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PRE~COUNCIL MEETING
REVISED AGENDA
Revised
I 6-30-03 I
CITY OF MERIDIAN
Tuesday, July 1, 2003 at 5:30 p.m.
City Council Chambers
1. Roll-call Attendance:
~ Tammy de Weerd X Bill Nary
V Cherie fv1cCandless X Keith Bird
~ Mayor Robert Corrie
2. Adoption of the Agenda:
3. Executive Session as per Idaho Code 67-2345 (1)(b):
(30 minutes*) /uJ dec;/J /cn...J
4. Discussion of 2000 Edition of the International Fire Code with Joe
Silva: d/.rcur.r etqa;h- c:v-c. /Ju.q,..u.[-J. rZ,of-!:- fJrR-Cou.--n.~
(20 minutes*) d (/
* Approximate allowable time set for agenda item may change depending on
discussion. Please use the designated time as a guideline only.
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MAYOR
Robert D. Corrie
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PARKS & RECREATION
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PUBLIC WORKS
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BUILDING DEPARTMENT
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PLANNING AND ZONING
(208) 884-5533 - Fax 888-6854
CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
Tammy de Weerd
William L. M. Nary
Chelie McCandless
Keith Bird
RE-NOTICE OF PRE-COUNCIL MEETING
(Amended 6-30-03)
MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of Meridian
will hold a Pre-Council Meeting at City Hall, 33 East Idaho Avenue, Meridian,
Idaho, on Tuesday, July 1, 2003 at 5:30 P.M. The Meridian City Council will be
discussing the following agenda items:
- Executive Session as per Idaho State Code 67-2345(1}(b)
- Discussion of 2000 Edition of the International Fire Code
The public is welcome to attend the pre-council meeting but the executive
session is closed to the public.
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DATED this 30th day of June, 2003.
33 EAST IDAHO. IvIERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642
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July 18.2003
MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL MEETING
APPLICANT
REQUEST Approve minutes of July 1, 2003 Pre-Council Meeting:
July 22, 2003
ITEM NO. ~-A
AGENCY COMMENTS
CITY CLERK:
CITY ENGINEER:
CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR:
CITY ATTORNEY
CITY POLICE DEPT:
CITY FIRE DEPT:
CITY BUILDING DEPT:
CITY WATER DEPT:
CITY SEWER DEPT:
CITY PARKS DEPT:
MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT:
ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT:
SANITARY SERVICE COMPANY
CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION:
SETTLERS IRRIGATION:
IDAHO POWER:
US WEST:
INTERMOUNTAIN GAS:
MERIDIAN POST OFFICE:
OTHER:
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PRE-COUNCIL MEETING
REVISED AGENDA
Revised
I 6-30-03 I
CITY OF MERIDIAN
Tuesday, July 1, 2003 at 5:30 p.m.
City Council Chambers
1. Roll-call Attendance:
X Tammy de Weerd X Bill Nary
o Cherie McCandless X Keith Bird
X Mayor Robert Corrie
2. Adoption of the Agenda:
3. Executive Session as per Idaho Code 67-2345 (1)(b): No Decision
(30 minutes*)
4. Discussion of 2000 Edition of the International Fire Code with Joe
Silva: Discuss again at August 12th, 2003 Pre-Council meeting
(20 minutes*)
*Approximate allowable time set for agenda item may change depending on
discussion. Please use the designated time as a guideline only.
Meridian City Council Pre-Council Agenda - July 1,2003 Page I of I
All materials presentcd at public meetings shall become property of the City of Meridian.
Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents ,md/or hearings
please contact the City Clerk's Office at 888.4433 at least 48 hours prior to the public mceting.
Meridian City Pre-Council Meetina
July 1,2003
The Pre-Council Meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 5:30
P.M. on Tuesday, July 1,2003, by Mayor Robert D. Corrie.
Members Present: Mayor Robert Corrie, Bill Nary, Keith Bird, and Tammy de
Weerd.
Members Absent: Cherie McCandless.
Others Present: Kenny Bowers, Bill Nichols, Nick Wollen, Mike Worley, Pauline
Skeggs and Will Berg.
Item 1.
Roll Call Attendance:
X Tammy de Weerd X Bill Nary
o Cherie McCandless X Keith Bird
X Mayor Robert Corrie
Corrie: Tuesday, July the 1st 2003 at 5:30 P.M. Would have roll call attendance
please with the clerk.
Item 2.
Adoption of the Agenda:
Corrie: Item number two is the adoption of the agenda and we have two items
on the agenda on the Pre-Council. One is executive session and a discussion of
the 2000 edition of the International Fire Code with Joe Silva. What is the
Council's pleasure?
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: I move we adopt the agenda as presented.
Nary: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and second. All in favor say aye. All ayes motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 3.
Executive Session:
Corrie: I will entertain a motion to go into executive session at this time. Do we
have the piece of paper there?
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July 1,2003
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De Weerd: Mr. Mayor I move that we move into executive session per Idaho
State Code 67-2345 item (b).
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and second to go into executive session. Roll call vote Mr.
Berg.
Roll-Call vote: De Weerd, aye; Bird, aye; Nary, aye; McCandless, absent.
(Enter Executive Session)
(Return from Executive Session)
Corrie: Okay I will entertain a motion to come out of executive session.
Bird: So moved.
Nary: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and second to come out of executive session. Any
debate? All in favor say aye. Motion carries. Let the record show that no legal
decisions were made in the executive session.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Item 4.
Discussion of 2000 Edition of the International Fire Code with
Joe Silva:
Corrie: Number four on the Pre-Council meeting is discussion of the 2000 edition
of the International Fire Code with Chief Bowers sitting in for Joe Silva who had
to go on a fire call. So chief.
Bowers: Is this on Will?
Berg: Yeah it's on.
Bowers: First off I'd like to thank everybody that showed up yesterday to the
dusty dirt blowing, dirt throwing at Fire Station number three, that is going to be a
very important step for the City of Meridian and the Meridian Rural Fire
Protection District. Thank you for showing up. Question, is Bill Nichols going to
be in this session?
Bird: He's back talking with - Nick's here.
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Bowers: Okay. Mayor Corrie and City Council members, like we said Joe just
had to head off to Saint Luke's so. I was hoping maybe Bill Nichols would be
here if you had any questions any concerns on the new ordinance for the
International Fire Code. In 1995 we had an ordinance in the City of Meridian
we've adopted parts of that into the new International Fire Code right along with
the State of Idaho which adopted the International Fire Code in January, so
we've kind of put a couple parts and pieces together to make one. I was
wondering if you guys had any concerns or questions what Bill Nichols had gave
you guys to read.
Corrie: Kenny I don't have any real heartburn with any of it. But a question is do
you feel that this ordinance will bring us up to snuff as far as the fire codes and
that, that was not there before?
Bowers: Yes everybody basically is trying to go to one fire code across the
United States and I hope it works. I'm sure there will be some hold outs but it
would sure be nice for the developers and the contractors to be able to work in
different areas and be able to use the same code.
Bird: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Kenneth I disagree on - I don't think you need an International Code
because every area is different. We've got a long - this is strictly a code that has
been put in by the fire union pushing it. I don't know if we went to AGC - have
we taken this, has anybody in the State taken this to the developers and the
builders that have actually put the money out to see how much more this costs
for a building? I think with sprinkler systems and stuff you have it pretty well
covered, especially for this area. Why would Boise Idaho want to have the same
codes, building codes, which this is a building code then New York City or LA
does or something like that where they are putting up 100 story high rises and
you know we got 25 stories going up and that's the biggest thing you are talking
about. I have a real problem. I would like to know what AGC and VEA and some
of these people personally thought about this and I realize that you are in a
situation that you didn't go probably - I didn't know if Joe did or who did or
anything else. Just because the state passed it I don't think Meridian Idaho has
to pass it.
Bowers: That is a good concern.
Bird: I think we need to look and see if we are covered and I can't believe we
are not covered.
Bowers: That is a very good concern.
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Bird: The other two Councilmen might disagree with me but I just don't - just
because the State of Idaho adopted the 2000 Fire Code doesn't mean it's the
best thing for Meridian Idaho.
Corrie: What's the down side Kenny in not adopting this? We still have the old
one right?
Bowers: Instead of staying with the old one? I believe that and maybe
Councilman Bird possibly knows more about this than I do but possibly I would
think that the 2000 Fire Code and the new building code would mesh together
better instead of having a building code at a 2000 year and a Fire Code and 97
or something like that. I don't know if they would really mesh that well. And my
question would be maybe to Bill Nichols would be is do you know if anybody by
any chance has talked to the BCA or the Building Contractors or anybody Bill on
that?
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council. I'm not aware of whether that has
occurred or not, I think my recollection of those, generally these uniform codes
have been promulgated out and sent out to these different groups. I think this is
the code that Nampa is operating under. And I can't remember now I may have
recently sent out something that - I'm not sure about Kuna rural.
Bowers: All rural districts go under the State of Idaho. They don't have to adopt
them. The State of Idaho adopts for all rural districts.
Bird: Ken do you know off hand Boise adopted, Eagle adopted, Star have they
all adopted this? Maybe.
Bowers: I can't tell you Councilman Bird on Boise maybe Bill Nary can but like I
said Eagle and Star are districts so they -
Bird: That's right so they automatically.
Bowers: Yeah Kuna, Eagle and Star the State has adopted for them.
Bird: Kenny I understand that because you know they basically have to stay
under the state and adopt something. But we are a city that have our own
building permits and our own building things and I just have a - its not that if it
come up for vote that I might not vote for it but right now I just don't like
somebody coming in here and telling me we have to adopt it because I don't see
there's any penalties if we don't adopt it. I think our fire code right now is very
very safe. I think our buildings built here in Meridian are just as safe or safer
then the ones built in the big cities. Just because New York City needs an
International Building Code I don't say that Meridian, Idaho a little town of 35,000
needs it, the same code. So that's the only thing I'm against and I don't think
Boise's passed it.
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De Weerd: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: I guess Kenny when I talked with Joe about this he had been in
conversations with Nampa. I think Nampa made a few amendments to it. You
can't make them lesser but you can put more on. And I guess in our
conversations Boise never came up. My concern is not similar to Councilman
Bird's, I know our development community has said they would like to have more
consistent standards across the valley and we heard that when we adopted the
International Building Code. That they would like to start seeing that there are
consistencies instead of in this city you do this this way and this city you do this
this way. It is more predictable, it gives for better planning and bid processes.
So and I think that is why Joe started this process to bring it up to the standards
that others were starting to adopt. And so Councilman Bird I think that was a lot
of it. As I understand also from our Public Hearings with the International
Building Code the AGC the BCA they have input at the State level into these
codes and having opportunities to comment and really bring testimony. But
where I do agree with Councilman Bird and I think that because we are looking at
our fees and Joe is working with these different agencies to make sure we have
all the comments on the fees. If he can just ask them when he is talking to them
if they have any specific concerns about the International Fire Code that we can
continue this and hear it at the same time that we consider the fees and kind of
try and package it all in one public hearing if the Council would be open to that.
Corrie: I think that would probably be a good idea. I'm a little concern that Mr.
Bird is concerned and that makes me concerned. He's been around construction
a long long time and he knows the ins and outs and if he's got some concerns so
do I because of that. So I think that is a good idea Kenny have them talk to them
and when he brings this all back under one package then we can make a
decision at that time. I think that's probably a very good idea Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: So we could maybe put it I think that ones open for conversation on
the 22nd. Is that correct?
Bowers: Deputy Chief Silva will be gone on vacation that week so we might have
to make another date there.
Corrie: August the 5th. There is five Tuesdays in July. It looks like the 5lh of
August would be the first one that comes up then.
Bowers: Would the second week be better if he gets back. He'll have some
more time to work on it.
Bird: Yeah probably.
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Bowers: The second Tuesday?
Corrie: The 12th of August?
Bowers: Yeah.
Corrie: If that meets the approval of Council.
Bowers: And Mayor Corrie, Councilman I have one question. Bill Nichols is
there anything else we need to look at per say?
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council. What we did when we put this
together is we looked at, worked with Joe to come up with the exceptions or the
little tweaks if you will to the International Code. There was for example part of
the code that does make the - I can't remember the officer but a particular
individual would become a for cause employee which conflicted with the
personnel manual. So we went through those things, we cleaned those up and
did the ones that Joe felt were important and that's why you see those
amendments and those changes in there but the overall (inaudible) just follow the
international code, so I'd defer it to the fire experts as to the wisdom of adopting it
but I think Joe can certainly highlight the differences between the existing code
and what this one would do and then it gives us time to also look at whether BCA
and the other development groups those sort of folks whether they've had any
feelings input that sort of thing.
Bird: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: If I should add one more thing. Kenneth I think it would be very smart to
talk to some insurance people seeing how they write most of the policies. You
know. See if this International Code how well it helps the developers in their
bottom line pocket book of how much they are going to pay. I mean we've
already got the sprinkler system in which pays for itself in I guess in five to six
years they'll tell you which I think is very true and they got some other things.
But I think we are forgetting one industry that is in a fire situation is the biggest
one and that's our deal there. So I would have them look into it and see what
they think also.
Bowers: You bet that'll be fine.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
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De Weerd: I guess one more question I would have and I don't know if Mr.
Nichols could answer this right off the bat but because we are a rural and a city
Fire Department if we don't adopt it and - does our rural commission adopt it and
we don't, are you operating on two different codes?
Bowers: We would be yes. We would be.
Bird: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Yes Mr. Bird.
Bird: I think they need to look at the Joint Powers Agreement that was signed
two years ago.
Corrie: To see which way they have to go.
Bowers: We will do that.
De Weerd: Thank you.
Corrie: Thank you Kenny.
Bowers: Thank you very much.
Nary: Was the intent on the 22nd to hear it at a Pre-Council again?
Corrie: Yes Pre-Council. Yeah we wanted to discuss it then. August 1 ih Pre-
Council.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: I guess Kenny when is Joe going on vacation?
Bowers: The 1 yth.
De Weerd: And he'll be gone?
Bowers: To the end of the month.
De Weerd: Okay. Does he want this on Pre-Council then? The fee schedule's
are in public hearing.
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Bowers: That's right, that is correct. My question I would think that the City
Council probably would want it on a Pre-Council again for any questions or any
concerns again.
De Weerd: Before it gets through the public hearing process. Okay.
Bowers: I'm sorry I cut off Bill Nichols he was going to say something.
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council. I think you want to keep the two
issues separate. Because it will may be that you find out BCA says yes this is
the greatest thing since (inaudible) and those kinds of things and you need to
know that up front then you don't need to burden the regular council meeting with
that information. Then got over the hurdle of why this should be adopted or what
those other issues are.
Bowers: Thank you.
Corrie: Okay then it will be Pre-Council 12th of August. So be it. Okay that takes
care of the Pre-Council agenda unless there's something else that (inaudible). I'll
entertain a motion to close the Pre-Council hearing.
Bird: So moved.
De Weerd: Second.
Corrie: Motion been made and seconded to close the Pre-Council meeting at
6:45. Any further comments? All those in favor say aye. All ayes motion
carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 6:45 P.M.
(TAPE ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS)
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PARKS & RECREATION
(208 888-3579 . Fax 898-5501
PUBLIC WORKS
(208) 898-5500 .Fax 887-1297
BUILDING DEPARTMENT
(208) 887-2211 . Fax 887--1297
PLANNING AND ZONING
(208) 884-5533 . Fax 888-6854
CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
Tammy de Weerd
William L. M. Nary
Cherie McCandless
Keith Bird
RE-NOTICE OF PRE-COUNCIL MEETING
(Amended 6-30-03)
MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of Meridian
will hold a Pre-Council Meeting at City Hall, 33 East Idaho Avenue, Meridian,
Idaho, on Tuesday, July 1, 2003 at 5:30 P.M. The Meridian City Council will be
discussing the following agenda items:
- Executive Session as per Idaho State Code 67-2345(1)(b)
- Discussion of 2000 Edition of the International Fire Code
The public is welcome to attend the pre-council meeting but the executive
session is closed to the public.
DATED this 30th day of June, 2003.
33 EAST IDAHO · MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642
(208) 888-4433 . Fax (208) 887-4813 . City Clerk Office Fax (208) 888-4218 . Human Resources Fax (208) 884-8723
June 27, 2003
Pre-Council Meeting
July 1,2003
MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL MEETING
APPLICANT Meridian Fire Department
ITEM NO.
3
REQUEST Discussion of 2000 Edition of the International Fire Code with Joe Silva;
AGENCY COMMENTS
CITY CLERK:
CITY ENGINEER;
CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR:
CITY ATTORNEY
CITY POLICE DEPT:
CITY FIRE DEPT:
CITY BUILDING DEPT:
CITY WATER DEPT:
CITY SEWER DEPT:
CITY PARKS DEPT;
MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT:
ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT:
SANITARY SERVICE COMPANY
CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION:
SETTLERS IRRIGATION:
IDAHO POWER;
US WEST:
INTERMOUNTAIN GAS;
MERIDIAN POST OFFICE:
OTHER;
See Attached Proposed Ordinance
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Sharon Smith
From: Sharon Smith
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 9:51 AM
To: Joe Silva (E-mail)
Cc: Marlene Sf. George (E-mail); Tara Green; Will Berg
Subject: RE: Fire Code Ordinance
This could go to pre-council on July 1 st if I have a note from the Mayor to do so by Thursday
AM. Please just send the mayor a draft copy of the ordinance with a memo requesting pre-
council discussion. THEN at that pre-council meeting, Council would advise staff & the clerks
office as to when they want it on the regular agenda, say in a week or two.
----Original Message-----
From: Marlene St. George [mailto:ms@WHITEPETERSON.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 9:31 AM
To: 'bergw@meridlancity.org'; 'Sharon Smith'; 'Tara Green'
Cc: 'silvaj@meridiancity.org'; Bill Nichols
Subject: FW: Fire Code Ordinance
Could one of you gi ve Joe a possible status as to when this matter might be placed upon a Pre-Council
agenda, and then placement on the Regular Agenda when it has been approved through Pre-Council?
Thanks, Marlene
Marlene St. George
Legal Assistant
White Peterson
5700 East Franklin Roadt Suite 200
Nampat I[laho 83687-8402
208-466-9272 Ext. 111
ms@wltite]leterson.com
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-----Orig ina I Message-----
From: Joe Silva [mailto:sllvaj@meridiancity.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:51 AM
To: 'Marlene St. George'
Subject: RE: Fire Code Ordinance
Marlene
When will this go to CoucH?
Joe
-----Origina I Message-----
From: Marlene St.George [mailto:ms@whitepeterson.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19,2003 10:21 AM
To: 'bergw@meridiancity.org'; 'Tara Green'; 'Jessica Johnson'
6/26/2003
.t'age L or L
Cc: 'Joe Silva'; Bill Nichols
Subject: Fire Code Ordinance
Will: Please find attached the proposed Fire Code Ordinance. You will need to speak with Mayor Corrie
to have this placed on a Pre-Council agenda, with placement on the Regular agenda when necessary.
Council may want to have a public hearing before adopting it. Also, Mr. Silva may have some fees to
propose that would require a hearing. Thanks, Marlene.
6/26/2003
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Sharon Smith
From: Marlene St. George [ms@WHITEPETERSON.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24,20039:31 AM
To: 'bergw@meridiancity.org'; 'Sharon Smith'; 'Tara Green'
Cc: 'silvaj@meridiancity.org'; Bill Nichols
Subject: FW: Fire Code Ordinance
Could one of you give Joe a possible status as to when this matter might be placed upon a Pre-Council
agenda, and then placement on the Regular Agenda when it has been approved through Pre-Council?
Thanks, Marlene
Marlene St George
Legal Assistant
White Peterson
5700 East Franklin RoUli, Suite 200
Nampa, Idaho 83687-8402
208-466-9272 Ext. 111
ms@whitepeterson.com
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notify us immediately by replying to this message or telephoning us, and do not review, disclose, copy,
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-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Silva [mailto:silvaj@meridiancity.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:51 AM
To: 'Marlene St.George'
Subject: RE: Fire Code Ordinance
Marlene
When will this go to CoucH?
Joe
-----Origina I Message-----
From: Marlene St.George [mailto:ms@whitepeterson.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19,2003 10:21 AM
To: 'bergw@meridiancity.org'; 'Tara Green'; 'Jessica Johnson'
Cc: 'Joe Silva'; Bill Nichols
Subject: Fire Code Ordinance
Will: Please find attached the proposed Fire Code Ordinance. You will need to speak with Mayor Corrie
to have this placed on a Pre-Council agenda, with placement on the Regular agenda when necessary.
Council may want to have a public hearing before adopting it. Also, Mr. Silva may have some fees to
propose that would require a hearing. Thanks, Marlene.
6/26/2003
CITY OF MERIDIAN
ORDINANCE NO. 03-
BY:
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF :MERIDIAN, IDAHO, ADOPTING THE
2000 EDITION OF THE INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE, REGULATING AND
GOVERNING THE SAFEGUARDING OF LIFE AND PROPERTY FROM FIRE
AND EXPLOSION HAZARDS ARISING FROM THE STORAGE, HANDLING
AND USE OF HAZARDOUS SUBSTANCES, MATERIALS AND DEVICES,
FROM CONDITIONS HAZARDOUS TO LIFE OR PROPERTY IN THE
OCCUPANCY OF BUILDINGS AND PREMISES IN THE CITY OF :MERIDIAN,
IDAHO; PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE OF PERMITS FOR HAZARDOUS
USES OR OPERATIONS; REPEALING ORDINANCE NO. 807 OF THE CITY
OF :MERIDIAN, IDAHO, AND ALL OTHER ORDINANCES AND PARTS OF
THE ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH; AND PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT ORDAINED BY THE MAYOR AND CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF :MERIDIAN, ADA COUNTY, IDAHO:
SECTION 1: That Chapter 4 of Title 10 of the Meridian City Code be, and the same is,
hereby repealed.
