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Meridian City Council Meeting April 15, 2003
The regular meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 7:05 P.M.,
Tuesday, April 15, 2003, by Mayor Robert Corrie.
Members Present: Robert Corrie, William Nary, Tammy de Weerd, Cherie McCandless,
and Keith Bird.
Others Present: William Nichols, Brad Hawkins-Clark, Brad Watson, Will Berg, Ken
Bowers, Doug Strong, and Dean Willis.
Item 1: Roll-call Attendance:
Roll call.
__X Tammy de Weerd _ X__ Bill Nary
__X Cherie McCandless __X Keith Bird
___X__ Mayor Robert Corrie
Corrie: All right. I will open the City of Meridian's City Council regular meeting, Tuesday,
April the 15th, 2003, at 7:05 p.m. At this time I'd like to have the City Clerk have the roll-
call attendance, please.
Item 2: Adoption of the Agenda:
Corrie: Okay. Item No. 2 is adoption of the agenda.
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I will make the changes as we go through the agenda on the Consent. We got
some things that we need to pull and probably some that we need to continue, but on
the main agenda, Items No. 8, 9, 10 and 11, the Silverleaf Subdivision, has been
requested to be continued to June 15th, 2003.
Corrie: July.
Bird: July. I'm sorry. To July 15, 2003. And with those changes noted, I don't believe
there are any other changes. I would move that we adopt the agenda as noted.
McCandless: Second.
Corrie: Okay. Motion has been made and seconded to adopt the agenda as changed.
Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor say aye. Opposed no? All ayes.
Motion carried.
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MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 3: Consent Agenda:
A. February 19, 2003
Approve minutes of City Council Special
Meeting:
B. March 25, 2003
Approve minutes of City Council Regular Meeting:
C. April 1, 2003
Approve minutes of City Council Regular Meeting:
D. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: AZ 02-
033
Request for annexation and zoning of 104.77 acres from RUT
Parkstone Subdivision
to R-8 PD zones for proposed by Hillview
Development, Corp. – west of North Eagle Road and north of East
Ustick Road:
E. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: PP 02-
033
Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 334 building lots and
34 other lots on 104.77 acres in a proposed R-8 PD zone for
Parkstone Subdivision
proposed by Hillview Development, Corp.
– west of North Eagle Road and north of East Ustick Road:
F. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: CUP
02-049
Request for a Conditional Use Permit for a Planned Unit
Development for 275 single-family dwellings, 52 townhomes, 4
office lots, 2 commercial lots, 1 mini-storage lot, 1 pocket park, 1
city neighborhood park and 32 common lots on 104.77 acres for
Parkstone Subdivision
proposed by Hillview Development, Corp.
– west of North Eagle Road and north of East Ustick Road:
G. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Denial: AZ 02-
032
Request for annexation and zoning of 5.0 acres from RUT to
Northbridge Subdivision
R-2 zones for proposed by Centennial
Development, LLC – west of North Meridian Road on West Ustick
Road:
H. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Denial: PP 02-
035
Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 5 building lots and 4
other lots on 5.0 acres in a proposed R-2 zone for proposed
Northbridge Subdivision
by Centennial Development, LLC – west
of North Meridian Road on West Ustick Road:
K. Beer, Wine, and Liquor License Renewals:
Texas Roadhouse – Beer and Liquor
Epi’s A Basque Restaurant – Beer and Wine
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Meridian Bowling Lanes – Beer and Liquor
Pizza Hut – Beer
Fred Meyer – Beer and Wine
Bill n Lynn’s Place – Beer and Liquor
Lotus Garden Chinese Restaurant – Beer
Bolo’s – Beer and Wine
Rite Aid – Beer and Wine
Wingers – Beer and Wine
Chicago Connection – Beer and Wine
Cherry Lane Golf Course – Beer and Liquor
White Water Saloon – Beer and Liquor
Primo’s All You Can Eat - Beer
L. Approve Lease for Additional Office Space for Public Works /
Building Department:
M. Change Order No. 1, Victory Road Water Main Design – Civil
Survey Consultants:
N. Award Bid / Contract for Landscaping at the South Entrance of
the Waste Water Treatment Plant:
O. Addendum to Agreement for Professional Services, J-U-B
Engineers – South Slough Sewer Project:
P. Resolution No. : Amending Resolution
No. 142 Adopting Deferred Compensation Plan for the City of
Meridian Employees:
Corrie: Consent Agenda.
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: On the Consent Agenda, Items D, E, and F, the Parkstone Subdivision, has been
asked to be moved back until April 15th, 2003, so we can get some --
Corrie: April 22nd.
De Weerd: 22nd.
Bird: Or April 22nd. I'm sorry. And, then, with the permission of Nary and McCandless,
I'd like to pull items I and J to 5-I and 5-J on the regular agenda.
McCandless: Second.
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Nary: Second.
Bird: Okay. And with that I would move we adopt the Consent Agenda and for the
Mayor to sign and the Clerk to attest on all proper papers.
Nary: Second.
Corrie: Okay. I -- for purposes of Item P, what is that resolution number, Mr. Clerk?
Amending Resolution Adopting Deferred Comp Plan. 03-402. All right. Okay. Any
further discussion? Hearing none, roll-call vote, Mr. Berg.
Roll-Call: McCandless, yea; Nary, yea; de Weerd, yea; Bird, yea.
Corrie: Okay. All ayes. The motion is approved.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 4: Department Reports:
A. Mayor’s Office – Mayor Corrie:
1. Appointment of Meridian Development Corporation Board
Member (to fulfill Jim Johnson Seat #1until 8-04):
Corrie: Okay. Next is Department Reports and appointment of Meridian Development
Corporation board member to fill Jim Johnson's seat #1 until 8-04. At this time I would
like to recommend the name of Mr. Jonathan P. Cecil, who lives at 620 North Mineral
Wells Avenue in Meridian, Idaho. I have given you -- you all got a copy of his resume. I
did have a meeting and talking with Jon, he is a planner with the City of Meridian, he
has extensive knowledge on urban renewal, local government, and municipal financing.
He was a city administrator -- planning and zoning administrator of urban renewal and
executive director for the City of Jerome and he's well qualified for this seat on the
MDC. So, I will answer any questions you might have, but I will be recommending -- I
am recommending him to be placed on the MDC board.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: Just -- he is a planner with Ada County and he lives here in Meridian. He's
very knowledgeable about urban renewal areas and he's familiar with our attorney and I
think he has talked with you, and I also spoke with him. I think he will be a great addition
and a different voice coming from a different angle and I would like to move that we
approve your appointment of Jonathan Cecil until August '04.
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Nary: Second.
Corrie: Okay. Motion has been made and seconded. Any further discussion? Okay. All
those in favor say aye. Opposed no? Okay. Then, Mr. Jonathan P. Cecil will be part of
the MDC board.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 5: (Items Moved from Consent Agenda):
I. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Denial: AZ
02-034
Request for annexation and zoning of 5.0 acres from
Bleak Subdivision
RUT to R-3 zones for proposed by Kent
and Nancy Bleak – 4920 West Cherry Lane:
J. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Denial:
PFP 02-005
Request for Preliminary / Final Plat approval of
1 building lot and 1 other lot on 5 acres in a proposed R-3
Bleak Subdivision
zone for proposed by Kent and Nancy
Bleak – 4920 West Cherry Lane:
Corrie: Okay. The next is the items moved from the Consent Agenda. The two items
that have been removed is I and J, Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law of denial
on the annexation and zoning of the Bleak Subdivision and preliminary and final plat
approval. Mr. Nary.
Nary: Mr. Mayor, one of the discussion points I wanted to discuss on Item I, the
Findings on the annexation denial, what I would move is that we amend the findings --
one of the things that was presented in the staff report and was not addressed any
further by other testimony was the fact that currently this particular property does not
have sewer service available to it and there was discussion if there was going to be an
annexation and when that could be done and how that could be accomplished through
some sort of agreement for hook up later, but the Findings don't reflect the fact that
there is no current sewer service. So, I was going to move to amend the Findings to
also include that there is no current service. Now, was I incorrect? Did I hear that
incorrectly, Brad, that that property does not currently have sewer service available?
Hawkins-Clark: Councilman Nary, that is correct. It does not.
Nary: So, I think the Findings, to be accurate, need to reflect the fact that there is no
current sewer service and the other thing I was going to make note for the record, we
did receive a letter from Kent and Nancy Bleak, dated April 10th, that was attached with
a map of the area, basically, requesting that we reconsider our decision based upon the
-- their belief that it is compliant with the Comprehensive Plan. I think we discussed that
extensively, the fact that it may be -- it may be compliant with the Comprehensive Plan
wasn't really the focus of the discussion. My recollection is the discussion was dealing
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with the big picture of what was being proposed and no different than any other
application for annexation when we also have an opportunity to look at what's going to
be proposed there, we have to make a decision as to whether or not what's being
proposed is something we feel is compatible with the city and the Comprehensive Plan
and the zones that are appropriate and what is going to be there and whether or not
that's something that we would like to see. I think that was the focus of the discussion.
That is reflected somewhat in the Findings, but I'm not willing to make a motion to
reconsider. I think we had this discussion, I don't think the letter, although well written
with some good information, doesn't have any new information. I think it's the same
information we heard previously. We did discuss that. So, I was not going to make a
motion to reconsider, but I would move to amend the Findings to reflect the fact that it
was presented -- the evidence did present that there is no current sewer service
available to this property.
Corrie: Okay. Any other discussion?
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: Neither Councilman Bird nor I can bring it back on the table, so --
Corrie: That's correct.
De Weerd: It would be either Councilman Nary or Councilwoman McCandless, so -- I
thought the letter did restate some strong arguments in favor of reconsidering and
offering housing choices and, looking, it does comply with the Comprehensive Plan, but
I know that's not any news to you on what I feel.
Corrie: I guess the question from the Chair here is do either one of you want to change
-- or recommend a change?
Nary: I do not.
Corrie: Okay. Hearing that, then, Mr. Attorney, do we need to have the motion on the
amended Findings that Mr. Nary brought up and, then, we can --
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, the annexation Findings would be the
ones where the additional information needs to be presented and, then, the -- we will
bring -- we will simply include that as an additional Finding of Fact in those Findings and
the Conclusions, I think, would remain the same.
Nary: Correct.
Nichols: So, we would just include an additional finding and the Findings for the
preliminary plat would remain the same.
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Corrie: Okay.
Nary: That being said, Mr. Mayor, I move for Item I, AZ 02-034, that we amend the
Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law for this particular Bleak Subdivision to also
reflect that there are no current -- there is not current sewer service to this particular
property.
McCandless: Second.
Corrie: Motion has been made and seconded. Any further discussion? All those in favor
of the motion say aye. Opposed No? Okay. I guess I get to vote and I will be -- I vote
an aye, too. So, I will vote aye.
MOTION CARRIED: TWO AYES. TWO NAYS. MAYOR AYE.
Nary: Mr. Mayor ?
Corrie: Okay. Mr. Nary.
Nary: I certainly understand why Councilmember Bird and de Weerd voted against it,
but there really was evidence that there is no sewer service there, so it's not really doing
anything, it's just reflecting the facts that were presented.
Nichols: Mr. Mayor?
Bird: We know.
Nary: I know you know. So the record reflects it.
Corrie: Mr. Nichols.
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, now there needs to be a motion to adopt the Findings as amended.
Nary: Now these you can vote no again. Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
Nary: I would move the approval of -- and since we have done this on the Consent
Agenda, unless someone has an objection, I was just going to move for approval as is
on both of them. I move to approve Items I and J, AZ 02-034, the amended Findings for
denial for the request for annexation and zoning of Bleak Subdivision, and the Findings
as presented and Conclusions of Law for PFP 02-005, for the Mayor to sign and the
Clerk to attest.
McCandless: Second.
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Corrie: Motion has been made and seconded. Any further discussion? All those in favor
of the motion say aye. Opposed? Okay. Then, the Chair will vote aye.
