HomeMy WebLinkAbout2024-01-16 Work Session Meridian City Council Work Session January 16, 2024.
A Meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 4:30 p.m., Tuesday,
January 16, 2023, by Mayor Robert Simison.
Members Present: Robert Simison, Joe Borton, Liz Strader, Luke Cavener, John
Overton, Anne Little Roberts and Doug Taylor.
ROLL-CALL ATTENDANCE
X Liz Strader X Joe Borton
Anne Little Roberts X John Overton
_X_ Doug Taylor _X_Luke Cavener
X Mayor Robert E. Simison
Simison: Council, for the record it is Tuesday, January 16th, 2024, and 4:30 p.m. We
will begin this afternoon's work session with roll call attendance.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Simison: Next item up is the Pledge of Allegiance, which will be led by Andrew
Vanderveen. If you would like to come forward and lead us in the pledge.
(Pledge of Allegiance recited.)
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: Thank you, Andrew, for being here today. I had a chance to meet with
Andrew before the meeting. Nice young man. Very inquisitive and insightful about
Meridian and our parks and, Andrew, I just want to say this is probably the best Pledge
of Allegiance that we have done all year. So, thank you for joining us today and doing a
great job. We sure appreciate it.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
Simison: Andrew, we thank you for being here and with that we will move on to the
adoption of the agenda.
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: Move we adopt the agenda as presented.
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Strader: Second.
Simison: Have a motion and a second to adopt the agenda. Is there any discussion? If
not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay. The ayes have it and the agenda
is adopted.
MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES.
CONSENT AGENDA [Action Item]
1. Approve Minutes of the January 2, 2024 City Council Special Meeting
2. Approve Minutes of the January 2, 2024 City Council Regular
Meeting
3. Cole Valley Christian Schools Inc. Water Main Easement (ESMT-2023-
0185)
4. Final Plat for Matador Estates (FP-2023-0024) by Marty Camberlango,
Quantum Ltd., Inc., located at 1235 E. McMillan Rd.
5. Final Order for Centerville Subdivision No. 2 (FP-2023-0022) by Kent
Brown Planning Services, located near the southeast corner of E.
Amity Rd. and S. Hillsdale Ave.
6. License Agreement with Nampa & Meridian Irrigation District to allow
the City of Meridian to cross the Hunter Lateral along E. Idaho Ave.
7. Interagency Agreement between the City of Meridian and Ada County
Highway District for Roadway Improvement to be included with the
Water and Sewer Main Replacement, E. Idaho Ave., N. Meridian Rd. to
NE 6th St. (City Project #10567)
8. Farm Lease Between the City of Meridian and Louie Asumendi for
farming of 40 acres of City owned land adjacent to the Wastewater
Resource Recovery Facility for 2024.
9. Resolution 24-2431: A Resolution Approving a Farm Lease
Agreement between the City of Meridian and Loui Asumendi
concerning approximately forty (40) acres of real property located on
N. Ten Mile R., North of W. Ustick Rd., in Ada County, Idaho;
Authorizing the Mayor and the City Clerk to execute and attest said
Farm Lease on behalf of the City of Meridian; and providing an
effective date
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10. Resolution No. 24-2430: A Resolution of the Mayor and the City
Council of the City of Meridian Approving City Council President's
Appointments of City Council Members/City Staff Members to Serve
as Interagency Boards, Committees, and Initiatives Representatives,
and Providing an Effective Date
Simison: Next up is the Consent Agenda.
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Borton.
Borton: No changes. So, I move that we approve the Consent Agenda as published.
For the Mayor to sign and Clerk to attest.
Strader: Second.
Simison: Have a motion and a second to approve the Consent Agenda. Is there any
discussion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye? Opposed nay? The ayes have it
and the Consent Agenda is agreed to.
MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES.
ITEMS MOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA [Action Item]
Simison: There were no items moved from the Consent Agenda.