SECTION 2: That Chapter 4 of Title 10 of the Meridian City Code be, and the same is,
hereby reenacted to read as follows:
10-4-1: INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE ADOPTED:
There is hereby adopted by the Mayor and the City Council of the City of Meridian,
County of Ada, State ofIdaho, for the purpose of regulating and governing the
safeguarding of life and property from fire and explosion hazards arising from the
storage, handling and use of hazardous substances, materials and devices, and from
conditions hazardous to life or property in the occupancy of buildings and premises in the
City of Meridian, Idaho and providing for the issuance of permits for hazardous uses or
operations; and each and all of the regulations, provisions, conditions and terms of such
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International Fire Code, 2000 edition, published by the International Code Council, Inc.,
one (1) copy of which "has been and is now on file in the office ofthe Meridian City Clerk
and the same are hereby adopted and incorporated as fully as if set out at length herein.
From the date in which this Chapter shall take effect, the provisions thereof shall be
controlling within the limits of the City of Meridian, County of Ada, State ofIdaho.
10-4~2: AMENDMENTS TO THE 2000 INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE:
102.1.1 New construction, additions and alterations: Approval as a result of plan
reviews shall not be construed to be an approval of a violation ofthe provisions of this
code or of other ordinances of the jurisdiction. Plan reviews presuming to give authority
to violate or cancel provisions of this code or of other ordinances of the jurisdiction shall
not be valid.
103.1 General. The department of fire prevention is established within the jurisdiction
under the direction of the Fire Chief The function of the department shall be the
implementation, administration and enforcement of the provisions of this code.
103.2 Appointment. The Code Official shall be the Fire Chief of the jurisdiction. In the
absence of the Fire Chief, the Deputy Chief-Fire Prevention shall be designated the Code
Official.
104.1 General. The code official is hereby authorized to enforce the provisions of this
code and shall have the authority to render interpretations of this code, and to adopt
policies, procedures, rules and regulations in order to clarifY the application of its
provisions. Such interpretations, policies, procedures, rules and regulations shall be in
compliance with the intent and purpose of this code and shall not have the effect of
waiving requirements specifically provided for in this code.
The fire chief is authorized to administer and enforce this code. Under the chiefs
direction, the fire department is authorized to enforce all ordinances of the jurisdiction
pertaining to:
a. the prevention of fires;
b. the storage, use and handling of hazardous materials;
c. the installation and maintenance of automatic, manual and other private
fire alarm systems and fire-extinguishing equipment;
d. the maintenance and regulation of fire escapes;
e. the maintenance of fire protection and the elimination of fire hazards' on
land and in buildings, and other property, including those under
construction;
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g. the maintenance of means of egress, and
h. the investigation of the cause, origin and circumstances of fire and
unauthorized releases of hazardous materials, for authority related to
control and investigation of emergency scenes, see Section 104.11.
104.1.2 Fire prevention bureau personnel and police. The chief and members of the
fire prevention bureau shall have the powers of a police officer in performing their duties
under this code. When requested to do so by the chief, the chief of police is authorized to
assign such available police officers as necessary to assist the fire department in
enforcing the provisions of this code.
104.6.3 The fire department shall keep a record of fires occurring within its jurisdiction
and offacts concerning the same, including statistics as to the extent of such fires and the
damage caused thereby, together with other information as required by the code officiaL
The fire department shall retain for not less than five (5) years a record of each
investigation made showing the cause, the findings and disposition of each
investigation."
105.1.1Permits required. A permit, if required by the local jurisdiction, shall be
obtained from the designated official prior to engaging in activities requiring a permit
within the local jurisdiction. Fees: Whenever a permit, inspection, or plan review is
required or allowed pursuant to the International Fire Code, or other applicable provision
of the Meridian City Code, the City may, by Resolution duly adopted by the City
Council, charge and collect a fee for such permit, inspection, or plan review.
109.3 Violation penalties. Persons who shall violate a provision of this code or shall
fail to comply with any of the requirements thereof or who shall erect, install, alter, repair
or do work in violation of the approved construction documents or directive of the code
official, or of a permit or certificate used under provisions of this code, shall be guilty of
a misdemeanor. Each day that a violation continues after due notice has been served
shall be deemed a separate offense.
110.1.1.2 Overcrowding. Overcrowding and admittance of persons beyond the
approved capacity of a place of assembly is prohibited. The chief, upon finding
overcrowding conditions, or obstructions in aisles, passageways or other means of egress,
or upon finding a condition which constitutes a serious menace to life, is authorized to
close the facility and cause the assembly, performance, presentation, spectacle or
entertainment to be stopped until such conditions are corrected or obstructions are
removed.
111.4 Failure to comply. Any person who shall continue any work after having been
served with a stop work order, except such work as that person is directed to perform to
remove a violation or unsafe condition, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.
Section 901.6.1.1 Periodic Inspection and Testing. The chief is authorized to require
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periodic inspection and testing of fire sprinkler systems, fire hydrant systems, standpipe
systems, fire alarm systems, portable fire extinguishers, smoke and heat ventilators,
smoke removal systems and other fire protection or fire extinguishing systems or
appliances.
a. Automatic fire extinguishing systems shall be inspected and tested at least
annually, see the current edition of National Fire Protection Association
Standard 25.
b. Fire alarm systems shall be inspected and tested at least annually, see the
current edition of National Fire Protection Association Standard 72.
c. Standpipe systems shall be inspected and tested at least every five (5)
years, see the current edition of National Fire Protection Association
Standard 25.
901.4 Installation. Fire protection systems shall be maintained in accordance with the
original installation standards for that system. Required fire protection systems shall be
extended, altered, or augmented as necessary to maintain and continue protection
whenever the building is altered, remodeled or added to. Alterations to fire protection
systems shall be done in accordance with applicable standards. Fire protection systems
shall comply with the International Fire Code and the current appropriate edition of the
National Fire Protection Association Standards.
901.6.2 Inspection and Test Results. All inspection and test reports shall be sent to the
Chief by the contractor (person) doing the maintenance or inspection. Reports of
inspections and tests shall be maintained on the premises and made available to the Chief
when requested.
903.2.7.1 Group R, Division 1 Occupancies. An automatic sprinkler system shall be
installed throughout apartment houses three or more floors in height or containing 6 or
more dwelling units, in congregate residence three or more floors in height and having an
occupancy load of20 or more in hotels, three or more floors in height or containing 13 or
more guest rooms. Residential or quick-response standard sprinklers shall be used in
dwelling units and guest room portions of the building. For purposes of this requirement,
and determining the number of floors, the word "floors" include those floors that are
below grade plane, at grade plane and above grade plane.
903.4. A. Multiple Tenants in a Single Building. An approved audible sprinkler flow
alarm to alert the occupants of each tenant space shall be provided in the interior ofthe
building at a normally attended location within each tenant space."
903.4.2 Alarms. Approved audible devices and visual alarms with a minimum candela
rating of 110 shall be connected to every automatic sprinkler system. Such sprinkler
water-flow alarm devices shall be activated by water flow equivalent to the flow of a
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single sprinkler of the smallest orifice size installed in the system. Alarm devices shall be
provided on the exterior ofthe building in an approved location. Where a fire alarm
system is installed, actuation of the automatic sprinkler system shall actuate the building
fire alarm system.
907.1.1 Construction documents. Construction documents for fire alarm systems shall
be submitted for review and approval prior to system installation. Construction
documents shall include, but not be limited to, all of the following:
1. A floor plan.
2. Locations of alarm-initiating and notification appliances.
3. Alarm control and trouble signaling equipment.
4. Annunciation.
5. Power connection.
6. Battery calculations.
7. Conductor type and sizes.
8. Voltage drop calculations.
9. Manufacturers, model numbers and listing information for equipment,
devices and materials.
10. Details of ceiling height and construction.
11. The interface of fire safety control functions.
12. Fire Alarm Drawings shall be stand alone and drawn to 118" scale.
907.1.2.1 Design Standards. Fire Alarm systems shall be installed and maintained in
accordance with the International Fire Code and the current edition of National Fire
Protection Association Standards 72.
907.1.3.1. Notification Devices. When fire alarm systems not required by the
International Fire Code are installed, the notification devices shall meet the minimum
design and installation requirements for systems, which are required by this code. Intent:
(Non-required fire alarm systems shall provide the same level of occupant notification
that required systems provide).
907.1.3.2. Partial Or Limited Detection Systems Are Allowed. If notification devices
are provided, they must meet 907.1.3 (1.) above.
SECTION 3: CHAPTER 33 EXPLOSIVES AND FIREWORKS
That sections 3301.1.3, 3301.2.2, 3301.2.3, 3301.2.4.2, and 3308.1 through 3308.3 are
hereby deleted from the International Fire Code.
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SECTION 3404 STORAGE
3404.2.13.1.3 Underground Tanks Out Of Service For One Year. Underground
tanks that have been out of service for a period of 1 year shall be removed from the
ground in accordance with Section 3404.2.14 or abandoned in place in accordance with
Section 3404.2.13.1.4.
Upon approval of the Chief underground tanks that comply with the performance
standards for new or upgraded underground tanks set forth in Title 40 Section 280.20, or
280.21, of the Code of Federal Regulations may remain out of service indefinitely so long
as they remain in compliance with the operation, maintenance and release detection
requirements of the federal rule.
SECTION 3704 IDGHL Y TOXIC AND TOXIC COMPRESSED GASES
3704.2.2.7 Treatment systems. The exhaust ventilation from gas cabinets,
exhausted enclosures and gas rooms, and local exhaust systems required in Sections
3704.2.2.4 and 3704.2.2.5 shall be directed to a treatment system. The treatment system
shall be utilized to handle the accidental release of gas and to process exhaust ventilation.
The treatment system shall be designed in accordance with Sections 3704.2.2.7.1 through
3704.2.2.7.5 and Section 510 of the International Mechanical Code.
Upon approval of the Chief, emergency response kits recommended by the Chlorine
Institute may be used for chlorine gas product leaks in lieu of the treatment system
requirements of this section, as long as there are adequate responders immediately
available, who are trained in their use and acceptable to the Chief
CHAPTER 45
Chapter 45 "Referenced Standards" - Shall be construed as the most current edition of
the National Fire Protection Association Standard available.
SECTION 4: REFERENCES TO APPENDIX. When the Meridian City Code
references an appendix to the International Fire Code 2000, the provisions of the
appendix shall apply to all APPENDICES A - G, APPENDIX A - BOARD OF
APPEALS, APPENDIX B - FIRE-FLOW REQUIREMENTS FOR BUILDINGS,
APPENDIX C - FIRE HYDRANT LOCATIONS AND DISTRIBUTION, APPENDIX
D -FIRE APPARATUS ACCESS ROADS, APPENDIX E - HAZARD CATEGORIES,
APPENDIX F - HAZARD RANKlNGS, and APPENDIX G - CRYOGENIC FLUIDS -
WEIGHT AND VOLUME EQUIV ALENTS, and all appendices are adopted, except as
for the amendments to APPENDIX A and APPENDIX D as amended herein below:
APPENDIX A SECTION AI01.3.2 VACANCIES
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AI01.3.2 Vacancies. Vacancies shall be filled for an unexpired term in the manner in
which original appointments are required to be made. Members appointed to fill a
vacancy in an unexpired term shall be eligible for reappointment to two full terms. Ifthe
unexpired term cannot be filled by nomination by the code official or the chief
administrative officer of the jurisdiction, then the members shall be able to pursue a
member outside of the terms as outlined in Section AlO1.2, to appoint an unfilled
member position.
APPENDIX D:
SECTION DI03 MINIMUM SPECIFICATIONS
DI03.1 Access road width with a hydrant. Delete options 70' DIAMETER CUL-DE-
SAC and 60' HAMMERHEAD.
SECTION DI07 ONE- OR TWO-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS
DI07.1 One- or two-family dwelling residential developments. Developments of one-
or two-family dwellings where the number of dwelling units exceeds 50 shall be provided
with separate and approved fire apparatus access roads, and shall meet the requirements
of Section D104.3.
DI07.1 EXCEPTIONS:
2. The number of dwelling units on a single fire apparatus access road shall not be
increased unless fire apparatus access roads will connect with future development, which
is slated to occur within the next 6 months, or as determined by the code official.
10-4-5: S.EVERABILITY:
The provisions of this chapter shall be deemed severable and a finding by a court of law
that a provision of this chapter is unlawful shall have no effect on the remaining
provIsions.
SECTION 5: All ordinances, resolutions, orders or parts thereof in conflict herewith are
hereby repealed, rescinded and annulled.
SECTION 6: VALIDITY:
The Meridian City Council hereby declares that any section, paragraph, sentence or word
of this ordinance as adopted and amended herein be declared for any reason to be invalid
it is the intent of the Meridian City Council that it would have passed all other portions of
this ordinance independent of the elimination here from of any portion as may be
declared invalid.
SECTION 7: DATE OF EFFECT:
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This ordinance shall be in full force and effect after its passage, approval and publication
on the day of ,2003.
PASSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF l\1ERIDIAN, IDAHO, this
day of , 2003.
APPROVED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF l\1ERIDIAN, IDAHO, this
day of , 2003.
Mayor Robert D. Corrie
Attest:
City Clerk
An Ordinance ofthe City of Meridian By: William G. Berg, Jr., City Clerk
First Reading:
Adopted after first reading by suspension ofthe Rule as allowed pursuant to Idaho Code
50-902: YES NO
Second Reading:
Third Reading:
STATE OF IDAHO,)
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County of Ada. )
On this day of ,2003, before me, the
undersigned, a Notary Public in and for said State, personally appeared ROBERT D.
CORRIE and WILLIAM G. BERG, JR., known to me to be the Mayor and City Clerk of
the CITY of Meridian, Idaho, and who executed the within instrument, and
acknowledged to me that the City of Meridian executed the same.
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IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my
official seal the day and year first above written.
(SEAL)
NOTARY PUBLIC FOR IDAHO
RESIDING AT:
MY COMMISSION EXPIRES:
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CITY OF MERIDIAN
PRE-COUNCIL MEETING
AGENDA
Tuesday, July 1, 2003 at 6:30 p.m.
City Council Chambers
1. Roll-call Attendance:
Tammy de Weerd Bill Nary
Cherie McCandless Keith Bird
Mayor Robert Corrie
2. Adoption of the Agenda:
3. Discussion of 2000 Edition of the International Fire Code with Joe
Silva:
(20 minutes*)
* Approximate allowable time set for agenda item may change depending on
discussion. Please use the designated time as a guideline only.
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All materials presented at public meetings shall become property of the City of Meridian.
Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and/or hearings
please contact the City Clerk's Office at 888-4433 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting.
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NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of Meridian
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Tuesday, July 1, 2003 at 6:30 P.M. The Meridian City Council will be
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MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of Meridian
will hold a Pre-Council Meeting at City Hall, 33 East Idaho, Meridian, Idaho, on
TuesdaYJ July 1, 2003 at 6:30 P.M. The Meridian City Council will be
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MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of Meridian
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** TX ,MAllON REPORT ** RS OF JUL 1212 '03 PAGE. 01
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01 07/1212 08'49 381121160 EC--S 00'26" eel 240 OK
02 1217/02 00:50 PUBLIC WORKS EC-S 1210'20" 01211 240 OK
03 07/02 08:51 1208466441215 EC--S 00'20" 001 240 OK
04 07/02 08:52 8841159 EC--S 00'19" 01211 240 OK
El5 1217/1212 08:53 212188840744 EC--S 121121'20" 12101 240 OK
\Yo 07/02 00'54 2088467366 EC--S l2I0'20" eel 24121 OK
07 07/e2 08'55 8S855el EC--5 121121'2121" eel 24e OK
08 07/G2 00' 55 LIBRARY EC--5 1210'21" El01 2413 OK
139 07/02 08:56 92083776449 EC-S 0121'19" 0e1 24e OK
10 e7/132 138:57 208 388 6924 EC--S 13121'21" 0131 24121 OK
11 07/02 08: 58 2088886654 EC-5 ee'20" 12101 240 OK
12 07/02 08:59 695121390 EC-5 00'19" 001 24121 OK
13 07/02 09:00 ADA CTY DEVELMT (:>3--5 1210'39" 12101 2413 OK
14 07/02 09'01 208-888-5052 EC--5 0121'20" 001 240 OK
15 07/02 09:02 CHERRY LRNE EC--S 00'22" El01 240 OK
16 07/02 09:e3 POST OFFICE EC--S 0121' 27" 0el 2413 OK
17 07/132 139: l!\4 IDAHO ATHLETIC C EC--S 0121'20" eel 2413 OK
18 07/02 09:05 lD PRESS TRIBUNE EC--S 00'213" 001 2413 OK
19 07/02 09'06 208 888 6700 EC--S 00'20" 001 2410 OK
22 07/0209:102083876393 EC--S 0121'19" 12101 240 OK
PRE.COUNCIL MEETING
REVISED A.GENDA
Revised
16-30-03l
CITY OF MERIDIAN
Tuesday, JUly1, 2003 at5:30 p.m.
City Council Chambers
1. Roll-call Attendance:
~_ Tammy de Weerd ~ Bill Nary
~ Cherie X-candless -X- Keith Bird
Mayor Robert Corrie
2. Adoption of the Agenda:
3. Executive Session as per Idaho Code 67.2345 (1)(b):
(30 minutes") Iw deu7/thJ
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27 061'30 15:01 3810160 EC--S 00'27" 001 205 OK
28 051'30 15:02 12084664405 EC--S 00'21" 001 206 OK
29 061'30 15:03 8841159 EC--S 00'21" 001 206 OK
30 061'30 15:04 2088840744 EC--S 00'20" 001 206 OK
31 061'30 15:05 2088467366 EC--S 00'21" 001 206 OK
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CITY OF MERIDIAN eVlse
PRE-COUNCIL MEETING 16-30-03 I
REVISED AGENDA
Tuesday, July 1, 2003 at 5:30 p.m.
City Council Chambers
1. Roll-call Attendance:
_ TammydeWeerd _Bill Nary
Cherie McCandless Keith Bird
_ Mayor Robert Corrie
2. Adoption of the Agenda:
3. Executive Session as per Idaho Code 67-2345 (1)(b):
(30 minutes"')
4. Discussion of 2000 Edition of the International Fire Code with Joe
Silva:
(20 minutes"')
*Approximate allowable time set for agenda item may change depending on
discussion. Please use the designated time as a guideline only.
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** COMMUNICATIONS REPORT ** AS OF JUN 30 '03 15:06 PAGE.01
CITY OF MERIDIAN
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DATE TIME TO/FROM MODE MIN/SEC PGS CMDt:t STATUS
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02 06/30 11:19 208-888-5052 EC--R 00'29" 001 198 Df<
03 06/30 12:58 2088889947 EC--R 00'44" 002 199 OK
04 06/30 13:10 2083647382 EC--S 00'28" 001 200 OK
05 06/30 13:13 2088886854 EC--S 00'27" 001 202 OK
06 06/30 13:46 3810160 EC--S 01'15" 002 204 OK
07 06/30 13:48 12084664405 EC--S 00' 45" 002 204 OK
08 06/30 13:49 8841159 EC--S 00'46" 002 204 OK
09 06/30 13:51 2088840744 EC--S 00'45" 002 204 OK
10 06/30 13:52 2088467366 EC--S 00'45" 002 204 OK
11 06/30 13:53 8985501 EC--S 00'45" 002 204 OK
12 06/30 13:54 LIBRARY EC--S 00'59" 002 204 OK
13 06/30 13:56 92083776449 EC--S 00'44" 002 204 OK
14 06/30 13:57 208 388 6924 EC--S 00'57" 002 204 OK
15 06/30 13:59 2088886854 EC--S 00'44" 002 204 OK
16 06/30 14:00 8950390 EC--S 00' 45" 002 204 OK
17 06/30 14:01 Laurel EC--S 00'46" 002 204 OK
18 06/30 14:03 208 387 6393 EC--S 00'46" 002 204 OK
19 06/30 14:04 ADA CTY DEVELMT G3--S 01'16" 002 204 OK
20 06/30 14:06 208-888-5052 EC--S 00'45" 002 204 OK
21 06/30 14:07 CHERRY LRNE EC--S 00'58" 002 204 OK
22 06/30 14:09 POST OFFICE EC--S 01' 15" 002 204 OK
23 06/30 14:10 IDRHO ATHLETIC C EC--S 00'45" 002 204 OK
24 06/30 14:12 ID PRESS TRIBUNE EC--S 00'45" 002 204 OK
25 06/30 14:13 208 888 6700 EC--S 00'44" 002 204 OK
26 06/30 14:17 PUBLIC WORKS EC--S 00'45" 002 204 OK
27 06/30 15:01 3810160 EC--S 00'27" 001 206 OK
28 06/30 15:02 12084664405 EC--S 00'21" 001 206 OK
29 06/30 15:03 8841159 EC--S 00'21" 001 206 OK
30 06/30 15:04 2088840744 EC--S 00'20" 001 206 OK
31 06/30 15:05 2088467366 EC--S 00'21" 001 206 OK
32 06/30 15:06 8985501 EC--S 00'20" 001 206 OK
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AS OF JUN 30 '03 1.. PAGE. 01
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DATE TIME TO/FROM MODE MIWSEC PGS CMDl:1 STATUS
01 06/30 1~'06 LIBRARY EC--S 013'21" 001 206 OK
132 136/313 15:07 921383776449 EC--S 1210'20" 001 206 OK
03 136/30 15:08 208 388 6924 EC--S 00'21" 1301 2136 OK
134 136/30 15:09 21388886854 EC--S 00'21" 1301 2136 OK
135 136/313 15:10 12084674538 EC--S 130'213" 001 2136 OK
06 136/313 15:1088503913 EC--5 00'20" 0131 2136 OK
07 136/313 15:12 Laurel EC--S 00' 21" 001 206 OK
08 06/313 15:12 2138 387 6393 EC--S 1313'213" 001 206 OK
139 06/30 15'13 ADA CTY DEVELMT GJ--S 013'39" 0131 2136 OK
10 06/30 15:14 2138-888-51352 EC--S 013'213" 1301 206 OK
11 136/30 15'15 CHERRY LANE EC--S 00'21" 001 2136 OK
12 06/3015'16 POST OFF[CE EC--S 130'27" I'll'll 2B6 OK
13 06/313 15'17 IDAHO ATHLETIC C EC--S 1210' 19" 001 206 OK
14 06/30 15'18 887 0816 G3--S 00'38" 001 206 OK
15 06/313 15:20 [0 PRESS TRIBUNE EC--S 00'20" 001 206 OK
16 06/30 15:20 208 888 6700 EC--S 013'20" 001 206 OK
20 06/30 15:24 PUBLIC WORKS EC--S 01:l'20" 001 206 OK
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V lto..8~ tp~t ~y 1\J4UC. nab (lz;" Th~! R · d
CITY OF MERIDIAN eVJSe
I 6-30-03 I
PRE-COUNCIL MEETING
REVISED AGENDA
Tuesday, JUly 1, 2003 at 5:30 p.m.
