HomeMy WebLinkAbout2024-04-02 Work Session Meridian City Council Work Session April 2, 2024.
A Meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 4:33 p.m. Tuesday, April
2, 2024, by Mayor Robert Simison.
Members Present: Robert Simison, Joe Borton, Luke Cavener, Liz Strader, John
Overton, Anne Little Roberts and Doug Taylor.
Also Present: Chris Johnson, Bill Nary, Kim Warren, Mike Barton, Caleb Hood, Shawn
Harper, Joe Bongiorno and Dean Willis.
ROLL-CALL ATTENDANCE
X Liz Strader X Joe Borton
Anne Little Roberts _X_ John Overton
_X_ Doug Taylor _X_Luke Cavener
X Mayor Robert E. Simison
Simison: Council, we will call the meeting to order. For the record it is April 2nd, 2024,
at 4:33 p.m. We will begin this afternoon's work session with roll call attendance.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
Simison: Next up is adoption of the agenda.
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: Oh. Sorry.
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: I move that we adopt the agenda as published.
Cavener: Second.
Simison: Have a motion and a second to adopt the agenda as published. Is there any
discussion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay? The ayes have it
and the agenda is adopted.
MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES.
CONSENT AGENDA [Action Item]
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1. Final Plat for Modern Craftsman at Franklin (FP-2023-0021), by Bailey
Engineering, generally located on the north side of W. Franklin Rd.,
approximately 1/4 mile east of N. Black Cat Rd.
2. Approval of Agreement for Contracted Services to Eurofins Eaton
Analytical, LLC for Annual Non-Micro Water Sampling Testing for the
Not-To-Exceed Fiscal Year 2024 amount of $135,650.00
3. Mini Heavy Equipment Rodeo Agreement with Western States
Equipment Company for Public Works Week Expo 2024
4. Approval of License Agreement with Discovery Co-Operative
Gardeners for a Community Garden in Discovery Park.
5. Memorandum of Understanding Between the City of Meridian and the
Idaho Transportation Department for grant funding of the Linder
Road Overpass Project
6. Memorandum of Agreement between Western Ada Recreation
District and City of Meridian for Transfer of Assets
Simison: Next up is the Consent Agenda.
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: The Consent Agenda, I move that we approve the Consent Agenda, for the
Mayor to sign and Clerk to attest.
Cavener: Second.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to approve the Consent Agenda. Is there any
discussion? If not, all favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay? The ayes have it and
the Consent Agenda is agreed to.
MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES.
ITEMS MOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA [Action Item]
Simison: There were no items removed from the Consent Agenda.
DEPARTMENT / COMMISSION REPORTS [Action Item]
7. Rail with Trail Pathway Project Update and Funding Request
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Simison: So, we will move on to Department/Commissioner Reports. Item 7, Rail With
Trail Pathway Project update and funding requests. We will turn this over to Ms.
Warren.
Warren: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, City Council people. May I commend you on your quick
transition. I am here with a relatively straightforward question, but I would like to walk
you through a bit of history on the Rail With Trail Pathway. So, I would like to provide an
update and I will try to abridge this, so it's not -- so we don't get bogged down in it. But I
know we have new faces and this project's been going on a while, so I appreciate your
attention. So, as a reminder, the Rail With Trail is a plan for a multi-use pathway
adjacent to the rail line, south of Broadway, just west of City Hall, between about 3rd
Street and 8th Street. We have had an easement to complete all of the pathways
shown in the kind of pinkish red line, except for those two properties that are highlighted
at the end. FOCAF, which is Friends Of Children And Family. It's our local Headstart
program and, then, the orange property, more about that in a minute. So, we have been
working on completing the right of way, but as of now we still don't have access to
Northwest 3rd Street. So, the Friends Of Children And Family property behind their
fence line -- this is kind of labeled where the pathway would go. We would pipe the
lateral. There is a -- there is a section of property, a linear piece of land, that we would
really like to be able to build our pathway on. It's not usable by the Friends Of Children
And Family. They have kids and the play yard. Really, the only uses that can occur on
this property are, you know, maybe utilities or pathways. So, it's valuable to us. We
approached -- and, again, the white property -- we approached FOCAF and said could
we just buy an easement from you and -- for our pathway. They were not opposed.
