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Meridian City Pre-Council MeetinQ
Mav 2, 2006
The Meridian City Pre-Council meeting was called to order at 6:30 P.M. on
Tuesday, May 2, 2006 by President Councilman Shaun Wardle.
Members Present: Mayor Tammy de Weerd, Keith Bird, Shaun Wardle, Charlie
Rountree and Joe Borton.
Staff Present: Bill Musser, Ted Baird, Anna Canning and Will Berg.
Item 1.
Roll-call Attendance:
Roll call.
X Shaun Wardle
X Charlie Rountree
X
X Joe Borton
X Keith Bird
Mayor Tammy de Weerd
Item 2.
Adoption of the Agenda:
Bird: Mr. President.
Wardle: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move we approve the agenda as published.
Rountree: Second.
Wardle: It's been moved and seconded to adopt the agenda. All in favor.
ALL AYES. MOTION CARRIED.
Item 3.
Presentation by An~eline Adams on Li~ht Rail System in the
Treasure Valley:
Wardle: Madame Mayor, I believe you are going to introduce Item Number 3 for
us.
De Weerd: Yes, thank you. I received an email from a high school senior at
Meridian High, Angeline Adams and she did her senior project on mass
transportation, public transportation and in particular on our rail system. So, she
did ask if she could do a presentation here in front of City Council. ] do
appreciate that we are giving her an audience and with that said, I will go ahead
and turn it over to Angeline.
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Adams: Thank you Madame Mayor, members of the Council. I appreciate your
time. As you know, my name is Angeline Adams. I did a senior project on the
light rail system, the need for it in the Treasure Valley due to population growth.
As you can see, the Treasure Valley has had an estimated increase by 110,000
from the 2000 to 2010 and there is a traffic congestion problem not only on our
highways, but also on our back roads. The high population has caused more
cars to travel on these roads, which has also increased the pollution in the
Treasure Valley. According to the United States Census Bureau, bottlenecks
make up more than 50 percent of the total traffic congestion. As you can see
now on the screen there two photos, both of these are taken of downtown Boise
in the early 1900's of the old trolley cars that were used. A little bit history - an
inter-urban service was started in the year 1907 and ran from Boise to the Valley
cities of Caldwell and Nampa. This service line looped throughout Boise,
Meridian, Nampa and Caldwell and then made its way back to Boise through the
towns of Eagle and Duncan. The service line became known as the loop and
people enjoyed taking the popular Sunday excursions. The loops of street cars
were taken over by buses when the street started to become paved in the late
teens and early twenties. Patronage was decreased and buses over ruled most
of the street cart and inter-urban services in the year 1927. Amtrak stopped
running through the Valley in 1997. The Treasure Valley has transformed into an
urban area with a population of our 430,000 residents from both Ada and Canyon
Counties. In 1997 there were almost as many cars as there were people. Boise
Senator, David Lanhourse said the development of a mass transit system is
critical towards addressing air quality. As you can see now, there is a chart on
the screen and this has been taken since 1978, which in the green 52 percent
population growth has occurred. In the pink, more than 100 percent growth in
annual vehicle miles traveled. In the blue, 93 percent more cars have been
registered. Three best practices that helped form an idea for the Treasure Valley
is in San Diego, CA, Portland, OR and New York City, NY. According to the
United States Census Bureau taken in 2004, San Diego, CA is home to about 3
million residents. San Diego is the second largest city in California and the
seventh largest in the United States. The Coaster, which runs from Ocean Side
to downtown San Diego serves as an alternative to driving. In order to pay for
the Coaster a .5 percent sales tax was imposed on the San Diego County in the
year 1987. In 1994, Coaster purchased tracks from Amtrak. Revenue for
Coaster service began on February 27, 1995. In its first year the Coaster saw
about 700,000 riders. By the year 2004, it was carrying 1.4 million passengers
annually. The Coaster Commuter Train runs on 48 miles of mainline track.
There are eight stations along the way and stops at each station are very brief.