City Council Chambers
1. Roll-call Attendance:
_ Tammy de Weerd _ Bill Nary
Cherie McCandless Keith Bird
_ Mayor Robert Corrie
2. Adoption of the Agenda:
3. Executive Session as per Idaho Code 67-2345 (1)(b):
(30 minutes.)
4. Discussion of 2000 Edition of the International Fire Code with Joe
Silva:
{20 minutes.}
*Approximate allowable time set for agenda item may change depending on
discussion. Please use the designated time as a guideline only.
M<ri<lj.lI C;[t Coonoil Pro-Co"""il ^~0:n<4- Jolt I. 2003 r.~c I un
A.U 1l\:l{eri"l$. p~ml~ ill publi.c. rnlX:t:1ng; ~IJ ho::omc prop::1lY cfthl;' Cl1y ofMc'lidi!n.
Any.nno:: d~irine: .nccommQdl\ti~n fordi.s.abili1ie:; rebled.~ do',:umm~ ilcd/or he;lnn,tS
'IllelUC'-c-on~ct the CiTy C1erk.~s OClir.:e at S8S-44jJ::It ra.'il411 hnu~ priortn t~r;JlubJic m~nc:.
** COMMUNICATIONS REPORT ** AS OF JUN 30 '03 15:36 PAGE. 01
CITY OF MERIDIAN
TOTAL PAGES TOTAL TI ME
SEND 0032 SEND 00012'43"
RECEIVE 0000 RECEIVE 00000' 00"
DATE TIME TO/FROM MODE MIN/SEC PGS CMDt:I STATUS
01 06/30 15:06 LIBRARY EC--S 00'21" 001 206 OK
02 06/30 15:07 92083776449 EC--S 00'20" 001 206 OK
03 06/30 15:08 208 388 6924 EC--S 00'21" 001 206 OK
04 06/30 15:09 2088886854 EC--S 00'21" 001 206 OK
05 06/30 15:10 12084674538 EC--S 00'20" 001 206 OK
06 06/30 15:10 8950390 EC--S 00'20" 001 206 OK
07 06/30 15:12 Laurel EC--S 00'21" 001 206 OK
08 06/30 15:12 208 387 6393 EC--S 00'20" 001 206 OK
09 06/30 15:13 ADA CTY DEVELMT G3--S 00' 39" 001 206 OK
10 06/30 15:14 208-888-5052 EC--S 00'20" 001 206 OK
11 06/30 15:15 CHERRY LANE EC--S 00'21" 001 206 OK
12 06/30 15:16 POST OFFICE EC--S 00'27" 001 206 OK
13 06/30 15:17 IDAHO ATHLETIC C EC--S 00' 19" 001 206 OK
14 06/30 15:18 887 0816 G3--S 00'38" 001 206 01<
15 06/30 15:20 ID PRESS TRIBUNE EC--S 00'20" 001 206 OK
16 06/30 15:20 208 888 6700 EC--S 00'20" 001 206 OK
17 06/30 15:22 3810160 EC--S 00'33" 001 207 OK
18 06/30 15:23 PUBLIC WORKS EC--S 00'24" 001 207 OK
19 06/30 15:23 12084664405 EC--S 00'24" 001 207 OK
20 06/30 15:24 PUBLIC WORKS EC--S 00'20" 001 206 OK
21 06/30 15:25 8841159 EC--S 00'24" 001 207 OK
22 06/30 15:26 2088840744 EC--S 00'23" 001 207 OK
23 06/30 15:27 2088467366 EC--S 00'24" 001 207 OK
24 06/30 15:28 8985501 EC--S 00'24" 001 207 OK
25 06/30 15:29 LIBRARY EC--S 00'29" 001 207 OK
26 06/30 15:30 92083776449 EC--S 00'24" 001 207 OK
27 06/30 15:31 208 388 6924 EC--S 00'27" 001 207 OK
28 06/30 15:32 2088886854 EC--S 00'23" 001 207 OK
29 06/30 15:33 12084674538 EC--S 00'24" 001 207 OK
30 06/30 15:33 8950390 EC--S 00'23" 001 207 OK
31 06/30 15:34 Laurel EC--S 00'25" 001 207 OK
32 06/30 15:35 208 387 6393 EC--S 00'24" 001 207 OK
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06/3121 15=23 1212184664405
1216/3121 15:25 8841159
06/30 15:26 2008940744
1216/30 15:27 2088467366
1215/30 15:28 8985501
1216/3121 15:29 LIBRARY
1216/30 15:30 92083776449
05/30 15:31 208 388 6924
06/3121 15:32 2088886854
06/30 15:33 1212184674538
1216/3121 15:33 89512139121
1215/30 15:34 Laurel
1215/3121 15:35 208 387 6393
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CITY OF MERIDIAN
,6 PAGE.01
MODE
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00'33" 001
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Rober, D. Corne
CMD"
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LEGAl. DEPARTMENT
(206) 288.2499 .F,. 288-2501
PARKS &. JU:CREATtON
aDS 888.3579 . Fa.>: 898-SS0 I
FUBUC WORKS
(208l898.550o 'Fax 881.12~1
CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
Tammy deWeerd
William L. M. NN)'
Ch~ie McCondless
Keith Bird
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L/YLeridiar/ '.J' '\
~ID^HO i
. ,/.!'
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BUILDING DEPARTMENT
(208) 881.2211 '1'0:.; 861-1291
PLANNINC AND ZONJNG
(208) llUoS53) . F.... 888.6&S4
RE-NOTICE OF PRE-COUNCIL MEETING
(Amended 6-30-03)
MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of Meridian
will hold a Pre-Council Meeting at City HaJJ, 33 East Idaho Avenue, Meridian,
Idaho, on Tuesday, July 1, 2003 at 5:30 P.M. The Meridian City Council will be
discussing the following agenda items:
- Executive Session as per (daho state Code 67-2345(1)(b)
- Discussion of 2000 Edition of the International Fire Code
The public is welcome to attend the pre-council meeting but the executive
session is closed to the public.
DATED this 30th day of June, 2003.
33 EAST IDAHO. MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642
(208) 888-4433 . Fax (208) 887-4813 . City Clctk Officc Fax (208) 888-42l8 . HUm:ln Rescorces Fax (208) 884.8'123
,
** TX CONFIRI'"" JON REPORT **
01
02
03
04
05
06
07
08
DATE TIME TO/FROM
06/38 15:36 ADA CTY DEUELMT
06/38 15:38 CHERRY LANE
06/30 15:39 POST OFFICE
06/38 15:40 IDAHO ATHLETIC C
06/30 15:41 BB7 0B16
06/30 15:42 ID PRESS TRIBUNE
06/30 15:43 20B BBB 6700
06/30 15:54 SANITARY SERUICE
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AS OF JUN 30 '03_",:54 PAGE.01
CITY OF MERIDIAN
MODE
G3--S
EC--S
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MIN/SEC PGS
00'40" 001
00'27" 001
00'33" 001
88'24" 001
88'48" 001
00'23" 001
00'24" 001
00' 00" 000
CMDI'l
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207
207
207
207
207
207
207
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OK
OK
OK
OK
OK
OK
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"1'.1 . L1;(jAr..DEPARTMENT
p',.,~ (208) 288.2499 .l"n 288-2501
oYG CITY 01' Eti1 ~'" PARKS &: RECREATION
~ J. ",. ", '~' ',,<, (20B 888.3579. fax 898-S501
erl oil an~" 1, PU8ue WORKS
~~JD^HO ~ (208)S98.5S00.Fo~887.1297
:>0 ..If BUIlDING DEPARTMENT
, (208) 887-2211 . F:l.d87..1297
, 'r" ""~ "'" PLANNlNO AND ZONJNG
, 1m (208) 6S4-5S3~ . l"1IX 888-6854
MAYOR
Roben D. Corrie
Cfn COUNCIL MEMBERS
Tarnrny deWcerd
Willi~m L. M, NlU')'
Cherie McC;mdless
Keith Bird
RE~NOTrCE OF PRE-COUNCIL MEETING
(Amended 6-30-03)
MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of Meridian
will hold a Pre-Council Meeting at City HaU, 33 East Idaho Avenue, Meridian,
Idaho, on Tuesday, July 1, 2003 at 5:30 P.M. The Meridian City Council will be
discussing the following agenda items:
- Executive Session as per Idaho state Code 67-2345(1)(b)
- Discussion of 2000 Edition of the International Fire Code
The public is welcome to attend the pre-council meeting but the eXecutive
session is closed to the public.
DATED this 30th day of June, 2003.
33 EAST IDAHO. MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642
(208) 888-4433 . Fall (208) 887-4813 . City Clerk Officc Fax (208) 888-4218 . Hum:m Resources Fax (208) 88<\.8723
** TX CONFIRMAlluN REPORT **
(
AS OF rUN 11 '0~ 16:54 PAGE. 01
CITY OF MERIDIAN
DATE TIME TO/FROM
01 06/11 16:54 CHAMBER-COMMERCE
MODE MIN/SEC PGS CMD" STATUS
----5 00' 00" 000 237 BUSY
-----------------------------------------------------------------~------~-------------------
MAYOR
Robert O. Corrie
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LEGAL DEPARTMENT
(lOB) 288-24\)1) . F.x 288-2501
PARKS &. RECREA'I'lON
(208 888.3519 . p~x 898-5501
PUSUCWORKS
(208) M98-SS00 -Pax 8R1-ll91
aUILDING DEPARTMENT
{l(8) 887-2211 - Pax 887-1297
PLANNING AND ZONlNG
(208) 884-5533 . Fax 888-G854
CITY COUNCILMEMBI3RS
Tammy deWeerd
Willi:l.m L. M. Nary
Cherie McCandless
Keith Bird
NOTICE OF CANCELA TION OF REGULAR MEETING
OF THE
MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
Due to the lack of a quorum,
the regular scheduled City Council meeting for
Tuesday, June 17, 2003
has been CANCELLED.
If you have any questions, please contact the City
Clerk's Office at 888-4433. Thank you.
DA TED this 11th day of January~ 2003_
33 EAST IDAHO. MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642
(20S) 888-4433. F~x (208) 887-4813 . City Clerk Office Pax (208) 888-42]8 . Human RcsourC1!s F~x (208) 884-8723
".
** TX cO; !AT JON REPORT ** AS OF JUN 11 '03 d PFlGE.01
CJTV OF MERIDIAN
DFlTE TIME TO/FROM MODE MIN/SEC PGS CMD!:! STATUS
13 06/11 16:25 PUBLIC WORKS EC--S 00'22" 1301 237 OK
14 06/11 16:26 2084664405 EC--S 130'22" 1301 237 OK
15 06/11 16:27 8841159 EC--5 130'22" 13131 237 OK
16 06/11 16:28 213888413744 EC--5 1313'22" 13131 237 OK
17 06/11 16:29 2088467366 EC--S 130'23" 1301 237 OK
18 06/11 16:313 8985501 EC--S 00'22" 0131 237 OK
19 06/11 16:31 LIBRARY EC--S 00'25" 001 237 OK
20 06/11 16' 32 92083776449 EC--S 00'21" 001 237 OK
21 06/11 16' 32 208 388 6924 EC--S 00'25" 0131 237 OK
22 06/11 16'33 2088886854 EC--S 00'22" 0Bl 237 OK
23 06/11 16'34 8950390 EC-S 013'22" 001 237 OK
24 06/11 16:36 208 387 6393 EC--S 00'22" 0131 237 OK
25 06/11 16:36 ADA CTV DEUELMT G3--S 00'39" 0131 237 OK
26 06/11 16:38 208-888-5052 EC--S 00'23" 0131 237 OK
27 06/11 16: 39 CHERRY LANE EC--S 00'26" 1301 237 OK
28 06/11 16:40 POST OFFICE EC--S 00'31" 001 237 OK
29 06/11 16:41 IDAHO ATHLETIC C EC-S 013'22" 001 237 OK
3I'l 06/11 16'42 ID PRESS TRIBUNE EC--S 00'22" 01il1 237 OK
31 06/11 16'43 208 888 6700 EC--S 1<10'21" 001 237 OK
32 06/11 16:47 3810160 EC-S 00'32" 0131 237 OK
MAYOR
Ro1m1 D. Corrie
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(20i) 288-Z4!1!1. Fox 288-2501
P,\Rl(.S /I< RECREATION
(ZOS 888-3519 . Fo> S98-SSDl
PUllUC WORKS
(2D8) K9lj.SSOO 'F"" SK7-1297
llUIWINO DEPARTMENT
(208) 8~.2Z11 . Fax 887-1297
PLANNING AND ZONING
(lOSl SIl4-SS33 - f... 88K-GES4
Cl'fY COUNCiL. MI!MB~RS
T.nuny deW.era
Willi.m I.. M. N.ry
C""ne McC..al..,
K<ilh Bird
NOTICE OF CANCELA T/ON OF REGULAR MEETING
OF THE
MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
Due to the lack of a quorum,
the regular scheduled City Council meeting for
Tuesday, June 17, 2003
has been CANCELLED.
If you have any questions, please contact the City
Clerk's Office at 888-4433. Thank you.
DA TED this 11th day of January, 2003.
33 EAST IDAHO. MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642
(Z08) 888-4433 . Fax (208) ~87.48 13 . Cily Clor" Office fox (208) 868.4218 . Humo.n Rc~our<<' F.x (208) 884-8723
** COMMUNICATIONS REPORT ** AS OF JUN 11 '03 16:47 PAGE.Ol
CITY OF MERIDIAN
TOTAL PRGES TOTRL TIME
SEND 0028 SEND 00010'52"
RECEIIJE 0010 RECEIIJE 00003'28"
DATE TIME TO/FROM MODE MIN/SEC PGS CMDI:t STATUS
01 06/11 11:23 Laurel EC--R 00'22" 001 220 OK
02 06/11 11:35 NET SRTISFAXTION EC--R 00'32" 001 221 OK
03 06/11 11:40 3810160 EC--S 00'23" 001 222 OK
04 06/11 11:42 IDAHO ATHLETIC C EC--S 00' 19" 001 222 OK
05 06/11 11:42 LIBRARY EC--S 00'17" 001 223 OK
06 06/11 11:44 POST OFFICE EC--S 00'22" 001 225 OK
07 06/11 11:53 CHRMBER-COMMERCE ----S 00'00" 000 224 BUSY
08 06/11 13:23 208-888-5052 EC--R 00'28" 001 230 OK
09 06/11 14:11 2088467366 EC--R 01'27" 005 231 OK
10 06/11 14:42 2083760677 EC--S 01'01" 003 232 OK
11 06/11 14:56 2088886854 EC--S 00'24" 001 234 OK
12 06/11 15:05 2088886854 EC--R 00'39" 002 236 OK
13 06/11 16:25 PUBLIC WORKS EC--S 00'22" 001 237 OK
14 06/11 16:26 2084664405 EC--S 00'22" 001 237 OK
15 06/11 16:27 8841159 EC--S 00'22" 001 237 OK
16 06/11 16:28 2088840744 EC--S 00'22" 001 237 OK
17 06/11 16:29 2088467366 EC--S 00'23" 001 237 OK
18 06/11 16:30 8985501 EC--S 00'22" 001 237 OK
19 06/11 16:31 LIBRRRY EC--S 00'25" 001 237 OK
20 06/11 16:32 92083776449 EC--S 00'21" 001 237 OK
21 06/11 16:32 208 388 6924 EC--S 00'25" 001 237 OK
22 06/11 16:33 2088886854 EC--S 00'22" 001 237 OK
23 06/11 16:34 8950390 EC--S 00'22" 001 237 OK
24 06/11 16:36 208 387 6393 EC--S 00'22" 001 237 OK
25 06/11 16:36 RDR CTY DEIJELMT G3--5 00'39" 001 237 OK
26 06/11 16:38 208-888-5052 EC--5 00'23" 001 237 OK
27 06/11 16:39 CHERRY LRNE EC--S 00'26" 001 237 OK
28 06/11 16:40 POST OFFICE EC--S 00'31" 001 237 OK
29 06/11 16:41 IDRHO ATHLETIC C EC--S 00'22" 001 237 OK
30 06/11 16:42 ID PRESS TRIBUNE EC--S 00'22" 001 237 OK
31 06/11 16:43 208 888 6700 EC--5 00'21" 001 237 OK
32 06/11 16:47 3810160 EC--5 00'32" 001 237 OK
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** TX CONFIRMATIUN REPORT **
{
AS OF JUN 16 '0~ 15:43 PAGE. 01
CITY OF MERIDIAN
DATE TIME TO/FROM
10 06/16 15:42 92083776449
MODE MIN/SEC PGS CMD~ STATUS
EC--S 00' 22" 001 053 OK
-------------~---~------------------~--------~~--------------------~------------------------
MAYOR
Robert D. Corrie
J6~
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LEGA.L DEPARTMENT
(208) 288-2499 . I'M 288-2501
I'ARKS & RECREATION
(208888-3579. Fax 898-5501
PUBLIC WORKS
(08) 898.5500 .F~)l. S87. [2!J7
DUILOING DEPARTMENT
(208) 887-2211 . F~~ 8&7-1297
rLANNING AND ZONING
(2UR) 884-5533 . Fax 888.G&54
CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
Tammy deWc:crd
William L. M. Nary
Cherie McClIJ]dlcss
Keith Bird
NOTICE OF CANCELATION OF REGULAR MEETING
OF THE
MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
Due to the lack of a quorum~
the regular scheduled City Council meeting for
Tuesday, June 17~ 2003
has been CANCELLED.
If you have any questions, please contact the City
C/erk~s Office at 888-4433. Thank you.
DA TED this 11th day of January, 2003.
33 EAST IDAHO' MERIDIAN. IDAHO 83642
(20B) 888.4433 . 1'3)( (208) 887-4813 . City Clerk Office FlU (208) 888-4.218 . Human Resnurccs F3.'( (20a) 884-8723
MAYOR
Robert D. Con'ie
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clfe;;dl;~C- JV -.
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Ylcrh~ I ~.. LEGAL DEPARTMENT
(208) 466-9272 . FAX 466-4405
CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
Tammy de WeeI'd
William L. M. Nary
Cherie McCandless
Keith Bird
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PARKS & RECREATION
(208) 888-3579 . Fax 898-550 I
PUBLIC WORKS
(208) 898-5500 . Fax 887-1297
BUILDING DEPARTMENT
(208) 887-221 I . Fax 887-1297
PLANNING & ZONING
(208) 884-5533 . Fax 888-6854
NOTICE OF PRE-COUNCIL MEETING
MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of Meridian
will hold a Pre-Council Meeting at City Hall, 33 East Idaho, Meridian, Idaho, on
Tuesday, July 1, 2003 at 6:30 P.M. The Meridian City Council will be
discussing the following agenda items:
- Discussion of 2000 Edition of the International Fire Code
The public is welcome to attend the meeting.
dI~~p
WILLIAM G. BERG, JR - CI
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CITY OF MERIDIAN
PRE-COUNCIL MEETING
AGENDA
Tuesday, July 1, 2003 at 6:30 p.m.
City Council Chambers
1. Roll-call Attendance:
Tammy de Weerd Bill Nary
Cherie McCandless Keith Bird
Mayor Robert Corrie
2. Adoption of the Agenda:
3. Discussion of 2000 Edition of the International Fire Code with Joe
Silva:
(20 minutes*)
1< Approximate allowable time set for agenda item may change depending on
discussion. Please use the designated time as a guideline only.
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All materials presented at public meetings shall become property of the City of Meridian.
Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and/or hearings
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06/27 14:30 ADA CTY DEUELMT
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CITY OF MERIDIAN .
PRE-COUNCIL MEETING
AGENDA
Tuesday, July 1, 2003 at 6:30 p.m.
City Council Chambers
1. Roll-call Attendance:
Tammy de Weerd Sill Nary
Cherie McCandless Keith Bird
Mayor Robert Corrie
2. Adoption of the Agenda:
3. Discussion of 2000 Edition of the International Fire Code with Joe
Silva:
(20 minutes.)