MOTION CARRIED: TWO AYES. TWO NAYS. MAYOR AYE.
Item 6: Ordinance No. : AZ 02-029
Request for
Annexation and Zoning of 39.92 acres from RUT to R-8 zones for
Watersong Estates
proposed by Howell-Murdoch Development
Corporation – northwest corner of North Linder Road and West Ustick
Road:
Corrie: Onto Item No. 6. That's democracy. All right. Item No. 6, which is Ordinance No.
03-1017. This is a request for annexation and zoning of 39.92 acres from RUT to R-8
zone for proposed Watersong Estates by Howell-Murdoch Development Corporation,
northwest corner of North Linder Road and West Ustick Road. At this time I would ask
the City Clerk to read Ordinance No. 03-1017 by title only at this time.
Berg: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council. Ordinance No. 03-1017, an
Ordinance finding that Howell-Murdoch Development Corporation, the owner of certain
real property generally located on the west side of Linder Road, one quarter mile
northeast of Ustick Road in Meridian, to be known as Watersong Estates Subdivision
and which lies contiguous or adjacent to the city limits of the City of Meridian, county of
Ada, State of Idaho, have made a request for annexation in writing to the Council and
that said land be annexed to the City of Meridian, zoning designated Medium Density
Residential District (R-8), and declaring that said land, by proper legal description as
described below, be a part of the City of Meridian, County of Ada, State of Idaho,
repealing all ordinances, resolutions, orders or parts thereof, in conflict herewith, and
directing the city engineer to add said property to the official maps of the City of
Meridian, Idaho, and directing the Clerk of the City of Meridian to file a certified copy of
the ordinance and map of the areas to be annexed with the Ada county recorder,
auditor, treasurer, and assessor and the State Tax Commission of the State of Idaho,
pursuant to Idaho Code Section 50-223 and Section 63-2215.
Corrie: Okay. You have heard the reading of Ordinance No. 03-1017 by title only. Is
there anyone from the audience that would like to have the ordinance read in its
entirety? Okay. Council, you have before you a request for annexation of Watersong
Estates by ordinance.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: I move we approve Ordinance No. 03-1017, request for annexation and
zoning of 39.92 acres from RUT to R-8 zones for the proposed Watersong Estates and
ask the Mayor to sign and the Clerk to attest with suspension of rules.
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Bird: Second.
Corrie: Motion has been made and seconded to approve Ordinance No. 03-1017 with
suspension of rules. Any further discussion? Hearing none, roll-call vote, Mr. Berg.
Roll-Call: McCandless, yea; Nary, yea; de Weerd, yea; Bird, yea.
Corrie: All yeas. Ordinance No. 03-1017 will be effective after the ordinance is
published.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 7: Tabled from April 1, 2003: FP 03-011
Request for Final Plat approval of
26 building lots and 8 other lots on 5.48 acres in an R-8 zone for
Mosher’s Farm Subdivision
by CMD, Inc. – northwest corner of North
Ten Mile Road and West Pine Avenue:
Corrie: Item No. 7 is tabled from the April 1st, 2003, request for final plat approval of 26
building lots and eight other lots on 5.48 acres in an R-8 zone for Mosher's Farm
Subdivision by CMD, Inc., northwest corner of North Ten Mile Road and West Pine
Avenue. Staff comments first.
Hawkins-Clark: Thank you, Mayor, Members of the Council. This item was continued
primarily due to some reconfiguration of the sewer and -- through the subdivision, as
well as pressurized irrigation and those issues have been worked out with Public Works,
so I will go ahead and just briefly touch on the final flat. It is located just north of West
Pine Avenue on the west side of Ten Mile Road. The Ten Mile sub drain is adjacent to
the southern boundary of the plat. It is just a single phase development. The plat has 26
building lots and six other lots. It was annexed with an R-8 zone. The staff report dated
April 1st by Wendy Kirkpatrick and Bruce Freckleton does outline a couple of
recommended conditions from staff. The plat as shown on the screen is generally in
compliance with the preliminary plat. They are providing a pedestrian connection to the
Chaparral Elementary School lot. The one modification that was changed with Public
Works -- they have added a new common lot here down in the southeast corner of the
project to run the sewer through. It is a 15 foot wide common lot, not a 20. That's due to
an existing house that is on this lot here. The house, if we had a standard 20, the
easement line would be on the -- basically, the wall of the existing house. So, Public
Works has agreed to reduce that to a 15 foot. I think the only two additional notes to
make on our conditions relate to -- that -- there is one on that lot and we ask that a
dedicated blanket sewer easement on Lot 32 of Block 1, that would need to be a new
note that would be added to have that blanket sewer easement over that full lot and
that's not in the staff report, so we would recommend that that be added, as well as a
new condition that says that the landscape plan dated March 25, '03, is approved as
submitted and that does have a basketball court, as you may recall, as part of the
planned development in their open space lot here, which is accessible off of the cul-de-
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sac. The revised plat that has this 15 foot wide sanitary sewer in it is dated April 14, '03.
I think that's all staff has.
Corrie: Okay. Thank you. Any questions, comments for staff?
Nichols: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nichols.
Nichols: Brad, could I have that lot and block again? I didn't get it quick enough.
Hawkins-Clark: Oh. Lot 32, Block 1.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: We did not get staff comments on this. Or I don't have it on my disk.
McCandless: I don't either.
Corrie: Actually, all we got is a couple letters from Wendy. It was a letter dated April 1st
from Wendy Kirkpatrick, Planner II. There was a letter that it had to be tabled to today.
That's all we have.
Hawkins-Clark: I have record that -- it was dated April 1st. I'm sorry. Other than that, I
don't have any other record that it was sent to the clerk's office, so I would have to rely
on Will for that.
Corrie: While we are waiting, it the applicant here tonight or representative? Did you get
a copy of what we are -- name and address just for the record, so we --
Ketterling: Yeah. Kasey Ketterling. I'm representing CMD. I'm an engineer with Leavitt &
Associates. Address 1324 1st Street South, Nampa, Idaho. I do not have a copy. I have
not received a copy.
Corrie: This says site specific and general comments.
Ketterling: I was going to ask if Doug received a copy. I wasn't sure if he received one or
not.
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
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Nary: Do you need some time to review it? Do you want us to move this down a couple
of slots and, then, you can look at that for a minute?
Ketterling: Well, that would be just fine. I have talked quite a bit with Public Works. I'm
aware of their desires and their needs, so I'm probably familiar with these items, but
would that be okay if I -- maybe you guys need a couple minutes yourself to look
through it.
Corrie: Okay. But you're fine with all the comments and that?
Ketterling: Let me just take a minute.
Corrie: Okay. That's fine.
Ketterling: I don't know if you want to move to another item or --
Corrie: Okay. Well, we can do that. We can --
Ketterling: If I can just take a minute I would just do that as well.
Corrie: Okay. If it's going to take just about a minute, then, we will wait.
Ketterling: Okay.
Corrie: That will give us a chance for us to read it up here.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: Brad, in the site specific comments you wanted to add an additional
comment? Is that what the change was?
Hawkins-Clark: That's correct.
De Weerd: That was just regarding a plat change?
Hawkins-Clark: Correct. There was, actually, two. One was to require a blanket sanitary
sewer easement on Lot 32, Block 1 and, then -- which I guess would be number five.
And, then, number six would be that the landscape plan, dated March 25, '03, is
approved as submitted. Those would be the two.
De Weerd: Okay. Yeah. These are all pretty general, so --
Corrie: Do you --
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Ketterling: Yes. Kasey Ketterling, again, for the record. We don't have a problem with
any of these comments. Item number four on the site specific comments, is that, once
again, calling -- I don't know if you guys remember the discussion we had on tiling that
ditch during the annexing phase of this subdivision, but I was under the understanding
that we were not to going to tile the drain, except for those areas which would impact
the sidewalk. We would tile enough of the drains that the sidewalk would have adequate
soil underneath it.
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: That was my understanding, too, Mr. Mayor, that we weren't requiring that, other
than where the sidewalks are coming.
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
Nary: So would we -- Brad, to be safe, we should probably look at amending four,
because I think -- I think everyone's right, I think the discussion was simply tiling the
section that was, essentially, where the sidewalk is adjacent to Ten Mile and not the
remainder of it.
Ketterling: That's as we remember it as well.
Hawkins-Clark: Mr. Mayor, I think that's correct. If we just checked the preliminary plat
conditions in the annexation. So, if we just require the final plat to comply with the
preliminary plat annexation findings, then, I think we would be covered.
Ketterling: Okay. That's fine.
Corrie: Okay. Anything else?
Ketterling: Not from us.
Corrie: Okay. All right. Thank you.
Ketterling: Thank you.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: I move that we approve the request for final plat of 26 building lots and eight
other lots on 5.48 acres in an R-8 zone for Mosher's Farm Subdivision, to include staff
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comments dated 4/1/2003, I hope. I know it says 2002. To add requirements to site
specific to require a sanitary sewer easement on Lot 20 -- or 32, Block 1, and the
landscape plan of 3/25/03 and to amend item number four to comply with the
preliminary plat. And ask the attorney to draw up Findings of Facts and Conclusions of
Law and Decision of Order.
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Okay. Motion has been made and seconded for approval with the additions.
Corrections. Any further discussion?
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: I guess just to add a notation on the date of the revised plat of 4/14/03.
Bird: I agree.
Corrie: Second agree? Okay. Any further discussion? Hearing none, roll-call vote, Mr.
Berg.
Roll-Call: McCandless, yea; Nary, yea; de Weerd, yea; Bird, yea.
Corrie: All ayes. Motion is approved. Request for final plat.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 8: Tabled from March 4, 2003: AP 03-001
Request to Appeal Meridian
Silverleaf Subdivision
Planning and Zoning Commission’s Denial of
Preliminary Plat by Shawn Nickel and Crestline Development, LLC – 2683
West Chinden Boulevard:
Item 9: Continued Public Hearing from March 4, 2003: AZ 02-030
Request for
annexation and zoning of 38.65 acres from RUT to R-4 zones for
Silverleaf Subdivision
proposed by Crestline Development, LLC – 2683
West Chinden Boulevard:
Item 10: Continued Public Hearing from March 4, 2003: PP 02-031
Request for
Preliminary Plat approval of 72 building lots and 8 other lots on 38.65
Silverleaf Subdivision
acres in a proposed R-4 zone for proposed by
Crestline Development, LLC – 2683 West Chinden Boulevard:
Item 11: Continued Public Hearing from March 4, 2003: VAR 03-006
Request
for a Variance to exceed 1,000 foot maximum block length and Variance
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Silverleaf Subdivision
to open space requirement for by Crestline
Development – 2683 West Chinden Boulevard:
Corrie: Item No. 8, 9, 10 and 11 have been requested to be continue the tabled appeal
for the Planning and Zoning Commission and to continue the Public Hearing on the
request for annexation, the Public Hearing for the preliminary plat, and continued Public
Hearing on request for variance until July 15th, 2003. At this time I will ask is there
anyone here that would like to give testimony now that's here, if they cannot be here on
the 15th of July? Okay. Hearing none, then, Council, I will entertain a motion.
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Are you going to -- we already continued the Public Hearing, so are you opening
up the public hearings?
Corrie: No. Not at this time. We can just continue it, because --
Bird: Okay. How about Item No. 8?
Corrie: Request for the appeal?
Bird: The request for the appeal. That -- we'll have to handle that as a -- as just a tabled
motion, then, won't we?
Nichols: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nichols.
Nichols: Perhaps as an abundance of caution, the requirement is that we have to have
a hearing within 45 days of the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning
Commission. Or, no, maybe it was they have to make their recommendation in 45 days
of the hearing. But, at any rate, if you open these hearings, then, continue them to that
date, there isn't any question about it.
Corrie: That was going to be my next question. Do we need to go ahead with the 45 day
-- since they requested it. Okay. And in reference to Mr. Bird's request, do we need to
just table the request for appeal and, then, open the public hearings on the other three?
