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CITY OF MERIDIAN
CITY COUNCIL STRA TEGIC PLANNING SESSION / WORKSHOP
AGENDA ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION
Tuesday, March 13, 2001, at 6:30 P.M.
City Council Chambers
x Tammy deWeerd x Cherie McCandless
x Ron Anderson x Keith Bird
x Mayor Robert Corrie
Discussion of Appraisal of Ten Mile Fire Station Land: Resolution
for the 3-27-01 Meeting
Discussion of Surplus Fire Department Vehicles: Agreement /
Contract for the 3-27-01 Meeting
Discussion of Urban Renewal Area Resolution: Presentation on
next workshop on 4-10-01 by Committee
Discussion of Genera/Insurance Liability Concerns: Presentation
from Jim Johnson
Discussion of Area of Impact Proposed Changes: Prepare Letter
to Ada County for 3-20-01 Meeting
Discussion of Ada County Subdivision Applications: Process /
Procedure to Address Application
Discussion of Update of Water and Sewer Fees: Presentation for
next workshop on 4-10-01 by Public Works
Discussion of Future Topics: for 4-10-01 Workshop
- presentation by Urban Renewal Committee
fee proposals for applications by P & Z Department
water and sewer fees update
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AGENDA ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION
Tuesday, March 13, 2001, at 6:30 P.M.
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Meridian r ,(8 Department
540 E. Franklin Road
Meridian, 10 83642
208-888-1234
Fax 208-895-0390
Memo
To:
From:
Date:
Mayor Robert Corrie, City Council Members
Chief Ken W. Bowers
March 9, 2001
Appraisal of Fire Station Land
Re:
Meridian Rural Fire Protection District wanted an appraisal of the land at 2401 N. Ten
Mile Road the location of the new Fire Station. I contacted Darrel Matthews of
Mountain States Appraisal to do the appraisal.
This land was donated to the City of Meridian years ago. We appeared before
Planning & Zoning and the City Council to have the zoning changed to LO and had
the lot surveyed. We had water, sewer, and the appropriate valves constructed from
Ten Mile Road. Our cost to have aU this work done was $9,698.50 and the Meridian
Rural Fire Protection District paid their portion.
The appraisal was done at the current market value for land with water and sewer
already in. The estimated appraised value is $98,000.00.
$98,000.00 Estimated Appraisal
- 9,698.50 Less Work Already Paid For
88t301.50
Meridian Rural Fire Protection District would pay their appropriate percentage of
$ 88,301.50.
If you have any questions, please contact me.
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Ken W. Bowerst Chief
Meridian Fire Department
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CITY OF MERIDIAN
CITY COUNCIL STRA TEGIC PLANNING SESSION / WORKSHOP
AGENDA ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION
Tuesday, March 13, 2001, at 6:30 P.M.
City Council Chambers
x Tammy deWeerd x Cherie McCandless
x Ron Anderson x Keith Bird
o Mayor Robert Corrie
Discussion of Appraisal of Ten Mile Fire Station Land: Resolution
for the 3-27-01 Meeting
Discussion of Surplus Fire Department Vehicles: Agreement /
Contract for the 3-27-01 Meeting
Discussion of Urban Renewal Area Resolution: Presentation on
next workshop on 4-10-01 by Committee
Discussion of General Insurance Liability Concerns: Presentation
from Jim Johnson
Discussion of Area of Impact Proposed Changesw. Prepare Letter
to Ada County for 3-20-01 Meeting
Discussion of Ada County Subdivision Applications: Process /
Procedure to Address Application
Discussion of Update of Water and Sewer Feesw. Presentation for
next workshop on 4-10-01 by Public Works
Discussion of Future Topics: for 4-10-01 Workshop
- presentation by Urban Renewal Committee
fee proposals for applications by P & Z Department
water and sewer fees update
Meridian City Council Workshop Agenda - March 13, 2001
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Meridian City Council Workshop
March 13. 2001
The Tuesday March 13, 2001 Meridian City Council Workshop was called to
order at 6:32 p.m. by President Keith Bird.
Members Present: Keith Bird, Cherie McCandless, Ron Anderson, Tammy De
Weerd
Members Absent: Robert Corrie
Others Present: Gary Smith, Bill Nichols, Shari Stiles, Bill Gordon, Ken Bowers,
Will Berg, Jim Johnson, Steve Bravo, Mike Ingram.
Issue #1
Discussion of Appraisal of Ten Mile Fire Station Land:
Bird: Mr. Kenneth Bowers, Chief of the Fire Department.
Bowers: The Mayor's set is over there?
Bird: We do not care, sit right there.
Bowers: Good evening President Bird and City Council members. Tonight out in
the audience we have the Rural Commissioner, Steve Bravo, who will set in and
listen.
De Weerd: Steve do you want to join us?
Bowers: Do you want to come up and join us or stay? The Rural
Commissioners had approached myself and Ron Anderson in one of our
meetings in talking about what they could get with the property out at Ten Mile.
They did not feel very comfortable about owning a percent of the building and not
owning a percent of the ground. They wanted kind of a whole package out there
so I had contacted Mountain State Appraisal to come out and give us an
appraisal on the property at Ten Mile. Mr. Darrel Matthews came out and gave
us an appraisal on it. Many years ago that property was donated to the City of
Meridian for a Fire Station lot by Mr. Teeter. We appear before the Planning and
Zoning and City Council to have zoning changed to L-Q and had the lots
surveyed. We have water and sewer and the appropriate bowels constructed on
the property from Ten Mile Road before they come in and overlay Ten Mile Road,
because once they overlaid it then we would have to wait 5 years before we
could hook in. Our cost to have all of this work done was $9,698.50, and the
Meridian Rural Fire Protection District paid their portion of that. The appraisal
was done at the current market value for land with water and sewer to the lot.
The estimated appraisal value is $98,000. The Meridian Rural Fire Protection
District would like to pay their appropriate percentage of the property.
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Bird: That is what the $9,698.50, that has already been paid for so the total
appraisal their percent would be -
Bowers: Would be $88,301.50.
Bird: And what is their percent right now?
Bowers: They are 26 percent at this time.
Bird: $19,000-$20,000.
De Weerd: Mr. President?
Bird: Yes, Tammy.
De Weerd: Weill was acknowledging the president that just came.
Bowers: And I did not know if the Rural had approached you guys on any
different type of percentage, 30-70, 50-50, so I did not put a percent down on
this.
Bird: Councilman Anderson.
Anderson: I had had a conversation with Steve and after we got your memo
there was the only fallacy. I see with that if you say that they paid their
proportion of the $9,698, and so that was 30 percent?
Bowers: Thirty percent.
Anderson: And so we should not deduct that full amount from the $98,000 that
they only pay 30 percent of that.
Bravo: We do not even want to bother, just take the 1 0 off. We will just take
what we have already paid both ends off of the appraisal value and just pay our
percentage and call it the 26 percent.
Anderson: So you are saying take the $9600 off of the $98,000, or what?
Bravo: Yes, which came out with the original numbers that Kenny had here the
$88,301.50 would what -- we would pay our 26 percent of and just call it 26
percent all of the way through and not worry about that 4 percent on the
improvements, that is pocket change.
Bird: So is our agreement going to stay this year at the 74-26?
Anderson: Well, that will be re-evaluated for the next budget year.
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Bird: Okay.
Anderson: But we do not know what those numbers are yet, we need the
planning and the demographics.
Bravo: It was our just opinion it would be simpler if we just make each project a
certain percentage all the way through, so that 10-20 years from now, it is real
easy to know that (inaudible) percentage, unless you guys have any other ideas.
Bird: Mr. Nichols.
Nichols: The one you are talking about is just like a sum-sorted formula. If you
take the $9,698.50 off and then do the 26 percent on the $88,301.50 and call it a
26 percent ownership between the land and the improvements that reasonable
one with the circumstances fixes that interest and that land and improvement so
that if anything is ever done with it later on at any time. You decide to sever you
Joint Powers Agreement and buy that interest from them and have the thing
reappraised and buy the 26 percent.
Bird: Do we have to do that in a form of resolution or just a contract?
Nichols: That is a good question. I think it is a contract. We would just probably
reflect it as an indendum on the existing Joint Powers Agreement or somehow
reflects what the Rurals are paying and they are getting in return.
(I naud ible Discussion)
Bird: Would you do that Bill?
Nichols: You bet.
Bird: Then let the Mayor know and we get it on the deal.
Bravo: And we write that personal check to you, right Kenny?
Bowers: Yes.
Bird: We have that. Item NO.2 is the - oh, Mike?
Ingram: One quick thing that I want to interject while we are talking about the
Fire Station is, have you had a chance Keith to talk to Doc Johnson on -
Bird: I have not had a chance to talk to Dr. Johnson.
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Ingram: Would it be possible to at least make contact with him before our
meeting next Wednesday.
Bird: Yes, I will try and get a hold of him. He is back in time.
Ingram: Okay, thank you sir.
Issue #2
Discussion of Surplus Fire Oeparlment Vehicles:
Bird: Mr. Bowers.
Bowers: Okay, thank you. Councilman Anderson and I and the Rural
Commissioners sat down one night and kind of mapped out what we are going to
need for the future for trucks. At that time we decided we that we have too many
vehicles at this time so we need to start surplusing some of our older equipment,
old vans, stuff that we do not use weekly or monthly. At this time we have a
1973 Ford American (inaudible) truck that the City bought in 1972 or 1973
around in that area. This is a City owned truck, this is not a 50-50, and the City
owns it all. I had talked to Mr. Nichols about if there is anyway that we could gift
or exchange a piece of fire equipment to another Fire Department, and he has
checked through and went through a lot of the state laws and basically said that
is not a problem doing this. The Lowman Fire Department is just starting out;
they are starting to start a department with trucks, wild land trucks. They do not
have anything. They are starting from scratch, and they are the first ones --
basically about 8 months ago had come and talked to us about if we had ever
any trucks available to put them on our list. They were the first ones on our list. I
got a hold of them yesterday; they are still interested in a truck, so we had the
truck appraised. The appraisal came in at $8,000 for the truck. Basically the first
thing the letter says is these trucks are not very popular. Caldwell Fire had one
similar to it and it took them several months to get rid of theirs, and I do not even
know if they sold it or gave it away. I did not ever hear. Like I said in that last
sentence right there, I would think that if the City would be able to gift this truck to
Lowman. We have a lot of people that travel up to Lowman and live up in that
area. Possibly that truck would be servicing them up there at Lowman also. I
thought I would just bring it to you and get any ideas you guys have on it.
Bird: Tammy what are your thoughts on it?
De Weerd: I think we need to help out a fellow community.
Bird: Okay, Cherie?
McCandless: The first thing when I read this, the first thing that came to mind is
if they had had that they would not have lost that lodge up there.
Bird: Mr. Anderson?
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Anderson: I think it would be a good move. I know most of the surrounding
departments that are real close that could benefit Meridian as far as mutual aide
already have equipment that is far superior to this type of apparatus, so we
looked at a donation or a gift or trying to sell it to somebody around here. Like I
said nobody around here would even be interested in the truck due to the age
and the condition of it. I think it would be a real benefit for the Lowman
Community. They do not have a Taxing District even formed at this point, they
are just trying to solicit funds and get donations to get their district up off and
running. I know at Nampa we are putting together a bunch of old equipment,
bunker gear and hose, and nozzles and stuff that we would like to throw in in
conjunction with this apparatus and kind of equip it a little bit for them too. I think
it would be a good deal. I think we would get far more PR value and good will
between the communities for the miniscule amount of money that we get for it. I
think it would be a good deal.
Bird: Mr. Nichols, what kind of an appeal do we have to draw up or how do we -
Nichols: As long as it is - I believe the statute that Kenny referred to into this
memo, it refers to a donation to any other taxing entity, so does the City of
Lowman. Is the City of Lowman incorporated is this a Fire Protection District?
Do they have a, they do not have any taxes or -
Anderson: Not at this time, but they said that they are affiliated with Boise
County, so it could be a gift to Boise County and then Boise County could then in
turn put it on a loan basis or whatever to this Fire District, and they would talk to
their Commissioners up there.
Nichols: I would say if the donation is in Boise County with the stipulation that it
be used for Lowman then I think you are okay.
Bird: Could you draw up the papers and it get them for the next Council
meeting?
Nichols: I have not thought about what we would do, I suppose we could
probably do a resolution, probably.
Bird: Is that agreeable with all of the Council? (Inaudible)
Nichols: Okay, Kenny I need the serial number and stuff for the truck.
Bird: Thank you Kenneth.
Bowers: Mr. Bird, City Council, we are not going to get any points from surveying
Meridian Bureau Ford anymore. Thank you, I appreciate it.
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Issue #3
Discussion of Urban Renewal Area Resolution:
Bird: Discussion?
De Weerd: It looks like there is discussion.
Bird: Okay, Jim come on up and sit down. This is Jim Johnson Chairman of the
Meridian Development Committee.
Johnson: The acronym is MDC. The Mayor asked me to address this, and I am
not too sure what he had in mind other than he kind of conveyed there might be
some confusion. So I thought what I would do is just give you a brief recap and
this is kind of a repeat of what I said before. Bill and I have spent some time on
the Urban Renewal law, state statute. Every incorporate committee in the State
of Idaho has an Urban Renewal Development. Some have put it into (inaudible)
some do not. Currently there is a lot of Urban Renewal going on in the State of
Idaho. I thought I would start with just some basic definitions, and these all come
right out of the state statue 50-2001 to 50-2031. First is Urban Renewal area of
operation. Area of operation meaning (inaudible). By statutes that is defined as
in corporate City limits and area of 5 miles beyond the City limits as long as it
does not overlap some other incorporated territory. Meridian comes up to Boise
so the 5-mile limit would not apply, but it might in some areas. Then the next
definition I want to talk about is Urban Renewal Area and that is basically
boundaries that are set by the Council within which the Renewal has to happen.
This could mean you could do that whole area, but whatever we do has to fall
within those boundaries. Then the next definition I want to talk about is the
Urban Renewal Project itself. This is a specific plan, which is within the Urban
Renewal area; it may only be a small portion. It is all addressed by the act and
(inaudible) as you go through each step to determining these boundaries if City
Council approves to do that. Then the funding mechanism most commonly used
in the State of Idaho and currently being used by over 20 cities in Idaho is Tax
Increment Financing. That falls under the Local Economic Development Act,
which is again a state statute 50-2901 to 50-2912. In there the key definition is a
revenue allocation area, and a revenue allocation area is the area designated
again approved by the City Council, which the taxes are collected to pay for any
developments. There are some limitations on that the area cannot be larger than
100/0 of the assessed value of the Urban Renewal area (inaudible). It is not 10
percent geographic area it is 1 0 percent of the revenue that is collected on the
taxes, property taxes. It has a life span of 24 years maximum, and as I get into
the bond issue you will see where that comes into play. This is how the tax
increment financing works if I could just briefly go over that. It is all done in
conjunction with the County Assessor, approval by the City, you designate your
tax revenue allocation area, taxes are frozen in other words the base. The total
taxes collected at a certain time, which you determine, is frozen at that point. So
let us say theoretically you get $100,000 worth taxes, it is going to be a lot more
than that but let us just us that, in this certain area this revenue allocation area.
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Those taxes continue to flow to this taxing (inaudible). Any new growth that, an ..
increase in taxes go directly to the Urban Renewal vacancy to improve the area.
Of course it has been qualified already as a deteriorating or deteriorated area in
order to get this money. Now the way this operates is throughout the State of
Idaho this is taking place now, Twin Falls, Pocatello, I have copies of their forms.
The bonding company goes out and sells to investors, they are called tax
increment financing bonds and they have maturities like 11 years, 1(2 years, or 20
years the maximum 30 years on the one, and the money comes in if we sell the
bonds. The money is up front for use by the Urban Renewal agency. To
purchase the land or develop land that needs rehabilitation or even to spur the
growth, start the growth itself, and then the increment tax is collected and in turn
go back to pay the bonds off. Now, in order for that to be an acceptable way of
funding your area for your revenue allocation has to be large enough so that you
can collect enough increment taxes in order to do something. If it is a small area,
it will sit there a long time; you will never get enough increment taxes in order to
make an impact. That is why the people that are bid through this process say
two things should occur. One is that area has to include by law an area that
needs rehabilitation, but the key is the area also has to include an area that
currently developing on its own because if you do not do that you will never have
enough money to pay the bonds back. The bonds are not a slam dunk, the
bonding company is not going to be able to sell them or even try to sell them
unless they are pretty sure that they are going to be able to pay the bonds off.
You are kind of between a rock and hard place if you get to small of an area. I
am trying to lay the pattern here, because what I am going to recommend to you
is (inaudible). I n my opinion in order to this be successful, I really think the area
that you define in a resolution is too small to accomplish what we need to do if
the route you take for money is active increment plans. There are other routes to
take, there are other moneys available, but usually those are one shot. I mean
you could write up a - we could go outside and hire an expert and have them
develop a presentation for a grant or whatever moneys are available. We might
- because it is very competitive out there, there are not too many of these
programs available that are used to both state and federal to drastically reduce
the amount of money that is available through there. You might get lucky, and
you might get a half of a million dollars or even one million dollars, but that is not
going to be enough money to have an impact. If you get it, you are going to get it
once. You are not going to be able to go back next year and get it again
because it is so competitive, if it was your attorney that got it this year (inaudible).
What I am suggesting to you and it is only a suggestion. That you table the
resolution and let the Committee put on an informal presentation about why we
think we need a larger area that would take a minimum of an hour of your time to
do it right, and then have you reconsider that and do whatever resolution you
want from that point on, but these resolutions can be amended, there are
provisions for that in a statute, but in my opinion we have been at this since last
June. We have the time to put it off and make our case a little better and a little
more professional than I am able to do at this point. I will add one other thing
and then I will shut up. This is again my personal opinion, I think the key to the
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downtown development of Meridian is a commitment from a part of all of you, the
City Council in particular that this is what you want to do and that has to include
the relocation of City Hall in downtown area. I cannot see - let me replace that, if
that happens, if the City Hall relocates to the downtown area, the growth will be
spurred much more quickly than it will be at this time. If may not be spurred at all
if the location is (inaudible), so there again this is my personal opinion, but I think
you ought to put yourselves in a position to look at all of the opportunities that are
available right now for the downtown location for the City Hall Complex. That
really is a feeling of our Committee as well. We have discussed this at some
length, so I think I am safely speaking for them as well as myself. So with that
point I will answer any questions you might have regarding that.
Bird: Ron.
Anderson: Gentlemen, I am trying to understand, maybe you can help me
understand a little bit better. You talked about that the taxes get frozen at the
level whatever time we set in there, and that becomes the revenue allocation
area?
Johnson: Yes.