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MAYOR
Robe" O. Currk
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pn~ 11~/i"~kJ..~: "\v',', (208) 888.3579. F,x B98.5S01
V. OlU4Ft PUDLlCwORKS
~ JO^HO ~ (208) 898.550U. F,x 887.1297
~ ,?f BUIWING DEPARTMENT
Q..p/ (208) NH7.2211 . Fa. 887.1297
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~.J:s.N"'P-F~ - . d~~~ PI..ANNING & ZONING
(208) 884-5533 . Fax 888.6854
CITY COUNCIL MEMBI3RS
Tommy de WeeI'd
William L. M, N<<ry
Chenc McCandles~
l<~ ilh Bird
NOTICE OF PRE~COUNCll MEETING
MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of Meridian
will hold a Pre~Councit Meeting at City Hall, 33 East Idaho, Meridian, Idaho, on
Tuesday. July 1, 2003 at 6:30 P.M. The Meridian City Council will be
discussing the following agenda items:
- Discussion of 2000 Edition of the International Fire Code
The public is welcome to attend the meeting,
DATED this 27tl1 day of June, 2003.
]3 EAST IDAHO AVENUE. MERIDIAN, rDAHO 1$3642 . (208) 888-4433
CHY Cl~l'k Office fax (20~) 888-4218 . Human ResoUI'ces fa" (208) 884-8723 . FinanC<l & Utility l3illing Fa;.; (:l08) 887.4813
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184 OK
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CITY OF MERIDIAN
PRE~COUNCIL MEETING
AGENDA
Tuesday, July 1, 2003 at G:30 p.m.
City Council Chambers
1. RolI~call Attendance:
_ Tammy de Weerd _ Bill Nary
Cherie McCandless KeIth Bird
_ Mayor Robert Corrie
2. Adoption of the Agenda:
3. Discussion of 2000 Edition of the International Fire Code with Joe
Silva:
(20 minutes"')
"'Approximate allowable time set for agenda item may Change depending on
discussion. Please use the designated time as a guideline only.
M<Tidi.\lJ Ci1y Council Pro-Counoil Aeond., - ,lIlly 1, 2003 PaS" 1 of I
All material. pre!lM~ lit public me~1lS BlwU bccoma pI'<>peI1y oftha City of MeridiGJ:&.
Anyone &~irina :\tco1Ull:loclu1i(>O, for d.i5abilit~ NWed 10 doCUIData lIl1d!or hosting.
pk.~ ooPJtac:tthc City Clerk's O.ttice 018884433 :l1I<tMl48 hO\lnl prior to \he public Medin&-
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DATE TIME TO/FROM MODE MIWSEC PUS CMDI:I STATUS
02 06/27 14:42 8841159 EC--S 013'23" 001 185 OK
04 06/27 14: 44 2088840744 EC--S 00'23" 001 185 OK
05 06/27 14:45 21388467366 EC--S €l0'23" 1301 185 OK
06 06/27 14: 46 89855131 EC--S €l0'22" 1301 185 OK
07 06/2714:46 LlERflRY EC--S €l13'27" 1301 185 OK
08 06/27 14'47 92083776449 EC--S 013'23" 0131 185 OK
09 06/27 14'48 208 388 6924 EC--S 00'26" 001 185 OK
10 06/27 14:49 2088886854 EC--S 00'22" 001 185 OK
11 06/27 14:50 89503913 EC-S 00'23" 001 185 OK
12 06/27 14:51 L~~rel EC-5 00'23" 001 185 OK
13 06/27 14: 52 208 387 6393 EC-S 00'23" 001 185 OK
14 06/27 14:53 ADA CTY DEVELMT G3-S 00'41" 001 185 OK
15 06/27 14: 54 208-888-51352 EC--S 00'22" 001 185 OK
16 136/27 14: 55 CHERRY LANE EC--S e13'26" 001 185 OK
17 06/27 14:56 POST OFFICE EC--S e0'32" e01 185 OK
18 86/27 14:58 IDAHO ATHLETIC C EC--S 130'23" 0131 185 OK
19 136/27 14:59 887 0016 G3--5 e13'40" eel 185 OK
20 06/27 15:00 ID PRESS TRI8UNE EC-5 00'22" e01 185 OK
21 06/27 15' 01 208 888 67e13 EC--S 00'22" 1'101 185 OK
24 06/27 15: 05 121384674538 EC--S 00'23" 1301 185 OK
MAYOR
Rob',1 n. Corrio
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~ CITY OF 1l#.1..~ , PARKS&~F.CRE^TIOt'l
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en oil an ..0/, ~, PUBLIC WORI(S
~ IO^HO , ~' (20$; 89S.5500' F" &87.1297
j~ Bl,IlI,DING DEPARTMENT
/- (J08) 8~7.2211- PM 887-1297
" crs"",u",,~ ..r>!j Pl.At'lNING&ZONING
(20&l 8&1-5533 . F,. SSS.GSs.
CITY COUNCIL ME!MIlr:RS
Tommy do W..ed
Willl.m 1.., M. Nary
Cheno MoC.ndle;,
KcHh Sh.d
NOTICE OF PRE-COUNCIL MEETING
MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of Meridian
will hold a Pre-Council Meeling at City Hall, 33 East Jdaho, Meridian, Idaho, on
Tuesday, July 1,2003 at 6:30 P,M. The Meridian City Council will be
discussing the Following agenda items:
- Discussion of 2000 Edition of the International Fire Code
The public is welcome to attend the meeting,
dld4~p
WILLIAM G. BERG, JR - Cl
DATED this 27lh day of June, 2003.
33 EAST IDAHO AVF.N1JE . MERIDIAN, mAHO ~3642 . (208) 888-4433
City Cle.k Offiee Fox [lOR) RS8.,u 18 . Hum.n Resou,ce. Fv. ('208) 884-8723 . Fin.n"" & Utillly 6;lIin; Fox (208l 8S7-~SI3
** COMMUNICATIONS REPORT ** AS OF JUN 27 '03 15:17 PAGE. 01
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TOTAL PAGES TOTAL TIME
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DATE TIME TO/FROM MODE MIN/SEC PGS CMDt:! STATUS
01 06/27 14:41 12084674538 EC--S 00' 19" 001 184 OK
02 06/27 14:42 8841159 EC--S 00'23" 001 185 OK
03 06/27 14:43 208 387 6393 EC--S 00'18" 001 184 OK
04 06/27 14:44 2088840744 EC--S 00'23" 001 185 OK
05 06/27 14:45 2088467366 EC--S 00'23" 001 185 OK
06 06/27 14:46 8985501 EC--S 00'22" 001 185 OK
07 06/27 14: 46 LIBRARY EC--S 00'27" 001 185 OK
08 06/27 14:47 92083776449 EC--S 00'23" 001 185 OK
09 06/27 14:48 208 388 6924 EC--S 00'26" 001 185 OK
10 06/27 14:49 2088886854 EC--S 00'22" 001 185 OK
11 06/27 14:50 8950390 EC--S 00'23" 001 185 OK
12 06/27 14:51 Laurel EC--S 00'23" 001 185 OK
13 06/27 14:52 208 387 6393 EC--S 00'23" 001 185 OK
14 06/27 14:53 RDR CTY DEVELMT G3--S 00'41" 001 185 OK
15 06/27 14:54 208-888-5052 EC--S 00'22" 001 185 OK
16 06/27 14:55 CHERRY LANE EC--S 00'26" 001 185 OK
17 06/27 14:56 POST OFFICE EC--S 00'32" 001 185 OK
18 06/27 14:58 IDAHO RTHLETIC C EC--S 00'23" 001 185 OK
19 06/27 14:59 887 0816 G3--S 00'40" 001 185 OK
20 06/27 15:00 ID PRESS TRIBUNE EC--S 00'22" 001 185 OK
21 06/27 15:01 208 888 6700 EC--S 00'22" 001 185 OK
22 06/27 15:02 3810160 EC--S 01'27" 003 186 OK
23 06/27 15:04 PUBLIC WORKS EC--S 00'53" 003 186 OK
24 06/27 15:05 12084674538 EC--S 00'23" 001 185 OK
25 06/27 15:06 12084664405 EC--S 00'55" 003 186 OK
26 06/27 15:07 8841159 EC--S 00'53" 003 186 OK
27 06/27 15:09 2088840744 EC--S 00'53" 003 186 OK
28 06/27 15:10 2088467366 EC--S 00'53" 003 186 OK
29 06/27 15:12 8985501 EC--S 00'52" 003 186 OK
30 06/27 15:13 LIBRARY EC--S 01'07" 003 186 OK
31 06/27 15:15 92083776449 EC--S 00'52" 003 186 OK
32 06/27 15:16 208 388 6924 EC--S 01'07" 003 186 OK
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DATE TIME TO/FROM MODE MIN/SEC PGS CMD~ STATUS
22 051'27 15: 02 361101510 EC--S 01' 27" 1303 185 OK
23 136/27 15:134 PUBLIC WORKS EC--S 00'53" 003 185 OK
25 e6/27 15:05 12084664405 EC--S 00'55" 003 186 OK
26 OS/27 15:1378841159 EC--S 130'53" 003 lBS OK
27 06/27 15:092006840744 EC--S ee'S3" 0133 186 OK
28 136/27 15: 110 2088467366 EC--S ee' 53" 003 186 OK
29 136/27 15: 12 8985501 EC--S 00' 52" 1303 186 OK
313 06/27 15:13 LlBRFiRY EC--S 01'07" 003 186 OK
31 06/27 15: 15 92083776449 EC--S 00'52" 13133 186 OK
32 06/27 15: 16 208 388 6924 EC--S 01' 07" 003 186 OK
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CITY OF MERIDIAN
CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
AGENDA
Tuesday, July 1, 2003 at 7:00 p.m.
City Council Chambers
1. Roll-call Attendance:
_ Tammy de Weerd
Cherie McCandless
_ Mayor Robert Corrie
_ Bill Nary
Keith Bird
2. Adoption of the Agenda:
3. Consent Agenda:
A. Approve minutes of June 10, 2003 PreaCouncil Meeting:
B. Findings of Fact and Conclusjons of Law for Approval: CUP
03a015 Request for a Conditional Use Permit to add a heliport with
office and fualing - future fanding pad and hanger on southeast
corner of property in an L-Q zone for St. Luke's Meridian Medical
Center by 81. Luke's Regional Medical Center - east of South
Eagle Road and north of 1-84:
c. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: CUP
03.011 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for two 9,500 square
foot retail buildings with associated site improvements in an L-Q
zone for Resolution Subdivision by G.L Voigt Development -
1611 South Millennium Way and 2045 West Overland Road:
D. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: RZ 03-
006 Request for a Rezone of 3.41 acres from R-4 to R-8 zones
for Bear Creek No.6 by Westpark Company - west of South
Meridian Road and south of West Overland Road:
E. Findings of Fact and ConClusions of Law for Approval: PP 03-
005 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 31 building lots and 2
other lots on 10.49 acres in a proposed R-8 zone for Bear Creek
No.6 by Bear Creek, LLC - west of South Meridian Road and
south of West Overland Road:
Mcridion at)' Co,,",cil AS"'''' ..July I, 2003 l"cgol af3
All tllllt<rlak IXo-..d:n j>Ilbl;.l'Il'~ .1lal1 b.= property of tho City of Mcridi&n.
AnyOllo doiring=IMloil&lion t""di4llhiliti.. rd.!cdto docurot'llt> and/or hcorine
p1= contocl "'. City Clck'. Olli.. tit S'n-4433 lit 1..0'1 48 hIJur. prior 10 lb. public meOlin~
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CITY OF MER]DIAN
DATE TIME TO/FROM MODE MIN/5EC PGS CMDIl STATUS
01 86/27 15:-18212168886854 EC--S 80'52" 003 186 OJ(
82 1216/27 15: 19 120134674538 EC--S 80'52" 003 186 OK
1'l3 06/27 15:21'l 8958390 EC--S 00'51" 003 186 OK
04 1216/27 15:22 Laurel EC--5 130'53" 81'l3 186 OK
05 1'l6/27 15:24 ADA CTY DEUELMT G3--S 01'42" 01'l3 186 OK
1'l6 06/27 15:26 CHERRY LANE EC--S 01'07" 1'l03 186 OK
07 1'l6/27 15:28 POST OFF]CE EC--S 01'28" 1a1'l3 186 OK
08 06/27 15:30 IDRHO ATHLETIC C EC--S 00'53" 1'l1'l3 186 OK
1'l9 06/27 15=32 887 0816 G3--S 1'l1'SI'l" 1'l03 186 OK
10 06/27 15:34 ]D PRESS TRIBUNE EC--S 00'53" 003 186 OK
11 %/27 15:35 208 888 6700 EC--S 00'52" 0213 186 OJ(
12 1'l6/27 15: 40 208 387 6393 EC--S 00'51" 003 186 OK
13 1'l6/27 15:41 208-888-5052 EC--S 00'52" 01'l3 186 OK
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CITY OF MERIDIAN
CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
AGENDA
Tuesday, July 1,2003 at 7:00 p.m.
City Council Chambers
1. Roll-call Attendance:
_ Tammy de Weerd _ Bill Nary
Cherie McCandless _ Keith Bird
_ Mayor Robert Corrie
2. Adoption of the Agenda:
3. Consent Agenda:
A. Approve minutes of June 10, 2003 Pre-Council Meeting:
B. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: CUP
03-015 Request for a CondWanal Use Permit to add a heliport with
office and fueling - future landing pad and hanger on southeast
corner of property in an L -0 zone far St. Luke's Meridian Medical
Center by 81. Luke's Regional Medica! Center - east of South
Eagle Road and north of 1-84;
C. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: CUP
03-011 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for two 9.500 square
foot retail buildings with associated site improvements in an l-O
zone for Resolution Subdivision by G. L. Voigt Development -
1611 South Millennium Way and 2045 West Overland Road:
D. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: RZ 03.
006 Request for a Rezone of 3.41 acres from R-4 to R-8 zones
for Bear Creek No.6 by Westpark Company - west of South
Meridian Road and south of West Overland Road:
E. Findings of Fact and Conelusions of Law for Approval: PP 03-
005 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 31 building lots and 2
other lots on 10.49 acres in a proposed R-8 zone for Bear Creek
No.6 by Bear Creek, LLC - west of South Meridian Road and
south of West Overland Road:
MeridiAn dry c"une,l Ag=ll. - My 1,2GG3 1'0&.1 or3
All IIIIlttrilll. pr..an<<I ill public mo.m.g. oh<ll booolllt p<Op=ty offho City .fMeridian.
MyOflO cJaoirillll oooo,"",edolion for dioahilitio. rd.tal. u. do<Wllt'Dt, .",'1... boming
pl<A:;< cottb<llho C,ty Clorl.'. oe;"".t 888-4433 ..10.0148 &cur. prior 10 Ibe !>"blie moolint.
** COMMUNICATIONS REPORT ** AS OF JUN 28 '03 05:00 PAGE.01
CITY OF MERIDIAN
TOTAL PAGES TOTAL TIME
SEND 0039 SEND 000 13' 56"
RECEIIJE 0000 RECEI IJE 00000'00"
DATE TIME TO/FROM MODE MIN/SEC PGS CMDt:! STATUS
01 06/27 15:18 2088886854 EC--S 00'52" 003 186 OK
02 06/27 15:19 12084674538 EC--S 00'52" 003 186 OK
03 06/27 15:20 8950390 EC--S 00'51" 003 186 OK
04 06/27 15:22 Laurel EC--S 00'53" 003 186 OK
05 06/27 15:24 ADA CTY DEIJELMT G3--S 01'42" 003 186 OK
06 06/27 15:26 CHERRY LANE EC--S 01'07" 003 186 OK
07 06/27 15:28 POST OFFICE EC--S 01' 28" 003 186 OK
08 06/27 15:30 IDAHO ATHLETIC C EC--S 00'53" 003 186 OK
09 06/27 15:32 887 0816 G3--S 01'50" 003 186 OK
10 06/27 15:34 ID PRESS TRIBUNE EC--S 00'53" 003 186 OK
11 06/27 15:35 208 888 6700 EC--S 00'52" 003 186 OK
12 06/27 15:40 208 387 6393 EC--S 00'51" 003 186 OK
13 06/27 15:41 208-888-5052 EC--S 00' 52" 003 186 OK
MAYOR
Robert D. Corrie
~ltto~ r~t ~?lA.kUG '; bCzf~'ThoAtf:S!
.,.>~"," .. LEGAL DEPARTMENT
,~i.'('o<< (208) 288-2499. Fax 288-2501
1'6i~~.di'
~ P r CITY OF i"l..i....._ PARKS & RECREATION
\..../VI erldltrr/ ~.~\ (208 8;~-~~:~ :~:::-5501
\f (208) 898-5500 . Fax 887-1297
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CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
Tammy de Weerd
William L. M. Nary
Cherie McCandless
Keith Bird
BUILDING DEPARTMENT
(208) 887-2211 . Fax 887--1297
PLANNING AND ZONING
(208) 884-5533 . Fax 888-6854
RE-NOTICE OF PRE-COUNCIL MEETING
(Amended 6-30-03)
MERIDlAN ClTY COUNClL
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of Meridian
will hold a Pre-Council Meeting at City Hall, 33 East Idaho Avenue, Meridian,
Idaho, on Tuesday, July 1, 2003 at 5:30 P.M. The Meridian City Council will be
discussing the following agenda items:
- Executive Session as per Idaho State Code 67-2345(1)(b)
- Discussion of 2000 Edition of the International Fire Code
The public is welcome to attend the pre-council meeting but the executive
session is closed to the public.
DATED this 30th day of June, 2003.
33 EAST IDAHO. MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642
(208) 888-4433 . Fax (208) 887-4813 . City Clerk Office Fax (208) 888-4218 . Human Resources Fax (208) 884-8723
? LtCl8c ~~i ~y I\J2ltic. ~'lob c.c- ThY:! R !I d
CITY OF MERIDIAN eVlse
. PRE-COUNCIL MEETING 16-30-03 I
REVISED AGENDA
Tuesday, July 1, 2003 at 5:30 p.m.
City Council Chambers
1. Roll-call Attendance:
Tammy de Weerd Bill Nary
Cherie McCandless Keith Bird
Mayor Robert Corrie
2. Adoption of the Agenda:
3. Executive Session as per Idaho Code 67-2345 (1)(b):
(30 minutes*)
4. Discussion of 2000 Edition of the International Fire Code with Joe
Silva:
(20 minutes*)
*Approximate allowable time set for agenda item may change depending on
discussion. Please use the designated time as a guideline only.
Meridian City Council Pre-Council Agenda - July 1,2003 Page 1 of I
All materials presented at public meetings shall become propCl1y of the City of Meridian.
Anyone desiling accommodation for disabilities related to documents and/or hearings
please contact the City Clerk's Office at 888-4433 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting.
CITY OF MERIDIAN
CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
AGENDA
Tuesday, July 1, 2003 at 7:00 p.m.
City Council Chambers
1. Roll-call Attendance:
)( Tammy de Weerd K
-U Cherie McCandless )(
X Mayor Robert Corrie I
2. Adoption of the Agenda: aj>pr-ovo< a..r tt~ c{,-
Bill Nary
Keith Bird
3.
Consent Agenda:
~VX-
A. Approve minutes of June 10, 2003 Pre-Council Meeting: ~ovu-
B. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: CUP
03-015 Request for a Conditional Use Permit to add a heliport with
office and fueling - future landing pad and hanger on southeast
corner of property in an L-O zone for St. Luke's Meridian Medical
Center by St. Luke's Regional Medical Center - east of South
Eagle Road and north of l-84: o~V( af C tTY'rec-fed-
C. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: CUP
03-011 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for two 9,500 square
foot retail buildings with associated site improvements in an L-O
zone for Resolution Subdivision by G. L. Voigt Development -
1611 South Millennium Way and 2045 West Overland Road: OJ;;nq?Vl-e/
D. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: RZ 03-
006 Request for a Rezone of 3.41 acres from R-4 to R-S zones
for Bear Creek No.6 by Westpark Company - west of South
Meridian Road and south of West Overland Road: ~p-rvV<.L-
E. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: PP 03-
005 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 31 building lots and 2
other lots on 10.49 acres in a proposed R-8 zone for Bear Creek
No.6 by Bear Creek, LLC - west of South Meridian Road and
south of West Overland Road: t7jJ fr~
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10.
11.
F. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: VAR
03-015 Request for a Variance for block length in an R-4 and R-8
zone for Bear Creek No.6 by Bear Creek, LLC - west of South
Meridian Road and south of West Overland Road: ttCfpYVv.-<..)
G. Addendum to Department of Corrections Probation & Parole
Lease for space in Meridian Police Department at 1401 E.
Watertower Street: ~() v'l-C-
H. Rejection of All Bids for Bear Creek Restroom Proiect: ~c)v..e.-
I. Approve Bills: t!VfFPv..e...-
4. Department Reports: - /Vol\..€.-
5. (Items Moved from Consent Agenda): '- noh-L
6.
FP 03-037 Request for Final Plat approval of 30 building lots and 4 other
lots on 7.36 acres in an R-8 zone for Baldwin Park No.5 by Capitol
Development - Northeast corner of North Linder Road and West Ustick
Road: tt~VJL-
Public Hearing: TCU 03-001 Request for a Transfer of Conditional Use
Permit for a Child Care Center in an R-8 zone for All About Kids by Zejna
Garibovic and Kathy Sokoli - 1155 East Chateau Drive:
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Public Hearing: PP 03-009 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 12
building lots and 6 other lots on 10.92 acres in an R-4 zone for Bear
Creek No.7 by Bear Creek, LLC - north of West Victory Road and east of
South Stoddard Road: -YI /. r __ ~
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Public Hearing: PP 03-006 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 17
building lots and 2 other lots on 10.17 acres in C-N and R-40 zones for
Devon Park No.2 by Fairview Lakes, LLC - 824..East Fairview Avenue:
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Public Hearing': PFP 03-002 Request for Preliminary I Final Plat
approval of 3 building lots on 1.55 acres in an L-Q zone for Gaudrv
Seeamiller Subdivision by Gordon N. Anderson - southeast corner of
East Gala Street and South Millennium:
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AP 03-002 Appeal of Planning and Zoning Commission's Denial of
Preliminary Plat for Bloomina Meadows Estates Subdivision by The
Cutting Edge, LLC - 4379 North Locust Grove Road:
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8.
