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AGENDA
MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
DECEMBER 15, 1992
ITEM:
MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS IvffiErING HELD DECEMBER 1, 1992: (APPROVED)
1 : PUBLIC HEARING: TRANSFER OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AT OID IMTERMEDIATE SrnOOL
FRCM ALIDJANI & BLAIR (FAMILY WORSHIP Cll'ITER) TO ALIDJANJ: & BARKLEY (APOS'IOLIC
BIBLE CHURC:H): (APPROVED) -
2: PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PIAT ON FAmvEST SUBDIVISION: (APPROVED)
3: PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PIAT ON 1-84 BUSINESS PARK: (APPROVED)
4: APPROVE BEER, WINE & LIQUOR LICENSES REl.'JEWAI.S FOR 1993: (APPROVED)
5: D.L. JOHN"SON & BEST WESTERN CONCRErE, C~CEffi.JING PROPERTY AT 1580 WEST
OVERLAND ROAD: (DISCUSSION HELD)
6: ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICI': INTERsE:cTION AT EAST FIRST & MERIDIAN ROAD: (PRESENTATION
GIVEN)
7: PATSY FEDRIZZI, MERIDIAN CEt'JTENNIAL: (PRESENTATION GIVEN - APPROVED)
8 : DEPAR'JMENT REPORTS:
MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
DECEMBER 15. 1992
The Regular Meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to
order by Mayor Kingsford at 7:30 P.M.:
Members Present:
Yerrington:
Ron Tolsma,
Bob Giesler, Bob Corrie,
Ma><
Others Present: D. Johnson, Vernon Barkley, Terry Little, Chuck
Fuller, William Hon, Marty Goldsmith, Ronald Thomason, Scott
Ellsworth, E. Dale Ownby, Frank Thomason, Patsy Fedrizzi, Jeff
Fuller, Mark Agenbroad, Wayne Forrey, Gary Smith, Wayne
Crookston, Bill Gordon, William Collins, Dave Roylance, Becky
Bowcutt, Mae Alidjani:
MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING HELD DECEMBER 1, 1992:
The Motion was made by Tolsma and seconded by Yerrington to
approve the minutes of the previous meeting as written:
Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM #1: PUBLIC HEARING: TRANSFER OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AT
OLD INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL FROM ALIDJANI & BLAIR (FAMILY WORSHIP
CENTER) TO ALIDJANI & BARKLEY (APOSTOLIC BIBLE CHURCH):
Kingsford: I will now open the Public Hearing is there a
representative present who wishes to testify first?
Mae Alidjani, 2023 Turnberry, was sworn by the attorney.
Alidjani: I have a gentleman that would like to rent the
cafeteria portion of the old school and also he has indicated to
me that he does have intention of buying that particular piece of
property. At this time all we are looking at is the Conditional
Use Permit which is needed for that particular area for the
church use. Also within that I have a question about the
transfer of some kind of deed in case he's interested to buy.
I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have.
Giesler: Basically the use would be staying the same all around
there would be no real change from what it was before.
Alidjani: No.
Giesler: There would still be plenty of parking and everything.
Alidjani: Yes plenty of parking, there haven't been any changes
at all.
Giesler: The amount of people would be pretty much the same.
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Alidjani: I do not know how many people are going to be there.
The one conversation I had with Pastor Barkley, he was talking
about 25-35 people. I have a letter from the School District
stating they are completely moving out of that premises. He
needs me to, in the future, remove the green barracks.
Kingsford: Should that long time be a church and the buildings
removed I think it would be appropriate that the parking lot be
improved, paved and so forth.
Alidjanil I have no answer at this time, I don't know what Mr.
Barkley has in mind.
Kingsford: Thank you.
Anyone else to testify?
Mark Agenbroad, 1871 Jericho Rd., was sworn by the attorney.
Agenbroad: I'm a member of Valley Bible Fellowship and our only
concern is the parking. We meet in the parking across the street
at 211 E. Carlton and we have the parking lot and we use on
street parking. That was our concern is having two churches
meeting there at similar times but it sounds like they intend to
use parking on the premises.
Giesler: Your concerned about parking on the street itself? We
couldn't guarantee that parking on the street would be used.
Agenbroad: We weren't certain about the parking conditions.
Kingsford: Thank you. Anyone else to testify? No response. I
will close the public hearing.
The Motion was made by Giesler and seconded by Tolsma to approve
of the transfer of the Conditional Use Permit from Alidjani &
Blair to Alidjani and Barkley.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
(DISCUSSION ABOUT SALE OF PROPERTY - SEE TAPE)
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ITEM #2: PUBLIC HEARING:
SUBDIVISION:
PRELIMINARY PLAT ON
FARWEST
Kingsford: I will open the public hearing.
representative present who wishes to testify?
Is there a
Dave Roylance, 4619 Emerald, Boise, was sworn by the attorney.
