HomeMy WebLinkAbout2026-07-07 Work Session Meridian City Council Work Session July 7, 2026.
A Meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 4:30 p.m. Tuesday, July 7,
2026, by Mayor Robert Simison.
Members Present: Robert Simison, Luke Cavener, Liz Strader, Doug Taylor, Anne Little
Roberts and Brian Whitlock.
Members Absent: John Overton.
Other Present: Chris Johnson, Bill Nary, Christina Barney, Tracy Basterrechea, Shawn
Sopoaga, Brandon Clyde, Steve Siddoway, Shawn Harper and Dean Willis.
ROLL-CALL ATTENDANCE
X Liz Strader X Brian Whitlock
_X_Anne Little Roberts John Overton
_X_ Doug Taylor _X_Luke Cavener
X Mayor Robert E. Simison
Simison: Council, we will call the meeting to order. For the record is July 7th, 2026, at
4:30 p.m. We will begin this afternoon's work session with roll call attendance.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
Simison: Next item up is adoption of the agenda.
Little Roberts: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Little Roberts.
Little Roberts: Mr. Mayor, I move that we approve the adoption of the agenda as
published.
Whitlock: Second.
Simison: Have a motion and a second to approve the adopted agenda. Is there any
discussion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay? The ayes have it
and the agenda is agreed to.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
CONSENT AGENDA [Action Item]
1. Approve Minutes of the June 16, 2026 City Council Work Session
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2. Approve Minutes of the June 16, 2026 City Council Regular Meeting
3. Approve Minutes of the June 23, 2026 City Council Work Session
4. Centrepoint Apartments Sanitary Sewer and Water Main Easement
No. 2A(ESMT-2026-0136)
5. Approve Minutes of the June 23, 2026 City Council Regular Meeting
6. McDermott Trunk Sanitary Sewer Easement (ESMT-2026-0139)
7. Pollard Subdivision Partial Release of Sanitary Sewer Easement
(#2023-019392) ESMT-2026-0078
8. Centrepoint Apartments Sanitary Sewer and Water Main Easement
2B (ESMT-2026-0142)
9. Outer Banks Lot 1 Sanitary Sewer and Water Main Easement (ESMT-
2026-0143)
10. Gramercy Townhomes Sanitary Sewer and Water Main Easement
(ESMT-2026-0144)
11. Gramercy Townhomes Pedestrian Pathway Easement (ESMT-2026-
0145)
12. Final Plat for Windrow Subdivision No. 3, by Conger Group, located
at the northeast corner of S. Linder Rd. and W. Amity Rd.
13. Final Plat for PAW Subdivision (FP-2025-0028), by Kent Brown, Kent
Brown Planning Services, located at 1680 W. Ustick Rd.
14. Final Order for Tanner Creek Subdivision No. 2 (FP-2026-0011) by
Engineering Solutions, generally located on the north side of 1-84, 1/4
mile W. of South Meridian Rd.
15. Final Order for Dayspring Subdivision No. 2 (FP-2026-0004) by Toll
Brothers, generally located off the southeast corner of the N.
McDermott Rd. bypass and W. Ustick Rd.
16. Final Order for Dayspring Subdivision No.3 (FP-2026-0007) by Toll
Brothers, generally located 1/4 mile south of W. Ustick Rd., midway
between N. Black Cat Rd. and N. McDermott Rd.
17. Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law for Midgrove Plaza (SHP-2026-
0004) by Hillside Architecture, located at 1450 E. Franklin Rd.
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18. Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law for Apex Zenith (H-2026-0014)
by Brighton Corporation, located at southwest corner of Meridian Rd.
and Lake Hazel Rd.
19. Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law for Pollard West (H-2026-0015)
by Brighton Development, generally located on the north side of W.
Chinden Blvd., the west side of N. Levi Ave. and on the southside of
W. Waverton Rd.
20. Development Agreement (Skybreak Rim H-2026-0001) Between City
of Meridian and Gemini LLLP for Property Located Near the
Southeast Corner of S. Eagle Rd. and E. Lake Hazel Rd.
21. Approval of New Alcohol License (ALCN-2026-0009) for The Book
Lounge, LLC at 33 E. Idaho Ave. Suite 120, operating within three
hundred (300) feet of a property used for a church or any other place
of worship, or any public or private education institution
22. Approval of Construction Contract to WRS for the Sewer Main
Replacement project at King St. and authorize Procurement Manager
to sign the contract and Purchase Order for the Not-to-Exceed
amount of $829,696.66
23. Resolution No. 26-2591: A Resolution Approving Adoption of the
Community Development Block Grant Program Year 2026 Action
Plan and Submission to the United States Department of Housing
and Urban Development; Authorizing the Mayor and City Clerk to
Execute and Attest the Same on Behalf of the City of Meridian; and
Providing an Effective Date
Simison: Next up is the Consent Agenda.
Little Roberts: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Little Roberts.
Little Roberts: Mr. Mayor, I move that we approve the Consent Agenda, for the Mayor to
sign and the Clerk to attest.
Whitlock: Second.
Simison: Have a motion and a second to approve the Consent Agenda. Is there any
discussion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay? The ayes have it
and the Consent Agenda is agreed to.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
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ITEMS MOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA [Action Item]
Simison: There were no items moved from the Consent Agenda.
DEPARTMENT REPORTS [Action Item]
24. Employee Benefits Trust Update to Council with Presentation
Simison: So, we will move on to our first department report item, which is Employee
Benefits Trust update and we will turn this over to Christena Barney. Thank you for
hustling to get here. I know you were concerned you weren't going to make it in time,
but you are here so you get to go home early.
