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Charlene Way
From:Charlene Way
Sent:Monday, August 4, 2025 7:57 AM
To:Stan Schriber; Clerks Comment
Subject:RE: Opposed!
Stan:
Thank you for your comments. They have been made available in the project folder for review.
To access Public Hearing Notice Information, find online at: https://apps.meridiancity.org/phnotices/
To access Public Hearing Process Information, find online at
https://meridiancity.org/government/public-meeting-information/
Have a wonderful day,
Charlene
Charlene Way, Assistant City Clerk (Remote Fridays)
City Clerk Office| City of Meridian
33 E. Broadway Ave., Meridian, Idaho 83642
Phone: 208.888.4433|Email: cway@meridiancity.org
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From: Stan Schriber <schriberstan@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2025 12:51 PM
To: Clerks Comment <comment@meridiancity.org>
Subject: Opposed!
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I continue to be fully against the In-N-Out request and their recent request
to have the Meridian City Council override the denial by the Planning
& Zoning Commission of 2025 April 17. A lot of thought and
considerations were put into this denial which should be considered
to be relevant and supported by the present Meridian City Council.
I’ve listed 7 points associated with my concerns below:
1. The corner at Lost Rapids & Ten Mile is a uniquely
problematic location for the additional traffic load In-N-Out
represents. There’s dozens of lots available in northwest Meridian
with better access and zero impact to residential areas.
The CostCo development area can barely handle the
existing traffic flow. We’re concerned about traffic getting TO and
FROM the target site. In-N-Out’s ability to handle cars within their
own lot is NOT our concern.
The safety issues involving 2 very busy City parks and 3
school bus stops within 700 feet cannot be discounted.
The approval the Adero Park neighborhood with a major
intersection at Malta Road will put additional strain on north Ten
Mile Road between McMillan and Chinden. In-N-Out would
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represent the 11 drive thru with on the CostCo development. The
City’s vision for that development was to create retail space with a
few drive thru accessories, not to create “drive thru central” in
northwest Meridian.
ACHD’s own study from 2017 did not envision this level of
drive thru density and the possibility of In-N-Out—they had NO
Idaho expansion plans in 2017, much less into residential areas.
In-N-Out’s own “traffic study” they provided was conducted
over 4 days in December 2024—specifically to rule out the foot
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traffic and car traffic that inundate the area during Spring, Summer
and Fall.
Prior to the Planning & Zoning hearing, our Bainbridge
community survey revealed 80% of our respondents were
OPPOSED to that location. During the Planning & Zoning process,
about 96% of the hundreds of public comments from the 6
surrounding neighborhoods were OPPOSED to that location.
8. In-N-Out has decided to initially modify their request to
close at midnight and prevent overnight deliveries. While this
prevents overnight noise and light pollution into the adjacent
residential areas after midnight, it makes no difference to the
biggest issue: over an additional million visitors to that corner each
year. Also there is a problem with their suggested midnight which
should really before 10 PM because the immediate area has a)
many young families that have young children who go to bed before
10PM and b) many older individuals who go to bed before 10 PM.
Sent from my traveling iPad.
Stan on the go somewhere in the magic Idaho Treasure Valley or Scottsdale environs.
Prof.-Dr. Stan Schriber
Phone: 208-631-8208 cell
E-Mail: schriberstan@gmail.com
Business: Schriber Consulting
3711 W Sunny Cove Ln.
Meridian, ID 83646 - 7262
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Charlene Way
From:Dave Miles
Sent:Monday, August 4, 2025 8:02 AM
To:Stan Schriber; Mayor Office Feedback
Cc:Clerks Comment; Bill Parsons
Subject:RE: Opposed!
Stan,
Thank you for reaching out and sharing your thoughts about the proposed project. Your email has been received by
the Mayor’s O?ice. Because this project is part of an open application, the Mayor and City Council members are
prohibited from commenting outside of the public hearing process. That said, we take public feedback seriously
and want you to know that we have received your email and have read your comments.
Your email has been forwarded to our City Clerk and will be included in the project public record. As you may be
aware, the City does not determine which food service or business locates at a property, the City regulates the
land use of various properties while businesses decide to locate at given sites or areas based on market
conditions. This project’s City Council public hearing is currently scheduled for Aug. 12. Additionally, we invite
you to check the City’s website, meridiancity.org for any upcoming public hearing notices and additional
information regarding the development. I have also copied the Planning Department if you have additional
questions on hearings, or should that date change.
Sincerely,
Dave Miles | Chief of Staff
City of Meridian | Mayor’s Office
33 E. Broadway Ave., Meridian, Idaho 83642
Phone: (208) 489-0532|Fax: (208) 884-8119
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From: Stan Schriber <schriberstan@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2025 12:57 PM
To: Mayor Office Feedback <MayorOfficeFeedback@meridiancity.org>
Subject: Opposed!
External Sender - Please use caution with links or attachments.
I continue to be fully against the In-N-Out request and their recent request
to have the Meridian City Council override the denial by the Planning
& Zoning Commission of 2025 April 17. A lot of thought and
considerations were put into this denial which should be considered
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to be relevant and supported by the present Meridian City Council.
I’ve listed 7 points associated with my concerns below:
1. The corner at Lost Rapids & Ten Mile is a uniquely
problematic location for the additional traffic load In-N-Out
represents. There’s dozens of lots available in northwest Meridian
with better access and zero impact to residential areas.
The CostCo development area can barely handle the
existing traffic flow. We’re concerned about traffic getting TO and
FROM the target site. In-N-Out’s ability to handle cars within their
own lot is NOT our concern.
The safety issues involving 2 very busy City parks and 3
school bus stops within 700 feet cannot be discounted.
The approval the Adero Park neighborhood with a major
intersection at Malta Road will put additional strain on north Ten
Mile Road between McMillan and Chinden. In-N-Out would
th
represent the 11 drive thru with on the CostCo development. The
City’s vision for that development was to create retail space with a
few drive thru accessories, not to create “drive thru central” in
northwest Meridian.
ACHD’s own study from 2017 did not envision this level of
drive thru density and the possibility of In-N-Out—they had NO
Idaho expansion plans in 2017, much less into residential areas.
In-N-Out’s own “traffic study” they provided was conducted
over 4 days in December 2024—specifically to rule out the foot
traffic and car traffic that inundate the area during Spring, Summer
and Fall.
Prior to the Planning & Zoning hearing, our Bainbridge
community survey revealed 80% of our respondents were
OPPOSED to that location. During the Planning & Zoning process,
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about 96% of the hundreds of public comments from the 6
surrounding neighborhoods were OPPOSED to that location.
8. In-N-Out has decided to initially modify their request to
close at midnight and prevent overnight deliveries. While this
prevents overnight noise and light pollution into the adjacent
residential areas after midnight, it makes no difference to the
biggest issue: over an additional million visitors to that corner each
year. Also there is a problem with their suggested midnight which
should really before 10 PM because the immediate area has a)
many young families that have young children who go to bed
before 10PM and b) many older individuals who go to bed
before 10 PM.
Sent from my traveling iPad.
Stan on the go somewhere in the magic Idaho Treasure Valley or Scottsdale environs.
Prof.-Dr. Stan Schriber
Phone: 208-631-8208 cell
E-Mail: schriberstan@gmail.com
Business: Schriber Consulting
3711 W Sunny Cove Ln.
Meridian, ID 83646 - 7262
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