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MAYOR
Robert D. Corrie
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CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
Ron Anderson
Keith Bird
Tammy deWeerd
Cherie McCandless
CITY OF MERIDIAN
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MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642
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NOTICE OF PRE-COUNCIL MEETING
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of Meridian
will hold a Pre-Council Meeting at City Hall, 33 East Idaho Avenue, Meridian,
Idaho, on Tuesday, February 15, 2000 at 6:30 PM. The Meridian City Council
will discuss agenda items, which are on the regular scheduled City Council
meeti ng .
The public is welcome to attend.
DATED this 10th day of February, 2000.
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Meridian City Council
Agenda
Tuesday, February 15, 2000 @ 7:30 P.M.
City Council Chambers
Roll Call:
X Ron Anderson X
X Tammy deWeerd X
X Mayor Robert Corrie
Cherie McCandless
Keith Bird
Consent Aaenda
A. Approve minutes of February 1, 2000, Special Pre-Council meeting:
Approve
B. Treasure Valley Economic Development $5,000 Commitment: Approve
c. Approve minutes of February 1, 2000, City Council meeting: Approve
D. 1998/1999 FY Audit: Approve
E. Development Agreement: AZ 99-013 Request for annexation and
zoning of 1.9 acres to R-2 by Charles Crane - 3610 W. Ustick Road:
Approve
F. Development Agreement: AZ 99-018 Request for annexation and
zoning of 7.25 acres to C-G by Overland Mini Storage, LLC: Table until
3/7/00
G. Moved to regular agenda
H. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: CUP 99-034 Request for a
Conditional Use Permit to construct a single-tenant commercial building
with a drive-thru window (Walgreen's) by Hawkins Smith Management,
Inc. - NW corner of Fairview and Locust Grove: Tabled to 317/00
I. Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and Conclusions of
Law: Vac 99-005 Request for vacation of the easement lying adjacent to
the lot line common to Lots 6 and 7, Block 3, Thunder Creek Subdivision
by Thunder Creek Partnership, LLC - south of Cherry Lane, east of Ten
Mile on Gray Cloud Way: Approve
J. Moved to regular agenda
City Council Agenda - February 15, 2000
K. Moved to regular agenda
L. Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and Conclusions of
Law: CUP 99-033 Request for Conditional Use Permit for 81,000 s.f.
mini-storage on Lot 2 of proposed Overland Mini Storage Subdivision
by Overland Mini Storage, LLC - 1230 East Overland Road: Tabled to
3n/OO
M. Agreement with Randy Ware for sewer I water hookup:
Reaular Aaenda
G. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: AZ 99-019 Request for
annexation and zoning of 4.34 acres to C-G (Walgreen's) by Hawkins
Smith Management, Inc. - NW corner of Fairview and Locust Grove:
Move to regular agenda - approve with modifications
J. Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and Conclusions of
Law: AZ 99-022 Request for annexation and zoning of 10 acres to L-Q
for proposed Magic View Office Complex by W.H. Moore Company -
Eagle Road and Magic View: Move to regular agenda - tabled to 3/7/00
K. Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and Conclusions of
Law: CUP 99-040 Request for Conditional Use Permit to provide multiple
buildings on a single site and an ancillary restaurant in proposed L-Q zone
for proposed Magic View Office Complex by W.H. Moore Company -
Eagle Road and Magic View: Move to regular agenda - tabled to 3nl00
1. Ordinance No. : AZ 99-018 Request for annexation and
zoning of 7.25 acres to C-G by Overland Mini Storage, LLC: Tabled to
3nlOO
2. Ordinance No. 858: AZ 99-013 Request for annexation and zoning of
1.9 acres to R-2 by Charles Crane - 3610 W. Ustick Road: Approve
3. Tabled from February 1,2000 meeting: FP 00-003 Request for final
plat of Gemtone No.4 Subdivision - 6 buildable lots on 7.84 acres in an
I-L zone by Thomas T. Wright located in the NE %, Section 8, T3N, R1 E
(west of Hickory Avenue between Pine and State): Withdrew application
City Council Agenda - February 15, 2000
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4. CUP 00-001 Request for Conditional Use Permit for proposed temporary
parking and product storage on adjacent lots zoned C-G by Gary Bodily -
Bodily RV - Meridian Road between Franklin Road and Gem Street:
Attorney to prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for
approval
5. Public Hearing: AZ 99-010 Request for annexation and zoning of
150.79 acres to R-4 by Bear Creek, LLC - east of Stoddard Road and
south of Overland: Tabled to 3/7/00
6. Public Hearing: PP 99-010 Request for preliminary plat for proposed
Bear Creek Subdivision - 326 single-family lots on 150.79 acres by Bear
Creek, LLC - east of Stoddard Road and south of Overland: Tabled to
3"/00
7. Public Hearing: AZ 99-021 Request for annexation and zoning of 8.25
acres to R-8 for proposed Woodhaven Subdivision by Dan Wood I D.W.,
Inc. - west of Eagle Road between Overland and east Victory: Attorney
to prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for approval to
R-4
8. Public Hearing: RZ 00-001 Request for rezone of 1.761 acres from R-8
and R-15 to entirely R-15 by Lynd Hoover - 1318 E. 4th: Attorney to
prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for approval
9. Public Hearing: AZ 00-001 Request for annexation and zoning of 7.99
acres to R-4 by Robert Glenn - Ustick Road west of Locust Grove Road:
Attorney to prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for
approval
10. Public Hearing: AZ 00-002 Request for annexation and zoning of 5.029
acres to L-O and R-8 by Centers Construction, Inc. - west side of
Locust Grove % mile north of Fairview: Continue public hearing to
317/00
11. Public Hearing: AZ 00-003 Request for annexation and zoning of 3.68
acres to R-4 for proposed Pintail Pointe Subdivision by Jeff Manship -
south side of Cherry Lane, east of Black Cat Road: Continue public
hearing to 3n/OO
12. Public Hearing: PP 00-001 Request for preliminary plat for 11 lots on
3.68 acres in proposed R-4 zone for proposed Pintail Pointe Subdivision
by Jeff Manship - south side of Cherry Lane, east of Black Cat Road:
Continue public hearing to 3n/OO
City Council Agenda - February 15, 2000
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13. Public Hearing: CUP 00-005 Request for Conditional Use Permit for
Papa John's Pizza in an L-Q zone - take-out, delivery and eating
establishment by Cole Associates Architects - 1580 4th Street, Suite 103:
Continue public hearing to 317/00
14. Public Hearing: CUP 00-004 Request for Conditional Use Permit for
commercial expansion of the Meridian Crossroads Shopping Center
(Walmart) by Developers Diversified Realty Corp., c/o the Dakota
Company, Inc. - southeast corner of Records Drive and Fairview Avenue:
Attorney to prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for
approval
15. Public Hearing: CUP 00-002 Request for Conditional Use Permit for
expansion of existing church facility in an R-4 zone by Meridian Friends
Church - 1021 West Pine Avenue: Attorney to prepare Findings of
Fact and Conclusions of Law for approval
16. Public Hearing: Adult entertainment ordinance relating to zoning
schedule: Attorney to prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of
Law for approval
17. Department Reports:
A. City Treasurer - Janice Smith
1. Treasurer's Report: Presented
B. City Engineer - Gary Smith
1. Meridian Transportation Task Force Committee - 1999 Report:
Hold
2. 'NWTP Trunk Sewer - Creason Lateral Crossing: Approve
Brown Construction
3. Application / Request for Latecomers Fee Agreement for
Russell Hunemiller: Approve
C. City Council President - Keith Bird
1. Invitation to join Senior Citizens for lunch for the month of
March: Discussed
2. Items needed for the Tuesday, February 29, 2000 City Council
Workshop: Discussed
city Council Agenda - February 15, 2000
Page 4
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3. Reminder of the ACHD Joint Workshop on Thursday, February
17, 2000: Discussed
4. FFAAppreciation Breakfast on Friday, February 18,2000 at
6:00 a.m: Discussed
City Council Agenda. February 15, 2000
Page 5
Meridian City Council
Agenda
Tuesday, February 15,2000 @ 7:30 P.M.
Roll Call:
City Council Chambers
X Ron Anderson ~ Cherie McCandless
-,c-Tammy deWeerd ~Keith Bird
K Mayor Robert Corrie
Consent Agenda
A.
Approve minutes of February 1, 2000, Special Pre-Council meeting: t1fPt'i>V~
Treasure Valley Economic Development $5,000 Commitment: ~ve.-
Approve minutes of February 1 , 2000, City Council meeting: a/pi) V'1l--
B.
c.
D.
1998/1999 FY Audit: ~ov~
Development Agreement: AZ 99-013 Request for annexation and
zoning of 1.9 acres to R-2 by Charles Crane - 3610 W. Ustick Road:
aprlJv.e.
Development Agreement: AZ 99-018 Request for annexation and
zoning of 7.25 acres to C-G by Overland Mini Storage, LLC:
~~1Jee ~r~' 3 -7-PO
Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: AZ 99-019 Request for
annexation and zoning of 4.34 acres to C-G (Walgreen's) by Hawkins
Smith Management, Inc. - NW corner of Fairview and Locust Grove: j#pf/e Iv r..e~~~
apph9V'€. tv/rlv jVttJdt17~~f tl~v..-
Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: CUP 99-034 Request for a
Conditional Use Permit to construct a single-tenant commercial building
with a drive-thru window (Walgreen's) by Hawkins Smith Management,
Inc. - NW corner of Fairview and Locust Grove:
#6Le.. ~ 3--7--00
Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and Conclusions of
Law: Vac 99-005 Request for vacation of the easement lying adjacent to
the lot line common to Lots 6 and 7, Block 3, Thunder Creek Subdivision
by Thunder Creek Partnership, LLC - south of Cherry Lane, east of Ten
Mile on Gray Cloud Way: tZpprp v -e...
E.
F.
G.
H.
I.
City Council Agenda - February 15, 2000
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4.
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6.
7.
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Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and Conclusions of
Law: AZ 99-022 Request for annexation and zoning of 10 acres to L-Q
for proposed Magic View Office Complex by W.H. Moore Company - 10 /IR-~~
Eagle Road and Magic View: .~ ~ ~ 3-7-00 cZ~
Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and Conclusions of
Law: CUP 99-040 Request for Conditional Use Permit to provide multiple
buildings on a single site and an ancillary restaurant in proposed L-Q zone .;;:z.
for proposed Magic View Office Complex by W.H. Moore Company -.fz; I~ea ~
Eagle Road and Magic View: I-tbtree ~ 3~ /-t1l/ d -
K.
L.
Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and Conclusions of
Law: CUP 99-033 Request for Conditional Use Permit for 81,000 s.f.
mini-storage on Lot 2 of proposed Overland Mini Storage Subdivision
by Overland Mini Storage, LLC - 1230 East Overland Road:
-hv~ tvrV/~.jl 3 -7' 0[)
Reaular Aaenda
1.
Ordinance No. : AZ 99-018 Request for annexation and
zoning of 7.25 acres to C-G by Overland Mini Storage, LLC:
~~ ~~7-00
Ordinance No. 8~8 : AZ 99-013 Request for annexation and
zoning of 1.9 acres to R-2 by Charles Crane - 3610 W. Ustick Road: apf1rov~
Tabled from February 1, 2000 meeting: FP 00-003 Request for final
plat of Gemtone No.4 Subdivision - 6 buildable lots on 7.84 acres in an
I-L zone by Thomas T. Wright located in the NE %, Section 8, T3N, R1 E
(west of Hickory Avenue between Pine and State):
tv I rAch~ afJ1lf!t Ce?Xi:t.'hJ
CUP 00-001 Request for Conditional Use Permit for proposed temporary
parking and product storage on adjacent lots zoned C-G by Gary Bodily -
Bodily RV - Meridian Road between Franklin Road and Gem Street:
~31o~P~ .rIff c/.e
Public Hearing: AZ 99-010 Request for annexation and zoning of
150.79 acres to R-4 by Bear Creek, LLC - east of Stoddard Road and
south of Overland:
ft6ee ~{ 3-7-ClO
Public Hearing: PP 99-010 Request for preliminary plat for proposed
Bear Creek Subdivision - 326 single-family lots on 150.79 acres by Bear
Creek, LLC - east of Stoddard Road and south of Overland:
-/7uke tVl4it 3-7-00
Public Hearing: AZ 99-021 Request for annexation and zoning of 8.25
acres to R-8 for proposed Woodhaven Subdivision by Dan Wood I D.W.,
Inc. - west of Eagle Road between Overland and east Victory:
PL~ -10 (h-€P4 -1'1 ~ I elL ,t;rL jL-{--
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City Council Agenda - February 15,2000
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11.
12.
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16.
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Public Hearing: RZ 00-001 Request for rezone of 1 ~761 acres from R-8
and R-15 to entirely R-15 by Lynd Hoover-1318 E. 4th:
a~ 1o~~F/~fc/tl fhwf1PrbV~
Public Hearing: AZ 00-001 Request for annexation and zoning of 7.99
acres to R-4 by Robert Glenn - Ustick Road west of Locust Grove Road:
a--T~,Lu ~t?~f/;C ~ e/~ ~ "PJTY?'v~
Public Hearing: AZ 00-002 Request for annexation and zoning of 5~029
acres to L-Q and R-8 by Centers Construction, Inc. - west side of
Locust Grove % mile north of Fairview:
~-nhUJC.., ,PIA. ~"I 3-7-00
Public Hearing: AZ 00-003 Request for annexation and zoning of 3~68
acres to R-4 for proposed Pintail Pointe Subdivision by Jeff Manship -
south side of Cherry Lane, east of Black Cat Road:
Cerrv~ fJ/ A- ~~ 1--7- 00
Public Hearing: PP 00-001 Request for preliminary plat for 11 lots on
3.68 acres in proposed R-4 zone for proposed Pintail Pointe Subdivision
by Jeff Manship - south side of Cherry Lane, east of Black Cat Road:
Ct;;iY'V-h.~ j:J / Iv ~ 7 'J-7- 00
Public Hearing: CUP 00-005 Request for Conditional Use Permit for
Papa John's Pizza in an L-Q zone - take-out, delivery and eating
establishment by Cole Associates Architects - 1580 4th Street, Suite 103:
elfh,nn~ fl/I~ ~l 3-7-o()
Public Hearing: CUP 00-004 Request for Conditional Use Permit for
commercial expansion of the Meridian Crossroads Shopping Center
(Walmart) by Developers Diversified Realty Corp~, c/o the Dakota
Company, Inc. - southeast corner of Records Drive and Fairview Avenue:
a-l~!I- III fhe-P~ /'11'( elf -/VL ti-fljJnJvd
Public Hearin~ CUP 00-002 Request for Conditional Use Permit for
expansion of existing church facility in an R-4 zone by Meridian Friends
Church - 1021 West Pine Avenue:
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Public Hearing: Adult entertainment ordinance relating to zoning
schedule: Plr~ 1-0 jhLp~ ~/~ -f elL
Department Reports:
A. City Treasurer - Janice Smith
1. Treasurer's Report ..- f7r-.- r~O<--
B. City Engineer - Gary Smith
1. Meridian Transportation Task Force Committee - 1999 Report:
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2. VWVTP Trunk Sewer - Creason Lateral Crossing:
dfflY"V~ &oWh- ~1r~d7~
City Council Agenda - February 15, 2000
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3. Application I Request for Latecomers Fee Agreement for
Russell HunemHier: ~v-c-
c. City Clerk - Will Berg
1. Agreement with Randy Ware for sewer I water hooku-p
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Meridian City Council
Agenda
Tuesday, February 15, 2000 @ 7:30 P.M.
City Council Chambers
Roll Call:
X Ron Anderson X
X Tammy deWeerd X
X Mayor Robert Corrie
Cherie McCandless
Keith Bird
Consent Aaenda
A. Approve minutes of February 1, 2000, Special Pre-Council meeting:
Approve
B. Treasure Valley Economic Development $5,000 Commitment: Approve
c. Approve minutes of February 1, 2000, City Council meeting: Approve
D. 1998/1999 FY Audit: Approve
E. Development Agreement: AZ 99-013 Request for annexation and
zoning of 1.9 acres to R-2 by Charles Crane - 3610 W. Ustick Road:
Approve
F. Development Agreement: AZ 99-018 Request for annexation and
zoning of 7.25 acres to C-G by Overland Mini Storage, LLC: Table until
3nl00
G. Moved to regular agenda
H. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: CUP 99-034 Request for a
Conditional Use Permit to construct a single-tenant commercial building
with a drive-thru window (Walgreen's) by Hawkins Smith Management,
Inc. - NW corner of Fairview and Locust Grove: Tabled to 3nl00
I. Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and Conclusions of
Law: Vac 99-005 Request for vacation of the easement lying adjacent to
the lot line common to Lots 6 and 7, Block 3, Thunder Creek Subdivision
by Thunder Creek Partnership, LLC - south of Cherry Lane, east of Ten
Mile on Gray Cloud Way: Approve
J. Moved to regular agenda
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K. Moved to regular agenda
L. Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and Conclusions of
Law: CUP 99-033 Request for Conditional Use Permit for 81,000 5.f.
mini-storage on Lot 2 of proposed Overland Mini Storage Subdivision
by Overland Mini Storage, LLC - 1230 East Overland Road: Tabled to
3n /00
M. Agreement with Randy Ware for sewer I water hookup:
Reaular Aaenda
G. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: AZ 99-019 Request for
annexation and zoning of 4.34 acres to C-G (Walgreen's) by Hawkins
Smith Management, Inc. - NW corner of Fairview and Locust Grove:
Move to regular agenda - approve with modifications
J. Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and Conclusions of
Law: AZ 99-022 Request for annexation and zoning of 10 acres to L-Q
for proposed Magic View Office Complex by W.H. Moore Company -
Eagle Road and Magic View: Move to regular agenda - tabled to 3nl00
K. Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and Conclusions of
Law: CUP 99-040 Request for Conditional Use Permit to provide multiple
buildings on a single site and an ancillary restaurant in proposed L-Q zone
for proposed Magic View Office Complex by W.H. Moore Company -
Eagle Road and Magic View: Move to regular agenda - tabled to 3nl00
1. Ordinance No. : AZ 99-018 Request for annexation and
zoning of 7.25 acres to C-G by Overland Mini Storage, LLC: Tabled to
3/7/00
2. Ordinance No. 858: AZ 99-013 Request for annexation and zoning of
1.9 acres to R-2 by Charles Crane - 3610 W. Ustick Road: Approve
3. Tabled from February 1, 2000 meeting: FP 00-003 Request for final
plat of Gemtone No.4 Subdivision - 6 buildable lots on 7.84 acres in an
I-L zone by Thomas T. Wright located in the NE %, Section 8, T3N, R1 E
(west of Hickory Avenue between Pine and State): Withdrew application
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4. CUP 00-001 Request for Conditional Use Permit for proposed temporary
parking and product storage on adjacent lots zoned C-G by Gary Bodily -
Bodily RV - Meridian Road between Franklin Road and Gem Street:
Attorney to prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for
approval
5. Public Hearing: AZ 99-010 Request for annexation and zoning of
150.79 acres to R-4 by Bear Creek, LLC - east of Stoddard Road and
south of Overland : Tabled to 3n 100
6. Public Hearing: PP 99-010 Request for preliminary plat for proposed
Bear Creek Subdivision - 326 single-family lots on 150.79 acres by Bear
Creek, LLC - east of Stoddard Road and south of Overland: Tabled to
3n 100
7. Public Hearing: AZ 99-021 Request for annexation and zoning of 8.25
acres to R-8 for proposed Woodhaven Subdivision by Dan Wood I D.W.,
Inc. - west of Eagle Road between Overland and east Victory: Attorney
to prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for approval to
R-4
8. Public Hearing: RZ 00-001 Request for rezone of 1.761 acres from R-8
and R-15 to entirely R-15 by Lynd Hoover - 1318 E. 4th: Attorney to
prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for approval
9. Public Hearing: AZ 00-001 Request for annexation and zoning of 7.99
acres to R-4 by Robert Glenn - Ustick Road west of Locust Grove Road:
Attorney to prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for
approval
10. Public Hearing: AZ 00-002 Request for annexation and zoning of 5.029
acres to L-Q and R-8 by Centers Construction, Inc. - west side of
Locust Grove % mile north of Fairview: Continue public hearing to
3n 100
11. Public Hearing: AZ 00-003 Request for annexation and zoning of 3.68
acres to R-4 for proposed Pintail Pointe Subdivision by Jeff Manship -
south side of Cherry Lane, east of Black Cat Road: Continue public
hearing to 3nl00
12. Public Hearing: PP 00-001 Request for preliminary plat for 11 lots on
3.68 acres in proposed R-4 zone for proposed Pintail Pointe Subdivision
by Jeff Manship - south side of Cherry Lane, east of Black Cat Road:
Continue public hearing to 3nl00
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13. Public Hearing: CUP 00-005 Request for Conditional Use Permit for
Papa John's Pizza in an L-Q zone - take-out, delivery and eating
establishment by Cole Associates Architects - 1580 4th Street, Suite 103:
Continue public hearing to 3nlOO
14. Public Hearing: CUP 00-004 Request for Conditional Use Permit for
commercial expansion of the Meridian Crossroads Shopping Center
(Walmart) by Developers Diversified Realty Corp., c/o the Dakota
Company, Inc. - southeast corner of Records Drive and Fairview Avenue:
Attorney to prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for
approval
15. Public Hearing: CUP 00-002 Request for Conditional Use Permit for
expansion of existing church facility in an R-4 zone by Meridian Friends
Church - 1021 West Pine Avenue: Attorney to prepare Findings of
Fact and Conclusions of Law for approval
16. Public Hearing: Adult entertainment ordinance relating to zoning
schedule: Attorney to prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of
Law for approval
17. Department Reports:
A. City Treasurer - Janice Smith
1. Treasurer's Report: Presented
B. City Engineer - Gary Smith
1. Meridian Transportation Task Force Committee - 1999 Report:
Hold
2. WWTP Trunk Sewer - Creason Lateral Crossing: Approve
Brown Construction
3. Application I Request for Latecomers Fee Agreement for
Russell Hunemiller: Approve
c. City Council President - Keith Bird
1. Invitation to join Senior Citizens for lunch for the month of
March: Discussed
2. Items needed for the Tuesday, February 29, 2000 City Council
Workshop: Discussed
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3. Reminder of the ACHD Joint Workshop on Thursday, February
17, 2000: Discussed
4. FFA Appreciation Breakfast on Friday, February 18,2000 at
6:00 a.m: Discussed
MERIDIAN CITY PRE-COUNCIL MEETING
FEBRUARY 15. 2000
The Pre-Council meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 6:30
p.m. on Tuesday, February 15, 2000, by Mayor Robert Corrie.
Members present: Robert Corrie, Cherie McCandless, Ron Anderson, Tammy
deWeerd, Keith Bird.
Others present: Shari Stiles, Gary Smith, Bill Nichols, Bill Gordon, Ken Bowers,
Will Berg.
Corrie: I'll open the Pre-Council meeting to go over the agenda, and if we have
time, we might put the department reports on early since we've got a long thing
tonight, and we'll see where we are by 10:30. I've seen times when we have just
five or six items on the agenda and we're here until one or two in the morning,
and twenty items we're gone at 10:30. Okay.
Item G.
Item H.
Item J.
Item K.
Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: AZ 99-019 Request
for annexation and zoning of 4.34 acres to C-G (Walgreen's) by
Hawkins Smith Management, Inc. - NW corner of Fairview and
Locust Grove:
Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: CUP 99-034 Request
for a Conditional Use Permit to construct a single-tenant
commercial building with a drive-thru window (Walgreen's) by
Hawkins Smith Management, Inc. - NW corner of Fairview and
Locust Grove:
Tabled from February 1 , 2000: Findings of Fact and
Conclusions of Law: AZ 99-022 Request for annexation and
zoning of 10 acres to L-O for proposed Magic View Office
Complex by W.H. Moore Company - Eagle Road and Magic View:
Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and Conclusions of
Law: CUP 99-040 Request for Conditional Use Permit to
provide multiple buildings on a single site and an ancillary
restaurant in proposed L-O zone for proposed Magic View
Office Complex by W.H. Moore Company - Eagle Road and
Magic View:
Corrie: I guess I'll start. I've got a couple of things on that G & H. We've got
some requests for annexation and zoning. That's that Walgreen's, and there's
some items there that I think I'm sure Mr. Anderson will challenge. So you might
have to think about pulling that one off and also J & K. We got some things back
from the Winston Moore that is in your packet today. So you may want to pull
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those off and address them right after - right off the front of the regular agenda
meeting. That's the only thing I have.
Item L.
Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and
Conclusions of Law: CUP 99-033 Request for Conditional Use
Permit for 81,000 s.f. mini-storage on Lot 2 of proposed Overland
Mini Storage Subdivision by Overland Mini Storage, LLC - 1230
East Overland Road:
Bird: Mr. Mayor. I've got a question on L. No. That's on your (inaudible). Did
we ever get the paperwork on L?
Corrie: That was just the agreement (inaudible) wasn't it? On L, wasn't that just
the agreement signed?
Berg: Yes, Mr. Mayor. We need to annex the property before we could deal with
the CUP. If you noticed, Item No. 1 is the ordinance for the mini-storage. We
adopted or approved the Development Agreement last meeting so we have the
ordinance to annex the property this meeting.
Corrie: So we'll have to do the annexation and then we'll have to go back in and
do the CUP, right?
Berg: Whatever the advice of the legal-
Corrie: Have we got the time? Can we do that right afterwards or do we have to
have it public? See, on Item L -
Nichols: Mayor Corrie, Council members, have we not already had the hearing -
we've concluded all the hearings on the issue so it's just a matter - yeah, you
need to do your annexation before you can grant your conditional use permit,
that's true.
Corrie: So we'd have to do L right after 1 , then.
Item B.
Treasure Valley Economic Development $5,000 Commitment:
Anderson: Mr. Mayor. I also had a question on our Treasure Valley Economic
Commitment. Our cover sheet on our agenda, and if I remember correctly from
our presentation, we were asked for $5,000 and when I read this, it says that
Meridian is being asked for $10,000 on Page 4 of the agreement. Okay.
Corrie: Chamber's already given their $5,000 and we'll give our $5,000.
Anderson: All right. Well, that answers my question.
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Bird: Good thought. Meridian Chamber has already donated theirs, haven't
they, Mayor?
Corrie: Yeah. They've done it.
Bird: So we're just actually giving up the $5,000?
Corrie: Right.
Item E.
Development Agreement: AZ 99-013 Request for annexation
and zoning of 1.9 acres to R-2 by Charles Crane - 3610 W. Ustick
Road:
Item F.
Development Agreement: AZ 99-018 Request for annexation
and zoning of 7.25 acres to C-G by Overland Mini Storage, LLC:
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor, on Items E and F, have those Development Agreements
been signed?
Corrie: On Item what?
deWeerd: Items E and F.
Corrie: Mr. Clerk.
Berg: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, yes, they have or else I wouldn't put
them on the agenda. I don't like tabling things, so I'm trying to keep them so
when they are signed they are on the agenda.
Item M.
Agreement with Randy Ware for sewer I water hookup:
Berg: And just discussing that same thing on the last item under my department
report, the agreement with Randy Ware on the water and sewer hook-up. That
was just a follow-up agreement when the Council approved him being able to
hook up to water and sewer. The agreement came in at the end of Friday
afternoon and he has it signed and it's ready to go also. He's here tonight since
he didn't know if he needed to be here until 11 :00 to be here to discuss that. I
would have probably put it on the Consent Agenda, but we already had that
agenda made up so I just put it at the very end.
Bird: Can we add it to the Consent Agenda?
Berg: I think you could if you want.
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Corrie: Put that as Item K?
deWeerd: No, it'd be M.
17. Department Reports:
B. City Engineer - Gary Smith
3. Application / Request for Latecomers Fee Agreement for
Russell Hunemiller:
Berg: Just another comment, Mr. Mayor and members of the Council, Gary had
a couple items that he also added at the very end, and one had to deal with the
application or request for latecomers fee agreement with Russell Hunemiller.
That was another one of those that we accept his request and we still have to
have the agreement drawn up and it comes back before the Council to approve
it, procedurally, and Gary could answer that. That's the reason we have a
revised agenda for a couple items at the very end.
Item F.
Development Agreement: AZ 99-018 Request for annexation
and zoning of 7.25 acres to C-G by Overland Mini Storage, LLC:
Item G.
Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: AZ 99-019 Request
for annexation and zoning of 4.34 acres to C-G (Walgreen's) by
Hawkins Smith Management, Inc. - NW corner of Fairview and
Locust Grove:
deWeerd: I had one other question, Mr. Mayor. Item G, the annexation and
zoning for Walgreen's, did that need a Development Agreement?
Corrie: Is Shari here tonight?
Berg: Mr. Mayor, Shari had a couple comments on one Development Agreement
and a couple Findings she'd like to address to you that she asked me about.
Corrie: Shari, why don't you step in there and get you the question.
Stiles: Mr. mayor and Council, the Development Agreement on F, I needed
some discussion on that. They had requested a change from the attorney to
change one of the conditions of approval to make it instead of eight buildings that
it was going to be 81,000 square feet. I wanted to clarify that with the easements
that are existing there and the landscape plan that was approved as part of the
conditional use permit, they're not going to be able to put any of the landscaping
where they showed it on the conditional use permit. So their square footage of
buildings is going to have to be reduced. The majority of their landscaping that
they proposed in their conditional use permit is right over the top of the sewer
line, and Gary won't let us do that. And their plat that they submitted didn't show
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any easements - show that easement, so that is going to affect their plan. I don't
have the copy of the Development Agreement here with me, but I just wanted to
clarify in that Agreement that they're only getting the 81,000 square feet provided
they meet all the other conditions of the conditional use permit.
deWeerd: So what happens if they already signed it?
Stiles: I guess we'll have to do an amendment, then. I guess you can approve it,
but we'll have to amend it.
(inaudible)
Bird: Mr. Mayor. Shari, with that many changes and stuff, I mean, you're
affecting the whole deal. I'm not too sure that I want to vote on that thing at all
tonight until that Development Agreement is ironed out and is in to the agreement
of everybody concerned. I mean, you're changing the plat and everything on the
deal. I don't know if - I mean, you can answer a question: Do they need to go
back through and re-do it because of that change on the plat?
Stiles: I believe the conditional use permit they do because it is going to have a
significant impact on their conditional use permit plan.
Bird: That's right. They should have known they had to have some easements
in there for sewer line, should have known where the sewer lines and stuff were.
I think we ought to completely, Mayor, if it's okay with you, I'd certainly take that
completely off the agenda if that's satisfactory to you.
Item L.
Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and
Conclusions of Law: CUP 99-033 Request for Conditional Use
Permit for 81,000 s.f. mini-storage on Lot 2 of proposed Overland
Mini Storage Subdivision by Overland Mini Storage, LLC - 1230
East Overland Road:
Item 1.
Ordinance No. : AZ 99-018 Request for annexation
and zoning of 7.25 acres to C-G by Overland Mini Storage, LLC:
Corrie: We can pull it to a date certain, and also Item 1 is an Ordinance there.
You better just pull that one along with it.
Bird: I just wonder with as much as they've changed if we can even proceed.
Corrie: I think you probably can, but you need to have a date certain from when
you're going to wok on it. Shari, do you have any timing there?
Stiles: The public hearing is closed. I mean, it's - everything's all done and I
don't have anywhere in my file that they had submitted a plan showing the
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existing easement. They showed the sewer line, but they didn't show the
easement that went with that sewer line. With as tight as it is in there now, we
may still be able to live with it, but I don't know.
Bird: I think talking to the counselor over here that we can pass it but they can't
build it because it's been approved that way. I mean, we can pass this thing, but
they can't build it. I think they need to basically start over, myself, and get the
right plat and everything for us.
Stiles: I don't know if Bruce received a copy of the revised plat that showed any
easements on it. They submitted for a final plat today, we told them that we
couldn't accept it because they weren't even annexed yet, and so that's why I
didn't even know until today what a problem it was.
Bird: The problem is we passed on what we saw and what Planning and Zoning
saw. Now it has completely changed. So the Development Agreement and
everything has to go back through the system again. I hate to say that, but I
don't know how else you're going to rectify it.
Corrie: Personally, I think you should pull it and go back to Planning and Zoning.
Bird: I agree with you, Mayor.
Corrie: These last few changes are -
Bird: They're major changes. We can't - they can't build - the plat we approved
they cannot build it.
Stiles: The plat they could - they could build out the plat, but they can't build the
landscaping that was shown in -
Bird: That was part of the plat.
Stiles: Well, it was a conditional use permit.
Bird: That's part of that. So that's part of the whole deal. They can't do it.
Stiles: They can't.
Bird: So basically that plan is gone.
Stiles: They would have to reduce the number of buildings and they're going to
have to provide additional landscape buffering.
Bird: I agree with the Mayor. I think it needs to go back to the Planning and
Zoning.
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Corrie: They're changing too much. They're not going to like it, but-
Anderson: Mr. Mayor. On Page 4 of the Development Agreement, doesn't the
conditions governing the development of the subject property, 6.1.1, doesn't that
cover us? That paragraph in there because it talks about construction
development use and maintenance of a mini-storage facility consisting of mini-
storage buildings of various sizes not to exceed 80,430 s.f. in total while such
buildings and one caretaker unit which development shall be pursuant to the
City's Planned Unit Development procedure and pursuant to the conditional use
permit process in which conditions shall be provided for but are herein not limited
to landscape, common-area requirements, the right-of-way dedication prior to
submitting for any building permits, signage restriction or bike lanes. Doesn't that
basically tell us that before they can get a building permit they would have to give
us the right-of-way, the easements for the sewage and comply with our
landscape requirements? I'm asking that question probably to legal counsel.
Nichols: Councilman Anderson, members of the Council, Mayor, I think you're
right. I think it covers it. I think it's really a practical issue, though. You have a
developer who wants to develop this property a particular way and now you can
see that it can't be done that way. Whether or not they choose to develop it as
an economic reality based upon the reduction in the number of storage units or
anything else, it affects the practical aspect of this development. I think what I'm
hearing from the Council and the Mayor is it may not be fair to this developer to
say, oh, yes, you're in, but by the way, because of these things here, you're
going to have to scale down your development is such a way that it may not be
practical for you to do it. I think that's the problem as I'm hearing it. It seems to
me that may be the problem. Not so much a legal issue as a practical one
(inaudible) fairness to the applicant and staff, too, in terms of what the
assumptions were going in on this deal.
