HomeMy WebLinkAbout2007 02-27 Special
Meridian City Council SDecial Meeting
February 27. 2007
The Meridian City Council special meeting was called to order at 6:00 P.M. on
Tuesday, February 27, 2007 by President Councilman Joe Borton.
Members Present: Mayor Tammy de Weerd, Keith Bird, David Zaremba, and
Joe Borton.
Staff Present: Bill Nary, Bob Stowe, Matt Ellsworth and Will Berg.
Item 1.
Roll-call Attendance:
Roll call.
X David Zaremba X Joe Borton
o Charlie Rountree X Keith Bird
X Mayor Tammy de Weerd (arrived at 6:07)
Item 2.
Adoption of the Agenda:
Bird: Mr. President.
Borton: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move that we adopt as published.
Zaremba: Second.
Borton: It has been moved and seconded to adopt the agenda as published. All
those in favor say aye.
THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT. MOTION CARRIED.
Item 3.
Presentation by City Planning and COMPASS Staffs on the US
20/26 (Chinden Boulevard) Corridor Study and Corridor
Options:
Borton: We have some materials provided to us in advance and Matt, I think we
are going to turn it over to you to get us started and begin the presentation.
Ellsworth: Thank you Mr. President, Members of the Council. As you all know
Community Planning Association is in the process of preparing a corridor study
for Highway 20/26, Chinden Boulevard. The point in the process that they have
arrived to now is essentially the one of several alternatives that under
consideration is gaining some traction. So, prior to moving forward with a
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broader regional public hearing, the Interim Corridor Preservation Committee
decided it would be a good idea to bring this alternative to localities for two
reasons. On the one hand, just with the notion that through local city halls they
may be able to reach out to a different audience than COMPASS's regional
planning agency may be able to reach. The second reason is because
ultimately, this corridor plan is going to be up to localities to implement. Also, as
sort of a follow up, there are several members of the Council expressed some
interest and considering the recommendations of the corridor study for adoption
in through the cities comprehensive plan at later date. That being the case, we
were hoping to come together today to provide COMPASS an opportunity to
present the alternative that seems to be, like I said, gaining some traction. So,
after a brief presentation by COMPASS, we would really like to turn it over to an
interested stakeholders, members of the public to gather their thoughts, concerns
and so forth about this plan before it moves forward and for any members of the
public who would rather not come to the microphone to provide testimony, there
are comment sheets in the back. Those will all be compiled as well for
consideration as this process moves forward. So, with that I will turn over to
COMPASS, Don Madson or Charles Trainer as the case may be.
Madson: Last week I was introduced as Charles Trainer, Jr., which is fine.
Thanks for having us here today. We are glad to be here to talk with you and the
citizens of Meridian or whoever else may have arrived to talk with us about the
US 20/26 corridor. As Matt stated and as most of you know in the audience, we
have been working with a consultant team for a number of months on the US
20/26 corridor study. The end all of this study is to begin a process for ITD to be
in an acquiring right-of-way and eventually the funding to design and build the
road. It is a lengthy process for a lengthy corridor. We are at the point where the
initial scope of work was completed, but we are now in the mid-step of preparing
environmental documents and as Matt stated here to discuss at least one of the
larger options and decisions that need to be made with you and your citizens and
that is an expressway option for the center part of the corridor, basically from
Middleton Road to Black Cat Road. There are several alternatives that were
proposed by residents in the initial public hearings and with our consultant team.
I think the number was 43 different ideas. Some of those had to be thrown out
for various reasons and they have documented all of that. If any citizens want to
know what happened to their idea that we could provide that information. But, it
was narrowed down to about 20 or so and then narrowed again to nine and we
discussed that here with you back in November. We are now trying to focus on
two or three of those options. Today we are specifically wanting the input on the
expressway option. Again that wouldn't be for the entire length of the corridor. It
is difficult to put an expressway where you already have a lot of development
along the road without a huge amount of expense and disruption of the people's
lives. So, we are focusing on the section from Middle to approximately Black Cat
Road. We would love to hear from any and all persons on how they feel about
that. We can answer a lot of questions privately if they don't want to speak into a
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microphone and we have comment sheets. Is there anything that you want to
add at the moment, Charles?
