HomeMy WebLinkAbout2026-05-07 Meridian Planning and Zoning Meeting May 7, 2025.
Meeting of the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission of May 7, 2026, was called to
order at 6:03 p.m. by Chairman Maria Lorcher.
Members Present: Commissioner Maria Lorcher, Commissioner Jared Smith,
Commissioner Jessica Perreault, Commissioner Dom Gelsomino and Commissioner
Matthew Stoll.
Members Absent: Commissioner Matt Sandoval.
Others Present: Tina Lomeli, Kurt Starman, Bill Parsons, Linda Ritter, Carl Anderson
and Dean Willis.
ROLL-CALL ATTENDANCE
(Vacant) X Jessica Perrault
Matthew Sandoval X Matthew Stoll
_X Sam Rust X Jared Smith
X Maria Lorcher - Chairman
Lorcher: Good evening. Welcome to tonight's Planning and Zoning Commission
meeting for May 7th. At this time I would like to call the meeting to order. The
commissioners who are present tonight for this meetings -- evening's meeting are here
at City Hall. We also have staff from the city clerk -- city attorneys and the city clerk's
department, as well as the city's planning department. If you are joining us on Zoom
this evening we can see that you are here. However, your observe -- you may observe
the meeting, however, your ability to be seen on screen and talk will be muted. During
the public testimony portion of the meeting you will be unmuted and, then, be able to
comment. Please note that we cannot take comments until the public testimony portion
of the meeting. If you have got a process question during the meeting please e-mail
cityclerk@meridiancity.org and they will reply as soon as they can. If you simply want to
watch the meeting we encourage you to watch it on our city's YouTube channel and you
can stream that at meridian city.org/live. With that we will begin with roll call. Madam
Clerk.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
Lorcher: The first item on the agenda is the adoption of the agenda. There are no
changes to tonight's agenda. Could I get a motion to adopt tonight's agenda?
Stoll: Move to approve as presented.
Gelsomino: Seconded.
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Lorcher: It's been moved and seconded to approve tonight's agenda. All those in favor
say aye. Any opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
CONSENT AGENDA [Action Item]
1. Approve Minutes of the April 16, 2026 Planning and Zoning
Commission Meeting
Lorcher: The next item on the agenda is the Consent Agenda, which are to approve the
minutes of the Planning and Zoning meeting from April 16th. Could I get a motion to
accept the Consent Agenda as presented?
Smith: So moved.
Gelsomino: Seconded.
Lorcher: It's been moved and seconded to present -- or to accept the Consent Agenda.
All those in favor say aye. Any opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
ITEMS MOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA [Action Item]
Lorcher: At this time I would briefly like to explain the public hearing process. We will
open each item individually and begin with the staff report. Staff will report their findings
on how the item adheres to our Comprehensive Plan and our Unified Development
Code. After staff has made their presentation the applicant will come forward to present
their case and respond to staff's comments. They will have 15 minutes to do so. After
the applicant has finished we will open the floor to public testimony. Each person will be
called only once during public testimony. The clerk will call the names individually for
those who have signed up in advance on our website. You may come to the
microphones in Chambers or you will be unmuted in Zoom. Please state your name
and address for the record. You will have three minutes to address the Commission. If
you have previously sent pictures or a presentation for the meeting it will be displayed
on our screen and our city clerk will help you run the presentation. If you have
established that you are speaking on behalf of a larger group, like an HOA, where
others from that group will allow you to speak on your behalf -- on their behalf, you will
have up to ten minutes. After all those who have signed up in advance have spoken we
will invite any other people on Zoom or in Chambers to testify. You may press the raise
hand button on Zoom, you may come to the microphone in Chambers, or if you are on a
telephone please press star nine and wait for your name to be called. If you are
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those extra devices so we do not experience feedback and we can hear you clearly.
When you have finished if the Commission does not have questions for you you will
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return to your seat in Chambers or be muted on Zoom and no longer have the ability to
speak. And remember we will not call upon you a second time. After all testimony has
been heard the applicant will be given another ten minutes to come back and to
respond to public comments. When the applicant has finished responding to questions
and concerns we will close the public hearing. The Commissioners will have an
opportunity to discuss and, hopefully, make final decisions or recommendations to City
Council as needed.
ACTION ITEMS
2. Public Hearing for Ustick Commercial (H-2025-0059 & H-2026-0007)
by Hawkins Companies, located at 5900 W. Ustick Rd.
A. Request: Comprehensive Plan Map Amendment to change the
Future Land Use Map designation on 4 acres of land from Medium
Density Residential to Commercial (H-2025-0059).
B. Request: Annexation of 4.31 acres of land with a C-C zoning
district. (H-2026-0007)
C. Request: Preliminary Plat consisting of four (4) building lots on 4
acres of land in the C-C zoning district for Ustick Subdivision (H-
2026-0007)
Lorcher: The first item on the agenda is Item 2026-0007, Ustick Commercial at 5900
West Ustick Road for annexation, preliminary plat and a Comprehensive Plan
amendment. I spoke with our city attorney today, because me personally as a citizen of
Meridian, but also a member of this commission, I live at 6330 West Ustick, which is
less than a quarter mile away from the proposed property and in the statute it does say
that if there is an immediate or direct economic impact of any planned use for land that I
need to recuse myself and because this may increase or decrease the value of my
property being so close to this area, it's in the best interest of the city that I recuse
myself. So, I'm going to hand this to Jared, who is the vice-chair, and he will take it from
there and when this application is done I will come back. Thanks.
Smith: Thank you, Madam Chair. We will just wait one moment and, then, we will
begin with the staff report.
Parsons: Thank you, Commissioners. Presenting the first item for you this evening as
President -- or president -- Madam Chair Lorcher has mentioned the first item is the
Ustick Commercial and Ustick Subdivision application before you. The request are a
comp plan amendment, annexation and a preliminary plat. The reason why you see the
applications broken up the way they are is because as you are aware with
Comprehensive Plan map amendments the city processes those twice a year. This
particular application was the -- the comp plan amendment was submitted prior to the
December 15th, 2025, deadline and later the annexation and the preliminary plat came
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after that date. So, that's why you have a 2025 application number for the comp plan
amendment and, then, a 2026 application number for the plat and annexation. You can
see here on the screen that future land use designation for this particular property is
currently medium density residential. It's currently in Ada county, zoned RUT and it's --
it does have a county residence on it and the site is approximately four acres and it's
located at 59 -- 5900 West Ustick Road and that's roughly the northeast corner of
McDermott bypass and Ustick Road. So, the first application I will spend some time on
is the comp plan amendment and the reason why I want to at least spend the most time
on this is, as you probably are aware, staff is recommending denial of this particular
application. You can see here the applicant is proposing to change this four acres from
MDR to commercial. As part of the application submittal the applicant did provide
written justification as to why they felt commercial made more sense on this particular
site. As part of the comp plan -- and I will get into the -- the -- their justification a bit in
my presentation. As part of the Comprehensive Plan map change staff also requested
that ACHD require the applicant to go through a full traffic study. Typically a
development of this size -- we wouldn't do that, but because of the transportation
impacts in the area or all the transportation improvements in the area we felt that it was
warranted given the fact that our current Comprehensive Plan, as you can see on the
excerpt on this slide, we are trying to minimize access to those -- to Ustick and we are
also trying to minimize intensive land uses next to the State Highway 16 interchanges
and so that's why it was critical for this applicant to provide justification. So, this graphic
that I'm showing you now shows the -- the chip -- the trip generations between the
proposed use and the current use. You can see based on numbers that ACHD
provided to staff the commercial would have significant increase on the adjacent
roadways in the area and that was one of the primary reasons why staff is
recommending denial of this particular project -- or the comp plan amendment I should
say. So, here is the -- the applicant's justification. Again this is -- is paraphrased from
their narrative. The narrative itself contained five pages and it's part of the public
record. You can see the applicant has three -- three themes to his justification of why
commercial makes sense on this site. One is why, two is why residential doesn't work
here and, then, timing of development. I think some of the Commission's also aware
that there is an adjacent development next to this property, so the applicant has also
been working with other developers in the area for the coordination of utilities to this
particular property. I think the Commission is aware that ACHD is -- is currently or in
the process of widening Ustick Road in conjunction with the Owyhee High School when
it went in. That's one of their requirements and also with the State Highway 16 project.
And so as you know when the new road is finished ACHD will limit the amount of curb
cuts you can have under that road for the utility extension. So, when Dayspring
Subdivision to the south of this particular development came in the developer was able
to work with the city on a cooperative development agreement for the extension of the
sewer -- the McDermott -- McDermott sewer trunk line from McDermott Road all the way
down through Ustick to serve not only their site, but also other developments in this
property and so the applicant wants to make sure that if that is happening that utilities
can be provided to the site. Here you can also see in this graphic the Durango
development, which is -- will be in front of you on May 28th. I won't go into too many
details regarding that project, but in our staff report we did note that this does have an
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impact as to why the -- the applicant is proposing commercial on this site is because
they are coordinating with them in that effort as well. So, quickly, I -- I won't go into all
of staff's reasons for denial, but basically primary reasoning -- reasoning is timing. As
we mentioned in the staff report there is quite a few -- a lot of commercial planned in the
area. There is a node next to Owyhee High School as part of the mixed-use regional
area. It's about four acres as the applicant did note and that has not developed yet.
The multi-family portion of it is nearing -- or under construction, but the applicant has no
tenants or anybody slated for that particular development. As I mentioned to you there
is Dayspring to the south of this development right along the same Ustick corridor.
They were part of a mixed-use neighborhood on that side -- south side of the road.
They had a commercial component as part of their development. Now, again, the
reason why we don't see it is because sewer isn't available yet. That's really the -- the
timing component of this. So, in staff's opinion waiting until all of this come to fruition
and services are available is probably the best course of action from staffs perspective.
And, then, of course, the applicant did provide a concept plan and I will get into that a
little bit more, but a lot of the uses on those -- that concept plan are auto oriented uses.
So, it didn't seem like it blended in well with the surrounding residential development in
the area, given the fact that the comp plan does -- and the UDC limits access to those
major highways -- major roadways like Ustick and trying to maintain the integrity of the
interchange there at State Highway 16. So, as I mentioned to you, the applicant is -- if
the comp plan amendment is not approved and, then, the annexation and the plat will
also not be approved, because the project is predicated -- annexation and the
preliminary plat are predicated on approval of the comp plan amendment. But I did at
least want to highlight some of the -- the work that the applicant's provided on this
application. So, again, commercial comp plan designation is what is being proposed
and to go along with that is the annexation to rezone 4.3 acres of land to the C-C zoning
district. This is the legal description that the applicant provided with the application. As
part of that they were also required to provide a proposed concept plan. Again it shows
the -- the potential for development of a C store and a fuel facility at the hard corner.
The coffee kiosk and, then, an oil changing -- a lube facility located in this area here.
And another drive-through business as well. So, again, you can see here a lot of drive-
through activity and auto oriented type uses, which didn't seem to fit the vision for the
property in our opinion. Additionally, as I showed you with Durango coming around this,
there is a potential for a stub street to this property to the north. You can see here the
applicant has provided a pedestrian connection there, but with the -- the width of the
Sky Pilot Drain staff is unclear how that will provide adequate transition to the adjacent
subdivision as well and so we don't believe that these uses are compatible with the
adjacent subdivision or future development as well. Again here is the proposed
preliminary plat. The applicant is proposing a four lot subdivision. You can see here
one access is proposed off of McDermott bypass, which is currently under the
jurisdiction of ITD and will -- staff does not know when ACHD will take jurisdiction over
that roadway. And, then, you can see here the applicant is proposing a right-in, right-
out onto Ustick to be shared with the adjacent property owner. Based on ACHD and
city policies ACHD is not supporting the right-in, right-out access to ACHD, nor does our
city policy allow for that access point. ACHD did state that they are open to the
McDermott bypass access, because it's a lesser classified roadway than Ustick is. So,
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this will be a future collector potentially is what this will be designated as and Ustick is
an arterial. So, again, if the -- if and when ACHD gets this and the applicant is
successful with their project, then, they would have to work with ACHD in the future as
ITD has said no to the access currently. And, then, of course, with the development of
the property the applicant will be required to put in landscape buffers along both Ustick
and McDermott bypass roadway. The applicant's also provided conceptual building
elevations for the proposed structures on the site. And I also wanted to step back to
one -- that Durango graphic here, too, and also I wanted to mention that the applicant is
required -- or would be required to -- is working with the developer to get cross-access
across these lots here to tie into the local street network as well and that's why ACHD
was supportive of that access and felt that this access alone could be supported by the
commercial development if it's approved. So, I had a chance to look at the public
record. Staff has not received any written testimony on this particular item. Again staff
is recommending denial of the Comprehensive Plan map amendment. Therefore, that
subsequently denies the annexation and the pre-plat. With that I will conclude my
presentation and stand for any questions you may have.
Smith: Commission have any questions for staff?
Gelsomino: Mr. Chair-- Mr. Vice-Chair.
Smith: Yeah. Commissioner Gelsomino.
Gelsomino: Bill, quick question. Has ITD provided any written comments on the
application yet?
Parsons: Mr. Vice-Chair, Members of the Commission, they did after the print date.
They are -- they are right -- their comments are in the -- in the record and, again, they
said no access to the bypass, but they had no concerns with the development.
Gelsomino: Thank you.
Smith: Would the applicant like to come forward? And if you would, please, state your
name and address for the record.
Mansfield: Thank you, Commissioners. My name is Ethan Mansfield with Hawkins
Companies. 855 West Broad Street, Boise, Idaho. 83702. 1 would love -- I just want to
thank Bill for presenting kind of the nuts and bolts of the application. It certainly is auto
centric and I'm going to spend a lot of my time tonight kind of explaining a little bit about
why that is. So, as you know here is the project. It's located on the northeast corner of
McDermott bypass and Ustick Road. It's about a third of a mile east of the State
Highway 16 on ramp, between the on ramp and -- or, sorry, between McDermott bypass
and the on ramp is mixed-use interchange and that's the area that the city has decided
to reserve for non-intense uses. Just to be clear, that area is on the left side or west
side of the McDermott bypass, not on the right side of the McDermott bypass. So, here
is our conceptual plan and I do want to be clear, we have had interest from multiple
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users -- more users than this site could support. So, what this Comprehensive Plan --
or concept plan shows is the most likely scenario for the development of this site and I
will talk to you about why we chose these users momentarily. So, a couple notes. We
do plan to add a landscape buffer per UDC 11-3B-9C along the south side of the drive
aisle or north side of the development. We coordinated with Nampa Meridian Irrigation
District. This is the way the easement has to look. They are okay with the road in
there, but they will not allow vegetation other than grass and -- they won't allow trees.
They will allow vegetation, not trees, in the easement. So, we thought this would be a
good solution to allow them an access road and access to our development and we will
put the buffer on the south side outside of the easement, so we can actually plant trees.
And this is what we are proposing, Comprehensive Plan amendment to commercial,
annexation and zoning to C-C, community commercial, and a four lot preliminary plat.