Anderson: So I guess my question would go back to staff, then. Is he aware of
this and knows that this could cut down what he could build there?
Stiles: Steve just sent them a memo today because we got this final plat
application in, and I know that they're ready to come in with building permits at
any time. I'd hate to see them go completely back through the whole thing if we
can talk to them and make sure they understand and see if we're able to change
any of the wording of the Findings or - make them give us a revised plan, I do
know -
Corrie: That was my thought was to send it back to you. What did I say?
Planning and Zoning? I meant to the planners. But that way you could work with
them and get that put together with their satisfaction. If I was a developer, I'd be
- I don't know if I'd want to do (inaudible) prove it now and whether it would even
come into - the way I would like to have it in the first place. Should be able to
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work with you, I would think, and see if it's going to be feasible. It's going to
change their whole program.
Stiles: It is going to reduce the buildings.
Bird: Mr. Mayor. I think before any of the Findings of anything can be changed,
it's got to come back before the Council, so anything that would be - we couldn't
negotiate on any of that, Shari, I don't believe, which I know you wouldn't want to
anyway, but I'm like the Mayor. I think it needs - I wish there was a way we
could work it out, but I don't want the developer to get in there and get a big
surprise. Come in for building permits and find out, hey, you can't have a
building this size or you can't do it this way.
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor. Is it possible that we can just give this to staff, have them
talk to the applicant? We can table it for now and come back with the
appropriate response at our next meeting?
Corrie: We can do it. Does that sound plausible to you?
Stiles: That would be great and we could talk to legal counsel and make sure
we're proceeding as we should, but I'd hate to say start over right now.
Especially when they don't have - they're not here.
Bird: The same, we don't want any surprises to them, either, though. I don't
want them to come in and get a building permit, expect a building permit for x-
amount and they can't have it, you know.
Stiles: I don't want them to proceed - I don't think what Councilman Anderson
read, I think that had been slightly revised. It took out what they actually signed,
it took out the number of buildings and put 81 ,000 s.f. at their request which we
considered was okay because 81,000 s.f. was approved, but until we got that
final plat today and realized where all those easements were, they can't do it.
They can't do 81 ,000. If they think they're getting a guarantee through that
Development Agreement, that's what I'm afraid of. So that would be great if we -
Bird: So should we pull that until the 7th?
Corrie: Pull F, Land 1.
Berg: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, I was just wondering if we could move
it off of the agenda entirely until it's ready to come back to you because it's kind
of a package thing. We have Development Agreement, Ordinance and then the
CUP Findings all mentioned together, and we have the CUP Findings that have
been tabled for, well, since December. I try to put the Development Agreement
when it's signed and ready to go, but apparently it's - with new development, it's
not really probably not up to the approval of the applicant anyway. I just don't
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want to get too many things to be tabling and then we forget what we have it
there for.
Bird: You just want to pull it?
Anderson: You want to pull all of those together?
Berg: Just the Development Agreement and the Ordinance because those are
the things you have not acted on yet. Those are brand-new items that if they're
not ready to be presented to you, just pull them off and bring them back when
they're ready.
Corrie: But you can't use the conditional use permit. Can act on that.
Berg: No, but we've already tabled that. That was one of those motions for the
City Attorney to prepare Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law and that's
what they did and they brought it up at the next meeting and we've been tabling it
since.
Corrie: You have to table them until a date certain, though. Do you think that
March 7th is a -
Berg: Without Shari talking with the applicant, I don't know what March 7th would
bring. I'd hope it would get the Development Agreement straightened out and we
could go on, but maybe not.
Bird: Lately, how much is Shari going to be able - if they start changing the
Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law, then it's got to be re-sent before the
Council.
Berg: I'm not suggesting those be changed as much as if the Development
Agreement which is supposed to be attached with the annexation which is what
I'm told, how much that could be - I don't want to say rearranged or affected, but
if the conditional use has to go back through the hearing process because of
some other conditions.
Bird: But we passed it as one type of way. If it's changed too much, then it's not
that type.
Berg: That's correct.
Bird: You don't think we can have it by the 7th?
Corrie: Shari? (inaudible) more of a question to you.
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Stiles: I'll try to meet with them this week. If I can't, I'll get Steve or Brad to work
on it.
Corrie: Yeah, because you're going to be leaving the 22nd. Okay.
Bird: (inaudible)
Corrie: (inaudible) table it-
deWeerd: If we just pull it, you could still put it on the 7th if it's ready, correct? So
why don't we just pull it?
(inaudible)
Nichols: Councilwoman deWeerd, Council members, I think the issue, again, is
not necessarily what's the legal procedure, but what's practical. We have a
property owner that wants to develop their property right now, so they're
expecting to be able to come in right away and get those building permits and get
started. So my only other concern about pulling an item is what if we don't get it
on the next meeting? We don't get something done in time? We don't - it kind
of sits in limbo. I think if you set a date certain and you put it on there, then you
get it done ahead of time, say, we're not there.
deWeerd: Table it.
Bird: L and No.1. We can do that in order (inaudible).
Corrie: Shari, did we need a Development Agreement for the G?
Item G.
Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: AZ 99-019 Request
for annexation and zoning of 4.34 acres to C-G (Walgreen's) by
Hawkins Smith Management, Inc. - NW corner of Fairview and
Locust Grove:
Item H.
Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: CUP 99-034 Request
for a Conditional Use Permit to construct a single-tenant
commercial building with a drive-thru window (Walgreen's) by
Hawkins Smith Management, Inc. - NW corner of Fairview and
Locust Grove:
Stiles: Yes. That was - we did ask for a Development Agreement. They had
some restrictions on their signage, and they were limited to no more than one
drive-through on the entire site.
deWeerd: So G and H will have to be tabled, then, too?
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Corrie: You can approve the Findings.
deWeerd: But not for the CUP?
Stiles: G and H, also, we got some requests for changes from the applicants on
those today. On both of those, the annexation and zoning and conditional use
permit. So those would at least need to be pulled from the Consent Agenda.
Item J.
Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and
Conclusions of Law: AZ 99-022 Request for annexation and
zoning of 1 0 acres to L-O for proposed Magic View Office
Complex by W.H. Moore Company - Eagle Road and Magic View:
Item K.
Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and
Conclusions of Law: CUP 99-040 Request for Conditional Use
Permit to provide multiple buildings on a single site and an ancillary
restaurant in proposed L-O zone for proposed Magic View Office
Complex by W.H. Moore Company - Eagle Road and Magic View:
Corrie: (inaudible) and be the first item to come up. Same way with J and K. Got
stuff to do.
Bird: Okay. We're going to pull G and Hand J and K and Items 1 and 2, aren't
we?
Corrie: One. Not two.
Bird: Well, we're pulling J and K and G and H.
Corrie: Yeah. F, L and regular agenda 1 we'll table until the 7th. Okay.
Bird: Okay. Were we taking the G and H?
Corrie: G and Hand J and K are the first items in the regular agenda.
Bird: Okay.
Item D.
1998/1999 FY Audit:
deWeerd: So G and H will be 1 and J and K will be 1A and 1 B. Mr. Mayor, I
believe also Item 0, the 98-99 audit at our workshop we had asked for further
information on evaluating MUSS and - do we need to pull that off of the Consent
Agenda for any response because he's not on the regular agenda. I see -
Corrie: This is the audit - just okaying the audit. (inaudible)
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(inaudible discussion amongst Council members)
Anderson: Mr. Mayor, just a question of legal counsel on these Findings of Facts
and Conclusions of Law for G and H where evidently the applicant either
misunderstood what we were saying or something, I guess where does the
legality stand in that. I mean, just because he doesn't understand them, is that a
reason to change them?
Nichols: Councilman Anderson, Mayor, members of the Council, I think the
answer is your Findings are your Findings and if what is in those proposed
Findings are what you decided, they accurately reflect your decision, then that's
your decision unless you, as a Council, choose to change it. The position
statement from the applicant does at least clarify some things that I think may be
under the conditional use permit, but there were some things that we looked at
the minutes specifically as well as our own notes, and so if that's your decision,
you can just simply say that's our decision and we see no reason - I mean,
they're Findings, and that's what you voted on. So just because they don't have
the same recollection doesn't mean that you change them. It's just an
opportunity for the applicant to point out what they believe to be errors in the
record.
Anderson: Okay.
Corrie: So you do have a choice of saying G and H on the Consent Agenda is
what you want and that's it. (inaudible) If that is, indeed, the way you want it.
Berg: Mr. Mayor, Item H will have to be tabled no matter what because it's a
CUP Finding which goes with the same thing as a mini-storage. We have to wait
for a Development Agreement and Ordinance before you can approve the CUP
Findings. Like we're doing with the Overland Mini Storage, we're holding the
CUP Findings until it's actually passed.
Corrie: So if you approve G, you could go ahead and do H at the same time
because you're doing the annexation. Do we have to go (inaudible).
(inaudible discussion amongst Council members)
Corrie: It stays with their findings and then H will be pulled off until the 7th for the
Development Agreement; correct?
Bird: We're just going to keep G on? That's fine with me.
Nichols: Mayor and Council members, there is one item that I think maybe
needs to be changed that the applicant has correctly pointed out, and it has to do
with this section 3.6. So that would be appropriate to put that on the regular
agenda to change that particular item because I think that's (inaudible).
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Corrie: Okay. Any other questions or changes?
Item 7.
Public Hearing: AZ 99-021 Request for annexation and zoning of
8.25 acres to R-8 for proposed Woodhaven Subdivision by Dan
Wood I D.W., Inc. - west of Eagle Road between Overland and
east Victory:
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor, can we make a comment on the items under the regular
agenda? On Item No.7, it refers that they've had a change in their plat.
Corrie: It's a public hearing, so we (inaudible).
deWeerd: Then, I would just like to make a request. I would kind of like to have
the minutes from the Planning and Zoning Meeting in our application so I know
how we've come to the Planning and Zoning recommendations and what the
public testimony - the issues that the public has raised in prior testimony. I think
that really helps in preparing us to know how decisions were made and maybe
what might be expected unless that can be done in staff summary when staff
does their presentation, and they can say what happened at the P & Z meeting
and if neighbors were there and the issues they raised. I don't know. I feel like
I'm coming out of the blue and I don't see staff comments in these packets. I just
get the summary that the City Attorney draws up, but that doesn't tell me if there
were objections from the citizens or anything. I would like to see more complete
synopsis of what has transpired before we get it.
Anderson: Mr. Mayor. I guess I'll throw in my two cents' worth. I'd rather see
that in a staff summary or in Shari's report to us, too, is a little bit of background
history and what the testimony was, but rather than having the complete minutes,
because God knows we get enough paperwork to try to read prior to the Council
meetings that I'd rather just see that summarized for us in the staff report.
Bird: I'd have to agree.
Corrie: If some don't need it, some get it from staff, if you want a little more
thorough, pull the file.
deWeerd: I'd just like to have more information coming into this.
Bird: We used to get the minutes off of certain subjects attached to our packet,
but we haven't been lately.
17. Department Reports:
A. City Treasurer - Janice Smith
1. Treasurer's Report:
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Corrie: Janice, do you want to give your report before 7:30? We can save you
from having to stay here until late at night.
deWeerd: You have seven minutes.
Smith: Treasurer's report? Nothing to do with audit? Okay. Mayor and Council,
it's nice of you to let me go from the bottom to the top, here. You'll see in your
packets tonight the expenditures and revenue report was put in everybody's box.
Of course, you haven't had time to check any corrections that need to be made.
There may be a few. There was an investment summary, it's a little bit different
format. It looks like this. Councilman Anderson requested that we have them all
together. It's probably stapled with your investments. We'll do a combined
summary every month and staple them together so there's not one drifting out
from the investment pool, from the State Treasury's Pool. We will be - we have
drawn a million dollars out from Enterprise account to pay for some construction
projects that are going on out at the sewer plant, and that was in their budget if
you look in the water and sewer, use of the fund balance. Other than the
investments, I don't have the whole expenditure and revenue report in front of
me, but if you have any questions.
Bird: Are we going to move that item B into the investment fund? I think that's a
good idea.
Smith': Item B, that's a proposal we'll get together with our Investment
Committee.
Bird: (inaudible)
Smith: The Investment Committee is City Council President Keith Bird, Mayor,
City Clerk and myself. So we'll get that together as soon as possible. And I do
have - I see on tonight's agenda you also have the audit report. I'll pass out the
cost of the audit. On the cost of - as we get - there was a conversion this year,
and if we get more staff, if you get a financial director, that would cut the costs
because then he would do the closing entries, so that would reduce the cost of
the audit. Do you have any questions on this?
Bird: So which part of it would save if we had our own financial director?
Smith: When they come out in the first part of the year, if you see at the top, I
guess it was in December, I'd have to do a breakout of that, and our auditors
could tell you probably how much of it is closing costs. I could do a detailed
printout of how much was closing, but we could cut our costs on the audit if we
did our own closing entries. Right now we have lack of time. We get our budget
and we also get our audit coming right behind it.
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Corrie: Save that time going back (inaudible).
Bird: Mr. Mayor. Janice, I want to thank you and Reta for getting this together
and I want to thank Kevin and all his people for the fine job they did on the audit.
It was timely which we definitely want, and, again, I'd just like to thank you guys
in the Accounting Department for everything you've done and the job you've
done for us. I appreciate it.
Smith: Thank you. Do you have any other questions? Thank you, Mayor and
Council.
Corrie: Thank you. Okay. If that takes care of the Pre-Council, I would say that
we take a break and we come back here at 7:30 for about a two-minute break
and we start the meeting.
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ATTEST:
Meridian City Council
Agenda
Tuesday, February 15,2000 @ 7:30 P.M.
City Council Chambers
Roll Call:
X Ron Anderson X
X Tammy deWeerd X
X Mayor Robert Corrie
Cherie McCandless
Keith Bird
Consent Aaenda
A. Approve minutes of February 1 J 2000, Special Pre-Council meeting:
Approve
B. Treasure Valley Economic Development $5,000 Commitment: Approve
C. Approve minutes of February 1, 2000, City Council meeting: Approve
D. 1998/1999 FY Audit: Approve
E. Development Agreement: AZ 99-013 Request for annexation and
zoning of 1.9 acres to R-2 by Charles Crane - 3610 W. Ustick Road:
Approve
F. Development Agreement: AZ 99-018 Request for annexation and
zoning of 7.25 acres to C-G by Overland Mini Storage, LLC: Table until
3/7/00
G. Moved to regular agenda
H. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: CUP 99-034 Request for a
Conditional Use Permit to construct a single-tenant commercial building
with a drive-thru window (Walgreen's) by Hawkins Smith Management,
Inc. - NW corner of Fairview and Locust Grove: Tabled to 3/7/00
I. Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and Conclusions of
Law: Vac 99-005 Request for vacation of the easement lying adjacent to
the lot line common to Lots 6 and 7, Block 3, Thunder Creek Subdivision
by Thunder Creek Partnership, LLC - south of Cherry Lane, east of Ten
Mile on Gray Cloud Way: Approve
J. Moved to regular agenda
City Council Agenda - February 15, 2000
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K. Moved to regular agenda
L. Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and Conclusions of
Law: CUP 99-033 Request for Conditional Use Permit for 81,000 8.f.
mini-storage on Lot 2 of proposed Overland Mini Storage Subdivision
by Overland Mini Storage, LLC - 1230 East Overland Road: Tabled to
3nl00
M. Agreement with Randy Ware for sewer I water hookup:
Reaular Aaenda
G. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: AZ 99-019 Request for
annexation and zoning of 4.34 acres to C-G (Walgreen's) by Hawkins
Smith Management, Inc. - NW corner of Fairview and Locust Grove:
Move to regular agenda - approve with modifications
J. Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and Conclusions of
Law: AZ 99-022 Request for annexation and zoning of 10 acres to L-Q
for proposed Magic View Office Complex by W.H. Moore Comp~ny -
Eagle Road and Magic View: Move to regular agenda - tabled to 3nl00
K. Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and Conclusions of
Law: CUP 99-040 Request for Conditional Use Permit to provide multiple
buildings on a single site and an ancillary restaurant in proposed L-O zone
for proposed Magic View Office Complex by W.H. Moore Company -
Eagle Road and Magic View: Move to regular agenda - tabled to 3nl00
1. Ordinance No. : AZ 99-018 Request for annexation and
zoning of 7.25 acres to C-G by Overland Mini Storage, LLC: Tabled to
317/00
2. Ordinance No. 858: AZ 99-013 Request for annexation and zoning of
1.9 acres to R-2 by Charles Crane - 3610 W. Ustick Road: Approve
3. Tabled from February 1, 2000 meeting: FP 00-003 Request for final
plat of Gemtone No.4 Subdivision - 6 buildable lots on 7.84 acres in an
I-L zone by Thomas T. Wright located in the NE %, Section 8, T3N, R1 E
(west of Hickory Avenue between Pine and State): Withdrew application
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4. CUP 00-001 Request for Conditional Use Permit for proposed temporary
parking and product storage on adjacent lots zoned C-G by Gary Bodily -
Bodily RV - Meridian Road between Franklin Road and Gem Street:
Attorney to prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for
approval
5. Public Hearing: AZ 99-010 Request for annexation and zoning of
150.79 acres to R-4 by Bear Creek, LLC - east of Stoddard Road and
south of Overland: Tabled to 3nl00
6. Public Hearing: PP 99-010 Request for preliminary plat for proposed
Bear Creek Subdivision - 326 single-family lots on 150.79 acres by Bear
Creek, LLC - east of Stoddard Road and south of Overland: Tabled to
3nl00
7. Public Hearing: AZ 99-021 Request for annexation and zoning of 8.25
acres to R-8 for proposed Woodhaven Subdivision by Dan Wood I D.W.,
Inc. - west of Eagle Road between Overland and east Victory: Attorney
to prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for approval to
R-4
8. Public Hearing: RZ 00-001 Request for rezone of 1.761 acres from R-8
and R-15 to entirely R-15 by Lynd Hoover - 1318 E. 4th: Attorney to
prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for approval
9. Public Hearing: AZ 00-001 Request for annexation and zoning of 7.99
acres to R-4 by Robert Glenn - Ustick Road west of Locust Grove Road:
Attorney to prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for
approval
10. Public Hearing: AZ 00-002 Request for annexation and zoning of 5.029
acres to L-Q and R-8 by Centers Construction, Inc. - west side of
Locust Grove % mile north of Fairview: Continue public hearing to
3n 100
11. Public Hearing: AZ 00-003 Request for annexation and zoning of 3.68
acres to R-4 for proposed Pintail Pointe Subdivision by Jeff Manship -
south side of Cherry Lane, east of Black Cat Road: Continue public
hearing to 3nl00
12. Public Hearing: PP 00-001 Request for preliminary plat for 11 lots on
3.68 acres in proposed R-4 zone for proposed Pintail Pointe Subdivision
by Jeff Manship - south side of Cherry Lane, east of Black Cat Road:
Continue public hearing to 3nl00
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13. Public Hearing: CUP 00-005 Request for Conditional Use Permit for
Papa John's Pizza in an L-Q zone - take-out, delivery and eating
establishment by Cole Associates Architects - 1580 4th Street, Suite 103:
Continue public hearing to 3nl00
14. Public Hearing: CUP 00-004 Request for Conditional Use Permit for
commercial expansion of the Meridian Crossroads Shopping Center
(Walmart) by Developers Diversified Realty Corp., c/o the Dakota
Company, Inc. - southeast corner of Records Drive and Fairview Avenue:
Attorney to prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for
approval
15. Public Hearing: CUP 00-002 Request for Conditional Use Permit for
expansion of existing church facility in an R-4 zone by Meridian Friends
Church - 1021 West Pine Avenue: Attorney to prepare Findings of
Fact and Conclusions of Law for approval
16. Public Hearing: Adult entertainment ordinance relating to zoning
schedule: Attorney to prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of
Law for approval
17. Department Reports:
A. City Treasurer - Janice Smith
1. Treasurer's Report: Presented
B. City Engineer - Gary Smith
1. Meridian Transportation Task Force Committee - 1999 Report:
Hold
2. WWTP Trunk Sewer - Creason Lateral Crossing: Approve
Brown Construction
3. Application I Request for Latecomers Fee Agreement for
Russell Hunemiller: Approve
c. City Council President - Keith Bird
1. Invitation to join Senior Citizens for lunch for the month of
March: Discussed
2. Items needed for the Tuesday, February 29, 2000 City Council
Workshop: Discussed
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3. Reminder of the ACHD Joint Workshop on Thursday, February
17, 2000: Discussed
4. FF A Appreciation Breakfast on Friday, February 18, 2000 at
6:00 s.m: Discussed
MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL MEETING
FEBRUARY 15. 2000
The regularly scheduled Meridian City Council meeting was called to order at
7:35 p.m. by Mayor Robert D. Corrie.
Members present: Robert Corrie, Cherie McCandless, Ron Anderson, Tammy
deWeerd, Keith Bird.
Others present: Shari Stiles, Gary Smith, Bill Nichols, Bill Gordon, Ken Bowers,
Will Berg.
Corrie: All right. I'll open the Meridian City Council meeting for Tuesday,
February 15, 2000, at 7:35 p.m. Mr. Clerk, will you do the roll-call, please. All
right. Thank you. I want to welcome everybody here today. There are still some
seats up here if you want to come in and sit down. The Fire Marshal I think is
home, so he might not be too - well, we've got the Fire Chief here so we might
have to work on that one. I also want to welcome Troop 151 and Troop 176 here
tonight and hope you guys get a good education in how the city government
works. If you get confused a little bit, don't feel bad. We might be a little
confused ourselves sometimes. Again, welcome all of you here this evening,
and glad to see you here. The more people, the better it is for us.
Item A.
Item B.
Item C.
Item D.
Item E.
Item F.
Item G.
Item H.
Approve minutes of February 1, 2000, Special Pre-Council meeting:
Treasure Valley Economic Development $5,000 Commitment:
Approve minutes of February 1, 2000, City Council meeting:
1998/1999 FY Audit:
Development Agreement: AZ 99-013 Request for annexation
and zoning of 1.9 acres to R-2 by Charles Crane - 3610 W. Ustick
Road:
Development Agreement: AZ 99-018 Request for annexation
and zoning of 7.25 acres to C-G by Overland Mini Storage, LLC:
Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: AZ 99-019 Request
for annexation and zoning of 4.34 acres to C-G (Walgreen's) by
Hawkins Smith Management, Inc. - NW corner of Fairview and
Locust Grove:
Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: CUP 99-034 Request
for a Conditional Use Permit to construct a single-tenant
commercial building with a drive-thru window (Walgreen's) by
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Item I.
Item J.
Item K.
Item L.
Hawkins Smith Management, Inc. - NW corner of Fairview and
Locust Grove:
Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and
Conclusions of Law: V AC 99-005 Request for vacation of the
easement lying adjacent to the lot line common to Lots 6 and 7,
Block 3, Thunder Creek Subdivision by Thunder Creek
Partnership, LLC - south of Cherry Lane, east of Ten Mile on Gray
Cloud Way:
Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and
Conclusions of Law: AZ 99-022 Request for annexation and
zoning of 10 acres to L-Q for proposed Magic View Office
Complex by W.H. Moore Company - Eagle Road and Magic View:
Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and
Conclusions of Law: CUP 99-040 Request for Conditional Use
Permit to provide multiple buildings on a single site and an ancillary
restaurant in proposed L-O zone for proposed Magic View Office
Complex by W.H. Moore Company - Eagle Road and Magic View:
Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and
Conclusions of Law: CUP 99-033 Request for Conditional Use
Permit for 81 ,000 s.f. mini-storage on Lot 2 of proposed Overland
Mini Storage Subdivision by Overland Mini Storage, LLC - 1230
East Overland Road:
Corrie: Council, you have the Consent Agenda in front of you. What is your
pleasure on this one?
Bird: Mr. Mayor. I move that we approve the Consent Agenda with pulling Items
F, pulling Item G - no - Item H, not G. I'm sorry. Items J and K and L and also
Item No. 1 on the Regular Agenda to 3-7-00 and adding Item M which is the
Randy Ware agreement with water and sewer. I hope I got that right.
Corrie: Okay. Mr. Bird, I think you want - J and K you want to pull and put on
the regular agenda?
Bird: Okay. J and K comes to the regular agenda, the others go to 3-7-00.
Corrie: Okay. Items F, H and I and Item 1 on the regular agenda. Item G we'll
put also in the -
deWeerd: No. We'll keep that-
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Corrie: We'll keep it on the regular agenda, the first part of the regular agenda.
deWeerd: Consent.
Bird: No. He's keeping (inaudible).
Corrie: Oh. If you want to keep it on Consent -
Bird: No. We're pulling it to the regular Item 1A, and J and K is Item 1 B on the
regular.
Corrie: Okay. I believe G, Mr. Anderson had one correction with that, so we can
put that on the first part. Okay.
Bird: Yes, we did. That's 1A and the other one is 18, J and K.
Corrie: Okay. All right.
deWeerd: I second that.
Corrie: Okay. Motion has been made and seconded to approve the Consent
Agenda of Item A, B, C, 0 and E, I and an addition of M which was the
agreement which is on the revised edition on the agreement with Randy Ware for
the sewer and water hookup, and that Items F, L, and Item No. 1 of the regular
agenda be tabled until the March 7, 2000, meeting, and also H; Item G and J and
K will be the first Items of the discussion at the opening of the regular agenda.
Okay. Any other discussion on that? All right. Mr. Berg, if you'll give the roll-call
vote on that.
Roll-call vote: Anderson, aye; Bird, aye; deWeerd, aye; McCandless, aye.
Item G.
Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: AZ 99-019 Request
for annexation and zoning of 4.34 acres to C-G (Walgreen's) by
Hawkins Smith Management, Inc. - NW corner of Fairview and
Locust Grove:
Corrie: Okay. Thank you. With that, we'll open the regular agenda and tackle
G, the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law, request for annexation and
zoning of 4.34 acres to C-G, Walgreen's, by Hawkins Smith Management, Inc.,
northwest corner of Fairview and Locust Grove.
Bird: You want to take it, Ron?
Anderson: Sure. Mr. Mayor, maybe we could have staff explain the letter that
came in today and what the disagreement with the Findings of Fact were from
the applicant.
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Stiles: Thank you. Mr. Mayor and Council, on the annexation and zoning, the
applicant has requested two of the items to be revised. We would agree with the
second item on Section 3.6 to change it from "two smaller building pads" to
"multi-tenant retail building" and to leave the last sentence, revise that to read
"applicant shall be required to vacate these easements and apply for a lot-line
adjustment. "
Anderson: Did you say leave that sentence?
Stiles: They asked for it to be stricken entirely, but I think it would more
accurately reflect the record if it was as I read it "applicant shall be required to
vacate these easements and apply for a lot-line adjustment." On Item 3.12,
Page 17, they - I'm not sure what the record reflected. It would be unreasonable
to ask them to install the curb and sidewalk before construction begins. Typically
they would get that done as they are building the entire site. If that could be
reworded to "the applicant shall install all curbs and sidewalks before obtaining a
certificate of occupancy." That's alii had on the annexation and zoning Findings.
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor. I would like to attempt a motion. I would like to move to
approve the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for the request for
annexation and zoning of 4.34 acres to C-G by Hawkins Smith Management with
the noted changes on 3.12 that it reads "the applicant shall install curbs and
sidewalks before obtaining a certificate of occupancy," and also in Section 3.6 to
strike "two smaller building pads" and add "multi-tenant retail building," and that
the sentence that begins "applicant shall be required to vacate these easements"
to delete the rest of the sentence and add "and apply for a lot-line adjustment."
Bird: I'll second it.
deWeerd: And instruct the instruct the city attorney to draw up the Development
Agreement.
Bird: )'11 second that.
Corrie: Motion's been made and seconded. Any further discussion? Hearing
none, the motion as stated was in Section - On Item G, request for annexation
and zoning that in Section 3.12 that it states that the applicant shall install all
curbs and sidewalks before obtaining a condition of occupancy, and in Section
3.6, it's to read that - striking out "two smaller building pads" in the third line and
put in "multi-tenant retail buildings" with "the applicant shall be required to vacate
these easements and apply for a lot-line adjustment," ask the attorney to draw up
the new Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law with those corrections and
also the Development Agreement. Any further discussion? Hearing none, roll-
call vote.
Roll-call vote: Anderson, aye; deWeerd, aye; McCandless, aye; Bird, aye.
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MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Item J.
Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and
Conclusions of Law: AZ 99-022 Request for annexation and
zoning of 10 acres to L-O for proposed Magic View Office
Complex by W.H. Moore Company - Eagle Road and Magic View:
Tabled from February 1, 2000: Findings of Fact and Conclusions of
Law: CUP 99-040 Request for Conditional Use Permit to
provide multiple buildings on a single site and an ancillary
restaurant in proposed L-O zone for proposed Magic View
Office Complex by W.H. Moore Company - Eagle Road and
Magic View:
Corrie: Thank you. Now we're at Item J, and I think that was tabled from the 1 st
of February; Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law, AZ 99-022, request for
annexation and zoning of 10 acres to L-O for proposed Magic View Office
Complex by W.H. Moore Company, Eagle Road and Magic View. Staff, can you
give us some information on this, Shari?
Item K.
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, I haven't had time to review the applicant's
request for changes. I don't know if legal counsel has.
Nichols: Mayor, members of the Council, Ms. Stiles, I don't have any requested
changes in my file at all, so if they sent them to us, I didn't get them.
Corrie: I think they came in - Mr. Berg, didn't they come in this afternoon?
Bird: February 15th.
Corrie: They did. Will the Council like to have a couple of weeks to go through
this and to have the attorney look at it? Recommendations? Feel a little more
comfortable if the attorney at least had it. I think there's some minor changes,
but there is a couple of major ones here, too. It's about that road, St. Luke's.
Anderson: Mr. Mayor. I would make a motion that we table Items J and K due
to the late correspondence and the fact that our Council hasn't had a chance to
review them, and Council members have just received these today and haven't
had a chance to digest these, I move that be tabled until March 7th.
deWeerd: Second.
Corrie: Okay. Motion is made by Mr. Anderson, seconded by Mrs. deWeerd to
table J and K until the 7th of March of this year. Is there any further discussion?
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Bird: Mayor, I've got one question. When did they receive this so they could
reply? I see the City received it on February 11th, we passed this on January
18th. We passed it on January 18th. I wonder what the holdup was if it went out -
if the City received it on February 11th, evidently the applicant did at that same
time. That was Friday, so that would give him basically one day to return - I
don't like getting the things in - we had made a statement two or three months
ago that anything that came in Tuesday of the Council meeting, we weren't goin~
to look at. I go along with the motion, but I wonder why it was until February 11t
that this - this is when the City received it.
Nichols: Councilman Bird, Mayor, members of the Council, I believe this was the
February 1 st meeting that this was handled and not the 18th of January, according
to my notes.
Corrie: That's correct. It was February 1 st.
Bird: We passed it on February 1st? Uh-huh. We tabled it February 1st because
there was a holdup on the legality of who owned the property. This was passed
on January 18th by the City Council, Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law,
Decision of Order. Yeah. January 18th. First page. Mr. Mayor-
Corrie: I got it February 11th here is when we received it.
Bird: Mr. Clerk, would that have been when it went out to the applicant?
Berg: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, yes.
Bird: No more questions.
Corrie: Okay. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor of the
motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Corrie: Okay. That takes care of the Consent Agenda items.
Item 2.
Ordinance No. 858: AZ 99-013 Request for annexation and
zoning of 1.9 acres to R-2 by Charles Crane - 3610 W. Ustick
Road:
Corrie: All right. The second Item on the regular agenda is Ordinance for
request for annexation and zoning of 1.9 acres to R-2 by Charles Crane, 3610
West Ustick Road. Mr. Clerk, if you'll please read the Ordinance by Title only at
this point and then give us an Ordinance No.
Berg: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. It's Ordinance No. 858:
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ORDINANCE NO. 858: AN ORDINANCE FINDING THAT
CERTAIN LAND LIES CONTIGUOUS OR ADJACENT TO THE
CITY LIMITS OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, COUNTY OF ADA,
STATE OF IDAHO; AND FINDING THAT THE OWNER HAS
MADE A REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION IN WRITING TO THE
COUNCIL; AND THAT SAID LAND BE ANNEXED TO THE CITY
OF MERIDIAN AND ZONING DESIGNATED RURAL LOW-
DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R-2; AND DECLARING THAT
SAID LAND BY PROPER LEGAL DESCRIPTION AS DESCRIBED
BELOW BE A PART OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, COUNTY OF
ADA, STATE OF IDAHO; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES,
RESOLUTIONS, ORDERS OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT
HEREWITH; AND DIRECTING THE CITY ENGINEER TO ADD
SAID PROPERTY TO THE OFFICIAL MAPS OF THE CITY OF
MERIDIAN, IDAHO; AND DIRECTING THE CLERK OF THE CITY
OF MERIDIAN TO FILE A CERTIFIED COpy OF THE
ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE AREAS TO BE ANNEXED WITH
ADA COUNTY RECORDER, AUDITOR, TREASURER AND
ASSESSOR AND THE STATE TAX COMMISSION OF THE CITY
OF IDAHO PURSUANT TO IDAHO CODE SECTION 50-223 AND
SECTION 63-2215.
Corrie: Okay. We've heard the reading of the Ordinance No. 858 by Title only.
Is there anyone from the public that would like to have the Ordinance No. 858
read in its entirety? Okay. Hearing none, 1'1( entertain a motion of the Council on
Ordinance No. 858.
Bird: Mr. Mayor, I move that we pass Ordinance No. 858 with a suspension of
rules, and the attorney to draw up the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law
and Decision of Order.
Anderson: I'll second it.
Corrie: Okay. The motion's made to approve Ordinance No. 858 with
suspension of rules. Roll-call vote.
Roll-call vote: Anderson, aye; deWeerd, aye; McCandless, aye; Bird, aye
Corrie: Okay. Motion is carried.
Item 3.
Tabled from February 1, 2000 meeting: FP 00-003 Request for
final plat of Gemtone No.4 Subdivision - 6 buildable lots on 7.84
acres in an I-L zone by Thomas T. Wright located in the NE %,
Section 8, T3N, R1 E (west of Hickory Avenue between Pine and
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Corrie: Item No.3 is tabled from the February 1st meeting, FP 00-003, request
for final plat of Gemtone No.4 Subdivision, six buildable lots of 7.84 acres in an
I-L zone by Thomas T. Wright located in the NE %, Section 8, T3N, R1 E, west of
Hickory Avenue between Pine and State. Staff, report?
