HomeMy WebLinkAbout2024-01-22 Mike and Malissa Bernard January 20, 2024
Re: CPAT H-2023-0057
Dear Mayor Simison, City of Meridian City Council, City of Meridian Planning and Zoning
Commission, and City of Meridian Planning Staff,
I caught the recent City Council meeting related to this topic. I have heard the Councilmember's
discussions. I did see the item on the agenda, and there were busy months with much to do. I think
we need to look at what has been built, to learn from those projects.
This amendment and the presentation prep took an incredible amount of time,thought, and follow-
up from Staff, and that alone warrants some admiration, and Brian McClure has reached out.
While this is a guideline for development and for a segment of future in-place residents,what the
nearby citizen is often left with other than a shopping or destination option is traffic, construction
noise, bigger projects built,going on for a decade or more as phases occur, and all those elements
alters the sense of one's home,yet it can be a great positive life enhancement swing,too. We
should consider nearby residents as well as a component with this amendment, as these invested
citizens and families are not merely hash marks along the edges of these multi-acre and multi-
phased plans, and you are setting the bar for the adjacent projects.
I think many that have been involved in testimony, participation, or comments at times feel
dismissed or there may be the incident of a citizen committee member feeling run off, and
therefore you might not get any participation or commentary if it isn't somewhat weighed with the
same respective currency re.their experience or value as a citizen navigating the products of
development. Having one or two token members of the community in a room that clearly doesn't
want them will get very few coming forth when those are lost to burnout and attrition, despite their
Love and concern for their community, and thus one may move on or be left feeling what is the point
of participation, and their motive to get involved in the first place is pure---they care.
As Councilmembers posed some great questions and made comments on how this will all look in
the future, I appreciate the wisdom and thought our elected Council demonstrates in our stead.
While my personal pocketbook isn't in the creation of these proposals, my pocketbook and the
community's dollars support these projects, or choose not to spend at these projects, because,
perhaps, of a hard-to-navigate and collaterally dangerous design, or impossible-to-find parking, or
the general pains and grumbling to use these areas. If so, one often finds a route elsewhere that is
conducive to wants, needs, and therefore the satisfaction and enjoyment of another project within
some reasonable proximity, or they wait for Amazon to rumble by to drop it on their porch.
Just some general comments below re.the amendment materials provided and general
impressions of Mixed Use today.Yes, I am a layman. I wish you all the very best.Thank you.
Malissa Bernard
4025 N Dashwood Pt
Meridian ID 83646
Cell: 208.599.3058
Email: mmbernard1@msn.com
First of all, I am impressed with the Staff Report provided by City Staff. While the subject
matter is very complex with many facets,this document was very informative. The website
unique to this topic was not unnoticed and everything is there to understand the importance
of Comprehensive Plan aspects, correlating existing conditions in our community,where we
started and where we want to go,and the amount of work to share that information is very
appreciated.
The following recommendation is to clarify that single-family homes,more broadly than just alley-loaded,
maybe appropriate in mixed use area. Note that changes recommended in the original application are not
shown here,only the additional recommended change. Sample uses appropriate in MU-N areas include:
single-family homes,alley-loaded single-family homes,single-family homes with accessory dwelling units,
townhouses, condominiums,small-scale multi-family developments such as fourplexes,neighborhood
grocers, drugstores, coffee/sandwich/ice-cream shops, vertically integrated buildings, live-workspaces,dry
clean er/laundromat,salons/spas, daycares,neighborhood-scale professional offices,gift shops,schools,
parks, churches, clubhouses,public uses, and other appropriate neighborhood-scale uses. Sample zoning
includes R-8, R-15, TN-R, TN-C,L-O,and C-N.
like the diversity of options for housing in new text as outlined above. This makes it easier to
transition to existing parcels and perhaps fill a particular need for a housing type that the
community lacks.
am particularly interested in the addition of the Missing Middle Housing Sampler, as I feel this
may also help provide housing on, let's say, a small acreage in the midst of our changing city
surrounded by coming development under the Mixed Use umbrella that may be very
complementary to existing conditions.This also gives a unique fresh parcel an opportunity to be
special for many as the market warrants variety and options. Some on-site ownership, perhaps?
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All mixed use projects should be accessible to adjacent neighborhoods by both automotive and alternative-
vehicular transportation opportunities. Pedestrian circulation should be convenient and interconnect
different land use types. Vehicle connectivity should not rely on arterial streets for neighborhood access. See
also figures:FA3, FA4, FB3, F84.
Better and thoughtful road designs need to be at the forefront of everyone's design brain, as
this interconnectivity element can overwhelm and change the character and sense of place in
adjacent neighborhoods and within the project. I think some basics of the relationships between
pedestrian and vehicle modes are covered,yet this might best apply to fresh open land. How does
this fit with established and existing?
Traffic flow and safe circulation is essential to these huge multi-acre parcels as well as every
application that comes to Council or the Commissioners,for all stages and abilities of life, as this is
not covered well in either Code or Comp Plan.
I would strongly suggest the City consider hiring a traffic engineer of its own, as we have
challenges of permanence or near-permanence that could have been avoided as soon as the
pre-application meeting occurred or post in-house engineer analysis, and costs certainly multiply
in submitting half-baked schematics with a tailored for-hire traffic report, and there needs to be
attempts to fix those errors before they come to pass. Mixed use flow is crucial as there are many
parts and impacts.
