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Meridian City Council Special Meetina
November 8. 2006
A Special Meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 7:13 P.M.,
Wednesday, November 8, 2006, by Mayor Tammy de Weerd.
Members Present: Mayor Tammy de Weerd, Shaun Wardle, Keith Bird, Charlie
Rountree, and Joe Borton.
Others Present: Bill Nary, Will Berg, Anna Canning, Jeff Lavey, Bill Johnson, Len
Grady, and Dean Willis.
Item 1:
RolI.call Attendance:
Roll call.
X Shaun Wardle
X Charlie Rountree
X
X Joe Borton
X Keith Bird
Mayor Tammy de Weerd
De Weerd: Okay. I will go ahead and call this meeting to order. Good evening. We
appreciate you all being here with us tonight. It is Tuesday -- or it's not Tuesday. It's
Wednesday, November 8th. It's 7:15. We will start with roll call attendance. Mr. Berg.
Item 2:
Pledge of Allegiance:
De Weerd: Tonight we are very honored to have with us the Mountain View soccer
team, the state champions, and I think we might have a few of our JV players as well.
At the JV level they don't go all the way to state, but I might note that the JV team is
also the district champions. So, you have a lot of outstanding soccer players certainly in
our presence. We appreciate you being here with us tonight and I will ask you if you
will, please, lead us in the pledge of allegiance. If you will all rise.
(Pledge of allegiance recited.)
Item 6:
Department Reports:
A. Mayor's Office
1. Proclamation for Recoanition of Mountain View Hiah
School Boys Soccer Team State Champions:
De Weerd: Well, Council, if you don't mind, I will go ahead and move the proclamation
up on our agenda and today we are declaring it Mountain View High School Boys
Soccer Team Day and with that I will read the proclamation and, then, present it to the
team and along with some City of Meridian pins. Whereas the City of Meridian
recognizes and commends the Mountain View High School Boys Varsity Soccer Team
for having an outstanding season this year and whereas this team has compiled 14
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wins, four losses, two ties in their season record, with a total of 95 goals made and 25
goals scored upon and whereas this team took home the state 5A high school boys
soccer championship on October 21 st, 2006, and whereas the Mayor and City Council
of the City of Meridian acknowledges the accomplishments and efforts of this team,
coaches, trainers, cheerleaders, students, faculty, athletic director, parents, boosters,
and supporters, and whereas this soccer team took away from this season more of the
memories about soccer, but life lessons learned through team efforts and their coaches,
and whereas this is the first team in the Mountain View High School history to win a
championship, therefore, I, Tammy de Weerd, Mayor of the City of Meridian, hereby
proclaim Wednesday, November 8th, as Mountain View High School Boys Soccer
Team Day in the City of Meridian in recognition for the success of the Mountain View
High School boys soccer program this season. Congratulations to all of you. Job well
done. I think what I will ask you to do is as I present your pins if you will step up to the
mike and just tell your name, age, your level in school, so that we will have a chance to
know who you are, so -- and first is coach -- would you, please, step forward. We know
-- no coach is always in the background, but certainly we want to share our
appreciation.
Ajir: Well, Madam Mayor, thank you for having us in here. I want to have my assistant
coach also come up, Chuck Sykes. We want to present you with a bouquet of flowers
from the team and a T-shirt championship -- state championship T-shirt. It has -- it does
have their names on it, so thanks for having us here, so -- okay. My name is Dean Ajir,
I'm actually from Boise area, but I coach over here at Mountain View and I'll pass it off
to you.
Sykes: Well, I'm the assistant coach to Dean. I'm Chuck Sykes, I live in the Meridian
School District.
De Weerd: Okay. I'm pleased to present the proclamation to you and congratulate and
-- sorry, Dean -- congratulate you for a season that was incredible and wish you luck
next year.
Ajir: Thank you very much.
De Weerd: Congratulations.
Ajir: Thank you very much.
De Weerd: Now, if we can all introduce -- are you the team captain? If you'd like to
show your trophy and just introduce yourself.
Burnham: This is our trophy. I'm Daniel Burnham, I'm forward, and I'm a senior. Feels
good.
Ochsner: I'm Dylan Ochsner and I played defense throughout the whole year, so --
yeah. And I'm a senior as well.
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Channer: My name is Michael Channer. I'm a senior. I played forward also all year.
Bird: Walk into the mike guys.
Channer: Want me to start over? My name is Michael Channer, I'm a senior, I play
forward.
Allen: I'm Jacob Allen and I played goalie throughout state and right -- mid field and
some forward during regular season. And I'm a senior.
C. Allen: My name is Cody Allen, I'm a sophomore, wing, and that's where I played all
year.
Sykes: All right. I'm Nick Sykes. I played mid field and I'm a junior.
Hamm: All right. I'm Nathan Hamm, I played defensive mid field, and I'm a junior.
Bacon: Okay. I'm Jacob Bacon and I'm a junior and I play defense.
Jacobs: I'm Jake Jacobs, I'm a senior, and I play defense.
Lemus: Daniel Alberto Lemus, I'm a senior, and I play left mid field.
Richardson: Zach Richardson, I'm a sophomore, and I play mid field as well.
Sturm: I'm Brian Sturm, I played keeper throughout the season, and I'm a sophomore.
Fujimoto: I'm Stephan Fujimoto, aka Fuji, and I play defense and I'm a junior.
Wagner: My name is Gary Wagner, I play mid field, and I'm a sophomore.
Lawton: My name is Tyler Lawton, I play right mid field, and I'm a sophomore.
Ault: I'm Evan Ault, play on JV, and I'm a junior, and I playa little defense.
Shawver: I'm James Shawver and I'm a freshman and I played mid.
Reeves: I'm Brandon Reeves, I'm a sophomore, and I play defense.
Pearce: I'm Michael Pearce, I'm a sophomore, and I play defense mid field.
Captain: I'm one of the captains, I just wanted to say for -- thank you, Dean, for this
good year and kind put us through some bad moments, but we got passed that and
ended up winning state. So, yeah.
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Captain: Thanks, Dean. No, really, thanks, Dean for -- for the great season, and,
Chuck, appreciate it and thanks, Mayor, for this and -- for this opportunity that we have
to come here and -- yeah, so --
Player: Feels good.
Player: Anybody want to say anything?
Fujimoto: We would like to thank our great team manager Angie Veasy. And we are
going to need more wax.
De Weerd: We want to thank you all for joining us and, again, congratulations for a
great season and we will look forward to seeing you again next year. Okay. We love
taking the opportunity to recognize our youth and we appreciate you bearing with us.
It's -- it's not often do we have those opportunities.
Item 3:
Community Invocation by Bishop John Wheeler of the Meridian
Paramount Ward of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter.day Saints:
De Weerd: Okay. Next item on our agenda is our community invocation. We will be
led tonight by Bishop John Wheeler of the Meridian Paramount Ward of the Church of
Jesus of the Latter-day Saints. If you will all join us in the invocation or take this as an
opportunity for a moment of silence. Bishop.
Wheeler: Our Father in Heaven, at the beginning of this City Council meeting we take a
moment to give thee thanks for the blessings that we enjoy living in this great
community in this wonderful state in this free country that we enjoy, the freedoms that
are here, the freedoms that we have to participate in government, to express our voice
and our opinions, to elect our local leaders, and to participate in building this
community. Father, we have so many blessings to live in this prosperous area, things
that we enjoy, the wonderful community that this is. Father, at this time we pray a
blessing to be upon our leaders, those who give of their time here as part of the City
Council, the leadership here in Meridian, that thou would bless them with wisdom and
with guidance. Bless us to be able to work together as we wrestle with the challenges
of a growing community, that we may be able to work in partnership and in wisdom, to
be able to come together and find good solutions for the challenges that face us and
make this city a wonderful place to come to and a wonderful community to be a part of.
Father, we are so grateful, once again, for thy blessings, for the peace and prosperity
and freedoms that we enjoy and, again, pray that thou would watch over the
proceedings here this evening and bless us with wisdom and with guidance and
direction. Father, these things we do pray for at this time and do so in the name of Thy
Son Jesus Christ, amen.
De Weerd: Thank you, Bishop Wheeler. I would like to also present with you a City of
Meridian pin for joining us tonight. Thank you so much. Council, one more interruption
into our meeting. I had received an e-mail today and we appreciate the freedoms that
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our veterans have fought for and certainly sacrificed and we received an e-mail today.
On the day after election day where we have an opportunity to express ourselves
through out vote and a few days before Veterans Day we did think that this was an
appropriate reminder, so if you will all bear with us.
(E-mail video played.)
De Weerd: Thank you. Just a timely reminder of the sacrifices of those that have
served. Do we have any veterans in the room with us tonight? Ron in the back. Thank
you.
Item 4:
Adoption of the Agenda:
De Weerd: Okay. Council, adoption of the agenda, Item NO.4.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: On the Consent Agenda, Item F, which is resolution number 06-540 has been
asked to be moved to the regular agenda as 7-F. Item number R on the regular agenda
has been asked to be moved to the Consent Agenda of 11/14/06. On the regular
agenda Item No. 8 has been asked to be tabled to November 28, '06. And Items 9, 10,
11, and 12 have all been asked to be continued to 11/21/06. And on the regular agenda
Items 19 and 20 are ordinance. Our ordinance number for 19 is 06-1272 and Item No.
20 is 06-1273. With that I move we approve the revised agenda.
Rountree: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. I have a motion and a second to approve the agenda as amended.
All those in favor say aye. All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 5:
Consent Agenda:
A. Approve Minutes of October 3, 2006 City Council Regular Meeting:
B. Approve Minutes of October 10, 2006 Pre-Council Meeting:
C. Approve Minutes of October 10, 2006 City Council Regular
Meeting:
D. Approve Minutes of October 13, 2006 City Council Special
Meeting:
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E. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: PP 06.