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, this was before you at the last City Council
meeting; however, since the applicant's representative was not available at that
meeting, he asked that it be continued to tonight. The parcel in question is
located - this would be the Blue Cross building on Eagle Road. The City has a
well lot here, has the trucking companies and the meat company, The Food
Services of America. The previous plat that was submitted, there was a final plat
submitted for No.4 that was acted by the Council in May of 1999, that would give
them until May of this year to record the plat. That will be their deadline for
recording this plat. They resubmitted - this was the previous plat. If you can
see, they have shown the dedication of right-of-way here, dedication of State
here, and also showed the dedication of Pine clear to the westerly boundary of
the property. The revised final plat that they submitted has deleted all of the Pine
Street dedication. If this was the applicant's desire, staff would recommend that
it be denied. The applicant's representative is here tonight to make a
presentation before you, but as we all know, it's very important that this Pine
Street be dedicated and extended as soon as practical, and we're afraid that if
this is not dedicated, it will cause further delays in the extension of Pine Street.
The applicant did indicate that they didn't want to dedicate that at this time
because none of these lots will have frontage, they will not be able to access
Pine. Ms. Bowcutt is here tonight, and she can make her presentation to
Council.
Corrie: Thank you, Shari. Is the applicant here?
Bowcutt: Becky Bowcutt, Briggs Engineering, 1800 West Overland in Boise. As
Shari indicated, in May of 1999, we submitted a final plat to you. It was
approved. It looked like this. This fourth phase that we have is bounded on all
sides by right-of-way. We've got to construct East State Avenue, extension of
Hickory Avenue here, and then it's bounded by Pine; however, it's restricted for
no vehicular access to Pine, and there's a half of a right-of-way on this section at
this point. We processed this through the Council. We did our construction
plans, got some construction estimates for our clients. They did not have a buyer
for this property, and the only reason that they were submitting this Phase 4 is to
get their preliminary plat approval valid. When we discussed the costs, they
decided that their preference would be to go this route and then build the rest of
Pine in Phase 5. I brought a copy of the preliminary plat. Sorry it's kind of dark.
This is the Phase that you see right now, Phase 4. Phase 5 comes down along
and connects this lot here, so there will be a Phase 5. I spoke with Mr. Tom
Wright today. I passed on Staff's concerns about the Pine Street extension, and
I said, you know, these are their concerns that they want to see Pine extended in
the near future. His statement to me was, well, you know, we're only running this
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plat through because we want to keep our preliminary plat approval alive, and he
said, secondly, we have no problem with building Pine and dedicating that right-
of-way, but we don't have any purchaser or buyer at this time; therefore, we
would be willing to do it prior to the issuance of building permit on any of those
lots. So, you know, I don't know what to tell Council. I guess if they have some
concerns over that, then I think our only choice is to probably come back and ask
for a time extension prior to May 4th of this year and try to wait until they can get
- find out who their users are going to be. Do you have any questions?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Mayor and Becky, we have never, since I've been on the Council, allowed
a plat like that where there was a road that didn't go through the complete deal. I
would - my opinion is to come back and get an extension on the preliminary. I
for one, to be truthful, am not going to vote for it unless Pine Street goes all the
way through at this plat right now.
Bowcutt: Yes, sir. I understand. This is an unusual situation where we have this
phase bounded on three sides by public rights-of-way. It's very strange. I've
never faced it before. I can understand your concern. Mr. Wright will
understand. So I guess, then, I would like this probably to go ahead and
withdraw this application, and then we'll submit for a time extension, come back
before you and give those guys a little more time if that's acceptable.
Corrie: Comments from Council?
Anderson: I would agree with Councilman Bird whole-heartedly. Pine is one
very important street for us to interconnectivity and to be able to develop a
thoroughfare through. That's something that we're going to look for, so I'd
appreciate if you'd do that. Thank you.
Bowcutt: Thank you.
Corrie: Okay. That being the case, then (inaudible) withdrawn from the Council
agenda.
Item 4.
CUP 00-001 Request for Conditional Use Permit for proposed
temporary parking and product storage on adjacent lots zoned C-G
by Gary Bodily - Bodily RV - Meridian Road between Franklin
Road and Gem Street:
Corrie: Item No.4 is a request for Conditional Use Permit for temporary parking
and product storage on adjacent lot zoned C-G by Gary Bodily, Bodily RV,
Meridian Road between Franklin Road and Gem Street. Staff, comments?
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Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, this is for a request for an expansion of the
existing Bodily RV facility located between East First and Meridian Road. They
have exceeded their expectations on their business. They're doing extremely
well. They are looking for a permanent site to locate in Meridian that will
accommodate their needs. In the meantime, their facility has expanded into
adjacent areas, so we did ask them to come in for a modification of their
Conditional Use Permit. The areas are not paved, they're not landscaped. You
have our staff comments. We did ask that if this were approved, they be required
to pave a minimum of 30 feet into their driveway approaches so that they weren't
having the migration of the gravel out onto the street and that it be fore a certain
time limit; that it not just be an indefinite period of time. Also, another condition
that we had included in our comments was this is not to be used for RV storage.
It seems that people bring in their RVs at the end of the season, and rather than
use storage facilities elsewhere, they just leave it over the winter and come pick it
up. It's very convenient for them. So we ask they not use it for that purpose.
But otherwise, for a set period, staff would recommend approval of the temporary
Conditional Use Permit.
Corrie: Thank you, Shari. Is the applicant here this evening?
Vance: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, my name is Michael Vance. My
address is 825 East State Street in Eagle. As Shari indicated, this is for a
temporary conditional use unlike most of the others that come in. Mr. Bodily is
asking that the adjacent lot to the south be used for parking of vehicles while
they're being worked on. There is certainly no indication from Mr. Bodily - there
will not be any permanent storage of any RV vehicles there. I think as Shari also
indicated, Mr. Bodily is also looking for another site in Meridian, and you will
probably see that probably within the next year for him to move off of this site that
he is using now. We certainly agree with all of the conditions of approval, and we
respectfully ask that you approve this conditional use. I'd be happy to answer
any questions.
Anderson: Mr. mayor. How many existing lots around there are you guys using
now? Are you using any of the others?
Vance: There is a lot to the north right there, originally was a paved lot that
Meridian Ford used his store for parking. That area where the arrow is being
used today, and the area to the south where the most part is being used -
probably half of it is being used today. That area to the north on the other side in
there, is being used today.
Anderson: Just a general comment, I guess. You guys are located on one of our
major entryways into the City, and one of the things that the City is trying to do is
clean that up and try to make that look decent. The property looks pretty good
from the back, and I see there are some improvements taking place on the back,
but I guess I would just ask that if any of those areas that you do use that the
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weeds be cleaned up and kept up, because those are pretty eyesore from the
back, especially from the street right now. No further questions.
Corrie: Any other questions? Council? All right. Thank you. All right. I'll
entertain a motion then for Item No. 4 for the temporary conditional for the
parking and storage request. We'll need the Findings of Facts and Conclusions
of Law and also the Order at the same time.
Bird: Mr. Mayor. I move that we approve the request for Conditional Use Permit
temporarily, for parking and product storage on adjacent lot zoned C-G by Gary
Bodily of Bodily RV, Meridian Road between Franklin Road and Gem Street and
for the counsel to draw up the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law and
Decision of Order.
Anderson: I second that.
Corrie: Motion is made and seconded to approve the temporary Conditional Use
Permit for Bodily RV and the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law and
Order be drawn up by the attorney. Roll-call vote.
Roll-call vote: Anderson, aye; deWeerd, aye; McCandless, aye; Bird, aye
Corrie: Thank you. Motion is approved.
Item 5.
Public Hearing: AZ 99-010 Request for annexation and zoning of
150.79 acres to R-4 by Bear Creek, LLC - east of Stoddard Road
and south of Overland:
Corrie: Item No. 5 is the public hearing, request for annexation and zoning of
150.79 acres to R-4 by Bear Creek, LLC, east of Stoddard Road and south of
Overland Road. At this time I'll open the public hearing on Item No.5 and have
staff comments first.
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, since the City Council had originally ordered
Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law on this annexation and zoning, the
applicants' legal counsel had proposed some changes that were not part of the
public record. It was the Council's order that this be opened back up for a public
hearing so that some of those items could be discussed and made part of the
public record. Gary Smith has also received some additional correspondence
that would need to be entered into the record and will also affect the layout of the
plat as it is currently proposed. Do you want me to address the next Item, too, or
just -
Corrie: Let's take it one at a time. We'll probably have to continue it anyway.
Gary, any comments at this point?
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Smith: Mr. Mayor, Council members, the information that Shari shared with you
a moment ago has to do with- a letter that I wrote to the Ada County Highway
District on January 21st, and I also sent a letter to Nampa Meridian Irrigation
District that same day asking for some clarifications on both traffic issues from
ACHD and the location of the Ruttlege Lateral as it is presently - excuse me, the
Kennedy Lateral as it is presently piped and the rural outlines of the boundary of
Bear Creek that is adjacent to the Elk Run Subdivision. I just received the
responses to those two letters today. One was faxed to me at a quarter after five
from the Ada County Highway District, and I believe Nampa Meridian hand-
delivered their response to my letter of inquiry to the City Clerk today. I have
copies of those responses to my letter along with a copy of the letter that I sent
that I would like to distribute to you this evening. Those are the only comments
that I have, Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Okay. This is a public hearing. We'll hear from the applicant first.
Spink: Thank you, Mayor Corrie, members of the Council. My name is Mike
Spink, 101 South Capital in Boise. I really have very little to offer tonight except
to note that the changes to the proposed Findings and Conclusions that were
submitted to the Council by my partner, JoAnne Butler, really just indicate three,
and two, primarily, areas of concern. The first has to do with the language
surrounding the discussion of the donation of the park site, and the type of
language that's used in Findings of Fact and in Conditions affects the tax
treatment from the Internal Revenue Service. I think it's in the best interest of
both departments and the developer in this case that we find compatible
language, and that the Findings are consistent with the intent of the applicant
which throughout this entire process has been to donate the property, not to have
the property be required as a park. I think there is sufficient guarantees in the
fact that the park is reflected on the preliminary plat that construction couldn't
commence without the park actually being provided. The second area that is
addressed involves the creation of a reimbursement agreement of some sort
dealing with the cost and capacity created by the developer in the Ten Mile
sewer above that necessary to accommodate this development. I know this is a
conceptual issue, but the Council is looking at it on a broader basis. We would
like the language in the Findings to be consistent with the treatment that the
Council expects to give to other applicants in the affected area. The language
that we have requested in which it's my understanding was circulated to you
attached to a memo from the city attorney simply suggests that the City and the
developer enter into a reimbursement agreement. The final point that's reflected
in the proposed language changes are that the owners of Lot 1 which are not the
developer be reimbursed for costs of construction through impact fees for
improvements made to the public park when it is built. We have representatives
of the developer here tonight to answer any questions you might have, any
additional questions. I would also note that although I had a brief discussion with
Mr. Nichols this afternoon with respect to the information that Gary Smith just
addressed, the applicant has not yet had an opportunity to see either Mr. Smith's
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letter to ACHD and Nampa Meridian, nor have we seen or had an opportunity to
comment on the responses. Thank you.
Corrie: Thank you. Any questions at this point?
Bird: I've got one. Excuse me, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Spink, would you restate your
third item there?
Spink: It would be better if I read it.
Bird: Okay. Read it.
Spink: It is the final change that's attached to the memorandum from the city
attorney, and I'll read more than I read before. It says: Such gift of the park is
not a requirement or condition for approval of the preliminary plat. The owners of
Lot 1 shall be reimbursed for costs of construction for such public park through
park impact fees. It's my understanding that what's being referenced there is the
cost of the irrigation system, the parking lot and the grass. I think that that's all
we're talking about.
Bird: Okay. Let me ask you a quick question. Now to follow-up with that, if that
isn't a requirement of the approval for the park site, why then do we even have to
put in the impact fees to approve it for improvement for the - if it is not a
requirement of the park? If that wasn't a requirement in your conditions, then
why is the reimbursement a requirement?
Spink: The - neither one of them is what I'd call a requirement. The semantics
that we're talking about with respect to whether the park is donated or required is
language that's used for no purpose other than to obtain the tax treatment that
any donator would require to donate this or other future parks based to the City.
Bird: That's true.
Spink: That doesn't mean that the developer isn't committed to providing the
park; in fact, it has always been a part of the application. So, the requirement of
- I guess I wouldn't even call it a requirement of impact fees, it would be part of
the agreement between the City and the developer for the development of the
park which would occur, I believe, consistent with the policy of the City regarding
impact fees.
Bird: Not being an attorney, I just don't understand how one isn't a requirement,
but the other part is a requirement. I mean, it isn't a requirement to give us the
park in the Findings, but yet, it is a requirement to be reimbursed for it. Maybe
I'm not understanding it right.
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Spink: You're not making it a condition of approval. It's just something you're
agreeing to do.
Bird: We're agreeing to do it which was part of the condition of approval is the
way our Findings were. Am I right? I'm not a lawyer, so I'm just asking
questions.
Spink: I think we may be just quibbling over semantics.
Bird: Okay. That's what I needed to know.
Anderson: Mr. Mayor, Mike, I sat here during the first presentation on this, and I
guess I'm seeing this as a complete reversal. My understanding originally was
you guys were going to donate the park space and you were going to pay for the
development, and I don't remember any discussion about reimbursement from
park impact fees and those types of things. This seems like a complete 180 now
to me. Was I off base originally? Wasn't that what the original proposal was?
Spink: If you were here at the original proposal, you'll know that I was not. So I'd
invite, if I might, Becky Bowcutt to address that.
Bowcutt: Becky Bowcutt, Briggs Engineering. When we did our presentation to
the Council, we discussed that this was going to be donated, the land was going
to be donated, and specified exactly what improvements we were willing to do. I
handed out a letter from Mr. Johnson, it was signed by him, it laid out what the
costs would be for that park site, and at every hearing we've gone through all the
past public testimony, we have always stated that we have wanted eligibility for
park impact fees. Those park impact fees related to our project. In that letter
that I gave the Council, I did a breakdown and showed that park impact fee
credit, and I discussed that quite thoroughly in all the meetings. From the very
beginning when I met with the parks director, he stated, well, you guys are going
to be the first. This is new ground for us. We talked that this would be a
donation, we would like some impact fee credits for it, it's been done by other
cities. I explained it to him and even provided him with documents that other
cities have used as far as agreements between the developers for what
improvements they intended to make and what the donation entailed. So I guess
to answer your question, Mr. Anderson, this is not a 180. We're just trying to get
the Findings clarified. The park is part of the first phase as we stated in the
hearings. The improvements are the same.
Anderson: I guess it was just an interpretation on the impact fee credits. I guess
I envisioned that we waive the park impact fees in lieu of you building the park,
but I guess I didn't understand that you were looking for park impact fees to pay
for development of the park.
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Bowcutt: I think it would have the same impact - I believe how the impact fees
work is they're paid by the developer when they pull a building permit - the
builder, excuse me, when the pull a building permit, and then those credits are
reimbursed, most cities do them quarterly or bi-annually, something like that. So
it would be the same. I guess - if you charge none other than it's done at the
building permit process.
Anderson: It's going back to the actual builders that build on the lots versus the
developer?
Bowcutt: Right. That's right. You're giving them credit where they didn't make
any of the donations or construct any of these improvements.
Corrie: So it would also be less expensive to have the developers doing some of
this and the City going along with it, same as the one done in Boise. The cost of
you putting that park in would be a lot less than having us go back and then
taking that raw land and putting the park in. (inaudible) would be cheaper.
Bowcutt: Yes, sir. That's correct. There's documentation by one of the little
league groups in the valley, they went ahead through donations and go enough
money to build their fields, and they said they did it for 50 cents on the dollar
compared to what Boise Parks Department could have done the same thing for.
It's always that way. I don't know why, but it is. That's their system, I guess.
Corrie: In defense, with Ron and I, he doesn't need my defense here, but I had
kind of the same interpretation that he did at the beginning, and I think it was
explained to me a little better of what we're trying to do here. Any other
comments?
Bird: Yes. I've got a question for Becky. Becky, at what point on these
reimbursements of the park fees - how do we determine the cost?
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What are we determining when we stop - you stop getting reimbursed for the
park fees and we start getting them? At what point or how are we going to
determine that cost? If you want them up-front -
Bowcutt: Well, you wouldn't get them up-front.
Bird: I mean as it's going. I'm sure there are going to be builders in there buying
permits faster than the park's going to get developed.
Bowcutt: Well, if we're putting in the - if we're making the improvements, it
would be developed before the builders start pulling permits.
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Corrie: That's correct.
Bowcutt: And we'd be bonding for the park improvements to make sure that
they're done according to plan. I think, in my discussions with Shari, she talked
about that in your Ordinance it talks about doing a special agreement with the
Parks Department for this very thing. You know, putting all this down, and I think
that's a great idea, and that's what we did with the City of Boise, and I provided
an example to Tom Kuntz probably six months ago for his review and stated, you
know, this work just slipped because it stated everything that was going to take
place. Everything went through the Parks Department, all plans and everything,
and it worked well. I'd recommend we do that. I think Shari had a good point
when she recommended that your Ordinance states a similar requirement. I
think with this - with these Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law, I think we
need to have the integrity of what we're trying to do and all the specifics that we
can put in that parks agreement. If you have any better solution, we're the first
ones, and this is - it's always tough. I was the first one in Boise, too, and it was
tough.
Bird: The only thing I want to make sure that you guys, you know, can get your
tax credit. We get a park and everything else. I think we need to have our legal
counsel's ears and ours work out the wording. Now what the legality of that is
with our Findings and stuff, how they're stated now and how we have to change
them, you just can't go in and negotiate Findings of Facts and Conclusions of
Law after they've been done publicly.
Bowcutt: Yes, sir.
Bird: I mean, we as the Council have to re-define and then we pass on it, and
that's the main thing - that's why I asked Mr. Spink those questions. You know,
we've got - I want you guys to get the tax credit to which you're entitled to. We
appreciate the park. We want you to develop it. You're entitled to the park fees,
but not throughout the whole development, up to a point. But we've got to do it
in a legal way so that something don't come back and bite us.
Bowcutt: I agree.
Anderson: Mr. Mayor. I guess when I think of parks, I think they're always under
construction. There's always something new that you want to add to a park
every year whether it's a shelter or whatever. So this is more of a question for
Tom, our Parks and Recreation Director, regarding - it says here that the park
site would go through a park master plan. So would we know everything that
we're going to put into this when we develop it, or are we going to develop it bare
bones initially so that the developer is then done with it and the City over the next
whatever years can add different elements to the park, or how would this work? I
guess I'm asking that question just for curiosity's sake.
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Kuntz: Mayor and Council member Anderson, my recommendation to you is that
this park go through a master planning process as all of our future parks will. I've
discussed that issue with Becky and, verbally, they agreed to that. What that
allows us to do will be to set sites or pads aside where restrooms will be going,
shelters, playground equipment, so forth and so on. That way we can stub
electricity, sewer, water, whatever's necessary to those sites, and that would be
part of Phase I of this park prior to any sprinklers or seeding being done; those
types of things. Council member Anderson, I would like to comment, though, on
your original question that you had because we have a letter dated December
20th, and I think the confusion is when we discussed this project with the
developer and with Becky, our understanding was that they were donating the
land and would donate the grass and the irrigation system in exchange for the
impact fees from this development only. So that's not what I'm hearing tonight.
What I'm hearing tonight is they want further relief from other impact fees, and I
think that needs to be clarified, because it's a really important point.
Anderson: From additional phases? Is that what you're talking about?
Kuntz: No. From other developments. Our original agreement was that we
would exchange their impact fees for their 336 houses in exchange for the park
and the grass and the sprinkling system. That was the original agreement.
Bowcutt: Mr. Kuntz is correct. That was the original agreement, and we are here
tonight to state that it is restricted to the confines of this project, Bear Creek only,
the 328 single-family residential lots. There was discussion about the park
serving beyond this - more of a regional or something. Further discussions with
Tom and Shari and everything, we got that all straightened out, and I got my
clients back what they're - what we originally were. So we were clear subject to
this project only. As far as the master plan, Tom and I did have a discussion on
that. He said, you know, we have some time to master plan that. I said, yeah. I
think it's the best thing. We don't want to install things, then you guys go back
two years from now and tear out. We want everything to be just the way it's
going to be as far as long-term and when it's developed 100 percent. You know,
when it's got the play equipment and the picnic gazebos and all that stuff. I think
it can be done, and we'll cooperate with Mr. Kuntz, we've said that from day one,
as much as we can to make sure that this is the way that he wants it.
Corrie: Okay. Any other questions?
Bird: I have none.
Anderson: Mr. Mayor, I have a question of Gary, I guess. There was an issue
about the sewage and what the costs per lot was going to be. Has that been
resolved?
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Smith: No, Councilman. That number has not been finalized, yet. The Black
Cat sewer trunk fee? No, sir. It has not been finalized yet.
Corrie: Do you recommend that that be done before this annexation takes
place?
Smith: Well, I think that the language in the Findings is approximately $1500. As
Brad Watson, I think Brad Watson related to everyone that it's got quite a range,
but his feeling is that it's going to be in that area. I just don't want it tied to $1500
per lot. I - the applicant needs to understand that that is a best guess at this
point and it's not a number, a final number.
Corrie: Okay. Let the record show that Mrs. Bowcutt was shaking her head yes.
All right. Since this is a public hearing, I'll invite the public to testimony at this
time. How many are here for this project? Okay. Is everybody wanting to
testify? We do - I would hope that you would keep it at about three minutes,
then, because it's going to be a long night. I'll invite the first one up that would
like to come up first. If you'll give us your name and address, please.
Sale: My name is Charlie Sale. I'm president of the Meridian Heights water and
sewer - I'd like to hear a few comments about - we are doing very well on our
own. I'd like to hear a few comments whether this is being built to accept
anything farther south.
Rauch: My name is Chuck Rauch. My address is 911 North Stonehenge Way
in Meridian. I've been to several of the Planning and Zoning meetings and a
couple of the other meetings regarding this project, and it was my understanding
the developer was going to donate the land and do some development at his
expense and not require the City in the ultimate taxpayers of Meridian to bear the
cost of that development, and now what I'm hearing today is he's asking for a
reimbursement which in essence is the City not receiving those funds, but they
are going to be reimbursing them back to the development, and believe that prior
recommendations from the developer was that they were going to provide this
park and the development at their cost.
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor. May I - Mr. Rauch, just our impact fee is put in place to
mitigate the impact of new developments, so by crediting them development
costs from the impact fees, it's not from the taxpayers' money. It's actually - they
can in the case of a development in Boise, the developer was able to do it at 50
percent of the cost of what the City was able to do it at, so, you know, I would
assume that the City would come out well ahead because if they were to develop
the land, it would cost twice as much. So they're asking for credit back from the
impact fee that their development would be getting which would have to be used
to service parks in that area anyway.
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Rauch: I understand those criteria, but the City requires would be - have zero
cost if the developer is doing that and then still pay the impact fees without
getting their reimbursable credit toward those fees. So the City would be paying
zero, and now they are paying in a reimbursement which would be monies that
they would receive for those impact fees. Now, instead of receiving those funds,
they're actually giving credits back. So, in essence, they are paying for it, they're
just paying the costs of the developers' fees versus paying the costs of someone
else trying to develop that park.
deWeerd: I don't - Councilwoman McCandless and I weren't here when City
Council passed this, but I did sit on Planning and Zoning and I think that was
pretty much the understanding at the P & Z level that they would be credited the
impact fees up to a reasonable cost of development, but I don't know. I guess
that was always understood.
Rauch: The understanding I have is that those were discussed, and the
agreement was that they would not ask for impact fees in the final meetings.
That was something that (inaudible) given up and would go ahead and develop
that park to a certain level, and then the City of Meridian would then take the park
over and maintain it based on the community development group association, if
you will, that would be responsible for maintaining the quality of that park, and so
the City of Meridian would still not be charged the cost of maintenance on that
facility, that that would be taken care of by the local housing or community
association, that it would be set up for that subdivision.
Corrie: Any questions? Okay. Thank you. Anyone else would like to issue
testimony? No one? Developer? I'm sorry. Hold on.
Montgomery: Yes, I'm Dennis Montgomery at 855 West Seasonal Creek Lane
across from the development. One of my primary concerns is not so much the
park, but it's the traffic situation that's going to arise because of all this
development. I understand that the developer is doing some improvements on
Stoddard Road which the subdivision does border; however, on Overland Road
where we have heavy traffic, as a matter of fact, all 7:30 to 7:40 in the morning,
traffic is backed up almost to Stoddard already, and that's without another 300-
something houses going in there. There's not the availability to handle anymore
traffic in that area, and as I understand it, there's not going to be anymore
improvements made in that area, either. I'd like to just voice the concern on that.
Thank you.
Corrie: Anyone else? Becky, anybody want to answer some questions?
Bowcutt: I'll be quick. Concerning the cost as far as the park dedication and the
improvements that we've outlined, the costs just for the land alone if you just
capped it at $20,000 an acre is $375,000. Then the improvements that we've
listed is, I think, around $400,000. I don't have that document in front of me, but
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if I recall correctly, we were close to $800,000. The maximum allowable credit
we could get was like $176,000 approximately, that's the approximate number.
So the investment by the developer to the community is far greater than what he
would be reimbursed. I was told that Tully Park cost almost $950,000 to develop.
So you know, this is very, very expensive. I feel that we can do it a lot more
efficiently with less cost, and we're glad to do it. We want our neighborhood to
benefit from this development. Impact fees by each individual house is to pay for
their proportionate share of the City providing parks. In this instance, the
developer's paying for their proportionate share. So we'd be double-dinged if we
got hit for the impact - the park impact fees for each home in this development.
Corrie: Do you have any comments on the traffic?
Bowcutt: My statement on the traffic is we did a traffic study. We went through
Ada County Highway District's rigorous review through their staff. We consulted
with them in draft form multiple times, and we went before the Highway District
Commissioners, and it was approved. It was determined that capacity exists in
their facilities to accommodate this development. I've talked to Mr. Sale on
multiple times about upgrading those intersections along Overland, Highway 69,
Locust Grove, he told me one of their priorities is that Highway 69 and Overland
intersection. I think the date he kicked out was like 2001, and then they're
thinking of doing Locust Grove 2002. But it seems like every time they quote a
year, then the next time you talk to them the year's changed.
Corrie: It's changed to 2004 now (inaudible).
Bowcutt: That's what I said. You never know. They're changing their priorities,
they told me every 90 days. Thank you.
Bird: Mr. Mayor. While we're on that subject of Highway District, I'd like to note
that the return letter by Terry Little to Gary says January 15, 2000. I think that
means February 15, 2000; right?
Smith: Yes.
Bird: Okay. I just wanted to get that in the record.
Corrie: I'm going to allow you to some testimony. Let it be known here now that
if we call for a public input on it, everybody wants to talk, talk. Because the last
person has to answer the question, that's the developer. So I'll do it this one
time. I think - were you here when I was calling it for testimony? All right.
Yerrington: My name's Kent Yerrington, I live at 8830 Morning Mist, Boise,
Idaho. I have a question on the four streets that will come out of this subdivision
and enter onto Stoddard Road. Ada County Highway District reports they're
supposed to have center turn lanes with 100-foot storage with shallow tapers for
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both approaching and departures. One of the streets, Silver Tip Way
intersections is 30 feet south of the Ridenbaugh Canal. So I was wondering how
they were going to get 100-foot taper and center turnlane over a bridge. Thank
you.
Corrie: Thank you. Do you want to answer that?
Bowcutt: Becky Bowcutt. There are three intersections on Stoddard. The Silver
Tip Way, he's talking about the one that is south of the Ridenbaugh. The
volumes do not warrant a center turn lane on that one. The two in the mid-section
are required for center turnlane, and then we have to install a center turn lane at
the intersection of Overland and Stoddard. I don't know if Shari's got a copy of
the - right there. As you can see, the two main entrances require center
turn lanes. If he's talking about that one south of the Ridenbaugh, that one right
there, that one doesn't warrant a center turnlane because there's only a handful
of homes on that.
Corrie: Okay. Council, with request of - we've got some other materials that
we've just received. Discussion? Let me ask a question for the City Attorney.
Where do we stand as far as working out an agreement with the attorneys of the
City and also the developer and this gift program and being able to make sure all
these things come to pass before the annexation? Do we need to look at that? I
know we do, but do we need to continue the public hearing for that?
Nichols: I don't know that we need to continue the public hearing because it's
not necessarily new information. It's just a matter of figuring out a way to get it
done. We think we can.
Corrie: Do (inaudible) new things that came in from the City Engineer, is that any
new information at all?
Nichols: I believe it should be treated as new information, but I don't know that -
basically what you can do is if we can figure out, which we believe we can, the
information with regard to the language that fits the intent to gift and protects the
City so that we'll receive the gift, then the issue becomes do these change your
initial decision with regard to why your Findings are.
Bird: Mr. Mayor. Mr. Nichols, if we change the wording and stuff in the Findings,
then do we have to come back and get new Findings?
Nichols: Councilman Bird, Mayor, members of the Council, I'm not certain at this
point that you will need to change the Findings. If it turns out that you need to
change the Findings, we will make recommendations to you with regard to what
those changes would be, and then you can adopt new Findings after the close of
the record.
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Corrie: Any more discussion? (inaudible) any more questions? Okay. Then I'll
entertain a motion to close the public hearing, then.
Bird: I move that we close the public hearing.
Anderson: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to close the public hearing at this point. All
those in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Corrie: Public hearing is closed. Further discussion and comments? Hearing no
other comments, I'll entertain a motion.
Bird: Mr. Mayor. I move that we table the request for annexation and zoning of
150.79 acres to R-4 by Bear Creek, LLC, east of Stoddard Road and south of
Overland to March 7, 2000, and let the attorneys from both sides get together
and work out the wording and bring it back to us and see if we can't work out a
deal that'll be satisfactory for both entities.
deWeerd: Second.
Corrie: Motion made by Mr. Bird and seconded by Mrs. deWeerd to table Item
No.5, request for annexation and zoning and have the attorneys work the
verbiage out and table it to March 7, 2000, meeting. Further discussion? Okay.
Hearing none, we'll have a roll-call vote.
Roll-call vote: Anderson, aye; Bird, aye; deWeerd, aye; McCandless, aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Corrie: Okay. The motion is approved and Item NO.5 is tabled until 3/7/2000.
Item 6.
Public Hearing: PP 99-010 Request for preliminary plat for
proposed Bear Creek Subdivision - 326 single-family lots on 150.79
acres by Bear Creek, LLC - east of Stoddard Road and south of
Overland:
Corrie: At this time, I will open the public hearing again for Item No.6 which is a
request for preliminary plat for proposed Bear Creek Subdivision, 326 single-
family units on 150.79 acres by Bear Creek, LLC, east of Stoddard Road and
south of Overland. At this time, I will open the public hearing and invite staff
comments first. Ms. Stiles.
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Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, in addition to the comments that were previously
received by the Council, in light of the letter we received from Nampa Meridian
Irrigation District, I would like to ask that you make as further conditions that the
unencroachable area of the Kennedy Lateral be a common lot and not included
in the lots. Their letter indicated that they need 25 to 30 feet from the centerline
of that lateral in order - because of the depth of the pipe to allow for repairs to be
made, and also they haven't - they've shown the Harden Drain going through
existing lots. I would like the applicant to address where that is going to be
relocated because there is an existing easement on that that is now going
through lots shown on the plat. Also that the plat -one of the conditions of the
plat is that the fencing along the Ridenbaugh be no closer than five feet from the
top of berm to allow for maintenance. Top of bank. Yeah. I don't know if Tom
has any additional comments to add. He did write a letter previously regarding
the plat and the park, but he may have some items.
Kuntz: The only additional item, and we've talked to the developer, is a
continuous wrought-iron fence that will border the homeowners and the park with
no gated entrances from private homeowners~
Stiles: That's alii had.
Corrie: Okay. Since this is a public hearing, we'll open it up for the developer's
comments.
Bowcutt: Becky Bowcutt, Briggs Engineering, 1800 West Overland in Boise.
That Kennedy Lateral is piped right in this area here. I did a lot additional depth
for those lots to accommodate the easement for the Kennedy Lateral. If staff
feels that it should be in a separate lot, we've done that in other projects. I think
we can probably accommodate that. I don't believe it's in a separate lot here for
Elk Run. There's an easement across those lots, a substantial easement,
because it's the - the pipe's on their side, not on our side. As far as the Harden
Drain, the Harden Drain traverses like this through the property. We - I don't
know if you can see it, it's so tiny~ We'd bring it out here, we've allocated some
common lots and we had a route in which to take it through there and pipe it
along this perimeter. So keeping it right on the edge of the park and outside rear
yards. If I had the bigger one, I could show you. Will's got it. So we will end up
dealing with Nampa Meridian on their - they would relinquish their right to their
existing easement in lieu of us granting their new easement and them approving
the relocation and the piping, et cetera. Tom's comment on the fencing around
the park, we have had discussions on fencing. We all agree that we do not want
site-obscuring fencing because we find that when we put six-foot cedar border
around a city park, it increases the chance of vandalism substantially. Mr.
Johnson indicated that he did not want chain-link because it just doesn't have a
nice look, that he was looking either at wrought-iron or vinyl, and I thought we
were going to kind of work with Tom in figuring out what's the best type of
fencing, you know, for the park. We did agree no gates because we've provided
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pedestrian pathways on all sides of the park within probably 350 to 400 feet from
all lots, that's the furthest point. So they have ample access through those
designated entrances, and we don't want to encourage back gates.
Corrie: Council, any questions?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: All right. Thank you, Becky. This is a public hearing. I'll entertain public
invited to testify here. Mr. Hepper.