If Planning Staff is going to defer to ACHD and ITD,then I would suggest a strong technical
knowledge of street designs and policies to nip these issues in the bud at the onset, because the
application or schematic usually gets forwarded as fit by someone that does not necessarily have a
traffic engineering degree, and if ACHD is present at Council,they are often not the traffic engineer,
either, as pointed Council questions can run aground with no clear answer in Chambers.
Furthermore, ITD and ACHD are not particularly concerned with flow and circulation within non-
dedicated (to the agency) private traffic modes interior to projects, as in lanes, drive aisles,
potential choke points, buffers to lanes,who maintains the private lanes, etc.
To get any traffic calming or mitigation after the fact is met with daunting red tape and multi-
level policies. It takes several meetings at the Traffic Commission or many letters to ACHD to get a
simple mitigation effort underway, and while many in the impacted neighborhood are frustrated by
the speed, nature, and intensity of traffic,there is a lot of butting heads and posturing going on, and
this can be highly ineffectual. In fact, concerns and issues might actually result in an unsavory
take: taking a high-use local street with in-place residents to a new collector status suggestion,
often with a higher speed and no mitigation at all?
Here is an example as submitted in a PDF to ACHD for consideration with their newer traffic
calming policies coming forth with hearings in later Spring, perhaps? This residential is
transitional to a current nearly built out Mixed Use Regional designation, and it is very dependent on
roads not in compliance with current ACHD technical standards and policies. As these intensely
used Mixed Uses finally connect to a future collector and we have distances and safety standards
continually waived as applications come forth one-by-one cumulatively over the years,without a
current and future audit of the impacts, some conflict, accidents, or unfortunate casualties will
have a greater propensity to occur and that is a multi-agency risk. The commercial component
segment east nearest the light to future Centrepoint was in Boise, and the rest of everything else
was accepted by Meridian with waiving of ACHD policies because ACHD said ok. This square mile
was nearly fresh and new in 2000 with minimal development. There was ample opportunity to get
this right with appropriate mid-mile collector roads with appropriate neighborhood and commercial
designs.
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Non-residential buildings should transition to and compliment adjacent residential buildings in mass and
form and include safe and meaningful mitigation for operational impacts such as loading docks,storage,and
outdoor equipment. See also figures:FB2, FB4.
We need to avoid the foot-in-the-door stance with some development. An appealing project
comes forth,saying what we want to hear with the Mixed Use with all the inferred promises,
dazzling amenities,or road construction proposed to get the approval. Yet, once that occurs
multiple MDAs or ALTs or Modifications to the CUP come afterwards,and often the nearby and
adjacent residents are overwhelmed with hearing fatigue or feeling their neighborhood is going
to take another one for the team of the community at large and must suffer the actions of the
habitual line-stepper of the development interest. The entitlement could be held for decades, with
many revisions that are filed to vary from the initial concept, and this could lead to frustration or a
new five-story apartment complex surprise.
Transitions between different residential product types and dissimilar land uses should include the use of use
alleys,roadways with landscaped parkways,or highly connected open space. The use of barriers such as
closed vision fencing or walls that limit connectivity and reduce visibility are typically not appropriate as
transitions. See also figures:F81,FB2.
Without the guarantee of maintenance and appeal of the properties or keeping the business or
activity contained to the property that is dissimilar somehow in the original DA(let's face it...
DAs and compliance don't always have the teeth or the chomp necessary)why should the
neighborhood have to see what is going on at the hotel, or the apartment complex, or the
loading docks at all hours. The character and peace of invested Citizens'homes or
neighborhoods should always be considered and preserved when these applications come online.
Adequate visibility and such for law enforcement is so important, and this is, of course, an element
to consider, but a light buffer to a parking lot transition or tall building isn't appealing from an
established neighbor's backyard.
In some Mixed Use,the lofty hope of providing work-force housing on site or nearby so the
employees can walk to work with their lunch pail in hand within these projects is a dream to
chase. Few can afford the housing within these new and shiny projects, as they are often geared to
a particular luxury or near luxury price point and the majority of the people working on site of the
MU project maybe commuting, and the sites aren't along transit corridors. Meridian and many
municipalities are perhaps unintentionally creating a deep crater for many--a high percentage of
the community renting for near life will not create any personal wealth except for the landlord or
developer.
Which brings me to another point: Meridian homes have many an investor-owned property
that are squeezing out our citizens from buying a home. One can look to the Ada County
Assessor site to see the many trusts and interests not residing in the supposed more entry level
home. Delano single family is a glaring example of investors making it much more difficult for the
average citizen or family to own a home in our community, and it was touted as filling a need for the
community.
I know this CPAT vision is likely geared for living or better wage,yet the many young couples,
families,seniors that need to be close to services, or single persons will be outliers in the
periphery and not really be able to attain the high rent of these units unless we work in some
affordable units, and it has to be more than the token few units at a lower rate just to get the project
approved,while getting the pat on the back for providing affordable housing. Affordable for a very,
very small percentage of the units...is this enough? With all the hurdles for the citizen to get that
privilege or subsidy?
An overlooked and broke segment is our seniors, as the existing conditions report has a
marked increase in this demographic. As our citizens age and their fixed income buys less, lower
rent projects such as the Tramore apartments on Pine is a concept that could be elevated in newer
projects, as not everyone can afford to live at the amenity rich Bri with the appreciable rent or
interior gated project in line with Cadence or Blackrock Homes.