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12. Public Hearing: AZ. 03-011 Request for annexation and zoning of 11.5
+/- acres from. RUT to R-8 and R-15 zones for proposed Bloomina
Meadows Estates Subdivision by The Cutting Edge, LC - 4379 North
Locust Grove Road: ?ljJpe/~ ~ ~/c::~h~
13. Public Hearing: CUP 03-022 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for a
Planned Development for townhouses and single-family homes in
proposed R-8 and R-15 zones for proposed Bloomina Meadows Estates
Subdivision by The Cutting Edge, LC - 4379 North Locust Grove Road:
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July 11,2003
MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL MEETING
APPLICANT
July 15, 2003
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ITEM NO.
REQUEST Approve minutes of July 1, 2003 City Council Regular Meeting:
AGENCY COMMENTS
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CITY ENGINEER:
CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR:
CITY ATTORNEY
CITY POLICE DEPT:
CITY FIRE DEPT:
CITY BUILDING DEPT:
CITY WATER DEPT:
CITY SEWER DEPT:
CITY PARKS DEPT:
MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT:
ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT:
SANITARY SERVICE COMPANY
CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION:
SETTLERS IRRIGATION:
IDAHO POWER:
US WEST:
INTERMOUNTAIN GAS:
MERIDIAN POST OFFICE:
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Emailed:
Date:
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The Regular Meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 7:00 P.M., on
Tuesday, July 1, 2003, by Mayor Robert Corrie.
Members Present: Mayor Robert Corrie, William Nary, Tammy de Weerd, and Keith
Bird.
Members Absent: Cherie McCandless.
Others Present: William Nichols, Will Berg, Brad Watson, Anna Powell, and Dean
Willis.
Item 1.
Roll Call Attendance:
X Tammy de Weerd X Bill Nary
o Cherie McCandless X Keith Bird
X Mayor Robert Corrie
Corrie: All right. I will open the Meridian City Council Regular Meeting agenda,
Tuesday, July the 1S\ at 7:00 P.M. At this time, I'd like to have roll call attendance,
please, by the City Clerk, please.
ltem 2.
Adoption of the Agenda:
Corrie: Okay. First, I'd like to welcome you all here this evening. We do have
distinguished guests with us tonight. Boys and leaders from Troop 153 are here
working on their badge for community -- citizenship in the community. We welcome you
here tonight and hope that we can give you a few pointers on citizenship in the
community. At this time we have the adoption of the agenda. Council, is there any
additions or corrections to the agenda?
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
Nary: I'm going to move that we move Items 11, 12, and 13 up to the beginning of the
Regular Agenda, I guess it would be after Item 5, so that we can hear that prior to the
other ones that are currently six, seven, eight, nine, and ten.
Corrie: All right, any other changes?
Nary: Mr. Mayor, hearing no other changes, I'd move to approve the agenda as
amended.
De Weerd: Second.
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Corrie: Okay. Motion has been made and seconded to approve the agenda as
changed, any further discussion? All those in favor of the motion say aye. All ayes.
Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Item 3.
Consent Agenda:
A. Approve minutes of June 10,2003 Pre-Council Meeting:
B. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: CUP
03-015 Request for a Conditional Use Permit to add a heliport with
office and fueling - future landing pad and hanger on southeast
corner of property in an L-O zone for St. Luke's Meridian Medical
Center by S1. Luke's Regional Medical Center - east of South
Eagle Road and north of 1-84:
c. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: CUP
03-011 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for two 9,500 square
foot retail buildings with associated site improvements in an L-O
zone for Resolution Subdivision by G.L. Voigt Development -
1611 South Millennium Way and 2045 West Overland Road:
D. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: RZ 03-
006 Request for a Rezone of 3.41 acres from R-4 to R-8 zones
for Bear Creek No.6 by Westpark Company - west of South
Meridian Road and south of West Overland Road:
E. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: PP 03-
005 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 31 building lots and 2
other lots on 10.49 acres in a proposed R-8 zone for Bear Creek
No.6 by Bear Creek, LLC - west of South Meridian Road and
south of West Overland Road:
F. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: VAR
03-015 Request for a Variance for block length in an R-4 and R-8
zone for Bear Creek No.6 by Bear Creek, LLC - west of South
Meridian Road and south of West Overland Road:
G. Addendum to Department of Corrections Probation & Parole
Lease for space in Meridian Police Department at 1401 E.
Watertower Street:
H. Rejection of All Bids for Bear Creek Restroom Proiect:
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1. Approve Bills:
Corrie: Item Number 3 is the Consent Agenda.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: There are a few corrections on Item Number S, but I believe that those
could be covered within the motion to approve the Consent Agenda with the changes to
a typo. Is that correct, Mr. Attorney?
Nichols: Mayor and Council, yes.
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you.
Corrie: Okay.
De Weerd: Then, I'd make a motion to approve the Consent Agenda with the
corrections to Item 3-8 and ask the Mayor to sign and the Clerk attest to all necessary
documents.
Corrie: Okay. Motion has been made and seconded. Is there any other discussion?
Hearing none, roll call vote, Mr. Berg.
Roll call: McCandless, absent; Nary, aye; de Weerd, aye; Bird, aye.
Corrie: Okay. All ayes. Motion is carried.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Item 4.
Department Reports:
Corrie: Item Number 4 is Department Reports. Are there any Department Reports?
Item 5.
(Items Moved from Consent Agenda):
Item 11.
AP 03-002 Appeal of Planning and Zoning Commission's Denial of
Preliminary Plat for Blooming Meadows Estates Subdivision by The
Cutting Edge, LLC - 4379 North Locust Grove Road:
Item 12.
Public Hearing: AZ 03-011 Request for annexation and zoning of 11.5
+/- acres from RUT to R-8 and R-15 zones for proposed Blooming
Meadows Estates Subdivision by The Cutting Edge, LC - 4379 North
Locust Grove Road:
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Item 13.
Public Hearing: CUP 03-022 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for
a Planned Development for townhouses and single-family homes in
proposed R-8 and R-15 zones for proposed Blooming Meadows Estates
Subdivision by The Cutting Edge, LC - 4379 North Locust Grove Road:
Corrie: Okay. Then Item Number 6 is -- to hearing Items 11, 12, and 13. We will start
with 11, then, and this is an appeal of the Planning and Zoning Commission's denial of
the Preliminary Plat for Bloomington Meadows Estates Subdivision by Cutting Edge,
LLC, 4379 North Locust Grove Road. At this time Council will hear the appeal and if
there are any comments from staff first.
Powell: I'm not as well organized today. Forgive me. The Council may want to
consider all three items at the same time. What we have recommended to the applicant
is that because the Preliminary Plat was denied, it did end at the Planning and Zoning
Commission and that's why they have appealed it to you. I know this is something new,
so I'll just briefly go over it. It was denied by P&Z, so it's being appealed up to you, but
the other items associated with it, which were the Planned Development and the
preliminary -- and the Conditional Use for the Planned Development and the __
Nary: Annexation.
Powell: -- annexation, thank you, did not stop at Planning and Zoning Commission, so
they came up to you in their normal course of events for you to make a decision on
those. We have told the applicant that they can't really ask for a new Preliminary Plat
with their appeal, but that they ask you to consider a revised layout associated with the
Conditional Use Permit for the Planned Development. That should you feel that that's
more appropriate than the original Preliminary Plat, that you remand all three items back
to the Planning and Zoning Commission for their consideration. That would -- staff
would ask that you open up all three and, then, I can talk about all three or would you
prefer that I just talk about the appeal?
Corrie: Well, Council, if we open it up to 11, 12, and 13, we are opening up the Public
Hearings and I don't know whether we want to get into the Public Hearing on the appeal
and if I do that to all three, then, we open it up. I would rather that we stay with the
appeal first and if we remand -- recommend that it goes back to Planning and Zoning
the Public Hearings are moot at this point.
Powell: Your decision on what you may want to do with the appeal will probably be
dependent on what you want to do with the Planned Development and the annexation,
so maybe we could open that one up last. Sorry. We should have coordinated on this.
I'm sorry.
Corrie: Mr. Attorney, what would you suggest that we do?
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, the -- oftentimes with these kinds of things
if there is an appealable issue when there is a judicial review, the hang up is on a
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procedural level. To error on the side of additional testimony or input before making a
decision is the safest route to avoid some sort of automatic remand from a District Court
judge. If you choose to open all three at once, you can do that. What you may -- but
you also are entitled to structure the Public Hearings in a way that's fair, but yet efficient.
You would -- I think would have the ability to say that what you're going to do is open all
three, allow staff to make comments on all three, since staff believes that the Planned
Development revisions that are proposed by the developer may have a bearing on
those various issues. Then, have the developer come forward and present their case.
Then, you can decide at that point whether you have heard enough to decide the appeal
for which no Public Hearing is necessary, which would necessitate a remand of all three
back to the Planning and Zoning Commission or whether to continue with the Public
Hearings on those other issues.
Corrie: Okay. Well, in the case of there being error on the side of that, I would say,
then, that I would be willlng to, excuse me, open the Public Hearing on Item Numbers
12 and 13 and limit the discussion of the staff to what we need to hear. Then, we will
hear the appeal and, then, if that being done and they wanted to remand it back to the
Planning and Zoning and we will make the other -- so, I will open the Public Hearing,
then, on item 12, AZ 03-011. Request for annexation and zoning of 11.5 acres from
RUT to R-8 and R-15 zones for proposed Blooming Meadows Estates Subdivision.
Also the Public Hearing on CUP 03-022, request for a Conditional Use Permit for a
Planned Development, townhouses, single-family homes in a proposed R-8 and R-15
zone for Blooming Meadows Estates. Again, limiting your discussion to all of it if you
want, but we will hear the appeal first.
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
Nary: I guess the only other comment I would have, I guess, I would have to see how
the testimony evolves. Since the appeal that we are hearing is, essentially, a de novo
hearing, we are, basically, allowing them a new hearing and presenting new evidence
that was not presented at the Planning and Zoning Commission. It probably would not
be very fair to the people that are here to not allow them to comment on that information
before we make a decision on whether or not to remand it. I don't think we made that
clear to everybody. I think if we are going to hear new information from the applicant,
we are going to hear new testimony from the people as well.
Corrie: Okay. Well, my question is how do you know it's going to be new or not.
Nary: Well, I think Mrs. Powell said that's what it was and that's why she said their
Preliminary Plat was different and that was --
Powell: And we have suggested that they propose it as a different Conditional Use
Permit for a conceptual Planned Development and, then, come back.
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Corrie: Okay.
Powell: That's a fine line. Sorry.
Corrie: A very fine line here.
Powell: Yes, sir. I'm sorry.
Corrie: All right. Anna.
Powell: Thank you, Mayor, Members of the Council. This is a request for a Conditional
Use Permit for a Planned Development, an annexation request, and a Preliminary Plat
request and an appeal of a Preliminary Plat request. The property is the long narrow
property highlighted on the screen. It is located off of Locust Grove Road and south of
McMillan as shown. Heritage Commons you can see to the south of the property. The
Comp Plan does have -- this is -- the corner of the property is shown within one of the
neighborhood centers on the Comprehensive Plan. The plat as proposed by the
applicant, it's shown in two parts here. They connect -- at this location connects with
this here. There was no access proposed from Locust Grove. These are townhouses
in this location. A pocket park here next to Locust Grove. More townhouses. These
were standard single-family residential lots. You can see the Landscape Plan there.
Okay. These are -- this is -- this is new information that the applicant has provided
since the Planning and Zoning Commission hearing. There was a question of what type
of product would be provided in the subdivision. These are the proposed single-family
homes and these are proposed -- the proposed townhouses. This is a development in
Surprise Valley on the east end of Boise. They had proposed it similar to this project
here. Staff doesn't have the revised drawing for the Planned Development that the
applicant is presenting tonight. Let me give you a rundown of what happened at P&Z
and I think you will understand a little better the complications we are facing regarding
this project, this was originally submitted by an engineer that is no longer working on the
project. A new engineer stepped in and there have been some orphan problems with
the plat. It just -- the consistency of communication between neighbors and it has not
been good, so there was a little miscommunication. The biggest one being that -- it was
staff's understanding and ACHD's understanding from the first engineer that there was
no opportunity to connect to Locust Grove right here across from Star Lane where --
because they couldn't -- the offset was too great on this property. It was stated that they
were unable to reach a compromise with the owner of this property to share access
there and have an access. All the access for this subdivision came through Havasu
Creek. There was no direct access from the subdivision onto the arterial Locust Grove.
It came down -- access came through here and stubbed at this location and, then, it
came back here into the project. Then, the owner to the south got up, testified, and said
I'm willing to share an access, no one ever got back with me. It was at that point we
were all kind of not sure what to do with it, because that had been a fundamental
decision in the design of the project. Additional testimony at the Public Hearing came
from the neighbors and the basic tenants of those complaints -- or those testimonies
were, one, that -- the no access to Locust Grove. They thought it unusual and a bit odd
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that the access was from Havasu Creek and how would they get signed for sale in that
area. The largest objection was to the townhouses that were proposed. This is
consistent with the Comprehensive Plan, so staff's recommendation was for approval,
again, not knowing that a connection to Locust Grove was possible at this location,
though. The applicant had not had a neighborhood meeting. He has had one, I believe
it was last night, and he can update you on the results of that neighborhood meeting.
The photos that you saw were in response to some of the concerns expressed at the
Planning and Zoning Commission hearing. We have met with the applicant and the
property owner to the south and they are all interested in working together to get the
access -- the access would come here for a distance and, then, meander up to join with
this proposed road here, so it would come through like that. It would leave this property
some frontage on this new road, so that it didn't have to take direct access of off Locust
Grove. That's the end of staff's comments. The applicant does have a concept plan for
the property that shows that access to Locust Grove and he can update you on the
results of the neighborhood meeting.
Corrie: Okay. Thank you, Anna any questions from staff?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Is the applicant here for the appeal?
Powell: Excuse me, Mayor, Members of the Council, because they were last on the
agenda, the engineer is not here right now. We have someone who can speak to the
neighborhood meeting and we can perhaps get him up to the microphone and hope that
somebody calls the engineer.
Corrie: Okay.
McGraw: Rick McGraw, 3090 Gentry Way, Meridian. Our engineer--
Corrie: Do we need to swear him in for our Public Hearing --
Nichols: Well, Mr. Mayor, since you have opened them all, it is recommended you do.
Corrie: Okay. Is the testimony you are about to give the Council the truth, the whole
truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
McGraw: It is. Thank you. Rick McGraw, 3090 Gentry Way, Meridian, Idaho. Our
engineer is not here yet. We thought we were dead last on the agenda and we left a
message for him, but he's not -- he's not answering his phone. I will speak to a couple
items. We did have a neighborhood meeting last night that was well attended and we
answered as many questions as we could regard the transition of the land. What we
had planned and what we saw the product and -- or the project was going to end up
like. We have answered all of staff's questions and concerns and we have got -- the
engineer has all of those seven items resolved and I don't -- I guess he's not turned it
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into staff, but, again, I apologize, we are just -- we just thought we were way in on the
meeting and he's not here. I can stand for any questions. We have met with Anna and
staff and we follow along with what she has said, we agree with what she said up to this
point.
Corrie: Do you have anything from the neighborhood meeting? Do you know?
McGraw: No. We tried to answer all the questions that the neighbors had and there
were a lot of questions I thought were good questions, we answered them as directly as
we could, there were concerns brought up. We just let them know what we plan and we
just -- again, it was a good meeting, we had 20, 25 people there. We went over
questions of density and values of homes, what the style of homes were going to be like
and the builder teams that wanted to come in and that sort of thing, but that's about it.
We talked about landscaping and irrigation and concerns about water, you know, their
wells going lower and things like that, but that was about the gist of it.
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
Nary: In looking at the minutes of the Planning and Zoning Commission, it appears that
there was some discussion there about the density of this particular project. At your
neighborhood meeting was there any discussion or compromise about the density or
were you just telling those folks what you were doing and them telling you what they
didn't like?
McGraw: A little bit of both. When we went to -- when we went to staff, we brought
them the piece of land that we had and we asked them what they would like to see
there, which I think most developers, you know, meet with staff ahead of time. We went
with their recommendations, went back and put a plan together and came up with this
design, with the idea of some town homes up front and the single family behind. A lot of
the neighbors that were there last night were concerned about the town homes and the
size of the lots, valuation of the houses that would be going in there, as far as
compromising the assessed value of their homes.
Nary: Okay. I don't want to keep pulling teeth. There are a lot of people in this room.
I'm assuming they are not here to say what a great plan this is, but maybe I'm wrong,
but the nature of discussion is kind of what -- this is your opportunity to tell us what it is.
McGraw: You bet. I understand that. We fielded every question they had last night
and we thought the meeting went well. They did ask us to make compromises and did
say that if -- if there were no townhomes there -- a few people -- and I'm not going to
paraphrase everyone, because there was a lot of different directions. Some people had
concerns that there was not a road coming in off of Locust Grove, and some were
pleased there that was not going to be a road coming in off of Locust Grove. The major
concern was about density. I think if there was an overall theme to the meeting last
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night was we are concerned about that kind of density out there, them having acre lots
right across the street. .
Nary: Now -- so, if I'm understanding what you're not telling me is that there was not a
reallot of compromise on the density issue.
McGraw: No. We brought in what we thought was a good plan, consistent with what
we felt the city was looking for in that area, and, you know, we felt we put a good plan
together. We wanted to see to if we could pursue getting that planned approved.
Nary: Now, when I read the minutes of the P&Z Commission, I guess I got the
impression that the intent of the Commission in having this go to a neighborhood
meeting was to sort of effectuate some discussion and potential compromise. Did that
not -- that didn't happen?
McGraw: There was a lot of discussion and I'm not sure -- I'm not sure if that's -- if I
agree with that. I think -- and I have been to a lot of neighbor meetings on both sides of
it and I felt it was important for us to let the neighbors know what we had planned there
and we felt it was consistent with what the city was looking for and we did try to answer
some of the questions, but as far as did we compromise the project the way we had
originally presented it at the P&Z, no.
Nary: Okay.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: I guess with some of our newer ordinances we do recommend
neighborhood meetings at the beginning of the process and that is to find the common
ground and compromise and just to confirm what you just told Mr. Nary is you don't
think that that is what a neighborhood meeting is about -- just presenting and letting
them know what you're doing, but not really gathering feedback to make your
application a stronger one.
McGraw: No, that's not what I meant. My feeling about the neighborhood meeting was
that we honestly felt we could go out there, show them what we were going to do, talk
about the value of the homes, that even though it was a higher density, we honestly felt
that we were bringing a good project into that neighborhood. If you were -- you know if
you decide that we need to go back to the drawing board, we need that
recommendation. You know, I have developed a lot of projects, you know, with different
developers in this valley and I know a lot of times it's hard -- you know, it's hard to come
in and have smaller lots come in beside you when you have been there on acre lots or
five acre lots or 10 acre lots. I understand that, but when I look at the overall -- and, you
know, obviously, I'm not an expert in the north end out there, but I see a lot of different
projects going in there with different types of density. I honestly thought that's what the
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City of Meridian was looking for out there. Now, having said that, if the testimony of the
people here is such that you feel we need to go to the table and do something different,
we just need that direction.
Corrie: Well, it sounds to me that, as a good contractor, you would want to try to get
your point across, but it sounds like it didn't go across, that they didn't buy it, is that--
McGraw: No. I think it's fair to say that, you know, we -- the way we explained the
project last night in the meeting, it was understood by everyone -- did everybody agree
with what we were going? No. You know, we tried to show -- and, again, I think the
townhomes -- and, again, if there is testimony beyond my testimony tonight, I think that
the neighbors out there would be consistent in saying that if there were not townhomes
in this project they would be more favorable towards it. Again, I don't want to speak for
them, but that's the feeling I got.
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I think there is more, from the looks of the people that turned out here -- and, you
know, we certainly don't know -- and I'll paraphrase here for this, but your -- in the first
place, your neighborhood meeting probably was about two and a half months too late.
It's recommended and, then, you don't have this kind of stuff, if you're willing work with it
on this -- on the deal. Does your engineer have a cell phone or anything that you can
get a hold of him?
McGraw: We have left messages on both of his phones. Again, I apologize, we
honestly -- last -- when we went to P&Z we were last on the list and we didn't even get
up until 11 :00. We honestly thought we were going to be a little bit further into the
meeting.
Corrie: If you're here enough years, you realize that it happens.
McGraw: And I understand that.
Corrie: I'm sorry that --
McGraw: I'm not trying to make excuses. I'm just trying to say that--
Corrie: But--
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
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Nary: Could you at least give us an indication what you think your engineer is going to
share with us that is going to make a difference in regards to the appeal?
McGraw: All I know is he was going to explain the plat and all of the -- all of the
recommendations that staff had made, the seven recommendations, he had
accomplished that. I have actually got a color rendering of that with me with the
changes made. It looks fairly close to what Anna's got, but it's -- you know, we don't
have it in a format that we can -- I guess we can put it on the easel or something and
show you.
Corrie: Put it so we can see it and also the audience can see a little bit of it as well.
While we make the decision, they have something about it as well.
