HomeMy WebLinkAbout2023-08-15 Regular Meridian City Council August 15, 2023.
A Meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 6:05 p.m. Tuesday,
August 15, 2023, by Mayor Robert Simison.
Members Present: Robert Simison, Brad Hoaglun, Joe Borton, Luke Cavener, Liz
Strader and John Overton.
Members Absent: Jessica Perreault.
Also present: Chris Johnson, Bill Nary, Jeff Brown, Joe Bongiorno, Jenny Fields,
Laurelei McVey and Dean Willis.
ROLL-CALL ATTENDANCE
Liz Strader _X_ Joe Borton
_X_ Brad Hoaglun _X_ John Overton
Jessica Perreault _X_Luke Cavener
X Mayor Robert E. Simison
Simison: All right. Call this meeting to order. For the record it is August 15th, 2023. It's
6:05 p.m. We will begin tonight's regular City Council meeting with roll call attendance.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Simison: Next item is the Pledge of Allegiance. If you would all, please, rise and join us
in the pledge.
(Pledge of Allegiance recited.)
COMMUNITY INVOCATION
Simison: Tonight's community invocation will be delivered by Pastor Troy Drake. If you
would all, please, join us in the community invocation or take this as a moment of
silence and reflection. Pastor.
Drake: Oh, Lord God in Heaven, thank you so much that we can live in this great
country of ours and this great state and this wonderful city. We appreciate what we
have and thank you for life and liberty and that we can pursue happiness here and -- but
I just want to pray for the city in the midst of extreme heat and so I just pray for our first
responders and -- and, you know, the things that happen as a result of -- or could
happen as a result of a -- of a high heat level and so we just pray, God, that there would
be peace here and -- and no devastation like you have seen in other places and protect
us from that, God, and also help the citizens here, maybe on those who are in a difficult
place where they are affected more by the heat and that they could find a place where
they can get some relief. So, our hearts go out to them. And, Lord, I also just lastly, but
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not least, pray for everyone in this building and the decisions that are made here, all
those who serve our citizens in various ways, whether they are elected or volunteer or,
you know, it's their daily job here, God, I just pray that they would just be given a lot of
wisdom and they would know the right decisions to make to -- to bless our -- our citizens
here in Meridian. So, thank you, God, that we have our government and we have our
Mayor and the -- and the Council and just pray that you give them a lot of wisdom here
tonight as they make decisions and it's in your name we pray, amen. Thank you.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
Simison: Thank you. Up next is the adoption of the agenda.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: There are no changes to our agenda this evening, so I move approval of the
agenda as published.
Cavener: Second.
Simison: Have a motion and a second to adopt the agenda as published. Is there any
discussion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay? The ayes have it
and the agenda is adopted.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
PUBLIC FORUM — Future Meeting Topics
Simison: Mr. Clerk, was there anyone signed up under public forum?
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, yes, we have one. Christopher Paul.
Simison: Good evening. You will be recognized for three minutes.
Paul: Good evening. My name is Christopher Paul and I stand here today -- I just had
a few questions on the Compass Pointe Subdivision, which the time has passed to
discuss this. Last year it was proposed to put over 50 high density units with minimal
parking on a 7.6 acre lot with a creek running through it, reducing buildable acreage.
don't know if you guys remember, this was by Locust Grove and Victory. This room was
completely filled up and you guys ultimately rejected it. Fast forward a year. Locust
Grove and Victory were shut down for the construction of a roundabout and during that
time there was a sign put up saying that there was another meeting during this -- for --
to discuss -- to readdress this, which was taken on June 27th. Unfortunately, the
roundabout was still closed at that time and no one knew about it. We -- because we
couldn't see the sign. The road was closed. So, I'm just asking -- I know that the plan
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has been reduced to 21 homes versus the 57. It's now medium density residential. We
-- there is still concerns within the community and I'm just asking what is the next steps,
if there is any steps that we could take, just because I feel like the community didn't
have a chance to discuss it, just because we flat out didn't know about it. Normal --
that's -- everyone found out about it by driving by and they saw the sign that says, hey,
there is a meeting on this land coming soon, but the land -- the road was closed.