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Reno/Tahoe metro area is peppered with income threshold apartments in mixed uses,that are
not necessarily thrust into certain spots such as industrial, near airports, swampy land,
cheesy casinos, or by railway yards. Yes,they have permits costs waived and other income for
the city reduced substantially to get these built, and yes,they are, at times,financed by huge
sometimes foreign investment pools that may have a sunset clause to go to market rents in
decades forward,which is not so perfect. They may be taking advantage of touted Opportunity
Zones.
I would love to see a development titan group give this type of housing a whirl,with all the
incentives and bonuses. People there have attractive plants on their patios now, and potluck
dinners weekly to forge that sense of place and community. Local food cooperatives, programs,
and charities come via large trucks on a schedule to enhance their needs.Access Bus and VA
shuttle services are a frequent sight(small van bus).Just because the incomes to apply are capped
doesn't mean they are to settle in the margins of life that might have turned out differently than
imagined. Not rent controlled, as incremental increases do occur, but more affordable rents.
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We realize there is a game plan and a road map here, and this is very helpful to have these
updates to give guidance. We mustn't waver on key absolutes or near-absolutes. For example,
my square mile had designated and approved MU-R and conceptual commercial in accordance
with the Comprehensive Plan (pre-2019 update)that morphed to residential, and that residential
set the stage for high intensity densities in the area that might have been more transitional to the
conceptual commercial plat, as well as the block directly to the south of my block, and we are
slated to have nearly 600 high density units at NW corner Eagle/Ustick, and more in every direction.
We asked what was coming at purchase in 2012, and we were out of range of any notices to change
the plan in the years that followed, leading to the poorly planned rather plain Brickyard project.We
may need to be stronger in the early stages in Mixed Uses and while there are inherent property
rights, certain things should not be waived or compromised, and a collector should not bisect a
large residential community such as this with essential technical road specs waived.The major
road should have been sited easterly near the border of Faat Eddy's, now Jacksons or next to some
other transitional use by the project.A car wash so close to apartments?
Key commercial in our Comprehensive Plan has vaporized and we will never get the services
and merchants back. That means more travels to magnet shopping centers'meccas via arterials
or booking out weeks ahead for a simple haircut. That means the Village area clogged with burger
fanatics and the new hot Ten Mile proposal will be what was Milwaukee St. area by the mall back in
the day during our Holiday Season----A PARKING LOT as the citizens will not have adequate
essential retailers or services nearby their own homes---the rooftops. I think this update is
attempting to streamline tangible life enhancements, so that is a plus.
Mixed Use Neighborhood(MU-N)
The purpose of this designation is to allocate areas where neighborhood-serving uses and dwellings are
seamlessly integrated into the urban fabric.
As far as this definition and guidance goes, I appreciate the tree-lined streets and such,yet there
needs to be ample parking so as not to bleed into nearby residential.
Mixed Use Community(MU-C)
The purpose of this designation is to allocate areas where community-serving uses and dwellings are
seamlessly integrated into the urban fabric.
The intent is to integrate a variety of uses,including residential,and to avoid mainly single-use and strip
commercial type buildings.
Non-residential buildings in these areas have a tendency tend to be larger than in Mixed Use Neighborhood
(MU-N)areas,but not as large as in Mixed Use Regional(MUR)areas. Goods and services in these areas tend
to be of the variety that people will mainly travel by car to,but also walk or bike to(up to three or four miles).
Employment opportunities for those living in and around the neighborhood are encouraged.
Developments are encouraged to be designed according to the conceptual MU-C
plan depicted in Figure 3CE.
Mixed Use Regional(MU-R)
The purpose of this designation is to provide a mix of employment,retail,and residential dwellings,and public
uses near major arterial intersections. The intent is to integrate a variety of uses together,including
residential,and to avoid predominantly single use developments such as a regional retail center with only
restaurants and other commercial uses.
Developments should be anchored by uses that have a regional draw with the appropriate supporting uses.
For example,an employment center should have supporting retail uses;a retail center should have
supporting residential uses as well as supportive neighborhood and community services. The standards for
the MU-R designation provide an incentive for larger public and quasi-public uses where they provide a
meaningful and appropriate mix to the development. The developments are encouraged to be designed
consistent with the conceptual MU-R plan depicted in Figure 3DF.
In the body of this section,there is a reference to the last-mile or mile of transit services.
There has to be transit in the first place,which we often do not have as an option, and we may not
have the necessary users of the transit currently to warrant the investment. If the dirt needs to be
additional parking until the future transit options are there,then the developer has to eat that for
now. I noticed density bonuses cited as an incentive for planning for transit spaces.
As to the proposed design elements,what is often lacking is the separation from the nearby
single family residences by a local or collector road, or transitional buffer space. Often the
commercial is close to the lot line and does not provide for adequate transition between uses.
Local and collector roads off of arterials require specific spacing via technical requirements, and
this is often bypassed by the private road or lane integration which leads to problems of their own.
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Extreme thought and care needs to go into these projects, as it will be impactful to single
family residential,as this isn't geared towards adding new residential but there are a lot of
entitled high intensity use within these projects or zones, nevertheless. Cut-through traffic
needs to be discouraged through local road transitions via residential to mixed use designations.