Anderson: Then you said all the taxing get their money from what they are
currently getting, and then it is the new growth that is going to occur that is going
to generate the moneys for the Urban Renewal District and that they go out and
sell bonds. How do they figure out or is that just kind of a guess about how much
new growth is going to occur and how much bonds they can go out and sell
there?
Johnson: In order to sell the bonds, we have to provide the bonding company
and the City Council and everyone else with a very detailed plan about we plan
to do and where we plan to do it at. Because without that plan we do not have a
pray. It has to be very specific with blocks or areas designated that you want to
improve and how you want to improve them. There are a couple of exceptions to
that freeze, by the way. The School Districts are exempted from that. ACHD
was never perceptive to tax increment financing (inaudible). The reason the
Cities and some of the other tax amenities no longer fight it like they use to is
because of the 3 percent cap. A 3 percent cap applies to the budget not the
taxes. In an area that is growing as fast like Meridian, you have the flexibility of
either the percentage (inaudible) or the 3 percent cap, so if you have a 6 percent
growth in Meridian, that is about what we have 5 or 6 percent, the golden ponded
cap, which only makes sense with the growth (inaudible) efficient services, you
need that. There are exemptions for some of the tax amenities (inaudible), so
they would continue to get the new growth as well. Their portion would be
(inaudible ).
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Anderson: And then you indicated that these Urban Renewal Districts are tax
increment financing could be collected for 24 years. Do you guys have a
projection on how long you are looking at setting up this Urban Renewal District?
Johnson: We are nowhere near that point. In order to get to that point first we
have to go get the designated plan and talk to the money people. We already
have some people coming in from Wells Fargo who have done this sort of thing
before in Pocatello and Twin Falls. We do have to present a very detailed plan to
them before they can begin to go out and sell a bond, but I can tell with the
length of the bonds in this City, they vary from a carry of 11 years up to 20 years
depending on the amounts. Some of those bonds are as small as $545,000 and
some are as large as $8,250,000, so they vary in size. The other thing is they do
different districts and different bonds, so you could have more than one district
being bonded at the same time. Boise has kind of done theirs in stages and
districts as well. Each time you go into a new district and you have to come back
to the City with a new plan for approval (inaudible) the bonding company so it is a
whole new project. (Inaudible) If this whole Urban Renewal thing as I get into it-
let me tell you something, I am a modern European History thinker, I am way out
in my field here, so I have just been reading about this more or less. I am not an
expert on it, but the more I read about it, it takes a lot of foresight. You have to
look down the road a long time; you have to look down the road 10, 15, 20 years
to try and visualize what we want Meridian to be. If this is not the mechanism
you want to use to get there then I (inaudible). We have a special axe to grind
(inaudible) we are appointed by you to be here.
Anderson: I would hope that you are not grinding an axe.
Johnson: I have my own pet peeves too, everybody does.
Bird: Does anyone have any questions for Mr. Johnson?
De Weerd: I never knew you had an opinion. I think it is very reasonable to have
the Committee come in and present the boundaries and the rational behind that,
and I would look forward to that presentation. I know you have put a lot of effort
into this, and I do not see any urgency to set this tonight.
Johnson: We have a meeting scheduled for tomorrow morning, and if you agree
that that is the route you want to take then I would take that to the Committee in
the morning and get a Committee to give a presentation at your convenience.
Probably as soon as possible.
Bird: It will be the second Tuesday in April before we can do it at a workshop.
Johnson: That will probably work.
De Weerd: You do not the fourth week? Is that already full?
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Bird: The fourth week is a regular Council meeting it is not a workshop. We
need to discuss this at a workshop. We can give them an hour for a
presentation. I would be in favor of bringing it back at the next workshop, the
second Tuesday of April, giving them one hour.
Johnson: That would probably give us the time we need to get prepared for that.
I am sure we want to bring in some overheads.
De Weerd: Mr. President?
Bird: Yes, Tammy.
De Weerd: I believe that there were some questions raised also about the lease
option. Have you talked to Jim about what your questions were or the City
Attorney?
Bird: No, Mr. Nichols is going to -
Nichols: We are still working on it.
Bird: They are still working on that. I am not for that lease option unless I am
100 percent sure that it cannot be sold out from underneath us or something like
that. I think the key word there is permanent.
Anderson: What does that mean?
Bird: We both have the same question. I have a real question on that, but
anyway if it is agreeable with the Council we will put this on the agenda item for
the workshop the second Tuesday of April and designate one hour.
(Inaudible Discussion.)
Bird: What is the date of the second Tuesday?
Anderson: The 10th. I just feel like for me, myself, I just want to know more of
the ins and outs and the intricacies of establishing one of these so that I can
hopefully make a more informed decision about whether we are doing the right
thing or what.
Johnson: I read the minutes from your meeting for the resolution and I could tell
from that that there was some confusion about (inaudible) we have changed our
boundary to a radius and some were concerned it might cut a lot, that is not the
plan that is the area. That would never happen of course. If you have a plan
come to you that cuts a lot of hands, I was just giving that as a larger area -
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McCandless: I am curious about that. When we talked about boundaries we
were talking about from Cherry Lane and Fairview to Franklin and fourth to
fourth. Why would you think that was too small? I do not disagree with you, I am
just wondering.
Johnson: No, it is not even my considered opinion. It is the opinion of the people
that have been through this process that there is not enough within that area to
run (inaudible). That is the key to some of this development. Most of that area is
by residential or small business and office that sort of thing. The guy minds that
we are trying to follow is to try to get as much as you can for obvious reasons,
and that is why there are trade offs, there are going to be sacrifices for awhile.
Sacrifices that are somewhat diminished by changes in the law within the Taxing
District. There is a whole behind this as to what happens because once they
frozen in that area, and taxes might slightly increase in areas where it is not
frozen. If you are increasing your Mill Levy, which I hope you do because I think
it is sorely needed.
Anderson: And my concerns, I mean I understand why you would want to have a
large area and you want some area that is undeveloped right now so that it will
generate more revenue as we have been talking a lot here lately, we feel like the
residential growth that occurs does not provide the funding quick enough for us
to keep up with the City services. So we have really been trying to make an
effort clear back as far as when you were on the Planning and Zoning to get
more commercial growth, and we are just starting to reap the benefits of that. I
do not want to take a big chunk of that and dedicate it all to the Urban Renewal
so we do not have a catch up on those City services.
Johnson: There is always going to be separate schools of thought. I think there
are people that are better equipped to answer that. (Inaudible) I know there are
trade-offs.
De Weerd: There are trade-offs because it does draw other industry.
Johnson: But you have to be dually farsighted and see the benefits way down
the road for the sacrifices you made now. (Inaudible)
De Weerd: And a lot of that too because of the 3 percent cap you are not going
to realize it anyway. So this way it goes in and it still is benefiting the
development of the community.
Anderson: Because any new growth you get above and beyond the 3 percent
cap.
De Weerd: Not the following year.
Anderson: Yes you do.
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Bird: Yes you do.
Anderson: Your new growth always counts.
Bird: Okay, Council with your approval we will put this on the April 10, 2001 first
agenda and give it an hour. Okay, we cannot table it.
Issue #4
Discussion of Genera/Insurance Liability Concerns:
Bird: Mr. Johnson do not leave your seat seeing how you are our Insurance
representative. I asked Mr. Johnson to come tonight. I have some real concerns
on our Parks and Recreation program.
De Weerd: Keith, do you want to introduce Boy Scout troop and kind of explain
what a workshop is and why we are so informal?
Bird: Which troop is that, Troop 149? This is not a regular Council meeting; this
is a workshop where we discuss resolutions and all the stuff. We cannot make
any decisions. It is very informal. We have no public input unless they ask, so
that is basically what we are doing here tonight. We appreciate you guys
coming. Do you have any questions for us?
Unidentified: No, not at this moment.
Bird: In about 15, 16 years you will be sitting here. I have some real concerns
on our Recreation program, where we are hiring - and I do not know nobody
seems to have contracts or everybody I have asked, we are taking the money in
and then we are having outside people give the classes. Are we getting
certificate of liability from them because they are a subcontractor? I do not know
so I asked Mr. Johnson to come from ICRMP, representative of ICRMP, and
explain some of this to us. I think we might be sticking our necks out a lot farther
than we would like.
Johnson: Just a couple of basic things and then I will get to Bill Nichols waiver.
We have a contractor with the provider, which is ICRMP. It says you will tell us
everything you do and that is how we arrive at pricing for the insurance. That is
just basic insurance. It is my responsibility to keep ICRMP informed of
everything that is going on in the City. In that regard, one of the things that
brought this to life - we do not have time for a refresher course here. I am
keeping everybody advised on what is going on in the City. I was reading
through the Meridian Parks and Recreation spring/summer 2001 brochure, which
is a really nice brochure. It talked about all of the programs offered and there are
a tremendous number of programs in there. Some of which caught my eye,
things like kickboxing, trampoline gymnastics, and what in an insurance business
is considered real high hazardous stuff because kids get hurt and (inaudible) get
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sued. So in that regard I sent a copy of the brochure to ICRMP and said hey,
these things are going on. Some of them are on owned premise, most of them
are on non-owned premise, tell me what I need to find out so that these people
can be informed about what is going on over here. So the feed back kind of
comes back tell me what kind of contracts they have and what are position is in
these programs, are we just collecting money or are we actually out there
providing instructors, what are we doing? So we need to know all of this stuff in
order to make sure that our rates are adequate. So in that regard there are two
things that readily come to mind: No 1, if we are representing ourselves as
providing the programs, say kickboxing, but we really do not have any role as a
City in conducting the kick boxing class, all we are doing is signing people up and
taking money. Where is our liability? Mr. Nichols will tell you that that is hard to
determine until you go to court. The way you protect yourself on a standard
basis is you get certificates of liability from the people who are providing the
service for the program. Showing that they have insurance and they need either
the City of Meridian as a additional insurer or hqlding us harmless and identifying
the City of Meridian as to any liability. That is kind of a standard procedure in the
insurance business, and then the second thing is to encourage or make
mandatory signing a waiver on participants and I will tell you how this came
about. We have a program going on now in the City of Meridian, I think it is still
going on, is youth basketball. A couple of kids got hurt playing basketball,
sprained their ankles or whatever the standard injury, and they showed up on an
instant claim report which went th~ough the Risk Manager which is Will Berg, City
of Meridian. There is no way on God's green earth that the insurance company
would contemplate paying for participant's injury. Every policy in the world
excludes participants unless you go to (Lloyds Leonard) and buy participants
coverage. Again, the necessity of having a waiver for people to sign saying
basically you are on your own when you sign up for the program you waive
coverage against the City of Meridian. Anyway I have a copy of the letter here
from Bill Nichols, Larry Moore actually, from the same firm, saying we have a
waiver and we think it is sufficient in order to satisfy our needs and I forwarded
that on to ICRMP. So this is really a little speech on a refresher to let us know
and to let Will Berg know, he is the designated risk manager for the City of
Meridian he has been to all of the classes he has gone to a multitude of seminars
on claims reporting, general liability and how it extends to the City. There are
some special things in the law about facts supporting cities. We cannot be sued
as readily as a private sector can because of special exemptions. So that is my
basic point on that. On those programs in particular. I do not know if any other
departments do anything like this. Certainly, we need certificates of insurance
and waivers on everybody that participates, and I am hoping (inaudible), we
should have in place at all times.
Nichols: We have told the Parks and Recreation Department that there needs to
be some sort of waiver on each person, and I guess the question on some of the
Parks and Recreations classes though again, we have a fire fighter who
volunteered time to teach a CPR class through the Parks and Recreation
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Department. That fire fighter does not have a business and has not been paid
any money for it. That is really not the kind of activity that you are looking for a
certificate of insurance.
Johnson: No, it is just something we ought to be advised of that is occurring and
those circumstances can be explained. This participant is just a fellow
volunteering his time providing CPR classes, down the road his product does not
perform and somebody dies and we get sued (inaudible).
Nichols: Well, there is the Good Samaritan Act.
Johnson: Yes, I know there is a Good Samaritan Act, but those - anyway, I am
just gun shy about things going on that we do not know about.
Nichols: There is one thing that arose just last week, City of Boise and their
literature on - are they an ICRMP insured?
Johnson: No, they are self-insured.
Nichols: And their Parks and Recreation brochure says, our policy is that you
cannot participate unless you waive us release us from liability, and we are
hereby advising you that that is our policy and that if you participate you have
accepted this, it is a required acceptance of our release of liability, it is in the
documents. I do not -
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Nichols: These waivers, I am not so sure how much they have helped them.
They really do not keep you from getting sued in most cases. It is just one thing
that we can use as an additional defense. If somebody is intent on suing
because you are grossly negligent, something like that.
Johnson: It is kind of like buying a ticket when you go in a theatre and on the
back of it is a release of liability if there is a fire in the theatre, it does not mean
they will not get sued. Anyway, that is the point I wanted to make on that, and
then if I could just touch on two or three other things and then I will be through.
Anderson: Before we go on I have question. Would it be feasible to have - if
you are contracting with somebody else to provide the service, if it a trampoline
class or if it is basket weaving 101 and it is off premise, is it reasonable to ask
them to provide an insurance coverage for the participants that are going to
come in those activities? These are kind of deep pocket theories. If somebody
trips walking up the steps to go into somebody's house who is taking a class on
aroma therapy and those people do not have any money then naturally they are
going to come back and sue the City, especially if they could not claims taken
care of. I know you can buy insurance for participants. I was the Secretary of
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Treasure at the Idaho State Fire School for 12 years, and every year we bought
an accident policy that would cover those participants up to x amount of money if
they were injured during that event.
Johnson: Those are strictly accident exceptions. You can get into areas of
liability that are much higher. Your accident policy that you provided was
$50,000, $25,000.
Anderson: But that is what most people want -
Johnson: But that does not give you any coverage for loses of consortium or
pain and suffering.
Anderson: I was dumb-founded even when I contacted you even with the March
for Parks thing, and found out as volunteer and getting blown off of a barbecue
and getting lit on fire, well gee thanks for volunteering, but you are not covered
by anything. Pay your own medical claims too.
Johnson: That is why all of the little league programs in the valley soccer,
baseball, and whatever all have an accident policy. They are required to do all.
It is set limit and it helps.
Anderson: So is it reasonable to ask for something like that?
Bird: We should.
Johnson: I do not know if it is a reasonable one or not. It would probably
economically discourage people for doing things. So you would have to weigh
that as how important basket weaving 101 (inaudible). Just a couple of other
items we are trying to update our driver's list. There has been some damage to
some (inaudible), so what I have is just some blank forms I want to give Will if I
can and hope that the department manager will get them filled out. We need to
really update that. We are behind on terminations (inaudible).
Bird: We have got 3, 4, 5 of them right here. You guys will get that taken care
of?
Johnson: I will give these to Will so he can get them to you. Just quickly, any
time you dispose of equipment, like a vehicle or something, we need to know that
because it comes off of your insurance costs. Often times when new vehicles
are purchased and then they are designated to replace a vehicle, but some time
before you sell, you call me they are both on there and you are getting charged
for two when you really should only be getting charged for one. We go back as
far as we can on them, but sometimes it has been a year or so. I am working
with Rita on that, she is very good on that, so we have a better system now than
we ever had before. Adding new stuff, Kenny is very good he calls me on
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everything, but not all of the Department heads are in tune to that. I would just
reemphasis the need for that. Land Acquisitions sometimes the City either
receives through donation land or they buy land and it just sits there, you still
have a liability on it when it is just sitting there, some kid can out there and drive
a 4-wheeler or a motorcycle on it, that sort of thing could happen. It is not that
remote, so I think that anytime the City acquires property (inaudible). That is
basically all I have. Unless anybody has any questions. Obviously, anytime
there is an incident that you think is going to be a claim that needs to be reported
as soon as possible.
Bird: Any questions for Mr. Johnson regarding our insurance?
McCandless: Land Acquisitions, does that include say a certain amount of land
that in the middle of a subdivision zone or a park?
Johnson: Right, matter of fact the last 2 or 3 we put on have been near a
pathway or donated by the developer to be a future park or something that was
actually deeded to the City, so as soon as that happens the City has the liability
(inaudible ).
Bird: Any other questions? Thank you for coming Jim.
Johnson: You bet.
Issue #5
Discussion of Area of Impact Proposed Changes:
Stiles: We kind of went over these last meeting, and I do not know really what
response they are expecting.
De Weerd: Did Grant say what form of response he expected from us?
Bird: A written letter from a Council agreeing -
De Weerd: We cannot do that.
Bird: We cannot do that at this meeting now.
Stiles: Do you know what the two areas where that you were discussing
(inaudible) one property that dealt with the Muir Woods and then the other one
would have been that Winston Moore? One was Winston Moore and the other
Wilt Wanners Muir Woods over off of Cloverdale and Victory. The third one
would be over where the Boise Lynnex Golf Course is. I meant to get with Bill
and go over this and see what you might want. Our main concern is if agree to
any of this what impact is it going to have on our Comprehensive Plan and is it
something the City of Meridian should consider a change to its map. I have
gotten different opinions from Boise City and Ada County on that, so I do not
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know - Bill is there anybody in your office that has experience with that changing,
area of impact?
Nichols: I think Terry does and Chris Ney does in terms of -- Chris was involved
with the City of Homadale and their negotiation in the area of impact with
Owyhee County. It would impact the zoning map, would it not?
Stiles: The land use map?
Nichols: We are looking at a Comprehensive Plan process for the amendment of
Comprehensive Plan (inaudible) to actually adopt it.
Stiles: So our approach would just be to come up with a draft for you. I do not
know if we can by the next City Council meeting. Jonathon Seele back up again
on that Winston Moore piece. Do you think we will have anytime to do anything
by the 20th, by Friday?
Nichols: I can ask questions whether or not I will get any answers. I may ask the
questions tomorrow morning.
De Weerd: So the suggestion would be to run it concurrently with the
Comprehensive Plan.
Stiles: If it will -
De Weerd: If that is what we want to do.
Stiles: -- constitutes a change in our land use map, which would normally be
every 6 months.
Nichols: Actually, if you have a changing series that will impact, you will have to
(inaudible ).
Stiles: Trisha Nielsen seems to think it does not impact it. AI Simmons did not
know. I will call Wayne Gibbs tomorrow and see if - I thought AI would have
been the one to -
Bird: I have not been real clear on the take I heard (inaudible) if that is what you
are discussing -
Stiles: Trisha Nielsen is a Long-Range Planner for Ada County, and AI Simmons
is a long-range Planner for Boise City. Then Wayne Gibbs is Planning Director
for Boise City. So I really have been trying to find out about this will serve letter
that Jonathon is asking for, and I do not know where to request is coming from
because Ada County claims they do not it and Boise City says they do not need
it.
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Bird: I think that basically the change of impact as understood through Grant is
we have to write a letter stating that we will accept this land as our impact period,
and release.
Stiles: So maybe if we can find out if we can do that and not actually change the
map. It sounds like they are just going ahead with Boise City with whatever they
need to do there anyway.