Another thing I would like to add quickly before I move on is when we received the
ACHD correspondence we are in agreement with the removal of that access to and
from Ustick. So, access would be taken solely from the McDermott bypass and I have
spoken with Kendrick extensively at -- at ITD and I have spoken with Don, Mindy and
Kristy at ACHD and everyone's kind of rowing in the same direction with the transfer of
the McDermott bypass to ACHD and it will begin in three -- the process will kind of begin
in three or four months, which aligns perfectly with our timeline. We are not going to be
able to start construction on this for quite some time. So, we are not concerned so
much about the timing. We are -- we are very much aligned with ITD and ACHD about
that. So, let's talk about the uses. So, we are proposing auto centric uses and we are
proposing auto centric uses because State Highway 16 is an auto centric corridor. We
-- we, the community, spent almost up to 700 million dollars in vehicular transportation
infrastructure for this corridor. We are literally building a river for cars and we are
expecting up to 110,000 vehicles a day by 2045 and I double-checked ACH -- or ITD
study from 2020, 72,000 vehicles per day is expected in front of Ustick Road. So, like
along IT -- along State Highway 16 on the Ustick bypass. So, 72,000 vehicles. In
addition, we have Ustick Road. ACHD is widening Ustick to five lanes, two in either
direction, with a single turn lane in the middle. Ten million dollar investment, again, in
vehicular transportation infrastructure. The -- the stated goal of these -- these
improvements is to move cars quickly from one place to another. It's -- it's -- it's to
make commuting better. It's to make car driving a better experience. This is expected
to serve 35,000 vehicles per day. So, I think about it kind of like this. If I'm building -- if
I'm investing 600 million dollars in an office park, I'm anticipating office uses. If I'm
investing 700 million dollars in a vehicular transportation corridor, it would make sense
to anticipate vehicular uses along this corridor. Because cars require gas, they require
lubrication, they require cleaning, they require -- people driving them require coffee and
so if it were not for a 600 or 700 million dollar public investment in -- in this vehicular
transportation infrastructure, this area probably wouldn't be under consideration for
development at all. It probably wouldn't even be for sale and you will hear from the
person who is selling about why they are choosing to put it up for sale and move. So,
as I said, you know, it should come as no surprise, based on our priorities as a
community and where we are investing our money, that this would develop with auto
centric uses. In addition, neither ACHD, nor ITD, requested a traffic study for this
project. It was requested solely by the City of Meridian and ACHD approved the project
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with standard conditions. Hawkins is planning to pay for the ten foot pathway --
detached pathway frontage improvements along Ustick and along McDermott and it's
going to be constructed in concert with the Ustick Road widening. So, we will pay
ACHD. We will pay the road trust deposit. ACHD says no mitigation is required and no
alternative mitigation is required. Again it seems like we are all anticipating this sort of
use along this corridor based on our investment priorities. So, next I would like to spend
a little bit of time talking about auto centric and their impact on the -- on the surrounding
road network. You know, the staff report suggests -- and I think there is a widespread
assumption that auto centric uses means there is more congestion, more trips,
increased vehicle miles traveled, more negative impact on the community and this
simply isn't true. Like if you look at the -- the data you can see that 65 -- that's two-
thirds of customers visiting this site, based on our traffic analysis, are pass-by trips.
What that means is they are already driving past the site. They are already driving past
the site. They are already on the roadway. They are already in the area and they are
turning right into our development. Only a third of the trips are actually new trips added
to the network as a result of this development on this corner. So, it's important to
consider that, that while you might have 2,950 trips coming in and out of the driveways,
1,900 of those were already going to be on the roadway anyway. Another way to think
about this is impact fees. Impact fees that are assessed by ACHD literally measure the
impact of the development on the public roadways. Impact fees fund the construction of
new or expanded roadway infrastructure needed to accommodate the traffic generated
by the development. It's -- in other words, it's the proportional cost of roadway capacity
that new development is expected to consume. So, when we look at impact fees it
gives us a really really good idea about how impactful the development will be to the
roadway network. So, what it does is it avoids double counting; right? So, we are not
counting trips that start somewhere and end somewhere else, but just stop by and that's
important, because those trips are going to exist anywhere -- somewhere at -- anyway;
right? They are going to exist. Maybe just not on this particular place. But what that
means, just really quickly, is that if they are not stopping here those trips are stopping
somewhere else, which means, just inherently, just in the way people make decisions,
they are traveling farther than they normally would. So, you are actually increasing
vehicle miles traveled and I will explain that a little more in a minute with a map, but I
would like to just talk about impact fees associated with our proposal, the Durango
commercial and, then, the Dayspring commercial to the south, just so we can compare
and understand the true impact. Our proposal is shown here. Here is the table of
impact fees up at the top. Just so you know I'm not blowing smoke, our proposal would
generate 191,000 dollars of impact; right? Impact to the surrounding roadway system.
Per acre that's 47,750 -- 47,750 dollars. The Durango commercial, which includes no
drive-throughs and a 32,000 square foot area of, you know, shops that could be
restaurants, salons -- the important thing is it's retail without a drive-through. Per acre
generates 104,493 dollars in impact per acre. Now, again, this isn't like revenue to
ACHD, what this is is ACHD collecting money that reflects the impact of the
development. So, if you look at Dayspring, which was recently approved to the south,
they are proposing 60,000 square feet of shopping center. No drive throughs. No gas
stations. 97,962 dollars per acre. So, truly -- truly based on math that ACHD engineers
are doing, the impact on the surrounding community on the roads is double for those
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uses. Here is a quick comparison between three different restaurant categories. In
case you don't believe me ACHD is charging more for the impact of fast food with no
drive through and fast casual than they do with food with drive through. So, again,
these are just math equations that represent the anticipated impact of these different
uses on the road. And because we are asking for a Comprehensive Plan amendment
away from medium resident -- residential density -- medium density residential, excuse
me, to our proposal, commercial, I just wanted to do a quick comparison there of the
impact fees associated with each. Eight units per acre of medium single family homes
is 46,424 dollars per acre in impact. Our proposal, barely more than that, and, again,
that's because of the pass-by trips. That's because there is already going to be
thousands and thousands of trips on this network that we are building to accommodate
vehicles and you can see with this square -- this square outside of -- outside of this
there are no -- I should say there are no gas stations inside of this square. There are no
coffee shops with drive-through inside of this square. They are all on -- to the right on that name of that road escapes me, but they are not within this square. So, any trip any trip that originates or ends in this square and is driving to Highway 16 to get gas or
driving to Highway 16 to commute, if they get gas anywhere but here they are
increasing the vehicle miles that they would travel to do it. They are adding more stress
to the roadway somewhere else. That's why you see gas station -- that gas stations at
the intersections of state highways, state freeways, because that's where the most cars
are getting on and off using the transportation infrastructure. It makes sense to put
auto-oriented uses here, so you get fewer of them other places. So, let's just talk a little
bit briefly about the impact of noise, light and odor on residential development. You
know, medium density residential would suggest -- the current land use map which
suggests that you should put medium residential up on Ustick. That's 35 feet. There is
a 35 foot buffer requirement from the edge of Ustick pavement. There is 35,000
vehicles per day anticipated to be driving up and down Ustick. It truly may not be the
most appropriate place for residential. Single family homes. Alternatively, we could put
commercial here to the north, we could put residential. Those residences would be
subject to 4,580 vehicles per day and they would be 61 feet from that with a buffer
provided by the Durango Subdivision to the north and they would be 183 feet from our
closest building. As you will see momentarily, as well as our -- as well as our landscape
buffer here and you will see momentarily that this is reasonably common. Actually, this
is much much farther than the distances provided in many other residential
developments as a buffer. You know, here is Dayspring. You can see the nearest
roadway is 31 feet from the fence. The nearest building is 65 feet from the fence. Here
is a few other buffers. Eighty-four feet from car wash to building, 38 feet from coffee to
building, 70 feet from building to Walmart, 140 feet from this building, but there is two
drive-through lanes between it. Sixty feet from building to gas station. Fifty feet.
Seventy-five feet. So, this is not -- it's actually -- it's a much greater distance than most
of these. So, finally, you know, we are looking at, you know, where is the appropriate
place to put residential. It's probably not on the corner where you have 35,000 vehicles
stacking at a lighted intersection throughout the day and throughout the night. It's
probably much farther north where you are buffered by commercial uses and -- and you
can look and see that the number of vehicles is substantially similar -- there is a couple
hundred more when you -- when you combine both ours and -- and Durango's, but not
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more than -- but not more than Dayspring to the south. So, I have done the market
analysis. In summary, auto oriented investment drives auto oriented uses. The uses
that we are proposing are less impactful to the roadway network than other commercial
uses and similar in intensity to residential uses. Residential units on Ustick would be far
more negatively impacted by noise, light and odor than where they are currently
proposed and we have interest from more tenants than we can support on this site and
each of these users has performed an extensive amount of market analysis to optimize
site selection. So, with that I will just respectfully request approval -- or
recommendation of approval for 2559 and 2607 to City Council. Thanks.
Smith: Thank you. Are there any questions for the applicant or staff? Commissioner
Perreault.
Perreault: Thank you. So, I pulled up the city of Nampa's future planning and current
applications and whatnot and I don't see that there is anything actively going on there
on -- on the other side of McDermott -- on the west side of McDermott. Have you
reached out to them? Do you have any idea kind of what the intention is? Because,
obviously, we have Nampa, Meridian and Eagle that are all going to have access to 16
and be invested in Highway 16 financially and I'm just wondering, you know, if -- is this
the place for this to go if-- if we have -- I mean should it be in the city of Nampa and not
in the city of Meridian or, you know, and -- and Eagle, you know, the -- the -- where they
are developing that's a little too far north for kind of the central area, but curious if you
had looked into that or not.
Mansfield: Yeah. Actually, Commissioner Perreault, Commissioner Smith, I -- we have
actually spoken with the city of Nampa a little bit. This corridor is in a Highway 16
specific plan in Nampa and it is designated for mixed-use. I can't remember the exact
terminology, but basically multi-family and neighborhood serving commercial uses.
Does that --
Perreault: So, you didn't see any commercial designations?
Mansfield: No commercial designations there. Correct.
Perreault: Okay. Can you talk to us a little bit about the timing of this hearing versus
waiting for the Durango hearing and why that decision was made?
Mansfield: Yeah. Certainly. So, I did not schedule the hearing. So, I was hoping that
we could be heard concurrently with the Durango. I actually recommended that to staff
when we made our application, just because I thought it would be helpful to see how the
two commercial areas interacted with one another. One of the reasons that Durango
was deferred from June or July was because we brought to their attention a cross-
access opportunity for their portion of the subdivision that was north of the Sky Pilot --
south of the Sky Pilot Drain. I'm sorry. So, that roadway that runs across there, that
was originally proposed kind of to isolate our four acre piece and we said, well, why
don't we just do a -- do cross-access so that it creates like a cohesive commercial
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corner that doesn't interact negatively with the residential. So, we were really hoping
that they could come in together actually.
Perreault: I didn't see on the concept plan for the commercial buildings any kind of
pedestrian connection to the east. What would that look like if that develops as office
right there directly to the east? What is -- is there anticipated to be coordination for
movement?
Mansfield: Commissioner Perreault, absolutely. So, we have a few connections to the
east, as well as -- we have kind of committed to straight -- straightening out this
connection to the north. It currently has like this little jog that looks like this. So, I just
really quickly wanted to mention that we are committed to straightening that out to make
it a real easy pedestrian connection into the neighborhood to become like a corner store
amenity for that neighborhood. On the -- on the east side we have the main sidewalk
that runs south of the drive aisle. We have one shown in the middle here and we have
one shown south of Building D, as well as the ten foot pathway along the frontage that's
going to be required of -- you know, it's going to be constructed with Ustick. So, we can
absolutely commit -- and we have already started -- we are still very preliminary site
planning; right? Because this is a hearing about use. But we have absolutely
committed to planning for connectivity there. We are not going to build a sidewalk into
the back of a building.
Smith: So -- so, kind of following the question about Durango, Bill, we do CPAMs twice
a year; is that right? So, I think, then, this is our first one this year. So, obviously, I
understand the time value of money and you want to get things done sooner than later,
but is there any reason why you have Durango getting pushed back? I -- I will kind of
lay my cards on the table. I also agree that this doesn't -- I don't have maybe the same
problems as staff might with automotive or commercial uses here, but I would like to
see, you know, the existing commercial, how that's going to look first. I don't want to
take anything for granted. All that kind of-- given all of that is there any reason why you
didn't say, hey, let's wait for that second CPAM once Durango is through?
Mansfield: Commissioner Smith, that's a great question. We wanted Durango to come
in first, but they were held up because of the sewer and also because of this little cross-
access situation that we -- we in a way kind of accidentally helped them up, because we
wanted to have cross-access here. So, the sewer was the biggest thing, though; right?
And so what we have done is we have chatted with Toll Brothers to understand the
timing of the sewer. The timing is essentially now. They are starting to gear up to
install it. So, really, the sewer access to this area is what is now triggering so much
interest in it and the people who understood that sewer would be coming are the people
who got ahead of it, tried to entitle it, worked on entitling it like Durango. So, really, I
would be interested to know from staff why Durango hasn't been scheduled earlier,
because we really truly wanted it to be scheduled with us. The reason we didn't wait is
because we felt like it had already been submitted. Everything had been applied for.
They weren't making changes to the application. As far as waiting to see how the area
developed, I would like to just point really quickly to the regional mixed-use that Bill was
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speaking about and just talk a little bit about that development trajectory there. I think
it's important. So, the regional mixed-use that Bill's referring to exists here. You can
see that it is completely bisected by Highway 16; right? So, that's where -- I -- I was
under the impression that that's where the city has communicated that they do not want
intense uses to go as immediately adjacent to Highway 16. So, I'm a little confused by
why the regional mixed-use exists over Highway 16. However, my main point is all of
this, with the exception of a small, I don't know, maybe four acre piece has developed
into residential. So, there is four acres of commercial. It has been -- we know the
broker quite well. He is actually Bronson's brother. We have been communicating with
them and we even looked at purchasing it. The access is so -- so challenging. It's
literally the off ramp to that -- to -- to the -- from the State Highway 16. So, the access is
-- is bad. When we speak about, you know, where do users want to go, we have seen
so much interest in this corner and they have been trying to lease the mixed-use
regional corner with bad access for two years. So, we know we can get leases on this
one. Nobody wants to go on that one. To us that says something. To us that says this
is the right place. That place may not be right.
Smith: Commissioners, any other questions? Commissioner Stoll.
Stoll: So, I would be interested in hearing from staff on the potential of hearing the
Durango one at the same time as this one.
Parsons: Yeah. Commissioners, happy to give you context on that. As applicant's
mentioned, there is a lot of moving parts here. When the applicant first started working
with us we actually introduced them I think to Durango and said, hey, if we are going to
do something let's, let's work together and try to make it and piece it together. So, have
to give the applicant kudos for reaching out to them and -- and starting those
conversations, because they were in quite a lot earlier than what they had anticipated
and so they went back to the drawing board, but part two of Ethan -- the applicant --
applicant is correct. The -- was the sewer. We met with the applicants -- Design
Professionals for Durango. We said, you know, we can go forward, you are contiguous,
there is nothing that says we can't annex you and do your plat, but more than likely until
we know how this cooperative development agreement works out for sewer between
Toll and the city, more than likely you may get a recommendation for denial, because
you don't have services available to you. So, they were gracious enough to pause their
application, go back to the drawing board, try to add more office to their -- their
development, work with the applicant. Unfortunately, when the applicant had to meet
their deadline to get a comp plan amendment in they were forced to meet that
December 15th deadline and Ethan was very quickly reminded of that your pre-app said
we wanted annexation and a pre-app to go concurrent and at that time his property
wasn't contiguous to the city limits. He could not apply for annexation and so staff
extended some grace to the applicant on this application and that agreement got
recorded and to and behold Dayspring to the south was annexed in February -- mid
February and at that time Durango wasn't quite deemed complete yet either. So, again,
as you know, there is always a timing component and things required and,
unfortunately, it got close, but we didn't get close enough. So, we were -- we were three
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-- three weeks apart and that's why we scheduled the special meeting for May 28th,
because the likely -- there may be an opportunity to get Durango caught up to this
applicant at City Council, but at this point that's kind of what's happened between the
two applications and why they aren't coinciding or going together and that's why you
have all of the comp plan amendments grouped up tonight, because we try to take all
those together at one time. So, we are trying to -- to meet internal policy, also meet
application requirements, deadlines and -- and also making sure things are happening
and properties are contiguous. So, there is -- as you know, again, a lot of moving parts
here to try to make that all work.
Stoll: Mr. Chair?
Smith: Commissioner Stoll.
Stoll: Bill, just to confirm. So, May 28th we are going to be hearing Durango?
Parsons: Yes, you are going to be hearing Durango.