Does that satisfy the rules? I'm thinking that's what we should do. Anyway --
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
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Bird: I would move that we table PP 03-001, request to appeal Meridian Planning and
Zoning Commission's denial of Silverleaf Subdivision preliminary plat by Shawn Nickel,
Crestline Development, LLC, 2683 West Chinden Boulevard to July 15th, 2003.
Nary: Second.
Corrie: Okay. Motion has been made and seconded to table the request for appeal of
the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission's denial of Silverleaf Subdivision
preliminary plat until -- tabled until July the 15th, 2003. Any further discussion? All those
in favor of the motion say aye. Opposed no? All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Corrie: So, at this time I will open the Public Hearing, then -- the continued Public
Hearing on Item No. 9, 10 and 11, which is a request for annexation and zoning,
preliminary plat, and a variance on Silverleaf Subdivision and having no one wish to
testify at this time, I will ask for a continuance request to postpone -- or continue it until
the 15th of July.
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I would move that we continue Public Hearing AZ 02-030, request for annexation
and zoning of 38.65 acres from RUT to R-4 zones for the proposed Silverleaf
Subdivision by Crestline Development, LLC, 2683 West Chinden Boulevard to July
15th, 2003.
De Weerd: Second.
Corrie: Okay. Motion has been made and seconded. Any discussion? All those in favor
of the motion say aye. All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Mr. Mayor, I move that we continue Public Hearing PP 02-031, request for
preliminary plat approval of 72 building lots and eight other lots on 38.65 acres in a
propose R-4 zone for proposed Silverleaf Subdivision by Crestline Development, LLC,
2683 West Chinden Boulevard to July 15th, 2003.
De Weerd: Second.
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Corrie: Okay. Motion has been made and seconded to continue the Public Hearing until
July the 15th on PP 02-031. Any further discussion? All those in favor of the motion say
aye. Opposed no? All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I would move that we continue Public Hearing VAR 03-006, the request for a
variance to exceed 1,000 foot maximum block length and variance to open space
requirement for Silverleaf Subdivision by Crestline Development, 2683 West Chinden
Boulevard to July 15th, 2003.
Nary: Second.
Corrie: Motion has been made and seconded to continue the Public Hearing on VAR
03-006 of Silverleaf Subdivision until July 15th, 2003. Any further discussion? Hearing
none, all those in favor say aye. Opposed no? All ayes. Motion is carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 12: Continued Public Hearing from April 1, 2003: AZ 03-001
Request for
annexation and zoning of 10.006 acres from RUT to L-O zones for
Central Valley Baptist Church
by Central Valley Baptist Church – east of
North Ten Mile Road and south of West Pine Avenue:
Corrie: Item No. 12 is a continued Public Hearing from the April 1st, 2003, request for
annexation and zoning of 10.006 acres from RUT to L-O zone for Central Valley Baptist
Church by the Central Valley Baptist Church, east of Ten Mile Road -- north Ten Mile
Road and south of West Pine Avenue. At this time I will continue the Public Hearing on
the request for annexation and zoning and invite staff's comments first.
Hawkins-Clark: Thank you, Mayor, Members of the Council. I did give a summation of
the annexation request two weeks ago. As you may recall, the applicant was not
present at the meeting and Council was not comfortable moving ahead, so I can go
through anything you'd like, but since I have already entered into the record staff's
report, I'll just either stand for questions or leave it open for the applicant.
Corrie: Okay. Any questions of staff at this point? Would the representative of Central
Valley Baptist Church -- since this is a continued Public Hearing I need to swear you in.
Is the testimony you are about to give the Council the truth, the whole truth, and nothing
but the truth, so help you God?
Houston: It is.
Corrie: Name and address, please, for the record.
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Houston: I'm Doug Houston. I'm with Olson & Associates, Architects, 5680 East Franklin
Road, Nampa. Representing Central Valley Baptist Church. We have nothing to add to
staff's comments and we have reviewed the conditions of approval and have no issues
with those conditions.
Corrie: Okay. Thank you. Any comments, questions from staff -- or Council. Excuse me.
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Okay. Thank you. Is there anyone else here that would like to issue testimony?
Okay. Council? Further discussion under the Public Hearing? Hearing none, I will
entertain a motion, then, to close the continued Public Hearing on this request.
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move we close the Public Hearing for the Central Valley Baptist Church by
Central Valley Baptist Church, AZ 02-001, the annexation and zoning of 10.006 acres.
Nary: Second.
Corrie: Motion has been made and seconded to close the Public Hearing. Is there any
further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor say aye. Opposed no? All ayes.
Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Corrie: First discussion? Hearing none, I will entertain a motion, then, for the request --
motion for the request of annexation and zoning.
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move that we approve AZ 03-001, the request for annexation and zoning of
10.006 acres from RUT to L-O zones for the Central Valley Baptist Church by Central
Valley Baptist Church, east of North Ten Mile Road and south of West Pine Avenue,
and incorporate staff comments and for the attorney to draw up the Findings of Facts
and Conclusions of Law and Decision of Order.
De Weerd: Second.
Corrie: Motion has been made and seconded to approve the request for annexation and
zoning. Any further discussion? Hearing none, roll-call vote, Mr. Berg.
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Roll-Call: McCandless, yea; Nary, yea; de Weerd, yea; Bird, yea.
Corrie: All ayes. Motion for request for annexation and zoning is approved.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 13: Continued Public Hearing from April 8, 2003: AZ 03-004
Request for
Montvue
annexation and zoning of 1.37 acres from R-1 to L-O zones for
Medical Clinic
by Pinnacle Engineers, Inc. – 360 East Montvue Drive:
Corrie: Item No. 13 is a continued Public Hearing from April the 9th, 2003, at the
request of the applicant of Montvue Medical Clinic. This is a question for annexation and
zoning of 1.37 acres from R-1 to L-O zones for Montvue Medical Clinic by Pinnacle
Engineers, Inc., 360 East Montvue Drive. At this time I will continue the Public Hearing
and ask staff's comments.
Hawkins-Clark: Mayor, Members of the Council, this item is for annexation and zoning.
It's a 1.36 acre lot, located in the Montvue Subdivision. It's highlighted there on the
center of the screen. St. Luke's Medical Center is immediately south. South Eagle
Road. As you well know, there is a signal here on South Eagle Road just north of the
interchange that serves a private street that was constructed with the St. Luke's 1999 --
or, I'm sorry, was approved with St. Luke's 1999 expansion. The entire Montvue
Subdivision, as you may recall, was a part of the discussion during the Comprehensive
Plan amendment last year, the year before. It is designated as commercial on the
Comprehensive Plan and there are policies, as was noted in Pinnacle Engineer's
application that do support office and medical type uses in commercial -- commercially
designated land on the Comprehensive Plan. So, the request to L-O does comply with
the Comprehensive Plan designation. It would be the first of what I believe -- 24 lots in
Montvue Subdivision. Most of them are about an acre in size. This would be the first
request within that subdivision to annex to the city. The subject site here is on the aerial
photo. As you can see, there is a large lot. There are single family detached houses
around the lot. The St. Luke's project is well built out now. The private St. Luke's Drive
does extend all the way back to serve the Touchmark senior center now and there is a
sidewalk -- well, a pathway, an asphalt pathway on the north side of that sidewalk that
goes the full length from Eagle Road all the way back to the Touchmark site. Here is the
elevations for the proposed building that were submitted with the application. The
structure is proposed to be two story. Just as a reminder, this application is not
proposing any development. It is strictly an annexation and zoning request, but we did
ask them to submit basic concepts of what they are proposing to do there, just for the
Council's understanding and edification. So, the ordinance typically would just annex the
ground, but this is what they have submitted with the application of what they are
intending to do with the property, even though there is not a conditional use right now or
a plat of any kind. These photos are a little difficult to see, so I will just go on to the site
plan that they have submitted. Again, it's a concept. The main point of discussion at the
Planning and Zoning Commission hearing was the point of vehicular access between
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Montvue Drive within the subdivision and accessing St. Luke's Drive, the private street
here. Ada County Highway District Commission did not allow a public street. They --
their conditions, again, are -- during annexations are just what they would apply should
a development application be submitted. So, they put a caveat in there, but their point
being that they don't -- they do not want to see a public street connecting Montvue to
the private St. Luke's Drive, so they have proposed a 29 foot wide private road that
would be within a 40 foot easement. There is existing evergreen-type plantings that are
on this western side of the entry road. The entry to the lot would be off of here on this
west side and, then, parking, generally, around the north and the west, with the building
situated here in the center, the new structure. They are proposing a sidewalk on just
one side of the street, the east side, since they would have to remove all these plantings
and, essentially, eliminate the buffer between that and the single family lot. Two
agreements, as I understand, from the applicant Clint Boyle, have been executed since
the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting. One of those agreements is between St.
Luke's and the homeowners association that sets up their terms for the access and the
other agreement is between the lot owner slash developer and the homeowners
association in terms of use of that private drive and access out to the signal. They are
private agreements. The city is not a party to them. We have not received a copy. The
Planning and Zoning Commission recommendation, I believe, is agreeable by the
applicant. The Planning and Zoning hearing did have a lot of discussion, as I say, about
that access and there is a lot of history, as I believe the Mayor and Councilman Bird and
Councilwoman de Weerd will recollect on the -- the St. Luke's project. We are requiring
that a certificate of zoning compliance be submitted prior to any redevelopment on the
site and if they are looking for anything other than standard limited office uses, they
would have to do a conditional use, which, of course, would involve a new Public
Hearing that everyone would be notified. We are requiring a development agreement
that outlines basic L-O uses and other than that I'll stand for any questions.
Corrie: Council, any questions of staff?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Okay. Since this is a continued Public Hearing, I will invite the applicant. Is the
testimony you are about to give the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you
God?
Boyle: It is.
Corrie: Name and address, please.
Boyle: Clint Boyle with Pinnacle Engineers. Business address 12552 West Executive
Drive in Boise, Idaho. Mayor and Council Members, it's a pleasure to be in front of you,
as always, with another project that we believe will be beneficial to the city. This
particular project -- the overview of this has been well presented by the staff. We have
worked with the staff extensively on this project, appreciate their efforts on this. This
particular area does have a history. Many of the Council members know more about
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that history than I do that have been on the Council for some time. This proposal in front
of you tonight is for an annexation request on 1.37 acres of land with a limited office
zoning designation, which is in conformance, we believe, with the Comprehensive Plan
and that would be the recent Comprehensive Plan that was adopted by the Council.
There are findings that support that. Those are outlined in the record and I'll leave it at
that. I just want to limit my comments and indicate that we are in agreement with the
recommended annexation and zoning conditions of approval, as outlined in the
recommendation to the City Council that's been presented. I believe that St. Luke's
presented the agreement -- the access agreement to the city clerk for access to St.
Luke's Drive, as well as access across this individual property for the Montvue
residents. I won't belabor those points too extensively here, other than to mention that
these agreements I know from the neighbors of Montvue and from St. Luke's and others
in the area have taken quite some time to put together. There has been a lot of effort
that have gone into them and my understanding of them is that something has been
reached that's acceptable to everyone, which will allow for access out of Montvue
Subdivision as we know it, which would be the residential lots in this area, will allow for
an additional outlet to St. Luke's Drive and allow them access to the signal light at Eagle
Road. So, we think that this project is a key to providing that access for the
neighborhood. The developers on this project are certainly receptive of allowing and
facilitating that access and believe that it will be beneficial to the neighborhood. With
that said, I will stand for any questions. Again, just reiterate that we are in agreement
with all the conditions listed in the staff's recommendation to City Council. Thank you.
Corrie: Thank you. Any questions of Mr. Boyle? Okay.
Boyle: Thank you.
Corrie: Is there anyone else from the public that would like to issue testimony at this
time? Council, further discussion on the Public Hearing? Okay. Hearing none, Mr. Bird.