Bird: I would suggest that if you get it by the 20th great if not we will have to wait
until the 27th. We cannot make decisions.
Stiles: You cannot make decisions or can you?
Bird: The 27th.
De Weerd: We could do it on the 27th?
Anderson: Yes because it is not a single applicant.
Stiles: It is a true City Council meeting -
Bird: So we could do it then?
Anderson: I was thinking just a letter that would say that the Meridian Mayor and
City Council are in agreement with the proposed land changes in the area of
impact.
Stiles: If they all are.
Nichols: I mean yes that is the first question. All of them around the table did not
say whether or not they are, and the second thing is the actual process the letter
does not change anything. Technically under the statute it is a negotiated
process with regard to where those boundaries are. So here we are talking
about more than just - is it just Meridian and Boise or Eagle. So we have three
cities plus the county, and I think what they are looking for is this is acceptable to
us or not because if it is acceptable then the process is each one of the entities
has to change an Ordinance. That is where we get into changing (inaudible)
Bird: So you are saying we need to take the gist out?
Nichols: Yes, I mean you can see if anybody has any problems with any of these
things, say so.
Bird: Cherie, Tammy?
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De Weerd: Yes and no. I understand all of them I just do not know about the will
serve letter is something totally different than this is. I do not mind taking the 12
acres in, but I am still not sure if I am in agreement with what is being proposed.
Anderson: If they do not give us this letter then they do not want it.
De Weerd: Right, they do not want it.
Anderson: This 12 acres coming into here-
Nichols: That is one of the complaints on the annexation bill was that the area of
impact negotiations between the political entities, the cities and the county and
the owners of the property have to have input into the classes at some stage
(inaudible). So I guess what I am saying to you is if you think this is acceptable
then it is very possible that this could be done even if Mr. Moore says I do not
want to be out. Possibility is to consider if as long as the property is okay with it,
we are okay with it.
Bird: I think that is basically what we are asking about. (Inaudible)
De Weerd: I have not had a chance to listen to that tape deck is there (inaudible)
Anderson: No that was about something else, relating to this No.6.
De Weerd: I just have a lot of questions, I am not sure I understand it well.
Discussion Inaudible
Bird: Council, do you want to write a letter draft -
De Weerd: I think we need to know if by changing it if we need to run it
concurrently with the Comprehensive Plan because if we approve it now and
does constitute a change. We cannot do anything on that Comprehensive Plan
for 6 months.
Stiles: Does the state code say that the Commission cannot make a
recommended change to Land Use map more recently than every 6 months?
Nichols: I think it is that you cannot adopt a change more than every 6 months.
Stiles: I do not if it changed, but I thought before it said the Commission can
recommend a change -
Discussion Inaudible
McCandless: When is that supposed to be adopted?
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De Weerd: Sometime this summer.
Bird: Okay, what is your pleasure Council?
Anderson: To draft a letter for contingence upon if it does not mess up adoption
of our Comprehensive Plan.
Issue #6
Discussion of Ada County Subdivision Applications:
Bird: YouJre on again, Shari.
Stiles: Well, we have not seen any yet, but we are told that we can expect on in
the next two weeks. Again, not having been able to get with Bill, not that I tried to
call you and you did not respond.
Nichols: Thank you.
Stiles: I guess what we would suggest is that they already have Larry Moore
working on some research.
Nichols: Let me kind of tell you what I have in mind. We believe that we are
going to receive a number of applications for urban density subdivision inside the
area of impact. We have not had a consistent way of reviewing those
applications in sufficient timely fashions to provide meaning full comment to Ada
County Planning Commission. So I talked with Shari about - I mean that is the
reason we are on here, we had a mind which was to develop an approach to take
with regard to what things to look for in these applications inside the area of
impact for which state code says we can comment. The area of impact within
Ada County says that we can comment, so that we can provide a meaningful
response. We have had some in the past year that I have been attending
Council meetings that they tend to come to us with insufficient information and
the county, I am not sure if you get a full copy of the application or at least get a
request for comment. That says you have received the application. What Shari
and I have talked about is coming up with a consistent approach regarding
information, like staff needs to do, what I mean when I say staff is Shari's office,
Mayor's office, Gary's office, and any other affected agency with site specific, so
they look at these applications so the comments can be provide so that that is in
the record (inaudible). If there are some of these that we feel are inappropriate,
take it off and say so. There are none right now that we are aware of that
specifically (inaudible)
Bird: Shari do you have anything to add to it?
Stiles: (inaudible)
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Anderson: Listening to that tape that one gal that you were talking about that
works for Ada County. It almost sounded to me like because she is used to
dealing with develops that are outside of cities. The requirements are actually
tied to existing City sewer lines, but she does not understand the significance of
those lines being laid to a certain elevation and then you just pick a spot and go
out 2 or 3 miles from your existing sewer lines, she just seems to think - the
impression I got from the tape is you could just put them in at any elevation as
long as they all fall one direction --
Stiles: That was Sharon Almond.
Anderson: -- and that you could just pipe to it, and then you could put in a lift
station. It seemed to me like somebody needed to really spend a little time - and
I did not hear Gary's voice on the tape so maybe he was not there. Somebody
needs to explain at least to her the problems with lift stations and the reasons
why you just cannot go out there in the middle of anywhere and start a
development because those elevations - if you run into some difficult terrain or
whatever, they can change a few inches and if all of the sudden you have a
hump in the middle it is not going to work. That was a concern I had when I
listened to that tape. I think it sound like Roger Simmons sounds like he was in
supportive of the developments waiting until they were contiguous and until the
City was ready to annex them and Grant was like, go put in water and sewer and
he is fine with it.
Stiles: No what he said was go ahead and annex it.
Anderson: Which did not show a lot of insight to me that - Roger Simmons was
the only one that talked about and understanding that it takes more than water
and sewer to make a City and to make a community. I had concerns about the
other two Commissioners and it sounded like we needed to do some addition
education with them otherwise they may be prone to approve these types of
developments.
Bird: Any other comments, Council? Thank you Shari. If you want to get
something drawn up for us if you want to come back to the next workshop.
Stiles: When is the next one?
Bird: The 10th of April, yours will probably be a long presentation because we are
giving an hour to Urban Renewal --
De Weerd: I think that the meeting that we had with the County Commissioners
last June, they were very supportive of our area of impact and that the City would
plan that area of impact and as long as we stayed with our commitment to
servicing that area within that 10 year period which we have 7 years left, that
they felt comfortable continuing along that line. Yes, we have only had one
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commission member change since then and I agree with Ron. I think she needs
to spend some time with Gary or yourself and understand what Ron picked up in
the conversation with the staff, and maybe we need to meet with them again and
really get a firmer idea of - and they said that they would meet with us on regular
basis.
Bird: I think we ought to meet quarterly with them because our area of impact is
becoming a busy place out there (inaudible)
De Weerd: And also to let the Development Community know what our plans
are. What is the time frame on the North Slough and those kinds of things? I
think by kind of setting out a time-line that is going to help us with our
relationships with the developments and maybe reducing the amount of
applications and firming up our commitment to them as well as to the county to
service that area.
Bird: We can ask the Mayor to set up another general meeting. I am like Ron,
on the tape it had different views then what we had sitting here in our meeting
with them. They were all going to let the City plan their deals and -
De Weerd: I know our department heads have a lot of concerns and certainly not
just in our development services, in our police and fire. I know our fire services
regardless, but it makes a difference.
Anderson: It does make a difference the density because your run volume goes
up tremendously there, and it is different if it is developed right now in rural
because that equates to x number of calls. When all of sudden you develop that
urban density, then it is no longer a matter that you can handle to occasional call
out there because then you have to have a fire station and personnel there and
that is what they all seem to be missing the concept of.
Bird: Any other deals? Thank you.
Anderson: I agree with Tammy. Maybe when we have the meeting with them it
might be good to do that either at the waste treatment plant or have Gary and his
staff put on a little demonstration about what our plan servicing of those areas is.
Because we know what that plan is, we sat down and went through that, but they
do not know what that plan is, so like Tammy is saying, they are kind of out there
in the dark thinking if Meridian is not going to do it, then we will do something for
them. So if they were informed about what our plan is then they might be more
likely to support us in sticking with us.
Bird: I agree with you Ron.
Issue #7
Discussion of Update of Water and Sewer Fees:
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Bird: Gary, the Council was wondering how the update on our water and sewer
fees are coming. I know you are a very busy man.
Smith: Brad has a few (inaudible) that he is putting together. (Inaudible) but I
will have something.
Bird: I would prefer if Brad could get his presentation to us in writing and thus
putting it on the agenda for the next planning session of the 10th.
De Weerd: Shari Stiles can you also have something available on your
department's fee increases at our next workshop? I am sorry to interrupt you.
Stiles: Inaudible
De Weerd: Do you want us to act on that? You said they were-
Stiles: If you have any comments or suggestions -
De Weerd: Well, perhaps you could present it again and if you could get any of
your questions for Shari prior to that. Does everyone still have a copy of that? If
you could review and get any comments to Shari we can revisit it next month
again.
Bird: Let us do that. What we are talking on the water and sewer is basically
new fees, so they will not have Public Hearings anyway. Shari can you get them.
We do have the paper and everything, but can you get that so can we can have a
little presentation and refresh our memories.
Stiles: We have monitored our workload and how we spent our time for two
months, so we have that information. (Inaudible).
De Weerd: And Shari you were going to run that through VCA as well, were you
not? Didn't they say they would review those for you?
Stiles: I do not know.
De Weerd: We will talk about it.
(I naudible Discussion.)
McCandless: We are not close in proximity to any other meetings.
Anderson: The other thought I have is not only Gary's department talking about
the water and sewer and the plans that they have, but I think we should instruct
the department heads from the Parks, Police, and the Fire to put together a
presentation on what kind of problems is creates for their department. When you
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go outside and have this little spot annexation because those department heads
who do not articulate very well to us and to county Commissioners as to what
kind of problems it causes for them.
McCandless: I like that idea.
Bird: We could get that.
De Weerd: I think it is a school issue too because you cannot have a school out
in the middle of nowhere either so - two huge subdivisions.
Bird: We will get our part taken care of.
Discussion Inaudible
Bird: I think we have covered our future topics for the next meeting. We have
the list as to what we are going to have down there. We are going to have Mr.
Johnson and his Committee in for one hour that is going to last 1-% hours. We
are also going to have the fee structures from Gary and Shari brought before us.
We are going to have I guess the discussion of the area if we do not get that
taken care of, we are going to get that taken care of the 20th.
Nichols: This area of impact, the letter-which is a corollary issue. The area of
impact issue is related to that.
Bird: That is about all, because you know we are going to - Urban Renewal is
going to have to be gone over with a fine tooth comb to make sure that we get
everything, it is going to last over an hour.
Berg: This comment, the Mayor asked me to set up a special meeting for next
Tuesday at 6 p.m. to have COMPASS do a presentation and get some feed back
dealing with the 1-84 corridor. Gary sent out a memo about an open house that
ITP was going to have that Wednesday so they wanted us to have some
information on Tuesday and get some input, so that will be 6 p.m. I will send out
a reminder for a half of an hour earlier.
Bird: Thank you Will, anything else from your department?
Unidentified Speaker: Will, you sent me over this private security service system,
do you think it needs to be revised?
Berg: I need you to look through it because I think it some updated material
there.
Unidentified: This is essentially something that licenses private security firms.
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Berg: There is some confusion about security company and particular agents
and control officers, some things that I think need to be cleaned up to make it
clear and more understanding. I just want to discuss that with you after you have
been able to go over it. I guess I can give you some updates on elections. Bill
sent you kind of a draft resolution, and I went through it will some different things
and concepts and also going back to the discussion about the county running
elections. I talked to Dave Navarro today, and the county really does not want to
run elections. They will assist and help on certain aspects, but they will not
necessarily contract and run the whole election. They go back to the state
statutes which say the City Clerk will be the election officer and it is up to them to
make sure everything runs smoothly, so as far as hiring judges and clerks,
overseeing the election, making sure it is all set up, that is still the cities
responsibility. That is how they run it with Boise and Garden City. At Boise they
do a few more things, but it is a very large election for them. At this same time
on May 22, Boise is running another election dealing with the foothills issues, and
they will have all 92 precincts in full force for elections. So about the only thing
that the county will do will be reprogram and count punch cards. So I am talking
with Dave Navarro about that to see if it is any faster. We are going to have one
ballot issue. Obviously, he says it is cheaper to do paper ones but does not
know if it would save any time placing taking them in there and having them
counted. Obviously, if all we do is just count the cards that can be done very
fast. 1 000 and so many minutes, but you have to get them there, you have to
have them in line after Boise's precincts, and so it may not be as fast as what we
could do. So we are still researching that out. I will get with Bill on the
resolution.
Nichols: There are a couple of errors.
Berg: But there are a few other things, if we are going to have 4 precincts this
time instead of 3 like we had at the last election. Dave advised me that we will
probably have a bigger turn out when it comes to your pocket book rather than
Councilor mayor elections. So he said prepare for a bigger turnout. We had
talked before about having 4 precincts this next time, so maybe this would be an
indication of how to set those up.
De Weerd: I know that Ron and the Mayor were going to pull some strategy
together. I really think we need to form a Citizens Committee. This really needs
to be done by the City citizens, and I know a number of them were talking about
during the budget. I also did talk to the Parks Commission last night, and they
are very interested in getting involved. Jim Keller, who has been involved on
certainly the school bonds, is more than happy to serve on focus group.
Bird: Tammy why do you not do the Committee?
De Weerd: I am not doing the Committee. I am doing too many committees.
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Bird: Well, get yourself a Committee Councilman Anderson.
Anderson: I need more direction. I do not know what you are talking about. Are
you talking to do -?
De Weerd: The Mill Levy, outreach, get people supporting it and those that do
get them to the polls. I think Jim Keller would be a real asset since he has done
the bonds.
Anderson: That was just something that I think the Mayor threw together that
night and said Ron and I will work on that. He has never had any discussions
with me or ideas.
De Weerd: Well, you better start with it. Time is short.
Bird: Chief Gordon do you have anything?
Gordon: No, I do not.
Bird: Thank you, Chief Bowers any thing more?
Bowers: No.
Bird: Mr. Smith?
Smith: Nothing, sir.
Bird: Mrs. Stiles, I think she has gone home. Anybody from the public with
anything? A question or anything you want to ask? Thank you for coming. We
appreciate you coming out and listening to us. Council, does anybody have
anything?
McCandless: I have a question.
Bird: Okay, Cherie.
McCandless: And it is merely a question because I do not how they work this.
The Human Resources Budget, do they put ads in papers in different states? Do
they not pay for that? Should it not come out of the (inaudible)?
Bird: No, no it comes out of the department looking for an applicant. Fire
Department, if the police is looking for someone they have to put - it comes out
of their budget.
McCandless: But it was not budgeted.
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Anderson: It is not budgeted in the HR either.
Bird: It is not budgeted in HR.
Anderson: So if you anticipate doing hiring or advertising you need to budget for
it.
McCandless: That is the first time I have ever heard of that. They do not do that
in private enterprises.
Nichols: Sometimes you do not anticipate, so you need to make sure you have
something in your budget to cover it.
Bird: Cherie goes; whoever is wanting the applicant pays the advertising. HR
does it for them, but they do not pay the advertising budget. It comes out of that
department. That has always been the policy that I knew of.
McCandless: I have just never heard of that before. If that is the policy then that
is the policy.
Anderson: Well, we should make all of the Department heads aware of that,
though.
McCandless: Absolutely.
Anderson: So they know that.
Bird: Well, I think up until they did their own thing because we did not have an
HR. Each Department went out and sent out there own applications for
employment, but now it is all run through HR. I am sure some of them assume
that is where it is getting paid for, but it is out of the Department budgets.
Anderson: It is one of those things that some people took for granted. They
would know it and other people did not.
De Weerd: Mr. President, I am working on the newsletter that needs to go out
this month. I went to the Department head meeting today and asked if they had
anything to submit, to get that to me. If there are any topics you want to have in
there, I will try and have a draft at our meeting on Tuesday and see what you
think.
Unidentified: This is geared to the employees?
De Weerd: The employee newsletter.
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Unidentified: You should probably have something about this Mill Levy coming
up, so they can pass the word on about how important it is. That may take some
time.
De Weerd: Can you pull that together?
Bird: Any other topics Council?
De Weerd: Just a couple of dates that I picked up at the meeting this morning. It
looks like Generations Plaza 2 will be opening late May, early June.
Bowers: They will plan the grand opening on June 2nd that is what we are
talking about for the Fire Station.
De Weerd: June 2nd? I have mid-May.
Bowers: Everybody mark that out for the grand opening of the station too.
De Weerd: Finance Director interviews will start the week of March 26th.
Contract negotiations begin this week, and new fire fighters will be hired on April
2.
Bird: Anything else?
Berg: Did everybody get on their calendar when the Ale conference is? Yes it is
in the middle of the month.
Berg: The Mayor's breakfast is the 21st, did everyone-
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De Weerd: The Chamber gave the City a set amount of tickets.
Bird: Okay, anything else?
Berg: As I mentioned before, we need to set up a date for our public hearing for
our budget so we need to get your vacation schedules and kind of meet and
figure out what date we can do it. I have to have that in by April 30th. The sooner
we can plan it then you guys can plan around it.
De Weerd: And speaking of the budget, I think that last year we kind of took a
step that needed to be done, but we did not follow through with it. That is goal
setting. I know we have been postponing the strategic planning until we have a
finance director, but I really feel strongly that we need to set some City goals and
then have the Department heads set their goals and see how they mesh together
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and maybe help with prioritizing them. I am one of those people that believe in
goal setting.
Bird: Council, I want to remind you -
De Weerd: But we have to do the Cities.
Bird: -- we need to make sure that we read our Ordinance, in the Ordinance
each Council liaison is responsible for evaluating the Department head they are
over and you do the raises. I brought this up last year. It is not the Mayor that
does it; it is the Council. You read your Ordinance.
McCandless: I just read it.
Anderson: The Mayor asked last year when he was doing them if anybody had -
Bird: That is right.
Anderson: -- and I gave him some on Kenny, but no one else gave him any
input.
Bird: I gave him all of mine.
McCandless: I was told to sit in on the evaluation but never was told when it
was.
De Weerd: Yes, me neither.
Anderson: I would put in writing if you have input and just give it to the Mayor,
because I know they incorporated what I said with Kenny.
Bird: I think they did with mine as well, but anyone just take care of it. That
should be part of budget process, is their wages. So we need to make sure we
get that done.
McCandless: Well now our budget hearings, we did ones for the year from each
department. We had that in the middle of the summer last year.
Bird: But we need to work with our people so that we do not come in and give a
bunch of big surprises. Everybody knows how tight we are going to be. We
should as liaisons help the Department heads. Gary has always showed me the
budget and they have always been very conservative. We know what we are
going to have. We are not going to have much more than we had last year.