040 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 55 residential, 7
common lots & 1 other lot on 32.45 acres in an R-8 zone for
Shepherd Creek Subdivision by Valley Shepherd Church of the
Nazarene & Shepherd's Creek, LLC - 2475 South Meridian Road:
G. Addendum to Development Agreement: MI 06.002 Request to
Amend the previously approved Development Agreement for
Walareen's Pharmacy ( RZ 05..008) to allow an 8-foot tall rather
than 6-foot tall CMU wall along the east property line by the
Hawkins Companies - 3150 West Cherry Lane:
H. Pathway Easement Aareement for Tustin Subdivision with
Dyver Development:
I. Public Works Change Order No. 3 for the Centrate Tank
Construction with Carollo Engineers:
J. Scope of Services for PRV SCADA Proaramming with DC
Engineers:
K. Water Main Easement Agreement for Boondock Properties,
LLC by Select Investment:
L. Approve Agreement for Creamery Demolition and Tree
Removal with Ideal Demolition:
M. Contract for Wastewater Treatment Plant Expansion Project
Task Order No.4 with Carollo Engineers:
N. Contract for the Five Mile Creek Flow Measurement Study with
Brown and Caldwell:
O. Water Main Easement Agreement for Valley Shepherd Church
by Valley Shepherd Church of Nazarene:
P. Sanitary Sewer and Water Main Easement Agreement for
Valley Shepherd Church by Valley Shepherd Church of the
Nazarene:
Q. Development Agreement: RZ 06-006 Request for a Rezone of
6.82 acres from R-8 to R-15 zones for Cedar Sprinas
Townhomes by John Flaherty Construction - south of West
McMillan and west of North Meridian Road:
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R. Aareement for Professional Services with Civil Survey
Consultants. Inc. for Enaineerina Services for Utility Projects
in Conjunction with ACHD Project:
S. Development Agreement: AZ 05.056 Request for Annexation
and Zoning of 6.08 acres from RUT to TN-R and 4.07 acres from
RUT to C-C zone for Harks Canyon Creek Subdivision by JBS
Enterprises, LLC - 1845 West Franklin Road:
T. Development Agreement: Lamont Kouba I Robnett
Construction for Initial Point Subdivision on East fairview
Avenue:
De Weerd: Item 5, Mr. Bird.
Bird: Madam Mayor, I move that we -- on the Consent Agenda, Item No. F be moved to
the regular agenda as 7-F. That is Resolution No. 06-540. And Item R I move that we
table that to November 14th, 2006. With that I move that we approve the Consent
Agenda as stated and for the Mayor to sign and the clerk to attest on all papers.
Rountree: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. I have a motion and a second to approve the Consent Agenda as
changed. Is there any discussion? Mr. Berg, will you call roll.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Wardle, yea; Borton, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 6:
Department Reports:
B. Legal Department:
1. Approve SWAC Recommendation for Benches for
Playground and Walkina Path for Under Elementary for
$1,369.00:
2. Approve SWAC Recommendation on Park Benches for
Fuller Park for Western Ada Recreation District for
$2,575.00
De Weerd: Okay. Item 6-A, we have already heard the proclamation for the Mountain
View High School soccer team, so we will move to Item B, our legal department. Mr.
Nary.
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Nary: Thank you, Madam Mayor. Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, there is a
couple of items that are on your packet that were items that were approved by the Solid
Waste Advisory Committee. Our standard process is to bring those back in front of you
for final approval. The first one is for benches at the -- for the playground and walking
path at Linder Elementary. It does meet all the criteria that's been previously
established by the Commission and approved by this Council, that it's -- at least 50
percent of it is provided by the applicant of the cost. Some of that's in equity of
installation, of that's in fund raising, that it be within the city limits, that it have some way
to memorialize what the -- what the contribution from the solid waste fund has been,
whether it's in a sign or some other method, that they will also provide that and this does
meet all those criteria for both items one and two. If you have any other questions,
Councilmember Rountree is also a member of the committee, so, hopefully, myself or
he can answer any other questions you may have.
De Weerd: Thank you, Mr. Nary. Any questions from Council?
Bird: I have none.
De Weerd: Okay. Council, I need a motion.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move that we approve the SWAC recommendations for benches for the
playground and walking path for Linder Elementary for 1 ,369 dollars and also to
approve the SWAC recommendation of park benches for Fuller Park for Western Ada
Recreation District for 2,575 dollars.
De Weerd: Okay. Do I have a second?
Wardle: Second.
Borton: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. I have a couple of them. We do have a motion and a second on
Items B-1 and 2. Is there any discussion? Okay. Mr. Berg, will you call roll.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, abstain; Wardle, yea; Borton, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSTAIN.
3. Discussion of Draft Arts Commission Ordinance:
De Weerd: Okay. Item 3. Mr. Nary.
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Nary: Thank you, Madam Mayor, Members of the Council. I'm going to pass out to you
__ you probably should have it on your laserfiche, but if any of you want a hard copy of it
__ we have a draft proposal for an establishment ordinance for a Meridian City Arts
Commission. Madam Mayor has tasked us -- we have had a couple of meetings on the
subject and we have put together a draft ordinance for this. There is a lot of work to be
done from this, so this is sort of the starting point for establishing a city-wide arts
commission. Part of that commission would be, then, tasked to create a plan for the
city, a long range comprehensive plan for public art and other type of activities or
projects they may want to participate in. There are available grants for these types of
things. There is some need that can be met through some public grants, through either
the state or other agencies, but this is sort of the initial phase of that. It's a very basic
ordinance. We did look at a couple of other cities in trying to establish an appropriate
type of commission. From reviewing it, probably one of the things we need some input
on is the size of the commission that you think is appropriate. Some cities have as
large as 15 people. I think that's a little too cumbersome to have for a commission.
Somewhere between five and seven. This one is five. Somewhere between five and
seven is a good working group, especially because of the initial commission is going to
be tasked with helping create some identity and some planning for the future for the city.
If you have too large a group that makes it a little unwieldy. That's the basics of the
ordinance in front of you. Certainly Madam Mayor may have more input about it, but if it
meets your needs, we can bring it on in the next week or two and put it on your agenda
for approval. If you have other input or issues you want us to address in here we can
do that as well.
De Weerd: Thank you, Mr. Nary. Council, Councilman Borton, our Planning Director
Anna Canning, Matt Ellsworth, Bill Nary, and a representative from the State Arts
Commission met to discuss this. She also provided us with a number of different
ordinances and grant ideas, those kind of things. So, this is the initial draft. We wanted
to get that in front of you, so that you can -- we can ask for discussion and your
direction. Mr. Borton, do you have anything you would like to add?
Borton: No. It was a great meeting, Madam Mayor, and I think it's a great opportunity.
The time is right when you look at the Ten Mile area plan and some of the other
developments that are taking place, that a commission like this adds great value to the
city. Mr. Nary, one of the questions I had to you on the ordinance -- and from my
perspective I'd like to see it come forward and get the process started. Whether or not
the ordinance itself should say there is five members or is it permissible to say a
minimum and a maximum and, then, allow the initial Commission through its bylaws to
establish what works best to be able to fine tune it, seven, nine, perhaps, and, then, let
the initial board do the bylaws and determine what works best. It looks great to me. I
appreciate your bringing it forward.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
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Bird: I believe this is a very very good step in the direction, but I have come to the
conclusion that I would like to step back to like we did when I first come on five, six
years ago, and put this on a pre-Council meeting for a five, ten minute talk and discuss
it and I don't -- you know, I'm only one vote out of four, but I'm -- I want to go back to the
old way of -- on ordinances, that we have a discussion before it passes and I -- while I
agree that this is a great deal, I want to really have a discussion on it.
De Weerd: Mr. Bird, I appreciate those comments and that is what the intent is is to,
first, introduce this to you in a public forum, give you a chance to look at it before we ask
for comments and discussion.
Bird: So, Council President, let's get this set up on a deal. I would appreciate that. If
the President agrees.
Wardle: We will do it.
De Weerd: Thank you.
Nary: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes, Mr. Nary.
Nary: Would the rest of the Council be at least for that discussion to amend the
membership section to a minimum of five up to nine? Is that -- I can make that
amendment and we can certainly have whatever other discussion you want.
Bird: That's what the discussion -- that's where we can discuss it.
Nary: Okay. All right.
De Weerd: Okay. We will bring this back next week. We do have a Pre-Council
agenda I believe on air quality. So, be a great partner with that.
Wardle: We have full pre-Council agendas from here until February, so we will get it on.
C. Council President's Report:
De Weerd: Thank you. Okay. Item 6-C. Mr. Wardle.
Wardle: Thank you, Madam Mayor. Item 6-C is the Council President's report and
Councilman Borton and I had a wager on the Boise State, University of Idaho football
game and because my daughter Taylor is here in the audience, I would like -- and this is
going to be on the record, to note that making a wager can have certain negative
consequences, but you should always honor your commitments and so I shall do that
and proclaim publicly that it is with great enthusiasm and heart-felt conviction that I take
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this opportunity to publicly proclaim my support of Boise State football and to tell all
present how proud I am of their great accomplishments.
Bird: And sing the fight song.
Wardle: Go Broncos.
Rountree: A little more enthusiasm.
De Weerd: Now, we could talk about the same weekend I believe that the WSU
Cougars beat a certain Oregon team and I, you know, didn't have a wager, because I
don't do that. Mr. Borton, do you have any comment?
Borton: Sean -- Councilman Wardle is a good sport. He read that word for word.
Wardle: Thank you for the opportunity.
Borton: I'll give you another one next year.
De Weerd: Okay.
Wardle: Thank you.
De Weerd: Thank you. So, that's your report, uh?
Wardle: That's it.
Item 7:
Items Moved from Consent Agenda:
F. Resolution No. 06.540 V AC 06.012 Request for a
Vacation of 2 feet of the required 5 foot side drainage and irrigation
easement on the east side of Lot 16, Block 12, of Paramount
Subdivision No.7 by Brighton Corporation - 1037 West Bacall
Street:
De Weerd: That was worth it. Okay. We did remove an item from the Consent
Agenda. Item F on resolution number 06-540.