Stoll: Okay.
Smith: Commissioners, any other questions?
Stoll: Possibly one more.
Smith: Commissioner Stoll.
Stoll: Ethan, when did you -- you said the construction is going to happen somewhere
in the distant future. When do you expect it to start?
Mansfield: Yeah. This is a great question, Commissioner Stoll. It relies kind of upon
infrastructure improvements arriving at the site, as well as our preliminary plat. So, I
anticipate, you know, that we could start -- you know, if all goes well here could start
moving dirt, you know, as early as this fall. I -- we would like to. But, again, there is so
much contingent upon others and -- and the preliminary plat progressing through the
system that -- I don't want to predict opening dates or anything.
Stoll: That's fine.
Smith: Any other questions?
Mansfield: Thank you.
Smith: At this time we will take public testimony. Madam Clerk, has anyone signed up
to testify?
Lomeli: Thank you, Vice-Chair Smith. I have Cory Thacker and he has a presentation.
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Thacker: Cory Thacker. 5900 West Ustick. Property in question.
Lomeli: You can use the arrow on the keyboard to kind of toggle through your
presentation --
Thacker: Okay.
Lomeli: -- up on the screen.
Thacker: I actually had an entire presentation with all of this, but Ethan did a pretty darn
good job. The thing that I want you to take a look at -- this is what I bought. This is
what happened in 2011. McDermott wasn't even next to my property. There was no
Highway 16. There was no neighborhoods encroaching. It was -- it was heaven. It was
exactly what I wanted. Property away from everything. Traffic was just minimal.
Nothing there. Quiet. Then without asking people based -- I mean they had their
hearings, but no one cares my opinion. They put in McDermott right next to my
property. Then, of course, what they did is they put in Highway 16. Then what they did
is -- you know, contrary to the Idaho State Constitution, ACHD used the 2005 U.S.
Supreme Court to say now we are going to steal some of your property. I got six
horses. The increase, the changes, what it's done to me. I have had one horse already
killed by being hit by a car. I have had one horse, because of the -- the McDermott
bypass, that -- that they sprayed something and it got into my pasture. I come home
and she is laying down and she can't even move. I had to put her down. I had another
horse, after the increase in traffic, that -- it had to be a bullet hole, because I can't
explain what the hell it was. I have had all this kind of impact and now what -- if I'm
forced to stay any longer -- if I'm forced to stay I'm confronted with -- out my front door a
shopping center. I'm confronted with being surrounded by -- I think what is it 1,400
houses across the road, 700 houses behind my house, you know, it's just kind of one of
those things where it's like I no longer have my peace. It's been taken from me. And so
I sit there and go, hey, let's look at the other factors. It's like, all right, with Owyhee
being built after I had bought that property -- well, in the mornings when Owyhee is in
business basically I can't even get up my own -- my own driveway. There is a 300 foot
code. If I build a house I have to have a driveway 300 feet away from the intersection.
But, guess what, ACHD, they didn't care. My driveway is 242 feet. They built their
intersection inside the code and their resolution is for me to take away more of my
pasture by moving my driveway. What? Where is my rights? Where is my
consideration? Who is asking me what -- what happened to me? Because I didn't ask
for any of this. I wanted my -- I wanted my peace. My heaven. This. I wanted this.
But I'm not going to have it. In a year or two I'm going to be just absolutely stuck, so if
you guys don't actually give me what it is that I'm begging you for, make it commercial.
It only makes sense that it's commercial. I just sit there and I watch the traffic every
single day. I watch everything going on every single day. It's not a residential. Even if
we put more houses on this it is not residential. It's not safe. This is a commercial
property. The state has turned it into a commercial property. So, please.
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Smith: Thank you. Commissioners, any questions? Thank you very much. Madam
Clerk, is anyone else signed up to testify?
Lomeli: Thank you, Vice-Chair Smith. We have Rachel Thacker.
Smith: And, then, likewise, if you could just state your name and address.
R.Thacker: Good evening, Commissioners. My -- my name is Rachel Thacker. I
reside at 5900 West Ustick Road, Meridian, Idaho. 83646. And I hear you all saying
improvements. But, again, I -- I am on the same page. It's not improving my quality of
life at all. When we bought our property 15 years ago it felt like an oasis. It was
peaceful. Traffic was light enough that my now 18 year old was four years old and
could walk safely across the road to our neighbor's house -- to Ralph and Julie Powell's
house. This was the kind of community this was. It was safe and it was quiet and it
was connected. Over the years, especially after Owyhee he was built, everything
changed. Traffic has increased substantially. What used to feel like a rural residential
area now feels like a dangerous corridor. Sorry. I had this part -- when my children
rode the school bus I lost count of how many drivers ignored the flashing stop sign on
the school bus and sped past the bus while my kids were trying to get on and off safely.
Every parent here knows that moment of fear, wondering if today is the day that
someone doesn't stop in time. This year is the first year I don't have someone driving
the bus or riding the bus and it's been amazing, except now my teenagers are driving
themselves to school. One of them turns left to go to Meridian. One goes to Owyhee.
To turn left out of our driveway every morning I sit there and wonder if today's the day
they are going to get smacked by a car that they didn't see coming, because the string
of cars in front of our house in the morning -- insane. The traffic is already there. It is
not coming. It is there. We invested -- we bought this property believing that it would
be our forever home, like many families here. We intentionally chose not to live in the
middle of the city or next to major traffic routes. We invested in peace, safety and
quality of life, but little by little those things have been taken away. This is no longer the
environment we purchased. It is no longer conducive to residential living. The safety of
my family and our animals have been compromised more than once because of the
increased traffic and development around us. That is heartbreaking for families who
never intended to live in the middle of a high traffic commercial corridor. We built our
lives here believing this was where we would stay and the hardest part is this. Many of
us now feel like we are being pushed out of every -- out of the very homes we worked
so hard to build our lives around. My kids have friends close. We have -- everything
that we have -- it's all been right there. Growth is inevitable and we understand that, but
growth without thoughtful planning, without consideration for the people already living
here, comes at a cost and right now that cost is being paid by the families who called
the area home. I'm asking you to remember that behind every road, every traffic study
and every development plan are real people, families, children, homeowners who
deserve to feel safe where they live, because the community should not grow at the
expense of the people who are already a part of it. At this point the reality is that the
only practical future use for this property is commercial and not residential. Placing the
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proposed businesses on this parcel will not increase traffic, it will simply serve and
capture the booming traffic that is already here.
Smith: Thank you very much. Any questions, Commissioners? Thank you.
R.Thacker: Thank you.
Smith: Madam Clerk?
Lomeli: No one else has signed up.
Smith: Is there anyone online that would like to testify? Is there anyone in the audience
or room tonight who would like to testify? Okay. Then would the applicant like to come
back forward.
Mansfield: Thank you, Commissioner Smith, Commissioners. I guess just a couple
points. You know, as you can see there is clearly the investment in vehicular travel
impacts those on the corridor and I think, you know, it -- it makes sense to create uses
there that capture some of the trips that are generated by places further afield. It makes
sense to not be a destination, but a service pass-by. So, maximizing pass-by trips is
actually probably one of the best things you can do for this corner, as opposed to either
creating more houses immediately adjacent to some of the concerns these folks were
mentioning or creating sort of destination commercial where people are trying to get to it
and I think there is a very distinct difference between those -- those two types of
commercial uses and as you saw by the traffic study these are very different things.
This is much more of a pass-by use and I think that's truly what the city actually wants
here based on their investment decision -- not the city's investment decisions, but the
community's investment decisions in these major roadways and, then, I would also just
like to just touch a little bit more on the coordination that we have done with Durango,
since Bill mentioned it. I just want to stress that we have, in fact, really been
coordinating very intensely with Durango. We share the same engineer, KM
Engineering and Stephanie is here not representing anybody from Durango or us
tonight, but she is with Cam and we love working with them. And I -- yeah. So, we
have the same engineer. We are coordinating to pipe the canal. We have already
spoken with ACHD extensively about the routing of the canal. Nampa-Meridian wants
us to pipe the canal. The canal serves as a nice buffer between the residential uses
and the commercial uses. There is just a lot of things that make sense here from a
timing perspective. I think this truly is the right time. The roadway will be torn up while
we are constructing utilities. We don't have to go back and cut into the five year
pavement moratorium, which would happen if this was to wait three years, then, you go
cut into a brand new roadway, you make a giant cut, not only is it more expensive, it's
less efficient for the community, because you have to shut down roads. So, truly this is
kind of the time when this area is initially developing to initially develop with it and we
are really looking forward to that opportunity and we really would appreciate that
opportunity and we can commit to providing something that I think the community can
be really proud of. Thank you.
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Smith: Thank you. Commissioners?
Perreault: Mr. Vice-Chair?
Smith: Commissioner Perreault.
Perreault: So, can you walk me through the buffering again there on the north side? If I
remember correctly the intention is to have all that buffering on your property and,
obviously, because nothing can be -- can be added to that easement, so can you kind of
talk me through what you expect that to look like or is there going to be any actual
standing structure or is it just meaning a fence, a wall, something or is it just space?
Mansfield: So --
Perreault: Or distance.
Mansfield: -- I will start -- Commissioner Perreault, this is a great question. I will start
from the north side where the fence is at the neighbor's house and, then, kind of walk
southwards so we can get a full cross-section. I think -- would that be helpful?
Perreault: Yes.
Mansfield: So, on the north side each of these homes will have fences, obviously,
associated with them. You can see the residential buffer in this picture here. They --
the fence is on the edge of the canal easement. So, within that they can't build trees,
but they have gotten permission to build shrub -- or to build -- to grow plant, shrubs, that
are a max height of six feet, as well as some additional shrubbery in the seven foot
planting bed. Then there will be a five foot pathway kind of right -- you know, basically
seven feet from the fence and, then, there will be 38 feet of open space to the property
boundary. Then there will be an additional whatever -- 38 plus five plus seven -- 61
minus 38 plus five plus seven is between the property boundary and our street. Then
there will be a buffer -- like a landscape buffer, but no trees, a sidewalk, and that's
where we can, then, plant trees and we are not considered -- we -- here is what I will
say. If a wall or a fence -- if a fence is deemed appropriate we can construct that. What
we don't want to do is give the feeling of like -- this like weird little fenced corridor with
nothing in it. We -- we can still build a fence, but we just didn't want to like create like a
road with two fences on either side of it. But we can if that's of interest. But the fence
cannot be constructed within, it has to be constructed outside of the easement. We can
also consider looking at placing evergreen shrubs in the easement, although I'm not
sure exactly how close we can get to the pipe with those shrubs.
Perreault: Mr. Vice-Chair?
Smith: Commissioner Perreault.
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Perreault: Thank you for going over that again with me to get more clarity on that. So,
has Nampa-Meridian Irrigation said anything about having a fence on -- I mean I
assume there is going to be a subdivision boundary fence on the north and, then, if
there were to be a fence -- or excuse me -- on the south of that -- of -- of Durango and
there were to be a fence on the north side, is there concern that they would have in
terms of like security, safety, access?
Mansfield: Commissioner Perreault, I can't speak for them, but I would imagine that as
long as that roadway was not obstructed by a fence between the road and the actual
pipe they would be okay.
Perreault: Okay. Thank you.
Smith: Commissioners, any other questions? I have a question that I have learned my
lesson not to close the public hearing and, then, reopen this. I have a question I guess
for staff regarding the timing. Actually, before I even get there. Question regarding
Durango. There is something you mentioned that do -- do they -- are they required to
have a CPAM as well? They are not?
Parsons: No. Commissioners, they are not.
Smith: Okay. So, I guess my question is if we were to continue this, for example --
because I'm -- I'm not -- we -- we don't have the conditions for approval to -- written
tonight. So, if we were to approve it we would need to continue. Ideally in my head --
and I'm asking this because I also would like your input based on what staff has to say,
regarding the timing of getting the CPAM in, you know, before City Council. Like what --
what are the cutoff dates there? I'm thinking theoretically, if we are hearing Durango on
the 28th, could we first week of June hear this with that additional context? Would that
work in the timing? Oh, we don't have that meeting --
Parsons: Yeah. Commissioners, that -- that --
Smith: -- third meeting. Third week.
Parsons: So, there is a couple things in code. One is the submittal of the application
and, then, two, the Council has to act -- can act on them no more than twice a year. So,
that's why we try to bundle them up and take them all at one time, so -- but the reason
why we are having the May 28th hearing is because the June 4th has -- has to be
cancelled due to Public Works Week and so the next soonest -- if this were to be
continued, then, we would have to coordinate the other ones with -- with this one at City
Council and, then, Durango would have to catch up with all of that as well. So, may not
be impossible, but just know there is also a provision in code that we have to get
applications from planning. If you make a decision on application we have to get that in
front of City Council within 70 days is -- is what the code reads, so --
Smith: Within 70 days of--
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Parsons: Your decision --
Smith: -- a recommendation or --
Parsons: -- your recommendation.
Smith: -- it appearing?
Parsons: Your recommendation I guess.
Smith: Okay. Okay. So, is there a date, you know, the City Council has to act on a
CPAM by or is it just we tend to phase it twice a year midway through the year?
Parsons: Yeah. Commissioners, we try -- we try to phase them and keep them close
together, like -- like we are doing tonight. That's the intent. And I guess regarding
continuance on the process side, again, we -- we don't have the conditions of approval
here. On the continuance side of things if -- you know, in the worst case scenario is
there -- is there a substantive difference between when this could come back between if
it gets recommended for denial or if it's continued and say the timing doesn't work out
they can withdraw or pause. Is there a material difference for the applicant? I want to
also be fair to -- to you, because it seems like we are all kind of in a bind here around
timing.
Smith: To be candid I guess where I'm at is I don't think there is a way that I could
support approving this tonight without having staff have time to look over additional
conditions and things like that. So, I'm trying to find the -- you know, trying to find the
needle or thread the needle.
Parsons: Yeah. Commissioners, I'm not trying to advocate one way or the other either.
I'm just giving you kind of the lay of the land, but -- and certainly we want you to have --
know what you are approving if you were to go that direction. But just give you a peek
behind the curtain, we do have draft conditions of approval drafted up just in case this
were to change. So, we typically kind of think outside the box when that happens,
because we just don't know where everyone's going to land on an application. So, it's --
we are writing staff reports, so we might as well do some of that extra work, too, just in
case and be prepared for these types of situations. So, I don't want you to think that I
don't want to circumvent your decision in looking at them. But, again, if you feel
comfortable taking that approach you can certainly say work with staff on appropriate
conditions of approval and, then, we could take those up with City Council. I know it's a
little unorthodox for you guys to do that, but just want you to know that we do have
something drafted up and we would certainly work with the -- the applicant.
Smith: Would you -- do you have any comments or thoughts?
Mansfield: Commissioner Smith --
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Smith: Yes.
Mansfield: -- I have a lot -- I always have a lot of thoughts. Thanks for asking. So, our
strong preference would be not for a denial and, then, a reconceiving of this project.
Our strong preference -- our strong preference would be for an approval and working
with staff through conditions. If that is uncomfortable, then, I have no issues going with
being heard at Planning and Zoning with Durango concurrently. I also have no issues
with -- if it makes sense -- I mean that would be our second preference is to wait and be
heard concurrently with Durango. Third, I don't think we would throw a fit if we waited
until after Durango. I'm not sure how it works if the -- you know, with city process. I
think city process is in place to protect everybody, but I think if we all mutually agree
that it's -- if that makes sense. If it's either denial or it's just waiting a little bit longer to
be heard in -- in -- in mid June or something that would be okay, too. But I think my
preference would be to be heard concurrently with Durango, if not approved with
working with staff with conditions, because, frankly, Bill's great to work with.
Smith: Any Commissioners have any -- I guess questions specifically? Because we
can discuss those in deliberation, but any questions before we close public hearing?
Stoll: I have a question for Bill.
Smith: Commissioner Stoll.