Hepper: Mr. Mayor, Councilmen, my name is Tim Hepper, I'm at 448 West
Victory. We've got a piece of property that's about eight acres just to the east of
that property there, and you know, it's right there - right where that point is right
there. A couple concerns is I don't see any street stubs from that subdivision to
any of that property going to the east. I'm wondering if there's any future growth
considerations there for maybe some of that other property being developed in
the future and how they would interconnect the roads and stuff. Usually most
subdivisions have some sort of street stubs, particularly the long, skinny piece of
property there is not hardly wide enough to run a street in there in the future if
they ever decided to, and especially to have two access points to it. Same way
with mine, you know. If I did ever develop it, which I don't have any immediate
plans, I probably have access on Victory Road, but there should be another
street stub or another access into that property. The other question would be on
the street stub is possibly hook up to City services, sewer, water. If the sewer
would ever be stubbed into the edge of that property where it could be later
attached to, I'm not sure exactly what the agreement was with the City on the
sewer on the property, if there's any allowance for future hookups onto that
property later on. The flow in the ground, the natural flow of the water, my
property, the eight acres there, flows to the west. The height of the hill, the peak
of the hill, is on the east side of my property, so the natural drain would be to that
direction for sewer and water. I guess that's my main concern. Oh. The other
concern would be the minimum house size on the lots. Most of the
developments south of the freeway have already have a 1500 square-foot
minimum. I don't think that - I think the City is 1400, isn't it, for R-4? Yeah. But
a lot of the subdivisions off the freeway have gone to 1500. Now there are some
pretty nice subdivisions out south of the freeway there, and I'd like to see that
also.
Corrie: Anyone else? This side of the room? Anybody? Okay. This side?
Okay. Answers? Got any answers to some of those questions that - that'd be
you, I guess.
Bowcutt: I was out of comments for once. We have provided some stub streets
there. There's a stub street here from Elk Run, another stub street here. We've
made those two connections. This property - there's a stub street here, and this
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is the church - I believe this is the church property and this is a separate parcel
here, has a single-family dwelling. Then the Highway District asked us to put
another stub street somewhere in this location here. Maybe further down. This
has one single-family dwelling that sits back here. So I guess that gentleman,
this is his parcel here? No? That's yours. His is there. Well, that - it's pretty
close. It's in this vicinity. I'd have to look at my larger one to determine what
location that's at.
Stiles: It's about here, Becky.
Bowcutt: I can't tell from the -- is it right there, Shari? It's right where she's got
that little arrow. There's a stub street right there.
Unidentified audience member: That would be (inaudible) Meridian Road (inaudible).
Bowcutt: That would be for interconnection to underdeveloped properties on our
eastern boundary. They try to connect them so you can go from one
neighborhood to the other. If they were ever to redevelop. Now, if that location
is inappropriate, I'd recommend they get with us and we can go down to the
Highway District and change it. They're not real particular on exact - the exact
location, but they want to make sure that we provide for that connection. So if
there's any, you know-
Unidentified audience member: Basically that (inaudible)
Bowcutt: I can give you my business card and you can come in or we can meet
out at the site and try to go over that and then go down the Highway District.
That's what I'd recommend.
Corrie: Any comment on the house sizes, 1500 square feet?
Bowcutt: Above 1500, I believe. Greg?
Johnson: (inaudible)
Bowcutt: Right. We've got three different product lines. I think in that R-4, that
1500 square feet is the minimum, so everything would be at and above. I think
we're looking at there could be 145 to - Greg can probably answer that better
than I can, all the way up to 300-something, I think.
Johnson: I'm Greg Johnson. I live at 2433 CanAda Road. We've developed
three different product types. The A-type lots are approximately 110- to 120-foot
in frontage. Their depths vary from 120- to 150-foot frontages. It's a 15 - a 10-
ar 12,000 foot lot to as big as some of them are 22, 23,000 square feet. We
thought that a Meridian Greens type of home is a comparable to what's there is
the market we're trying to hit with that. We're doing boulevard-type landscaping
in that portion of the subdivision along side of the streets. Planting of trees and
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in that portion of the subdivision along side of the streets. Planting of trees and
that that will be done at the time that we put in the curbs and gutters and
sidewalks. Those homes, we picture them being 2400 square feet and larger.
The B-type lots will range from 90-foot frontages to 110, and approximately 110-
to 120-foot in depth - be very comparable to the later phases of Sportsman
Pointe Subdivision, Sherbrooke Subdivision, that type of thing. $150 to $220,000
homes, minimum square footage in that type of product would be 1600 square
feet. The average will probably be somewhere around 1800 to 2000 square feet
for the bulk of them. The C-type lots are the basic R-4 lot, 80 x 100 minimum -
that's located basically in the northern portion backing up to the commercial - I
don't know if it's zoned commercial at this point, but it has been requested to
become commercial along Overland, and that product we'd like to put 1400
square foot homes if that's available in an R-4 zoning. I'd say the bulk of them
would be between 1400 and 1700 square feet and be more of a first-time move
up type buyer in the $115,000 to $150,000 range. I think count-wise - can you
remember, Becky, what the counts - where we came up with the mix? I can't. It
gives a good product mix, and we're trying to phase it so that we bring on all of
those different products and have them available to the public to help increase
our absorption and so that we're not bringing all one type of product on all at
once. The park - the B-Iots surround the park and go to the south and that
deeper portion backing up to the existing portion. The C-Iots are to the north of
that, and then the A-lots run from about the - I think it's the second street south
of the park all the way up the hill.
Corrie: Thank you. Any other questions from Council?
Was Becky going to explain about the utilities (inaudible) I think Mr.
Hepper asked that question.
Corrie: Okay. Becky.
Bowcutt: As far as the sewer and water stubs, typically we provide those in the
stub streets. It's obviously subject to your Public Works Department as far as
what that sewer can service and the depth of that sewer. So we'd have to
coordinate with the Public Works Department.
Corrie: It's Gary's saying it meets approval there. Okay. Any other questions,
Council? Okay. Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion to close the public hearing.
Anderson: So moved.
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to close the public hearing on Item NOa 6a
Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor of the motion say aye.
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MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Corrie: Council, discussion? Then if there is no further discussion, I'll entertain a
motion on the request for preliminary plat for Bear Creek Subdivision, 326 single-
family units.
Bird: Mr. Mayor, I move that we table the preliminary plat for proposed Bear
Creek Subdivision for 326 single-family lots on 150.79 acres by Bear Creek, LLC,
until March 7th, 2000.
Anderson: Second.
Corrie: Okay _ Motion is made and seconded to table the request for preliminary
plat until 3/7/2000. Any further discussion? It will not be a public hearing, by the
way, on that. Hearing none, all those in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Item 7.
Public Hearing: AZ 99-021 Request for annexation and zoning of
8.25 acres to R-8 for proposed Woodhaven Subdivision by Dan
Wood I D.W., Inc. - west of Eagle Road between Overland and
east Victory:
Corrie: Okay. Item No.7 is a public hearing, this is a request for annexation and
zoning of 8.25 acres to R-8 for proposed Woodhaven Subdivision by Dan Wood I
D.W., Inc., west of Eagle Road between Overland and East Victory. Okay. I'll
open the public hearing at this time and invite staff first comments on Item No.7.
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, this is for the property that's immediately south of
what is known as Thousand Springs Village. This is the property that was owned
by Gordon Harris and has been developed by Marty Goldsmith. It's part of this
entire development. The applicant has requested a zoning of R-8. It is shown in
our Comprehensive Plan as a mixed residential area. In an attempt to provide a
little different housing, a diversity in housing which is what our Comprehensive
Plan encourages, he had come in with a planned development to have some
smaller lots and some town homes in that area. The Planning and Zoning
Commission did not like the layout, and they thought it was too dense. His
proposal was too dense, and so the applicant has submitted a new plat that will
be considered by the Planning and Zoning Commission. The reason you're
seeing the annexation and zoning without a plat is because they did recommend
the R-8 zoning. They didn't have a problem with the R-8 zoning. But,
unfortunately, since they did make the recommendation, that's why this is
proceeding onto you without a development proposal. So, as I said, this is only
for annexation and zoning for your consideration as to the appropriateness of
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giving it a designation of R-8 and annexing it into the City, but as I said, you won't
see the proposal until next month sometime, possibly two months. That's all I
had.
Corrie: Anyone else from staff? Comments? Okay. Since this is a public
hearing and it's been opened, (inaudible).
Taylor: Good evening, Mayor, members of the Council. I'm Nancy Taylor with
J-U-B Engineers, 250 South Beechwood. This evening, I'm here to request
annexation and zoning for this 8.25-acre site which is, as you can see, south of
the interchange of Eagle, north of Victory, and we are requesting an R-8 zoning
for this site because we think it's appropriate in this area that's been designated
mixed residential in your Comprehensive Plan. It's surrounded by R-4, there's
some R-1 to the south in the County. We're aware of that. We are also aware
that this was a mixed residential, specifically called out in a - in the
Comprehensive Plan; in fact, it's one of those - of three or four areas in the City
that calls out for mixed residential. So when we saw this, we consulted with the
staff to see how best to accommodate this Comp Plan designation, which, by the
way, is not really defined. And so -
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density of 30 units instead of the original 45, but I believe that the mixed
residential is really in keeping with the Comprehensive Plan here because this
sits on Eagle Road and 1-84. These are major principle arterials, major arterials.
I'm sure this area was intended for exactly what it says at the interchange of 1-84
and Eagle Road for mixed/planned use development, and slightly to the south for
an area of mixed residential. It is interesting that we see that same land-use
alignment at Ten Mile. So I am sure when the Comprehensive Plan was written,
there was awareness that those were going to be major corridors. With that in
mind, we did propose something different than the R-4 on this 8.25 acres. The
overall - I don't really want to discuss the preliminary plat at this point, but I do
want to add that the lots are from 6500 to over 10,000 square feet. We're
proposing a density of about 3.65 units per acre. This all meets the R-8 zone.
We also believe that these smaller lots, there are larger lots to the south, about
one to two acres, and to the north there's R-4, little larger lots, but these are not
incompatible, and, in fact, I think staff has even mentioned that that the
Comprehensive Plan calls for a variety of housing types and for all income
groups. I suggest to you that this is a great, small area for a little smaller lots
mixed in with larger lots, and it meets the intent of the Comprehensive Plan. I
think that I will conclude my presentation. I'll be happy to answer any questions.
Mr. Wood is here tonight, the developer, and can also answer any questions if
you have any. Thank you.
Corrie: Questions from Council?
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deWeerd: Mr. Mayor. I just have a comment. Being a student of the P & Z
Commission, I - my personal preference is to look at zoning and annexation
when we look at the conditional use and preliminary plat. So it would be my
personal preference and position that we look at this when we see the CUP and
preliminary plat. So - I just thought I would let everyone know my statement right
now.
Corrie: I have a question. You say that you'd have approximately three-point-
something homes to the acre?
Taylor: Yes.
Corrie: And you're going for an R-8? Is that because of the home sizes or what
- you're in an R-4 preliminary here. Three-paint-something - you can do an R-4,
but it's because of the house sizes?
Taylor: Mr. Mayor, we decided to just go with the original - they were going to be
a little smaller to R-8, but the lots are going to be a minimum of 6500 up to over
10,000, and that 6500 is in the R-8. I might add that the average lot size is
around 7500 square feet.
Corrie: Any other questions? Okay. Thank you. Public hearing is open.
Anyone else like to issue testimony? Yes, sir.
Young: My name is Rex Young. I live at 2950 East Victory Road in Meridian.
I've lived on that property for, in the neighborhood, of 30 years. I'm one of those
lots that's to the south of the proposed Woodhaven Subdivision. When we take a
look at this area, you've got an area there of about 160 acres, and 140 of those
acres make up Thousand Springs and Thousand Springs Village, and that's all
zoned as R-4. Then to the south, you've got about 12 acres, and those are one-
and two-acre lots, and it's zoned R-T and R-1. Then you take a look at
Woodhaven, and it's about an 8-acre plots, 160 yards wide. It abuts Thousand
Springs Village lots to the north and to the west, and it also abuts the rural
residential lots along there to the south. At the initial Planning and Zoning
hearing which was held in December 14, 1999, the meeting lasted until
approximately two a.m., and then was continued until the 12th of January. At that
December meeting, two members of the Council spoke of their concerns about
this proposed project. To paraphrase their comments, they indicated the
neighbors to the south deserved adequate transitional lots and also while they
generally favored mixed and higher densities, they said this may not be the site
for this. It's unfortunate that we did not have a vote that night because both of
those members of the Council were absent at the next meeting where the
annexation and zoning of R-8 were approved. Now, I realize that this is difficult
to look at a project like this, and I've got here some papers that I'd like to give
you. I'll give you a minute to take a look at that and kind of get yourself oriented.
Incidentally, my comments tonight, they pertain to the neighbors to the south,
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Young, Allen, Marquart, Hepper and everyone. My comments all pertain to all of
those properties. Now, I realize that we're here tonight to talk about annexation
and zoning. To really adequately talk about that, I need to talk just for a few
moments about the plot. We're vitally concerned, the neighbors to the south,
vitally concerned about transitional lots. I know that that'll be addressed at a later
date. But the R-8 zoning does not lend itself to providing adequate transitional
lots in accordance with the Comprehensive Plan. Specifically, policy 6.8 of the
Comprehensive Plan states new urban density subdivisions which abut or are
proximal to existing rural residential land uses shall provide screening and
transitional densities with larger, more comparable lot sizes to buffer the interface
between urban level densities and rural residential densities. Now, as you can
see from the map that I've furnished you, that if you look a little bit to the west
there where it abuts up against Thousand Springs Village, we've got transitional
lots that range in size from 18,800 square feet down to about 12,500 square feet.
We think that we should have transitional lots of at least 12,500 square feet.
Now we do not object to the annexation of the property, but we do object to the
zoning. We believe that it should be zoned R-4 consistent with the other 140
acres - recently approved and is in the process of being constructed. Now, this
would not be in violation of the Comprehensive Plan which gives the property a
mixed residential designation as no one can define exactly what mixed
residential means. To have 140 acres of R-4, 12 acres of R-T and R-1, and
sandwiched in between a narrow eight-acre strip zoned R-8 just doesn't make
sense. We urge you to disapprove the R-8 zoning. Do you have any questions?
Corrie: Does Council?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Thank you.
Allen: Jim Allen, I live at 3040 East Victory. Jus to the east of Mr. Young, so I'm
the little portion there that has the dip down - I have the two acres of ground. If I
look at - The Hub of Treasure Valley, a good place to live. City of Meridian.
Memorandum of the Planning and Zoning Commission dated December 30,
1999, down in the second paragraph there, it says annexation and zoning
comments. Mixed residential land use (inaudible) in the Comprehensive Plan. I
think mixed residential could mean that we should have half-acre lots next to our
two-acre lots which does call for in the Comprehensive Plan at one place. Thank
you.
Corrie: Thank you, Mr. Allen. Any other comments? Yes, sir.
Marquart: Mr. Mayor, Council members, Dave Marquart, 3100 East Victory. I
live to the south of this project. I'd like to address, if I may, this zoning issue that
we're having this evening and bring up a couple of points. I do want to reiterate
that the neighbors are in favor of the development of this parcel. We do question
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the R-8 zoning, and we have been very consistent in meeting with the Planning
and Zoning to request an R-4. The neighbors have met and we have been very
consistent in that area. I feel that the process that brought this document to you
this evening to be flawed in some ways, and I'd like to bring some of those issues
to you if I may. Mr. Mayor, if I may, may I bring some material? Thank you.
What you have in front of you are the minutes from the January 12th Planning
and Zoning Commission, and they start on Page 2, and I have them front and
backs in case there's a concern about how you turn the pages. They're
numbered at the top left as the Planning and Zoning Commission would do that.
Could I draw your attention, if I may, to Page 4 of the minutes of that evening. I
have highlighted there Mr. Young's continual support of this statement, we do not
oppose the annexation, but we do oppose the R-8 zoning. We believe that
zoning should be no greater than R-4 which is consistent to what he said tonight,
with the other 140 acres to the north and west, and I bring that to your attention
specifically on that page that he has asked for consistently, as we all have, for an
R-4. If I could draw your attention to Page 6. At the top of the page, Mr. Young
goes on to continue that again, as he said tonight, that he things that 12-5 would
be an adequate buffering size. About halfway down the page, Mr. Borup says
some information there, I don't think (inaudible) but in that it says this is an
intersection, a mile intersection on a state highway. Well, it's not a state
highway. That's highway 55 to the north of the highway - the freeway which then
turns to the west there. So it's not really - I would agree that it's a busy street,
but it is not a state highway there. Logic is going to say that this is the
Comprehensive Plan that usually designates these for commercial intersections.
Your Comprehensive Plan dated 1993 and adopted in '94 does not call for that
intersection to be commercial. So it's flawed in that that's not a commercial area
in your Comprehensive Plan. I don't know how the Planning and Zoning know
that this is going to be a commercial area. Your Comprehensive Plan doesn't
indicate that. It does call for the intersection one mile south of this, Amity and
Eagle, to be commercial, but not in the Comprehensive Plan that you have now.
So I don't know where that may have come from. May I ask you to move to Page
7 for just a moment. About halfway down. Mr. Young says that it is not zoned,
this intersection, now. And Mr. Borup says no, it isn't. Then my statement here is
I believe in the Meridian Comprehensive Plan, and I do. I read the plan. I bought
my property, built my home. I use that document as my planning for this. There
is no commercial plan for this intersection. It's planned for one mile south. Now,
the next statement there, it says our '93 Comprehensive Plan falls to that. How
about the 2000? Well, I didn't even know we had one. I don't know that it's
come before this Board if we even had a Comprehensive Plan. I think '93 is the
Comprehensive Plan, not anything else. So I state that we have to use the one
that we have right now, and it calls for that commercial to be behind us by a mile.
If I might to Page 8, please. Ms. Hepper, in the middle there, brings up the fact
that she has a signed petition. We had 16 people, I believe, from up and down
Eagle Road, and they all supported the annexation but with an R-4. The same
as we have over at the Thousand Springs Village and Thousand Springs. If I
may at the last on Page 9, after the motion has been - rather that after the
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meeting has been closed, Mr. Brown states that the item before us is an
annexation from R- T to R-8. Then he goes on to state that I believe it's
appropriate in this area as previously stated by Mr. Young. Well, as I pointed out
to you on Page 4, Mr. Young wanted an R-4 not an R-8. So I would have to
believe that if Mr. Brown certainly believes that Mr. Young's statement is correct,
that it should be R-4 not an R-8. So because of some of the misstatements here
and the use of a Comprehensive Plan that's not even in existence and not totally
listening to the testimony of the citizens of Meridian, I urge that you deny this
application and ask that it be taken back for a re-design of an R-4. Thank you.
Any questions, please? Thank you.
Corrie: New testimony at this time? Anybody on this side? Okay. Hearing none,
Mr. Young, do you want to give (inaudible) answers (inaudible)?
Taylor: Mr. Mayor, Council, there are a couple of corrections I'd like to make on
some of the testimony. Mr. Young did refer to the 140 acres, I believe, of
Thousand Springs as R-4 and to the south 12 acres of one to two acres of rural
transitional in the R-T, I believe. He did make some comments about the
Planning and Zoning Commission's opinions about an R-8 based on the old
concept plan on the old subdivision plat that was being requested. It is Planning
and Zoning will be reviewing the new submitted preliminary plat, and I believe Mr.
Young mentioned that the Planning and Zoning Commissioners, some of them,
were questioning the compatibility. Well, that was a lot higher density on the
older plan. There were 45 lots there. We're now recommending 30. Also, I want
to suggest that rural residential is really not one to two acres, and I think Staff
has interpreted that to be approximately lots up to and in excess of 1 0 acres that
require buffering. Finally, the comment was made that there is no commercial
plan in the Camp Plan for the corner of Victory and Eagle Road, and that is
correct. I would agree that we are not suggesting it should be commercial. In
that same line of thinking, we also are basing our request on the Comp Plan
which does call for a mixed residential in this area. It is based on Eagle Road
and Victory which are not now, but are on section lines that are undoubtedly in
the future going to be arterials. So in closing, I would urge you to consider that
we certainly have been sympathetic to the property owners to the south. There
are approximately five of them that abut this property. We have gone back in, we
have also, and I will also try to speak to the plat as little as possible, but I - staff
did make a recommendation on spreading those lots out to abut the neighbors to
the south. That has been done. In fact, we have - staff recommended that no
more than two lots abut each of their lots; in fact, in some places we have done
less than that. So there are eight proposed lots to abut their five lots. I believe
that we have made every effort to provide a small enclave of mixed residential
use for the area. I realize that the Comprehensive Plan really doesn't define this,
but we've made every effort to work with staff and the Comprehensive Plan to
provide you with a mixed residential area, not one that strictly is R-4 and an R-1.
We've provided here something to give a mixed residential feel to the area. I
believe that that's really in keeping with good city planning. Thank you.
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Corrie: Council, (inaudible) questions on testimony so far?
Bird: I have none, Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Okay. Hearing none, I'll close the public hearing on - (inaudible) vote.
Bird: So moved.
Anderson: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to close the public hearing on Item NO.7.
Any further discussion?
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor. I would be opposed to closing the public hearing. I would
suggest continuing it until we have a plan in front of us.
Corrie: Okay. Any other comments? Motion before the Council to close the
public hearing. All in favor say aye. (Two ayes) Opposed, no? (One nay).
Okay. We have two yeses, one nay. (inaudible) abstaining - is that-
McCandless: I vote aye.
Corrie: Three ayes, one no.
MOTION PASSED: THREE AYES, ONE NAY
Corrie: Public hearing is closed. Comments? Council?
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor. I've pretty much made my comments. I would like to see
a plan before I can vote on annexation and zoning of this piece of property.
Corrie: Any other comments?
Anderson: Mr. Mayor. I guess my comment would be regardless of whether we
annex it or not, you would still get the opportunity to see a plan and to approve
that plan before any development could take place out there. So this annexation
really would not circumvent that process. That's I guess why I was feeling that it
wouldn't hurt to go ahead and move on the annexation tonight.
Bird: You want to stay to the R-8?
Corrie: Any other comments?
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor. I guess the reason I would like to continue this until we
see a plan is R-8 actually - I know that their proposal or what we hear their
proposal is closer to an R-4, and I understand the reason why, but I'd still rather
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see before I would zone it an R-8, I would rather see a plan because once you
zone it an R-8, it's an R-8. It can be many more lots than what we hear they're
proposing, so I would feel more comfortable seeing a plan before I can vote on
zoning and annexation.
Corrie: You also can require it to be an R-4.
Bird: You could.
deWeerd: You could. I would like the flexibility of seeing what comes back.
Corrie: Anyone else?
Anderson: Can you do partial for buffering? Can you require like R-4 along the
perimeter lots to the south?
Corrie: Well, you can put it in your development plans that they have houses in
the R-4 area that (inaudible) recommendation there, but if you do it an R-8,
you're tied to an R-8, and you're tied to that. If you say, okay, then you want it
R-4, then it's tied to an R-4, and they have to have it as an R-4 everywhere.
They can do houses one to an acre, whatever they want, but if you tie it to an
R-8, you're tying it to an R-8. I can see where Mrs. deWeerd is coming from, but
- just personally, it's always been the Council previous to kind of stay with either
higher density - less density than what's around them than go and put an R-8 in
the middle of an R-4 area. So for what it's worth, I personally would like to see it
an R-4, but it's not my vote unless it comes to a tie. So - I can't make a motion.
Bird: Mr. Bird. My one comment is like you stated that whatever we zone this, I
mean, their plan might be good, well-meant now, and they might only have 30
lots in that eight acres now, but if we zone it R-8, then they can put up to it. Once
it's zoned R-8, it's changed. I'll make a -
Anderson: Mr. Mayor. I was a little confused. I'd like clarification from someone.
Staff or somebody on which Comprehensive Plan we were looking at. Was it '93
or the 2000 or did we have people looking at both of them?
Corrie: We don't have it. We in the Comp Plan change right now. It's in the
works, right, Shari? So we don't have a 2000 Comp Plan they can -
Stiles: No, we don't. It was the 1993.
Anderson: It was the '93 that everyone was looking at? Okay.
Bird: Mr. Mayor. I move that we approve the Findings of Facts and Conclusions
of Law for the annexation and zoning of 8.25 acres to R-4 for proposed
Woodhaven Subdivision by Dan Wood / D.W., Inc. R-4.
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Anderson: I'd second that.
Corrie: Motion has been made for the annexation and zoning of 8.25 acres for
Woodhaven Subdivision to be changed from an R-8 to an R-4 classification.
(inaudible) Findings of Facts.
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor. You know, being a student of P & Z, you know, we
couldn't change those things. That's allowed here?
Corrie: You couldn't, but we can.
deWeerd: I guess the discussion I would like to lend to this, I do like the mixed
use, and the R-8 does allow some multi-family, some townhouse options, and I
guess if we keep the integrity of the R-4 along the lowliness of the larger parcels
and transition, I still think the higher density going toward Thousand Springs
Village is a nice concept. I would not like to limit that kind of ability to do that.
Corrie: Okay. Any other comments? Okay. With that being said, we'll have a
vote on the annexation and zoning to Item No. 7 to an R-4 classification on the
8.25 acres. Roll-call vote, Mr. Berg.
Roll-call: Anderson, nay; deWeerd, nay; McCandless, aye; Bird, aye.
Berg: We have a two-two tie. Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Okay. I'm still going to stick to what I said. I think we've got R-4s all
around us. I think the developer can work into the R-4 with (inaudible) mixed use
and some of the lots that are around there. I'm going to vote aye to break the tie
to be at R-4. Okay.
MOTION CARRIED WITH TIEBREAKER: THREE AYES, TWO NAYS
Item 8.
Public Hearing: RZ 00-001 Request for rezone of 1.761 acres
from R-8 and R-15 to entirely R-15 by Lynd Hoover - 1318 E. 4th:
Corrie: Okay. This is a request for rezone of 1.761 acres from R-8 to R-15 to
entirely R-15 by Lynd Hoover. At this time I'll open public hearing and invite staff
comments.
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, this is for a property located at the end of Badley
Street. This is where Creekside Arbour Apartments are currently. This is where
the second phase of Creekside Arbour was recently approved. The West 4th
Street, half street, does extend north to this property. There is a right-of-way
dedication for West 4th Street just west of this property. Ada County Highway
District has made it a requirement upon development of the property that this
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roadway be extended. Currently, for some reason, this property was split by a
zone. It was zoned R-15 south of approximately this line. North of that line it's
zoned R-8. There are currently two houses on the lot and some miscellaneous
uses in the back. This is at the end of West 4th Street where the houses are
located, and then from the other direction off Badley, this is what exists there
now. There has been some clean-up on the site. The applicant has informed me
they will continue those efforts to clean up the site, and it is the applicant's intent
to probably just sell this to someone, but he would like it all in one zoning to
facilitate a sale and development of the property. It is high density virtually
everywhere around this site. There is the mobile home park is further up here.
With all the apartments here, there's - over here would be where Sterling Creek
Subdivision is. This is where Badley was not being required to go through as a
public road, but staff recommends approval of the rezone with the conditions
stated in our staff report.
Corrie: Since this is a public hearing, we've opened the public hearing, request
Mr. Lynd Hoover, applicant.
Hoover: Mayor, Council members, I'm Lynd Hoover and I live at 3420 Sugar
Creek Drive in Meridian. I've looked at the comments by staff. I have a couple
questions on their comments. Item 1.5. There - that was a run-off ditch which
when those apartments there, Arbour Point was bare land and it irrigated from
the east to the west, that caught the excess water. Now that those apartments
are there, there's no possible means for irrigation, so there's no reason to tile a
ditch which is - has no function. And on Item 1.9, it says construct a five-foot
concrete sidewalk on Badley Street. I hope they don't mean the full part of my
property or the full frontage on Badley Street because part of that I do not own.
Part of it is a private drive which is owned by the apartment buildings. From that
point to the east is private drive. And that's the only questions I have on the
findings of the staff.
Corrie: Okay. Is there - is there still any water that's drained in that?
Hoover: There's no place for water to come from.
Corrie: Okay.
Hoover: There used to be a ditch on the east side of the apartments which would
flood irrigate that whole area. There's apartments there now. There's no way -
they've covered and taken the ditch out. There's no irrigation water there now at
all.
Corrie: Thank you. Anyone else from the public that would like to issue
testimony? Okay. Shari, I have a question about that 1.9 about the sidewalk,
curb and gutter.
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Stiles: Oh. That's correct. You can see from this layout here. All of this would
be owned by the Leavells, so Mr. Hoover does not have the property from here
east to dedicate right-of-way for sidewalk. He would - this would be the only
location that he'd have along Badley that he could provide sidewalk within that
right-of-way. As far as the ditch is, that's a standard comment, and it won't really
be addressed until actual development proposed for the site.
Corrie: Thank you. Comments from Council?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Okay. I'll entertain a motion to close the public hearing.
Bird: So moved~
Anderson: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to close the public hearing on Item No.8.
Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Corrie: Comments from staff? Direction? Okay. Hearing none, I'll entertain a
motion on the request for rezone.
Bird: Mr. Mayor. I move that we approve the request for rezone of 1.761 acres
from R-8 to R-15 to entirely R-15 by Lynd Hoover at 1318 E. 4th with the
recommendations of the staff and also the 1.15, the irrigation ditch, if it has been
vacated, that could be eliminated and that the five-foot wide concrete sidewalk
will only be on property owned by applicant.
McCandless: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded as stated on the record and also to have the
attorney draw up the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law and Order on the
rezone. Any further discussion?
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor. In the recommendation, Development Agreement is
strongly recommended. Is the intent of the motion to include a Development
Agreement as one of the conditions?
Bird: That's automatic on something like this -
Corrie: Shari, is a Development Agreement a part of it that would be drawn up
along with this?
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Stiles: I don't think we're asking for anything extraordinary that's outside of what
the ordinance provides for, so I would like to ask that that requirement be
removed. We don't even know what the development is yet, so we can take care
of that through a conditional use or some other method when they come in for
apartments or whatever it is they come in for.
deWeerd: I just thought that should be clarified.
Stiles: Thank you.
Corrie: Thank you. Does that meet with the approval of the first -
Bird: That would eliminate 1.1 on the recommendation.
Corrie: Okay. Any further discussion? Okay. Mr. Clerk, roll-call vote on the
request for rezone.
Berg: Mr. Mayor, just for clarification, is that amending the motion to eliminate -
okay. As it stands?
Roll-call: Anderson, aye; deWeerd, aye; McCandless, aye; Bird, aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Anderson: Mr. Mayor, I would make a motion that we take a ten-minute break.
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to take a ten-minute break. We'll come back
and we'll see - we may not get through all the public hearings, so we'll see who's
here and what and we'll go from there.
(Meeting reconvened at 10:05 p.m.)
Corrie: Okay. I'll call the meeting back to order. How many people are here for
Item No. 14 which is the public hearing for Wal-Mart? Okay. Number 9, the
annexation and rezone? Ten, request for annexation and zoning by Centers
Construction? Okay. Then 11 and 12 on the Pintail Pointe? One. Okay. We
may have some problems on that one anyway. Okay. Let's do 9 and 10, well,
it's a Council decision here. Maybe we can do 9 and 1 0 and then go to 13 and
14 and maybe get most of those out of the way.
Bird: Let's go for it.
Corrie: (inaudible) Council would like to do that. Any objections?
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Bird: Find with me, Mayor.
Item 9.
Public Hearing: AZ 00-001 Request for annexation and zoning
of 7.99 acres to R-4 by Robert Glenn - Ustick Road west of Locust
Grove Road:
Corrie: All right. I'll open up the public hearing on Item No.9, request for
annexation and zoning of 7.99 acres to R-4 by Robert Glenn, Ustick Road west
of Locust Grove Road. At this time I'll open the public hearing on Item No.9 and
invite staff comments first.
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, this is for an annexation and zoning for R-4 for a
property that's across the street on Ustick from the Howell Tract Subdivision also
known as Pheasant Pointe. This is the Summerfield Subdivision over on Locust
Grove with the high school, charter school here. This is only a request for the
annexation and zoning. This parcel, these two parcels here previously came to
the Council as a preliminary plat for a subdivision called the Hollows. It is zoned
R-3, I believe. The subdivision has lapsed. But we would recommend approval
to R-4 with the conditions, staff and agency conditions. We'll give another shot at
it when they actually come in with a development proposal.
Corrie: Okay. Since this is a public hearing, I'll invite the developer for No.9.
Tealey: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, my name is Pat Tealey, office
address 915 W. Jefferson, Boise, Idaho, and I'm representing the developer on
this project, Mr. Robert Glenn. The request in front of you is to rezone 7.99 acres
from R-T to R-4. This is consistent with Meridian City Comprehensive Plan
which calls for single-family residential in this area. It is consistent with the
surrounding development. All public services are available to this property, and
at their meeting of January 7th, 2000, the Meridian Planning and Zoning
recommended approval of this rezone. We agree with staff that recommendation
and staff comments and here to answer any questions that you might have.
Corrie: Questions of Pat?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Okay. This is a public hearing. Anyone wish to testify on this request for
annexation and zoning? Okay. Hearing none, Council, any questions on the
public hearing? Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion to close the public hearing.
Bird: So moved.
Anderson: Second.
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Corrie: Motion made and seconded to close the public hearing on No.9. Any
further comments? All those in favor of closing the public hearing say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Corrie: The public hearing is now closed. Comments, discussion?
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor. Just a comment to be consistent. As a student of
Planning and Zoning, I really like to see annexation and zoning come in along
with the plan. I'd like to know what kind of plan we're looking at. There may be
lower densities that might fit better there. I think that just because it's surrounded
by R-4 doesn't mean it has to be R-4, and I would like to start seeing some
varieties. So I would like to, again, state my opinion that I'd like to see plans
along with the annexation and zoning.
Corrie: Okay. Further comments?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: All right. Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion on the request for
annexation and zoning on the Robert Glenn to R-4.
Bird: Mr. Mayor. I move that we have the attorney draw up the Findings of Facts
and Conclusions of Law and Decision of Order for approval approving the
annexation and zoning of 7.99 acres to R-4 by Robert Glenn on Ustick Road
west of Locust Grove Road.
Anderson: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to approve the request for annexation and
zoning of 7.99 acres to R-4 by Robert Glenn on Item No.9. Any further
comments? Hearing none, roll-call vote, Mr. Clerk.
Roil-cali: Anderson, aye; deWeerd, nay; McCandless, aye; Bird, aye.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES TO ONE NAY
Item 10.
Public Hearing: AZ 00-002 Request for annexation and zoning of
5.029 acres to L-O and R-8 by Centers Construction, Inc. - west
side of Locust Grove % mile north of Fairview:
Corrie: Okay. Item No. 10 is a public hearing -
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request for annexation and zoning of 5.029 acres to L-Q and R-8 by Centers
Construction, Inc., west side of Locust Grove and quarter mile north of Fairview.
At this time I'll open the public hearing and invite staff comments first.