Roylance: I'm a civil engineer representing the applicant. I've
read the comments from the various agencies and the City of
Meridian and find that we can comply with all the requirements.
If you have any questions I'd be happy to answer them.
Tolsma: The Fire Chief had a question on the fire hydrant at the
end of the subdivision. The fire hydrants are four hundred feet
50 there is more than one.
Roylance: I just guessed, I think I showed tWD on the
preliminary but I realize that when it comes right down to it we
will coordinate with the Fire Department of the e~act locations.
Kingsford: It is my understanding that you stipulated some house
sizes and the types of construction on certain lots.
Roylance: Yes we did. At the Planning & Zoning Meeting there
were some requirements that we agreed to in terms of square
footage of the homes and where those lots would be and those
homes would be on those lots. I forget the particulars but they
are in the minutes of the Planning and Zoning meeting and we do
intend to comply with those.
As it stands, the configuration that you know have with the
culdesac street going in and the culdesac curving and stubbing
out to the east, with the culdesac at the eHtreme east end of the
property that can be pushed through to their project. Further we
have a stub out street to the west.
Kingsford: When you say that can be pushed out to the east, have
they agreed to that at all?
Roylance: Yes that's the location that they show on their
preliminary plat, this information was coordinated with Sportsman
Pointe.
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Corri e: So the
hundred and some
length of
feet?
this
culdesac is
still the
twelve
Kingsford: Well it's not longer a culdesac because you have now
a stub street and we're also looking at a straight going out to
the east too.
Roylance: I think the length of the culdesac would now be
measured from the intersection of the stub out street going to
the west because that can be a through street.
Tolsma: So this culdesac will go back into Sportsman Pointe?
Roylance: Yes it will.
Giesler: So to understand this correctly that will continue into
Sportsman's access then?
Roylance:
Yes. (Explained further)
Giesler: I didn't think their preliminary plat was designed to
be able to hook these two streets up.
Kingsford: I think that's right but what Mr. Roylance is saying
is that as of last week that they plan to do that in their final
plat.
Roylance: That's correct.
Crookston: I think it would be appropriate to have a letter
showing that agreement.
Kingsford:
that.
I think any approval would need to be conditioned on
Roylance: Are we required to provide separate pressurized
irrigation system?
Kingsford: Yes or contribute to the well fund. Anyone else to
testify? No response. I will close the public hearing.
Corrie: On this, since it will not be a culdesac, am I correct
in saying that where this is stubbed out here that's where the
length would start rather than the complete street.
Kingsford:
Right.
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The Motion was made by Tolsma and seconded by Corrie to approve
the preliminary plat on Farwest Subdivision with the condition
that the street connect to Sportsman Pointe Subdivision at such
time Sportsman Pointe Subdivision roads are in the area to access
this subdivision.
Kingsford: Maybe amend that to require them to provide us with a
letter stipulating that they have agreed to that.
Original motion withdrawn and second withdrawn.
The Motion was made by Tolsma and seconded by Corrie to approve
the preliminary plat on Farwest Subdivision conditioned upon the
Engineer providing the City with a letter from Sportsman Pointe
stipulating to access to that subdivision as well as to agreeing
to the provisions as outlined by Planning and Zoning.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM #3:
PARK:
PUBLIC HEARING:
PRELIMINARY PLAT ON 1-84 BUSINESS
Becky Bowcutt,
the attorney.
Briggs Engineering, 1111 S. Orchard, was sworn by
Bowcutt: As you can see from the plat this is a 24 lot
commercial subdivision. We have read through the comments of the
City Engineer and we agree with them. He had a few questions
which I will address. Item #6 concerning the drain pipes - we
will be rerouting the drainage ditch that traverses the property
and we will be piping that; Item #10 he had some questions
concerning the services to lot b, 7 of block 1 and lots 15, 1& of
Block 2 - we will be extending services to those lots, it's not
indicated on the preliminary but we will be; Item #13 concerns
fencing of lots 12-13, block 2 - the request was to provide some
type of access through any fence that's put along that perimeter
so that balls from the baseball diamond could be retrieved and I
have talked to Mr. Hon and he's indicated he believes it's
possible to put that in his protective covenants. The fences
would be placed by whoever decides to purchase a lot and develop
it for commercial purposes; Item #15 basically isn't a request or
standard condition, it just makes a comment concerning the
potential of expanding Storey Park and getting a secondary access
to the park through the subject parcel. Mr. Hon has indicated
that he may consider such request.
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Tolsma: Hasn't there been a ditch road that goes down along that
canal for right of way or access?
Bowcutt: The water-ways that traverse that property do have -
there is easements for those ditches. I don't believe they are
right of ways. Any relocation of any of those ditches must be
approved by Nampa Meridian Irrigation District and we do have to
coordinate with them as far as transferring those easements or
rights of ways and making sure everything is acceptable to them.
Basically we will be dealing with them.