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, last week or -- I think it was last
week you approved a vacation for a drainage and utility easement of three feet. We got
__ or two feet. I'm sorry. And the record of survey came through and instead of having a
full four foot setback, which would lead to the two foot vacation, they have a 3.93
setback. So, there is .07th of a foot, which is about an inch, that -- so we need to
amend the resolution for the vacation to say two feet and an inch or 2.07 feet, but we
did need to amend that resolution. And the applicant is here if you want to chastise him,
but we do ask that you make that change to the resolution.
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De Weerd: That's why you brought your daughter. Oh, that is just shameless. Mr.
Nary.
Nary: Madam Mayor, it was my recommendation that we pull it off this Consent Agenda
and make note of it and, then, you -- the Council can recommend inserting that into the
written documents, so that it accurately reflects what it is and I guess if they could re-
read the BSU proclamation again, I guess that's the price you pay for making an error.
De Weerd: You did say it with a smile on your face, Councilman Wardle. I was very
impressed. Okay. Council, I guess you're being asked to pass this with the change as
reported -- or not. Or we can ask the applicant to comment. What is your desire?
Rountree: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: I would move that we pass as just indicated with the amendment.
Wardle: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. I have a motion and a second to pass Resolution No. 06-540, with
the changes noted.
Rountree: And I might add that -- to my motion that there be a time out to the applicant.
De Weerd: Can we put him in the corner? That's always effective. Okay. Any further
discussion? Mr. Berg, will you call roll.
Canning: Pardon, Will?
De Weerd: Will you, please, speak into your microphone, Mr. Berg.
Berg: Sorry, Madam Mayor, I was just making sure before I call roll that I had all the
documents that I needed for this resolution.
De Weerd: Okay.
Berg: And I was just inquiring if I needed to have a different exhibit attached. You can't
read the numbers as it is on the exhibit, which we have.
De Weerd: Mr. Nary.
Nary: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, what gets recorded is the -- additionally
is the resolution itself. So, your direction and your motion is to make that correction as
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noted by the planning director, they can make that correction on the record and record it
that way.
De Weerd: Okay.
Berg: And I guess my question, Madam Mayor, is if it's -- the exhibit doesn't follow what
it says in the resolution, then, we don't have the right exhibit. Now, all I'm asking is if I
have the right exhibit to follow up with the numbers on the resolution. And is that the
right exhibit?
Nary: I believe it is the right exhibit, because I think that's how we caught that the -- the
amendment was less than what was -- it's not the right exhibit.
Bird: No, because that's showing a three foot.
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I mean we have rounded -- this is a
rounding error that normally we wouldn't be concerned with. The only reason that we
were concerned was clearly identifying this one is because we are going to have a
recorded lot line adjustment that says 3.93 feet. I think the exhibit is fine, with the
clarification in the text there is an additional inch that's being vacated there.
De Weerd: Okay.
Rountree: That was the intent of my motion. I don't know how we go about getting
paperwork corrected.
Berg: Thank you, Madam Mayor, I will call roll.
De Weerd: Thank you.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Wardle, yea; Borton, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
De Weerd: Thank you. Before we move into our regular agenda, I will invite all of you
to make way for the future, it's our -- kind of our demolition party at the creamery, if
there is anything left. So, if you have noticed the creamery building has started the
demolition process, but we did want to have a ceremony that honors the roots of our
past and the history of that site as we make way for the new City Hall project. That is
on Monday, November 13th, at 11 :00 a.m. and it will be in the parking lot behind this
building over by the old Farmers and Merchants State Bank Building. So, we'd love to
have you join us for that ceremony.
Item 8:
FP 06.046 Request for Final Plat approval of 85 single-family residential
building lots and 8 common lots on 19.57 acres in a proposed R-8 zone
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for Cedarcreek Subdivision by Liberty Development, Inc. - near the
Northwest Corner of West McMillan Road and North Meridian Road:
De Weerd: Okay. Item 8 has been requested to continue to November 28th.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move we table FP 06-046 to November 28,2006.
Rountree: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. I have a motion and a second to continued Item 8 to the 28th. All
those in favor say aye. All ayes. Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 9:
Item 10:
Item 11:
Item 12:
Continued Public Hearing from October 24,2006: AZ 06.042 Request
for Annexation and Zoning of 20.18 acres from RUT to an R-8 zone for
Cottswold Villaae Subdivision by Cherie A. Dalton Living Trust - 2180
East Amity Road:
Continued Public Hearing from October 24, 2006: PP 06.044 Request
for Preliminary Plat approval of 62 residential lots and 9 common lots on
20.18 acres in a proposed R-8 zone for Cottswold Village Subdivision
by Cherie A. Dalton Living Trust - 2180 East Amity Road:
Continued Public Hearing from October 24,2006: AZ 06.044 Request
for Annexation and Zoning of 19 acres from RUT to an R-4 zone for
Whitebark Subdivision by Dan Wood - 2135 East Amity Road:
Continued Public Hearing from October 24, 2006: PP 06~046 Request
for Preliminary Plat approval of 48 residential lots and 8 common lots on
19 acres in a proposed R-4 zone for Whitebark Subdivision by Dan
Wood - 2135 East Amity Road:
De Weerd: Okay. Items 9, 10, 11 and 12 are continued public hearings from October
24th on AZ 06-042, PP 06-044, AZ 06-044 and PP 06-045. This has also been
requested to continue to November 21 st and I will need a motion.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
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Bird: I move that we continue the public hearings for Items 9,10, 11 and 12 -- you have
already given the numbers -- to November 21 st, 2006.
Rountree: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. I have a motion and a second to continue Items 9 through 12 to the
21st. All those in favor say aye. All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 13:
Public Hearing: AZ 06.041 Request for Annexation and Zoning of 8.95
acres from RUT to an R-8 zone for Harpe Subdivision by Larry C. Harpe
- 4715 North Locust Grove Road:
Item 14:
Public Hearing: PP 06.042 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 24
residential lots and 3 common lots on 8.95 acres in a proposed R-8 zone
for Harpe Subdivision by Larry C. Harpe - 4715 North Locust Grove
Road:
De Weerd: Okay. Item 13 is a Public Hearing on AZ 06.041 and Item 14 is PP 06-042.
I will open those two public hearings with staff comments.
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, this the Harpe project. It's located
on the southeast corner of the intersection of Locust Grove and McMillan, as shown
here. You will see that to the east and the south are developed, as well as partially to
the north. The applications before you today are an annexation and zoning and
preliminary plat. The plat includes 22 single family residential lots and three common
lots. The lot sizes range from approximately 7,532 square feet to 8,945 square feet
and, then, there is the one very large lot at the northern end of the property that's
89,833 square feet. They have proposed approximately .85 acres or 9.9 percent open
space. The gross residential density is 2.45 units per acre. The access is an existing
stub street, Bright Angel Avenue from Havasu Creek. So, it comes into the subdivision
and it does -- they do stub to the existing house lot, so they will be removing their
driveway and taking access from that stub street. And, then, there is a stub going east.
I should point out we are starting to see all of these come in. You have seen these two
before. We have done pre-apps on -- pre-application conferences; excuse me, on
these two. I think there is -- I think there is only one of these five acre lots that hasn't
come in for pre-application conferences at this point. We have some elevations as well.
I will let you see those. The Planning and Zoning Commission did recommend approval
at their October 5th Public Hearing. Van Elg spoke in favor. No one spoke in
opposition and none commented. There was written testimony from Oliver Palmer. The
key issues of discussion by the Commission were the overall density of the subdivision
and the future density of Lot 13, Block 1. That's the large parcel to the north. The key
Commission changes to staffs initial recommendation were to add a requirement to the
development agreement limiting Lot 13, Block 1, to a density of four dwelling units per
acre. I raise this as an outstanding condition only because what -- I need to explain a
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little bit what the Planning Commission was thinking. They recognize that although the
density was 2.45 units per acre, the one large lot really throws that off quite a bit. It
wouldn't be -- typically what you would -- the lot sizes you would expect. So, they did
ask for R-8 zoning, even though this is a low density residential Comprehensive Plan
designation. So, they did fit that category, but it was -- it was a little bit unusual,
because of the one large lot. So, the Planning Commission wanted to make sure that
as this lot developed they didn't develop at the full R-8 standards, which would allow
eight units to the acre. I think that perhaps what they weren't considering is that this lot
will still have a low density designation on it, which would only allow up to three units
per acre. So, I would be looking for Council's -- you may want to revise that current
development agreement provision that says they can only build up to four dwelling units
per acre, because the Comp Plan currently would only allow up to three without a step
up in density. So, that -- I talked to the applicant about this. They are fine kind of
anyway you want to go. They are okay with the four dwelling units per acre. If you want
to remove the condition entirely, I think they are in favor of that. That would just kind of
leave it to whatever the Comprehensive Plan designation is, although this lot will have
R-8 zoning. So, you may want to make some reference as to what kind of density you
anticipate, should this re-develop in the future. And with that I can end staff's
presentation. One final note. There has been no additional written testimony since the
Planning and Zoning Commission. And I'll answer any questions you may have.
De Weerd: Thank you, Anna. Any questions?
Bird: Madam Mayor, I just wanted clarification. In all the paperwork and everything it
says southeast corner of intersection of Locust Grove and McMillan. I think that's
southwest.
Canning: Southwest. I'm sorry. You're correct.
Bird: Okay. I just wanted to correct it for the --
Canning: I picked it up without thinking about it as well. So, I apologize for that.
De Weerd: Okay. Is the --
Rountree: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes.
Rountree: Anna, would you display the area and the current --
Canning: Zoning? This one? It's R-8 across the street in Settlement and, then, it is R-4
in Havasu. The project that you approved to the west was, I believe, R-4 also.
Rountree: Thank you, Anna.
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Wardle: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Wardle.
Wardle: Anna, you mentioned elevations. Did you show those?
Canning: Yes. There was just the one slide.
Wardle: Thank you.
Canning: Oh, there is two slides. Sorry, Van.
De Weerd: Thank you. Is the applicant here? If you will, please, state your name and
address for the record.
Elg: Sure. My name is Van Elg. I'm with the Land Group in Eagle, Idaho. 462 East
Shore, NO.1 00, in Eagle.