Barney: Well, Mayor, Council, thank you for having me this evening. I did try to hustle
over here so I could give this presentation. But I wanted to give you all an update on
the trust. So, the trust has been looked at by the DOI and you were provided those --
those final findings. So, as we had talked about the previous meeting, the reason that
we didn't give the preliminary findings was because not everything made it to the final.
So, we will walk through what that looks like today. If I can get this to work. Okay. So,
as I said, we will look through those audit findings. We will also look through our
financials, through quarter one of '26 and, then, give a survey summary from our
employee benefits survey. What you will not see on this presentation is the market
analysis. That is being finalized as we speak. As soon as that is finalized we will bring
it back before you. Okay. So, on the audit findings, the one thing that I want to point
out here is the financial result. So, there were no adjustments in the audit findings that
impacted the trust's net report assets. So, they looked through all of the information that
we provided them for the trust, January 2nd of 2020 through December 31 st of '24, and,
then, subsequent events through the finalization of that audit. They used a modified risk
focused examination approach, looking at conditions, governance, controls and -- and
records. So, the important thing to also know is the department noted a high level of
cooperation through that process, while identifying governance process compliance
improvements for the trust. So, we were very responsive in getting them records and
also responding to their findings. Some of the findings that came out of that DOI audit
was the minimum surplus. You all are aware that we have to maintain that minimum
surplus at all times. So, that was one of the findings that came out through that --
through the year of 2025 we were in a deficit that entire year. The other thing that came
out is the premium tax filing was not filed timely in the very beginning portions of the
trust. At that time we were not aware that we were subject to that tax filing. Once we
became aware of it we have since been on top of that and the timeliness of that filing.
And, then, just that subsequent event, just making sure that we are staying above that
surplus at all times and, again, having these conversations with you bringing that before
you and what that financial risk is and asking to get any infusions that we may need to
maintain that surplus. So, what the trust is focusing on is moving from more of reactive
corrections to providing these types of updates, so that we can be proactive in getting
the funds that we may need should we fall into a deficit. The management letter that
was provided by DOI did identify some governance, vendor controls compliance and
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actuarial controls that we needed to improve. Again, we were very responsive to DOI in
how we were going to go about that. The majority of that is amending either our bylaws
or our practices during our meetings. One of the points that I want to make sure that I
highlight is there was some concern about the bank and unsecured funds. That has
since been resolved with the bank. We are considered a governance -- government
account and so all of the funds in that account are now protected. Moving on to our
current financial status. So, this slide I wanted to provide the information. It can be a
little deceiving, so I am going to walk through some of the information I have some
notes on. So, the 3.18 million is our assets and that accounts for cash on hand and on
deposit, uncollected contributions, prepaid expenses and rebates receivable. The 2.55
million required surplus is -- does increase as our contributions increase. So, if you
remember we put in place a 17.5 percent increase this last year. That, obviously,
increases that minimum surplus. Any increase we incur this year will, again, increase
that minimum surplus that we have to maintain. And then --
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: Hi. Is it okay if I ask a quick question as you are going? So, is the cash
included in the total assets or is that like in addition to -- like are the required surplus
amounts -- is that like in addition to the total assets or is it included within that?
Barney: It's included within that.
Strader: Okay.
Barney: Good question. Thank you. And then -- so, if you take the two of those our
total net income through quarter one is 203.6 thousand. So, looking at the reserve
adequacy, which is something that the board takes very seriously and something that
we monitor on a monthly basis, if you take that surplus against the minimum
requirement we are at a 250,00 dollar shortfall come the end of quarter one. However,
there was a legislative change January 1st of '26 that requires all plans to move to a
traditional RX rebate. So, basically, what's happening is instead of the Blue Cross -- or
being able to see the claim and the rebate that's associated with that RX and, then, just
crediting us, they have to wait for the manufacturer to provide that refund and, then,
they can provide it to us. So, it is causing about a six month lag in that. We have
communicated that to DOI, they are aware and they are working with us on that. Had
we received that rebate in a timely manner we would not be in a deficit at this point. We
are continuing to monitor that and we will continue to monitor that as we go forward.
And, then, our cash on hand, which we already discussed, is 2.1, with our ending net
from our operations at just over 108.
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
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Strader: This might be more of a question for Finance, I'm not sure, but I'm curious
going forward, because we -- we have this, you know, reserve requirement that needs
to be met and it's kind of a moving target; right. And we have been -- we have just been
really close on it and we have this timing issue, which is a lag and I know ongoing
monitoring is definitely part of the solution, but I'm also curious like is it a situation where
we just -- we need like a bigger financial buffer of some kind to kind of keep us out of
that, you know, like orange light zone where we are like one percent off and we are
getting dinged and even if we monitor it quarterly we might have that happen on a pretty
regular basis. Like is there an answer around our reserves that needs to change to help
us with that or -- I'm just curious kind of what people are thinking in terms of an answer
to that, besides monitoring.
Barney: Sure. So, my personal take on this is as we go through our renewal process
building that in, knowing that we are going to have that lag, so that we can maintain that
minimum surplus and that's the requirement of DOI. This legislation, as I understand it,
came out very late and so we didn't have the opportunity to do that when we were
looking at plan designs and renewals for last year. So, we want to take that into
account for this coming year, so that we don't, you know, enter into this again. Any
other questions?
Whitlock: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Whitlock.
Whitlock: And as I understand it, the flip side of the coin is while there is a minimum
amount you have to have, they won't let you exceed a maximum amount either, so --
Barney: Oh. That is correct. It's -- it's a -- trying to thread the needle for sure.
Whitlock: Correct.