McGraw: The seven recommendations that staff made were addressed here, from the
landscaping, to the amenities in the common areas, to the sidewalks around the
townhomes, to the fence issues. Anna, I can't remember what else there was on that
list. All of the items that they recommended we change we did change -- or not change,
but add to, so -- the concept itself stayed the same. The overall concept -- oh, and one
of the things they wanted -- let me -- they wanted a little more access from here into the
common areas, so we moved this over to allow for more shot into here. The
landscaping along Settler's here, we couldn't go with the taller landscaping, so -- they
wanted it to be just two foot -- you know, it couldn't be any more than two feet in height.
Then, the volleyball court, a tot lot, and the park benches in the common areas were
addressed as well.
Powell: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, this is not what I anticipated the developer
or the applicant was bringing forward to you today, so if you are confused, there is a
reason for it. I thought that they were going to present a new revised layout. What they
are showing you here is a modified version of their original application that addresses
the issues that the staff had in their original staff report to the Planning and Zoning
Commission. I thought that they were going to be submitting kind of a new concept that
showed a connection to Locust Grove. That's why the -- my testimony before probably
isn't -- wasn't making sense relating to this. This is a modification of what was denied
by P&Z. This would be more of the straight issue of appealing what was denied by P&Z
up to you, rather than a modification.
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
Nary: So, if I understand, then, this now, what your engineer is going to come and show
us is what you -- all you have changed on this plat to this point is the recommendations
that staff has made to the Planning and Zoning Commission. Nothing that was
presented at the Planning and Zoning Commission, as the neighbors concerns, are on
this plat. There is no change in regards to their testimony?
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McGraw: We created a new conceptual plat that showed a road coming in off of Locust
Grove as well. To be honest with you, the engineer will speak to this better than myself.
We honestly thought we were going to come here and be remanded back to P&Z with
those items and it's very likely that the engineer has got that with him and, again, I
apologize, we are not as prepared as we should be.
Nary: Well, is your engineer going to address what grounds you believe we should
remand it, just because you have amended it to include what the Planning and Zoning
staff has already recommended? That doesn't appear to me to be a reason to grant the
appeal and remand it
McGraw: To be real honest with you, this is -- this is over my head and I wish I could
answer all your questions, but I think I would be remiss if I tried to, you know.
Nary: So, you think your engineer is going to be able to answer --
McGraw: Oh, certainly.
Nary: But the grounds for this appeal are why we should remand it
McGraw: I'm sure of that, but, again, he's not here, so we can't--
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I don't think -- I don't think they are prepared to present this as conceptual, that
isn't what we -- that's not what the staff thought they were getting. You know, I just -- I
think they are very ill-prepared to -- and I hate to say that, but -- and I think we either
just remand everything back or we continue this for a couple three weeks and give -- let
them get time to get what the staff has asked for -- I mean I can't judge on an appeal
while I'm seeing a conceptual plan over there that is different of what they brought in
originally and what the staff told them to do, so they went and moved a few lines on the
paper.
McGraw: Could I speak to that?
Corrie: Go ahead.
McGraw: If we do get continued -- and I understand clearly -- if we get could continued,
I think we would appreciate that, if we could get our ducks in a row and get back in front
of you.
Bird: You've got a lot of ducks to get in a row.
McGraw: I understand.
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Nichols: Mr. Mayor?
Sherer: (Inaudible).
Corrie: Mr. Nichols.
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, if I could remind the audience, this is not a town hall meeting where
people can stand up, you have to be addressed by the Mayor before you can speak.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: It appears there are number of issues and not only that is how you began
the planning process. It should have begun with the residents that surround this piece
of property who you impact. I don't even feel comfortable remanding it back to P&Z. I
think this is probably one of the things that you need to start over and go through the
process and try and do it right. You're attempt at meeting with the neighbors last night
was a great beginning, but that's where it should have been is at the beginning and
maybe if you bring it back, we can see all of the changes and all of that now. I just don't
-- what we are hearing is there is a lot of changes to be made and to remand it back we
are going to see a totally different thing and that's a total different application, if you ask
me, and so that's just where I'm standing at this point. I don't know what the other
Council members think, but in my personal opinion it looks like this needs to start the
process again.
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
Nary: I guess I will be stronger than that. I think you have wasted our time. I think you
have wasted all these people's time. I mean this is ridiculous. There is no reason you
should be here tonight with an appeal that you have no idea what you're here for. There
is no reason you should have had a neighborhood meeting with these people with no
consideration of what they want or what they think. What a complete waste of
everybody's time you have caused. We shouldn't be remanding this. You should start
over, because that's the right thing to do. You need to listen to these people. That's
why we have a neighborhood meeting process, so you'll listen to people, not for you to
just tell them what you want to do, but you listen to them and what they'd like to have.
Compromise and communication is what we are talking about. This is ridiculous. I don't
want to remand this, I want you to withdraw it, because you need to start over and you
need to do this right. If you want this to be approved at some point in the future, then,
listen to the neighbors before you waste our time or the Planning and Zoning
Commission's time but this is ridiculous. If you have built other projects as you stated, if
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you have worked with other developers as you have stated, then, you should know
better.
McGraw: May I speak to that?
Nary: If you think it will be better than what you have said so far, then, please, do, but if
it's not any better that what you have said so far, I don't know that you want to bother.
McGraw: Okay. I appreciate your comments and I will take the time and I will bother.
You know, it's not my position to be speaking to you about this. Our engineer, that was
his job, and we honestly thought he would be here and, to be real honest, we thought
we were going to be way into this meeting. I'm not making any excuses, I'm sure he
could have conveyed a lot more to you than I could. I just stepped, because I was the
only one left that could, okay? This is not what I do this is not my end of it. I do know
about the business and I do know a lot about neighborhood meetings and
developments, but I'm not an engineer and I can't speak to the concerns that staff had
or yourself. I'm not trying to make excuses I'm apologizing.
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: What part of this project are you, then? Are you an owner or--
McGraw: I own a real estate group here in Meridian and we are --
Bird: You're the --
McGraw: Real estate broker.
Bird: -- real estate broker and I appreciate you coming up and trying to help us out, but
I'm like Councilman Nary, I think you have wasted our time, you have wasted your time,
and you have wasted a whole lot of people's time here. This project, as far as I'm
concerned, is -- I'm like Councilwoman de Weerd, it needs to go back and start
completely over and just come in and start -- of all people, a real estate agent broker
should know that you start with the people around you that you're going to build by,
have your neighborhood meeting, listen to them -- and I don't say you have to change
everything, I mean I understand that. I don't think there is person sitting up here that
says you have to change everything, but you do have to listen or it's tough and you
have just wasted our time, you have wasted your time, and I understand your engineer
being late, that does happen, so -- you have wasted -- a bunch of people have come
out, I'm glad they come out, I'm glad we had something like this, it's better than nobody
in to talk to, so -- but my recommendation is you pull this baby and go back and start it
over and come back through it the right way.
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Nichols: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, in fairness to the applicant, I think it's a bit
difficult to put them on the spot to decide right now whether to withdraw the appeal on
the -- withdraw the applications and start over. I would recommend that you continue
this item for two weeks and that gives them the opportunity to decide what they are
going to do or your other option is to go fOlWard with the Public Hearing to make a
decision whether to deny or whether to remand or what you want to do.
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I would move for a continuance of Items 11, 12, and 13 to July 15, 2003 the
applicant to come back and tell us whether they want to go fOlWard as it is or reapply.
Corrie: I guess my question is what about Item 11? Do we deny the appeal and, then,
continue 12 and 13?
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, I believe you would want to continue all
three of them together.
Corrie: The appeal as well. Okay. All right. Waiting for a motion, then.
De Weerd: There is no second.
Corrie: I know there is no second, but -- okay. No second.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: I guess, Mr. Attorney, I'm not sure why we are continuing this. If we are
going to deny the appeal, why are we going to prolong the agony?
Nichols: Well, Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, if you're going to deny the appeal,
you better take some more evidence on why the appeal should -- why the appeal should
be denied and -- denied and the decision of the Planning Commission should be
upheld, so that there is an adequate record to base your decision.
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
Nary: Well, the burden is on them. I don't care that you thought it was at the end of the
meeting, your responsibility was to present evidence on appeal. All we have is your
testimony, which isn't adequate, and the statement -- the letter from your engineer,
which doesn't have any ground for appeal. I'm very comfortable in denying the appeal
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based on what you have presented, which is nothing. I don't have a problem with going
fOlWard with it now. If we want to move it to -- after a couple of items to see if the
engineer shows up, I don't have a problem with waiting a couple of items, but I don't
think all these people need to come back in two weeks to decide what -- to figure out
what you guys want to do. You didn't do this right from the start. I don't think we need
to inconvenience 25 or 30 more people again, because you couldn't do this properly,
nor did you want to listen to them twice. You haven't presented any evidence to grant
your appeal. I don't think there is a problem in denying it. If we deny the appeal, you
can present evidence on the other stuff.
McGraw: Can I speak? Could we request a continuance? Do we have the right to ask
for that? I mean, you know, we are ill prepared and, again, all I can do is apologize. If
we could get a continuance, we would appreciate it, so our engineer can be here in a
timely fashion and we can present the information we need to.
Nary: Well, you saw him ask for it once and no one seconded it, so I'm not going to ask
for a continuance. This is your responsibility to be here and go fOlWard.
McGraw: I agree.
Nary: No one else -- especially on an appeal.
McGraw: I understand.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: I guess I would -- I just don't know what the engineer could tell us that -- at
this point that would make it any different. If we change it to a couple items down, I
don't have a problem with that, if Councilman Nary -- if Councilman Nary suggested
that. I don't have a problem waiting for your engineer, as long as it's -- I'm not going to
wait long.
McGraw: I'll try to call him again.
De Weerd: But if we can get through a couple of these other items -- and, I apologize,
we put it further up on our agenda, so you wouldn't have to sit through our other
business, but we can do that and we will -- the rest of the Council may not --
Powell: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Anna.
Powell: I did want to remind you that there are 18 people on the public sign-up sheet,
so there are other people to testify in the Public Hearing.
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Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I'm not for changing it. The Council here, let's just make up our mind to get
something done. This is -- if you want to go through and listen to everything -- if we are
going to deny the appeal or uphold the appeal, let's get that over. These people don't
want to sit here all night and listen to testimony, the same as we don't if we are going to
-- the first item, as I see it, is the appeal and what we do there is going to determine
what we do with the other two and so let's --
McGraw: Can I speak again?
Corrie: Go ahead. The Public Hearing on Item Number 12, then, just want to --
Bird: I just -- let's get the Number 11 taken care of and, then, we can --
Corrie: Okay. It's up to you. I can't vote.
Bird: I can't -- I'm not going to make a motion, so --
McGraw: Step down or -- do you want me to step down?
Corrie: No. That -- yes. If you don't have anything to else to say.
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
Nary: Although I would agree with Mr. Bird that maybe we just need to get on with it,
but, you know, if -- I'm looking at our agenda and Item 6 is a request for a Final Plat
approval and Item 7 is a request for transfer of Conditional Use. Mrs. Powell, is Item 7
fairly short?
Powell: I'm sorry?
Nary: The request for the transfer of the Conditional Use Permit.
Powell: Yes, sir, very short.
Nary: I guess what I was going to move, Mr. Mayor, if we move item -- that we table
Items 11, 12 and 13 temporarily, and hear Items 6 and 7, and, then, we will come back
to Items 11, 12, and 13. That will give them some opportunity to get a hold of their
engineer for anything else that they want to add to provide grounds for the appeal and if
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they don't, then, we can -- then, that gives them an opportunity to at least get something
on the record, if they think they have something that provides the grounds.
De Weerd: Second.
Corrie: Okay. Is that a motion? We have a second, any further discussion?
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: He's going to bring you a map, the same as you just looked at up there, a
conceptual map that they moved some lines to show where they have more access and
stuff. I mean I would concur --
Nary: They can't say we didn't hear it.
De Weerd: It's respect for the process.
Bird: I think we have given them enough respect.
Corrie: Any other comments? Okay. Motion before the floor. All in favor of the motion
say aye. Opposed. Okay. Two to one. We will continue Items 11, 12, and 13 and we
are going to go to Item Number 6 and probably 7 and we will come back and if your
engineer is here we will see what happens.
MOTION CARRIED: TWO AYES, ONE NAY, ONE ABSENT
Item 6.
FP 03-037 Request for Final Plat approval of 30 building lots and 4 other
lots on 7.36 acres in an R-8 zone for Baldwin Park No.5 by Capitol
Development - Northeast corner of North Linder Road and West Ustick
Road:
Corrie: Item Number 6 is a request for Final Plat approval of 30 building lots and four
other lots on 7.36 acres in an R-8 zone for Baldwin Park No.5 by Capital Development,
northeast corner of North Linder Road and Ustick Road. Staff comments first.
Powell: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, this is the fifth in a series of Final Plats on
the Baldwin Preliminary Plat and it is located on the interior of the subdivision. It doesn't
extend to the boundaries at any point. It's this area and it wraps around that way. The
only -- forgive staff for getting this to you late. There was an issue regarding lot counts
in the plats thus far. Over the course of the five Final Plats, there have been five
additional lots. Since we did the lot total there was five additional lots. We were
concerned with this, so we were talking with the applicant about their options. On
Monday they did decide to go ahead and resubmit -- or to submit a new Preliminary Plat
on this property and they'd likely bring in additional property and so they will bring that to
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you for your review and that will accommodate the additional five lots that are in these
plats thus far. We have. made it a condition of approval that they submit a complete
application -- preliminary application prior to Brad Watson signing the Final Plat. That
was the only outstanding issue. That's all, sir. I'm sorry.
Corrie: Okay. All right. Thank you. Is the request for the Final Plat here? Mr.--
Yorgason: My name is Dave Yorgason with Capital Development. The address is 6200
North Meeker place in Boise. Do I need to raise my hand?
Corrie: No. This is not a Public Hearing.
Yorgason: Thank you. We did meet with staff on Monday and recognizing some of the
drawing and layouts we have come up with on the common areas and just more
efficient with some of our road and street layouts. Nothing significant changed there
also. The approval for the subdivision, as I understand it, is 272 lots. We have certainly
not come close to that number at this point in time and we will comply with all the
conditions the staff has written at this time as the staff report is before you. We really
don't have any other comments to address. We appreciate any suggestions that staff
has offered to us, but, no, we stand before you at this time for any questions and just
request approval as the staff report is written.
Corrie: Okay. Thank you, Dave. Any comments? Questions? Okay. Okay. Thank
you.
Yorgason: Thank you.
Corrie: Okay. Since there is no questions, comments, I will entertain a motion for the
Final Plat request.
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
Nary: I would move the approval of FP 03-037, request Final Plat approval of 30
building lots and four other lots on 7.36 acres in an R-B zone for Baldwin Park No.5 by
Capital Development. At the northeast corner of North Linder Road and West Ustick
Road, to include all staff comments and comments the applicant presented this evening,
for counsel to prepare Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law and Decision and
Order.
Bird: Second.
Corrie: All right. Motion has been made and seconded to approve the Final Plat on
Baldwin Park NO.5 and conditions, any further discussion? Roll call vote, Mr. Berg.
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Roll call: McCandless, absent; Nary, aye; de Weerd, aye; Bird, aye.
Corrie: Three ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Item 7.
Public Hearing: TCU 03-001 Request for a Transfer of Conditional Use
Permit for a Child Care Center in an R-8 zone for All About Kids by Zejna
Garibovic and Kathy Sokoli - 1155 East Chateau Drive:
Corrie: Item Number 7 is a Public Hearing. This is a request for a transfer of
Conditional Use Permit for a childcare center in an R-8 zone for All About Kids, 1155
East Chateau Drive. I'm not going to attempt the names, so at this time I'll open the
Public Hearing and invite staff's comments first on the request.
Powell: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, usually a Conditional Use Permit runs with
the land, not with the owner. There is an exception made in our Zoning Ordinance for a
home occupation and day cares and so that is why they have come before you tonight
to transfer it. The only condition that staff has is that they provide evidence of having a
day care license -- provider license.
Corrie: Okay. Thank you. Questions?
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
Nary: Maybe I missed that, but when they transfer to another location, then, don't you
have to provide notice to the neighbors, the same as they would if they were applying
for it there? It seems like you could apply for it one place and, then, transfer it
somewhere else and provide no notice to your neighbors and all of a sudden open of a
day care.
Powell: No, sir. The location has not transferred. The ownership of the day care has
transferred.
Nary: Okay. I got you. I'm sorry. I understand now. My mistake.
Corrie: Okay.
Nary: Same place, different people.
Powell: Right.
Corrie: Is the applicant here this evening? Raise your hands, please. Is the testimony
you're about to give the Council the truth, the whole truth, and nothing, so help you god?
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Sokoli: Yes.
Garibovic: Yes.
Corrie: One at a time, your name and address.
Sokoli: My name is Kathy Sokoli. My address is -- do you want my home address or
the location?
Corrie: Your home address.
Sokoli: 11234 East Marlinwood.
Corrie: Okay. And--
Garibovic: I'm Zejna Garibovic and my address is 3533 Judicial Drive, Meridian.
Corrie: The floor is yours. You want to transfer the --
Sokoli: Yes.
Corrie: Okay. Anything you want to say about that transfer?
Sokoli: The only thing I would say is that we really want to keep the service for these
families. They really count on our service. It's -- that day care does have a good name
and we do want to just continue the quality and service that has been provided these
families for the past six years.
Corrie: Okay. Okay. Anything else? Okay. Thank you.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: I guess a question, then, have they presented the license?
Powell: We made it a condition of approval that they have a month to provide that to us.
I'm sorry. The answer, Councilwoman de Weerd, is, no, we have not seen it yet.
De Weerd: I read between the lines.
Corrie: Is there anyone else from the public that would like to issue testimony in this
request? Okay. Council?
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
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Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: I move we close the Public Hearing.
Nary: Second.
Corrie: Motion has been made and seconded to close the Public Hearing on TCU 03-
001, request for a transfer of a Conditional Use Permit. All in favor say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Corrie: Okay. Motion is approved. The Public Hearing is now closed, any further
discussion? Hearing none, I will enter a motion on the request.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: I move we approve the request for transfer of a Conditional Use Permit for a
child care center in an R-B zone for All About Kids and ask for the attorney to draw up
Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law and Decision and Order.
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Okay. Motion has been made and seconded. Is there any further discussion
on the request for transfer? Hearing none, roll call vote, Mr. Berg.
Roll call: McCandless, absent; Nary, aye; de Weerd, aye; Bird, aye.
Corrie: Okay. All ayes. Request for the transfer of a Conditional Use Permit is
approved.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Item 11.
AP 03-002 Appeal of Planning and Zoning Commission's Denial of
Preliminary Plat for Bloomina Meadows Estates Subdivision by The
Cutting Edge, LLC - 4379 North Locust Grove Road:
Item 12.
Public Hearing: AZ 03-011 Request for annexation and zoning of 11.5
+/- acres from RUT to R-B and R-15 zones for proposed Bloomina
Meadows Estates Subdivision by The Cutting Edge, LC - 4379 North
Locust Grove Road:
Item 13.
Public Hearing: CUP 03-022 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for
a Planned Development for townhouses and single-family homes in
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proposed R-B and R-15 zones for proposed Bloomin~ Meadows Estates
Subdivision by The Cutting Edge, LC - 4379 North Locust Grove Road:
Corrie: Is the engineer here yet? Yes. Okay. All right. Would you have him come
forward, we will open up the -- the Number 11, 12, and 13, and we get it on the road.
Raise your right hand, please. Is the testimony you're about to give the Council the
truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Pack: It is.
Corrie: Okay. Name and address, please.
Pack: Lloyd Pack. 1307 North 39th Street, Nampa.
Corrie: Okay. We are on the --
Pack: Suite 101.
Corrie: We were on the appeal of the denial of the Preliminary Plat at this point, so,
you're on.
Pack: Excellent. I'm representing the client. I apologize for being late. I had an
emergency at home. At any rate, we are appealing the denial of the Preliminary Plat on
the grounds primarily that the denial was not in keeping with the Comprehensive Plan
for the area. That the primary purpose for denial was to have us address seven staff
issues and four issues that the P&Z Commission wanted us to address. Commissioner
Zaremba, in his findings of facts on the 19th of June stated that he did not want to kill
this project, but he just wanted to make the developer address these issues and, then,
be able to come back before P&Z with the issues addressed and, then, move forward
with the project. What we are primarily doing is following the procedure where once the
Preliminary Plat is killed by denial of the P&Z Commission, we, therefore, must appeal
that denial in order to keep it active, so that we can take it back before the P&Z
Commission. We are just following that process so that we might be able to take it back
before them with fixes on the staff recommendations in the four conditions that the P&Z
Commission wanted us take care of. Now, we have got a conceptual plan of a
connection to Locust Grove. We have modified the staff conditions that they would like
to see, such as taking care of the potted trees along Settler's irrigation, located along
the south property line. They wanted us to open up access to the open space between
the town homes and Locust Grove, which the connection with Locust Grove ends up
going away. We have addressed the concerns by holding a neighborhood meeting.
