HomeMy WebLinkAbout2026-02-05 Meridian Planning and Zoning Meeting February 5, 2026.
Meeting of the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission of February 5, 2026, was
called to order at 6:00 p.m. by Vice-Chairman Jared Smith.
Members Present: Commissioner Jared Smith, Commissioner Matthew Sandoval,
Commissioner Jessica Perreault, and Commissioner Matthew Stoll.
Members Absent: Commissioner Maria Lorcher and Commissioner Brian Garrett.
Others Present: Tina Lomeli, Kurt Starman, Bill Parsons, Linda Ritter and Nick Napoli.
ROLL-CALL ATTENDANCE
Brian Garrett X Jessica Perrault
_X Matthew Sandoval X Matthew Stoll
_X (Vacant) X Jared Smith
Maria Lorcher- Chairman
Smith: Good evening. Welcome to the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting for
February 5th, 2026. At this time I would like to call the meeting to order. The
Commissioners who are present for this evening's meeting are at City Hall and on
Zoom. We will also have staff from the City Attorney and City Clerk's Office, as well as
the city's Planning -- we also have staff from the City Attorney and City Clerk's Office, as
well as the City Planning Department. If you are joining us on Zoom this evening we
can see that you are here. You may observe the meeting, however, your ability to be
seen on screen and talk will be muted. During the public testimony portion of the
meeting you will be unmuted and, then, be able to comment. Please note that we will
not -- we cannot take questions until the public testimony portion. If you have a process
question during the meeting, please, e-mail cityclerk@meridiancity.org and they will
reply as quickly as possible. If you simply want to watch the meeting we encourage you
to watch this streaming on the City's YouTube channel. You can access it at
meridiancity.org/live. With that let's begin with the roll call. Madam Clerk.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
Smith: The first item on the agenda is the adoption of the agenda. There are no
changes to tonight's agenda. Could I get a motion to adopt tonight's agenda?
Stoll: Move to adopt today -- tonight's agenda as presented.
Perreault: Second.
Smith: It's been moved and seconded to adopt the agenda. All in favor say aye. Any
opposed? Motion carries.
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MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. TWO ABSENT.
CONSENT AGENDA [Action Item]
1. Approve Minutes of the January 15, 2026 Planning and Zoning
Commissioner Meeting
Smith: Consent Agenda. Next item -- the next item is the Consent Agenda, which
includes to approve the minutes of the Planning and Zoning Commission on January
15th. Could I get a motion to adopt the Consent Agenda as presented?
Perreault: Mr. Vice-Chair, so moved.
Stoll: Second.
Smith: It has been moved and seconded to adopt the Consent Agenda. All in favor say
aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. TWO ABSENT.
ITEMS MOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA [Action Item]
ACTION ITEMS
2. Public Hearing continued from December 18, 2025 for Syringa
Crossing Mixed Use Development (H-2025-0007) by Hawkins
Companies, generally located at the northwest and southwest
corners of S. Meridian Rd./US69
A. Request: Annexation of 62.43 acres of land with R-15 (9.76 acres),
R-40 (18.01 acres) C-N (2.07 acres), C-C (9.12 acres) and C-G
(23.47 acres) zoning districts.
B. Request: Preliminary Plat consisting of 8 building lots on 24.46
acres of land in the proposed R-40 and C-C zoning districts.
C. Request: Conditional Use Permit for a multi-family development
consisting of 322 residential apartment units on 16.35 acres of land
in the R-40 zoning district.
Smith: Item No. 2, H-2025-0007, Syringa Crossing mixed use development has
requested a continuance. So, they are requesting to continue this to February 19th due
to the site not being posted correctly. So, may I get a motion to continue the application
to February 19th?
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Stoll: Mr. Vice-Chair, I move to continue the hearing for H-2025-0007, Syringa Crossing
Mixed-use Development, until February 19th.
Perreault: Second.
Smith: It's been moved and seconded. All those in favor say aye. Any opposed?
Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. TWO ABSENT.
3. Public Hearing continued from December 18, 2025 for St. George (H-
2025-0004) by Shaun Wardle and Jason St. George, located at 3870
E. Overland Rd. and 1545 S. Topaz Ave.
A. Request: Annexation of 2.0 acres with the R-15 zoning district to
construct nineteen (19) multi-family units, 7,987 Sq. ft. of
commercial space and four (4) vertically integrated residential units.
B. Request: Two Conditional Use Permits, one for the multi-family
residential and one for the vertically integrated residential project in
the R-15 zoning district.
Smith: All right. Item 3 on the agenda is H-2025-0004, which is a continuance of St.
George on Overland and Topaz for annexation and two conditional use permits. Before
we get started with the staff report I just wanted to defer to Kurt for a quick moment.
Starman: Thank you, Mr. Vice-Chair. Just for the record when this item was first heard
by the Commission some time ago Commissioner Stoll was not in attendance at that
particular meeting and, similarly, Commissioner Perreault was at that meeting, but had
to leave early and so both didn't fully participate in that initial discussion. However, both
have told me and I will just ask them to state this on the record here in a moment, but
both have told me that they have had the opportunity to review the record, either the
recording and/or the minutes and are prepared to act tonight. So, I think we are -- they
are prepared to proceed and deliberate and vote if that comes -- if that's the
Commission's desire tonight and may I just ask both Commissioners just to briefly
confirm that they are prepared to proceed.
Stoll: I am prepared to proceed. I have reviewed the recording of the meeting.
Perreault: Same for me. I have reviewed all of the materials in the project folder and
watched the video from the original hearing.
Smith: Great. Thank you. With that we will continue with the staff report.
Napoli: Good evening, Chair, Members of the Commission. Next item on the agenda is
the annexation and conditional use permits for St. George. So, on November 6th, 2025,
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St. George project was presented before the Planning and Zoning Commission. The
Planning and Zoning Commission continued the project to have the applicant work with
city staff to fix the outstanding issues. The applicant has submitted revised drawings
and documents based on this direction and just a reminder to the Commission, the
applicant's request tonight is an annexation of two acres with the R-15 zoning district, to
construct 19 multi-family units and one vertically integrated residential building
consisting of 7,987 square feet of commercial space and four residential units. Both
uses require conditional use permit in the R-15 zoning district. So, just going to go over
the changes since the previous hearing. Since the previous hearing the applicant has
resolved the following issues. They resolved issues with Public Works regarding water-
sewer easements and separation requirements and provided updated floor plans
meeting the requirement for private usable open space and revised the landscape plan
to incorporate additional details. However, there is still some existing -- or new issues
that have not been resolved. So, the applicant did revise a landscape plan. However, it
still does not meet all the design standards. I did talk with the design -- or their
landscape architect. They are aware of what they need to do to bring that into
compliance. But currently at this time I have not received those revisions. And, then,
concerns still persist regarding functional integration with surrounding properties. In
addition, staff is asking the Planning and Zoning Commission to carefully consider
whether traffic generated by the development is appropriate given the existing
conditions and access points. However, the largest new concern continues to be
focused on the open space around Five Mile Creek. Since the previous hearing the
applicant has been in discussions with the irrigation district about piping the creek and
the feasibility of a bridge. The irrigation district did indicate that piping the creek was
possible and a bridge may be pending the correct approvals. However, the UDC does
prohibit piping natural waterways and as a result staff is not in favor of piping the creek.,
So, if -- if the Planning and Zoning Commission is going to be recommended approval
tonight we ask that you do not pipe the creek, because the UDC prohibits it. So -- and
so if the Planning and Zoning Commission is in favor of the updated -- the new plans
staff has recommended that Five Mile Creek remain open without a bridge and the
northernmost unit on Building A be removed to incorporate additional open space and
three amenities, one from each category, be located in the open space north of Building
A and this would be Building A. Right -- this would be what we would be asking to be
removed for more additional open space. And we have not received any written
testimony since the previous hearing and I will stand for any questions you guys have.
Smith: Is there any questions for staff? All right. Would the applicant like to come
forward?
Wardle: Thank you, Mr. Vice-Chair, Members of the Commission. Shaun Wardle.
2239 East Griner Street on behalf of the applicant for the St. George project. We
appreciate the opportunity to work with staff on a continuation. We believe that we have
solved all of -- the majority of the technical issues. Our landscape designer did speak
with Nick and is -- is aware of our deficiency there and will be submitting a new plan.
So -- so, that's submitted. We have got 19 multi-family units. We have got 8,000
square feet of commercial space and, then, four vertically integrated units here. We feel
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that -- that that meets the Comprehensive Plan's focus and goals for not just density,
but for a mix of uses and -- and we think it will be a nice addition, especially along that
Overland frontage. As part of our application -- our last discussion was over the bridge
and a proposed bridge, which would access our amenities across that bridge and so we
went to the Nampa-Meridian Irrigation District, we worked with them. One of their
solutions was to what they call pipe and cover that particular waterway, which would,
frankly, be their -- their preference from a maintenance standpoint and -- and we talked
about this particular waterway in an urban area. We also went to the Parks Department
to discuss the -- effectively what would be mandated as a pathway. There are a couple
issues with that. The Parks Department has told us that they don't want the pathway
constructed as part of this -- as part of this project and they are not sure which side of
the -- of the ditch it would go, if they want it at all, and --- and one of the considerations
there is if you look at -- if you look at Five Mile Creek from Topaz, as it meanders
through the business park, there really isn't a solution and -- and when it gets to Eagle
Road, of course, it dead ends and -- and how would you get over Eagle Road; right?
So, the Parks Department is -- has effectively said let us figure that out. We have an
easement with the irrigation district if we choose to do a pathway and so we -- we feel
like we have attempted to -- to meet those requirements. We -- we have submitted two
e-mail communications from the -- from the -- the -- excuse me -- from the irrigation
district, both with which allow us to, one, pipe and cover, but we have got some federal
permits to do. I will point out that ACHD did pipe and cover the ditch on Topaz and
received a 404 permit there and so we are working with those entities to -- to -- to make
that happen. We do have permission from the neighbor to the south to pipe and cover
that portion as well, which would be a requirement of the irrigation district. So, the -- the
new comment in terms of not being allowed to -- to put a bridge, which wouldn't allow us
to access our property, was -- was new and -- and wasn't something that we had
considered within our plan. So, we are here to -- to have that discussion and I would
stand for any questions.