Stoll: Thank you. So, Bill, you said you do have draft conditions if we were to
recommend approval and so those could be added to the packet for the May 28th
meeting to be held currently with Durango. There would be no other additional delays
that would be necessary because of the hearing process if we continued?
Parsons: Commissioners, that's -- that's one possibility to do it, yes. But just
understand that as these other two applications go forward, depending on the outcome
of tonight, then, we would have to play catch up at City Council sometime. But, again, I
-- I still think we could probably get there. The other thing that I would also mention to
the Commission is, you know, you also have the ability to tell us what you want to see
as part of some of those conditions. So, I don't want you to think -- I know you don't
have them in front of you, but, for example, if you didn't like two drive-throughs on this
site you can say we want no more than one drive-through on the site or if there is
something you want added to the site plan or better circulation or more buffering or
landscaping, those are certainly things you can direct staff to add or incorporate as part
of a recommendation, if that's -- if that's what you want. So, I don't -- I don't want you to
just circumvent the process and think you don't have any input. You have a lot of input
here. So, if that's something that you want -- you may want to think about, too. Again, I
-- I don't know all the draft conditions off the top of my head and what they say. So, I
can tell you something along the lines of no use -- no access to Ustick will definitely be
one requirement and, then, the buffering, cross-access with adjacent properties, you
know, our -- our typical conditions of approval. Put in the required landscaping and
there is plat conditions that they have to record the plat. So, again, I don't know if the
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applicant intends on getting a building permit before the plat records. I mean there is a
lot of different things here that would probably behoove us to discuss at a -- at another
hearing. So, again, I know we don't try to -- to dictate that or have that discussion as we
are doing the public hearing, we try to buy ourselves some time and come back. But
certainly happy to -- possibly -- if -- if you want to continue this to the 28th certainly
could put together a memo with some draft conditions for you guys' consideration.
Stoll: Okay. Thank you.
Smith: Thank you. Commissioners, any other questions? Great. Can I get a hearing
to -- or can I get a motion to close the public hearing?
Stoll: So moved.
Gelsomino: Second.
Smith: It's been moved and seconded. All those in favor say aye. Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE RECUSE. ONE ABSENT.
Smith: All right. I guess I have kind of made my thoughts clear and you -- any other
thoughts from other commissioners?
Stoll: I --
Smith: Commissioner Stoll.
Stoll: I lean towards continuing to the 28th -- I recommend -- I -- I lean towards
continuing so that we can see what the conditions are for the approval to the 28th.
Gelsomino: Mr. Vice-Chair?
Smith: Commissioner Gelsomino.
Gelsomino: I will concur with my colleague Commissioner Stoll. It's always important to
have the full context, the full picture. Can't finish a puzzle without all the pieces. So, I
would be in favor of a continuance to get a little additional more context on the picture.
Smith: Thank you. Commissioner Perreault.
Perreault: I feel like I have enough information to make the decision this evening, but I
am not opposed to continuing it to a later date.
Smith: Yeah. I think -- I think I have kind of fallen with the -- the -- the consensus this
evening I think. Really my main concern -- again, it's -- it's one I appreciate, Mr.
Mansfield. I -- I feel like you asked for some -- maybe some easier projects, but I also
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appreciate the -- the Thackers and -- and -- and I -- you know, I sympathize with what --
what you have gone through. It's always our hope and -- and sometimes we can get it
right when development can -- you know, a rising tide can lift all boats and there is not a
zero sum game and it's mutually beneficial. But sometimes, you know, the -- the mark
isn't -- isn't hit and sometimes -- sometimes their -- you know, development can -- can
have a positive and also could have a negative impact. So, I do -- I do feel for you. I -- I
also don't necessarily think that this is a bad fit for -- for the location. I just really -- I
wouldn't feel comfortable without it being heard specifically after Durango. So, can be
on the 28th, but I would still prefer to hear Durango first. Just knowing that, you know,
CPAM, we do it twice a year, there is just an extra care I want to make sure we give to
kind of getting it right and having all the context we can -- we can. So, if someone
wants to make a motion you can. Or I can make the motion. I will leave it as --
Starman: Mr. Vice-Chair, before -- you may be doing this, but we need to have a
motion to open the public hearing again, number one, and, then, we can have a second
motion to continue.
Smith: Oh, I -- no, I thought -- I thought I did it right, but I didn't. Yeah, I guess we
would need a motion to reopen the public hearing that I was trying to avoid.
Stoll: Move to reopen the public hearing.
Gelsomino: Seconded.
Smith: Moved and seconded. All those in favor say aye. Any opposed? Motion
carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE RECUSE. ONE ABSENT.
Stoll: Mr. Vice-Chair.
Smith: Commissioner Stoll.
Stoll: I move to continue File Nos. H-2025-0059 and H-2026-0007 to the hearing date
of May 28th for the following -- do I have to give -- nope. Okay.
Gelsomino: Seconded.
Smith: Moved and seconded. All those in favor say aye. Any opposed? All right. The
motion carries. Thank you.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE RECUSE. ONE ABSENT.
Smith: I guess we can go get Chairman Lorcher and I can hand back over the packet.
I guess in my last act as chair for the moment we will take a quick bathroom break for a
few minutes if you want to get up and stretch your legs.
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(Recess: 7:16 p.m. to 7:21 p.m.)
3. Public Hearing for 2026 City Initiated Future Land Use Map
Amendment (H-2026-0006) by City of Meridian Planning Division,
located City Wide
A. Request: Comprehensive Plan Map Amendment (CPAM) to
redesignate four (4) West Ada School District properties from
Mixed-Use Community, Industrial, Old Town, and Medium Density
Residential to Civic and three (3) City of Meridian properties from
Low and Medium Density Residential to Civic for the purpose of
reflecting existing and anticipated uses.
Lorcher: All right. We would like to open the next application, please. The next item on
the agenda is Item No. 3, H-2026-0006, Citywide Comprehensive Plan Map
Amendments, and we will begin with staff report.
Anderson: Yes. Thank you, Madam Chair, Members of the Commission. My name is
Carl Anderson, long range associate planner here with the City of Meridian. Tonight
you have before you a city initiated Comprehensive Plan future land use map
amendment, Case File H-2026-0006. The request before you contains two separate
sections to it for a total of separate seven -- seven different areas. So, the first is to
reflect existing anticipated land use -- uses for West Ada School District from their
existing future land use map designations to a designation of civic and redesignate
multiple City of Meridian owned properties also to civic. There are some minor
amendments adjacent to some of these sites, which I will cover during my presentation
and the total area for -- that's include -- included within this is approximately 77 acres,
including right of way. So, the first site here is located on Locust Grove just south of
Franklin. The property address is 33 -- 335 South Locust Grove. This is West Ada
School District property covered by the area of change here that you see here going
from an industrial and mixed-use community designation to a designation of civic. Staff
are anticipating that the Commission will hear an application in the future for the West
Ada School District CTE Center at this location at some point in the future. Of note as
well, the industrial component of this was amended -- I believe sometime between 2020
and 2022 from the mixed-use community to industrial. Just would like to note that for
the Commission as well. The next location we have here is at Meridian Elementary
here in Old Town. From the existing designation for Old Town to designation of civic.
Still Old Town there on the right. It's -- it would just be civic and not an Old Town civic
for clarification. And, again, to reflect the existing land use here. Next we have the site
at 1752 West American Fork Drive. The West Ada School District property. Two
designations. A high density residential and high -- medium high density residential to
civic as well. This area is 2.41 acres of the total parcel area of 11 and 50 -- .51 acres
The next location here is south of Chinden, West of Black Cat, another West Ada
School District site from medium high density to civic land use. You will note the school
icon here reflecting the anticipated planned school site location in this area. This is to
reflect the future anticipated use of the property. We are getting into the City of
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Meridian portions of this application. Bear Creek Park. You will notice on the left kind
of have the square reflecting the park here. That square does encompass a few private
residential parcels on the northern portion and where the corner of the square moves to
the northeast those sections would be redesignated from their existing designations
from civic to low density residential to match the full property. You can't really see it well
here at scale as it's covered up in the area of change boundary, but that's a little bit of
clean up that we are doing here. The little pathways you will note connecting to the
residential neighborhood are all owned by the City of Meridian as well with low density
residential designations and designated as civic. So, essentially, a clean up to reflect
what's there currently. The -- the next application we have here is Fire Station No. 8
and North Meridian Police Station off of Owyhee Storm. This is cited as medium
density residential, as well as a parcel owned by the HOA for their landscaping. This
would be redesignating the site for mixed -- medium density residential to civic, again,
reflecting what's there currently. And, finally, Fire Station No. 7 south of Lake Hazel.
Medium density residential to civic as well. All notification requirements for this
application have been met. It's being citywide. Courtesy notice has been sent to
property owners whose parcels were included in the application for the cleanup as well.
No public comments have been received on this application and we did receive four
agency comments, which are included in the staff report packet. Staff recommends
approval of the Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use Map amendment and happy to
answer any questions Commission may have.
Lorcher: Okay. So, since the city is the applicant here is there any else -- anyone else
from the city that would like to make comments before we open anything else? We are
good? Madam Clerk, do we have anybody signed up for any public testimony?
Lomeli: Thank you, Madam Chair. No one has signed up.
Lorcher: Commissioners, do we have any questions for staff before we close the public
hearing? Okay. I will take a motion to close the public hearing.
Stoll: Move to close the public hearing.
Smith: Second.
Lorcher: It's been moved and seconded to close the public hearing on H-2026-0006,
Citywide Comprehensive Plan map amendments. All those in favor say aye. Any
opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Lorcher: This seems pretty straightforward and logical since it is the time that we are
reviewing the Comprehensive Plan and any changes. I don't see anything that's out of
line, especially considering a lot of these are administrative adjustments of things that
needed to be done. Commissioners, do you have any other comments in regard to
this?
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Perreault: Madam Chair?
Lorcher: Commissioner Perreault.
Perreault: I just want to say I appreciate the staffs diligence to stay on top of these
things. Obviously, as folks are moving into our community, the more accurate our map
is the better for them, decisions they are making, especially regarding where schools
are going to be. So, appreciate the diligence in doing that.
Lorcher: All right. With that in mind, after considering all staff, who is the applicant, and
public testimony, I move to recommend File No. H-2026-006 as presented during the
hearing date of May 7th, 2026.
Stoll: Second.
Lorcher: It's been moved and seconded to approve H-2026-006. All those in favor say
aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank you very much.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
4. Public Hearing for The Fields (H-2025-0057) by Idaho Holdings,
located South of McMillan Rd, north of Ustick and between Can Ada
Rd. and Owyhee Storm Ave.
A. Request: Annexation and Zoning of approximately 480.26 acres
from RUT in Ada County to the proposed zoning districts of
Community Business (C-C) (42.87 acres), Neighborhood Business
(C-N) (45.63 acres), Medium Density Residential (R-8) (194.44
acres), Medium High Density Residential (R-15) (100.63 acres),
Traditional Neighborhood Residential (TN-R) (45.05 acres) and
Light Industrial (I-L) (51.64 acres).
B. Request: Preliminary Plat consisting of 985 total lots on
approximately 200.06 acres. This includes 899 residential lots (602
single-family detached units and 297 single-family attached units)
and 72 common lots and 14 common drive lots. The development
is proposed within the R-8 (157.48 acres) and R-15 (44 acres)
zoning districts.
C. Request: Comprehensive Plan Map Amendment for approximately
+/-45.63 acres of land in the Southeast part of the development to
be designated as Commercial (29.09 acres) from Mixed-Use
Community and Medium High Density Residential (16.54 acres)
from Medium Density residential and designate +/-45.63 acres of
land to Civic from General Industrial for a future City Park.
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Lorcher: The next application before you is Item 2025-0057, The Fields, for annexation,
zoning, preliminary plat and Comprehensive Plan Map Amendment. Again, I would like
to state my address is 6330 West Ustick, which is on the east side of Highway 16. This
proposed development of The Fields doesn't start until the west side of Highway 16.
After consulting with the city attorney we feel that the distance, especially since the
highway is in between the beginning of The Fields, which continues to go west and our
small parcel would not be a conflict of interest. So, I am going to go ahead and
participate in this application and we will begin with the staff report when you are ready.
Ritter: Good evening, Commission. Linda Ritter. So, tonight we are talking about the --
The Fields project. It is an application for annexation, a Comprehensive Plan map
amendment and a preliminary plat. So, this site consists of 480.26 acres of land. Is
currently zoned RUT and it's located south of McMillan and north of Ustick between
Can-Ada Road and Owyhee Storm Avenue. So, just to give a little bit of history on this.
So, this property is located within The Fields Sub Area Plan, which is bound by Ustick
Road, McDermott Road, Chinden Boulevard and Can-Ada Road. The Fields Sub Area
Plan was adopted on December 21 st, 2021, by Resolution No. 21-2302. The Fields
Sub Area encompasses approximately four square miles in the northwest portion of
Meridian and represents one of the city's final major growth areas. The plan provides a
framework to guide development in a manner that is consistent with the vision of the --
of the Meridian Comprehensive Plan by supporting expansion of the employment base,
while integrating high quality neighborhoods, parks, pathways and schools. So, this
area is adjacent to the city of Star's impact area to the north and the city of Nampa's
impact area to the south and the west. The vision for The Fields Sub Area is to create a
series of interconnected community-oriented neighborhoods, organized around a
central mixed-use activity center. The center is planned at the intersection of Star Road
and McMillan Road and the -- is envisioned as a pedestrian oriented main street. The
center is -- excuse me. And this environmental feature in the central green integrated
civic and commercial uses and direct connections to the Five Mile Creek pathway, a
variety of residential types, including -- which include vertically integrated live-work and
medium high density housing will support and activate the core area. The plan
emphasized -- emphasizes connectivity through the enhanced greenway and pathway
system. There are several waterways, including the Five Mile Creek and its feeder, and
the Sky Pilot Drain and are anticipated to include pathways along their corridors. These
improvements will allow The Fields Sub Area to connect to the broader Meridian
pathway network, work with regional linkage -- linkage, extending west into Nampa and
north to Star and the Boise River system. So, in this Fields area we have the
Intermountain Gas building and there is a buffer around it, which means that there is --
no residential stuff can be here and this area right here is our park location. The City of
Meridian has purchased this property and, again, no residential stuff can be built on it.
So, that's why it's perfect for the park. You have the Williams pipeline going through
here. There are restrictions for building along the Williams pipeline. They do have a
development manual that will have to be adhered to for this development. The
applicant submitted a conceptual site plan for this area. So, at this time the conceptual
plan is for illustrative purposes only as presented. We have -- we have not approved
the conceptual plan. We are looking at planning areas two, three, four, six, seven, eight
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and nine, which is the preliminary plat for Westvale. All other planning areas within here
and this conceptual plan will be reviewed with development applications and at that time
with the development application the applicant will be required to submit for a
development agreement modification to create a new development agreement for the
development that they are proposing and they will also be submitting new conceptual
plans that adhere to the sub area -- Fields Sub Area Plan. The applicant also created
design guidelines to go with their application for development that happens within the
annexed area -- annexation area. So, all development within that annexation area
within The Fields area will be required to adhere to these development guidelines. The
design guidelines as long -- as well as The Fields Sub Area Plan, the city's UDC code
and any ASM standards that we have for design review. Sorry. Something clicked on
here that wasn't supposed to. Okay. So, you had designed for commercial industrial,
for residential. Signage. Pathways. So, this is like an overall development program
that is part of The Fields plan and what we have here shows how this area is supposed
to be developed with square footage residential units with The Fields Area Plan
submission there was -- for the commercial area -- this does not include any residential.