Barney: Okay. Moving on to the employee benefits survey. So, we opened the survey
in April -- April 6th of this year and, then, we closed it April 14th. It was sent to about
650 employees, 217 participated in the survey, so it's roughly a 33 percent, which is
fairly decent. I mean we always want to see more, but it's fairly decent for a survey like
this. Some of the high value benefits that came out of that is people rated medical,
retirement, vacation, sick leave and vision very highly. So, that is very important to
them. Some of the pain points is the medical plan design and we will get into more of
that in the next slide. The deductibles, out of pocket, remote work opportunities, vendor
experience and claims and RX complexity. The trust is currently looking at -- through
this market analysis what -- what can we do to address some of these pain points as we
look at plan design for next year. So, the overarching theme is the employees want
choice, clarity and cost control, as we all do. One of the things that came out of that, if
-- if we are looking at that pain point is they want more control over their medical plan
and so what we are seeing is that there are some that want a higher premium and lower
deductible and others that want a higher premium and a lower deductible. So, looking
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at two different plan design options and possibly reintroducing the high deductible plan.
We had it multiple years ago. There wasn't a whole lot of difference between the two
plans and so we didn't have a large shift in the employee population. Looking at what
we learned from that past experience and applying it forward if we decide to go this
direction, there will be a difference between those two plans to drive some of that
consumerism. So, what the trust will be working on over the next 12 months -- so, if you
are looking at zero to three, we are looking at that market analysis, which is that claims
and vendor performance analysis, reserve monitoring, plan option monitoring and
benefits communication plan. Over the next three to six months finalizing those plan
design options, revamping our benefits hub and how to guides, so getting information
into employees hands and to spouses hands, so that they know where their benefits
are, what they look like and how to utilize them and, then, preparing open enrollment
tools. Six to 12 months is implementing approved plan changes, tracking enrollment
shifts. If we do offer that high deductible plan what is that looking like? Monitor
satisfaction and, then, report outcomes. And I will stand for any questions.
Simison: Thank you. Council, any questions?
Little Roberts: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Little Roberts.
Little Roberts: Mr. Mayor and Christena, thank you so much. I wanted to say thank you
for the presentation and thank you for your service with the trust, because I read your
resignation letter and appreciate all that you have done the last six years. I do have a
question though. I was curious about you saying we pay taxes on the premiums?
Barney: Yes.
Little Roberts: But we are a government entity, we collect premiums from the
employees and, then, we pay taxes on them?
Barney: And I don't understand all the nuances of all of that, but I'm happy to get that
information back to you, but the trust, again, being a separate entity and although
government funds go into it I don't think it applies in this situation. But we have had it
legally reviewed and we are making sure we are compliant with that requirement.
Little Roberts: Okay. And I totally understand that. But I would love, just out of
curiosity, to know --
Barney: Absolutely.
Little Roberts: -- how many -- how much the taxes that we pay are.
Barney: I want to say it's roughly 2,000 dollars a year. Yeah.
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Little Roberts: Thank you.
Barney: Yeah.
Taylor: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Taylor.
Taylor: Christena, thank you and thank you for all your -- your work on the trust. Just a
quick question. When you surveyed the citizen -- or the employees did they -- was
there an interest in like a plan that included like a health savings account, as well with
the high deductible plan or is that something the trust has looked at as an option yet or
do you maybe anticipate looking at that as an option?
Barney: Typically when you -- when you offer a high deductible plan it's paired with an
HSA and that's part of the driving factor. Not only do you have a difference in plan
design, you have a difference in, you know, how -- your contribution structure and part
of that contribution goes to an HSA to help offset that high deductible.
Taylor: Okay.
Simison: And maybe to piggyback off of that, one question. Did we ask any
demographic questions to know in the respondents -- was it young employees want one
version and older employees want another or was it blind and we have no idea what
type of person replied in the survey.
Barney: It was a blind question.
Simison: Okay.
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: Can you provide that -- the survey results to the Council for us to review and
read?
Barney: I believe so, yeah.
Cavener: Great. Might be helpful just to glean any additional insight out of that. So, I
appreciate it.
Taylor: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Taylor.
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Taylor: Just one last question. Did you ask like the overall satisfaction? Like was it --
were you pleased with -- with what people thought about the plan overall? Were there
concerns that you maybe picked out from that? I'm not sure if you asked any of those
questions, but I was kind of curious if you had a general sense of what employees
thought.
Barney: I don't believe we framed the question in that fashion. It was more about what
do you find more valuable, what do you find more important, so that -- that gives the
trust tools to be able to maneuver the levers that we have to try to, you know, contain
costs, but also provide the benefit that our employee population's looking for be able to
recruit and retain our employees.
Simison: So, no additional questions? Thank you. And, again, appreciate your service.
Barney: Thank you.
Strader: Thank you so much.
25. Electronic Bicycle Presentation and Discussion
Simison: Okay. With that we will move on to Item 25, which is the electronic bicycle
presentation and discussion and I see the captain's looking like he has drawn the straw.