Smith: Thanks. I will start. Any -- any Commissioners have any questions for the
applicant? So -- so, I guess I -- I have one question around this. It seems so -- trying to
get to the bottom of this, because it seems like this is -- if I had to guess might be -- kind
of one of the main points of contention. NMID seems to be okay with piping. It's not in
the UDC. It seems like there is federal permits is what you are -- you are saying. I
guess where -- where is the rub and where is the -- what I'm trying to understand is --
for what reasons does the UDC prohibit it and are they accounted for in any way kind
of--
Wardle: Mr. Vice-Chair, if I might --just before Nick answers. If I might make -- so, one
of -- one of the -- one of the things about this particular application is -- is if you -- if you
have been out there and seen the waterway a lot of people individually in Five Mile
Creek -- how it runs through to my neighborhood. I live in Woodbridge and -- and the
developer did a nice job of developing a pathway. I walk my wife's dogs every day
down that particular pathway. This portion of Five Mile Creek, which runs through the
business park, runs through Topaz, Rolling Hills and, then, effectively across the
freeway is -- is not that aesthetic that I believe that the UDC and the -- and the
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Comprehensive Plan would -- would anticipate and so that's one of the reasons that --
that the irrigation district would prefer from a -- from a maintenance and construction
standpoint to -- frankly, to pipe and cover it.
Smith: So, I guess to append to that, Nick, from -- from my recollection -- and you guys
maybe correct me if I'm wrong -- it seems like we have done this for canals. We have
been okay with piping and covering. Is it just -- is it that it's natural currently is is the
main reason?
Napoli: Commissioner Smith, that's correct. Natural waterways in the UDC -- I think it's
11-3C-6 or 3-A-6 I should say, requires natural waterways to be improved as a natural
amenity in the city. If they were -- obviously, Council does have a -- a purview to
approve something that's not code through, you know, a variance process. There is a
process to do that. But from staff's perspective, correct, we are consistent on leaving
natural waterways -- improving natural waterways I should say, but leaving them open
as a natural amenity. If they are going to pipe it I would like to know -- I did talk with our
floodplain administrator. I don't know if that's his exact title. Jason Korn. He broke it
down for me on kind of everything they would need to go through as far as federal
permitting and he kind of broke down a rough timeline for me and, you know, you are
looking at some -- sometimes up to 18 to 24 months, because you have to do CLOMR
and LOMR and when FEMA mapped this area they actually didn't map it I would say
accurately, so we would want an accurate map for this actual portion of the -- the canal
-- or the -- the creek I should say. So, it's not as easy as just piping it. There is quite a
bit of permitting that goes behind it that's on a federal level that even includes the Army
Corps of Engineers. So, I -- I will -- I guess I will stand for any questions if you have on
that additional --
Smith: That's very helpful. Thank you. And, Commissioners, any other questions?
Perreault: Mr. Vice-Chair?
Smith: Commissioner Perreault.
Perreault: So, our notes say that the staff still have concern regarding the open space.
We received some new schematics in the memorandum that staff wrote and I was
hoping the applicant could kind of walk through that with us a little bit, especially the
revised open space exhibit.
Wardle: So, a couple of the big revisions were along -- were along Overland and we will
have one additional revision which will -- which will have an -- an amenity there and,
then, we have got open space down -- down the middle of -- of the multi-family units.
The pathway there -- I guess I'm -- here we go. Pathway through here. We have also
got a bike station, which will be here at the end of the units, as well as some green
space here and, then, again, we are -- we are planning on having a BBQ picnic area
across the other side of that -- the other side of Five Mile Creek, which is one of the
reasons that we are looking at that crossing with -- with the bridge.
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Smith: Commissioner Stoll.
Stoll: Shaun, are you okay with staffs other recommendations regarding the project?
Their memo?
Wardle: All the recommendations with -- with the exception of -- of the removal of -- of
the bridge. We -- and we understand -- I -- I guess the question for this -- for this body
is if we were to -- to want to pipe and cover that would -- is -- is that a consideration at
the Council level or is that a -- okay. So -- so, we would ask that -- that -- that we be
allowed to -- to move forward with that issue. We can do some additional research on --
on what that looks like and make a -- make a better presentation on -- on that and so
the only -- the only recommendation within the staff report that we wouldn't agree with
would be the removal of the bridge and we have -- we have submitted evidence that the
Nampa-Meridian Irrigation District will allow it within their parameters. They have some
pretty strict parameters.
Stoll: But just to clarify, the bridge would only be necessary if the Five Mile Creek
wasn't covered?
Wardle: Correct. Correct. Yes.
Parsons: Mr. Chair?
Smith: Yeah.
Parsons: Just --just clarification if, Nick, you can go back to that -- that exhibit. So, the
reason why we bring this to your attention is we -- we believe that this is an amenity for
the project. I don't want the applicant to think that we don't -- the concern we have is
that it's in the floodway and nothing can be built in the floodway. So, theoretically, as it
stands today I don't think anyone could approve a bridge to cross the creek in the
floodplain. I don't know how you permit that. Unless we go through that mapping
exercise and -- and determine that it was mapped incorrectly or whatever work ACHD
did corrected that situation and now it's no longer in the floodway. We don't know that.
We don't have that information. So, that's the difficult part for us. That's why as staff we
are like, well, if we can't -- you could still count this as open space if you leave it natural.
The code says you can. That's -- it's just whether or not the Commission wants to
incorporate more usable open space into the development. If you recall with multi-
family standards the applicant has to provide X amount of open space based on the
square footage of the unit. So, again, if the Commission finds that that natural area still
meets the intent of the code you can approve it that way or if not you can stick with
staff's recommendation and say lose that unit and put the -- the amenities or add more
open space per the intent of the code. We are trying to get it to integrate a little bit
better. I like that the applicant testified that the Parks Department doesn't want the
pathway either. It's such a small segment it makes no sense to build such a little piece
of that pathway. It's better to get the easement and deal with it when we have more
land and incorporate that with the rest of the property. So, I think that's a wise decision.
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That's why Nick, staff, we have said leave it natural, leave it alone. We know there is
challenges with the floodway. We don't know what those are. Nick and I aren't experts,
but the best thing we can do at this point from our perspective is leave it alone. Leave it
a creek. Don't disturb it and we will get the right permitting and figure it out later. But,
again, that process takes time and, then, as part of your -- a part of the Commission's
purview tonight is whether or not this is the right time to annex the property. Do you feel
like is that something you feel comfortable with just leaving it natural and dealing with it
later as parks suggested or having the applicant lose units in favor of more open space
and relocating those amenities, because it may even be difficult to put those amenities
in that floodway. I mean typically we want to leave those as undisturbed.
Smith: I guess if -- if -- a question for you is -- see if there is a few options and -- and
one of them on the table is potentially counting this against the open space without that
kind of pipe and covering pathway. Would that -- I guess how is the bridge and pathway
important for open space considerations or part of the -- the -- the broader project plan
and vision -- you know, will that still work?
Wardle: I -- I believe it still works. And -- and, again, understanding that we meet -- you
know, we would meet the open space requirement. That's -- that's important. We
understand that. We understand it's a tight site, multi-family, and -- and -- and we knew
that we had the minimums to meet there. I guess the question -- and I haven't really
talked to my client about it -- is if -- if we are not allowed a bridge there, then, it
effectively doesn't have access to a portion of his property, because of this ordinance --
or because -- not this ordinance -- because of that decision and so that -- that would be
a consideration that I can discuss with them as we take additional testimony.
Smith: That sounds good. I think Kurt -- I might have questions for you during
deliberation or something like that, but I will save on that for now. Great. Any other
questions for the applicant? All right. Commissioner Sandoval, you have any
questions?
Sandoval: None at this time.
Smith: All right. Okay. So, we can move on to public testimony. Madam Clerk, is there
anyone signed up to testify?
Lomeli: Yes. I have Shirley Sterner. And, Vice-Chair Smith, she's indicated she is
representing -- is it five --
Sterner: I am representing -- I have five listings in the neighborhood and I'm a realtor
and I also -- there are three other agents that have on -- several other listings in the
neighborhood and so I'm speaking on behalf of those parties.
Smith: Okay. Thank you. And before we -- we get to the substance, could you also
just say your name and address.
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Sterner: Shirley Sterner. I don't live in the neighborhood.
Smith: Just say an address.
Sterner: 8860 West River Beach Lane.
Smith: Okay.
Sterner: And so I am -- the people that have their properties listed -- at least the ones
that I -- you know, they basically want to sell. They want the best use of their land and I
think they have a right to that and so we are trying to see this project go forward and
have it continued on through the neighborhood and I have heard a lot of -- you know --
and I understand people don't want to see more traffic, but three of the parties in the
neighborhood have -- already have short-term rentals in their homes, which creates
more traffic and there is basically a business within the community anyway, so -- and
they are not ones that are wanting this project to go through. So, I think that that needs
to be taken into consideration as well. So, I just want everybody to know that our votes
-- many of the people in the neighborhood's votes are, yes, please approve this. Okay?
Thank you.
Smith: Thank you very much. Madam Clerk, is there anyone else?
Lomeli: Commissioner Smith, no one else has signed up and nobody online is raising
their hand.
Smith: Is there anyone else who would like to testify? All right. I guess would the
applicant like to come back forward?
Wardle: Thank you, Mr. Vice-Chair, Members of the Commission. And -- and just to --
to clarify, if -- if we were to move the items that are effectively across Five Mile Creek
and relocate them at -- at some appropriate area and -- and be able to -- to continue
that as the open space calculation, my team would agree with that and -- and would be
able to -- to move that around, so --
Smith: All right. Any questions -- any other questions, Commissioners, for the
applicant?
Stoll: Mr. Chair?
Smith: Commissioner Stoll.
Stoll: Just to clarify. So, you would be willing to -- you would be open to moving the
amenities -- I guess be north of Five Mile Creek and as long as you don't lose that
building or are you open for still losing that building?
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Wardle: Correct. Right. My team believes that they can move -- they can move that
without losing the building -- without losing the building.
Smith: Okay. Commissioner Perreault?
Perreault: Mr. Vice-Chair. Give us a ballpark location of where those would go. And
the staff made the suggestion of a specific location, but --
Wardle: Sure. I'm going to bring up our architect Jim Escobar.
Escobar: Hello, Commissioners. Jim Escobar. P.O. Box 1277, Eagle, Idaho. And,
yeah, I think the thought process is if we took that area that we are trying to make as an
amenity on the other side of the ditch and we move it to the north of Building A, which is
the eastern most building, instead of losing a unit we still have a chunk of ground there
and it's still open space. We can use it and beautify it. We can do some landscaping
around that area so that the occupants of those buildings can use that space, I -- I think
it's suffices and I guess my question really is for Planning and Zoning if there was a
concern there with going that route versus losing that northernmost maintenance
garage unit that we have currently in the design. That's -- that's the intent of what --
what I'm -- what I was sharing with Shaun and what he was trying to share with you
guys.