We held a neighborhood meeting last night and had the majority of the people who were
at the P&Z Commission meeting at the neighborhood meeting and discussed what we
had understood to be their primary concerns with the project going forward. They were
very concerned at the P&Z with the reduction in property values, so we presented to
them the fact that our intention is to put forward town home products that would have a
starting price range of around 140,000 dollars, going up. We addressed their concerns
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in terms of the detached single family dwelling units and compared those to the average
market value of homes in their subdivision, to address the issue of whether or not it
would reduce or impact their property values. We also addressed the idea of
congestion, acknowledging that any growth in the area is going to increase the traffic
load on Locust Grove, but also addressing the fact that with Havasu Creek being to the
north of our project at 350 lots, the impact of that 350 will be six times greater than that
impact of our project. Now, that does not diminish the impact of our project, it just puts
it more into perspective relative to the developments in the area. There was expressed
at the neighborhood meeting a large concern over the high-density house -- town home
area. We are proposing to go with an R-15 zoning in the annexation and Rezone
application. Now, that R-15 was a requirement just because there is nothing in the
zoning to allow us to go anywhere between R-8 and R-15. The density that we have is
9.11 dwelling units per acre. We had to go greater than nine -- an R-8 annexation or
rezoning, just because we were trying to follow the Comprehensive Plan, which requires
the bare minimum, as you know, of eight lots per acre. ln order to have the bare
minimum eight, we ended up, as 1 pointed out, was that we ended up with 9.11, which
demanded that we go for R-15 annexation or zoning as part of the annexation. ln
looking at their -- the primary concern of the density, is relative to the R-15 zoning is my
understanding. There were expressed desires to have this Rezoned to R-4 entirely.
That seemed to be more in keeping with the general consensus of the neighborhood.
Unfortunately, that isn't in keeping with the Comprehensive Plan. We either need to
depart from the Comprehensive Plan to accomplish that goal, which, as you know, staff
plans on -- staff is constrained by the Comprehensive Plan. When you go in to sit down
with them and ask them what it is that you can put on the ground, they pull out the
Comprehensive Plan and say, well, part of your project is in the neighborhood center,
therefore, you must have a density of at least eight homes per acre or eight lots per
acre. Given those constraints, we could not go to an R-4 without variance from the
Comprehensive Plan and so we wanted to go with at least the R-8, which we are
looking for in the back portion, which meets the Comprehensive Plan meeting density
requirements. Then, right within the neighborhood center itself, in which the town home
section of this project falls, we are looking for that greater than the lots, which take us
into the R-15 zone. The primary concern with the density is, one that it is a concern --
essentially, is addressed toward the Comprehensive Plan. Our inference from the
neighbors is that they do not like the Comprehensive Plan, that it doesn't represent
what's going to be best for this particular neighborhood. Our project happens to be one
that we are trying to comply with the Comprehensive Plan per staff requirements and it
just doesn't meet what the neighbors would like to see on the ground. Would you like to
see the conceptual drawing that we have put together for the access to Locust Grove at
this point?
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: No, because the fact is that they were asked to bring back a Preliminary Plat and
I've never seen a concept drawing to be construed as a Preliminary Plat and that's -- I
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mean this is exactly what the appeal was for, was for a Preliminary Plat. Well, this
conceptual thing is just something that you take and move the area around to get what
you thought that they wanted, but what I want to see -- what I want to see is the
Preliminary Plat if that's what I'm going to vote on and it can't be conceptual. I've never
voted on a conceptual Preliminary Plat yet.
Pack: And I would agree that that would be the ideal condition. The appeal process,
though, requires us to appeal the Preliminary Plat that was denied by the Planning and
Zoning.
Bird: That means to bring back a Preliminary Plat drawing, not a conceptual one. We
have seen your conceptual one and it -- I mean you moved some lines up so you had a
clear corridor and everything else like that, but I want to see the Preliminary Plat drawn
out on -- as a legal piece of paper. That's what a Preliminary Plat is.
Pack: And, Councilman Bird, I appreciate that. In order to go through that -- the time
that we had in order to deny and, then, appear here, along with the annexation and
Conditional Use Permit, did not allow us the 30 days to go back to ACHD to acquire
their permission for the access. They have denied access on Locust Grove with the
Preliminary Plat as it stood and they were in agreement with that original Preliminary
Plat. That starts the ball rolling and that's why we request for a remand to P&Z, so that
we can go back, develop the Preliminary Plat, go through the procedure with ACHD.
Basically, revise the Preliminary Plat entirely, so that we can take into account the
concerns addressed by the neighborhood meeting and the concerns addressed by the
P&Z Commission, so that we can have that connection to Locust Grove, as everyone
desires. Now, originally -- and just addressing that, my understanding was that there
was some concern with the neighbor to the south being in agreement with granting
access to that property through there for the connection with Locust Grove and ACHD
did not want to allow connection unless it aligned with Star Lane across the street. The
neighbor to the south Lonnie Johnson stated at the P&Z meeting and testified that he
has been in support of that connection and would work with us to obtain that. Then, we
have had some meeting with him toward that end at this point. The preliminary
groundwork has been laid to rework this plat and all that we are asking at this point is
that we be remanded back to P&Z, so that we can fulfill those requirements.
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: We can remand you back and the application -- you can't go any farther until, you
know -- I mean that is something that the applicant can reapply new and start off right
by -- you had your first town meeting -- or not town meeting, neighborhood meeting.
You start off by having another neighborhood meeting and listen to them. Like I told
your partner there, you don't have to go 100 percent what they say, but you should
listen -- you should listen to them and that's why we have them and that's why the ones
that have the neighborhood meeting up front, the developments usually fly through here
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like nothing, and the ones that don't we have problems. We have the Public Hearing
and --
Pack: And I can appreciate that. I wish I had been involved with this more from the
beginning.
Bird: I understand that. We all do.
Pack: And so, then, we could have maybe made some different choices. At this point,
essentially, remanding us back is the same -- going to do the same thing as pulling the
application, in terms of the way the problem gets solved.
Bird: Well, Anna probably can answer that better than I can.
Powell: I'm sorry?
Bird: Anna, he wants to know if he -- if we remanded it back or him pulling it and
reapplying is basically the same.
Powell: The difference would be the application fees. He would be subject to new
application fees if he withdraws and resubmits, but you could remand it back at a date
or at a -- just remand it back and he would have to supply new information before we
scheduled it for P&Z, I believe. It's really a question of just keeping the file number alive
and the application alive and the fees collected with that.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: I guess in the past -- and it's not that we are in this to generate new fees,
but it's going to require a lot more of our staff time, because it will be just like a new
application and it should start a new process, beginning with the neighborhood meeting,
and the public process with ACHD and the public meetings there with the roads -- I __
when we remand -- and we have done it a few times, it's been on a technical -- specific
technical issue, not a whole redesign and so I -- my opinion hasn't changed. I think that
this just needs to start the process again and this time do it right. You know, I
appreciate that you have worked with our staff, but anything you do now, they are going
to be dealing with it just like it was a new application and so --
Pack: In light of that, then, I think we will pull the application and we will begin the
process anew.
De Weerd: Okay.
Pack: Does that meet with your satisfaction?
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Bird: On all three Public Hearings, too?
Pack: I don't know if there is a point in continuing the other two at this point, so --
Bird: That would be the easiest, to just--
Pack: Do you need me to send a letter to you for officially pulling these?
Corrie: Pulling the whole thing --
Pack: Okay.
Corrie: -- and starting all over, because we are getting a -- J'm getting the high sign from
the attorney. I know what I'd do, but let's see what the law is.
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, typically, we deal with the letter thing
when we are in limbo and we are not in the middle of a Public Hearing with someone
under oath. Here we have him under oath withdrawing the application. We can prepare
just a short order on the appeal and on the other two saying that the applicant withdrew
them, in order to resubmit a new application to make the changes.
Pack: So, if I understand correctly, you're saying that you do not want a letter from me,
because I'm repeating under oath and that suffices for the letter?
Nichols: That's what I'm saying.
Pack: Okay so that I understand.
Corrie: It sounds a lot simpler than what I would have done. If you -- since you are
under oath and you want to pull those three, then, we will be all done and you can come
back with a new application and start all over.
NichoJs: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nichols.
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, If Mr. McGrath can just confirm that for us and, then, we have got
both the developer and the engineer saying that it's pulled, then, that's all we need.
McGraw: And for the clarification, it's McGraw. We will pull the application and I'll just
verify that I'm not acting alone.
Corrie: Do you agree? You're going to pull all three of them and it's allover and you
start all over.
Pack: Absolutely.
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Corrie: Okay.
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
Nary: You can certainly get the minutes from our earlier discussion if you want, but I
think the only thing that -- probably the gist of that -- there is a lot of people out here
who have an interest and I'm sure you're aware of that. Our intent of those
neighborhood meetings is to really have some dialogue and communication about it and
I suggest that you do that before you bring this back.
Pack: Okay. Thank you. Anything else?
Corrie: No. That's all we need. Thank you. Now, for the audience, to let you know
what's happening here, Item Numbers 11, 12, and 13 is void. They have to start -- they
are going to start all over. They are going to -- I hope they have the neighborhood
meetings with you and they work together and see what they can do. They have an
opinion, you have an opinion, work it out, they are going to come back to the Planning
and Zoning, and it starts all over again. I don't know whether there is a winner or loser
here, but it's the way the republic is and you have your voice and it sounds to me like
you got the point across to us so, thank you.
Sherer: May I take just a minute?
Corrie: its -- come up here a minute.
Sherer: I wanted to apologize.
Corrie: Okay.
Sherer: I want to apologize to you, to the Council, and to the city attorney, Mr. Clerk
and the Planning and Zoning people. I was out of order and I momentarily forgot my
forum and I do apologize. That's alii wanted to say.
Corrie: I thought sure that's what you were going to say, but I --
De Weerd: Can we get your name and address for the record?
Corrie: I know who he is and I know where he lives. All right. Then, we will do Item 8
now at this time, so if anyone would like to leave -- we'd love to have you sit down and
listen to us, so -- thank you.
Item 8.
Public Hearing: PP 03~009 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 12
building lots and 6 other lots on 10.92 acres in an R-4 zone for Bear
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Creek No.7 by Bear Creek, LLC - north of West Victory Road and east of
South Stoddard Road:
Corrie: Item Number 8 is a Public Hearing. This is for a Preliminary Plat approval of 12
building lots and six other lots on 10.92 acres in an R-4 zone for Bear Creek No. 7 by
Bear Creek, LLC, north of West Victory Road and east of South Stoddard Road. At this
time, I will open the Public Hearing and invite staff's comments first.
Powell: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, this is a redo of a Preliminary Plat on this
portion of the property. Originally -- the original density was a little higher. They have
come in with some larger lots. It's located at the intersection of Stoddard and Victory
Road. The phases to the north have developed and have been done. The northern
boundary of the property is the Ridenbaugh Canal along here. This is the proposed
layout. The internal street would be a private street. They do have a request in for a
variance on the cul-de-sac length. There was -- you will be seeing that later, so this is
coming to you as a Preliminary Plat, but it does exceed the Variance length for a cul-de-
sac and it will be gated approximately in this location. There was a fair amount of
discussion at the Planning and Zoning Commission, so I want to go over some of the
items they talked about. This plat, as submitted, does not hit the five percent minimum
open space that's required of subdivisions. Do we have -- I'm being told that it does
meet -- I'm sorry. There is a little confusion on that issue. I believe that the revised plat
does show that minimum of five percent. They were close. It's a small lot. They were
close on the -- the minimum open space. There was a question of square feet, not
acres, so it was very close. Most of the discussion was on the -- whether or not a
pathway was appropriate. The Comprehensive Plan does designate the Ridenbaugh
Canal as one of the major pathways for the city. The applicant had requested that
instead of providing a pathway along the Ridenbaugh that they be -- that the sidewalk
system along Victory and Stoddard be considered the continuation of that pathway
through the property. The Planning and Zoning did -- in their motion they struck the
requirement that staff had originally had in there to provide the pathway along the
Ridenbaugh Canal and, as I stated, the applicant has submitted a variance request. It
is coming before you at a later date. That would address some of the -- some of the
issues raised at the Planning and Zoning Commission regarding the cul-de-sac. There
was a question of safety, getting into that area, when there is just one -- one road going
into it and a gated road at that. They have met the Fire Department's concerns by
putting a knock box at the gate and there a relatively limited number of lots in this
subdivision, so the Planning and Zoning Commission felt that the longer cul-de-sac
length wasn't inappropriate, given the few number of lots that it was serving. Perhaps
the two outstanding issues are whether the cul-de-sac length is appropriate and
whether they should provide a pathway along the Ridenbaugh Canal, as proposed in
the Comprehensive Plan. It does come forward to you with a recommendation from the
Planning and Zoning Commission. That's the end of staff's comments.
Corrie: Thank you, Anna, any questions, Council?
Bird: I have none.
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Corrie: Okay. Is the developer here this evening? Is the testimony you are about to
give the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Arnold: Yes, it is.
Corrie: Name and address, please.
Arnold: For the record, my name is Steve Arnold I'm with Briggs Engineering, 1800
West Overland Road. I'm here representing the applicant tonight of Bear Creek, LLC. I
will briefly discuss, basically, the project in general and, then, I will go into the issues
that were raised tonight by the staff. What we have here tonight is basically the same
thing that the Council approved back in '99, with the only exception of the private road.
As it stands right now, the Preliminary Plat approval for this phase is still active and we
still have that approval. The reason we are back here before you tonight, we have __
again, we have eliminated a lot. The developer wants to create kind of an exclusive
community here with nicer, larger homes. We are planning to do quite a bit more
extensive landscaping in front. As a matter of fact, we talked about a water amenity,
some sort of creek along Stoddard Road, because the project name is Bear Creek and
in the whole subdivision, we don't have a creek. Hence, the -- we are trying to make a
nice gated entry there and I have done similar entries on other developments with water
and I think what we have before you tonight is a better project than what we previously
got approved from you, so -- I will go into the issues that was raised. Basically, the staff
report, as it stands right now, we are in full support. The Planning and Zoning
Commission and concerns with the pathway, they heard our testimony, they discussed
the issues of placing the pathway there. One of the biggest concerns that they had was
the safety. The Ridenbaugh Canal there is concrete lined and that is a serious safety
consideration that we have, along with P&Z. The other testimony that I presented that
night was -- and this Council is very familiar my other problem, the Lakes at Cherry
Lane No.9, which I promised to get to you with a modification the middle of July -- it
might be the end of July now. I don't want to have to go back before Nampa-Meridian
and the P&Z council, fighting with them trying to get a pathway in there. There was
discussion about the master agreement plan, but that agreement discusses purely
drainage. This is a high volume canal and I can guarantee you I can't get that
approved. You guys may, but that's a battle I don't want to have to deal with again. It's
been three years with the Lakes at Cherry Lane -- over three years with the Lakes at
Cherry Lane No.9 and I don't want to have to deal with that. The open space, we
adjusted the plat, we do have the five percent open space in there right now, so we did
comply with that. The cul-de-sac length, this was an issue and I'd ask some guidance
from the attorney, but the Preliminary Plats for Bear Creek back in 1999 was approved
with this exact same configuration. The only thing different was we had a hammerhead
turn around at the end, instead of the turn around of -- the radius turn around, which
you're seeing now. It was my understanding that the variances ran with the property, 1-
- because the Council previously granted this, it was my understanding that that would
be granted with this. I may be wrong. That being said, not being sure if that was the
case. We submitted a variance that will be up before you. If we don't need it -- I just as
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soon not be at another Public Hearing. I wouldn't mind having to withdraw that, perhaps
even get the fees back. In regards to safety, I remember someone at ACHD that told
this developer not just no, but, heck no, you can't have access out on Victory. They got
site distance and issues at that location and Stoddard Road was safe, so we looked at
modifying the entrance and strongly recommended to the developer not to put it out
onto Victory, that there is no amount of grading that would have made that safe, so --
this is the configuration that was developed and I don't see much of other -- any options.
Again, we have -- we believe we have created a better plat than what we had currently,
and we are before you tonight asking your approval of that design. I'll stand for any
questions.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: No questions, but I agree with you on the pathway. Anna, is there anything
that will connect to this to make it reasonable to require the pathway along there?
Powell: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, this is a significantly different situation than
the Lakes at Cherry Lane and that is that pathway was provided in that subdivision as
an amenity proposed by the applicant. In this case it is shown on as a designated
pathway on the master -- on the Comprehensive Plan. There is the potential, as you
see here, there is all undeveloped land to the north of that. It could potentially go
through there and as well over here, although we wouldn't -- the Comp Plan shows it
kind of coming down around the lakes in that location. We would anticipate that it would
probably go over there and, then, pick up here at these larger parcels and redevelop.
There is the potential that this could connect to a citywide system, yes. Presumably,
that the Commission and the Council was aware that the Ridenbaugh was largely a
concrete lined canal at the time that the Comprehensive Plan was prepared.
De Weerd: Well, that may be true, but I do know there has always been this desire from
this Council to have a more realistic pathway plan, to have someone really study that.
Because at that time, you know, it still was conceptual and I don't know how much
forethought went into it as far as safety, who pays for it, and some of the realisms of will
it ever connect together. There is still work to be done with the pathway and I guess as
we are looking at one of the first pieces in this whole thing, we need to really think about
is it reasonable or is it more reasonable taking it through a meandering type of sidewalk,
to connect it from one point to another or what. I don't know. I don't know.
Arnold: Mr. Mayor, you know if I can address the issue of the pathway. I think it's a
good idea. I mean, as Anna explained, you have got a long canal and irrigation ways,
it's a good idea to have those pathways. They are nice to connect, but I would have
some concerns, again, going back to the safety issue, but my number one thing is
having to deal with Nampa-Meridian with this canal issue. I have had a very bad
experience with The Lakes at Cherry NO.9. Amenity or not, they don't care, they see it
as a liability, they see it as a problem for them, and if this Council can get some of that
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concerns from them taken away and start putting pathways out there, I think that's good.
I think that's good planning, I think they are nice to walk on, regardless if it's concrete or
not, you know, people are going to walk on it regardless. In this situation, I think you
have got the alternative connection with the Stoddard Road and Victory Road sidewalk,
so if, for any reason in the future, you do get what staff is recommending on these other
pathways, I don't think by eliminating this connection that you're giving up future options
in that area. So -- and the main thing is I don't want to work with Nampa-Meridian. I
don't think -- four years of not very pleasantry --
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Tell us how you really feel.
Arnold: I'll recommend they pull the application.
Nary: Really, the bottom line, Mr. Arnold, is you would like to eliminate that, so you
don't have to deal with it anymore, because it really doesn't make a lot of difference to
us. We don't have to deal with it, you do.
Arnold: Mr. Mayor?
Nary: I want to hear you ask it like that.
Arnold: I will turn it around in a different angle. You will have to deal with me having to
deal with that.
Nary: Well, that's a pretty good incentive as well. I do commend you folks for at least
wanting to put in a creek. You know, there is not a vineyard in the Vineyards and I don't
think Fairview Lakes has put a lake in, so -- but that's kind of normal, but I commend
you for wanting to at least provide an amenity. I think the thing to --
Arnold: Mr. Mayor, Councilman Nary, I think this is probably -- this is going to be one of
the last phases. I think this is probably going to be the cream of Bear Creek, so I think
the projects have been great and with these types of projects it's nice to stand before
you and ask for approval, so --
Powell: Mr. Mayor?
Arnold: -- I'll ask for a motion and I'll shut up and stand for questions.
Powell: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, it's been perhaps a compromise, hearing
the concerns I'm hearing -- I have heard, is that maybe the city might leave an option
open for a pathway at a future date. It is in -- the Ridenbaugh easement is within a
single lot in the subdivision and if we could perhaps leave an easement, but not require
the applicant to construct a pathway at this time, at least we would be -- if, in the future,
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you decide that a pathway is appropriate through that area, then, at least you have that
ability to go and constructit at a later date.
Corrie: Okay. I don't think it will happen, but - Council do you have any questions?
Bird: No, I don't.
Nary: No.
Corrie: Do you have anything else?
Arnold: No. I have nothing else.
Corrie: Well. This is a Public Hearing, anyone else from the public that would like to
issue testimony? Yes, sir. Yes. Is the testimony you are about to give the truth, the
whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Bail: Yes, it is.
Corrie: Name and address, please.
Bail: My name is Rich Bail. I live at 3114 Stoddard Road. I live in the house on the
corner. They told me I had about three years. This really doesn't concern what's going
on right here this evening, but the people who we pay our rent to -- well, of course, Bear
Creek has --
Corrie: Can you see your --
Bail: You can see our roof up there.
Corrie: Okay.
Bail: But my wife and I are having a house built over in Caldwell and we are not going
to be able to get into it until the early fall or something like that. I didn't know if I was
going to be able to meet anybody from Bear Creek this evening or what the plans were,
kind of why I want to come and sit through and find out what was going on. Nobody has
actually told us yet, the owners or the people we pay our rent to. If we have to get out --
I have heard two different dates and both the dates are a little bit earlier than what --
what I'm -- I don't want to have to sign a lease to rent a place when our house is going
to be done in early fall. I was hoping to meet somebody maybe from Bear Creek who
could, you know, let me know, you know, what was going to go on here. It's a beautiful
view. I'd love to own that house. It's going to be a beautiful place to live, from what I
have heard. It's a spectacular view. We have been there for a year. The mountains,
the whole valley. I'd love to live there, but it's going to be a very nice place and it
sounds like they are doing a really nice job and I was just really curious to see if I was
going to be able to stay there for two or three more months, you know, unless -- that's
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kind of why I came. I didn't know what was going to be said this evening or -- you know,
that's why I'm here.
Corrie: Okay. Let me ask -- I don't think that it will probably have that much affect on
you -- on the house, will it, the construction of the --
Arnold: Mr. Mayor. I guess you are on the property that we are developing or are you
across the road?
Bail: No. I'm -- this is my house right there. Well, not my house, but I live right there.
Arnold: Oh. Okay.
Bail: The only house -- now, Bear Creek already owns this house right --
Arnold: Right.
Bail: -- there. They pay their rent to -- we pay our rent to -- to the people that still own --
the owners have -- when they came to change the filter on the furnace last Monday,
they did tell us that they were -- as of August Bear Creek was going to own that. She
didn't -- she just didn't know whether they were going to make us leave immediately or if
we were going to have to pay our rent to them or -- she couldn't tell us. You know, we
are having a home built and it's going to take a few months to get done, but -- it's over in
Caldwell. We are having a nice home built there.