There is like 322,447 square feet of mixed-use area within here. This area was
intended -- anticipated for a range of 610,000 square feet of mixed area over the full
build out of this plan. So, based on what we have that's kind of half of the mixed-use
community development for this area. We did not -- again we did not include the
residential portion for this. It's just this is just kind of a snapshot of what is happening
there. Again, a lot of the stuff that was proposed within this mixed-use area at --
currently does not adhere to The Fields Sub Area Plan, so some changes will need to
be made prior to them coming in to submit for their development. And, again, I just
wanted to call out the things that we are looking at tonight. We are looking at the
annexation, comp plan map amendment. These two blue areas are for the comp plan
map amendments and, then, the preliminary plat. A traffic impact study was done over
this whole annexation area. The traffic impact study evaluated development impacts on
the study area intersections and roadways for the build out year 2040. The traffic
impact study provided an evaluation of what improvements may be needed beyond
those plans and ACHD's capital improvement plan. So, the tables that you are looking
at include the intersections and roadway segments in the traffic impact study and noted
existing travel lanes and intersection configurations. What improvements are planned in
their capital improvement plan and the master street map and what improvements
would be needed beyond those in the capital improvement plan and the master street
plan to mitigate the total traffic impacts of The Fields in 2024. So, as you can see there
are areas that will have -- intersections are needed and all the improvements that ACHD
is looking at for this area. Okay. So, let's talk about annexation. So, again, it's 480.26
acres going from RUT in the county to -- these are the zoning districts that they are
looking at. We have 42.87 acres that they want to bring in for community business,
which is the C-C zone. Neighborhood business, which is the C-N zone, that's 45.64
acres. Medium density residential, which is the R-8. They want to do 194.44 acres.
Medium High Density residential, which is the R-15. They want to do 100.63 acres.
And Traditional Neighborhood Residential, which is the TN-R, 45.05 acres and light
industrial 51.64. This is the annexation and these are the zoning that they are
requesting. So, staff did look at their annexation and what they are requesting and has
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no opposition to what they are proposing. So, now we will look at the Comprehensive
Plan map amendment that they are proposing. So, they are proposing for this area,
which is in the southwest corner of their annexation area adjacent to Owyhee Storm
Avenue and Ustick Road. Currently it's medium density residential and mixed-use
community. They would like to change it to high density residential and commercial.
They are proposing the Owyhee Center in this location and in this location they want to
do multi-family. This area is bisected by -- I think that is a Sky Pilot Drain that goes
through there and as -- as it is currently they could build residential there and would not
have to have it interact with the mixed-use community that is below it, because they are
in two separate zones they have provided in their concept plan, but, again, there is still
work to do. They are showing where there are connections from the residential to get to
the commercial area. So, even though there is not a crossing on the Sky Pilot Drain,
they are -- they have avenues that come along the roadway, sidewalks, pathways that
come along the roadway that connect in to this area and, then, there are ten foot multi-
use pathways that are along Owyhee Storm and they have access to this area also and
there will be a ten foot multi-use pathway along the road along here, so there are lots of
pedestrian connections along here. And the next one is the city's property that is
currently general industrial, but because it will be a park we are requesting civic for that
-- for the park. In reviewing the findings for this staff had no objection to this request to
make these changes, because you are -- you have residential already, the medium -- I
mean the high density residential will be there to support the commercial portion for the
Owyhee Center. Now, we move on to the subdivision. This is the legal description for
the preliminary plat. So, the preliminary plat and future development, again, that will be
required to comply with our code for R-8 and R-15, they are -- the plan includes
minimum lot sizes of 2,000 feet to 4,000 and they require -- sorry. So, the minimum lot
size they are proposing is 3,984 square feet. The maximum lot size is 10,610 square
feet and the average lot size is 5,725 square feet. They are proposing 14 common
driveways with this subdivision. They provided common driveway exhibits that
demonstrated that there were no more than three units served from a common
driveway. So, based on what they are proposing here all the lots within this subdivision
currently are vacant, except for the property that is located in the southwest portion.
There is a -- it has existing structures on it that will need to be removed and meet the
current standards for the city. They are taking access to this preliminary plat. There are
several access points they are taking. They don't have direct access to Ustick Road,
but there will be a road that is coming through here, which will allow them access into
the subdivision. There is an access point off of Star Road. Currently the way -- this is
Achievement Street. The way that it is designed the -- ACHD has asked them to --
instead of connecting it to stopping it at this parcel that is in the county, they have asked
them to bring it around and connect directly to Star Road. So, that is the collector or --
that will be coming through here to access into the subdivision and, then, you have
several access points off of Owyhee Storm Avenue to access the property and, then,
they will be stubbing this road up here to the Five Mile Creek and they will be paying
their portion to do a crossing along Five Mile Creek to get to the other side of this for
development that is being proposed on that side. So, these are the street layouts they
are proposing for Star Road, Ustick and Owyhee Storm. Owyhee Storm will be widened
to three lanes. Ustick Road currently is in the process of being widened to five lanes.
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Currently it runs at a level of service of F, but once the widening has been completed it
will perform at a acceptable level for ACHD and, then, Star Road they are required to
provide additional right of way along Star Road for future widening. And these are just
the streets within the subdivision as far as how they will be developed. Most of the
streets will have a five foot sidewalk and an eight foot planter behind -- landscape
planter behind them. Several of the streets will have the ten foot multi-use pathway
along them with the planter behind them and most of the -- they are proposing lots of
parkways along this development. There are several streets that extend the 750 block
face length, but I'm reviewing it it says that the streets cannot be longer than a thousand
feet in length. You have several roadways, as I have listed here, that don't quite meet
the one thousand feet, but they are past the 750. Staff has no objection to these
proposed streets being this length. Then you have several that exceed the one
thousand foot -- feet, but they are not supposed to go past 1,200 without Council
waiver. So, these don't quite meet that, so staff has no objection to these roads. They
are working with ACHD to do some traffic calming along these streets, so that they don't
become a raceway within the neighborhood. But there is one street, which is West
Achievement, that does exceed that that they are requesting a Council waiver for. They
exceed their open space requirements. They are well past the 15 percent that is
required. These are the amenities that they are proposing for their preliminary plat and
their -- the DA requires them to provide these amenities. They have 40 amenity points,
which is -- yeah. They have 40 amenity points for this. So, tons of amenity, tons of
pathways along here that will provide lots of entertainment for everyone there. You
have the clubhouse, picnic areas, fitness court, common open space -- common open
space with shelters, a dog park, dog waste station, outdoor fire rings, swimming pool,
changing facilities and restrooms. A paved sports court. Pedestrian and bicycle
circulation. Multi-use pathways and a bicycle repair station. This is the pedestrian
connection. As you can see they are providing plenty of pathways along here as per
The Fields Sub Area Plan. They are providing a multi-use pathway along the Five Mile
Creek, along the Sky Pilot Drain. They were asked to continue this up to Star Road and
they will also be providing a ten foot multi-use pathway along the Williams pipeline. It's
not shown here, but that is a requirement that they have. As you can see there is lots of
interconnectivity for people to walk through this area. These are the building elevations
that were presented for this -- for the single family detached and attached three, four
units and staff has put a provision that any houses that are along a collector or the
arterial will need some articulation and different designs like bump outs and things to
kind of provide better -- so -- so, it gives a little bit more design to it along those heavy
traveled ways. This is their conceptual phasing plan. So, currently there is not sewer in
the area. The city is building a lift station at the corner of Can-Ada Road and McMillan
with -- and the trunk line goes all the way to Star Road and with that Star Road -- I
mean McMillan Road has been -- is being widened to three lanes. At this point the
applicant cannot submit for a final plat until sewer has been brought down to this area
and that is a condition of their development agreement. Even though there is no sewer
in this area there was a determination made by the Community Development director
and the Public Works director that even though sewer is not there, but it is coming, that
we could annex properties in, but they are not allowed to receive any kind of permits or
anything until sewer is readily available at their site. So, that's why they are starting on
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this side, because they will have to bring sewer down from McMillan on Star Road to
their project. So, we did not receive anything from the school district, but the city put
together this table based on information from the school district site. So, it was
generated -- so, in looking at this you can see that the elementary school is past its
program capacity. The middle school is over capacity and so is the high school --
Owyhee High School. We hope to have something from the school district before we go
to City Council. But these are the numbers. And, then, we did add in a section -- even
though we didn't get a number of units in the other areas that will have multi-family in
them, we did put together something estimating low and high dwelling units outside the
preliminary plat and you can see that the maximum count is about 645 multi-family
units. So, what, 12 -- 1,210 single family units and 645 multi-family units, which would
result in approximately 722 school age children of all grade levels. So, even though we
didn't have anything we use our estimates based on dwelling units per acre to come up
with these numbers. Again, this is the property that has the existing home and
outbuildings on it. So, I just wanted to point out a few of our development agreement
provisions on this. Again, it's one of those -- all other areas that are part of the
annexation and comprehensive plan map amendment shall, priority any future
development and once sewer service is readily available at the site, submit the following
for review and approval. A development agreement modification to create a new
development agreement. A preliminary plat to further subdivide the property if required
and amend the concept plan to be consistent with The Fields Sub Area Plans, the
Fields development guidelines, our Comprehensive Plan and the UDC. Again, no
development shall commence on the property until sewer service is readily available at
the site and it meets the following: The connection to the city sewer collection is
actively being installed by the applicant or sewer has already been stubbed to the site.
The future development shall comply with the Williams pipeline handbook and ACHD
may require a TIS with development applications if they feel that there is a change to
The Fields master planning -- master plan planning area, they may alter traffic impact
projections, so that will be at the sole discretion of ACHD. So, the final plat for this
application shall be recorded prior to submittal of any building permit applications for the
commercial or residential portion of development and prior to the issue -- issuance of
any certificate of occupancies within the commercial portion of the development. And,
again, we talked about the road trust that they will need to provide for the crossing of
Five Mile Creek. And they have to install a -- a signal kind of like a HAWK signal at the
intersection of Owyhee Storm and Achievement intersection. ACHD is requiring that
and they need to meet ACHD requirements. And that is my presentation for tonight. I
tried to break it up, because there was a lot to talk about and so that we wouldn't get
confused, but I confused myself. It's been a long process and we are here tonight and
so at this point I will stand for any questions you may have. Oh, my apologies. We did
receive several public comments on this. There was about eight that we received and
they -- the gist of the public comments hit on traffic -- the infrastructure not sufficient to
handle all the traffic that will be generated in this area with this development. Schools
being over maxed out, not having enough capacity for this development. Talked about
individuals moving into this area to get away from what is now being proposed in this
area. They moved to this area so they would not be around all the traffic and now all of
a sudden it's coming to where they are and the traffic from Owyhee High School and,
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then, the -- with the development of Baratza at the Intersection of McMillan and Black
Cat Road with the traffic from that development and, then, what's being proposed here,
how McMillan doesn't have the capacity to handle all this traffic that is being generated.
And, then, that our emergency services are not sufficient for what is being proposed,
then, that there may not be enough of fire or police to service these areas. So, the -- I
tried to provide you with the information from the comments in your handout there. So,
those were the gist of the comments and so, again, at this time I will take any questions
that you may have.
Lorcher: Okay. Thank you very much. Would the applicant like to come forward?
Mueller: Good evening, Madam Chair and Commissioners. Emily Mueller, 839 South
Bridgeway Place with Mark Bottles Real Estate and we represent the applicant team
tonight. There are eight different owners that make up this 480 acres and so it has
been a long process with everyone. I want to thank staff. Our first pre-application
meeting on this -- or pre-pre-application meeting was about two years ago. So, we
have been collaborating with the city, both current planning staff -- I want to thank and
long term planning staff -- really everyone. We have had multiple meetings with ACHD,
with ITD, with the West Ada School District. So, this has been two years, but even
before that I was here testifying when the specific area plan was adopted. So, we have
been stakeholders in this area for a long time and are really excited to be here. And as
-- I want to also start off by saying is that we agree with all of staffs conditions. We
agree with all of ACHD's conditions. And have met with ITD. They didn't provide a
letter for today, but we agree with all of their conditions as well. So, I want to start off by
saying that. As staff mentioned, our applications tonight are for annexation and initial
zoning with this DA for the full 480 acres, a Comprehensive Plan map amendment and,
finally, a preliminary platform for Westvale Subdivision, which is about 200 acres of the
project and before getting into the project I also briefly wanted to touch on the benefits
of master planning. It allows for comprehensive public planning, enabling coordinated
long range planning for transportation, parks, which we are excited to have donated half
of the value of that park, schools, utilities, emergency services and other public
infrastructure. It provides for an integrated community design, which is what the specific
area plan envisions for this area. Providing cohesive land uses, coordinated access,
shared design principles, pedestrian pathways and everything that really provides a
sense of place. We provided design guidelines that we worked on as a group and with
our agents to provide -- to make sure that this develops out with a sense of place and
we are really proud of those design guidelines. Finally, it allows for future planning and
predictable private investment. So, that is private investment. Those are employers
coming in, retailers and also even on the individual level -- individual property owners
who come in buying a home knowing what's going to be developed down the street.
And so it really provides a predictable private investment at all of those levels and we
can really look at other master planned communities in Meridian and around the area to
see how once these goals are aligned early -- again this is a big project, 480 acres, but
once goals are aligned early the city can absorb that project in a really seamless, well
transitioned way. So, we have seen that proof of concept and those success stories.
This is part of The Fields Sub Area Plan and as I mentioned I was here in 2021
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testifying for that plan and we are really excited to see this vision come to life. The
Fields Sub Area Plan is prefaced by saying that the measure of a comprehensive plan
success is to see its vision implemented and to take actions to implement that vision.
So, we are very excited to be here implementing that vision for this area. Again with the
park, with the pathways, with the design principles and everything that we get to present
this evening. In alignment with the future land use map we are requesting a total of six
different zones across the 480 acres. This mix of zones provides a truly comprehensive
master plan, including commercial, industrial, single family, multi-family and public
facilities. As staff mentioned we -- for the entire annexed area -- for the 480 acres have
a concept plan that we put together to envision future uses, densities and all of those
things that make this comprehensive planning process worthwhile. We will be
referencing that a lot and it's designated into planning areas and because we will be
referencing it we printed out copies. I also for anyone in the room we have copies on
the back table. So, people as we reference that tonight can follow along. Importantly --
a very important part that staff mentioned and I want to stress again is that a DA
modification will be required for the majority of this project at future dates. That gives
the city, this body, the City Council certainty and staff certainty that you will be able to
approve exactly what gets developed. The -- the build out for this will be long. So, it
makes sense to say, you know, in foresight this is probably going to need a
development agreement in the future anyway and we agree with that. So, we want to
have that certainty there that you will get another chance to look at this and approve
exactly what is built. So, starting with the first area being annexed is the industrial area.
It consists of 51 acres on the far western portion of the application on the southeast
corner of Can-Ada and McMillan. The Blue Star indicated there is where we have
donated area for the city lift station that is being constructed. This is really going to be a
valuable industrial and employment asset within the city. It's small scale. It's set away
from Highway 16, so it really lends itself to smaller scale industrial. It's going to be a
great employment base for growing businesses within the city. Moving east is the park.
Again, we were excited to donate -- I think the appraised value on that came about -- to
be about 3.6 million dollars of land donation to the city for this park and it's large enough
to accommodate a lot of community events. So, while the amenities are not planned for
it yet, they envision that there will be sports fields, destination playgrounds, sports
courts, restrooms, pathways that will all be connected. There is a little, you know,
pedestrian pathway as well to be able to allow people to, you know, bike-walk to the
park. Moving further east PA-12 is the McMillan center that staff touched on earlier.