I won't call it short or long, but he was leaning forward, so --
Sopoaga: Sorry about that. Mr. Mayor, Council Members, good evening and thank you
for having me tonight. So, tonight I'm going to talk about our e-bike and e-motorcycle
safety initiative. It will be a brief overview of the initiative. I think if I went into full detail
we would probably go over an hour. We are holding a meeting next week where it will
go over an hour with multiple presenters. But today I try to highlight some of the main
points and facts and, then, really open it up for any questions or concerns that you may
have. So, why we are here. Obviously, you have heard from community members that
the e-bikes and e-motorcycles have been a -- a growing popularity within our city, within
the valley and, really, nationwide. From the police standpoint it has come with a lot of
different challenges for us. So, some of those were, obviously, concerns and
complaints about unsafe riding behaviors. The safety risks they present within
neighborhoods, the roadways and the pathways. Really difficulty for some people
understanding the laws and distinguishing between a bicycle, an e-bike or an e-
motorcycle and, then, lastly the danger and the risks to our youth which I think one of
the main driving factors for this is really reaching the parents and really getting an
understanding from them as far as, hey, this is -- this is a dangerous thing that we have
been dealing with. So, why this matters. This, obviously, matters because it is a
community safety issue, but I think more importantly we have been dealing with -- the
heavy users are going to be the youth typically from -- we have seen the youngest at
two or three years old, all the way really up to 16 or 17 years old and so we really want
to protect our youth and that was a driving cause for really moving forward with this
initiative. So, as I said, most riders are juveniles. Many of them are operating the
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vehicles -- most of them are e-motorcycles which travel at rates similar to that of a
motorcycle. Also there have been serious injuries here in the valley, obviously, a recent
one, throughout the nation, and we are seeing traffic collisions involving e-bikes also
within our city. Like I said, parents often don't realize -- or they choose not to realize the
dangers of e-bikes and some of them don't understand the laws as well as they should
and so as we were talking kind of within our groups internally as we were planning one
thing that we kept coming back to was the fact that most of these children -- they really
don't understand the consequences of a decision that's made in a split second while
they are going 25, 45 or 55 miles per hours, but as adults, as police leaders, as
community leaders and really as parents, you know, we obviously do or we should and
this is really why this matters to us and why we are here today. So, how we got here.
From here the -- the concerns and the complaints we obviously realized we needed a
plan, we needed a solution to move forward. We took the -- the lens from listening
before acting. Obviously, from the first complaint -- from the first calls of service
regarding or related to e-bikes we were there, we have been enforcing from the
beginning, but as far as the strategy to move forward we really wanted to, you know, I
guess take really the over -- overview approach to see what other people were doing
and to make sure we are aligned before we actually release something out. So, luckily
for us the city and the mayor and the leadership teams actually took the first step and
they created the e-bike website, which has been a great reference for us and we use it
often. Internally what we did as we planned this was we -- you know, we formed an e-
bike committee that discussed all things e-bikes, problems, concerns and solutions and,
then, really at that same time we had promotional testing for our lieutenants as part of
one of the testing processes. We had them put together an e-bike proposal or a plan
for a solution. So, we had seven candidates, we had seven proposals and we took a lot
of the information from those proposals and incorporated it into this initiative. Our
partnerships with the Ada county law enforcement agencies, we, obviously, talk with
them, they are facing the same problems. We talked about some of their solutions and
we wanted to kind of stay aligned as best as we could with what they were doing,
because we were seeing the problem all throughout the valley and so that has been
fruitful for us as well. We also didn't want to reinvent the wheel. We looked at other
communities across the nation who have been dealing with this issue for some two to
three years. We took ideas from them and found things that we thought would work
well for us. So, partnerships. We realized early on that this wasn't a problem we were
going to be able to enforce our way out of. We don't have the staffing and we don't
have the resources to do it. So, ideally this was a community policing issue where we
needed community input, community buy in and community participation. We knew
education was going to be at the forefront of that, so we collectively tried to figure out,
hey, what partnerships are going to help us reach the most people and give us the
platform we need to get our educational information out there. So, some of them are,
obviously, the city leadership team, our own police department. We have been working
hand in hand with West Ada School District, our crime prevention unit, who has access
to a lot of our community members and community groups. The community members
themselves we spent hours on phones and -- and e-mails, I'm sure you have as well,
hearing their concerns and, then, hearing their solutions as well and, then, our
community risk reduction team -- we actually met with them last week. We were kind of
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late in the game to connect with them, but we are glad we did. They kind of specialized
in a lot of these campaigns and so we look forward to kind of getting their input and
insight and what they can offer to enhance this. So, our plan is very basic. It's really
two phases to it. The educational portion, which is the foundation of it and, then, our
enforcement portion, which supports it. So, we kind of went through six steps; right?
The community concerns, which we went over. Our education and community
partnerships, which we are doing right now. Our first goal is really voluntary
compliance, you know, can we -- can the information we provide to parents and riders
reduce the risk and make -- encourage them to make safer choices. Targeted
enforcement. We have operations planned and we do have a dashboard, a data
dashboard, which kind of tells us what's going on, where it's going on, for our officers to
really take a look at and see where we need to pay more attention to and, then, overall
our goal is a safer community. You know, collectively our -- our -- our efforts leading to
safer streets, pathways and parks. If not we are going to have to take a look at the plan
and kind of adjust as we go. So, the first piece is education and public awareness our
thought was -- with this is let's come up with a plan with information we are going to put
out there and really get it to as many people in the community as possible and so, as I
said, the partnerships help with that. Our first step was our social media campaign,
which I think we have had about two messaging posts go out already within the past
week and our PIO -- Jordan is really the forefront of this with the content. We help her
out with it, but she's already got planned content coming out for really the next two
months and so we are going to run with that. Our community presentations -- we
obviously have one next week. We have a few more planned teaming up with our crime
prevention unit to get the information out, but also to answer any questions that the
community may have of us. Partnerships with West Ada School District. A big part of
this is really reaching the parents and the students and getting through their
communication channels, which my kid goes to West Ada, so I get the e-mails and the
text messages of everything that goes on. So, realizing that, they are on board for that
and we look to partner with them and get the message out. We have an educational
flyer, which is probably going to be everywhere, so you are going to see it a lot. Has
basic information on the laws, e-bikes versus motorcycles, where you can ride, where
you can't ride and it's one page and so our plan is to hand those out at events. Also to
hand them out when we provide a citation or a warning and, then, it has a QR code on
there, which links directly to our city's e-bike and motorcycle web page for further
information. I talked about crime prevention. We are teaming with them. They have a
lot of outreach events that they do, so we are going to make sure we are present and
actually producing that information regarding this initiative and, then, our risk reduction
team, which we are going to have more communication with them. We are planning on
meeting I think next week to see what they -- they have to offer, which I think will be a
lot for us, some new ideas. So, the second phase of this is our -- our enforcement
phase and, really, we are going to continue enforcing the Idaho law and our -- you know,
our belief is that accountability is essential in this initiative. So, these are kind of two
guidelines that we have and we have trained our officers in. They can access both of
them from their phones or from their computer. The one on top basically provides
information on kind of the most common codes for e-motorcycles and, then, e-bikes and
so they can refer to this if they need to. A lot of them already have it memorized,
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because we have been dealing with this for -- for a couple months now, but it's there if
they need it. The second one we have is basically kind of our enforcement guidelines.