As you can see in the diagram, eight stations within four zones. Each stop
includes a few park and ride parking lots with the exception of the Santa Fe
Depot in downtown San Diego, which is the last stop. Seating is available for all
Coaster passengers on both the lower and upper decks. Bikes can also be
carried on the Coaster for easy transportation. Wheelchairs have designated
areas on the Coaster and assistance is available for those who need to use a
wheelchair lift. There is absolutely no smoking and shoes and shirts must be
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worn at all times. The second best practice is Portland, OR, which is one of the
many cities with high levels of traffic congestion, but its transportation system has
allowed them to move more people on a more frequent basis. The transportation
infrastructure of Portland has transformed its once lingering districts to densely
populated urban cores. Portland is home to over 1.3 million residents. In the
1970's, Portland planned to undergo construction on the Mountain Hood
Freeway, but canceled and decide to improve transit options. The Metro, an
alleged regional government was approved by Portland voters in the year 1978
and remains the only one in the United States. Since the decision to build Max
Lines in 1978, more than 3 billion dollars in development has occurred along the
lines. The three Max Lines run on 44 miles of track and serve 64 stations. The
blue line open in September 1998, red line in September 2001 and the yellow
line on May 1, 2004. Between July 2003 and June 2004 there was a record of 91
million rides taken on Tri-Mets max light rail and buses. Max accounts for 31
percent of Tri-Mets total daily trips. Tri-Mets bus line carries nearly 210,000 trips
per day of rider-ship. About 77 percent of riders ride by choice. Meaning that
they do have another mode of transportation, such as driving. Between 81 and
92 percent of Max riders strongly approve of the three Max Lines. The third best
practice is New York City, which has a population of about 8 million people. It
has created a highly complex system in order to accommodate to the heavy flow
of traffic in and out of the city. In 1827, a man by the name of Abraham Brower
established New York City's first public transportation route. This consisted of a
12 seat stagecoach called Accommodation that ran along Broadway from the
Battery to Bleaker Street. Brower added the Sociable and Omnibus by 1831.
John Mason organized the New York City Harlem Railroad, a street car that used
four strong cars with metal wheels that ran on a metal track by the next year.
There were 27 Manhattan routes and 593 Omnibuses by the year 1855. New
York City's first official subway system opened in Manhattan on October 27,
1904. Trolley bus lines were first used on Stanton Island in the 1920's. The
city's board of transportation completed construction on the 8th Avenue line and
created the independent rapid transit railroad, IND. The first (inaudible) city run
subway service in the year 1932. By 1956, motor buses replaced New York City
public transit trolley cars and trolley buses by 1960. The New York State
Legislature created the New York City Transit Authority on June 15, 1953, which
is now known as the MTA New York City Transit. This organization was created
as a separate public corporation to manage and operate all city-owned bus,
trolley and subway routes. New York City operates its public transportation on a
24-hour a day system for buses and subways. New York City's transportation
system is the largest public agency in North America. Treasure Valley residents
have already answered questions based on Idaho's future for transportation in a
recent survey. Taken at Meridian High School, seven questions were placed in
teachers and staff's mailboxes. Only 57 teacher and staff members out of 100
responded, but the results were overwhelming. Some of these important results
include 47 percent said that the population growth in Idaho is out of control.
Forty-five percent responded that they are indeed frustrated with driving to work
in the heavy traffic. Seventy percent agreed that having a light rail system would
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be perfect for reducing traffic problems as well as pollution. Sixty-seven percent
said that they would indeed take a local train or Amtrak to work, travel or for
leisure. Seventy-five percent said that a public transportation system would be
nice to have in each city for easy access to a local train or Amtrak. Idaho's light
rail system would be very similar to the one used in San Diego, CA. This has
come forth because the Portland one runs straight through town and New York
City's is highly complex. The name 84 would come from paralleling to Highway
84. Building a light rail system may take a few years, but it would payoff in the
long run. Building a light rail system from Caldwell to Mountain Home would
accommodate for Treasure Valley residents. The stops would include major
cities, such as Caldwell, Nampa, Meridian, Boise and Mountain Home.
Extensions in the future would also be available. Park and ride lots would be
available at each station for easy transfer. Rules such as riding, wheelchairs,
bikes, smoking and costs would be similar to those in California. A sales tax
would need to be increased by .5 percent in the Treasure Valley in order to pay
for the trains and labor just like in California. Seventy-five percent of the teacher
and staff members that took the survey agreed that raising taxes would pay for a
light rail system and that they would not mind paying it. In conclusion, Ada
County is expected to have about 378,000 residents in the year 2010 and about
460,000 by the year 2020. Canyon County is expected to have about 164,000
residents in the year 2010 and about 192,000 by the year 2020. The Treasure
Valley is expected to have 110,000 more residents in just ten years. A light rail
system is a great idea towards decreasing current traffic congestion problems in
Idaho and saving Idaho from more traffic problems in the future. On the screen
now are a list of references that came in handy for this project. I would like to
thank you for your time and open up for any questions. Before I do, I do have
some paperwork on the light rail system that is used in California and if it would
be okay if I present it?
De Weerd: Sure.
Adams: In this packet are the survey questions that I took. The survey of adults
(inaudible) sent in information on the Coaster system and they actually did add a
sprinter and California (inaudible--) and I have some information on that if you
would like it. I have a couple for whoever would like to have them.
De Weerd: Mr. President.
Wardle: Madame Mayor.
De Weerd: Angeline how is the system in Portland and New York paid for? You
had mentioned that the sales tax pays for the land in San Diego. What were the
funding methods for the other two?
