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MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
AGENDA
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 19,1999 -7:30 PM
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
ROLL CALL: X RON ANDERSON X CHARLIE ROUNTREE
X GLENN BENTLEY X KEITH BIRD
X MAYOR ROBERT CORRIE
CONSENT AGENDA
A. MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING HELD OCTOBER 5, 1999 APPROVE
B. MINUTES OF MEETING HELD OCTOBER 5, 1999 APPROVE
C. VACATION AND SICK LEAVE POLICY RESOLUTION #258 APPROVE
REGULAR AGENDA
ORDINANCE # 847 - OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER - THE IDAHO STATESMAN
DISCUSSION OF IDAHO INDEPENDENT BANK'S REQUEST TO MAKE
ADDITIONAL REQUEST OF COUNCIL BY CHERRY LANE GOLF COURSE
LETTER OF CREDIT. SPECIAL MEETING OCTOBER 28,1999 6:30 PM
1. TABLED 10/5/99: FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW:
REQUEST FOR REZONE OF 7.265 ACRES FOR CREEKSIDE ARBOUR
PHASE II FROM R-8 TO R-15 BY WilliAM & LUCILE LEAVELL-END OF
5TH, NORTH OF CREEKSIDE ARBOUR PHASE AND SOUTH OF FAIRVIEW:
TABLED UNTIL NOVEMBER 3, 1999 MEETING
2. TABLED 10/5/99: FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW:
REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO CONSTRUCT 16 FOUR
PLEXES WITH POOL AND CLUBHOUSE FOR USE BY PHASE I & II
(PROPOSED CREEKSIDE ARBOUR PHASE II) BY WilliAM & LUCILE
LEAVELL: TABLED UNTIL NOVEMBER 3,1999 MEETING
3. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW: REQUEST FOR
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR IN HOME DAYCARE BY KATHY
PURCEll-LOCATED AT 2241 E. CLARENE STREET: APPROVED
4. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW: REQUEST FOR
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR EXPANSION OF FACILITY TO
ACCOMMODATE EXISTING CHILDREN BY RAY CHASE/REGENT
BUSINES5-1302 E. FIRST STREET; APPROVED
5. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW: REQUEST FOR
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO CONSTRUCT STORAGE UNITS ON
UNUSED PORTION OF COMMERCIAL LOT BY SERTA WAGNER-
NORTHWEST CORNER OF MERIDIAN ROAD AND TAYLOR AVENUE:
APPROVED
6. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW: REQUEST FOR
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ADD ON AN ATTACHED 2 CAR GARAGE
AND 1 BAY CARPORT (BOAT STORAGE) AND REMOVE OR RELOCATE:
EXISTING SMALL DETACHED GARAGE BY MEL AND DEBI LACY - 1414 N.
MERIDIAN ROAD: APPROVED
7. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW: REQUEST FOR
REZONE OF .6 ACRE FROM R-8 TO L-Q BY MIKE GAMBLIN-LOCATED AT
CHERRY LANE AND LEISURE LANE: CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT-TABLED FF&Cl UNTIL NOVEMBER 3, 1999
MEETING
8. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW: REQUEST FOR
ANNEXATION AND ZONING OF 12.801 ACRES FOR TARAWOOD
SUBDIVISION BY MICHELANGELO INVESTMENTS, LLC-SOUTH OF LOS
ALAMITOS PARK & NORTH OF SHERBROOKE HOLLOWS: CITY ATTORNEY
TO PREPARE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT - TABLED FF&CL UNTIL
NOVEMBER 3, 1999 MEETING
9. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW: REQUEST FOR
ANNEXATION AND ZONING OF 4.34 ACRES (R-T TO C-G) BY SONNTAG
EYE ASSOCIATES OR ASSIGNS LOCATED AT LOT 15 OF MAGIC VIEW
SUBDIVISION: APPROVED
10. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR VARIANCE OF MAXIMUM BLOCK
LENGTH AND MAXIMUM CULDESAC LENGTH FOR THE LAKES AT CHERRY
LAKE #9 BY LOUIS J. STEINER (STEINER DEVELOPMENT)-EAST SIDE OF
ASHFORD GREENS AND WEST OF LAKE AT CHERRY LANE #4: CITY
ATTORNEY TO PREPARE FF&CL
11. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT OF PROPOSED
ENGLISH GARDENS SUBDIVISION BY PROJECTS WEST -SE CORNER OF
TEN MILE ROAD & CHERRY LANE: CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE FF&CL
12A. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR TRANSFER OF CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT FROM MIKE WETZEL TO KATHY ANDERSON FOR
DA YCARElPRESCHOOL: CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE ORDER
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128. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING TO R-15
AND L-O FOR VALERI HEIGHTS SUBDIVISION BY GOLD RIVER
COMPANIES, INC.-NE CORNER OF PINE STREET AND TEN MILE ROAD:
CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE FF&CL
13. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND REZONE FOR TEN
MILE MINI STORAGE BY ED SEWS-WEST OF TEN MILE AND NORTH OF
USTICK ROAD: CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE FF&CL
14. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR MINI
STORAGE FACILITY CONSISTING OF NINE BUILDINGS AND ONE SINGLE
FAMILY DWELLING/OFFICE BY ED SEWS --WEST OF TEN MILE AND
NORTH OF USTICK ROAD: CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE FF&CL
15. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A 96
UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX (PROPOSED COBBLESTONE VILLAGE) BY
S1 AMAS CORPORA TION/IONIC ENTERPRISE, INC.-SOUTHWEST
CORNER OF LOCUST GROVE & FRANKLIN: CONTINUE PUBLIC HEARING
TO NOVEMBER 3, 1999
16. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR
PHASE 3 OF ST. LUKE'S MERIDIAN MEDICAL CENTER -- BY ST. LUKE'S
REGIONAL MEDICAL CENTER AT 520 S. EAGLE ROAD: CITY ATTORNEY
TO PREPARE FF&CL
17. APPEAL APPLICATION: REQUEST FOR APPEAL DECISION OF ZONING
ADMINISTRATOR BY MIKE FORDN ANKE MACHINE SHOP: APPROVED
APPEAL
18. REQUEST FOR SPECIAL PERMIT FOR USE OF PYROTECHNICS OCTOBER
29TH AND 30TH BY BRUCE YOUNGER, MERIDIAN ASSEMBLY OF GOD AND
TEEN MANIA MINISTRIES: DISREGARD
19. APPROVAL OF CITY ELECTION JUDGES AND CLERKS - APPROVED
20. DEPARTMENT REPORTS:
A. JANICE SMITH
1. TREASURER'S REPORT
B. GARY SMITH:
1. HIRING OF CONSULTING ENGINEER-LATECOMER AGREEMENTS
APPROVED
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2. INTERSTATE 84 SEWER CROSSING (LATE COMER'S
AGREEMENT) APPROVED
3. CITY OF MERIDIAN WATERLINE PROJECT, PHASE II
APPROVED
C. JOHN T. SHAWCROFT
1. CONTRACT FOR THOMAS B. DOMINICK, ATTORNEY AT LAW FOR
PRE-TREATMENT PROGRAM - TABLED
2. CONTRACT FOR PATRICIA BROWN (ENVIRONMENTAL
CONSULTANTS) FOR QAQC PLAN - APPROVED
D. MAYOR CORRIE
1. PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION APPOINTMENT - CHRISTIE
SMAGULA
2. DISCUSSION ON HEALTH INSURANCE CARRIER FOR 2000
BROKER RESEARCHING
MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL MEETING
OCTOBER 19.1999
The regular meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 7:30 p.m.
on October 19, 1999 by Mayor Robert Corrie.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Bob Corrie, Charlie Rountree, Ron Anderson, Glenn
Bentley, Keith Bird.
OTHERS PRESENT: Shari Stiles, Gary Smith, Chief Gordon, Gill Gigray, Ken
Bowers, Pauline Skeggs, Will Berg.
Corrie: Okay. We'll open the City Council meeting for Tuesday, October 19,
1999 at 7:30 p.m. Mr. Clerk, would you have roll-call, please.
Corrie: Thank you, Mr. Berg. I want to welcome all of you here this evening.
like seeing a full house every meeting. We'll see where we go from here. I
would like to have the Chief come up here, please for introduction.
Gordon: Mr. Mayor and Council, the WRICOPS Assessment Team arrived in
Meridian yesterday to assess our police department. I'd like to have John
Walters come up who is in charge of the assessment team and introduce the
crew and maybe give you a brief overview of what we can expect this week.
Walters: Thanks. Mr. Mayor, members of the City Council. My name is John
Walters. I am the director of WRICOPS, the Western Regional Institute for
Community Oriented Public Safety. We serve a five-state region of Washington,
Idaho, Montana, South Dakota and Wyoming. One of the services of the many
services that we offer is going into a community and bringing a team of folks in,
spending about a week in interviewing a lot of people on the streets, in their
homes, in their business and looking at things in the police department, internally
and externally, and making some recommendations in terms of all related
community policing. We have a great team for here for you this week. Some of
them are here tonight, and some are out working. I work them very late. John
Goldman in back, John is the former elected sheriff from Spokane County,
Washington. Donald Beardness (sic), Don is a judge, six-time elected judge from
Billings, Montana. Mike Erp, Mike is in the criminal justice program at
Washington State University, Spokane, a former police chief. We also have on-
site here Dave Cole. Dave's a captain for the Sioux Falls, South Dakota Police
Department. Rick Ball who is the police chief in Gillette, Wyoming; Mike Sines, a
captain from Pier, South Dakota; Chuck Crats who is the director of a county
youth services program in the state of Wyoming in Freemont County. Myself,
and we also have on-site, Andy Jockomazi who's a professor at Boise State
University who's assessing the assessors to evaluate our work. It's a very
interesting process. The hospitality's been incredible. The weather is beautiful,
and we work very long hours and very late hours, and we've probably talked to
some of the folks here already. If we haven't, I'm sure we will and meet many of
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you folks tomorrow afternoon, I believe. I don't know if you have any questions
or not, but we will be here all week then we'll head out of town on Friday. It'll
probably be a few - eight weeks before we issue a draft report and then a final
report about a month or so after that. We're excited to be here and appreciate
the hospitality very much.
Corrie: Thank you, John, and thank you for the assessment team. Good to see
you again, Mike. Any questions from the Council?
Bird: I have none.
Walters: Thank you~
CONSENT AGENDA
A. MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING HELD OCTOBER 5, 1999
B. MINUTES OF MEETING HELD OCTOBER 5, 1999
C. VACATION AND SICK LEAVE POLICY RESOLUTION #258
Corrie: Council, we have the Consent Agenda A, Band C for the minutes and a
vacation and sick leave policy resolution.
Anderson: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Anderson.
Anderson: I would make a motion that we approve the Consent Agenda, Items
A, Band C.
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Motion's been made by Mr. Anderson, second by Mr. Bird to approve the
Consent Agenda A, Band C. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in
favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
ORDINANCE # 847 - OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER - THE IDAHO STATESMAN
Corrie: Before we get to the regular agenda with the smiley face here, we do
have an ordinance for the amending Section 1 of Chapter 12 for the Ordinance
providing for designated Idaho Statesman as the official newspaper the local
paper has gone out of circulation for the present time. Mr. Clerk, what number
would that Ordinance be?
Berg: 847.
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Corrie: 847. Okay. Mr. Berg, would you read the Ordinance No. 847 by title
only at this point.
Berg: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Ordinance No. 847: An ordinance of the City of
Meridian, Idaho amending Section 10f Chapter 12 of Title 1 of the revised and
compiled ordinances of the Cit,Y of Meridian providing for the designation of the
Idaho Statesman as the official newspaper of the City of Meridian and providing
an effective date.
Corrie: Okay. Is there anyone from the audience that would like to have
Ordinance No. 847 read in its entirety? What this is, it makes the Statesman at
the present time will be our official newspaper for all the announcements of the
City Council and ordinances and that type of thing at the present time. Council,
what is your pleasure on Ordinance No. 847?
Bird: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move that we approve Ordinance 847 making the Idaho Statesman official
printed paper for the City of Meridian with the suspension of rules.
Anderson: Second.
Corrie: Motion was made and seconded to approve Ordinance No. 847 with a
suspension of rules. Any further discussion? Hearing none, roll-call vote; Mr.
Anderson.
Anderson: Aye.
Corrie: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Aye.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Aye.
Corrie: Mr. Bentley.
Bentley: Aye.
Corrie: All ayes, motion carried. Ordinance 847 is approved.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
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@ DISCUSSION OF IDAHO INDEPENDENT BANK'S REQUEST TO MAKE
ADDITIONAL REQUEST OF COUNCIL BY CHERRY lANE GOLF
COURSE LETTER OF CREDIT.
Corrie: Okay. On the regular agenda, first before No. 1 is the discussion of the
Idaho Independent Bank's request to make additional request of Council by
Cherry Lane Golf Course letter of credit. Before I start, I want to let the public
know that this is not a public hearing. There will be no public input in this. This is
a discussion between the City Council and what they have been requested by
the Independent Bank to do. I guess, what is the pleasure of the Council? Do
you want to have the attorney explain his letter to you?
Anderson: Yes, please.
Corrie: Mr. Gigray.
Bird: Do it in layman's terms, too.
Gigray: Mr. Mayor and members of the Council, as I understand the
consideration before you, it is the request by the bank that the City agree by a
separate agreement to provide the bank with notice on two occasions: one if
there's a default on the part of Cherry Lane Recreation, Inc., and number two,
there is a 60-day notice request in the event there would be modification of the
lease agreement. This would be done by a separate agreement between the
bank and the City. It's something for you; I think it's a matter of your discretion
as to whether or not you wish to do this. I believe that the City Council has taken
the action that is required under the terms of the lease agreement to perform, but
is a matter for your consideration. I have been asked to provide some
information to the Council by the Mayor to acquaint you with at least some of the
terms and conditions the lease-hold deed of trust in regards to its provisions so
that at least you have that information available to you. I believe you have the
lease-hold deed of trust in your packets, and it has a very small font which is
somewhat difficult to read. If you want me to go through this memo with you, I'd
be more than happy to do so. I defer at this point, Mr. Mayor, as to what you
want me to do.
Corrie: Okay, Council. Anybody want to go through it?
Bird: Short version.
Corrie: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Gigray.
Bird: Yeah. I do.
Corrie: Okay. Let him know that.
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Bird: Mr. Mayor, I want him to go through that.
Corrie: Okay. Mr. Bird would like to go through it, please.
Gigray: Sure. BasicallY1 the instrument proposes like a deed of trust on your
house to secure an obligation of a loan which I assume Cherry Lane Recreation,
Inc. would have received from the bank, and then as security for that loan, they
would have a lease-hold deed of trust. We don't - our statutes regarding deeds
of trust talk about providing a security interest in real property. I know the bank
says this is a somewhat unusual form in Idaho. Not often seen. It seems like
there's a plausible explanation under Idaho Law that you can in fact do this.
What happens is that there's a trustee appointed which would be Pioneer Title
Company. As long as payments are made timely and there's not default under
the original note or the deed of trust, nothing happens other than it's held by
Pioneer Title and then they'd have to reconvey the interest of the bank back to
Cherry Lane Recreation once the obligation is paid. If Cherry Lane for some
reason defaulted under the terms of the agreement, and I have in Point 5 kind of
a laundry-list of what that deed of - lease-hold deed of trust provides would be a
default, then the foreclosure procedures after notice, and if there was a failure to
cure the default, could be entering and taking possession of the property and
proceeding to sell the property as you would sell the property after 120-day
notice first for sale and then the purchaser, the highest bidder, would then get the
interest of Recreational Properties, Inc. There are some provisions here where
the bank, through the trustee1 could assume and take possession and manage
the property. They would have to perform the terms and conditions of the lease
agreement as the lease agreement has provided. They couldn't remain in default
because they wouldn't be in any higher position than Cherry Lane Recreation is.
That is basically how this is set up.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: This is also the letter of credit? This is more than just the letter of credit.
This is for the loan.
Gigray: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, I know that having and going
through these requests or condition, as I understand it, for the issuance of the
letter of credit. You may want to inquire of Cherry Lane Recreation as to whether
or not it involves more than that. Point 3, I noticed on the form that was provided,
provided for two separate loans, one in the amount of $400,000 and the other in
the amount of $500,000, and it is drafted so that if there were arrangements
subsequent to entering into the lease-hold deed of trust up to $1,800,000, it
would still cover that. It limits - that doesn't mean that the initial loan would be
that amount, but it would provide for that kind of negotiation in the future.
Corrie: Other questions from Council?
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Bird: I have none~
Corrie: Any discussion on their request?
Rountree: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Do we have any indication from the lender that this is the only avenue
that they can accept in order to make the loan, provide the money for the letter of
credit and apparently the money for financing the construction?
Corrie: Mr. Gigray.
Gigray: Mr. Mayor, Councilman Rountree, members of the Council, the
discussions that I have had relative to the request that you have before you are
with Mr. Edward Hansen who represents Idaho Independent Bank. He advised
me that the bank is somewhat uncomfortable with lease-hold deeds of trust. No
reflection upon Cherry Lane Recreation, Inc. It's just the form and that they
would be in a position, at least, this is my understanding of his representations to
me on the phone, that they would proceed to issue the letter of credit and
proceed with the loan arrangements, I assume, with Cherry Lane Recreation, Inc.
if the City would agree to the request that you have before you. There was
originally a discussion with Mr. Hansen, and he had indicated that they would like
to have a provision that the bank would be in a position to have to consent to any
change in the lease agreement. My discussions with him were that I thought that
this would be a very difficult issue for the Council to deal with, but certainly they
have any right to present whatever they want to. He felt that they could live with
notice and so you see the form of this request, and it's two-fold. One, if there's a
default, they have to receive notice of the default. The bank does in addition to
Cherry Lane Recreation, Inc., and number two, 60 days prior to the effective date
of any modification of the lease agreement, the bank is to be notified, and, of
course, as you look through the lease-hold deed of trust, if the bank didn't like .
some of the provisions of any amendments to the lease agreement, they would
have to take that up with Cherry Lane Recreation, Inc.
Bird: Ninety days.
Gigray: Ninety days. Excuse me. Ninety days notice. That's in my memo. I
misstated it. Thank you, Councilman Bird.
Rountree: We've been at this too many months now. Personally, I would like to
see it move forward, but I cannot accept the position the City would be put in this
particular proposal. I have no particular problem with the notice requirements,
but I do have some problems with the idea that the City would be taken out of
any position as it relates to the Golf Course in a default situation. I don't have a
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solution. I believe we were advised at the beginning that the solution was there,
but it apparently hasn't been found at this point.
Corrie: Any other discussion?
Rountree: Mr. Mayor, I guess the other comment I would make is it seems that
this negotiation process that apparently has been established is not acceptable
either. I think we need to just sit down and roll up our sleeves and find a solution.
If we continue to have letters bantered between our attorney and their attorney,
and then have to have it scheduled at a regularly scheduled Council meeting, the
soonest anything can be done has a two-week delay. We're not getting
anywhere. We've been two weeks here and three weeks there a month just
meeting our meeting schedule, and I don't know if a special meeting is in order to
deal with this specifically between our legal representation and us that we can
negotiate something that appears acceptable and then take action. Throw that
out for discussion.
Bird: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I agree with Councilman Rountree. I think it's went on long enough. I don't
know how we got it, but it's got to go forward. I have a real problem taking this
out of the first. If you read the Pioneer Title will be the trustee and they've got the
right to come in and sell the lease, whatever, which I don't like. If this is all
because of the letter of credit, then I for one would be for dropping the letter of
credit. It all falls back on us regardless one way or the other, so if this defaulted,
we're going to pick up the bill. I think it's went on long enough. Let's get the
thing solved and let Cherry Lane go on with their clubhouse and we get out there
and get us a good clubhouse and get the course going like it's supposed to be.
Anderson: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Anderson.
Anderson: I, too, have some real reservations about some of the items in the
lease-hold deed of trust, and I would concur with Councilman Rountree. I'm not
sure that this the right format to set down and discuss these. I think probably a
one-an-one meeting with the City Council and Cherry Lane, Inc. and their legal
representatives and ours and has out what some of our courses are, and let's get
that agreed to before we come back to a Council meeting because this has taken
forever in the current process and current format that we're doing it now.
Corrie: Mr. Bentley.
Bentley: Yes. I concur with what's been said tonight. I can't put the City or the
taxpayers' property up for a loan, but I think we do need to sit down with an open
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meeting with them and see if we can't come up with some form and means of
getting this project put together. Thank you.
Corrie: It seems to be the consensus that we need the Council, the two
attorneys and the Cherry Lane Rec to sit down with the Council.
Bird : Absolutely.
Anderson: And the bank.
Corrie: And the bank, yes. And the bank. Since they're involved here.
Rountree: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: If the bank's willing to accept the notice requirement again, I don't
have a problem with that, but if it's going to go beyond that, then I agree. We
need to sit down and hammer it out. If we can offer that back to them, and
they're willing to accept that along with the offer that if that's not acceptable, we'll
sit down. That gives them the option.
Corrie: Mr. Gigray.
Gigray: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, just to answer Councilman
Rountree's question, it is my understanding the bank would be prepared to go
ahead with the loan if the City honors their request that you have before you.
Rountree: The whole thing. Go ahead, Mr. Gigray.
Gigray: Right. And as I have discussed in my memos to the City Council, I
believe you've already done what you are legally obligated under the lease to do.
I think this goes beyond that, but I think it's a matter of your discretion whether or
not you want to do that. If you want to enter in negotiations with the bank and
with Cherry Lane Recreation, Inc. on if you are going to provide them with notice
and go this extra step that you need some consideration on the other side with
regards to potential modifications of the lease agreement or otherwise, then I
think it'd be a very good idea to sit down with the representatives of the bank and
Cherry Lane Recreation, Inc. to see if that couldn't be hammered out.
Bird: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Mr. Gigray, are you talking about the agreement of September 30th?
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Gigray: Yes. The one that's in the packet.
Bird: Okay.
Corrie: Any further discussion?
Bird: Yes.
Corrie: Wouldn't you like to make this into a motion that we do that, Mr.
Rountree, per your preference, or do you want to just -
Rountree: I didn't hear anybody object to that, oppose.
Corrie: I didn't either. If nobody objects to it, we don't have to have a -
Bird: Let's set a date.
Corrie: Okay.
Bird: The sooner the better.
Rountree: Do we want to discuss a potential date, Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Pardon?
Rountree: Discuss a potential date, Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Okay. What date would you like to - we've got 26th, there's a - we have
a set -
Rountree: We could have a special meeting on the 26th in conjunction with the
workshop.
Bird: Okay.
Corrie: Do you want to have that?
Bird: That's fine if that's agreeable with the other parties.
Corrie: This is not a public hearing, but is that all right with the bank? The 26th?
What time would you like to have it?
Bird: 6:30?
Corrie: 6:30?
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Bird: Is that okay with Cherry Lane?
Corrie: Cherry Lane, is that permissible to you? The 26th at 6:30?
: (inaudible) gone until the 28th (inaudible)
Corrie: He's gone until the 28th. I'm sorry. Okay. That's going to put us into -
we can have it before the meeting at 6:30 on the 3rd of November. He'll be back
by then, will he (inaudible)?
: (inaudible)
Corrie: Can you come up here while that - so we can get it on record? I couldn't
hear you.
Lovan: Mr. Mayor and the Councilmen, my name is Wally Loven. (inaudible) of
Cherry Lane Recreation. As I said, my attorney is gone until the 28th of this
month. I was considering having an attorney of his organization come in this
evening. He said it would take him quite awhile to go through and get everything
square in his mind so he represent me. Right now, I started last February in
getting this thing, trying to get it going, and here we are now in October. Now
we're going to November and we're looking at the first of the year. I don't know
the answer except that we're just not going anywhere. We're spinning our
wheels.
Corrie: That's why we want to get together.
Lovan: Yes. I know that, Bob. I guess it'll have to be that way.
Corrie: Yeah. Council, would you like -
Lovan: Then-
Corrie: Can everybody be here on the 28th?
Bird: Yeah. The 28th is fine with me.
Corrie: Charlie?
Rountree: I'll be here.
Corrie: Okay. (inaudible).
Bird: Is his attorney going to be here or does he just get in that day?
Lovan: He's supposed to get back on the 28th.
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Corrie: Will that give him enough time to have the meeting at 6:30 the 28th, then?
Lovan: That I can't answer.
Bird: We need to set a meeting and get it - Wally's right. We need to get this
thing ironed out and get it done and let's get going.
Lovan: If we go into November, then I wait a month and a half to finish the
clubhouse, and there's no way.
Rountree: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: I move that we schedule a special meeting October 28, 1999 to
negotiate the terms that may be necessary to reach agreement for the bank of
the leaseholder, Cherry Lane Recreation, Inc. to agree to lending the leaseholder
sufficient funds to cover letter of credit desired by the City, meeting to be held at
6:30, City Hall.
Corrie: Do I hear a second to the motion?
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Motion's been made by Mr. Rountree and seconded by Mr. Bird to hold a
special meeting October 28th at 6:30 p.m. to work with the Cherry Lane Ree, the
bank and the City to see if they can resolve the letter of credit at that point. Any
further discussion?
Anderson: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Anderson.
Anderson: I'm assuming that we would leave the caveat that if their attorney
does not have enough time on the 28th if he doesn't get in until late or something
that we could leave that up to you to reschedule a meeting or something.
Corrie: If that's desired - if that's okay with counsel.
Rountree: Mr. Mayor, that's within your power.
Corrie: Okay. All right. With that in mind, any other discussion? Okay. All
those in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
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Corrie: All ayes, motion's carried. 6:30 p.m. October the 28th here at the City
Hall we'll sit down and we'll see what we can do.
Bird: And get it done.
Corrie: Thank you.
ITEM 1.
TABLED 10/5/99: FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF
LAW: REQUEST FOR REZONE OF 7.265 ACRES FOR
CREEKSIDE ARBOUR PHASE II FROM R-8 TO R-15 BY
WilliAM & LUCILE LEAVELL-END OF 5TH, NORTH OF
CREEKSIDE ARBOUR PHASE AND SOUTH OF FAIRVIEW:
ITEM 2.
TABLED 10/5/99: FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF
LAW: REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO
CONSTRUCT 16 FOUR PLEXES WITH POOL AND CLUBHOUSE
FOR USE BY PHASE I & II (PROPOSED CREEKSIDE ARBOUR
PHASE II) BY WILLIAM & LUCILE LEAVELL:
Corrie: Item No.1. This is a tabled item of 10/5/99, Findings of Facts and
Conclusions of Law. All right. Item NO.1 is the Findings of Facts and
Conclusions of Law: Request for rezone of 7.265 acres for Creekside Arbour
Phase II from R-8 to R-15 by William and Lucile Leavell, end of 5th, north of
Creekside Arbour Phase and south of Fairview Avenue. Council, you have the
Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law in front of you. What is your pleasure.
Gigray: Point of information this item.
Corrie: Mr. Gigray.
Gigray: And Item No.2
Corrie: Okay.
Gigray: We still have not reached an agreement on the development agreement
by reason of the fact that the legal description that is required to be approved by
Public Works has still not been obtained. Once that has been obtained, this
should go through, and I think it'd be appropriate to move this to the next Council
meeting so that can get accomplisheda I've been in contact with Mr. Larry Knopp
who was their architect. Mr. Shoemaker who is an attorney representing them
and Bruce Freckleton is the point person in the Public Works on the legal
description.
Bentley: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bentley.
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Bentley: I move we table Items 1 and 2, the Findings of Facts and Conclusions
of Law for Creekside Arbour and the conditional use permit until November 3rd.
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Motion is made and seconded to table Items No. 1 and NO.2 until
November the 3rd for the development agreement. Any further discussion?
Hearing none, all those in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
ITEM 3.
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW: REQUEST
FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR IN HOME DA YCARE BY
KATHY PURCELL-LOCATED AT 2241 E. CLARENE STREET:\
Corrie: Item NO.3 is the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law: Request for
conditional use permit for in-home daycare by Kathy Purcell located at 2241 East
Clarene Street. Council, you have your Findings of Facts and Conclusions of
Law from the Planning and Zoning - I'm sorry. (inaudible) confusing. Any
discussion?