Simison: This is -- okay. And typically this is not a back and forth, but I'm going to turn
to the legal counsel and see how much we can do now versus if we need to set this for
a separate conversation in that regards. So, Mr. Nary.
Nary: So, Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, Mr. Paul. So, unfortunately, our
requirements are -- we have three. We have a -- a public hearing. We have three. We
have published them. We have sent out mailed notices to anyone within 300 feet and
we also put up a sign. So, there is three ways that we try to provide notice to the public.
All of that was done. It is required that it be adjacent to a roadway. We don't know if the
road is going to be closed or not and that's the only roadway that touches that property.
That's their requirement to put it there, whether or not that you could drive down it or
not. So, there is no way for us to control that. The time period to reconsider it has
passed. The time period to appeal it has passed. There isn't anything at this point that
can be done differently.
Paul: I -- okay. That -- that's fair. I just wanted to mention my frustration. I -- again, the
community doesn't go on the Meridian website every week looking to see what's being
talked about. We drive down the road, we see it -- I understand it. I'm just voicing my
frustration. I feel like this entire room was filled up last time and there were a lot of
people against it and I almost -- I'm just questioning if that -- if the road wasn't closed
and we knew about it would we still have filled up that room and that -- and I get it. It's
-- the time's passed, but I'm just voicing my frustration here, because I feel like we didn't
-- we were not properly represented.
Hoaglun: And Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Well, if I could just respond to that to -- I -- I understand and appreciate that
and I think that's something that we may want to consider is to -- to your point -- I mean
I live in that area. I drive that. You couldn't even access the property if you wanted to in
that regard. So, that may be something we want to consider in the future. It may not
help us go back --
Paul: Yeah.
Simison: -- in that regards, but it's definitely I think a valid issue. If you can't access
something via the road what's the point of that third thing, so -- and I think that that
becomes a question if we are good with -- sorry. We are -- I'm going down -- I have
gone too far, but are we good with two out of three in any situation or does it need to be
all three that need to be practical in that regard?
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Hoaglun: Question for Mr. Nary. I believe this was a new application and the developer
was required to hold public meetings within the -- near the subdivision. Is that correct?
Nary: Yes. I think they held two.
Hoaglun: Yes. Because I had one couple that I happened to work with who lives in that
subdivision were aware of it and said, hey, that's so great, 21 versus the 57 is
wonderful. That -- we can live with that. So, obviously, they were aware that that was
going on, so --
Paul: That's the Tuscany Subdivision or --
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor. It's the one right behind the -- the creek there, so -- yeah. They
were -- they were aware, so --
Paul: We were Tuscany. We were -- we were not informed.
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Seal: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: I wanted to recognize we are -- we are limited about what we can and can't
talk about. I think what you are hearing is at least there is some sympathetic feedback
to what you brought to our attention, so maybe, Mr. Mayor, Mr. Hoaglun, Mr. Nary, city
attorney, you are setting a future agenda -- at least a discussion about occurring. Is that
appropriate? Is that what we think is a best practice for our city? I -- I hate to put -- also
put our clerk on the spot. We -- we have a practice -- we are not obligated by law to
also post notifications on NextDoor. I don't know if that's something that we did as well,
so -- and the only reason why -- and he is saying that we did, the only reason why I
bring that up is that I think at least the city -- this Mayor and Council have been very
intentional about not just meeting what is required by the law, but to try and -- and
minimize the circumstance of what you are feeling like, hey, I didn't feel like that I was
properly informed and I think it's our goal is that we try to go over and above what is
required, so that our citizens who want to take action and want to be involved have that
opportunity to do that and so I appreciate you flagging this. I live in that area as well
and I mean the Council -- I think we unanimously approved the application. I was --
appreciated the stark change from what was initially proposed to what is, but that's
neither here nor there. Your issue is about not -- how you as a citizen were properly
noticed and so I think that's a good conversation for us at a future time and I appreciate
you coming and flagging that for us.