Adequate on-site parking is a must to discourage employee and patron parking from bleeding into
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The purpose of this designation is to call out areas around SH-16 interchanges,and to acknowledge that this
land is very visible. These areas will be served by interchange ramps and restricted local access. There are
two SH-16 interchange areas,one located at US 20-26 and one at Ustick Road, that differ from the other Mixed
Use categories in that a much stronger emphasis will be placed upon gateway elements and traffic flow/trip
generation factors when reviewing new land use applications. Uses in these areas will need to be compatible
with the impacts of a freeway interchange. These areas are not intended for high volume trips, either
aggregated over the larger planned MU-1 area, or as individual use types. The intention is to protect the
immediate vicinity of the interchange from traffic conflicts and shift the high traffic-generating uses away from
the immediate vicinity of the interchange to other,nearby areas.
A graphic example for this portion would have been helpful.
As to: A traffic impact study or other traffic analysis may be required for developments in
these areas.
A detailed analysis and a traffic impact study is often a MUST. Again, a City traffic engineer of
our own is perhaps in our City's best interest as another set of qualified eyes can often find an issue
that may have been missed by the agency while this is merely on paper and could be remedied
before the shovels hit the ground.
Appendix F. Mixed Use Examples
A. Mixed Use Concepts with Additional Annotation
The following images are colorized versions of the mixed use concept included in the Land Use section of the
Comprehensive Plan. These colorized concepts include additional annotation styles that more closely align
with aerial examples of real mixed use projects in Appendix F,Section B. These are intended to better identify
different building types,and to correlate design features with actual mixed use projects.
This is a very informative piece. I must say this helps illustrate the concepts and wish list by
showing great pics and examples of Mixed Uses in our community and other areas, in addition to
the Staff Report.
I also am quite taken aback by the maximum building sizes and the heights of the buildings
being far too generalized and adaptable.These entitlements will stew for years, or decades,
before full build out, if the Village is any indication.
How could we justify this to an entire neighborhood that may have done its due diligence,
checked the comprehensive plan,called and asked questions about zoning,the building sizes
allowed,the meaning of the coming mixed use, and got that hefty 30-year mortgage for their
home, only to amend the Comprehensive Plan to allow for an open-ended size and height?
There are modes within Code to get that CUP, or the ALT or some other term,to be duly
presented and heard via the Public Hearing process,and listening to the community via the
neighborhood meetings,which should provide more notice than written in code, as the mail
might make it the day of the neighborhood meeting and that may be a factor in scant attendance.
I have found things that just don't work as intended in Mixed Use,and careful planning will be
beneficial.
We have to be somewhat overparked in code from present standards or the issues will come
forth. Here is an example at Centrepoint Mixed Use Collector with cars along a collector that are
parked. Parking is not allowed on either side of a collector road;the residents of these complexes
are demonstrating through habit and daily example there is not enough parking needed within their
communities as they park on the collector, on both sides of the collector.
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The same can be witnessed in the mixed use transitional areas between denser housing and
the commercial elements, such as Elsinore near Paramount. Despite the signs stating to only
park on one side the street, it doesn't stop people from parking where they wish. Once this area is
built out and fully occupied, how are the future designs of the coming infill projects going to contain
the traffic, parking, and use as intended versus exacerbating the issues at hand with parking bleed
onto collectors and roads not designed for heavy parking?
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coming,yet look at the edge of this roundabout with the heavy black marks left by tires. This is
indicative of a design flaw, heavy vehicle use, poor design for larger trucks to navigate, and not
enough slowing before the circle.
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That is against the Comprehensive Plan on several points, not to mention the apparent waiving of
collector buffer size policies, and this area needed those elements, and there was a lost
opportunity for multiuse pathways in close proximities to shopping and recreation.
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This plan looks great on paper and is very nice, but with the heavy planting on narrow sidewalks and
the intermixing of car traffic, enjoyment of this project can be greatly reduced and hard to navigate.
A lot of the foot traffic is forced to be nearly single file or squished sideways at points to give
everyone a bit of personal respective space. For ADA compliance and navigation,this flagrantly
flunks, in my opinion, at various points in the project as an unaccompanied person would have
some challenges.
PROWAG and ADA Policies should be incorporated as well into Mixed Use as a practice as
concerns for wheelchair turning spaces, entries to businesses, attendant space to walk aside a
person with a walker or cane/stick to aid the patron, and more policies from the cradle to latter life
stages,with the consideration of adding ADA compliant housing in some of our residential aspects
along with deeper driveways as to avoid vehicles in the right-of-way or parking spot.