Anderson: Well, we need to wait and see if the Mill Levy increase passes and
then depending on what happens with that then we need to sit down and have a
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budget workshop with just the Council and then decide what direction we are
going to give to the Department heads. If we are going to say stick to a 3 percent
increase and no personnel or x number of personnel, we need to give them more
direction. I think we have done a poor job of providing direction in the past.
Nichols: I would encourage you to try and do that in advance of this election,
because if you can say to the voters, we anticipate this would raise x number of
dollars, this is where we would plan to spend it. Some of the high priority areas
that you have. I would suspect that people are more likely to vote in favor of
something that they knew for sure where the money was going.
McCandless: You know a friend of mine said that to me the other day. That they
would like to come to the Public Hearing and find out exactly where the extra was
going to go to, and if they were funding like public safety for instance better than
we have. They want to know.
Bird: That is not a bad idea. I think we need to look into having a couple
meetings off of Tuesday, maybe a little shorter session.
De Weerd: So Keith, we need you to then ask the Mayor not only to set up the
meeting with the County Commissioners and have our presentations, but also to
follow up with the focus group. See if we can get it heavy on citizens to help rise
that Mill Levy, get a goal setting session going here and we really need to have
him ask the Department heads to start working on the budgets.
Bird: Like Ron said, we need to tell them how much we are going to give them.
Anderson: We need to direct them before they spend a lot of hours working on a
budget.
McCandless: As far as my schedule is concerned I will be missing the 15th of
May.
Bird: Well we need to get this taken care of.
McCandless: I will be gone between the 9th and the 16th of May. Other than that
I will be here until September.
Bird: Okay, anything else? If not, I would entertain a motion to adjourn.
Anderson: Second.
Bird: Moved and seconded. All in favor?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
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Bird: We will adjourn, 8:15 p.m.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:15 P.M.
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Alan K. Marchbanks
Scott R. Haxton
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Meridian Fire Dept
540 E. Franklin Rd.
Meridian, ID 83642
Re: Appraisal of
Vacant Site
2401 North Ten Mile Road
Meridian, Idaho
MS-5729-01
Dear Mr. Bowers:
In accordance with your request and for the purpose of estimating the present market value of the
above-captioned property. I have made investigations and analyses of matters believed to be pertinent to
the estimation of its present market value.
Subject to the assumptions and limiting conditions set forth and based on information retained in our
files and ~ttached hereto, the market value of the subject property. as of February 6, 2001, was estimated
to have been:
***NINETY-EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS"'"
***($98,000) ***
That estimate considers the subject site with typical availability of utilities, existing zoning, and
adaptable usage. It can be noted that the Meridian City/Rural Fire Department building is presently under
construction at this location, but is not a part of this appraisal assignment
This is a summary appraisal report which is intended to comply with the reporting requirements set
forth under Standards Rule 2-2(b) of the Uniform Standards of Professional Appraisal Practice for a
summary appraisal report As such, it presents only summary discussions of the data, reasoning, and
analyses that were used in the appraisal process to develop the appraiser's opinion of value. Supporting
documentation concerning the data, reasoning, and analyses is retained in the appraiser's file pertinent to
this property and attached hereto. The depth of discussion contained in this report is specific to the needs
of the client and for the intended use stated later in this report. The appraiser is not responsible for
unauthorized use of this report
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Memo
To: Mayor Robert Corrie, City Council Members
From: Chief Ken W. Bowers
Date: March 9,2001
Re: 1973 Ford Fire Truck
Meridian Fire Department needs to surplus some of our fire vehicles. We have a
1973 Ford American LaFrance Fire Truck serial #213325, which is owned by the City
of Meridian. Meridian Fire Department would like the City to donate this vehicle to
Lowman Fire Department, Lowman, Idaho. They are just starting a Fire Department
in their area and have limited funds available for vehicles or equipment. Meridian
Fire Department had an appraisal on this vehicle by Hughes Fire Equipment. First
thil19 they said was there is not a lot of interest in this style of truck. The estimated
value came back at around $8,000.00. Caldwell Fire Department had a similar style
of truck and they had a difficult time getting rid of it, it took several months. OUf truck
does need some repair work, but for a department that would go on 1 0 to 20
emergencies calls a year, this truck would be adequate. According to Idaho State
Law Section 50-1405, a city can exchange or gift, real or personal property. This
truck would workout very well, if some of Meridian residents living in or visiting this
area ever had an emergency. If you have any questions, please contact me.
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MEMORANDUM
To: William G. Berg, Jr.
Subject:
Urban Renewal Area Resolution
Date:
March 9,2001
Attached you will find the original of the Urban Renewal Area
Resolution, along with the attached map of the area. This matter will be discussed at
the March 13th Workshop, and then placed upon the City Council agenda for March
20,2001. Please make sure copies are distributed to the Mayor and Council
members.
If you have any questions please advise.
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RESOLUTION NO.
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN,
IDAHO, DETERMINING CERTAIN PROPERTY DESCRIBED BELOW TO BE
A DETERIORATED AREA OR A DETERIORATING AREA OR A
COMBINATION THEREOF AND DESIGNATING SUCH AREA AS
APPROPRIATE FORAN URBAN RENEWAL PROJECT.
BE IT RESOL YED BY'THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO:
WHEREAS, the area described below contains land which has a predominance
of defective or inadequate street layout, faulty lot layout in relation to size, adequacy,
accessibility or usefulness, diversity of ovvnership, or a combination of such factors,
resulting in economic underdevelopment of the area which substantially impairs or
arrests the sound growth of the City of Meridian; and
WHEREAS, the area described below contains land which is predominantly
open and which has diversity of ovvnership, resulting in economic underdevelopment
of the area or substantially impairs or arrests the sound gro'Wth of the City of
Meridian.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOL YED BY THE MAYOR AND CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO, AS FOLLOWS:
SECTION I: That the area shovvn on the map, which is attached hereto
and incorporated herein by reference, is determined to be a deteriorated area or a
deteriorating area, or a combination thereof.
SECTION 2: That the area described above is designated as appropriate
for an urban renewal project, and shall be knovvn as Urban Renewal Area # I.
SECTION 3: That the Mayor and City Council hereby find it necessary
and advisable, in order to assure orderly economic development that the above
described area, and is in the public interest for management and sound growth, to
designate the above area to be known as Urban Renewal Area # 1.
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PASSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO,
this day of , 2001.
APPROVED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO, this
day of ,2001.
By:
Mayor Robert D. Corrie
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March 6, 2001
APPLICANT Planning and Zoning Dept. - Shari Stiles
REQUEST Proposed Changes to the Area of Impact
ITEM NO.
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AGENCY
COMMENTS
CITY CLERK:
CITY ENGINEER:
CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR:
CITY ATTORNEY
CITY POLICE OEPT:
CITY FIRE DEPT:
CITY BUILDING DEPT:
CITY WATER DEPT:
CITY SEWER DEPT:
MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT:
MERIDIAN POST OFFICE:
ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT:
SANtT ARY SERVICE COMPANY
CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION:
SETTLERS IRRIGATION:
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Re-negotiation of the Area of Impact Boundary
Boise City Council and Board of Ada County Commissioners
February 27, 2001
1.. 159..8 acres from Boise City Area of Impact to Eagle City Area of Impact.
.. Dry Creek Cemetery Property and the Bonita Hills Subdivision, which is serviced by the Eagle
Sewer District.. The request was made by Eagle City Mayor Y zzagui:re, and was discussed by
Public Works staff: PDS staff and Mayor Coles.
2. 12..23 acres of a larger 58 acre parcel. The owner, Winston Moore, desires to develop the
property all under Meridian City jwisdiction. He is therefore asking that the 12 acre parcel be
transferred from the Boise to the Meridian Area of City Impact. This is within Boise City limits,
so it would also have to be de-annexed.
3. 8.6 acres of the Muir Woods Su~vision, which would be transferred from the Meridian to the
Boise Area of City Impact. There is also a 5.3 acre parcel immediately to the SOU~ which is in
the Boise area of impact, and would be transfeITed to the Meridian area of impact.. These two
parcels. were developed in the respective areas of impact under the exception role in Chapter 15 of
the Zoning Ordinance, which allows properties which are split by the boundary line to be
developed under the jurisdiction in which the larger portion lies.
4. 2.7 acres in Medalist Subdivision. Similar to Muir Woods. It was developed in the Boise
Area oflmpact and with Boise sewer, but a suiall portion extended outside the Area of Impact.
The 3 acres would be transferred from the Meridian to the Boise Area of Impact.
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Wm. F. Nichols
CITY OF MERIDIAN
Subject:
Urban Renewal Area Resolution
Date:
March 9, 2001
Attached you will find the original of the Urban Renewal Area
Resolution, along with the attached map of the area. This matter will be discussed at
the March 13th Worl(shop, and then placed upon the City Council agenda for March
20, 200 I. Please make sure copies are distributed to the Mayor and Cou11cil
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RESOLUTION NO.
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN,
IDAHO, DETERMINING CERTAIN PROPERTY DESCRIBED BELOW TO BE
A DETERIORATED AREA OR A DETERIORATING AREA OR A
COMBINATION THEREOF AND DESIGNATING SUCH AREA AS
APPROPRIATE FORAN URBAN RENEWAL PROJECT.
BE IT RESOLVED BY THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO:
WHEREAS, the area described below contains land which has a predominance
of defective or inadequate street layout, faulty lot layout in relation to size, adequacy,
accessibility or usefulness, diversity of ownership, or a combination of such factors,
resulting in economic underdevelopment of the area which substantially impairs or
arrests the sound growth of the City of Meridian; and
WHEREAS, the area described below contains land which is predominantly
open and which has diversity of ownership, resulting in economic underdevelopment
of the area or substantially impairs or arrests the sound growth of the City of
Meridian.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE MAYOR AND CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO, AS FOLLOWS:
SECTION 1: That the area shown on the map, which is attached hereto
and incorporated herein by reference, is deterlnined to be a deteriorated area or a
deteriorating area, or a combination thereof.
SECTION 2: That the area described above is designated as appropriate
for an urban renewal project, and shall be IGlown as Urban Renewal Area # 1.
SECTION 3: That the Mayor and City Council hereby find it necessary
and advisable, in order to assure orderly economic development that the above
described area, and is in the public interest for management and sound growth, to
designate the above area to be known as Urban Renewal Area # I.
URBAN RENEWAL AREA RESOLUTION
PAGE I OF 2
PASSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO,
this day of , 2001.
APPROVED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO, this
day of ,2001.
By:
Mayor Robert D. Corrie
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City Clerk
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REQUEST Resolution - Meridian Urban Renewal Area No. 1
AGENCY COMMENTS
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CITY ENGINEER:
CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR:
CITY ATTORNEY
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MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT:
MERIDIAN POST OFFICE:
ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT:
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March 1, 2001
MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL MEETING
March 6, 2001
APPLICANT Planning and Zoning Dept. - Shari Stiles
REQUEST Proposed Changes to the Area of Impact
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Department Report
ITEM NO.
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AGENCY
COMMENTS
CITY CLERK:
CITY ENGINEER:
CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR:
CITY ATTORNEY
CITY POLICE DEPT:
CITY FIRE DEPT:
CITY BUILDING DEPT:
CITY WATER DEPT:
CITY SEWER DEPT:
MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT:
MERIDIAN POST OFFICE:
ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT:
SANITARY SERVICE COMPANY
CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION:
SETTLERS IRRIGATION:
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February 27, 2001
1. 159.8 acres from Boise City Area of Impact to Eagle City Area of Impact.
.. Dry Creek Cemetery Property and the Bonita Hills Subdivision, which is serviced by the Eagle
Sewer District. The request was made by Eagle City Mayor Y zzaguire, and was discussed by
Public Works staff, PDS staff and Mayor Coles.
2.. ]2~23 acres ofa larger 58 acre parcel. The owner, Winston Moore, desires to develop the
property all under Meridian City jurisdiction. He is therefore asking that the 12 acre parcel be
transferred from the Boise to the Meridian Area of City Impact. This is within Boise City limits,
so it would also have to be de-annexed.
3. 8.6 acres of the Muir Woods Sub4ivision, which would be transferred from the Meridian to the
Boise Area of City Impact. There is also a 5.3 acre parcel immediately to the sout~ which is in
the Boise area of impact, and would be transfelTed to the Meridian area of impact. These two
parcels. were developed in the respective areas of impact under the exception rule in Chapter 15 of
the Zoning Ordinance, which allows properties which are split by the boundary line to be
developed under the jurisdiction in which tbe larger portion lies.
4. 2.7 acres in Medalist Subdivision. Similar to Muir Woods. It was developed in the Boise
Area of Impact and with Boise sewer, but a srriall portion extended outside the Area of Impact.
The 3 acres would be transferred from the Meridian to the Boise Area of Impact.
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TELEPHONE (208) 323-1919/ FAX 323..7523
RECEIVED
MAR - 1 2001
March 1, 2001
CITY OF MERIDIAN
Mayor Robert Corrie
Members of Meridian City Council
City of Meridian
33 East Idaho Ave.
Meridian, Idaho
Re: Northwest Comer of Us tick and Eagle Road
Dear Mayor and Council Members:
As requested at the February 20th Meridian City Council hearing, I have enclosed the letter from Mayor
Brent Coles to the Board of Ada County Commissioners requesting to renegotiate the Boise City impact
area~
The Mayor, Boise City Council and Ada County Commissioners met on Tuesday, February 27th and agreed
that the area of impact could be renegotiated, that is the Impact Ordinance can be amended (please let me
know if you would like a copy of the minutes once they become available). As I understand it, if Meridian
agrees to the Will Serve Utility Letter and modifying the impact area, the next step will be the formal
approval process with Meridian, Boise and Ada County~ In other words, until we receive a decision from
Meridian no further action will be taken.
On a related Issue I have given Gary Smith the information we used to determine if the proposed Ustick
sewer can serve the land within the Boise impact area
Please feel free to call should you have any questions~
cc: Gary Smith, City of Meridian, w/encL
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February 21., 2001
Board of Ada County Coaunissioners
650 W. Main Street
Boise. Idaho 83702
Rc: Requ~'"t to Renegotiate the Boise City Area ofImpacr Boundary
Dear Commissioners:
W. H. Moore Company m:ently requested input from the Boise City Council on a proposal to remove
approximately 12 acres ofaSB-acre parcel from tht Boise City Area of Impact and the incorporated area of tile
City. The subject property is located on the northwest comer of Eagle and Ustick Roads. Approximately 12
acres in the northeast comer of the property are within the Boise Area of Impact and corpor.tc limits, while the
balance is within the Meridian Area of Impact. The owner plans to develop a business park and prefers thal aU
of the property be within one city jurisdiction.
The Council reviewed th~ request on February 13,2001 and concluded that it was a fair and reasonable request
and it would be appropriate to submit the request to Ada County. The owner has been advised that the governing
boards of Ada County and Boise City must hold a negotiation meeting and if a~ent is reached, the actual
boundary change must go through the hearing process by each jurisdiction.
In accordance with the Ada County-Boise City Area of Impact Agreement and Idaho Code Section 67-6526(d),
Boise City hereby mIuest a meeting to renegotiate th~ Boise City Area of Impact boundary as requested by the
W. H. Moore Company. In accordance with the renegotiation proce5Sy a meeting shall occur within 30 days of
receipt of this request..
To facilitate a timely renegotiation meeting, this issue can be placed on the City Council noon meeting agenda
for F ebrwuy 21) 200 1, if that time and date is convenient for the ~sioners.
If the Commissioner's schedule does not allow a meeting at that time,. please le[ me know a date and time that
will work for you.'
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JeffPatlovich, Director, Ada COWlty Development Services
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MEMORANDUM
William G. Berg, Jr.
RECElVEP
MAR - 9 2001
To:
CITY OF ~IERIDIAN
From:
Subject:
Resolution To Raise Tax Levy Rate FY 2001-2002
Date:
March 9, 2001
Please find attached the original of the Resolution pertaining to the tax
levy rate for 2001-2002. This matter will now need to be placed upon an up coming
City Council meeting.
If you have any questions please give me a call.
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RESOLUTION NO.
A RESOLUTION PROCLAIMING A SPECIAL CITY ELECTION TO BE HELD ON
MAY 20, 2001, DESIGNATING THE POLLING PLACE AND ESTABLISHING ONE
CITY-WIDE ELECTION PRECINCT; DESIGNATING THE REGISTRAR AND
DEPUTY REGISTRARS, AND ORDERING THE CITY CLERK TO GIVE NOTICE OF
SUCH ELECTION.
BE IT RESOL YED BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
MERIDIAN, THAT:
SECTION 1: A special city election will be held in and for the City of Meridian, Idaho
on the 20th day of May, 2001, for the purpose of considering the following proposition:
Shall the City be allowed to increase its budget for the 2001/2002
budget year, by an amount not to exceed the difference between
.004 and the amount of the levy for the 2000/2001 budget year,
multiplied by the market value of assessable property in such year?
SECTION 2: The election precinct or precincts shall be as designated by Ada County,
pursuant to the provisions of Title 34, Idaho Code and the polling place for such election shall be
the Meridian City Hall, 33 East Idaho, Meridian, Idaho.
SECTION 3: The County Clerk shall be the registrar for such special election and shall
conduct voter registration in accordance with the provisions of Idaho Code Section 34-1402.
SECTION 4: The City Clerk shall give public notice of the time and place of holding
such special city election by posting such notice in tlrree public places or publishing such notice
in at least two issues of the Idaho Statesman, the official newspaper of the City of Meridian,
Idaho, and two issues of the Valley Times distributed out of Eagle, Idaho, the first publication of
such notice to be made not less than 12 days previous to the date of such city election and the last
publication not less than 5 days prior to the election. The notice so published shall state the
polling place in each precinct and the hours during which the polls shall be open for the purpose
of voting and shall contain such information as is required under Section 50-436 of the Idaho
Code.
Resolution To Raise Tax Levy Rate FY 2001-2002 Page 1 of2
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PASSED BY THE COUNCIL AND APPROVED BY THE MAYOR this day
of March, 2001.
Robert D. Corrie, Mayor
ATTEST:
William G. Berg, Jr., City Clerk
Resolution To Raise Tax Levy Rate FY 2001-2002 Page 2 of2
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CITY OF MERIDIAN
CITY COUNCIL STRA TEGIC PLANNING SESSION / WORKSHOP
AGENDA ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION
Tuesday, March 13, 2001, at 6:30 P.M.