Trainer: I am Charles Trainer, Community Planning Association. Don expressed
it very well. We are struggling with what to do with the corridor. As you have
heard before that people have said we don't want to replicate some of the
corridor decisions that have gone on in the past, not going into any specific
roadway names,. but the challenge that we are facing, really is one of - as we
have gone through this study, as we went through Communities in Motion, we
have seen this rapid evolution or escalation in how big this region is going to be
by 2030 or at some point. One of the things to emphasize in this process is this
project is not a design, build project. This is a corridor preservation access
management project. It is trying to establish which (inaudible) for the ultimate
size of a road that may take 15, 20 or 30 years to implement. There are different
visions for that - what might happen in the interim. I know that the City of
Caldwell has been promoting what we have nicknamed the EI Camino Real,
which is a one mile, full intersection spacing with right-in, right-out in between. It
works pretty well up to about 50,000 vehicles a day and the problem is that under
our low projections at 825,000, we are already looking at Chinden carrying about
45,000 a day in portions. If we go to the 1.5 million, that 45,000 is going to be a
very low estimate - under very preliminary numbers we have run today just to
give you a sense when we have looked at some of the north south corridors like
McDermott, we are already looking at 70,000 to 80,000 vehicles a day on
McDermott and its expressway nature. We are looking at a doubling of traffic on
the freeway, so these are some very scary numbers and that is what we are
trying to get a handle on. One of the citizens just before this meeting was asking
what about transit? The plan does include a very aggressive expansion of the
public transportation system. The problem is that it doesn't alleviate the demand
on the roadways enough to eliminate the demand to do something on this
corridor. If we are going to keep traffic off of other east west corridors, we need
to do something fairly aggressive with Chinden. That's what this project is about;
to look at how aggressive we could be, should be and what we need to do to
preserve that. Thank you.
Borton: Thank you Mr. Trainer. Matt, I will turn it back over to you. Do you have
additional comments?
Ellsworth: Thank you Mr. President, Madame Mayor and Members of the
Council. In addition to the broader corridor level questions that we were hoping
to discuss this afternoon. There were certain sort of Meridian specific issues that
we would like to really hone in on a bit at this meeting in particular were a
potential interchange at Linder Road and Mr. Madson, Mr. Trainer I am not sure if
either of you would care to touch on any of the area specific concerns that we
were hoping to rush on this afternoon.
Trainer: Linder Road is another interesting - interesting, that is a good word,
challenge. As we went through Communities in Motion, we identified Linder as a
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target. It is a very long, north south road, while not a major facility it does cross
the river, goes all the way down and into past Kuna. It is being proposed for an
overpass, not yet funded. What became the challenges as we look at some of
the growth that is being identified now north of Eagle as a potential. Linder starts
to ramp up very quickly in traffic. As we look at some of the growth futures in the
Eagle area, we are looking at Linder at the river crossing carrying upwards of
40,000 vehicles a day. That becomes the challenge if we are looking at Chinden
carrying 45,000, 50,000 or 60,000 and we are looking at Linder carrying 40,000,
we think that we have a problem. A traditional intersection is not going to
accommodate that kind of traffic. That is why we believe Linder itself needs to be
at least considered for an interchange if at all possible. Since I am old enough
now and have been around long enough I can play the old codger role and say
that many years ago we look at that for Eagle Road in 1996, which seems like a
long time to me and at the time people said that is overkill, why are you
proposing that? Now-a-days people are saying why wasn't it done? So, I guess
that is the opportunity we are looking at here and I don't want to make light of the
fact that these interchanges do have very specific implications for the
surrounding land uses. It requires probably keeping any ground level
intersection back probably 700 or 800 feet, preferable even a X of a mile to
ensure proper spacing and avoid tie ups. That is something that needs some
careful consideration. We are looking at four potential interchanges at this time.
Middleton, a future river crossing at Franklin north south road in Canyon County;
McDermott itself and Linder. We are not looking at this time at probably any kind
of feasible interchanges anywhere else. We don't see at this point if McDermott
goes in as is being curr~ntly planned, the Star Road demand goes way down.
Borton: Mr. Trainer can you share with us a little bit about of these options and
proposals from the public input you have received so far, has that steered
towards or away from any particular part of this plan?
Trainer: Well I think the general public that attended the meetings has expressed
a fairly strong and I want to emphasize, we had approximately 140 people come
to our meetings about a year ago. Of that half of them voiced fairly strong
support for some kind of expressway concept. I want to hedge that about what
the general public doesn't have a clue to what is entailed in doing an expressway
in terms of access issues and costs. So, they have also expressed a strong
desire to see State Street turned into an expressway in other studies and that is
simply not going to happen. This particular corridor has at least from the
McDermott to Black Cat has the potential of being an expressway. So, I think the
public wants to see something radical. It is possible and I want to emphasize,
the expressway itself does not mean that everything has to be grade separated
or separated levels. Many of the intersections would remain at grade with
signals. They want to see something different, at least a strong support for an
expressway, but I think some of the lower end access management has not
received a lot of support from the public.