Bentley: I have none.
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion on the Item NO.3.
Rountree: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: I move that we approve the Findings and Facts and Decision of Order
on request for conditional use permit for home daycare, Item NO.3
Bentley: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded that we approve the Findings of Facts and
Conclusions of Law on Item NO.3. Roll-call vote; Mr~ Anderson.
Anderson: Aye.
Corrie: Mr. Bentley.
Bentley: Aye.
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Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Aye.
Corrie: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
ITEM 4.
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW: REQUEST
FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR EXPANSION OF
FACILITY TO ACCOMMODATE EXISTING CHILDREN BY RAY
CHASE/REGENT BUSINESS-1302 E. FIRST STREET:
Corrie: Item NO.4 is the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law: request for
conditional use permit for expansion of facility to accommodate existing children
by Ray Chase/Regent Business, 1302 E. First Street You have the Findings of
Facts in front of you. Any discussion?
Bird: None.
Corrie: Entertain a motion on the Findings of Facts.
Bird: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move that we approve the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law and
Decision of Order regarding the request for conditional use permit for expansion
of facility to accommodate existing children by Ray Chase/Regent Business,
1302 E. First Street
Rountree: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to accept the Findings of Facts and
Conclusions of Law as stated. Any further discussion? Roll-call vote; Mr.
Anderson.
Anderson: Aye.
Corrie: Mr. Bentley.
Bentley: Aye.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
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Bird: Aye.
Corrie: And Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
ITEM 5.
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW: REQUEST
FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO CONSTRUCT STORAGE
UNITS ON UNUSED PORTION OF COMMERCIAL LOT BY
BERTA WAGNER - NORTHWEST CORNER OF MERIDIAN
ROAD AND TAYLOR AVENUE:
Corrie: Item NO.5 is the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law: Request for
conditional use permit to construct storage units on the unused portion of
commercial lot by Berta Wagner, northwest corner of Meridian Road and Taylor
Avenue. Council, any discussion on that Item 5?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: I'll entertain a motion for Item NO.5.
Bentley: Mr. Mayor, I move we approve the Findings of Facts and Conclusions
of Law and Decision of Order granting a conditional use permit subject to
conditions for Berta Wagner,. construction of storage units and expansion of
existing child care facility.
Bird: Child care?
Corrie: Do I hear a second?
Anderson: Second.
Corrie: Motion is made and seconded to approve the Findings of Facts and
Conclusions of Law on Item NO.5. Any further discussion? Hearing none, roll-
call vote; Mr. Anderson.
Anderson: Aye.
Corrie: Mr. Bentley.
Bentley: Aye.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
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Bird: Aye.
Corrie: And Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
ITEM 6.
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW: REQUEST
FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ADD ON AN ATTACHED 2
CAR GARAGE AND 1 BAY CARPORT (BOAT STORAGE) AND
REMOVE OR RELOCATE EXISTING SMALL DETACHED
GARAGE BY MEL AND DEBI LACY - 1414 N. MERIDIAN ROAD:
Corrie: Item NO.6 is Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law: Request for
conditional use permit to add an attached two-car garage and one bay carport
(boat storage) and remove or relocate existing small detached garage by Mel
and Debi Lacy, 1414 North Meridian Road. Any discussion on Item 6 and the
Findings of Facts?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion on Item NO.6.
Anderson: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Anderson.
Anderson: I'd make a motion we approve the Findings of Facts and Conclusions
of Law, a request for conditional use permit to add on an attached two-car
garage and a one-bay carport and remove or relocate an existing detached
garage for Mel and Oebi Lacy.
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Motion has been made and seconded to approve the Findings of Facts
and Conclusions of Law on Item NO.7 - 6. Excuse me. Further discussion?
Roll-call vote; Mr. Anderson.
Anderson: Aye.
Corrie: Mr. Bentley.
Bentley: Aye.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
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Bird: Aye.
Corrie: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
ITEM 7.
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW: REQUEST
FOR REZONE OF &6 ACRE FROM R-8 TO L-O BY MIKE
GAMBLIN-LOCATED AT CHERRY LANE AND LEISURE LANE:
Corrie: Item No.7; Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law: Request for
rezone of .6 acre portion of R-8 to L-Q by Mike Gamblin located at Cherry Lane
and Leisure Lane. Shari.
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, I have missed one item on this. Under the
Findings of Facts and Conclusions at Law on Page 24, Item 2.20; it says
applicant shall dedicate right-at-way for Leisure Lane and improve to ACHD
standards. We discussed that last time, and said that the applicant would build
curb, gutter and sidewalk on his property and match existing pavement.
Bird: That's right, Shari. So we need to strike that one?
Corrie: 2.20?
Bird: Uh-huh.
Corrie: Okay.
Gigray: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Gigray.
Gigray: Point at information. Mayor and Council, I also see that there are a
number of conditions upon the rezoning designation, and so I would recommend
to the Council that in their Findings and Decision of Order and we will prepare the
appropriate substituted pages if you should follow this recommendation that it
direct the city attorney to prepare a development agreement because you cannot
condition a zoning ordinance on conditions, and that's why we have development
agreements that would include those conditions which are set forth in Section 2
of the Order.
Corrie: Okay. Any further discussion?
Rountree: Mr. Mayor.
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Corrie: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: I need a bit of interpretation to what I just heard.
Bird: I do too.
Corrie: Mr. Gigray, would you take another step back?
Gigray: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, I apologize. I'll try to make this
clearer. As I read the Decision of Order, this is a change of zone, and there are
a number of conditions placed in this order for granting the change of zone. In
order to do that, we have to have a development agreement as a condition of
rezoning in order to effect those as conditions of the rezone. We can't pass an
ordinance saying that they're zoned L-O and in that ordinance say there are all
these conditions on their rezone because we have an ordinance that defines
what uses can be done within an L-O. The state law says that we - our authority
to put conditions on rezone is in the development agreements, and that's why we
do them on zoning or rezoning designations.
Rountree: So we would need the development agreement (inaudible) -
Gigray: If you want conditions on the rezone. If you don't want conditions on the
rezone, then you can effect it through your own ordinances and you don't need
the development agreement. This order should just show that it's going to be
rezoned L-O and that's all we need to do.
Rountree: Okay.
Anderson: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Anderson.
Anderson: In light of that information) I would make a motion that we instruct
legal staff to draw up a development agreement on this request for rezone and
included in that motion I would request that we table the Findings of Facts and
Conclusions of Law until November 3rd.
Rountree: Second.
Corrie: Motion is made and seconded to table the Findings of Facts and
Conclusions of Law and to have the attorney draw up the DA here until the
meeting on the 3rd of November. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all
those in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
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: (inaudible)
Corrie: It all depends on if we get to it (inaudible).
ITEM 8.
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW: REQUEST
FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING OF 12.801 ACRES FOR
TARAWOOD SUBDIVISION BY MICHELANGELO
INVESTMENTS, LLC-SOUTH OF LOS ALAMITOS PARK &
NORTH OF SHERBROOKE HOLLOWS:
Corrie: Okay. Item No.8, Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law: Request
for annexation and zoning of 12.801 acres by Tarawood Subdivision by
Michelangelo Investments, LLC, south of Los Alamitos Park and north of
Sherbrooke Hollows. Council, do you have any discussion on Item 8 or staff
comments?
Stiles: Mr. Mayor, Council, I think some of our comments were taken out of the
Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law. There appear to be only two items,
and I think we discussed this at the last meeting. This would also require a
development agreement. I would just ask that our comment be incorporated in
that development agreement, if that's possible, such as the fencing and things
that aren't in our ordinance.
Corrie: Any discussion?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: I'll entertain a motion to table this one for the development agreement.
believe this is appropriate for this one because we don't have a development
agreement either.
Bentley: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bentley.
Bentley: I move we instruct the city attorney to draw up a development
agreement for the Michelangelo Investments rezone of 12.801 acres and
incorporate staff comments and that we table this Findings of Facts and
Conclusions of Law until November 3rd.
Corrie: There's been a motion to the floor. Do I hear a second?
Anderson: I'll second it.
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Corrie: Motion made and seconded to have the attorney draw up the
development agreement and to table the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of
Law until the November 3rd meeting. Any further discussion?
Gigray: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Gigray.
Gigray: members of the Council, I would just note that a development agreement
has been prepared and routed, and I guess the issue is whether or not it contains
the necessary conditions. The one that I have, at least in my file, along with the
draft of the ordinance provides for some conditions of the development having to
do with the existing irrigation and drainage ditch requirement and any existing
domestic wells and/or septic tank systems within the project should be removed
from their domestic service. This may not be complete enough, and that may be
what the problem is here, and what we will do on this table is I'll go back and
review the minutes of the City Council to assure what that action was and submit
it back for your consideration.
Corrie: Thank you, Mr. Gigray.
Bird: Has that been signed?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Has that been signed? Because he's got a copy - we don't know where
the original is.
(inaudible discussion between Council members)
Corrie: Have you seen it, Shari?
Stiles: No.
Corrie: Any further discussion?
Gigray: I just explained, Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, the reason we don't
circulate Findings to staff is because you have a record that's produced, and that
record has - the action has to be based on the record l so we submit it to you first
for your consideration because of the issue, it's a quasi-judicial matter, and we
can't have a record of proceedings outside of the proceedings. So we try to keep
that as clean as possible as we process these matters, but it certainly has been
brought to your attention that maybe there's some conditions that were included
in your actions. We'll double check those minutes to assure that that's done, and
then we'll resubmit it for your consideration at the next Council meeting.
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Corrie: Any further discussion? Motion is on the floor. All those in favor of the
motion say aye. Motion is carried, table the Findings and the development
agreement would be checked and reviewed by the attorney.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
ITEM 9.
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW: REQUEST
FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING OF 4.34 ACRES (R-T TO C-G)
BY SONNTAG EYE ASSOCIATES OR ASSIGNS LOCATED AT
LOT 15 OF MAGIC VIEW SUBDIVISION:
Corrie: Item No.9, this is Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law: Request
for annexation and zoning of 4.34 acres, R-T to C-G by Sonntag Eye Associates
or assigns located at Lot 15 of Magic View Subdivision. Council, you have the
Findings of Facts there. Any questions? Staff, comments?
Anderson: I have none.
Bird: I have none, Mayor.
Corrie: Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion on Item NO.9.
Rountree: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: I move that we approve the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law
and Decision of Order for the annexation and zoning of 4.3 acres from R-T to C-
G.
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to approve the Findings of Facts and
Conclusions of Law. Any further discussion? Roll-call vote; Mr. Anderson
Anderson: Aye.
Corrie: Mr. Bentley.
Bentley: Aye.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Aye.
Corrie: Mr. Rountree.
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Rountree: Aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
ITEM 10.
PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR VARIANCE OF MAXIMUM
BLOCK LENGTH AND MAXIMUM CULDESAC LENGTH FOR THE
LAKES AT CHERRY LAKE #9 BY LOUIS J. STEINER (STEINER
DEVELOPMENT)-EAST SIDE OF ASHFORD GREENS AND
WEST OF LAKE AT CHERRY LANE #4:
Corrie: Okay. We're getting into the public hearing part of the City Council
meeting. I think we can probably get through it unless we have heavy debating
going on a couple of them. So we'll watch the time. We want to try to close it up
here by at least 10:30 (inaudible) run too late. I'll open the public hearing on Item
NO.10 which is a request for variance of maximum block length and maximum
cul-de-sac length for the Lakes at Cherry Lane NO.9 by Louis J. Steiner of
Steiner Development, east side of Ashford Greens and west of Lake at Cherry
Lane No.4.
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-- first.
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, this is for a property that you previously reviewed
for a plat. It's located on the golf course. It's in between Ashford Greens and
other phases of the Lakes at Cherry Lane. With the design that they have, this
would be where a proposed Wilkins Ranch Subdivision once came before you
that was denied. They have this block length that exceeds our 1 ,ODD-foot block
length. They do have a proposed stub street that would come in this area and
also the cul-de-sac length, I believe, exceeds our maximum. They are
requesting a variance for the cul-de-sac and block length requirements. This is
also the Eight Mile Lateral running along here. If they did stub into this property,
they would need to build a bridge, and that's all the information I have.
Corrie: Okay. I'll entertain the developer to testify first, and if we have any
questions as referenced to the Findings of the Planning and Zoning director.
Becky.
Bowcutt: Becky Bowcutt, Briggs Engineering, 180D West Overland, Boise. You
saw this as a preliminary plat, the Lakes at Cherry Lane NO.9. As you well
know, this property is isolated by the golf course and the Eight Mile Lateral. This
cul-de-sac exceeds the 450 by approximately 70 feet, so it's 520 feet and then
we've got this continuation of a block here 'and the block here that exceeds the
1 ,ODD-foot maximum block length. This particular variance application does meet
the requirements for a variance. You can make the findings that there's site-
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specific restraints that hinders compliance with those subdivision standards.
That's all. Do you have any questions?
Anderson: I have none.
Bird: I have none, Mayor.
Corrie: Questions from Council? Thank you, Becky. Anyone else in the public
like to issue testimony in this public hearing on Item No. 10, request for a
variance? Okay. Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion to Council to close the
public hearing on Item No.1 o.
Bentley: So moved.
Rountree: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to close the public hearing on Item No. 10
for the variance request. All those in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Corrie: Council, discussion on the request
Bentley: I have none.
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Okay. I'll entertain a motion then for the variance request.
Bentley: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bentley.
Bentley: I move we instruct the city attorney to prepare Findings of Facts and
Conclusions of Law with a favorable recommendation for the variance of the
maximum block length and maximum cul-de-sac length for the Lakes at Cherry
Lane No.9
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Motion is made and seconded that we instruct the attorney to draw up
the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law in the affirmative for the request for
variance. Any further discussion? Roll-call vote; Mr. Bird.
Bird: Aye.
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Corrie: Mr. Bentley.
Bentley: Aye.
Corrie: Mr. Anderson.
Anderson: Aye.
Corrie: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
ITEM 11.
PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT OF
PROPOSED ENGLISH GARDENS SUBDIVISION BY PROJECTS
WEST -SE CORNER OF TEN MILE ROAD & CHERRY LANE:
Corrie: Item No. 11 is a public hearing: Request for preliminary plat of proposed
English Gardens Subdivision by Projects West, southeast corner of Ten Mile
Road and Cherry Lane. At this time, I'll open the public hearing and have the
staff comments first.
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, this is for approximately 40-acre parcel at the
southeast corner of Black Cat and Cherry Lane. It's bisected by the Ten Mile
drain. They're proposing this to be a common area here. I don't have the latest
version of the plat. Hopefully you have that in your packets. I didn't have a
reduced version of that to present tonight. Ada County Highway District
requested them to cul-de-sac this area here and to bring this road through. They
do currently show that this is a storage lot, and we've discussed with them that
storage is not a permitted use in the R-4 zone and they would have to make that
into building lots. This would be a drainage lot here, and they also have a large
lot here that would be for single-family residential only unless they submitted
some kind of a rezone application for that. They have made some modifications
to the roadway system based on Ada County Highway District's request. This
road would go straight through, and then they have brought this through with a
knuckle that would come on down here. They also proposed a pathway system.
It is shown on their plat for a greenbelt along the Ten Mile. They also have on
their notes that would need to be revised that they are showing access from this
storage - proposed storage lot and the drainage lot directly to Black Cat and no
access would be approved except for the public road systems that are approved
by Ada County Highway District. Gary has worked with them on some sewering
of the property, and he may want to address those items.
Corrie: Mr. Smith.
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Smith: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Council. The southerly portion of this project will
need to be seaward via a lift station, and we will consent to approve that
installation. The lift station is to serve only this property. This property is also
subjected to Black Cat trunkline sewer fees. Once those fees are finalized, and
that's shown as Item 1.32, and that should read "fees" instead of "feed." The
reason for this restriction is that the lift station, the Ashford Greens lift station
does not include capacity for property beyond this project. Thank you.
Corrie: Mr. Bentley.
Bentley: Shari, what's the latest dated version on the plat map?
Stiles: I have a revised plan; however, it does not show a revision date. It's the
same date as the original submittal.
Corrie: Okay. Public hearing, I'd invite the applicant to come forward.
Unger: Mr. Mayor and Council members, my name is Bob Unger. I'm with
Pinnacle Engineers. Our address is 870 North Linder Road, Suite B, Meridian,
Idaho 83642 Idaho, and we represent Projects West on this development. As
Shari as reviewed with you, we have made revisions that were required by the
Highway District and also changes that the staff had recommended and
requested of us, and I have these before us for your review this evening. I do
apologize that we didn't have a revised date on the one that you got there.
Bird: What is the revised date, Mr. Unger? What is the revised date? When
were these drawn? We've got to have that for the record.
Unger: Actually, I don't have the date on this, the date that we revised these.
These were - I believe we actually revised these prior - just prior to the Planning
and Zoning Commission hearing. As you can see, we've eliminated this
entrance here, moved it down to here as required by the Highway District. They
did not want this entrance that we originally had, so we've shifted over here,
continued to have this entrance and we have a stub to the east. We will have to
cross over the - this is the Ten Mile Creek here. We are showing a pathway
along here and down which would tie in to the park that's over in this area. We're
providing landscaping all the way along down through here. We will provide the
improvements along Black Cat Road as suggested by staff. We no longer are
showing any kind of a storage lot, although, this was some reason it was still
labeled as storage. It is not a storage lot. This would be a building lot. This
being a drainage lot down here. The total number of lots that we are looking at
are at 101 single-family lots. We have seven open spaces, two drainage lots and
irrigation lot. Our density in the project is 3.47 dwelling units to the acre which is
compatible with the existing zoning of R-4. It's also compatible with the policies
and goals of the City Comprehensive Plan. As reviewed by Gary Smith, we have
worked out the sewer issues on the project, and we believe that we have made
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all the appropriate revisions as requested by staff, and we have reviewed all the
conditions of approval and the recommendations from the Planning and Zoning
Commission. We have no problems with those at all, so we ask for your
approval this evening, and I'll stand for any questions that you might have.
Bird: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: This new revised addresses all the recommendations within our paper
here?
Unger: Yes, it does.
Bird: Okay.
Corrie: Any other questions? Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Block 1, Lot 5, what's the - it's probably on here somewhere, but I
haven't found a note that tells me what that's all about.
Unger: That is considered as one of the lots. The developer is not sure what he
wants to do with that lot eventually. He may just go ahead and develop it as a
residential lot, he may sit on it in the event that some day if the Comprehensive
Plan were to change and allows some sort of a commercial or something on the
corner, they might come back in and ask for some sort of change on the use on
that lot itself. Currently, it is reflected as a residential lot. The Comp Plan
doesn't call for anything, any kind of commercial use in that area at this time.
He's just trying to look to the future.
Corrie: Mr. Anderson.
Anderson: Along that pathway there, you show some shrubs and some trees
and that kind of stuff. How much landscaping is there going to be along that?
Unger: We actually anticipate probably not a lot of trees. Probably mostly
smaller shrubs, trees to the north primarily because this is within the easement
and right-of-way for the Ten Mile Creek. We will be doing some lawn and some
ground cover type shrubbery. More so than anything else.
Anderson: Thank you.
Rountree: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Rountree.
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Rountree: Did I hear you say that per staff comments that the improvements
along Black Cat, I guess in front of, for the lack of a better word, that area will be
included in those improvements are curb, gutter and sidewalk?
Unger: Yes. We have to get the permission of the current land owners to do
those, and he has indicated to us that he would support us on that and allow us
to give up the right-of-way to do that.
Rountree: So that's a little different than what you just told us before?
Unger: I'm sorry?
Rountree: You said you would do it, now you're saying you would do it
conditioned on the property owner.
Unger: Well, the property owner has told us that he will grant the right-af-way for
us to make those improvements. We don't have anything signed or any kind of
contract with him at this point, but they originally owned all this property, so they
support the project, and they're willing to work with us to get that taken care of.
We don't have a problem with that being a condition of the approval.
Corrie: Any other questions?
Bird: I have none.
Bentley: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bentley.
Bentley: It's not a question, but I'd like you to place that board up beside the
others so the audience can see the changes made, please.
Unger: Sure. I'd be glad to.
Rountree: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: How are you going to make the connection from your parcel to the
western Ada parcel?
Unger: I'm sorry. Our parcel to the western?
Rountree: Along Ten Mile. Are you going to make (inaudible) Western Ada
Recreation is the owner.
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Unger: Right here? We can only go down to this corner. That's as far as we're
going to be able to go, but that abuts the park property right there.
Rountree: So there is a connection. Your property goes all the way to theirs?
Unger: The corner of our property goes down to the same corner of the park
area, Fuller Park it used to be. In fact, there's a little sliver that runs along like
this and then as the Ten Mile Creek goes along here, then it starts to get wider
as you go further east. In fact, it's right in through here. So that connection can
be made right there.
Rountree: Do you know if that particular easement along Ten Mile is - is it
easement owned by an underlying property owner or is it, in fact, owned by
Nampa Meridian?
Unger: It is actually right-of-way, and we have to - we've discussed it with Water
Resources and - it's not Bureau of Land, it's -
Rountree: Bureau of Reclamation?
Unger: Yeah. Bureau of Rec. They said that they would work with us and allow
us to put that path down through there and grant an easement for that use.
Rountree: Thank you.
Corrie: Thank you.
Unger: Thank you.
Corrie: Anyone else from the public like to issue testimony in this request for
preliminary plat? Okay. Hearing none, Council, I'll entertain a motion to close
the public hearing on Item No. 11.
Stiles: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Excuse me, Shari. I'm sorry, yes?
Stiles: I'm sorry. I just had one correction to make on the recommendation to
City Council on Page 2 under Item 1.1 where it says dedicate 43 feet of right-of-
way. That should be 48.
Corrie: Is that just a typographical error and the developer knows it already?
Stiles: Yes. Ada County Highway District requested 48 feet.
Anderson: Mr. Mayor.
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Corrie: Mr. Anderson.
Anderson: I would make a motion that we close the public hearing.
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Motion made a seconded to close the public hearing. Any further
discussion? All those in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Corrie: Council discussion?
Anderson: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Anderson.
Anderson: I guess I would commend the developer and the architect because I
think this is a nice-looking project in my opinion. I think some of the changes
they made are, would be very beneficial for traffic-flow patterns, improvements to
Black Cat with the curb and sidewalk, the extension of our greenbelt pathway
system. I think that's a real plus for the City, and the density of it is well within
the zoning, and I just think this is a good, clean project. I like it.
Corrie: Any other comments?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Okay. I'll entertain a motion to (inaudible) prepare to the order then.
Bentley: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bentley.
Bentley: I move we instruct the city attorney to prepare Findings of Facts and
Conclusions of Law with the due-pass recommendation for the preliminary plat
proposed for English Gardens Subdivision by Projects West.
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to have the attorney draw up the proper
order and Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law in the affirmative. Any
further discussion?
Rountree: Mr. Mayor.
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Corrie: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Can I assume that to include staff comments and recommendation
from Planning and Zoning?
Bentley: That's correct.
Corrie: Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor of the motion
say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
ITEM 12A. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR TRANSFER OF
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FROM MIKE WETZEL TO KATHY
ANDERSON FOR DAYCARE/PRESCHOOL:
Corrie: Item No. 12A is a public hearing: Request for transfer of conditional use
permit from Mike Wetzel to Kathy Anderson for daycare/preschool. At this time
I'll open the public hearing on Item 12A and invite staff comments first.
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, this is for a transfer of an existing daycare located
on the northwest corner of Cherry and Northwest 11th. Our only condition that we
would ask is that any signage be subject to design review by Planning and
Zoning Department staff and that we do a re-inspection to ensure compliance
with current ordinance and also have the fire department re-inspect.
Corrie: Okay. Anything else? Okay. Being a public hearing, I'll invite the
applicant to step forward, please.
Kathy Anderson: Good evening, Mr. Mayor and members of the City Council.
I'm here tonight to request a transfer of a conditional use permit for the purpose
of opening and operating a preschool in Meridian. Currently, Idaho ranks 49th in
the Nation for quality of daycare. It is my intention to do my part to help improve
our state's standing. My goals are to offer the best quality preschool education at
affordable rates; maintain low student-teacher ratios ensuring plenty of individual
attention to all students; require all teachers to go through a licensing process
including federal fingerprinting and background checks; require teachers to seek
continuing education; install a minimum of two computers per classroom
specifically for student use; to complete the accreditation process within the next
two years; within three years install closed-circuit cameras which will allow
parents to monitor their children's daily activities via the internet. I am also
improving the site. To date, new paint is being applied inside and out; new
wheelchair ramp and handrails are also being installed; a new lawn will be
planted in the spring along with new play equipment shortly thereafter. Opening
this preschool will allow me to do two things: the chance to expand the minds of
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the youngest citizens ensuring their success in elementary school and creating
and building a successful business that I can be proud of. Thank you.
Corrie: Okay. Just maybe my mistake, but I didn't get your name.
Kathy Anderson: Oh. I'm sorry. It's Kathy Anderson.
Corrie: Thank you, Kathy. I thought so, but I needed to make sure. Thank you.
Kathy Anderson: Thank you.
Corrie: Anyone else that would like to enter testimony in this request for transfer
of conditional use permit? Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion of Council to
close the public hearing.
Rountree: So moved.
Anderson: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to close the public hearing on Item No. 12A.
Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Corrie: I'll entertain discussion or a motion from Council.
Bentley: I have no discussion.
Bird: I have none.
Rountree: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: I just have a procedural question. Does this require a Finding or can
we just approve -
Gigray: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Gigray.
Gigray: Members of the Council, if you choose as is recommended by the
administrator, and I didn't hear any objection on the part of the applicant to
include some conditions which are not in the original conditional use permit over
and above the order transfer, I would need some direction in that regard, and we
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would include those additional conditions in the order and the ones that I heard
had to do with the signage review and the re-inspection.
Corrie: Thank you, Mr. Gigray.
Rountree: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: I move that we have city attorney prepare an order approving the
transfer of conditional use permit from Mike Wetzel to Kathy Anderson with the
additional conditions in the order that signage be subject to design review and
the fire department re-inspect the site.
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Anderson - excuse me, Mr. Rountree and seconded
by Mr. Bird to approve the request for transfer and with the additional conditions
set forth in the motion. Further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor of
the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Anderson: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Anderson.
Anderson: I think these next couple might go a little longer. I think we better
take our customary break. I would make a motion we take our break now.
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Okay. We'll have a ten-minute break. Thank you.
(At which time the City Council meeting was in recess at 8:45 p.m.)
ITEM 128. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND
ZONING TO R-15 AND L-O FOR VALERI HEIGHTS
SUBDIVISION BY GOLD RIVER COMPANIES, INC.-NE
CORNER OF PINE STREET AND TEN MILE ROAD:
Corrie: All right. If I could have your attention, please, we'll open the meeting
back from the recess. Item No. 128. This is a public hearing: Request for
annexation and zoning to R-15 and L-O for Valeri Heights Subdivision by Gold
River Companies, Inc., northeast corner of Pine Street and Ten Mile Road. How
many people are here for testimony on 128? Okay. Seems like there's quite a
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few. We'd appreciate it if you would keep the comments pretty close to three
minutes. I just looked at my watch (inaudible) I'll have one of the Councilman tell
me when the three minutes, and then we'll give you the high sign for time here.
I'll open the public hearing on Item 12B, the request for annexation and zoning.
We'll need to have staff comments first, please.
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, this is for the property at the northeast corner of
Pine and Ten Mile. If you're familiar with this property, the Ten Mile comes
through this corner here. They have concrete barricades around this intersection
just because it is a dangerous intersection. The applicant has submitted a
request for annexation and zoning. I'm not sure the exact configuration. Part of
this would be they had requested for an L-O and the remainder of it for an R-15.
They have submitted the conditional use permit proposal and the preliminary plat
which Planning and Zoning Commission elected to leave as a continued item on
their agenda to see if the City Council would support this request for annexation
and zoning. You have their recommendation and their reasons for
recommending denial of the project. If I can answer any questions, I would be
happy to.
Corrie: Any questions of staff at this point?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Okay. Public hearing is open. I'll invite the developer, the request to the
annexation and zoning to (inaudible).