Bird: We have got another --
Corrie: Oh. Okay. I didn't see him. Is the testimony you are about to give the truth, the
whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Hall: Yes, sir.
Corrie: Name and address, please.
Hall: Mayor Corrie, Commission Members, my name is Chuck Hall, I'm the director of
architecture and construction services for St. Luke's, 520 South Eagle Road. I believe
that there was a copy of our settlement agreement between St. Luke's and Montvue that
was sent to the Mayor and Council Members by our attorney approximately a month
ago. That was from Bob Burns of Moffatt Thomas, et al. Some of you know the history,
some of you probably don't want to know the history, but the success is that St. Luke's
and the vast majority of the property owners in Montvue have reached an agreement
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that allows Montvue access to and through our property to the traffic signal. That
agreement also says that the location of that road will be determined by those people
who have signed that agreement. So, I appreciate that you're not approving a plan
tonight. I just want to make sure that everybody is clear that we will work with all of the
people who sign this agreement to jointly agree on the location of that road. I think the
applicant is very aware of that. So, just with that, if there is any questions, I will be
willing to answer any questions you have.
Corrie: Thank you. Any questions?
Bird: He answered the only question I had. That's what I wanted to hear.
Corrie: Is there anyone else that would like to issue testimony? Yes, sir.
Reiswig: My name is Don Reiswig. I live at 3360 North Montvue Drive.
Corrie: Raise your right hand, please. Is the testimony you are about to give the truth,
the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Reiswig: It is.
Corrie: Thank you.
Reiswig: Okay. I live at 3360, which, if you look on the map here, it's -- as you come in
off of Eagle Drive and would make a -- yeah. It's the third house in, the third lot in, and
as a resident of Montvue I'm glad to see that the master plan was voted as commercial
use. I'm all for that. I'm all for the development of medical office buildings or other type
of buildings that are developed in there, but what I am against at the present time is the
use of Montvue Drive on Eagle for an access for a business, because of the extreme
danger of an accident there and I would -- I didn't get here in time for the -- to hear the
presentation, but I -- I would -- as a resident would like to see this not go forward until
there is a time that there is a satisfactory connection either to St. Luke's light or until the
connection between Touchmark's Louise Drive and East Montvue Drive are made. And
that's all.
Corrie: Okay. Any questions?
Bird: I have none.
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
Nary: I guess what I'm curious -- and I think I understand your point, but were you
concerned that this -- that this access point here won't be developed when this building
is developed?
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Reiswig: I am -- my concern -- my concern is that if this is developed in this location,
you know, if it is developed, then, that's fine. But until the point in time that either this is
developed or this connection is made, that there not be a medical or any other type of
business allowed in there, because my wife has almost been killed, I have almost been
hit numerous times getting in and out of their and until -- only until a bona fide, safe
egress and ingress is accomplished -- until that time I think that it's just asking for
somebody to get killed out there.
Nary: So that I'm clear, sir, what you want is us to make the condition that says that
before they can begin -- before they get a certificate to occupy this building, this has to
be opened. Because once this is opened, no one is going to drive down your street to
go to the back.
Reiswig: That's correct.
Nary: Okay. All right.
Corrie: Thank you. Is the testimony you are about to give the truth, the whole truth, and
nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Butler: It is.
Corrie: Name and address, please.
Butler: JoAnn Butler, 251 East Front Street. Just a short response to the person that
was just up here to testify before the Council. As you know, the ACHD has made a
finding for the city that the safety on the access presently on Eagle is safe and I think
that's correct, that testimony is best directed to ACHD, perhaps, but your staff report
does show that the ACHD has approved that access point and so we would be opposed
to any condition of approval that would limit this. And, also, as Mr. Hall has pointed out
on behalf of the neighbors, the exact access point has not yet been determined,
because that will be determined with all the neighbors and St. Luke's. Thank you.
Corrie: Thank you.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: I just have a question. So, ACHD has said that access out onto Eagle is
safe?
Butler: Correct. I think that in your staff -- I mean they have approved that access point.
I don't know that they have said that, but they certainly did approve that.
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De Weerd: Okay.
Nary: It is hard to get in and out of there.
Corrie: Yes, ma'am. Is the testimony you are about to give the truth, the whole truth, and
nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Griffith: Yes. My name is Tricia Griffith, 3295 North Montvue Drive in Meridian. I just
want to say that we never had a chance to make any kind of comments to ACHD and
neither did St. Luke's or Montvue, so, you know, I guess I really don't understand the
procedure, but before the road is built and -- they have on there private. I would like to
make sure -- we wanted it to be public to St. Luke's Road and so I think that discussion
hasn't been brought up and, like I said, we never got a chance to make any kind of
comments to ACHD on that, so -- so I hope -- you know, what they are talking about
tonight, it doesn't have the discussion about -- regarding the road.
Corrie: Okay. If I'm understanding this correctly, all we are going to do is annex into the
city. We are not doing any site plans or anything like that.
Griffith: Right. And that's what I just wanted to make sure --
Corrie: And you will get notified when they do this when it comes before Council.
Griffith: Right. Yeah. But I'm saying, you know, if ACHD said that the Montvue entrance
was a safe place, you know, we never had a chance to make comments regarding that
with ACHD, so --
Corrie: Okay.
Griffith: Okay. Thanks.
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
Nary: Mrs. Griffith. And I don't know if you can answer this or not, but I sat through a lot
of hearings on this Comprehensive Plan and I seem to recall on the Montvue Sub, every
time that was brought forward it was brought as a -- from all the property owners that
there was a collective desire to make this commercial, to collectively sell this, so what
happened, where did it die?
Griffith: Oh, we don't have a problem with that.
Nary: Oh.
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Griffith: What I'm talking about is if we are going to -- if we are not going to discuss
about the road, I don't have a problem. You know, I just want to make sure that the
connection is public to St. Luke's Road.
Nary: I understand. I guess I kept thinking when we were going to see something from
Montvue Sub it was some large group development, some large property development.
I guess that's not -- not in the offing today?
Griffith: Well, I wish someone would come in. If you know somebody, we'd welcome
that.
Nary: I think that's what you guys told us. That's why I --
Griffith: Well, we are hoping.
Nary: One little piece of it. That's what I guess thought was --
Griffith: Well, we were hoping and there was several buyers, but it took us awhile to -- to
come up with an agreement and stuff, so they kind of went other places. But we are still
looking.
Nary: Thank you.
Corrie: Is there anyone else to issue testimony?
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, I have a question of staff, if I may.
Corrie: Okay. Mr. Nichols.
Nichols: Brad, with the -- if the annexation and zoning is approved with conditions, as
recommended by the Commission, will there need to be any kind of hearings in front of
ACHD if they want to put up a building that complies with that limited office zoning that
they seek?
Hawkins-Clark: Mr. Mayor, Mr. Nichols. No. The staff report that I have in the public
record is -- states that the commission did hold a hearing February 19th, 2003, at noon.
There was a tech review meeting that was held February 7th and, then, a hearing
February 19th at noon. But to get to the specifics of your question, no, if it moves ahead
as the P&Z Commission has before you, an office type of use would strictly be a
building permit process. We would forward a copy of our certificate of zoning
compliance application to the Highway District, who, in turn, typically, just applies their
conditions that were put on the annexation. But there is not at that point, typically,
hearing at the Highway District.
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Nichols: Okay. Just so that we understand, the things that we have seen up here that
shows a private road and the rest of it, that's merely concepts and they are binding on
the developer as such?
Hawkins-Clark: That's correct. The wording is -- on number three of the conditions does
say that the agreement, referring to the development agreement, may require
construction similar to the site plan offered. So, I guess that's as much a call of yours as
not, I mean whether or not we can put those kind of specific conditions on an
annexation, that -- if you agree with the zoning and you believe that the L-O zone
standards and dimensions are adequate as they are in our ordinance today, typically,
we have said let's not require conditional use permits, etc., in the future, because we
think that the L-O zone standards and dimensions are adequate. But I think that there is
a legitimate place -- there is a development agreement process to add additional
conditions should you desire.
Corrie: I feel something coming on here.
Butler: Thank you. JoAnn Butler. Just to react to that. This is an annexation and a
rezone and we -- as staff has pointed out and P&Z as recommended to the Council, we
do meet all the conditions for annexation and rezone. So, this would not be a conditional
rezone, which is not something that we have in Idaho, so I think that I just wanted to
address that public street. I wouldn't expect to see it as a condition. We do know that
the neighbors have wanted this public street access. The developer of this property, if
this actual access lines up in this area, if all the neighbors should agree, they are
certainly not opposed to that. And if anyone can persuade ACHD that that's appropriate,
you know, they are not opposed to it. We just don't -- we just know what ACHD has told
us and the city so far is that they do not want to see it as public. But, like I say, if the
neighbors are successful as a group in asking ACHD -- getting their approval on a
public, we will be more than happy with that. Thank you.
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
Nary: Ms. Butler. So, I guess what I'm wondering, then, is it sounds like we only have a
couple of options. I mean we can access this property. Would your client, then, be
opposed to us annexing this property and putting a zone that required all uses on it
require a Conditional Use Permit?
Butler: Oh, yes, I guess we would. I think that --
Nary: But we can still do that.
Butler: If you wanted to change the application. In essence, you have an application for
an annexation and rezone to L-O and findings that show that L-O would meet the
Comprehensive Plan. If you -- you would either -- I think you would either deny the L-O
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for some reason that -- saying that it somehow didn't meet your findings. But to change
the -- I guess -- I don't think you're asking if we wanted to change the application to
some different conditional use --
Nary: Well, all I'm hearing, I guess, from the other testimony is the concern about,
again, increasing the traffic, increasing the travel through Montvue. What their concerns
is -- and I think what I heard Mr. Hawkins-Clark say is that if we approve this as
requested, they can build this building and begin -- and open this business and if the
private agreements fall through and nothing ever happens, they won't have access onto
St. Luke's Drive, they will have to drive all the way through Montvue Subdivision to get
to this building until that happens some day or the street the other direction gets built
through or something -- I mean it sounds pretty sketchy to me, so I guess --
Butler: Let me see if I can make it less sketchy, then.
Nary: Okay.
Butler: Because this was discussed a great deal at the Planning and Zoning
Commission and there were a great more neighbors at that time that testified, because
the Planning and Zoning Commissioners asked many of these questions at the same
time and asked what were the neighbors thinking. This annexation and rezone that was
proposed, ACHD reviewed and said the capacity -- the streets, both in Montvue and on
Eagle were appropriate and that the use was not going to -- they could approve it as is
and that your staff report shows that. You do have an individual here tonight that has
some concerns that was not the concerns of the neighbors who -- at the Planning and
Zoning Commission said that they agreed with -- I don't want to put words in their
mouth, but they understood that, yes, that's how traffic would come into this area if one
of the other two connections was not made or if both those connections are not made.
We have no plan to build at this time. So, that has not been an issue and let me not
forget some of the other issues that you had. So, I think you have the issue was the
connection from Montvue a problem? No. The neighbors testified to the P&Z that we
have -- our desire is to get this -- get it commercial. The city saw fit to make it
commercial in its Comprehensive Plan and that's exactly what this application does. It
supports that concept that -- the Comprehensive Plan and the neighbors' perspective.
When they talk -- you know, I think you also have an issue about the public road
connection to St. Luke's. Clearly, whether it's public or private, the connection is the
same. I mean, obviously, traffic is going to pass over it in the same fashion. So, it will be
cloaked with either way. So, we are just saying that -- and which we have said the
neighbors, too, and said -- invited their attorney to make sure there was an easement
agreement in place, so at least they had the private connection, but either way, public,
private, the same traffic will pass over it. We are just saying that if they really see a
need to make it public and can convince ACHD for some reason having it public, versus
private -- actually, I don't see the difference, because I think opening it will allow the
traffic to flow through either way. So, I hope that answers your question and makes it a
little --
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Nary: Thank you.
Butler: Okay. Thank you.