DEPARTMENT / COMMISSION REPORTS [Action Item]
11. Impact Fee Assessment Deferral Agreement between the City of
Meridian, Ada County Highway District, and JTR Holdings, LLC for
property at 105 E. Carlton Ave.
Simison: So, we will go on to Department/Commission Reports. First item up is Item
11, Impact Assessment Deferral Agreement and I will turn this over to Mr. Nary.
Nary: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council --
Simison: One second, Mr. Nary. Councilman Borton.
Borton: Just making a quick record of recusing from any consideration or discussion to
this topic. Have an interest in the property.
Simison: Thank you.
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Nary: Mr. Mayor, Members of Council, for the public's benefit the city collects impact
fees for Ada County Highway District at the building's permitted stage of all
developments. That's an agreement that has been ongoing with the highway district for
many many years and, occasionally, we run into situations, based on the request
normally from the developer of the property, to defer the payment of the impact fees to a
later point in time, rather than at the building permit stage, but maybe to a later point
based on economic reasons for varieties of reasons and negotiate that with the city and
with ACHD to collect it at the certificate of occupancy stage. That's what we have done
here with this particular property. ACHD is, obviously, the driver of that. They are in
agreement of the deferral. City is fine with collecting it at a later point in time. Again, we
do control both the permitting side, as well as the occupancy side. So, on this particular
occasion on -- again, we don't do it very often. We probably in the last -- I think since
2019 we may have done it once. So, it's not something that's done a ton. But it is an
off-beat, so because of that we want to make sure was on the agenda for the Council to
approve it separately.
Simison: Thank you, Mr. Nary. Council, any questions for Mr. Nary?
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: Just because I'm curious, is the deferral -- if the city were to change impact
fees from the time that the deferral was approved until occupancy and the impact fee
would be said to be paid changes, is this locked in at the date of deferral or what's the
day that it would be due?
Nary: Mr. Mayor, Council Member Cavener, so they are calculated now at what they
would be today. We are just deferring the collection of it to later.
Cavener: Thank you.
Simison: Additional questions or do I have a motion?
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: Move that we approve Item 11 , the Impact Fee Deferral Agreement between
the City of Meridian, the Ada County Highway District, and JTR Holdings for the
property at 105 East Carlton Avenue.
Cavener: Second.
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Simison: Have a motion and a second to approve Item 11. Is there any discussion? If
not all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay? Recusing noted. Not responded
to.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE RECUSE.
12. Fiscal Year 2024 Budget Amendment in the amount of $35,000.00 for
purchase of an additional Unmanned Aircraft System (Drone)
Simison: With that we will move on to Item 12, which is for fiscal year 2024 Budget
Amendment in the amount of 35,000 for purchase of an initial unmanned aircraft
system.
Ludwig: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. With that said my name is Kyle Ludwig. I'm a
lieutenant with the police department and I am the commander assigned to the UAVs or
drone program currently. I'm here to request a budget amendment not to exceed
35,000 dollars for the purpose of purchasing a new large frame drone. Following the
double homicide incident in town we realized that there was a safety gap presented
while we were searching for the suspect trying to monitor the scene and conduct yard-
to-yard safety searches during that time frame. We exhausted the equipment we
currently have on hand, thus we had officers on search teams going into areas that
were unable to be cleared or unable to apply overwatch to and bring them into an
unknown situation, which is rather precarious for the officers and puts them in danger.
Additionally, once we located the fleeing suspect we were unable to adequately track
him, losing him at times as he was continuing to evade law enforcement, which
inherently puts the public more at risk as well. We feel that this one-time expense will
give the police department an additional large frame option. This allows us to fly in
more inclement weather, colder temperatures, hotter temperatures than our current fleet
does and will grant us the ability to provide constant coverage for our officers while
conducting these high risk operations. I will -- thank you and I will stand for any
questions from the Council.
Simison: Council, any questions?