City Council Chambers
x Tammy deWeerd x Cherie McCandless
x Ron Anderson x Keith Bird
x Mayor Robert Corrie
Discussion of Appraisal of Ten Mile Fire Station Land: Resolution
for the 3-27-01 Meeting
Discussion of Surplus Fire Department Vehicles: Agreement /
Contract for the 3-27-01 Meeting
Discussion of Urban Renewal Area Resolution: Presentation on
next workshop on 4-10-01 by Committee
Discussion of Genera/Insurance Liability Concerns: Presentation
from Jim Johnson
Discussion of Area of Impact Proposed Changes: Prepare Letter
to Ada County for 3-20-01 Meeting
Discussion of Ada County Subdivision Applications: Process /
Procedure to Address Application
Discussion of Update of Water and Sewer Fees: Presentation for
next workshop on 4-10-01 by Public Works
Discussion of Future Topics: for 4-10-01 Workshop
- presentation by Urban Renewal Committee
fee proposals for applications by P & Z Department
water and sewer fees update
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Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and/or hearings, please contact the City Clerk's
Office at 888-4433 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting.
Roll Call:
Issue #1
Issue #2
Issue #3
Issue #4
Issue #5
Issue #6
Issue #7
Issue #8
CITY OF MERIDIAN
CITY COUNCIL STRA TEGle PLANNING SESSION / WORKSHOP
AGENDA ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION
Tuesday, March 13, 2001, at 6:30 P.M.
City Council Chambers
)( Tammy deWeerd X Cherie McCandless
~ Ron Anderson X Keith Bird
o Mayor Robert Corrie
Discussion of Appraisal of Ten Mile Fire Station Land
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Discussion of Surplus Fire Department Vehicles
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Discussion of Urban Renewal Area Resolution
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Discussion of Genera/Insurance Liability Concerns
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Discussion of Area of Impact Proposed Changes 'J
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Discussion of Ada County Subdivision Applications ..
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Discussion of Update of Water and Sewer Fees
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Meridian r ,(8 Department
540 E. Franklin Road
Meridian, 10 83642
208-888-1234
Fax 208-895-0390
Memo
To:
From:
Date:
Mayor Robert Corrie, City Council Members
Chief Ken W. Bowers
March 9, 2001
Appraisal of Fire Station Land
Re:
Meridian Rural Fire Protection District wanted an appraisal of the land at 2401 N. Ten
Mile Road the location of the new Fire Station. I contacted Darrel Matthews of
Mountain States Appraisal to do the appraisal.
This land was donated to the City of Meridian years ago. We appeared before
Planning & Zoning and the City Council to have the zoning changed to LO and had
the lot surveyed. We had water, sewer, and the appropriate valves constructed from
Ten Mile Road. Our cost to have aU this work done was $9,698.50 and the Meridian
Rural Fire Protection District paid their portion.
The appraisal was done at the current market value for land with water and sewer
already in. The estimated appraised value is $98,000.00.
$98,000.00 Estimated Appraisal
- 9,698.50 Less Work Already Paid For
88t301.50
Meridian Rural Fire Protection District would pay their appropriate percentage of
$ 88,301.50.
If you have any questions, please contact me.
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Ken W. Bowerst Chief
Meridian Fire Department
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CITY OF MERIDIAN
CITY COUNCIL STRA TEGIC PLANNING SESSION / WORKSHOP
AGENDA ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION
Tuesday, March 13, 2001, at 6:30 P.M.
City Council Chambers
x Tammy deWeerd x Cherie McCandless
x Ron Anderson x Keith Bird
o Mayor Robert Corrie
Discussion of Appraisal of Ten Mile Fire Station Land: Resolution
for the 3-27-01 Meeting
Discussion of Surplus Fire Department Vehicles: Agreement /
Contract for the 3-27-01 Meeting
Discussion of Urban Renewal Area Resolution: Presentation on
next workshop on 4-10-01 by Committee
Discussion of General Insurance Liability Concerns: Presentation
from Jim Johnson
Discussion of Area of Impact Proposed Changesw. Prepare Letter
to Ada County for 3-20-01 Meeting
Discussion of Ada County Subdivision Applications: Process /
Procedure to Address Application
Discussion of Update of Water and Sewer Feesw. Presentation for
next workshop on 4-10-01 by Public Works
Discussion of Future Topics: for 4-10-01 Workshop
- presentation by Urban Renewal Committee
fee proposals for applications by P & Z Department
water and sewer fees update
Meridian City Council Workshop Agenda - March 13, 2001
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Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and/or hearings, please contact the City ClerICs
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Meridian City Council Workshop
March 13. 2001
The Tuesday March 13, 2001 Meridian City Council Workshop was called to
order at 6:32 p.m. by President Keith Bird.
Members Present: Keith Bird, Cherie McCandless, Ron Anderson, Tammy De
Weerd
Members Absent: Robert Corrie
Others Present: Gary Smith, Bill Nichols, Shari Stiles, Bill Gordon, Ken Bowers,
Will Berg, Jim Johnson, Steve Bravo, Mike Ingram.
Issue #1
Discussion of Appraisal of Ten Mile Fire Station Land:
Bird: Mr. Kenneth Bowers, Chief of the Fire Department.
Bowers: The Mayor's set is over there?
Bird: We do not care, sit right there.
Bowers: Good evening President Bird and City Council members. Tonight out in
the audience we have the Rural Commissioner, Steve Bravo, who will set in and
listen.
De Weerd: Steve do you want to join us?
Bowers: Do you want to come up and join us or stay? The Rural
Commissioners had approached myself and Ron Anderson in one of our
meetings in talking about what they could get with the property out at Ten Mile.
They did not feel very comfortable about owning a percent of the building and not
owning a percent of the ground. They wanted kind of a whole package out there
so I had contacted Mountain State Appraisal to come out and give us an
appraisal on the property at Ten Mile. Mr. Darrel Matthews came out and gave
us an appraisal on it. Many years ago that property was donated to the City of
Meridian for a Fire Station lot by Mr. Teeter. We appear before the Planning and
Zoning and City Council to have zoning changed to L-Q and had the lots
surveyed. We have water and sewer and the appropriate bowels constructed on
the property from Ten Mile Road before they come in and overlay Ten Mile Road,
because once they overlaid it then we would have to wait 5 years before we
could hook in. Our cost to have all of this work done was $9,698.50, and the
Meridian Rural Fire Protection District paid their portion of that. The appraisal
was done at the current market value for land with water and sewer to the lot.
The estimated appraisal value is $98,000. The Meridian Rural Fire Protection
District would like to pay their appropriate percentage of the property.
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Bird: That is what the $9,698.50, that has already been paid for so the total
appraisal their percent would be -
Bowers: Would be $88,301.50.
Bird: And what is their percent right now?
Bowers: They are 26 percent at this time.
Bird: $19,000-$20,000.
De Weerd: Mr. President?
Bird: Yes, Tammy.
De Weerd: Weill was acknowledging the president that just came.
Bowers: And I did not know if the Rural had approached you guys on any
different type of percentage, 30-70, 50-50, so I did not put a percent down on
this.
Bird: Councilman Anderson.
Anderson: I had had a conversation with Steve and after we got your memo
there was the only fallacy. I see with that if you say that they paid their
proportion of the $9,698, and so that was 30 percent?
Bowers: Thirty percent.
Anderson: And so we should not deduct that full amount from the $98,000 that
they only pay 30 percent of that.
Bravo: We do not even want to bother, just take the 1 0 off. We will just take
what we have already paid both ends off of the appraisal value and just pay our
percentage and call it the 26 percent.
Anderson: So you are saying take the $9600 off of the $98,000, or what?
Bravo: Yes, which came out with the original numbers that Kenny had here the
$88,301.50 would what -- we would pay our 26 percent of and just call it 26
percent all of the way through and not worry about that 4 percent on the
improvements, that is pocket change.
Bird: So is our agreement going to stay this year at the 74-26?
Anderson: Well, that will be re-evaluated for the next budget year.
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Bird: Okay.
Anderson: But we do not know what those numbers are yet, we need the
planning and the demographics.
Bravo: It was our just opinion it would be simpler if we just make each project a
certain percentage all the way through, so that 10-20 years from now, it is real
easy to know that (inaudible) percentage, unless you guys have any other ideas.
Bird: Mr. Nichols.
Nichols: The one you are talking about is just like a sum-sorted formula. If you
take the $9,698.50 off and then do the 26 percent on the $88,301.50 and call it a
26 percent ownership between the land and the improvements that reasonable
one with the circumstances fixes that interest and that land and improvement so
that if anything is ever done with it later on at any time. You decide to sever you
Joint Powers Agreement and buy that interest from them and have the thing
reappraised and buy the 26 percent.
Bird: Do we have to do that in a form of resolution or just a contract?
Nichols: That is a good question. I think it is a contract. We would just probably
reflect it as an indendum on the existing Joint Powers Agreement or somehow
reflects what the Rurals are paying and they are getting in return.
(I naud ible Discussion)
Bird: Would you do that Bill?
Nichols: You bet.
Bird: Then let the Mayor know and we get it on the deal.
Bravo: And we write that personal check to you, right Kenny?
Bowers: Yes.
Bird: We have that. Item NO.2 is the - oh, Mike?
Ingram: One quick thing that I want to interject while we are talking about the
Fire Station is, have you had a chance Keith to talk to Doc Johnson on -
Bird: I have not had a chance to talk to Dr. Johnson.
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Ingram: Would it be possible to at least make contact with him before our
meeting next Wednesday.
Bird: Yes, I will try and get a hold of him. He is back in time.
Ingram: Okay, thank you sir.
Issue #2
Discussion of Surplus Fire Oeparlment Vehicles:
Bird: Mr. Bowers.
Bowers: Okay, thank you. Councilman Anderson and I and the Rural
Commissioners sat down one night and kind of mapped out what we are going to
need for the future for trucks. At that time we decided we that we have too many
vehicles at this time so we need to start surplusing some of our older equipment,
old vans, stuff that we do not use weekly or monthly. At this time we have a
1973 Ford American (inaudible) truck that the City bought in 1972 or 1973
around in that area. This is a City owned truck, this is not a 50-50, and the City
owns it all. I had talked to Mr. Nichols about if there is anyway that we could gift
or exchange a piece of fire equipment to another Fire Department, and he has
checked through and went through a lot of the state laws and basically said that
is not a problem doing this. The Lowman Fire Department is just starting out;
they are starting to start a department with trucks, wild land trucks. They do not
have anything. They are starting from scratch, and they are the first ones --
basically about 8 months ago had come and talked to us about if we had ever
any trucks available to put them on our list. They were the first ones on our list. I
got a hold of them yesterday; they are still interested in a truck, so we had the
truck appraised. The appraisal came in at $8,000 for the truck. Basically the first
thing the letter says is these trucks are not very popular. Caldwell Fire had one
similar to it and it took them several months to get rid of theirs, and I do not even
know if they sold it or gave it away. I did not ever hear. Like I said in that last
sentence right there, I would think that if the City would be able to gift this truck to
Lowman. We have a lot of people that travel up to Lowman and live up in that
area. Possibly that truck would be servicing them up there at Lowman also. I
thought I would just bring it to you and get any ideas you guys have on it.
Bird: Tammy what are your thoughts on it?
De Weerd: I think we need to help out a fellow community.
Bird: Okay, Cherie?
McCandless: The first thing when I read this, the first thing that came to mind is
if they had had that they would not have lost that lodge up there.
Bird: Mr. Anderson?
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Anderson: I think it would be a good move. I know most of the surrounding
departments that are real close that could benefit Meridian as far as mutual aide
already have equipment that is far superior to this type of apparatus, so we
looked at a donation or a gift or trying to sell it to somebody around here. Like I
said nobody around here would even be interested in the truck due to the age
and the condition of it. I think it would be a real benefit for the Lowman
Community. They do not have a Taxing District even formed at this point, they
are just trying to solicit funds and get donations to get their district up off and
running. I know at Nampa we are putting together a bunch of old equipment,
bunker gear and hose, and nozzles and stuff that we would like to throw in in
conjunction with this apparatus and kind of equip it a little bit for them too. I think
it would be a good deal. I think we would get far more PR value and good will
between the communities for the miniscule amount of money that we get for it. I
think it would be a good deal.
Bird: Mr. Nichols, what kind of an appeal do we have to draw up or how do we -
Nichols: As long as it is - I believe the statute that Kenny referred to into this
memo, it refers to a donation to any other taxing entity, so does the City of
Lowman. Is the City of Lowman incorporated is this a Fire Protection District?
Do they have a, they do not have any taxes or -
Anderson: Not at this time, but they said that they are affiliated with Boise
County, so it could be a gift to Boise County and then Boise County could then in
turn put it on a loan basis or whatever to this Fire District, and they would talk to
their Commissioners up there.
Nichols: I would say if the donation is in Boise County with the stipulation that it
be used for Lowman then I think you are okay.
Bird: Could you draw up the papers and it get them for the next Council
meeting?
Nichols: I have not thought about what we would do, I suppose we could
probably do a resolution, probably.
Bird: Is that agreeable with all of the Council? (Inaudible)
Nichols: Okay, Kenny I need the serial number and stuff for the truck.
Bird: Thank you Kenneth.
Bowers: Mr. Bird, City Council, we are not going to get any points from surveying
Meridian Bureau Ford anymore. Thank you, I appreciate it.
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Issue #3
Discussion of Urban Renewal Area Resolution:
Bird: Discussion?
De Weerd: It looks like there is discussion.
Bird: Okay, Jim come on up and sit down. This is Jim Johnson Chairman of the
Meridian Development Committee.
Johnson: The acronym is MDC. The Mayor asked me to address this, and I am
not too sure what he had in mind other than he kind of conveyed there might be
some confusion. So I thought what I would do is just give you a brief recap and
this is kind of a repeat of what I said before. Bill and I have spent some time on
the Urban Renewal law, state statute. Every incorporate committee in the State
of Idaho has an Urban Renewal Development. Some have put it into (inaudible)
some do not. Currently there is a lot of Urban Renewal going on in the State of
Idaho. I thought I would start with just some basic definitions, and these all come
right out of the state statue 50-2001 to 50-2031. First is Urban Renewal area of
operation. Area of operation meaning (inaudible). By statutes that is defined as
in corporate City limits and area of 5 miles beyond the City limits as long as it
does not overlap some other incorporated territory. Meridian comes up to Boise
so the 5-mile limit would not apply, but it might in some areas. Then the next
definition I want to talk about is Urban Renewal Area and that is basically
boundaries that are set by the Council within which the Renewal has to happen.
This could mean you could do that whole area, but whatever we do has to fall
within those boundaries. Then the next definition I want to talk about is the
Urban Renewal Project itself. This is a specific plan, which is within the Urban
Renewal area; it may only be a small portion. It is all addressed by the act and
(inaudible) as you go through each step to determining these boundaries if City
Council approves to do that. Then the funding mechanism most commonly used
in the State of Idaho and currently being used by over 20 cities in Idaho is Tax
Increment Financing. That falls under the Local Economic Development Act,
which is again a state statute 50-2901 to 50-2912. In there the key definition is a
revenue allocation area, and a revenue allocation area is the area designated
again approved by the City Council, which the taxes are collected to pay for any
developments. There are some limitations on that the area cannot be larger than
100/0 of the assessed value of the Urban Renewal area (inaudible). It is not 10
percent geographic area it is 1 0 percent of the revenue that is collected on the
taxes, property taxes. It has a life span of 24 years maximum, and as I get into
the bond issue you will see where that comes into play. This is how the tax
increment financing works if I could just briefly go over that. It is all done in
conjunction with the County Assessor, approval by the City, you designate your
tax revenue allocation area, taxes are frozen in other words the base. The total
taxes collected at a certain time, which you determine, is frozen at that point. So
let us say theoretically you get $100,000 worth taxes, it is going to be a lot more
than that but let us just us that, in this certain area this revenue allocation area.
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Those taxes continue to flow to this taxing (inaudible). Any new growth that, an ..
increase in taxes go directly to the Urban Renewal vacancy to improve the area.
Of course it has been qualified already as a deteriorating or deteriorated area in
order to get this money. Now the way this operates is throughout the State of
Idaho this is taking place now, Twin Falls, Pocatello, I have copies of their forms.
The bonding company goes out and sells to investors, they are called tax
increment financing bonds and they have maturities like 11 years, 1(2 years, or 20
years the maximum 30 years on the one, and the money comes in if we sell the
bonds. The money is up front for use by the Urban Renewal agency. To
purchase the land or develop land that needs rehabilitation or even to spur the
growth, start the growth itself, and then the increment tax is collected and in turn
go back to pay the bonds off. Now, in order for that to be an acceptable way of
funding your area for your revenue allocation has to be large enough so that you
can collect enough increment taxes in order to do something. If it is a small area,
it will sit there a long time; you will never get enough increment taxes in order to
make an impact. That is why the people that are bid through this process say
two things should occur. One is that area has to include by law an area that
needs rehabilitation, but the key is the area also has to include an area that
currently developing on its own because if you do not do that you will never have
enough money to pay the bonds back. The bonds are not a slam dunk, the
bonding company is not going to be able to sell them or even try to sell them
unless they are pretty sure that they are going to be able to pay the bonds off.
You are kind of between a rock and hard place if you get to small of an area. I
am trying to lay the pattern here, because what I am going to recommend to you
is (inaudible). I n my opinion in order to this be successful, I really think the area
that you define in a resolution is too small to accomplish what we need to do if
the route you take for money is active increment plans. There are other routes to
take, there are other moneys available, but usually those are one shot. I mean
you could write up a - we could go outside and hire an expert and have them
develop a presentation for a grant or whatever moneys are available. We might
- because it is very competitive out there, there are not too many of these
programs available that are used to both state and federal to drastically reduce
the amount of money that is available through there. You might get lucky, and
you might get a half of a million dollars or even one million dollars, but that is not
going to be enough money to have an impact. If you get it, you are going to get it
once. You are not going to be able to go back next year and get it again
because it is so competitive, if it was your attorney that got it this year (inaudible).
What I am suggesting to you and it is only a suggestion. That you table the
resolution and let the Committee put on an informal presentation about why we
think we need a larger area that would take a minimum of an hour of your time to
do it right, and then have you reconsider that and do whatever resolution you
want from that point on, but these resolutions can be amended, there are
provisions for that in a statute, but in my opinion we have been at this since last
June. We have the time to put it off and make our case a little better and a little
more professional than I am able to do at this point. I will add one other thing
and then I will shut up. This is again my personal opinion, I think the key to the
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downtown development of Meridian is a commitment from a part of all of you, the
City Council in particular that this is what you want to do and that has to include
the relocation of City Hall in downtown area. I cannot see - let me replace that, if
that happens, if the City Hall relocates to the downtown area, the growth will be
spurred much more quickly than it will be at this time. If may not be spurred at all
if the location is (inaudible), so there again this is my personal opinion, but I think
you ought to put yourselves in a position to look at all of the opportunities that are
available right now for the downtown location for the City Hall Complex. That
really is a feeling of our Committee as well. We have discussed this at some
length, so I think I am safely speaking for them as well as myself. So with that
point I will answer any questions you might have regarding that.
