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MERIDIAN PLANNING & ZONING SEPT 30, 1993
The special meeting of the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission
was called to order by Chairman Jim Johnson:
Members Present: Charlie Rountree, Jim Johnson, Tim Hepper, Jim
Shearer:
Others Present: Sheri Baker, John Baker, Carmen Mayes, Wayne Crookston,
Will Berg:
MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING HELD SEPTEMBER 14, 1993:
The Motion was made by Rountree and seconded by Shearer to approve
the minutes of the September 14, 1993 as written.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSION OF LAW FOR AMENDMENT TO THE MERIDIAN
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN:
Johnson: To begin that I will go through what I have ascertained to
be either a questioned or a correction. If you have any additions,
you can add those afterwards. Most of these are typos.
Page 1, after findings of fact item #1,third sentence,public- there
should be something after public I would think,sentence
doesn't read right. It says,"That notice of public hearing on the
Comprehensive Plan amendment was published for two consecutive weeks
prior to each public" \[hearing\], how about hearing, okay
so we insert hearing there. Next correction is page 3,I'll skip that,
I was just questioning the word "solid", because I didn't know what
it meant. Is that something like a full week?
Rountree: That's on page 2, item 4
Johnson: Okay, item 3, I have a confusing sentence under "e" in
parentheses, item 5. it says,its a continuation, in mid-sentence,
"and that in subdivision approval the subdivision ordinance may provide
ordinance." That confused me.
Crookston: I don't have a copy.
Johnson: Get one for Wayne please. Is that the only one you have?
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Rountree: I would say that's probably a starter and if strike the
two, ordinance provide and provide for mitigation and effects of
subdivision development etc...
Johnson: Let's give Wayne a chance to look at it. He prepared it.
Rountree: It's one of those things that happens on Wordprocessors a
lot.
Johnson: Does that make sense. Charlie's correction?
Crookston: What was that again Charlie?
Rountree: Strike "ordinance provide, the second one and then instead
the subdivision ordinance may provide for mitigation, rather instead
of the ordinance the second time.
Johnson: It was strike the provide ordinance. Okay and leave it as
the ordinance may provide mitigation etc... Okay, next item page 5,
I have a reference to "Black Road",I think that is BlackCat Road. That
is down at the bottom, number 12. Next page is seven. Oh, this is
kind of picky,but under 18, if it is joint, it certainly would be used
jointly. Do we need the repetition or the repeat of the word joint
or jointly? Or can we just say share equipment that is owned jointly?
That's pretty picky. It's up to you guys. I'd say throw out the
first joint. Should we throw out the first joint?
Rountree: I'll second that.
Johnson: Okay, next page 8, we have a couple things on this page.
I'm not all together sure on this, but under B on the top of the page
I think that is borrow as in "borrow pit",b-o-r-r-o-w should be. Under
I, Our Planning & Zoning Commissioner, his name is Jim Shearer not
June Shearer.
Rountree: Put in there he too if we're going to go that far.
Johnson: And then right below that, item J after better I think that
should be better than , than better that. Page nine,this is rather
picky. I had two things here, one was C to be consistent shouldn't
that second animal be animals, with an s? And under the comments made
by Vern Alleman, would that be the pertinent place to say that is already
addressed by that old code or not?
There is something in the code regarding the right to farm.
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Crookston: There is. If you want to put in you can.
Johnson: Well, I think it might clarify why we're ignoring it. Page
ten, and this is a question. Is it Don Bryan, or Don Bryant?
Crookston: Bryan, I believe
Johnson: Cause I don't, I've never seen it the way it is spelled here.
Anyway that is no big deal, page eleven, something got screwed together
here under S. Looks like we should have started a new paragraph starting
with "That". Because those comments are not pertinent to Mike Donahue
who testified under S.
Crookston: That's correct.
Johnson: There should be a paragraph starting with that
Crookston: Should be T
Johnson: We can make that T, sure that would do it. Okay that's page
eleven, i got page twelve, there is a she in there that should be a
he, Jim Baker, under "e". Okay, page thirteen, I had a question.
Under J, Ada County Highway District submitted comment regarding the
designation of four streets as being collector streets, and request
that those streets be included on the Functional Street Classification
Map; they further commented as to a desire for a "calming" of traffic.
The way I understood that, and I don't have it with me, wasn't Ada
County's comment just to reword the statement on "calming"?
Crookston: Yes.
Johnson: They really wanted to change the wording, to more match their
wording, that's the way I read it, isn't that basically it?
Rountree: That's how I understood it.
Johnson: So in other words, what I saying is it's already there, but
they wanted the wording changed. They didn't like the way we worded
it, which I didn't have a problem with. So can we alter that?
Rountree: We can.
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Johnson: Okay, let's alter that. Page nineteen, I had a question
on seventeen, It says, in the last sentence,"It makes good planning
sense to include the land that abuts Eagle Road into Meridian's Area
of Impact. Should that be more specifically stated since there's road
that abuts Eagle Road all the way from the desert north of Eagle.