US Access Board, PROWAG Link https://www.access-board.gov/prowag/and New PROWAG
Guidelines https://www.adainfo.org/wp-content/uploads/imported/1.4-Public-Rights-of-Way-2-
slides-per-page.pdfhttps://www.adainfo.org/wp-content/uploads/imported/1.4-Public-Rights-of-
Way-2-slides-per-page.odf ADA Standards vs PROWAG https://www.adainfo.org/wp-
content/uploads/imported/1.4-Public-Rights-of-Way-2-slides-per-page.pdf
ADA.gov: The Americans with Disabilities Act https://www.ada.gov/and https://www.ada.gov/law-
and-regs/ada/
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in very close proximity to residential. There is little setback, and separation is not adequate for
the volume of traffic here,via that lane or private drive aisle where lesser rules, lack of technical
specs, and concerns clash with real-life conditions.We frequently shop in this area, and cars can
be a ten or dozen deep at this point. The non-signalized access placed North to Ustick
(Culvers/Lowes) may draw traffic to the signalized intersection at Ustick and Records from this
shopping area. I would not feel safe navigating that sidewalk or comfortable with traffic so close to
a rental, as renters deserve a quality of life and sense of place,too. This was commercial first then
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Not our City's issue with this product,yet we could make the same mistake and as a nearby
community we use this area as well. I feel there was an opportunity in this example to have
another housing type in between Single Family Residential to heavily used Commercial. Chinden
and Linder. The screwy access often creates heavy traffic volumes into this residential at the
intersection or has the interior to the project commercial based traffic bleeding east/west(between
Linder and Meridian)to the north through a residential neighborhood with sections of full front-
facing housing and many SLOW DOWN signs.
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parking perhaps bleeding into the residential portion as this is under-parked for some hours
such as the gym peak hours or coffee fixes, as the shadows indicate this is in the AM. The drive
aisle leads to stacking at the intersection with this drive-through. This park-like area below is
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McMillan or Locust Grove idling right by residential or residential driveways.
feel this highly visible patch of alfalfa needs to be near perfect in every sense when it comes
forth. There is a church, school, daycare, and a high ratio of single family housing within the
already overwrought and highly intense Eagle Rd. area.
understand property rights, but this Comprehensive Plan update needs to be in place to have
the guidance to be very clear and not have loopholes or lost elements,or development may
gain some leverage regarding those holes that may be very impactful to peaceful established
neighborhoods, and this is surrounded by residential, primarily. I agree with maximum height
and building size standards, as that is a weakness that will perhaps be exploited, and some waiting
proposal for our City could pounce once the ordinance or amendment passes.
Perhaps specific zoning uses in the DA need to be assigned to these large parcels as to not
have incongruency in uses in proximity to residential or other businesses as tenants and
owners come forward, especially as many of these mixed use parcels are subdivided for
individual deed ownership, and as Councilman Taylor pointed out a change in the nature of the
use of the business or employment center which additionally could vary, as owners or tenants
move on, and a new business or industry moves in.
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collateral traffic not worked into our initial subdivision traffic materials. We need to honor the
spirit of original design plans and not just take the easy way out of hooking up to local roads
without calming and consideration to bypass collector access that was meant to take the
higher volume of traffic, and this is especially true for higher intensity densities and uses in close
proximities to single family established residential.
Apartments,the missing middle, or new residential should not rely upon a local street,for
example,as a primary or secondary route option over a suitable collector or interior lane
network so the older neighborhood just has to take one for the proverbial team. This also
applies to commercial traffic. I will provide the examples of the many beer and beverage trucks,
food product trucks, box trucks of all sizes for commerce, concrete trucks, contractors, and other
lumbering vehicles seeking a route north/south via Dashwood through Delano. We see this all the
time via our CCTV system, in fact,twice while I have been typing this. This was what we knew
would happen if this residential cut de sac were opened to traffic for all, so it was appropriate for
the emergency only/bike/pedestrian, and the occasional golf cart or motorbike.Those commercial
trucks certainly try cutting through residential neighborhoods. Connectivity isn't always by vehicle.
Here's a recent issue that was in front of the City of Meridian Traffic Commission. This is the
area of Franklin and Ten Mile Rd.that will be heavily patronized now and in the future. Orange
is a single vehichle lane that right in traffic will continue to attempt to use. It was designed as an
exit only lane and there was a sign to be place to discourage right in turns. The wished routes via
planning and the applicant of those using, let's say,the Starbuck's south of the orange line, is to use
the purple routes solely. People look for the quickest and easiest shortcut in this example and will
always continue to do so, and we must anticipate these conflicts and the bearings of human
nature, especially in a hurried and intense area of growth and stresses of that growth.
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Furthermore,with the current and coming intensity of the Ten Mile area, I am seeing a lot of
driveways. Ten Mile might not be the intensity of Eagle Rd. but it could very soon with many
driveways off of a road of heavy use with highway-like traffic and they are private lanes not
subject to ACHD standards,with more to come might increase conflict points and present
inabilities of those vehicles interior to these mixed use projects to merge onto Ten Mile leading to a
bigger stack, and stacked vehicles in lanes with impatient honkers behind may take more risks to
move into traffic. Adding a pedestrian or several to the mix might increase accidents.
These are some of the details and issues to anticipate within the ultimate design and what
could occur while these Mixed Use projects are thoughts before the blueprints, in guidance of
principles in the Comprehensive Plan,Applications, and Design Standards, and private lanes
internal to projects must be viewed as a roadway with implications for all, and traffic
engineering within such projects is just as crucial as those legally dedicated roads to ACHD and
ITD.
The solution proposed is to try a sign and hope patrons comply with the single lane meant as a
right-out southerly exit.
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6.01 .01f;. Develop ceiteria For}plan rrylew in determining whether a devcl€pmcnt proposal IS
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6_41 .02f3, Reduce the number ofexisiing acc7e&s poinu;omn arterial sireeLs. by using me6ad`-S
such as crux -access agrceramI . access management, and frontagcfbac kage road.-,.and
prom ong local gid col I cctor streci connectivity.