This is an important area of The Fields Sub Area Plan and is envisioned to be a -- kind
of a mini main street of the area. When we were here five years ago we shared similar
graphics here. This is a to scale picture of Bown Crossing in East Boise and we have
designed it with the same street sections with oversized sidewalks, with pavers to really
create a pedestrian feel, providing ample landscaping, bicycles, on-street parking, so,
again, you get that mini main street feel where you are pulling in and pulling out as you
grab a cup of coffee. This is an important area of The Fields Sub Area Plan that I know
staff would like to work with us further as we refine the concept and we are excited to do
that and in the meantime staff has requested that moving forward we don't have any
drive-through shown. So, while in our design guidelines we provided a lot of information
about how you can design drive-throughs to still create a pedestrian feel, we will
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acknowledge and accept and agree with staffs condition that we will not have any drive-
throughs along this main street area going north-south or east-west. Moving, then, to
the Owyhee Center. This area is referenced as PA-1 on Ustick and Owyhee Storm and
this area, which is also a part of our Comprehensive Plan map amendment, is located
near Ustick and the Highway 6 interchange -- Highway 16 interchange and is walking
distance from Owyhee High School. So, this is a really important area of commercial
use and I will talk about it with the -- the Comprehensive Plan map amendment, but the
intention in this Comprehensive Plan map amendment really was to increase the
amount of commercial. So, in a -- in a MUC designated area you would have needed
by code to include 30 to 50 percent residential and we said we want this full 27 acres
just to be commercial. We think that there is a need there. We were talking with West
Ada School District last week and they said what tenants do you have lined up that we
want -- we need some commercial in this area. So, we agree and we envision this area
transitioning on the western side, which is where single family homes back up -- would
be single story multi-tenant buildings. Perfect for an orthodontist or medical user and,
then, as you transition further to the east -- and, again, along Ustick would be where we
would have some drive-throughs, fast casual restaurants and things of that nature. The
entire annexation includes three multi-family areas, PA's 5, 11 and 13 with R-15 and
TN-R zoning. Future applications for these areas would include a CUP would be
required for the R-15 zone, again, a DA mod and preliminary plat applications, if
necessary there. So, we have provided design guidelines for these multi-family
developments, along with pools and amenities and everything in this area and have
been cited in areas that are near transportation corridors, pathways and will be
integrated into the commercial throughout the rest of the project. The last part of what
is just included in the annexation and part of the conceptual planning are the single
family portions that are not yet platted. So, that includes PA 16, 15, 14 and 10 and
these areas will be platted in the future with a development agreement modification
again. These areas will include detached single family homes and townhomes, with
densities that are consistent with the specific area plan. They will be developed subject
to the proposed design standards and further important pedestrian pathways and
connectivity throughout the area. Now, moving to the next portion of our application is
the comp plan amendment. As I discussed earlier the main onus behind the
Comprehensive Plan map amendment is that we wanted a larger commercial space in
this Ustick Owyhee Center. We think that commercial is needed here and would be
supported here. New commercial in this area will be important for internal trip capture,
so to allow people to access some, you know, the drive-throughs that aren't really
allowed anywhere else in The Fields area without getting on the highway or without
getting on Chinden. So, it's really important for internal trip capture, for the high school
and -- and so, again, we think that this area really lends itself to commercial. I do want
to note that our application requested that, then, the MDR be changed to MHDR. I
believe staff said at high density residential, but we are requesting medium high density
residential and, again, the -- the original part of this was to still integrate some of the
higher density residential next to the commercial as was originally intended with the
mixed-use concept. The second Comprehensive Plan area, as staff mentioned, is the
industrial area that we are requesting be redesignated to civic to support the park. Now,
moving on to the third application is the Westvale preliminary plat, which consists of 200
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acres, zoning of R-8 and R-15, with a gross density of 4.49 dwelling units to the acre. It
consists of 899 homes in total with 602 single family -- single family detached, 297
townhomes. The average lot size in the R-8 is 5,741 and the average lot size in the R-
15 is 2,400. Including throughout this project we will be having roadway improvements,
including expanding the pavement along Star Road and pedestrian facilities there, turn
lanes, as well as widening Owyhee Road to a three lane road, installing a pedestrian
crossing near Owyhee High School and constructing the new east-west collector
through the middle of the site, which will also help reduce traffic off of McMillan. We are
excited to be providing 43, 44 acres of open space within this plat, which constitutes
21.81 percent total open space, which is significantly above the 15 percent that's
required. Westvale will provide an array of desirable amenities, including pool,
clubhouse, extensive pathway system, amenitized -- the pathway system will be
amenitized with pet waste stations, pollinator gardens, seating and outdoor fitness
stations. The home renderings for the preliminary plat were included and comply with
The Fields Sub Area Plan modern farmhouse aesthetic and sense of place that is
designated in the specific area plan, including gabled roofs and slanted roofs, board and
batten siding with neutral color palettes and natural accents. Finally, with Westvale we
are proposing to develop the subdivision over seven phases with 167 homes in the first
phase. If construction is able to start in 2027, the first home sale -- the earliest it would
be would be, you know, July, late summer of 2028. So, this will not develop all out at
once and really from, you know, now to the last home sale would probably be in 2035 at
the earliest. So, a long -- a long lead time there. We are excited for this application for
all of the reasons discussed in and of itself, but in addition to that we are proud of the
contributions that the project is making to the community, including donating the one
acre sewer lift station property, a portion it was a part sale part donation of that park
with the donation valued at 3.6 million dollars, as well as a well lot on one of the sites.
Westvale alone, just the subdivision, before the rest of it comes in, alone impact fees
will be 16.4 million dollars an estimate. So, that contributes a significant amount
towards city plans, fire, police, water, sewer and really significant contributions towards
ACHD's improvements. So, as mentioned we are really grateful to staff for their
recommendation of approval, are proud of this project, the community it's going to bring
to north Meridian and would stand for any questions.
Lorcher: Do the Commissioners have any questions for Emily before we ask for public
testimony?
Perreault: Madam Chair?
Lorcher: Commissioner Perreault.
Perreault: Thank you. So, is the -- is the park -- is the city park intended to replace the
-- the park that was planned for Cherry Lane -- Cherry Lane or is that -- do you -- do you
have any idea -- is that a conversation that you had with staff?
Mueller: Madam Chair, Commissioner Perreault, I'm not aware of a Cherry Lane park.
The -- the park that -- when we were discussing with staff, if I can go back to -- as
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shown on The Fields Sub Area Plan was on Star. There was a park along Star. If you
can see here we controlled a small amount of that park and to get it to a larger size park
-- and, actually, there is a lot of waterways and -- and kind of funky stuff going through
where that park was planned. So, to get it on a contiguous piece of ground that's not all
cut up -- so, that is the park. I don't know -- so, that -- I'm not aware of a Cherry Park.
But this was the park in our discussions with staff that we talked about.
Perreault: Thanks.
Mueller: Yes.
Smith: Madam Chair?
Lorcher: Commissioner Smith.
Smith: Kind of as a continuation of that. Kind of because of this kind of shifting
westward of the park, I'm wondering what -- or, yeah, westward. I see in the -- in the
rendering there is a kind of a connector to the north across -- I think it's Nine Mile Creek.
What about connections -- are there any planned connect -- like pedestrian connections
to what eventually I assume now will be housing going eastward?
Mueller: Yeah.
Smith: I know -- I saw there was a pedestrian map I think when -- in staff's report. I was
looking for that in the --
Mueller: Madam Chair and Commissioner, I think I exited out of this. I wanted to bring
up that pathways -- I don't know if you can help on there.
Lorcher: Try the arrows.
Mueller: Yes. I'm trying that. There we go. And so, Madam Chair and Commissioner
Smith, there will be pathways all -- there will be a pathway all along connecting the park
in -- in really multiple areas. It's going to be hard not to be able to access. Along the
south portion of subdivisions all the way over to Star Road that path will, then, continue
along Five Mile Creek and also jot down on the Teeter Drain and so there will be a lot of
ways to access the park from pedestrian facilities. Did I answer that question?
Smith: Yeah.
Mueller: Okay. Thank you.
Smith: I do have one more question, Madam Chair, on a different topic. Some -- you
know, if anyone -- anyone the Commission can confirm that -- mixed-use is kind of a pet
area of mine and so I see kind of a distinction between the -- the sub plan and kind of
having two key mixed-use areas and I see here that one of them I think is already -- it's
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-- it's still listed -- it's not listed as mixed-use in the actual comp plan -- or in the -- in the
actual FLUM, but I'm noticing this -- this bottom right one that's -- that borders Hawaii --
Hawaii -- Owyhee High School, the south -- southeast section. You are trying to change
that from mixed-use to residential neighborhood commercial. Can you kind of go over
the decision process? It seems like there is a little -- there is -- mixed-use is already
kind of dwindling in the city and it seems like we are kind of a -- maybe excising a little
bit of that here. So, could you speak to that concern?
Mueller: Yes, Madam Chair and Commissioner Smith. Our original application left this
as mixed-use community and really just floated the designation. So, it was mixed-use
community and under code you can float a designation 50 percent before you require a
comp plan amendment. I think we were within an acre of that float to where we -- again,
we were trying to expand the mixed-use community area, saying here is the residential,
here is how it connects. We are going to have these wayfinding elements and there is a
Sky Pilot Drain in between it, which makes it -- the connection a little bit harder, but
focusing on -- and -- and it's cut off of this screen, but some of the connectivity points.
So, the original request was really just to expand that mixed-use commercial. After we
submitted -- and so our original narrative actually had that as mixed-use -- mixed-use
community, it was recommended that we just go ahead and designate them as -- as the
two different future land use map designations that they are actually going to develop
out as, which would be a medium high density residential and, then, just really a purely
commercial product and that was the desire from the beginning was to have a more
intensive commercial product on this, not live-work homes here. We think that this is a
perfect place for commercial.
Smith: Okay. And, then, that -- that kind of -- first half of that I -- is the Star-McMillan
Center in this sub plan as is listed as kind of this northern little red spot. In the FLUM
it's listed as medium high density residential, but I'm curious about that development as
well, if you could expand on that.
Mueller: Madam Chair and Commissioner Smith, to confirm this is the area on McMillan
that you are discussing?
Smith: Yes.
Mueller: Yes. So, again, we have been able to manage this property since about 2019
1 want to say. So, we have been involved in the -- the specific area planning for this
area and at the time we actually -- one of the bubble plans that our consultant had was
put into the specific area plan. So, it's focusing on commercial on the hard corner,
which we have here, with -- really our concept shows a neighborhood grocer we think
would be perfect in this area. So, a smaller scale neighborhood grocer, not a big one.
And, then, transitioning into that mini main street. And, again, our focus there was to
really emulate Bown Crossing. It doesn't need to be huge, you know, really big, but it
just needs to be designed right to attract the kind of use that you want and also I will go
back, then, we have this really does need a little bit further revision again for the DA
modification, because the area -- the green area in the south is designated on The
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Fields Specific Area Plan for maybe a type of civic use and we have brought that up in
all of our pre-application meetings of, you know, this area is available if -- if the library
needs something and we really haven't had any takers. So, we think that this is going to
fill in or it could be park space or could be used to develop a little bit more of a east-
west main street. But, again, we were leaving that open for us -- you know, some type
of civic use where that can be developed. But from the beginning we really -- I mean
almost the same slide was presented five years ago of showing a Bown Crossing and,
then, transitioning over to the medium high density residential. I think in the specific
area plan it shows urban housing is what it says. So, apartments, urban housing.
Some of that got pushed over because the portion of the property on the far northwest
corner was sold to Idaho Power for the development of their power station. So, we think
it really meets the intent of the specific area plan and will be further refined, taking away
the drive throughs, some of those things moving forward.
Smith: That's helpful. Thank you.
Mueller: Thanks. Okay.
Lorcher: Thank you very much. Madam Clerk, do we have anybody signed up to
testify?
Lomeli: Thank you, Madam Chair. We have Carrie Hovey. She has a presentation.
She's also indicated that she is representing an HOA.
Lorcher: Carrie's not here? Okay. All right. Thank you.
Lomeli: The next person is Eric Small.
Small: There. That's good.
Lorcher: Now, are you taking over for her to represent the HOA or are you just as a
citizen?
Small: No. We tried to get more people here. There probably is. But, no, I'm not
representing the HOA itself. She is the HOA.
Lorcher: Okay. So, if you can state your name and address for the record that would
be great.
Small: Eric Small. 5314 West Avila, Meridian, Idaho. 83646.
Lorcher: Okay. Thank you.
Small: So, I already went through that, but my name is Eric Small and I live at that
address. But my wife and I are residents of The Oaks neighborhood, which is part of
that HOA, which is the -- which is north of McMillan and east of Rustic Oak and west of
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Black Cat. We have lived there for three years now in the Toll community. But before I
get started I want to ask by a show of hands, if you guys will do it, how many of you
guys live in this area that they are proposing? And I think -- you are one of them.
Lorcher: I'm -- I'm one of them and as a Commission we represent all parts of the city.
Small: Right.
Lorcher: So, I disclosed mine, but be rest assured that we -- we try to broaden that so
that we all have some kind of input throughout the city.
Small: That works. So, what is concerning to my wife and I and many of the neighbors
is a lot that was brought up in the a-mails that she mentioned -- and I will probably be
going through it again and what -- and the Mark -- the Mark Bottles plan of adding 899
homes to what they are calling The Fields. This is a situation I'm going to say you are
putting the cart before the horse, because there is no infrastructure put into place
whatsoever. Let's look at the new planned community. These homes will be built west
of Owyhee High School or Owyhee Road, north of Ustick, south of McMillan. It will feed
into Ustick, which currently is only a two lane road, but is getting expanded. I
understand that, too. Whatever it is. To five. Then there is also Owyhee right now,
which is only two, and to the north it's McMillan and it's only two and in her presentation
she mentioned the widening of the -- the two streets, never once brought up McMillan
Road at all. I know there is work on McMillan going east of Star Road to Can-Ada Road
and it's currently being -- doing some piping and infrastructure that's going on down that
road. So, let's put this project into some numbers. They say there is going to be 899
homes, but on her other presentation there was 985 on the agenda. But, anyway, let's
just go with the 885. Let's add two cars average per household. That's 1,800 more
cars on McMillan, the two lane road. This needs to be four lanes before any
construction has started. I mean any construction. At last night's Highway 16 meeting
they brought up the roundabout at Black Cat and McMillan, which was also mentioned
here earlier, which will help move traffic in the future, but the budget constraints say that
roundabout won't be built until 2028. So, much for infrastructure. You also brought up
Ustick within the -- the proposal. I can't remember the number of cars that the guy said
they were going to have, but I think you said something like 30,000. So, now we are
going to add another, you know, bunch there and also the other homes that are -- that
are planned in number ten, four and three. So, there is going to be a lot more homes
being done in the future. What's going to happen when these 900 homes go in and the
traffic gets backed up on McMillan even more than it already is? I mean you can
probably look at the impact that it's already having at the intersection of Black Cat and
McMillan right now. It's already backing up, because of the people at school.
McDermott might be an option for people to go home, but if you go up McMillan you
can't get to Chin -- you can't -- it's McDermott, you can't get to Chinden now. If it gets
backed up anymore they are going to go up Rustic Oak and they already go up Rustic
Oak -- speeding up Rustic Oak. If they don't like that method of transportation they are
going to make a right-hand turn down going --
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Lorcher: Your mic shut off, so -- I'm not sure what happened. If you could just wrap up
and if you could check the bottom of your mic there should be a green light on it. No?
At the bottom of the base of your microphone.
Lomeli: The microphone.
Lorcher: Microphone.
Lomeli: There is a button on the other side.
Small: Okay. There we go.
Lorcher: Okay. If you would wrap up your comments.
Small: All right. I will kind of--
Lorcher: Thank you.
Small: Okay. Also probably about the state, but I -- I propose that this project not be
approved at all until the -- if you want to approve it go ahead, but I think all the roads
need to be in first no matter what.
Lorcher: All right. Thank you very much. Madam Clerk.
Lomeli: Madam Chair, the next person is Garrett Post.
Post: Hello. Hello. Sorry about that. I do represent my local HOA. I live at 6600 West
Windsor Street.
Lorcher: Okay. And your name again.
Post: Garrett Post.
Lorcher: Garrett?
Post: Yes.
Lorcher: Okay. Thank you.
Post: So, this is my first time speaking at this, so if I start rambling --
Lorcher: That's okay.
Post: -- at a million miles an hour just throw a shoe at me.
Lorcher: And which -- and which HOA do you represent?
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Post: Aviator Springs.
Lorcher: Aviator Springs.