They were also not able to sell us one. The -- had to do with being a federal
organization and just not wanting to encumber the property. It was complicated. But
they said that we might be able to trade property and so, again, just seeking to get that
access out to 3rd Street we did purchase a property, the city did, that was one of the
times we came to you and asked for guidance on this project. What if we purchased
this lot. That gives us access onto 3rd and it gives us a parcel to trade with the
neighbor to the west. That way we complete the right of way for the trail and it's a
benefit for the Headstart organization, because they get some access onto 3rd Street
and, then, you know, we get this pathway project. We were needing to wait until the
end of 2023. They had some bonds ending on that project that matured and so this was
what the land trade looked like. I won't go into all the details. But we had purchased
the property in green and it had -- and we were looking to do a property boundary
adjustment again, so the city could have a linear parcel for a pathway and, then, there is
that L-shaped piece that would result for FOCAF to -- to have access and just a little
more room on their parcel and, then, most recently when we came to you our question
was we would like to trade this property, but we had had some appraisals done and the
property behind the fence that's encumbered by irrigation easements isn't really
valuable in terms of market value. That is something we really do find value in, but it
didn't appraise as high as the parcel that the city was trading. So, there was a bit of an
inequity there and our proposal was maybe we trade equal areas. So, properties of
approximately the same size, because the value, whatever it is, on the market is really
valuable to the city for this project. So, we were moving forward with that trade option
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and I will just back up a little bit and talk about Friends of Children and Families. I don't
know how much you know. They are early childhood education and care and we have
partnered with them for a long time, especially on the holiday classic volleyball
tournament Parks and Rec puts on. My neighbor over the cubicle Maggie runs this
volleyball tournament around Thanksgiving every year and they earn several thousand
dollars worth of proceeds that, then, we have volunteers shop for Christmas lists that
are provided by kids from the Boys and Girls Club and from the Headstart programs.
So, we shop, we wrap the presents, they get delivered. It's been going on for 14 years.
They are doing good things in the community. They are a good partner. They have
been very patient with us, because we have been back to visit them about every year
and just kind of working on this trade. So, we like the idea that it's advantageous to
them. It's advantageous to us. We talked about sharing parking on that parcel. So, it's
2024 and the bonds are mature and we ended the due diligence phase of the project
and start looking specifically at what's needed. Pull some title reports. And in one of
the title reports there is a mention, if you want to look at the property that's highlighted in
yellow, there is a mention -- and Kurt Starman, one of our city attorneys, has a real
eagle eye and I -- you know, it was -- it was just a very -- I hint to the mention, but it got
us looking -- it referenced some land on the south side of those properties that had
been deeded to the Bureau of Reclamation. So, we did some research, we, yeah,
consulted the title companies, Ada county. There is a bit of a -- what they call a hole in
the map. The taxable properties are very well documented, but this was all nontaxable
and so it was assumed that it was railroad property and it was quite hard to find out who
actually did own it, but if it's Bureau of Reclamation land it was -- it was a -- kind of an
en masse deed of several easements to Nampa-Meridian several years ago. So, if it's
Nampa-Meridian who was owning and managing the parcel, we can go across it and
that was kind of exciting news, because it might -- we might not need to do the land
trade, which was doable, but also kind of complex. So, here was what we just -- here is
kind of a quick overview of the proposed alternate alignment where we could use that
irrigation easement in the cross-hatched area and skirt the FOCAF parcels and not
need to do a trade and maybe just keep that parcel on 3rd Street. It would require us to
pipe just a little bit of the Nine Mile Drain, but, otherwise, you know, we would be free to
go ahead without -- without needing to do the land trade and with some of the savings
and that we use in the land trade maybe that could be applied to some Trailhead
development. We talked -- we don't owe FOCAF anything, but they are a good partner
and we have been talking to them for years about shared parking and so we would like
to possibly honor the spirit of kind of the agreement we looked to make and discuss that
-- and I believe it was -- I believe in the community center in Kleiner Park -- was that the
one, Mike? There is -- there is an agreement that they pay the city some money
annually to help maintain parking. Anyway, so we are looking at some kind of a
possible sharing of parking and they could make a future improvement to their site to
pass through if they want it. There is still a few questions and considerations we need
to get through. We think, you know, we are in a pretty good position, but we do need
some additional funding for the project and part of that is it's just been many years since
the funds were -- these are funds that COMPASS administers. It's federal funding. The
transportation of the TAP TMA funding. So, we have had that and because it's been
several years, just like our property appreciated, cost of construction have risen and so
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our Altec project manager advised us to ask for some more money. I think it would be
available for us to -- to request additional funding to complete construction of the entire
scope of the project, but with that additional funding the city has a required match of --
it's about seven and a half percent. It's a little less than that. But we are kind of
keeping numbers fairly round. So, would obligate us. If we were to accept additional
funds we would need to provide that additional match. We aren't asking for a budget
amendment, because we have money in that account to build this project or to build it
and, then, get reimbursed for it. So, at this point we are just curious to know if -- we
would like -- to request funding we need the Mayor's official ask and we need your
direction or permission for the Mayor to sign that layer -- letter, pardon me, if, in fact,
that's the direction you would like to go in supporting this project. So, are there
questions that I could stand for or clarify?