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, this is for a property that's approximately a
quarter mile north of Fairview Avenue on Locust Grove. To the south is a
subdivision in the County called the Doris Subdivision. It is zoned R-8. The
surrounding subdivisions to the north and west are R-8 subdivisions as well as
across the street. This is the Fred Meyer complex here with the storage units
here. The applicant is proposing L-Q zone on the front portion for an office and
the remainder for - I'm not sure exactly what the development is, but they had -
were proposing townhouses on some smaller lots, and they were coming in with
a PUD that you will see at a later time. The annexation and zoning was
submitted first. The application was not complete for the Conditional Use Permit
and the plat at that time. This is a picture of the property. It has been vacant for
some time. If you may recall some of you - Joe Glaser had previously come in
with an application called the Grove Run Subdivision that was eventually - I'm
not sure if it was withdrawn or denied. Staff would recommend approval of the
zoning to L-Q and R-8 with the conditions stated in our staff report.
Corrie: Any questions of staff? None? Okay. Developer.
Canning: Yes, Mayor, members of the Council, my name is Joe Canning with B
& A Engineers. The address is 5505 West Franklin in Boise. I'm here tonight
with the applicant regarding this application. This is a request for annexation and
zoning of five acres of property. This is, essentially, just northwest of Fred Meyer
site on the corner of Locust Grove and Fairview. We are asking for an L-Q zone
for the front acre that's adjacent to Locust Grove and then an R-8 zone for the
back four acres on the property. We do concur with the staff's report, their
recommendations and requirements regarding this rezone and annexation. I'd
be more than happy to answer any questions. The entire site is surrounded by
R-8 property at this point in time. Any questions?
Corrie: You're in agreement with all the conditions?
Canning: Yes, we are.
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor. Is there a reason you don't have - you're coming forward
with no plan at this time?
Canning: Well, there is one. It's a little embarrassing, perhaps, but we submitted
the annexation and rezone with the conditional use and the subdivision plat all at
the same time, and everything was found to be in order on the annexation and
rezone, and we have a few little glitches on the conditional use and preliminary
plat, so they were held back until the next submission time.
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deWeerd: So it wouldn't terribly hurt your feelings if this were tabled until that
came forward as well?
Canning: It will be coming forward fairly soon because -
deWeerd: Well, that's good to hear.
Canning: -- Planning and Zoning did act on the CU last week.
deWeerd: Great. Well, I like your mixed use, but I look forward to your plan
before I vote. I would like to be consistent again, guys.
Canning: It's coming.
deWeerd: You can see I'm very influential, you know.
Canning: It's coming soon.
deWeerd: Thank you.
Corrie: You can do things in City Council that you can't do in Planning and
Zoning, so - but you're all right. Okay. Any other questions? Thank you.
Anybody else from the public that would like to issue testimony?
Weaver: Good evening, City Council, Mr. Mayor. Excuse me if you have trouble
understanding me. I'm fighting a really nasty cold. My name is Bill Weaver. I
live at 2137 Sapphire Place. If we could go back to the previous overhead, I live
just north of this property. While, indeed, the property on both sides of this is
zoned R-8, excuse me, you can see the density is far less than that. It is about
the density of an R-4. Now, while that is only part of the problem, when we
actually look at the plat that the person plans on doing, they're planning on 32 or
30 townhouses on four acres of property. The front acre being an office that is
"going to have conditional use for doctors' offices and dentists." Now, when he
can't get a doctor in there or a dentist in there, then he can come back and have
the conditional use dropped and maybe go for a variance and have a bar in there
or a Wendy's in there or a convenience store in there. This is from one of my
neighbors who could not attend tonight. He's working for US Bank and is out of
town and his wife is on her two weeks' National Guard. He asked that I give that
to City Council. He also asked that I talk for him, also. We do not believe that
L-O and R-8 is the right zoning for this property. We would like to see this
property annexed by the City, but we would like to have it zoned strictly
residential without the limited use business because there is no guarantee that
once it is L-O that it won't go to something like a bar or a Wendy's or something
with a drive-thru. No one can tell us what's going to happen five years down the
road, and this has once been said tonight. Once it's zoned limited office,
anything that fits our business plan can go in there. That's not something that
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we'd like in this area. Again, also with the density being R-8, yes, he plans
putting 30 townhouses on four acres of property, and we truly believe that density
is too high. I don't know if there's a way of saying zone it R-8 with the density not
to exceed the density in the area, or should we lower it to an R-4. But we truly
believe that by putting that in there, you're going to add another 450 cars coming
out onto Locust Grove. That's the only access to this piece of property is Locust
Grove. Four hundred fifty cars in a very small area. I don't know if anyone's
driven that in the morning, but that's almost impossible if you had another 450
cars. People are not going to be able to get out there. You're going to be adding
traffic lights 100 yards from Chateau, you'll have a second traffic light so people
can get in and out of there. I appreciate your time, and I apologize for my froggy
throat. Any questions?
Corrie: You'd like to have this letter put in as testimony?
Weaver: Please.
Corrie: Would you read that to the Council as testimony?
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor. Just a comment. A bar and a restaurant are not permitted
in L-O with a Conditional Use Permit.
Weaver: (inaudible) variance, they are.
deWeerd: With a variance?
Weaver: According to the information that I got from your Planning and Zoning, if
you look under L-O, and I think it's with permit access or something of that
nature, it is there, yes, ma'am.
Corrie: It's under a variance of land use. You can't get a variance (inaudible). Is
that correct, Mr. Attorney? It's land use - variances are not allowed for land use.
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, I believe the variances are for
special site-specific conditions such as a natural terrain or some sort of condition
. that you then perhaps vary a setback requirement or something like that. It's
site-specific. I don't believe a variance is appropriate with regard to land use. It
would be, I believe that Director Stiles has some comments.
Corrie: Shari.
Stiles: Convenience stores and restaurants in our ordinance would be allowed
through conditional use in that zone, but that doesn't mean they have to be
approved.
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Corrie: Okay. If it's in our ordinance, but I didn't think land use could have
variances.
Stiles: No. They couldn't get a variance, but they could apply for a Conditional
Use Permit in an L-O zone.
Corrie: Okay. Thank you.
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor, just one more clarification on that. If the original CUP was
for light office, if it were a convenience store or a restaurant, that would have to
be specified at that time, wouldnJt it?
Stiles: Yes.
deWeerd: Okay. Thanks.
Corrie: Mr. Clerk, I'll give you the opportunity.
Berg: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This letter is dated February 13, 2000, addressed
to the Honorable Commissioners, City of Meridian: My wife, Corliss, and I reside
at 2153 North Sapphire Place, Meridian. Since we are travelling this week, we
are using this means to convey our opposition to the proposed construction of
high-density, lawn houses. I presume it's probably the townhouse concept, and
the business office located off Locust Grove between Fairview and Chateau.
The reasons include traffic, high-density residence, devaluating of my residence
and my neighbors'. I understand that this is their attempt to develop this property
with the previous two efforts having declined by the City Commission. What
does it take to have the zoning and planning people understand this? Please
represent us and deny the development. Thank you. Dennis and Corliss Throm
(sic).
Corrie: Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Anyone else to testify in this request? Okay.
Developer, you have the last chance to answer the questions. Are there any
townhouses, 450 cars?
Canning: Well, of course the townhouses themselves would be under the
preliminary and conditional use process that is coming, and regarding the L-Q
zone, I presume the questions have been answered on that. That would be
conditioned upon the conditional use process that's coming forward. As far as
the traffic goes, indeed, it will be contributing additional cars to Locust Grove.
Now that is our only access point. This parcel is landlocked other than the
frontage on Locust Grove. Quite a few cul-de-sacs in the area, but unfortunately,
none extend through the property. WeJre pretty much limited to that access on
Locust Grove. I would just like to point out that the Ada County Highway District
will be reconstructing that portion of Locust Grove in 2001. So that is coming
down the pipeline. I believe the construction plans are about 95 percent
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complete. At least, that's the last set I saw, and that is planned to occur. Really,
that's all the additional information I think I need to provide at this time, but I'd be
happy to answer any questions.
Corrie: Questions? Okay. Thank you. Council, any other questions for public
hearing? Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion to close the public hearing on Item
No. 10.
Bird: So moved.
deWeerd: Mra Mayor.
Corrie: Motion is made. Do I hear a second?
McCandless: Second.
Corrie: Okay. Motion is made and seconded. Any discussion, Mrs. deWeerd.
deWeerd: Why are we going to close public hearing because we can just wait
just one more meeting and see the whole package in front of us and then vote on
it then. Again, if you close the public hearing, we won't be able to enter in new
testimony, and I would like to see ACHD's report on this, I would like to see a
plan. I just don't think it's good planning to rule on something that already has a
plan before seeing it. Again, there's my opinion.
Corrie: Do you want to - secondary motion to table the public hearing and re-
open the public hearing?
deWeerd: Well, that was my intent, but the motion to move came before I could
do that.
Corrie: No. You can make an amendment motion and we vote on that. Do you
still have a right to make an amendment motion and we'll vote on that.
deWeerd: Well, I'd certainly like to make an amendment motion to continue the
public hearing to - Is March 7th the date that we'll be seeing the CUP request or
the 21st?
Stiles: It should be the 7th if it got noticed.
deWeerd: Then I move to continue the public hearing to March 7th. To continue
the public hearing until March 7th.
Anderson: 1'(1 second that amendment.
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Corrie: Motion is made and seconded to continue the public hearing until March
the ih of 2000. Any further discussion? Okay. We'll vote on the amended
motion. All those in favor of continuing the public hearing until March 7th next
month, say aye. (Three ayes) Opposed, no?
McCandless: No.
Corrie: Roll-call vote. I didn't get it all. Would you give a roll-call vote, please.
Roll-call: Anderson, aye; deWeerd, aye; McCandless, nay; Bird, aye.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES TO ONE NAY
Corrie: Then we will continue the public hearing on this request for annexation
and zoning until the 7th of March on the Centers Construction.
Item 13.
Public Hearing: CUP 00-005 Request for Conditional Use Permit
for Papa John's Pizza in an L-Q zone - take-out, delivery and
eating establishment by Cole Associates Architects - 1580 4th
Street, Suite 103:
Corrie: We're skipping 11 and 12 and going to the Papa John's. I believe that
will be fairly quick on Item No. 13. It's a public hearing for CUP, request for
Conditional Use Permit for Papa John's Pizza in an L-O zone, take-out, deliver
and eating establishment by Cole Associates Architects. At this time I'll open the
public hearing on Item No. 13 and invite staff comments.
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, I'm not - have they requested a withdrawal of this
application?
Anderson: I don't think we have anything official on it.
Stiles: Is the applicant here? They have applied for a building permit right next to
Subway. So there is - the applicant is here?
Corrie: Is the applicant here tonight?
Bird: Yes.
Corrie: I think he is, yes.
Stiles: Oh. This is the wrong one. I don't know whether to go ahead with it or -
this is where the Meridian Computer Center is. It's H & R Block is in there, and
they had proposed to put the Papa John's in there, but since that time, they have
come in and asked for a building permit to locate where Subway is down on East
1st Street. So I don't know if they were just hedging their bets and trying both, or
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- I don't know whether to continue it and request them to withdraw, or if they're
not intending to go ahead. I guess there's not much point -
Corrie: (inaudible) here tonight, then?
Anderson: Mr. Mayor. I would make a motion that we continue the public
hearing on the CUP for Papa John's seeing that there's no representative here to
present their case for us.
Bird: Second.
Corrie: To what?
Anderson: To March 7th. Thank you.
Corrie: Motion's made and seconded to continue the public hearing on Item No.
13 on Papa John's Pizza Conditional Use Permit continued to 3/7/2000. Any
further discussion?
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor. If we could instruct staff to please contact the applicant
and see what his intent is.
Corrie: Okay. Any other comments? Motion is made to continue the public
hearing. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor of the motion
say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Corrie: Item No. 14 is a request for Conditional Use Permit for commercial
expansion of Meridian Crossroads Shopping Center, Wal-Mart, by Developers
Diversified Realty Corp., c/o the Dakota Company, Inc., southeast corner of
Records Drive and Fairview Avenue.
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor. I would like to declare a conflict of interest and step down,
please.
Bird: Okay by me.
Corrie: Any objections? Okay. (inaudible). Tammy, wait just a minute. Item
No. 12. Is there anybody here on this Pintail? Just you two? Eleven and
twelve? Okay. Do we want to take it now and we'll finish up on the 13 and 14.
(inaudible) deal with most of it. All right. Let's go back one and Tammy, come
back.
Item 11.
Public Hearing: AZ 00-003 Request for annexation and zoning of
3.68 acres to R-4 for proposed Pintail Pointe Subdivision by Jeff
Manship - south side of Cherry Lane, east of Black Cat Road:
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Item 12.
Public Hearing: PP 00-001 Request for preliminary plat for 11
lots on 3.68 acres in proposed R-4 zone for proposed Pintail
Pointe Subdivision by Jeff Manship - south side of Cherry Lane,
east of Black Cat Road:
Corrie: All right. Let's open up the public hearing on the request for annexation
and zoning of 3.68 acres of R-4 proposed Pintail Pointe Subdivision by Jeff
Manship, south of Cherry Lane and east of Black Cat Road and at the same time
if there's no objection to Council, we'll open up 12 for the preliminary plat. We
might as well take it all at one time. All right. Open the public hearing on Items
11 and 12 and invite staff comments first.
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, this is for a property that has previously been
before you. It was proposed as one-acre lots. Since this property has come in
here, the English Gardens Subdivision. They have a stub street that will be
extended into the property, and the sewer will be extended, so the proposal now
is to come in with an R-4 zoning, and it shows where the existing property, what's
on the lot. This is the proposed layout. They would enter through English
Gardens, come up through - there is an adjacent five-acre parcel to the south
that they would extend a stub street to. Up here they have a kind of
hammerhead configuration. We would ask that this be approved with staff and
agency conditions.
Corrie: Okay. This is a public hearing. I'd invite the applicant to come forward,
please.
Manship: Mayor, Council members, Jeff Manship, 4375 West Cherry Lane.
Granting Tammy's wishes by bringing the annexation and the plat together at the
same time. So - you're welcome. I'm in total agreement with all the
recommendations by everybody and have no questions for the annexation and
zoning.
Corrie: Okay. Any questions for Mr. Manship?
Bird: I have none.
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor, I guess I would ask - have you seen this letter from Paul
Edminster (sic)?
Manship: I just received it about 10 minutes ago.
deWeerd: Have you had a chance to read it?
Manship: Yes. I haven't really had a chance to think about it yet, though. Ten
minutes is not a lot of time.
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deWeerd: So if I asked you to comment, you would have no comment at this
time; correct?
Manship: Correct. I would like to discuss that with my engineers and whatnot.
Corrie: Thank you. Anyone else from the public that would like to issue
testimony? Yes, sir.
Davis: I'm George Davis, 4225 West Cherry Lane. I'm concerned about a sewer
corridor to those two five-acres east of this.
Corrie: Okay. Any specific? Just want to know where they are or what -
anything particular that you want to know about the sewer line; is that correct?
Davis: Yeah. They would be totally landlocked without sewer facilities. I
assume that there should be a corridor to the street s'omehow to get onto the
Black Cat and the pump or whatever they're going to do.
Corrie: Okay. We'll find out what they have to answer on that one. We'll find out
for you.
Davis: Thank you.
Unger: Mr. Mayor and Council members, my name is Bob Unger with Pinnacle
Engineers. We represent Paul Edminster who is Projects West who is the
English Gardens which is the development directly to the west of this project. To
follow up on Paul's letter, he wanted to be here this evening, but it's his birthday
and his wife had something very special planned for the evening, so he didn't
make it, and I'm here. I just have a couple things. You do have the letter. I
won't worry about passing that out. What I have here is just a kind of a northern
portion of English Gardens so that you can see what I'm talking about. I will be
very, very brief on this. Primarily, Projects West's concern, and they're really not
opposed to the project itself. I want to make that right up front that we're not
· opposed to this project even though he states it in there that in our discussion
this afternoon we reviewed a couple of things that could be done to resolve his
concerns. Now, hopefully you all recall the conditions for approval on English
Gardens is the installation of a lift station and a pressurized sewer line that will go
all the way up almost to Ustick Road, and also the installation of a dryline - the
Black Cat Trunk Line along the Ten Mile Creek. This particular development is
taking direct access from English Gardens. It does not have any access to
Cherry Lane. Of course, we were required to make that stub street to the east
for future development which we did. But what our concerns are are that they
are able to come in with 1 0 or 11 lots and reap all the benefits of Project West's
investments and additional costs in the lift stations, the trunk lines, the path that
goes along the Ten Mile and over to Fuller Park. In addition to that, he certainly
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is concerned about the quality of homes that may be built within this
development, and he's really looking for some assurances from the developer
and/or the City that his efforts and his expenditures are not solely going to be his
burden and that these folks can come in on the tailend and reap the benefits.
Certainly they're going to enjoy the nice landscaped entrances into English
Gardens and still not have to pay for any of that. So the recommendations that
we would ask and ask the City Council to consider would be for - I think it would
be a very good idea for this developer and Mr. Edminster to meet to go over
some of these thoughts since they haven't had an opportunity to do so at this
point. I know Paul Edminster will be in town next week, and I told him, this
developer, that he would be in town and would like to meet with him on this.
Some of the recommendations that we had that may be able to alleviate any
concerns is, one, Pintail development adopt English Gardens CC & Rs which
would assure the similar sizes and construction standards and development
standards within the two developments so that they are very, very compatible.
Secondly that Pintail Development be incorporated into the English- Gardens
Homeowners Association. This would cover the cost of irrigation, landscaping, et
cetera so that both developments would bear a proportionate share in some of
the benefits that are being brought in by the Projects West people. Also the
other concern, and I don't know whether this is something that the City has to
look at or public works has to look at is some sort of proportionate share of the
installation and construction of the lift station and the pressure sewer system.
They certainly are going to reap the benefits because without it they could not
develop this piece of property. So that is what we're asking for. We're asking for
some sort of clarification. Some sort of conditions or something to that effect to
protect and offset the costs that would be born by Projects West. He's only
looking for a proportionate share. He's not asking for this developer to pay 50
percent or something and be based on the number of lots. So that would be our
recommendation. If we can work something like that out, I'm sure that Mr.
Edminster would be very amiable to support the development. At this point,
without knowing answers to those questions, he is not comfortable in supporting
it. Okay? Any questions? Thank you.
Corrie: Anyone else like to issue testimony on this? Okay. Rebuttal on any
questions that came up? Do you have anything to say or do you want to try to
talk it out?
Manship: Yeah. I'll get together with the developer of Projects West and talk
about it. I don't see a reason why this can't be pushed through, though, tonight.
That's (inaudible) preliminary plat, though. I had not developed any CC & Rs yet
or even established Homeowners Associations. That's still in the works, too, if
that makes a difference.
Corrie: Thank you. Any questions, Council?
Bird: I have none.
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Anderson: Mr. Mayor. I have questions of Staff. I guess this is primarily more
for Gary. In these kinds of circumstances, Gary, aren't we - I mean, in our sewer
master plan, doesn't it allow so that all properties would have access to sewer? I
mean, would this be common practice? We still have the five-acre parcel down
to the south of it. To the - no. It's south of this property that at some point is
probably going to develop and is going to need sewer and is going to need
access roads into it, too. I guess would that be common practice that they need
to allow for stubs into that other property so that it can be sewered and so they
have access?
Smith: Councilman Anderson, Mayor and Council, our master plan addresses
sewers from a 10-inch diameter size and up. Properties that are served by the
lateral sewers, the eight-inch diameter sewers, we have to look at each
development to make sure we're not going to landlock somebody that can be
served. In some instances, sewers have been put in the past and the elevations
are such that we can't get the property served by gravity; just physically not
possible. Parkside Creek has a lift station - this portion of Parkside Creek that
you can see on this drawing has a lift station in that little cul-de-sac looks like a
little donut and it has a common lot that comes out to the south and west, and
that actually has a piece of gravity sewer line in it that will eventually connect to
the trunk (ine to be constructed along Ten Mile Drain. That will eliminate that lift
station. The question Mr. Davis brought up is the two parcels of ground directly
to the east of this parcel, at this point, the only service that's available to them
would be into Mr. Manship's development if they can be served by gravity, by
elevation. I don't know offhand whether or not that can happen or not.
Anderson: So there's no allowance or stub or anything out that direction right
now in the plan?
Smith: There isn't on the preliminary plat, no. That's correct. But it definitely
needs to be looked at to see if the depth of the sewer in this proposed
development can be extended to the east to provide service and if it can, then it
needs to be stubbed in that direction. And that can be done, not necessarily in a
public right-of-way, roadway, it could be done in a common lot that would be kind
of set aside for this utility. I've stayed away from easements because every time
I get into an easement situation, I get covered up, and we lose it. I mean, the
pipe is still there, but we lose the good access to it. I'm trying to stay with some
kind of a common lot.
Anderson: So would it be appropriate, then, for this English Gardens
development to have a lift station and pump that's adequately sized to service
those other pieces of property? I mean, if we know that they're going to have to
go through that direction and be pumped, it would seem logical to put the
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Smith: Yes. The answer to your question in this case where we know what's
going to be served by the lift station, it should be sized accordingly. Right.
Anderson: And are we helping the developer with part of the cost of those trunk
line systems knowing that that's eventually going to go into the Black Cat one?
Smith: No. They're paying a Black Cat Trunk fee as part of the conditions - for
the English Gardens.
Anderson: So a line won't actually be constructed now. They're just going to pay
a fee?
Smith: They're going to build a line through their development along Ten Mile
Drain.
Anderson: But not on Black Cat itself?
Smith: Right.
Anderson: Okay.
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor. Gary, is there a way that that lift station could be built and
the costs be proportionally shared with the developments to the east?
Smith: Yes. In this case, since there are two developments being proposed that
would be served by it, they could share in that proportional cost and then the size
of the lift station to serve other properties could have a latecomers assessment
attached to it so that if those other two properties can serve by gravity into it, the
other two five-acre parcels, if and when that happens, then they would pay a
share of that cost for the lift station also.
deWeerd: So the developer would get those costs back?
Smith: Yes. Could get that cost back if the development takes place.
deWeerd: Okay. So what Mr. Unger said, can that be worked into this
development or do we need to wait until the two talk it over and get back to us on
what the agreement is?
Anderson: I would think it would be appropriate to not only have the two
developers discuss it, but to have Gary involved in that discussion to plan for
these future properties and it be a three-way conversation instead of just two
people planning for their particular developments.
deWeerd: Exactly.
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Smith: Right. I can certainly do that, and I'd be happy to do that. I think the first
thing, though, that we have to do is to figure out if those properties can be served
by gravity. If it comes to a point of them having to have their own lift station, then
they're out of the picture because development is taking place around them right
now with this proposal now that would - if they can't be served by gravity, then
their only option is a small lift station.
Anderson: And can that be readily determined without a bunch of engineering?
Smith: Well, there'll have to be some engineering just to calculate the depth of
the sewer extension out of this property to the east and then take a look at the
ground elevations out there. It'd be an approximation. We could possibly have
Mr. Manship's engineer just shoot a couple of elevations out there on the five-
acre to the east of them and see how the ground lays. We've got those old
USGS maps, but they're not real accurate. They do give you a general indication
of how the ground slopes. And typically, if you have a depth of five to six feet at
that west boundary as you continue to the east with a sewer, it generally follows
the grade of the ground because the ground in this area slopes from east to
west. Now, in this case because you're sloping possibly from Cherry Lane
southwest toward the drain, I don't know for sure, but really need to take a look at
the land elevations there, too, just to make sure that sewer - if it was extended to
Mr. Manship's east boundary could be continued to the east and provide the
service. I might say, too, Mr. Mayor and Council, that possibly Mr. Davis who's
lived out there for a long time could shed some light on that, and maybe Mr.
Manship could, too.
Manship: I'd like to add, Mr. Davis, that is a five-acre parcel right to the east of
me, has split that with a road coming down off of Cherry Lane to a two and-a-half
acre parcel to the south. It's not shown on that map right there. He ran it
through the county. That's another factor to consider that both Mr. Davis and the
other gentleman (inaudible) sold the other half to are going to be willing to
consider developing that, too. I think Mr. Davis was just making a point that he
has two and-a-half acres he'd like sewered some time.
Corrie: Any comments? Questions?
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor. Just one more question. Can we move this forward
without these issues answered? Can they be placed as conditions or do we
need to wait until they sit down and discuss this? What is the appropriate way to
proceed?
(inaudible discussion amongst Council members)
Corrie: You can do the annexation and hold the preliminary. You could defer the
public hearing until they get back with what they have in mind, and you could do
it all at one time.
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Bird : (inaudible)
Anderson: Mr. Mayor. I'd like to ask the applicant, Jeff, you've been at this a
long time. I think already on this piece of property. Would the 7th of March be
giving you a chance to work with English Gardens developer and with the City
Engineer, Gary Smith, would that mess up your plans bad?
Manship: English Gardens, they're out breaking ground (inaudible) another two
weeks. (inaudible).
Corrie: Any other questions?
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor, I would move that we continue the public hearing for
request of annexation and zoning of 3.68 acres to R-4 for the proposed Pintail
Pointe Subdivision by Jeff Manship to March 7th.
Corrie: DO you want to do that also with the preliminary plat?
deWeerd: I would like to if I can do them both at the same time. Yes.
Bird: You're doing 11 and 12?
deWeerd: Yes.
Bird: 1'(1 second that.
Corrie: Motion is made and seconded to continue the public hearing on Items 11
and 12 until 3/7/2000. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor
of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Item 14.
Public Hearing: CUP 00-004 Request for Conditional Use Permit
for commercial expansion of the Meridian Crossroads Shopping
Center (Wal-Mart) by Developers Diversified Realty Corp., c/o the
Dakota Company, Inc. - southeast corner of Records Drive and
Fairview Avenue:
Corrie: Okay. We'll go to Item No. 14 now, and Tammy, you are excused.
( previous statement by Mrs. deWeerd: Mr. Mayor. ) would like to declare a
conflict of interest and step down, please. )
Corrie: )'11 open the public hearing on a request for Conditional Use Permit for
commercial expansion of the Meridian Crossroads Shopping Center, Wal-Mart,
by Developers Diversified Realty Corp., c/o Dakota Company, Inc., southeast
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corner of Records Drive and Fairview Avenue. At this time 1'1( open the public
hearing and staff comments first.
Stiles: Mrw Mayor and Council, this is for the property that came before you
previously for a rezone from I-L to C-G on this portion of the property. This was
previously proposed for some retail buildings and a theaterw This property here
would be actually where the Wal-Mart store would be located. The property is
not yet annexed into the City, this portion of it. That was partially the reason this
had to go to a second public hearing. The Development Agreement, I don't
believe, has been entered into yet. Another reason that the second public
hearing was required is that the Planning and Zoning Commission indicated to
the people present at that meeting that they would have another opportunity to
talk to the City Council at a later date for a public hearing. The applicant has
proposed some changes to the recommendations of the Planning and Zoning
Commission which I believe you have in your packets. The one that they are
proposing on Item 1.17, 20-foot planting strips are required next to incompatible
land uses, and they are proposing ten feet. This would be against our current
ordinance. As for the other suggested changes they have, we would have no
objection to those provided those are all in accordance with Ada County Highway
District's standards. The Conditional Use Permit is for roughly a 206,000 square
foot Waf-Mart. This isn't the latest site plan. They have proposed another site
plan that shows, I'm not sure of the exact location, but it would have a five-foot
pedestrian walkway along one of these rows of parking here. I don't know if
there were any other changes. I'm sure that people are very anxious to state
their feelings on this project, and there is a plat that will be before you at a later
time. They are proposing, since this is an illegal split, the existing property, they
will have to provide - have a preliminary plat and final plat approved and
recorded. They're proposing a lot here. We'd ask that any future use of either
one of these buildings, they're proposing a lot here and this lot here, we would
request all of those uses be submitted and developed under the conditional use
process (inaudible) what is shown as all landscaping here. Obviously, will not be
all landscaping when they come in for a building on that. This is almost to the
limits of our area of impact. The visual quality of this development is very
important for that reason. They are proposing a six-foot high block wall all along
this area, I believe. They can correct me if I'm wrong. All along the southern -
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That's alii have to say.
Corrie: Okay. Since this is a public hearing, we'll start with the applicant.
Durkin: May name is Larry Durkin. My address is 380 East Park Center
Boulevard, Suite 100, Boise, Idaho, 83706. Mr. Mayor, members of the City
Council, I'm the President of the Dakota Company. We are a Boise-based
devilment company, and I'm here tonight on behalf of Developers Diversified
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Realty Corporation. I ask you to approve our application for a Conditional Use
Permit as recommended by Planning and Zoning. This phase of our center
includes a 206,000 square-foot store and a future 30,000 square-foot store on a
site that is about 25 acres. We will submit separate Conditional Use Permit
requests for the 30,000 square-foot building and for the other pad that Shari
mentioned, sometime in the future. Tonight we request that you focus on the
development plan and the primary building. Two years ago, we began the City
approval process for this shopping center. You may recall we received approval
for an 855,000 square-foot shopping center including about 135,000 square feet
of building development on this part of the property that has now been readjusted
for the new phase. I'd like to just walk over - Tom, I'd like you to put the big
board up. I'd like to give you a view and the audience a tour of the plan and
refresh your memory on that. Just to make sure everyone's thinking the same,
this is Fairview Avenue, this is Eagle Road, this is the new Shapka store,
Sportsman's Warehouse is under construction. This phase of the development
will begin construction just within the next few days along with this building right
here. As you know, we have this entire area paved, landscaped and basically
completed. This is the property that we have gone through the annexation
procedure on, the Comprehensive Plan change and the rezoning to separate this
parcel out from the balance of the center. This is a 206,000 square-foot Wal-
Mart Super Center. The store has the general merchandise that Wal-Mart is
famous for and also has groceries. I think if you remember a number of people
have testified in front of you requesting we have groceries in the area. This will
be a full-service grocery store. It isn't a pantry-type of operation like you see at
Kmart of some of the others. This is more similar to the Fred Meyer Superstore.
So just to give you a sense of how that store lays out. We do not know what we
are going to do here, yet. I don't have any plans. As I said, we'll submit that at a
later date. We do have a number of restaurants, but I think there are one or two
under construction over in this area right now. We have, initially, on this
development, the City staff highly recommended and the Crossroads residents
requested that we do a ring-road system through here to accommodate the
traffic. We went through a number of hearings, I would say, three months worth
of hearings on that trying to fine-tune that design, and that's been done and
completed. We're continuing that concept through here for the rest of the
development. In addition, there's access throughout the entire rear of the center
that's screened with a block wall and landscaping, and that same access will
continue through the center. I'm going to go back to the podium. With this
application and the 30,000 square-foot future building, the total development of
the shopping center increases by only 75,000 square feet, yet, we're adding
about 14 acres to the development of the project. A 14-acre development
anywhere else in Meridian would have about two and-a-half to three times that
much building on it, and it would certainly have far more traffic. This phase will
add about 2,000 cars per day to the overall project in the traffic analysis that
you've previously seen and that's been approved by ACHD. If the store were
built across the street or down the road, the traffic would be far greater. We
have received unanimous approval from ACHD for this phase of the
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development. We are meeting or exceeding all of the conditions now in place for
the Crossroads Shopping Center. We've received, as I've mentioned, several
requests for a grocery store, and there's been testimony by several people in
front of you with that request. This building, as I've said, will have a full-line
grocery store. We have read and we agree with most of the conditions in the
Planning and Zoning Recommendations, yet, we believe there were a couple of
errors in the Findings that you have in front of you, and we have submitted a
letter today to Will Berg that Shari referred to. The first item, I'm not going to go
through them all unless you have questions, but I want to clarify, the first item,
the plan that we had submitted was labeled 41. It showed 31. The revised plan
to accommodate the Planning and Zoning Department's request for sidewalks, et
cetera, the result is that we have a 32-foot buffering all along the south edge of
the property. Item No.1. 7, the staff recommendations were for 10-foot wide
planter area, but the way the wording was in the Findings, it was vague whether
or not on both sides of the street. So it was our intention to just clarify to you that
the plan we submitted in the first place had a 1 Q-foot buffer on the west side of
Venture Street and we don't have any land or we are not installing buffer on the
east side of the street. So it was just our intention to clarify that point in the
Findings. Tom - does everyone have a copy of that letter? I brought extras just
in case you didn't - As Shari mentioned, we've gone through the annexation and
rezone process for this site. We have recently approved the Development
Agreement that was drafted by the City Attorney. We've requested the City
Attorney provide us with execution copies of that which we'll sign and deliver to
you for your signature. As of today we haven't received that, but I'm certain that
will be coming shortly. I want you to know that the document was drafted by the
City Attorney, the draft that was given to us was - we made a few modifications
to correct the legal descriptions and the names of the parties, and so there's
nothing - there's no points of dispute on that document. I believe it's also been
delivered to Shari Stiles, and I'm not aware of any concerns that she's
expressed. So all we're waiting for is a signature-ready document which we'll
execute and give back to you. We have received Planning and Zoning approval
for the final plat, and we've received ACHD's approval for the final plat, and
we've received ACHD's approval for the final plat. That matter will be in front of
you next month. The primary concern with the residents - that they have
expressed during the last conditional use hearing, and I want to clarify that I may
- the last time around on the first phase of the shopping center, not a few weeks
ago. The primary concern that the residents expressed during the last
conditional use hearing was the noise behind the shopping center. We spent
several hearings in front of you talking about potential noise with loading docks
backing up to occupied residential areas. With this plan, this development plan,
as you can see, the store backs up to an occupied cemetery and new street. We
have no loading docks that are backing up to or are adjacent to any existing or
planned residential areas. The cemetery owners are in full support of our plan.