Smith: Thank you. Nick, if you want to --
Napoli: Yeah. Commissioner Smith, Jim, so, you know, really, the thought process
behind it -- for one and I -- in my original staff report really highlighted -- there is no
regional park in the area, like, you know, none and as this area redevelops I don't know
if there is any going to be a -- you know, a public amenity that people can use out here
as far as, you know, plazas and those type of things between commercial and
residential and as this area redevelops it's going to be -- you know, it's going to be
projects like this where there is certain -- I wouldn't say piecemeal, but it -- it is. It's --
you know, you are getting a few properties here and there, a few properties here and
they are trying to consolidate it, but it's going to be -- you know, it's -- it's in-fill. So, it is
challenging. The thought process behind losing that -- that unit is provide more usable
open space. You know, ultimately if you guys think what they have is adequate that's
your guys' purview. Staff thinks, you know, having more usable open space is always
better, especially when, you know, you have -- 23 units is really -- I mean that is what is
out here. You know, four vertically integrated and 19 multi-family. So, you are going to
have a significant amount of people living out here with practically no park, nowhere to
walk their dogs. That's the challenge. So, I guess for you guys I would ask you to
consider what you guys think is adequate for that.
Escobar: May I follow up to that quick?
Smith: Sure.
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Escobar: So, my thought process is making sure, first of all, we can comply with what
the code says -- whatever the zoning code says. So, I think it still complies from what I
can remember from our process. The second part is make sure it's functional and
usable and it's not just something on a piece of paper that nobody ever -- I mean that's
-- we all want that for the benefit of the community and, then, the third point to that is it's
a pretty significant impact the fact that there is not a regional park in a very heavy
commercial and used area. We understand that's a challenge, but we don't feel like that
burden is necessarily our challenge to face, yet we still want our community to be -- to
rent, to be usable, to be a positive atmosphere. The owner's got his heart in this. He's
planning actually on living on site in one of those vertically integrated residential units.
So, we are not trying to skip by, we are not trying to develop the project and disappear,
we want a good project. We have been working really hard with staff to be able to get
there and I think the point is we can meet the -- the goals and have a usable area and
we have a chunk of ground there on a road that's not heavily traveled. So, that's --
that's what I'm trying to propose, because the idea of eliminating that space is -- well,
new to me as of a half an hour ago. So, I'm just shooting from the hip a little bit, too.
Smith: Did you have something? Commissioner Sandoval, any questions?
Sandoval: Nothing for me.
Smith: Okay. I guess with that is there a motion to close the public hearing?
Stoll: Move to close the public hearing.
Perreault: Second.
Smith: It's been moved and seconded. All those in favor say aye. Any opposed?
Motion passes.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. TWO ABSENT.
Smith: I will head off with -- with some thoughts. I think as a whole the project is -- is --
I -- I think this is actually a solid project. I think being right on a -- on a -- you know, a
transit corridor is -- is helpful and -- and makes a case for -- for me for density. I'm
balancing a couple things. One regarding the -- the floodway specifically. I don't
subscribe to the idea that something is inherently good just because it's natural. You
know, arsenic is natural; right? That being said, that doesn't mean we want, you know,
more developed areas to have zero natural kind of integration in them and so trying to
balance that and especially with the -- the floodway considerations, I -- I -- I don't know
that we have the right expertise to be able to -- to -- to judge on that and to rule on that,
so one of the things that I'm considering is -- it -- it -- does that justify continuing or
something like that? I don't know that it does. I think that is a conversation that
regardless is going to require a council waiver if something happens up there. So, I
think that's a conversation to research and -- and -- and thoroughly kind of investigate
and present to Council kind of with all the -- the pros and cons, cost and benefits and
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also legal rights. I have some thoughts and, Kurt, I -- I guess -- I don't understand how
if you have part of your property that you can't access due to statute how that isn't a
taking. Never -- never got my JD, but that seems a little bit odd.
Starman: Yeah. Mr. Vice-Chair. So, I'm not familiar enough with the -- with the site or
the details to probably comment one hundred percent of that, but I would say to the
extent that's the circumstance today, it's already divided by Five Mile Creek and access
is limited. The city is not doing any more to -- to compound that, other than saying we
are not going to allow you to make enhancements to better use it, but my take on it is
that the property's already divided and has access issues. That's an existing condition.
Smith: Okay. That's helpful. And the -- the last thing I will say that I'm -- I'm kind of
holding an intention is I agree it's not your responsibility to account for the fact that there
is a regional park, but -- there is no regional park, but whose responsibility is it and --
and that's a question that I'm -- I'm chewing on. I think in previous contexts around
mixed-use developments I have -- I have said, you know, there are a lot of projects that
on their own in a vacuum are great, but you kind of can salami slice away certain things
that we are looking for at a community level. So, I -- I think where I'm at is I -- I am okay
with supporting this and against counting the -- the space on the other side of the creek
against the usable -- against the open space, kind of what we were talking about, but --
but I think there is a larger discussion to be had about how this -- this area I think we
need to kind of -- and I don't know -- I don't know what the -- what the process is, but I
think some -- someone needs to account for the fact that there is a regional park. I don't
feel comfortable making it any individual applicant and so I -- I'm concerned that there
might need to be something at a city level, at a planning level to account for that.
Perreault: Mr. Vice-Chair?
Smith: Commissioner Perreault.
Perreault: I agree with you in regards to more research being done and -- and the
Commission potentially not making a recommendation to leave that natural or not, just
kind of allow Council to -- to go down that road, since it will be something that they will
need to address with the UDC limitations. I would absolutely prefer the applicant move
those amenities to another location, meet the -- the required open space, obviously, by
code and I'm not as concerned about the open space, because there are some parks in
the city of Boise -- there is Peppermint Park down on Cloverdale. It's kind of around the
corner. There is Kleiner Park, which is really not all that far and -- and so I'm not as
concerned about that. It would be nice for somebody to -- you know, place to take their
dog and whatnot, but there is many, many multi-family developments in this area that --
that are surrounded by park -- parking lots and concrete and -- and just don't -- don't
have that. Do I want another one that doesn't have it? No. But I don't feel like this
project is like an island unto itself and -- and we are, you know, five miles from -- from a
regional park. I mean Kleiner is essentially two miles, two and a half miles from there.
So -- so, I'm not as much concerned about that. I appreciate that the applicant has
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worked with staff to resolve some of these other variety of other kind of more technical
issues, so I think I have addressed everything. If I haven't let me know.
Smith: Commissioner Perreault, I think -- I think you -- you got everything. Commission
Stoll.
Stoll: So, my recollection from the public comments that we received was this --
previously this is part of a larger project that was proposed that the landowners had
decided not to go forward with it and I really wish that this had been part of a larger
proposal, but the application that we are dealing with today is limited to the size of this
property and so those are the issues that we are challenged with trying to make a
decision on. I can see staff's viewpoint on what the UDC says about natural waterways
being left open and not tiling them and enclosing them, but I also can see the point of
providing access to the property owner to that parcel to meet the open space. Either
way from the open space calculation I think that meets that criteria that we have and I
don't see a need to remove the -- I guess it's a southern building from what the
applicant is proposing. As long as they move the amenities to a different location I am
comfortable letting -- punting to City Council and letting them decide whether they want
to enclose the waterway or leave it open. I would also like to leave the option for folks
to pursue the bridge if the waterway is left open and that's -- those are my thoughts.
Smith: Commissioner Perreault?
Perreault: I would like to clarify my thoughts on what Commissioner Stoll just shared. I
would like to see the -- the waterway -- if -- if this is the decision of Council, I would like
to see it closed. See it tiled. I would prefer there not be a bridge over an open
waterway and that's just my preference. But, again, you know, that's -- that's the
decision of City Council, so --
Smith: Commissioner Sandoval, do you have anything -- any thoughts you wanted to
add?
Sandoval: Mr. Chair, no, I think it's already been laid out here from everyone really well.
It's interesting that portion that is pretty much cut off from the rest, but as presented I
think it looks good and we should move it on and let City Council make a decision.
Smith: All right. I guess does -- would anyone like to make a motion? I can make one
if -- okay. Want to leave that option on the table. Okay. So, after considering all staff,
applicant and public testimony I move to recommend approval to City Council of file
number H-2025-0004 as presented in the staff report with a modification to require that
amenities be move -- moved to a different location south of the creek and to not make a
recommendation about piping and covering and pathing the creek toward the
northernmost battery. Any questions?
Stoll: I will second, just so that we can have --
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Smith: Sure.
Stoll: -- discussion on the motion.
Smith: I can -- I can -- I'm happy to amend. Yeah.
Stoll: So, I think the staff report states that they would remove the one building. I can't
remember what --
Smith: Yeah. So, I think that was the two options that are --
Stoll: Are you -- are you saying that you want -- you want to allow to remove the
building?
Smith: No. So -- so, Nick was essentially -- and correct me if I'm wrong, but,
essentially, the -- the question was if we move the amenities south do we want to count
that toward the total open space or kind of require kind of-- from our discretion that they
remove that additional building to kind of gain additional open space? I'm of the -- the
thought that I don't think they need to remove that building. I would be in favor of -- to
moving it south, not moving the unit. So, that was the intention of -- of my motion. I
guess, Nick, is there anything -- okay.
Napoli: That clarifies it. Thank you.
Smith: The second stands?
Stoll: Yep.
Smith: Okay. Cool. It's been moved and seconded. All those in favor, please, say
aye. Any opposed? Motion passes. All right. Thank you.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. TWO ABSENT.
4. Public Hearing for Tong (H-2025-0049) by Dara Tong, located at 485
E. Overland Rd.
A. Request: Annexation of approximately 0.496 acres of land from R1
in Ada County to the R-4 zoning district. The applicant entered into
an agreement with the city to annex within six months of receiving
City Utility Services due to a failed septic system.
Smith: Next up is Item No. 4, Annexation -- it says Tong Annexation, H-2025-0049. We
can begin with the staff report. Well -- so, we will start with the staff report and, then, we
can -- no. You are good. I will call you. You are good. Thank you.
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Ritter: Good evening, Commissioners. So, tonight we are looking at an annexation.
So, this is an annexation of 0.496 acres of land from R-1 in Ada county to the R-4
zoning district and it's located at 485 East Overland Road. So, the applicant entered
into an agreement with the city to annex within six months of receiving utility service due
to a failed septic system. No new development or redevelopment of this property is
being proposed at this time and the use will remain residential for the foreseeable
future. There is an existing outbuilding -- detached accessory structure on the property
that encroaches into the rear setback. Because no development is being proposed the
applicant must either remove the structure or obtain approval from City Council to allow
it to remain as a legal nonconforming grandfather structure. So, that's basically the gist
of this application. They are fulfilling their duty to come in and annex with the city after
receiving services. So, that's basically what I have for you.