Or are we talking, I know what the idea is, but is worded properly?
Shearer: It could be more definitive.
Johnson: Should we say within the Area of Impact, or what was our
thought there?
Shearer: The thought is Chinden to Columbia.
Johnson: I think that just leaves it open, I think we ought to be
a little more specific.
Crookston: Just say it, the end of the sentence say from Chinden Blvd
to Columbia Road.
Johnson: Yeah, from Chinden Blvd to South Columbia Road. That's all
I've got. Anybody else have any corrections at this point in that
area, before we get into any discussion? These are just editorial,
cleaning it up more or less.
Rountree: Page eight, and ten. Letter G on eight and Letter Q on
ten. I don't know the correct spelling of Bermensolo, but we have
two there. Which ever one is right.
Crookston: I think it's B-e.
Rountree: I think it is too.
Shearer: I'm sure it is.
Johnson: Anybody else have any?
Rountree: I have a clarification on page eight under letter B. from
Mrs.Mayes, she wasn't necessarily objecting to the incorporation of
the Western Ada Recreation District within the
city, she was questioning the idea that the city was going to have
that happen, when in fact it would take a vote of the public to disband
the District. I think that is clearly the plan at this point.
Johnson: Do you recommend any changes in B on page eight?
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Rountree: Well, it does need some change in some of the wording on
page seventeen. About objection of the plan, I really don't think that's
necessary at that point. First paragraph on page seventeen talks about
the voiced objections to the plan proposed to merger.
Johnson: Okay. I don't recall the exact testimony, but I do recall
I believe her primary concern was that those areas outside the city
limits were more or less being ignored. Did you read it that way?
Rountree: Well, I just spoke to her before, and it had her concerned.
Johnson: I realize that was not a public hearing.
Rountree: I know, I'm just trying clarify what I thought she said,
and I think we were on the same wavelength as opposed to what is being
said here.
Johnson: Would you give us some suggestions or rewording on that then,
Charlie? To clarify. Did you want to delete something on seventeen
is that what you're saying?
Rountree: I would recommend just deleting the paragraph on page
seventeen.
Johnson: The first full paragraph starting with "There was a
comment..."
Rountree: Or the first half of the first long sentence of that
paragraph, and start the sentence,"It is concluded that the physical
facilities.." And just have that in there.
Johnson: Alright, well this is not earth shattering.
Rountree: No, it's not a big deal.
Johnson: Okay, very good we'll take that out of there. Are you going
to leave eight the way it is?
Rountree: I'll just leave it that way.
Johnson: Just leave it that way, okay.
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Crookston: Leave it the way it is?
Rountree: Eight?
Crookston: No, on seventeen.
Johnson: On seventeen we're going to take it out.
Crookston: Okay
Johnson: We'll delete everything in that paragraph at the start, and
begin the paragraph with "It" capitalized. Anybody else have any
changes, or do you have any more Charlie?
Rountree: No
Johnson: Suggestions, Tim, James?
Hepper: No
Shearer: No
Johnson: Any you picked up on there Wayne?
Crookston: No
Johnson: Will?
Crookston: No, there are some things I didn't pick up on though, but
they been have corrected.
Johnson: Oh, well it's hard to proofread your own stuff.
It's very difficult.
Johnson: Okay, we're ready for the discussion regarding the
Comprehensive Plan we have before us. Findings of fact on the
Comprehensive plan is what I'm referring to.
Rountree: There is no discussion. I'll make a motion Mr. Chairman
that the Meridian Planning & Zoning commission hereby adopts and
approves these Findings and Facts and Conclusions.
Shearer: I second it.
Johnson: It has been moved and seconded that the Planning & Zoning
Commission hereby adopt and approve the findings of Fact and Conclusion
of Law as presented this evening, all in favor?
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Roll Call Vote: Alidjani - Absent, Hepper - yea, Rountree - yea, Shearer
- yea,
Motion Carried: All yea
Johnson: Is this the recommendation we wish to pass on to the City
Council at this point.
Rountree: I move that the Meridian Planning & Zoning commission hereby
recommend this to the City Council that the Planning & Zoning commission
proposed amendments to the Meridian Comprehensive Plan be approved
and adopted.
Shearer: Seconded
Johnson: It has been moved and seconded that the Meridian Planning
& Zoning commission recommend to the City Council that the Comprehensive
Plan be approved and adopted, all in favor?
Motion Carried: All yea
Johnson: Okay, anything else anybody wants to bring up this evening
before we adjourn?
Hepper: Mr. Chairman I move that we adjourn.
Shearer: I second it
Motion Carried: All Yea
Johnson: Thank you for coming down, on an off night.
(TAPE OF FILE OF THESE PROCEDDINGS)
APPROVED:
JIM JOHNSON,CHAIRMAN
ATTEST:
WILLIAM G. BERG,JR
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