6,01_Q4A.Suppcxrt efforts to uwaJuate and pim for Future transporiation 3enices such as
public transit. on-dcrrand mm=.uuwnonwu*and shared N chic ley:.
agree with having strong language in the Comprehensive Plan amendment. It is a living
document, and all will cherry-pick supportive bits and will certainly seek variations and some
deviations from the guidance text in the Comp Plan as it comes before the hearing processes.
I still feel many future Conditional Use Permits within these Mixed-Use projects regarding any
rental-for-profits residential units should come before City Council, as it is often due to the
Council's decision that those units are in place in the Conceptual Plans and therefore should
be coming before out duly elected leadership over the appointed body of commissioners. as
some proposals are too just too big, complex, and controversial
We need more medium to medium-high density units or patio homes,townhomes, condos,for
purchase and ownership in areas of transition, and not just for single investors or investor pools.
As to density bonuses, some of these appear to be quite generous. I do realize this can be a
win-win for the community and developer, but it must be truly beneficial, purposeful, and of
appropriate use, and not a bunch of requisite buffers added for aesthetics only.
The trip capture hypothesis and therefore the lack of process re. Comparison Requirements
and Impacts for Bonuses could be shakily promoted upon unknowns and the concept plusses
could be arbitrarily touted under the loftiest of expectations. Reports for projects designed to
take trips off of roads have far too many variables for quantitative analysis that truly reflects the
benefits and/or burdens of the project. Any client-dependent traffic analysis for hire by the
development interest will customize the report to project the benefit without any explicitly proven
merit, and you won't really have any basis to counter that report without unbiased independent
analysis or public testimonies posing a different view for thought.
Variables such a projected population within the project and realized population due to
economy, demographic of age,cars per high intensity project,gas and insurance costs,
grocery and goods costs are all variables that will skew any plan analysis that could be geared
to look community-beneficial on paper.
I appreciate the capping of the residential densities parameters in some of the body of the
definitions yet some of the ranges are very broad. We have far too much of the entitled high
intensity densities that were once designated as commercial, and nowthose residential projects
have shifted into neutral throughout the valley and in some cases stagnant, especially in our
downtown. There is always the possibility of the foot-in-the-door scenario for place holding for
entitlements for decades with plodding forward momentum, and then the market conditions
supposedly change and the concept morphs into something else entirely.
As to page 6 of 92 CC—Commission Recommendations and Staff Report 1-9, 3.Areas of
Highlight, section b. Clarifications on Density and Gross Areas, this addresses Gross area and
refers to all areas considered with any given residential or non-residential portion. Parking and
open space for a residential project includes the supportive areas. Net density is not a term used in
the Comprehensive Plan...
Yet NET DENSITIES are an important piece for consideration in the scheme of the Mixed Use
Project,and such data should always be provided when applicants come forth with an idea for
consideration. There needs to be more showing of the work, as what appears to fall into the range
here might look a bit different when the parking, open space, and other factors are removed and
let's say the net density is far higher in intensity to nearby single family residential along the
borders,then those elements should be considered, not to stymie the applicant but rather ensure
necessary transitional elements and buffering may be most warranted to provide a softer, more
complementary placement of new-to-existing project scenarios.
appreciate the thoughts in streamlining and clarifying Mixed Use, as it has often been a point
of confusion or has been way too open to interpretation.
While the guidelines and examples have been provided, it will take comprehensive analysis
and very intensive work from Staff, input from the public,and the process to improve
concepts presented. How entitled projects come to pass will always be that wild card.
Collaborative efforts between adjacent properties and interests should be strongly
encouraged,to develop cohesive and complementary elements, and not piecemeal bits and bobs.
We have to proceed with great care, lest these areas fall into decay or are considered out of
fashion,as we can see what has occurred in mixed use concepts or regional draws of decades
past,for example,the Mall area in Boise or the rotting of the once busy draw of the Boise
Outlets or Vista Avenue in Boise,and the past habits of long strip type shopping of Chinden
and State St. I think Planning is trying to shape policies to avoid such decay. Yes, regional
draws, rooftops nearby, and commercial,with all the buzz words,yet, resulting in very car-centric
areas to navigate and it has lost some shine, appeal, and vibrancy. It is a huge responsibility on
Planning's shoulders and on your shoulders to get the best possible outcome for the community,
for years to come that stand the test of time.
Regarding 5.01.01 D, Plan forand encourage neighborhoods that provide reasonable pedestrian and bicycle
access to services like healthcare, daycare,grocery store,and recreational areas. ...The CPAT seeks to
improve these interrelated considerations. An area easier and safer to access by car,is likely to be visited by
cars.
AMEN! I live in an area for many things that I could hookup a trailer to my bike to run errands
or to use Kleiner Park,yet with the imminent danger posed by chaotic and overused Eagle Rd.
and the speeds thereof. The sidewalks are skinny, possibly not there at all, and not
commensurate to the intensity of this area. To make it in reasonable shape with a higher
percentage of odds for survival and level of safety, most of the trips are, regrettably, by car with a lot
of airbags.The same could be said in the future of the Ten Mile plans,the Fields,the coming
interchange, and other areas of focused development.
5.01.02A,Maintain and implement community design ordinances, quality design criteria,and complete street
policies to set quality standards citywide.