Bird: Ron.
Anderson: Gentlemen, I am trying to understand, maybe you can help me
understand a little bit better. You talked about that the taxes get frozen at the
level whatever time we set in there, and that becomes the revenue allocation
area?
Johnson: Yes.
Anderson: Then you said all the taxing get their money from what they are
currently getting, and then it is the new growth that is going to occur that is going
to generate the moneys for the Urban Renewal District and that they go out and
sell bonds. How do they figure out or is that just kind of a guess about how much
new growth is going to occur and how much bonds they can go out and sell
there?
Johnson: In order to sell the bonds, we have to provide the bonding company
and the City Council and everyone else with a very detailed plan about we plan
to do and where we plan to do it at. Because without that plan we do not have a
pray. It has to be very specific with blocks or areas designated that you want to
improve and how you want to improve them. There are a couple of exceptions to
that freeze, by the way. The School Districts are exempted from that. ACHD
was never perceptive to tax increment financing (inaudible). The reason the
Cities and some of the other tax amenities no longer fight it like they use to is
because of the 3 percent cap. A 3 percent cap applies to the budget not the
taxes. In an area that is growing as fast like Meridian, you have the flexibility of
either the percentage (inaudible) or the 3 percent cap, so if you have a 6 percent
growth in Meridian, that is about what we have 5 or 6 percent, the golden ponded
cap, which only makes sense with the growth (inaudible) efficient services, you
need that. There are exemptions for some of the tax amenities (inaudible), so
they would continue to get the new growth as well. Their portion would be
(inaudible ).
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Anderson: And then you indicated that these Urban Renewal Districts are tax
increment financing could be collected for 24 years. Do you guys have a
projection on how long you are looking at setting up this Urban Renewal District?
Johnson: We are nowhere near that point. In order to get to that point first we
have to go get the designated plan and talk to the money people. We already
have some people coming in from Wells Fargo who have done this sort of thing
before in Pocatello and Twin Falls. We do have to present a very detailed plan to
them before they can begin to go out and sell a bond, but I can tell with the
length of the bonds in this City, they vary from a carry of 11 years up to 20 years
depending on the amounts. Some of those bonds are as small as $545,000 and
some are as large as $8,250,000, so they vary in size. The other thing is they do
different districts and different bonds, so you could have more than one district
being bonded at the same time. Boise has kind of done theirs in stages and
districts as well. Each time you go into a new district and you have to come back
to the City with a new plan for approval (inaudible) the bonding company so it is a
whole new project. (Inaudible) If this whole Urban Renewal thing as I get into it-
let me tell you something, I am a modern European History thinker, I am way out
in my field here, so I have just been reading about this more or less. I am not an
expert on it, but the more I read about it, it takes a lot of foresight. You have to
look down the road a long time; you have to look down the road 10, 15, 20 years
to try and visualize what we want Meridian to be. If this is not the mechanism
you want to use to get there then I (inaudible). We have a special axe to grind
(inaudible) we are appointed by you to be here.
Anderson: I would hope that you are not grinding an axe.
Johnson: I have my own pet peeves too, everybody does.
Bird: Does anyone have any questions for Mr. Johnson?
De Weerd: I never knew you had an opinion. I think it is very reasonable to have
the Committee come in and present the boundaries and the rational behind that,
and I would look forward to that presentation. I know you have put a lot of effort
into this, and I do not see any urgency to set this tonight.
Johnson: We have a meeting scheduled for tomorrow morning, and if you agree
that that is the route you want to take then I would take that to the Committee in
the morning and get a Committee to give a presentation at your convenience.
Probably as soon as possible.
Bird: It will be the second Tuesday in April before we can do it at a workshop.
Johnson: That will probably work.
De Weerd: You do not the fourth week? Is that already full?
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Bird: The fourth week is a regular Council meeting it is not a workshop. We
need to discuss this at a workshop. We can give them an hour for a
presentation. I would be in favor of bringing it back at the next workshop, the
second Tuesday of April, giving them one hour.
Johnson: That would probably give us the time we need to get prepared for that.
I am sure we want to bring in some overheads.
De Weerd: Mr. President?
Bird: Yes, Tammy.
De Weerd: I believe that there were some questions raised also about the lease
option. Have you talked to Jim about what your questions were or the City
Attorney?
Bird: No, Mr. Nichols is going to -
Nichols: We are still working on it.
Bird: They are still working on that. I am not for that lease option unless I am
100 percent sure that it cannot be sold out from underneath us or something like
that. I think the key word there is permanent.
Anderson: What does that mean?
Bird: We both have the same question. I have a real question on that, but
anyway if it is agreeable with the Council we will put this on the agenda item for
the workshop the second Tuesday of April and designate one hour.
(Inaudible Discussion.)
Bird: What is the date of the second Tuesday?
Anderson: The 10th. I just feel like for me, myself, I just want to know more of
the ins and outs and the intricacies of establishing one of these so that I can
hopefully make a more informed decision about whether we are doing the right
thing or what.
Johnson: I read the minutes from your meeting for the resolution and I could tell
from that that there was some confusion about (inaudible) we have changed our
boundary to a radius and some were concerned it might cut a lot, that is not the
plan that is the area. That would never happen of course. If you have a plan
come to you that cuts a lot of hands, I was just giving that as a larger area -
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McCandless: I am curious about that. When we talked about boundaries we
were talking about from Cherry Lane and Fairview to Franklin and fourth to
fourth. Why would you think that was too small? I do not disagree with you, I am
just wondering.
Johnson: No, it is not even my considered opinion. It is the opinion of the people
that have been through this process that there is not enough within that area to
run (inaudible). That is the key to some of this development. Most of that area is
by residential or small business and office that sort of thing. The guy minds that
we are trying to follow is to try to get as much as you can for obvious reasons,
and that is why there are trade offs, there are going to be sacrifices for awhile.
Sacrifices that are somewhat diminished by changes in the law within the Taxing
District. There is a whole behind this as to what happens because once they
frozen in that area, and taxes might slightly increase in areas where it is not
frozen. If you are increasing your Mill Levy, which I hope you do because I think
it is sorely needed.
Anderson: And my concerns, I mean I understand why you would want to have a
large area and you want some area that is undeveloped right now so that it will
generate more revenue as we have been talking a lot here lately, we feel like the
residential growth that occurs does not provide the funding quick enough for us
to keep up with the City services. So we have really been trying to make an
effort clear back as far as when you were on the Planning and Zoning to get
more commercial growth, and we are just starting to reap the benefits of that. I
do not want to take a big chunk of that and dedicate it all to the Urban Renewal
so we do not have a catch up on those City services.
Johnson: There is always going to be separate schools of thought. I think there
are people that are better equipped to answer that. (Inaudible) I know there are
trade-offs.
De Weerd: There are trade-offs because it does draw other industry.
Johnson: But you have to be dually farsighted and see the benefits way down
the road for the sacrifices you made now. (Inaudible)
De Weerd: And a lot of that too because of the 3 percent cap you are not going
to realize it anyway. So this way it goes in and it still is benefiting the
development of the community.
Anderson: Because any new growth you get above and beyond the 3 percent
cap.
De Weerd: Not the following year.
Anderson: Yes you do.
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Bird: Yes you do.
Anderson: Your new growth always counts.
Bird: Okay, Council with your approval we will put this on the April 10, 2001 first
agenda and give it an hour. Okay, we cannot table it.
Issue #4
Discussion of Genera/Insurance Liability Concerns:
Bird: Mr. Johnson do not leave your seat seeing how you are our Insurance
representative. I asked Mr. Johnson to come tonight. I have some real concerns
on our Parks and Recreation program.
De Weerd: Keith, do you want to introduce Boy Scout troop and kind of explain
what a workshop is and why we are so informal?
Bird: Which troop is that, Troop 149? This is not a regular Council meeting; this
is a workshop where we discuss resolutions and all the stuff. We cannot make
any decisions. It is very informal. We have no public input unless they ask, so
that is basically what we are doing here tonight. We appreciate you guys
coming. Do you have any questions for us?
Unidentified: No, not at this moment.
Bird: In about 15, 16 years you will be sitting here. I have some real concerns
on our Recreation program, where we are hiring - and I do not know nobody
seems to have contracts or everybody I have asked, we are taking the money in
and then we are having outside people give the classes. Are we getting
certificate of liability from them because they are a subcontractor? I do not know
so I asked Mr. Johnson to come from ICRMP, representative of ICRMP, and
explain some of this to us. I think we might be sticking our necks out a lot farther
than we would like.
Johnson: Just a couple of basic things and then I will get to Bill Nichols waiver.
We have a contractor with the provider, which is ICRMP. It says you will tell us
everything you do and that is how we arrive at pricing for the insurance. That is
just basic insurance. It is my responsibility to keep ICRMP informed of
everything that is going on in the City. In that regard, one of the things that
brought this to life - we do not have time for a refresher course here. I am
keeping everybody advised on what is going on in the City. I was reading
through the Meridian Parks and Recreation spring/summer 2001 brochure, which
is a really nice brochure. It talked about all of the programs offered and there are
a tremendous number of programs in there. Some of which caught my eye,
things like kickboxing, trampoline gymnastics, and what in an insurance business
is considered real high hazardous stuff because kids get hurt and (inaudible) get
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sued. So in that regard I sent a copy of the brochure to ICRMP and said hey,
these things are going on. Some of them are on owned premise, most of them
are on non-owned premise, tell me what I need to find out so that these people
can be informed about what is going on over here. So the feed back kind of
comes back tell me what kind of contracts they have and what are position is in
these programs, are we just collecting money or are we actually out there
providing instructors, what are we doing? So we need to know all of this stuff in
order to make sure that our rates are adequate. So in that regard there are two
things that readily come to mind: No 1, if we are representing ourselves as
providing the programs, say kickboxing, but we really do not have any role as a
City in conducting the kick boxing class, all we are doing is signing people up and
taking money. Where is our liability? Mr. Nichols will tell you that that is hard to
determine until you go to court. The way you protect yourself on a standard
basis is you get certificates of liability from the people who are providing the
service for the program. Showing that they have insurance and they need either
the City of Meridian as a additional insurer or hqlding us harmless and identifying
the City of Meridian as to any liability. That is kind of a standard procedure in the
insurance business, and then the second thing is to encourage or make
mandatory signing a waiver on participants and I will tell you how this came
about. We have a program going on now in the City of Meridian, I think it is still
going on, is youth basketball. A couple of kids got hurt playing basketball,
sprained their ankles or whatever the standard injury, and they showed up on an
instant claim report which went th~ough the Risk Manager which is Will Berg, City
of Meridian. There is no way on God's green earth that the insurance company
would contemplate paying for participant's injury. Every policy in the world
excludes participants unless you go to (Lloyds Leonard) and buy participants
coverage. Again, the necessity of having a waiver for people to sign saying
basically you are on your own when you sign up for the program you waive
coverage against the City of Meridian. Anyway I have a copy of the letter here
from Bill Nichols, Larry Moore actually, from the same firm, saying we have a
waiver and we think it is sufficient in order to satisfy our needs and I forwarded
that on to ICRMP. So this is really a little speech on a refresher to let us know
and to let Will Berg know, he is the designated risk manager for the City of
Meridian he has been to all of the classes he has gone to a multitude of seminars
on claims reporting, general liability and how it extends to the City. There are
some special things in the law about facts supporting cities. We cannot be sued
as readily as a private sector can because of special exemptions. So that is my
basic point on that. On those programs in particular. I do not know if any other
departments do anything like this. Certainly, we need certificates of insurance
and waivers on everybody that participates, and I am hoping (inaudible), we
should have in place at all times.
Nichols: We have told the Parks and Recreation Department that there needs to
be some sort of waiver on each person, and I guess the question on some of the
Parks and Recreations classes though again, we have a fire fighter who
volunteered time to teach a CPR class through the Parks and Recreation
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Department. That fire fighter does not have a business and has not been paid
any money for it. That is really not the kind of activity that you are looking for a
certificate of insurance.
Johnson: No, it is just something we ought to be advised of that is occurring and
those circumstances can be explained. This participant is just a fellow
volunteering his time providing CPR classes, down the road his product does not
perform and somebody dies and we get sued (inaudible).
Nichols: Well, there is the Good Samaritan Act.
Johnson: Yes, I know there is a Good Samaritan Act, but those - anyway, I am
just gun shy about things going on that we do not know about.
Nichols: There is one thing that arose just last week, City of Boise and their
literature on - are they an ICRMP insured?
Johnson: No, they are self-insured.
Nichols: And their Parks and Recreation brochure says, our policy is that you
cannot participate unless you waive us release us from liability, and we are
hereby advising you that that is our policy and that if you participate you have
accepted this, it is a required acceptance of our release of liability, it is in the
documents. I do not -
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Nichols: These waivers, I am not so sure how much they have helped them.
They really do not keep you from getting sued in most cases. It is just one thing
that we can use as an additional defense. If somebody is intent on suing
because you are grossly negligent, something like that.
Johnson: It is kind of like buying a ticket when you go in a theatre and on the
back of it is a release of liability if there is a fire in the theatre, it does not mean
they will not get sued. Anyway, that is the point I wanted to make on that, and
then if I could just touch on two or three other things and then I will be through.
Anderson: Before we go on I have question. Would it be feasible to have - if
you are contracting with somebody else to provide the service, if it a trampoline
class or if it is basket weaving 101 and it is off premise, is it reasonable to ask
them to provide an insurance coverage for the participants that are going to
come in those activities? These are kind of deep pocket theories. If somebody
trips walking up the steps to go into somebody's house who is taking a class on
aroma therapy and those people do not have any money then naturally they are
going to come back and sue the City, especially if they could not claims taken
care of. I know you can buy insurance for participants. I was the Secretary of
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Treasure at the Idaho State Fire School for 12 years, and every year we bought
an accident policy that would cover those participants up to x amount of money if
they were injured during that event.
Johnson: Those are strictly accident exceptions. You can get into areas of
liability that are much higher. Your accident policy that you provided was
$50,000, $25,000.
Anderson: But that is what most people want -
Johnson: But that does not give you any coverage for loses of consortium or
pain and suffering.
Anderson: I was dumb-founded even when I contacted you even with the March
for Parks thing, and found out as volunteer and getting blown off of a barbecue
and getting lit on fire, well gee thanks for volunteering, but you are not covered
by anything. Pay your own medical claims too.
Johnson: That is why all of the little league programs in the valley soccer,
baseball, and whatever all have an accident policy. They are required to do all.
It is set limit and it helps.
Anderson: So is it reasonable to ask for something like that?
Bird: We should.
Johnson: I do not know if it is a reasonable one or not. It would probably
economically discourage people for doing things. So you would have to weigh
that as how important basket weaving 101 (inaudible). Just a couple of other
items we are trying to update our driver's list. There has been some damage to
some (inaudible), so what I have is just some blank forms I want to give Will if I
can and hope that the department manager will get them filled out. We need to
really update that. We are behind on terminations (inaudible).
Bird: We have got 3, 4, 5 of them right here. You guys will get that taken care
of?
Johnson: I will give these to Will so he can get them to you. Just quickly, any
time you dispose of equipment, like a vehicle or something, we need to know that
because it comes off of your insurance costs. Often times when new vehicles
are purchased and then they are designated to replace a vehicle, but some time
before you sell, you call me they are both on there and you are getting charged
for two when you really should only be getting charged for one. We go back as
far as we can on them, but sometimes it has been a year or so. I am working
with Rita on that, she is very good on that, so we have a better system now than
we ever had before. Adding new stuff, Kenny is very good he calls me on
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everything, but not all of the Department heads are in tune to that. I would just
reemphasis the need for that. Land Acquisitions sometimes the City either
receives through donation land or they buy land and it just sits there, you still
have a liability on it when it is just sitting there, some kid can out there and drive
a 4-wheeler or a motorcycle on it, that sort of thing could happen. It is not that
remote, so I think that anytime the City acquires property (inaudible). That is
basically all I have. Unless anybody has any questions. Obviously, anytime
there is an incident that you think is going to be a claim that needs to be reported
as soon as possible.
Bird: Any questions for Mr. Johnson regarding our insurance?
McCandless: Land Acquisitions, does that include say a certain amount of land
that in the middle of a subdivision zone or a park?
Johnson: Right, matter of fact the last 2 or 3 we put on have been near a
pathway or donated by the developer to be a future park or something that was
actually deeded to the City, so as soon as that happens the City has the liability
(inaudible ).
Bird: Any other questions? Thank you for coming Jim.
Johnson: You bet.
Issue #5
Discussion of Area of Impact Proposed Changes:
Stiles: We kind of went over these last meeting, and I do not know really what
response they are expecting.
De Weerd: Did Grant say what form of response he expected from us?
Bird: A written letter from a Council agreeing -
De Weerd: We cannot do that.
Bird: We cannot do that at this meeting now.
Stiles: Do you know what the two areas where that you were discussing
(inaudible) one property that dealt with the Muir Woods and then the other one
would have been that Winston Moore? One was Winston Moore and the other
Wilt Wanners Muir Woods over off of Cloverdale and Victory. The third one
would be over where the Boise Lynnex Golf Course is. I meant to get with Bill
and go over this and see what you might want. Our main concern is if agree to
any of this what impact is it going to have on our Comprehensive Plan and is it
something the City of Meridian should consider a change to its map. I have
gotten different opinions from Boise City and Ada County on that, so I do not
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know - Bill is there anybody in your office that has experience with that changing,
area of impact?
Nichols: I think Terry does and Chris Ney does in terms of -- Chris was involved
with the City of Homadale and their negotiation in the area of impact with
Owyhee County. It would impact the zoning map, would it not?
Stiles: The land use map?
Nichols: We are looking at a Comprehensive Plan process for the amendment of
Comprehensive Plan (inaudible) to actually adopt it.
Stiles: So our approach would just be to come up with a draft for you. I do not
know if we can by the next City Council meeting. Jonathon Seele back up again
on that Winston Moore piece. Do you think we will have anytime to do anything
by the 20th, by Friday?
Nichols: I can ask questions whether or not I will get any answers. I may ask the
questions tomorrow morning.
De Weerd: So the suggestion would be to run it concurrently with the
Comprehensive Plan.
Stiles: If it will -
De Weerd: If that is what we want to do.
Stiles: -- constitutes a change in our land use map, which would normally be
every 6 months.
Nichols: Actually, if you have a changing series that will impact, you will have to
(inaudible ).
Stiles: Trisha Nielsen seems to think it does not impact it. AI Simmons did not
know. I will call Wayne Gibbs tomorrow and see if - I thought AI would have
been the one to -
Bird: I have not been real clear on the take I heard (inaudible) if that is what you
are discussing -
Stiles: Trisha Nielsen is a Long-Range Planner for Ada County, and AI Simmons
is a long-range Planner for Boise City. Then Wayne Gibbs is Planning Director
for Boise City. So I really have been trying to find out about this will serve letter
that Jonathon is asking for, and I do not know where to request is coming from
because Ada County claims they do not it and Boise City says they do not need
it.