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Borton: Okay, thank you.
De Weerd: Mr. President.
Borton: Madame Mayor.
De Weerd: Charles I think during when this corridor planning first started off, we
were doing our north Meridian plan and trying to adapt the plan to what was
being discussed at the time. This is very different than what was being
discussed at that time. We tried to place local connectors so that we had some
internal circulation in the one mile section and actually got good collaboration
with the development community. Much of the Chinden corridor in our area of
impact is actually on both sides of Chinden planned with half mile intersections -
lighted intersections and I see in this plan that its one mile with only right-in, right-
out turns at the half mile spacing. So, what changed - how do we change what
has been approved by ITD and certainly by the city? How does that work?
Trainer: Well, I wish I had magic answers. I don't. I think part of what has
changed is sort of a rapid escalation and what we are seeing is the potential for
regional growth. I think the - early on I think and I know Sue is here, I think they
were looking at it as perhaps lesser demand on this corridor and the type four
access, the half mile spacing was considered perhaps adequate to the demand.
For changing - I guess I will be as blunt as I can be. It may be that an
expressway is simply not in the cards. There has been a lot of concern voiced
both about its feasibility from in terms of the existing land uses and existing
access and its feasibility in terms of costs. That may be and ultimately a
conclusion that with all of the will in the world to try and consider it, it simply is not
possible. Certainly that is something that we are hearing - from Caldwell they
think that there are other options that can function and be effective. But, I think
we are going to hit the wall when we get much past the 50,000 to 55,000 vehicles
a day. I think we are going to experience some significant delay. I know I didn't
answer your question how do we make this work? What do we do with the
existing development? I think that is why kind of trying to look at it from basically
from Middleton over to Black Cat, it may push back over towards the McDermott
corridor, but there comes a point at which if we get down to one or two or three
miles and that is all we can do, well it is probably not going to be an expressway,
it is just going to be a little bit better arterial.
De Weerd: I don't know I guess - I am sorry, Mr. President, I guess I recall the
discussion being an expressway to the Highway 16 extension and then it turns a
little bit more urban, which has the half miles and we have been getting very
good support from the development communities - certainly concerned even at
the half mile, but they felt as long as it was fairly and consistently applied through
that corridor that they would not be disadvantaged. Whatever the decisions are
they certainly have to be adhered to, but you know we try to anticipate early on
what this plan would do so we could support it as a community, so we could be
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already talking with the development community and getting buy-in and we were
successful in even the half mile, which was heavily resisted at first. But, now you
are asking for even more and that is hard to turn back the clock.
Trainer: I don't think we can. I am not sure which section you are talking about,
Mayor.
De Weerd: I guess from McDermott on and in our new comprehensive plan, we
certainly support it in the two additional miles that would be west of McDermott in
trying to keep it at the one mile access and having internal opportunities to have
some internal circulation, but anything I think east of McDermott is-
Trainer: So, this section right here?
De Weerd: Uh-huh. And in the goal because I read that - it says less access
management and it is talking about signals every one mile with full access
signals limit to right-in, right-out at half mile spacing, which we had lighted
intersections at half mile spacing, which would be full access.
Trainer: I think that is part of the discussion. No decision at this point has been
made. It is trying to open up the discussion and make sure that when we get to
the end of the project that there is an understanding of what the trade-offs have
been, what the realistic costs are going to be and I guess basically what the long-
term impact is going to be on the corridor and it may be that the half mile type
four would remain in place. That is certainly remains in the running for potentially
the entire corridor. When we get to the point where the citizens say will there
ever be a freeway, I think we are going to have to be Uno". Not now, not ever,
ever. That is the problem, I guess, as a planner sometimes we get into the plans
and there tends to be a bit of a waffling. Well, you don't want to say no, say well
maybe we can considerate it later. I think at the end of this study we are going to
say basically this is it. This is all this corridor ever is going to be. There is not
going to be any promise that it might be improved later to anything different. I
think Sue expressed it quite eloquently this is the last time we are going to be
here on this corridor to define its future nature. As long as people are content
with that and there is no belief that somehow there is another solution out there, I
think that we will have success.