Paul: Okay. Thank you. If there is any other changes -- if they ever modify that plan is
that notified on the website or -- I just have to keep an eye out for future postings? I
don't know if they modify those applications once they are approved like --
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Nary: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, Mr. Paul. So, depending on what you mean
by modification. So, for example, if they were to lower the amount of them -- so, they --
instead of doing 21 units they were doing less than 21 . That's a slight modification.
Depending on how drastic. Increasing it, yes, they would have to come back to the
Council with a change to the development plan. That would be noticed, just like -- like
the past with signs, mailed notice, online notice, NextDoor if we have -- if we do that.
So, it -- it would come back to the attention of --
Paul: I appreciate it.
Simison: Thank you. Appreciate it. And, Council, appreciate the -- I know we probably
overstepped where we would like to go typically in those public comments in that
regard, so -- yeah. Okay. Anything else under future meeting topics?
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, that was everything.
ACTION ITEMS
1. Public Hearing for City of Meridian Fiscal Year 2024 Proposed Budget
Simison: Okay. Then with that we will move on to our Action Items this evening. Our
first item up is a public hearing for City of Meridian fiscal year 2024 proposed budget.
Open this public hearing with staff comments from Jenny.
Fields: Chris is pulling up a PowerPoint. Okay. Good evening, Mr. Mayor, Members of
the Council. I'm going to give an overview of our budget process, then, provide a
summary of our fiscal year '24 proposed budget and the three major reporting funds,
Governmental Fund, Capital Improvement Fund and Enterprise Fund. Then we will
stand for any public comments or questions and, then, seek a motion to approve our
fiscal year '24 proposed budget. I'm going to give a high level overview of the work
that's been done thus far to get us to where we are at. A lot of work goes into
developing our proposed budget. It is an eight month long process that we started back
in February. In March Finance met with each department, Mayor and Council Liaison,
to fine tune the base budget line items. In April and May Mayor and director work
together to prioritize budget requests, balancing our revenue projections with
expenditure needs. In June the proposed budget is submitted to Council for review.
We held two budget workshops in July -- or in June. During these sessions department
directors presented their budget requests and address any questions and concerns.
Some adjustments and refinements were made to the proposed budget at that time and
Council in July tentatively approved our fiscal year '24 budget. We, then, published the
budget notice online and in the newspaper in July -- mid July to citizens to provide
feedback. That gets us to where we are at today. So, upon closure of tonight's public
hearing Council will hopefully take action to approve our fiscal year '24 budget. It is in --
we come back once more with the ordinance and that's how we appropriate our budget.
Mayor and departments will, then, start executing on the approved fiscal year '24 budget
starting October 1. Okay. Let's talk numbers. Our fiscal year '24 proposed budget is
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233.6 million dollars. The graph to the left are expenditure categories. As you can see
personnel is about 35 percent of our total budget and it is the largest expense category.
Next we have carry forward that makes up 29 percent of the total budget. Carry
forwards are -- these projects that were not finished in our current fiscal year, fiscal year
'23, that will be carried over into fiscal year '24. The distribution of the budget amongst
the different departments are displayed in the graph to the right. Next I'm going to go --
actually go into our three major reporting funds. Governmental Fund. This is inclusive
of our -- we call our General Fund, Impact Fund, and Public Safety Fund. So, the total
revenue projected for the Governmental Funds is 100.8 million dollars. The largest
revenue source is tax revenue at 47 percent. Next is intergovernmental at 20 percent.
Intergovernmental revenues includes state revenue sharing and state -- state liquor
revenue. I'm going to give a high level overview of our total expenditures in the
Governmental Fund. One hundred eight point nine million dollars. Personnel, again,
makes up 62 percent and is the largest expenditure of Governmental Fund. Public
Safety makes up the majority of this budget. As you can see on the graph to the right
police is 34 percent, fire is 27, followed by parks, admin, and community development.