De Weerd: Thank you.
Elg: I represent Mr. Harpe tonight and we appreciate the opportunity to come and talk
about Harpe Subdivision. A couple of things I'd like to point out on this development is
we initially came in after review with staff and we had -- I think, Anna, was three or __
three more lots in this area here, but we also didn't plan on some issues with ACHD, as
Gary might be able to clarify if necessary, but we have provided for some turning
movement here at ACHD, some improved right of way widths there. In doing all of that
-- and also to satisfy some turnaround issues with the fire department, we have come
back in and readjusted these lots here. These, actually, don't require the step up or the
-- the -- they can comply with the applicable zoning. It's these right here that are
actually the step-up lots. As you can see, the Havasu lots down here, these are roughly
the same size as the existing development. So, we have got some that are, essentially,
the same size existing development and these here, which will be large in size. So,
step up just in this area. This lot right here will remain and we are comfortable with
what Anna has mentioned. We didn't come in thinking the development agreement
would apply. We understood that should this owner here decide to redevelop in the
future that he would have to come in and apply -- or apply for an application, re-
subdivision of the lot, if necessary. He's got a nice home there. I don't think that will __
he indicates that probably won't happen for some time. But should that happen we
have provided a stub right there for future access and coordinated that with ACHD as
well. That should provide access here. It eliminates access -- you know, direct
driveway access to McMillan. And, again, if he comes into redevelop his site he will
have to comply with the two applicable documents. One is the Comprehensive Plan,
which currently states three dwelling units per acre, and with the applicable zoning.
Granting the R-8 zoning now saves the need to come back in to rezone it again, which
would probably occur I would guess. We have tried to map that out several ways.
Essentially, it's -- where that road lies right now you will see that it will end up with
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similar type lot developments there if that house were to go away and ever develop in
that area there. So, essentially, we brought this down to 22 lots, where we had 24 or 25
initially I think it was. I don't -- unless you have any other specific questions of me, I
think that was, really, the most pending or significant issue and we learned of this issue
today when Justin called us about their concerns with the -- which Anna just mentioned.
And, again, we are comfortable just removing the DA, if you're comfortable with that,
and just allowing it to be a -- let the two applicable documents apply.
De Weerd: What is that second building on the existing lot?
Elg: The garage. A shop.
De Weerd: Okay. Council, any questions for the applicant?
Rountree: I have none.
Bird: I have none, Mayor.
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you.
Elg: Thank you.
De Weerd: This is a Public Hearing. Is there anyone who would like to provide
testimony on this application? Okay. Any further comments from the applicant? Staff?
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I would -- the applicant has
suggested that just removing the condition from the development agreement may be the
most appropriate thing. I would hope you would seek Mr. Nary's advice on whether the
R-8 zoning would imply that they were eligible for eight units to the acre on that, if we
might not be looking at some problems in the future.
De Weerd: Thank you, Anna. Mr. Nary.
Nary: She's right. Madam Mayor, Members of the Council --
De Weerd: Wow, that's the shortest answer.
Nary: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I think that would be the concern.
mean if you didn't split the zoning and create two zones, if you didn't have a
development agreement, then, it would certainly imply to a future development that all of
it is R-8 zoning. So, it would be wise to have that restriction on a development
agreement as a future guard against that being redeveloped at that -- at that density.
Just a little supplement to the short answer.
De Weerd: Thank you. Any questions from Council? Is the applicant okay with that?
Would you like to comment?
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Elg: Sure. That works with us. If the development agreement will clarify it, that was an
issue we discussed with Justin, too, would cause any concerns in the future with the R-
8 zoning. The Comp Plan would still apply, as I understood it, but it could cause some
confusion. We suggested other options of putting a note on the plat or something, but
we just want to keep it simple, so that it's -- it doesn't become a troublesome thing. But
if you'd rather -- development agreement it is and that will work for us.
De Weerd: Okay. Yes, our staff loves plat notes. Okay. Council, anything further?
Okay. Anna?
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I think Mr. Nary -- I wasn't sure he
was suggesting it, but I don't think it's something we talked about before, but you -- they
could -- you could always step down the zoning on that large property, if that's one way
you wanted to take care of this. We have gotten new legals and just done that as part
of the Findings before when it's -- when it's a step down you can -- you have the ability
to do that. So, if it was a concern about having the R-8 zoning, we could go to an R-4
on that lot.
De Weerd: Or it's a current zoning, which -- or current allocation at the three; correct?
The low density?
Canning: That's what the Comprehensive Plan states, Mayor, but the zoning being
proposed is R-8, which has -- allows up to eight dwelling units per acre.
De Weerd: Okay.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes, Mr. Bird.
Bird: Anna, that's Lot 13, Block 1?
Canning: Yes, sir.
Bird: Before we close the public hearings, if we was to change that to R-4, does that
have any problem with the applicant?
De Weerd: No.
Bird: Come up and say it.
De Weerd: I believe that's what he said in his testimony. We will get confirmation,
since Councilman Bird asked the question.
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Elg: R-4 zoning would be fine. If it wouldn't delay the application or anything, if we just
have to -- I assume it's just -- Madam Mayor and Anna, if it's just a matter of submitting
a new legal description and we can -- we can handle that as well.
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you. Okay. Council?
Rountree: Madam Mayor, if there is no further discussion, I move that we close the
Public Hearings on Items 13 and 14.
Bird: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. I have a motion and a second to close the public hearings on Items
13 and 14. All those in favor say aye. All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
De Weerd: Okay. If there is no discussion -- is there? I would entertain a motion.
Rountree: Madam Mayor, I move that we approve Item 13, AZ 06-041, with the
stipulation that Lot 13 of Block 1 be annexed and zoned as an R-4.
Bird: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. I have a motion and a second to approve Item 13, with the change
as noted. Any discussion? Okay. Mr. Berg.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Wardle, yea; Borton, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
De Weerd: Okay. Item 14.
Rountree: Madam Mayor, I move that we approve Item 14, PP 06-042.
Bird: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. I have a motion and a second to approve Item 14. If there is no
discussion, Mr. Berg, will you call roll.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Wardle, yea; Borton, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 15:
Public Hearing: AZ 06.032 Request for Annexation and Zoning of 29.31
acres from RUT to an R-8 zone for TriloQY Subdivision by Conger
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Management Group - south side of Chinden Boulevard and east of Black
Cat Road:
Item 16:
Public Hearing: PP 06.032 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 148
single-family lots and 14 common I other lots including 2 private street lots
on 28.17 acres in a proposed R-8 zone for Triloay Subdivision by
Conger Management Group
De Weerd: Thank you. Items 15 and 16 are public hearings on AZ 06-032 and PP 06-
032. I will open these two public hearings with staff comments.
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, this is the Triolgy Project. It's
located on the south side Chinden Boulevard approximately 250 feet east of Black Cat
Road. You will recognize some of its neighbors. You have Bainbridge Subdivision to
the east and Keego Springs to the south. The applications before you tonight are
annexation and zoning and preliminary plat. The project is -- well, the area is, actually,
part of an existing subdivision called Rambo Subdivision. It was a county-approved,
non-farm subdivision. This is, in fact, the deed restricted open space lot So it's Lot 2,
Block 1, of Rambo Subdivision. The applicant is proposing 145 single family residential
lots, 12 common lots, and four private street lots and one future right of way. The lot
sizes range from 4,000 square feet to 9,200 square feet and the average lot size is
approximately 5,000 square feet. You will notice some other things. They have
provided ITD with the requested right of way and I'm sure the applicant will go through
the different varieties of housing types, so I will leave that to him, that are being
proposed on the site. The gross residential density is 5.1 units per acre and we have
added some DA requirements. One of them being that access to Chinden Boulevard
shall be prohibited from this site and they aren't proposing any. The applicant shall be
required to dedicate the right of way, construct the landscaping and pathway and noise
mitigation along Chinden Boulevard as required by ITD and the City of Meridian. The
applicant should dedicate right of way in accordance with ITD's requirements to allow
for future highway expansion, so that's a hundred feet from center line is proposed.
Until secondary access can be provided to the site, the Meridian fire department is
limiting residential construction to 50 units. They do have a stub street from Keego
Springs and a stub street into Paramount and, then, they have access to an existing
street into the subdivision.
De Weerd: Is that Bainbridge and not Paramount?
Canning: I'm sorry. Bainbridge.
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you.
Canning: One large David Turnbull project versus another. I'm sorry. I do have some
elevations. These are attached units. I'll just kind of go through those and, then, I'm
sure the applicant will spend more time on those. The Commission has recommended
approval at their October 5th Public Hearing. Dave McKinnon spoke in favor of the
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application. There was no one in opposition or commenting and no written testimony
received. The key issues of discussion were the sidewalk and asphalt improvements
along Ramblin Court and the location of Sweitzer Avenue, so the adjacent property can
use it effectively. The key Commission changes to staff's recommendation were that
they did require the applicant to road trust for the sidewalk on Ramblin Court east of
Sweitzer Avenue. This is Ramblin Court coming into the -- they had to road trust for the
sidewalk going this short distance east before it goes down toward the cul-de-sac. And
widen the pavement to at least 30 feet west of Sweitzer Avenue. So, this portion here.
The key Commission -- oh, I already said that. The outstanding issues for Council -- the
revised landscape plan now shows a large storm water retention pond in Lot 8, Block 5.
It wasn't consistent with their previously shown landscape plan. So, we just want to
make sure that the applicant in their testimony explains what is their percentage of open
space, because the drainage lot will not count, unless it meets certain qualifications.