De Weerd: I guess I am just of the firm belief that you have to start talking it from
the very beginning. I know our city has been very interested and wanting to do it
right. As with the McDermott corridor and looking at that as an expressway with
very limited access because you are talking there at the two mile and the city has
had no issues with that. But, it has to be that from the very beginning because
we lose opportunities.
Trainer: And as we had the discussion on Monday with the Board that you know
there is this balance between economic development and sort of regional traffic
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flow, trying to define where that is going to be. I know that here is Middleton and
I believe that Caldwell would like to push this out to I am not sure exactly where
but somewhere in the vicinity of about here, in terms that they are having more
liberal access to the corridor and that is when we start to get okay exactly where
- you know how far out do we go and if we get down to this point and this is all
the uexpressway" that we are going to have, at what point does it really not make
much sense? That is where we are trying to define it. It may be at the end that
we are going to have kind of maybe the EI Camino Real, which is not as we have
talked about it with some of the Caldwell staff, it could be an evolutionary thing
where you have that half mile or that right-in, right-out as a conditional and then
later on it morphs into a frontage road -- if we can preserve that corridor - we are
looking at those kind of options as well. I think the key that makes this work and
it is not shown on this map, but are the idealities back-age roads that run about a
~ of a mile. Whether those be closer than a ~ mile or whatever, but if we don't
get those I think making that one mile, the expressway doesn't become feasible
at all. Even at the half mile I think we still need those kinds of back-age roads
approach or some kind of cross access agreements to make any kind of access
management, even a type four feasible. So, at this point I think the confusion
has been that this is fixed, this is it, and this is what is being recommended. It
sort of had a lot of legs at the meeting on January 11 th and the direction was take
it out, see what the citizens say, see what the elected officials have to say, come
back on March 15th and make a recommendation as to what is going to be the
preferred recommended option coming out of the Corridor Preservation
Committee and to move forward.
Zaremba: Mr. President.
Borton: Mr. Zaremba.
Zaremba: First let me say that I am thrilled to hear people starting talking about
the problem that we are going to have when we get closer to full build out at this
Valley instead of taking what we have been doing in 20 year sections, which I
have never thought was long enough. I am also thrilled to hear you focusing on
Linder as a major thorough fare -
Trainer: You are not a Linder resident, are you?
Zaremba: I am not a Linder resident, but you know being cognizant of it having a
river crossing and a railroad crossing, it has two of the three elements that make
Eagle Road so busy. Eventually we are hoping it will have an over-crossing over
1-84, which is another half of what Eagle Road has is an interchange at 1-84 and
it will someday when there is that overpass be the longest north south road in the
Treasure Valley. So, it is to me, it has been a wonder to me why people aren't
considering it the next Eagle Road and you are sounding like at least people are
beginning to consider that that may someday, maybe not within 20 years, but
someday may be the case.
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Trainer: Well, I didn't say the next Eagle Road.
Zaremba: Well, maybe I interpreted it incorrectly what you were saying, but in
my opinion it could very well be and I am glad that people are beginning to say
wait a minute we need to think bigger than we have been thinking. Like the
Mayor, it is unfortunate that we have been operating with a smaller assumptions
and the City of Meridian has already allowed or approved some projects out
there that will make some of this difficult. But, I have to say that I am thrilled that
the greater access management is being suggested; that it is being studied. I
think it is as high in access management as we can put along that corridor for
any length of it is important to do because this - if the eventual build out of the
Valley - you know repeat what I keep repeating that apparently Idaho Power
seems to think that we are going to have 2.5 million people eventually in the
Treasure Valley - that is just staggering what that means to the traffic and I don't
think we can possibly plan too big. Thank you.
Trainer: For the citizens in the audience, we do have comments sheets and
summaries of the corridor study on the back table.
Item 4.
City Council Discussion and Comments Session:
Borton: Thank you. As described at the outset, this is a public meeting, open
house sort of question and answers opportunity for the public. Before we go any
further is there anyone present who has any questions, comments, concerns
from the public that they would like to put forward? Mr. Turnbull.
Turnbull: Yes, Mr. Borton thanks for giving me just a brief opportunity for
comment. I have been following this issue pretty closely since we own about two
miles of frontage on Chinden Boulevard through this area and as you know we
have had two developments that are approved and another piece that we haven't
even come through for approval, but we have been supportive of the process that
took place when we went through the north Meridian Area plan. We planned for
a 70 foot centerline right-of-way, 140 feet total. We swallowed hard and we
accepted the type for access control where we only have access at the half mile
marks and in reality we gave up when we did that numerous commercial
opportunities because they just won't bear out with the type four access controls.
