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MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
JANUARY 2, 1990
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MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING HELD DECEMBER 18, 1990: (APPROVED)
1: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR CONCITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR PRE-SCHOOL
BY MORTENSON & JOHNSON: (APPROVED)
2: FINAL PLAT ON DUNTEN PLACE # 2: (APPROVED)
3: JUDITH WORRELL-PAYNE, ADA COUNTY HOUSING AUTHORITY: (DISCUSSION)
4: PRE-TERMINATION HEARING: WATER/SEWER/TRASH DELINQUENCIES: (APPROVED)
5: APPROVE THE BILLS: (APPROVED)
6: APPROVE SUMMARY OF ORDINANCE # 547 FOR PUBLICATION PURPOSES: (APPROVED)
7: DEPARTMENT REPORTS:
MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
JANUARY 2, 1991
The Regular Meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order by Mayor Grant P.
Kingsford at 7:30 P.M.:
Members Present: Ron Tolsma, Bert Myers, Bob Giesler, Max Yerrington:
Others Present: Cheryl Johnson, Kay Davis, K. Beumeler, Barbara Horn, Bill Gordon,
Gary Smith, Moe Alidjani, Wayne Crookston, Members of Scout Troop #28,Judith Worrell-Payne:
Kingsford: Welcomed Members of Scout Troop *28 to the ~eeting.
MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING HELD DECEMBER 18, 1990:
The Motion was made by Myers and seconded by Yerrington to approve the Minutes of the
previous meeting held December l8, 1990 as written:
Motion Carried: All Yea:
mTEM #l: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUES'l' FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR PRE-SCHOOL BY
MORTENSON & JOHNSON:
Kingsford: I will now open the Public Hearing, is there any present who wishes to
testify?
Cheryl Johnson, l80S N. Locust Grove Rd., was sworn by the attorney.
Johnson: I am the applicant and am present to answer any questions that you may have.
Giesler: I noticed there is no fence for the children.
Johnson: The children will not be outside at all, there will be no play time.
Tolsma: Mou have read the City Engineer'S comments and have no problem with them?
Johnson: No problem.
Giesler: Where is the drop off & pick up area going to be?
Johnson: At the back door. There will be no use of the front door.
Giesler: I would like to commend you for going ahead with this project.
Kingsford: Is there anyone else from the public who would like to offer testimony
on this issue? Being no response the Public Hearing is closed.
The Motion was made by Giesler and seconded by Yerrington to approve the Findings
of Facts and Conclusions of Law as prepared for P & z.
Roll Call Vote: Yerrington - Yea; Giesler - Yea; Myers - Yea; Tolsma - Yea;
Motin Carried: All Yea:
The Motion was made by Giesler and seconded by Myers
Use.Permit for Mortenson & Johnson Pre-School.
to approve the Conditional
RollCall Vote: Tolsma ~ Yea; Giesler - Yea; Myers- Yea; Yerrington - Yea;
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JANUARY 2, 1991
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Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM #2: FINAL PLAT ON DUNTEN PLACE #2:
Kingsford: Barbara Horn did you want to say something?
Barbara Horn, School District *2, although the School District supports economic
growth of course within the district boundaries it must be noted that this planned
residential development will have an adverse impact on schools in the area. At the
present time nearly every school is beyond capacity. It is not our intent to try
to stop proposed projects but rather to ask the Council that they pledge their
support to help alleviate overcrowding before you proceed with approving residential
sites. There are several for support which you might want to consider, both the
City Council and the Developer be prepared to support future bond issues for
school construction and pledge support as such, or that the City Council support
a development fee statute on new home construction at a 3% construction value to
help offset the costs of building additional school facilities. Also that
developers fee has to provide adequate turn arounds and loading areas for school
buses and safe pedestrian access in the form of walkways and bike paths and as
they are being planned that those things be put into the plans.
Giesler: I know you are representing the school but do you work for the school or?
Horn: Yes, I work for the School District.
Giesler: I have visited with individuals of the school board for over two years and
I have never had anybody get back with me on solutions. I've asked for them to come
up with something that could help us in making a decision, because we are not trying
to burden the schools by any means.
Kingsford: You may note that the letter from the school district have noted that
same theme on going that they would like support for that particular area development
fees.
Giesler: We have more applications corning in, so whats the next step?
I don't like putting a burden on the schools.
Kingsford: I think what they are asking for Bob is support of the programs that
they try to propose for building.
Tolsma: I think your only the second or third person that's ever come and spoke
to us in the last three or four years.
Kingsford: The letter that we've gotten from the school district is pretty standard
comments.
Tolsma: The story I hear from alot of the people is the credability of the School District.
The school doesn't have any credability.