So, we just want to make sure we have an accurate representation of what the open
space is. Also, we want to make sure on this west property line that the applicant is
actually constructing the roadway there. We have been told several times that they are,
but none of the drawings really show it to make it clear. So, we just want them to go on
the record to state that that right of way does actually go to the adjoining property and
the importance of that is this adjoining property, we have talked to them in pre-apps
before and once you provide the necessary buffers from Chinden and from Black Cat
there is very little developable area and we wanted to make sure that they would be
able to basically connect to the Sweitzer Avenue coming into the property and take
advantage of that, because there is no room to put a roadway on their property. And
with that I can answer any questions that the Council may have and I know this is a little
bit more density than you have seen in awhile. We have seen a lot of -- a fair amount of
larger lots, but I want to point out some -- this -- we do have surrounding properties
here. This is one of the last in this area to actually come in. We have Volterra that took
up most of the southern portion of this section, although this has not come in for specific
approvals, it is held by Brighton Corporation for future development. So, this really is
one of the last remaining pieces. It is up against Chinden. It is shown as residential on
the Comprehensive Plan and that's what they are working with. So, staff has been
supportive of working with the applicant. It's a challenging site and they are introducing
some new product types for your consideration tonight. And with that I will stop.
De Weerd: Thank you, Anna. Any questions? Yes, Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Madam Mayor. Anna, what are the lot sizes on the southern border adjacent
to the county sub?
Canning: Where it adjoins most of the county sub they have done their larger lots.
That's through here. I believe there is one -- this is Keego Springs in this area, so the
lot sizes there range from 9,000 -- that's Keego Springs. They are generally in the
8,000 to 9,000 square foot range.
Rountree: And what's -- there appears to be a larger lot along Chinden. Is that for --
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Canning: That's not part of this subdivision. That's the property that we are anxious to
make sure that they get a full length of right of way along their property. The adjoining
property.
Rountree: I'm talking about Chinden, not --
Bird: Talking about Chinden, not Black Cat.
Rountree: -- Black Cat.
Canning: Oh. This property up here?
Rountree: Right.
Canning: Or this up here? That's the landscape buffer.
Rountree: Okay. That's the landscape and that includes a noise berm?
Canning: Yes.
Rountree: Thank you.
Canning: Sure.
De Weerd: What side is that path on, Anna?
Canning: Is it -- you mean which side of the --
De Weerd: The hill.
Canning: -- the noise wall is it on?
De Weerd: Yes.
Canning: You will have to ask the applicant. I'm not sure.
De Weerd: Any other questions from Council?
Bird: I have none.
Rountree: I have none.
De Weerd: Okay. Is the applicant here? If you will, please, state your name and
address for the record.
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McKinnon: Thank you, Madam Mayor, Members of the Council. Dave McKinnon, 735
South Crosstimber. I'll just go ahead and jump right in where Anna left off. Talk just
really quickly with you about the issues that she brought up that may be issues that are
outstanding. Just to address your concerns, Councilman Rountree, for giving that -- if
you can go back one slide, Anna. This lot right here I think is the one you were asking
about, Councilman Rountree.
Rountree: Uh-huh.
McKinnon: Basically 60 feet that will be for future right of way. ITD can't purchase it
right now; they don't have the funds for that. They have asked for a hundred feet from
center line of Chinden. They have got 40 feet now, and an additional 60 feet, it gives
them a hundred feet from center line. So, in the future -- it's set aside for future right of
way. Beyond that, to the south of that is a 35 foot wide landscape buffer. The ten foot
wide pathway that's required be placed on the highway side, so I can be continuous all
the way down through along the highway, rather than going from subdivision to
subdivision to be broken in between. The issue that Anna brought up with the pond -- I
have handed out some handouts so you can see where the pond is located. It's in the
central lot. And, Anna, if you can fall forward a couple slides. I guess backwards. I'm
not sure the presentation. There you go. That's fine. It's not a storm drainage pond. I
think there may be some confusion between the staff and myself. This is not a storm
drainage pond. What it is, actually, is an irrigation pond. This site currently has
irrigation water that runs up the eastern boundary and, then, runs along Chinden
Boulevard -- there is a waste ditch that runs through here and it feeds into a pond in this
location right now. That pond has a pump in it. There is also an irrigation ditch that
runs along the southern boundary north, just follows the little jigsaw here and, then, runs
down the property boundary and also feeds the pond. There is not enough irrigation
water in acre inches for this to be set up with pressured irrigation on a rotational basis,
therefore, there is a need for an irrigation pond. So, it's very similar to the irrigation
ponds you see in Paramount Subdivision. Very different from the drainage ponds and a
wastewater pond. There will be a pump in there. Aeration as well. We also tried to
amenitize that lot. We have put pathways around it and as you can see in the site plan
that you have in front of you, in addition to the landscape plan we have gone ahead and
put pathways around it, some seating areas, a seating trellis, so we have tried to
amenitize it and make it into something that's actually a nice benefit to the community,
rather than making it into a place where we would be storing storm drainage. The other
issue that Anna brought up has to deal with Sweitzer Avenue right here. And the
thought -- and she wanted me to clarify, again, for one more time, rather than leave an
unfinished edge and do a half plus 12 roadway, like you typically would do adjacent to a
lot that's not developing, we have decided that we will go ahead and finish this off with a
rolled curb and an full curb, gutter, sidewalk section the full width of the road. And so
the drafter got a little over excited here and he put in the full width. Typically you see a
two foot behind sidewalk for right of way, so he put in the sidewalk and behind that you
can see there is a little bit of a bump out there. There is no intention to do that. We are
building the full right of way section, so there will be a sidewalk, rolled curb, so that
when this property redevelops in the future they will be able to take access directly from
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this. There will be no spite strip between that, so I just want to get that clarified right
away, so there is no other concerns with that. I apologize for the misunderstanding with
the storm drain -- it's not a storm drain, the irrigation pond, you know, something that
came up and we walked the site with Nathan Draper from Settler's Irrigation and, then, it
was one of the things that we knew we would have to keep. With that we added that to
it. When we met with your Planning and Zoning Commission they were given the same
drawings that you have in front of you and at that time it was intended to be shown as
part of the landscape plan. Now, Anna, if you can go back to the beginning of the
presentation and go down to -- show you how we got to the point we are at now. As
Anna pointed out, this is a somewhat difficult lot. It's rectangular shaped, it's not
triangular shaped, it's odd shaped. We have some restrictions to it. We have two stub
streets that currently don't exist. Keego Springs is not built; Bainbridge is not built at
this time. But we do know where those locations are, so we have designed around
those locations. We recognize that Chinden Boulevard is a type four highway, it's
access restricted, the only access to Chinden Boulevard will be through Bainbridge
Subdivision at their collector street, so we have no access at Chinden Boulevard.
Without an access here, access there, we are left with an access coming in off of
Ramblin. So, we decided to look at these access issues and tried to figure out what
kind of design would look -- would work well in this area. Once we started playing with
the accesses and got a feel for that, we went to the Comprehensive Plan. Your
Comprehensive Plan shows this property as medium density, three to eight units per
acre. So, we knew what our parameters were for density. And, then, we looked at the
surrounding subdivisions, Bainbridge Subdivision, Volterra Subdivision, Keego Springs.
To the north we have Tree Farm Subdivision that's recently been annexed and the plat
is coming to you soon. All very good developments and we said it looks like we already
have a lot of large lots in this area, we recognize that we are right on a transportation
corridor, Tree Farm will even have a commercial component to that, and in the old
Comprehensive Plan this is shown as part of a neighborhood center to have some
increased density in this area. So, we felt that this would be the appropriate type of use
in this area. We are excited to be a part of this developing area in the future. Within
those subdivisions is a commercial component in Tree Farm. We went and talked with
Wendell Bigham after all the discussions that he had and during the discussions he had
with Keego Springs to find out about a school site or a need for the school, the school
superintendent and Wendell told us that they have met their needs for a school in this
area through Keego Springs. I talked with your parks director and he said that he's
worked with Bainbridge to have the park in this area. So, we have a lot of the
components for a larger community here, so we have got some mixed use in this area
and this would fit in well with that. So, we decided to put in a mix of residential
components. Anna, if you can go to the next slide. I think it's one more. We decided to
do something that you pointed out, Commissioner -- Councilman Rountree. We put the
larger lots surrounding the subdivision and the reason that we did that is we recognize
from the minutes that -- from the meeting that you had with Keego Springs that it was
important to have large next to large. We, actually, only bound on to two properties, the
property owner that we purchased from and the property owner to the south of Mr.
Lawson, the Brown's property, we placed all of our large lots there. But in order to
reach the density that we would like to do, we felt that we would have to do a different
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type of product to the north of that, rather than put small skinny houses across the street
from larger houses on larger lots, we decided to do a paired housing product. And
that's to try to keep the scale when you drive down the street. So, instead of seeing
really small houses across from big houses, you can see that those elevations that we
showed earlier -- and, Anna, if you can go to those elevations really quick. Rather than
have a large three car garage house facing a skinny narrow house lot, we have paired
them together so there is a sense of scale and scope between the two. And so we have
devised some different floor plans that you can mix and match. There is three different
floor plans. There is unit A, C, and B, and you can mix and match those together and
they have a different frontage, a different type of feel for it. We have got the entrances
off to the sides and we have got the garages in the middle to try to separate some of the
living area. If you can go back one more again, Anna. Great. We put large landscape
buffers coming in, large landscaped areas in this location. Large landscape in the
middle. We have talked about the pond already. Another large landscape buffer at that
location. Then we went and looked at this area. We have -- this is our large area we
could look at. The property along the north side, the property along the eastern side.
Five thousand square foot lots. A standard size lot. And, then, in the interior we did an
alley-loaded product, with a narrower house brought up closer to the street and in the
middle we have a MEWs or an open space fronting lot. This open space in the middle,
it's approximately 90 feet wide and so all the houses will, actually, front onto that. If you
can -- if you have still got the rendering in front of you, you can see that we put some
trellis structures -- do you have that slide, Anna?
Canning: I'm not sure I do. Hold on.
McKinnon: You can stop right there. This is a project -- I believe this is in Denver. This
was a similar type of design that we were thinking of. Trellis structures at all the
entrances to that 90 foot wide area. It frames in the open space. You can see that
these all actually open onto a central courtyard type area space and the trellis structures
that serve to frame in that area, show this is open space and it's something different
from the rest of the subdivision to be used for open space within the subdivision. Also,
Anna, if you can flip on back a couple more slides. Come on back to the aerial, I guess.