If you read through it it kind of sections it out to -- if you, you know, contact an adult
versus a juvenile, parents and a guardian and, then, some -- some tow policies or some
tow knowledge if they are going to tow the e-bike or motorcycle. So, this has evolved
over time. I think initially we were like if you get this you are going to do this. If you get
this you are going to do this. But we realized the importance of giving our officers
discretion, that every situation isn't the same and for them to make that decision on their
own. They understand the intent of this initiative and so I think they are going to make
the right decision whenever they come into contact. Next we are -- like most things we
do we are -- we are data driven. So, this is a small picture of our e-bike and e-
motorcycle dashboard. It kind of tells you everything you need to know regarding data,
you know, where we have had contact, what time, what time of day, what day of week,
the ages and, then, some of those hotspots there where we have had the most
complaints or where we have written the most citations. So, our officers have access to
this and, you know, in their free time when they are patrolling around they can focus on
some of these areas. Also when we plan on doing directed patrol, we will use this as
really our driving force when we do that. Some of the last pieces of this is our SRO
involvement. So, they, obviously, have access to a lot of -- of the youth at their schools.
In the past couple months of school they have already been enforcing some of the e-
bike, e-motorcycle laws on campus and providing education. So, we are going to
continue with that. Our plan is really for the first day of school for them to have a stack
of flyers and hang out by the bike racks and hand those out and make sure people are
complying with the laws that govern e-bikes and e-motorcycles. So, our strategic
enforcement operation is basically our directed operation. We are going to have
operations -- we have two planned right now pretty much through August and
September where we are going to have a team of people focused just on e-bikes during
specific hours, going out, making stops, giving warnings, providing citations and, then,
lastly, but most importantly, just continue evaluation through this process. Is what we
are doing working. Are we seeing success or do we need to adapt as we -- as we move
forward and, then, pretty much lastly, really, our commitment. We can't eliminate every
crash, can't prevent every bad decision, but we can control what we can control and for
us that is to educate, which we have been doing and will continue to do. We will partner
with parents and community members, which we have been doing and will continue to
do and we can hold riders accountable, which we have been and will continue to do.
For us we think if we continue with this initiative that we will find success and for us if we
can prevent just one I think there will be many more. But if we can prevent one phone
call to a parent saying that their child has been seriously injured or worse, then, all of
this, the campaigning, the community meetings, you know, the partnerships will be more
than worth it and that's really our goal is to keep our community safe and keep our youth
safe. So, we are excited to push forward with this initiative and we are confident that we
are going to, you know, have success with it. So, with that that's the end of my
presentation and I will stand for any questions.
Simison: Thank you. Council, any questions?
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Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: Thank you so much. My district is a big red dot on your map and there is an
absolute uproar right now in district two in north central Meridian and it's really -- we
have a lot of kids and teenagers that are not using their e-bikes and e-motorcycles
responsibly. They are scaring people. They are scaring seniors. We have a lot of
parents that are reaching out for guidance. I think there is a lot of confusion about what
is technically legal and illegal right now. I thought it might be a great starting point just
to kind of go back and understand these definitions better. So, it looks like the way the
law is written -- or at least the way that you displayed the information there is a
differentiation between an e-bike and an e-motorcycle around the wattage that goes into
the device. But my question to you is going to be what are the potential speeds? Like
what are the real life speeds that you could see coming out of these two different
devices?
Sopoaga: That's a -- that's a great question, Mr. Mayor, Council Woman Strader. So,
for the e-bikes really they can't go above 28 miles per hour. As far as the e-motorcycles
I have heard ones that can reach up to 70 miles per hour.
Strader: Okay. Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: That's insane. And so I guess part of -- you know, part -- part of the -- the
concern, obviously, it looked like, if you have an e-motorcycle that needs -- that's treated
like a motor vehicle. Like if you are driving one and it's not licensed and you are a
juvenile, that should be illegal. Is that right?
Sopoaga: That's correct.
Strader: But we still have a situation where we could have a kid going 28 miles an hour
on an e-bicycle and I just -- I want to understand what does the law say around the e-
bicycles specifically? Like is it legal for a juvenile to drive an e-bike bicycle at different
speeds? Is it a gap in the law? Like help me understand where that piece sits.
Sopoaga: Mr. Mayor, Council Woman Strader, I will answer, but if -- if I need more
clarification I will ask the lieutenant. But as far as the law states to my knowledge -- so,
the classification for e-bikes are broken into three different tiers and each tier basically
says the wattage and how much the speed can go. It does not say anything in there
specifically about children and -- and how old you have to be to ride the e-bikes though.