Smith: Any questions for staff? Would the applicant like to come forward? And can we
begin with your name and address.
Tong: My name is Dara Tong and the address 485 East Overland Road.
Smith: Thank you. And, then, do you -- yeah, if you wanted to add any comments or
anything?
Tong: No, I don't have any comments. I'm good.
Smith: I guess I do have one question for you regarding that -- that outbuilding -- that
rear building and is it -- is the -- is your intention to ask City Council to allow that to be
grandfathered in, to not have to -- to not have to remove that structure?
Tong: The --
Smith: So -- yeah. So, the -- as staff was saying is you have a structure that's the
structure in the rear if we are looking at the -- this building -- or this map -- this image.
You have the structure here that the mouse is pointing to that doesn't conform. It's -- it's
not aligned with kind of what city code requires and so if -- from what the applicant -- or
from what staff is saying is that when we annex that either needs to be removed or you
can ask City Council to be grandfathered in. Is that to be -- to be allowed to -- to remain
there, because it was already there?
Tong: I didn't remove anything. It's just a --
Smith: Okay. So, the goal is to -- the goal is to not remove that? Is that -- I don't want
to -- I just want to make sure we have a proper understanding of the conversation --
Ritter: The conversation is he wants to keep the structure there.
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Smith: Okay. He wants to keep -- okay. Cool. Okay. Thank you. No, I will -- any --
any questions, Commission? Okay. Thank you. Madam Clerk, is there anyone signed
up to testify?
Lomeli: Thank you, Mr. Vice-Chair. No one has signed up.
Smith: Okay. Is there anything else you would -- you would like to add? Anything?
Okay. Thank you. Commissioner Perreault?
Perreault: Mr. Vice-Chair, I move that we close the public hearing for application Tong,
H-2025-0049.
Stoll: Second.
Smith: It's been moved and seconded. All those in favor say aye. Any opposed?
Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. TWO ABSENT.
Smith: I guess I will just add something. I -- I think based on -- I just wanted to make
sure we are clear about kind of the implications of that. I don't have a problem with
letting the -- the structure stay there. I would be comfortable even recommending to
City Council that that's what they do. Obviously, they can take that or leave it, but that
seems fine where it is. That's the only thing that I would add. But I don't know if anyone
else has thoughts.
Perreault: Mr. Vice-Chair?
Smith: Commissioner Perreault.
Perreault: I agree. I don't -- I don't have a concern about that accessory structure in the
back and would recommend to Council that we allow that to be left.
Smith: Commissioner Stoll, Commissioner Sandoval, anything you guys would like to
add?
Stoll: Just what do you guys have stated captures my sentiment.
Smith: If I can get a motion then.
Perreault: Mr. Vice-Chair?
Smith: Commissioner Perreault.
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Perreault: After considering all staff, applicant and public testimony, I move to
recommend approval to the City Council of File No. H-2025-0049 as presented in the
staff report for the hearing date of February 5th, 2026, with no modifications.
Smith: Is your intention to -- I guess I think if you -- if you wanted to recommend that
staff-- or the City Council keep that I think that would be a modification.
Perreault: Mr. Vice-Chair?
Smith: Commissioner Perreault.
Perreault: I wasn't of the understanding that staff was -- staff recommending that it be
removed? I didn't think staff was recommending it being removed. So, I don't think we
have to make that modification.
Smith: Okay. Okay. That's fine.
Stoll: Second.
Smith: All right. It's been moved and seconded. All those in favor say aye. Any
opposed? Motion carries. Thank you.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. TWO ABSENT.
5. Public Hearing continued from December 18, 2026 for Shafer View
Ridge Subdivision (H-2025-0047) by Gregg Davis, Breckon Land
Design, located at Lot 18 of the Shafer View Estates Subdivision at
the intersection of S. Meridian Rd. and E. Shafer View Dr.
A. Request: Annexation of 15.2 acres of land from RUT in Ada County
to the R-4 zoning district.
B. Request: Preliminary Plat consisting of 38 lots (29 building lots and
9 common lots) on 13.437 acres of land.
Smith: All right. Next on the list is -- next on the agenda is Item No. 5. That will be the
Shafer View Ridge Subdivision, Item H-2025-0047. We will begin with the staff report.
Ritter: Just a second. Sorry about that.
Smith: No worries.
Ritter: Misplaced a page of my stuff, so -- so, the next item is for an annexation and a
preliminary plat. It's an annexation and plat for an annexation of 15.2 acres of land from
RUT in Ada county to R-4 zoning districts and a preliminary plat consisting of 38 lots
and 29 -- 29 building lots and nine common lots on 13.437 acres. Apparently there is a
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discrepancy in my minimum lot size. It's supposed to be 8,030. 1 got excited in writing
these and the largest is the 24,000 square feet. So, the minimum lot size in the R-4
district is 8,000 square feet. This is your annexation exhibit. This is the preliminary
plan. So, access to this property will be via Meridian Road, which is an arterial, and
Mondt Meadows, which is a collector road. So, a couple of issues and waivers that are
being asked for on this. The block length exhibit. There is a waiver for the block length
as a block face for the proposed development on the south side of the existence street.
It exceeds the 750 feet requirement between South Snowdon Way and South Mondt
Meadows Way. So, the applicant will be requesting a waiver from City Council for that.
And at this time sewer is not available to the eastern portion of development, but sewer
-- and sewer is dependent upon the Mondt Meadows Subdivision bringing sewer to and
through to the development. The final plat for Mondt Meadows has been approved
already, so they will be moving forward with their final plat signature, so they can start
putting those improvements in. And there is one common driveway with this
development as you see outlined here. This is their landscape plan. So, we have a ten
foot pathway along Meridian Road. We have a five foot pathway along the southern
portion of the property with landscaping on both sides of that pathway. We do have
amenities in this area. We have a playground and a bench as you can see here, along
with our open space exhibit. So, they do exceed their open space exhibit. They are
required to have 12 percent, which is 1.61 acres and they have 22 percent, which is
3.04 acres. So, they do exceed that. They submitted six conceptual building elevations
and so what they -- buildings are designed with the elevations that create interest
through the use of broken plains, windows, fenestration that produce a rhythm of
materials and patterns. Design review is not required for single family detached
structures, but because the specs of -- it's along Meridian Road we are asking that --
that the rear and sides of the homes that are facing Meridian be incorporated with
articulation through changes in -- to a more -- the following modulation, projections,
recess setbacks, pop outs, base banding, porches, balconies, these type of things that
we are looking forward to break up the -- just the plain structure and as you can see
from the design of these it looks like they have done a lot of that. Single stories are not
included in that. So, the irrigation district -- the Boise-Kuna Irrigation District has some
requirements for this application and the applicant is aware of this and the purpose of
this requirement is to ensure that the patrons have the use of their water as they have
historically and that no harm has been incurred from the newly proposed development.
Adjoining landowners will not have their conveyance ditches altered or restricted
regarding water entering or departing their respective properties. So, the applicant will
have to meet these requirements with the irrigation district. They submitted a letter with
these requirements. Again as this property is in close proximity to a state highway,
noise abatement is required. The applicant is proposing to use the existing cut bank
along Meridian Road, which will act as a berm and, then, combination with a wall
extending ten feet above the -- the highway center line. There -- the fence will be
designed to incorporate architectural elements and to break up this -- monotonous wall
plains as required. So, they are meeting that requirement for noise abatement. And
this is a table from the school district showing what the program capacity is for the
middle school and the number of students they have for the elementary school and the
number of students they have enrolled, as well as a high school -- the middle school
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and the high school. So, we try to call out -- I try to call out what the schools have sent
us, because I know this is kind of something that you guys and the Council like to see.
So, we did have written testimony on this. So, Debbie Boyd submitted comments that it
was like a -- a letter and had a bunch of signatures from some of the homeowners, so
she was representing the Shafer View Estates HOA. So, the concern -- the safety
concerns regarding this was increased traffic volumes on the existing roadways and its
impact to motorists and pedestrians. The addition of homes from the proposed Shafer
View Ridge and approved Sky Ranch Subdivision can be expected to significantly
increase daily traffic on Shafer View Drive, since currently the single line road
possesses -- poses safety hazards due to a limited visibility, especially when turning
onto Meridian Road or Shafer View Drive and the view corridor is further impacted by a
rise to the south. Drivers must pull past the white line for a clear view and the traffic
rarely adheres to 55 miles per hour speed limit. The lack of a deceleration lane forces
many to use the side medium, which is unsafe. Turning from north onto Shafer View
Drive is completely -- it's complicated by blind spots caused by road curvature, making it
hard to see parked cars or oncoming vehicles and she had also mentioned something
about where the school bus stop is located, it used to be on Meridian Road, but they
moved it inward on Shafer View Lane, helping to reduce that issue. But, apparently
that's still a concern. So, based on this information staff is recommending approval of
this application with the conditions that are outlined in our staff report and with that I will
be happy to stand for any questions that you may have.
Smith: Thank you. Are there any questions for staff? All right. Would the applicant like
to come forward. Begin with your name and address.
Breckon: Jon Breckon. 6661 Glenwood Street, Garden City. I have a presentation to
walk through here and I guess, you know, a couple things to add. You know, we had a
good time working through this with -- with Linda and -- and team. It's a challenging
project just because it's kind of in-fill and an odd shape and you may remember when
we came through with the Mondt Meadows project previously to the south -- we have
been working on both of these projects together. Mondt Meadows is almost approved
through land design. We are waiting on final improvement from ACHD for an easement
and, then, I look forward to starting construction on that project and that's the one to the
south that we connect to and I will -- I will probably go pretty quickly through some of
these slides. I think Linda covered most of the overview stuff. I just wanted to add a
little more detail. So, here is the Mondt Meadows project to the south and it connects to
Sublimity Avenue on the east side, which is a collector street, and that -- actually, I will
keep going, because I have got a better slide. Speak to that one. The zoning and how
we fit into that -- that zoning context. Sky Ranch to the south has a -- has a higher
density and, then, we have been in -- part of our goal on this project is to have a
transition between Sky Ranch and, then, we have got some existing one acre lots on
the north and east and, then, previous Shafer View project that the R-4 to the northwest
there. Here is our school locations that Linda mentioned. Services. Fire stations. I
have got -- that are close by and, then, here is kind of our overall plan and you can see
-- you know, one of the things we did to -- to buffer the Sky Ranch to the south is have
that -- that nice common area and landscape buffer with a pathway that connects from
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that westerly street all the way over to the east of Mondt Meadows Way. Here is a little
connectivity map that speaks to traffic circulation a little bit. Just for overall and
adjacency. You can see Meridian Road there on -- on the west and we did explore
options there. That letter that was sent in spoke to the access off of Shafer View Drive.
