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Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
October 17, 2002
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McKinnon: Just to comment on what your questions was, Commissioner Zaremba. On
the overall site plan, the applicant and the city have worked together to make
arrangements for alternative transportation, pick-up and drop-off type locations and so
on the overall plan for this project, which is multiple buildings on multiple lots, there
have been accommodations made for the mitigation of parking.
Zaremba: Thank you.
Borup: Do we have anyone else to testify on this? Commissioners?
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman?
Borup: Commissioner Zaremba.
Zaremba: I move the hearing be closed.
Centers: Second.
Borup: Motion and second to close the hearing. All in favor?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman?
Borup: Commissioner Zaremba.
Zaremba: I move we forward to the City Council recommending approval of PFP 02-
003, request for Preliminary/Final Plat approval of one building lot on 3.8491 acres in a
C-C zone for Goldstone Center Condos by Sundance Company, southeast corner of
South Eagle Road and East Overland Road, to include all staff comments.
Mathes: Second.
Borup: Motion and second. All in favor? Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 9.
Public Hearing: PFP 02-004 Request for Preliminary/Final Plat approval
of 3 building lots on 5.5 acres in a C-G zone for Norco Subdivision by
Pinnacle Engineers, Inc. -2150 East Fairview:
Borup: Item Number 9 is Public Hearing PFP 02-004, request for Preliminary and Final
Plat approval of three building lots on 5.5 acres in C-G zone for Norco Subdivision by
Pinnacle Engineers, at 2150 East Fairview. I'd like to open this Public Hearing and start
with the staff report.
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McKinnon: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission. This is another
non-day-care one, so it should go fairly smoothly tonight. This is a fairly simple
application. It's a Preliminary/Final Plat for a parcel of ground that already has multiple
developments on this. As you will notice on the overhead in front of you, the highlighted
area is the area that we are talking about tonight and it currently houses the Norco
building, with the medical retail-wholesale warehouse, and it also has a small strip mall
type development and very recently you and the City Council approved a Sonic Drive-in
at this location. The applicant, when he originally received approval for this
development, had it all in one lot. They are now requesting that it be placed on three
separate lots. The arrangement of the Preliminary/Final Plat places all the required
parking for each one of the uses on each lot. You have some funky shaped lots that
don't follow standard dimensions, squares, and rectangles, but that was to
accommodate all of the parking for each individual lot to be located on its own lot, so
th.ere would not have to be any people saying that their parking should be in front of the
building. Other than that, that's the major, significant note that I would point out to you.
It's a fairly simply simple application. Staff definitely supports it. The development
improvements were already in, with the outstanding Sonic improvements to be installed
sO.on. Bruce may have one comment concerning the site specific comments, if you
could turn to page two. Item number three, I'll let Bruce address that concerning the
statement to graphically depict all existing easements lying through the boundaries of
the subdivision. He can offer some clarification on that.
Freckleton: Thanks, Dave. Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission, this note - I
wanted to just propose a change to that note. When I wrote that I didn't realize that the
water main easement to the City of Meridian is a blanket easement across the entire
subdivision and to graphically depict the blanket easement would be impossible. What I
have asked the applicant to do is just note it in the plat notes, the existence ofthe City
of Meridian water main easement and -- but all other easements of record should be
shown on the plat, per State Code. Oh. Dave just noted that it is already on the plat, so
we are covered.
Zaremba: That's a delete?
Freckleton: Yes. Delete the note.
Zaremba: Okay.
Freckleton: Thank you.
Zaremba: I have one question for staff. My recollection is as we were recommending
Sonic drive-in for approval, one of the conditions, since this was all one property, is that
there be some additional screening put around the corner of the existing Norco building
to protect these property owners from Sonic Drive-in noise and headlights. If these are
going to be two separate properties, is that enforceable? It was real easy when it was
one property.
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McKinnon: I believe it's still enforceable as a requirement of the application when it
came before you of things to change afterwards to - you have to deal with it and I have
had subsequent follow-up conversations with the owner of Sonic and he's more than
happy to place them there.
Zaremba: But it's no longer on the same property.
McKinnon: It was a requirement when it came before us when it was one property and
he still will be held to that.
Zaremba: Okay. That was my only question.
Borup: Do we have any other comments, questions? Oh, would the applicant like to
come forward. I was ready for a motion.
Centers: We like the applicants to be here. We get offended when they are not.
Zaremba: Even if all you say is boo, you know.
Boyle: Boo.
Zaremba: I move the Public Hearing be closed. Scrap that.
Boyle: At least let me get on record here. Clint Boyle with Pinnacle Engineers, 12552
West Executive Drive in Boise, Idaho. Now that I'm on the record and my company at
least knows that I showed up for the meeting, I agree with all of the staff comments
tonight. It is a fairly straightforward item and, again, as far as the three lots, the actual
existing owner, Jim Kessler, will retain ownership of what would be the Norco building
lot and the retail center, just since we were going through the process, he figured that
he'd split it into three lots. Then at some point in the future if he wanted to sell off the
retail center he wouldn't have to go back and re-plat. Anyway, outside of that, staff
answered it and -- a little lonely in here, but, anyway, if there is any questions I will
answer them and would request your recommendation of approval. Thank you.
Centers: There is one owner right now of all of it?
Boyle: Yes.
Centers: Does that answer your question?
Boyle: And I believe, Commissioners, that just like staff, that Conditional Use Permit will
run with the land regardless of change of ownership, you know, for platting or other
purposes, the provisions of the Conditional Use Permit would still run with any assigns,
heirs, successors, however that -- I'm not a legal beagle either, but whatever the
language is. Thank you.
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Centers: Thanks.
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman, I move the Public Hearing be closed.
Mathes: Second.
Borup: Motion and second to close the Public Hearing. All in favor? Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Borup: Do we have a motion?
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman, I move that we forward to the City Council recommending
approval of PFP 02-004, request for Preliminary/Final Plat approval of three building lots
on 5.5 acres in C-G zone for Norco Subdivision by Pinnacle Engineers, Inc., 2150 East
Fairview, to include all staff comments.
Centers: Delete Number 3 on Page --
Zaremba: With the exception of deleting comment Number 3 on Page 2.
Mathes: Second.
Borup: Motion and second. All in favor? Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Centers: Could I move for a break?
Borup: Yes. So moved. Was it?
(Recess.)
Item 10.
Public Hearing: Comprehensive Plan Test Amendments regarding
Urban Services Policies in the 2002 Comprehensive Plan:
Borup: We'd like to reconvene our meeting this evening. We had moved Item Number
4 on the agenda to this point. This is a Public Hearing on a Comprehensive Plan Text
Amendment regarding urban service policies of the 2002 Comprehensive Plan. Open
the Public Hearing at this time and start with the staff report.
McKinnon: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission. There are a few of
you that are new to the process. I think Commissioner Zaremba -- I don't know if you
were on the Commission when we went through the Comprehensive Plan,
Commissioner Mathes, Commissioner Rohm. Nick, I think, a well. Just a little bit of
background for you on the Comprehensive Plan and the process and why this is in front