Kingsford: I think what you are doing here is following up communication. Thank you
for coming Barbara.
Crookston: I think we've had people testify that are in your positio~
on proposed subdivisions maybe five or six times in the last year.
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Eng. Smith: I would just like to comment that the sewer and water plans for this
subdivision have been approved but I have not received any re~submittal on the
final plat.
Giesler: One of the things that she did bring up was like the turn arounds and the
walkways, are those sorts of things being taken into consideration on these subdivisons
and if not what needs to be done?
Eng. SMith: Anytime we have a subdivision thatls being developed as a number one for
example of a total parcel that will have more phases then the highway district does
require that they have a turn around that would provide for vehicles to turn around.
We haven't been requiring any special walkways outside of the standard 5' sidewalk
on each side of the street and there hasn't been any discussion previously about
bike paths either.
Kingsford: I think typically we've made an effort to make sure that there is
adequate turn arounds and so forth. Any other comments from anyone?
The Motion was made by Tolsma and seconded by Yerrington to approve the Final Plat
on Dunten Place #2 subject to meeting conditions of the City EngineeD staff and other
entities.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM #3: JUDITH WORRELL-PAYNE, ADA COUNTY HOUSING AUTHORITY;
Judith Worrell-Payne: Has the Council had a chance to review the information I gave
to you? What it basically is, is the cooperative agreement that we wish to execute
with the City of Meridian which will allow the Housing Authority to acquire or
develop some housing. units that would be available to low income individuals.
We left the number of units blank so that you could fill in that slot with the
number that you want. Currently under the Ada County Agreement 200 units is what
they had agreed on and we are also approaching City of Kuna, Garden City, the other
smaller cities within the county area. They are going with 100 to 200 units it
sounds like an aweful lot but then this agreement will last for we hope five years.
Crookston: Are these houses, are they in fact houses or are they mutiple family
type dwellings. What kind of structures are we talking about?
Payne: Currently we have an application which has been approved and we are waiting
for the dollars to come down from Department of Housing and urban development for acquisition
existing units but as far as whether they will be attached or semi-attached or multi
family it's going to depend when we get the money what is actually available. We told
HOD when we applied that we would be looking for probably no more than five detached
units and then the rest weill look for usually we try to get duplexes or four plexes.
Crookston: Are these owned by the Housing Authority?
Payne: The housing authority would be the owner of the properties that we propose to
acquire or develop under this cooperative agreement.
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Crookston: On the payments in lieu of taxes and the City's apparent responsibility
to distribute those payments in lieu to other taxing entities within the county,
how do you determine the taxable value, what's the procedure for that?
Payne: Currently we have some units in Garden City and ran into the same question
and we continued because it was their desire to do so to pay the payment in lieu
of taxes directly to Ada County and they dispursed it accordingly, and we'd be
willing to continue that or if it is your desire for us to pay directly then probably
our attorney and yours would have to get together and see what you felt was going to
be a reasonable way to handle that. Distribution of the funds would rest with the
City of Meridian and we are willing to pay whoever is determined to be the appropriate
entity to collect.
Crookston: Does the County then access the property on the same basis that they would
otherwise?
Payne: Yes.
Crookston: On the payment in Lieu, not to indicate that the government wouldn't pay
but there is no guarantee that those payments in lieu would be made, there is no
lien under the agreement, how would that be enforced if there is no enforcement vehicle?
Payne: I would have to look into that because we do always meet that obligation.
The procedure would be to decide and agree on whatever language we are going to use
submit that to HOD to the attorney at HUD and see if they will accept it.
Crookston: I don't follow when you spoke of lower taxes.
Payne:
home.
Because normal homeowners would pay whatever the assessment would be on that
The payment in lieu of taxes is based on a more broad tax base.
Crookston: I thought you were referring to, there's some clauses in there that indicate
that the City will not charge for services that are in essence ordinarily provided for
free, which I assume they mean fire protection, police protection, but it says that
they can charge for things that are normally assessed which I assume they are talking
about water, sewer and trash and things of that nature.
Payne: Right.
Crookston: The other problem I had was the allowance of variances from the Building
and Zoning Code.
Payne: That's not an automatic thing.
Crookston: Specifically when they talk about variances from the building code what
concerned me was the safety factors, fire codes, life safety codes.
Payne: The main reason we approached you at this point is because we do have the
application pending, we would like to be able to, when we receive the dollars look
in Meridian with a clear conscience. Our waiting list has over l,OOO on on it.
Giesler: We do have some low income apartments in Meridian now, those have wound
up being one of the Police Departments high call rates. I would have to really
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think about this before going ahead.
Payne: The only housing projects that Meridian has within its City limits are not
owned or affiliated with the Housing Authority. We serve about 800 families
currently in Meridian throught the section 8 program.
