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Meridian Planning & Zoning
December 5. 2002
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Borup: Motion and second. All in favor? Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Item 5.
Public Hearing: MI 02-009 Request for adjustment 0 f a rea 0 f impact
between the cities of Meridian and Boise in an RUT zone for Winston
Moore by Winston Moore - northwest corner of North Eagle Road and
East Ustick Road:
Borup: The next item is Public Hearing MI 02-009, a request for adjustment of the area
of impact between the cities of Meridian and Boise in an RUT zone for Winston Moore,
located at the northwest corner of North Eagle Road and East Ustick Road. I'd like to
open this Public Hearing at this time and, again, start with the staff report.
Siddoway: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission. The subject
property is along Eagle Road north 0 f Ustick outlined in black there. That parcel is
currently in the Boise area of impact. This miscellaneous application is to modify our
area of impact to allow this parcel to come into the City of Meridian's area of impact. I
guess that's the only slide I have. You should have a letter from Tye A. Ketlinski. I was
told he's in the audience tonight and I'm going to allow him to address the issues in his
letter. I would simply point 0 ut you do not have a staff report 0 n this one, if you're
searching for it. This issue has been before the Meridian City Council, as well as the
City of Boise's City Council, and has basically received approval -- tentative approval
from each body. Specifically, they went before the City of Boise in February of 2001,
just under two years ago now. It was presented to them. We do have a letter from
Mayor Coles on Boise letterhead basically stating that they have reviewed the request
and are in agreement with it. At that time, the city was unwilling to provide -- the City of
Meridian was unwilling to provide a will-serve letter. As of September of this year, there
was a letter dated September 9th from Mayor Corrie of the City of Meridian stating that
we will agree to serve that property with city services. Basically, both cities are in
agreement at this point with this -- with the inclusion of this parcel into Meridian area of
impact and staff recommends approval of the application. I will stand for any questions.
Centers: Mr. Chairman. Steve, basically, what we are saying is that we will serve it
with services, if and when we can annex it and it becomes contiguous to another city
property?
Siddoway: That is correct. I'm going to let Bruce address that one.
Freckleton: Commissioner Centers, Members of the Commission, the City of Meridian
is in the process of constructing the South Slough Sewer Trunk. That trunk line will be
bringing sewer out onto Ustick Road and right across the frontage of Mr. Moore's
property. He owns this property as well. Our sewer and water -- we have water down
Ustick Road already. Sewer will be going right in front and so services will be able to be
provided from Ustick Road. As far as the boundary lines -- the existing boundary lines,
Summerfield Subdivision is in this area right here. There is a proposed development
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here. We have not had the application formally approved. There are other properties in
the neighborhood around here that have expressed interest in annexation as soon as
the route of annexation opens up. This property on the corner is the Caven parcel that
you heard several months a go so it's the logical progression of the city out into this
corner.
Centers: Yes. Bruce, wasn't this annexed because of being contiguous across the
street with Wal-Mart? I remember that. What was this?
Zaremba: This is by Summers Funeral Home.
Centers: Okay. Okay. Not to steal Mr. K ellinski's thunder, but a II we are deciding
tonight is that, yes, we will agree to provide services, because we will have them
available, if and when it's annexed. It would have to be contiguous to be annexed.
Some of the things in Mr. Ketlinski's letter can't be dealt with at this time. True?
Siddoway: That's true more specifically, this application tonight -- sorry, Bruce. This
application tonight is to amend the area of impact.
Centers: Right. Right.
Siddoway: A nd many 0 f t he issues in the letter would be dealt with upon a n actual
development application on the property.
Centers: And annexation and --
Borup: Annexation and zoning and a Development Plan.
Centers: Right. Thank you.
Borup: Okay. Okay. Anything else? Would the applicant like to make any additional
presentation?
Seel: Good evening. Jonathan Seel, 600 North Steel head in Boise, Idaho. W.H.
Moore Company. For what it's worth, I will stick this up here. That depicts the area that
Mr. Moore owns. Something else, first that I'd like to pass out I think it depicts this a
little bit better. This is the actual area of impact that we are talking about. It's a little bit
smaller. What I just wanted to mention, I have given you an eight and a half by eleven -
- you can see the crosshatched area is the actual area we are talking about. The issue,
as I understand it tonight, is simply to modify the area of impact to include this land
within the City of Meridian or within the Meridian impact area and take it out of Boise.
As Steve says, back in, I believe, 2001 City Council for Boise and Mayor Coles said it
was a fair and reasonable request. We have since then met in a renegotiation meeting
with Ada County and the City Council for Meridian and they feel it's reasonable. What
has already been addressed is we have been provided with a will-serve letter, which
says at the time that services are available we will have that. That's really, in my
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understanding, not an issue tonight and we will also agree to consent to annexation at
the time it is available so we will not oppose it. Tonight we are simply here just to -- as
you can see, this area right approximately here, this is Eagle Road, this is Ustick, Mr.
Moore owns this land right here kind of in this purple area and it's this area right here
that is currently within the City of Boise that we are talking about. Any further work with
this as far as the annexation and rezone, we will come back for an application at that
point. Hopefully, that clears that up so I'm glad to answer any questions.
Borup: Any other questions for Mr. Seel?
Zaremba: I'm just assuming the point is to unify the property and deal with one city.