Adams: I was unable to find any information on that, but when I was looking at
the California one I felt that that was the more reasonable one for here because
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the Portland's would run straight through our city and I don't think we would want
to tear up our city too much and New York's was highly complicated, so I figured
that their costs would probably be much more too.
Bird: Mr. President.
Wardle: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Angeline, thank you for the presentation. It was first class. In California,
the one you evidently got the most information on, after the five percent - what
do the fees - do they help sustain the upkeep or that you pay to ride or do they
help?
Adams: The tax increase?
Bird: No, the fees that you pay to get on the light rail? I mean, you don't ride
free do you?
Adams: No. In the packet I list the fees that are in the different zones and, yes,
they go to making sure the transportation is up to standards and making sure
everyone is pleased with it and they go for the workers that help.
Bird: But, they have kept the five percent sales tax?
Adams: I believe they actually took that away.
Bird: That was my main point that once you get set up and everything, then do
the fees for riders - rider fees let's call it maintain and pay for the light rail?
Adams: I believe so.
Bird: Thank you very much.
Adams: And my dad also has been watching the news lately there has been a
population growth and Boise has ranked number one with the 12.85 percent and
at number 12 is Spokane with 5.5, so that just gives you an idea of how much we
have been growing for your information. Then we got something in the mail, if
you don't mind me presenting this too, something to do with the Eagle Road -
Bird: Mr. President, if I may?
Wardle: Mr. Bird.
Bird: To get started have you looked into like these buses that they transport
now, we have Treasure Valley Ride buses and the railroad has big pickups that
they put these wheels on that drop down and they can run it on the tracks. I
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thought in my little pea brain that maybe to get started we could use something
like that. Then go to the light rail because - well, until we have got some money
build up in the five percent tax. Is that something possible do you think?
Adams: I believe that the track that we do have now - is that what you are
referring to --?
Bird: Yeah.
Adams: -- that is used for heavy train right now, I believe that we would be able
to use that and that does run through Idaho very far and that is why I was saying
extensions such as maybe extending out to Pocatello so that college and those
people can come into our town. So, yes, I believe that we would be able to use
that track that we do have now and maybe expand the bus system for those who
don't want to use cars or -
Bird: Thank you very much.
Adams: Thank you.
De Weerd: Mr. President.
Wardle: Madame Mayor.
De Weerd: Would your teacher, Ms. Knox have anything to add?
Adams: Thank you very much.
Bird: Thank you Angeline.
Knox: This is just one example of some of the excellent presentations that we
had. We are very proud of Angeline and the work that she has put in. As you
can see, her question to me is it's done, but what I do with it now? I suggested
she bring it to you. I believe that what she has presented to you is feasible. I
believe that it is a starting point and I believe that this is our future. These are
the kids we are about to graduate in a very few more weeks here and this is an
example of some of what their hopes and dreams are for our community. I really
appreciate you allowing her to come in and speak.
De Weerd: Mr. President.
Wardle: Madame Mayor.
De Weerd: I would tell Angeline and yourself that there is a coalition together for
public transportation and that is the direction they are going with the .5 percent
sales tax to fund public transportation. So, I think that you have brought some
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great examples and you laid it out very nicely. I am very impressed with your
presentation and certainly we will share the minutes of this meeting with the
Valley Regional Transit Executive Director. She was not able to come tonight
and she did want to be here. But, we will share that with her and see what kind
of information out of that they can use in presenting their story because it is
certainly the success of getting a transit system in this area is going to be how
well we tell the story. So, we appreciate your presentation.
Knox: Thank you for having us.
Borton: Mr. President.
Wardle: Mr. Borton.
Borton: I just (inaudible) want to say in addition to the outstanding content and
work that you have done - my practice of law is my other job and speaking and
arguing is (inaudible) and when I see somebody a big point of persuading and
arguing and presenting is the ability to speak clearly, enunciate well, make eye
contact and I do not make light of your amazing ability to do that I think your
content is phenomenal, but I am particularly impressed with the way you
presented it. You are very clear. You look at everybody and it maybe sounds
like little things, but I think that is phenomenal and I want to recognize you for
that because it is going to make you and everything you presented and talk about
in the future much more persuasive.
Adams: Thank you for your compliment. I appreciate it, thank you.
De Weerd: Thank you.
Wardle: Thank you very much and certainly it was an excellent presentation and
hopefully this little experience is - I know that you feel strongly about the role of
government in people's lives and this is one of the closest levels that you can get
to in local government. So, you are certainly welcome back any time. We
appreciate the presentation. With that Council, I would entertain a motion to
adjourn.
Rountree: So moved.
Bird: Second.
Wardle: It's been moved and seconded to adjourn the Pre-Council meeting. All
in favor.
ALL AYES. MOTION CARRIED.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 6:52 P.M.
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