Canning: That aerial?
McKinnon: Perfect. We have added some parking on the interior. Originally when we
brought this to your staff, your staff's been really instrumental in helping us with this.
We originally had these running the full length without a road down through the middle
and in talking with your fire department, police department, and your staff, they felt that
it would probably be more appropriate if we broke it down the middle, so that instead of
somebody that wanted to visit someone here, instead of having them park out on the
road and, then, have to walk down through to a central location. We could place the
parking in the middle if this distance was cut in half. We are dealing with lanes or
alleys, private roads through here. These are the four private road areas throughout the
subdivision. Down below, again, paired housing. This small area here was, basically, a
300-by-300 foot square. We sat down with your planning director and we tried a bunch
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of different options there and this is what we ended up with. We ended up with an open
space area, a full 29 foot street section here, instead of a one way is what we had
originally had planned. And some parking on the interior, because we recognize that
there would be very little parking in this area. We actually agree with all the conditions
of approval that your staff placed upon this -- upon this subdivision. We agree with the
Commission's recommendations for approval. The one that -- the item that was brought
up at the hearing -- if you can go back down to the slides that showed the area that had
to deal with sidewalk and just leave it right there. The actual right of way for Ramblin is
actually back by this ditch. All of this area is in the right of way. When Rambo
Subdivision was developed this landscaping was installed in the right of way, no
sidewalks were required. This road is approximately 29 feet wide. In the future when
we bring sewer down from Black Cat into the subdivision we will widen out the road, so
it's basically a foot wider and we can have sidewalks down through here. Basically
about where the big pine tree is. At the P&Z Commission meeting they said they didn't
see a need for that at this point or to take out the landscaping and they said we could
bond for that with ACHD and we have no problem bonding for it or building the sidewalk
at that location. We are happy to take over the license agreement for maintaining the
open space and to maintain the landscaping, redo the irrigation to make that work. So,
we are in agreement with the conditions of approval and ask if you have any questions
of us at this time.
De Weerd: Council, do you have any questions?
Bird: I have none.
Rountree: Madam Mayor, I have a question.
De Weerd: Yes.
Rountree: So, Mr. McKinnon, there is a license agreement with the existing subdivision
for maintenance of this?
McKinnon: A license agreement would be with ACHD to plant in their right of way.
Rountree: Okay.
McKinnon: And we would take that over.
Rountree: The homeowners association maintains this currently?
McKinnon: Yeah. The homeowners association maintains that right now and they are,
actually, getting irrigation from a domestic well within the subdivision and so we would
cut those lines and go ahead and hook that up to our pressurized irrigation system that
we are installing.
De Weerd: Okay. Anything else, Council?
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Bird: I have none.
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you.
McKinnon: Thank you.
De Weerd: Okay. This is a Public Hearing. Is there anyone who would like to provide
testimony? Good evening. If you will, please, state your name and address for the
record.
Brown: Angela Brown, 4595 West Ramblin Court.
De Weerd: Thank you.
Brown: So, as part of one of the owners in the Rambo Subdivision we have been
talking with Dave about -- at first we were much against having a road come in and
accessing our subdivision, just because we had all come in purchasing -- there is five
houses in our subdivision. We are on a dead end road right now, very limited traffic.
So, we had actually been to the Planning and Zoning meeting and we have had several
people speak about it and disagree that we did not want them to come into our
subdivision. However, with that being said, if they do get temporary access there, we
have asked Dave to work with us on creating a very nice formal entry with landscaping,
taking over what we do have as common area and, basically, putting in a nice entryway,
putting in a sidewalk for us here on this north side and he had talked about the sidewalk
from the pine tree up to their entrance. If it could be continued on the other side or at
least the nice landscaping could continue the full length to where we would meet up with
Black Cat Road, because, basically, once they come in and create that entry, they cut
off our irrigation and everything we have been doing to maintain it. So, rather than let it
go, then, you know, we just said make it pretty. If you are going to come in and be part
of our lane and add all this traffic, make it a formal entry onto our road, take over the
common area, and make it look nice. Add some trees, help give us kind of a buffer to
what the subdivision is going to be doing. Also along that my lot is down at the end of
the street in the southeast corner and I had talked to Dave as well, because we have a
berm in our backyard going up to where his subdivision is going to be, I just ask that
when they put the fence in there, if they can at least match up to our berm height, so
that the fence is a true six foot fence.
De Weerd: Anna, can you put the plat up there so she can point out which one is her's?
Brown: Where am I here? Oh. And, then, I have to learn how to control the pen, right.
This one here.
De Weerd: Oh. Okay. Thank you.
Brown: And that's pretty much my comments for --
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De Weerd: Thank you. Council, any questions?
Bird: I have none.
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you. Okay.
Carrico: If you could pull the picture back up of Ramblin Court.
De Weerd: Sir, if you can state your name and address.
Carrico: Excuse me. Brian Carrico. 4685 Ramblin Court.
De Weerd: Thank you.
Carrico: I'm sorry.
Canning: Sir, I didn't hear what you wanted.
Carrico: The landscape you showed in front where the --
Canning: Okay.
Carrico: First of all, my biggest problem is that the entryway they are putting isn't 250
feet, it's 220 feet from Black Cat and it gives you room to stack up ten cars from the
subdivision on out to Black Cat and from Black Cat -- or from Ramblin to Chinden there
is 660 feet. That gives you room for about another 35 cars. So, they are going to run a
thousand cars in and out of this subdivision a day and that doesn't really give you any
room to run the cars in and out. We are going to have a thousand cars a day running
into our mail boxes. They come right into our house. Besides the density, they have --
you know, they are spending all this money -- Dave presented a great presentation, you
know, the subdivision looks really nice and stuff, but if they are going to spend this
much money on giving a privacy border, a noise border on Chinden to the new houses,
why can't we at least get some kind of border in this area and where the entrance
comes in is about 20 feet this side of that sign and down to the pine tree, on the other
side of the pine tree, there is already a berm built with pine trees in it. If nothing else,
besides what Angie said, if we can't get a decent entryway, why can't we at least have a
nice border put up along there or use this only for an emergency access, which was
what we were told originally was that exit would just be for an emergency, they weren't
going to use it for their main exit for their subdivision, now that they decided since they
can only build 50 houses until they get the other infrastructure built in, they want to do
this to us. I mean it actually -- it just destroys our lives. It really does.
De Weerd: Okay. Council, any questions?
Bird: I have none.
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Rountree: None.
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you, sir.
Janicek: Brad Janicek. 4325 West Chinden Boulevard.
De Weerd: Thank you.
Janicek: Madam Mayor, City Council. Hi, Anna, how are you doing?
Canning: Just fine.
Janicek: Can you put the overhead up? Yeah. That's the one. How do you turn this
on? I have got this house right here in the corner and I'm, basically, not opposed to
Trilogy Subdivision. I don't have any problem with it. I just think that there is some
housecleaning that needs to be done before it gets approved and I'm asking for city
water and city sewer stub outs for my house here, just to make sure the irrigation is
right.
De Weerd: Okay. Is that all?
Janicek: End of story.
De Weerd: Well, thank you. Any questions from Council?
Bird: I have none.
Rountree: I have none.
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you. Any further testimony? Yes, please.
M. Carrico: Margaret Carrico, 4684 Ramblin Court.
De Weerd: Thank you.
M. Carrico: My question is we haven't seen any pictures of the actual entrance there to
the subdivision from our -- from Ramblin Court. Since it's right across the street from
my house I was just curious if they had any, you know, draw-up plans or something that
we could see -- you know, is it just going to be a plan road in and out -- you know, you
just see these really lovely entrances to subdivisions these days and, you know, are we
just going to get a plain stub street, basically, into that or, you know, a nice -- something
-- if I have to look at it, you know--
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De Weerd: We will ask the applicant to answer that for you. Okay. Is there any further
questions or testimony before we ask the applicant to come up and answer some of the
questions that have been asked?
Canning: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes, Anna.
Canning: I would like to comment on why staff has not required the applicant to provide
sewer and water stub to Mr. Janicek. It's always a little difficult to say this in a Public
Hearing, but Mr. Janicek's house, unfortunately, sits within future right of way and it
would be our anticipation that once ITD finishes their Highway 20-26 corridor study, that
this would likely be one of the properties that would have to be bought in full to complete
their road widening project. You can see -- this is the full extent of his property, I
believe. It's just this little corner piece and his house sits about right there. So, in
anticipation that ITD would be purchasing that property at some time in the future, we
did not see the need to extend city water and sewer services there.
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you, Anna. Any questions, Council?
Bird: Not at this time.
De Weerd: Okay. Dave. If you will restate your name for the record.
McKinnon: Dave McKinnon, 736 South Crosstimber. I guess I better start with
Margaret's question first. About the entry. And we are more than happy to work with
the Carricos on the entry there. And what we have tried to do is to provide a generous
landscape buffer on this side, which is the side that we actually have a bunch of control
over. In addition to that, we are happy to plant additional trees and to make this area
more attractive. We don't have a drawing showing a perspective of the entrance right
now. We have an island as well down through the middle of it to create a visual break
in there, so it's not just the standard stub street, so it actually feels like there is an
entrance as you come in and there would be signage as well in this location to say that
this is what's happening here. We got into a difficult situation. I decided to spare you
the long and drawn out story of our attempts with ACHD to get additional access to the
site. We did have a meeting with ACHD -- I think that's what -- I think that's what Mrs.