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Bird: I think that basically the change of impact as understood through Grant is
we have to write a letter stating that we will accept this land as our impact period,
and release.
Stiles: So maybe if we can find out if we can do that and not actually change the
map. It sounds like they are just going ahead with Boise City with whatever they
need to do there anyway.
Bird: I would suggest that if you get it by the 20th great if not we will have to wait
until the 27th. We cannot make decisions.
Stiles: You cannot make decisions or can you?
Bird: The 27th.
De Weerd: We could do it on the 27th?
Anderson: Yes because it is not a single applicant.
Stiles: It is a true City Council meeting -
Bird: So we could do it then?
Anderson: I was thinking just a letter that would say that the Meridian Mayor and
City Council are in agreement with the proposed land changes in the area of
impact.
Stiles: If they all are.
Nichols: I mean yes that is the first question. All of them around the table did not
say whether or not they are, and the second thing is the actual process the letter
does not change anything. Technically under the statute it is a negotiated
process with regard to where those boundaries are. So here we are talking
about more than just - is it just Meridian and Boise or Eagle. So we have three
cities plus the county, and I think what they are looking for is this is acceptable to
us or not because if it is acceptable then the process is each one of the entities
has to change an Ordinance. That is where we get into changing (inaudible)
Bird: So you are saying we need to take the gist out?
Nichols: Yes, I mean you can see if anybody has any problems with any of these
things, say so.
Bird: Cherie, Tammy?
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De Weerd: Yes and no. I understand all of them I just do not know about the will
serve letter is something totally different than this is. I do not mind taking the 12
acres in, but I am still not sure if I am in agreement with what is being proposed.
Anderson: If they do not give us this letter then they do not want it.
De Weerd: Right, they do not want it.
Anderson: This 12 acres coming into here-
Nichols: That is one of the complaints on the annexation bill was that the area of
impact negotiations between the political entities, the cities and the county and
the owners of the property have to have input into the classes at some stage
(inaudible). So I guess what I am saying to you is if you think this is acceptable
then it is very possible that this could be done even if Mr. Moore says I do not
want to be out. Possibility is to consider if as long as the property is okay with it,
we are okay with it.
Bird: I think that is basically what we are asking about. (Inaudible)
De Weerd: I have not had a chance to listen to that tape deck is there (inaudible)
Anderson: No that was about something else, relating to this No.6.
De Weerd: I just have a lot of questions, I am not sure I understand it well.
Discussion Inaudible
Bird: Council, do you want to write a letter draft -
De Weerd: I think we need to know if by changing it if we need to run it
concurrently with the Comprehensive Plan because if we approve it now and
does constitute a change. We cannot do anything on that Comprehensive Plan
for 6 months.
Stiles: Does the state code say that the Commission cannot make a
recommended change to Land Use map more recently than every 6 months?
Nichols: I think it is that you cannot adopt a change more than every 6 months.
Stiles: I do not if it changed, but I thought before it said the Commission can
recommend a change -
Discussion Inaudible
McCandless: When is that supposed to be adopted?
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De Weerd: Sometime this summer.
Bird: Okay, what is your pleasure Council?
Anderson: To draft a letter for contingence upon if it does not mess up adoption
of our Comprehensive Plan.
Issue #6
Discussion of Ada County Subdivision Applications:
Bird: YouJre on again, Shari.
Stiles: Well, we have not seen any yet, but we are told that we can expect on in
the next two weeks. Again, not having been able to get with Bill, not that I tried to
call you and you did not respond.
Nichols: Thank you.
Stiles: I guess what we would suggest is that they already have Larry Moore
working on some research.
Nichols: Let me kind of tell you what I have in mind. We believe that we are
going to receive a number of applications for urban density subdivision inside the
area of impact. We have not had a consistent way of reviewing those
applications in sufficient timely fashions to provide meaning full comment to Ada
County Planning Commission. So I talked with Shari about - I mean that is the
reason we are on here, we had a mind which was to develop an approach to take
with regard to what things to look for in these applications inside the area of
impact for which state code says we can comment. The area of impact within
Ada County says that we can comment, so that we can provide a meaningful
response. We have had some in the past year that I have been attending
Council meetings that they tend to come to us with insufficient information and
the county, I am not sure if you get a full copy of the application or at least get a
request for comment. That says you have received the application. What Shari
and I have talked about is coming up with a consistent approach regarding
information, like staff needs to do, what I mean when I say staff is Shari's office,
Mayor's office, Gary's office, and any other affected agency with site specific, so
they look at these applications so the comments can be provide so that that is in
the record (inaudible). If there are some of these that we feel are inappropriate,
take it off and say so. There are none right now that we are aware of that
specifically (inaudible)
Bird: Shari do you have anything to add to it?
Stiles: (inaudible)
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Anderson: Listening to that tape that one gal that you were talking about that
works for Ada County. It almost sounded to me like because she is used to
dealing with develops that are outside of cities. The requirements are actually
tied to existing City sewer lines, but she does not understand the significance of
those lines being laid to a certain elevation and then you just pick a spot and go
out 2 or 3 miles from your existing sewer lines, she just seems to think - the
impression I got from the tape is you could just put them in at any elevation as
long as they all fall one direction --
Stiles: That was Sharon Almond.
Anderson: -- and that you could just pipe to it, and then you could put in a lift
station. It seemed to me like somebody needed to really spend a little time - and
I did not hear Gary's voice on the tape so maybe he was not there. Somebody
needs to explain at least to her the problems with lift stations and the reasons
why you just cannot go out there in the middle of anywhere and start a
development because those elevations - if you run into some difficult terrain or
whatever, they can change a few inches and if all of the sudden you have a
hump in the middle it is not going to work. That was a concern I had when I
listened to that tape. I think it sound like Roger Simmons sounds like he was in
supportive of the developments waiting until they were contiguous and until the
City was ready to annex them and Grant was like, go put in water and sewer and
he is fine with it.
Stiles: No what he said was go ahead and annex it.
Anderson: Which did not show a lot of insight to me that - Roger Simmons was
the only one that talked about and understanding that it takes more than water
and sewer to make a City and to make a community. I had concerns about the
other two Commissioners and it sounded like we needed to do some addition
education with them otherwise they may be prone to approve these types of
developments.
Bird: Any other comments, Council? Thank you Shari. If you want to get
something drawn up for us if you want to come back to the next workshop.
Stiles: When is the next one?
Bird: The 10th of April, yours will probably be a long presentation because we are
giving an hour to Urban Renewal --
De Weerd: I think that the meeting that we had with the County Commissioners
last June, they were very supportive of our area of impact and that the City would
plan that area of impact and as long as we stayed with our commitment to
servicing that area within that 10 year period which we have 7 years left, that
they felt comfortable continuing along that line. Yes, we have only had one
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commission member change since then and I agree with Ron. I think she needs
to spend some time with Gary or yourself and understand what Ron picked up in
the conversation with the staff, and maybe we need to meet with them again and
really get a firmer idea of - and they said that they would meet with us on regular
basis.
Bird: I think we ought to meet quarterly with them because our area of impact is
becoming a busy place out there (inaudible)
De Weerd: And also to let the Development Community know what our plans
are. What is the time frame on the North Slough and those kinds of things? I
think by kind of setting out a time-line that is going to help us with our
relationships with the developments and maybe reducing the amount of
applications and firming up our commitment to them as well as to the county to
service that area.
Bird: We can ask the Mayor to set up another general meeting. I am like Ron,
on the tape it had different views then what we had sitting here in our meeting
with them. They were all going to let the City plan their deals and -
De Weerd: I know our department heads have a lot of concerns and certainly not
just in our development services, in our police and fire. I know our fire services
regardless, but it makes a difference.
Anderson: It does make a difference the density because your run volume goes
up tremendously there, and it is different if it is developed right now in rural
because that equates to x number of calls. When all of sudden you develop that
urban density, then it is no longer a matter that you can handle to occasional call
out there because then you have to have a fire station and personnel there and
that is what they all seem to be missing the concept of.
Bird: Any other deals? Thank you.
Anderson: I agree with Tammy. Maybe when we have the meeting with them it
might be good to do that either at the waste treatment plant or have Gary and his
staff put on a little demonstration about what our plan servicing of those areas is.
Because we know what that plan is, we sat down and went through that, but they
do not know what that plan is, so like Tammy is saying, they are kind of out there
in the dark thinking if Meridian is not going to do it, then we will do something for
them. So if they were informed about what our plan is then they might be more
likely to support us in sticking with us.
Bird: I agree with you Ron.
Issue #7
Discussion of Update of Water and Sewer Fees:
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Bird: Gary, the Council was wondering how the update on our water and sewer
fees are coming. I know you are a very busy man.
Smith: Brad has a few (inaudible) that he is putting together. (Inaudible) but I
will have something.
Bird: I would prefer if Brad could get his presentation to us in writing and thus
putting it on the agenda for the next planning session of the 10th.
De Weerd: Shari Stiles can you also have something available on your
department's fee increases at our next workshop? I am sorry to interrupt you.
Stiles: Inaudible
De Weerd: Do you want us to act on that? You said they were-
Stiles: If you have any comments or suggestions -
De Weerd: Well, perhaps you could present it again and if you could get any of
your questions for Shari prior to that. Does everyone still have a copy of that? If
you could review and get any comments to Shari we can revisit it next month
again.
Bird: Let us do that. What we are talking on the water and sewer is basically
new fees, so they will not have Public Hearings anyway. Shari can you get them.
We do have the paper and everything, but can you get that so can we can have a
little presentation and refresh our memories.
Stiles: We have monitored our workload and how we spent our time for two
months, so we have that information. (Inaudible).
De Weerd: And Shari you were going to run that through VCA as well, were you
not? Didn't they say they would review those for you?
Stiles: I do not know.
De Weerd: We will talk about it.
(I naudible Discussion.)
McCandless: We are not close in proximity to any other meetings.
Anderson: The other thought I have is not only Gary's department talking about
the water and sewer and the plans that they have, but I think we should instruct
the department heads from the Parks, Police, and the Fire to put together a
presentation on what kind of problems is creates for their department. When you
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go outside and have this little spot annexation because those department heads
who do not articulate very well to us and to county Commissioners as to what
kind of problems it causes for them.
McCandless: I like that idea.
Bird: We could get that.
De Weerd: I think it is a school issue too because you cannot have a school out
in the middle of nowhere either so - two huge subdivisions.
Bird: We will get our part taken care of.
Discussion Inaudible
Bird: I think we have covered our future topics for the next meeting. We have
the list as to what we are going to have down there. We are going to have Mr.
Johnson and his Committee in for one hour that is going to last 1-% hours. We
are also going to have the fee structures from Gary and Shari brought before us.
We are going to have I guess the discussion of the area if we do not get that
taken care of, we are going to get that taken care of the 20th.
Nichols: This area of impact, the letter-which is a corollary issue. The area of
impact issue is related to that.
Bird: That is about all, because you know we are going to - Urban Renewal is
going to have to be gone over with a fine tooth comb to make sure that we get
everything, it is going to last over an hour.
Berg: This comment, the Mayor asked me to set up a special meeting for next
Tuesday at 6 p.m. to have COMPASS do a presentation and get some feed back
dealing with the 1-84 corridor. Gary sent out a memo about an open house that
ITP was going to have that Wednesday so they wanted us to have some
information on Tuesday and get some input, so that will be 6 p.m. I will send out
a reminder for a half of an hour earlier.
Bird: Thank you Will, anything else from your department?
Unidentified Speaker: Will, you sent me over this private security service system,
do you think it needs to be revised?
Berg: I need you to look through it because I think it some updated material
there.
Unidentified: This is essentially something that licenses private security firms.
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Berg: There is some confusion about security company and particular agents
and control officers, some things that I think need to be cleaned up to make it
clear and more understanding. I just want to discuss that with you after you have
been able to go over it. I guess I can give you some updates on elections. Bill
sent you kind of a draft resolution, and I went through it will some different things
and concepts and also going back to the discussion about the county running
elections. I talked to Dave Navarro today, and the county really does not want to
run elections. They will assist and help on certain aspects, but they will not
necessarily contract and run the whole election. They go back to the state
statutes which say the City Clerk will be the election officer and it is up to them to
make sure everything runs smoothly, so as far as hiring judges and clerks,
overseeing the election, making sure it is all set up, that is still the cities
responsibility. That is how they run it with Boise and Garden City. At Boise they
do a few more things, but it is a very large election for them. At this same time
on May 22, Boise is running another election dealing with the foothills issues, and
they will have all 92 precincts in full force for elections. So about the only thing
that the county will do will be reprogram and count punch cards. So I am talking
with Dave Navarro about that to see if it is any faster. We are going to have one
ballot issue. Obviously, he says it is cheaper to do paper ones but does not
know if it would save any time placing taking them in there and having them
counted. Obviously, if all we do is just count the cards that can be done very
fast. 1 000 and so many minutes, but you have to get them there, you have to
have them in line after Boise's precincts, and so it may not be as fast as what we
could do. So we are still researching that out. I will get with Bill on the
resolution.
Nichols: There are a couple of errors.
Berg: But there are a few other things, if we are going to have 4 precincts this
time instead of 3 like we had at the last election. Dave advised me that we will
probably have a bigger turn out when it comes to your pocket book rather than
Councilor mayor elections. So he said prepare for a bigger turnout. We had
talked before about having 4 precincts this next time, so maybe this would be an
indication of how to set those up.
De Weerd: I know that Ron and the Mayor were going to pull some strategy
together. I really think we need to form a Citizens Committee. This really needs
to be done by the City citizens, and I know a number of them were talking about
during the budget. I also did talk to the Parks Commission last night, and they
are very interested in getting involved. Jim Keller, who has been involved on
certainly the school bonds, is more than happy to serve on focus group.
Bird: Tammy why do you not do the Committee?
De Weerd: I am not doing the Committee. I am doing too many committees.
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Bird: Well, get yourself a Committee Councilman Anderson.
Anderson: I need more direction. I do not know what you are talking about. Are
you talking to do -?
De Weerd: The Mill Levy, outreach, get people supporting it and those that do
get them to the polls. I think Jim Keller would be a real asset since he has done
the bonds.
Anderson: That was just something that I think the Mayor threw together that
night and said Ron and I will work on that. He has never had any discussions
with me or ideas.
De Weerd: Well, you better start with it. Time is short.
Bird: Chief Gordon do you have anything?
Gordon: No, I do not.
Bird: Thank you, Chief Bowers any thing more?
Bowers: No.
Bird: Mr. Smith?
Smith: Nothing, sir.
Bird: Mrs. Stiles, I think she has gone home. Anybody from the public with
anything? A question or anything you want to ask? Thank you for coming. We
appreciate you coming out and listening to us. Council, does anybody have
anything?
McCandless: I have a question.
Bird: Okay, Cherie.
McCandless: And it is merely a question because I do not how they work this.
The Human Resources Budget, do they put ads in papers in different states? Do
they not pay for that? Should it not come out of the (inaudible)?
Bird: No, no it comes out of the department looking for an applicant. Fire
Department, if the police is looking for someone they have to put - it comes out
of their budget.
McCandless: But it was not budgeted.
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Anderson: It is not budgeted in the HR either.
Bird: It is not budgeted in HR.
Anderson: So if you anticipate doing hiring or advertising you need to budget for
it.
McCandless: That is the first time I have ever heard of that. They do not do that
in private enterprises.
Nichols: Sometimes you do not anticipate, so you need to make sure you have
something in your budget to cover it.
Bird: Cherie goes; whoever is wanting the applicant pays the advertising. HR
does it for them, but they do not pay the advertising budget. It comes out of that
department. That has always been the policy that I knew of.
McCandless: I have just never heard of that before. If that is the policy then that
is the policy.
Anderson: Well, we should make all of the Department heads aware of that,
though.
McCandless: Absolutely.
Anderson: So they know that.
Bird: Well, I think up until they did their own thing because we did not have an
HR. Each Department went out and sent out there own applications for
employment, but now it is all run through HR. I am sure some of them assume
that is where it is getting paid for, but it is out of the Department budgets.
Anderson: It is one of those things that some people took for granted. They
would know it and other people did not.
De Weerd: Mr. President, I am working on the newsletter that needs to go out
this month. I went to the Department head meeting today and asked if they had
anything to submit, to get that to me. If there are any topics you want to have in
there, I will try and have a draft at our meeting on Tuesday and see what you
think.
Unidentified: This is geared to the employees?
De Weerd: The employee newsletter.
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Unidentified: You should probably have something about this Mill Levy coming
up, so they can pass the word on about how important it is. That may take some
time.
De Weerd: Can you pull that together?
Bird: Any other topics Council?
De Weerd: Just a couple of dates that I picked up at the meeting this morning. It
looks like Generations Plaza 2 will be opening late May, early June.
Bowers: They will plan the grand opening on June 2nd that is what we are
talking about for the Fire Station.
De Weerd: June 2nd? I have mid-May.
Bowers: Everybody mark that out for the grand opening of the station too.
De Weerd: Finance Director interviews will start the week of March 26th.
Contract negotiations begin this week, and new fire fighters will be hired on April
2.
Bird: Anything else?
Berg: Did everybody get on their calendar when the Ale conference is? Yes it is
in the middle of the month.
Berg: The Mayor's breakfast is the 21st, did everyone-
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De Weerd: The Chamber gave the City a set amount of tickets.
Bird: Okay, anything else?
Berg: As I mentioned before, we need to set up a date for our public hearing for
our budget so we need to get your vacation schedules and kind of meet and
figure out what date we can do it. I have to have that in by April 30th. The sooner
we can plan it then you guys can plan around it.
De Weerd: And speaking of the budget, I think that last year we kind of took a
step that needed to be done, but we did not follow through with it. That is goal
setting. I know we have been postponing the strategic planning until we have a
finance director, but I really feel strongly that we need to set some City goals and
then have the Department heads set their goals and see how they mesh together
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and maybe help with prioritizing them. I am one of those people that believe in
goal setting.
Bird: Council, I want to remind you -
De Weerd: But we have to do the Cities.
Bird: -- we need to make sure that we read our Ordinance, in the Ordinance
each Council liaison is responsible for evaluating the Department head they are
over and you do the raises. I brought this up last year. It is not the Mayor that
does it; it is the Council. You read your Ordinance.
McCandless: I just read it.
Anderson: The Mayor asked last year when he was doing them if anybody had -
Bird: That is right.
Anderson: -- and I gave him some on Kenny, but no one else gave him any
input.
Bird: I gave him all of mine.
McCandless: I was told to sit in on the evaluation but never was told when it
was.
De Weerd: Yes, me neither.
Anderson: I would put in writing if you have input and just give it to the Mayor,
because I know they incorporated what I said with Kenny.