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: Just a quick question. I'm supportive of the budget amendment, but one of
the things I have learned is when we bring new equipment on it's not just about now, it's
about a replacement cycle of the set equipment. So, can you help kind of the Council
understand -- and maybe there is a larger conversation when we go into budgets about
what is the replacement cycle for UAVs. Do we look at them the same as computers or
motor vehicles or something in between? Just help me kind of understand what the
lifetime ownership of this particular product is going to be for the department, barring
any circumstances that would make it unusable.
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Ludwig: The lifetime or the expectancy of those pieces of equipment -- we actually just
did two replacements this last budget cycle and added an additional piece of equipment
to the fleet. The replacement -- we purchased our last large frame drone in 2021 that is
still completely operational, but with the separation of the city into the northwest site
station and the central station the idea would be is that we could have adequate
coverage with both drones covering both of those areas of the community. The
replacement cycle is really contingent on software updates, technology changes, which
are, obviously, hard for us to predict, but we are continuing to operate with the 2021
drone with adequate software updates and we have made -- we made some
modifications to cameras and upgrades there. But the actual equipment is still fully
operational. So, it's hard for me to hypothesize. I would say somewhere between five
and seven years we are looking at a potential replacement and a lot of that's contingent
on what technology has changed, not necessarily to breakdown of the equipment.
Cavener: And Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: I think -- you know, I'm the -- the PD liaison now and so I think that may be
something that we can work with finance and team to come up with what is an expected
replacement schedule for UAVs, recognize they are still somewhat new, but to give I
think future council some understanding when you purchase a new piece of equipment,
baring it crashes or a suspect trying to do something to it, we will get X amount of years
out of it, so we can really understand what the -- the lifetime of that expense will be.
Ludwig: And we are trying to actually -- once I took over the program, Councilman,
actively tried to place those in the CFP, so we can kind of fork out -- so we are not
getting inundated with replacing the entire fleet at --
Cavener: Correct.
Ludwig: -- one time, but let's try to do this strategically and that's been my plan when I
took over the program.
Cavener: Great. I love hearing that. Look forward to working with you. Thank you.
Overton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Overton.
Overton: Lieutenant Ludwig, just to -- just for clarification purposes when we are
looking at a large frame UAV, we are not trying to replace personnel, we are not trying to
reduce the number of personnel needed, I believe we are trying to make it so when we
use them in large scale op, we use them and deploy them for more efficient staff.
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Ludwig: Yes. It's much easier for us as -- taking an incident where we have an
outstanding violent suspect, if we get a drone up into the air we can start identifying
potential hotspot regions through thermal imaging that would identify where a potential
suspect is. You can quickly -- or other locations, because there is no hotspot readings
there or it can identify small enough where it's going to get an animal or something of
that nature where you can bypass those locations and go to where those real heat
signatures are and, you know, when we are trying to apprehend a suspect, a heat
signature that's concealed or hidden in a deep corner or something of that nature, we
can provide that information to the officers on the ground, let them know, hey, there is a
potential threat location and the deep northwest corner of this next yard and they can
approach that in a much more efficient and safe manner. So, yes, it gives us the
opportunity to quickly deploy officers and be much more efficient.
Taylor: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Taylor.
Taylor: Thank you. Lieutenant Ludwig, I appreciate you bringing this. I have a quick
question. Could you -- I'm a new guy. Could you, please, just real briefly explain what
you currently have for assets here and -- and I understand kind of the difference as you
have described it what we have, could you just kind of describe the current assets and
the limitations that they have.
