVELOPER desires now to withhold development of street, utility and
lot improvements and sale of Honor Park Subdivision NO.3 Lots 17, 18, 19, 21 through 28,
Block 2 in said subdivision (hereafter "Undeveloped Lots") also described on attached
Exhibit A:
NOW, THEREFORE, in consideration of the mutual covenants and agreements
contained herein, the parties of this agreement agree as follows:
DEVELOPER hereby agrees that no improvements will be installed in said
Subdivision lots as required by the CITY, without the prior written permission of the CITY.
If DEVELOPER desires to install any of the said improvements for said lots, then
DEVELOPER shall submit a written request to the CITY which shall contain a detailed
description of the limited improvements which are desired and estimated time and cost to
complete such improvements. The CITY reserves the right to require an irrevocable letter
of credit or cash deposit Surety Agreement in amounts sufficient to secure the full and
adequate performance of DEVELOPER upon such stated improvements and detailed
construction plan if the DEVELOPER desires to sell lots prior to completion of required
improvements: Such Surety deposits will be figured at the prevailing construction costs
determined by the CITY.
DEVELOPER herein agrees that when developer does desire to develop, the
required improvements shall meet the City Standards and Specifications in effect at that
time.
DEVELOPER further agrees not to sell any of the above referenced lots in said
subdivision during the term of this agreement, or until a new irrevocable letter of credit or
cash deposit Surety Agreement has been issued and delivered to the CITY, or until the
required improvements of said Subdivision are completed in accordance with then current
CITY standards and specifications. DEVELOPER acknowledges that this Agreement will
be recorded with the County Recorder of Ada County, Idaho, to provide public notice to
prospective purchasers of the temporary restraint on conveyancing. At such time as this
Agreement terminates, the CITY agrees to release DEVELOPER from such restraint, and
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to duly file and record with the County Recorder of Ada County an appropriate release.
DEVELOPER and CITY specifically understand and agree that for the purpose of
this Agreement, the status of the undeveloped lots in said Subdivision will be as though
plats thereof had not been filed, this Agreement is not intended and does not affect CITY
requirements heretofore complied with by the DEVELOPER and obtained by said
DEVELOPER, except as expressly agreed to and contained in this Agreement.
This Agreement shall terminate on the 31 st day of December 1999; When this
agreement terminates, DEVELOPER shall have two (2) years to complete development;
if development is not completed on the 31 st day of December 2001, approval of the
"undeveloped lots" portion of the plat shall be null and void and any further development
of the property shall require additional approval. If the Developer does not complete
development on or before the above date, CITY shall record a statement that approval of
the plat for the subdivision is null and void and that approval for the "undeveloped lots"
portion of the subdivision has been voided.
This Agreement shall be mute to the benefit of, and be binding upon, the heirs,
executors, administrators, assignees and successors of the respective parties.
NOTARY PAGE
ATTEST
Robert D. Corrie, Mayor
City of Meridian
William A. Hon
Developer
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On this day of 19_ before me, a Notary Public in and for said
County and State, personally appeared William A. Hon , known to me to be the
Developer of Honor Park #3 Subdivision ,which executed the foregoing instrument, and
acknowledged to me that he executed the same.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my official seal, the
day and year in this certificate first above written.
Notary Public for the State of
Re'siding at
My Commission Expires:
(SEAL)
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STATE OF IDAHO)
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COUNTY OF ADA)
CITY OF MERIDIAN
On this _ day of , 19_, before me, Notary Public in
and for said County and State, personally appeared Robert D. Corrie I known to me to be the
Mayor of the City of Meridian that executed the said instrument on behalf of said City of
Meridian, and acknowledged to me that he executed the same.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my official seal, the
day and year in this certificate first above written.
(SEAL)
Notary Public of the State of Idaho
Residing at Boise, Idaho
My Commission Expires:
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southern portion, shall be developed under the
conditional use permit process;
12. All signage shall be in accordance with the
standards set forth in Section 11-2-415 of the City
of Me~~dian zoning and Development Ordi~ance. All
signage must receive design approval from the
Planning and Zoning Department. A-frame and/or
other temporary signs ~hall not. be permitted and
will be removed upon three days notice to the
Applicant. Sign permits shall be required for all
signs; also, since the Applicant's representative
stated and represented as follows:
"If you folks have an' idea of, what you want as
far as a sign we would be more than happy to
go ahead and .aqree to th~t this evening in
order to try to speed this. process along. .