We feel that this plan is far better than the previous plan of having the buildings
back up to the occupied homes. As I mentioned, all the buffering that we will be
doing in this phase will exceed the buffering that's in Phase I. The buffering
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along the back of the existing shopping center is 20 feet. This is 31 feet. Noise
control for this development, this Phase, is in accordance with the approvals that
we have on Phase I. Pat Doby is our traffic engineer, and he's here tonight, and
he'll answer any questions that you may have regarding his studies and the
traffic flows. I will say that to my knowledge, no one has had any traffic concerns
at the many ACHD hearings that we've held. We have agreed with all of the
ACHD conditions and requests and promise to continue our efforts to maintain
this line of communication. We've voluntarily sped up other off-site requirements
along Eagle Road to help with the traffic that's there now. These improvements
include going forward with the stop light at Eagle Road and Pine Street. I'm just
going to ask Tom - I guess it doesn't go down that far. Generally point so
everyone can see on that plan about where that would be, Tom? Widen - we're
also widening the Eagle Road and the Fairview intersection in all directions. This
is a requirement of our earlier approvals, but it wasn't a requirement until the first
phase of the center was more than half-way built out. I felt it was necessary. I
drive right by here to and from work every day, and I felt it was necessary and
ACHD has agreed to allow us to do this work prior to the development that we
plan along Eagle Road. Pat Doby would answer questions and talk about that in
more detail, but I will just tell you that the traffic light installation at Pine Street
and Eagle Road, the existing traffic light at Fairview and Eagle Road and the new
light that we've recently installed at Records Drive and Fairview Road will all be
synchronized. There are great benefits to the driving public with that
synchronization (inaudible) scientific explanation, we will give that to you. But we
have been assured, and ACHD is in agreement that this will greatly enhance the
traffic flow that's there now and what we anticipate in the future. We're proud of
this Gateway project in Meridian and feel the design and the flow of the Center
will be a model for the industry and for the City. We ask for your approval tonight
so that we may begin with the design and the permit process. I'll happily answer
any questions that you may have.
Corrie: Questions? Evidently not. Thank you. Anybody else in the development
side want to talk at this point?
Dolby: Mr. Mayor, Council members, my name is Patrick Dolby. I prepare the
traffic impact studies for the proposed Waf-Mart store. I also prepare the study
for the previous Crossroads Subdivision and also the Family Center addition.
There were extensive hearings for the Ada County Highway District and they
were very thorough improvements that were required of this development to
greatly improve the traffic flow in the area. There's three new - well,
reconstruction of the Fairview/Eagle intersection that's going (inaudible) this
summer with dual left-turn lanes and on the approaches and the new traffic
signal. This new signal's going into Records and then there'll be a signal going in
at Pine Street. In addition, there's an extra lane being added to Fairview Avenue
and auxiliary lanes (inaudible) being added to those intersections. The system
will have the capacity to accommodate all the new traffic from this development,
and the internal circulation within the project has been designed, laid out, to
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minimize the impacts on the adjacent Crossroads residential area. There is
sufficient room provided for trucks and (inaudible) loading docks, and there is
ease of access from the (inaudible) system to those facilities so as to preclude
any cut-through traffic going through the subdivision especially from the
commercial trucks. That's just a sort of general overview of some of the traffic
issues that we dealt with previous to this hearing, and if there's any questions
that come up that need a response from the public or if there's any questions
from this Commission, I'd be happy to answer them now.
Corrie: Okay. Thank you. Questions from Council?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: All right. Any other public testimony?
Trosclair: Mr. Mayor, Council members, Kevin Trosclair, 4260 Venture Circle,
Meridian, Idaho 83642. Just a few questions on this subdivision. If we could
turn this back on. I guess one question in general, living in that subdivision on
Vesta Venture, originally - with the increased traffic on Fairview, we're
concerned about school children and the bus routes currently. The Meridian
School District does not go into the subdivision. We're just concerned about the
children's safety with the buses stopping on Fairview. So we have those
questions and would like those addressed by the School District if possible.
Another concern that we have, looking at this plan, is the buffer zone here on the
east side of the bordering the new Venture Street. What would be the plans
there for buildings and/or building, and if there would be access from that buffer
zone onto Venture, whatever the building might be in that area as far as
increasing traffic in that intersection. Also to just in general, the extension of a
new street of Venture, what exactly does that entail? How far does it go? What
is the future plans for Venture beyond the store? Another question is the - I see
the most easterly entrance on Fairview into this proposed site, what does that
access primarily for? What our main concern in our subdivision is being able to
turn left out of our houses onto Fairview. With this increased traffic flow, is there
going to be blockage there that we can't get out of our subdivision with a left-
hand turn? So those are the questions that we have and would like to know if
there's any proposed in the future, any proposed traffic lights at Venture with this
development and just like to see those addressed.
Corrie: Okay. Anyone else from the public?
Hill: Mr. Mayor, Council members, I'm Emery Hill. I live at 1211 North
Legislative Way, Crossroads Subdivision, Meridian. I do have some concerns
here. First of all, I'd like to say that I'm not against Wal-Mart. I'm just against
where they're putting it. I believe that anyone of you if you had a Wal-Mart store
going in next to you that you'd be standing right where I am doing exactly what I
am. As a matter of fact, I admire Sam Walton (sic) and what he's done with that
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store. He's quite a great man for what he's done. But in my opinion by putting
Wal-Mart in there, it devaluates my property, it devaluates the neighb"orhood, and
our subdivision is now being completely encircled by commercial development
and apartments. We only have two ways in and out of that subdivision: Records
and Eagle Road. One of my concerns is traffic cutting through our subdivision off
of Records off of Wal-Mart, and I know I've heard it said, they won't cut through
there. Well, just from the Texas Roadhouse being on the corner of Records and
Fairview, they're already cutting through our neighborhood. We have a stop sign
at Records and Florence that is run quite often during the day and night. Then I
have a concern about the truck traffic and forklift traffic on the loading docks. I
have driven trucks for probably 30 years and equipment just as long, and I don't
care if those docks are backed up to Fairview. When you get equipment and
trucks clanging around there, you're going to hear them in our subdivision. So if
you do pass this, I would hope that you put a limit on an early night, what time of
night they have to end and what time in the morning they have to start. Also, if
you pass this, I believe Meridian has an ordinance that you can't have over six-
foot high fences. I would ask that you bypass that and on the south boundary
that there be at least an eight-foot high fence, solid fence, with a 20-foot buffer
and mature evergreen trees. The reason I say evergreen trees is because they
cut the noise. If you plan ash or something like that, and this is a proven fact,
when they lose their leaves, that noise comes right through there. With
evergreen trees, they're there all the time and it blocks the noise. We are
concerned about the traffic in there and what's going to happen. It's - I disagree
with Mr. Durkin that if they put it somewhere else that it would increase traffic. I
mean, 2,000 cars is 2,000 cars no matter where you put it. We would prefer, and
when I say "we" I'm speaking for three of my neighbors also. We would prefer
that it be somewhere else away from our subdivision. Also, the traffic light - if it
is synchronized with the Records traffic light, somebody better fix it because it is
not synchronized. Trust me. Another concern about the traffic is getting onto
Fairview. Like this gentleman said, from Venture Street, cars coming out of the
Shapka and Wal-Mart parking lot, there has already been one death from a car,
from a pickup coming out of the Shapka parking lot that bypassed the stoplight
and went out of one of the other little exits onto Fairview. A pickup hit a car and
killed a person. Already. Just from that. We ask that there be at least a 20-foot
buffer strip between the solid wall and their parking lot if it does pass. We're just
very concerned about devaluation of our property. Nothing against this fine
gentleman. I'm impressed with what he brought here, to tell you the truth, but to
put a Wal-Mart next to my house, to me it cheapens ,the neighborhood. Like I
said, I'm sure that everyone of you would be standing right where I am if there
was a Wal-Mart going next to your house. I think that's about all I've got to say
except that my neighbors, of course, there are neighbors that don't care if this
comes in. As a matter of fact, one lives right on the corner of Records and
Florence. We've talked to him. But there are several neighbors that have
already said that they're going to sell. I know if I do that this Wal-Mart that's
going in here, I would not have bought in that subdivision. It's not your fault. Not
anybody's fault but mine. But we have been lied to from day one about this
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shopping center. We knew that Shopko was going in there. We knew that there
was going to be some other development down along Eagle Road and some
more along Fairview. We were told that where Waf-Mart is proposed now that
that was zoned for home sites and then we were told that small office buildings.
In back of us where the apartments are going in, we were told that that sod farm
was going to stay there no matter what. Like I said, it's not your fault. It's my
fault for believing people. I got to go on record to say that, Mr. Mayor, I think
your zoning commission is out of hand. I sat through zoning things and watched
them. Everything that a developer or a contractor or anybody that wanted to
build brought before that zoning commission with a few minor changes have
passed no matter what the opposition. I think you really need to look into them. I
do thank you for your time, and I appreciate it if you have any questions. I'd be
willing to answer them.
Corrie: Questions of Council? Thank you. Anyone else from the public that
would like to issue testimony? Okay. Hearing none, comments from the
developer on the questions that were raised.
Durkin: I have a couple of an'swers to some of the questions. One of the
questions was what are the plans for Venture Street. Venture Street will be
installed by us, paid for by us, and extended to the south line of the property line.
The future plans for that are not clear to me, but my understanding is that it will
be extended by Bill Clark in some other application that he has in front of you.
The only thing that I know and that I have control over is what is (inaudible) that
we're doing. I suspect that having done this type of thing, I suspect that the day
will come when that will be connected to Pine Street one way or another. I don't
know if it will be a straight line or waived (inaudible) but that would seem to fit the
ACHD's pattern. The driveway that one of the gentlemen was talking about
closest to Venture Street, I want to call it the eastern most driveway by Wal-Mart.
Maybe, Tom, you could point to that for me? That driveway, that access point is
approved by ACHD as a right-in / right-out, so the truck traffic that delivers to the
Center will be going out that driveway, and they'll be taking a right-hand turn onto
Fairview Avenue. I might add as it relates to truck noise and truck use, the vast
majority of the merchandise delivered to this store is delivered by Wal-Mart
trucks owned by Wal-Mart and Wal-Mart employee drivers. In the grocery end,
they get some what they call vendor deliveries, Hostess Cupcake truck and those
types of things. They're quick in and out, but the major, the bulk of the deliveries
are done by Wal-Mart employees. You know, the comments made about the
name of the tenant, I'm sorry that people feel that way. It's not likely that a City
would or should approve a project for Nordstrom's and not for Wal-Mart, and I
don't think that's appropriate requests. Wal-Mart is a tremendous community
neighbor. They're active in the community. They participate in every level of
activities in the community, and I really think that people that are concerned that
they're going to cheapen them will find that they will be a responsible neighbor.
They're not a Nordstrom's, but they serve a lot of people. I shop there. I
wouldn't be surprised if some of you do, and they're a fine organization. One of
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the comments about access from our development onto Venture Street. At this
time we haven't asked for any access. There will not be any access from the
Wal-Mart store. But let me just walk over to the plan. There's a six-foot high
masonry wall. My point of clarification on that. Six-foot high. When we built the
six-foot high masonry wall in the first phase of the Center, there was a little
discrepancy about where we were measuring from. We knew what we had in
mind, and the neighbors knew what they had in mind, and we never really
discussed it until the wall was built. After the wall was built, we came back in and
added two feet so that it's now an eight-foot high wall in most of those areas.
The difference there is the lot elevations are higher, significantly higher than the
parking lot elevations. I don't expect that to be a problem matter of concern here.
If it is, that's a matter - that's something that we fixed with residents' requests.
We'll do it again here. But I don't think it's a good idea to make that a condition
today when that information isn't known. I can commit to you and the residents
that had the request that if the elevations, whatever we end up with here, we will
- it's our intention to build a wall that's six feet higher than our parking lot area. If
it needs to be added to at a later date, we'll do so. We are installing a six-foot
wall all along Venture Street which we think will solve the serious comment about
separation of non-compatible uses. There's a pad here that there might be a
circumstance in the future. It's a very small property that we would have a
driveway access here. For now, for the people that live over here, is that where
you live, sir? Up in this area? If you - there's kind of a circle driveway through
here. So what you see here is the eastern half of that circle - that will then tie
into Venture Street. We would be allowed an access point here with ACHD, but
we have to go through the hearing process to get that. We haven't asked for that
now, and we don't expect to. But Wal-Mart will have no access. There'll be a
block wall protecting that along Venture Street. Couple other comments
regarding the truck docks. The truck docks are completely protected. They-
Wal-Mart - neither Wal-Mart nor Shopko nor any of the stores in the Center that I
am aware of would on any kind of routine basis operate a forklift or anything
outside. Their inventory's delivered to the store. The dock's sealed - a
protected dock, and all of that inventory handling is all inside the building. In
addition, there is a high wall between where the trucks do back up to the dock
and the potential of residential area to the south, and I want to remind you that
the area to the south of that side of the store is now vacant field, Bill Clark is
proposing and planning an apartment development there, and we'll have that in
front of you at some future date. He's been keenly aware of our plans and is in
full support. The request from the neighbor that we do a 20-foot landscape strip
between the wall and the parking lot is - it's a good request, but what we've
proposed and submitted to you is 31 or 32 feet, so it's even greater than that.
Regarding the mature trees, the landscaping plan would be similar to the existing
Crossroads. I just want you to know that at another hearing we had several
months back and some of you were here, we had the Land Group Landscape
Architects talk about the danger of having one species or another run all along
the wall. If a disease hits one end, it's a better idea to mix the species along
there. At that point, we're going to rely on the Land Group doing the design and,
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in fact, we've already submitted - it'll have a mixture of species. But they are
mature. Just a last comment I have; it's a big number, but the traffic plan, the
traffic count for the overall shopping center as submitted to you a year ago, as
approved by ACHD, the roads have been and continue to be improved to
accommodate this, the total traffic count for the entire shopping center at full
build-out is anticipated to be about 28,000 cars a day. So it's essential. If you
take the 206,000 square-foot component out and move it down the street, there's
still going to be 28,000 a day at this shopping center because something else will
go in there. By taking out what we had planned and inserting this component, it
raises, it effectively raises the traffic for this center to 30,000. I'm kind of
rounding numbers here just to make my point. But if you were to build this
building across the street or in an area that was disassociated with this shopping
center, you could expect 12,000 to 15,000 cars a day just going into that building
if it didn't have the benefits of the overall center. So keep in mind the planning
that we promised you that we'd do. When we first brought this to you, we told you
we'd plan it and plan it wisely. That plan is in place and we're real confident with
it. I'll happily answer any other questions that you have.
Bird: Mr. Mayor. Larry, the one gentleman brought up the delivery time. I don't
know how you worked out with Shopko. I don't believe they're being delivered in
the middle of the night, are they?
Durkin: They're not. That's another point, too, I should have answered on that.
The - I think a lot of people think that this particular store will have just - the
average semi delivery - it averages 18 a day for this store. Again, there's a lot of
small vendor trucks that deliver, but there is 18 semi deliveries a day. And we
would expect the only ones that would be using the drive along the south
property line would be the - we expect most of those would be the food ones and
the general merchandise deliveries would be coming in off of Fairview Avenue
right about where that cursor is right now. Those docks on the northeast corner
of the building, those are the general merchandise non-perishable. The docks on
the south side of the building, that's the grocery delivery section. I guess my 18-
trucks-per-day number comes from the Fred Meyer store. That's how many
trucks they have on an average day. It's a comparable type of store. That's an
average workday. As far as the hours of shipping and receiving, there aren't any
in place on an existing center right now. There aren't any hours of operation in
place in this center. The only requirement that I'm not certain of the wording, but
the only requirement in place now is that the stores post their shipping and
receiving hours so that they don't get a truck driving up and just sitting there
while the time - again, that comes back to the point that the deliveries to this
store are far more controlled than they are to any of the other stores in the
Center. I think we've all seen Wal-Mart Sams trucks driving down the highway.
They're owned by Waf-Mart, the drivers work for Waf-Mart, and I have a high
regard for the trucking industry. It's a lot different when you have Yellow Freight
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These people are employees of the company, and the manager of the store can
control them if there's a concern.
Bird: It won't be a 24-hour?
Durkin: I don't know that but I could ask.
Bird: I've got another question. I don't know how close of a scale that site plan
is, but how are you going to get semis in and backed into those docks down on
the southeast corner? They don't come around the south side. Is there enough
room to turn a semi in? Like I say, I don't know how close that scale is.
Durkin: I was surprised of that, too. I think it might be - Tom, can you put up
that other plan? At least give - The plan that you're looking at is the plan that
was resubmitted last Friday. It reflects the conditions set at the Planning and
Zoning meeting. The modifications you see on there were the ones that were
requested at that hearing. In answer to your question on how they do that, that's
an area where my expertise fades away, but the engineering company that was
here at the last meeting or the meeting before, I don't remember the young lady
that addressed this group, that was presentation of how the general merchandise
trucks get in. But how they do it, I really don't know the answer.
Bird: When you get the scale - yeah. There's enough room. You're okay. They
don't have to come in the south lane. Answered my questions.
Corrie: Any other questions? Okay. Thank you, Larry.
Durkin: Thank you.
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Corrie: Well, give you a couple minutes. You're not supposed to, but-
Hill: Well, just to answer his - some of his stuff. I do still have a question about
the noise of the trucks. They have a grocery store that those trucks, a lot of them
have to be refrigerated, and a refrigerated truck has a motor on the outside that
runs constantly, and if you don't set a time limit, especially in the morning, you've
seen and I've seen those trucks come into grocery stores at four and five o'clock
in the morning unloading their stuff. I think there needs to be a time limit when
they can start unloading. Also, as far as the trees go, there are several different
species of evergreen trees that you can put in there. You don't have to put ash
trees. You've got all sorts of evergreens in there. But the trucks do come in at
four or five o'clock in the morning. I know they do. They unload. A lot of those
grocery store trucks are refrigerated trucks, and they're noisy. When we were
delivering out in the neighborhoods, we've actually had the police come up and
kick us out of the neighborhoods until seven o'clock in the morning. We could
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not start work until seven o'clock. And that's basically all we're asking for and to
just have a time limit when they can come in. If you don't, those guys can come
in there any time of night, any time of day that they want to. You've got to have a
time limit or they'll be there. Again, like I say, as far as the wall and the trees go,
I still think there should be an eight-foot wall and evergreen trees, and there are
several different species of evergreen trees they can put in. I thank you and
appreciate you letting me come up again.
Bird: Just a second. Let me ask Mr. Hill a question. Living out there, has
Shopko deliveries and stuff been noisy or excessive or anything?
Hill: Shopko is down the line from us where I live. It hasn't bothered our house.
I don't believe that they delivered at night, but they don't have a grocery store.
All they've got is little deli type thing in there. Mainly, I realize that the Wal-Mart
trucks come in there probably during the day, but those - if they have a full-blown
grocery store, I know that those bread trucks and those beer trucks and the other
trucks come in there at four and five o'clock in the morning, and that's what we're
concerned about. So we really think there should be a time limit on when they
can start and when they have to finish. Okay. Thank you.
Bird: Thank you. I got a rebuttal.
Durkin: I know we can kind of go back and forth here. I think I'd like to just show
this to the City Attorney so that he knows - (inaudible) The document that I have
in my hands is a conditional use, the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law
and recommendations to City Council when we went through this for the overall
shopping center. When we went through that process, there was a lot of concern
about noise. A valid concern and how it needs to be handled. I don't know of
another development company ever doing this, but we hired a noise consultant.
Some of you were here and remember that. We hired a noise consultant to
come in and make recommendations on how it can be the quietest development
and still meet the needs of the tenants. Those findings - that recommendation
was made to this group without any review of us. The guy flew into town, drove
from the airport here, walked in late, walked up to this podium and made his
presentation. That was the first time I ever heard it and the first time any of the
residents had heard it. I want you to know the Planning and Zoning Commission
and the City Council were so taken with his recommendations and his
presentation that they put the entire report that we follow all of his
recommendations -
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and that's in our Conditional Use Permit for the whole shopping center including
the heart of this one. We have asked for, volunteered, it's in our application that
we be required to meet these same noise standards for the overall shopping
center. That's in our testimony and it's certainly in our plans. We can't have a
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limit on the hours of operation for the deliveries. I want to read a few things that
would be important to the gentleman that just testified, and he may not be aware
of it because I don't think he lived there then. One of - I'm just reading this right
off of the report dated September 23, 1998. The engines of all trucks shall be
turned off once the trucks are at the truck dock. That's "A." B, trucks shall not be
allowed to park in the driveways between the stores and the Crossroads
development with their engines running for more than five minutes. C, trucks
with refrigeration units mounted on the trailers shall not be allowed to park
between the stores and the Crossroads development for any amount of time if
the refrigeration unit on the trailer is operating~ So if they pull up to park and
they're not at a loading dock, they have to turn it off. This is our Conditional Use
Permit for the overall center. So I've testified tonight as I've testified at our
annexation hearings, our Comprehensive Plan hearings, our plat hearings. We
are committing to you that we will meet the noise standards, we will meet or
exceed the noise standards set in this document, and we will meet or exceed the
landscaping and the buffering requirements in this document. The several
Planning and Zoning Commissions were more than satisfied that these concerns
met all of the noise concerns of the residents. The Council was satisfied a
number of times, and I think it's fair that the residents were satisfied, the
residents that were involved at that time were more than satisfied at that time.
So these are the noise controls, and they're the most strict I've seen in the
Treasure Valley in building a lot of different developments. So I will - if anyone -
I have one copy. I'll hand this to whoever would like it. If that needs to be made,
you have a copy -
Corrie: He's got it. We already have it.
Durkin: I hope that answers (inaudible) satisfaction to the gentleman's concerns.
I might just send him home with a copy of this tonight so he can review it. The
enforcement, just to remind you in the audience, the enforcement of that, if we're
in violation of that, it could cause a revocation of the Conditional Use Permit. So
it's a very serious step that I think you might recall that Home Depot went
through, and it could be a scary - Thank you.
Corrie: Anything else of Council?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Hearing no more, I'll entertain a motion on the - want to close the public
hearing now at this time.
Anderson: So moved.
Bird: Second.
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Corrie: Motion made and seconded to close the public hearing on Item No. 14.
Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Corrie: Further discussion? Okay. If nobody has anything, I guess I'll entertain
a motion for the request of Conditional Use Permit to have the attorney draw up
the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law and Order that - (inaudible)
You've got the conditions in front of you from Planning and Zoning and their
recommendations.
Bird: (inaudible) if the conditional use - that previous one, the original thing, that
takes (inaudible) over-
Corrie: It can unless you change anything (inaudible).
Anderson: Mr. Mayor. I guess one more question from Shari. We heard a lot of
testimony on the - any exceptions on the Findings of the recommendations? Did
you have any comments on those? Do you agree with the exceptions or you
disagree?
Stiles: You're talking about the ones that they had in their letter? I addressed
those previously. The only one I had the exception to was the 20-foot planting
strip because that is an ordinance requirement against incompatible uses.
Anderson: That would be which one in this letter?
Stiles: 1.17.
Anderson: 1.17.
Corrie: 1.17 is 10-foot wide. It's also in (inaudible) as well. Which one are you
talking about? 1 .17 says commercial use is not compatible with adjacent
cemetery use. A minimum of 10-foot wide planting strip is needed to (inaudible)
future roadway. He's saying along the west side of future Venture Street. Look
at the same thing?
Stiles: He's proposing 10 feet and the ordinance requires 20-foot planting strip.
Corrie: You're talking about 1.16 and he's got 1.17.
Stiles: Oh. I was looking at his - his reply.
Corrie: Okay. Looking at 1.16; is 1.16 - he's saying to take out that 31- to 41-
foot wide with a six-foot - he said he's proposing a 31-foot wide buffer. Is that
correct?
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Stiles: I didn't have an issue with 1.16. It was the 1.17.
Anderson: Basically, he's saying the same thing. The only thing he's saying
different is on the west side and you're saying along the future roadway is the
only difference. They're. both asking for ten foot.
Bird: She's asking for 20.
Anderson: Not in her Findings.
Bird: Oh. Okay.
Stiles: I'd need to double-check, but I don't think that's what our comments said.
I'll double-check. Our comment was 20 feet.
Corrie: So you're saying a minimum of 20 feet rather than 10.
Stiles: Yes.
Corrie: So that ten-foot should be twenty-foot wide.
Stiles: Yes.
Corrie: You had no other problem with the others, Shari?
Stiles: No.
Corrie: By adding per Ada County Highway District's approval?
Stiles: Yes, that's fine.
Corrie: 1.34 - they say - they add that there be a 36-foot wide street section
with curbs. You have 40-foot, we have 40-foot in this one. Which would you
prefer; 40 or 36?
Stiles: They'll have to comply with whatever Ada County Highway District
requires for that. If they regard it as just a local street, they may be able to
provide it in a 50-foot wide right-of-way, but that would be Ada County Highway
District's standards. Whatever those are for that public street.
Corrie: So do you need to follow District's staff - okay. Any other questions from
Council? Okay. With that in mind, I'll entertain a motion on the Conditional Use
Permit request.
Anderson: Mr. Mayor. I would make a motion that we approve the CUP request
for commercial expansion of the Meridian Crossroads Shopping Center for Wal-
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Mart, Developers Diversified Realty Corporation at the southwest corner of
Records Drive and Fairview Avenue subject to staff comments with the exception
of 1.16 should read "31 feet" instead of "31 to 41 feet;" and comment 1.17 would
require the 20-foot planting strip; and then on Items 1.28 through 1.40 add the
comment "or subsequently revised and approved by the Ada County Highway
District Commissioners;" and on Item 1.27 add the sentence "per the Ada County
Highway District conditions of approval;" and on Item 1.34 make that subject to
the requirements of Ada County Highway District and direct the City Attorney to
prepare the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law and the appropriate Order
of Decision.
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Motion is made and seconded as recorded. I'm not going to try to go
through that again. Good job, though. Is there any further discussion?
Anderson: I would like to make just a couple additional comments. I think -
appreciate all the comments from the public that they made on this particular
development, and I think those comments have been very useful and they've
helped create a much better overall plan, and I appreciate the developers
working with those concerns and addressing some of the traffic issues as well as
the noise and the buffering and some of those things, so I think it shows that the
process does work and appreciate everybody participating in that process.
Corrie: Further comments? Hearing none, roll-call vote, Mr. Clerk.
Roll-call: Anderson, aye; McCandless, aye; Bird, aye
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES
Item 15.
Public Hearing: CUP 00-002 Request for Conditional Use Permit
for expansion of existing church facility in an R-4 zone by Meridian
Friends Church - 1021 West Pine Avenue:
Corrie: It's this late, we might as well get the others done. Public hearing No. 15
is request for Conditional Use Permit for the expansion of the existing church
facility in an R-4 zone by Meridian Friends Church. I'll open the public hearing on
that and ask staff comments. You can come back now.
(Councilperson deWeerd returns to the forum)
Corrie: What, Shari?
Stiles: Mr. Mayor, Council, this is for an expansion of the existing Meridian
Friends Church on Pine Street. As they are located in an R-4 zone and it's a
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non-conforming use in that zone, they are required to go through the conditional
use process. What they have proposed will be an improvement to what exists
there. As you can see from the existing facility, there's little of any landscaping,
and they have proposed to bring their site up to ordinance requirements by
adding the additional landscaping. Staff would recommend approval of the
Conditional Use Permit with all staff and agency conditions.
Corrie: Thank you. Is the applicant here today?
Redford: Mr. Mayor and City Councilmen, we're looking for your approval for a
Conditional Use Permit for Meridian Friends Church. I'm Ken Redford. I live at
1011 West Pine in Meridian, and we're looking for approval for the Conditional
Use Permit. We're hoping to expand our facilities and bring those up a little bit;
modernize them a little bit. Expand the restrooms, bring those into conformity
with ADA regulations as well as our parking in terms of the landscaping as had
been mentioned. We've read the comments that were given to us and certainly
have no objections to anyone of those. They're all - we're in agreement with
each one of them.
Corrie: Okay. Questions from Council?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Okay. Thank you very much. Anybody else from the public like to issue
testimony? Okay. Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion to close the public
hearing.
Bird: So moved.
deWeerd: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to close the public hearing on Item No. 15,
the Conditional Use Permit. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in
favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Corrie: Any other comments?
Bird: I have none.
deWeerd: I have none.
Corrie: I'll entertain a motion on the request for the Conditional Use Permit for
expansion of the existing church facility in an R-4 zone by Meridian Friends
Church.
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Bird: Mr. Mayor. I move that we approve the request for Conditional Use Permit
for the expansion of the existing church facility in an R-4 zone by the Meridian
Friends Church at 1021 West Pine Avenue and for the counsel to prepare the
appropriate Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law and Decision of Order.
deWeerd: Second.
Corrie: Motion's made and seconded to give the request for Conditional Use
Permit in favor and have the attorney draw up the Findings of Facts and
Conclusions of Law and Order on the request. Any further discussion? Mr.
Clerk, roll-call vote, please.
Roll-call: Anderson, aye; deWeerd, aye; McCandless, aye; Bird, aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Item 16.
Public Hearing: Adult entertainment ordinance relating to zoning
schedule:
Corrie: The last public hearing is going to be the adult entertainment ordinance
relating to zoning schedule. This will be - Mr. Clerk, what's the number on this
one? 859?
Berg: It's just a public hearing right now, Mr. M~yor. We haven't approved it, but
that's -
Corrie: That's what it will be?
Berg: Yes.
Corrie: Okay. I'll open the public hearing on the adult entertainment ordinance
and staff comments first.
Stiles: This ordinance was prepared by legal counsel because we have nothing
in our ordinance that provides for adult entertainment businesses. You're aware
that we recently passed the licensing for adult entertainment businesses, but it
doesn't show up anywhere in our zoning schedule of use control. The City can't
outright prohibit them entirely in the entire area, so you do have to provide zones
where they could apply through a Conditional Use Permit. The ones that are
proposed are regional shopping center. We don't actually have anything zoned
that right now, but that is a zone that exists in our current ordinance. It's also
proposed that they could be allowed through a Conditional Use Permit in a C-G
zone and an industrial zone. They would not be permitted in particularly Old
Town, of course, and not in any residential areas. I think we do have one license
currently for - is that the same thing, Will? Adult entertainment license? Is that
renewed yearly or is it a renewed license? So the one that's existing now would
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be prohibited with passage of this ordinance? Maybe legal counsel has
something to add on this -
Nichols: Mayor, members of the Council, what zone is it located in now?
Stiles: Old Town.
Nichols: It may qualify as a non-conforming use within that zone even if you
approve this.
Stiles: Even when it comes up for renewal?
Nichols: I'd have to check that out. I really don't know the answer to that. It
certainly would be non-conforming use, at least through the time of the license.
Anderson: Mr. Mayor. I've got a question on the coding system on that thing.
guess - what is DR, design review, and do we- have such a thing?
Stiles: No.
Anderson: Did we just copy somebody else's ordinance? Is that where we got
that?
Stiles: I don't know where that came from.
Corrie: I don't think we have a design review. It's just been copied (inaudible).
Bird: I don't know where it's come up with the design review.
Corrie: We don't have one at this point.
Stiles: I wish we had one.
Corrie: It's there in case we -
Anderson: If it's not a process we have, well, I'm not sure we should be passing
an ordinance that requires it.
Corrie: Is that the only one we've got? (inaudible) Page 4 that's there?
Stiles: Oh. Permitted with design review. Even though we don't have a design
review. But that is how the current ordinance is. Public service facilities are
permitted with design review and those - if that came up, it would be a site plan
that we just presented to the Planning and Zoning Commission without a hearing
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Corrie: Any other questions?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: This is a public hearing. Anyone from the public like to enter testimony
on this? Mr. Berg.
Berg: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I just wanted to make a comment. Our adult
entertainment license has several different types. A, 8, C and D, I believe, so the
degrees are different, also. There are various stages of degrees of licenses,
conditions, in certain areas that you have the ability to approve Of not approve.
Corrie: Okay. Since there's no other public testimony, I'll entertain a motion to
close the public hearing.
Bird: So moved.
Anderson: Second.
COfrie: Motion made and seconded to close the public hearing. All those in
favor say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Corrie: Okay. I guess now we can have the Ordinance No. 859 - counselor,
what do we need to do here?
Nichols: Mayor, members of the Council, I would recommend that you put it on
the agenda for the next meeting as a regular agenda item to come up and
hopefully by that time I'll have the answer to your license question.
Corrie: Okay.
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, I guess it is an amendment to your
zoning ordinance so there would need to be some sort of Findings however brief
to support the ordinance.
Corrie: Than I'll entertain a motion for the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of
Law on the public hearing.
Bird: Mr. Mayor. I move that we have the attorney draw up the Findings of Facts
and Conclusions of Law and Decision of Order regarding Ordinance 859, the
adult entertainment ordinance related to zoning schedule.
Corrie: Okay. Do I hear a second?
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Anderson: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to have the attorney draw up the Findings of
Facts and Conclusions of Law on the public hearing Item 16 for Ordinance No.
859. Any further discussion?
McCandless: Mr. Mayor. At the risk of sounding pretty dumb, I really don't know
what we're voting on here.
Corrie: We're voting on to have the Findings of Facts of the public hearing
brought to us and then we will, at the next meeting, vote on the Ordinance. Then
if we approve the Findings of Facts that you have on this public hearing, then
we'll also vote on Ordinance No. 859, if that be the number, at that time to
implement the new adult entertainment business section of the Conditional Use
Permit. So, in other words, we have to have the findings - what we found out in
this public hearing just now. 1t'1I have her testimony and nobody else did - so
we're having the attorney draw up those Findings.
McCandless: So this is strictly to figure out a zoning for - in case we are ever
asked to approve - okay.
Corrie: We'll put the ordinance on at the next meeting as well.
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, Councilwoman McCandless, what
it does is it plugs into your existing zoning schedule where these things are
allowed as and how they are allowed. They're only allowed as conditional uses
and only in these specific zones. Right now, because you don't have it in your
zoning schedule, technically there is no zone within which it is allowed, and the
1st Amendment requires that you have to make some provision within your
zoning ordinances for these uses.
McCandless: I see. Thank you.
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor, can we just keep it in the RSC? We don't have that zone,
so can you just limit it to one zone?
Nichols: Councilwoman deWeerd, Mayor, members of the Council, I am painfully
aware of this adult entertainment stuff because of my stint in Nyssa where they
have a complete nude bar, juice bar, and so I am more familiar with this thing
than I ever wanted to be, and, basically it boils down to you have to provide some
place for these kinds of businesses. There was a town of Medford,
Massachusetts, who basically constructed their zoning in such a way that there
was only one city block in town in which it was an allowed use, and there were no
vacancies in any of the buildings in that particular block, and they - the whole
ordinance was struck down because it was so restrictive. You have to make
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some provision for these uses. Just be thankful you're not in Oregon where
you're not allowed to take into account community standards and other things.
deWeerd: But do we really have to have it in three different zones? If you just
have it in industrial, at least you don't have residential nearby. Do we have to
have three zones for this? I mean, at least industrial is more isolated than C-G.