So, having said that to have this come along now after the fact and being late on
our lapse we find it is not something that we are going to be able to live with. We
have already installed signals. We have already got our accesses installed and
the idea that those might be restricted to right-in, right-out only at the half mile
section will be terribly detrimental to our existing developments and so we have
provided to ITD and to your Planning staff an eight lane road fitting into a 140
foot right-of-way. That allows for two center lane turns all the way along, so one
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of the concerns for Sue Sullivan from ITD expressed was that they are going to
need two left hand turn lanes at the one mile intersections, which we concur with
and in order to avoid kind of bobbing and weaving at the intersections, they
wanted to maintain kind of a two lane corridor all the way through. So, that gets
you to three lanes both ways with a two lane center and if you can accommodate
that in 140 right-of-way, which we planned for and which we set aside - I think
actually when we did our first phase of Paramount they only asked us for a 52 or
58 foot right-of-way, but we have them providing 70 feet all the way from
Cloverdale Road in our Boise Research Center on all of our Hobble Creek
projects and it has extended all the way up. I believe what Mayor De Weerd said
is actually where I see it. There is too much that has gone on in the past that
allows you to do much more than what's already been planned between Eagle
Road and McDermott. I think it is already cooked into the equation. So, we are
supportive of the current access management plan. We have taken out any
interim accesses onto Chinden except for the half mile points and we can live
with that, but we can't live with turning those into right-in and right-outs and - you
know the other thing that I would like to point out for the City of Meridian is I think
you need to insist on an urban section roadway through your city and the ITD
plan for 100 feet of right-of-way from center line entails center barrow ditches and
side barrow ditches and I don't think that is what my vision would be for the city
and I think that - well, boy I would hope that you would concur. So, that is kind
of where our position is on this subject and I appreciate the opportunity to speak
with you about it. If you have any questions, I would be happy to answer.
Borton: Any questions?
Bird: I have none.
Zaremba: Mr. President.
Borton: Mr. Zaremba.
Zaremba: I would just make the comment that my previous stated enthusiasm
for thinking big for the future - I was not intending that to mean that Meridian
should go backwards and undo agreements that have already been made. I
agree that there is a road that we have already started down and if we could
change any future projects, I would like to have the whole Valley thinking bigger
by then. It is not my opinion that we either can or should try and undo any
agreements that we have made, your developments or other developments along
Chinden that we have already approved.
Turnbull: President Borton, Councilman Zaremba I appreciate that sentiment
and that is the way I took your comments previously. I am all in favor of what is
being done for the McDermott corridor. That has been an area that you know -
we have actually gotten out in front of the game and will be able to plan that more
effectively without impacting on some expectations that have already been set.
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SO, I think that is an excellent example. We have to get out years ahead and
really be planning. It becomes very difficult once you have gone down that road,
no pun intended of your planning and then to have something like this. This
would be a major departure of what has been planned for you know as recently
as just the last few months; this is what we have been planning around. So, I
appreciate your indulgence. Thank you.
De Weerd: Mr. President.
Borton: Madame Mayor.
De Weerd: I guess one comment that you made I wanted to respond to is I have
heard from a couple of other developers who have the same desire to work with
the city on access management and try and maintain the integrity of even the
every half mile and they said they, too, have had problems in working with the
retailers and the lack of access, but I do believe that as long as we can remain
consistent and consistent to the policy - that is an important corridor and the
retailers will come around as long as we don't start giving in and not being
consistent in applying these rules throughout this corridor. So, whatever is
decided in this planning process, we need to reach the plan and then stick to it.
As long as we do that the retailers will come back. It is just a matter of time and
retraining.
Turnbull: Mr. President, Madame Mayor I appreciate that comment and I believe
the retailers will come to this area. They may not be right on US 20/26, but that
is almost - you are getting out close to kind of a natural geographic boundary
which is the rim anyway and retailers will look at two things. They will look at
traffic; they will look at access and they will look at 360 degree radiuses. So, if it
is not on 20/26 it might be a little closer to the center of the city. So, as you know
when we went through our Paramount project, we asked for two commercial
zonings on McMillan Road because we knew that there were going to be access
management controls on Chinden Boulevard and for the reasons I stated, you
know the geographical radius and the access management controls we thought
that those were probably the more appropriate places for the commercial zoning.