Kingsford: Item #15 that Gary has brought up I think is an
excellent one. I think it would be appropriate to have
additional access there 50 we'd like very much to work to obtain
that.
Bowcutt: I recommend that you talk with Mr. Hon and see if you
guys can work out some type of arrangement. Any other questions?
Kingsford: Thank you. Anyone else to testify? No response. I
will close the public hearing.
The Motion was made by Corrie and seconded by Yerrington to
approve the preliminary plat conditioned upon Item #15 of the
City Engineer's comments be followed up with Mr. Hon to see that
we get that second access into the park.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM #4: APPROVE BEER, WINE & LIQUOR LICENSES RENEWALS FOR 1993:
Chief Gordon: All the applicants for renewals on beer, wine and
liquor licenses in the City of Meridian have met the requirements
with the exception of one establishment and that is the Jilt
Happens Tavern". I would ask that that be set aside until they
meet the requirements of the City of Meridian.
Clerk Niemann:
I also have two that haven't paid.
The Motion was made by Yerrington and seconded by Corrie to
approve renewal of Beer, Wine and Liquor Licenses and to set
aside the one for nIt Happens" and to require payment prior to
approval.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
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DECEMBER 15, 1992
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ITEM #5: D.L. JOHNSON & BEST WESTERN CONCRETE,
PROPERTY AT 1580 WEST OVERLAND ROAD:
CONCERNING
Johnson: How many of you have been out there to eyeball the
situation? Last time I was here I was asked what would make me
happy. Instead of making me happy, I would just as soon take
complete text to Meridian's present Zoning Ordinances for
compliance with other industries of like nature, like Western
Equipment, Arnold Machinery, Coca Cola, Intermountain Equipment,
that Animal Hospital, all landscaped, all set back, all quiet.
You get back to Western States Equipment Co., they do have
equipment up on the road but it's brand new, attractive looking
machinery. In order to get to that go to Page 4 where it just
basically sums it up under Provision II -413C, 300' set back,
reasonable noise abatement at all times and not from six o'clock
in the morning until sunset. (Further E~planation Given - See
tape) - Wants complete compliance with Ordinances.
Kingsford: I think there's no question but what you have every
right to e~pect that and I would recommend to the Council that
they pursue that immediately through legal channels if necessary
to make them comply.
Johnson: How long will this procedure take?
Kingsford: We've been in court on some things and I'll tell you
I can't make any guarantees there but we will be pursuing it from
this moment.
Johnson: We can e~pect to pull his ticket until he's complied?
Kingsford: Whatever we can legally do.
to make any comments on that?
Counselor would you like
Crookston: Certainly we would encourage Best Western to
cooperate. I believe that their Counsel is here, he wanted to
address the City Council. As far as time
Johnson: He's had seven months out there to do something
already.
Crookston: Well the City hasn't had seven months I'm afraid.
Johnson: Well did he sneak in on you?
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DECEMBER 15, 1992
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Crookston: Not to my knowledge, I can't address that but the
first thing we would do is to ask for cooperation and see if we
can get it. If we can't get what's required by Ordinances then
we have to file suit and that is a long process.
Kingsford: If their legal Counsel would like to address the
Council we'd certainly hear that at this point.
Bill COllins, 733 N. 7th, Boise, I represent Best Western
Concrete Products. As I followed the previous comments, they
wanted some luxury scheduled business hours, I don't know where
that is appearing in the Ordinances, I may be wrong on that.
Dust control, we don't think we've caused any more dust than any
farmer would cause plowing his fields. As far as junk vehicles
are concerned, there are facing the Overland Road there is a
flatbed Chev. pickup, it' 5 not junked it is operable the only
problem is is it doesn't have a hood. There's a car that had
been sold to one of the former employees that has two tires that
are flat that's operable other than the tires. There is one
windmill that is laying down and it is facing Overland. As far
as livestock is concerned, it is our understanding that livestock
had been pastured on this property prior to the adoption of the
zoning ordinances and it has just simply been continued. The
adjoining property has been pastured by Mr. Hitt for a number of
years. (Further Explanation - See tape) Would like to do what is
right. In looking at screening I think a 6' high obstruction
would probably work. We would be willing to do something like
that. As far as landscaping is concerned, it didn't appear to us
in the Ordinance that a landscaping requirement was imposed in a
20ning area of this nature. Some portion of the property could
not be fenced along Overland in order to get ingress and egress
to the property. As far as dust control my client has put down
about 400 cubic yards of gravel at this point trying to control
that. Do you have any questions of us?
Yerrington: What hours of the day do you normally operate out
there?
Collins: Typically in the summer it is from eight to five,
however in the summer when they get a lot of orders in it will
start earlier and quite later depending upon the sunlight.
Tolsma:
property?
Is there anybody living in those trailers on the
Collins: There is a caretaker in one of the trailers because of
the prior acts of vandalism.
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Tolsma: I believe that's in violation of the Ordinance too.