Unger: Mr. Mayor and Council members, my name is Bob Unger, I'm with
Pinnacle Engineers, our address is 670 North Linder Road, Suite BJ Meridian,
Idaho. We represent the Gold River Companies, Inc. on this project. As staff
has reviewed, we are requesting a rezone to an - an annexation and zoning to
an R-15 and an L-O. As Shari said, this corner right here, we're requesting for
the L-O and the balance of the property would be for the R-15. The Planning and
Zoning Commission reviewed the project or the request for the annexation and
zoning on September 14, and as Shari said, they made their recommendations
and on the annexation and zoning and tabled the conditional use permit and the
preliminary plat. I don't know whether you gentlemen this evening want to
address the annexation and the zoning or whether you want to look at the entire
project. We are prepared to present the entire project to you and respond to
each and every issue that was brought up by the Planning and Zoning
Commission. I think it is somewhat appropriate for you to all at least look at the
project as far as what we're proposing which we need the zoning and the
annexation for, but I will try to keep that as brief as possible, and if you want
additional information, we have three or four representatives here for the project
who can respond to additional questions on the project itself. We are proposing
158 apartment units and a limited office complex. We also are looking at - we're
proposing townhouses here and here. All of these would be single-story
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apartments. We have single- and two-story here, and these are all two- and
three-story apartments in this area here. This is all an open-space area with
clubhouse, pool, numerous recreational facilities in that area. This is the L-O
property, the area that we're requesting an L-O, and this is an office space that
we would - are proposing to build in the project. The City Comprehensive Plan
calls for development of this particular area right in through here as a mixed use.
This would allow up to an R-40 type development, and we are requesting an R-
15. It also provides, this particular zoning would provide an excellent buffer to
the industrial-type zoning that is called for down here on the south side of the
tracks, of the railroad tracks. The - I hope you folks got a copy of our response
letter pertaining to the Findings that were made by the Planning and Zoning
Commission on their recommendation for denial. One of the first things I want to
point out to you is that in their deliberation prior to taking their vote for the
recommendation, each one of the Planning and Zoning Commission members
present that evening indicated that they thought and felt that an R-15 was
appropriate for this property. I don't know if you have copies of the minutes. I
have not seen them, and I hope it's in there. If not, we certainly would like to get
the tape and listen to that. They do all, each and every one of them, felt that it
was appropriate for an R-15 zoning on this property. In reviewing the Findings
for their decision, one of the issues - the first issue that was brought up was the
traffic on Ten Mile. There's an ACHD report; Highway District Commission has
reviewed the project, they have approved the project, felt that there would be no
adverse affect on the traffic system from this project. There's also a traffic study
which was done by Dolby Engineering that also supports their decision. The
second issue that was in the Findings was the tandem parking and the potential
stacking and circulation problems within the development itself. First of all, this
is something that needs to be addressed in the conditional use/preliminary plat
review. If's not an issue of the annexation and zoning. But we've tried to
respond to some of those concerns. Our original plan - from our original plan we
have reduced by better than half - I believe almost % the number of tandem
parking. We still are reflecting in this area some tandem parking and also over in
this area, but we have provided additional parking to go along with that to prevent
any potential backing up or stacking problems that might occur. As far as
circulation, we have good circulation throughout the project. We have provided
sufficient parking as required by Code, and, once again, this is an issue that
should be reviewed in the CU and the preliminary plat. Talk about the
incompatibility of this use and the surrounding area, I believe like I said, the
Comprehensive Plan calls for this type of development or allows this type of
development. It also - this development would also provide an excellent buffer
to the more commercial/industrial uses to the south. The fourth Finding they
listed is the quality of materials is inconsistent with the proposed upscale nature
of this development. We didn't review the materials with them. We gave - we
told them what type of materials and type of development that we were
proposing. I'm not sure where they found - where they came up with this at all,
and once again, this is an issue for the conditional use and not the annexation
and zoning. Fire access. There's no response from the Meridian Fire
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Department saying that there is a problem with fire access within this
development. That is a statement that came from someone who testified in
opposition. Their Finding here is not based upon any factual matter whatsoever.
The last and final is the density of the development. In the Comprehensive Plan
will allow up to an R-40. We're requesting an R-15. We feel this density is very
appropriate. It's a good transitional density and well within the limits of the
Comprehensive Plan. I can go on and address more issues that pertains strictly
to the development layout itself and the traffic and the materials and windows.
We have it all here this evening if you want to see it. We'll be more than glad to
bring it in because it's all over here in the corner for your review if you want to
review that. At this point, we feel that the project is a good project. It falls well
within the limits of the Comprehensive Plan. The project can be sewered, it can
- we can - we have drainage lots and it can be drained. There's a gentleman
that's going to stand up here and tell you that he's been in the development
business for 40 years and there's no way we can sewer it or drain it. Well, a
good engineer can do that. We have a good engineering firm and engineers that
can do that. He knows that. At this point, I can stand for questions or we can
bring up somemore of our people.
Bentley: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bentley.
Bentley: Thank you. At the beginning you spoke that you were here for the
annexation and zoning, but you'd like to show us the plats and your design and
everything else. Then you get into discussing the problems that P & Z has with
it, and you're saying that this shouldn't be discussed now. Well, you can't have it
both ways. So if we're going to open it up for everything, we're going to discuss
everything. The first question I've got for you is when was the traffic study done?
Unger: Traffic study was done in August of '99.
Bentley: Okay. You're taking a traffic study that's in the middle of summer which
no where near reflects the amount of traffic that goes through that intersection
when the kids are in school. We've got an abundance of kids that drive to
Meridian High and they all come right down that street or they go the other way,
and we all know what a stacking problem we've got at Meridian and Linder. I've
got a real problem with your traffic study being during the summer months when
we have nine months of kids in cars.
Unger: Okay. I can briefly address that. I can have Mr. Dolby get up and
address that. He and I have discussed the same. The stacking problem that
occurs from the school is in the afternoon, and that ranges from 2:30 to 3:30 and
the school traffic is gone. Okay? It really doesn't change the traffic study itself,
but I also, at this point, I think it's important to point out to you that we have
talked with the Highway District and the Highway District concurs with us and
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they're going to work with us. We're going to be putting in a left-turn lane on
Pine right here. They're going to - we're going to tile the Ten Mile drain there.
Highway District's going to work with us. They're going to provide the tile, we're
going to install it, and that way we'll be able to widen it and put in a left-turn lane
and, of course, a right-turn lane. As far as addressing, you know, the traffic
study, I think Mr. Dolby would be the one to really give you all the details that you
would need on that.
Rountree: Do you have any means of controlling the people? The kids in
general using your facility to pass on through to avoid that stacking area?
Because we have that problem at Pine and Linder where they go through the
businesses that are across the street on the east side. How are you going to
keep those vehicles from going up and driving through the subdivisions to the
north of it?
Unger: I'm sorry. Pine and Linder? Okay. Right. That's where my office is.
Thank you. Actually, at Pine and Linder, it's very, very easy for the kids - well,
half the kids park over there. That's why I never have parking spot. I have to
walk a half a block to get to my office. But that is a very, very direct - it's just a
right turn and boom, they're out of there and through that cutting through that
area. This is not as easy; although, we have good circulation. It's not something
that's going to make it easy for them to come through here and cut over here,
come back out over here. It's just not that simple. You have parking - parked
cars and things to that effect. It's really not going to be as easy for them to cut
through there as it is at Pine and Linder.
Rountree: I have concern for apartments, you're going to have children, and I
have some real concerns that they will be cutting through there. Not just through
there. They'll go up through the north and cut out through the subdivision to the
north.
Unger: Kids will do that at any subdivision be it a multi-family subdivision, be it a
single-family subdivision -
Rountree: But when you have an intersection that doesn't have a traffic-control
light on it, it stacks. That's all I have.
Unger: Yeah. We understand your concerns and do appreciate those.
Corrie: Any other questions?
Anderson: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Anderson.
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Anderson: I had a couple. Concerning traffic, you had mentioned on Pine you
were going to put in a left-hand turn lane, I'm assuming to go south on Ten Mile;
is that what you're talking about?
Unger: Yes.
Anderson: And the right-hand - are you going to make any improvements on
Ten Mile itself?
Unger: Absolutely.
Anderson: Turn lanes or-
Unger: There's extensive improvements required by the Highway District.
There'll be a center island that will run from the corner up to approximately this
area right in here. This entrance right here is a right-in right-out only. This would
have full access, this one has full access. Left-turn lane to Pine southbound.
Yes. There's extensive improvements that we have to make on Ten Mile.
Rountree: I'm surprised they would even allow that lower - the right-only exit
from the facility. It just looks like it's very close to the intersection to me.
Unger: It meets the Highway District's requirements.
Rountree: Does it?
Unger: Yes.
Anderson: You mentioned you were going to tile the ditch; were you talking
about the entire ditch that's on that piece of property or just a section right in the
corner, or how much area of that are you going to tile?
Unger: It runs right across like this. So we'll be tiling it from Ten Mile over to
Pine.
Anderson: You'll tile that entire section on that piece of property.
Unger: Hence, we won't have anymore barriers there, won't have anymore cars
in the ditches - you know, I used to live at Cherry Lane Golf Course up until just
a couple of months ago, and I know this intersection really well.
Rountree: I live right behind Albertson's, so I drive it several times a day, too.
I'm very familiar with the intersection. That's all the questions I have. Thank you.
Bird: Mayor, I do have one.
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Corrie: Okay. Mr. Bird.
Bird: Again, date on the latest plans?
Unger: This latest plan - this revised plan here was done approximately 10 days
ago. I've made a note to myself we'll do those revisions, put the dates on there
for you from now on.
Bird: Yeah. Thanks.
Corrie: You had a question?
Unger: Do you want us to bring up Mr. Dolby to address the traffic and our
architect and the developer and have them testify on the project itself, overall
project? Certainly, we can do that.
Corrie: You'll have the last word, so if you want to have them address any
questions that may come up, you can do that. It's a public hearing, so I'll start
the public hearing on this side. All those in favor of the project, and when they're
through, we'll do the opposition, and you'll have the chance to be the last to
answer the questions that may come up.
Unger: Okay.
Corrie: I'll leave it up to you and Mr. Dolby.
Unger: Okay.
Corrie: Okay.
Unger: Thank you.
Corrie: Thank you. Okay. Anyone else that would wish to testify in favor of the
project? Okay. You go first. If you will give us your name and spell your last
name, please.
Fuller: Yes. My name is Shirley Fuller, F-U-L-L-E-R. I own the property that
we're discussing right now. My husband was unable to come here tonight. He's
up hunting. I think most of you know him as Mr. Roadway. I thought maybe it'd
be best if I showed up anyway. Seeings how you haven't seen my pleasant face.
We're well aware of the situation with the amount of traffic on this corner. We
have called several people, City Councils (inaudible) City of Meridian, Ada
County Highway, begging them to put a light in there. We've owned - well, this
property - most of you have been around here for quite awhile, and you know
this property as being the old Depler (sic) place. I'm sure you do. Growing up in
Meridian, I love this place. This place was my heart. I always wanted it. My
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husband and I, we finally purchased it eight years ago. We knew then when we
bought the property that the high school was down the road and that we were
going to have a certain amount of traffic. We knew we could live with the traffic
from the high school kids. We knew that would be fine. Then look at all those
subdivisions. My goodness. You talk about peace and quiet. Boy, it was ruined
for me. I work nights. I try to sleep during the daytime. It doesn't happen. If I
don't get home in time before the rush hour starts and all of these other things
take place, I don't get any sleep. I'd like to sell out and get out and be on my way
someplace else. This corner is kind of a special corner. It has people thinking.
It has people thinking of the fact, you know, we don't want anymore traffic. We
don't want this kind of operation going on here. You know what's really
interesting? I didn't really care for those people moving north of me, either.
They're probably not going to like me when I start bailing hay about 2:00 in the
morning. If I have to go out and change water at four or five; but you know what?
That's part of growth. That's part of change. My husband went and talked to
some of the people north of us last week, and they said, "You know what? We
really love your horses and we love your silo, and, God, it's just a great place."
Uh-huh. Well, we wanted to be out of here before you guys got here, but we're
not. This corner, we looked at it for a long time and think of what we want to do
with it. That's kind of our little nest egg. What do we want to do with it? Do we
want to go on and do something with it? Do we want to sell it to the first guy that
comes along? We offered it to Mr. Blaser three times. On the first and second
try, he says, well, I'm not ready for that yet. He was still working on the other
parts of Haven Cove. Well, that's fine. We can understand that. So then Vicki
Welker came to us with a proposal, an offer, and we decided that she was the
only one that would really address the corner issue, because it is a bad corner.
had - cannot tell you how many people I've pulled out of that ditch, how many
drunks have run the stop sign. It needs a light. That's what it needs. Vicki's
going to widen it. That's wonderful. But come on, guys. It needs a light. You
talk about stacking up, sure they stack up, but you know what? They're going to
Albertson's to go buy food for lunch. You know. They're leaving. They're going.
You talk about the amount of congestion and traffic. You want to talk about
traffic? Let's put a light on the corner of Pine and Linder. Let's get some flow to
all of these areas instead of stacking up. That would help a lot. I see no problem
with the complex that she has here. I've talked to a lot of people that I work with.
I work for Albertson's -
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what this is. This is going to be an enhancement to Meridian. It's not going to be
a determent. I'd like to see this done nicely. I'd like to see it done nicely
because this has been mine for eight years. It was the old Depler place, and I'd
like it to be something - people that go by and say, "Yeah. That's great. That's
a nice complex right there," instead of, "Oh yeah. There's just another
subdivision. See the cracker-box houses?" Well, there we go. Thank you. I do
ramble on a lot. Thank you for your time and your patience.
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Corrie: Thank you.
Welker: Good evening. My name is Vicki Welker. I live at 2326 West Renoir
Court, and I am the developer of this project. First of all, I would like to distribute
to you copies of a petition that we've been working on. We've gone out door-to-
door and to businesses and people in the community, both renters and
homeowners, people who want to move into Meridian and people who work in
Meridian, and we have positive support for this project. In three days, we've
obtained 102 signatures in favor of the project. They were shown the drawings,
they were shown the building drawings and the layout, and they were given
information on everything I know about the project which hopefully is everything
there is to know. The quality of the project seems to be in question, and I'd like
to address that. I'm attempting to do an upscale, professional housing project
here that Meridian can be proud of. Meridian has been trying to make itself
known as the place to be. So far, Meridian doesn't have an upscale apartment
project. A lot of our children and our grandchildren live in Boise because that's
where there are upscale projects that have amenities that go with them,
amenities that are in the center where their children can play and not be in the
street which is a concern you addressed. That is one of the reasons we have the
amenities for the project encircled by the buildings so that the children can be
safer. I don't have a problem with making this a gated community if that helps
alleviate drive-through. That lends itself to upscale, and I'd be happy to do that.
My father is Roger Welker. He owned Meridian Ford here in town for 45 years,
and he was the volunteer fire chief for 37 years. I'm not about to bring a project
in that would damage my father's reputation in this community. I am about
quality, I am willing to work with everyone on it6 Some of the neighbors have
expressed concerns to me about the fact that the roads go through that
subdivision. We did one plan where we looped the roads to stop the traffic so it
wouldn't come through that subdivision or we couldn't go through that
subdivision. That's a personal preference is not to be able to go back and forth,
but I was told I couldn't do that. We have re-drawn this project six times to try
and address all of the concerns. I am willing to do it again. I am willing to meet
with the neighbors. I tried to contact the neighbors. Word didn't get through to
some of them, so they haven't had an opportunity to sit down and see what we're
doing and to give me their input. I'm more than happy to work with them on that.
If you have any questions or concerns, I appreciate your time.
Corrie: Okay. I'll let (inaudible). Any questions?
Bird: I have none.
Anderson: I have none.
Corrie: Okay. Thank you, Vicki. Anyone else to issue testimony in favor? Okay.
Testimony against? Oh. You're in favor? Okay. Give us your name and spell
the last name.
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Killian: (inaudible) Killian, K-I-L-L-I-A-N.
Corrie: Thank you.
Killian: I have a couple issues to address regarding the property. One of the
issues that I am aware of - I am formerly in property management myself. I was
assistant manager at Woodbine Complex in southeast Boise which is a very
upscale apartment complex. One thing that I do know about Boise complexes is
there is quite a bit of competition, and I think it's healthy because it creates a
need for owners and management to maintain their properties, create anything
that's more enticing to renters to come in. That's one thing that I really think that
Meridian lacks as far as their apartment complexes that are here. Either they're
low-income properties or they are properties that basically don't have much
competition; therefore, there's not much maintenance, there's not much upkeep
as far as the looks and the exterior to get more residents coming in to rent
because they're mostly full. I was born and raised in Meridian. I love the city.
want to stay here, but it's been very difficult for me as a young person to find
upscale apartment to rent. I'm not anywhere near ready to move into a home
yet. I would definitely want to do that in the future, but I would like to be able to
have more selection out there for apartments that I can rent that are decent, that
are upscale. I'd like to see competition. I think it's healthy for the City. There is
a drastic need for it here in the town from the people that I've talked to. Another
thing that I wanted to address is that I do believe that this property is a quality
property. I've compared it to a lot of the properties that I'm familiar with as far as
places in Boise. I do see it as being a positive growth for Meridian residents.
Thank you for your time.
Corrie: Thank you. Anyone else in favor that would like to testify? State you
name, spell the last name, please.
Alvarado: My name's Steve Alvarado, A-L-V-A-R-A-D-O. Mr. Mayor and
Councilmen, I'd just like to address these issues with this. As far as the driving,
the traffic goes, I think that it's going to exist there no matter what you try to do.
From listening to this and also listening on some of the Planning and Zoning
meetings that went on with this, it kind of seems to me that those aren't the real
issues. It seems more like to me that it's becoming a battle of subdivision
against apartment complexes. I'm a student and a full-time - working full time
right now, and I know what it's like to want to protect your family. I have a two-
year-old son, and I understand those issues, but, you know, like the lady was
saying for, you know, there's just not very many places to live. Two months ago I
was looking for a place to live. I can't afford a house right now, I'm a young guy,
barely starting out, and, you know, I'd love to have a house some day, you know,
and I think these subdivisions are nice, but I like the variety in the choice.
Something else that I found was that the rents were higher because there are a
lot of people who want to get away from Boise, live away, and so because there
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are so few apartment complexes in the area, there's really not anything you can
do about that. The other issue is that the complexes that are here aren't really all
that great. They could use work. I think there are some good ones, but I think
further competition would help all of them try to attempt to make themselves
better. It's just my opinion that the developer, you know, has done a lot to re-
plan, she seems willing to work with everybody, and I think it's kind of, you know,
someone who's willing to work that hard, you know, you should go with that
because a lot of times you'll get somebody in here who's going to be big
business, some big company's going to come in and they're going to have the
money and, you know, they're going to come in and eventually, growth is going
to happen whether you want it or not. People say they moved to Idaho - they
enjoy the quiet, it's peaceful, it's a nice town, well, it can still be a nice town, you
know. Apartment people aren't any less than people who live in houses. They're
just starting out fresh, you know, trying to get a grip on life, and I'd like to have a
nice place to live and that was affordable. That's all. .
Corrie: Thank you. You're doing real good on the time. Thank you. Anyone
else in favor of the project? Okay. Opposed? State you name and spell the last.
Blaser: I'm Glenn Blaser and I live at 3450 Stonecreek Road in Boise. My
qualifications are I designed and built the nine-story apartment house next to St.
Luke's called Bannock Arms. I built Glenn Manor; it's on 8th Street behind
(inaudible) the one that's up on stilts, and you park underneath it. I built
University Village Apartments which is a government subsidized housing, and at
one time I owned and was managing 264 apartments in Boise, so I know a little
bit about apartments. This is - before the Planning and Zoning Committee, I got
a little carried away, so I have to watch my words carefully. This project needs a
lot, leaves a lot to be desired. I can't imagine that where they get this idea that
the Highway District approves their highway plans. I talked to Gary Ensleman
about it, and he says, "We don't examine the traffic on a plat until the plat comes
in." He said, "We've been asking about that and we haven't made any objections
and until a plat is presented to us, we really have nothing to go by. It's just word
of mouth." Larry Sale was standing in the rear. He didn't enter into the
conversation. I don't know what he thought, but he didn't disagree. Now this is
not an upscale apartment. This is poorly designed, and it would not pass
subsidized housing standards. The FHA would not approve this project. May I
walk over there and point, it's hard to -
Corrie: There's a microphone right there. You've got about two minutes. We
just want to get it on the record.
Blaser: Right in here, you come in here, the fire truck is supposed to make that
bend right there. Now that bend cannot be made by the fire truck because they -
on all our subdivisions, they won't let (inaudible). This is not a road. This is a
parking lot. Tandem parking on each side. If a woman has her car in a garage
wants to get it out, she's got to park this car parking two spaces, she brings the
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other car - and then she drives the car out of the garage and parks it over here
parking a couple more and then she puts this car in the garage. That is horse
and buggy time - now the drainage in this thing - let me just go back and say
this that I put in an application before this board here two years ago to build 12
townhouses on this property. That was R-4. It's three acres, and you turned me
down. You didn't want multiple housing here. Twelve on three acres. Now, 158
on 12 acres plus commercial, we brought the sewer right to this point. My
engineers which is Pacific Land Surveyors, they say that this portion of the
project can be sewered, but this one can't be sewered without lift pump. Now
maybe they're - maybe they don't know what they're talking about, but that is the
reason we haven't been anxious to acquire that because this is so low. Now you
can't widen this down here because the drain ditch is right over here. If you're
going to widen, that street's got to acquire property on this side of the street, too.
This (inaudible) Pine Street. This drainage in here would be abominable
because you see, there aren't any gutters. This is just one flat parking spot here
with 320 cars, 156 each person nationally has more than two cars, 320 cars. I
went up to Larry Barnes and (inaudible) 320 cars - that's a lot of automobiles.
Corrie: One more minute.
Blaser: Okay. Any way to drain this property, they're trying to drain it into this
central pond. Same time they're trying to use this pond as one of the amenities
to support their clubhouse sort of like a little lake. It can't be full of water and be
a drainage pond. It's either got to be empty to catch the water when it comes.
Now all of the roofs and all of this blacktop in here will shed water and there'll be
a lot more water than comes off this subdivision or you only have the roads
because you got the whole parking lot and all the rooms. The front doors of
these apartments look out into the back of these garages. There's no front yard;
the back yard, they're side by side when you - (inaudible) air conditioner behind
everyone of those, and they're made out of this cardboard siding, the noise from
those air conditioners will make that unlivable. I (inaudible) fence generally been
after me as the developer, so I hate to be too blunt, but this is not the kind of a
project that you would want. You've been careful in making your subdivisions,
and I think you've done a good job so far. But the police and the - would be
down this project every other day settling arguments and squabbling, and it isn't
only the kids that are going to cut through that project. There's going to be 320
cars in that project. Thank you very much. I can say a lot more, but I've already
given you the idea that I don't like it.
Rountree: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: If I could ask a question of Glenn.
Blaser: Yes.
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Rountree: Certainly I can understand how you feel about the project. The
question before us is, one, do we annex the property; and two, if we annex it,
what zoning is applicable? In your opinion, is this something that you would
favor -
Blaser: I admire you gentlemen because the job you have - I don't envy your
job. I don't want it, but I do not oppose apartments. I wouldn't mind a decent
number of apartments in that project, but 158 plus a limited office space. Now,
he said that corner they're going to have a left-turn lane there. That's where the
parking is going to be for the limited office space. You know, you're just
cramming too much in too little space. If they want to build a high-rise, you could
get that many apartments on that spot. To stick them in like that, that would be
hard to rent and -
Rountree: You've answered my question.
Blaser: To answer your question -
Rountree: I think you have.
Blaser: -- I would annex it, but I don't know what I'd zone it. You could certainly
put apartments on it. I don't think this project is up to standards. We've built
these other lots over there would feel knifed in the back if a project like that went
In -
Rountree: Thank you. You've answered the question. Thank you.
Corrie: Yes, sir.
daRosa: My name is Joe daRosa, D-A-R-O-S-A. I live at 1162 North Lightning.
In fact, we're here for the annexation in question is what I'm seeing here, and the
representative for the developer, the first representative indicated to you that the
Planning and Zoning Committee, all of the members indicated that that zoning
was okay, that they liked it. But, in fact, if you go through the minutes, and I
know because I stayed here the whole time, they said that the density was too
high for that area. They did not like the amount of apartments or the amount -
the density for that particular property. The other issue I have is there are no
other apartment complexes in Meridian that have - that would - that when they
said the stacking problem would come through here or if any of these people in
this apartment complex would go through the subdivisions, which is Thunder
Creek and Haven Cove at this point. There are no other apartment complexes
that actually have these exits. That was another condition that the Planning and
Zoning did not deem approvable was because it did have these accesses into
the subdivision. The other concern I have is that when they were talking about
the last time when he came up in front of Planning and Zoning, he said that this
was rated F when he came to the traffic issue. His comment was, "We can't
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make it any worse than an F because that's as bad as it can get." Well, sorry,
gentlemen. At this point, that particular zoning or that particular annexation or
that particular project just does not fit with the existing area. He was indicating
that would be a nice mix or nice change compared to the industrial that's going
on the south side of the railroad tracks. That's a quarter of a mile down on the
road where the railroad tracks are. He's talking about the south side of that.
He's not talking about directly across from it. In my opinion this just doesn't fit
with the surrounding area, and the aesthetic view or the density that would - the
amount that it would cost. Populational. Thank you.
Corrie: Thank you. Your name and spell the last name, please.
Walther: My name is Rees Walther, W-A-L-T-H-E-R. I attended the last
Comprehensive Plan meeting, and in the Comprehensive Plan meeting that the
old Comprehensive Plan was stating that this was to be zoned multi-use area.
Now what came up at the Planning and Zoning - the Comprehensive Plan
meeting was that between R-4 and any other zoning, what needed to be done
was creating a buffer zone. I think, given the other testimony and what's been
said at the Planning and Zoning meeting last month, that a better use of this area
would be a much-needed park. I heard in the last Valley News, the last one, that
it was - that park space was really needed in the Meridian area. I also, being an
educator, I also believe and knowing that - I teach at Eagle Middle School, we
have 1400 students. We're built for 1 ,000. I think a better use for it, and I talked
to the Mayor last year, I had you in my class room last year, and you were saying
that we needed to set aside and plan for the future as far as schools go. I think
that would be a much better usage of the area as well. Also, traffic, it's already
been addressed, but I'd just like to address it again, it's already a high-traffic area
and it's just going to get more and more and more traffic. It's going to be -
already going to be - it's already planned to become a five-lane way and a
connector onto the freeway. It's - to add this many more right there on the area
is, I think, I feel, is too much. Mr. Bentley, you've already addressed my other
concern. It was this traffic study was done on August 9th when there's no
students around. Just one other bit of concern. I would like for the neighbors to
move as well. Seeing that he has come over to my house and threatened me
and told me that he was going to become a bad neighbor if we fought City
Council on this. So I just feel that this is a wrong area for apartments, and I feel
that there's a lot of support for that. Thank you.
Corrie: Thank you.
Ash: My name is Bonnie Ash, it's A-S-H. I live at 2430 West State Street, and I
would like to challenge to all of you if you don't think there's a traffic problem to
try to get onto Pine to take your children to the high school which I've done for
five, six years in that area. It's not just after school. It's before school, it's when
they go on break, and it's at lunchtime. In addition, I teach in the Meridian
District and have since I moved here 13 years ago. Please, please, please look
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at the population. You know, I have worked at a school where I've seen what
apartments - they add more children. We're already adding because of
subdivisions. But this is too many for that small space. The best thing we can do
for our kids is provide schools and we can't keep up with what we're doing. I just
think it's a very poor place to put that number of people. The schools in that
area, around that area are at capacity. Meridian High has been as large as a
small college. Please consider that when you think of the use of the area. Thank
you.
Atkinson: Hi. I'm Erma Calnan Atkinson, Atkinson is A-T-K-I-N-S-O-N. Life-long
resident of this community, and currently building at 1124 North Lightning. This
has been one heck - this is really (inaudible) getting to know the neighborhood.