Brown was talking about how they came and testified. There was testimony at ACHD
and they didn't want us to take access off this public road. It is our only public road
access and as Ron pointed out, we only have the ability to do the first 50 homes off of
the single access until our additional access is provided for our stub streets. We tried
very hard to work with this property when it was under contract with another developer
to try to gain access to Black Cat. We worked with ACHD and they wouldn't let us have
access out onto Black Cat. Your staff has been very -- I guess influential is the right
word in telling us that this is where the road needs to be, so that this property can
redevelop in the future. Our original intent was not to have it at this location. We
originally wanted to come in off of Black Cat with a road coming through and coming
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here. It didn't work. ACHD wouldn't let us do it, that's why we are at with this. It's in
reverse order from the rest of the testimony that was brought up tonight and offer
rebuttal. Did meet with Mr. Janicek tOday out at his property. We talked about how his
property is currently on a well and septic and that the only way we could get water and
sewer to them is to possibly do an easement up through the side of this lot. I talked with
Len Grady, your city engineer, and he felt that would be an appropriate way to do that is
through an easement, if there is a need for that. Mr. Janicek has not asked for
annexation at this time, no services have been offered by the city, but we can make an
easement available to him at this time, if that's one way you would like to handle that.
That's something that Len brought up to me tonight. I already addressed most of Ron's
comments. We understand where Ron's coming from. This is a big change. This was
a five lot subdivision. The non-farm subdivisions are always difficult. If we would have
come in four years ago before Chinden Boulevard was classified as a type four roadway
back in 2002, there may have been a possibility of getting an additional access. I can't
say that that's necessarily a better solution. We are trying to limit the access on those
highways to be able to continue to move traffic. So, what we are trying to do is we will
work on the entrance here to make this a very appropriate entrance for this subdivision.
The full vehicle trips for this entire subdivision we don't anticipate to be using this
subdivision -- this access in the future. We would believe it would go through
Bainbridge, as well as Keego Springs in the future, because not all accesses will go out
to Black Cat at this location. Talked about Mrs. Brown's comment. Angela made some
good comments. We are more than happy to take that buffer on, like I stated earlier,
and we will take over that landscape area and the license agreement. We will do some
additional landscaping and planting and at your wish we are more than happy to either
install the sidewalk or go ahead and continue bonding for it at this time. At this time I
would ask if you have any questions of me and ask for your approval and thank the
staff, neighbors, and yourself for the time you have given us.
De Weerd: Council? Yes, Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: The drawings that we have are confusing in terms what the -- where the lots
are in the subdivision versus where the right of way is. Is it a correct assumption that
this block here is right of way?
McKinnon: That's correct.
Rountree: Or is that part of a lot?
McKinnon: Councilman Rountree, that's correct, that's right of way.
Rountree: Separate right of way lot. In this area here as well?
McKinnon: That's, again, right of way. The road's offset to the south.
Rountree: That's right of way.
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McKinnon: The asphalt section is offset to the south.
Rountree: And what you're saying is that you're willing to improve or expand the
landscaping in this area and maintain it as part of the entryway into this?
McKinnon: Yes, sir. In addition to that, we would be maintaining this part.
Rountree: And, likewise, on this lot of right of way, easy to say, but has there been any
discussion with ACHD on the license agreement to do the expanded work in those
areas?
McKinnon: I haven't had any discussion until it was brought up to us tonight before the
meeting. We are happy to do it and to maintain it. We have talked about taking over
this landscaping and this right of way. It was brought up at the ACHD hearing. It's one
of those things that we agreed that that's something that we would be willing to take
over, maintenance of the right of way. We just -- you know, we found out that this is all
being serviced off of an individual well and we -- if we have to cut that for doing the
additional improvements out here -- it's actually running through a culvert through here
underneath the road and that serves that. So, if we cut it up here we'd have to maintain
it down here as well. I guess Gary's here tonight in the audience, if you have -- would
you have a problem with the additional landscaping? If I can address --
Rountree: We will ask him that.
McKinnon: Okay.
De Weerd: Yeah. Did that answer your question as far as the applicant is concerned,
Mr. Rountree?
Rountree: Yes.
De Weerd: Okay. Any other questions? Mr. Wardle.
Wardle: Madam Anna, could you go to the elevations of the attached units? The first
comment, Dave. On my time on the Council I haven't seen an attached unit that I have
been found of. However, I like what you're doing here. My question is -- is how does
the ownership work on that? Is it a common ownership? What -- I mean tell me how
that -- I guess that works.
McKinnon: It's similar to a townhome type ownership. You do have some shared roof
lines and so it's handled in an agreement. It's a zero lot line building. There are party
walls that run up through. So, it's, essentially, a townhouse and it would have the same
townhouse agreements.
De Weerd: Any other questions?
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Rountree: Madam Mayor, I have a question for Gary, not Dave.
De Weerd: Okay. We will ask Gary to come up and let you come back for comment
Canning: Madam Mayor, while Gary is making his way up there, it sounded from
previous testimony as if your recommendations are incorrect as to what the summary of
the Public Hearing was with regard to comments from other folks. Right now it says no
one testified. When you make a motion if you could just direct staff to correct the
findings with regard to written testimony I would appreciate that. That didn't make
sense, I -- all right. We'll let Gary talk and, then, I'll try to explain it again.
De Weerd: Okay.
Inselman: Madam Mayor, Gary Inselman, representing ACHD, 3775 North Adams,
Garden City.
De Weerd: Thank you.
Rountree: Madam Mayor, just to repeat my question, what's the likelihood of ACHD
entering into a license agreement for the proposed landscaping or possibility of
landscaping at the entry here?
Inselman: Councilman Rountree, we would entertain a license agreement for
landscaping within the right of way. The exact nature of the landscaping we'd have to
review in relation to the future curb, gutter, and sidewalk lines. We certainly don't want
extensive landscaping that will be ripped out a few years later when that vacant parcel
redevelops. That's a false expectation for the neighbors.
Rountree: Thank you.
De Weerd: Okay. Dave? So, as I understand it, then, you're open to doing the
improvements along that road and putting in a more formal entry?
McKinnon: That's correct.
De Weerd: Okay.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: And you also quoted that you would give an easement to Mr. Janicek's property?
McKinnon: We can create an easement for that.
De Weerd: Okay. Any other questions from Council?
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Bird: I have none.
Rountree: I have none.
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you.
McKinnon: Thank you.
De Weerd: Okay. Council?
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Before we close the Public Hearing, let's see if we can get that mud clear on what
Anna was--
Canning: Yeah. I can clear the mud entirely. Just rewind. Never mind. Everything is
okay.
Bird: Okay. With that, Mr. President, I'd move we close the public hearings on AZ 06-
032 and PP 06-032.
Rountree: Second.
Wardle: It's been moved and seconded to close the public hearings on Items 15 and
16. All in favor?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Bird: Mr. President?
Wardle: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move that we approve AZ 06-032, for annexation and zoning of RUT to R-8
zone, Trilogy Subdivision, and to incorporate all staff, applicant, and public testimony
and to change the Findings as noted.
Borton: Second.
Bird: Or do we don't have Findings.
Wardle: I believe the -- Anna, the Findings were to -- or the restatement of the facts
from the hearing was to include testimony written and oral testimony of Planning and
Zoning Commission; is that correct?
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Canning: They are correct as they are written. I had thought that they were incorrect,
but the applicant cleared the confusion for me, so we are -- they are okay --
Bird: I'll remove that last statement, then.
Wardle: Second agrees?
Borton: Second agrees.
Canning: Mr. President, if I could ask the maker of the motion to clarify what provision
he wants in the DA, if any.
Bird: I beg your pardon?
Canning: What provisions he might want in the -- I think that the DA provisions talked
about today included landscaping to the east of the Sweitzer, landscaping --
Bird: That was all -- that was all included in public testimony and all was agreed to by
the applicant. Yes.
Canning: But I'm a little unclear as to what is desired on the west side of Sweitzer,
because ACHD is not in favor of additional landscaping. So, I need some direction from
Council on that and the Janicek parcel, if possible.
Bird: The Janicek parcel is they have agreed to come up with an easement for -- as I
understand was the testimony. And on the west side of Sweitzer -- I don't -- if they're
not -- if ACHD don't want it, I mean that's fine with me. I hope it's fine with the second. I
mean I don't --
Wardle: Just to clarify it, we had testimony from ACHD that they would consider a
license agreement if the location of curb, gutter and sidewalk and additional landscaping
met their requirement.
Bird: But that was just on Ramblin Court, not on Sweitzer. Not the one up on the west
side.
Canning: I misspoke. I mean Ramblin. I'm sorry.
Bird: Oh, you meant Ramblin?
Canning: Yes, sir. Sorry.
Bird: Okay. Well, then, ACHD, yeah, they agreed to go to the licensing. Let's do her. I
thought you said the west side of Sweitzer.
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Canning: I did. I was wrong.
Wardle: Second agrees?
Borton: Second agrees.
Wardle: Second agrees. All right. Anna, are we clear?
Canning: Yes. But just to recap, we are doing easements to Janicek on the east side
of Ramblin Court. We are doing additional landscaping and a more formal entry. And
on the west side of Ramblin Court it is whatever the license agreement is with ACHD.
Bird: Yes. That's the maker of the motion's intent.
Canning: Okay. Thank you, sir.
Wardle: Mr. Clerk, will you, please, call roll.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Wardle, yea; Borton, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Wardle: Item 16?
Bird: Mr. President?
Wardle: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move we approve PP 06-032, preliminary plat for 148 single family lots and 14
common, for Trilogy Subdivision and to include all staff, applicant, and public testimony.
Rountree: Second.
Wardle: It's been moved and seconded to approve Item 16. Mr. Clerk, will you, please,
call roll.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Wardle, yea; Borton, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 17:
Public Hearing: VAR 06.023 Request for a Variance to UDC 11-2A-5 to
allow the front setback to be reduced to ten feet from the back of sidewalk
for porches and side loaded garages for all phases of Crossfield
Subdivision by Heron River Development, LLC - 955 West Ustick Road:
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De Weerd: Okay. Item 17 is a Public Hearing on VAR 06-023. Open the Public
Hearing with staff comments.
