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Chris Johnson
From:Sahand Keshavarz Rahbar
Sent:Friday, August 29, 2025 2:21 PM
To:David Barnes; Mayor Office Feedback
Cc:Clerks Comment; Bill Nary; Bill Parsons
Subject:RE: Proposed In and Out Location at Ten Mile and Lost Rapids
David,
Thank you for reaching out and sharing your thoughts about the proposed project. Your email has been
received by the Mayor’s Office. Because this project is part of an open application, the Mayor and City
Council members are prohibited from commenting outside of the public hearing process. That said, we
take public feedback seriously and want you to know that we have received your email and have read
your comments.
Your email has been forwarded to our City Clerk and will be included in the project public record. As you
may be aware, the City does not determine which food service or business locates at a property; the City
regulates the land use of various properties while businesses decide to locate at given sites or areas
based on market conditions. This project’s City Council public hearing is currently scheduled for Sept
9. Additionally, we invite you to check the City’s website, meridiancity.org, for any upcoming public
hearing notices and additional information regarding the development. I have also copied the Planning
Department if you have additional questions on hearings, or should that date change.
Sincerely,
Sahand Keshavarz Rahbar | Programs & Events Specialist
City of Meridian | Mayor’s Office
33 E. Broadway Ave., Meridian, Idaho 83642
Phone: (208) 489-0534 | Fax: (208) 884-8119
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From: David Barnes <dbarn75@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2025 2:11 PM
To: Mayor Office Feedback <MayorOfficeFeedback@meridiancity.org>
Subject: Proposed In and Out Location at Ten Mile and Lost Rapids
External Sender - Please use caution with links or attachments.
To Whom it May Concern,
I’m writing in opposition to the proposed In and Out location that is currently under review, again, after
being previously denied by the City. This location is very hazardous with an already very busy Costco
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location. I currently live within the Bainbridge subdivision and would be a part of the community that
would be the most impacted, should this location be approved.
The corner at Lost Rapids & Ten Mile is a uniquely problematic location for the additional traffic
load In-N-Out represents. There’s dozens of lots available in northwest Meridian with better
access and zero impact to residential areas.
The Costco development area can barely handle the existing traffic flow. We’re concerned
about traffic getting TO and FROM the target site. In-N-Out’s ability to handle cars within their
own lot is NOT our concern.
The safety issues involving 2 very busy City parks and 3 school bus stops within 700 feet
cannot be discounted.
The approval the Adero Park neighborhood with a major intersection at Malta Road will put
additional strain on north Ten Mile Road between McMillian and Chinden.In-N-Out would
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represent the 11 drive thru on the Costco development. The City’s vision for that development
was to create retail space with a few drive thru accessories, not to create “drive thru central” in
northwest Meridian.
ACHD’s own study from 2017 did not envision this level of drive thru density and the possibility
of In-N-Out—they had NO Idaho expansion plans in 2017, much less into residential areas.
In-N-Out’s own “traffic study” they provided was conducted over 4 days in December 2024—
specifically to rule out the foot traffic and car traffic that inundate the area during Spring,
Summer and Fall.
Prior to the Planning & Zoning hearing, our Bainbridge community survey revealed 80% of our
respondents were OPPOSED to that location. During the Planning & Zoning process, about
96% of the hundreds of public comments from the 6 surrounding neighborhoods were
OPPOSED to that location.
In-N-Out has decided to initially modify their request to close at midnight and prevent overnight
deliveries. While this prevents overnight noise and light pollution into the adjacent residential areas
after midnight, it makes no difference to the biggest issue: over an additional million visitors to that
corner each year
Please reject the current proposal being presented by In and Out. It would in the best interests of all
the surrounding community.
Thanks,
David Barnes
208-939-7631
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Chris Johnson
From:David Barnes <dbarn75@gmail.com>
Sent:Friday, August 29, 2025 2:10 PM
To:Clerks Comment
Subject:Proposed In and Out at Ten Mile and Lost Rapids
External Sender - Please use caution with links or attachments.
To Whom it May Concern,
I’m writing in opposition to the proposed In and Out location that is currently under review, again, after
being previously denied by the City. This location is very hazardous with an already very busy Costco
location. I currently live within the Bainbridge subdivision and would be a part of the community that
would be the most impacted, should this location be approved.
The corner at Lost Rapids & Ten Mile is a uniquely problematic location for the additional traffic
load In-N-Out represents. There’s dozens of lots available in northwest Meridian with better
access and zero impact to residential areas.
The Costco development area can barely handle the existing traffic flow. We’re concerned
about traffic getting TO and FROM the target site. In-N-Out’s ability to handle cars within their
own lot is NOT our concern.
The safety issues involving 2 very busy City parks and 3 school bus stops within 700 feet
cannot be discounted.
The approval the Adero Park neighborhood with a major intersection at Malta Road will put
additional strain on north Ten Mile Road between McMillian and Chinden.In-N-Out would
th
represent the 11 drive thru on the Costco development. The City’s vision for that development
was to create retail space with a few drive thru accessories, not to create “drive thru central” in
northwest Meridian.
ACHD’s own study from 2017 did not envision this level of drive thru density and the possibility
of In-N-Out—they had NO Idaho expansion plans in 2017, much less into residential areas.
In-N-Out’s own “traffic study” they provided was conducted over 4 days in December 2024—
specifically to rule out the foot traffic and car traffic that inundate the area during Spring,
Summer and Fall.
Prior to the Planning & Zoning hearing, our Bainbridge community survey revealed 80% of our
respondents were OPPOSED to that location. During the Planning & Zoning process, about
96% of the hundreds of public comments from the 6 surrounding neighborhoods were
OPPOSED to that location.
In-N-Out has decided to initially modify their request to close at midnight and prevent overnight
deliveries. While this prevents overnight noise and light pollution into the adjacent residential areas
after midnight, it makes no difference to the biggest issue: over an additional million visitors to that
corner each year
Please reject the current proposal being presented by In and Out. It would in the best interests of all
the surrounding community.
Thanks,
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David Barnes
208-939-7631
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