We heard about all of this on Saturday when we were visiting our home. I
assume you all received my letter that I sent to the Mayor and the Councilmen. If
not, I have copies available at no charge back there. I just wanted to reiterate a
couple of points. On the traffic, it's not limited to 45 minutes, obviously, when the
kids from the high school are leaving. I've done the carpool thing for a couple of
years between Chaparral Elementary and Meridian Elementary with the
neighborhood kids. We have the morning rush. We have the afternoon rush.
We have the lunchtime rush. So it's a day-long event. Secondly, I think there's a
difference between what's allowable under the Comprehensive Plan and what's
appropriate with the existing homes and the traffic limitations. I have no problem
with the corner developing. I expect that. I've lived here all my life. I've seen it
happen. But I guess I would challenge the developer on given the makeup of the
existing area, how can 600 people living on 12 acres ever be considered
upscale?
Corrie: Thank you.
Tamas: Good evening, Mr. Mayor. My name is Marie Tamas, the last name is
T -A-M-A-S. I live at 1125 North Roper. A lot of things have been addressed
here this evening. Earlier in the evening you introduced a gentleman here to -
for your police department. We live in the Court. My husband is retired. He is
home all day long. I don't know how many times just in the nine months we've
been there, he has had to call the police to have them come drive through to
slow the kids down, high-school students, while school was in effect. Then when
school was out, he had to call the kids because of the building, kids were getting
into the houses and damages, fires, so forth. Imagine the police kind of know his
name by now. I would like you to consider this. If you are considering a
gentleman on your police force how to serve us better and possibly increase it.
You increase it by that many people living in that small space, you're going to get
tempers flared, you're going to have a lot more police called in that area. Then
that area's going to get a bad name. Thank you.
Corrie: Thank you.
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Wade: Hi. My name's Lisa Wade, W-A-D-E, and I'm a concerned mom because
about the traffic. My son has to walk to Meridian High School along that road,
and the traffic is horrendous. To put 300 more cars in there, they have a zero
hour at Meridian High School. They also have kids getting out throughout the
day. That's not - it's not a 45-minute problem. My son has to walk along that
road, and there's kids going across - along there, that's going to cause - there
are going to be kids in that apartment building going to school, too. I can't get
out of my subdivision when school's getting out to go pick up my son to drive him
home because of traffic is so bad. The other thing is, I bought my dream house,
and I bought it because I can see the Owyhees from my house. As soon as
those three-story apartments go in, my view's gone. You know, I don't
appreciate that. There's a lot of two-story houses is the same thing. I don't want
to look at the back of somebody's apartment. Thank you for your time.
Corrie: Thank you.
Walters: Hi. Good evening. My name is Jeff Walters, W-A-L-T-E-R-S, I'm just a
resident, 2496 West Forecast. I don't have a lot of expertise in engineering and
all that stuff. I'm just a concerned resident there. Basically, like all these other
people, I just want my name on the record that this is just way too many people
for that small space, and along the traffic problems, you're going to have a lot of
other ones, mostly which have been addressed. One of the big ones that I see
that I think it's funny, I didn't even think about the fire department until that first
gentleman, engineer brought it up, but you put that many people there, forget
getting a fire engine in. How are you going to service that many people?
Meridian, when I moved in, I was told that my fire insurance was higher because
I live in Meridian rather than Boise because of the coverage by Meridian Fire
Department. I know they're expanding, but are they going to be able to expand
to a rate that we're incurring on them by doing this? I think that's something to
be considered that wasn't brought up. I didn't even think about that until that
gentleman brought that up. I just thought I'd bring that to your attention it's
something a little new. And I'm very concerned as a young father with a young
child and more on the way that it will continue to increase. I don't mind growth. I
don't even think I mind apartments. A park would be great, but I'm not the
designer or the builder, so I can't say what goes there, unfortunately. I just think
it's too many - 156 is an awful lot. Sixty is an awful lot. But 158 is - however
many is - 150 plus is an awful lot. Thanks for your time.
Ryan Anderson: My name is Ryan Anderson, A-N-D-E-R-S-O-N. I live at 2565
West Carlton. We moved in about two years ago. We bought the home, our first
home, newly getting married as an investment. We have a little baby on the
way. I don't really even want anything like that in the area. I wouldn't mind an
office complex, something really nice, low scale. I've lived in two different
apartments. I was in - went to BSU for about five years and just graduated from
there. I lived in both the Clock Tower Apartments which is a gated community.
The gated community thing never works. They tried and tried. We all had
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passes, they all had our phone numbers. It just never worked. I lived also in the
Huntington Apartments, southeast Boise. Very both upscale apartments. The
ambulance and the fire trucks and the police were in there all the time. I just
don't want to see this in this area. All kinds of fights and drug busts and I got out
of that area and came out here to settle down in a nice, quiet neighborhood. I
believe it's nice and quiet. My parents were up here last weekend, and my dad
was out in the backyard, and he made a comment of how quiet and nice it was
out here, and I just really want it to stay that way. Thank you for your time.
Corrie: Thank you. Anyone else that wishes to testify? Yes, sir.
Fleming: Hello, gentlemen. My name is Michael Fleming, F-L-E-M-I-N-G. I live
at 2796 Santa Clara which is about three blocks northeast of the proposed site.
I'm a licensed, State of Idaho licensed real estate appraiser, and I've seen the
effect that projects such as this have when they're that close. Actually connected
to residential developments like that. The developer mentioned - I'm sorry. The
representative for the developer mentioned that there was a buffer zone, but
again, as the first gentleman questioned, I don't understand what it's buffering to.
The industrial is at least a quarter mile and it's on the other side of the road - it's
on the west side of Ten Mile where the new storage facility is. I just think that
this is an inharmonious land use for this area which is consistently single-family
residential, detached homes. I think we all know the density is - this kind of
density equals more traffic. I don't think that road, Ten Mile Road, is equipped to
handle that much traffic right now. I know that there is plans for it to go to five
lanes. That's like a five-year plan, I believe. I don't think it can handle it at this
point. As Mr. Anderson mentioned who lives in that subdivision where Chaparral
Elementary is, my kids cross and go across Ten Mile to go to that school also,
and right now it's extremely dangerous as it is with that kind of density there's
going to be so much more traffic, there's going to be - we can all imaging how
much worse that's going to be. I agree with you with the comment Mr. Bentley
had on the traffic study. It was done when school's not in session. This is just
going to be that much more traffic. I do a lot of residential income property
appraisals in Meridian and in Boise. I don't know if there's the need for that
many units. I don't know how they can fill that many units. I don't know if it
would ever come to - subsidized project just to fill it, but I don't think any of us
want to see any vacant units out there. I just don't know where the tenants are
going to come from to fill those units. As far as the employment, I don't know _
the nearest major employer, corporate employer, would be Hewlett Packard.
That's quite a ways away. I just don't see where the people are going to come _
the demand is. I can't see where they'd fill those units up.
Corrie: Thank you.
Fleming: Thank you.
Corrie: Anyone else? Okay. Bob, you have the last one here, then.
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Unger: Once again for the record, Bob Unger with Pinnacle Engineers. I guess
I'm just going to go down through the list here real quick and rebut some of the
testimony. I'm - as far as Mr. Blaser's comments on fire access, it's not based,
it's not founded. It's his personal opinion, and I don't believe he's really giving us
a fair shake in the - in fact, since he is the developer of the property to the north,
he feels that this development is going to hurt his development as far as sales of
his lots, et cetera. In fact, he has told me that on numerous occasions. So I'm
not sure that his opinion is - whether he's really taking a close look at this or
whether he's totally (inaudible). As far as drainage, we have seven drainage lots
on this property. We're not going to use the pond for our drainage. We have
numerous drainage lots. We have one here, one over here, here, there's one
over there, one down here. There's numerous drainage lots. So what he's
saying about us using our pond for a drainage is totally incorrect. Okay? Our
drainage has to be handled on the site, and you're right. If we're going to have a
pond, he's right - if we're going to have a pond and we were going to try to use
that for drainage, then you couldn't have water in it all the time because it
wouldn't handle the drainage for the 50 or 1 DO-year event. So we have separate
drainage ponds for the drainage. As far as sewering this property, I'll give him
that. We do have to raise this up, this corner down here, we're going to bring in
about three, four foot of fill to make it work. Like I said in the beginning, we know
how to engineer it and make it work and comply with the law. In fact, we
submitted preliminary plans for our sewer and everything to the engineering
department. They reviewed them. I've received no negative comments from
them on those. Just a quick comment. We're not building cardboard boxes here.
We will have vinyl siding, et cetera, on structures, okay? I do want to clarify, if I
could, we were talking about this being a buffer to the industrial, proposed
industrial uses based upon the Comp Plan. This corner right here heading south
and west is designated under the Camp Plan for light industrial. This area all
through here and to the south is for mixed-residential, and that's what we're
looking at and what we're asking for. The most comments I've heard this
evening are traffic. Traffic, traffic, traffic. Mr. Blaser said that he talked to Gary
Enselman, Gary Enselman has no idea, has not seen this project whatsoever.
Gentlemen, I hope you have a copy of the approval from ACHD and it's for the
entire project. It's for the conditional use, the planned development; everything.
That was approved by the Ada County Highway District Commission on 9/8/99.
So, you know, we certainly have had this reviewed. We've had Mr. Dobie do a
traffic study. We do understand that there's a lot of traffic at this intersection.
But the traffic on Ten Mile and the traffic on Pine are not even close to capacity
as designated by ACHD and APA. The traffic study that Mr. Dobie put together
and ACHD's review, they all acknowledge that it's not even close to capacity.
The intersection is not even close to capacity for these streets. Pine is to be
upgraded someday in their future plans. Ten Mile, of course, arterial, upgrading
is continually on-going. They're taking 48 feet of right-of-way out of this project
as they have done to the north, you know, for the widening, et cetera, of the
project. We feel that our density is appropriate. We feel that we comply with the
Comprehensive Plan. I don't recall seeing a response from the Chief of Police
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here in Meridian. If there was a negative response or concerns about this type of
a development and problems that it mayor may not cause, I hope I would have
seen that and been aware of that. I have not seen that. If there is, I would hope
that someone would let me know. I think it all boils down to the traffic concerns.
I think the Highway District has reviewed it appropriately. I think we are agreeing
to do above and beyond the requirements from ACHD in trying to mitigate some
of those concerns that we've heard from the neighbors. Some of the problems
that I am personally aware of in trying to provide the left-turn lane on Pine, or
westbound on Pine. Just two comparisons of recent apartment projects that
have been approved, you have Aspen Hills on Meridian Road. That's a very
large project, very nice project which this Council's approved - then we have
Cobblestone which is a subsized (sic) project that is, I believe it's on the agenda
for this evening that has gone through the approval process. What we're trying
to accomplish here is what we feel is a much more upscale project than either of
those which have recently been approved. Certainly, when we go through the
review process for the conditional use and the preliminary plat, if we get that
opportunity to go back to the Planning and Zoning Commission with that,
certainly we will be open to working with the staff and Planning and Zoning
Commission and any recommendations that they may have on the project to
alleviate some of the concerns of the neighbors and also those of the Planning
and Zoning Commission. With that, I will conclude my rebuttal testimony and
stand for any questions you might have, and certainly we ask your consideration
and ask for your approval in the project on the annexation and zoning.
Corrie: Okay. Any questions at this point?
Bird: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Do you agree with the staff reports of September 13th? Modification stuff
from the Planning and Zoning staff of September 13th?
Unger: You know, I don't have them right in front of me. Most, as I recall, the
majority of what staff had commented on we didn't have a problem with. There
were some discussions on the tandem parking, the amount of tandem parking, et
cetera that we had. I would have to look at those some more, but, certainly, we
are wide open to continual work - continually working with your staff to try to
resolve the issues that might be out there.
Corrie: Okay. Thank you, Bob.
Unger: Thank you for your time.
Corrie: Okay. Item 128, I'll entertain a motion to close the public hearing.
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Bird: So moved.
Bentley: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to close the public hearing on Item 12B:
Request for annexation and zoning. Further discussion? Hearing none, all those
in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Corrie: Council, discussion?
Bentley: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bentley.
Bentley: I think we've heard just about every argument on this thing that we can
possibly hear. I still have a real problem with the traffic flow into the subdivision.
I have a problem with the traffic flow, period, out there. I think the density is too
high for that area, for that small parcel of land, so I won't support the annexation.
Corrie: Mr. Anderson.
Anderson: Mr. Mayor. I also have concerns about the traffic and we've had a
number of projects come before us recently that are of a very high density nature
that are looking at putting on two-lane roads. I think the infrastructure is just not
there to support these types of developments at this point. I agree with Ms.
Fuller talked about a stop light. We would like to see one there, too. That's not
up to us to do. That's an Ada County Highway District function. We'd like to see
a lot more stop lights, one at Linder and Pine and some of those other areas, but
I think in light of the testimony that we've heard here tonight, I agree that this is
too dense of a project for this area and would cause some considerable traffic
problems in that area which would compound the traffic problems that we already
have. So I would not vote in favor of that project.
Rountree: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: I personally don't object to their request for the annexation. It's going
to be part of the city at some point in time whether it's now or in the future. I
don't necessarily object to the zoning request which is what the hearing was
about. It's something that the City's going to have to deal with in the near term
as it relates to these kinds of uses. We've had several of these kinds of
opportunities or challenges, if you will, presented to the City, and they're a tough
sale when they're adjacent to an R-4 subdivision, but there's still something that's
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required to make the community viable. Which gets me to the project which
seems to be where everybody is. My opinion of the project is not particularly
high. If I have to resort to denying annexation in order to get a project that might
be of what I would feel would be the right density, the appropriate buffering we've
heard about buffering. This Council's position on buffering has been more, let's
buffer existing uses. We don't see that being done at all. There's no buffering at
all adjacent to the existing R-4 subdivisions with this plan, and I can see that it
could be done relatively straight-forward. Heard testimony that the plan's been
changed six times, eight times, and they'd be willing to change it some more.
We've had developers that have taken that kind of information and gone back to
the community and they've worked out decent solutions that have been
acceptable to everybody. Come back to the City with a uniform and a directed
project that most everyone can support, so I've gone full-circle from the hearing
which is annexation and zoning to the project. Knowing that if it were annexed,
it's very difficult at that point in time to modify projects and probably lean towards
not supporting this particular application even though - it's not that I don't favor
this kind of land use. It's more directed at the project that's been presented.
Corrie: Any further discussion? Okay. Hearing none, I'll -
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request for annexation and zoning on Item 128.
Bentley: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bentley.
Bentley: I move we instruct the city attorney to prepare Findings with a request
to deny the annexation and zoning to R-15 and L-O for Valeri Heights
Subdivision by Gold River.
Anderson: I'll second that.
Corrie: Motion is made by Mr. Bentley and seconded by Mr. Anderson to have
the attorney draw up the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law for the denial
of the annexation and zoning of Item 12B. Any further discussion? Hearing
none, roll-call vote; Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Aye.
Corrie: Mr. Anderson.
Anderson: Aye.
Corrie: Mr. Bentley.
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Bentley: Ayea
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
ITEM 13.
PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND
REZONE FOR TEN MILE MINI STORAGE BY ED SEWS-WEST
OF TEN MILE AND NORTH OF USTICK ROAD:
ITEM 14.
PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT FOR MINI STORAGE FACILITY CONSISTING OF NINE
BUILDINGS AND ONE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING/OFFICE BY
ED BEWS --WEST OF TEN MILE AND NORTH OF USTICK
ROAD:
Corrie: Item No. 13 is a public hearing. This is a request for annexation and
rezone for Ten Mile Mini Storage by Ed Sews, west of Ten Mile and north of
Ustick Road. At this time, we'll open the public hearing and invite the staff for
first comments.
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, this is for the property that's located immediately
north of the Wastewater Treatment Plant on Ten Mile Road. It is designated in
the Meridian Comprehensive Plan as being agricultural rural residential which
requires a five to ten acres lots that they are residential uses. The staff's
recommendation is that if this approved for annexation and zoning that the uses
be restricted and that there be outright restriction of certain uses or the possibility
also would be that this be the only use that's permitted on that lot. The light
industrial zone that they've requested would be compatible with the Wastewater
Treatment Plant. I talked to John Shawcraft, the Wastewater Treatment Plant
operator, and he has no particular concerns with the project. I will, if I may, I
would like to cover the conditional use permit at this time in my comments.
They're proposing storage units along this entire perimeter. Would be storage
units. They have added some landscaping and we have requested that the
landscaping on this northern boundary be approved by our staff and that trees be
planted at least 40 feet on center. They also would have the office/residence
here. Staff would support leaving the Creason Lateral open provided that some
kind of treatment is given to the land area here either through some kind of lawn
or fescue or something of that nature. There are existing trees here as part of
the Wastewater Treatment Plant's property. There's the road for the ditch rider,
the Nampa Meridian Irrigation District is on the Wastewater Treatment side. One
thing that Mr. Shawcraft has asked just verbally tonight in reviewing this plan,
they are currently showing all of these units here to be open. He has requested
that they at least be enclosed on the southern boundary here because of the
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construction activities that are going to take place at the treatment plant. His
concern is that there will be a lot of dust generated and the vehicles that are
parked in this area will be covered with dust and they won't be very happy. Staff
would support recommendation of this annexation and zoning and the conditional
use permit with the conditions outlined in our report. There also will be a
trunkline sewer - how big is that? I believe 3D-inch trunkline sewer that will be
extended from the treatment plant, and it will follow this 20-foot wide corridor all
the way to Ten Mile, and that will start us on the way for the no-name trunk
sewer.
Corrie: Anything else from staff?
Stiles: Do you have anything, Gary?
Smith: I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor. No. I don't have any other comments to make.
Corrie: Okay. Thank you. Okay. Developer. Okay, Becky, the Council has
indicated that the members of the council that we might deal with the public
hearing for both the request for the conditional use permit and also for the
annexation and rezone
Bowcutt: Yes, sir.
Corrie: -- at the same time.
Bowcutt: Yes, sir. That was my intent.
Corrie: Thank you.
Bowcutt: Becky Bowcutt, Briggs Engineering, 1800 West Overland, Boise. I'm
representing the applicant in this matter. As Shari indicated, this adjoins the
Wastewater Treatment facility. The Wastewater Treatment facility is also zoned
I-L, and that's where this property is contiguous with the city limits at this time.
Water is available in Ustick and Ten Mile intersection. It will be extended to the
north with the project located on the northeast corner of Ten Mile and Ustick. We
have contacted your water department and have received some analysis of what
the flow rates are out there. They tell us they're 3,338 GPM at 20 PSI because
that's one of the concerns with these types of facilities because you do, under the
Uniform Building Code, are required to have firewalls at certain distances based
on the amount of fire flow available. The property's about 13.79 acres, and
based on the location, this is probably the best use that one can think of
concerning what we have next door. This project - not that it's bad.
Corrie: It's got to go somewhere.
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Bowcutt: We wouldnJt want to put anything in there that would conflict, let me put
it that way, with the adjoining use next door. The I-L zone, we chose that zone
because your staff indicated that's one of the few zones that does allow for mini-
storage facilities. The zone does in its purpose statement encourage clean,
quiet, free of hazardous or objectionable elements which this particular project
would be. These projects don't generate a lot of traffic. The traffic they do
generate is not associated with peak hours. We've got about 164,904 square
feet of mini-storage. The units would range in height; about the maximum would
be 14 - around 16 feet, I think it is. There would be one single-family dwelling
which would also serve as the office. If you look at this site plan here, the office
would be located right there at the entrance roadway. The gate would be inset
right here at this island, so we would have adequate room for stacking which is
one of the concerns that Ada County Highway District always has when youJre
doing this type of facility with a gate. They're typically a coded pad so each
person would have an individual code to enter the facility. There will be parking
provided, handicap parking. We have allocated 20 feet of landscaping outside of
the right-of-way as staff requested, and we have landscaping, I believe, six, six
and a half feet along the northern boundary. We had one gentleman at the P &
Z, his only concern, he owns this property here, was that these trees would be
left in tact because I guess they do kind of straddle the property line. I have
talked to my clients about that, and they stated that they didnJt have any intent to
remove those four existing trees; however, when that trunkline, the sewer
trunkline is extended down along that northern boundary, sometimes we find,
due to the excavation, that the trees will die. Not saying that's going to happen,
but that is a possibility. Obviously, if that were the case, the tree would then
have to be removed and we'd have to replace it with a new tree. Based on staff's
comments, there were only a couple of items that we were not in agreement with.
All the others we concurred. General requirements, Item 1, your ordinance does
require that you pipe any irrigation facility. We do adjoin the Creason Lateral. It
runs all along the southern boundary and separates this between the Treatment
Facility. Based on the fact that this is a mini-storage facility, we don't have the
issue of ditch safety. It's back behind the buildings. To answer staff's question,
the rear of these buildings joining the Treatment Plant, this will be enclosed.
Only the face of these is open to the interior, so we wouldn't have any conflict
there. What we'd like to do is request a waiver of piping the Creason Lateral.
We feel that it just doesn't make a lot of sense to do so where we don't have any
residential, adjoining uses. Secondly, we don't want to put any manicured
landscaping back here behind these buildings. We have allocated some areas
where we're going to retain some of our storm drainage. We have about 300,000
square feet of hard surface area. That generates a substantial amount of storm
drainage. So outside of the easement for the Creason, which is I believe 25 feet
from the center line of the ditch, we have some pocket areas where we're going
to retain some storm drainage back in that area. Planting something like a red
fescue or something that you don't need to maintain, you still have some
problems with it. Our preference would be to sterilize it and that's typically the
preference of the irrigation district because then they don't have any
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maintenance required. If we were to encroach into their easement with any type
of landscaping, even something like a red fescue or buffalo grass, we would have
to obtain a license agreement from them. ThereJs a substantial amount of trees
along here. You know, it is a ditch. It's going to look like a ditch. Beings that it's
back behind the building, kind of situated between these two parcels, I would
hope that we could get some understanding there. As Shari indicated, the 30-
inch sewer trunkline will be coming out of the treatment facility. This is the no-
name trunk. It'll come into the property here and run for 2,000 feet and exit out to
Ten Mile. For the record, our intent is to construct, design and construct that
facility this winter. We'll also be doing our design and construction of our
extension of water north on Ten Mile. The other condition that we disagreed with
was Condition No. 13. Staff indicated that the ordinance reads that for every
15,000 square feet of asphalt on a site that one will plant a tree. But it doesn't
differentiate between any uses. Obviously, when you have 300,000 square feet
of hard surface area, you would have approximately 200 trees based on that
calculation. Staff has stated that their preference would be a tree every 40 feet
all along Ten Mile and then running along the northern boundary, and that would
be from center of trunk to center of trunk. When you calculate that, that would
require 68 trees based on those two dimensions. We concur with that. We do
agree. So we would like No. 13, the reference to 15,000 square feet deleted
because it just doesn't make any sense in this type of facility. I don't know where
youJd put the trees. You just have trees on top of trees. We've agreed to
detailed landscaping plan for what we show. We've also agreed to a
development agreement. We understand that this property is being approved for
a mini-storage facility only. We are not opposed to that being referenced in the
development agreement for this rezone to an I-L. Do you have any questions?
Corrie: Mr. Bentley.
Bentley: Becky, you're going to make your new resident aware of where heJs
living? It is the sewer plant behind them.
Bowcutt: Yes, sir. He will maintain and take care of the facility. You need
someone there, but-
Bentley: What? The sewer plant?
Bowcutt: Yes. Oh - no. Not by the sewer plant. Yes.
Bentley: Gary'd like that (inaudible).
Rountree: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Rountree.
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Rountree: Becky, what's the distance between the buildings on the north and the
property line with the treeline and my concern is if that's where the trunklineJs
going to go, is there sufficient easement in there for repair and maintenance? It's
a little tight.
Bowcutt: This dimension here is six and a half feet, and then in addition to that is
23.5.
Rountree: Okay. So that'd be in the 23 feet?
Bowcutt: So it'd be about 30 feet from the center of those trees, approximately,
back to the edge of the building.
Rountree: Thank you.
Anderson: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Anderson.
Anderson: Becky, that Creason Lateral that runs along there -
Bowcutt: Yes.
Anderson: You had indicated that there was a possibility that youJd like to
sterilize that. I guess I'd like to maybe see that as a condition if there's not
landscaping done simply because I'm assuming there's probably no access to
that, and it would just become a weed hazard if you didnJt do sterilization or
something back there.
Bowcutt: Yes, sir. We would want to sterilize it because the ditch companies like
to come through and burn them periodically, and that wouldn't be a good thing.
So, yes, sir. We are not opposed to that being a condition of approval.
Corrie: Okay. Any other questions?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Okay. Thank you. Anyone else who would like to issue testimony? The
public hearing is open on 13 and 14, both the annexation and rezone and
request for conditional use permit. Okay. If there's no other testimony, I will
entertain a motion to close the public hearing on Items 13 and 14.
Bird: So moved.
Bentley: Second.
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Corrie: Motion made and seconded to close the public hearing on Item 13 and
14. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor of the motion say
aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Corrie: Discussion, decision or motions. We (inaudible) take the annexation and
rezone first.
Bird: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move that we have the legal department draw up the Findings of Facts
and Conclusions of Law and Decision of Order in favor of the request for
annexation and rezone for Ten Mile Mini Storage by Ed Bews west of Ten Mile,
north of Ustick Road.
Anderson: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to have the attorney draw up the Findings of
Facts and Conclusions of Law and Ordinance for the favor of the annexation and
rezone for the Ten Mile Mini Storage by Ed Bews. Any further discussion?
Bird: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: That includes the development agreement and the conditions as was
stated by staff and by the applicant.
Corrie: Okay. (inaudible) second.
Anderson: Yes.
Corrie: Okay. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor of the
motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Corrie: Okay. Motion is carried for annexation and rezone. Item No. 14 which is
request for conditional use permit. Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move that we approve the request for the conditional use permit for mini
storage facility consisting of nine buildings and one single-family dwelling/office
by Ed Sews west of Ten Mile and north of Ustick Road and for the legal
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department to draw up Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law and Decision of
Order.
Bentley: Development agreement?
Bird: And development agreement. This is a conditional use. Development
agreement was on the other. I'm done.
Bentley: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to have the attorney draw up the Findings of
Facts and Conclusions of Law on the request for the approval for conditional use
permit and the Decision of Order. Any further discussion?
Anderson: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Anderson.
Anderson: I just wanted to make sure and see if we could include the condition
in there of the sterilization and then the other changes that we talked about on
the waiver of tiling of Creason Lateral.
Bird: My conditions meant what the developer and staff agreed to at the public
testimony and Planning which that was stated wrong. It was part of the
conditions.
Corrie: Sterilization-
Bird: Sterilization and the non-tiling of the Creason and the planting of the trees
was changed from the 200 to the -
Corrie: Okay. Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Will be interesting to see what the record reflects. I think our intent is
there.
Corrie: Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor of the motion
say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Corrie: Motion carried. Mr. Gigray, if you'd get that all in there, we'd appreciate
it.
ITEM 15.
PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT FOR A 96 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX (PROPOSED
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COBBLESTONE VILLAGE) BY STAMAS CORPORATION/IONIC
ENTERPRISE, INC.-SOUTHWEST CORNER OF LOCUST
GROVE & FRANKLIN:
Corrie: Okay. We've got two public hearings yet. How many is here for the
public hearing on No. 15, request for conditional use permit for 96-unit apartment
complex at Cobblestone Village? Okay. And how many are here for the public
hearing, request for St. Luke's? Okay. Why don't we move to table the public
hearing on No. 15 until the next meeting?
Rountree: Mr. Mayor, I move that we continue the public hearing on Item 15 until
our next regularly scheduled meeting, November 3rd.
Corrie: Okay. Do I hear a second?
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Okay. Motion made to continue the public hearing on Item No. 15 until
the 3rd of November. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor of
the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Corrie: Okay. Motion's carried. That will be a continued public hearing on No.
15 for November 3rd.
ITEM 16.
PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT FOR PHASE 3 OF ST. LUKE'S MERIDIAN MEDICAL
CENTER -- BY ST. LUKE'S REGIONAL MEDICAL CENTER AT
520 S. EAGLE ROAD:
Corrie: Therefore, I'll open No. 16, the public hearing: Request for conditional
use permit for Phase III of St. Luke's Meridian Medical Center by St. LukeJs
Regional Medical Center at 520 South Eagle Road. At this time I'll open the
public hearing on No. 16 and invite staff comments first.
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, we have nothing to add to our comments that
have been presented. The major issue seems to remain the public road issue.
The residents in Montvue Subdivision are concerned about their inability to gain
access to Eagle Road, and I don't believe I see Mr. Sale in the audience or
anyone else from Ada County Highway District. We did receive a letter from him
today unsigned. Other than that, staff has nothing to add.
Corrie: All right. Since this is a public hearing, let's hear first from the St. Luke's
Regional Medical Center representatives.
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Bodnar: Thank you, Mr. Mayor and City Councilmen. My name is Bill Bodnar,
B-O-D-N-A-R representing St. LukeJs at 190 East Bannock in Boise. I'm a Vice
President there. We are very pleased and excited to be before you tonight, to
say the least, to present and review this proposal for St. Luke's planned new
hospital to serve Meridian and the surrounding communities. I'd like to identify
for you some of the details about that new hospital very briefly. On the chart
before you, you see essentially the six-story new facility outlined by the colored
blocks and the existing facilities to the west represented by the rendering here
and the connection at ground level. This new hospital would provide on the
ground level floor, 24-hour emergency department services, something that
certainly would provide much greater and needed access for residents of
Meridian as well as Eagle, Kuna and other surrounding areas. On the second
floor of the hospital would be the surgery department and the cardiac
catheterization labs so that patients with heart attacks and other serious cardiac
needs would be able to get here in this hospital through this emergency
department. It does not include open-heart surgery. That's only done at our
downtown hospital and would not be appropriate to have it done out here;
however, it does include cardiac catheterization. On the third floor would be the
obstetrics unit, the nursery, the labor and delivery areas, and we've sized that to
accommodate up to 2,000 births, approximately. On the fourth floor would be the
medical/surgical floor which you and I know is kind of the normal in-patient areas
in a hospital. The in-patient beds. We would have (inaudible) the fifth and sixth
floors of the facility so that we could add additional beds within the shell that we
would create at this point in time in the future. The initial project calls for us to
complete and occupy 62 in-patient beds. This tower, when fully finished, on the
fifth and sixth floors would include 146 in-patient beds which to give you
perspective, would be roughly the size of Mercy Medical Center. Share with you
the conceptual computerized renderings of the facility, something which we
continue to work on. They are still conceptual renderings. We continue to tweek
these; however, shown here the elevations looking - let's see, this would be
looking to the north, northwest. With the existing facility and the new tower here,
this view would be looking from the northeast basically the emergency entrance
and patient discharge areas here. This would be a view from the east, again
showing similarly the emergency and patient discharge entry as well as the drive-
under canopy for patient and visitor receiving. This project is designed to meet
an urgent community need for in-patient beds. I donJt have to tell you about how
much growth there's been in this community, but you probably would be
surprised to know that St. LukeJs in this past year, and all of the work that we've
done on our downtown site, the number of in-patient beds in this community is
growing to become a critical shortage, and so this is certainly what this is
designed to address. The approval process has been very thorough. We
announced this project actually one year ago, met with the neighbors earlier this
summer. That was actually on July 22nd, and there was no oppositiion to the
project. A lot of good questions from them, and we certainly strive to meet their
questions, and then kicked off with the first public hearing with the ACHD on July
28th. Throughout that process, there have been essentially no objections to the
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hospital project itself; however, as staff indicated, there have been a number of
concerns expressed for the neighbors relative to the traffic issues and perhaps
even more specifically, their access for - through a public road through our site
to Eagle Road. Montvue Subdivision, however, is seeking this public access for
an undefined commercial development. We have offered them and continue to
offer them, I will share with you again that offer, that we have continued to make
to those residents for a private lane residential easement. One that would be
deeded and recorded and they would have that right as a resident. As a resident
it would not be transferable to a commercial right, but it would be a - certainly
address the needs of those residents. We are seeking timely approval for this
process so we can get things going. We certainly are aware and appreciate the
process through ACHD which recommended that the infrastructure does exist to
support this project. Also would like to note that Montvue has no development
plan or proposal or concept before this Council. You will hear a lot about their
needs in order to some day comply with the Comprehensive Plan and develop
into a residential - I'm sorry, a commercial area; however, they've never
presented such plans. So as a result, we find all of the requirements of the
Planning and Zoning Commission acceptable but do ask that you not impose
requirement 1-1.21 which I will refer during the next few minutes as the road
requirement. I think it's probably where most of the public testimony will
probably fall. There are four basic reasons that we'd ask you to not consider
imposing requirement 1.21, the road requirement: consistency, campus traffic
concerns that we have that we feel are legitimate and overriding, the unknown
use that Montvue may spill onto this medical campus of ours, and the fact that
we believe other options exist. Very quickly, consistency. 1994 the planning
process for Meridian's campus, the public approval process envisioned a quiet
medical campus with a ring-loop road which I'd like to, if I may, I'll put up on the
board over here. The ring-loop road certainly has been designed to create a
pedestrian-friendly campus and circulation patterns in 1994. In 1996, there was
an application from Ed Bews for the development of his land to the east of our
project, and this City Council denied that request for a public road through our
site and, again, in terms of consistency in 1996, the City Council endorsed and
the continued maintenance of our quiet medical campus and ring road. This
project's plans are based on continuing the sanctity of that private loop road.
The pedestrian-friendly medical campus. Again, we believe a public road,
therefore, should not be required and would create hardhsips for us. Those
hardships, which I enumerated, too, is the campus - traffic concerns we have.
First off, following many hours and hundreds of pages of testimony with ACHD,
they recognized that a public road should not be required of St. Luke's. We ask
that you accept their recommendations. The number two - they recognized all
the problems with a potential ring road and those problems just begin to multiply
by requiring a public road of St. Luke's. A public road coming through our site
and connecting to the Montvue Subdivision will virtually guarantee more traffic
and more congestion at the lighted intersection. Something that we do not feel
would be beneficial to patient care. It would create traffic stacking problems,
campus circulation problems and patient visitor safety and way-finding problems.
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The current roadway, a private loop road in that entrance off Eagle Road was not
constructed to ACHDJs standards. Its width is not according to standards, its-
the intersection grade-level change as we exit our site and go down to Eagle
Road was not constructed to ACHD standards because it was accepted and
always has been accepted as a private road. To bring it up to speed would cost,
it's been estimated in millions of dollars plus we would have the disruption,
construction disruption and tearing up of that entrance to our campus to
accommodate that. Current and future campus plan is consistent with - is
inconsistent with Meridian's and ACHDJs setback plans for a public road. If this
were to become a public road in any part, all of a sudden all the rest of our
campus plan, the vegetation, the wear of the parking occurs, the wear of the
landscaping and curbing and just the entire circulation on our campus, the
sidewalks all become subject to new setback requirements relative to a public
road and would be very problematic for us. It, obviously, threatens to destroy our
quiet medical campus. Number three, the unknown use of Montvue. ThereJs no
question that there are developments which would create massive traffic
problems on our site and the pedestrian patient safety on our campus would be
compromised and could be compromised by whatever unknown use Montvue's
asking you - will be asking you tonight probably to approve in terms of a public
road through our site. This project of ours does not create significant traffic or
reasons for such a taking of private land for this unknown use. Number three,
Planning and ZoningJs requirements to create a public road through our site
creates - could create the start of an eventual cut-through as our property to our
east is developed, and basically St. LukeJs campus becomes a cut-through to
Franklin Road. Again, that is something that I don't think should be entertained,
we donJt believe, at the expense of our patients and visitors. Last, there are
other options that exist. St. Luke's, during the ACHD process, reviewed and
offered the deeded residential access, I mentioned, I'd like to share with you if I
may, a copy of our proposal. This proposal would provide the residents with the
access they need to safely get in and out of their intersection, use our road for
low-volume residential-type uses. We feel that that's consistent and would not
be a problem to our campus. That's why we met with ACHD and shared with
them this proposal, and they considered all of the pros and cons. ACHD
recommended that St. Luke's and the neighbors work together to provide
residential access to the campus, and I know you have a copy of the ACHD's
recommendations, but I would like to submit a highlighted, one-page summary
which highlights that it's - that they urge that we should work with the residents.
They never urged that we should work with an unknown commercial
development to create a public road. The - we believe there may be other
options for future commercial development which, certainly, commercial
developers have the responsibility to (inaudible) as they come before you to
develop those options as well. But those other options include the possibility that
rather than thinking only about Eagle Road that access to Franklin Road be
considered and studied and that perhaps the Touchmark Development could
develop in their application options for those neighbors. Or we could actually
look at the actual ACHD recommendation being a requirement of this project to
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supplant 1.21, and, certainly, you have that before you which would be a
recommendation. This hospital project in summary does not create a need for a
commercial public road running through our site. A public drive and public road
dedication should not be required of us.- We certainly appreciate your interest.
We appreciate your support and encouragement to build a hospital in this
community. As soon as would be appropriate, the time is now, and we
appreciate your interest and look forward to your approval if that's appropriate.
I'll stand for any questions or would defer - it's your pleasure.
Corrie: Council, any questions of -
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Thank you. Okay. We'll do the same thing on this one as we did the
previous one. We'll start with those who approve or in favor of this conditional
use permit. First, limit to three minutes, please. Okay. I will switch around and
those who disapprove step up and give you name, spell your last name and limit
your comments - try to limit it to three minutes if you can. I'll give you a sign like
that, and you have a minute to wrap it up.
Rife: Gentlemen, my name is Patricia Rife. I've been a resident of Montvue
Drive for over 18 years. I appreciate your hearing what I have to say now. The
gentleman from St. Luke's very elloquently spoke about the needs of St. Luke's
Hospital, the safety of the patients, safety of the visitors. You can turn that
around and apply the same thing to the people who live on Montvue Drive. We
have safety needs. We have circulation needs. We have needs just like St.
Luke's does. They can get up and whine about how poorly done they have been,
make claims about how we're trying to destroy their project. We're not. The
hospital, I'm a registered nurse and have been for years, and I know how
important it is to have medical facilities nearby for the residents. It's a wonderful
thing this happened in our community. But along with it, some not-sa-wonderful
things have happened to us as residents of Montvue Drive. It's been
characterized that we are greedy and avoricious because we want to see the
neighborhood attain its fullest and highest use. The City of Meridian in its original
plan have stated that this will probably be commercial; it's designated as such.
Maybe not right now, but maybe next year or the following year. It isn't really
avoricious or greedy of us to have those expectations that we should receive the
highest and best for what we've worked and sacrificed for so long. Also, it isn't
right for St. Luke's to be greedy and avoricious and join together with another
commercial enterprise to endeavor to block us, land-lock us, so that they are the
only potential future users of the land. I donJt know if they expect that we're
going to put a nudist colony there to entertain the patients on their seventh floor
building? Our intents are not - we only want what's sauce for the goose should
be sauce for the gander. If they can be avoricious and greedy and waiting to
pounce upon our land at retail prices, bargain-basement prices because no one
else can buy it. That's what they're after. That's not right. I'm a widow. That-
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my house is alii have. He gave you a piece of paper showing their generous,
their very, very generous offer to put in a little country lane. By the way, we were
at one time a very beautiful secluded country estate. Their nuscance came to us.
So there - in all their great, magnificent generosity have offered to build a road
over my land for which I will not be compensated. I will lose a great part of and
my land is not available to be given away. It's alii own in this world. So I hope
you will take this into consideration that we do need another way out. The land
will just be a gift from you to them if there is not some other way than a right way
in and a right way out, that's what's planned for our entry. We need an
alternative. Their hospital has not only, you know, I'm talking about endangering
the people who occupy their grounds, who work there. One morning I looked out
from my beautiful backyard, and here was a road nine feet above my houseline.
From ground level, they built it up nine feet. I had no idea this was going to
happen. They're going to plant trees and put fences in and berms and plant
them so we'd be safe. They removed the fences that were there that protected
us. We've had a daylight burglar who came up the ditch through my backyard.
Fortunately, my doors were locked and I was home that day. A neighbor came
home and this man was in her kitchen. Fortunately, a neighbor saw him come in.
He'd come up from where they'd taken down the fences, left us absolutely like
sitting ducks. She knocked on the window and he came to the door and said,
"May I help you?" This guy was a man who had just escaped from prison who
stole a car, ran it through the house in the subdivision on the east end of the
irrigation area, and he fled to our area. These are the kinds of things that have
been happening as a result of the project by St. Luke's. So we suffered right
along with - and none of us really needs to do this. We do need a safe way in
and out for whatever purpose. I hope you will really think this over because it's
something that we're going to need for our survival, and it's not out of greed.
Thank you very much for hearing me.
Corrie: Thank you.
McCreedy: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, my name is John McCreedy.
I'm an attorney. My business address is 1275 Shoreline Lane. I represent the
majority of the Montvue residents and have for the past several months on this
issue throughout our proceedings and in front of the Ada County Highway District
and the Planning and Zoning Commission. It's been a moderately long
proceeding, and I would like to try to shorten it up as much as I can tonight, but I
would request your indulgence. If I could have the Montvue residents stand just
very briefly so you know who they are, at least the ones that are here tonight. I
would request that I be allowed a little more than three minutes. I think that
myself and Ms. Rife will be the only ones providing comment on behalf so
hopefully in the long run it'll shorten your evening up. We do have Pat Dobie
here who has done some work, traffic issues related to the issue before you. I
would hope that I could complete in approximately ten minutes if that would be
acceptable.
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Corrie: (inaudible) three others testifying?
McCreedy: There will be Mr. Dolby who will provide some very brief comments.
Corrie: Our goal tonight is to convince you that the requests the residents have
made is reasonable. It's lawful, it's reasonable and it's consistent with the plans
that you currently have in place. It is not extraordinary. It is not so lavish or so
beyond the call of reason as to shock anyone. If I could have staff put back up
the vicinity map, if you might. One more back showing the Montvue property,
and I'll continue while weJre trying to get that. I want to state specifically what it
is the residents are asking for. I'm assuming you had an opportunity to review
the recommendation by the Planning and Zoning Commission. They
recommended that St. Luke's be required to dedicate 200 feet of right-of-way.
Not build a road. Not pay for the construction or road, but simply dedicate 200
feet of right-of-way in order to preserve future access to the Montvue
Subdivision. We're asking you to do tonight is to increase that amount to 400
feet. Again, not to require St. Luke's to spend money to upgrade that road, not
require the road to be built at this point, but to simply to preserve 400 feet of
public right-of-way for future access to the Montvue Subdivision. If I can
approach the map, the public road would end somewhere in the vicinity of the
alignment of what I hope is west Montvue Drive. I think I've accurately described
that. It would be along St. Luke's now private driveway, so it would end up going
tosmething like that. The way we ended up with the 200 feet instead of the 400
feet, I believe, was from testimony of Mr. Sale, and I think he wrote a letter to you
explaining to you how that was misconstrued or missupplied. ACHD standards,
as I understand it now, are, in fact, a full 400 feet in order to support the use that
the Montvue Subdivision has designated for in the Meridian Comprehensive Plan
which is mixed-planned use development. Now, the four comments made by St.
LukeJs representative, I'd like to just respond to those briefly and do so with a
little bit of history and I apologize for taking you back all the way to 1994, but I
think that's the place to start. I submitted to the Planning and Zoning -
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my compilation of the history and the studies on the traffic issues and the various
positions that ACHD has taken regarding the public road in the past. I give you
that volume of information simply because I want to show you that has
consistently planned to be a public road in that area. In fact, not just an entrance
of a public road of a mere 400 feet, but, in fact, an entire public road along S1.
Luke's northern boundary extending through its property to the property to the
east which is now proposed for development by Touchmark and then extending
north to Franklin Boulevard, Franklin Road, excuse me. A loop road. A loop
road similar to the loop road that is currently existing near the Home Depot in
Boise. That's the new exit from the freeway, you go around the mall, you take a
couple of right turns and you get to Home Depot, and that avoids traffic
congestion at the intersection of Emerald and Milwaukee. That's my layman
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synopsis of what ACHD has been planning for this area for quite some time. So I
take you back to 1994. The original ACH 0 approval of the S1. Luke's application.
In this application which is Exhibit 2 to the package I submitted, the traffic
numbers that were put forward at that time were a mere 420 estimated vehicle
trips per day. With the traffic volume on Eagle Road, 11 ,915. This is ACHD
Commission's Findings and Conclusions regarding St. Luke's first conditional use
permit application. What did ACHD write in a document that was sent to St.
Luke's? That staff anticipates future roadway connections to the east; in other
words, the very roadway connections we're talking about tonight. St. LukeJs was
advised of those as early as June 1994. Shortly after that, ACHD and the City of
Meridian received an application from Mr. Bews whose application was here
earlier, he is, I believe, the owner or a former owner of the Touchmark property,
the property to the east and to the northeast of the St. Luke's property. In 1995
in March, ACHD wrote the following regarding Mr. Sews' application: Staff
recommends that two stub streets be provided to the undeveloped land to the
east and two stub streets provided to the west; one to connect with the future
east-west public road on the north end of S1. Luke's Hospital parcel. Again, I was
there during much of the controversy on the Ed Bews application, and I know the
St. Luke's representatives were aware of Findings and Conclusions by ACHD
recommending a public road, again, on the northern boundary of their property.
In 1995, ACHD commissioned a study by CH2M Hill and that study concluded
that St. Luke's development could generate as many as 25,720 vehicle trips per
day. That study's been provided to you as part of the record before the
Commission. After ACHD looked at the study that was performed by CH2M Hill,
it made some final recommendations regarding the Sews development
application, and I've again provided those to you. These are Exhibit 5. What
ACHD concluded on the Sews application was when a specific traffic impact
study warrants a condition that Sews be required to acquire right-of-way for and
construct a public road from the project site to Eagle Road. From the Sews
parcel to the east through St. Luke's property to Eagle Road. Again, a public
road. In 1997, ACHD commissioned MK Centennial to do what's called the
Eagle Road Access Control Study. This is perhaps the, what I would consider to
be the most critical document to what we're trying to present as part of this
application. The Eagle Access Control Study, and Mr. Dobie can explain this
much better than I can, but in laymanJs terms, it recommends shutting down
access to Eagle Road in order to increase the capacity on that road; to stop the
interruption of the flow of traffic. Access to Eagle Road is to be shut down when
Eagle Road exceeds its acceptable level of service according to ACHD
standards. I don't profess to understand how they figure all that out, but that's
what the study recommends. I'll read from Page 11 of this study: When Eagle
Road begins to break down as a suburban arterial, implementation of the Level
4-5 access control plan should begin. All access within a continuous half-mile
segment would lose direct access to Eagle Road when the LOS, level of service
is unacceptable according to the ACM and current ACHD policy. Alternative
access must be provided to the properties prior to the elimination of access to
Eagle Road. Again, these are the studies that have been generated and used by
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the agencies and the traffic experts over the past three to four years. So the
question now becomes are we at the appropriate time? Is it reasonable to begin
to plan for as the planning agency, as the governing body responsible under the
local land use planning act is now the time to exercise some authority to plan for
future access for the Montview Subdivision. Our answer is undoubtedly yes. In
January of 1994, ACHD made a recommendation to the City Council on the
McDonalds, Chevron, Idaho Power Credit Union application. I believe some of
you might be familiar with that one. It did have some controversy. ACHD
imposed a requirement that a new public road be dedicated as part of that
requirement because of increased traffic and safety problems. I'll read from
Page 3 of ACHD's Findings: Because of these safety problems, ITD staff and
ACHD staff have recommended that a new public street be constructed
connecting to Eagle Road at this site's northern boundary. ACHD also wrote in
that same set of Findings and Conclusions that maintaining the existing signal
location, the St. Luke's signalized location on Eagle Road allows the future
potential for signalized access from the Montvue Subdivision to Eagle Road via
St. Luke's driveway. Again, it seems to have been the consistent plan that this
the way the Montvue residents are going to get out onto Eagle Road is through
St. Luke's driveway, and that driveway must be made public at some time.
Again, the question becomes one of timing. Is Eagle Road beyond capacity? In
- On July 28 of 1999, ACHD sent another set of recommended Findings and
Conclusions to this City Council. This is on the medical office building at Gentry
Way, Allen Street and Eagle Road. It's across the street, across Eagle Road.
I'm not sure if this application has made it to the City Council yet or not. I know
that it was in front of the Planning and Zoning Commission about the same time
that we were debating the St. LukeJs application. I provided that this is Exhibit 9
in the package I provided. ACHD writes it Page 4: Eagle Road will not be
adequate to accommodate the additional traffic generated by this proposed
development. There are approximately 31,970 existing vehicle trips per day on
Eagle Road. With this development and other proposed developments within the
vicinity of the site, Eagle Road will have approximately 47,235 vehicle trips per
day. This will exceed the level of service F. In July of 1999, Eagle Road was
beyond capacity. I'll have provided you with another development application in
that same set of exhibits, another medical office building where ACHD made the
same conclusion, level of service F. I provided you with Mr. Dobie's study where
he concludes it's level of service F particularly for the existing Montvue access.
The only access they have to Eagle Road and particularly during rush hour
traffic. My point is it has always consistently been envisioned by the traffic
experts that St. LukeJs driveway would be designated public. It is envisioned
particularly by that 1997 MK Centennial study that the Montvue residents would
gain access through St. Luke's public - through St. Luke's driveway at that time
private. One of the questions is, is it legal to impose the requirement. I will
submit to you having been present at the ACHD Commission hearings that the
only reason why ACHD didn't impose the public road requirement, or perhaps the
most dominent reason is the better way to say it, is because they didn't feel that
they had legal authority to do so. The Planning and Zoning Commission was
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advised by Mr. Rutherford, who was serving as legal counsel, that it did have the
legal authority to do so in this case. He writes, "It would be legal and legitimate
to require St. Luke's to do as Mr. Siddoway's recommended or, quite frankly, to
dedicate it and approve it," and improve it, I think, was what he meant.
Transcript is not clear there. What Mr. Siddoway, the planning staff, had
recommended was imposition of a public roadway requirement all across Eagle -
St. Luke's northern boundary. Not just the 200 or the 400, but the entire stretch.
Mr. Rutherford saw as legal at that time. So our position is that what we're
asking for tonight is consistent with the Meridian Comprehensive Plan. It's
consistent with your authority under the zoning ordinance to address these traffic
issues. It's consistent with your responsibility to plan for the future because
ultimately, this residential property is going to go commercial in some fashion or
another. I want to address a couple of comments on the offer St. Luke's made.
It has -
Corrie: One minute. You've had 15 already.
McCreedy: Okay. It has a residential restriction attached to it. That doesn't
solve the problem for the future. In fact, it gives St. Luke's, in my opinion exactly
what it needs, and that is the ability to constrictly control public access to the
Montvue Subdivision. The access they have right now is functionally, well, not
functional. It doesnJt work. It's unsafe. That comes from Mr. Dobie's study as
well as Findings ACHD made in its own report. Now, one of the concerns that S1.
LukeJs has is the unknown potentially devastating development that might
happen in the Montvue Subdivision. That's what this process is all about. If the
Montvue residents sell to a commercial developer and he wants to put in, you
know, a mega-super super shopping store, that's absolutely inconsistent. Both
traffic and compatibilitywise with St. Luke's, then they get to come down here and
object to it and if you find it inconsistent, it's denied and we go back. Hopefully
there'll be more reason and reasonableness applied to it and the use will be
similar and compatible to St. LukeJs. That shouldnJt mean that at this point we
don't plan for the future and preserve that residential access. I know I've gone
over my allotted time already, and I do appreciate your patience. One of the
things that I wanted to emphasize in my closing was that the residents were very
pleased with what happened at the Planning and Zoning Commission and
recommendation that came out of there. They relied, I think, quite heavily on Mr.
Sale's testimony that the 200-foot requirement was enough. It wasn't until after
that hearing that they realized from Mr. Sale - that I personally realized from
talking with him that the recommended distance is 400. That's the letter that he
wrote to you today in that regard. Mr. Sale testified at the Planning and Zoning
Commission hearing regarding his understanding of why the ACHD Commission
didnJt impose this requirement. Here's his comments, this is page 34 of the
minutes. "Highway District's feeling is that while we firmly believe this should be
a public street at some point, we are not sure we have a full legal basis to require
it at this time based on the traffic that S1. Luke's has generated." That's where
we relied on Mr. Rutherford's testimony that, in fact, City does have the authority
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and the legal basis to do that. We would request one other modification and that
is that a conditional use permit be required if they, in fact, do want to construct
the heliport in the area. I put that in a letter I wrote to you today which I hope you
had an opportunity to review. I know this is a lot of information and a lot of
volume. I would certainly stand for any questions.
Corrie: I think (inaudible) any questions at this point.
Rountree: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Explain to me this 200, 400-foot dedication for future - where is it?
Who owns it?
McCreedy: Who owns the 200 feet?
Rountree: Or the 400 feet or whatever.
McCreedy: Could we put the S1. LukeJs site-specific map back up? What the
residents have consistently asked for is that they be provided that a requirement
be - a condition be imposed on St. Luke's to require them to dedicate, not at this
time construct the public road, but dedicate public right-of-way so that when their
access is shut down, they have a way to get out. In addition, they would like the
public access to support future commercial uses (inaudible) property under the
Meridian Comprehensive Plan. That is what the Meridian Comprehensive Plan
envisions.
Rountree: I didn't ask that. Where is the two to 400 feet?
McCreedy: So it would be along St. LukeJs existing private driveway extending
400 feet from the eastern most right-of-way of Eagle Road; the width north-south
would extend from, as the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended, from
St. Luke's northern property line one foot south of the existing curb cut of their
private driveway. The difference between 200 and 400, I think, is tied to Mr.
Sale's testimony to the Commission, but that's the location. Have I answered the
question?
Rountree: So the 200 or 400 feet is a distance from Eagle Road into the current
St. Luke's property.
McCreedy: Right. Two hundred feet from the eastern most right-of-way of Eagle
Road into the property or, as we're requesting tonight, 400 feet in.
Corrie: Any other questions?
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Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Okay. I have no questions from Council. Thank you, John.
McCreedy: Thank you for your consideration.
Griffiths: I'm Trisha Griffiths, I live at 3295 North Montvue. Trisha Griffiths.
Corrie: Spell your last name, please.
Griffiths: G-R-I-F-F-I- T -H-S.
Corrie: Thank you.
Griffiths: If you wanted to know exactly where it's at, I can kind of point it out
from what we figured.
Corrie: Use this if you like. Just press the button and it's on that end.
Griffiths: (inaudible)
Corrie: Just don't look at it and you'll be all right.
Griffiths: From what we calculate, we - I think 200 feet is about right there. Then
about 400 is about right there from our residence. I have a map here. I don't
know if you could tell a little bit better on here. I could pass it around to you.
Rountree: My question has been answered. Thank you.
Griffiths: Also, on the other map are - Montvue Drive does not go straight. It
kind of curves down. Another thing I just wanted to mention is that I was relying
on ACHDJs recommendation of 200 feet. I could tell you if a square goes into a
circle, but I can't tell you if - I can't judge 200 feet is until I go out there and kind
of measure myself and see. If someone said it's a football field then I could kind
of get an estimate. It's - I think we're saying 200's about right there, and we
calculated about right there at the curb is what we though ACHD was talking
about. That's what I thought would be 200 feet from there. I was mistaken, and
like I said, I donJt know how to calculate feet and yards and stuff without
someone really kind of giving me a distance.
Anderson: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Anderson.
Anderson: So who would be giving up the right-of-way to put an access road into
the subdivision? The property owner on the corner there?
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Griffiths: Yeah. What we - at first they were talking about between these two,
but to really align it would be the property owner right here. What Larry Sale was
saying, this road kind of curves right here, and I thought if what they were talking
about, the frontage goes down and then comes over and connects like that.
Anderson: So weJre talking about a frontage road or just an access road?