Corrie: Do you think this follows or do you even know?
Arnold: Mr. Mayor, I guess -- I don't know right off the bat. I can tell you what we are
developing first, though, is -- we have got Bear Creek 6 that you just saw and approved.
You're about to see Bear Creek 8 coming in. I think that's the next focus of their
development. Those are the lots that are of concern. Bear Creek 8 is the vacant parcel
there. I don't -- I can't speak on behalf of -- are we doing this phase contiguous. I can
tell you that those lot sizes that we have got in Bear Creek, which you have here before
you tonight they are the slowest moving. I can't say for certain that we are not going to
do it simultaneously. I would base my comment tonight on the market, which they are
driving us to do. I know they are pushing me pretty hard to get Bear Creek 8 into you
guys, along with Bear Creek 6. Thinking out loud, Bear Creek 6, we just, again,
construction, that's probably 90 days on that. I think when we move off that phase, we
will start Bear Creek 8. I can say for certain we have got 90 days -- 90 to 120 days of
construction, but, seven, I just -- I would guess we'd hit that early somewhere around
the first of the year. I'm not sure when you're building, but I know that -- I just moved
and built and I know what it's like renting and it's not pleasant. I guess I can get your
name and number and get with the developer and --
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Bail: I kind of thought maybe they had already put the lot on the market, because last
week there was a lot of people in the field behind and beside our house, walking around
in my backyard and taking snap shots of the view. I wanted to put up a sign and --
Corrie: Why don't we do this, you give him your name and he can kind of contact you
and say what it's going to be there, because I don't know -- it's kind of hard for us to tell
what they are going to do after we are finished here, but he's an got idea, but we never
know.
Bail: Yes. I heard two different -- 1 have heard September 30th, then, I did hear the
other day August 1 sl and I'm thinking --
Corrie: That may be a little fast. You can discuss it with him.
Bail: I appreciate this. I didn't know if I would be paying rent -- I didn't know who I __
apparently I didn't know who to pay the rent and possibly the last month when I went to
pay the rent and I said, well, who are we going to pay rent to. She said maybe nobody.
I'm thinking --
Nary: Free rent.
Bail: Just got scared, so I went online last night and found out that, you know, the law in
Idaho, that somebody has to give you 30 days written notice or something, something
like that, so I thought, well, July 1st 1 might have two more --
Corrie: Maybe they can work it out with you and maybe --
Bail: Just a couple two or three months and we are out of there, but -- it's hard to find a
place a rent month by month.
Corrie: I understand.
Nary: If you were building a house in Bear Creek, you would have more time.
Bail: Like 1 said, it's a beautiful -- the most beautiful view I have ever, you know, seen in
the valley and it's going to be an exclusive place.
Corrie: Okay.
Bail: It's going to be out of my league.
Corrie: Okay. Thank you, Rich. Anyone else like to give testimony? Okay. Hearing
none, questions on the Public Hearing?
Bird: I have none.
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Corrie: Okay. I will entertain a motion to close the Public Hearing.
Nary: So moved.
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to close the Public Hearing on the PP 03-009,
request for Preliminary Plat. All those in favor say aye. Opposed no. All ayes.
MOTION CARRIED: TWO AYES, TWO ABSENT
Corrie: Okay, any other questions? Okay. Then I will entertain a motion on the request
for the Preliminary Plat.
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
Nary: I would move the approval of PP 03-009 request for Preliminary Plat approval of
12 building lots and six other lots on 10.92 acres in an R-4 zone for Bear Creek NO.7 by
Bear Creek, LLC. North of West Victory Road and east of South Stoddard Road, to
include all staff comments and comments as presented by the applicant this evening,
with an amendment to Item 12 of the conditions of approval of the Preliminary Plat.
That the condition now reflect that the applicant will provide an easement located on the
south side of the Ridenbaugh Canal to be used -- to potentially be used at some point in
the future for the Parks Department master pathway plan, any other language
consistent with that. That they not be required to construct a multi-use pathway, a
micro-path connection at this point.
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Okay. Motion and --
Nary: Oh, and Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law and Decision and Order.
Sorry.
Bird: Second agrees.
Corrie: Okay. Motion has been made and seconded. Is there any further discussion?
Hearing none, roll call vote, Mr. Berg.
Roll call: McCandless, absent; Nary, aye; de Weerd, absent; Bird, aye.
Corrie: Okay. The Preliminary Plat request is approved.
MOTION CARRIED: TWO AYES, TWO ABSENT
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ltem 9.
Public Hearing: PP 03-006 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 17
building lots and 2 other lots on 10.17 acres in C-N and R-40 zones for
Devon Park No.2 by Fairview Lakes, LLC - 824 East Fairview Avenue:
Corrie: Item Number 9 is a Public Hearing. This is a request for a Preliminary Plat
approval of 17 building lots and two other lots on 10,17 acres in a C-N and R-40 zones
for Devon Park No.2 by Fairview Lakes, LLC, 824 East Fairview Avenue. At this time, I
will open the Public Hearing and invite staff's comments first.
Powell: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, this property is probably looking fairly
familiar to you at this point. You recently saw a Planned Development -- this property
had a Planned Development application that came through that was approved and,
then, the applfcant submitted a revised Planned Development application that has also
come through and that was recently approved. It did not have the Preliminary Plat -- the
Preliminary Plat accompanying it. That was filed CUP 03-014. The applicant -- as
shown up here, this is a -- this proposal tonight is Devon Park No.2, as you have
originally seen it, and Devon Park No.1. It is located on Fairview Avenue. The portion
of the property that's in Devon Park No. 1 is -- that's the area in Devon Park No.1. The
southern portion is the area within Devon Park No.2. The applicant is proposing this L-
shape on the northern portion and, then, the southeastern portion of Devon Park NO.2.
This is consistent with the Planned Development that you have approved. The Planned
Development covers the whole area for Devon Park NO.1. They are choosing to
withhold this at this time, the western portion of the site. They are going to see how the
market forces go on this portion and, then, they will likely resubmit for a similar pattern
or a mirrored pattern on there. These are apartment uses clustered around the open
space of the related canal and, then, these are small office lots. This is the Landscape
Plan. It includes all of Devon Park NO.1 and Devon Park No.2 at this point. The
portion we are looking tonight, again, goes -- makes an L shape to get the north and
eastern portions of that property there. These are small commercial and office lots
along the perimeter and, then, also in the center. Staff has no issues with the
Preliminary Plat. It is recommended for approval from the Planning and Zoning
Commission. Really, the issue, the designs were worked out at the Planned
Development stage and they have proposed one that is consistent with that approved
Planned Development application.
Corrie: All right. Thank you, Anna. Any questions from staff?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Okay. Is the applicant's representative here tonight? Is the testimony you are
about to give the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Tamura: Yes, it is.
Corrie: Thank you. Name and address, please.
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Tamura: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, my name is Doug Tamura, 499 Main
Street. I'm one of the owners and developers of this project and I'm just here to say that
we concur with staff's recommendations of approval of this project. The only thing I
have got is one kind of housekeeping item -- is under Item Number 6. It says applicant
shall revise the plat to correctly place the 35 foot wide landscape buffer, so they do not
include the 45 feet -- the extra ten feet of right-of-way dedication. Do you know where
that -- where that dimension is at? The only thing that we could think of was along
Fairview Avenue and we have met with the Highway District and what the Highway
District was thinking that we had an option. One of the things that I told them was that
we were going to apply for a License Agreement to put the sidewalk on our -- inside the
landscape buffer along Fairview. Then, that way it would prevent them from having to
purchase the right of way from us and they could live with the existing right of way for
the width of Fairview. I don't know if that's what they are talking about, but that's the
only thing that I could see that would apply to that one condition and to at least clean it
up, so it's not confusing. Or maybe we should just delete Number 6. Can you find it,
Brad?
Powell: Mayor, Members of the Council, we are not sure. That may have been a hold
over from the original -- one of the original approvals where it did connect down to
Fairview, because just first glance would seem that that does seem to be excessively
wide for -- given that they don't have frontage on an arterial road. We can blame it on
Dave.
Nary: Blame it on Dave.
Corrie: We will do that.
Powell: We can work with the applicant to review that and find the appropriate one. I'm
not sure how you'd like to deal with it. For now we can, either propose to strike it and
add it as a condition of the Final Plat if it's still appropriate or if it's --
Corrie: Thank you. Any questions? Okay. Is there anybody else from the public that
would like to issue testimony? All right. Then, I will entertain a motion to close the
Public Hearing.
Bird: So moved.
Nary: Second.
Corrie: Motion has been made and seconded to close the Public Hearing. All in favor
say aye. All ayes. Motion carried. Public Hearing is closed on Item Number 9.
MOTION CARRIED: TWO AYES, TWO ABSENT
Corrie: Any further discussion?
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Bird: I have none.
Nary: No.
Corrie: Then, I'll entertain a motion on the Preliminary Plat of Devon Park NO.2.
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I would move that we approve PP 03-006, request for Preliminary Plat approval of
17 building lots, and two other lots on 10.17 acres in C-N and R-4 zones for Devon Park
NO.2 by Fairview Lakes, LLC, 824 East Fairview Avenue. To strike Item Number 6 in
the conditions and to come back on the Final Plat and for the attorney to draw up
Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law and Decision and Order.
Nary: Second.
Corrie: Okay. Motion has been made and seconded for approval of a request, any
further discussion? Hearing none, roll call vote, Mr. Berg.
Roll call: McCandless, absent; Nary, aye; de Weerd, absent; Bird, aye.
Corrie: Okay. All ayes. Motion is approved. Or that is with two ayes motion is
approved.
MOTION CARRIED: TWO AYES, TWO ABSENT
Item 10.
Public Hearing: PFP 03-002 Request for Preliminary / Final Plat
approval of 3 building lots on 1.55 acres in an L-Q zone for Gaudrv
See~miller Subdivision by Gordon N. Anderson - southeast corner of
East Gala Street and South Millennium:
Corrie: Item Number 10 is a Public Hearing, request for a preliminary/Final Plat
approval of three building lots on 1.55 acres in an L-O zone for Gaudry Seegmiller
Subdivision by Gordon N. Anderson, southeast corner of East Gala Street and South
Millennium. I will open the Public Hearing and invite staff's comments.
Powell: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, this is yet another in a series of re-
subdivisions and I believe it's Millennium Subdivision is the parent subdivision. On this
one they are -- do have access along two roads, that's Gala and Millennium Way. This
was a combined preliminary and final. That first drawing you saw was the Preliminary
Plat. The Final Plat is a lot easier to read. They do -- are proposing three lots. Each
would have frontage on a public road. Lot 1 takes access off of Gala. Lot 2 is the
corner Jot with frontage on both Millennium Way and Gala Street and, then, Lot 3 would
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have -- would have frontage along Millennium Way, although the access would come --
be internal to the subdivision. They are providing two access points, one at Gala Street
and one off of Millennium Way and, then, they have shown a cross-access here on the
flag of the lot below and that will be an issue, so I will go briefly to show you that flag lot.
This lot has a minimum amount of frontage on Millennium Way and, then, it is kind of
tucked behind in the corner of this area here. This is -- both of these are vacant parcels
surrounding the subject property. This came forward with a recommendation for
approval from the Planning and Zoning Commission. The primary issue of discussion
was the need for cross-access within the subdivision to the surrounding property. At
that time they specifically talked about adding cross-access at this point and at this
point. Please note that they do have cross-access or a point to access the flag lot at
this location here. The Planning and Zoning Commission required that applicant submit
a revised plat to us ten days prior to hearing. I have -- they have not provided that. I
believe it's because they do not wish to provide the cross-access and I believe the
applicant can speak to that issue. Staff had -- the consensus among staff was that, yes,
this should go through. Applicant -- the property owner to the south did -- was pushing
for this particular access, so they could have access straight from Gala Street into their
property, rather than having to come kind of this round about way. I guess it's a good
question for City Council as to which route would be most appropriate. The city has
made a commitment to having interconnected commercial properties. It's a hard call for
staff on this one whether it would be appropriate or not. At a minimum, staff would like
to see a pedestrian connection at this location. That includes staff remarks.
Corrie: Okay. Thank you, any questions for staff?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: All right. This is a Public Hearing. Is the applicant here this evening? Good
time to continue the Public Hearing.
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Anna, 1 got a question. You said one of the conditions that they had to have a
revised Preliminary Plat in here ten days before we put it on the schedule -- we put it on
our calendar. Why do we put it on our calendar if we didn't have a deal -- we didn't
have the revised, if that was one of the conditions you want to put it on there. Is there a
reason? Mr. Clerk, is it a legal reason or something that we -- okay. That's what I
thought. That's what I was thinking. We have so many days to do it--
Berg: Yes, Councilman Bird, we had already noticed the Public Hearing in the paper
way prior to the 10 days.
Powell: Mr. Mayor, Council member Bird, typically, what we would do when we haven't
received that is just automatically request to continue it. Where it didn't require much
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imagination to envision what the cross-access would mean in this instance, I decided to
go ahead and present it to you, not knowing that there was no applicant, so I'm sorry
about that.
Bird: No problem. Not your fault. Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: With that I would move that we continue Public Hearing PFP 03-002, request for
preliminary and Final Plat approval of three building lots on 1.55 acres in an L-O zone
Gaudry Seegmiller Subdivision by Gordon Anderson, until July 22, 2003.
Nary: Second.
Corrie. Okay. Motion has been made to continue the Public Hearing on Item PFP 03-
002, request for Preliminary and Final Plat. Is there any further discussion? All those in
favor of the motion say aye. Two ayes. Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: TWO AYES, TWO ABSENT
Corrie: Okay. That ends our meeting tonight, so I will entertain a motion to adjourn, if
there is nothing else.
Nary: Mr. Mayor, I'd move to adjourn.
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Motion has been made and seconded. All those in favor say aye?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Corrie: We adjourned at five minutes until 9:00.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:55 P.M.
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CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
AGENDA
Tuesday, July 1, 2003 at 7:00 p.m.
City Council Chambers
1. Roll-call Attendance:
Tammy de Weerd
Cherie McCandless
Mayor Robert Corrie
Bill Nary
Keith Bird
2. Adoption of the Agenda:
3. Consent Agenda:
A. Approve minutes of June 10, 2003 Pre-Council Meeting:
B. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: CUP
03-015 Request for a Conditional Use Permit to add a heliport with
office and fueling - future landing pad and hanger on southeast
corner of property in an L-O zone for St. Luke's Meridian Medical
Center by St. Luke's Regional Medical Center - east of South
Eagle Road and north of 1-84:
C. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: CUP
03-011 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for two 9,500 square
foot retail buildings with associated site improvements in an L-Q
zone for Resolution Subdivision by G. L. Voigt Development _
1611 South Millennium Way and 2045 West Overland Road:
D. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: RZ 03-
006 Request for a Rezone of 3.41 acres from R-4 to R-B zones
for Bear Creek No.6 by Westpark Company - west of South
Meridian Road and south of West Overland Road:
E. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: PP 03-
005 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 31 building lots and 2
other lots on 10.49 acres in a proposed R-B zone for Bear Creek
No.6 by Bear Creek, LLC - west of South Meridian Road and
south of West Overland Road:
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F. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: VAR
03-015. Request for a Variance for block length in an R-4 and R-8
zone for Bear Creek No.6 by Bear Creek, LLC - west of South
Meridian Road and south of West Overland Road:
G. Addendum to Department of Corrections Probation & Parole
Lease for space in Meridian Police Department at 1401 E.
Watertower Street:
H. Rejection of All Bids for Bear Creek Restroom Proiect:
I. Approve Bills:
4. Department Reports:
5. (Items Moved from Consent Agenda):
6. FP 03-037 Request for Final Plat approval of 30 building lots and 4 other
lots on 7.36 acres in an R-8 zone for Baldwin Park No.5 by Capitol
Development - Northeast corner of North Under Road and West Ustick
Road:
7. Public Hearing: TCU 03-001 Request for a Transfer of Conditional Use
Permit for a Child Care Center in an R-8 zone for All About Kids by Zejna
Garibovic and Kathy Sokoli - 1155 East Chateau Drive:
8. Public Hearing: PP 03-009 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 12
building lots and 6 other lots on 10.92 acres in an R-4 zone for Bear
Creek No.7 by Bear Creek, LLC - north of West Victory Road and east of
South Stoddard Road:
9. Public Hearing: PP 03-006 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 17
building lots and 2 other lots on 10.17 acres in C-N and R-40 zones for
Devon Park No.2 by Fairview Lakes, LLC - 824 East Fairview Avenue:
10. Public Hearing: PFP 03-002 Request for Preliminary I Final Plat
approval of 3 building lots on 1.55 acres in an L-O zone for Gaudrv
Seeamiller Subdivision by Gordon N. Anderson - southeast corner of
East Gala Street and South Millennium:
11. AP 03-002 Appeal of Planning and Zoning Commission's Denial of
Preliminary Plat for Bloomina Meadows Estates Subdivision by The
Cutting Edge, LLC - 4379 North Locust Grove Road:
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12. Public Hearing: AZ 03-011 Request for annexation and zoning of 11.5
+/- acres from RUT to R-8 and R-15 zones for proposed Bloomino
Meadows Estates Subdivision by The Cutting Edge, LC - 4379 North
Locust Grove Road:
13. Public Hearing: CUP 03-022 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for a
Planned Development for townhouses and single-family homes in
proposed R-8 and R-15 zones for proposed Bloomina Meadows Estates
Subdivision by The Cutting Edge, LC - 4379 North Locust Grove Road:
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CITY OF MERIDIAN
CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
AGENDA
Tuesday, July 1, 2003 at 7:00 p.m.
City Council Chambers
1. Roll-call Attendance:
X Tammy de Weerd X
o Cherie McCandless X
X Mayor Robert Corrie
Bill Nary
Keith Bird
2. Adoption of the Agenda: Approve as Amended
3. Consent Agenda: Approve
A. Approve minutes of June 10, 2003 Pre-Council Meeting: Approve
B. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: CUP
03-015 Request for a Conditional Use Permit to add a heliport with
office and fueling - future landing pad and hanger on southeast
corner of property in an L-O zone for St. Luke's Meridian Medical
Center by S1. Luke's Regional Medical Center - east of South
Eagle Road and north of 1-84: Approve as Corrected
C. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: CUP
03-011 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for two 9,500 square
foot retail buildings with associated site improvements in an L-O
zone for Resolution Subdivision by G.L. Voigt Development -
1611 South Millennium Way and 2045 West Overland Road:
Approve
D. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: RZ 03-
006 Request for a Rezone of 3.41 acres from R-4 to R-8 zones
for Bear Creek No.6 by Westpark Company - west of South
Meridian Road and south of West Overland Road: Approve
E. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: PP 03-
005 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 31 building lots and 2
other lots on 10.49 acres in a proposed R-8 zone for Bear Creek
No.6 by Bear Creek, LLC - west of South Meridian Road and
south of West Overland Road: Approve
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F. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: VAR
03-015 Request for a Variance for block length in an R-4 and R-8
zone for Bear Creek No.6 by Bear Creek, LLC - west of South
Meridian Road and south of West Overland Road: Approve
G. Addendum to Department of Corrections Probation & Parole
Lease for space in Meridian Police Department at 1401 E.
Watertower Street: Apprve
H. Rejection of All Bids for Bear Creek Restroom Proiect:
Approve
I. Approve Bills: Approve
4. Department Reports: None
5. (Items Moved from Consent Agenda): None
6. FP 03-037 Request for Final Plat approval of 30 building lots and 4 other
lots on 7.36 acres in an R-8 zone for Baldwin Park No.5 by Capitol
Development - Northeast corner of North Linder Road and West Ustick
Road: Approve
7. Public Hearing: TCU 03-001 Request for a Transfer of Conditional Use
Permit for a Child Care Center in an R-8 zone for All About Kids by Zejna
Garibovic and Kathy Sokoli - 1155 East Chateau Drive: Attorney to
Prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for approval
8. Public Hearing: PP 03-009 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 12
building lots and 6 other lots on 10.92 acres in an R-4 zone for Bear
Creek No.7 by Bear Creek, LLC - north of West Victory Road and east of
South Stoddard Road: Attorney to Prepare Findings of Fact and
Conclusions of Law for approval
9. Public Hearing: PP 03-006 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 17
building lots and 2 other lots on 10.17 acres in C-N and R-40 zones for
Devon Park No.2 by Fairview Lakes, LLC - 824 East Fairview Avenue:
Attorney to Prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for
approval
10. Public Hearing: PFP 03-002 Request for Preliminary / Final Plat
approval of 3 building lots on 1.55 acres in an L-O zone for Gaudrv
Seeamiller Subdivision by Gordon N. Anderson - southeast corner of
East Gala Street and South Millennium: Continue Public Hearing to
July 22, 2003
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11. AP 03-002 Appeal of Planning and Zoning Commission's Denial of
Preliminary F'lat for Bloomina Meadows Estates Subdivision by The
Cutting Edge, LLC - 4379 North Locust Grove Road: Applicant Pulled
Application
12. Public Hearing: AZ 03-011 Request for annexation and zoning of 11.5
+/- acres from RUT to R-B and R-15 zones for proposed Bloomina
Meadows Estates Subdivision by The Cutting Edge, LC - 4379 North
Locust Grove Road: Applicant Pulled Application
13. Public Hearing: CUP 03-022 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for a
Planned Development for townhouses and single-family homes in
proposed R-B and R-15 zones for proposed Bloomina Meadows Estates
Subdivision by The Cutting Edge, LC - 4379 North Locust Grove Road:
Applicant Pulled Application
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