So, that is how we planned our projects to date and we kind of would like to see
those upheld and we have confidence that they will be. Thank you.
Borton: Is there anybody else from the public who wishes to make any
comments, ask any questions of COMPASS, staff or Council? Yes, please come
forward. Please state your name for the record.
Sullivan: Sue Sullivan, Idaho Transportation Department, Project Manager. I
have been working on this corridor.
De Weerd: Sue, why don't you pull the microphone down?
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Sullivan: I did want to echo what the Mayor said in that sometime ago when the
North Meridian Comprehensive Plan was in progress, there was a plan to have
these half mile collector roads and the ITD policy is a half mile and we did work
towards being on the same locations with our access and I think we actually felt
like we had accomplished something by getting that far. I mean, that in itself was
a step forward and maybe it is easy to think in hindsight that we probably should
have done better, but I think given the circumstances at the time that was
probably, you know, a step forward and I just want to mention the other thing with
a typical section that is a part of our consideration, there are two items. One is
that we have something called a clear zone, which is a part of our design
guidelines that protects a driver who should leave the roadside, that they have a
relatively flat clear roadside in order to recover the vehicle. That is built into our
typical section and at the higher speeds that is 30 feet and that is a lot of
property. We do feel like we want to you know have a goal as the safest road
that we can plan for out there and that is one of the safety features of that typical
section. The other is you know this idea of you know do we have curb, gutter
and storm sewer or a barrow ditch? We kind of jokingly at one meeting changed
the name from the barrow ditch to the bio infiltration swell. One of our issues is
just trying to capture all of that storm water and it is becoming a greater
challenge all the time in finding a place to clean it, drain it, store it and all those
things and I guess the feelings of the project team at this time are that that is the
most sustainable design that we could do in there. That said - the deal on that is
not closed at all, but that is a part of why we are having those ditch sections is to
avoid a traditional storm sewer system and something that will help retain water
on site to some degree. Thanks.
Borton: Thank you, Sue. Anybody else from the public that would like to come
forward?
Ageretta: Miguel Ageretta, Building Contractor's Association. Mr. President,
Madame Mayor. I am sorry I got a little bit late here this evening. I was down at
the capital having good wholesome fun today. I just wanted to make a couple
very general statements from what I have heard from several of my members.
One we all of course appreciate that long term planning that Councilman
Zaremba spoke to earlier. We want to look long term and have that good roads,
good access management planning. I think along those lines, we also want to
make sure that existing commitments, existing planning are also honored and
that is - we certainly don't interfere with a development or developers ability to
have access to certain projects and that sort of thing. I know one of the other
sorts of issues particularly with 20/26 and projects nat dissimilar from this is the
idea of the right-af-way. Apparently they are just is an area that we can't find a
balance to on this - the 200 feet verses 140 foot right-of-way and just again want
to make comment that I think it needs to be realistic and I think that what I have
heard from the development community, 140 feet is much more realistic and
practical for everyone involved. I just want to reiterate that that there is certainly
a balance between growth, safety and just being realistic about what the needs
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truly are. So, again very brief comments. But, thank you and I will stand for any
questions.
Borton: Thank you, Miguel. Any questions? Any other members of the public
that care to provide comment? Okay, we sort of blend into Item No. 4 which is
Council discussion and comments session and we sort of blended three and four
together. We appreciate the public comment and I think as Mr. Trainer had said
at the start, if there are any members of the public that are here now as we go
forward that would also like to provide any comments or questions in writing, it
sounds like there are some forms here in the back that are available and I
believe the COMPASS office can provide those as well to anyone now or in the
future who cares to make any comments with regards to the expressway option
concepts which have been presented for us today. Council any other questions
or comments?
Bird: I have none.
Zaremba: No, thank you.
Borton: I would like to thank Don and Charles for coming and for providing us
this information and participated in this open house forum.
Zaremba: Mr. President.
Borton: Mr. Zaremba.
Zaremba: Did Matt want to add anything?
Ellsworth: No sir, Mr. President, Councilman Zaremba I am all set.
Borton: With that we appreciate the information and that brings us to the end of
our special meeting open house. I would entertain a motion to adjourn.
Bird: So moved.
Zaremba: Second.
Borton: It has been moved and seconded to adjourn. All those in favor.
THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT. MOTION CARRIED.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 6:47 P.M.
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