We actually did quite a bit of work to change that access off Shafer View Drive, so that it
would be moved further to the south, essentially aligning with where we have that
proposed driveway and, then -- oh, the mouse does work. Yeah. Right here where that
driveway is. We were going to -- we were going to move this -- we were going to block
this off and do a turnaround and we -- we looked at that concept and we were going to
move the access down here, but it ended up being cost prohibitive. So, we talked to the
ITD, they were going to require us to install thousand feet of a concrete buffer, which is
part of their long-term plan for Meridian Road is to have a center median all the way
through there and, then, turn Shafer View Drive into a right-in, right-out. So, anyway,
we -- we did make some modifications in any case there to help with the safety of it.
Right now as you exit Shafer View Drive onto Meridian Road there is a -- the
embankment on the south side is very -- is -- kind of blocks the view, so you can't really
see the oncoming traffic very well and so you can see we have got that triangle shaped
lot right there where we are going to -- we are going to grade that -- that whole hillside
back, so you can -- you can see the oncoming traffic. The other thing we did was --
based on neighborhood meeting was we relocated -- we shifted this driveway
connection over so that headlights would not shine into the house across the street. It's
aligned with a common lot right next to it and, then, overall traffic circulation -- I don't
really have a plan -- actually I think I might have a plan of -- of the Sky Ranch to the
south. I can show you that later if you would like to see it. But, you know, you can see
the red arrows here that show traffic connectivity and circulation. Like I said, Mondt
Meadows is -- you know, we anticipate starting construction on that very soon and,
then, that would be a connection point here and, then, that all connects over to
Sublimity Avenue, which is a collector street and it also connects up and over to Quartz
Creek, which connects to Meridian Road. Here is the block length item Linda
mentioned. You know, Shafer View Drive, existing road, and, then, you know, as I
mentioned trying to lay this out proved quite challenging. We went through several
revisions to get it to work and -- and to get lot sizes to -- to transition as you can see
and so we are -- we are slightly over that 750 foot threshold between these two access
points. Another item was ACHD was -- or I think actually the -- excuse me -- the city
was wanting to -- wanted us to build a sidewalk on the north side through here and kind
of went back and forth trying to work that out. We had landed on doing a -- a striped
pedestrian route on the road, so that we wouldn't be tearing up the people's front yards
and ACHD was not supportive of that, but, you know, part of what we are planning is to
extend crosswalks for -- you know, we are doing a curb, gutter, sidewalk on the south
side and all the new -- within the new development and, then, connecting up to the
neighborhoods to the north with crosswalks where there is sidewalk over on the -- on
the west side. And I have got some detail here on utility connections. You know, water,
we are connecting to the west and, then, also to Mondt Meadows to the south. Here is
the irrigation or, I beg your pardon, the sewer map. So, the east side -- the way this
grades out east side will sewer to the east and connect to Mondt Meadows and, then,
the west side sewers to the west and connects to the existing sewer. Shafer. Oh,
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Irrigation. Irrigation. This was -- this was a fun one, too. So, it was good that we go to
work on both these projects at the same time, particularly on the irrigation front. There
is -- so, our head gate is a little off the map here to the north and, then, there is a pipe --
you can see it right here that comes down and has historically fed gravity irrigation to
this property Mondt Meadows and, then, the neighbors to the south and -- and these
folks down here and -- and they -- you know, we found out as part of this and working
on the Mondt Meadows project, they -- they really don't get their irrigation water just
because of the grading it's just -- they -- they can't get it there. They tried and had a lot
of issues with that and so what we agreed to was to do a joint pump station with a -- an
irrigation pond at this location and -- and, then, do a pressurized irrigation system that
would not only serve this development, but Mondt Meadows and, then, these neighbors
to the south that are adjacent and so I was just reviewing that the other day. I think we
have got that all figured out. This is a picture of the playground that we are proposing
and the open space. Open space. And the -- and the homes. Stand for questions.
Smith: Commissioners have any questions?
Perreault: Mr. Vice-Chair?
Smith: Commissioner Perreault.
Perreault: Can you tell us the -- the width or the -- I should say maybe the depth of that
transition -- that landscape transition between -- on the south side and also kind of how
the lots will line up? I can kind of see very faintly the -- the grid lines here, but help us
understand more about that transition. It looks like that there is a lot of density in Sky
Ranch in comparison to this.
Breckon: There is. I think -- Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, there is -- yeah. This
landscape buffer through here, that was one of the reasons we wanted to have that in
there is because we do have a bit of a jump on the -- on the lot sizes and you -- yes, on
this one in particular you can see, you know, these are -- these are quite dense and --
and so in order to provide a nice buffer there -- now the width of it -- I don't remember
the width of it off the top of my head. It's 15 or 20 feet. Is it 20? Twenty wide. So, it's
-- it's comfortable I guess I would say. I think it will be -- I think it will serve its purpose
there, so that we can get some sizable trees in there and -- and provide a -- a decent
buffer. Fencing as well is per code. Yes. So, we have got -- see if I can remember. It
would be solid fence on both sides of that, I believe, because of the backyards.
Smith: Could you explain why ACHD wasn't supportive of -- or isn't supportive of the
sidewalk or -- or path on the north side?
Breckon: Mr. Chairman, yes. So, that -- I'm just going to go back to that slide. I don't
know if I have a road section of it, but -- so, there is an existing road there and those
one acre lots are -- they are still in the county and so county standards -- there was --
when they were built there was no requirement for a sidewalk at that time and so there
was never a sidewalk installed there. There is a curb and gutter, but no sidewalk. And
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so, you know, beings what it is, an in-fill project, staff wanted us to install a sidewalk
along there for those -- those three folks then -- through their yard and -- and, you know,
that would disrupt everything they got going on in their front yard. Anyway, that -- the --
the pathway, what we were trying to get in there, was a striped pedestrian way. So, I
guess it would be similar to a bike path, right, where you have a -- a separate stripe to
delineate a pedestrian area from the drive aisle, if that makes sense, and they were not
supportive of that.
Smith: So, I guess to -- to -- to clarify or -- or to give additional context, in our prep
meeting and make -- and to make sure I guess I'm on the right page -- in our prep
meeting I was under the impression there -- there is an existing pathway coming off of
Meridian on the north side that connects -- or that -- that end somewhere, is -- is that
right?
Breckon: There -- there -- there is -- there is -- so, there is one -- this -- this previous
phase of, you know, Shafer, this was done just a few years ago where these three lots
-- this all connects up to the north and, then, these green lots here are the -- the older
one acre lots and so, you know, when these -- when these went in more recently they
have curb, gutter and sidewalk and so that sidewalk -- this dead ends here at the -- I -- I
don't remember if it's at the common lot or at the end of this lot and so that's -- I think
that's what we were trying to do is, you know, connect that sidewalk and extend it along
this frontage over -- over to this east side. Now, we have got, you know, curb, gutter,
sidewalk on -- on the south side and so, you know, I guess, our -- our fix or -- or
whatever you want to call it was to provide a crosswalk that would connect from the
north to the south and, then, you know, people can walk along a sidewalk on the south
side and, then, also provide another crosswalk over on this side. So, if these folks want
to walk over and enjoy the park they can -- they at least have a crosswalk there and
stuff.
Smith: So, I believe we have eight feet of right of way. Is there anything -- because,
personally, I don't like just that -- just nothing happening there. I don't like the lack of
connection there and just letting that kind of -- just kind of be in a state of -- of being
incomplete. So, we have eight foot of right of way, five feet of-- five foot stripe attached
-- you know, attached pedestrian walkway. Is there anything outside of ACHD's
displeasure, if they have done -- you know, is there anything that would preclude you
from being able to do that if that was a requirement?
Breckon: Oh, besides ACHD? I -- Mr. Commissioner, I don't think so.
Smith: I mean I guess the question for staff is that's city right of way, is it not? Is that --
does ACHD have the ability to control -- that seems like that would also be a city --
that's city street.
Parsons: Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission, it's -- it's all ACHD right of way.
It's not the city's purview.
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Smith: Oh, it is.
Parsons: Yeah.
Smith: Okay.
Parsons: Correct. It's -- we defer to them. I know Linda and I tried hard to understand
why we wouldn't do sidewalk and -- because we do have comprehensive plan policies
that say complete streets are required or desired as part of the Comprehensive Plan
and we all understand it's difficult when you have a county subdivision and, then, you
are building around it, trying to get the infrastructure to align with what's currently in the
area. Historically in these types of situations we would prefer to have the property
owner's agreement, because it does impact their property. There is landscaping and
those -- there is a lot of obstructions in the way and that's why ACHD kind of said, well,
we are -- we are not going to require the sidewalk and so the applicant worked with us --
we thought, well, could we stripe it? They are like, well, you know, if -- we don't need
the striping and so we kind of landed on the crosswalks where they were.
Smith: Okay.
Parsons: But we -- at staff we still felt it was important to have some kind of pedestrian
delineation on the -- on the north side of the road, whether it was striping or the existing
sidewalk and that's why in our staff report we left the condition as approved by ACHD.
That way if they say, yes, the applicant can do it. If they say, no, the applicant can meet
the condition, so --
Smith: Okay.
Parsons: So, we left it pretty -- pretty open-ended for the ACH -- the road authority,
transportation authority, to make that -- that call. Again, this one's going in front of City
Council as well, so if-- if Council -- I'm sure they will weigh in on that topic as well.
Smith: Thank you. Sorry, I was under the impression arterials and collectors are ACHD
and local roads are Meridian. I know it's not always cut and dry. In this case I guess -- I
guess not. It's not. Okay. Thank you. Commissioners, any other questions?
Commissioner Stoll?
Stoll: So, the sequencing of all the projects is what I'm kind of struggling with. So, the --
the development to the north that was part of Ada county. Is it Ada county approved?
How -- how long ago was that? And you all were -- you and the developer -- same
developer did it or is it different?
Breckon: No. Mr. -- Commissioner Stoll, the -- the -- yes, the area that's in the county I
think -- this -- this shows it. Yeah. So, we have got these -- these gray lots here, that's
still in the county and that was done when the -- 2003.
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Stoll: The Mondt Meadows is the -- you were involved in that one?
Breckon: Yes, sir.
Stoll: Is that under the county or is that under the city?
Breckon: That is city and that --
Stoll: How long ago was that?
Breckon: That was approved just last year.
Stoll: Last year.
Breckon: Yes.
Stoll: And, then, Sky Ranch -- Ranch coming our way.
Breckon: That has already been approved.
Stoll: It's already been approved.
Breckon: Yes.
Stoll: Okay. When was that? Sorry? I'm new, so -- pardon?
Breckon: 2024.