Collins: It may be to have someone living there.
Tolsma: Are they hooked on to sanitary sewer?
Collins: There's no sewer out there.
Lohr: We've been threatened and by having someone living there
we are trying to protect our livelihood. I've got no problem
with complying. We are going to comply one time only.
Kingsford: I would suggest that one or two members of the
Council agree to sit down with the owner, legal counsel, and one
or two of the members from the affected neighborhood and work out
a settlement.
Lohr: In the summer we work long hours.
Kingsford: Mr. Tolsma has agreed to do this. The issue of the
livestock we need to resolve too. If they have been there
continuously then grandfather rights would apply, I don't think
that they have been.
Lohr: Oh yes they have, there's never been a time since we've
owned it that something wasn't there.
Kingsford: I mean between the time that you bought it and the
time that we zoned it there have been times that there's not been
livestock there. We'll get that group put together and that's
one of the things you will need to remedy as well.
Lohr: One other thing I'd like to bring up, we took about a
twenty minute tour of the City of Meridian just part of it and
other than the new equipment businesses up on Overland, nothing
is (in-audible) - Businesses that have a lot more equipment and
lots more noise, lots more dust than us are not screened from
residential buildings. I'm having a little bit of trouble
understanding that. We want to comply but I think there's a
little bit of selective enforcement. I want you to understand
that we know that we have a lot of businesses out there that are
a lot further from complying than we are.
(Further Discussion - see tape)
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DECEMBER 15, 1992
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ITEM #&: ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT:
FIRST & MERIDIAN ROAD:
INTERSECTION AT EAST
Terry Little, ACHD Traffic Manager: We had three alternatives
before on the proposed improvements to the intersection of East
1st, Meridian Road, and Waltman Lane. We have had a public
meeting and we've met with your Council once before on it and
ewplained what some of the considerations were. We put together
the public input and looked more closely at some of the technical
issues refining what was the preferred alternative from the last
three. Walt Morrow had brought back from your Council another
idea to consider and we've taken that to a technical analysis and
some considerations on that and it's those two that I want to
present to you tonight. We also have the open house meeting
planned in two days here at City Hall to meet with the public and
go over these concepts and get public input again. We do have an
interim plan to go with the long range plan. I'll have Scott
Ellsworth from CH2M Hill present those to you tonight.
Scott Ellsworth: We have gone back through and revised and
reanalyzed everything.
Kingsford: Did you take into consideration the outlet mall that
is to be going in there?
Ellsworth: That was already in the original count. We did add
the Law Enforcement Complex in this time. Of the three
alternative we have looked and analyzed and we came up with a
concept report and of that the preferred alternative there was
alternative #2 which consisted of a second intersection to the
north of Corporate. After that we took a lot of the comments
from the public and the Council and we have come up with two
other alternatives. We are calling them alternative four and
five. Presented drawing and gave explanation of alternative four
and five. The existing intersection would just be a IITn
intersection with Central but there would not be a connection to
Meridian. Corporate Drive would actually be extended to Meridian
and we're showing here as either this is a collector coming from
the subdivision area over here, it will either be as we're
proposing a possible A or B option here where that might be. It
would connect in with Meridian and actually end up over here at
this Corporate Drive intersection. With that, the traffic
numbers have come up to be pretty substantial numbers.
(E~plained Further - See Tape) -
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Kingsford: Do those two scenario's preclude access
Kentucky Fried Chicken from First Street then? If they
what is the traffic going to be across their parking lot?
to like
do not
Ellsworth: Currently Kentucky Fried has access from Meridian and
to get to Kentucky Fried from East 1st, you'd have to get off of
East First and Corporate and drive down a frontage road basically
to get there. Most of these ideas would not change the access to
E. First for Kentucky Fried.
Kingsford: Any comments from the Council.
Eng. Smith: Are these actually feasible from the standpoint of
obtaining the right of way?
Ellsworth: A lot of public comment that we got when we were
doing these we were showing all these things going through to the
storage and so on, I'm not sure how obtainable that is. We kind
of went back and looked at those to try to avoid some of those
heavily developed - this parcel here is currently for sale.
Giesler: I'm curious to what the response was from the business
people at the end of Meridian Road if you did block that off?
Ellsworth: I'm not sure whether we had comments from the storage
facility but Redlin Photo they were definitely, they did not care
for that. They were basically saying they were not in favor of
any improvements. I think their real reason there was they
wanted the drive by kind of business.
(Discussion - See Tape)
Kingsford:
I think we need to signalize Franklin.
Ellsworth: Do you want me to present this Thursday as City
Council recommended?
Kingsford: Yes that's fine. We're talking a combination,
correct. Thanks very much for coming out.
Ellsworth: I'm not prepared tonight to throw out a strategic
plan to accomplish this but we want to do something for safety
right away but we want it to fit in with the ultimate plan.
We'll have to re-think that with respect to Franklin Road.