As infill and other projects come forth,we must be interconnected but not overrun, and due
diligence and a respectful responsibility to established, peaceful neighborhoods must stand in this
policy,with mitigation at the onset with ways to ease the traffic burdens throughout the square
miles, and not forcing one or two local residential streets to become de facto collectors in absence
of applying good design (no front-facing housing)two or three decades before the newer projects.
Waltman Ln. area is an example,forcing de facto collectors through a neighborhood with front-
facing housing from intensive high use mixed-use areas, east/west between Meridian Rd to Linder
Rd.We all know Eagle Rd.was a blatantly missed opportunity on so many levels.
Neighbors here have every right to be concerned, as traffic theory is nothing new and this needs to
be avoided, either through directives in the Comprehensive Plan or through policies in Code, or
Design Principles.The fact is local street technical standards are cheaper over more involved and
appropriate collector design. I have tried this route. Easy. Mixed Uses and Connectivity elements
need better thought and design, and not merely splicing in because there is a stub from twenty to
thirtyyears past that in the intensity of growth and densities presented today has a completely
different feel from the neighborhood feel expected from the Citizens.
Tower Bridge Subdivision, sited north of 1-84, between Locust Grove and Eagle Rd.
Appropriate collectors, interior lanes for traffic, and safe connections for carriage of traffic within
such areas is a must to be successful for commerce and citizens.
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While the testimony below was a hearing for a sliver of land along 1-84 for Rackham Estates
Rezone and Annexation,with the bonus height addressed for yet a different hearing,and the
apartments another aspect,this was a neighborhood fraught with hearing fatigue and left with
issues that still have not been adequately addressed from past hearings,and some issues
should be addressed when big projects loom over residential.
In reference to Mr. Blower's testimony below: Continuations do not need updates on signs on
the fringe of neighborhoods re. new dates, either, and neighbors may assume the decision is
over or be confused to what is the new date, as continuation upon continuation leads to hearing
fatigue, and quite frankly in some applications(not this one) I feel it is employed as an
advantageous strategy orjuke move by the applicants.
Planning and Zoning Commission Minutes, March 2, 2023,
https://webLin1<.meridiancity.org/WebLin1</DocView.aspx?id=290986&dbid=0&repo=MeridianCity
Blowers: Sure. Michael Blowers. 13250 Rolling Hill Drive, Meridian, Idaho.And the purpose of me
joining this call--it's kind of weird. I have been a part of this process--remember the first meeting--
not necessarily about this--probably2015,just about the plans for this area,and I'm on here
initially to say like--I know February2nd I'm not sure what happened. I think it was a continuance or
something. You know, there was questions about raising the buildings 20 feet or whatever and I'm
just here to say at this stage of the game in support of it, don't really care at this point, but the
reason why I'm coming here to comment on it is--I believe Mr. Wheeler--I went back and watched
the video, because I wasn't able to attend, and it was refreshing to see some sort of empathy
for the R-40--or the residential portion situation. But a comment that I just couldn't let go that was
said at the end of that was--but at the same time no one --no one is here to fight it and I just
wanted to--because I'm not sure--and I apologize for this. I don't know who is new. I'm bad with
faces. So, I know there is--there is new people here. But I just wanted to clarify that at this stage of
the game, the reason why many of us didn't attend or none of us attended is we have attended these
Planning and Zoning Commissions for things that we saw as obvious no's and time and time again
were dismissed and so of all the things that have happened so far on this project, this ranked one
hundredth on the list of things we cared about. I mean we --we still don't even have a place to turn
around a vehicle on our street because of this project. We still have 40 foot semis that have to back
out into Overland Road at 5:30 during rush hour traffic, because they can't turn around and so if we
can't even get something like that done, why would we expect our voices to be heard on something
like this?And the-the other comment was that you liked in-fill projects, which maybe I'm wrong
with the terminology--this wasn't necessarily an in-fill project, there was about 15 homes as you
can see on that imagery right there that were demolished for this to happen. So,just to give some
history,just in case --I know it's been going on for a long time. We do very much care. We just know
that it doesn't matter and that's all I wanted to say.
Seal: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Blowers. Is there anybody else that would like to testify?
Somebody else indicating online?No more questions for the applicant or staff?Okay.
With that I will take a --well, actually, Mr. Wardle, is there anything you would like to add?
Okay. With that I will take a motion to close the public hearing for File No. H-2022-0085.
Smith:So moved.
Grace:Second.
Seal:It's been moved and seconded to close the public hearing for File No. H-2022-
0085.All in favor indicate by saying aye. Opposed nay?Okay. The public hearing is
closed.
MOTION CARRIED:SIXAYES. ONEABSENT.
Seal: Yeah. I will--I'm appreciative--basically you are coming in here and tying up the
loose ends on this. So, this has been,you know, a hotly contested project,you know,
overall. There were--I--I think that the applicant has worked with the people in the area
in order to--to do some things that--that were kind of common sense, and they were,
you know, at--at the direction of--of—of the Commission and--and of City Council and
--you know, I mean it's--it's--it's a difficult area for sure,just because of--I mean you
--you have a really--you know,you have one of these little enclaves of,you know, county
properties that are in there of people that are used to a slower, quieter lifestyle and,you
know, now they are surrounded by multi-family and TopGolf. So,you know, it--it's been
a tough application all the way. But I--you know, I think what's going in there is--is
appropriate for the zoning. It's--you know, it--it—it has--it-it has hit some roadblocks
along the way that are cleared out, so--I mean it is tough to--I--I do feel for some of
the people that live there that are going to have this in their backyard for a little while, but
it is what it is.Any--any comments?I will take comments, criticism, motions.