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
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Strader: And I think where I'm struggling -- and I think other people will, too. I love that
we are educating people and we are having a campaign. I love that we are listening
and learning before we legislate. I don't think that we are a city council that loves to just
create new laws, but I'm just looking at this like this feels like a huge gap to me around
our public safety and I do think this is a newer technology and it is shocking to me that
we could have a situation where we have a child who could be going, you know, 20 --
even 20 miles an hour without a helmet on in a neighborhood and it just feels to me like
this kind of tier one, tier two, tier three thing is confusing. Like I'm wondering is there a
loophole? Like do we need to create legislation or an ordinance that's very simple, that
says something like kids can't go more than whatever -- whatever we think is
reasonable. Five miles an hour or ten miles an hour -- on any -- anything. I don't want
to see you on a motorized unicycle, I don't want you to create a rocket ship in your
backyard, I don't know what is coming in the future, but it just seems crazy to me that
we have these kids that are -- really their lives are in danger and they are going
extremely fast and I -- so, I think I -- I totally support the effort in the campaign. I just
think -- I'm worried it's not going far enough I guess is my -- my initial comment.
Sopoaga: Mr. -- Mr. Mayor, Council Woman Strader, I think that's something that we
could discuss with the chief. I know there is some people who do agree with you on
that. That's just kind of what the law says right now as far as --
Strader: Thank you.
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: Captain, I appreciate the -- and I wasn't aware of the website. I had a lot
more questions that were answered in that FAQ on the website, so I appreciate you kind
of bringing that to my attention. I think some of my questions lie right now are about
enforcement and how your department is equipped to handle current enforcement. So,
I will offer it. I -- I was -- I was looking up -- we have a -- we have an e-scooter in our --
in our home. We have had it for five years, only put 55 miles on it. So, it's not really
being utilized. In part because it -- it goes too fast. It goes 45 miles an hour, which is
why we don't use it; right? But that's a scooter that has the ability to go at a speed
higher than a lot of these bikes and a lot of these other e-motos. So, how -- how are
you and your team -- if you see somebody on an e-bike or an e-motorcycle or Mr.
Cavener on his e-scooter, how are you able to tell that this is how much this particular
device is able to go? I mean there are -- there are all sorts of these manufacturers, both
domestically and internationally, foreign based. It's got to be a challenge to say, oh, this
is Bob's e-scooter and that's going to go 20 miles an hour, but the Bob's e-motorcycle
can go 50. How are you able to discern what a device is able to do when it comes to
enforcement?
Sopoaga: Mr. Mayor, Councilman Cavener, so for the most part they talk about pegs
and pedals.
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Cavener: Okay.
Sopoaga: So, the e-bikes they have pedals.
Cavener: Yeah.
Sopoaga: The e-motorcycles they don't have pedals. But a lot of it is also our officers
-- we basically have a guideline of these pictures of what the e-bicycles look like, so a
lot of them have them kind of memorized in their head. But for the most part we do rely
on the pegs versus pedals.
Cavener: Okay. Mr. Mayor, a couple quick follow-ups.
Simison: It looks like the chief may have another addition to that.
Basterrechea: The other thing is, just for clarification, for any stop we do we have to
have reasonable suspicion. So, we can't just look at a bike and go, oh, let's stop and
see what the wattage is. There has to be a reason that we are actually making that stop
legally, so --
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: Thanks, Mr. Mayor. I wanted to ask about citations and kind of what the
repercussions are for a 14 year old or a 15 year old if they receive a citation. Is it just a
-- a fine? I recall at one point if you were cited as a unin -- or an unlicensed driver of a
motorcycle or a vehicle you are not able to get your driver's license until you are 18. Is
that still the case in Idaho law and if we -- if we cite somebody at 14 is there a fairly
lengthy repercussion for that action?
Sopoaga: Yeah. Mr. Mayor, Councilman Cavener, I'm actually going to refer that
question to the lieutenant, because I have -- I want to make sure we are clear on this.
Cavener: Okay.
Clyde: Good evening. How are you all doing?
Cavener: Well. Thanks.
Clyde: So, looking at the laws with those particular ones, there is going to be
infractions, misdemeanors and felonies that are all going to apply based on those. So,
obviously, your felony is going to be generally leaning towards an arrest or a filing within
the juvenile system. Same with misdemeanor portion of it. The infraction it kind of
depends on what it is, but it will generally be through the -- the juvenile prosecutor's
office that will look at that. I would have to look at kind of seeing what some of the, you
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know, repercussions are and how they are going to affect the driving side of that and
that's something that we definitely can get back to you on as well.
Cavener: Okay. Mr. Mayor, if I may just a couple more.
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: What has been the -- has there been any collaboration with any of our state
lawmakers? Again, we are not the only jurisdiction that's, you know, trying to figure out
the most appropriate way to solve this challenge. But as we often see is if a -- if a local
jurisdiction passes some law and the state is looking at this, they, then, will pass their
own law and I think to Council Member Strader's point the last thing I want to do is
create more confusion and my hope would be is that if -- if we are aware that there are
state lawmakers that are pursuing some action come January, that we are working in
collaboration with them, so that we are kind of hitting the nail on the head for what the
state would want to do, as opposed to us pass an ordinance that changes dramatically
a year from now. Can you give me any flavor for that?
Clyde: I'm going to defer this one again -- or defer it to -- to the chief. He would
probably be the best one to answer that.