Ludwig: Yeah. So -- let me reference some notes if you don't mind. We currently have
on hand a M30 -- an M300, which was the original large frame drone that we
purchased. We just recently purchased this fiscal year an M30, which is -- it's
considered a large scale platform, but it does have some limitations as compared to the
M300 or the M350, which is the item that we are attempting to -- to get this amendment
so we can purchase. The biggest difference is battery runtime and flight time. Some of
the batteries have limitations when they can't charge when it's extremely cold. So, it
takes longer for them to charge when they are deployed in the outdoors, sometimes
upwards would have to be 41 degrees or warmer for us to actually get a charge onto
them. The biggest difference between the large frames really is flight time. So, the
ones that we have just recently purchased -- purchased this last year, the Mavic
platform, the max flight time or hover time, which ideally is what we are trying to do is
hover up above, so we can provide overwatch, is about 30 to 35 minutes. Typically
speaking we are going to rely on the lower end of that. The manufacturer's spec is 33
minutes and that's given no wind in the laboratory setting. These new drones in the
large frame drones can support flight time of up to 50 minutes, which, obviously, that's a
pretty big difference in time frame. We were talking about damages for returning the
drone battery change and, then, getting it back deployed and that's really where we
have seen that. Whereas if we have an extra large frame drone, as we are putting one
up we can get one in position and with their anti-collision software we can actually have
one operator flying two platforms, send one up and, then, bring the one that's down,
now we had that 55 minute time frame to charge it up, so we can continue to the
process. The problem with the Mavic platforms is that they can't operate at very cold
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temperatures. So, as soon as it gets below 14 degrees they are not operational, which
so given any circumstance in the last couple of days we would not be able to utilize
those programs -- those platforms and, then, they can't operate in any sort of
precipitation or high winds. Also, especially during the wintertime, in the winter months,
are going to limit the opportunity for us to utilize that platforms to large frames, the M300
that we currently have and the one that we are requesting the amendment for, those
consumption and rain, snow, winds in excess of -- oh, -- well, 12 mile an hour winds,
where the other ones are ten and a half mile an hour's -- is their wind resistance speed.
They can fly out further by an additional 1.5 kilometers and, then, again, flight time is
really the big thing with the battery changes. They come with battery warmers in cases
they deploy, so the batteries are constantly staying warm and up to temperature.
Simison: So, any additional questions?
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: If there is no other questions, I move we approve the fiscal year 2024 budget
amendment in the amount of 35,000 dollars for purchase of an additional UAV --
unmanned aircraft system.
Strader: Second.
Simison: Have a motion and a second to approve Item 12. Is there any further
discussion?
Taylor: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Taylor.
Taylor: Just if I could, a quick comment. So, I had the -- I don't know if you call it
opportunity or privilege, but this incident that you are describing, I watched it from my
second story window of my house. So, when you mentioned 30 to 35 minutes and 50
minutes, that's a significant deal and I'm -- and I'm watching the drones working and I
watched the officers and what was pretty amazing about the whole thing is my kids
were asleep, you know, it ended, you know, I could see it. The kids didn't know it
happened. The neighbors didn't know it happened. It was operated. It was quiet. And
I saw the drones doing the work and I'm convinced that that's led to other people not
being harmed in the situation and so I'm very supportive of it and I do think this is an
incredible asset to add to that, that in terms of officer safety, but also community safety.
So, I think it's a great addition and I -- you might think 30 to 35 minutes up to 50 minutes
doesn't seem like a lot, but I can just say in that current situation that was -- would have
been a significant difference and so --
Ludwig: Especially when we are trying to apprehend somebody.
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Taylor: Yeah. And to consider there may be circumstances outside of our control, like
whether that could inhibit what we have. So, I think this is a really smart addition. I'm
fully supportive of it.
Simison: Thank you. Council, any additional comments? All right. Clerk will call the
roll.
Roll Call: Borton, yea; Cavener, yea; Strader, yea; Overton, yea; Little Roberts, yea;
Taylor, yea.
Simison: All ayes. Motion carries and the item is agreed to.
MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES.
Ludwig: Thank you very much. I appreciate your support. Thank you.
Simison: Thank you, Kyle. Nice to see you here. With that we are at the end of our
meeting. Do I have a motion?
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: Move we adjourn.
Simison: Motion to adjourn. All in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay? The
ayes have it. We are adjourned.
MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 4:46 P.M.
(AUDIO RECORDING ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS)
2 / 6 / 24
MAYOR ROBERT E. SIMISON DATE APPROVED
ATTEST:
CHRIS JOHNSON - CITY CLERK