Smith:Mr. Chair?
Then it proceeded to a quick motion to recommend approval,with the question: Has anything
changed with semis rolling down the street?As presented over several hearings? Issues with
Mixed Uses and their approvals need to be anticipated and dealt with.Yes,this is a county enclave,
but chamber decisions brought the issues forth.
The February 2nd hearing addresses the height of the ESI Office Building as referenced in the March
2, 2023 hearing for the nearby sliver of land. Page 20 of 40 of the minutes has a concerned resident
at South Topaz Ave.wanting for a traffic study of impacts. Commissioner Wheeler commentary is
page 23-26 of 40
Planning and Zoning Hearing Minutes, February 2, 2023
https://webLink.meridiancity.org/WebLink/DocView.aspx?id=289283&dbid=0&repo=MeridianCity
Every resident in any nearby neighborhoods of expected Mixed Use could have done all the
incredible due diligence poring over every scrap of code or policy or zoning in every city,
county,or agency before buying,and now the open ended sizes of buildings and heights could
impact tens of thousands throughout the city positioned near Mixed Uses, as Rolling Hill was
impacted by a new Comp Plan, and possibly this or other amendments afterwards. In this case,
Rolling Hill and nearby residents are not buffered by anything to lessen the impacts felt, and with
open ended sizes and heights that could apply to Mixed Use throughout the City,we are left feeling
rather unsure and insecure about this aspect. We are assured verbally in Chambers that this will all
be contextual to the site,yet without an iron clad guarantee and the fact that we know how process
can swing a bit wildly at times this makes me feel a bit more pale.
An audit of existing conditions in the targeted area of Mixed Use applications and the impacts
of the new shiny project must be considered, and expected traffic impacts should be mitigated
as soon as the project/projects are built, and perhaps that should be a condition to consider in our
Comprehensive Plan as well.
As to Policies for Reference Only: 30.07.02F, Coordinate with transportation agencies to align
future needed infrastructure with land use plans and implement through the development review
process.
While this is a reference only,we often put the freshest development interest first,then we
have to sit and wait for the improvements in the 5-or 10-or 20-year outlook, because we are
growing out of sync without the appropriate infrastructure, often with the shrug that we don't own
the roads, and I have noticed we have been paying that house(agency) much more than what we
are getting(Taylor and Little-Roberts Idaho Press, and other remarks in Chambers).
I appreciate the novel approaches of STAR monies and other incentives to collaborate to get that
extra lane, stop lights, or other improvement that is not in the near-future plans of the
transportation agencies and I supported the Linder overpass money, but sometimes safety and
traffic carriage suffers, and unfortunately the death toll of pedestrians just trying to navigate the
intensities of our newer urban landscapes is just too high.
As to the variations and values in Density, Coverage Areas,Total Dwelling Units, and Variations
in Impacts, I would always consider access, response time, a real-life run to get to an
emergency in a multi-level structure surrounded by parking, under-parked with cars in no-park
zones, heavy uses in the impacts, etc. We mustn't shoehorn maximized densities with added
bonuses at the expense of public safety, and density bonuses must be applied gingerly under the
best and possibly worst of scenarios,with average growth factor annual percentages applied as the
parcels formerly known as cornfields yield to growth.A five minute goal could easily creep up to 10-
15 minutes due to the popularity or intensity of the projects and proximities thereof.
The stress and impact of an emergency that has less than optimal outcomes is a heavy burden
to bear among our first responders, and they have my heart and support always. I appreciate the
new Police Precinct and Fire Stations, as that forward thinking will be of benefit to all.
There is much to like and admire about our City, as I truly love it and the friendly people make it
great. Our parks are a wonderful amenity enjoyed by many citizens. Out-of-town visitors point out
what they like, and what they are boggled by: traffic and highways cutting through residential and
commercial zones alike,where there may be better carriage,thought, and separation in their own
communities. Not trying to focus on the negatives but we can improve on those issues via
mitigation or better design,for a level of great success and opportunity realized with general
benefits to the Mixed Use investors and the community at large.
know many meetings occur before the Mixed Use comes forth as an application, but we do
lose a bit when the property right has a plan with a lot of wrongs that could prove to be an issue with
the surrounding area, and I hope we can get ahead of those soon, especially as we grow. We may
just have to go a little slower along the way with that huge mixed use project to get the best possible
fit that is beneficial for year to come.
Please incorporate better Collector design, connections that make sense and do not overrun a
section of our community,with better interior commercial lanes, and better designs for roads with
heavier use count of present or expected future impact, and no front-on housing with roads
groomed to connect or be among the busiest in the residential subdivision, please.
Perhaps our newer square miles for development need major mid-mile traffic collectors and
lesser trafficked collectors within residential and corner mixed use for traffic, lined up with
appropriate mid-mile and accepted quarter mile points for future lights as needed. I know
parcels and topography limitations are variables, but we need to think about our emergency
services,future detour needs for construction and capital improvements, navigation around a
crash element or gas leak, coming mixed uses, and residential needs for traffic within
neighborhoods and traffic burdens that are fairly distributed. General idea with internal roundabout
with mid-mile collectors in blue, lesser collectors in yellow.