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Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
October 17, 2002
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MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Item 8.
Public Hearing: PFP 02-003 Request for Preliminary/Final Plat approval
of 1 building lots on 3.8491 acres in a C-C zone for Goldstone Center
Condos by Sundance Company - southeast corner of South Eagle Road
and East Overland Road.
Borup: Item Number 8, Public Hearing PFP 02-003, request Preliminary/Final Plat
approval of one building lot on 3.8 acres in a C-C zone for Goldstone Center Condos by
Sundance Company, southwest corner of South Eagle Road and East Overland Road.
Open this Public Hearing and start with the staff report.
McKinnon: Thanks, Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission. Just forwarded
passed all of my slides I wanted to show you. This is an existing building in the
Silverstone development. It's one of the first buildings -- multi-tenant building. When
the project was originally approved, it was a large shell building under one ownership
and the applicant has requested that they be allowed to condominiumize the property
that would be subdividing the area within the building to be able to be purchased by
other people. There is no change in the exterior of the building. There is no change to
the interior of the building. This is essentially dividing up the interior of the building's
airspace in order to sell to different people. Staff has no objections to this. We have
elicited some note changes and revisions that need to take place at this time, but other
than that. We have no objections to the request by the applicant and if they can meet
the conditions of approval, we are very much in support of the application as presented
to you tonight.
Borup: Okay. Thank you. Would the applicant like to come forward?
Zaremba: Let me just ask on the mechanical process. Does that mean that things like
hallways and bathrooms and stuff become common area maintained by an association?
I see a nod yes on that.
Borup: Okay. Staff has recommended approval. Do you have any additional
comments?
Tealey: It's not a day care center. Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission, my
name is Pat Tealey, office address is 2501 Bogus Basin Road, Boise. I'm here
representing the applicant Sundance Company. This is something new for you guys
and the City of Meridian. This is the first time a condominium project the City of
Meridian has and --
Borup: Commercial.
Tealey: Commercial and as I understand, even residential. There have been some
other townhouse-type applications that you have dealt with. This is a little bit different,
because we aren't -- you know, we aren't dealing with your standard Planning and
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Zoning issues, dedication of new roads and right of ways and landscaping, utilities.
This is an existing building and a way to subdivide and try to provide a different form of
ownership to people who choose to be in this building. If there is any questions -- we
have read the staff report and agree with their --
Borup: Any questions of Mr. Tealey?
Centers: Yes. I had a question or -- how many potential owners do you anticipate?
Tealey: That is just basically determined by how many square feet -- square foot --
square feet each owner would want. In other words, we could divide that thing up
according to -- without ownership in as many spaces as we wanted, according to
building codes, you know. In other words, if there wasn't an ownership involved in it. All
we are doing is providing the ownership of spaces that would normally be occupied by
people either leasing or renting.
Centers: So you don't anticipate parking demands or requirements will change?
Tealey: The parking demands and requirements are based on the square footage of
the overall building itself and this is an existing building that has gone through the
process here in Meridian and has adequate number of parking.
Centers: I'm aware of that -- and I'm aware of that and that's why I asked how many
owners are you expecting, because that was my concern with the parking and, you
know, I guess staff has addressed that and I'm familiar with condominiumizing projects.
Tealey: The parking demand for a condominium wouldn't be any different than a
parking demand for the building if it were leased out to various people. It wouldn't be
any difference in the demand for parking.
Centers: Well, I beg to differ with you, because if you have all of those units that you
sell and you have two or three or four people working in each unit, do you think that was
the original intent of that building to begin with?
Tealey: It was built as multi -- it was built as a multi-tenant building.
Centers: Yes.
Tealey: And certainly, we can't get any more people in it, because it's going to be a
condominium versus whether it was rented or leased space. I'm sure staff could --
McKinnon: Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission, when the project was built, it
was built as a shell building and the types of uses were discussed at that time and the
parking was dimensioned based on it all going off as if it was the highest use for that for
parking, which was based on one for 400 gross square feet.
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Centers: One for 400?
McKinnon: One for 400 and, if I remember correctly, they have gone above and beyond
the minimum requirements. I believe that they have probably gone to closer to one to
250, maybe even possibly higher than that, to meet market requirements. They a re
over-parked, according to our standards.
Centers: Good.
Borup: The plan does show one to 250.
Tealey: Yes. That's a standard that they like to use, or even better than that, one to
200 -- they like to get at least one to 250, just to make it leasable.
Centers: You just might keep that in mind when you market it, because I have seen that
become a problem in the past on other projects I'm familiar with.
Borup: Well, according to the plan, it says one to 250 would be 155 stalls. They have
128 -- 181 on site.
Centers: Good. Thank you.
Tealey: Thank you.
Zaremba: Let me ask one other question. In the -- I'm not sure where -- either in the
original annexation process or in the original platting process, ACHD would have added
a requirement to the current property owner to encourage traffic mitigation, car pooling
of the businesses that are there. Are you going to add any element in your CC&Rs for
the condo owners that would -- to pass that message along? I know the City of
Meridian can't actually enforce that, but I sure would like to know that the people are
made aware that there has been a requirement for traffic mitigation.
Tealey: I have got the review by the Ada County Highway District here and they haven't
mentioned anything about traffic mitigation.
Zaremba: It was in the original for this whole subdivision, as I recall.
Tealey: Yes and I'm sure that the owner has addressed this as a whole in the
subdivision. I don't know that we can put anything on the plat or any type of warning
note on the plat that, hey, you have to car pool. I mean that doesn't belong on a plat.
But I'm sure if there is a requirement from the city that this mitigation needs to notify the
people that there have taken care of. It is a very professional development and one that
Meridian need be proud of and should be proud of and they don't want to do anything to
jeopardize that.
Zaremba: Thank you. I think staff has a comment.
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McKinnon: Just to comment on what your questions was, Commissioner Zaremba. On
the overall site plan, the applicant and the city have worked together to make
arrangements for alternative transportation, pick-up and drop-off type locations and so
on the overall plan f or this project, which is multiple buildings on multiple lots, there
have been accommodations made for the mitigation of parking.
Zaremba: Thank you.
Borup: Do we have anyone else to testify on this? Commissioners?
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman?
Borup: Commissioner Zaremba.
Zaremba: I move the hearing be closed.
Centers: Second.
Borup: Motion and second to close the hearing. All in favor?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman?
Borup: Commissioner Zaremba.
Zaremba: I move we forward to the City Council recommending approval of PFP 02-
003, request for Preliminary/Final Plat approval of one building lot on 3.8491 acres in a
C-C zone for Goldstone Center Condos by Sundance Company, southeast corner of
South Eagle Road and East Overland Road, to include all staff comments.
Mathes: Second.
Borup: Motion and second. All in favor? Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 9.
Public Hearing: PFP 02-004 Request for Preliminary/Final Plat approval
of 3 building lots on 5.5 acres in a CoG zone for Norco Subdivision by
Pinnacle Engineers, Inc. - 2150 East Fairview:
Borup: Item Number 9 is Public Hearing PFP 02-004, request for Preliminary and Final
Plat approval of three building lots on 5.5 acres in CoG zone for Norco Subdivision by
Pinnacle Engineers, at 2150 East Fairview. I'd like to open this Public Hearing and start
with the staff report.