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, this is a variance for the Crossfield
Project. It's located south of Ustick, west of Venable Lane. The applicant is requesting
a variance of the streetside building setback from 15 feet to living area and 20 feet to
the garage, measured from the back of sidewalk. That's our current code in the R-8
zoning. And they are asking that the measurement be reduced to ten feet from the back
of sidewalk, but only for porches and side-loaded garages. So, a unit that had a
standard pull up garage would still have the full 20 feet, so that the car wouldn't be
hanging over the sidewalk. Staff has recommended approval for this variance for,
basically, three different reasons. One is when this Crossfield Subdivision originally
went through, setbacks were measured from the property line. Now, this subdivision at
the time, though, showed attached sidewalks. So, you have approved similar variances
where they showed a detached sidewalk, we changed the code on them and we felt it
was appropriate to grant the variance, because the code changed, not their plan. In this
instance the plan actually changed. They went from attached sidewalks to swale with
detached sidewalks. So, we do have a -- they were forced to go to the swale
methodology, because of high ground water in the area. So, there is an environmental
factor driving this and that was the high ground water. Thirdly, this -- what ends in a
designated neighborhood center, but this project was approved I think a few months
before we actually came up with the TN-R district. So, they didn't have that as an option
available to them. The development that they had proposed is very consistent with the
TN-R district and the setbacks they have proposed would have been consistent with the
TN-R district, the ten foot setback to sidewalk for -- for properties that aren't taking direct
garage access, so the side-loaded and the alley-loaded, basically. So, for those three
reasons staff is recommending approval. We were able to make the Findings and make
that recommendation to Council. We don't have elevations for you tonight. With regard
to written testimony, we received an e-mail from Chris Brewer, who is the representative
for the homeowners association south of here, stating that he chose not to submit
written testimony, so you tell me if that's written testimony or not. We couldn't figure
that one out, so -- we thought we would let you know about it in case it was. So, to our
knowledge there are no outstanding issues before Council.
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you. Any comments from Lieutenant Lavey? No? Okay.
Thank you. Council, any questions?
Bird: I have none.
De Weerd: Okay. Is the applicant here?
Atalla: Joe Atalla. 6223 North Discovery Way. Madam Mayor, Members of the
Council, we have reviewed the staff report and we agree with everything that they have
recommended. In short, we are requesting this variance, because we do feel it will be
of benefit to the community of Crossfield and would encourage the builders in the
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subdivision to provide more porches and bring the architecture in front of the garage
more than they would typically. So, if you guys have any questions for me.
De Weerd: Okay. Council, any questions?
Bird: I have none.
De Weerd: Okay. I don't see any. Thank you. This is a Public Hearing. Any public
testimony on this application? Okay.
Wardle: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Wardle.
Wardle: Seeing no further public testimony, I move we close the Public Hearing on Item
17.
Borton: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to close the Public Hearing on Item 17. All
those in favor say aye. All ayes. Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
De Weerd: Okay. Is there any discussion? Mr. Wardle?
Wardle: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes.
Wardle: I move we approve Item 17, VAR 06-023.
Borton: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. We have a motion and a second to approve Item 17. If there is no
discussion, roll call attendance, Mr. Berg.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Wardle, yea; Borton, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 18:
Public Hearing: VAC 06.013 Request for a Vacation of the public utility,
drainage & irrigation easement common to Lots 26 & 27, Block 1 of
Lochsa Falls Subdivision No.6 by Wayne Barber - 1660 West Glad
Creek Street and 3906 North Cougar Flat Avenue:
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De Weerd: Okay. Item 18 is Public Hearing VAC 06-013. I will open this Public
Hearing with staff comments.
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, this project is in Lochsa Falls. It's a
vacation request for Lots 26 and 27 in Block 1. And here are the two lots. They have
recently gone through a lot line adjustment. As you can see in the darker line, the
house was constructed in the wrong place, so they have done the required lot line
adjustment. It's just that they are -- the house does encroach in the platted easements
and so, therefore, it needs to -- the easement needs to be vacated, but the lot line
adjustment does provide the new easement. To our knowledge there are no
outstanding issues before Council.
De Weerd: Thank you. Is the applicant here? Okay.
Canning: Apparently not.
De Weerd: Anna, have you heard any feedback on your comments or
recommendation?
Canning: No. We have all the required relinquishments, so there is no conditions of
approval associated with this project.
De Weerd: Okay. Council?
Bird: Madam Mayor, is this a Public Hearing?
De Weerd: It is a Public Hearing and 1--
Bird: Does anybody want to testify? I think you ought to --
De Weerd: Oh, I'm sorry. I just asked for the applicant.
Moulton: Madam Mayor, Councilmen, my name is Brad Moulton and I own property at
5940 North Linder Road and I just have one question on this easement vacation. Is this
going to affect any of the irrigation flow -- this is just, basically, a lot line move, it's not
affecting anything that's in the ground right now, not changing anything there, so my
irrigation water isn't going to be flooding out on Linder Road, because somebody's dug
up the ditch on their side?
De Weerd: No. And if that were to happen they would have to fix it.
Moulton: Thank you very much.
De Weerd: Thank you. Okay. Any further testimony on this application? Seeing none
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Wardle: Madam Mayor.
De Weerd: Mr. Wardle.
Wardle: Hearing no further testimony, I move we close the Public Hearing on Item 18.
Borton: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. We have a motion and second to close Item 18. All those in favor
eye. All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
De Weerd: Item -- yes, Mr. Wardle.
Wardle: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes.
Wardle: I move we approve Item 18, VAC 06-013.
Borton: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. I have a motion and a second to approve Item 18. If there is no
discussion, Mr. Berg, will you call roll.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Wardle, yea; Borton, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 19:
Ordinance No. 06.1272 : AZ 05.056 Request for Annexation
and Zoning of 6.08 acres from RUT to TN-R and 4.07 acres from RUT to
C-C zone for Harks Canyon Creek Subdivision by JBS Enterprises, LLC
-1845 West Franklin Road:
Item 20:
Ordinance No. 06.1273 : RZ 06.006 Request for a Rezone of
6.82 acres from R-8 to R-15 zones for Cedar Sprinas Townhomes by
John Flaherty Construction - south of West McMillan and west of North
Meridian Road:
De Weerd: Thank you. Item 19, Ordinance No. 06-1272 and, Item 20, 06-1273. Mr.
Berg, will you, please, read these two ordinances by title only.
Berg: Thank you, Madam Mayor, Members of the Council. Ordinance 06-1272, an
ordinance for annexation of property located in the west one half of the northeast one
quarter of the northeast one quarter of Section 14, Township 3 North, Range 1 West,
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Boise Meridian, Ada County, Idaho, as described in Attachment A and annexing certain
lands and territories situated in Ada County, Idaho, and adjacent and contiguous to the
corporate limits of the City of Meridian, as requested by the City of Meridian,
establishing and determining the land use classification of said lands from RUT to C-C
and to TN-R, in the Meridian City Code, providing that copies of this ordinance shall be
filed with the Ada County Assessor, the Ada County recorder, and the Idaho State Tax
Commission, as required by law, and providing for a summary of the ordinance and
providing for a waiver of the reading of the rules and providing an effective date.
Berg: Ordinance 06-1273, an ordinance finding that John Flaherty Construction, the
owner of certain lands -- excuse me -- certain real property, has made a written request
for rezone of the zoning classification for real property being situated in a portion of the
west one half of the northeast quarter of Section 36, Township 4 North, Range 1 West,
Meridian, Ada County, Idaho, as described in Attachment A of this ordinance and
rezoning certain lands and territories situated in Ada County, Idaho, and within the
corporate limits of the City of Meridian and rezoning the land use zoning classification of
said lands from R-8 to R-15 in the Meridian City Code, providing that copies of this
ordinance shall be filed with the Ada County assessor, the Boise, the Ada County
recorder, the Idaho State Tax Commission, as required by law and providing for a
summary of the ordinance and providing for a waiver of the reading of the rules and
providing an effective date.
De Weerd: Thank you, Mr. Berg. You have heard these two ordinances read by title
only. Is there anyone who would like to hear them read in their entirety? Seeing none -
Wardle: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Wardle.
Wardle: I move we approve Items 19 and 20 with suspension of rules.
Bird: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve Items 19 and 20. If there is no
discussion, Mr. Berg.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Wardle, yea; Borton, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
De Weerd: Thank you. Lieutenant Lavey, I know you have been highly entertained
over there this evening, but I wondered if you could give Council an update on what
happened earlier this morning out at Paramount Subdivision. You would need to speak
into the microphone.
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Lavey: Are you talking about the construction accident that we had earlier?
De Weerd: Yes. Please.
Lavey: This morning Ada County received a 911 call of an incident that happened on a
construction site. Apparently there were 15 trusses that were in place on a -- I believe it
was a commercial building and there was a crane that was still operating there and a
gust of wind came up and knocked one truss over and it became a domino effect and it
trapped -- it knocked five guys off the building and it trapped five gentlemen underneath
the trusses onto the ground and police, fire, and EMS had to, essentially, rescue them,
they started a triage, and we ended up transporting five individuals with the use of three
ambulances. No life-threatening injuries. There is going to be some broken bones and
it is unknown if there is any internal-type injuries. There was one gentleman that was
serious, but not life threatening. And a couple others that were able to walk on their
own. It's currently being looked at by OSHA. They were on scene when we were there.
De Weerd: Well, thank you. We thank your officers and the firefighters that helped
them out. Thank you. Okay.
Item 21:
Executive Session per Idaho State Code 67.2345(1)(c) - (to conduct
deliberations concerning labor negotiations or to acquire an interest in real
property, which is not owned by a public agency) and Idaho State Code
67.2345(1)(f) - (to consider and advise its legal representatives in
pending litigation):
De Weerd: Council, Item 21, is an Executive Session per Idaho State Code 67-
2345(1 )(c). Do I have a motion?
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move we go into Executive Session as per Idaho State Code 67-2345 (1 )(c) and
(1 )(f).
Rountree: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second. Mr. Berg, will you, please, call roll.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Wardle, yea; Borton, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
EXECUTIVE SESSION:
De Weerd: I will entertain a motion to come out of Executive Session.
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Bird: So moved.
Rountree: Second.
De Weerd: A motion and a second. All those in favor say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
De Weerd: Motion to adjourn?
Bird: So moved.
Rountree: Second.
De Weerd: All those in favor.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 10:12 P.M.
(TAPE ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS)
APPROVED:
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MAYOR