Corrie: I don't want to get in a debate here. If you have got something new to add, come
up, if you want to come up, but, otherwise, I'm not going to get into a back and forth
thing here, so -- just your name and address. Name, please.
Reiswig: Don Reiswig. 3360 North Montvue. And I don't want to get into it either, I just
want to make it very clear I was at the P&Z meeting and the plan that we saw at the
P&Z meeting -- and if you talk to the people from Planning and Zoning, that their
impression was that this road would line up with the St. Luke's access directly across
and at the P&Z meeting this lady said that we are not here to talk about whether --
about the placement of the road, it's strictly about annexing and changing this to an L-O
zone. With going -- if this is -- in the master plan it's designed as commercial and
commercial, my understanding, is that we have to have a Public Hearing and
Conditional Use Permit application. With an L-O zoning there is nothing. They can walk
in there tomorrow and get a building permit. So, I want to make -- I just wanted to clarify
that there was -- that limited understanding on this previous application in front of P&Z
and the staff at that time recommended to the Planning and Zoning Commission to not
pass it at that particular night.
Corrie: Okay. Thank you.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: I guess I will make a couple of comments while the Public Hearing is still
open. When we get requests for annexation, generally, a plan accompanies it and the
benefit of that is that we get all the information at the same time, we can make a
determination that this, indeed, will be a benefit to our community. It gives the residents
an opportunity to see what that benefit will be and an ability to comment on issues that
will affect them. We did, indeed, say limited office does not have some of the traditional
affects that most uses that we require a CUP, so that neighbors can comment are
generally not an issue. But that this has issues associated with it and it is an issue of
access and while I am very pleased to hear that St. Luke's and the neighbors have
come up with some kind of agreement and there will be an access, there still seems to
be road blocks to that -- sorry for the pun. But by creating an office complex in the
middle of the neighborhood that, in my opinion -- and I'm not a traffic engineer, but I
would not want to be going in and out of that Montvue Subdivision onto Eagle and I
certainly don't want to create a situation where that limited office building is built before
some of these access issues onto this St. Luke's Road or into Touchmark happen
beforehand, I'm not going to be responsibility for that and I can't support it, without the
conditions that the access issues are taken care of and if those conditions can be put in
a development agreement, that's great. We can do this. Traditionally, this Council does
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not like to annex without a plan. And there is very good reasons for that and this
underscores all of those reasons. So, that's just where one Council member stands on
this and I did it in the Public Hearing, so -- Ms. Butler, I know, always has a comment,
we can accept that.
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
Nary: And I will, I guess, add one other thing, I guess. I would concur with what
Councilwoman de Weerd said. If this -- Brad, could you back up to the -- I guess it was
-- this one is fine. If we didn't have this access point here, in my opinion, we would never
approve this. We would never approve the business development of this subdivision this
far away from this major roadway and having all the access in and out of here. That's
what I think. I don't think we would ever approve it. So, without this connection, there is
no way we would ever approve it. This isn't done. I'm not sure -- I guess I'm not ready to
approve this knowing that this isn't completed and that the potential is that this can get
built, developed, open for business and all of the traffic is in and out of here. ACHD may
have said that this entranceway is safe -- safe is different than accessible. Every one of
these people came and told us how inaccessible their homes are now. I can't see
having any business bringing additional traffic through here is going to make better than
what it currently exists. So, until that -- until I have more assurance that this access
point is going to be there, I'm very uncomfortable approving this as it is.
Butler: JoAnn Butler, 251 East Front Street. For Councilmember de Weerd and
Councilmember Nary, this has -- made the comment that you would not make this
annexation and zoning, because somehow you would feel responsible and somehow
you're saying you would never make this annexation and rezoning request. Let me try to
back up and ask you, I guess, why. Partly because this is on a public street and we do
know that this is the first of the rezone in compliance with the Comprehensive Plan that
all of the neighbors in this area have asked for. This is -- it has to start somewhere. It
has to start somewhere. And ACHD -- and, of course, you're not responsible. ACHD has
made the determination that the capacity is such that this is -- this is can be appropriate.
And so I think that is your traffic engineer that's provided you with that information. I
appreciate your -- although I appreciate the thoughts, I know that we have to get started
somewhere and let me also say that there is a development agreement. Your conditions
of approval require a development agreement and where the P&Z seemed -- well, sorry,
on the other staff -- on the other slide that shows the plan. Can you put that up for me,
Brad? What the P&Z recommended was that this be part of the development
agreement, because they are very much aware that the Council likes to know, so that
the neighbors know what is proposed for the site. So, this is part of the development
agreement. Your condition of approval said that the only thing that would not be part of
a development agreement is the issue of this private drive. The P&Z really talked a
great deal about the fact that there are private agreements and there are public
decisions and the two don't cross each other. When -- you have your standards that you
have to meet with regard to annexation and zoning and we have complied with that. In
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addition, the neighbors and St. Luke's -- and we are now one of those neighbors,
because we have purchased the property and so we take subject to the agreement with
St. Luke's and the easement that has been placed on the property. So, those private
agreements are in place, but they have nothing to do with -- or are separate from the
public decision that you make based on your findings and facts and conditions and your
findings and facts and those criteria set out in the ordinance. And so I would have to ask
the Council -- we see no -- no criteria that we don't meet and so if you were to not
approve the annexation and zoning, we'd ask you to be very clear what standards we
don't meet. But I would not -- just so I could be as cut and dried as that, I mean if there
is something else that I can -- that's not being explained to the Council and we can do a
better job of it, please, ask those questions.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: I guess I was clear in my own mind what my points were and that is land use
and transportation planning are closely linked and I know we are not the road authority,
but we are responsible for public safety and we have a responsibility to our community
not to plan for a catastrophe. And, I'm sorry, I really strongly believe that if we do this
and it's allowed without a Public Hearing to be developed, without those accesses being
resolved, either out into Touchmark or whatever it's called now, or down into St. Luke's,
that we are not serving the public trust that has been placed upon us and that is on the
safety of our community and, I will tell you what, no one cares whether it was our
decision or ACHD's, I know who will get the phone and it will be the man sitting to the
left of me and I don't think it's a phone call he wants to get and it's certainly not one that
I want to promote.
Butler: Mr. Mayor, Council Members, and Councilmember de Weerd, as you know, that
this is discussion is -- in essence, has been resolved, because St. Luke's and the
neighbors have signed an agreement that will allow an access either to Touchmark or
somewhere along this line. So, all that remains is for them to decide exactly where it is.
So, an access will be made, and so I think that the private parties have basically taken
that decision -- made that decision for the City Council. I mean they have said we are
going to provide an access in one of two places, either through the Touchmark
development or along this line. We would love to see it right here and we will probably
ask the neighbors to push for that, but one of two things they are going to decide and so
I think that decision has been made, you have got two recorded agreements that point
that out.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: Just to finish up my comments is I -- and I appreciate that St. Luke's and the
neighbors have been able to reach the agreement. It's still an issue of timing and the
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timing is the issue that is of concern to me. I know how long this fight has been going on
-- or this -- how long the negotiations for this agreement have taken and it's been a
lengthy process. That could be in well -- years before we get where that access is going
to be or when Touchmark goes into it. So, we could annex and rezone this and say a
building cannot be built until those agreements are made. I think that would solve my
concerns, because, then, at least I know that they are not going to be going onto Eagle
Road through the only available access of today. And so, you know -- and I don't have a
problem with tying it to this -- to this drawing and with those conditions. All I'm saying
you told us you did not want those conditions on there. Without those conditions on
there I certainly do not feel comfortable approving that today.
Butler: Well, Mr. Mayor, Councilwoman, if -- I can't speak for my client as I stand here. If
you don't mind if I confer with my client just a moment.
Corrie: Let me ask you a question to be clear in my mind. If the -- an entrance is put in
to Touchmark, you will not put in that road that connects there to St. Luke's Drive?
Butler: I believe that the agreement between St. Luke's and the neighbors calls for one
access point.
Corrie: So if we say put it in there, that that will be the connection, then, you will not put
in the one at Touchmark?
Butler: First of all, this is a private agreement -- that would be a private agreement that
you would be talking about between St. Luke's and the neighbors and I think they would
-- the neighbors would probably balk at the city saying you must put it in X place,
because --
Corrie: No, I'm not saying that.
Butler: Oh. Okay.
Corrie: If we -- the way I'm reading this, we are working on a time issue, like Mrs. de
Weerd said. If we pass this without any condition other than the L-O, you don't have to
come back to us and if you put it for a Conditional Use Permit --
Butler: Correct.
Corrie: Then, if you -- tomorrow you put it in and the road to Touchmark isn't put in for a
year and a half, that's what we are talking about. We -- how do we get those people in
there. So, we need to have some kind of surety on the time and, personally, I'm like they
are, I would like to see that road put in and I'd like to see both of them put in. I mean
that's -- I don't know what the neighbors are saying, but we got to have some kind of
surety that that doesn't go in there tomorrow, because it could.
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Butler: Well, Mr. Mayor, I did hear that and if you would allow -- if the Council would
allow a short -- maybe a recess to confer with my client for just a moment.
Corrie: Okay. Go ahead.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: It might be appropriate to have a --
Corrie: Let's just have a ten minute break and, then, we will come back at 20 minutes to
9:00.
(Recess.)
Corrie: All right. I will come out of recess on the Public Hearing on Montvue Medical
Clinic. And Ms. Butler.
Butler: Mr. Mayor, City Council Members, as we took this recess and we discussed this
with our client's representatives -- our clients aren't here right now tonight, we would ask
-- and also in talking to the city attorney, it's clear that the Council hasn't had the
opportunity to review those recorded settlement agreement and the easement and we
would like the Council to have that opportunity. We would also like to directly talk with
our client. So, if we could ask deferral to your next available hearing, so that you have
that opportunity and we do, too, and we can discuss this further at that time.
Corrie: Would May the 6th be okay?
Butler: May the 6th sounds fine.
Corrie: Council, you have heard the request of Council.
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
Nary: I would move that we continue the Public Hearing on AZ 03-004, the request for
annexation and zoning for Montvue Medical Clinic to our May 6, 2003, meeting.
McCandless: Second.
Corrie: Motion has been made and seconded to continue this Public Hearing until 5/6 of
2003. Any further comments? All those in favor of the motion say aye. All ayes. Motion
carried.
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MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 14: Continued Public Hearing from April 8, 2003: Dust Abatement
Ordinance:
Corrie: Item No. 14 is a continued Public Hearing from April the 8th, 2003, Dust
Abatement Ordinance, and we do have a letter from one of the -- David McKinnon that
he would like to continue this and to kind of get everything tied up in a package with the
rest of the Treasure Valley, so I would -- perhaps we can make that one come in, then,
on the 13th, Brad, of May. All right.
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move we continue the Public Hearing for the Dust Abatement Ordinance until
May 13th, 2003.
Nary: Second.
Corrie: Okay. Motion has been made and seconded. Any further discussion? Hearing
none, all those in favor say aye. Opposed no? All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 15: TE 03-002
Request to allow a one year Time Extension for Conditional
Baltic Place Subdivision
Use Permit for by Pinnacle Engineers, Inc. –
south of Franklin Road and Baltic Street:
Corrie: Item No. 15 is a request to allow a one year time extension for a Conditional Use
Permit for Baltic Place Subdivision by Pinnacle Engineers, Inc., south of Franklin Road
and Baltic Street. Staff got any comments?
Hawkins-Clark: Mr. Mayor, I guess the only comment I would make is that the -- there
was a variance, as you may recall, that was approved for the plat, so just not to confuse
the Council and Mayor, that it is a different request than what we heard two months ago.
The conditional use permits have 18 months to begin construction and the plats have
the 12 month time frame attached to them, so there is a different ordinance that we are
dealing with, so that's just a clarification point there. Other than that, you should have
the March 28 request from Clint Boyle of Pinnacle Engineers that outlines the ACHD
issue there.