Stoll: Okay. So, how come they didn't all come together?
Breckon: Well, Commissioner Stoll, I -- I do not know. You know, we -- we tried to get
at least these two to go together, but the -- the different ownership and ownership of
Mondt Meadows didn't want to wait and so I moved forward and -- yes. I mean in reality
if -- if we can get -- you know, if -- if we achieve approval here relatively soon on -- on --
on this project construction of -- of the Mondt Meadows and this project could
essentially happen at the same time. We will start at one and kind of work our way
through the other one would be kind of the expectation.
Stoll: Was there a traffic impact analysis required for Sky Ranch?
Breckon: I'm not sure about that. I -- I don't think so.
Ritter: They did not require one, because there had been one done in this area
previously and so they went off of that and it was more of a rezone, so it -- because it
was already annexed in.
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Smith: Thank you. Any other questions? Commissioner Sandoval, do you have any
questions?
Sandoval: No. Thank you.
Smith: All right. Okay. Well, thank you. Continue to public comment. Madam Clerk, is
anyone signed up to testify?
Lomeli: Thank you, Mr. Vice-Chair. We have Gail Ward.
Smith: And if we could begin with your name and address.
Ward: Yes. My name is Gail Ward. 152 East Shafer View Drive. I have some
pictures. Can I give them to you? Okay.
Smith: Pass them around.
Ward: Thank you. That's just some pictures that I have taken that shows you a little bit
of traffic on our street on Shafer View. I was going to say that, you know, our Shafer
View Drive was designed for 15 homes in a rural area. Now, you have got Shafer View
Ridge is coming in with 29 homes. You have got 188 homes coming in in Sky Ranch,
which there was never traffic studies done for that and you have got them all channeling
and funneling to Shafer View Drive. So, you have got 230 homes coming down Shafer
View Drive, which is not accommodating for them any cars -- or for that many homes.
It's just a small road and as you can see the pictures that I gave you you can see when
cars are parked on the street how hard it is to get by. There has been many times with
those constructions of those three homes that have come in on our street that just gives
you a demonstration of how we have had to maneuver to get out of our road and
coming into the road. There is blind spots, there is curves and, then, as you could see
at the first page it's a slope down. Even, you know, learning tonight, you know, where
they are wanting to take out that one lot and making -- taking part of that hill, it's still
going to be a hard one to see, because Meridian Road to the south of it from Lake
Hazel -- it's got a slope, so we have to pull way out to even be able to -- oh, excuse me
-- to see the traffic as it comes down and I mean they are not going just 55. 1 go about
55 and I -- they -- I think I'm sitting still sometimes because they pass us so quickly.
And so you have to -- you can't even see them until they are up on you and if it's getting
dark or dusk you -- you can't even go out, because the traffic -- you don't know which
lane they are in and so you have to sit there until you are up on it and if you have got
these 230 homes and they have all got at least one car or more and they are coming
out on Shafer View to get out to Meridian Road -- I mean it's just going to be a
nightmare. It -- it just can't -- I -- I mean it's just not going to work. Anyway. And, then,
when you have Shafer -- or Costco coming in only a half a mile, that's going to increase
traffic, which it's going to be even harder for us to even get out of our street. I have sat
there sometimes five, six minutes just to get out onto Meridian Road turning right, not
turning left, but just turning right. So, you can imagine if you have got that many cars
backed up on Shafer View Drive trying to get out on Meridian Road what that's going to
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do? It's -- it's terrible. And, then, learning tonight about the sidewalks, you know, to
cross the street, you know, to go walking on the -- you know, the south side of the -- the
road, I mean how are you going to get across when you have got that much traffic
zooming on Shafer View Drive? I mean that's dangerous to have people in a crosswalk
trying to even get to another sidewalk. We, as a subdivision, did you say that we would
be happy to close off and -- and, you know, Shafer View Drive, which would be great.
We would have to travel farther -- farther, but that's okay to us. I do understand that it's
an expense for the new developer and the new subdivision, but there would be a
straight line of traffic. They would be able to have a straight road to Meridian Road. It
would be straight on Meridian Road. They wouldn't have to see any hills or anything.
The traffic -- you know, they would be able to access a lot better on Meridian Road.
even though taking out that one lot you are still going to have that incline on Meridian
Road, which is going to still be dangerous for that much traffic to -- to go out onto
Meridian Road from Shafer View. So, I'm just begging you to please not pass this
through yet until more traffic study is done, that this is going to be an accident waiting to
happen. Our neighbor got hit on the subdivision going -- with a car going a hundred
miles an hour. So, something needs to be done before building can proceed. So, I beg
you that you would look at those pictures, see what we are talking about and take that in
consideration before this is approved. Thank you.
Smith: Thank you. Oh, if you had -- Commissioner Perreault, do you have a question?
Perreault: Yes. Thank you for being here. So, you are in the -- you are in the county
parcels; correct?
Ward: Yes.
Perreault: So, I'm really surprised there is this many cars parked on that street given
the lot sizes that you have. Are they construction vehicles?
Ward: Those -- some are construction, some are looking at the homes, you know, to --
for sale. But you figure people have company. We have company. And so they park
on both sides. So, you got this one lane road that you are going to have cars on both
sides and with the new subdivision those houses are going to be facing Shafer View,
too. So, you have got houses -- we are going to be looking at more houses in front of
us and if you are parking in front of your house or you have company -- and we are, you
know, having company, there is going to be cars and there is going to be hardly any
traffic -- you could never get two cars by, especially as fast as they go. You just -- it's
going to be a nightmare.
Perreault: Mr. Vice-Chair?
Smith: Commissioner Perreault.
Perreault: So, cars parking on both sides of the street is allowed publicly in every
subdivision.
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Ward: Right.
Perreault: So, you are saying what's unique to your subdivision is that the -- that there
is curves and that is making the line of sight more difficult? The applicant said that they
are going to take down some of that big berm that's on the south side, so that folks can
have more of that view, you know, for those coming --
Ward: It doesn't take out the slope coming on Meridian Road. There is a slope that
comes down from Lake Hazel to our street and you can't see beyond that. So, that
doesn't -- yes, it may open it up and you can see maybe a little bit better, but you still
can't see up that hill or what's beyond that hill, so -- but that's different than our --
parking on our street. Parking on our street you are going to have cars on both sides
and, then, you are going to have traffic in the middle of it. You have got 230 homes that
are accessing Shafer View with cars parked on both sides.
Perreault: Mr. Vice-Chair?
Smith: Commissioner Perreault.
Perreault: So, I have been doing this for about ten years now and in my experience
most folks try to take the shortest route to get to the main roads. So, I haven't seen the
-- the map of -- it's been a couple years, so I have -- I don't remember the map of Sky
Ranch and where those folks are kind of driving out to get to. I assume they are going
to Lake Hazel and Meridian Road. So, I -- I don't know what you mean when you there
is 200 and some homes that will be accessing Shafer View. I would be really surprised
if Sky Ranch was going through there --
Ward: If they want to go to Meridian Road they can. It's accessible to them. So, if they
-- otherwise they can't get to Meridian Road. They would either have to go to Lake
Hazel or they have to go towards Locust Grove. They cannot go to Meridian Road
unless they access Shafer View Drive.
Perreault: Yes, they can -- if they can access Lake Hazel, then, they can make a right
onto Meridian Road at the light; correct?
Ward: That is correct. So, I'm sure all the ones closer to Lake Hazel will do that, but
the ones closer to us -- probably going to be using our road.
Smith: Commissioners, any other questions?
Ward: Thank you.
Smith: Madam Clerk, is there anyone else signed up to testify?
Lomeli: The next person signed up is Mary Ward.
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Smith: And if you could state your name and address for the record.
Ward: Excuse me. Mary Ward. 152 Shafer View. Thanks for taking our -- our
comments, Commissioners. This has been quite a -- a process for us and our
subdivision. Even a few things have come to light tonight that weren't expected as far
as some of the things that have been proposed that we had not heard of recently. As
you have heard, the -- the road design is -- is fairly old. From edge of asphalt to edge
asphalt is only 32 feet. So, if you park a car on each side you have got -- you can't get
two cars to go past that. The main -- the main problem is -- if I can get this -- is there
another -- well, anyway, coming into Shafer View right here that -- that -- coming off on
Meridian Road you are about four or five foot difference in height for Meridian Road to
the -- the height of Shafer View. So, you are coming into there, you are coming on and
as soon as you make the little crest on there it makes a right turn and, then, you go
about a house length, a house and half length, and, then, you make another left turn.
So, it's -- it's -- it's kind of convoluted in there and with the traffic on Meridian Road
nobody hits that little hill at 15 miles an hour, which is the posted speed limit -- or 20
miles an hour, so it's -- it's all kind of coming around there and I am just a little worried
about what's going to happen with this extra traffic and the Sky Ranch has no access to
Meridian Road without going through a different subdivision of some kind. That down
here -- where did my -- where did my mouse go? There it is. Right in here there is --
there is no access. The reason for the proposal was to -- to allow the traffic that's --
that's -- the street that comes in off of Sky Ranch and goes up into this was to put that
little road right there, because right where that road is -- is -- it's flat with the little hill
that's there. So, people coming down Meridian Road past Lake Hazel coming down
and it has a little dip down, so if you are down in our little dip and looking to the -- to the
south you can't tell exactly where all those cars are coming from. At night when the
headlights are on you can't tell which lane those folks are in until they are almost there.
So, that's -- that's been a -- a real -- a real big concern. I mean we -- we deal with it
now, because that's what we are used to. Have been there for 22 years. But it just
keeps increasing with all the traffic that's coming. So -- so, the line of sight with -- you
know, we don't always know when people are visiting. If you have cars on both sides
emergency access equipment is going to have a hard time. So, anyway, those are kind
of my thoughts and I appreciate your time.
Smith: Thank you. Commissioner Perreault, do you have a question?
Perreault: Vice-Chair, yes. I think I remember you from the application to the -- or the
subdivision to the north. Did you come?
Ward: I was -- I was going to thank you for that, but I didn't think any of you have been
here on -- when we did that, so --
Perreault: Oh, my goodness. No, I have -- I have been either on Planning and Zoning
or City Council since 2017. So, I remember a lot of these.