And there's still opportunity if that's the issue here. How did we get to the three
different zones?
Stiles: I don't know.
deWeerd: Can we just offer the RSC and the industrial zone and not offer it in
commercial general?
Nichols: If I may comment, Mayor, members of the Council, Councilwoman
deWeerd, if you get a regional shopping center, do you want this to be an
allowed use in that?
deWeerd: No. But they'd have to come for a CUP, so they wouldn't want to ruin
their whole project just for one store.
Nichols: I think the issue is they have a tenant that wants to go in. They've got
the existing building. It's the use, not the building.
deWeerd: Well, can we just have it in "I", then?
Nichols: It boils down to the question of how much inventory do you have in the
industrial zone; are there places available within an industrial zone within which
this kind of business could locate; if there's enough space, yes, some - there's a
variety of theories about how you regulate these kinds of businesses. Some
places they take the combat zone type approach where you want it in one
concentrated area so the police can know where to go and watch for things.
Some places say you've got to keep them spread out so you don't have these
folks congregating in one area. So as long as there is space available for these
uses, I mean, you do have a Conditional Use Permit process which does allow
you to say it's not permissible to have this next door to the kiddy store or
whatever the thing might be.
deWeerd: And you won't have a kiddy store in an industrial zone.
Nichols: Unless you have some non-conforming uses of some sort.
deWeerd: Chief Gordon, do you have any-
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Corrie: Okay. If you want to do Findings of Facts that show up as three zones?
Bird: That's what the motion was.
Corrie: Okay. All right. We'll have roll-call vote then. Questions called -
RoIl-calI: Anderson, aye; deWeerd, nay; McCandless, nay; Bird, aye
Berg: Two-two tie, Mayor Corrie.
Corrie: Let me get this - okay. I'll vote aye.
MOTION CARRIED WITH TIEBREAKER: THREE AYES, TWO NAYS
Corrie: Then we can come back and you can decide if you want to keep the
Findings of Facts that way. We'll get it on the agenda. You can come back and
discuss it.
Item 17.
Department Reports:
B.
City Engineer - Gary Smith
1. Meridian Transportation Task Force Committee - 1999 Report:
Smith: Thank you, Mayor, Council members, first item is a report on the Meridian
Transportation Task Force Committee. I have submitted to you minutes of their
meeting that was held on December 15, 1999, and out of that meeting came a
discussion of transportation projects within the City of Meridian and adjacent to
the city proper. Very last page of the minutes is a priority based listing of
transportation projects, and the reason this is before you is that the City needs to
establish a listing of projects with COMPASS so that they can insert the projects
in the TIP, the Transportation Improvement Program, that they then sent on to
ITD for funding purposes. And I don't recall the timing for this before COMPASS.
I did call and talk to Ali Bonakdar about it, and he said they would like to have an
indication from the Council as to what projects you would like to see prioritized
with them for the TIP.
Corrie: Are you recommending all 13, then, Gary?
Smith: That was the recommendation of this committee, yes, sir.
Corrie: Which it does have the overpass at Linder and Locust Grove in there
which we will be discussing Thursday.
Anderson: Mr. Mayor. I have a question, Gary. On all the projects that relate to
the interstate, the Ten Mile interchange, the Linder Road overpass, the Locust
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Grove overpass and widening Meridian interchange, have we as a City prioritized
those four separate things so that we can tell the State Highway District that this
is our No. 1 through 4 priorities, because it seems like we ought to be doing that.
Smith: Well, Councilman Anderson, this is a prioritized listing just based on the
transportation committee's ideas. What you actually submit as Mayor and
Council, that's up to you, to them for priority of projects. The Transportation
Committee looked at the city - total city, not only the city proper, the city limits,
but also areas outside the city limits primarily, of course, they're in the city limits,
but as Mayor said, we had the interchange and the overpasses. as an Item No.4
on our priority list. That was just a consideration by the Committee as to what
the Committee felt. That Committee was composed of one Council person,
Cherie, was there, kind of a newcomer. Not yet sworn in but in attendance.
Planning and Zoning was represented. It was a pretty wide variety of
representation on the Committee, both public and private sector. Again, the
emphasis that you as the Council and Mayor want to see is what COMPASS
wants to hear. This is just a committee's suggestion. The other thing I might add
is from what I've heard on the interstate projects, because money is so tight and
because there are so many project requests, ITD is looking at partnerships on
those projects. That's money partnerships whether it's a city providing right-of-
way, a city providing funds for design, whatever it might be, but they're looking
for money partnerships just because of the restricted amount of funding that's
available and the great need and the corridor study that's been done - practically
done, isn't it, Mayor? Pretty much finished? They have several proposals that
include interstate interchanges and they have included in their corridor study the
Ten Mile interchange, they've included Linder Road and Locust Grove overpass
as their study.
Anderson: How about improvements to Meridian interchange?
Smith: I don't recall seeing improvements to Meridian interchange on it. We've
raised the question several times, and the interchange, the Meridian interchange
is a functionally obsolete structure. It's functionally obsolete because it has a
lateral clearance problem on the interstate itself; however, the structure, the
condition of the structure, the physical condition of the structure has a sufficiency
rating of 76, something like that, and that isn't a low enough rating for the
Highway Department to say we need to replace this structure because it's going
to fall down. They're dealing with sufficiency ratings on structure of less than 50
in other areas, and those are the ones that they're earmarking for replacement. I
doubt very seriously that that's going to get a very hard look. There are some
things that could be done there short of replacing the structure, but they're kind of
Band-Aid stuff. Your concerns have been, one of your major concerns have
been pedestrian safety crossing that structure, and at one time there were three
different alternatives that were put to the Highway Department by this
Transportation Committee, or I should say a request for alternatives, and they
came back with three alternatives. I don't remember what they were - two of
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them, one of them was a stand-alone pedestrian structure adjacent to it. One
was the addition of a pedestrian walkway on the existing structure. One of them
was a - it seems like a different striping program over the structure as far as the
lanes were concerned, and they ranged in costs from half a million dollars to a
hundred thousand. But the replacement of the structure itself, I think, is probably
going to be a hard sell.
Corrie: I was told by ITO that they would have to have the Ten Mile interchange
in before they could do anything in Meridian (inaudible) couldn't get (inaudible)
Eagle Road.
Smith: Mr. Mayor, that's exactly right. They'd have to have another alternative
for crossing.
Anderson: I have another question, and I guess this is probably more for the
Mayor. Don't we have - we have this Meridian transportation task force
committee, and isnlt there an ad hoc advisory committee to the Mayor on
transportation issues, too?
Corrie: That was one the Chamber of Commerce looked at with the
transportation and also the Historical - that's pretty much taken care of now.
Then it integrated into this transportation board. So that ad hoc committee is just
about finished with their recommendations. That's (inaudible)
Smith: It was just a one-year, single-purpose committee, one-time committee.
When I checked the priority, they had several different stages of priorities. Their
top-level priorities is included in within the priorities shown on this Task Force
Committee.
Anderson: Well, I guess I think these projects that you have on here are all
worthy projects, but I think when it comes to some of the interstate, what we as a
City needs to do is then prioritize these four projects and then discuss which
ones that we may be possibly willing to fund. But if we can't even come together
- we keep throwing these four projects out there. I would say it's safe to say that
none of them will get funded if we can't eVen tell them which one is a higher
priority for us and which one we'd be willing to fund. So I think we need to
probably, as a City, in one of our workshops, maybe sit down and see whether
we agree with those priorities you have or if we want to set some new ones and
then send those over to COMPASS or whoever it is that takes those forward
then.
Smith: Yes. They have to go to COMPASS and my only comment to that,
Councilman Anderson would be that it has to be done right away because they're
on a pretty tight time schedule to get this information to the TIP to get it before
the - then that goes before the Idaho Transportation Board and then they make
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the final decisions. So I wish I should have gotten a time schedule before
because I just don't know what their timing is.
Corrie: Probably No.4 should be No.1.
Anderson: Then out of those we need to decide which would be our priorities.
Corrie: I think the Linder Road overpass is probably what we're looking at now
because we're going to take 1.2 or 1.5 million to send that (inaudible) work
session that we're going to have to commit to that to ACHD and ITD so that they
will say okay, Meridian is committed to the overpass and this amount for right-of-
way buying and then they'll put it on their five-year program so we can get it
within two to three years and get it done.
Anderson: You said Linder but you probably meant-
Corrie: Right. Oh. I'm sorry.
When you refer to No.4, which project is that?
Corrie: It's the Ten Mile interchange, Linder Road overpass.
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Corrie: But the one we really want to get started on and make sure that it's in
that five-year study is that Locust Grove overpass.
Bird: It's got to be sooner than five years.
Corrie: Well, we've got to get it in that five-year plan now. The City is willing to
buy the right-at-way tor us - over a million dollars is put in there. The Ten Mile
interchange will come along quicker, too, if you have somebody say put two
million dollar on top of the City well. Any time the City says, okay, we'll give you
so much money, we'll put our money into it, that'll pump it up even higher for the
lTD.
McCandless: Just seems to me that the Ten Mile interchange is extremely
important because the City is growing out west so fast, and we can relieve traffic
downtown a lot if we had that.
Corrie: Right. But the City has to be able to commit some funds to that right off
the top.
Bird: So this is dealing with the federal boys, too, as well as the local level.
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Smith: Also, Mr. Mayor and Council, Steve Spickelmeier from ACHD did bring
some information to me on the Locust Grove overpass. He did some very
preliminary work on that and showed some right-of-way widths that were going to
be required and the impact that it would have on the existing facilities out there.
There is one subdivision on the northeast quadrant of that crossing that would be
impacted by that overpass, and juts the embankment to get it up above for
clearance. He also gave me some estimated construction costs for the structure.
That was as a result of your last joint meeting with the Highway District where
you requested that information. So I do have that, and I'll bring that to you
maybe at the next work session.
Bird: Do you want to put this on the schedule for the 29th as one item?
McCandless: Workshop?
Bird: Yeah, the workshop. One item?
Corrie: But you're going to have to be ready to commit the -
Bird: No, I mean to prioritize.
Corrie: Okay. Yeah, you can, but you're going to have to give ACHD Thursday
whether we're going to commit to buy some of the right-of-way for 1.2 million
(inaudible) --
Bird: I have no problem with that.
Corrie: -- and they'll put it on that five-year plan and bump it back up -
Bird: As long as we keep the money until they need it. We can make enough
interest as slow as they're going.
Corrie: And the preliminary hearing is what we're doing now. But you want to be
ready Thursday to commit that - to buying that right-of-way.
Bird: (inaud ible)
Corrie: (inaudible) Thursday - you've got to be pretty well ready -
Smith: Mr. Mayor, one other comment that I might make, and I think I made a
statement in my cover letter. I can't recall for sure, but with the Highway District
as with a lot of government agencies, the squeaky wheel gets the grease, and I
think that we have to be very aggressive in what we want as far as transportation
projects are concerned. I also feel and I express my feelings at one of the joint
meetings that we had two commissioners, Ada County Highway District
Commissioners that my personal feeling is that the traffic studies that are done
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by developers who hire their traffic engineers to do those for them and then in
turn submit those to the Highway District, those traffic studies should be done by
the Highway District, and if the Highway District wants to hire a consultant to do
that and then have the developer pay the bill, that's fine, but I think those traffic
studies need to be done by the Highway District rather than by someone else
and submitted to the Highway District. It just seems to me that they have better
control, it's - you could draw an analogy to a developer coming in here and
telling me that we have capacity in the sewer line because his engineer has done
a study on it. The only thing I can do is to do a study myself, compare the
results. I don't think the Highway District is doing that. I just continue to have
concerns, and I'm not a traffic engineer, so I can't base it on anything other than
just a gut feeling that the traffic studies that we're getting - just like the Bear
Creek, you know, where I question and get a letter back from the Highway
District Traffic Engineer that says we've got 200 sections out there that will have
a level of service of F, and that's dead, grid-locked, dead-stop, get-out-of-your-
car-and-Iock-it-up-and-walk. To me that's very serious. We didn't get that the
first time around. We didn't get that until I questioned them and asked them for
something. At our next joint meeting, I would be more than happy to raise my
hand and ask the Commissioners again to do that.
Corrie: Let's do it. You'll have the opportunity Thursday.
Smith: Anyway, off of that soapbox - I'll check with Ali tomorrow at COMPASS
and see what the drop-dead date is on getting a priority list back to them. If it's
sooner than your strategic planning meeting, I'll let you know.
Bird: (inaudible) department reports (inaudible) getting old.
Corrie: Okay. We'll do that, Gary. You've got a wastewater truck sewer?
2. WWTP Trunk Sewer - Creason Lateral Crossing:
Smith: Second item is a Creason Lateral Crossing with - let's see. I'm sorry.
It's the construction crossing. We have to get across there with a sewer line
before the water comes in, and we just got some estimates because we had a
ballpark estimate that we were going to need less than $25,000, so we just
solicited three estimates in accordance with the bid laws, and we did get a bid
from Brown Construction. Our recommendation is to accept that bid in the
amount of $23,702, and that would get us under the Creason ahead of the water
in the ditch and it would allow us to make connection to the headworks, the
wastewater plant and allow us to connect on - Mr. Bews to connect on to it and
head out through his property to Ten Mile Road. It's part of the no-name trunk,
and it will also connect to the north slew, eventually.
Bird: Mr. Mayor, this is real short. Gary, is that guy ready to go to work?
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Smith: Yes, sir.
Bird: The nylon pipe you and Brad think is fine?
Smith: Yes, sir.
Bird: I move that we enter into a contract with Brown Construction for the sum of
$23,702 and for the Mayor to sign and the Clerk to attest.
deWeerd: Second.
Corrie: Motion is made and seconded to Item No. 2 for the amount of $23,702
for the Creason Lateral Crossing. Any further discussion? All those in favor of
the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
3. Application / Request for Latecomers Fee Agreement for
Russell Hunemiller:
Smith: Thank you. The last item I have is just a request that we received from
Russell Hunemiller for the City to enter into a latecomers agreement for a
waterline extension that he made on Ten Mile Road south from Thunder Creek
under the railroad tracks to that storage facility that he built out there. He
installed a 12-inch water line that will serve other properties between his
development and where he connected, and this would just be an approval for us
to enter into an agreement. It's not an approval of the agreement; it's just an
approval to proceed with preparation of an agreement if you so desire.
Bird: Mr. Mayor. I move that we proceed with the approval of a latecomers fee
for the waterline down Ten Mile with Russell Hunemiller and to draft a sufficient
latecomers fee that doesn't give our bookkeeping gray hairs.
Anderson: Second.
deWeerd: That's a motion?
Corrie: Okay. Motion is made and seconded. Any further discussion? All those
in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Corrie: I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.
C. City Council President - Keith Bird
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1. Invitation to join Senior Citizens for lunch for the month of
March:
2. Items needed for the Tuesday, February 29, 2000 City Council
Workshop:
Bird: Just a second. I've got one thing. I'm sorry. We need to - the Senior
Center has asked us if we'd like to come to lunch during the month of March. So
if you'd like to pick a day, I think you can contact Will, he'll take care of the
contact, or do you want us to contact Donna Jones? What you want on the deal
- let's keep it to four good items for the workshop and get out of there at 9:00.
So what you don't get on the agenda, don't bring. Have it in to Will by the 22nd.
Remember the ACHD Joint Meeting Thursday the 17th, Will's giving you an
agenda, and everybody Friday morning at six a.m., there's a nice FFA
Appreciation breakfast at the high school.
deWeerd: Thank you, Mr. Berg.
Bird: Now do you want the motion, Mayor? I move that we adjourn.
deWeerd: Second.
Corrie: All in favor say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 12:50 A.M.
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FEBRUARY 11, 2000
MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL MEETING:
FEBRUARY 15, 2000
APPLICANT: DEPARTMENT REPORTS
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AGENDA ITEM NUMBER:
REQUEST:
CITY ENGINEER - GARY SMITH - MERIDIAN TRANSPORTATION TASK FORCE COMMITTEE
1999 REPORT
AGENCY
COMMENTS
CITY CLERK:
CITY ENGINEER:
SEE ATTACHED
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CITY ATTORNEY:
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CITY FIRE DEPT:
CITY BUILDING DEPT:
CITY WATER DEPT:
MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT:
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RECEIVED
FEB 1 1 2000
'OITY OF MERIDIAl\
To: Mayor Corrie
From:Gary D. Smith, PE
CC: file
Date: 02/11/00
Re: Meridian Transportation Task Force Committee -1999 Report
Mayor: I noticed in my file for this project that I haven't heard anything on the Meridian
Transportation Task Force Committee's submittal of needed transportation projects, which I
transmitted to you and the Council during the last week of December 1999. I telephoned
COMPASS to see if they had received anything and they said they have not
City consideration of this report is, of course, up to you and the City Council. I can only
assume that COMPASS will react more favorably on our transportation project desires if they
have some official word from you and the Council for inclusion of these projects into the
Transportation Improvement Program (TIP).
For your review, I am attaching a copy of the original report along with a copy of a follow-up
memo that I previously sent. If you feel it is appropriate, I would request that this matter be
placed on the next available City Council agenda for review and comments. Thank You.
Regards,
Gary .f
From the desk of. . .
Gaxy D. Smith, PE
Meridian City Engineer
Meridian Public Works Department
2(X) li Carlton St, Suite 100
Meri~ Idaho 83642-260)
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Memo.
To: Mayor Corrie
From: Gary D. Smith, PE
CC: file
Date: 01/12/00
Re: Meridian Transportation Task Force Committee
Mayor: During the last VJeek of December 1999, I distributed a report to you and our Council
members. concerning the recommendations of the referenced committee from their annual
meeting held on December 15, 1999. After the Council meeting of January 4.2000, Tammy
deWeerd asked that I also distribute a copy of- the report to Chief Gordon and to Chief
BoVv'ers, which I did the following day.
Before distribution of this report to you and our Council, I sent draft copies to committee
members Terry Smith. Rich Allison and Keith Borup. Keith called to say he had no
comments and Terry called me with some comments, which I incorporated into the report. I
did not hear back from Rich. Terry also asked if last years Ad Hoc Transportation Committee
recommendations should be attached to this report I know that the Council talked about
combining the two reports last year. however I do not' know 'Nhat was actually done for a
transmittal to APA.
I think we need to let APA (COMPASS) know, in the very near future. what our desires are
concerning transportation projects in and around the City of Meridian so that they can
prioritize those projects in the ITD Transportation Improvement Program (TIP). From the time
of distribution of this report, I have only received comments from Chief Gordon as a result of
review by Captain Musser.
Anyvvay, in the essence of time, I request that the 1999 Transportation Task Force
Committee's report be placed on the next available City Council agenda for discussion
and action by the Council. As you and I know. COMPASS and ACHD have a lot of
requests for projects and it seems that our best chance of getting Fromthedeskof...
the projects we need is by being very aggressive in both of their
courts. I am making an effort to attend every Wednesday noon
meeting of the ACHD Commission so that they can see me and
Gary D. Smith, PE
Meridian City Engineer
Meridian Public Works Department
200 E. Carlton St., Suite 100
Meridian, Idaho Et3642-2600
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Fax: (~)887-1297
see the interest that we have in our transportation projects and that we have an interest in
what they are doing.
If you have any comments or questions please give me a call. I appreciate your help in
getting some comment(s) from the Council.
Regards, l
Gary )
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ROBERT D. CORRIE
Mayor
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(LITY OF MERIDIAN
PUBLIC WORKS / BUILDING DEPARTMENT
COUNCIL MEMBERS
CHARLES M. ROUNTREE
GLENN R. BENTLEY
RON ANDERSON
KEITH BIRD
GARY D. SMITH, P.E.
Public Works Director
MEMORANDUM
December 16, 1999
TO: Honorable Mayor and City Council
From: Gary Smith, PE
RE: Meridian Transportation Task Force Committee - Annual Meeting
Dear Mayor & Council: This Committee met the evening of December 15, 1999 at City Hall for
about 3 hours to discuss transportation related projects in and around Meridian. The Committee
reviewed the project priority lists that were developed last year (1998) by the Mayor's Ad Hoc
Committee and by this Committee.
This Committee consists of people from a broad spectrum of occupations and agency
representations and those attending are listed on the following page. The Committee had a
very good discussion concerning our transportation needs with comments from all in
attendance. After the meeting, several participants commented that this meeting was very
upbeat and productive. I think this reflects directly on those in attendance, particularly the
representatives from ACHD and lTD.
The following pages generally represent the discussions of the committee members during this
meeting. This information is being presented to you for your review and subsequent action. If
you approve this Committee's recommendations, they should then be transmitted to COMPASS
for their prioritization into the State of Idaho - Transportation Improvement Program (TIP).
If you have any questions please don't hesitate to calf on me.
200 East Carlton, Suite 100 · Meridian, Idaho 83642
Phone (208) 887-2211 · Fax (208) 887-1297
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CITY OF MERIDIAN
TRANSPORTATION TASK FORCE COMMITIEE
MEMBERS
Rich Allison (Citizen) 916 E. 1st St.; Meridian 83642 888-3349 0N)
AIi Bonakdar (COMPASS) 413 W. Idaho, Ste. 100; 83702 345-5274 0N)
Boise
Keith Borup (P&Z) 2090 E. Freedom Lane; 83642 884-1 092 0N)
Meridian
Jonathan Hennings (lTD) P . o. Box 8028; Boise 83707 334-8978 0N)
Elmer Kassens (Citizen) 735 W. Carlton; Meridian 83642 888-9653 (H)
Katey Levihn (ACHD) 318 E. 37th; Boise 83714 387 -6144 0N)
Pamela Lowe (ITD) P.O. Box 8028; Boise 83707 334-8303 0N)
Cherie McCandless P.O. Box 1132; Meridian 83680 888-4753 (H)
(City Council)
Malcolm MacCoy (Citizen) 1024 E. Dominica Dr.; Meridian 83642 887-7611 (H)
Gary Smith (City P.W~) 200 E~Carlton, Suite 100; Meridian 83642 887-2211 0N)
Terry Smith (Citizen) 713 E. Kingsford; Meridian 83642 888-6801 (H)
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MERIDIAN TRANSPORTATION TASK FORCE COMMITTEE
TRANSPORTATION ITEMS DISCUSSED
December 15, 1999
Gary Smith called the meeting to order at 7: 1 0 PM and thanked everyone for coming. Gary
introduced everyone around the table. The following projects from past meeting(s) were
reviewed with agency and individual comments:
Waltman Lane I E.1 st I Meridian Road Intersection.
Construction is scheduled for FY 2004 with design and right of way purchase scheduled for
FY 2002 and 20031 respectively. This is a delay of one year from where it was at our last
meeting. This project is presently included in the Transportation Improvement Program (TIP).
Committee feels this project needs to be re-set to where it was.
Park and Ride Lots.
The Overland/Eagle Road and Overland/Hwy 69 lots are to be built in FY 2000. They have
been moved back one year.
Storm Water DrainaQe Control.
ACHD has retained Civil Survey Consultants to complete a drainage study for the North
Meridian area as well as other areas in Meridian. City Planners and Engineer need to meet with
ACHD and their consultant to discuss sites for drainage retention/detention ponds. Discussion
again took place concerning borrow ditch drainage control in lieu of curb and gutter. Still needs
study. With the National Pollution Discharge Elimination System (NPDES) permitting process
taking effect for storm water discharge, this may be an alternative method of storm water
disposal with grassy swale treatment.
Five Mile Creek Pathway.
Nampa & Meridian Irrigation District (NMID) has reached agreement with City of Meridian on the
Pathway Use License Agreement City Engineer and Consultant will meet with ITD after
January 4, 2000 to review the requirements for update of the plans. Alsol City will contact
property owner Simunich for pathway easement.
Interchanae Beautification.
Discussion took place on filing an application for federal "enhancement" funds to beautify the
Meridian and Eagle Road Interchanges, with emphasis on Meridian Road. As discussed at our
last meeting, if we file an application we need to have a plan prepared and be prepared to
enter into a maintenance agreement with lTD. Applications are due February 18. The
application takes a lot of work. This application submittal would be for a project for FY 2003.
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Functional Classification Map.
COMPASS states this map has been updated.
Overlav Projects.
Katey Levihn (ACHD) will" provide a current listing of overlay projects to City Engineer.
Pine Avenue.
This improvement, from Eagle Road east and west, will probably be developer driven because
of the present development activity. ACHD has purchased some right of way and the property
owner south of Blue Cross is interested in the process to sell right of way for their half of the
roadway. ACHD lists Preliminary Engineering (PE) for FY2000 for the section from Eagle to
Locust Grove securing right of way (RIW) in FY2002 and construction in FY2003. The section
from Eagle to Cloverdale secures RNV in FY 2002 with construction in FY 2004. ACHD needs
to work with the development community to get this length of roadway built from Nola to
Cloverdale. This is a good example of a public/private partnership project. To further facilitate
traffic movement east-west, we also need to emphasize the Pine Street improvement from E.1st
to Nola.
Speed Limits.
The City Traffic Safety Commission will continue to monitor comments about city speed limits.
Police Chief, City Engineer and ACHD Traffic Engineer are on this committee. Some concerns
were expressed about continuity of speed limits, especially on arterial roads adjacent to city
limits. .
Traffic Calmina Devices.
ACHD has a procedure set up to handle requests for traffic calming devices. Darren Carroll
was referenced as a contact person at ACHD for information and application.
1-84 Interchanae at Ten Mile Road.
This improvement still ranks high in priority to provide Interstate access for North Meridian
residents. Overpasses at Linder and Locust Grove Roads are also of major interest to
connect the southerly areas of growth with Meridian's core area. Preliminary results of the
ITD sponsored Interstate Corridor Study have been distributed to Meridian Mayor and Council
for review. It has caused some controversy. Cost of an interchange was discussed at
somewhere between $15 and $20 Million (similar to Isaac Canyon). How can financing be
obtained? It is apparent that ITO looks more favorably to projects that have some local funding
of some type involved. ACHD will investigate the availability of using Impact Fees for local
fund match to help build the overpasses at Linder and Locust Grove Roads. ITD
estimates that a local match will probably need to be in the $2 Million dollar range, plus right of
way and design costs.
Bike Lanes.
We don't know what the new ACHO Commission's or City Council members attitude is
concerning bike lanesa We discussed an alternative of having a wider sidewalka
. Committee still feels we need to have a mile of arterial road built each year to facilitate traffic
movements from the rapid growth in our area. We are still behind.
. We again discussed utilizing side street grassy swales in lieu of curb and gutter to control
street drainage discharge that will be subject to conditions of an NPDES permit. Committee
asks that ACHD look at this alternative and either advance the proposal or toss it out
. We discussed the possibility of street light installation at county section line road
intersections, especially where the north-south through roads intersect the east-west roads.
How can these be funded? Katey (ACHD) will see if this concept can be funded through a
school bus lighting program. There are several hazardous intersections in the county that
are claiming lives each year, where lighting. will help.
. Committee discussed truck traffic through downtown Meridian and its impact on our
infrastructure and traffica Katey said that Mark Clough (ACHD) has put a truck traffic
movement study together and she will send a copy of it to us. Mark Clough can also come
to City Council and make a presentation to them. This would probably be of benefit.
. ITD:
.:. Pam Lowe (ITD) discussed an Interstate improvement project of replacing pavement
joint material from Meridian Road east toward Boisea
.:. Status of replacing the Meridian Road Interchange. It doesn't look good because the
Sufficiency Rating is a little over 70, even though it can be classified as functionally
obsolete because of a lateral clearance restriction with an interstate travel lane.
.:. We talked about pedestrian safety crossing the Meridian Road Interchange. Pam said
they are looking for a partnership in the expense of constructing some type of safety
measure. Concern as to how money for this type of project can be obtained. Committee
discussed possibility of a shuttle service for pedestrians needing to access water park.
.:. Much concern was expressed about the east off-bound interstate ramp intersection with
Meridian Road. Safety Droblem. Michael Gars, Traffic Engineer with ITO-District 3, is
doing intersection studies in District 3. He will have developed a priority list in April.
Gary Smith will call Pam Lowe in mid-January about this survey.
Other Committee Comments:
o Committee is very concerned for the need to construct right turn lanes for east and west
bound traffic at the intersection of Franklin Road and Eagle Road. This intersection is
severely congested and needs immediate help. We believe there is available right of way
for construction of these lanes. ACHD will investigate to see what can be done~
o Committee requests that ACHD submit a roadway maintenance plan for Meridian for the
next 5 years.
o Committee is interested to know how the Impact Fee monies collected by ACHD are being
spent on projects in Meridian. ACHD is requested to submit an audit to the City of these
impact funds collected and spent.
o Committee felt it was important to maintain the projects on our list from the past years
report.
o Committee feels it is important to move forward with emphasis to construct the Ten Mile
Road Interchange and the overpasses at Locust Grove and Linder Roads. Funding is a
major problem and it is apparent that ITD will look at local fund availability to help prioritize
this type of project. Mayor Corrie and Meridian City Council members have had discussions
with ACHD concerning this issue as recently as their joint meeting this month.
o Committee discussed the need for a right turn lane of north-bound traffic on E. 1st at Franklin
Road. This would also need to facilitate right turn truck traffic, which presently turns into
opposing lanes on Franklin to complete their turning movement. Storey Park land would
need to be dedicated to ACHD for the lane and relocation of the signal pole.
CITY OF MERIDIAN
1999 TRANSPORTATION RELATED PROJECTS
(Priority Based Listina)
1. Rebuild Locust Grove Road from Fairview to Ustick to 3 lanes. Design is done. RIW to
be purchased in FY 2000. Construction scheduled for FY 2001.
2. Rebuild Linder Road from Franklin north to Cherry Lane. Design scheduled in FY 2001 ;
RIW in FY 2002 and construction in FY 2003.
3. Rebuild Franklin Road from E.1 st to Eagle Road; concurrently rebuild Locust Grove
from Pine to Franklin Road. ACHD has $2.3 Million for purchase of right of way for this
rebuild. ACHD needs to start railroad approval for a new crossing of Locust Grove Road.
The existing railroad crossing of Nola Road will probably need to be closed.
4. Ten Mile Road Interchange I Linder Road Overpass I Locust Grove Road Overpass.
ITD representative says that their prioritization process for these projects will depend a lot
on whether or not the City of Meridian is able to contribute some funds. We are asking
ACHD to see whether or not Impact Funds can be used for this local match.
5. Rebuild Overland Road from Meridian to Eagle Road. The plans for this project have
been done for quite some time. As the sewer and water line extension project under 1-84 is
completed we will see building pressures at the intersection of Eagle and Overland. The
capacity of this length of roadway must be increased.
6. Replace Meridian Roadll-84 Interchange structure with pedestrian transfer capability.
Submit this project for "enhancement" funding with safety concerns as justification.
7. Rebuild Meridian Road from Cherry Lane to Franklin Road to 3-lanes and preserve and
support the 80-foot wide right of way.
8. Rebuild Ten Mile Road from Pine to Ustick.
9. Rebuild Locust Grove Road from Ustick to Chinden.
10. Rebuild Pine Avenue from Nola to E.1st Street.
11. Construct Right Turn Lane at E.1 st for north-bound traffic turning at Franklin Road.
12. Overlay E.3rd Street from Franklin Road to Pine, including railroad crossing improvement,
to relieve truck traffic through Meridian on E.1st Street
13. Interchange Beautification. Ask ITO to be a sponsor of this project to facilitate its funding.
Requirements for this project are previously outJined in this report.
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CITY OF MERIDIAN
ORDINANCE NO. B 58
AN ORDINANCE FINDING THAT CERTAIN LAND LIES CONTIGUOUS OR ADJACENT
TO THE CITY LIMITS OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, COUNTY OF ADA, STATE OF IDAHO;
AND FINDING THAT THE OWNER HAS MADE A REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION IN
WRITING TO THE COUNCIL; AND THAT SAID LAND BE ANNEXED TO THE CITY OF
MERIDIAN AND ZONING DESIGNATED RURAL LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT
(R-2); AND DECLARING THAT SAID LAND, BY PROPER LEGAL DESCRIPTION AS
DESCRIBED BELOW, BE A PART OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, COUNTY OF ADA, STATE
OF IDAHO; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES, RESOLUTIONS, ORDERS OR PAR1~S
THEREOF IN CONFLICT HEREWITH; AND DIRECTING THE CITY ENGINEER TO ADD
SAID PROPERTY TO THE OFFICIAL MAPS OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO; AND
DIRECTING THE CLERIC OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN TO FILE A CERTIFIED COpy OF
THE ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE AREAS TO BE ANNEXED WITH ADA COUNTY
RECORDER, AUDITOR, TREASURER AND ASSESSOR, AND THE STATE TAX
COMMISSION OF THE STATE OF IDAHO, PURSUANT TO IDAHO CODE SECTION 50-
223 AND SECTION 63-2215.
BE IT ORDAINED BY THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
MERIDIAN, COUNTY OF ADA, STATE OF IDAHO:
SECTION 1. FINDINGS: That the following described land is COlltiguous and
adjacent to the City of Meridian, Idaho, and that the City of Meridian has received a writte11
request for annexation to the City of Meridian, Idaho, by the owner of said Property to-wit:
A parcel of lalld bei11g a portion of the East Fifteen Acres of the Southwest Quarter
Southeast Quarter and a portion of the Southeast Quarter Southeast Quarter, all
lyillg in Sectiol134, Township 4 North, Rallge I West, Boise Meridian, Ada County,
Idaho, said parcel being more particularly described as follows:
Commencing at a found 1/2" iron pin marldng the E1/4 Comer of said Section 34, T.
4N., R.1 W., B.M., Ada County, Idaho; thence S. 0017'35" W. (formerly S. 0012'W.)
2643.52 feet along the east boundary of the said SE 1/4 of Section 34 and alol1g the
centerline of Ten Mile Road to a found Brass Cap marldng the Section Corner
common to Sections 34 alld 35, T. 4N., R. 1 W., B.M., Ada County, Idaho a11d
Sections 2 and 3, T. 3N., R. I W., B.M., Ada County, Idaho and also lnarldng the
centerline intersections of said Ten Mile Road a11d Usticl( Road; the11ce N. 89043'00"
W. 1019.45 feet along the south boundary of the said SE 1/4 of Section 34 and
ANNEXATION AND ZONING ORDINANCE - 1
along the said cellterline of Usticl( Road to a point, said point being witnessed by a
set 1/2" iron pin which bears N. 37042'48" W. 31.72 feet, said point also marldng the
REAL POINT OF BEGINNING;
thence COlltinuing N.89043'00" W. 351.17 feet along the said south boundary of the
SE 1/4 of Section 34 and along the said centerline of Usticl( Road to a point, said
point being witnessed by a set 1/2" iroll pin which bears N. 0045'38" W. 25.00 feet;
thence N. 0045'38" W. 460.34 feet to a set 1/2" iron pill;
thence S. 37042'48" E. 584.06 feet to the point of beginning, containing 1.90 acres,
more or less.