Simison: Council, questions, comments, feedback?
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: Can you refresh my memory? How -- how much have we spent on this
project to date? Is it the 70,000 that's -- or I guess 38,000 that was listed in the city
portion? I seem to feel like that we have spent more than that on kind of the totality of
this kind of conceptual project.
Warren: We have -- Mike, I might need help with this, because it was a while ago. We
have spent some on some preliminary concepts. I think I'm going to have Mike answer
this. I came into this just as I was starting my position and he would probably have a
better handle on it. Thank you.
Barton: Mr. Mayor, Councilman Cavener, great question. So, about six years ago we
budgeted 500,000 dollars for this project from General Fund. We thought that we
needed the entire amount, because at that -- at that time the rules were that we would
build the project, pay everything and, then, be reimbursed. The rules have changed
now where it's more of a revolving type situation where you can -- as pay applications
come in you can pay those bills and, then, submit for reimbursement right away, so,
then, that money goes back into our budget. So far to date we have that original
500,000. We have spent about 34,000 on it for some preliminary design, some fit plans.
These were done maybe five years ago, but the current amount that we have in our
budget for this project is about 474,000.
Cavener: Thank you, Mike. That's helpful.
Taylor: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Taylor.
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Taylor: Kim, thanks for the presentation. It was good to kind of put all the pieces
together. I did have a question. Is the -- with the status for what we are being asked to
approve, are we required to submit another application for an additional federal grant or
is this sort of like an extension on the current grant that you have already received?
Warren: Councilman Taylor, it's a great question. Mr. Mayor. We -- we initially thought
we did need to submit a separate application, but, then, determined with COMPASS
that it's really just an additional request kind of under the same terms. So, no, we don't
have to fill out a whole new application. They think the money is available. We just
would need to formally ask for it in order to get it and I think in part because we are
tacking it onto this project, it's not a new project. It's just to complete it.
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: Just to thank you, Kim. Fantastic presentation and I thought it was all pretty
straightforward. But a question I had. If something changes with COMPASS and that
federal funding extension or additional federal funding were not coming through, I
assume at that point you all would be back in front of Council to discuss; right? I just
want to make sure I'm kind of on the same page about how you are going about it,
because you are not asking for a budget amendment; right?
Warren: Correct.
Strader: Because you already have it -- an amount budgeted that has covered the work
done so far. The -- the project was approved a while ago, but the cost has doubled.
So, it is a real concern. Is there any chance of COMPASS not awarding this or things
changing? What -- what have been your conversations with them? Is it -- is it a
competitive situation where we are competing with others for the dollars or --
Warren: Council Person Strader, Mr. Mayor, I -- you know, the money that was awarded
to this project originally has been -- they kind of have their balancing sheets and they
move it around, but as I understand it it is identified and dedicated to these projects.
So, I haven't had those conversations, because I haven't had any -- there hasn't been
any information that wouldn't be available. I mean I suppose that might be a possibility,
but it's been presented to us as, you know, this is available, we can schedule it for your
project for 2025. So, you know, there -- previously -- I mean we talked about an
alternative, simply building the project ourselves. It can cost more money to build with
federal dollars, because you are building to federal standards. It's also a lot of money
that we have -- you know, it's a small match relative to what we are getting. So, I guess
there are pluses and minuses to both. But I don't -- I suppose nothing is guaranteed,
but in my -- I haven't worried that it wouldn't be available, because the money that we
have been trying to spend has been there for years.
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
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Simison: Maybe -- maybe we could have Mr. Hood come up and -- Kim is not our
COMPASS knower of things, so Mr. Hood.
Hood: Mr. Mayor, Members of Council, it is competitive, although I will say this project
is further along than some of the other projects that may be competing for some of
these and at COMPASS they typically will fund cost overruns for projects that are
already in design and going into construction. So, when you are this far along you -- it
is scored better. So, again, like Kim, I can't guarantee that we will get that match from
COMPASS, the -- yeah -- 7.34 percent. But we are in really good shape. Hopefully that
helps.