(Further on signalization - see tape)
(
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DECEMBER 15, 1992
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ITEM #7: PATSY FEDRIZZI, MERIDIAN CENTENNIAL:
Patsy Fedrizzi: Presented Council with a hand out of scheduled
events for Centennial. What I'm looking for here is some
guidance from you. The Mayor and I met a few months ago when we
were talking about what we were going to do for the Centennial
and one of the things that was included in that is the decoration
of City Hall for the Centennial. However, when he and I talked
about it we thought it would be better to have something that
would have some longevity to it and would just be tastefully done
and that could last for many years. Explained cover letter
presented to Council. Walt Morrow has agreed to build a display
case to be put outside in the entry way of City Hall to the left
of the Chambers. Also have donated labor for the glass and the
mirror for this case. Then as you go into the offices on the
right, we wanted to put a grandfather clock. Jim Ryan has agreed
to build us a grandfather clock and donate that and we would just
have to pay shipping to get it here. It would be a couple
hundred dollars for that. So what I've attached on the second
page is a wish list for City Hall. There would be a padded bench
in the entry way and framed historical black and white photo's
that would go on the walls down the hallway. Then in the back of
the Council Chambers here if you can envision there would be sofa
tables, a winged back chair on either side with some silk trees
and greens to warm it up a little bit. In the hallway, it just a
couple of places, putting some carpeting and rugs down. Then the
Mayor's pictures hung. Explained murial to be placed behind
Council on the wall. Our deadline to have all this done, if you
approve it is March 30, 1993.
Kingsford:
program.
I would recommend that we go ahead and endorse this
Fedrizzi: The pop machine should be moved.
Kingsford: Almost everyone that buys pop from that are people
that go into the licensing department. I wonder if we couldn't
put it in the licensing department.
<Discussion - see tape)
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Fedrizzi: This says, ask the City Council to authorize applying
for a tree grant which we are going to work on Thursday morning
and the deadline is Friday morning, subject to approval by the
committee.
The Motion was made by Corrie and seconded by Giesler to apply
for the tree grant.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
The Motion was made by Corrie and seconded by Yerrington to
approve Patsy's presentation.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM #8: DEPARTMENT REPORTS:
Walt Morrow: We are having our annual Transportation Meeting on
January 11, 1993 at 7:00.
Kingsford: Thank you.
Wayne Forrey: I have two items. The hearing Patsy talked about
the Capital Improvement Budget it made me kind of mad about the
letter you received from the Department of Commerce, the Planning
Grant. Meridian is the fastest growing City in Idaho, those
grants are oriented to high growth communities and the State
sends back a letter and says well you've got planning capability
in the community. They assumed, erroneously I believe, because
you are growing so fast, the State assumed that one person
couldn't handle it which is really a compliment to Jack. Also
they assumed that APA was here providing a lot of assistance. I
spoke to the State and clarified that there was just the City
Clerk and Zoning Administrator which was one person and that APA
was really just doing Transportation Planning only, Jan was a
little embarrassed and felt that if the Mayor and Council wanted
to clarify we' 11 take another look at it. If that planning grant
was issued it might free up a little money that you've set aside
for planning and perhaps you could shift it into your capital
improvement fund to help the Centennial effort. Just a thought.
Kingsford:
If you would maybe help us a letter to send to them.
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For~ay: Second issue, I have talked with Ma~ Boesiger and
several property owners out on Monaco Way regarding that ditch.
We have developed a letter and a petition and your welcome to
read it. If you approve of this letter and petition I think we
should get that out. I've got a couple of ladies that will go
door to door with that petition. We've given them a deadline
here of January 4, 1992.
The Motion was made by Yerrington and seconded by Corrie to
authorize the Mayor to review the draft letter and petition on a
LID for the ditch.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
Yerrington: I was told tonight that Mr.
anniversary tonight.
Corrie has a wedding
Corrie: Thank you, thirty five years today.
The Motion was made by Corrie and seconded by Tolsma to adjourn
at 9: 15 P. M. :
Motion Carried: All Yea:
(TAPE ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS)
APPROVED:
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T P. KINGSFO D, Y R
ATTEST:
December 15, 1992
TO: Mr. Grant Kingsford, Mayor
Members of The Meridian City Council
Thank you for the letter dated December 1, 1992 from City Attorney
Wayne G. Crookston, Jr. responding to the questions raised in my
letter dated November 4, 1992 concerning the property located at
1580 W. Overland Road, Meridian.
However, the information provided in Mr. Crookston's letter
reinforces the fact that Western Concrete Products is not in
compliance with a variety of ordinances as set forth by the city of
Meridian. It is this non-compliance that we object to and the lack
of any action on the City's part to rectify the situation.
We objected to the property being annexed and rezoned Light
Industrial in 1980 (to no avail) for reasons that are obvious today
- a noisy, dirty industry moved onto the property that not only
negatively affects the quality of life we have enjoyed for over 20
years, but adversely impacts our property values.