Basterrechea: Mayor and Councilman Cavener, a couple things. On your -- your first
question also on those misdemeanors and those infractions for the juveniles. So,
number one if you see -- if they are not a repeat offender they are going to get a
warning and the parents will get a written warning as well on behalf of the Meridian
Police Department. Also if they do get a citation they have the opportunity to work with
the prosecutor to attend Alive at 25, so that that citation goes away. So, they have
opportunity so we are not hammering them right off the bat, so I just want to make sure
we got that clarified. And, secondly, these will be conversations that the Chiefs of Police
Association will be having with our state legislature coming up. I would say this. I
would caution this. We have all the tools right now to enforce what we need to enforce
and just putting an ordinance -- I'm not a fluff guy, I will just say it right up front, putting
an ordinance on the books just to put an ordinance on the books really doesn't serve
any purpose for us and our ability to enforce these laws.
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: I have a question on that.
Basterrechea: You bet.
Strader: Okay. So, let's say that we have a 14 year old and they are riding an e-
scooter and they are going let's say 25 miles an hour. Would that be legal or illegal right
now?
Basterrechea: On an e-scooter?
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Strader: Yeah.
Basterrechea: Legal. No different than if they are riding a ten speed at 20 miles per
hour.
Strader: Right. And I guess my question would be at what speed have we reached a
point that it's not comparable to a bicycle anymore? It's not comparable to -- yeah,
think a bicycle. Like that -- a non-motorized bicycle. I guess I would be curious how
does that stack up? Because what I'm trying to get at is like where is the real safety
threshold here around these -- regardless of whether you call it a scooter, a bicycle
whatever?
Basterrechea: I don't know that necessarily the real -- the threshold certainly comes to
speed at a point. I believe the bigger issue that we are dealing with is the behavior on
these bicycles, especially when you see four or five, ten of them taking up a roadway
and that's -- that's the issue. That's your safety issue. And we have the laws to enforce
that, whether they are going five miles an hour, whether they are going 28 miles per
hour.
Simison: From a legal perspective, chief, if they break the speed limit on a scooter on a
road that's the threshold?
Basterrechea: Yes.
Simison: Under age or any age that's -- that's the current threshold --
Basterrechea: Yes.
Simison: -- in these. But we don't have a speed on our pathways.
Basterrechea: Right.
Simison: Which is the -- which is where you could get into secondary, but, then,
enforcement and everything else that comes in line with that. How do you enforce a
speed on a place where you normally don't do enforcement to -- to prove. But right now
it's -- the posted speed limit is what they have to stay under --
Basterrechea: Yes. If they are on the roadway, yes.
Simison: If they are on a -- if they are on the pathway adjacent to the roadway does
that exclude it or --
Basterrechea: I would say this. And this is where I caution you. It is no different than
bicyclists that I have seen on the green belt literally going probably 20 miles per hour as
fast as they can. It's the same danger. It's the behavior that really becomes the issue
for us.
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Simison: And, again, I'm just trying to answer the question about the speed. If they are
on the detached ten foot pathway sidewalk next to a road is the speed limit enforceable
in any way, shape or form.
Basterrechea: No, it is not.
Simison: Just -- just so we are -- I just wanted to level set the understanding for people
on that context. Okay.
Whitlock: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Whitlock.
Whitlock: You mentioned one scenario where you would have probable cause or an
issue with e-bikes or e-motorcycles. Can you just give me a sense of other scenarios?
I mean I -- I will occasionally ride a bike and I'm just -- I want to avoid you pulling me
over, but I mean what -- what are you looking for in terms of -- of these juveniles? Is it
clumps of them together?
Basterrechea: It can be both; right? Do we have somebody who is riding a wheelie
down the middle of a street causing a traffic hazard? That would be a reason for our
officers to stop them on that e-bicycle. An e-motorcycle is easy. If it's got pegs on it and
it doesn't have the proper turn signals, the proper license on it, you are getting stopped
immediately, because that is a motor vehicle and it is -- has to be licensed on a -- on a
roadway. It has to be licensed, insured and driven by a licensed driver.
Simison: As well as illegal on our pathways.
Basterrechea: Yes. And they are illegal on our pathways.
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: For our parks director I -- we talk about pathways and in our parks. Are -- are
e-bikes or e-scooters allowed at our -- on our pump track and our terrain park? Are they
prohibited? Are they prohibited by park rules? Are they prohibited by law? Is it a gray
area?
Siddoway: E-bicycles are allowed on pathways. E-motorcycles are not. As far as the --
the bike park, the -- they are not allowed and it's signed already as not allowed and we
have -- we have placed signs earlier this year on -- in the major parks that motorized
vehicles are not allowed on the -- the -- outside of the parking areas of the -- of the -- of
the parks as well.
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
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Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: And in Idaho law there is no minimum age for any of these devices besides the
e-motorcycle; right? Because that's -- that's another thing I'm really struggling with. It's
like we might have an eight year old or a six year old that on their own they just can't go
that fast and now with this device they are in danger just speeding along and there is
nothing -- nothing in law that stops that, besides like, obviously, good parenting.
Basterrechea: And that's exactly where I was going to go with that. Unfortunately, what
we are dealing with here, more than anything else, this is a parenting issue and you
have talked about it, the -- the community sites and people complaining and all of those
things, I would hope that a responsible parent would go how fast does that go and when
you purchase something for your child -- I know that I would look and say how fast does
this device go before I put my child on it? Unfortunately, while there are some laws that
deal with bad parenting, not every law covers bad parenting. We can -- if it is a child
showing risky behavior on a e-motorcycle there is the opportunity to -- actually to charge
a parent under that -- under a code, so --
Strader: Wow. Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: I'm curious like in your conversations with parents how are those
conversations going, too, because is it -- are the parents not aware of how fast they can
go or are they not aware of the behavior? Like I -- and I know it's anecdotal, but I'm just
really curious like when you are having those conversations one on one with parents
what are you hearing the most?