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Ward: You did make some concessions for us when we put those three lots there and I
do appreciate that. I have -- so, that was -- that was a good consideration. But now
they are kind of in the middle of that whole thing that's going on, so --
Perreault: I do remember having a lot of conversation about this access and the slope
and no left turn lane into -- into the subdivision and I'm -- I'm not recalling off the top of
my head what concessions the developer made, but I was of the understanding that
they were supposed to -- to -- to make some improvements to that, so the line of sight
was better. Is that not the case or --
Ward: Nothing was changed as far as the line of sight for the road. All of the entryway
has stayed exactly the same as it was when that approval was made. The one
concession that the -- that the Council -- City Council made was for them to put in
circular driveway or some way, so that they didn't have to back out onto the road. Well,
there is no circular driveways in those three houses, but they do have kind of larger
driveways, so that they could back out of the garage and -- and come out forward. So,
that they kind of -- they kind of did that, but it wasn't exactly what City Council
recommended at that time.
Perreault: Okay. Thank you.
Ward: Yeah.
Smith: Thank you very much.
Ward: Thank you.
Smith: Madam Clerk?
Lomeli: Mr. Vice-Chair, the next person is J.R. Hawkins.
Smith: Would you state your name and address for the record.
Hawkins: J.R. Hawkins. I live at 7034 Catfish Creek and that was my mother-in-law
and father-in-law and we go over to their house and visit on a regular basis and when I
-- we have been going over there with the new construction, with the contractors just
parking their vehicles besides those, that's when it was a real eye opener of it doesn't
take much traffic to where that's going to end up being a very dangerous area and I just
wanted to stress to you guys, please, do a proper analysis of that street before opening
that up, because I hate seeing -- and I have seen it time and time again -- where we go
the easiest route -- it's not always the best route and, then, when something bad
happens, then, we change it and I just really wanted to, please, stress do a proper
analysis of that street before we open it up to more traffic. Thank you.
Maria Lorcher, Commission President, 2-19-2026
Smith: Thank you. Excuse me. Thank you. Madam Clerk.
Chris Johnson, City Clerk
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Lomeli: Thank you, Mr. Vice-Chair. The next person -- I apologize with the handwriting
I can't quite tell. Is it Oriole or -- first initial O. Last name starts with an M. I'm not sure.
Smith: And if we can get your name and address for the record.
Morgan: Dave Morgan. 498 East Shafer View Drive. I'm also the acting president for
the last 20 years now for Shafer View Estates. So, kind of speaking also for the other,
what, 13 homes that aren't here, so -- yeah. As far as the entrance on that, I know
that's -- it doesn't meet current view corridor requirements for that. A lot of thing is, too,
since the houses on that do face, you know, south you will have company that does --
going to park on -- you know, they park in the front of the house if somebody comes
over, which, then, narrows that down. Whereas if you had the entrance more to the
south those lots are aligned -- that's the sides. So, just basically -- basically cars can
come in, get in, you are either going straight or -- oops. Sorry. Off to the left. So, it
makes the flow a little bit better with that and, like I said, we were willing to -- the whole
subdivision have it blocked off. You could even put a nice bus stop down there,
because a lot of times we do get -- of course in the winter it's not just the kids coming
out and the parents come down, they park their cars and, then, wait until the bus gets
there and, then, let their kids out, so -- which cranks it down and I do know in wintertime
a lot of times we have had -- I have had a couple cars run off into our entrance trying to
turn in, because they are -- you know, they are going probably too fast for the situation,
but a lot of times even coming in in dry conditions if they are not -- you know, everybody
is going -- they -- I think that's highway -- not Highway 69, it's probably Interstate 69 is
what it's kind of turning into, but -- and I do know that's supposed to go seven lanes
here at some point at least to Lake Hazel and I'm guessing that will probably go maybe
all the way to at least first phase for Columbia due to Shopko being in there. So, I think
an entrance more to the south -- and if they need to do -- I know you may lose a lot on
that. Well, then, since they are at 21 percent, take a lot out of the -- reduce the open
space on the other side. Take it somewhere. They will still be within the parameters.
And, yeah, the sidewalk is a new thing. I know those three. Of course, Mary and Gail
will be in the first house there. The other two houses -- all your light posts that we have
everybody install for our subdivision, all your mailboxes, everything is all right in that
and I don't think any -- none of them really care if they have a sidewalk in front of their
house just to go to cross the street to another sidewalk. You know, we have been doing
it for 25 years now, so it's not that big of a deal and, then, I'm not quite sure on -- I
hadn't seen before that second entrance coming in down past the third lot, if that
necessarily also has to be an entrance, because that's going to tend to feed more traffic
in the Shafer for the people on that side. Yeah. I guess it'd be -- oh. Yeah. Anyway
right -- right there in that area there.
Smith: I got Mondt Meadows Way specifically or --
Morgan: Yeah. I'm sorry. What?
Smith: Are you talking about Mondt Meadows?
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Morgan: Yeah. Mondt -- you all -- no, not -- yeah, I guess Mondt Meadows Drive.
Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know we had that connecting into there, but -- that's -- of course
everybody from there is automatically going to feed onto that, too. So, that increases a
lot of your traffic on there. And, of course, I know for Sky Ranch, yeah, it's not
everybody, but, you know, you are going to get your 50-50. So, if that's 140 homes,
whatever, you are going to get at least 70 coming through there. Everybody is going to
go -- if you are close to Lake Hazel you are going to go that way. So, you are still going
to be over -- well over a hundred homes trying to go through that. So, that's why we
would just prefer to have it -- do it the other way, so -- and we know eventually, too, we
are not going to get a left out. Once they go to seven lanes it's right-in, right-out. So,
it's like whatever. If it's a couple years early that -- that's -- that's okay. We know we
are going to lose that -- maybe -- you are taking your life in your own hands going to
Kuna, but that -- we would be okay with shutting that off now. So, thank you very much.
Any questions for me?
Smith: Commissioners, any questions? Thank you very much.
Morgan: Thanks for your time.
Smith: Madam Clerk.
Lomeli: No one else has signed up and no one online has their hand raised.
Smith: Is there anyone else who would like to testify? All right. Would the applicant
likes come back forward?
Breckon: Jon Breckon. 6661 Glenwood Street. I think a couple things on this whole
circulation item. The one is there is a traffic study that was performed for this overall
development, which -- and I'm speaking for Sky Ranch, because that's the bigger
property to the south, a different developer, that -- we were not involved in that project,
so I don't really know the history of that. Now, I -- I do have -- actually, let me see -- I
have a print of Sky Ranch. I don't know if this is the latest version, but this was the one
that we were able to obtain when we were working on planning and connectivity. I don't
think this is the latest one, because I think we have since slid our southwestern
connection, which would be the -- the -- this northwest connection over, but it's -- it's
similar, so that we have got this for reference. One thing I would point out here is that --
actually, I will go back to the -- the previous one that I had just a second ago. I think
what you will find is that traffic study contemplates what's been improved for roadways,
the roadway connectivity and some of the upcoming improvements that are -- that are
planned. We all know that Meridian Road is very busy and it is planned to be widened.
I think it's three lanes each way, center median, and at that time Shafer View will very
much change from the way that it has been historically. It will go to a right-in, right-out
only and there will be a -- and we know this, because when we considered that we were
coordinating with ITD and looking at those various options and so it will be impossible to
make a left-hand turn to go to Kuna that way and I point that out, because part of this
overall plan is that everybody will, for the most part, go to the east first and go over to
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Sublimity Lane, down to Lake Hazel or up to Quartz Creek on the north where traffic
signal lights are and at -- you know, if you want to go down to Kuna you will have to go
down to Lake Hazel and, then, to the intersection and, then, take a left-hand turn at the
light and -- and so that's -- that's an important point to make. So, Mondt Meadows
coming in and in that connection to the east over through here will facilitate that
connection. Solemnity Avenue is a collector road and that will -- will be signalized and,
then, the other thing to consider is just the phasing of all this. The Sky Ranch, it's -- I
don't know how many phases it has. It's got a lot of phases. But they will start
construction on the east side, because that's where the sewer is and, then, move slowly
to the west and, then, at some point, once they finish up, they will connect up to where
we are -- have that stub road to the south for Standards. We have looked at many
many concepts on this and I would be happy to have a -- a dead end right there where
we have got that connection to the south, but that's not allowed. So, you know, I -- I
can't speak for the other developers. There has been other developers involved with
this, you know, the -- you know, there is the three lots to the north and on -- on the --
that -- that other Shafer project and, you know, I know one of the concessions we made
there was we had four lots in there at one point, we brought it down to three and, then,
the other thing I would point out here is on this -- on that corner that, you know, what we
are really -- I want this thing to be safe, too. I mean this -- this is -- the way it is right
now it's -- it's terrible. I have been out there. There is big conifer trees in the way. I
mean you can't -- you can't see. I mean you got to really kind of watch your P's and Q's
to -- to even to make a right-hand turn, so -- and so, you know, here you can see -- I
mean this is all -- I mean that's why this -- we have this gigantic common lot here so that
we can just cut that whole hillside back. This -- this -- this part of the road slopes and
so, you know, cut -- cut that all back so that you can see and you can see what -- we
moved our -- you know, one of the requirements, too, on Meridian Road, since it's an
interest to the city, is to have that berm -- ten foot berm with a with -- a -- a fence on it
and a nice landscape buffer and we have we designed -- we have actually designed
everything from here north up to Amity, but what you will see here is that at this location,
because of the safety concern, what we did is we pulled that berm back and that
landscape buffer back, so that it's at the back of these lots and so this will be very very
open, just turf area. So, it will really facilitate that -- that view. But, you know, all that to
be said, I mean once this connection is made to the east anybody wanting to travel
south will find that it's a lot easier to go to east down to Lake Hazel and, then, over,
instead of trying to take your life in your own hands and -- for the -- for the short term
and -- and make a left-hand turn on Meridian Road. So, they -- wanted to provide a little
bit of clarity there. The -- and, then, that connection to Sky Ranch, you know, yes, we
have that stub road there as we were required, but I would also note that that's -- that's
a few years out as far as phasing goes before that connection is actually made and
those folks will all, you know, be -- be traveling to the south and -- to Lake Hazel,
because that's where the -- the light is. Stand for any more questions.
Smith: Commission, questions? Commissioner Perreault.
Perreault: Mr. Vice-Chair, thank you. First I want to say thank you for this presentation.
We see some interesting ones and -- and your presentation is clear, so that's nice. So, I
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was just looking at -- and it might have changed, but I was just looking at the colored
rendering of Sky Ranch and how they -- their traffic was going to flow and if you
wouldn't mind bringing up your -- your traffic rendering as well. Not that one, the -- the
larger one you have. Yes. Excellent. So, the property to the south of Escalation Street
is still in the county, as well as that county parcel that has the -- has the home there.
and so there won't be any connection for Sky Ranch into that area anytime in the near
future; right? So, we kind of have to lose those -- those connections for a while and so
since that's the case anyone who is directly south of-- in -- in Sky Ranch of the -- of that
first curved street that we have here, they are likely going to go up through Shafer View
to get -- you know, to get out to Meridian. So, if I'm understanding correctly what you
are saying is that they would need to travel all the way south towards the waterway and
head out south on Sky Ranch to Sublimity in that -- in that southeast corner to get to
Lake Hazel and that the motivation for doing that would be to be able to be at the light?