Under the definition of tllndustrialU as defined at 11-2-403 B, the
raising of livestock is excluded.
The Overland Road side of this property is used for the
manufacture of concrete products, while the Freeway side of
the property is used for horse/mule pasture. Additionally, a
section of Linder Road has been fenced off and is now included
in this pasture area. Is this allowable under the Industrial
zoning?
While we certainly realize that the City of Meridian cannot dictate
business hours, under 2-413 B 1 c. PROVISIONS FOR COMMERCIAL AND
INDUSTRIAL USES l~oise: Objectionable noise vlhich is due to
volume, frequency, or beat shall be muffled or otherwise
controlled.
It is certainly not within acceptable limits for neighboring
residents to be subjected to continuous excessive noise from
hammering (metal on metal), heavy machinery, ready-mix trucks,
flat bed trucks, fork lifts, loaders, etc. beginning as early
as 6:00 a.m. in the summer months and continuing through until
nightfall (as late as 9:30 p.m. during the summer). Is it not
reasonable to expect that such noise be muffled or otherwise
controlled - at least during those early morning and late
evening hours?
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December 15, 1992
TO: Mr. Grant Kingsford, Mayor
Members of The Meridian City Council
2-413 B 1 e. PROVISIONS FOR COI111ERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES - Air
Pollution: Air pollution shall be subject to the requirements and
regulations established by the Health Authorities:
Since we were not provided with the requirements and
regulations established by the Health Authorities, vle can only
raise an objection to the excessive dust generated by the
activities of Best Western Concrete, which made it impossible
to open windows or enjoy outdoor activities this past summer.
Shouldn't an effort to reduce dust pollution be made by the
owners of the property - i.e. paving of the work area or at
the very least continuous watering?
Mr. Crookston's letter indicated that although the land use is not
as a contractor's yard as defined by the Ordinance, Section 11-2-
413 C. 6, relating to contractor's yards provides some guidance for
c ri te ria \vh ich obv i ous 1 y has not been me t by Be st ~ie ste rn
Concrete Products, as follows:
1. "It requires that the yard be located 300 feet from any
residence and a screening fence.tI
Inspection of the property in question will show you that the
manufacture of concrete products is done haphazardously all
over the property and this activity is not only being
conducted within 300 feet of a residence, but is certainly not
screened from vie\v. What is being done to enforce this
ordinance?
2. " Additionally, subsection 12 of that section relating to
outdoor storage of commercial and industrial materials also
provides guidance. It requires that it be screened from view from
adjoining residences or residentially zoned property."
Again, inspection of the property in question will show you
that the concrete product being manufactured is stacked
haphazardly around the property, specifically along Overland
Road directly in front of our home and is NOT screened from
view. Again, what is being done?
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December 15, 1992
TO: Mr. Grant Kingsford, Mayor
Members of The Meridian City Council
3. "Additionally, if Best Western erects a structure or
building, it will be required to meet the off-street parking and
loading provisions of the zoning ordinance. Some of the
requirements of this ordinance require paving, landscaping,
lighting and screening."
Best \1estern Concrete Products has erected t'tV'o buildings,
neither of which has any paved areas, landscaping, lighting or
screening. Why no compliance?
Another issue vlould be parts of junked vehicles \vhich are
beginning to accumulate on the property - currently a pickup
box has been dumped on the Linder Road right-of-way, another
pickup was hauled in by flat bed and towed to the crest of the
hill on the property where it remains today, two rusty
vlindmills are laying on the ground in front of the office
building next to Overland Road - none of which is screened
from view. Is this property now to~signated a junkyard?
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l-fr. Crookston's letter stated that "It is not permissible to live
on industrial zoned property. If there are employees or residents
actually living there the City will attempt to ascertain that and
take appropriate action".
Since, we know for a fact (through daily personal observation)
that people were living on the property in two travel trailers
located at the crest of the hill near the pump house on this
property adjacent to Linder Road up until the time l'-fr.
Crookston sent a copy of his December 1st reply to us to Best
vIe s te rn, ~'lhat If appropri ate ac t ion If has the City taken in th is
regard? (A light in one of the trailers was again observed
early Saturday morning, December 12, 1992.)
Mr. Crookston's letter also stated that there has been some contact
between Mr. Jack Niemann, Best Western, Best Western's attorney and
Mr. Crookston 1 inc 1 ud ing a demand let te r f rom the C i t Y C oune i 1
regarding the property. During this exchange, Best Western
indicated they wanted to do something about screening the area but
vlanted to knOt"l \\That was going to satisfy the property Ovlners
namely us.
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December 15, 1992
TO: Mr. Grant Kingsford, Mayor
Members of The Meridian City Council
Obviously vlhat tvould satisfy us, as property o\Vners, is total
compliance with ALL Meridian City Ordinances so that our property
values and quali ty of life are not adversely impacted. For
example:
The 300 foot distance from residences and screening
requirement for a contractor's yard, both for the
manufacturing of the concrete products and storage of finished
inventory.