Griffiths: Well, weJre talking about - we want an access road. He was talking
about this - he thought would be the most convenient place to have it.
Anderson: Thank you.
Corrie: Thank you.
Griffiths: Uh-huh.
Corrie: Okay. Going to pretty well limit you a little bit here. He's - had 20
minutes or 15 minutes.
Dobie: I can talk really fast. Mr. Mayor, Council members, my name is Pat
Dobie. I'm a traffic engineer, and I was engaged by the Montvue Homeowners
Association to prepare a study of the impacts of the St. Luke's project. Just-
when the five-lane construction of Eagle Road was completed a few years ago,
there was a significant increase in traffic on Eagle Road, significant increase.
When you add the St. Luke's traffic to that mix, it will overwhelm the capacity of
that road system to accommodate everything. The condition that exists at Pine
and Ten Mile, you know, for a couple of 15-minute periods, right now, during
school periods will exist on that section of Eagle Road for 12 to 14 hours a day.
ThatJs the level of congestion that you can anticipate. The agency responds to
that will be to go in and increase the capacity by closing driveways. One of the
driveways that will be closed is the driveway going into the Montvue Subdivision.
Now, if the signal hadn't been constructed at St. Luke's, they could have moved
their access down to that location. The signal was constructed at St. LukeJs, and
because of ACHD offset criteria from that signalized intersection, they had no
alternative to gain access to Eagle Road other than to take access through the
St. LukeJs signal. That driveway going into their campus is basically a mid-
section line collector. It's the same as Pine Street is. ACHD developed mid-
section collectors as (inaudible) access to provide public roads, to provide
access - the center of the section and to provide access to those properties
adjoining it. Allowing a road like that which has significant public benefit. To be
a private road creates some public policy issues. It puts the control of land use, it
puts implementation of the Comprehensive Plan, it puts a lot of other things at
risk. It would be a bad idea, in my opinion, to allow that to continue as a private
road. The ACHD - the single-use campus plan was originally approved without
the benefit of any comprehensive traffic study. Every subsequent study that has
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been done has recommended that be dedicated as public road and connected on
through to Franklin. Some of my comments.
Corrie: Thank you. Anyone else that has something different to say?
Fuss: Yes, sir. Mr. Mayor, Councilmen, my name is Jeff Fuss, F-U-S-S, and I
live in the Montvue Subdivision. If I hit three minutes, raise my hand and I'll go
sit down because you guys - it's late and I know we all want to get out of here.
We've heard a lot of talk about private versus public and future use by the
Montvue Subdivision residents and why we should be talking about that at this
time. One of the problems - the main problem that we've seen over the last
couple years, and I've only lived in there two years is resale of our homes. We
had one resident of Montvue that was transferred out of state. They had their
house on the market. They didnJt get any offers. Any legitimate offers. We've
had another resident who put their house on the market. Again, pulled it back off
the market because they couldnJt receive any offers. WeJve - our real estate
appraisals, two years ago when I moved in, were well above what the tax
assessed value was. The tax assessed values have not moved very significantly
in the last two years, yet the real estate appraisals that we're getting are coming
in well below that. The problem is to bring other people in for residential use,
weJre having a real hard problem doing that. You're talking about properties that
are an acre, most of them are an acre or more, are horse properties. Small one-
to two-acre family homes with room for horses, and we have several people that
have horses. Now, this - that kind of a property is in high demand in this area.
As you heard from St. LukeJs, we're in a high-growth area. So why are we
having a problem selling our houses? So that's why we're talking about the
possibility of future commercial development because we see that at this point is
the only way out for us. We have some elderly residents in there that if
something happens and they're forced into some sort of a care situation or they
can't be in there anymore, they're not going to be able to sell their homes or
they're going to be selling their homes dirt cheap. Now, both of the commercial
developments that are on either side of us, both St. Luke's and T ouchmark,
theyJre aware of the real estate situation, and theyJve been watching it very
closely. I think that's kind of interesting when they talked about their closed-
campus and how that was more important than some of the other issues
involved. What weJre talking about is the families' financial future of all the
people who live in Montvue Subdivision. If I'm transferred out of here tomorrow
and I canJt sell my house and I'm forced into, as other residents have been,
forced into a situation where I'm having a management company come in and
take care of a rental situation, that's a losing proposition. So, I just wanted to put
that out there so you understand why we talk about future commercial use
because we don't see any way of selling our homes in the future as a residential.
So, that's alii had.
Corrie: Thank you. Anyone else? Different? Okay. St. Luke's, youJre up.
Finish.
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Bodnar: If we could go back to the campus slide. Thank you. ACHD's study -
heard Mr. Dobie's, Mr. McCreedy's and certainly is aware of all of the studies that
ACHD has commissioned and/or looked at over the years as well as lTD. They
studied this, they listened to the tesimony, they rejected their request because
ACHD, as they studied this issue and (inaudible) knew that they were going to
create more problems than would be solved with any requirement for a public
road through St. LukeJs site. The 200 or 400 feet, if I could just quickly illustrate.
Somewhere in there and somewhere in there because it's a very moving target
and has been throughout this process, is where this proposed public road and
taking of St. Luke's property would occur. The intersection is where ambulances
will be accessing the new 24-hour emergency department. I'm not a traffic
planner. I know probably not many of us ever want to be. At this late hour, it-
the people who have studied it for St. Luke's as we've been through this public
process and through the planning process since 1994 and again in 1996 studied
this campus circulation plan and believe and tell me that this would create
serious problems. We ask for your consideration of our proposal and our project
and consideration of not imposing Requirement 1.21 on us. We've offered an
alternate solution and ACHD in their Findings of Facts also offered an alternate
solution. Either which we will find acceptable. I will stand for any questions.
Corrie: Any questions? Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: St. Luke's have anything posed for that piece of private roadway that
you have now other than transportation? You're not going to put a building there
or a moat or a mountain or whatever? It's going to be a roadway.
Bodnar: That is intended to be part of our private loop road circulation pattern.
Certainly, we do have utilities and easements all along the northern common
property line that we share with the Montvue area subdivision and significant
utilities, and that's where everything was placed when we planned the project
originally.
Rountree: Okay. Thank you.
Corrie: Any questions? Okay. Thank you. Okay. I would - Mr. Gigray.
Gigray: Mr. Mayor and members of the Council, just point of information. It
would be my recommendation if you are going to consider the possibility of
imposing the condition of the dedication of the road right-of-way that you might
consider continuing the public hearing and exercising your authority and of the
statute to require a specific report from the Ada County Highway District with
regards to their possition on the proposal. As I understand the request and the
condition of recommendation from the Planning and Zoning Commisison, it
recommends that there be a dedication of that, and since the Ada County
Highway District is (inaudible) Highway District and is the only one that would
have the legal authority to receive such a dedication, it would be under their
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jurisdiction and authority, although, they would have no duty to maintain or to
build a road. That would then pose a problematic issue with regards to continued
occupancy of the area which would be dedicated and how that would be
occupied and used in interim either by some license agreement or otherwise the
Ada County Highway District by St. Luke's and it seems that it would pose some
issues with regards to your findings relative to the effect the proposed conditional
use permit upon neighboring properties and its compatibility and also the issue
with regards to the transportation in the area affected by the proposed conditional
use permit. I think that there should be some very difinitive information available
to the Council from the jurisdiction who will have that responsibility. If you were
going to consider imposing such a condition in this matter, and it seems like the
record is a little scant on some of those points. Maybe I'm missing it, but once
you close the public hearing, then our ability to receive additional information of
record to support findings is then closed. I offer that observation for your
consideration.
Corrie: Okay. Does this Council want to look into that possibility with ACHD?
Have you decided what you - (inaudible).
Rountree: WeJllleave this letter dated October 19th, Mr. Mayor indicates what
ACHD Commission's action was.
Corrie: At this point, it looks like we have a motion to either continue this public
hearing for further evidence or close the public evidence and make a decision.
Rountree: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: I move we close the public hearing.
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Motion is made and seconded that we close the public hearing on Item
No. \ 16. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor of the motion
say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Corrie: Discussion, decision or motion. Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: We have been provided the ACHD Commission's decision not to
require dedication of public road. Their recommendation to continue some
voluntary cooperation on the part of St. Luke's and the subdivision be considered
but not required. They further go on and state they clrify their previous position
that the 200 feet was not sufficient, that they needed a 440 offset in order to
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accommodate an intersection with this access or to provide access to the light on
Eagle Road. We also heard some testimony that it's been ACHD's position all
along to provide public access. I think the statement was made that that's been
in their planning - may have provided that information - they have provided that
information on occasion to the City. The City has taken the position historically
from the get-go on this that it's been a public access - private access, excuse
me, and previous approvals of annexation, conditional use permits and the
development of this St. LukeJs complex have been made with that understanding.
I sympathize with the traffic problems on Eagle Road. I do not prescribe,
however (inaudible) all the problems (inaudible) St. Luke's. If in fact somebody
whether it's ACHD or ITD requires the closure of access to Montvue Subdivision,
it's been stated for the record and it's correct that an alternative must be
provided. That alternative must be provided at the cost of whomever the agency
is that takes that access away. It will be paid for through that process. I'm not
sure that's going to happen in the near future. Don't know what's going to
happen to Montvue in terms of whether it's going to be commercial or remain
residential. At some point in time in the future if the access is required and the
signal at Eagle Road at St. Luke's is the only solution, then the public entity that
requires that access has the ability to condemn and compensate to provide that
access. Montvue is going to have access some way or another. I'm not sure
given our previous decisions that we are in a position to exact that from St.
Luke's. I believe it probably could be construed a taking, and we may, if we did
it, have to compensate them for that, potentially. I'm not going to practice any
more law, Mr. Gigray. That's my position on this thing. I guess I'd say let's get
Findings and Facts and Conclusions of Law prepared and weJII - with an
encouragement St. Luke's to continue their effort with subdivision to
accommodate access for residential use. If that doesn't bear fruit, they can
continue on with the development of their site and plan. I would, however, like to
see, and I can't remember whether there were comments and recommendations
from staff as it relates to the heliport, but I think that was pointed out, and I think
that is an issue that needs to be addressed and coordinated. Any type of activity
such as that needs to be remote from any residential area.
Bird: Is that a motion?
Rountree: That's just my -
Corrie: (inaudible) Anybody else have any comments?
Bentley: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bentley.
Bentley: In my time of sitting here going through St. Luke's process, I never
recall the dedication of a road outside of a private drive. In fact, if my memory
serves me correct, there was talk against making it a public access. The heliport
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issue, I would agree with Charlie. I think it needs to be taken up in a separate
deal away from the residents, and I'd be in favor of pressing forward with this
issue.
Corrie: Other comments?
Anderson: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Anderson.
Anderson: I agree with a lot of comments by the two Council members. I, too,
think thereJs some other alternatives. We haven't seen any development plans
for the property to the east yet, and I think, as Councilman Rountree pointed out,
that if ACHD does close down the one entrance to Montvue, there would have to
be an alternative provided. At that point, then it would be their responsibility to
bring the road up to standards and provide a wider access. I think St. Luke's has
made a fairly generous offer that would ensure the safety of the residents and
give them a stoplight to be able to exit through their existing stoplight at present
times, and so I think I would lean in - not requiring the land - the 400-foot
easement.
Bird: Mr. Mayor. I also agree with him. I agree so much that if you want a
motion - I would strike the 1.21 completely on the 200-foot dedication. I agree
with Councilman Bentley and Rountree that this has never been an issue of
making them dedicate anything to them. Public right-of-way and looking back
through the minutes and testimony of '94 and '96, a lot of the people that are
here wanting the stuff was there, wanting - not wanting the public one back there
are testifying, so I'm - I donJt think we can hold them to dedicating that 200-foo1.
Corrie: Okay. Is that your motion?
Bird: I'll make a motion if you want me to.
Corrie: Please.
Bird: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move that we approve their request for conditional use permit for Phase III
of S1. Luke's Medical Center on 520 South Eagle Road and delay it to Planning
and Zoning Commission's recommendation 1.21 from the deals and from the
legal to prepare the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law and Decision of
Order.
Bentley: Second.
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Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Bird, seconded by Mr. Bentley to approve the
conditional use permit request from St. LukeJs Regional Medical Center with the
exclusion of 1.21 of Planning and Zoning's recommendations and that the
attorney draw up the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law on that basis and
Decision of Order. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor of the
motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
ITEM 17.
APPEAL APPLICATION: REQUEST FOR APPEAL DECISION
OF ZONING ADMINISTRATOR BY MIKE FORDNANKE
MACHINE SHOP:
Corrie: Council, do you want to table the appeal application and request for
special (inaudible) or do you want - request for special (inaudible) I think it's
going to have to be taken up (inaudible)
Bird: Mr. Mayor, I would - let's get this appeal thing over with and then we're
pretty well wiped out. I hope it don't take too long. I'm wiped out already
anyway.
Corrie: Okay. (inaudible) Item No. 17 is an appeal application: Request for
appeal decision of zoning administrator by Mike Ford/Yanke Machine Shop. The
- who is going to be - okay.
Ford: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, my name's Mike Ford. I manage and
develop real estate for Ron Yanke and his affiliated companies. I'm here - Shari,
can you put up that first - that one there. These properties, this piece of property
we refer to as the (inaudible) property and the Howell (sic) property. The reason
I'm here is that I sold these two properties. They're separate parcels. One in
1997 and one in 1998. One of those property owners now has applied for a
building permit, and Shari has told them that she believes that they're illegal lots.
I'm not sure what my legal obligation is, but I certainly have a moral obligation
that I sold those lots with the intent that each of those buyers had the right to a
building permit, and the property to the north had legal access by a 60-foot
easement. Those properties have been split and in there you'll see the deeds,
since 1974. That's two years before the State Land Plan Act even came into
effect. In 1981, the City of Meridian annexed the property along with all those
other properties that are shown up there. The ordinance annexing those
properties is also enclosed in your package, and you'll see that the City annexed
those properties as two separate properties with a 50-foot easement going to the
north property. In 1989, Shari, if you could go back to that record of survey,
please. I did this record of survey in 1989. The property remains split in the
same place it was originally along the ditch. The ditch is what's always referred
to. What I did, I moved the easement, the 60-foot easement from the west side
of the property, the long side of the - to the short side feeling that when I went to
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sell that property, it was, you know, made more sense to me to have a shorter
road to the back property than on the west side. Shari tells me she believes on
the road issue it has to be, the property has to be touching the highway. I'm
probably saying that wrong, and she can better explain it. But, to me that is just
a driveway to the property and back like you see if there's a residential lot, we
see a lot of driveways going back to a piece of property. That's basically what I
know. I have Dick Heaton with me who is general counsel to Mr. Yankee and his
companies. If thereJs legal questions. Walt Morrow was kind enough to come
tonight because Walt was along with Ron Van Auker who I've spoken to and told
me the same thing. WeJre the catalyst behind having this property annexed and
zoned back in '81, and he knows the history of what went on with the City and
the intent and everything at that time. Be happy to answer any questions. Also,
the folks that I sold the property to are in the audience tonight, too, and they're
certainly the ones that wold like to be able to get a building - be eligible for a
building permit for each of their properties which Shari has told them. The way
she looks at it right now, there's only one building permit that can be issued for
these two properties. Any questions?
Corrie: None right now.
Ford: Okay. Thank you.
Corrie: yeah. We have to establish that there was an error (inaudible) so
anything that you have, that would be fine.
Morrow: I'm Walt Morrow, 2340 West Franklin Road, last name spelled
M-O-R-R-Q-W. Just a point of clarification, can't add a lot to what Mike has said
except in terms of the history, properties were -
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and put together beginning of 1977. As Mike has stated, the annexation requrest
that was put together by myself and Mr. Van Auker and what you have in your
packet were all separate parcels of ground at that point in time. They paid
separate property taxes, they had separate legal descriptions, they were
annexed as separate pieces of property. There was an access easement from
the Rattigan (sic) parcel to what was known as the Howell parcel that was done
prior to the Land Use Planning Act of 1976; it was the only means by which you
could access another piece of property at that point in time. So there are many
of those types of access agreements or access easements with rural agricultural
property that you will run into as the City begins to annex and zone other
properties. We put together the project, brought it forward for zoning and
annexation in 1981; it was zoned (inaudible) industrial as Lender Industrial Park
with each parcel being represented in its shape at that point in time that I'm
familiar with; there's been no resubdivision of any of the original parcels. The
parcels ranged in size from one acre to 40 acres; the zoning and annexation that
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we did was with the agreement that if and when it became time to develop each
parcel that if they developed as a single parcel, it was a single building permit. If
there was to be more than one user in subdivision created the property that the
subdivision would then conform to the applicable subdivision's ordinance that the
City of Meridian had at the time that that subdivision was done. So in the case of
these two pieces of property, there's individual users for each property, they
would get one building permit utilizing the six acres as one site and the 14 acres
as another site. If they wish to split that into any other uses, then they would
have to conform to all the zoning-annexation requirements, subdivision
development requirements that the City has in effect at this particular point in
time. Any questions with respect to the history of these properties?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: No. Okay. Thank you. Anyone else? Shari, would you kind of give us
the reason for your decision.
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, the more I've researched this, the more confused
I get. The warranty deeds that were attached to what Mr. Ford provided me did
show some splits; however, it looks, at least just going over it right now, it looks
like the property changed hands at least six or seven times within a week in '81.
I'm not an attorney or real estate attorney, I can't dig through all this. There was
a quitclaim deed that basically gave Lake Hazel Shopping Center the entire
property on May 29, 1981. The legal descriptions and the warranty deeds that
were provided to the City upon annexation were rejected because they were not
meets and bounds descriptions; the tax commission could not accept them for
legal annexation. So what eventually, the ordinance that was passed by the City
Council was a meets and bounds description of the entire parcel that was
presented as the Lender Park Industrial Subdivision. As part of that annexation
in the ordinance that was passed by Council, it said the property was annexed
subject to - property was annexed to the City of Meridian subject to the following
requirements: that the preliminary plat to be submitted answers to the questions
of traffic, landscaping, sewer and water connections and design review. We're
kind of faced now with pretty much a peacemeal development out there; no
consideration for any of the access or it's approximately 160 acres, and what
really triggered all of this was the people that bought this property, this piece
here, came in for a building permit, and we asked that they provide evidence that
it was in that configuration in 1984 which is what we do to establish whether it's a
legal parcel or notJ and they submitted a warranty deed that hadn't been
recorded, and then they also submitted this piece of property showing it in four
pieces now; although that's not been anything recorded. It was a big problem
with where they proposed to put the building because the building would have
been right on top of this 60-foot easement. I can't tell from Ada County's records,
they've been doing some researching. I'm going to go back down there this
week and try to figure out why this record of survey was done. If it wasn't
splitting property, I don't know what the purpose was. The legals that were
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previously done on these six to ten deeds, I donJt know how many deeds if they
are, all describe this entire parcel except some of the deeds say except that
portion south and west of the canal. The only thing I can figure is, maybe they
can answer this, is now they have actually done a meets and bounds description
that shows they are going to the center line of that canal. Before it was
impossible to tell from the deeds even where - there was no meets and bounds
description. It wasn't based on - I couldn't tell what it was based on. Because
this lot has no public road access or no approved private road, we deem this split
to not be legal, and that's why we did not accept the building permit application.
Corrie: Council have any questions of Shari and that explanation?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Do you want to say something?
Heaton: Yes. My name is Dick Heaton, I'm general counsel for the Yanke
Machine Shop and related entities. I'd like to respond to a couple of the
comments. First of all, the deeds are consistent. The first deed out from the
Rattigan's of any portion of the property was in 1974. That deed conveyed way
the what's now called the Howell property and conveyed an easement on the
west side of the property 60 feet wide. Every deed since then contained those
same legal descriptions, and one - the legal description to the Howell proprety
was the legal description of all the property except that property south and west.
The legal descriptions to the Rattigan property was that property south and west.
That's the legal description that was written into the annexation ordinance. Shari
mentioned that the annexation ordinance had been changed. The annexation
ordinance that is in front of you was the ordinance that was approved in June
1981; it was recorded on June 8th of 1981. Shari is right. There were several
deeds recorded on or about that same time in 1981. The reason for that was
there had been some escrowed contracts. So they were pulled out of the
escrows and recorded at the same time. Lake Hazel Shopping Center, which is
a partnership owned by Mr. Tom Nicholson and Mr. Ron Yanke, purchased these
two properties in two separate transactions. The Howell property was purchased
from a combination of Howell and Barnes. There was an escrowed contract at
that time. Purpose of the quitclaim deed was to clear the titles so that there was
no question that the Howell interest in the property had been conveyed to Lake
Hazel Shopping Center. The warranty deed ran from Larry Barnes and his wife
to Lake Hazel Shopping Center. You have those deeds. A couple of years after
that, Ron and Tom in taking care of their affairs, transferred the property to
Yanke Machine Shop. The Howell property and the Rattigan property were
transferred as separate parcels, two separate deeds, and you have in your
packet, I believe, a separate deed for each parcel. The Assessor's Office, which
is maybe the most difinitive spot to look in terms of whether a division had been
recognized prior to the action by the City to annex, had assessed those under
two separate parcel numbers. The Assessor's Office still does. The assessment
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parcel numbers are in the maps in front of you, and thereJs one for each parcel.
The purpose for the survey was because we felt, and by the way, I'm not
speaking for Mike, we felt that to convey that property was best to define the
boundaries. The boundaries are the same now as they were before except that
now they're definite. Several of the meets and bounds (inaudible) changed as
they always do when you go from unsurveyed land to surveyed land, but the
nature of the property and the two lots never did change. The significant change
was Mike moved a 60-foot easement that ran from here back to there to here
back to there. The reason for that move is common sense. That's a private
driveway; private driveways are very common. We just spent a lot of time in the
last few minutes listening about a private driveway to service St. Luke's Hospital.
We can certainly serve that one lot with a private driveway. Yanke's feel and
obligation to make sure that the people who bought this, and those, again, were
two separate transactions, separate years, got what they paid for. Each one of
those people bought a lot thinking that it was eligible for a building permit. They
thought that because we thought that. We had thought that for 25 years. Is
there any questions?
Bird: I have none.
Ford: If I could speak to the last thing that Shari said aobut when the applicant
Caparelli (sic) came in and had it split up into four lots or something like this,
that -
Corrie: Identify yourself again, Mike.
Ford: Excuse me. I'm Mike Ford. Shari's comment was the Caparelli came in
with something splitting that up four times or something like that. As she is
aware and as I have told Mr. Caparelli and his partner, that's strictly between
them and the City. That is subdividing that piece of property, and that's none of
my business, basically. I'm here again to hopefully be able to say, "Yes, I sold
you what I thought I sold you and you bought what you thought you were buying."
Thank you.
Corrie: Okay.
Anderson: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Anderson.
Anderson: Question for you, Shari. You indicated when you started off your
reasons for denial, you were confused. Has any of the testimony youJve heard
tonight, has that helped clear anything up for you? Do you still have the same
opinion as you had before, or are you still confused?
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Stiles: It has - I am still confused, but it hasn't cleared it up that the most recent
warranty deed I have for the property shows it as one parcel; it was conveyed as
one parcel from Lake Hazel Shopping Center to Yanke Machine Shop.
Bird: I disagree.
Stiles: It was supplied to me by Mike Ford.
Bird: Which number is it, Shari? Which deed number?
Stiles: 8218773. It's the entire parcel from Franklin Road to the railroad.
Bird: 8212136-
Stiles: That is the most recent deed prior to their sale, and that's what we would
rely on in determining whether it was a legal, separate parcel.
Heaton: May I speak?
Corrie: Give your name first.
Heaton: This is Dick Heaton again.
Corrie: Thank you.
Heaton: I have in my hand two original recorded deeds. These are not copies.
One is from Lake Hazel Shopping Center to Yanke Machine Shop, and the legal
description starts out: That portion of the following property line south and west
of the canal to wit, and then it continues to describe -
Bird: What's the number on it?
Heaton: The number is -
Bird: Up at the top.
Heaton: -- torn off the top. Recorded on May 4th of 1982. The other deed does
have the number; it's 8212136. It says - it describes the property at the bottom,
it says: Except that portion south and west of the canal. That's the way all of the
legals have been written. One is clearly of the north property and one is clearly
of the south property. These are the originals I have in my hand here.
Bird: Ours reads the same thing.
Heaton: Okay. J
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Corrie: Yankee - that warranty deed (inaudible) Lake Hazel Shopping Center to
Yanke Machine Shop. That was April 30th '82; is that correct? It says 8218773
(inaudible) -
Stiles: He's right. That is describing the one south and west of the canal. The
other one is except south and west of the canal.
Bird: Mr. Heaton, before you go, when were you annexed?
Heaton: In 1981, June of 1981.
Bird: This split was done back in '74?
Heaton : In 1974 was the - yes.
Bird: And when did it go on the tax roll as separate properites?
Heaton: I would have presumed it would have had to have gone on immediately
after 1974 because two different people owned it.
Bird: That's right.
Heaton: But I don't have copies of those tax (inaudible).
Bird: (inaudible).
Heaton: But it would have had to have been taxed continuously since 1974. We
know it's been taxed separately continuously since we've owned the property.
Bird: Since you've purchased it, you've paid taxes on two separate parcels.
Heaton: Two separate parcels; right.
Bird: It has not been divided since the annexation?
Heaton: It has not, no.
Bird: It was divided before the annexation.
Heaton: That's correct.
Bird: Okay.
Stiles: I just want to clarify that the ones they show is dated - the deeds are
dated '74. They're not recorded until '81; ten days before theyJre annexed.
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Heaton: That was the escrow's contract.
(inaudible discussion amongst Council members)
Corrie: Okay. Any further questions?
Bird: I have none.
Anderson: I have none.
Corrie: (inaudible) Okay. Then I'll entertain a motion as far as the appeal of -
Bird: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I don't know how to state this, but I'll try. I move that we approve the
appeal of the decision of Zoning (inaudible) and not taking anything away from
Shari, but also realizing that that was split before it was brought in, but if they -
they will have to go through the process, the new owners will have to go through
the process if they want to split anymore. So I move that we approve the appeal
decision.
Rountree: I'll second.
Corrie: Okay. Motion has been made and seconded to approve the appeal
request.
Gigray: Point of information.
Corrie: Mr. Gigray.
Gigray: If this motion passes, then what I would - understand my directive would
be to prepare the necessary order which would include a Finding by the City
Council that the legal descriptions as provided in the evidence for the two parcels
existed at the time of annexation and that they could proceed with their
applications in accordance with the state of those properties at that time is how
I'd write it up given your motion.
Bird: I would agree to that.
Corrie: Okay. Any further discussion? All those in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Stiles: Could I get some clarification now?
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Corrie: Yes.
Stiles: There's an existing easement 60-feet wide on the west side and this
easement created, I guess, I don't know why this record of survey was done, but
now it shows there's an easement on the east side. Bill, do you have any advice
on -
Gigray: Mr. Mayor and members of the Council, I think that what I understood
the motion to be was that it would make the finding of the existence of these two
parcels at the time of annexation, which at that time included an easement, I
believe, on the west, whether or not the easement being on the west or the east
or the east has anything to do with issuance of a building permit I think was a
matter of review on the part of the staff as to what effect, if any, that has on
existing ordinances. That may pose other issues or it may not. I just don't know.
Their position is that they probably made a trade of the easements at some point
in time. I don't know that that necessarily affects the - comes under our
jurisdiction under the subdivision ordinance, but that could be looked at
separately. I think this issue has to do primarily with whether or not - I think
there was some - maybe some confusion, even on the part maybe of Yanke,
because I know we staffed this originally with - not Mr. Heaton, but another - it
was Mr. Miller, I believe. I was getting confused because I got the impression -
okay. Well, I'm sorry. I got the impression that we had parcels established by a
record of survey with some reliance upon past practice of the City allowing one-
time splits, and I think we kind of got off on that direction, and what I hear their
possition as presented by the evidence, supported by your motion is there were
two parcels at the time of annexation which is a different situation. We may have
learned something through this process.
: I guess my question is, you know, (inaudible) whatever, (inaudible), Shari, to
you, I guess, which side that easement's on. Is that important to you (inaudible)
if it is (inaudible).