Post: Yes. So, I have some of the similar concerns as the gentleman who spoke
before me. Those roads already in the morning are a nightmare to deal with. Ustick
gets backed up for a couple blocks. McMillan from -- all the way from Chinden gets
backed up. Gets backed up down Star. There is -- it's already an absolute nightmare.
And, then, when I see this plan I look at that and go, wow, that looks a lot like California,
which, you know, unfortunately, is where I fled from to get away from this exact stuff. I
understand there is a lot of money involved in this. We were kind of looking forward to
some of the industrial stuff coming in like we are looking forward to maybe getting like,
you know, coverage -- indoor-outdoor shopping mall, whatever was going to be put
there, but there is not nearly enough commercial space in this. Like I understand they
are going to put houses in, it is what it is, but 900 residents when all the schools,
especially the high school are already full is not conducive to, you know, healthy
community in my opinion. I have seen this happen so many times. But here is some
questions that my HOA and I were talking about during the meeting, so if it's a little
disorganized I do apologize. I did throw it together rather quickly. I wasn't anticipating
speaking.
Lorcher: Okay.
Post: Would have worn a less political shirt, so I do apologize for that if that's against
decorum. But, you know, we talked about the West Ada School District, they reviewed
it and does nearby schools have the capacity for this many new residents, which
considering already all full, hazard to guess no, and are they going -- they are rezoning
all the schools, are they going to continue doing that? Have the police, fire and EMS
been expanded to support this development? I don't know if you guys know, the police
station that's across the street from the high school, they don't have any full-time
officers there. It's basically just a satellite station. Excuse me. With this many new
residents and commercial stuff coming in we are going to have a -- like -- you know, we
are just going to get more crime stuff. It's -- it's going to happen. It's, you know, just
reality and we need the services to deal with that. We have nine firefighters stationed at
that fire station. There is three there at a time, which is one truck. That's not nearly
enough to support what's being proposed here as well. You know, which I understand
this will bring in a lot more money to support the growing, you know, police and fire
stations. Just the other day we had to wait about two hours for an officer to come take a
trespassing report at our pool at the HOA. So, I can't imagine how much worse that's
going to be when you have 900 more residents and, I don't know, like six, seven, eight
more HOAs individually that is being proposed here that we are going to have to deal
with. So, I also -- I don't know if the boundaries are -- this is all proposed to be in
Meridian or if it -- part of this is going to be in Nampa. If that's the case I don't know if
you guys have talked to them and worked out how inner city cooperation would work
with the emergency responses. That's something that I have thought of, too. And we
also just kind of want to know what buffers, landscaping, fencing, setbacks will separate
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existing homeowners from the commercial and industrial. What protections are being
put in place to reduce noise, lighting and late night commercial activity affecting the
nearby homes and, then, we want to know how the traffic study was conducted and
what does it -- and does it account for the future growth already approved nearby. Let's
see. There is -- what specific road improvements are planned to handle, again, nearly
900 residential units and the commercial and industrial traffic. We already -- like I
mentioned, the high school traffic is horrific as it is. I -- I do think there needs to be a
light put in at Achievement and Owyhee Storm. That's something that would definitely
benefit us, because we have one way in and one way out. I know you guys are putting
in the second way. It looks like it's about to be finished. That road is definitely going to
need some speed bumps on it, because teenagers are going to love to drive down a
nice kind of little windy straight road. Can't blame them. Looks fun. But my house is
right at the end of that road and I would prefer to not have some new holes in my house
from cars coming flying around the curb. One of the other things is we already have to
deal with a lot of parking issues in our community from high school kids parking in there
and we need to know if we are allowed to put signs up or if we have to go through the
city to do that for like residential parking only. I know that's not quite related to this, but
it is something that does affect the community. We are also, you know, concerned
about negative effect of our home property values if there is too much stuff that detracts
from it. What's -- what do we also have? Yeah. We also need the ability to restrict our
parking. Mention that. The other concerns are school, traffic and property value. I'm
also curious in this development where the school zone is going to be -- if it's going to
be expanded or just left where it is or if any of the new things are going to be considered
part of the school zone. But, you know, that's just my opinion of this, which I know
doesn't really mean a lot. You know, some of this looks nice, like having some industrial
would be nice in the area; right? Currently if we want to go shopping we need to go to
the Walmart on Ten Mile, five minute drive, not a big deal, but it is nice to have stuff
close, it's just -- it will not be able to support 900 homes and figure an average of 1,800
people are going to be added into this area. It's just not enough infrastructure to
support it. And like the gentleman said before me, these roads probably need to be
doubled in terms of their size, especially with adding the freeway off ramp and the
development from the first meeting today going in, like there is going to be 110,000 cars
in 20 years coming through there daily. We -- we do not have the infrastructure for this
unfortunately. It's just not in place and I get it. It was a rural area. Developments
happen very rapidly in the last six years in the valley. Totally understand that, but that's
just something that we as a community really need to consider in order to not get buried
in traffic, because I have been buried in traffic. I can promise you it's not fun. But I
won't take any more time. That's -- that's all I had to say and I -- I shared more time
than I thought. So, thank you so much.
Lorcher: All right. Well, thank you so much for coming to testify. Having your voice
heard is very important.
Post: And thank you so much for having us.
Lorcher: Thanks.
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Lomeli: Madam Chair, the next person is Greg Thrust.
Lorcher: Oh. Okay. Do you -- you are good? Okay. All right.
Lomeli: Okay. We have Irina Hristov. Just work our way down the list. Diane Graham
is here. Awesome. Thank you.
Lorcher: Come on. You are good.
Hristov: Good evening, Commissioners. My name is Irina Hristov and we own the
property at 4190 North Star Road and how everybody was comment -- we are not
against the growth or development, we just have the concern how that's going to
change around us. The gentleman already mentioned the traffic. Right now it is -- it is
bad. We take a time to take a left turn and we don't have anyone around us. And,
again, we are not against the growth and development, will -- we support it. My family
support it. We having concern also how transition between our existing RUT property
and the new high density residential development plan around us, we would like to
understand that type of buffer it is going to happen or the houses they are proposing
exactly and the property line. That is one of the concern. The other one is the drainage
plan and the irrigation. We have irrigation canal, which come into the upper property.
We having concern about that. With that construction and how that's going to be --
bring that to us. We -- I did not -- maybe that's a detail in the development, but I just
want to share that few concern and that's what it is.
Lorcher: Okay. Thank you very much.
Hristov: Thank you. Thank you again.
Lorcher: Okay.
Lomeli: The next person is Diane Graham. Lisa Brittane. Okay. John Lengval.
Madam Chair, there is one person online. Their hand is not raised at this time. But no
one else has signed up.
Lorcher: Is there anybody else in Chambers that would like to make a comment to the
Commission before we ask the applicant to come back up? Emily, would you like to
come back up, please.
Mueller: Madam Chair, thank you. And, yeah, thank you to the neighbors who come
and testify. We have met with them -- several of them before on our neighborhood
meetings and -- and really appreciate that collaborative process. Again when you do it
for two years it's been great. So, I do want to pull my PowerPoint back up if that's
possible. I will start with -- as it's loading talking about schools. We did talk with West
Ada School District last week and we have spoken with them a couple times and I did
want to make one correction to the record. They have said -- they didn't submit a letter,
but they said that instead of going to Pleasant View Elementary School, West Ada, they
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-- they will be going to Ponderosa Elementary School. So, that was part of their recent
redistricting proposal and we understand that schools experience strain, you know, we
absolutely understand that and West Ada -- I did want to highlight a couple things that
actually their CFO and COO highlighted. COO on the phone with us and, then, their
recent Board of Trustees hearing -- was about House Bill 636 and if this Commission
isn't already familiar with it, it's a really important piece of legislation that gives the
school districts a lot of hope for the funding of future development and maintenance and
how -- how schools will develop in the future. So, Owyhee High School, as we know, is
-- is already -- was really built for this area. Owyhee High School has a lot of students
coming in from Star and the next high school that West Ada School District plans to
build is in Star. They already have the property for it. They don't have the funding for it.
So, House Bill 636 amends the Idaho school district facilities fund. It allows eligible
state dollars to be used towards lease purchase payments, which are a different
mechanism than bonds. They are actually underwritten kind of like a bond is, but it's
just a different mechanism for funding and this creates a path forward for capital
projects without relying solely on voter approved bonds and, actually, when I was
watching and listening to the school district hearing, the CFO stated, you know, he said
maybe -- and it's a big maybe, but maybe we will never have to go back to voters again
for bonds to fund these projects, which is just really exciting. So, that doesn't change,
you know, when students might be enrolling from this application in 2028. This district
has been able to do some redistricting, which we understand is not ideal to send kids
further than what the closest school is to them, but the district does it really intentionally
and really carefully and we just have a lot of respect for them. So, while certain areas of
Meridian are experiencing surges and certain schools are experiencing capacity strains,
overall the district actually has been decreasing in student enrollment, so there is
capacity available, maybe just not at the closest school. So, again, in this instance kids
would be going -- I think the bottom table here shows that students would be going to
Ponderosa Elementary School, not Pleasant View Elementary School. So, that's just
one example of how -- how the school district is being creative, lobbying the legislator to
make sure that the West Ada School District continues to operate, you know, in the
same manner this has always -- always happened is -- is growth happens and schools
get a little strained and, then, a new school is opened. So, I did want to touch on that. I
would love to talk about traffic. We -- as mentioned Owyhee and Star will be widened
by our project by this first phase and I know that this Commission understands how
traffic impact studies work, but for the gentleman that was up here testifying, our traffic
engineer collaborates with ACHD on which intersections to study. They count the a.m.
and p.m. peaks and the total traffic throughout the day. In our case the traffic engineer
was instructed to study over eight intersections and eight roadway segments, expanding
all the way up to Highway 20-26 and, then, all the way down to Franklin and the -- the
good news here is that there are so many improvements coming. If you read ACHD's
report it says that, you know, a lot of the needed mitigation is -- is coming -- is already
planned for in our -- in either the city of Nampa's work plan with Ustick, up on Chinden
and, then, with State Highway 16. So, with -- ACHD really provided us with two traffic
impact study reports or two reviews of our traffic impact study. One was for the
preliminary plat and those were the comments that I mentioned earlier, which is
widening Owyhee, adding turn lanes -- I think two turn lanes additional on Owyhee, an
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addition to a through lane. Star Road adding widening pavement to 17 feet, adding a
shoulder, sidewalk and turn lanes there. And, then, this -- this map here in the blue
shows what is part of ACHD's CIP funding. So, I -- I understand and I, you know, live --
I live with traffic, too, and I understand that it is frustrating to see development approved
ahead of when you think roads should be improved, but, again, as part of our --just this
one plat that's -- that's how you fund those improvements. That's how the CIP --
ACHD's CIP funding is set up. So, as part of our mitigation and improvements -- this is
a slide we prepared to show -- we will be providing our proportionate share of ITD
improvement. So, those include improving or adding signals to -- along Highway 20-26,
northbound-southbound ramps on State Highway 16, and additional improvements
here. So, that's for our Westvale preliminary plat. We then -- the ACHD and our TIS
also analyzed what traffic would be out -- would be with our full build out and that's not
just our traffic, that includes background traffic, that includes all of the other COMPASS
modeling for density and projected growth moving into -- into 2040. So, that does start
to address and start to trigger those other improvements. So, that's when -- as our
future plans come in -- so, if we come in with the commercial we will do another traffic
impact study updating it. ACHD will review it and see if any of these highlighted items
are triggered at that time. This is a really -- we had a project recently in Nampa and I
just loved one of the commissioners comments of this is the way traffic impact studies
should be done. Again, the comprehensive planning, because nothing slips through the
cracks. If you just look at a preliminary plat and it accounts for four percent of traffic
and, therefore, doesn't trigger mitigation, here our -- that four percent, which is just for
our first plat, gets to 12 percent and, then, it triggers the mitigation. So, you don't count
development that we do as background traffic if that makes sense. So, we end up
probably doing more than we would if we came in with individual plats. This is a great
way to do traffic planning and, again, those ACHD CIP funds are just going to continue
to increase as we come in with more preliminary plats. For our neighbor to -- around us
on Star Road, the Hristovs, we are -- we will be doing -- she commented about
drainage. We will be doing that with our engineering plan. So, we don't do full
engineering plans at this point, so -- but we will be coordinating with them as we start to
develop and making sure those engineering plans are consistent with what their site
needs. She talked about the transitioning. Right now they operate a storage facility that
pretty much spans almost -- I think it's expanding, so I apologize if I'm misspeaking, but
just got expanded to continue to run an outdoor storage facility. So, that's really
operating as a commercial use and our densities and our -- you know, our -- our zoning
around there is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan. So, that's what we have
planned there. It's a big parcel. There is a big parcel it's going eventually to redevelop
and so to -- to plan around that and is currently operating as a commercial use in the
county. With that I think I hopefully covered most of the questions. Would stand for any
other questions.
Lorcher: Commissioners?
Gelsomino: Madam Chair?
Lorcher: Commissioner Gelsomino.
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Gelsomino: Just a quick clarification point. You showed in your presentation one of the
-- sort of a timeline of phase by phase, you know, especially with the residential that
starts, you know, in 2027, first home sale could be -- so, is this phase latter -- let's, for
lack of better words, is this going to include the entire project or just residential? The --
the residential homes that will be -- will be built?
Mueller: Madam Chair and Commissioner, this just includes residential. So -- but if I
can maybe guess also at what you are wondering. Somewhere in here, probably
sooner than later, once sewer gets a little bit closer, I'm guessing our next time before
you will be bringing in that Owyhee commercial center. So, that will more -- more than
likely than not develop somewhere in this timeline and potentially also the McMillan
Commercial Center. So, this -- you know, we are not going to wait to do the other
commercial only when this ends, it will be mixed in the middle.
Gelsomino: Understood. Thank you. And, Madam Chair, just as a follow-up question.
You -- we touched on West Ada a lot throughout the presentations and you mentioned
that you recognize that -- there is the recognition of a strain on the enrollment and -- and
the capacity of the schools. Have -- to the extent that we can, has there been any
feedback -- any comments from teachers, because West Ada, yes, it's a body that
represents the -- the school district, but it's our educators that also -- I -- I grew up in the
California school system in southern California. I went to one of the -- the best high
schools in southern California up until high school. Our capacity was always full. I went
to a high school where there were 4,000 kids. My graduating class was a thousand
kids. One of my government classes was over 80 students for one teacher. Have we
had any feedback from teachers on this -- on this project?
Mueller: Madam Chair, Commissioner, I have not talked with any teachers that these
students -- that this -- the subdivision would filter to. So, no, I do not -- we haven't
received any feedback from them.
Gelsomino: Thank you.
Lorcher: I will make one comment on that, Commissioner Gelsomino. Our high schools
are designed only to hold 1,800 kids. They are not going to be the super mega big
schools, because what happens is is that once our neighborhoods grow up not
everybody leaves and so if you end up with a high school that has, you know, capacity
for 4,000, yet you have parents and empty nesters and grandparents, you sit with a very
large building that's very empty and West Ada has recognized that for a long time and
the reason I have some authority on this is that I worked for the state Idaho PTA for
about 16 years and have been in the school and I have also been substitute teaching
for the last four or five months. So, I'm in the schools, including Owyhee High School.
So, one of her maps showed that there is a future elementary school site adjacent to
Owyhee High School. I also know that they own land at Black Cat and Ustick as a
possible additional site and once those capacities start getting to a point where it starts
getting really uncomfortable, then, that's when West Ada says, okay, it's time to build a
new school and they work with developers to get, you know, land donated and if there is
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new mechanisms through the legislature to be able to fund that, then, it happens
quicker, because it takes about -- it takes about three years to build a high school and a
little over a year to build the middle school and -- and within a year for an elementary
school. So, they can move fairly quickly, but I will make the comment now that I'm not
really worried about enrollment, because their phase outs not until 2040 and a lot can
happen with their development plans the way the market kind of shifts and how things
go, that I think that assimilation will happen relatively naturally. So, we are never going
to -- West Ada School District -- I can't speak of any other school districts, but will never
have those kind of super schools. They are always designed just to have about 1,800,
definitely under 2,000 people.