Re asonab Ie no i se abatement at all time s , but spec i f i call y
during early morning (6:00 a.m.) and evening (after 6:00 p.m.)
family hours.
Control of dust at all times.
Paving, landscaping, screening and removal of junked vehicles,
~vindmi 11 S 0 r any othe r non -e s senti al debr is to make the
property an attractive and desirable neighbor.
Compliance with Industrial Ordinances pertaining to people
living on the property and the raising of livestock.
Compliance with ALL Meridian City Ordinances, whether
addressed in this letter, previous letters, future letters,
past or future phone calls f previous or future personal
contact.
Western Equipment Company, Arnold Machinery, the Baptist Church,
Coca Cola, Intermountain Equipment and Internmountain Animal
Hospital are all clean, quiet and attractive commercial endeavors.
We ask only that Best Western Concrete Products meet the standards
set by these companies.
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D. L. Johnson
1435 W. Overland Road
Meridian, Idaho 83642
888-3707
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December 1, 1992
Mr. Jack Niemann, City Clerk
City of Meridian
33 East Idaho Avenue
Meridian, Idaho 83642
Dear Mr. Niemann:
I would like the opportunity to address the City Council at its
next meeting on Tuesday, December 15, 1992, concerning the property
located at 1580 West Overland Road, Meridian, Idaho.
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D. L. ohnson
1435 W. Overland Road
Meridian, Idaho 83642
Ph. 888-3707
WESTBERG, McCABE & COLLINS
CHARTERED
ATTORNEYS & COUNSELORS AT LAW
733 NORTH SEVENTH STREET
P.O. BOX 2836
BOISE, IDAHO 83701-2836
PAUL L. WESTBERG
THOMAS J. McCABE
WILLIAM D. COLLINS
December 9, 1992
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Mr. Jack Niemann
City Clerk
city of Meridian
33 East Idaho
Meridian, ID 83642
Dear Mr. Niemann:
As you know, I represent Best Western Concrete Products, Inc. My
client owns land between Overland Road and the Interstate at 1580
Overland Road.
It is my understanding that Mr. Johnson and Mr. Andrews who own
property at 1435 and 1575 Overland, respectively, have asked to
appear before the city Council this coming Tuesday, December 15,
1992, regarding complaints they have with respect to my client's
use of its property.
I would like you to place some time on the City Council's agenda
for that same day for me to appear along with a representative of
my client regarding those complaints.
Very truly yours,
G, McCABE & COLLINS, Ctd.
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Wayne Crookston, Jr.
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WAYNE O. CHOOK..C;-IDN, JR.. PA.
WII.IJAM J. SCIIWAR'I-Z
JOliN O. FfrzGERALD II., P A.
TELEPHONE (208) 888-4461
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1435 W. Overland Road
Meridian, Idaho 83642
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Dennis K. Andrews
1575 W. Overland Road
Meridian, Road 83642
Re: Best Western Concrete Products
Dear Mr. Johnson and Mr. Andrews:
Pursuant to the direction of the Meridian City Council made
Tuesday, November 17, 1992, this letter is written in my capacity
as Meridian City attorney to respond to your letter dated November
4, 1992.
I will address your questions as numbered in the letter.
1. The answer to your question numbered one is: Yes, it 15
correct. The property is zoned (I.L.) Light Industrial and was so
zoned at the time of annexation of the property in 1980. There is
no requirement under the ordinances of the City of Meridian to
notify adjacent property owners within 300 feet of the start-up of
a business. Property owners within 300 feet of the parcel were
notified of the annexation and zoning when it was being processed.
The City records reflect that Mr. Johnson appeared at both the
Planning and Zoning Commission hearing and the hearing before the
City Council when the annexation was being considered. The City
records also reflect that a statement was given that Dennis Andrews
also apposed the annexation. The records do not reflect whether
that statement was made by you, Mr. Andrews, or just on your
behalf.
2. "Industrial" is defined at 11-2-403 B. as follows:
"The manufacture, processing and testing of goods and
materials, including the production of power. It does not
refer to the growing of agricultural crops, or the raising of
livestock, or the extraction or severance of raw materials
from the land being classified, but it does include activities
incidental thereto."
The property is zoned as Light Industrial which is defined in
11-2-408 B. 12 as follows:
(I-L) Light Industrial: The purpose of the (I-L) District is
to provide for light industrial development and opportunities
for employment of Meridian citizens and area residents and
reduce the need to commute to neighboring cities; to encourage
the development of manufacturing and wholesale establishments
which are clean, quiet, and free of hazardous or objectionable
elements, such as noise, odor, dust, smoke or glare and that
are operated entirely or almost entirely within enclosed
structures; to delineate areas best suited for industrial
development because of location, topography, existing
facilities and relationship to other land uses. This district
must also be in such proximity to insure connection to the
Municipal Water and Sewer systems of the City of Meridian.