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
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Nary: So, Brad, I guess the bottom line, this one is -- the other issue wasn't timely, this
one is timely, because of the longer time period that's allowed and I didn't see any
objection to this from staff.
Hawkins-Clark: That's correct.
Nary: Great. Thank you.
Corrie: Any comments, Clint?
De Weerd: He agrees.
Corrie: Okay. Let the record show that the Pinnacle Engineers representative agrees,
so I will entertain a motion for the extension.
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move that we approve the one year time extension until May 1st, 2004, for the
Conditional Use Permit for Baltic Place Subdivision by Pinnacle Engineers, south of
Franklin Road and Baltic Street.
Nary: Second.
Corrie: Okay. Any further discussion? All those in favor say aye. All ayes. Motion
carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 16: FP 03-016
Request for Final Plat approval of 41 building lots and 10 other
Baldwin Park No. 3
lots on 15.01 acres in an R-8 zone for by Capitol
Development – ¼ mile south of McMillan Road, east of Linder Road:
Corrie: Item No. 16 is a request for final plat approval of 41 building lots and ten other
lots on 15.1 acres in an R-8 zone for Baldwin Park No. 3 by Capital Development, one
quarter mile south of McMillan Road, east of Linder Road. Staff comments.
Hawkins-Clark: Thank you, Mayor, Members of the Council. The third phase of Baldwin
is here before you. The screen shows phase one that has already been recorded.
Phase three -- phase two is north of the phase that's shown there. Phase three is further
to the east and connects here with phase one and the staff report that was, actually,
dated today, that's just showing the hearing date, is what those dates are showing now,
just in case you're kind of wondering why they show the current date. It was received by
the clerk's office on the 11th. There is a couple of items just to clarify. We have received
a written response from Steve Arnold of Briggs Engineering responding to our
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recommended conditions. The main one to point out is item number eight, site specific
condition A, 8-A, that deals with the Colorado spruce that they are proposing within their
landscape median. Again, the entry road is on the north portion of the plat here and they
have two planter islands. Phase one was approved with these conifers. Our landscape
ordinance does, actually, prohibit conifers within required street buffer areas, for
obvious reasons. Some of those conifers get up to 30 feet wide and can be a hazard.
The Colorado Spruce -- we received a letter from Eagle Nursery -- design manager at
Eagle Nursery, Jason Aire, he states that the Engleman Spruce, actually, is ten to 20
feet wide and is probably the narrowest within that family. It gets to around ten to 12 feet
wide. So, within a 25 foot wide planter -- their point is that the evergreens are not going
to cause any kind of hazard at maturity. I guess the point on this is that we -- it's not a
required landscape area. These medians are put in at the option of developers. I think,
technically, since it's not a required landscape area, if it's deemed to be safe, we are
okay under the ordinance to approve these. Phase one was approved with them. Their
argument is that it's just a continuation of the plan and style that they have already
established within their entry corridor. So, I think as long as the Colorado Spruce is
prohibited and this Engleman is the one that is approved with the plan, that there is no
safety issues involved in terms of the width of the tree. I think that was really the main
issue. There was a clarification on fencing on the south side. The White Drain does abut
the south side of this phase and they will just continue their perimeter fencing along the
residential lots all along the drain. There is agreement that they will put the shorter
fence along the common lot that is running north and south here for our standard
micropath conditions. That's it. Thanks.
Corrie: Questions from staff?
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
Nary: Brad, because I can't remember what the other phases are, did you say this is a
micropath right here? Is that what that is?
Hawkins-Clark: Yes. Well, technically, it's not a micropath in that it's greater than 250
feet long, so --
Nary: So, it's a macro micropath.
Hawkins-Clark: But, yes, they are proposing a five foot wide path in there.
Nary: And is this a street here?
Hawkins-Clark: They are both pedestrian only.
Nary: So, where does this path go, just right here and these people's back yard?
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Hawkins-Clark: Yes. That's correct.
Nary: Okay. That's what the other phase is? Because I don't remember. I'm sorry. I just
don't remember. Is that -- is that in the other phases like that, too?
Hawkins-Clark: It is.
Corrie: Any other questions? Okay. Is the applicant here? Nothing to say, other than the
request --
Arnold: I will stand for questions, if you need them.
Corrie: Okay. So, just repeat what you just said.
Arnold: Steve Arnold, Briggs Engineering. I'm here representing Capital Development.
With staff's comments, we are in support of the staff report and we will stand for any
questions.
Corrie: Okay. Thank you.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: I just wanted to ask a question on the micropath, because I don't remember
it either. It's going to be paved?
Arnold: The north-south one?
De Weerd: Uh-huh.
Arnold: Yeah. There will be a pathway within it.
De Weerd: And, then, a fence on both sides?
Arnold: Correct.
De Weerd: And it goes clear up to the property line, so there is no landscaping on either
side?
Arnold: It's a 20 foot wide island. It will be a five foot wide pathway.
De Weerd: And what goes on each side?
Arnold: I believe that developer is putting in some grass and some rock to retain
drainage. That was a comment that's on one of your staff reports.
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De Weerd: Okay. Brad, have we -- do we have standards for that, so some of the issues
of roots pushing asphalt up and those kind of things have -- do we have anything to kind
of deal with standards on these micropaths?
Hawkins-Clark: Mayor and Councilwoman de Weerd, we have no adopted design
standards in the zoning ordinance or subdivision ordinance at this point in time. The
parks department in their master comp plan, which is yet to be adopted, does have
three different types for the public pathway system that talk about widths of the hard
surface and the landscaping on both sides, but in a subdivision where they are
providing their open space and the design issue certainly will come up and we do have
a condition in their preliminary plat that talks about the drainage can't come off and
settle at the bottom of these fences that are along both sides of that 20 foot open space.
You know, they are going to have to be shorter fences. So, the preliminary plat does put
a few conditions on the design of these, but in terms of adopted ordinances, no, we
don't, other than our -- just a micropath, which, like I say, is just 250 feet, it's just
intended to sort of connect two streets or to connect two subdivisions or to connect to a
school, but in a longer linear open space like this, it's really just case-by-case in terms of
the design standards.
Corrie: That brings up a question. Is that going to be turned over to the homeowners,
then, after it's in, that they have to keep it up?
Arnold: They will maintain that pathway.
Corrie: Okay.
Arnold: If I can follow up on some of the comments. My client is the same client that did
Bristol Heights. They are -- I don't know if you're familiar with that. They have extensive
pathways throughout there and I know that from their experience there that they are
going to make sure that whatever planting that's put in there doesn't hinder or reduce
the micropath or the longevity. So, you're not going to get roots pushing things up.
De Weerd: Thank you, Steve.
Corrie: That's good, because we don't want to get complaints later. Thank you. Okay.
Any other Council questions? Okay. I will entertain a motion on the request for final plat
approval of Baldwin Park No. 3 with the conditions.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: I move we approve the request for final plat of 41 building lots and ten other
lots on 15.01 acres in an R-8 zone for Baldwin Park No. 3 by Capital Development, to --
I think there was an issue on item number 8-A, to just add the -- to prohibit conifers, but
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allow the Engleman Spruce trees and to ask the attorney draw of up Findings of Facts
and Conclusions of Law and Decision of Order.
Nary: Second.
De Weerd: Oh, Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: If we can note the date of the final plat, just for a reference point.
Hawkins-Clark: It is the one submitted with the application. March 14, '03.
De Weerd: Thank you.
Corrie: Okay. Motion has been made and seconded to approve the final plat with the
conditions as noted. Any further discussion? Hearing none, roll-call vote, Mr. Berg.
Roll-Call: McCandless, yea; Nary, yea; de Weerd, yea; Bird, yea.
Corrie: All ayes. Request for final plat of Baldwin Park No. 3 is approved with
conditions.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 17: Public Hearing: AZ 02-031
Request for annexation and zoning of 39.05
Castlebrook Subdivision No.
acres from RUT to R-8 zones for proposed
2
by Crestline Development, LLC – 4000 West Pine Avenue, east of North
Black Cat Road and south of West Cherry Lane:
Item 18: Public Hearing: PP 02-032
Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 150
building lots and 9 other lots on 39.05 acres in a proposed R-8 zone for
Castlebrook Subdivision No. 2
proposed by Crestline Development,
LLC – 4000 West Pine Avenue, east of North Black Cat Road and south of
West Cherry Lane:
Item 19: Public Hearing: VAR 03-005
Request for a Variance to allow certain
blocks to exceed 1000 foot maximum length and certain block lengths to
Castlebrook Subdivision No. 2
be less than 500 foot minimum for by
Crestline Development, LLC – 4000 West Pine Avenue, east of North
Black Cat Road and south of West Cherry Lane:
Corrie: Item No. 17, 18, and 19 are public hearings. Item No. 17 is a request for
annexation and zoning of 39.05 acres from RUT to R-8 zones for proposed Castlebrook
Subdivision No. 2 by Crestline Development, LLC, 4000 West Pine Avenue, east of
North Black Cat Road and south of West Cherry Lane. Item No. 18 is a Public Hearing,
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request for preliminary plat approval of 150 building lots and nine other lots on 39.05
acres in a proposed R-8 zone for proposed Castlebrook Subdivision No. 2 by the same
development company. And Item 19 is a Public Hearing, request for a variance to allow
certain blocks to exceed the thousand foot maximum length and certain block lengths to
be less than 500 foot minimum for Castlebrook Subdivision No. 2. So, if -- hearing no
objections, I will open the Public Hearing on all three public hearings, 17, 18, and 19 to
hear testimony on all three at one time and, then, we will take them separately as we
vote. So, I will open the public hearings and invite staff's comments.
Hawkins-Clark: Mayor, Members of the Council, on the first item, the annexation and
zoning request, they are proposing an R-8 zone. Castlebrook Subdivision No. 1 does
abut to the west, which has frontage on North Black Cat Road. That also has an R-8.
The access to this Castlebrook No. 2 would be taken off of an extension on El Gato,
which is in general alignment with Pine further to the east. The Parkside Creek
Subdivision and Western Ada County Recreation District's Fuller Park are on the north
side. That is an R-4 zone. All the other properties that surround to the east and the
south are still in Ada County and have the RUT. The Comprehensive Plan has this
whole area as medium density residential and the R-8 request does fit with that. On the
next item, the request for the preliminary plat -- and, again the subdivision is proposed
to take access off of El Gato at a single point. They do have Ten Mile Creek that runs
along the entire north boundary and, again, the public park is on the north side of Ten
Mile Creek. They are proposing 150 building lots. They have 6,500 square foot
minimums. There is not a planned development application associated with this
subdivision, so they are proposing to conform to our R-8 minimum standards, 65 foot
frontages, 6,500 square foot lots. The request initially of staff was made to create a
connection internally here. They, originally, had just a large single block in here. That
modification was made to provide better circulation internal to the subdivision.