Bird: I think they did with mine as well, but anyone just take care of it. That
should be part of budget process, is their wages. So we need to make sure we
get that done.
McCandless: Well now our budget hearings, we did ones for the year from each
department. We had that in the middle of the summer last year.
Bird: But we need to work with our people so that we do not come in and give a
bunch of big surprises. Everybody knows how tight we are going to be. We
should as liaisons help the Department heads. Gary has always showed me the
budget and they have always been very conservative. We know what we are
going to have. We are not going to have much more than we had last year.
Anderson: Well, we need to wait and see if the Mill Levy increase passes and
then depending on what happens with that then we need to sit down and have a
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budget workshop with just the Council and then decide what direction we are
going to give to the Department heads. If we are going to say stick to a 3 percent
increase and no personnel or x number of personnel, we need to give them more
direction. I think we have done a poor job of providing direction in the past.
Nichols: I would encourage you to try and do that in advance of this election,
because if you can say to the voters, we anticipate this would raise x number of
dollars, this is where we would plan to spend it. Some of the high priority areas
that you have. I would suspect that people are more likely to vote in favor of
something that they knew for sure where the money was going.
McCandless: You know a friend of mine said that to me the other day. That they
would like to come to the Public Hearing and find out exactly where the extra was
going to go to, and if they were funding like public safety for instance better than
we have. They want to know.
Bird: That is not a bad idea. I think we need to look into having a couple
meetings off of Tuesday, maybe a little shorter session.
De Weerd: So Keith, we need you to then ask the Mayor not only to set up the
meeting with the County Commissioners and have our presentations, but also to
follow up with the focus group. See if we can get it heavy on citizens to help rise
that Mill Levy, get a goal setting session going here and we really need to have
him ask the Department heads to start working on the budgets.
Bird: Like Ron said, we need to tell them how much we are going to give them.
Anderson: We need to direct them before they spend a lot of hours working on a
budget.
McCandless: As far as my schedule is concerned I will be missing the 15th of
May.
Bird: Well we need to get this taken care of.
McCandless: I will be gone between the 9th and the 16th of May. Other than that
I will be here until September.
Bird: Okay, anything else? If not, I would entertain a motion to adjourn.
Anderson: Second.
Bird: Moved and seconded. All in favor?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
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Bird: We will adjourn, 8:15 p.m.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:15 P.M.
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Re: Appraisal of
Vacant Site
2401 North Ten Mile Road
Meridian, Idaho
MS-5729-01
Dear Mr. Bowers:
In accordance with your request and for the purpose of estimating the present market value of the
above-captioned property. I have made investigations and analyses of matters believed to be pertinent to
the estimation of its present market value.
Subject to the assumptions and limiting conditions set forth and based on information retained in our
files and ~ttached hereto, the market value of the subject property. as of February 6, 2001, was estimated
to have been:
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adaptable usage. It can be noted that the Meridian City/Rural Fire Department building is presently under
construction at this location, but is not a part of this appraisal assignment
This is a summary appraisal report which is intended to comply with the reporting requirements set
forth under Standards Rule 2-2(b) of the Uniform Standards of Professional Appraisal Practice for a
summary appraisal report As such, it presents only summary discussions of the data, reasoning, and
analyses that were used in the appraisal process to develop the appraiser's opinion of value. Supporting
documentation concerning the data, reasoning, and analyses is retained in the appraiser's file pertinent to
this property and attached hereto. The depth of discussion contained in this report is specific to the needs
of the client and for the intended use stated later in this report. The appraiser is not responsible for
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To: Mayor Robert Corrie, City Council Members
From: Chief Ken W. Bowers
Date: March 9,2001
Re: 1973 Ford Fire Truck
Meridian Fire Department needs to surplus some of our fire vehicles. We have a
1973 Ford American LaFrance Fire Truck serial #213325, which is owned by the City
of Meridian. Meridian Fire Department would like the City to donate this vehicle to
Lowman Fire Department, Lowman, Idaho. They are just starting a Fire Department
in their area and have limited funds available for vehicles or equipment. Meridian
Fire Department had an appraisal on this vehicle by Hughes Fire Equipment. First
thil19 they said was there is not a lot of interest in this style of truck. The estimated
value came back at around $8,000.00. Caldwell Fire Department had a similar style
of truck and they had a difficult time getting rid of it, it took several months. OUf truck
does need some repair work, but for a department that would go on 1 0 to 20
emergencies calls a year, this truck would be adequate. According to Idaho State
Law Section 50-1405, a city can exchange or gift, real or personal property. This
truck would workout very well, if some of Meridian residents living in or visiting this
area ever had an emergency. If you have any questions, please contact me.
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MEMORANDUM
To: William G. Berg, Jr.
Subject:
Urban Renewal Area Resolution
Date:
March 9,2001
Attached you will find the original of the Urban Renewal Area
Resolution, along with the attached map of the area. This matter will be discussed at
the March 13th Workshop, and then placed upon the City Council agenda for March
20,2001. Please make sure copies are distributed to the Mayor and Council
members.
If you have any questions please advise.
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RESOLUTION NO.
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN,
IDAHO, DETERMINING CERTAIN PROPERTY DESCRIBED BELOW TO BE
A DETERIORATED AREA OR A DETERIORATING AREA OR A
COMBINATION THEREOF AND DESIGNATING SUCH AREA AS
APPROPRIATE FORAN URBAN RENEWAL PROJECT.
BE IT RESOL YED BY'THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO:
WHEREAS, the area described below contains land which has a predominance
of defective or inadequate street layout, faulty lot layout in relation to size, adequacy,
accessibility or usefulness, diversity of ovvnership, or a combination of such factors,
resulting in economic underdevelopment of the area which substantially impairs or
arrests the sound growth of the City of Meridian; and
WHEREAS, the area described below contains land which is predominantly
open and which has diversity of ovvnership, resulting in economic underdevelopment
of the area or substantially impairs or arrests the sound gro'Wth of the City of
Meridian.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOL YED BY THE MAYOR AND CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO, AS FOLLOWS:
SECTION I: That the area shovvn on the map, which is attached hereto
and incorporated herein by reference, is determined to be a deteriorated area or a
deteriorating area, or a combination thereof.
SECTION 2: That the area described above is designated as appropriate
for an urban renewal project, and shall be knovvn as Urban Renewal Area # I.
SECTION 3: That the Mayor and City Council hereby find it necessary
and advisable, in order to assure orderly economic development that the above
described area, and is in the public interest for management and sound growth, to
designate the above area to be known as Urban Renewal Area # 1.
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PASSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO,
this day of , 2001.
APPROVED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO, this
day of ,2001.
By:
Mayor Robert D. Corrie
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MERIDIAN CITY COUNCil MEETING
Department Report
March 6, 2001
APPLICANT Planning and Zoning Dept. - Shari Stiles
REQUEST Proposed Changes to the Area of Impact
ITEM NO.
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AGENCY
COMMENTS
CITY CLERK:
CITY ENGINEER:
CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR:
CITY ATTORNEY
CITY POLICE OEPT:
CITY FIRE DEPT:
CITY BUILDING DEPT:
CITY WATER DEPT:
CITY SEWER DEPT:
MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT:
MERIDIAN POST OFFICE:
ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT:
SANtT ARY SERVICE COMPANY
CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION:
SETTLERS IRRIGATION:
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INTERMOUNTAIN GAS:
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Materials presented at public meetings shaD become property of the City of Meridian..
Re-negotiation of the Area of Impact Boundary
Boise City Council and Board of Ada County Commissioners
February 27, 2001
1.. 159..8 acres from Boise City Area of Impact to Eagle City Area of Impact.
.. Dry Creek Cemetery Property and the Bonita Hills Subdivision, which is serviced by the Eagle
Sewer District.. The request was made by Eagle City Mayor Y zzagui:re, and was discussed by
Public Works staff: PDS staff and Mayor Coles.
2. 12..23 acres of a larger 58 acre parcel. The owner, Winston Moore, desires to develop the
property all under Meridian City jwisdiction. He is therefore asking that the 12 acre parcel be
transferred from the Boise to the Meridian Area of City Impact. This is within Boise City limits,
so it would also have to be de-annexed.
3. 8.6 acres of the Muir Woods Su~vision, which would be transferred from the Meridian to the
Boise Area of City Impact. There is also a 5.3 acre parcel immediately to the SOU~ which is in
the Boise area of impact, and would be transfeITed to the Meridian area of impact.. These two
parcels. were developed in the respective areas of impact under the exception role in Chapter 15 of
the Zoning Ordinance, which allows properties which are split by the boundary line to be
developed under the jurisdiction in which the larger portion lies.
4. 2.7 acres in Medalist Subdivision. Similar to Muir Woods. It was developed in the Boise
Area oflmpact and with Boise sewer, but a suiall portion extended outside the Area of Impact.
The 3 acres would be transferred from the Meridian to the Boise Area of Impact.
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RECEIVED
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From:
Wm. F. Nichols
CITY OF MERIDIAN
Subject:
Urban Renewal Area Resolution
Date:
March 9, 2001
Attached you will find the original of the Urban Renewal Area
Resolution, along with the attached map of the area. This matter will be discussed at
the March 13th Worl(shop, and then placed upon the City Council agenda for March
20, 200 I. Please make sure copies are distributed to the Mayor and Cou11cil
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RESOLUTION NO.
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN,
IDAHO, DETERMINING CERTAIN PROPERTY DESCRIBED BELOW TO BE
A DETERIORATED AREA OR A DETERIORATING AREA OR A
COMBINATION THEREOF AND DESIGNATING SUCH AREA AS
APPROPRIATE FORAN URBAN RENEWAL PROJECT.
BE IT RESOLVED BY THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO:
WHEREAS, the area described below contains land which has a predominance
of defective or inadequate street layout, faulty lot layout in relation to size, adequacy,
accessibility or usefulness, diversity of ownership, or a combination of such factors,
resulting in economic underdevelopment of the area which substantially impairs or
arrests the sound growth of the City of Meridian; and
WHEREAS, the area described below contains land which is predominantly
open and which has diversity of ownership, resulting in economic underdevelopment
of the area or substantially impairs or arrests the sound growth of the City of
Meridian.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE MAYOR AND CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO, AS FOLLOWS:
SECTION 1: That the area shown on the map, which is attached hereto
and incorporated herein by reference, is deterlnined to be a deteriorated area or a
deteriorating area, or a combination thereof.
SECTION 2: That the area described above is designated as appropriate
for an urban renewal project, and shall be IGlown as Urban Renewal Area # 1.
SECTION 3: That the Mayor and City Council hereby find it necessary
and advisable, in order to assure orderly economic development that the above
described area, and is in the public interest for management and sound growth, to
designate the above area to be known as Urban Renewal Area # I.
URBAN RENEWAL AREA RESOLUTION
PAGE I OF 2
PASSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO,
this day of , 2001.
APPROVED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO, this
day of ,2001.
By:
Mayor Robert D. Corrie
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City Clerk
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MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL MEETING
March 6, 2001
APPLICANT
ITEM NO.
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REQUEST Resolution - Meridian Urban Renewal Area No. 1
AGENCY COMMENTS
CITY CLERK:
CITY ENGINEER:
CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR:
CITY ATTORNEY
CITY POLICE DEPT:
CITY FIRE DEPT:
CITY BUILDING DEPT:
CITY WATER DEPT:
CITY SEWER DEPT:
MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT:
MERIDIAN POST OFFICE:
ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT:
SANITARY SERVICE COMPANY
CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION:
SETTLERS IRRIGATION:
IDAHO POWER:
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MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL MEETING
March 6, 2001
APPLICANT Planning and Zoning Dept. - Shari Stiles
REQUEST Proposed Changes to the Area of Impact
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Department Report
ITEM NO.
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AGENCY
COMMENTS
CITY CLERK:
CITY ENGINEER:
CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR:
CITY ATTORNEY
CITY POLICE DEPT:
CITY FIRE DEPT:
CITY BUILDING DEPT:
CITY WATER DEPT:
CITY SEWER DEPT:
MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT:
MERIDIAN POST OFFICE:
ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT:
SANITARY SERVICE COMPANY
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NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION:
SETTLERS IRRIGATION:
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February 27, 2001
1. 159.8 acres from Boise City Area of Impact to Eagle City Area of Impact.
.. Dry Creek Cemetery Property and the Bonita Hills Subdivision, which is serviced by the Eagle
Sewer District. The request was made by Eagle City Mayor Y zzaguire, and was discussed by
Public Works staff, PDS staff and Mayor Coles.
2.. ]2~23 acres ofa larger 58 acre parcel. The owner, Winston Moore, desires to develop the
property all under Meridian City jurisdiction. He is therefore asking that the 12 acre parcel be
transferred from the Boise to the Meridian Area of City Impact. This is within Boise City limits,
so it would also have to be de-annexed.
3. 8.6 acres of the Muir Woods Sub4ivision, which would be transferred from the Meridian to the
Boise Area of City Impact. There is also a 5.3 acre parcel immediately to the sout~ which is in
the Boise area of impact, and would be transfelTed to the Meridian area of impact. These two
parcels. were developed in the respective areas of impact under the exception rule in Chapter 15 of
the Zoning Ordinance, which allows properties which are split by the boundary line to be
developed under the jurisdiction in which tbe larger portion lies.
4. 2.7 acres in Medalist Subdivision. Similar to Muir Woods. It was developed in the Boise
Area of Impact and with Boise sewer, but a srriall portion extended outside the Area of Impact.
The 3 acres would be transferred from the Meridian to the Boise Area of Impact.
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RECEIVED
MAR - 1 2001
March 1, 2001
CITY OF MERIDIAN
Mayor Robert Corrie
Members of Meridian City Council
City of Meridian
33 East Idaho Ave.
Meridian, Idaho
Re: Northwest Comer of Us tick and Eagle Road
Dear Mayor and Council Members:
As requested at the February 20th Meridian City Council hearing, I have enclosed the letter from Mayor
Brent Coles to the Board of Ada County Commissioners requesting to renegotiate the Boise City impact
area~
The Mayor, Boise City Council and Ada County Commissioners met on Tuesday, February 27th and agreed
that the area of impact could be renegotiated, that is the Impact Ordinance can be amended (please let me
know if you would like a copy of the minutes once they become available). As I understand it, if Meridian
agrees to the Will Serve Utility Letter and modifying the impact area, the next step will be the formal
approval process with Meridian, Boise and Ada County~ In other words, until we receive a decision from
Meridian no further action will be taken.
On a related Issue I have given Gary Smith the information we used to determine if the proposed Ustick
sewer can serve the land within the Boise impact area
Please feel free to call should you have any questions~
cc: Gary Smith, City of Meridian, w/encL
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February 21., 2001
Board of Ada County Coaunissioners
650 W. Main Street
Boise. Idaho 83702
Rc: Requ~'"t to Renegotiate the Boise City Area ofImpacr Boundary
Dear Commissioners:
W. H. Moore Company m:ently requested input from the Boise City Council on a proposal to remove
approximately 12 acres ofaSB-acre parcel from tht Boise City Area of Impact and the incorporated area of tile
City. The subject property is located on the northwest comer of Eagle and Ustick Roads. Approximately 12
acres in the northeast comer of the property are within the Boise Area of Impact and corpor.tc limits, while the
balance is within the Meridian Area of Impact. The owner plans to develop a business park and prefers thal aU
of the property be within one city jurisdiction.
The Council reviewed th~ request on February 13,2001 and concluded that it was a fair and reasonable request
and it would be appropriate to submit the request to Ada County. The owner has been advised that the governing
boards of Ada County and Boise City must hold a negotiation meeting and if a~ent is reached, the actual
boundary change must go through the hearing process by each jurisdiction.
In accordance with the Ada County-Boise City Area of Impact Agreement and Idaho Code Section 67-6526(d),
Boise City hereby mIuest a meeting to renegotiate th~ Boise City Area of Impact boundary as requested by the
W. H. Moore Company. In accordance with the renegotiation proce5Sy a meeting shall occur within 30 days of
receipt of this request..
To facilitate a timely renegotiation meeting, this issue can be placed on the City Council noon meeting agenda
for F ebrwuy 21) 200 1, if that time and date is convenient for the ~sioners.
If the Commissioner's schedule does not allow a meeting at that time,. please le[ me know a date and time that
will work for you.'
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JeffPatlovich, Director, Ada COWlty Development Services
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MEMORANDUM
William G. Berg, Jr.
RECElVEP
MAR - 9 2001
To:
CITY OF ~IERIDIAN
From:
Subject:
Resolution To Raise Tax Levy Rate FY 2001-2002
Date:
March 9, 2001
Please find attached the original of the Resolution pertaining to the tax
levy rate for 2001-2002. This matter will now need to be placed upon an up coming
City Council meeting.
If you have any questions please give me a call.
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RESOLUTION NO.
A RESOLUTION PROCLAIMING A SPECIAL CITY ELECTION TO BE HELD ON
MAY 20, 2001, DESIGNATING THE POLLING PLACE AND ESTABLISHING ONE
CITY-WIDE ELECTION PRECINCT; DESIGNATING THE REGISTRAR AND
DEPUTY REGISTRARS, AND ORDERING THE CITY CLERK TO GIVE NOTICE OF
SUCH ELECTION.
BE IT RESOL YED BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
MERIDIAN, THAT:
SECTION 1: A special city election will be held in and for the City of Meridian, Idaho
on the 20th day of May, 2001, for the purpose of considering the following proposition:
Shall the City be allowed to increase its budget for the 2001/2002
budget year, by an amount not to exceed the difference between
.004 and the amount of the levy for the 2000/2001 budget year,
multiplied by the market value of assessable property in such year?
SECTION 2: The election precinct or precincts shall be as designated by Ada County,
pursuant to the provisions of Title 34, Idaho Code and the polling place for such election shall be
the Meridian City Hall, 33 East Idaho, Meridian, Idaho.
SECTION 3: The County Clerk shall be the registrar for such special election and shall
conduct voter registration in accordance with the provisions of Idaho Code Section 34-1402.
SECTION 4: The City Clerk shall give public notice of the time and place of holding
such special city election by posting such notice in tlrree public places or publishing such notice
in at least two issues of the Idaho Statesman, the official newspaper of the City of Meridian,
Idaho, and two issues of the Valley Times distributed out of Eagle, Idaho, the first publication of
such notice to be made not less than 12 days previous to the date of such city election and the last
publication not less than 5 days prior to the election. The notice so published shall state the
polling place in each precinct and the hours during which the polls shall be open for the purpose
of voting and shall contain such information as is required under Section 50-436 of the Idaho
Code.
Resolution To Raise Tax Levy Rate FY 2001-2002 Page 1 of2
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of March, 2001.
Robert D. Corrie, Mayor
ATTEST:
William G. Berg, Jr., City Clerk
Resolution To Raise Tax Levy Rate FY 2001-2002 Page 2 of2
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650 Main Streell Boise,ldaho
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9/25/97 (rom)