Breckon: Commissioner Perreault, I'm going to go to this -- on here, because I think this
is what you are referring to on the circulation pattern in Sky Ranch. I don't know if it's
the same one you are looking at, but there -- these connections to the south I think is
what you are talking about.
Perreault: Yeah. Let me see. That -- that might have -- and so maybe that's where the
difference is. It may have changed since I last saw that. So, yes, so the -- so, you are
anticipating that anyone over here in this northwest corner of Sky Ranch is going to
head south and hit that Lake Hazel access?
Breckon: Commissioner Perreault, I -- I think that's anybody's guess, but I think it really
depends on which -- where they are wanting to go. I mean if you want to go down to --
if you want to go downtown Meridian you are -- you are going to want to get on Meridian
Road and go north and so, sure, I -- I would agree that there is going to be a -- a
component of people here that are going to short circuit and want to come out Shafer
View and go to the north. No, I -- I think what I was trying to point out is that, you know,
the phasing of -- of this project will start over on this east side and work its way over to
the northwest and as such, you know, these folks are all -- well, they are right there on
Lake Hazel. There is no reason for them to try to cut through the rest of the
development, even if they were planning on going to the north and, then, to your point
on, you know, the -- the -- the folks that are still in the county here just to the north there
is this roadway connection here, but that -- or one of the requirements was to gate that
off, so that -- well, that doesn't show it either. I will go back to the other one. So -- so
that all these folks will be required to come out on this Escalation Street and that will --
that will -- and -- and by doing that, then, they will go on Sublimity either to the north up
to Quartz Creek or to the south down -- down to Lake Hazel.
Smith: So, just to make sure I'm understanding right, that Sky Ranch thing, kind of that
-- the -- and I don't know, what is -- what is the name of this I guess curved street
immediately off of Meridian? So, I go to -- on to Shafer, right, and it's that -- that first
immediate right. This looks kind of-- yeah, this --
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Breckon: This one right here?
Smith: Yeah.
Breckon: Well, I think we have got three different street names there.
Smith: Okay. This is the one I'm referring to.
Breckon: The S curve. Yes.
Smith: It seems to me that most of the people in Sky Ranch -- just to make sure I'm
reading this right -- that westernmost connection to the north at Sky Ranch is this road,
right? Not Mondt Meadows. Mondt Meadows is the one that's kind of currently -- okay.
Breckon: Correct.
Smith: Okay. That's helpful. Thank you. Just wanted to make sure I'm aligned.
Commissioners, any other any other questions? Commissioner Stoll.
Stoll: Not a question, but I just wanted knowledge -- and apologize. I -- for some
reason I thought you all had developed Sky Ranch and that was my point of my
question earlier. Now that you have clarified -- and I appreciate that clarification that
you guys did not develop Sky Ranch, so --
Breckon: No problem, Commissioner Stoll, and I -- yeah, we were -- actually it was --
we had our hearing for Mondt Meadows same night as -- as Sky Ranch and, actually,
we were requesting that we had a little more transition than Sky Ranch, but, you know.
Stoll: I'm fine with the questions you guys have asked have answered my questions.
Smith: Any other questions, Commissioners? Commissioner Sandoval, do you have
any questions?
Sandoval: Mr. Vice-Chair, nothing for me.
Smith: Yeah. All right. Could I get a motion to close the public hearing?
Stoll: So moved.
Perreault: Second.
Smith: Moved and seconded. All those in favor say aye. Any opposed? Motion
carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. TWO ABSENT.
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Smith: Who wants to go first? Lot of thoughts.
Stoll: In-fill.
Smith: In-fill stuff. Commissioner Stoll.
Stoll: In general from a transportation viewpoint folks are going to go towards spots that
are going to make -- provide them the easiest access to the points that they want to go.
In some cases, because it's a right-in, right -- eventually a right-in, right-out onto Shafer
View Drive, some folks are not going to be taking that route. However, the layout of Sky
Ranch doesn't provide a lot of connectivity for -- given the volume of people they are
going to be there. There is going to be a large number of folks that are going to go
towards that S curve or whatever that road is and accessing Shafer View Drive. That is
going to be a challenge and has to be acknowledged. But I'm not sure -- I'm not sure
what else -- oh, I'm sorry. I'm not sure what the other solutions are on that. Providing
additional access onto Shafer View Drive is going to be even more problematic. I was
initially having a problem with the -- the lack of additional roads to provide access onto
that, but it provided additional traffic onto Shafer View Drive and would be an additional
burden. That was just my first thoughts. I will let you guys --
Smith: Yeah. I think my -- my -- my biggest issues are not in the hands of a developer.
I -- I don't like how Meridian Road operates there. It's not under the developer's control,
under the cities, even under Ada county's, it's under ITD's control and -- and that is
actually -- it's -- it's not ideal to say the least. I think when it comes to the conditions on
Meridian Road I understand there is likely to be more internal congestion in some areas.
I understand -- I'm actually not as concerned about traffic flowing from Mondt Meadows.
I do think the people who are likely to go directly to Meridian are in this western most
subdivision and so I think -- we call it Snowden, Lake Hasner Street, whatever --
whatever this -- this curve is, I think that's going to be the main source of access onto
Shafer View Drive from the south and -- and when I kind of do -- look at kind of the
number of houses I know it's -- there is the larger kind of congestion question, but I am
glad that there is things like that and so I -- I do think it's also kind of the -- the -- the
nature of -- of like the -- the geometry of that -- of that road necessitates kind of more
careful driving. I live just off Meridian more north and we have -- often have cars parked
on either side and that in combination with the shape of the -- the -- the actual path of
the roads that actually I think makes -- a lot of times it makes me feel safer, because I
feel like all the cars on my street are driving 10, 15 miles an hour when there are kids
around and not 20, 25 and so I feel oftentimes that -- that, actually, it's -- it's the pace is
a little calmer. It may not feel comfortable -- as comfortable, but that's also part -- part
of what makes people slow down. So, I'm not as concerned about internal safety, I'm
mostly concerned about safety on Meridian Road and I think, if anything, that this
project alleviates that more than -- more than exacerbates that. So, I'm generally in
favor of this. I understand the desire to kind of cap off that interconnectivity with Mondt
Meadows, but that's -- the interconnectivity is -- that -- that's kind of the -- the purpose of
some of this development. I don't know if it's explicitly in code, but I'm pretty sure it is
or, you know, the developer is required to have that connectivity. So -- but -- but, yeah,
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1 -- I understand this kind of change is hard. I understand there is a lot of construction
into the parking and -- and things. I -- I fully empathize with that from previous
experiences, but I -- I think on net this -- this addresses some really serious safety
concerns on Meridian Road and helps alleviate that. Doesn't make them perfect, but
helps. Hopefully provide a little bit more visibility and I know -- I'm not concerned about
internal safety on this as much. As for the sidewalks, again, I think that's another thing
that's out of our control. I really would love having those -- those northern sidewalks
and walking paths and having a contiguous, you know, safe pedestrian path, rather than
having to cross the street, but I don't know that there is anything we can do there, so I
will -- I will -- I will wish upon a, star but that's about all I can do. Beyond that I -- I
support this plan.
Perreault: Mr. Vice-Chair?
Smith: Commissioner Perreault.
Perreault: I'm not a plat engineer by any means, but I have seen a few hundred of them
and I -- just wondering if -- if -- this buffer is fantastic. Rarely do we see something like
that and that well thought out to have a buffer like that. But wondering if that -- you
know, could there be a roadway that would -- that could go there that -- where Sky
Mesa heading north -- or Sky Ranch heading north they would make a right, then, and
kind of fill out onto Mondt Meadows or something along that -- along those lines. I
assume that there is a need for two streets in here for safety or -- or fire access, but if a
street could be used as a buffer there, instead of that landscaping I -- that was a thought
that crossed my mind. But I -- I really feel -- I mean I really feel for our -- our member --
members of the community here. I live off Ten Mile and when I bought my home Ten
Mile was not a raceway that's basically equivalent to Eagle Road. So, I run the gauntlet
every day to make a left out of my house and sit for five minutes to make a right out of
my house. So, I completely relate with -- with you all. But our purview is really just to
decide should we annex into -- this into the city and is it appropriate -- is the design of
this appropriate for this -- for this location and appropriate for the city as a whole and a
lot of thought has been put into this design. We respect the -- the owner's property
rights to -- to -- to make an application like this and so as far as what the applicant is
able to do with the restrictions that they have in and of their ability, I feel like they have
addressed a -- a good majority of whatever they could address and so in that regard I'm
-- I'm happy with what they have done so far. I don't see any reason that we didn't
necessarily recommend denial, because there isn't anything that they haven't complied
with with what the staff has asked. So, that's the tough part for us in that -- in that
regard as well, so --
Smith: I think really the -- the only way to recommend denial is -- is just as deny the
annexation as a whole and not based on any issues with the -- the plat itself, because,
yeah, I don't think there is anything in the -- in the plat specifically that they haven't
complied with. Commissioner Sandoval, do you have any thoughts?
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Sandoval: Yeah, Mr. Vice-Chair. I agree, you know, that -- the traffic has already been
addressed. I'm not going to talk about that. The buffers are great on this. I think overall
it's a -- it's a good plan and definitely in favor of recommending approval.
Smith: Commissioners, any other comments, thoughts, motions? I can make one if you
would rather --
Stoll: Nope. I will -- I will do it. That's fine. Mr. Vice-Chair, after considering all staff,
applicants and public testimony, I move to recommend approval to the City Council of
File No. H-2025-0047 as presented in the staff report for the hearing date of February
5th, 2026.
Perreault: Mr. Vice-Chair?
Smith: Commissioner Perreault.
Perreault: I would like to second the motion and I would like to say one -- one thing. I
would encourage you all to go to the City Council hearing and share with them what you
have shared with us, because they are a different body and they take different things we have a -- kind of a different purpose to some extent than they do. So, they will they will take your -- your concerns and consideration there as well. So, I second that
motion.
Smith: Moved and seconded. All those in favor say aye. Any opposed? Motion
carries. Thank you very much.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. TWO ABSENT.
Smith: With that I will take one final motion.
Stoll: Move to adjourn.
Perreault: Second.
Smith: It's been moved and seconded. All those in favor say aye. Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. TWO ABSENT.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:03 P.M.
(AUDIO RECORDING ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS. )
APPROVED
Maria Lorcher, Commission President, 2-19-2026
Chris Johnson, City Clerk
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