Basterrechea: Some parents are not aware --
Strader: Okay.
Basterrechea: -- and they decide to do the right thing and not allow their children to ride
it. Other parents their response is leave my kids alone, go do real police work, quit
chasing kids around and quit being the no fun police. I mean we see it all over. We see
it on our Facebook. We see it everywhere. There is a whole group of parents who,
quite frankly, think freedom means you are free to do anything you want.
Strader: Yeah. Okay.
Simison: You know, maybe I'm going out on a limb here, but in a lot of ways that's the
Idaho that I grew up in, but it's until it becomes impacting others around you in a
negative way where -- you know, I have got no issue when I see kids riding their
unlicensed, no seat belt golf cart gently through the neighborhood, but when you see
four of them on there racing with another one in -- in behind, that -- you know, that's
where you understand there is a real safety issue.
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Basterrechea: Yes. Again it comes back to the behaviors are really the issue that we
are dealing with and -- and we have people that they want us to chase these kids to the
end of the earth until we chase a kid and they run into -- into traffic or into a car and get
seriously injured and, then, the finger is pointed at us, quite frankly, not the parents.
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: You hit the nail on the head, which is I don't want us to over legislate on
something to be really cracked down on the .001 percent of bad offenders where for
many kids these devices allow them to get to and from safely with relative ease and
improves the quality of life. So, I just -- I recognize there is always going to be a
balance and I know that your job is hard, because you hear one parent say leave my
kids alone, you have another parent saying why aren't you going after them and both of
them think that you are not doing your job. That's a hard place for you to be and I don't
envy that position. I just -- I think from a -- my -- at least my perspective is I wouldn't
want us to pursue things that would overly penalize those that are the -- the good
actors.
Taylor: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Taylor.
Taylor: As someone who almost hit one of these kids on -- in my neighborhood about
three weeks ago, it came out on a -- on a motor -- one of the electric motorcycles and
they clearly didn't know the -- the rules of driving on a road, because they were not of
age. It scared me to death, because we were probably half the distance between you
and I and he came flying out probably 25, 30 miles an hour and also as a parent who
has had two sons try to shake me down to buy them one and -- and I actually did look
into it and, then, I was -- I learned for myself how fast they are. I think parents just don't
know yet. It's such a new thing. I think the education campaign will be very helpful,
because a lot of parents just don't know. But once -- I mean this is coming to a head in
a lot of communities -- a lot of my colleagues and neighbors and friends are starting to
talk about it and ask questions and you see them around a lot more and I -- I do think
that's helpful and I can't help but think of what my grandpa used to always say you can't
fix stupid and there is a lot of parents who might make some really poor choices and,
you know, unfortunately, we can't legislate their good behavior as much as we can try to
educate them on the dangers of that. So, appreciate it and would hope that as you are
going down this road if there is things that you identify that the Council can do to
support sort of a broader public message of education and things that we can do, I think
we would all be very supportive of trying to -- to do that, because it is a -- it's a -- it's a
safety thing.
Basterrechea: Absolutely. And the mayor actually brought a great point to us when we
initially provided him with our initial draft of this is -- is making sure we are able to
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bifurcate the difference between the e-motors and the e-bikes and -- and what those
differences are for people, so -- because they tend to get mushed together.
Whitlock: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Whitlock.
Whitlock: Chief, captain, lieutenant, thank you for the presentation and information. It's
been very helpful and, chief, kudos to you as part of the promotion process to reach into
the -- the experience of -- of your department and gain from them some insight into how
to develop this education and enforcement program. So, thanks for doing that and
putting your trust in the folks that are out there and understand this problem better than
any of us do.
Basterrechea: They did an amazing job and I think by the end of it the board that was
watching the e-bicycle presentations were tired of e-bicycles by the end of that day.
Simison: Council, any other questions at this time? All right. Well, we look forward to
many more community conversations and interactions and appreciate you all out there
trying to help address this issue as best we can. Thank you.
EXECUTIVE SESSION [Action Item]
26. Per Idaho Code 74-206(1)(c): To acquire an interest in real property
not owned by a public agency.
Simison: Okay. Next item is Item 26, which is Executive Session.
Little Roberts: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Little Roberts.
Little Roberts: Per Idaho Code 74-206(1)(c) I move we go into Executive Session.
Whitlock: Second.
Simison: Have a motion and a second to go into Executive Session. Is there any
discussion? If not, clerk call the roll.
Roll Call: Cavener, yea; Strader, yea; Overton, absent; Little Roberts, yea; Taylor, yea;
Whitlock, yea.
Simison: All ayes. Motion carries and the item is agreed to.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
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Simison: We will move into Executive Session.
EXECUTIVE SESSION (5:22 p.m. to 5:58 p.m.)
Simison: Do I have a motion to come out of Executive Session?
Little Roberts: Mr. Mayor, I move we come out of Executive Session.
Whitlock: Second.
Simison: Have a motion and a second to come out of Executive Session. All in favor
signify by saying aye. Opposed nay? The ayes have it. We are out of Executive
Session.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Simison: Do I have another motion?
Little Roberts: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Little Roberts.
Little Roberts: I move we adjourn.
Whitlock: Second.
Simison: Motion and second to adjourn. All in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed
nay? The ayes have it. We are adjourned.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 5:58 P.M.
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MAYOR ROBERT SIMISON DATE APPROVED
ATTEST:
CHRIS JOHNSON - CITY CLERK