Castlebrook 1 was approved with just a single stub street and, of course, they are
proposing to extend that into -- into this subdivision. The Planning and Zoning
Commission made a recommendation on the plat to have a five foot wide asphalt
pathway constructed along the north, the Nampa-Meridian Irrigation District lot and this
is fee simple ownership by Nampa-Meridian, it's not an easement. The applicant's
property line does stop at the Nampa-Meridian south boundary there of that Ten Mile
Creek separate ownership there. However, the recommendation was for them to get a
license agreement to do that. They are also proposing some kind of a bridge connection
that is -- that would provide access from their subdivision to the park and that's item
number one on the recommendation on page two and the one change I would suggest
to that is on the last sentence, talking about when the pathway and the culvert, which is
what Nampa-Meridian Irrigation District has, I understand, recommended to the
applicant is the culvert instead, that those -- currently it says it should be constructed
prior to the sale of any lots adjacent to the pathway. I'd recommend that we change that
to prior to the first certificate of occupancy of any lots within that phase. I think, you
know, there is -- it's a little bit vague in there in terms of when -- I guess the question is if
they are unable to get the license agreement, which is a different time frame, that's,
actually, required prior to signature of the final plat of the first phase. So, obviously,
that's going to dictate quite a bit. The license agreement with Nampa-Meridian is going
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to have to be submitted to the city engineer prior to the city's signature. I guess it
somewhat depends on what that license agreement states. You know, we need to -- we
have had a request from Nampa-Meridian to release funding that we have had for three
years for Thousand Springs for bridges that were approved as part of Thousand Springs
across the Ridenbaugh Canal. That's never happened, so the applicant's wanting to
receive their money -- their surety back from the Highway District, because no
agreement was ever reached. Obviously, this is a little bit different than the Ridenbaugh
in terms of volume and size, but I think it's still a concern as to when we are going to get
that connection and, frankly, if there can't be an access across there to the park, I think
that we would like to see more discussion happen. I think that's a -- part of the density,
you know, that we are supporting that comes because they do have access to the park
across the Ten Mile. I think it's still important to clarify that first condition as to when --
when the path and culvert are actually constructed. The phasing plan that was
submitted, generally, they are proposing to start here on the western half, come down,
take in just kind of the frontage of the large open lot here and, then, come down on the
east side of the entry drive. So, that would, obviously, include building the pathway up to
this park in terms of phase one improvements and, then, the balance of it would come in
when their final plat for phase two for this western -- or this eastern half comes through.
I think the last comment I would make relates to item four on page three, talking about
the fencing plan. I think you probably would best -- the condition would best go in the
annexation -- it could go in both, but that we add that an open vision fence or a four foot
solid fence be constructed along all of these lots on the north boundary adjacent to the
pathway and I understand that Mr. Amar is looking at a four foot vinyl, so I think we just
would like to get that onto the -- into the conditions, so that we can -- our building
department can inform those property owners when they come through that they are
restricted on those fences.
Nichols: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nichols.
Nichols: Brad, is there anything in the conditions or in the discussion about those fences
that front that large open space lot -- or not front, but the back lines of those? Has there
been any discussion about the height of those fences?
Hawkins-Clark: Right. Mr. Mayor, Mr. Nichols, the landscape -- or the subdivision
ordinance only deals with fencing adjacent to micropaths. So, any additional fencing
restrictions that the city wants to place would have to be put, you know, as separate
conditions, because the ordinance doesn't address it. But the recommendation does
not, it simply deals with the fencing next to the micropaths and, then, the one I just
added deals with the pathway along the Ten Mile Creek. But I think that's a good point,
that you have got that green open space that would also -- but I think in other
subdivisions they have gone with four foot -- four foot maximum around that open area.
And, then, the last item deals with the variance request and staff has to apologize, we
did not prepare a written staff report on this. That kind of got by us. But to tell you what
their application is proposing, the red arrows are pointing to blocks that are greater than
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a thousand feet in length. The black ones are pointing to blocks that are shorter than
500. Certainly, Block 4, which is on the north -- Parkside Creek did not provide any stub
streets and you have got the Ten Mile that has, obvious, restrictions in terms of
vehicular access. So, that's a pretty clearcut case for a variance. The shorter block
lengths are ones that as we have talked about in past hearings that Council is
supportive of and probably should be removed from the ordinance. They do have a little
bit of a design constriction in that they have the Ten Mile and El Gato. The other two
block lengths that are longer could be taken care of if they provided two access points
off of El Gato. They basically say in the variance application that that's an esthetic --
that's the only main argument is that it's esthetic, so they can get one point of access
and provide, you know, a visual corridor into their open space area, which is good
planning and makes sense. I don't think that they meet the finding that says that the
hardship is not created by them. I mean, certainly, providing two points of access off of
El Gato would eliminate the southern two block lengths being -- exceeding a thousand
feet, but I would request the applicant address that, I guess, during their testimony.
Corrie: Thank you, Brad. Any questions of staff at this point? The representative of
Castlebrook. Is the testimony you are about to give the Council the truth, the whole
truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Amar: Yes, sir. Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council Members. For the record, my name
is Kevin Amar, address 114 East Idaho, Suite 230, here in Meridian. I will be as brief as
I possibly can. With respect to the staff comments and the recommended conditions of
approval that were placed on us by the Planning and Zoning Commission, we have no
disagreements or no questions about those. We are in agreement with all of those
conditions of approval. So, unless you have questions of those I won't address those
further. What I will address is some of the comments related to the subdivision, the
design, the pathway, and the variance request as we see here tonight. The subdivision
itself, as was noted, has 150 lots. When we did Castlebrook phase one -- or subdivision
number one -- I think it was last September, at that time this property owner -- upon that
approval this property owner approached us. When we looked at this property and in
speaking with that property owner, also with Nampa-Meridian Irrigation District, he does,
in fact, own this property and it was determined that we could provide a pretty nice
pathway -- obviously, this pathway is going to be owned and maintained by the
homeowners association, it's not something that we are looking to have the city
maintain in any way. But also looking at this bank that is along here and, typically, these
drains can be somewhat of a sight nuisance. The Irrigation District will maintain it
enough for them to drive up and down it, but as far as weeds growing or, actually, what
it looks like, they burn it once in the spring. I'm sure you're all aware of what they do.
What we talked to Bill Henson and John Anderson of Nampa-Meridian Irrigation District
about is providing the pathway in here, landscaping this, and maintained by the private
homeowners association and, then, this pathway -- the actual pathway along this
portion would be offset enough for vehicular traffic from Nampa-Meridian Irrigation
District to still travel up and down that without -- with their track vehicles and things of
that nature, without tearing up that pathway. Any damages that is done to the
landscaping, that's something we will deal with and we, being the homeowners
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association, will maintain it. But that provides something of the esthetics to the
subdivision that all these neighbors back up to something that looks nice, rather than a
weed distraction and a fence with weeds growing along it that may or may not be
maintained. With respect to the culvert, we initially proposed a bridge. At that point
Nampa-Meridian Irrigation District asked that we make it a culvert. We will do a culvert
and it will still look like a bridge for all intents and purposes, but less maintenance for
the Nampa-Meridian Irrigation District. We have no issue with that. With respect to the
block lengths, this project -- initially when we had this project -- and on the variance this
Block 9 was also in the variance requested, it did exceed the thousand foot maximum.
When I initially did this, there was a cul-de-sac at this point. It was requested by staff
that we punch that road through creating this block to be too short and this block still to
be too long. Prior to that this block was extremely long. In doing that, we requested
these three blocks to be granted a variance for the minimum block length and, then, the
rest of them, with the exception of this one -- I think it's easier to show the rest of them
and point out which ones those are -- to have a maximum block length variance
granted. Our desire is to bring one street in and that's street be a collector. As you can
see, there is some center islands and one point of entrance into this subdivision, still
providing, however, that the secondary access that will be required by the fire
department. And on our phase one we will actually include this point of access and this
point of access will not be developed until Castlebrook Subdivision No. 1, phase
number two, is built and approved and the connectivity is there. So, our desire is to
have one point of access. We did go over with your staff, Dave McKinnon, on two points
of access and at that time it was determined that by all parties that it's a better visual
effect to have that one point of access, safer for all the parties involved, keeping more
traffic off of -- which will be in the future a very main road extending from -- well, I guess
in the future it would extend into Boise when it gets built and, then, all the way out to
Canyon county. We provided you a packet with this subdivision. I don't know if you have
had a chance to look at it. One of the items in there -- we did have a neighborhood
meeting prior to this application being heard and one of those requests was that these
lots be a larger house to buffer to be more compatible with those lots across the --
across the Ten Mile Creek. Consequently, any lots that back up to -- adjacent to the
pathway will be required to have a 1,600 square foot minimum home size. That was
done in order to accommodate those neighbors that lived on the other side of the Ten
Mile Creek. Again, I guess I forgot with respect to the pathway, we will obtain a license
agreement prior to final plat approval. We have spoken with John Anderson, we have
spoken Bill Henson at Nampa-Meridian Irrigation District, this is no problem whatsoever,
they will agree to it, and that will be in place prior to the final plat approval. With respect
to path construction, we will build that at the time this subdivision or that phase is built
and Brad is correct, the first phase comes up through here, about 75 lots in each phase.
We will build that pathway at the time that the subdivision is built. We don't want
improvements taking place behind houses after people are living there, with the caveat
that if this is built is late November, obviously, we won't landscape it until April when
water is back on, so grass and trees don't die. With respect to the fencing, there will be
four foot vinyl fencing on all common areas, which would be this pathway, also on the
park, and there will be a four foot vinyl fencing that we will install as part of the
development. I believe those are the questions that were brought up and I would be
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happy to answer any additional questions, should there be any, but we are in
agreement with the staff report and the recommended conditions of approval and we
would ask tonight that we be approved -- annexed and zoned and approved for 150 lots
for Castlebrook No. 2.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: I know there has been some concern on the pathway up in Coral Creek and
whatever the other subdivision is and I do understand that the homeowners association
will be maintaining this. Is -- are the standards going to be different with -- I don't know --
I know our parks department has been working on standards within their master
planning, but could you work with them in making sure that the pathway that is
constructed is not going to be similar to that in the other subdivision?
Amar: Mr. Mayor, Councilmember de Weerd, yes, I have seen the pathway at Coral
Creek and it leaves something to be desired. We will work with them and do -- it's our
intent that we will -- we will do the actual landscaping, we will do the improvements, so
it's not something that's left to the homeowners to do in the future or the city to do in the
future. I understand possibly at Coral Creek that's something the city will develop. I'm
not real familiar with that pathway or how it came about. But I will discuss it with the
parks director and we will come up with something not only that will be beneficial, but
will also be compatible with what will be here in the future on the other side of Ten Mile
Creek.
De Weerd: Now, the second question I have is on ground water. Is that area -- are you
going to have to bring in fill or is the ground water level there okay?
Amar: It is okay. We have ongoing monitoring, materials testing, and inspection and we
did dig test holes in this area and the park will also be a retention, detention facility. It's
in the lower area, but it will meet your standards, it won't hold ground water -- or it won't
hold storm drainage, rather, it would be free draining at all times and will have to do
that. And our ongoing witnesses -- or inspection of those test wells indicates that we will
have no problem accomplishing that.
De Weerd: And you have a fencing plan for that green space?
Amar: Yes. We want a continuation of the four foot vinyl fence here and, then, it will
continue up here and your micropath and, then, all the way down. So, it's going to have
a continual fencing, something that we will install as we build the subdivision.
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you.
Amar: You're welcome.
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Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
Nary: Just so I'm clear, on this drawing I heard Brad say that the property line for the
subdivision runs right to the edge of the property owned by Nampa-Meridian Irrigation.
So, is this pink line the property line or this is this black line the property line? Because
you said you were landscaping and I don't know what part you were landscaping.
Amar: We are landscaping all the way up to -- we will be landscaping Nampa-Meridian's
property.
Nary: Oh. Okay.
Amar: This black line is the property line, but we will be landscaping up to the Nampa-
Meridian Irrigation District property.
Nary: Okay. Just -- totally just my own ignorance, but what is the difference between a
culvert and a bridge?
Amar: A bridge is a free span, a culvert is, actually -- it's got a pipe. It's easier to
maintain a culvert, because you don't have to maintain underneath it, as you would with
a bridge.
Nary: I see. Okay. Now, is there access into the park site? It's not fenced all the way
around?
Amar: It is not. Can we go to the previous -- the area map, please? The park would be
in about this location. I do have pictures I can show you, but it is not fenced all the way -
- it is not fenced at all, with the exception of maybe Parkside Creek Subdivision. The
balance of this is an open -- there is a pathway that extends all the way down, so this
culvert or this crossing that we will put in here will actually connect with that pathway
that's already existing.
Nary: And will that pathway -- this micropath that you're building along this property line
here, does it connect to anything over here? Is there one right here? Does it connect
through there?
Amar: This is Castlebrook Subdivision No. 1. There is a common area in the corner at
this location also, so there will be a connection at that point to this pathway, so people
can access -- I guess, for that matter, they can access from Coral Creek all the way
down and access the other side of the Ten Mile.