Subject to any easements or rights of way of record or in use.
SECTION 2: That the above-desclibed real property be, and the same is hereby
annexed alld Inade a part of the City of Meridian, Ada County, Idaho.
SECTION 3: That the real property herein by this ordinallce annexed to the City of
Meridian hereinabove described shall be zoned Rural Low Density Residential District (R-2).
SECTION 4: That the City Engineer is hereby directed to alter all use and area maps
as "veIl as the official zoning maps, comprehensive plan and all official maps depicting the
boundaries of the City of Meridian in accordance with this ordinance.
SECTION 5: The zoning designation set forth in Section 3 of this ordinance is
subject to the terms and conditions of that certain Development Agreement by and between the
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City of Meridian and the owner of the land described in Section I dated the 15 -day of
;e~f-<<CVl,.~ ,~ZODD.
SECTION 6: All ordinances, resolutions, orders or parts thereof in conflict herewith
are hereby repealed, rescinded and annulled.
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SECTION 7: This ordinance shall be in full force and effect from and after its
passage, approval and publication, according to law.
SECTION 8: The ClerIc of the City of Meridian shall, within ten (10) days
following the effective date of this ordinance, duly file a certified copy of this ordinance and a 111ap
prepared in a draftsman manner plainly and clearly designating the boundaries of the City of
Meridian, including the lands herein annexed, with the following officials of the County of Ada,
State of Idaho, to-wit: the Recorder, Auditor, Treasurer and Assessor and shall also file
Silllultalleously a certified copy of this ordinallce and map with the State Tax C0111missioll of the
State of Idaho, all in compliance with Idaho Code S63-221S and SSO-223.
PASSED BY THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO, this /Sf-.t. day of
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APPROVED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO, this /S-l!1 day of
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ANNEXATION AND ZONING ORDINANCE - 3
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On this /5..1t day of h , 1999, before me, the undersigned,
a Notary Public i11 and for said State, perso11aI appeared ROBERT D. CORRIE a11d
WILLIAM G. BERG, JR., IG10Wl1 to me to be the Mayor and City ClerIc of the CITY of
Meridia11, Idaho, and who executed the vvithil1 instrument, a11d aclmowIedged to me t11at the
City of Meridian executed the saIne.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and affIXed Iny official
seal the day and year first above written.
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CERTIFICATION OF THE CITY CLERK OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN
To: The Recorder, Auditor, Treasurer and Assessor of Ada County, a11d
The State Tax Comlnission of the State of Idaho
I, WILLIAM G. BERG, JR., City Clerl(, of the City of Meridian, Ada COlll1ty,
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BEFORE THE MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
IN THE MATTER OF THE
APPLICATION OF HAWIGNS-
SMITH MANAGEMENT, INC.,
THE APPLICATION FOR
ANNEXATION AND ZONING
OF 4.34 ACRES AT THE
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FAIRVIEW AVENUE AND
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Case No. AZ-99-019
FINDINGS OF FACT AND
CONCLUSIONS OF LAW,
DECISION AND ORDER
GRANTING APPLICATION
FOR ANNEXATION AND
ZONING
The above entitled annexation and zoning application having come on
for public hearing on January 18, 2000, and continued to February 1, 2000, at the
hour of 7:30 o'clocl( p.lTI., a11d Shari Stiles, Pla1111ing and Zoning Administrator,
appeared and testified, and appearing and testifying 011 behalf of the Applicant was
Cli11t Boyle, and appearing and testifying with concerns or in opposition were the
following 11eighbors: Jay Jones, Dan Woodall, Jen11ifer McRoberts, and having
received the Recolnmendation to City Council of the Planni11g and Z011i11g
Commissio11 on this Inatter, and the City COU11Cil having duly c011sidered the
evidence and the record in this matter therefore mal(es the followi11g Findings of Fact
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW - Page 1
AND DECISION AND ORDER GRANTING APPLICATION
FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING/WALGREEN'S PHARMACY &
DRIVE-UP (AZ-99-019)
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and C011Clusio11S of Law, and Decision and Order:
STATEMENT OF LEGAL AUTHORITY AND JURISDICTION:
CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
Judicial Notice:
The Council may tal(e judicial notice of gover11ment ordinances, and policies,
a11d of actual C011ditions existing within the City and State.
Annexation:
1. The City of Meridian has authority to annex real property upon writte11
request for annexation and the real property being contiguous or adjacent to city
boundaries and that said property lies withi11 the area of city impact as provided by
Idaho Code Section 50-222. The Meridian City Code s 11-16 provides the City Inay
a11nex real property that is withi11 the Meridian Urban Service Planning Area which is
designated in the Comprehensive Plan City of Meridian adopted Decelnber 21, 1993,
Ord. No. 629, January 4, 1994, and as provided in Meridian City Code S 11-16-3.
2. The City Council exercises its legislative authority i11 the a1111exatiol1
and zoni11g of annexed land. Burt v. City of Idaho Falls, 665 P.2d 1075, 105 Idaho
65(1983).
Prior to annexation the City Council has requested and received a
recommendatiol1 from the Planning and Zoni11g Commission of proposed zoni11g
ordinance changes for the area to be annexed in accorda11ce with the notice a11d
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW - Page 2
AND DECISION AND ORDER GRANTING APPLICATION
FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING / WALGREEN'S PHARMACY &
DRIVE-UP (AZ-99-019)
heari11g procedures provided in Section 67 -6509, Idaho Code and concurrently or
immediately following the adoption of an ordinance of annexation, the City COllncil
shall amend the Planning and Z011ing Ordinance. [I.C. S 67 -6525J [Meridia11 City
Code S 11-16-1. J
Zoning:
3. The City of Meridian shall exercise the powers conferred upon it by the
Idaho Legislature i11 the "Local Land Use Planning Act" codified at Chapter 65 of
Title 67 Idaho Code which provides that the Council shall by ordinance establish
within its boundaries one or lTIOre zones or zoning districts in accordance with the
adopted Comprehensive Plan. [I. C. S 67 -6511 J.
4. The "Zoning Ordinance" of the City of Meridia11 applies a11d regulates
all development of land within the City limits and property outside the City limits
for which annexation has been requested. [Meridia11 City Code S 11-1-3.J
5. The City of Meridian has exercised its authority and responsibility as
provided by "Local Land Use Planning Act" by the adoption of the "Zoning
Ordinance" of the City of Meridian, Idaho, which provides for various zoning
districts. [Meridian City Code 98 11-1-11-21.J
5 .1 The "Zoning Ordi11ance" provides a zoning district (C-G) Ge11eral
Retail and Service Commercial District which is defined as:
[Meridian City Code S 11-7 - 2 1(. J
(C-G) General Retail and Service Commercial District: The
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW - Page 3
AND DECISION AND ORDER GRANTING APPLICATION
FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING/WALGREEN'S PHARMACY &
DRIVE-UP (AZ-99-0 19)
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purpose of the C-G District is to provide for comlnercial uses
which are customarily operated entirely or allnost e11tirely within
a building; to provide for a review of the impact of proposed
commercial uses which are auto and service oriented a11d are
located in close proximity to major highway or arterial streets; to
fulfill the need of travel-related services as well as retail sales for
the transient and permanent motoring public. All such districts
shall be connected to the Municipal water and sewer systems of
the City, and shall not constitute strip commercial developlnent
and encourage clustering of commercial developlnent.
5.2 The "Zoning Ordinance" provides for a "Zo11ing Schedule for Use
Control" for land uses in various established zoning districts for
permitted, use, conditional use and permitted accessory use.
[Meridian City Code S 11-6-1. J
5.3 The "Zoning Ordinance" provides for a zoning District Map
where the zoning districts established by the ordi11ance are
shown. [Meridian City Code S 11-6-1. J
5.4 The "Zoning Ordinance" provides for general procedures for the
initiation and process of zoning amendlnent applications
including notice and hearing procedures before the Pla11ning and
Zoning Commission and the City Council. [Meridia11 City Code 9
11-15-1 - 11-15-6.J
5.5 The General Standards Applicable To Zoning Ame11dme11ts
include the following [Meridian City Code 9 11-1S-11J:
5.5.1 Will the new zoning be harmonious with and in
accordance with the COlnprehensive Plan a11d, if not, has
there been an application for a Comprehensive Plan
amendment;
5.5.2 Is the area included in the zoning amendment inte11ded to
be rezoned in the future;
5.5.3 Is the area included in the zoni11g alnendlne11t intended to
be developed in the fashion that would be allowed under
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW - Page 4
AND DECISION AND ORDER GRANTING APPLICATION
FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING/WALGREEN'S PHARMACY &
DRIVE-UP (AZ-99-019)
the new zoning - for example, a residential area turning
i11tO commercial area by means of conditional use perluits;
5.5.4 Has there been a change in the area or adjacent areas
which Inay dictate that the area should be rezo11ed. For
example, have the streets been widened, new railroad
access been developed or planned or adjace11t area beil1g
developed in a fashion silnilar to the proposed rezone
areas;
5.5.5 Will the proposed uses be designed, C011structed, operated
and maintained to be harmonious and appropriate in
appearance with the existing or intended character of the
general vicinity and that such use will not change the
essential character of the same area;
5.5.6 Will the proposed uses not be hazardous or disturbing to
existing or future neighboring uses;
5.5.7 Will the area be served adequately by essential public
facilities and services such as highways, streets, police a11d
fire protection, drainage structures, refuse disposal, water,
sewer or that the person responsible for the establishlnent
of proposed zoning amendment shall be able to provide
adequately a11Y of such services;
5.5.8 Will not create excessive additional requirements at public
cost for public facilities and services a11d will not be
detrimental to the econolnic welfare of the cOlnmunity;
5.5.9 Will the proposed uses not involve uses, activities,
processes, materials, equipment and C011ditions of
operation that will be detrimental to any persol1s, property
or the general welfare by reason of excessive production of
traffic, noise, slTIol<.e, fumes, glare or odors;
5.5.10 Will the area have vehicular approaches to the property
which shall be so designed as not to create an interference
with traffic on surrounding public streets;
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW - Page 5
AND DECISION AND ORDER GRANTING APPLICATION
FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING/WALGREEN'S PHARMACY &
DRIVE-UP (AZ-99-0 19)
5.5.11 The proposed uses will not result in the destruction, loss or
damage of a natural or scenic feature of Inajor importance;
and
5.5.12 Is the proposed zoning amendment in the best interest of
the City of Meridian.
6. The City of Meridian has exercised its authority and responsibility as
provided by "Local Land Use Planning Actll, codified at Chapter 65, Title 67, Idaho
Code by the adoption of Comprehensive Plan City of Meridian adopted Decelnber
21,1993, Ord. No. 629, January 4, 1994.
Development Conditions:
7. The City is authorized by I.C. S 67-6511 A by the adoption of an
ordinal1ce to require or permit as a condition of rezoning that an ovvner or developer
mal(e a written commitment concerning the use or development of the subject parcel
which the City has enacted as a part of the "Zoning Ordinance" at Meridial1 City
Code S 11-15-12 and if the property is annexed and zoned Meridian City Code S 11-
16-4.
8. Since the an11exation and zoning of land is a legislative function, the
City has authority to place conditions upon the anl1exatio11 of land. See Burt vs. The
City of Idaho Falls, 105 Idaho 65, 665 P2d 1075 (1983).
9. The development of the annexed land, if al1nexed, shall meet al1d
cOlnply with the Ordinal1ces of the City of Meridian including, but 110t limited to:
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW - Page 6
AND DECISION AND ORDER GRANTING APPLICATION
FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING / WALGREEN'S PHARMACY &
DRIVE-UP (AZ-99-019)
Meridian City Code S 11-2-4 which pertains to development tilne schedules and
requirements; Meridian City Code S 12-4-13, which pertains to the piping of ditches;
a11d Meridian City Code S 12-5-2 N, which pertains to pressurized irrigation syste111s.
10. The development of the property shall be subject to and controlled by
the Zoning and Subdivisio11 and Development Ordinance of the City of Meridia11.
STATEMENT OF FACTS RELATIVE TO LEGAL AUTHORITY
AND JURISDICTION
FINDINGS OF FACT
1. The notice of public hearing on the application for annexation a11d
zoning was published for two (2) consecutive weelcs prior to said public hearing
scheduled for January 18, 2000, and continued until February I, 2000, before the
City Council, the first publication appearing and written notice havi11g bee11111ailed
to property owners or purchasers of record within three hundred feet (300') of the
external boundaries of the property under consideration more than fiftee11 (15) days
prior to said hearing and with the notice of public hearing having been posted Up011
the property under consideration more than one weelc before said heari11g; and that
copies of all notices were made available to newspaper, radio and television stations
as public service announcements; and the matter having been duly considered by the
City COU11Cil at the January 18, 2000, and continued until February I, 2000, public
hearing; a11d the applicant, affected property owners, and governlnent subdivisio11S
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW - Page 7
AND DECISION AND ORDER GRANTING APPLICATION
FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING/WALGREEN'S PHARMACY &
DRIVE-UP (AZ-99-0 19)
providing services within the planning jurisdiction of the City of Meridian, having
been given full opportunity to express comments and submit evidence.
2. There has been compliance with all notice and hearing requirements set
forth in Idaho Code ss 67-6509 and 67-6511, and Meridian City Code SS 11-15-5
and 11-16-1.
3. The City Council tal(es judicial notice of its zoning, subdivisions and
development ordinances codified at Meridian City Code Titles II and 12, and all
current zoning lnaps thereof, and the Comprehensive Plan of the City of Meridial1
adopted December 21,1993, Ordinance No. 629, January 4,1994, and lnaps a11d the
ordinal1ce Establishing the Impact Area Boundary.
4. The property is approximately 4.34 acres in size. The property is
located at the northwest corner of Fairview Avenue and Locust Grove Road. The
property is designated as Lots I, 2, 7, and 8 Doris Subdivision, and described as
follows:
HA WIGNS-SMITH DEVELOPMENT
DORIS SUBDIVISION PROPERTY
ANNEXATION DESCRIPTION
A parcel of land being all of Lots 1,2,7, and 8 of Blocl( 1 of Doris Sllbdivision
as recorded in Book 16 of Plats at Page 1080 of Ada County Records, and also
a portion of the streets adjacent to said Lots and lyi11g withi11 the Southeast
1/4 of the Southeast 1/4 of Section 6, Township 3 North, Range 1 East, B.M.,
Ada County, Idaho, more particularly described as follows:
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW - Page 8
AND DECISION AND ORDER GRANTING APPLICATION
FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING/WALGREEN'S PHARMACY &
DRIVE-UP (AZ-99-019)
BEGINNING at the Southeast COD1er of said Section 6;
Thence N 00000'0011 E, along the East boundary of said section, also being the
centerline of Locust Grove Road, a distance of 452.21 feet;
Thence N 90000100" W, along the centerline of Carol Street as shown on said
subdivision plat, a distance of 418.50 feet;
Thence S 00000'00" W, along a line being the extension of and the west
boundary of said Lots 2 and 7, a distance of 452.09 feet to the South
boundary of said Section 6;
Thence S 89059'00" E, along said South boundary being within the right-of-
way of Fairview Avenue, a distance of 418.50 feet, to the Real Point of
Beginning, containing 4.34 acres of land, more or less.
5. The owners of record of the subject property are:
John and Cheryl Wardle, 8995 W. Chinden Blvd., Meridian, Idaho;
I(evin and Lila Bates, 1515 S. Carroll, Meridian, Idaho;
Adrian & Cheri Mansayon, 1555 S. Carroll, Meridian, Idaho;
Brent Luana Barrus, 5720 Overland Road, Meridian, Idaho.
6. Applicant is Hawld11s-Smith, of 8645 W. Franl<lin Rd., Boise, Idaho.
7. The property is presently zoned by Ada County as C-2 a11d R-8, and
consists of both commercial and single faluily residential developlnent.
8. The Applicant requested the property be zoned as General Retail and
Service Commercial (C-G).
9. The proposed site of the subject property is located at the northwest
corner of Fairview and Locust Grove Road.
10. The subject property is bordered to the north by a residential
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW - Page 9
AND DECISION AND ORDER GRANTING APPLICATION
FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING/WALGREEN'S PHARMACY &
DRIVE-UP (AZ-99-0 19)
subdivision and city limits of the City of Meridian are adjacent to the east a11d west
of the subject property.
11. The property which is the subject of this application is within the Area
of Impact of the City of Meridian.
12. The entire parcel of the property is included within the Meridian Urba11
Service Planning Area as the Urban Service Planning Area is defined in the Meridian
Comprehensive Plan.
13. The Applicant proposes to develop the subject property in the following
ma1111er: development of a 15,120 sq. ft. Walgreen's drugstore with one drive-thru
window, and a 7,000 sq. ft. single story, multi-tenant retail buildil1g.
14. The Applicant requests zoning of the subject real property as Ge11eral
Retail and Service Commercial (C-G). It is consistent with the Meridia11
Comprehensive Plan Gel1eralized Land Use Map which designates tl1e subject
property as Commercial/Mixed Planned Use Develop:o:e11t. Further, this application
is consistent with the following provisions of the Meridian Comprehensive Plan:
Population Chapter
1.6U - Encourage and support new businesses which offer higher-than-average-wage
jobs and upward employment mobility to located in Meridian.
Economic Development Chapter
1.2 - . . .set aside areas where comlnercial interest and activities are to dOlninate.
1.4 - Positive programs should be undertalcen to support existing commercial areas to
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW - Page 10
AND DECISION AND ORDER GRANTING APPLICATION
FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING/WALGREEN'S PHARMACY &
DRIVE-UP (AZ-99-0 19)
ensure their continued vitality. . .
1.6 - . . .support shopping facilities which are effectively integrated into new or
existing residential areas, and plan for new shopping centers as growth and
development warrant.
Land Use Chapter
4.3U - Encourage new commercial development within u11der-utilized existing
commercial areas.
4.4U - Locate new planned Neighborhood Commercial Centers (3-8 acres) 011
arterials or collectors near residential areas in such a way as to c01nple1ne11t but not
conflict with adjoining residential areas.
4.8U - Encourage commercial uses. . .to locate i11 the Old Town district, business
parIes, shopping centers and near high-intensity activity areas, such as freeway
in tercha11ge.
5 .18U - Existing residential properties will be protected from incolnpatible land-use
develop1nent.
. . .Screening and buffers will be incorporated into all development requests in this
area.
Transportation Chapter
1.5U - Encourage clustering of uses and controlled access points along arterials.
1.9U - E11courage residential and non-residential developments to provide adequate
easenlents for future pathways.
Community Design Chapter
1.4 - Major entrances to the City should be enhanced and emphasized.
1.6 - The addition of landscaping within existing commercial parldng lots should be
encouraged.
2.2U - Encourage area beautification through uniform sign desigI1 that enha11ces the
cOilllnUl1ity.
4.4U - Encourage landscaped setbacl<B for new development 011 e11tra11ce corridors.
The City shall require, as a condition of developmel1t approval, landscapi11g along all
entra11ce corridors.
15. There are no significant or scenic features of major importance that
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW - Page 11
AND DECISION AND ORDER GRANTING APPLICATION
FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING/WALGREEN'S PHARMACY &
DRIVE-UP (AZ-99-019)
affect the consideration of this application.
16. Giving due consideration to the comment received frOITI the
governmental subdivisions providing services in the City of Meridian planning
jurisdiction, public facilities and services required by the proposed developIneI1t
will not impose expense upon the public if the following conditions of
development are imposed as a condition of Staff review and approval of
development permits, and which restrict the use and developrneI1t of the
subject real property under the CommerciaVMixed Planned Use DevelopInent
procedures and pursuant to the conditional use perInit process, to-wit:
16.1 Any existing domestic wells and/or septic systems within this project will
have to be removed from their domestic service per City Ordil1ance
Section 5-7 -517 . Wells lnay be used for non-domestic purposes such as
landscape irrigation.
16.2. Any existing irrigation/drainage ditches crossing the property to be
included in this project, shall be tiled per City OrdinaI1ce 11-9-605.M.
The ditches to be piped should be shown on the site plans. Pla11s will
need to be approved by the appropriate irrigation/drai11age district, or
lateral users association, with written confirmation of said approval
submitted to the Public Worl,s DepartInent. No variances have been
requested for tiling of any ditches crossing this project.
16.3 A development agreement is required as a condition of annexation. All
uses on the property shall be developed as a planned developn1el1t tInder
the conditional use process.
16.4 The requested C-G zone is consistent with the zoning of the adjacent
Avest Subdivisiol1 (Fred Meyer) and Idaho Athletic Club properties. It
is an eligible zoning district under the Mixed/Plal1ned Use Developmel1t
comprehensive plan designation. However, given the high visibility and
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW - Page 12
AND DECISION AND ORDER GRANTING APPLICATION
FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING/WALGREEN'S PHARMACY &
DRIVE-UP (AZ-99-019)
arteriallocatio11 of the property, staff recommends the Developlnent
Agreement specifically exclude the following permitted C-G uses for the
subject property in order to protect the existing neighboring uses:
1. Automobile Service Stations
2. Storage Facilities
3. Truclc Stops
4. Heavy Equipment (Sales & Repair)
16.5 Applicant shall be required to dedicate all right-of-way along the access
points only as required by ACHD prior to the issuance of any building
permi ts .
16.6 Pursuant to the CUP Site Plan (Sheet CU-I), the Applicant is proposi11g
to adjust the existing parcel lines from the quadrarlt configuration to a
north-south split that separates the Walgreen's store from the multi-
tenant retail building. There are six-foot utility easements (3 feet 011
each side of the C01TI1TIOn lot li11es) associated with the existi11g lot lines.
Applicant shall be required to vacate these easements and apply for a
lot-line adjustment.
16.7 That the drive-thrus on the entire site be limited to 011e.
16.8 The 6-foot utility easements that are currently recorded with this plat
will be approved by City COU11Cil to vacate the ease1nents prior to the
Planning and Zoning Depart1ne11t issuing a Certificate of Zoning
Compliance.
16.9 Applicant shall be allowed a 25 foot la11dscape buffer.
16.10 Applicant shall be allowed the curre11t sign recommendation of 72-
square-feet (total) and the existing sign at the chiropractic area shall
remain.
16.11 The hours of operation shall be from 7 :00 a.m. until 10:00 p.m.
16.12 The Applicant shall install all curbs and sidewall(s before obtainil1g a
Certificate of Occupancy.
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW - Page 13
AND DECISION AND ORDER GRANTING APPLICATION
FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING/WALGREEN'S PHARMACY &
DRIVE-UP (AZ-99-0 19)
16.13 The Applicant shall construct a decorative, split-face blocl( wall with a
row of colored blocl( on the north side before construction of a11Y
buildings is started.
17. It is found that if the developer pays for the requested improvements
and cOlnplies with the conditions set forth in these findings of fact, and all sub-parts,
the econolnic welfare of the City and its residents a11d tax and rate payers will be
protected, which requirement shall be included in a development agreelnent, a
condition of annexation and zoning designation.
18. It is found that the developlnent considerations which must be
tal(e11 i11to account, in order to assure the proposed development is desig11ed,
constructed, operated and maintained in a manner which is harlTI011iollS and
appropriate in appearance with the existing, or intel1ded character of the ge11eral
vicinity, in order to assure that the proposed use will not change the essential
character of the affected vicinity and will insure that the proposed uses will 110t be
hazardous or disturbing to the existing] or future neighboril1g uses, particularly
considering the impact of proposed development on potential to produce excessive
traffic, noise, smol(e, fumes, glare and odors, and is set forth in Findi11g No. 16.
DECISION AND ORDER
NOW, THEREFORE, BASED UPON THE ABOVE AND
FOREGOING FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW, the
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW - Page 14
AND DECISION AND ORDER GRANTING APPLICATION
FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING/WALGREEN'S PHARMACY &
DRIVE-UP (AZ-99-019)
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City Council does hereby Order and this does Order:
1. The applicant's request for annexation and zoning of approxilnately
4.34 acres to Commercial Retail and Service Commercial (C-G) is granted subject to
the terlllS and conditions of this Order hereinafter stated.
2. The application is for annexation and zoning of 4.34 acres. The
legal description shall be prepared by a Registered Land Surveyor, Licensed by the
State of Idaho, and shall conform to all the provisions of the City of Meridian
Resolution No. 158. The legal description for annexation must place this parcel
contiguous to the Corporate City Limits per Ordinance No. 686.
3. OwnerslDeveloper enter into a Development Agreement, and such
Development Agreement shall also include and contain the conditions of al1d for the
real property which provides in the event the conditions therein are not met by the
OWl1ers/Developer that the property shall be subject to re-zone and/or de-annexation,
with the City of Meridian, which provides for the following conditions of LIse al1d
development to-wit:
Conditions of Use:
3.1 A development agreement is required as a condition of annexatiol1. All
uses on the property shall be developed as a planned developlnent under
the conditional use process.
Conditions 'of Development:
3.2 Any existing domestic wells and/or septic systems withi11 t11is project will
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW - Page 15
AND DECISION AND ORDER GRANTING APPLICATION
FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING/WALGREEN'S PHARMACY &
DRIVE-UP (AZ-99-019)
have to be relTIoved from their dOlnestic service per City Ordinance
Section 5-7 -517 . Wells may be used for 110n-domestic purposes such as
landscape irrigation.
3.3 Any existing irrigation/drainage ditches crossing the property to be
included in this project, shall be tiled per City Ordinance 11-9-605.M.
The ditches to be piped should be shovvn on the site plans. Plans will
need to be approved by the appropriate irrigation/drainage district, or
lateral users association, with written confirlnation of said approval
sublnitted to the Public Works Department. No variances have beel1
requested for tiling of any ditches crossing this project.
3.4 The requested C-G zone is consistent with the zoning of the adjacent
Avest Subdivision (Fred Meyer) and Idaho Athletic Club properties. It
is an eligible zoning district under the Mixed/Planned Use Development
comprehensive plan designation. However, given the high visibility and
arterial location of the property, staff recommends the Development
Agreement specifically exclude the following permitted C-G uses for the
subject property il1 order to protect the existing neighboring uses:
1. Automobile Service Stations
2. Storage Facilities
3. Trucl( Stops
4. Heavy Equipment (Sales & Repair)
3.5 Applicant shall be required to dedicate all right-of-way along Locust
Grove Fairview and Carol Street as required by ACHD prior to the
issuance of any building permits.
3.6 Pursuant to the CUP Site Plan (Sheet CD -1 ), the Applicant is proposing
to adjust the existing parcel lines from the quadrant configuration to a
north-south split that separates the Walgreen's store from the lTIulti-
tenant retail building. There are six-foot utility easements (3 feet on
each side of the common lot lines) associated with the existing lot lines.
Applicant shall be required to vacate these easements and apply for a
lot-line adjustment.
3.7 That the drive-thrus on the entire site be limited to one.
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW - Page 16
AND DECISION AND ORDER GRANTING APPLICATION
FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING/WALGREEN'S PHARMACY &
DRIVE-UP (AZ-99-019)
3.8 The 6-foot utility easements that are currently recorded with this plat
will be approved by City Council to vacate the easements prior to the
Planning and Zoning Department issuing a Certificate of Zoning
Compliance.
3. 9 Applicant shall be allowed a 25 foot landscape buffer.
3.10 Applicant shall be allowed the current sign recomlnendation of 72-
square-feet (total) and the existing sign at the chiropractic area shall
remaIn.
3.11 The hours of operation shall be from 7 :00 a.m. until 10:00 p.m.
3.12 The Applicant shall install all curbs and sidewall<:.s before obtail1ing a
Certificate of Occupancy.
3.13 The Applicant shall construct a decorative, split-face blocl<:. wall with a
row of colored bloclc on the north side before construction of any
buildings is started.
4. The City Attorney shall prepare for consideration by the City
Council the appropriate ordinance for the annexation and zoning desigt1ation of the
real property which is the subject of the application to (C-G) General Retail aI1d
Service Commercial District (Meridian City Code ~ 11-7-2 IC).
5. Subsequent to the passage of the Ordinance provided for in
section 4 of this Order the engineering staff of the Public W or1es Department shall
prepare the appropriate mapping changes of the official boundaries and z011ing nlaps
as provided in Meridian City Code ~ 11-21-1 in accordance with the provisions of the
an11exatio11 and zoning ordinance.
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW - Page 17
AND DECISION AND ORDER GRANTING APPLICATION
FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING/WALGREEN'S PHARMACY &
DRIVE-UP (AZ-99-019)
NOTICE OF FINAL ACTION
Please ta](e notice that this is a final action of the governing body of the City
of Meridian. Pursuant to Idaho Code S 67-6521 an affected person is a person who
has an interest in real property which may be adversely affected by the issuance or
de11ial of the annexation and zoning and who may within twenty-eight (28) days
after the date of this decision and order seelc a judicial review as provided by Chapter
52, Title 67, Idaho Code.
By action of the City Council at its regular meeting held on the
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ROLL CALL
COUNCILMAN RON ANDERSON
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COUNCILMAN I<EITH BIRD
COUNCILPERSON TAMMY deWEERD
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COUNCILPERSON CHERIE McCANDLESS
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MAYOR ROBERT D. CORRIE (TIE BREAl<ER)
DATED: 2,--1 ~ --00
VOTED
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW - Page 18
AND DECISION AND ORDER GRANTING APPLICATION
FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING/WALGREEN'S PHARMACY &
DRIVE-UP (AZ-99-019)
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APPROVED:
DISAPPROVED:
MOTION:
Copy served upon Applicant, the Planning and Zoning Department, Public W orl(s
Department and the City Attorney.
By: Dated:
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FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW - Page 19
AND DECISION AND ORDER GRANTING APPLICATION
FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING / WALGREEN'S PHARMACY &
DRIVE-UP (AZ-99-019)
MEMORANDUM
CITY OF MERIDIAN
CITY CLERK'S OFFICE
TO: Keith Bird
FROM: William G. Berg, Jr. ~,-t.)
DA TE: Tuesday, February 15, 2000
RE: items to possible discussed at City Co.uncil Meeting
- Invitation to join the Senior Citizens for lunch at the Senior Center during the
month of March. Pick a day and contact Donna Jones at 888-5555.
- Need items for City Council Workshop agenda on Tuesday, February 29th
submitted to me by Tuesday, February 2~d.
,... Reminder of the ACHD Joint Workshop on Thursday, February 17th.
- FFA appreciation breakfast on Friday, February 1ath at 6:00 AM.
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RESOLUTION NO J' Cl /
BY: 4/flt.. !Jitt:!-
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A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN,
SETTING FORTH CERTAIN FINDINGS AND PURPOSES; AUTHORIZING
THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO, ON BEHALF OF SAID MUNICIPALITY, AN
AGREEMENT ENTITLED "DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT", BY AND
BETWEEN THE CITY OF MERIDIAN AND CHARLES CRANE.
BE IT RESOLVED BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
MERIDIAN, IDAHO:
WHEREAS, it is in the best interests of the City of Meridian to enter
into an agreement with CHARLES CRANE, denoted as "DEVELOPMENT
AGREEMENT", a copy of which is attached hereto marlced as Exhibit "A" to
this Resolution, the reasons and authority for which are as set forth in said
Agreement.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE MAYOR AND CITY
COUNCIL as follows:
1. The Mayor and Clerlc are hereby authorized to enter into and on
behalf of the City of Meridian that certain agreement with CHARLES CRANE,
entitled "DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT", by and between the City of
Meridian and CHARLES CRANE, a copy of which is attached hereto marl(ed as
Exhibit "A" to this Resolution and to bind this City to its terms and
conditions.
PASSED BY THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO, this /516
day of n~ ,2000. -
APPROVED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO, this
I S~ day of F.eln'''uf)/L.j , 2000.
ATTEST:
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CITY CLERIC f/ V
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CERTIFICATE OF CLERI(
OF
THE CITY OF MERIDIAN
1, the llndersigned, do hereby certify:
1. That I alTI the dllly appoi11ted and elected Clerl( of t11e City of Meridian,
a dllly incorporated City operati11g under the lavvs of the State of Idaho,
vvith its principal office at 33 East Idaho, Meridian, Idaho.
2.' That as the City Clerl( of t11is City, I aln the .cltstodia11 of its records and
minutes and do hereby certify that on the /g-/b day of
Ji;ltYvu.tlA..VL , 2000, the following action has been taken and
authorized: (/
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN,
SETTING FORTH CERTAlN FINDINGS AND PURPOSES; AUTHORIZING THE
MAYOR TO ENTER INTO, ON BEHALF OF SAlD MUNICIPALITY, AN
AGREEMENT ENTITLED "DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT", BY AND
BETWEEN THE CITY OF MERIDIAN AND CHARLES CRANE.
BE IT RESOLVED BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
MERIDIAN,. IDAHO:
WHEREAS, it is in the best interests of the City of Meridian to enter il1to a11
agreelnent vvith CHARLES CRANE, denoted as "DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT",
a copy of which is attached hereto marl(ed as Exhibit "A" to this Resollltion, the
reasons and allthority for which are as set forth in said Agreement.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE MAYOR AND CITY
COUNCIL as follows:
1. The Mayor and Clerl( are hereby authorized to enter i11to a11d on behalf
of the City of Meridian that certain agreement vvith CHARLES CRANE, e11titled
"DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT", by and betvveen the City of Meridian and
CER TIFI CA TE 0 F CLERI( OF THE CITY 0 F MERIDIAN - 1
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CHARLES CRANE, a copy of vvl1ich is attached hereto marked as Exhibit "A" to this
Resolution and to bind thi~,r;;ity to its terms and conditions.
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STATE OF IDAHO, lUyJ uH
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COllnty of Ada,
On this ISrf day of F{!)znu~, in the year 2000, before me,JN1bl:t
13. U~('U<-- , a No ary Public, appeared WILLIAM G. BERG,
JR., l<.nown or identified to n1e to be the City Clerl( of the City of Meridian, Idaho
t11at executed the said instrument, and ack110wledged to me that he executed the
saIne on behalf of the City of Meridian.
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