Seel: Exactly. We have got 58 acres and it's a little difficult to have a project in there
where part of it might be within the City of Boise, and part of it's in the City of Meridian.
Where do you stop sewer for one and start sewer for another, police, fire, and the
various other things. Yes, we feel that this would be the most beneficial all the way
around and, obviously, Boise feels it makes the most sense, too. We had a hearing and
that hearing with the City of Boise P&Z formally was set for next Monday, December 9th.
Unfortunately, we did not advertise this within the two-week period, so there was
concern about that. It's now been postponed until January 13th. It w ill be heard on
January 131h in front of P&Z and go on to City Council, so--
Centers: That's really the biggie. They have got to release it. I think it's a real plus for
us, but that's your main hurdle, I suspect.
Seel: Well, Commissioner Centers, I don't think it's really a hurdle at this point. I think
they have indicated to us that -- as they say in the letter, it's fair and reasonable is the
term they use. We don't see any opposition. I have talked to Wayne Gibbs about it,
too, and no one has at this point opposed it. In fact, my verbal communications with the
city so far is they don't -- there has not been any opposition. Yes, formally, it hasn't, but
I think if you're a betting man, I think it's going to go through.
Centers: Of course, the letter is dated almost two years ago.
Seel: Yes but we have talked to them and resubmitted and since then we have talked
to them and they are aware of the reason why it was postponed. They are still in
support of it. Thank you very much.
Borup: Do we have anyone else to testify on this application? If so, come forward at
this time. Now is the time.
Ketlinski: Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, Mr. Attorney, I'm Tye Ketlinski. I wrote the
lette r.
Borup: You might need to get the mike up a little closer.
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Ketlinski: I'm Tye Ketlinski, I wrote the letter to the Commission regarding some of the
citizens concerns in the Jasmine Homeowners Association, which is just north of this
parcel. You didn't steal my thunder per se I know that we are not addressing the issue
of what they are going to do with this. Quite frankly, the people that I represent realize
that change is inevitable and I don't think I would want to be in Boise either. With that, I
just wanted ton ote that my I elter I think p relty much explains the concerns. I think
everybody's fright is that their house in a nice area as this, is going to end up with a
Wal-Mart next to it with two trillion watts of candle power flashing into their bedroom
window every night. I just wanted to come, express my concern on behalf of at least
three of the residents of the Jasmine Homeowners Association, and just say that we do
have some concerns about the future of this particular parcel. If there are no questions,
I'll have a seat.
Borup: Any questions?
Centers: Mr. Chairman. I think you're fortunate to have a quality developer and I would
highly recommend that when the development starts, that you have your neighborhood
meetings. We highly encourage that, with the developer, and that's when you do your
talking about, you know, the lights that you mentioned and you get things ironed out.
Ketlinski: With all candors, I did have a conversation today on the telephone with Mr.
Seel --
Centers: Good.
Ketlinski: - and he explained to me what their -- he was willing to sit down, at least with
the neighborhood association, and talk about what may go on that property.
Borup: And there will be notification both when it comes time for annexation and zoning
and any development, all that would be notified and we -- as Commissioner Centers
said, we want to see 0 n projects 0 f certain sizes, we want to see the neighborhood
meetings. Right now we are encouraging it and soon we are going to be requiring it, I
believe.
Ketlinski: Well, I appreciate that and I appreciate the opportunity to speak.
Zaremba: I would just say I noted as I read through your letter that the homeowners
association is split between the two cities. We would welcome those that are not in
Meridian to try and join Meridian in the same process that we are going through right
here.
Ketlinski: And I think they are considering that, because they want to be in Meridian as
well. Thank you.
Centers: Are they in the City of Boise now, though?
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Ketlinski: I think they are in the area of impact.
Borup: Are they still in Ada County city limits of Boise?
Centers: That's the way I read it.
Borup: That surprises me.
Zaremba: Well, I don't think we will ever get them back if they are actually in the city,
but --
Borup: Okay. Yes. If it's in the city limits, then, I think so. I think it's -- I was assuming
it was just area of impact.
Ketlinski: I think it was three years ago. I'm not sure now. I can't --
Borup: Okay. That's for them to research. Thank you. Do we have anyone else on
this? Okay. Seeing none, Commissioners?
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman, I move the Public Hearing be closed.
Rohm: Second.
Borup: Motion and second to close the Public Hearing. All in favor? Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Centers: Mr. Chairman, I would recommend approval of Item 5 on our agenda, Public
Hearing MI 02-009, request for adjustment of area of impact between the cities of
Meridian and Boise in an RUT zone for Winston Moore by Winston Moore, northwest
corner of North Eagle Road and East Ustick Road, with applicable staff comments.
Mathes: Second.
Zaremba: Motion and second. All in favor? Anyopposed? Thank you.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Item 6.
Public Hearing: MI 02-011 Request to remove certain parcels in Dunbar
Estates Subdivision from City of Meridian's area of impact for Packard
Estates Dev., LLC by Packard Estates Dev., LLC - south of East Ustick
Road and west of North Cloverdale Road:
Borup: The next item is Public Hearing MI 02-011, request to remove certain parcels in
Dunbar Estates Subdivision from the City of Meridian's area of impact for Packard
Estates Development, LLC. They are trying to do just the opposite.