Nary: How big is the common area here on --
Amar: Twelve thousand square feet, I believe.
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Nary: On that -- Brad, could you go back to the other layout? In looking at this football
field that you have right here, is there any -- is there anything else in here? Is this just
grass?
Amar: A lot of it will be grass, but we will be providing a recreation area also. This is a
picture of one that we did in another subdivision.
Nary: So, the intent is to provide some recreation area I guess close to the street area
side or what?
Amar: Yeah. Up in this area and leave the balance of it for kids to play soccer, football,
whatever they want to play. But it's a large open area, so they can play.
Nary: And I notice that in here there is some -- these little micropaths for these streets,
but I didn't see a whole lot of connection from the southern half here to get up here. Is
just the intent is just sidewalks all the way around? Is that the intent?
Amar: Yes, sir.
Nary: Okay.
Amar: I do have my human easel standing off to my right. This shows both Castlebrook
Subdivision No. 1 and No. 2. This is the common area in number one. We will connect
with this common area No. 2. That pathway will continue on through to this location, so
that people can get access to the western -- I don't know what they call it, western Ada
County park.
Nary: Fuller Park.
Amar: Yeah.
Corrie: Question. If I was to buy a house backing up to that football field and it's a four
foot vinyl fence, what if I wanted to put a gate in there?
Amar: That is allowed. Gates are allowed. Obviously, access is allowed onto that.
Corrie: So, they can put a gate in if they want?
Amar: Yes, sir.
Corrie: Any other questions? Okay.
Amar: Thank you. Well, I think unless you have other questions, I don't know that Ms.
Wildwood or Mr. Nickel need to speak.
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Corrie: Shawn and Susan, do you want to testify? Okay. Is there anybody else that
would like to testify in this? Okay. Evidently, you have done a pretty good job for us
here. Okay. Council, any other questions in regard to the Public Hearing? Okay. Then, I
will entertain a motion to close the Public Hearing on the request for annexation and
zoning and preliminary plat and request for variance, if there is no further questions.
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I would move that we close the public hearings AZ 02-031, the annexation and
zoning of 39.05 acres from RUT to R-8 for Castlebrook Subdivision No. 2, also Public
Hearing PP 02-032, the request for preliminary plat approval of 150 building lots and
nine other lots, and also VAR 03-005, the request for variance to allow certain blocks to
exceed 1,000 feet max and certain blocks to be less than 500 feet minimum for
Castlebrook Subdivision No. 2.
Corrie: Do I hear a second?
McCandless: Second.
Corrie: Motion has been made and seconded to close the Public Hearing on the request
for annexation and zoning, preliminary plat, and variance. Any further discussion? All
those in favor say aye. Opposed no? All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Corrie: Any further discussion? Let's take Item No. 17, request for annexation and
zoning of Castlebrook Subdivision No. 2.
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Yes, Mr. Bird.
Bird: Before we make a motion or anything, I'd like to comment to the applicants on this
subdivision. I think that for the property they got back there that's about the only thing --
the only way you could do it and I think they went out and saw a lot of resources and
talked to a lot of people and have come up with a very, very nice plan for this area and I
appreciate it.
Corrie: Thank you, Mr. Bird.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
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De Weerd: Before Mr. Nary makes a motion, I just wanted to ditto that -- and because
he asked the questions. And I appreciate the connectivity across the street to the
school, you know, because a lot of kids will probably be in that subdivision and now they
have the access to go across the ditch to school. Looks nice.
Corrie: I will entertain a motion from Mrs. de Weerd on Item No. 17, request for
annexation and zoning.
De Weerd: Okay. Mr. Mayor -- whether I asked a question or not, still end up doing it. I
move we approve the request for annexation and zoning of 39.05 acres from RUT to R-
8 zones for proposed Castlebrook Subdivision No. 2 and to assure that the fencing plan
is open vision and -- and/or no taller than four feet high and I know there was something
about the last sentence of one of the conditions about the pathway and the culvert and
when it was constructed prior to certification of occupancy on the phase -- what was it?
Does that serve your purpose?
Corrie: That was pretty close.
De Weerd: To include all staff comments and -- oh, and any applicant replies.
Bird: I'll second that.
De Weerd: Well, can I ask for Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law and Decision of
Order?
Bird: Now I will second.
Corrie: Okay. Motion has been made and seconded. Is there any further discussion?
Hearing none, roll-call vote, Mr. Berg.
Roll-Call: McCandless, yea; Nary, yea; de Weerd, yea; Bird, yea.
Corrie: Okay. All ayes. Motion for annexation and zoning with conditions is approved.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: I move that we approve the request for preliminary plat of 150 building lots
and nine other lots on 39.05 acres in a proposed R-8 zone for the Castlebrook
Subdivision No. 2 and ask the Mayor or -- I'm sorry. Not the Mayor, please. He may not
be able to write Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law and Decision of Order and to
include all comments.
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Bird: Second.
Corrie: Let the record show that I did take some law classes, but, you're right, I don't
want to do that. Okay. Any other discussions? Okay. It's getting late, so we know we are
passed 9:30. All right. Mr. Berg.
Roll-Call: McCandless, yea; Nary, yea; de Weerd, yea; Bird, yea.
Corrie: All ayes. Motion is carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: Oh. Mr. Mayor, I approve -- I mean I move that we -- I'm getting
overconfident here -- that we approve the request to allow certain block lengths to
exceed 1,000 foot maximum length and certain block lengths to be less than 500 foot
minimum for Castlebrook Subdivision No. 2, as shown on the map and ask the attorney
to draw up Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law and Decision of Order.
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Okay. You have heard the motion and second. Any further discussion?
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
Nary: On this particular one noted that we have a meeting on the 29th of this month with
the Planning and Zoning Commission, a joint workshop. I would ask that of the planning
staff that we have this discussion about this particular ordinance on that, because we
have granted a variance every time. So, we need to change the ordinance, because it
doesn't make much sense to keep doing that, so we can get that process going on that.
But, other than that, I don't have any --
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: Even though this is not the place to have this discussion -- just the place to
put it -- I -- we do have on the agenda discussion of the ordinances that Brad gave us at
the strategic planning and prioritize it, so it will certainly be on the list for discussion.
Nary: Great.
Corrie: Glad to hear that. I don't know what all was on the agenda. Okay. Mr. Berg.
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Roll-Call: McCandless, yea; Nary, yea; de Weerd, yea; Bird, yea.
Corrie: All ayes. Motion is approved for the variance.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 20: Public Hearing: RZ 03-001
Request for a Rezone of 6.95 acres from L-
Mallane Commercial Complex
O to L-O and C-G zones for by The Land
Group, Inc. – north of East Fairview Avenue and west of North Eagle
Road:
Corrie: Item No. 20 is a Public Hearing. This is a request for a rezone of 6.95 acres from
L-O to L-O and C-G zones for Mallane Commercial Complex by Land Group, Inc., north
of East Fairview and west of North Eagle Road. At this time I will open the Public
Hearing and have staff comments first.
Hawkins-Clark: Mayor, Members of the Council, this property was annexed to the city
and zoned Limited Office in 1992, a part of the Capital Christian Center project. Then, in
March of 2001 Council did approve a plat for the property under the name Mallane
Commercial Complex. The 2002 Comp Plan does designate the property as
commercial. As you know, the Louie's Restaurant sits in the center of this triangular
shaped parcel that is west of Hickory and north of Fairview. The requested rezone --
this map does not -- does not show the plat, that plat has not been, I don't believe,
recorded yet, so it's not showing up on Ada county's base map data, just what we have
here. But the -- four of the five subdivision lots are proposed to go to a C-G zone, which
is similar to much of the -- of the Fairview frontage. The proposal is to leave the lot that
is in the pending final plat that's adjacent to Dove Meadows Subdivision L-O, Limited
Office, so that that would protect the integrity there. They do have other conditions that
are related to the buffering along that shared boundary between the residential
subdivision and this commercial development. The Planning and Zoning Commission
did recommend approval. I think the main thing to just emphasize is that they're -- they
are not proposing any changes to the plat that had the 20 foot wide buffer requirement
and there is, actually, a wall that's required along that shared boundary. So, in terms of
the impact, I think that's pretty well taken care of by just keeping that Limited Office and
just doing the Franklin frontage -- or the Fairview frontage as C-G. Yeah. The
recommendation should have been received by the city clerk's office March 26th. We
just had our standard conditions, there weren't any site specifics on this application, so it
should be a pretty straight forward request, I guess. That's all we have.
Corrie: Any questions of Council for staff?
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
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Nary: Yeah. There was this -- I noticed this one condition about alternative
transportation program that's an ACHD recommendation, the special recommendation. I
guess I hadn't notice that. Is that pretty common? I hadn't seen that before and I don't
know how in the world you can have a lot of alternative transportation right there. I'm not
riding a bicycle down Fairview right there. I'm not sure what alternative they are talking
about. Is that pretty common?
Hawkins-Clark: Councilman Nary, they do include that as a recommendation in the
majority of commercial projects that have more than a single development or single
building and you will see it in a lot of the Silverstone applications, Resolution Business
Park applications, they will often include that. It is a very optional kind of thing that -- the
commuter ride people work with the future business owners to try to get car pool
incentives to their employees and things like that.
Nary: Thank you. That's great. Thanks.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: I guess just to have on the public record, the traffic light there at Hickory
Way and Fairview, that's scheduled for 2007 or 2008?
Corrie: 2007. Maybe earlier with the --
Nary: I think you're right.
Corrie: Maybe we can get it quicker. Okay.
Hawkins-Clark: I don't see -- I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor. I see that they are -- there is a 3,200
dollar deposit to the public right-of-way trust fund for this development's cost share of
that signal. I don't see the date specific in their staff report, but I do think it was 2007.
Corrie: Okay. Thank you, Brad. Is the representative here this evening? Is the testimony
you are about to give the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you
God?
Hepworth: Yes. For the record, Russ Hepworth with the Land Group. We have read the
conditions of this, as far as Planning and Zoning's comments and staff report and we
agree to everything that -- that's in the staff report and I'm here to answer any
questions, if you have any.
Corrie: Okay. Thank you. Any questions? Okay. Thank you very much. Is there anyone
else that would like to issue testimony? Okay. Hearing none, Council, any questions on
the Public Hearing before we close? Okay. I'll entertain a motion to close the Public
Hearing, then, hearing none.
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McCandless: Mr. Mayor, I move we close the Public Hearing.
Corrie: Okay. Motion has been made. Do I hear a second?
Nary: Second.
Corrie: Motion has been made and seconded to close the Public Hearing on the request
for rezone of Mallane Commercial Complex. Any further discussion? All those in favor of
the motion say aye. Opposed no? All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Corrie: Further comments? Hearing none, then, I will entertain a motion for the request
for a rezone.
McCandless: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. McCandless.
McCandless: I move that we approve the request for rezone of 6.95 acres from L-O to
L-O and C-G zones for Mallane Commercial Complex by the Land Group, Incorporated,
north of East Fairview Avenue and west of North Eagle Road, and for the attorney to
draw up the proper papers.
Nary: Second.
Corrie: Motion has been made and seconded to approve the request rezone. Any
further discussion? Roll-call vote, Mr. Berg.
Roll-Call: McCandless, yea; Nary, yea; de Weerd, yea; Bird, yea.
Corrie: All ayes. Motion is carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: Just before we move off of this topic, if our liaison can please go back and
stress again the need and desire for a traffic light at Hickory Way and Fairview. I know
money is tight and that's -- 2007 is a long way off and this certainly could use a traffic
light. So, just my editorial comment.
Corrie: Okay. Any other comments?
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Nary: Not until after we close.
Corrie: Okay. Motion has been made to close the meeting. Do I hear a second?
McCandless: Second.
Corrie: Motion has been made and seconded to close the meeting. All in favor say aye.
All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Corrie: We close at 9:45.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:45 P.M.
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