Stiles: If the easement exists, then, obviously, it matters.
: Well, (inaudible).
Stiles: If there's two easements of record, then they can't build on either one of
them.
: Give one up.
Stiles: I had another concern is since this property back here has no access, and
this record of survey establishes the property line at the center line, at least the
new legal descriptions that were prepared in '89, whoJs going to pay for their half
of the bridge?
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: (inaudible) property owners have dealt with that. That's not going to be a
public road. I think the property owners are willing to deal with that. Again, I
think the question (inaudible)
Stiles: If whatever Ada County Highway District will accept is whatever offsets -
: (inaudible) not an ACHD road (inaudible)
Corrie: But it's an access.
Stiles: So the Council is approving, basically, a private road to this back parcel?
Is that not correct?
Bird: Wait a minute. We didn't approve anything but this thing that it was split
when it was annexed. It has - it had an easement. Now, I donJt really care what
side the easement's on. I'm kind of like that. But whatever it was under, that's
what we approved. We didn't approve anything dealing with a road yet. That
was a right-of-way easement.
Stiles: But when the back parcel comes in, it has to have frontage on a public
road or an approved private road. Is this an approved private road?
Bird: That's when we deal- we do just like we did with the Treasure Valley
Baptist Church and K & L over there. That's - we dealt with the thing over there.
I donJt know how you'd deal with it now, Shari, because they may want to put it
up the center.
Stiles: So you'd approve it at the time they came in with a development?
Bird: That's would be my thinking. That's the way we've done it before. The one
or two since I've sat on the Council we've done, that was done in the
development agreement when they come in for the devleopment. All this appeal
was basically was whether it was a one parcel or two parcel when it was
annexed. We determined it was two parcels, it was two separate parcels.
Stiles: But that doesn't indicate they're two buildable parcels, then, because you
haven't approved the private road.
Morrow: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Have at it.
Corrie: Mr. Morrow.
Morrow: I'm sorry. Walt Morrow for the record. We determined that there was
two parcels.
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Bird: Yes, sir.
Morrow: The second parcel which is the Howell parcel in 1981 had an access
easement to that parcel. That still exists. If those folks want to come and get a
building permit for those 14 acres and access it on that existing easement, they
access it. They donJt have to go through a (inaudible)
Bird: I agree with you. But the appeal was on a two - whether it was one or two
parcels. We don't have anything to do on the development on this thing.
Morrow: No.
Bird: And so I could care - sure, I care, but as far as tonight, it don't matter
whether they have an easement or not.
Morrrow: I'm trying to get to - well, the answer to her question is, in my opinion,
is that if the people that own the back parcel come and ask for a building permit-
Bird: Yeah.
Morrow: -- they have a legal lot. They have access. The City upon aprpoval of
plans issues the building permits.
Bird: That's when that easement is handled at that point.
Morrow: Wel" the easement exists at that point as a driveway to there. It's not a
development agreement that has to be done unless that piece of property is
further split into other pieces of property.
Bird: That's what - and as I understood, that's what happened to that piece of
property is Sill and his partner come in and showed her four separate lots or
something which you - I don't know anything about that, but what we were
dealing with tonight was whether it was one parcel land or whether it was two
when it was annexed. That's the part that I'm concerned about. That's what
we're done with tonight.
Morrow: And the further question that she's asking for guidance on is which
easement is it that they're going to utilize to access the back piece of property.
Bird: Well, I think that can be done by whoever owns the property (inaudible) get
together. I mean, you know, if they want to use it 60 up the long way, that's fine
with me. If you want to do it the other side, 1 don't care.
Morrow: (inaudible) position they take.
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Bird: That's the position that they have to take for the development. I thought, I
mean, we've done what we were asked to do tonight, and the rest of it comes
(inaudible).
Morrow: I think the point it had (inaudible) discussion was try to get some clarity
from the standpoint because if the issues raised by Shari and others outside of
this forum, and then it has to come back to the Council in terms of private sectors
thing, then, what did you really mean here. Her question is fair.
Bird: That's true. But that is handled when the plat or whatever you want to do
coming in to develop it.
Morrow: It's a single development or there wouldn't be a plat.
Bird: That's right. It's a single development.
Morrow: (inaudible)
Corrie: Okay. We're back to - stay up any longer.
Bird: You got over the easy part now.
ITEM 18. REQUEST FOR SPECIAL PERMIT FOR USE OF
PYROTECHNICS OCTOBER 29TH AND 30TH BY BRUCE
YOUNGER, MERIDIAN ASSEMBLY OF GOD AND TEEN MANIA
MINISTRIES:
Corrie: Item No. 18 is a request for special permit. That's against - that's going
to have to go by the wayside because you can't get a special permit because the
ordinances (inaudible) reads, and they don't have the (inaudible) in the first
place.
Bird: I was going to say -
Corrie: (inaudible).
Bird: (inaudible) a one week.
Corrie: It shouldnJt have even been on the agenda.
ITEM 19. APPROVAL OF CITY ELECTION JUDGES AND CLERKS
Corrie: Item No. 19 - approval of City Election Judges and Clerks. Will. Do you
want to tell us about it? Show us here what they're about?
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Berg: Yes. Mr. Mayor and members of the Council, in your packet is a list of
election judges and clerks that my Election Judge and Clerks Coordinator, June
Pack, has submitted together from past elections that she's had experiences with
these people. I just have the formality of putting these names before you and for
your approval for our election on November 2nd.
Bird: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move that we approve the City Election Judge and Clerks as stated and
for the Mayor to sign and the Clerk to attest.
Rountree: Second.
Corrie: Motion is made and seconded to approve the list submitted by the City
Clerk for the Judges and Clerks, Mayor to sign, City Clerk to attest. Further
discussion? All those in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
ITEM 20. DEPARTMENT REPORTS:
A. JANICE SMITH
1. TREASURER'S REPORT
Corrie: Department reports; Janice, is she here? Okay.
Berg: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, Janice provided a memo to you that I
passed out that kind of explains the situation of the closing of the fiscal year, and
she'd be more than happy to come to the next or the soonest Council meeting
and advise you of the closing of the year. At this time, they don't have that
completed yet.
Bird: They got one more day. It's the 20th. Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: While we're on that, has our audit contract been signed with the auditors?
Corrie: Yes.
Bird: Good. Thank you.
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B. GARY SMITH:
1. HIRING OF CONSULTING ENGINEER-LATECOMER
AGREEMENTS APPROVED
2. INTERSTATE 84 SEWER CROSSING (LATE COMER'S
AGREEMENT) APPROVED
3. CITY OF MERIDIAN WATERLINE PROJECT, PHASE II
Corrie: Gary.
Smith: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Council members. First Item I have is request to
retain consulting engineer to assist us in development of some late-comer
agreements. That is the engineering portion of the late-comer agreements.
Requesting that you approve hiring of Keller and Associates from Meridian to
help us in determining the service areas and correlating the costs of the sewer
and/or water line installations with the service areas to arrive at the late-comer
fees that would be inserted into the late-comer agreement or agreements. The
work order agreement submitted by Keller and Associates has been reviewed by
Bill Gigray, and his comment was that we should strike next to last paragraph
that requires or limits the engineer's liability. I'm in agreement with that request.
Bird: Run this by me again? Client agrees to limit - which one?
Smith: It's a limitation that Keller is asking us for to limit the liability not to exceed
$50,000 or their total fee.
Bird: What's your standard practice -
Smith: I think we've just been eliminating it, Councilman Bird, totally. They're
responsible for - theyJre liable. They're being retained to prepare this information
for us; therefore they're liable -
Bird: So they're liable for anything. Good.
Smith: Yes, sir.
Bird: I go along with that.
Smith: And they have been requested - you have requested it in the past to
remove it from a contract, and they have removed it at our request, so it's not an
unusual request on our part. Other than that, I donJt have a dollar value for you,
projected dollar amount. Alii can say is we'll just keep very close tabs on it. It'd
be (inaudible) material. Do you have any questions that I can answer?
Corrie: Why don't you do all of them, Gary and then we'll do a roll-call vote on
each one of them and then (inaudible).
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Smith: Oh. All right. Thank you. The second item is a request from Gary Voigt,
Gary L. Voigt, that is the lead developer on the installation of the sanitary sewer
line crossing under 1-84 which would be an extension of the Five Mile trunk. He
is requesting by letter that the City enter into a late-comers agreement for the
costs of that sewer line extension. This is accordance with the requirements of
the ordinance for extension of sewer and water lines. It's called a Cooperative
Agreement. Lovingly referred to as late-comers agreement.
Bird: That's a standard procedure?
Smith: Yes, sir. That's the first step in the development of late-comers
agreement is your approval to allow them to enter into an agreement for
reimbursement of costs. I would request your approval of that request. Last item
I have is the request for your approval of Mayor Corrie's signature and City Clerk,
Will Berg's signature on two ditch crossing agreements that are needed between
the City of Meridian and the Settler's Irrigation District for waterlines that will be
crossing their facility on Locust Grove Road and also on Meridian Road. The
agreements are the same, very similar, except for the location. Mr. Gigray has
reviewed the agreements, and he doesn't have a problem with them. The
Settler's Irrigation Board has reviewed these agreements since the time that they
were sent to us for review and approval, and IJve been informed by phone from
their legal counsel that their Board has approved of the agreements as they were
submitted to us. So I would request your approval on that and to authorize
Mayor Corrie to sign and City Clerk, Berg, to attest his signature on each one of
those agreements.
Corrie: The motion for the first. The hiring a consultant engineer late-comer
agreement.
Bird: Can we do them all as long as we do them all together? As long as we've
got a roll-call vote? Mr. Mayor.
Rountree: Mr. Mayor.
Bird: Go ahead, Charlie.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move that we pass the hiring of this consulting engineer (late-comers fee
agreement), Interstate 84 sewer crossing late-comers fee agreement and the
City of Meridian Waterline Project Phase II for the Mayor to sign and the Clerk to
attest these agreements.
Bentley: Second.
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Corrie: Okay. Motion made and seconded to approve the hiring of consultant
engineer (late-comers agreement), Interstate 84 sewer line (late comers
agreement), City of Meridian Waterline Project Phase II. Any further discussion?
Hearing none, all those in favor ,of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Smith: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Council. May I ask one more question?
Corrie: Sure.
Smith: We have - Will and I have been meeting with ZGA Architects and the
development of concept plan for the Meridian Municiple Center, and this was a
contract that you folks approved sometime ago for them to develop a concept
plan for that building. I think they appeared at one of your workshops and had an
elevation perspective-type elevation of a building. They proceeded on that basis
to develop some space based on the space allocation study that they had done
for us previously. They have at this point submitted some very preliminary plans
for space allocations on a three-story structure and kind of based on that
perspective view that they presented to you at one of your workshops. I'm not
sure where you want to go with this. If you want to have a meeting with them
and take a look at what they submitted or just how you want to proceed, but we
did have a - City does have a contract with them for a certain number of dollars
to provide a certain amount of work, and right now, they're at a point where I
think it needs to be presented to you for your review and direction.
Corrie: You have to make a decision in open meeting, but if you want to have
them come, Charlie, they come the 26th or you want to have it November the 3rd
- presentation to you people at a pre-hearing?
Rountree: What kind of rush are they in?
Bird: What kind of rush are they in?
Rountree: TheyJre just dead in the water?
Smith: I think their schedule - your schedule, whatever, however you want to
proceed is not -
Rountree: Okay. Mr. GigrayJs got a comment.
Corrie: Mr. Gigray.
Gigray: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, one thing you may consider in
setting this is the degree of - One of the things you may want to consider is the
amount of public presence that you might want to have, and they have this
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presentation. I noticed this evening when you had the Pre-Council schedule,
there were a number of people here probably in preparation for later items.
There tend to be less people when you have workshops, and I donJt know what
stage you're in, what - how you want this presented at this point. Either way, it'd
be a public meeting, but I think one provides a little more privacy than the other.
Bird: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Mayor.
Rountree: We could add that to the 26th. What kind of (inaudible) need a half an
hour?
Smith: I wouldn't think that it'd be anymore than that.
Bird: I think we - I'd like to do a little more study. I'd like to see their deal. I'm
with you, Charlie. But on the 26th, we've got to devote, I feel, most of that
meeting to getting a sewer plan, a trunk fee in place, given Gary and his
department some guidance of where we want to go and how we want to go and
when we want to go. Are we going to have it ready in two years, 50 years or 1 00
years? We need to - I think we need to put a lot of that on that trunk.
Corrie: Mr. Bentley.
Bentley: Also better get the budget finished.
Corrie: Have we got the things I talked to Charlie about, we need to make some
decision, too, on that (inaudible) land. Senior citizens' request and that's pretty
primary, I think. Charlie has considered that, too, at the meeting.
Bird: I though we had the (inaudible) all figured out. Just write the check, man.
Corrie: Give me authority.
C. JOHN T. SHAWCROFT
1. CONTRACT FOR THOMAS B. DOMINICK, ATTORNEY AT
LAW FOR PRE-TREATMENT PROGRAM
2. CONTRACT FOR PATRICIA BROWN (ENVIRONMENTAL
CONSULTANTS) FOR QAQC PLAN
Corrie: Okay. John Shawcroft.
Shawcroft: Good morning, Mayor. Good morning, Councilmen.
Corrie: You can do both of these at the same time if you'd like to.
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Shawcroft: Yeah. These will fast. I think the first one, the contract for Thomas
Dominick, I think I'd tabled at this time with your permission.
Corrie: Okay.
Shawcroft: I had a discussion with Mr. Gigray earlier and I'd like to go a little
deeper into it. The second is a contract for Patricia Brown with Brown and
Caldwell to develop a QAQC Plan. This is the plan is required in our new
NPDES permit which becomes effective November 2nd, and it effectively gives
the City 120 days to develop this plan and 30 days after the development to
implement. Basically what a QAQC Plan, it's a quality assurance Quality Control
Plan for the laboratory. What it does is it is an assurance to EPA that we are
doing our tests correctly and that we are controlling outside factors which could
affect those results so that actually the numbers that we're getting is what we
should be; is in fact true, I should say.
Corrie: Okay. Any discussion on that?
Rountree: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Charlie.
Rountree: There's a reference in here that standard terms and conditions as the
agreement that's been provided by Brown and Caldwell been reviewed by
Council.
Bird: You're tired, too.
Corrie: No, it's not that I'm tired. I just-
Gigray: Excuse me, Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Gigray.
Gigray: Members of the Council, I don't have a present recollection of reviewing
that. That doesn't mean that it hasn't been done.
(inaudible discussion amongst members)
Rountree: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: I move that we approve entering into a contract with Brown and
Caldwell for QAQC not to exceed $8,000 subject to review by Council.
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Bird: Second.
Corrie: It's okay.
Gigray: I've looked at it. As long as John's satisfied with the scope of the work
and amount, it's fine.
Corrie: Okay. Motion made and seconded that we approve the contract to
Patricia Brown (environmental consultants) for QAQC Plan. Further discussion?
All those in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
D. MA VOR CORRIE
1. PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION APPOINTMENT
Corrie: Okay. The last item, Parks of Recreation employment. I had (inaudible)
Christine and - her name just went by me. Donna Brown - not Donna Brown,
but anyway - Debbie Watkins. They both came in, talked to them both -
*** End of Side 6 ***
I recommend employment of Christine Smagula
Rountree: You did that well for this late at night.
Bird: If you pronounced - so moved.
Bentley: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to approve the Parks and Recreation
employment. Further discussion? All those in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
3. DISCUSSION ON HEALTH INSURANCE CARRIER FOR 2000
Corrie: Discussion for health insurance carrier for 2000. Pauline. Been up for a
long time.
(inaudible discussion amongst Council members)
Skeggs: In regard to the renewal process, we are in the process right now with
Blue Shield. They have sent out to bid. We got the renewal from Blue Shield,
and our broker, Marsh/Seabury & Smith, which was currently Sedgwick, they
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have merged with another company so their name has changed, they sent it out
to bid with Blue Cross to get a comparative quote. We've received the quote in
from Blue Shield, and it looks like the renewal's at 10.7 percent which last year
when they came in, they told us that there would be a maximum, they would
guarantee a maximum of not over 12 percent. Well, the renewal quote came in
at 10.7 percent. We - they're in the process of getting a quote from Blue Cross,
so we haven't gotten that information yet.
Bird: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Pauline, are we just having one agent quote it or - my question is did - we
didn't sign up for a two-year program with Sedgwick. I call it Segwick. Are we
having other agents quote it? There's other people that handle Blue (inaudible)
and there's other people that handle Blue Cross.
Skeggs: Right. But normally, you know, this is a service contract. It's not a bid
for work, and normally when you have a broker of record, you continue with that
broker unless you've encountered problems and then you can change the broker
of record. If you send it out to bid with several carriers every year, they're going
to come back with the same bids unless they're not quoting the group the same
because if they're not disclosing risks within our plan, like, say we have some
high claims and they don't disclose that, the bidJs going to come in lower. But
they're not comparing apples to apples. You're going to get several brokers
bidding on it, but you're going to get the same quotes, and it doesn't benefit us -
Bird: I disagree with you.
Skeggs: It doesn't benefit us to go out and have several brokers quote it.
Bird: How come private does it?
Skeggs: Privates don't always do it.
Bird: Private, big private companies do.
Corrie: No, the don't.
Skeggs: No, they don't. They only go out to bid if theyJre not happy with the
service or the cost - there's a cost comparison.
Bird: No.
Skeggs: I've been doing this for 18 years, and my last job I went out and bidded
for groups, and we didn't bid them on an annual basis. It isn't done on an annual
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basis unless you're encountering problems like we did last year. There was
significant change in the cost of Blue Cross, so we went out to bid to see what
(inaudible) -
Bird: (inaudible)
Skeggs: -- but we didn't have several brokers doing it because we have an
agreement. We have one -
Bird: We have an agreement?
Skeggs: We have an agreement, a broker agreement.
Bird: I donJt think (inaudible)
Skeggs: You always have a broker of record.
Corrie: Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. SheJs got the floor.
Bird: Okay.
Skeggs: You normally have a broker of record, and you don't go out with several
brokers to bid it. Self-insured plans do because it's a change in stop-loss
carriers, but not several brokers bidding it. It just doesn't make sense.
Corrie: Okay. Mr. Bird.
Bird: No. I don't have anymore.
Corrie: SO there are - youJre getting a bid from Blue Shield and also Blue
Cross?
Skeggs: Uh-huh.
Corrie: Okay. The other one is only - there's one more, I think it's available -
Skeggs: John Alden?
Corrie: John Alden, yeah. Okay. Any other discussion? Okay. December the
ih, would you like to have the Norm (inaudible) come in and talk to you about
these Parks and Rec master plan? On December the 7th they've asked - the 7th
or the 14th of December.
Rountree: Seventh would be fine.
Corrie: December the 7th is on Tuesday. Yeah. Okay. We could do that in Pre-
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Berg: Yeah.
Corrie: Okay. I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.
Rountree: So moved.
Anderson: Second.
Corrie: Okay. Motion made and seconded. All those in favor say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 12:20 P.M.
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MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL MEETING:
OCTOBER 19,1999
APPLICANT:
ITEM #: 20C
REQUEST: JOHN T. SHAWCROFT
1) CONTRACT FOR THOMAS B. DOMINICK, ATTORNEY AT LAW FOR PRE TREATMENT PROGRAM
2)CONTRACT FOR PATRICIA BROWN (ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT) FOR QAQC PLAN
AGENCY
CITY CLERK:
COMMENTS
CITY ENGINEER:
CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR:
CtTY ATTORNEY:
CITY POLICE OEPT:
MERIDIAN POST OFFICE:
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CITY BUILDING DEPT:
CITY SEWER OEPT:
CITY WATER DEPT:
MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT:
ADA COUNTY STREET NAME COMMITTEE:
CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION:
SETTLERS IRRIGATION:
IDAHO POWER:
US WEST:
BUREAU OF RECLAMATION:
INTERMOUNTAIN GAS:
ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT:
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MERIDIAN PARKS~ g~ RECREATION
Memora"ndum
To:
From:
Date:
Re:
Mayor Corrie and Council
TomKuntz~.
October 13, 1999
Davis Drain Tiling - Chateau Park
On September 29th, we opened bids to tile Davis drain which borders the future five
acre Chateau park on two sides. The low bidder was Sommer Construction with a
pnce of$59,976.
We budgeted $40,000 in last year's (98-99) capital expenditure for tiling the ditch.
My lUlderstanding from our auditing firm is that the money cannot be carried over into
this year's capital budget. I did not request new money from this year's capital budget
for the tiling project because I assumed the project would be lUlder contract by
September 1999 and the money would be carried over from last year.
I would appreciate your direction on this project as Sommer Construction is waiting to
hear from us. Thank Yau.
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11 W Bower St.
Meridian, ID 83642
(208) 888-3579
MEMORANDUM
CITY OF MERIDIAN
CITY CLERK'S OFFICE
TO: Charlie Rountree, Council President
FROM: William G. Berg, Jr. ~~
DA TE: Monday, October 4, 1999
RE: Presentations for Legal Representation
I have sent the attached letters to the three applicants for legal representation. I
set the schedule by reverse alphabetical order as we talked about. If you need
me to do any more follow up work, let me know. Thanks
7:00 PM
White, Peterson, Pruss, Morrow & Gigray, PA ~
Foley & Freeman, Chartered - dl-
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Hamilton, Michaelson & Hilty, LLP
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ROBERT D. CORRIE
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A Good Place to Li ve
LEGAL DEPARTMENT
(208) 288-2499 · Fax 288-2501
City Council Members
CITY OF MERIDIAN
CHARLES ROUNTREE
GLENN BENTLEY
RON ANDERSON
KEITH BIRD
33 EAST IDAHO
lVIERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642
(208) 888-4433 · Fax (208) 887-4813
City Clerk Fax (208) 888-4218
PUBLfC WORKS
BUILDING DEPARTMENT
(208) 887-2211 · Fax 887-1297
PLANNING AND ZONING
DEPARTMENT
(208) 884-5533 · Faz 887-1297
NOTICE OF PRE-COUNCIL MEETING
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of Meridian
will hold a Pre-Council Meeting at City Hall, 33 East Idaho, Meridian, Idaho, on
Tuesday, October 19,1999 at 6:45 P.M. The Meridian City Council will discuss
agenda items on the regular City Council meeting.
The public is welcome to attend.
DATED this 15th day of October, 1999
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1st - 2nd - 3rd Tuesday of the Month - 7:30 P.M.
Fourth Tuesday of the Month - 12 noon
150 North Capitol Blvd.
City Hall - 3rd Floor - Les Bois Room
MAYOR
BRENT COLES
CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
* CAROL YN TERTELING - Council President
*:MIKE WETHERELL - President Pro Tern
* SARA BAKER
*p AULA FORNEY
* ANNE HAUSRATH
* JER01vIE MAPP
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Pre-Council Meeting Agenda Schedule for October 12, 1999
5:00 P.M. Parks Discussion: Jim Hall, Parks and Recreation Department
5:30 P.M. Area of Impact Boundary Adjustment: Scott Spjute, Planning and Development Services
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6:00 P.M. Executive Session: Labor Negotiations, I.C. 67-2345(1)(c)
7: 00 P.M. Pre-Consent Agenda (see attached) and Dinner
PRE-CONSENT AGENDA:
****Items scheduled on Pre-Consent and Consent Agendas.
MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS:
* A. BidIRFP: Approval of Payment of Reimbursable Expenditures for Operation of The Grove Street
Parking Garage, Parking Control
*B. BidIRFP: Award ofContract~ Approval of Agreement Number OO-Con-03: Contract for Audit
Services, Division of Financial Management
******C. BidIRFP: Approval of Contract for Communication Dispatch Services, Boise Fire
Department
******D. BidIRFP: RFP 99-075: Foothills Open Space Management Plan, Boise Parks and
Recreation Department
*E. The City Clerk requests the following claims(s) be received and referred to the office of the
Treasurer:
a) Carissa M. Thornock, Property Damage
******F. The City Clerk requests the following public hearing be scheduled in Council Chambers on
November 9, 1999:
a) CAR99-00048/Charlie Anderson requests a development agreement approved under RZ-23-93/DA.
The modification would change the use restrictions in the development agreement to allow an
application to be processed for a planned residential development on 13.0 acres located at 8565 W.
Fairview Avenue in a C-2D/DA (General Commercial with Design Review and a Development
Agreement) zone.
b) CAROO-00045/Capitol City Development Company requests approval of a rezone of approximately
1/8 acre from H-SD (Health Service with Design Review) to C-2D (General Commercial with Design
Review) at 910 N. Raymond Street.
******G. The City Clerk requests the following public hearing be scheduled in Council Chambers on
November 16, 1999:
a) CAR99-0001 8/DA/Bruce and Steve Murdoch requests approval ofa rezone of 4.9 acres of
property from R-1C (Single Family Residential) to L-OD (Limited Office with Design Review) with a
Development Agreement at 13131 W. McMillan Road. CAR99-00018 was remanded by the Boise
City Council to the Boise City Planning and Zoning Commission to consider the rezone with a
Development Agreement that ties the rezone request to an office park development. The Boise City
Planning and Zoning Commission previously recommended approval of the rezone request without a
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Development Agreement on May 3, 1999.
*H. The City Clerk requests the following minutes and reports be received by Council and directed
filed in the office of the City Clerk:
a) City of Boise Treasury Division, State of the Treasury Report, September 1999
b) Boise City Planning and Zoning Commission Minutes, September 13, 1999
c) Boise City Building Construction Report, Calendar Report, Jan.-Sept. 1999
d) Boise City Building Construction Report, Fiscal Report, Oct.-Sept. 1999
e) Boise City Building Construction Report, September 1999
ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS:
* A. 0-62-99 AN ORDINANCE (CAR99-0033/ AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF HEALTH
TECHNOLOGY FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1200 N. LIBERTY ROAD) AMENDING
ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF THE CITY OF BOISE CITY TO CHANGE THE
CLASSIFICATION OF REAL PROPERTY PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION ONE
OF THIS ORDINANCE FROM R-2 (COMBINED RESIDENTIAL) TO L-OD (LIMITED OFFICE
WITH DESIGN REVIEW); SETTING FORTH FINDINGS OF FACT IN SUPPORT OF SUCH
ZONE CHANGE; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
*B. R-456-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF BOISE, AN AGREEMENT FOR GO-CON-D3;
AUDITING SERVICES, DIVISION OF FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT, BETWEEN THE CITY
OF BOISE CITY AND BALUKOFF, LINDSTROM AND CO., P.A.; AND PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
******C. R-457-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF BOISE, AN AGREEMENT FOR RFP 99-075; OPEN
SPACE MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR BOISE FOOTHILLS PUBLIC LANDS, BOISE PARKS
AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, BETWEEN THE CITY OF BOSIE CITY AND SPATIAL
DYNAMICS, INC.; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
*D. R-458-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE AND ATTEST ON BEHALF OF BOISE CITY A LICENSE AGREEMENT BY AND
BETWEEN BOISE CITY ACTING THROUGH THE BOISE PARKS AND RECREATION
DEP ART MEN T (GRANTOR) AND HORMAECHEA LIMITED PARTNERSHIP (GRANTEE)
ALLOWING GRANTEE TO DEVELOP AND MAINTAIN SIDEWALKS AND A WATER
FEATURE ON APART OF GRANTOR'S RIGHT-OF-WAY; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
*E. R-459-99 A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE DESIGNATION OF AN EASEMENT FOR
THE CONSTRUCTION OF CITY SEWER PROJECT DRI 1187 ALONG AND ACROSS LAND
OWNED BY THE CITY OF BOISE AIRPORT; AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY
CLERK TO EXECUTE AND ATTEST SAID DESIGNATION OF EASEMENT DOCUMENT ON
BEHALF OF BOISE CITY; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
******F. R-460-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF BOISE, A CONTRACT FOR CO~CATION
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DISPATCH SERVICES FOR BOISE CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT, BOISE CITY, TO ADA
COUNTY; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
*G. R-461-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF BOISE, ADDENDUM NUMBER 1 TO THE
MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH ADA SOIL CONSERVATION DISTRlCT FOR
THE WARM SPRINGS PARK WETLANDS PROJECT, PARKS AND RECREATION
DEP ARTMENT; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
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Council Meeting Agenda Schedule for October 12, 1999
MINUTES OF THE BOISE CITY PRE-COUNCIL MEETING, October 5, 1999
MINUTES OF THE BOISE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, October 5, 1999
SPECIAL BUSINESS:
CONSENT AGENDA:
* All items with an asterisk(*) are considered to be routine by the Council and will be enacted by one
motion. There will be no separate discussion on these items unless a Council Member or citizen so
requests in which case the item will be removed from the general order of business and considered in
its normal sequence.