.. And of course at that time that is when
we would go ahead and submit the sign plans
and the landscape plan.",
all signs shall be design approved by the City
Council, or the City Official designated by the
City Council to approve sigDs, prior to obtaining
building permits from the City; the top. of any sign
shall no be taller than twelve (12) feet above the
surface of Fairview. Avenue, shall not be larger
than one hundred twenty square feet, and shall be
"monument" type signs and not be supported by more
than one pole, or standard.
13. Any construction shall be in compliance with the
Americans with Disabilities Act and all required
Uniform Codes;
14. The Applicant shall be responsible for the
construction of the sewer mains to an9 through the
development. The Applicant shall coordinate sewer
main sizes and locations with the City of Meridian
Public Works Department. Any development plans
shall be submitted to the Public Works Department
for its review' and approval;
15 · As the treatment capacity of the Meridian
Wastewater Treatment Plant is currently being
evaluated, the approval of this application shall
be contingent upon the City'S ability to accept the
additional sanitary sewage generated by this
'development;
16. If'the Applicant receive approval from the Idaho
Department of Water Resources to use an existing
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW - Page 19.
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RE: Linder & Cherry Lane Property
To: Shari Stiles
City of rveridian
Dear Shari,
As per our lTEeting of January 8th, we hereby request to appear before the city on January 20th. )
For an overview to hear the city's opinion of the Cherry Lane/Linder property. ~~rf/( ~~t'~
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Ken Sorrells
Mike Stipa
RF.A1~ Real Estate Professionals
29 E. Fairview Avenue
~ Meridian, Idaho 83642
~ Office: (208) 887-6655 or 1-800-574-6772
Fax: (208) 887-1111
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to: Gary Smith, PE
CC: File
from: Brad Watson, E.lT. ;f4..J
re: Turtle Creek Subdivision
date: January 20, 1998
Because the subject of Turtle Creek is on the agenda for tonight's Council meeting, I thought it
may help to summarize some of the issues.
1)
The time extension for recording the final plat expires March 20, 1998. Development
plan approval expires September 12, 1998. DEQ plan approval expires September 15,
1998. A pre-construction meeting was held October 6, 1997. Corps of Engineers
approval of the Five Mile Creek sewer crossing expires September 2, 1999.
The budget for Tully Park, which I gave you earlier today, reflects the project costs
assuming the City will have to build the pump station at the same prices bid last fall by
Masco as part of the Turtle Creek project. Question for Crookston: even if Masco
extended the same price to the City for constructing the pump station, can the City
enter into a contract when it was not formally bid by the City? Probably not. If the
City must construct the pump station by formal bid, we should do it (or at least the check
structure) immediately.
Is NMID still willing to pay for the construction of the check structure in Five Mile
Creek?
I spoke with Deon Connell of Mas co last week and again today. They completed the
majority of the tiling of Settlers Canal last fall. They did not, however, make the final
tie-in just to the north of Monaco Way or the first 300' off of Linder Road. Last fall the
temporary cofferdam they constructed near Monaco was
leaking water into the street. Dean said they were "$100,000
into the project and hadn't been paid." He is going to look at
his original bid and see what it would cost to make the final
tie-in. This must be finished prior to irrigation season to
prevent Monaco Way from flooding out.
Bruce F. has probably already told you but the Turtle Creek
property is being held by Key-Bank. Phil Kirby supposedly
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City of Meridian
33 East Idaho Ave.
Meridian, Idaho 83642
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is still interested in completing the project himself Bruce also let Bill Buckner know
about it. Kirby told Bruce he was ready and willing to run with it but Key Bank couldn't
make up their mind what to do. Bruce gave me a contact at Key Bank that I can follow
up with.
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open and arive on in to the cente.!;' of to~.;rnJ adding to thlti
congestion there that doesnPt need to be added.
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