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: Yeah. That's very helpful and I assume that part of the process would be once
this letter is sent, you will get a response from COMPASS, you will inform the Council of
the response. If things change or this goes a different direction we will all have a
discussion, so I'm comfortable with that.
Hood: Yeah. Mr. Mayor, if I can just -- the obligation, then, the city's match, then, would
-- if we aren't successful there will have to be another conversation, because, obviously,
our skin in the game won't cover the cost of this project, so --
Strader: Thanks.
Taylor: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Taylor.
Taylor: Caleb, just a quick question. To clarify. Is this grant something that COMPASS
will apply on our behalf or is it part of a larger grant wherein other communities that are
under the COMPASS sort of footprint are also receiving part of it? So, I'm trying to
decide is it a federal government that's deciding if we receive this new additional
request or is it COMPASS that's deciding we get the money?
Hood: Mr. Mayor, Councilman Taylor, it is COMPASS resources, although it does come
through the federal government. So, the TAP TMA program is our region. So, it is,
again, competitive against just our internal -- other cities and the like. But it is awarded
through COMPASS, so we are really -- COMPASS -- it's a scoring committee of
COMPASS and through their board that gets to choose essentially -- depending on how
much money is in the pot they, then, allocate through the federal government. At the
end of the day the money does come from the feds, but it is, again, allocated through
local resources, if that makes sense.
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Simison: And maybe just to put some perspective on this, this has been in the budget
for a plan for COMPASS for years and because of the delays the funds have been
moving around. The board could have at any point in time or the staff said we are not
going to do it and removed it, but they have not chosen to take that path. So, I can --
we will assume that they are committed to continue the funding through this process.
But, yes, if anything changes we won't move forward.
Hood: Or find the funding for that; right? I mean they may have some identified funding
sources now, but help us continue to look for other sources that -- that can complete this
project.
Simison: Maybe back to Kim. So, you are off the hook for -- for now. Kim, I just -- just
maybe -- if Council was to say, no, don't send the letter, what would be our option at this
point in time?
Warren: Our option? Let me just add one thing and that is we are not guaranteed the
funding, but we have been in close contact with COMPASS and we are sort of led to
believe that it would be available.
Simison: I guess my -- let's just assume we would stay with 500,000. Don't get any
additional --
Warren: We don't get --
Simison: -- or Council says, no, we don't really like this alignment, stay with -- with plan
one. Can we still do plan one or is this the route that we need to go in order to
accomplish the outcome we want to accomplish?
Warren: We could do it locally, but we would -- you know, with city funds. We would
probably need more.
Simison: Okay. I guess I'm saying even the alignment, can we do this without going
into the alignment change? I don't know if that's cheaper than -- is that more expensive
to do the alignment on the outside or less if you were to stay with your current --
because the original plans didn't have this as a trailhead or did it?
Warren: It -- there was some parking. Trailhead amenities would be covered by that
funding. So, it would be minor, but kind of need to do some treatment at the edge of the
street and green the property or clean it. So, yes, we have -- that's kind of been added
in, but to a minor degree. We don't -- we don't have a project without those two parcels.
We would need to just probably -- if it was a no go we would get back the money and
decide if it was a local priority. But we could complete -- theoretically we could complete
the work under a different funding source.
Simison: Okay.
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Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman --
Strader: Strader.
Simison: -- Strader. Thank you.
Strader: Like cake. A lot of emotions flying around. Thank you, Kim. I personally feel
like this is still a great project. It made good sense years ago when we started the
process. I think it still makes sense. I'm a little bit concerned about the cost -- kind
of the magnitude of the cost is exploding. I'm appreciative of these potential dollars
from COMPASS. I hope that comes through. If it doesn't I think we will have to really
have a conversation. But unless -- and I don't know if anyone has a different feeling,
but I'm happy to make a motion. Mr. Mayor, I move that we move forward on the Rail
With Trail project request with COMPASS.
Overton: Second.
Simison: Have a motion and a second to authorize the Mayor to send a letter
to COMPASS requesting -- or providing additional funds for the revised project. Is
there further discussion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay? The
ayes have it and I will sign a letter.
Warren: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Council.
Simison: Thank you.
Warren: And Councilman Borton. Your Honor. Your Honor.
Borton: Ominous. Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: I move we adjourn the work session.
Simison: Motion to adjourn. All in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay? The
ayes have it. We are adjourned.
MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 4:57 P.M.
(AUDIO RECORDING ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS)
MAYOR ROBERT E. SIMISON 4/16/2024
ATTEST:
CHRIS JOHNSON - CITY CLERK 4/16/2024