Gelsomino: Thank you, Madam Chair. That brings a lot of ease to my mind.
Lorcher: Yeah. Any other questions for -- I did have one. So, your phase one you are
at McMillan and Star, but your preliminary plat that you are suggesting is that Owyhee
and Ustick; is that correct?
Mueller: Madam Chair -- no. So, our -- and just so I'm following, we are not quite
touching McMillan here. So, we are just south of the drain. We are on Star Road where
that first preliminary plat yellow is Star and McMillan. Sewer will be at Star and
McMillan, so we will be pulling it down from there.
Lorcher: Right. But I mean the preliminary plat that you are suggesting that we include
in our applicant -- in your application tonight is it for phase one or was I looking at it
upside down or was that more at Ustick?
Mueller: This is the -- this is the entire preliminary plat.
Lorcher: Oh. Okay.
Mueller: So, the last phase would be down on Ustick.
Lorcher: Got you. I got you. All right. So, it's the whole thing, not necessarily just one
of-- one through seven; is that what you are saying?
Mueller: Correct. Yes. The -- the application for the preliminary plat -- the 21.8 percent
open space, that covers all one through seven here. Our TIS was done for all one
through seven. It's all one preliminary plat just different phases.
Lorcher: Okay. Very good. All right. Any other questions? All right. Thank you very
much.
Mueller: Thank you.
Ritter: Madam Chair, wanted to address something that Commissioner Smith said.
When you were talking about the Star-McMillan Center and the FLUM for that area and
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the zoning, so that is currently -- the future land use map shows it as mixed-use
community. So, they are not changing anything there. They are just zoning a portion of
it TN-R, which is allowed in that area.
Smith: Thank you. I don't have it up anymore, but I must have just been looking at the
wrong spot, which --
Ritter: Just wanted to make that clarification.
Smith: Thank you. I appreciate that.
Lorcher: May I get a motion to close the public hearing?
Gelsomino: So moved.
Stoll: Seconded.
Lorcher: It's been moved and seconded to close the public hearing on The Fields. All
those in favor say aye. Any opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Lorcher: As somebody who lives in this general vicinity area, knowing that The Fields
has been coming for, what, the last 20 years, it got approved as -- as a sub area in
2021. Owyhee Storm was built at the same time. When you build a school they come.
And for those who live in the area that were unfamiliar with these growth plans, I'm sorry
that you didn't hear about it. I have been in this area for about 15 years and I have
always known about it. It's just a matter of time. So, the most important thing is can a
developer come in and do something that's thoughtful, that can work with our agencies,
not only our city, but our county and our state highway district. Infrastructure comes
when rooftops come. It kind of all comes together. And, of course, during construction
is just a mismatch and it's very uncomfortable. McMillan is restrained because of those
high power utility lines. Those big power poles are not moving. I guarantee you that.
So, McMillan is always going to be small. Ustick has always been planned for -- to
parallel Highway 84 as a -- as an alternative road, including Overland, so that people
can move east-west without necessarily being on the freeway. That's always been part
of the plan and to have a developer come in and being able to, you know, phase houses
in over the next, what, 20 years or so, working with our school districts, working with our
municipalities and being able to do that, the most important thing is to collaborate with a
developer who is going to do it in a thoughtful way. In my opinion -- and this obviously
impacts, you know, the area of Owyhee Storm and everything else, this is a thoughtful
development plan. It's overwhelming, because we are so used to just open farmland
and, of course, we would love nothing to change and everything to just be wide open
spaces, but these farmers have -- have sold their land many years ago and have retired
and they have a right to be able to sell their land to a developer and a developer has a
right to develop those lands. So, I think this -- for this portion of The Fields -- remember
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this is just one section of a four mile bigger thing, so there is going to be more coming --
is a good way to be able to do this. We know that Toll Brothers is doing the -- the Ustick
portion of the sewer in 2027, along with those other road improvements and starting at
the lift station at McMillan where that water already comes is -- is probably a smart way
to go. Commissioner Smith.
Smith: Madam Chair. Yeah. If-- try not to go on too long, but if -- if I'm -- if I'm allowed
to soapbox a little bit. I also grew up in southern California. I don't know that I went to
such a snazzy high school as Commissioner Gelsomino. I actually spent probably half
of K through eight in -- in portable containers. I still remember that -- the sound
stepping of -- walking up them. It's kind of burned into my brain. There are kind of two
things -- two sayings that I think really stick with me a lot in life and -- and also in
planning and one of them is you are not in traffic, you are traffic. And, two, there is no
such thing as a free lunch. I think, yeah, someone who moved here to also kind of
escape high costs and to be able to afford a house and to have a family, you know, the
acknowledgement that I am someone who drills up housing prices for someone else
and that's how the market works of supply and demand. I think it's important to
understand that this -- you know, this is a plan to insure that Meridian can grow
responsibility, to be, you know built for business and designed for living for native
Idahoans, for people who move here in two years, in five years, in ten and 20 years
and I think that this plan -- this -- this proposal accomplishes that. Regarding school
funding and infrastructure funding, I -- I fully agree that we -- our -- our schools and our
roadways are underfunded. I'm glad to see some movement in the legislature, but, you
know, when we each ran a levy in 2023 to pay for two new schools in West Ada and to
expand existing schools it failed. You know, we have some money getting caught back
from ITD and from schools to help cover, you know, shortfalls due to tax cuts and none
of this is to say that's good or bad, but this is just the reality that our school districts are
-- are facing, you know, an increased demand, but not enough in our roadways as well
or increased demand, but not enough funding to cover, you know, increased costs,
increased student attendance and so I understand the need -- need for -- for funding
these things and I think this actually -- while it can't solve every problem that are -- you
know, that we are facing with growth and with our infrastructure, I think this could be
part of the solution. I think the impact fees can help go to, you know -- we have seen
ACHD pushback a number of projects due to rising construction costs, due to material
and labor. These kinds of projects and the impact fees that come from them go a long
way to make sure that we can continue to improve our transit corridor. While -- while
we can't push impact fees to schools in Idaho, this can hopefully help, you know, move
-- move the needle on the transit network and, again, like I said, I'm excited to see some
of the impacts of the legislation coming out that allows maybe some -- some better
funding for schools with those leases. But I'm in support of this.
Mueller: Thank you.
Gelsomino: Madam Chair?
Lorcher: Commissioner Gelsomino.
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Gelsomino: My -- my colleague Commissioner Smith took a lot of the words right out of
my mouth and I do remember those portable rooms as well and, then, walking up the
ramp. I will say I -- I do sympathize and -- and understand the concerns of the public
around the -- the discussion and the funding of -- funding for both infrastructure, the lack
thereof, as well as for the school -- school districts. I will say that as I have been here
for the last 16 years and I have had experience from -- at the state level and at the city
level and I will preface this that this is not a statement to, you know, be on a political
soapbox whatsoever, but it is an observation as someone who has studied, you know,
governance and -- and public policy, it is my hope that the public will be as sympathetic
to us as a city, as a body, as we are to their concerns, because we are also members of
this city, we are also citizens. We are your neighbors. We are your friends. That we as
a city have also been put in a difficult position by a legislature who tends to punt their
responsibility off onto the lower municipalities, because they may not deem it a priority
for their body, but it, then, ends up on our lap and whether -- and so it is my hope that
the public will continue to be sympathetic that we are doing the best we can with the
mindset that we are doing the best for their interest in holding their best interest and the
city -- the city's best interest at heart and mind in the decisions that we take and in the
votes that we -- we place in this Commission and City Council does in their body, but
that we are also doing what we can under the -- under the unfortunate circumstance
that -- circumstance that a higher legislative body tends to choose to not address or
prioritize projects that they could have a greater influence on, but for this project I -- I do
agree with my colleague Commissioner Smith that it is my hope that this project will be
a part of that solution.
Lorcher: Okay. Thank you very much.
Perreault: Madam Chair?
Lorcher: Commissioner Perreault.
Perreault: Thank you. Unfortunately, I am not in agreement with my fellow
commissioners.
Lorcher: That's why we have these conversations.
Perreault: Yep. So, we learned from -- as some of you know I have been making
decisions with the city on land use for -- for about ten years now and just seeing this
entire area grow -- grow from -- from The Fields out probably starting at Meridian Road,
actually, and I -- I have lived out in this area for that time and one thing we learned with
the Ten Mile Area Plan was that what was originally envisioned didn't -- did not come to
be. So, that has changed significantly and, unfortunately, the addition of the district at
Ten Mile is straining the -- the transportation and the resources significantly and so we
have to learn from those things and do something different next time when we have a
specific area plan and so, hopefully, we will -- we will learn from that and -- and bring in
those lessons in -- in this situation. Yes, it does make planning easier. The larger
project that you have, the -- the -- the earlier you have a concept plan, the earlier you
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have your plats, in that sense it's easier to kind of control the outcome. However, what
we also learned in Ten Mile is that things significantly change over 15 years' time and --
or ten years' time and so for that reason I'm not in favor of approving a preliminary plat
that is going to take ten years to build out. I also know that the city has 40 acres that it's
owned -- and it's public information. They own approximately 40 acres near McDermott
and Cherry Lane that's intended to be a regional park and the city doesn't have funding
to build that out. So, I don't know how the city would, then, be able to build out another
45 acre park not quite two miles away and generate the funding for that. Yes, there will
be impact fees, but those impact fees aren't going to cover -- even close to cover the --
the cost of those two parks and those impact -- impact fees, obviously, don't get
collected until all these homes are sold and so we are a long time out from getting
funding for -- for that park that's in this plan and, then, our other park that is planned
there on Cherry Lane. So, I -- I'm hesitant to agree to comprehensive map amendment
for that park, because we already are hearing so much that we are short on industrial in
the City of Meridian and so I don't take lightly losing industrial for a park area when we
have a regional park that's close enough to -- to access from this area. As far as the --
The Fields Sub Area Plan, I -- I had the opportunity to be a part of that development.
Lots and lots of hearings, lots of meetings and conversations, and just really excited to
see how that was going to play out, because it's been in conversation for so long and
the whole idea -- and what I believe is -- is stated in our Comprehensive Plan is for this
to look and feel different than the rest of Meridian and I don't think this looks or feels
different than any of the rest of Meridian and the -- the element of placemaking that's
really unique to The Fields Area Plan, I just don't see it here. I -- I don't see a Bown
Crossing. I don't see a Harris Ranch. You know, Section 12 that has the -- the little
main street, that's -- that's 12 acres. It's a very small part of this. That -- that isn't being
replicated throughout and they are -- they are really to me -- and what -- what I see are
not centralized areas in the residences -- in the residential area there is not centralized
sort of community areas where people are meeting. There is not centralized sort of
parks and plazas. I think there is a lot of reliance on this larger park instead of
implementing those spaces in -- into the residential area. Yes, the -- the percentages
look great, 20 percent open space, that looks fine, but that's all broken up in a bunch of
different areas and it's not sort of centralized and having sort of this -- this main street
feel that The Fields Area Plan is intended for. There is supposed to be somewhat of a
main street on the north side, but a majority of the residential can't even access that by
foot. It's just too far away. And so all -- the three different sort of projected concepts
that are in the Comprehensive Plan for what The Fields area was intended to look like,
I don't -- I don't really see that here. I see parts of it. I see sections of it. But given this
significant amount of space, significant amount of residential, I'm not getting that this is
meeting the intention of what The Fields Area Plan has and so that's my opinion as a
Commissioner, having been involved as a decision maker in our Comprehensive Plan,
having been involved as a decision maker in our Fields Area Plan, I just don't see this
meeting the intent of that. I just see this being additional subdivisions just like we
already have. We already have a regional park that we have land for. We will be losing
industrial that -- that so many developers are saying that we need. So, for me this -- I'm
not in agreement with this as it stands. I do want to say that I understand and -- I don't
say any of the lightly, because I understand and appreciate the incredible amount of
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time and man hours and money and coordination with our staff and ACHD staff and ITD
that goes into this, so I don't say any of those things lightly and I'm not -- I'm not saying
that I don't think that there are parts of this that look -- that look really great. I'm just
super hesitant to bite off this amount of -- of annexation and this amount of -- of homes
and -- and 200 acres of-- of residential development at one time. I just would really like
to see this come in a little bit slower, a little bit more phases, so that we have that
opportunity to adjust over ten years' time and so we don't have a project that looks
entirely different than it was originally intended to be.
Lorcher: Thank you.
Stoll: Madam Chair?
Lorcher: Commissioner Stoll.
Stoll: Join into the comparison of graduating classes and stuff. I proudly say I
graduated in a class of 175 people and I was very happy with that. No portables. I also
moved into this area in 1993 when the City of Meridian was a little over 10,000 people
and my real estate agent at the time told me you don't want to move into Meridian,
because the property value is not going to increase like it will in Boise. We held off and
we actually bought in west Boise at the time. Lived there for nine years and, then, we
quickly moved into east Meridian in an area that we said we weren't going to move into
because we didn't want to see farmland being developed and we -- we enjoyed running
along the roadway and -- but we quickly recalculated our decision and bought a house
that we have lived there for over 26 years and have watched Meridian grow and
blossom. During that time period I also witnessed the development community coming
to Ada Planning Association, ACHD and the City of Meridian, with a north Meridian
growth plan of how they would develop and put in the adequate infrastructure needed
for north Meridian and all the bodies said no, because they didn't have a desire to grow
in that area and what we ended up with was a lack of comprehensive planning and
investment into the north Meridian area, because we didn't agree with what was coming
our way and yet we knew what was coming our way and, then, so we ended up with
smaller developments that -- it's kind of like plaque in the artery, it just starts building up
in your arteries and eventually you are going to have a heart attack. This is not ideal,
but it is a fairly large piece of property where we know what investments are going to be
made in the transportation system and I have grave concerns if we say no that it's going
to be bite sized developments that will be worse for the traffic that we have, because
our revenue system for transportation is reactive to growth and that's an artifact of state
law and how our system is set up. We can't -- we are not going to put in the roadway
system before the development comes in. Some people would argue that the impact
fees are too high. I would argue that they are too low and they need to be higher, but
that's not going to change at the legislature and until we get additional revenue we are
going to be much more reactive to the transportation needs of the region and of the
state. But I think this is a good proposal that we have adequate -- it will be phased over
time, it will be adequate infrastructure coming into place. What we do see with ACHD
and their impact fees program is that they do use it judiciously, it's just not enough
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money coming into them and they will get the improvements to the targeted spots that
are most crucial as soon as they can and with that I will stop.
Lorcher: Okay. All right. Thank you very much.
Smith: Madam Chair?
Lorcher: Commissioner Smith.
Smith: After hearing all applicant, staff and public testimony, I move to recommend
approval to the City Council of File No. H-2025-0057 as presented in the staff report for
the hearing date of May 7th, 2026, with no modifications.
Gelsomino: Seconded.
Lorcher: It's been moved and seconded to approve The Fields for annexation, zoning
and preliminary plat. All those in favor say aye. Any opposed?
Perreault: Opposed nay.
Lorcher: So, it's three yes and one no. Motion carries.
Stoll: Four.
Lorcher: Oh. Excuse me. Four ayes, one nay, motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE NAY. ONE ABSENT.
Lorcher: That's it. Okay. All right. Motion carries. Period. Just a reminder for this
month, Commissioners, we have a meeting on the 21 st and the 28th, not June 2nd. So,
please make sure that's in your calendars and I will take one more motion.
Stoll: Move to adjourn.
Smith: Second.
Lorcher: It's been moved and seconded to adjourn. All those in favor say aye. Any
opposed? Motion carries. Thank you very much everyone.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:16 P.M.
(AUDIO RECORDING ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS. )
APPROVED
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MARIA LORCHER - CHAIRMAN DATE APPROVED
ATTEST:
CHRIS JOHNSON - CITY CLERK
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