Giesler: How many units would you have in a certain area?
Payne: It would depend. If we were going to acquire units we would scout around
and see what's out there and when we found something that we think we'd really
like we'd come back to the City Council and tell you what the sites were and see
if you felt it was to high of a concentration of assisted units. If we were
going to build we would still corne to the City Council and explain what our
intent was, if we were building our own we would more likely than not we would
build ten to a lot.
Giesler: Well whether it's in one area or alot of areas we'd still have the
same amount of people to take care of, this still is a concern of mine.
Payne: Historically when you separate them they blend better into the
community and you don't generally have as many problems as if you locate alot
of low income individuals in the same area.
Tolsma: What was the address in Garden City? I'd like to look at some of these places.
Payne: I'll have to call you with the exact street address.
Kingsford: It's changed over the last few years but as recently as six years ago
all the statistics indicated that we had over 26% of our housing was low income
housing and we had gotten you know basically a deferment that they wouldn't
create any more, I'd certainly side with th~acquisition and upgrading some of
what is here but I'd have a hard time supporting a higher percent. I appreciate
you coming over.
Payne: It's good for me to know what you all are feeling. If your looking at
perhaps being more receptive to us acquiring maybe some of the repossessed homes
and making them available then that's the aspect that we will work from also.
Myers: I agree with that, because of just what we heard from Barbara from the
school, if you create more then there will be more kids again.
Payne: As far as schools go my thought was to create from the waiting list a
priority system where people who already live here and have children in school
would get the priority and we probably wouldn't even look at housing anyone in
those units coming from outside.
Kingsford: Are there any of the other municipalities that signed?
Payne: We are in the process of signing with Kuna. We do have an existing
agreement with Garden City and we are updating that. The City of Eagle is not
real receptive but is going to meet with us.
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If you would like copies to look at I would be glad to get those for you.
ITEM *4: PRE-TERMINATION HEARING: WATER/SEWER/TRASH DELINQUENCIES:
Kingsford: This is to inform you in writing, if you choose to, you have the
right to a pre-determination hearing at 7:30 P.M. 1/2/91 before the Mayor and
City Council, to appear in person to be judged on facts and defend the claim
made byu the City that your water, sewer, and trash bill is delinquent. You
may retain Counsel. This service will be discontinued 1.l6.9l unless paid in full.
Is there anyone from the public who wishes to contest their water/sewer/trash
delinquencies? No response. They are hereby informed that they may appeal or have
the decision of the City reviewed by the Fourth Judicial District Court, pursuant
to Idaho Code. Even though they appeal the water will be shut off. The amount
of the water/sewer & trash delinquencies is $12,345.15.
The Motion was made by Myers and seconded by Tolsma to approve the turn off list.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM #5: APPROVE THE BILLS:
The Motion was made by Myers and seconded by Tolsma to approve the bills.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM *6: APPROVE SUMMARY OF ORDINANCE #547 FOR PUBLICATION PURPOSES:
The Motion was made by Myers and seconded by Yerrington to approve of the summary of
Ordinance #547 for Publication.
Roll Call Vote: Yerrington - Yea; Giesler - Yea; Myers - Yea; Tolsma - Yea;
Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM *7: DEPARTMENT REPORTS
Kingsford: Two things I'd like to bring up. One being we have two terms on
Planning and Zoning with expired, both are willing to serve. These are Jim
Johnson & Jim Shearer.
The Motion was made by Myers and seconded by Tolsma to approve the appointment of
Jim Johnson & Jim Shearer to another term on the Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
Kingsford: The next thing I'd like to bring up is that we'd like our citizens to
follow the voluntary burn ban.
ITEM #7: DEPARTMENT REPORTS:
Chief Gordon: Explained the pin map located in the Police Department and invited
the Council to come by and take a look at it and see where the problem areas are
in Meridian.
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Kingsford: I don't think I've ever said it before but the Councilmen are covered
under our City liability insurance to ride with the Police and I would encourage
you when you have time available to go out and ride with the guys.
Crookston: I would request that the Council make a motion to go into executive
session on a legal pending matter.
The Motion was made by Yerrington and seconded by Giesler to go into executive
session at 8:20.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
Kingsford: Meeting called back to order at 8:50 P.M..
to the City Attorney regarding the Executive Session.
Directions were given
Tolsma: I have visited with the City Engineer and asked him to proceed post-haste
with getting a new well on line.
The Motion was made by Myers and seconded by Yerrington to adjourn at 8:53 P.M.:
Motion Carried: All Yea:
APPROVED:
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GRANT KINGSFORD, MAYOR
ATTEST:
Ma or & Council
P & Z, Atty, Bldg,
Stuart, Ward, Eng.,
Police, Gass, Valley News,
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