The City Clerk recommends approval of the consent agenda items on tonight's agenda: that 7 A thru
7G, 8B thru 8N (inclusive) be considered read in full: that SA be considered read for the second time
by title; and that proposed resolutions R-437-99, R-447-99, R-448-99, R-449-99, R-450-99, R-451-
99, R-452-99, R-453-99, R-454-99, R-455-99, R-457-99 and R-460-99 be adopted.
MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS:
* A. Request for approval of the Boise City checks nos. 025869 thru 026388 in the total amount of
$1,495,144.51 as of October 6, 1999.
******B. Bid/RFP: Approval of Contract for Communication Dispatch Services, Boise Fire
Department
******C. BidIRFP: RFP 99-075: Foothills Open Space Management Plan, Boise Parks and
Recreation Department
*D. The City Clerk requests the following claims(s) be received and referred to the office of the
Treasurer:
a) Beverly S. Myles, Personal Injury and Property Damage
******E. The City Clerk requests the following public hearing be scheduled in Council Chambers on
November 9, 1999:
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a) CAR99-00048/Charlie Anderson requests a development agreement approved under RZ-23-93/DA.
The modification would change the use restrictions in the development agreement to allow an
application to be processed for a planned residential development on 13.0 acres located at 8565 W.
Fairview Avenue in a C-2D/DA (General Commercial with Design Review and a Development
Agreement) zone.
b) CAROO-00045/Capitol City Development Company requests approval of a rezone of approximately
1/8 acre from H-SD (Health Service with Design Review) to C-2D (General Commercial with Design
Review) at 910 N. Raymond Street.
******F. The City Clerk requests the following public hearing be scheduled in Council Chambers on
November 16, 1999:
a) CAR99-00018/DA/Bruce and Steve Murdoch requests approval of a rezone of 4.9 acres of
property from R-IC (Single Family Residential) to L-OD (Limited Office with Design Review) with a
Development Agreement at 13131 W. McMillan Road. CAR99-00018 was remanded by the Boise
City Council to the Boise City Planning and Zoning Commission to consider the rezone with a
Development Agreement that ties the rezone request to an office park development. The Boise City
Planning and Zoning Commission previously recommended approval of the rezone request without a
Development Agreement on May 3, 1999.
*G. The City Clerk requests the followil1g minutes and reports be received by Council and directed
filed in the office of the City Clerk:
a) Ada County Highway District Commission Minutes, September 8, 1999
b) City of Boise Treasury Division, State of the Treasury Report, Revised July 1999 and August 1999
c) Boise City Planning and Zoning Commission Minutes, August 30, 1999
d) Quarterly Treasurer's Report, January 1 - March 31, 1999
ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS:
* A. 0-60-99 SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE (CAR99-0030/DARRELL AND
CHRISTINE WILSON FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3318 NORTH COLE ROAD)
AMENDING ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS OF THE CITY OF BOISE CITY TO CHANGE THE
CLASSIFICATION OF REAL PROPERTY P ART ICULARL Y DESCRIBED IN SECTION ONE
OF THIS ORDINANCE FROM R-1C (SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL) TO L-OD (LIMITED
OFFICE WITH DESIGN REVIEW); SETTING FORTH FINDINGS OF FACT IN SUPPORT OF
SUCH ZONE CHANGE; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
*B. 0-61-99 FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE (CAR99-0025/NfICRON TECHNOLOGY,
INC. FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 8000 S. FEDERAL WAY) AMENDING ZONING
CLASSlFICATION OF THE CITY OF BOISE CITY TO CHANGE THE CLASSIFICATION OF
REAL PROPERTY P ARTICULARL Y DESCRIBED IN SECTION ONE OF THIS ORDINANCE
FROM T -lD (TECHNOLOGICAL-INDUSTRIAL PARK WITH DESIGN REVIEW) TO T -2D
(TECHNOLOGICAL-MANUFACTURING PARK WITH DESIGN REVIEW); SETTING FORTH
FINDINGS OF FACT IN SUPPORT OF SUCH ZONE CHANGE; AND PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
*C. R-437-99 A RESOLUTION APPROVING A ONE (1) YEAR AVIATION LAND LEASE
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BETWEEN BOISE CITY AND UNITED STATES OF AMERIC~ ACTING THROUGH THE
FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, FOR THE LEASE OF CERTAIN PREMISES UPON
BOISE AIR TERMINAL (GOWEN FIELD); AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK
TO EXECUTE AND ATTEST SAID AGREEJ\1ENT; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
*D. R-447-99 A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN AGREEJ\1ENT OF LEASE BETWEEN BOISE
CITY AND MCDAN L.L.C. FOR THE LEASE OF PROPERTY UPON BOISE AIR TERMINAL
(GOWEN FIELD); AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE AND
ATTEST SAID AGREEJ\1ENT; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
*E. R-448-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF BOISE, TASK ORDER NUMBER ONE TO RFP 99-
050J; MISCELLANEOUS LEGAL SERVICES, LEGAL DIVISION, BETWEEN THE CITY OF
BOISE CITY AND JAMES J. DAVIS; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
*F. R-449-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF BOISE, TASK ORDER NUMBER ONE TO RFP 99-
050G; MISCELLANEOUS LEGAL SERVICES, LEGAL DIVISION, BETWEEN THE CITY OF
BOISE CITY AND MOORE, BASKIN AND PARKER; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
*G. R-450-99 A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN AGREEJ\1ENT OF LEASE "A" BETWEEN
BOISE CITY AND MARTIN-RICO INC. FOR THE LEASE OF PROPERTY UPON BOISE AIR
TERMINAL (GOWEN FIELD); AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE AND ATTEST SAID AGREEJ\1ENT; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
*H. R-451-99 A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN AGREEJ\1ENT OF LEASE "Bit BETWEEN
BOISE CITY AND MARTIN-RICO INC. FOR THE LEASE OF PROPERTY UPON BOISE AIR
TERMINAL (GOWEN FIELD); AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE AND ATTEST SAID AGREEJ\1ENT; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
*1. R-452-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
RESPECTIVELY EXECUTE AND ATTEST A RELEASE AND SATISFACTION OF A SEWER
EXTENSION AGREEJ\1ENT WITH KMST, LLD FOR EXTENSION OF SANITARY SEWERS
TO OVERLAND MARKET RETAIL CENTER; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
*J. R-453-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE AND ATTEST ON BEHALF OF BOISE CITY A COMNIERCIAL/INVESTJ\1ENT
REAL ESTATE PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEJ\1ENT BY AND BETWEEN NORV AN L. AND
LEONA C. JENSEN (SELLERS) AND BOISE CITY (BUYER) FOR THE PURCHASE OF
APPROXIMATELY SIXTY SIX (66) ACRES OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 9920 LAKE
HAZEL ROAD IN ADA COUNTY IDAHO; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
*K. R-454-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE AND ATTEST ON BEHALF OF BOISE CITY A GREENBELT LICENSE
AGREEJ\1ENT BY AND AMONG HARRIS FAMILY RANCH, LLP AND HARRIS/BRIGHTON
LLP (LICENSORS) AND BOISE CITY (LICENSEE) FOR THE PURPOSE OF RELOCATION OF
THE GREENBELT PATHWAY TO ACCO:MNIODATE CONTINUED GREENBELT ACCESS
AND USAGE OF THE GREENBELT NEAR SQUAW CREEK ROAD DURING HARRIS RANCH
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DEVELOPMENT AND UNTIL THE LICENSED PARCEL IS PLATED; AND PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
*L. R-455-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE AND ATTEST ON BEHALF OF BOISE CITY AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT BY
AND BETWEEN NATURES WOOD DUCK ISLAND HOMEOWNERS' ASSOCIATION, INC.
(GRANTOR) AND BOISE CITY (GRANTEE) TO SUPERCEDE AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT
BY AND AMONG BOISE CITY, RIVERVIEW VENTURES AND WOOD DUCK ISLAND
HOMEOWNERS' ASSOCIATION FOR THE USE AND MAINTENANCE OF THE
PEDESTRIANIBICYCLE P ATHW A Y LOCATED IN NATURES WOOD DUCK ISLAND
SUBDIVISION; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
******M. R-457-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF BOISE, AN AGREEMENT FOR RFP 99-075; OPEN
SP ACE MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR BOISE FOOTHILLS PUBLIC LANDS, BOISE PARKS
AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, BETWEEN THE CITY OF BOSIE CITY AND SPATIAL
DYNAMICS, INC.; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
******N. R-460-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF BOISE, A CONTRACT FOR COMMUNICATION
DISPATCH SERVICES FOR BOISE CITY FlRE DEPARTMENT, BOISE CITY, TO ADA
COUNTY; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
A. Public Hearing: CAR99-0034/ Annexation/Boise City is requesting the annexation of approximately
2,782 acres located to the west and south of existing City Limits. The area is bordered generally by
City Limits on the north and east, by the Area of Impact boundary on the west, and by Overland Road
on the south.
NEW BUSINESS:
NO SUBDIVISIONS SCHEDULED
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PRE-COUNCIL MINUTES
OCTOBER 5,1999
The following Council members were present: BAKE~ HAUSRATH, MAPP, TERTELING and
WETHERELL. Absent: FORNEY.
Mayor COLES announced that this was the time and place for the Pre-Council meeting.
RECONSIDERATION DISCUSSION ON CARTWRIGHT CANYON SUBDIVISION
Councilmember TERTELING addressed Council regarding the motion and substitute motion of
Cartwright Canyon Subdivision from the September 28, 1999 City Council meeting.
UPDATE ON DOWNTOWN FOOT PATROL
Chief Larry Paulson and Sgt. Rich Schnebly, Boise Police Department and Jim Dumont, Parks and
Recreation Department, updated Council on the Downtown Foot Patrol.
SECURE PRESENT ATrON
Chief Larry Paulson and Captain Prynch, Boise Police Department, presented to the Council the
SECURE presentation.
MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING (MOD) WITH ADA COUNTY
Alec Andrus? Division of Financial Management, updated Council on some changes that Ada County
wanted to the Memorandum ofUnrlerstanding of resolution 15642 approved on September 28, 1999.
EXECUTIVE SESSION
Moved by TERTELING and seconded by HAUSRATH to move into Executive Session in
accordance with Idaho Code 67-2345(1)(c) for the purposes of discussing labor negotiations.
Roll call on the motion resulted as follows: YEAS: BAKE~ FORNEY, HAUSRATH, MAPP and
TERTELING. NAYS: WETHERELL.
Motion carried.
Moved by TERTELING and seconded by WETHERELL to move into Executive Session in
accordance with Idaho Code 67-2345(1)(t) for the purposes of discussing pending litigation.
Roll call on the motion resulted as follows: YEAS: BAKE~ FORNEY, HAUSRATR MAPP,
TERTELING and WETHERELL.
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Motion carried.
Moved by TERTELING and seconded by BAKER to move into the regularly scheduled Pre-Council
meetil1g.
Roll call on the motion resulted as follows: YEAS: BAKER FORNEY, HAUSRATH, MAPP,
TERTELING and WETHERELL.
Motion carried.
There being no further business the meeting adjourned.
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NOTICE OF PRE-COUNCIL MEETING
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of Meridian
will hold a Pre-Council Meeting at City Hall, 33 East Idaho, Meridian, Idaho, on
Tuesday, October 19, 1999 at 6:45 P.M. The Meridian City Council will discuss
agenda items on the regular City Council meeting.
The public is welcome to attend.
DATED this 15th day of October, 1999
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1st - 2nd - 3rd Tuesday of the Month - 7:30 P.M.
Fourth Tuesday of the Nlonth - 12 noon
150 North Capitol Blvd.
City Hall- 3rd Floor - Les Bois Room
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BRENT COLES
Cln~ COlJNCIL rvrEI\tIBERS
* CAROL YN TERTELING - Council President
*MIKE WETHERELL - President Pro Tern
* SARA BAKER
*P AULA FORNEY
*ANNEHAUSRATH
* JERONIE MAPP
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5: 00 P.M. Parks Discussion: Jim Hall, Parks and Recreation Department
5:30 P.M. Area of Impact Boundary Adjustment: Scott Spjute, Planning and Development Services
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6:00 P.M. Executive Session: Labor Negotiations, I.C. 67-2345(1)(c)
7:00 P.M. Pre-Consent Agenda (see attached) and Dinner
PRE-CONSENT ~~'GEND..\:
****Items scheduled on Pre-Consent and Consent Agendas.
i\-'J ISCELL..-\NEOlTS Bt~Sl~ESS:
* A. BidlRFP: Approval of Payment of Reimbursable Expenditures for Operation of The Grove Street
Parking Garage, Parking Control
*B. BidIRFP: Award of Contract, Approval of Agreement Number aQ-Con-03: Contract for Audit
Services, Division of Financial Management
******C. BidIRFP: Approval of Contract for Communication Dispatch Services, Boise Fire
Department
******D. BidIRFP: RFP 99-075: Foothills Open Space Management Plan, Boise Parks and
Recreation Department
*E. The City Clerk requests the following claims(s) be received and referred to the office of the
Treasurer:
a) Carissa M. Thornock, Property Damage
******F. The City Clerk requests the following public hearing be scheduled in Council Chambers on
November 9, 1999:
a) CAR99-00048/Charlie Anderson requests a development agreement approved under RZ-23-93/DA.
The modification would change the use restrictions in the development agreement to allow an
application to be processed for a planned residential development on 13.0 acres located at 8565 W.
Fairview Avenue in a C-2D/DA (General Commercial with Design Review and a Development
Agreement) zone. .
b) CAROO-00045/Capitol City Development Company requests approval of a rezone of approximately
1/8 acre from H-SD (Health Service with Design Review) to C-2D (General Commercial with Design
Review) at 910 N. Raymond Street.
******G. The City Clerk requests the following public hearing be scheduled in Council Chambers on
November 16, 1999:
a) CAR99-00018/DA/Bruce and Steve Murdoch requests approval ofa rezone of 4.9 acres of
property from R-l C (Single Family Residential) to L-OD (Limited Office with Design Review) with a
Development Agreement at 13131 W. McMillan Road. CAR99-00018 was remanded by the Boise
City Council to the Boise City Planning and Zoning Commission to consider the rezone with a
Development Agreement that ties the rezone request to an office park development. The Boise City
Planning and Zoning Commission previously recommended approval of the rezone request w~thout a
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Development Agreement on May 3, 1999.
*H. The City Clerk requests the following minutes and reports be received by Council and directed
filed in the office of the City Clerk:
a) City of Boise Treasury Division, State of the Treasury Report, September 1999
b) Boise City Planning and Zoning Commission Minutes, September 13, 1999
c) Boise City Building Construction Report, Calendar Report, Jan.-Sept. 1999
d) Boise City Building Construction Report, Fiscal Report, Oct. -Sept. 1999
e) Boise City Building Construction Report, September 1999
ORDlN~-\:,,[CES ~-\ND RESOLl~TIONS:
*A. 0-62-99 AN ORDINANCE (CAR99-0033/ANlERICAN INSTITUTE OF HEALTH
TECHNOLOGY FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1200 N. LIBERTY ROAD) ANlENDING
ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF THE CITY OF BOISE CITY TO CHANGE THE
CLASSIFICATION OF REAL PROPERTY PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION ONE
OF THIS ORDINANCE FROM R-2 (COJ\1BINED RESIDENTIAL) TO L-OD (LIMITED OFFICE
WITH DESIGN REVIEW)~ SETTING FORTH FINDINGS OF FACT IN SUPPORT OF SUCH
ZONE CHANGE; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
*B. R-456-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF BOISE, AN AGREE11ENT FOR 00-CON-03;
AUDITING SERVICES, DIVISION OF FINANCIAL MANAGE11ENT, BETWEEN THE CITY
OF BOISE CITY AND BALUKOFF, LINDSTROM AND CO., P.A.~ AND PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
******C. R-457-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF BOISE, AN AGREE11ENT FOR RFP 99-075; OPEN
SPACE MANAGE11ENT PLAN FOR BOISE FOOTHILLS PUBLIC LANDS, BOISE PARKS
AND RECREATION DEPART11ENT, BETWEEN THE CITY OF BOSIE CITY AND SPATIAL
DYNANlICS, INC.; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
*D. R-458-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE AND ATTEST ON BEHALF OF BOISE CITY A LICENSE AGREE11ENT BY AND
BETWEEN BOISE CITY ACTING THROUGH THE BOISE PARKS AND RECREATION
DEPART11ENT (GRANTOR) AND HORMAE CHE A LIMITED PARTNERSHIP (GRANTEE)
ALLOWING GRANTEE TO DEVELOP AND MAINTAIN SIDEWALKS AND A WATER
FEATURE ON APART OF GRANTOR'S RIGHT-Of-WAY; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
*E. R-459-99 A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE DESIGNATION Of AN EASE11ENT FOR
THE CONSTRUCTION OF CITY SEWER PROJECT DRI 1187 ALONG AND ACROSS LAND
OWNED BY THE CITY OF BOISE AIRPORT; AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY
CLERK TO EXECUTE AND ATTEST SAID DESIGNATION OF EASE11ENT DOCUMENT ON
BEHALF OF BOISE CITY~ AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
******f. R-460-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF BOISE, A CONTRACT FOR CO!v1MUNICATION
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DISPATCH SERVICES FOR BOISE CITY FIRE DEPARTl'vlENT, BOISE CITY, TO ADA
COUNTY; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
*G. R-461-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORlZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF BOISE, ADDENDillII NUMBER 1 TO THE
l\.1ENIORANDillII OF UNDERSTANDING WlTH ADA SOIL CONSER V ATrON DISTRICT FOR
THE WARNI SPRINGS PARK WETLANDS PROJECT, PARKS AND RECREATION
DEPARTNIENT; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
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MINUTES OF THE BOISE CITY PRE-COUNCIL NIEETING, October 5,1999
IvlINUTES OF THE BOISE CITY COUNCIL l\.1EETING, October 5, 1999
SP-ECIL-\.L BlTSINESS:
CONSENT L.\.GEND.~:
* All items with an asterisk(*) are considered to be routine by the Council and will be enacted by one
motion. There will be no separate discussion on these items unless a Council Member or citizen so
requests in which case the item will be removed from the general order of business and considered in
its normal sequence.
The City Clerk recommends approval of the consent agenda items on tonight's agenda: that 7 A thru
7G, 8B thru 8N (inclusive) be considered read in full: that 8A be considered read for the second time
by title; and that proposed resolutions R-437-99, R-447-99, R-448-99, R-449-99, R-450-99, R-451-
99, R-452-99, R-453-99, R-454-99, R-455-99, R-457-99 and R-460-99 be adopted.
lVIISCELL~;\NEOUS BUSINESS:
* A. Request for approval of the Boise City checks nos. 025869 thru 026388 in the total amount of
$1,495,144.51 as of October 6,1999.
******B. BidIRFP: Approval of Contract for Communication Dispatch Services, Boise Fire
Department
******c. BidIRFP: RFP 99-075: Foothills Open Space Management Plan, Boise Parks and
Recreation Department
*D. The City Clerk requests the following claims(s) be received and referred to the office of the
Treasurer:
a) Beverly S. Myles, Personal Injury and Property Damage
******E. The City Clerk requests the following public hearing be scheduled in Council Chambers on
November 9, 1999:
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a) CAR99-00048/Charlie Anderson requests a development agreement approved under RZ-23-93/DA.
The modification would change the use restrictions in the development agreement to allow an
application to be processed for a planned residential development on 13.0 acres located at 8565 W.
Fairview Avenue in a C-2DIDA (General Commercial with Design Review and a Development
Agreement) zone.
b) CAROO-00045/Capitol City Development Company requests approval of a rezone of approximately
1/8 acre from H-SD (Health Service with Design Review) to C-2D (General Commercial with Design
R~view) at 910 N. Raymond Street.
******F. The City Clerk requests the following public hearing be scheduled in Council Chambers on
November 16, 1999:
a) CAR99-00018/DA/Bruce and Steve Murdoch requests approval of a rezone of 4.9 acres of
property from R-I C (Single Family Residential) to L-OD (Limited Office with Design Review) with a
Development Agreement at 13131 W. McMillan Road. CAR99-00018 was remanded by the Boise
City Council to the Boise City Planning and Zoning Commission to consider the rezone with a
Development Agreement that ties the rezone request to an office park development. The Boise City
Planning and Zoning Commission previously recommended approval of the rezone request without a
Development Agreement on May 3, 1999.
*G. The City Clerk requests the following minutes and reports be received by Council and directed
filed in the office of the City Clerk:
a) Ada County Highway District Commission Minutes, September 8, 1999
b) City of Boise Treasury Division, State of the Treasury Report, Revised July 1999 and August 1999
c) Boise City Planning and Zoning Commission Minutes, August 30, 1999
d) Quarterly Treasurer's Report, January 1 - March 31, 1999
ORDrN~--\NCES AND RESOLUTIONS:
* A. 0-60-99 SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE (CAR99-0030/DARRELL AND
CHRISTINE WILSON FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3318 NORTH COLE ROAD)
AMENDING ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS OF THE CITY OF BOISE CITY TO CHANGE THE
CLASSIFICATION OF REAL PROPERTY PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION ONE
OF THIS ORDINANCE FROM R-IC (SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL) TO L-OD (LTh1ITED
OFFICE WITH DESIGN REVIEW); SETTING FORTH FINDINGS OF FACT IN SUPPORT OF
SUCH ZONE CHANGE; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
*B. 0-61-99 FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE (CAR99-0025Irv1ICRON TECHNOLOGY,
INC. FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 8000 S. FEDERAL WAY) AMENDING ZONING
CLASSIFICATION OF THE CITY OF BOISE CITY TO CHANGE THE CLASSIFICATION OF
REAL PROPERTY P ART I CULARL Y DESCRIBED IN SECTION ONE OF THIS ORDINANCE
FROM T -lD (TECHNOLOGICAL-INDUSTRIAL PARK WITH DESIGN REVIEW) TO T -2D
(TECHNOLOGICAL-MANUF ACTURING PARK WITH DESIGN REVIEW); SETTING FORTH
FINDINGS OF FACT IN SUPPORT OF SUCH ZONE CHANGE; AND PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
*C. R-437-99 A RESOLUTION APPROVING A ONE (1) YEAR AVIATION LAND LEASE
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BETWEEN BOISE CITY AND UNITED STATES OF AMERIC~ ACTING THROUGH THE
FEDE_R..A.L AVIATION ADNllNISTRA.TION, FOR THE LEASE OF CERTAIN PRENIISES UPON
BOISE AIR TERNIINAL (GOWEN FIELD); AUTHORIZING THE NIA YOR AND CITY CLERK
TO EXECUTE ..J\ND ATTEST SAID AGREEi\1ENT; AND PROVIDING Al'f EFFECTIVE DATE.
*D. R-447-99 A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN AGREEi\1ENT OF LEASE BETWEEN BOISE
CITY A..1'ID MCDAN L.L.C. FOR THE LEASE OF PROPERTY UPON BOISE AIR TERMINAL
(GOWEN FIELD); AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE AND
ATTEST SAID AGREENIENT; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
*E. R-448-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE lYIA YOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF BOISE, TASK ORDER NUNIBER ONE TO RFP 99-
050J; ~lISCELLANEOUS LEGAL SERVICES, LEGAL DIVISION, BETWEEN THE CITY OF
BOISE CITY AND JAMES J. DAVIS; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
*F. R-449-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF BOISE, TASK ORDER NUNIBER ONE TO RFP 99-
050G; MISCELLANEOUS LEGAL SERVICES, LEGAL DIVISION, BETWEEN THE CITY OF
BOISE CITY AND MOORE, BASKIN AND PARKER; AND PROVIDING AN EFFE-CTlVE
DATE.
*G. R-450-99 A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN AGREENlENT OF LEASE "A" BETWEEN
BOISE CITY AND MARTIN-RICO INC. FOR THE LEASE OF PROPERTY UPON BOISE AIR
TERNllNAL (GOWEN FIELD); AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE AND ATTEST SAID AGREENlENT; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
*H. R-45 1-99 A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN AGREENlENT OF LEASE "B" BETWEEN
BOISE CITY AND MARTIN-RICO INC. FOR THE LEASE OF PROPERTY UPON BOISE AIR
TERNllNAL (GOWEN FIELD); AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE AND ATTEST SAID AGREE:rvtENT; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
*1. R-452-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
RESPECTIVELY EXECUTE AND ATTEST A RELEASE AND SATISFACTION OF A SEWER
EXTENSION AGREE:rvtENT WITH KMST, LLD FOR EXTENSION OF SANII AR Y SEWERS
TO OVERLAND MARKET REI AIL CENTER; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
*J. R-453-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE AND ATTEST ON BEHALF OF BOISE CITY A CO:rvt1vIERCIAL/INVESTNlENT
REAL ESTATE PURCHASE AND SALE AGREE:rvtENT BY AND BETWEEN NORV AN L. AND
LEONA C. JENSEN (SELLERS) AND BOISE CITY (BUYER) FOR THE PURCHASE OF
APPROxrMATEL Y SIXTY SIX (66) ACRES OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 9920 LAKE
HAZEL ROAD IN ADA COUNTY IDAHO; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
*K. R-454-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE AND ATTEST ON BEHALF OF BOISE CITY A GREENBELT LICENSE
AGREE:rvtENT BY AND AMONG HARRIS FAMILY RANCH, LLP AND HARRIS/BRIGHTON
LLP (LICENSORS) AND BOISE CITY (LICENSEE) FOR THE PURPOSE OF RELOCATION OF
THE GREENBELT PATHWAY TO ACCOMMODATE CONTINUED GREENBELT ACCESS
AND USAGE OF THE GREENBELT NEAR SQUAW CREEK ROAD DURING HARRIS RANCH
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DEVELOPrvIENT AND UNTIL THE LICENSED PARCEL IS PLATED; Al'IDPROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DA IE.
*L. R-455-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MA YO.R AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE AND ATTEST ON BEHALF OF BOISE CITY AN EASElYlENT AGREEMENT BY
AND BETWEEN NATURES WOOD DUCK IS.LAND HOl\lIEOWNERS' ASSOCIATION, INC.
(GRANTOR) AND BOISE CITY (GRANTEE) TO SUPERCEDE AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT
BY AND ANlONG BOISE CITY, RIVER VIE\V VENTURES AND WOOD DUCK ISLAND
HOlYIEOWNERS' ASSOCIATION FOR THE USE Ai'ID MAINTENANCE OF THE
PEDESTRIANIBICYCLE PATHWAY LOCATED IN NATURES WOOD DUCK ISLAL'ID
SUBDIVISION; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
******M. R-457-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF BOISE, AN AGREEMENT FOR RFP 99-075; OPEN
SPACE MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR BOISE FOOTHlLLS PUBLIC LANDS, BOISE PARKS
AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, BETWEEN THE CITY OF BOSIE CITY AND SPATIAL
DYNANllCS, INC.; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
******N. R-460-99 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE lYIA YOR AND CITY CLERK TO
EXECUTE, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF BOISE, A CONTRACT FOR COlYWUNICATION
DISPATCH SERVICES FOR BOISE CITY FIRE DEPARTNIENT, BOISE CITY, TO ADA
COUNTY; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
{JNFINISHED BIJSINESS:
A. Public Hearing: CAR99-0034/ AnnexationIBoise City is requesting the annexation of approximately
2,782 acres located to the west and south of existing City Limits. The area is bordered generally by
City Limits on the north and east, by the Area of Impact boundary on the west, and by Overland Road
on the south.
-NE"'i BUSINESS:
NO SUBDMSIONS SCHEDULED
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