Uses incompatible with light industry are not permitted, and
strip development is prohibited.
It is important to note that under the listing of Industrial
in 11-2-409 C, which lists the permitted uses in the Industrial
District, asphalt and concrete uses and businesses are permitted
uses in the Industrial District. Since the listed uses are more
definitive than the general guide line set forth under Light
Industrial it would control.
It is of concern that the listed permitted uses may involve
uses that do not fall neatly under the Light Industrial guideline
as noted in 11-2-408 B. 12. They are, however, permitted uses and
must be allowed so long as they meet the other ordinance
requirements.
The criteria that they must follow is that they must generally
meet the ordinances of the City of Meridian. In regard to the
specifics of certain commercial and industrial uses they are
generally guided by 11-2-413 B. Under that section it states in
part as follows: It. . . any use permitted by this ordinance may be
undertaken and maintained if acceptable measures and safeguards to
reduce dangerous and objectionable conditions to acceptable limits
" The section goes on to list performance requirements. I
have enclosed a copy of these provisions for your information.
While the use of the land by Best Western Concrete Products
is not a contractor's yard as defined by the Ordinance, Section 11-
2-413 C. 6., relating to contractor's yards provides some guidance
for criteria. It requires the yard be located 300 feet from any
residence and a screening fence. Additionally, subsection 12 of
that section relating to outdoor storage of commercial and
industrial materials also provides guidance. It requires that it
be screened from view from adjoining residences or residentially
zoned property.
Additionally, if Best Western erects a structure or building,
it will be required to meet the off-street parking and loading
provisions of the zoning ordinance. Some of the requirements of
this ordinance require paving, landscaping, lighting and screening.
3. It 18 the policy of the City of Meridian that any
resident, commercial or industrial use must meet the requirements
of the Meridian Ordinances regardless of who is effected by the
failure to meet those ordinances. It would not matter if you were
in the city limits or outside of the city limits. The fact that
you are in the area of impact is not determinative of whether a
business inside the city limits must meet the ordinances.
Regarding whether you have the right to express your concerns
prior to zoning or start up of business, you definitely have that
right prior to zoning. You, or a representative, did appear at the
hearings held on the annexation and zoning of the property. Under
the Meridian Ordinances you are not required to be notified of the
start up of a business. This is the case if you were in, and a
resident of, the city limits.
4. Generally a proposed business is not required to submit
architect~ral drawings or a prospectus showing intent to comply
with ,zonlng rules and regulations if the property where the
business is to locate is zoned for that type of business. If they
had provided such information to the city if would be public
information. I am not aware that any such documents exist at the
City Hall.
Regarding building permits, a new business is not required to
obtain a building permit unless they are going to construct a
building or place one on the property. I have called the building
inspector and he has informed me that Best Western Concrete
Products has obtained the necessary building and foundation permits
for the construction that it has undertaken on the property.
5. It is not permissible to live on industrial zoned
property. If there are employees or residents actually living
there the City will attempt to ascertain that and take appropriate
action.
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6. The provisions of Section 11-2-413 B. which I have
enclosed answer the questions that you have raised in question
number 6 to a certain extent. other than these provision there is
no restriction on the hours of operation if the business is meeting
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the requirements of section 11-2-413 B.
7. To the City of Meridian I s knowledge, there was no
environmental impact study done on this business prior to
commencement of business. The ordinances of the City do not
require such a study to be completed. If there is a water quality
problem this would be addressed by the Department of Water
Resources or the Department of Health and Welfare.
8 . Jack Niemann, the Zoning Administrator, did send a letter
to Sam Lohr of Best Western Concrete Products on September 2, 1992.
Mr. Niemann was contacted by the attorney for Best Western, William
Collins, and they had at least one discussion regarding the
property. There apparently was a misunderstanding as to who was
supposed to get back to who. In any even no action was noted on
behalf of Best Western and the Ci ty Council had me send Best
Western a demand letter, which I did. I received a telephone call
from Mr. Williams and we discussed the situation. He indicated to
me that he understood that Best Western wanted to do something
about screening the area but desired to know what was going to
satisfy the property owners. That is why I asked you the questions
I did at the last City Council meeting regarding what you felt
would solve the situation. To date I have not had a subsequent
discussion with Mr. Williams because it has not been determined
what is the best way to resolve your concerns.
The city is very much interested in seeing that its ordinances
are complied with and will endeavor to work with you and Best
Western Concrete Products to see that the ordinances are complied
with.
I am forwarding a copy of this letter to Willianl Collins, Best
Western Concrete Products attorney so that he is also aware of my
comments and some of the ordinance requirements.
Very truly yours,
~a;r:~~KS~
City Attorney, City of Meridian
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Enclosures
pc: William Collins
Jack Niemann, Zoning Administrator