Our next major reporting fund is our Capital Improvement Fund. Total expenditures in
this fund is 8.1 million. As you can see a hundred percent of the expenditures are carry
forward and projects include just -- projects include fire stations seven and eight and
police precinct. Okay. Our last reporting fund is the Enterprise Fund. Total revenue
projected for Enterprise Fund is 52.9 million dollars. A majority of the revenue is utility
sales and assessment revenue. Enterprise Fund expenditures is 116.6 million dollars.
As you can see between new capital funding and carry forward projects 73 percent of
Enterprise Fund budget is in capital expenditures. Again, the distribution amongst the
different departments is as displayed in your graph on the right. Okay. That's short and
sweet. This is going to conclude an overview of our fiscal year '24 proposed budget.
Before I hand this over to you, Mayor and Council, for any questions and comments,
we are seeking for an approval from Council to approve our fiscal year '24 budget and
the next steps is we will come back with an ordinance the next couple of weeks to make
it official.
Simison: Thank you, Jenny. Council, any questions for staff? Okay. Thank you very
much. This is a public hearing. Mr. Clerk, do we have anyone signed up to provide
testimony on this item?
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, we have one. Terre Dennington.
Simison: Good evening. Just state your name and address for the record.
Dennington: Yes. My name is Terre Dennington. I live at 4581 West Big Creek Street
in Meridian. 83642. Thank you, Mayor Simison and Council, for letting me speak this
evening. My main thing is I just really would like to thank the budget director Jenny
Fields. I have gone through the budget and she was very gracious to sit down and
answer any questions I had and I also get a lot of responses from you, Mayor, and from
other staff people -- did I go silent?
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Simison: No. We are good.
Dennington: Sorry. Okay. Other staff people that answer just questions. Steve
Siddoway for the Parks and Rec. Just lots of different people that always answer my
questions and try to give me good feedback on what -- what I'm doing and what I'm
looking at. I also want to thank the city for having -- like the Go With The Flow tour and
the public safety academy. I attended both of those. Those are very good for helping
me understand the budget, even to go through that to really see what's going on in the
process and so I really appreciate the fact that you guys let the public have that access
and it's really wonderful. I wish more people would do it, because it really is interesting
and really teaches people a lot what the city does. The last thing -- the only last thing I
had was I had one question, just because I was driving by and I was just thinking about
it. That I saw a cell tower on the wastewater property and I wondered if we derive
income from cell towers that are placed on city property and that was really my only
question and just to thank you for the process and letting me have access to everything
that's there.
Simison: Thank you, Terre. Laurelei, would you like to reply to that question, just since
it's --
McVey: Thank you. So, that cell tower is actually just right across the canal. So, it's
not actually on our property. So, to answer that question we would not receive any
revenue for that.
Simison: Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Terre, for your comments. Council, did you
have any questions for Terre before she went and sat down?
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: Not a question, just a comment, Ms. Dennington. Thank you for being with us
again to provide your feedback on the budget. I really appreciate that you take it
seriously and go through it. We pride ourselves on having engaged citizens that do just
that with us and it's very much appreciated.
Simison: Is there anybody else who would like to provide testimony on this item at this
time? Seeing none, does Finance have any final comments? You don't need to, unless
you want to. Okay. All right. Then, Council, what's your pleasure?
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: I move that we close the public hearing for the City of Meridian fiscal year
2024 proposed budget.
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Cavener: Second.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to close the public hearing. Is there
discussion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay? The ayes have it
and the public hearing is closed.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: I move that we approve the City of Meridian fiscal year 2024 proposed budget
in the amount of 233,617,299 dollars.
Cavener: Second.
Simison: Have a motion and a second to approve the budget for FY-2004 in the
amount of 233,617,299. Is there discussion on the motion?
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: Real quick. Jenny, you compressed a lot of time and energy and effort into a
very short presentation. So, thank you to you, our staff -- not just in our Finance
Department, but citywide, Mayor, Council Liaisons in bringing this all together. It's not --
I guess every year I struggle with our -- with our budget and every year I am looking at it
from a different angle and I appreciate the feedback from our Mayor and my fellow
Council Members and our staff and Terre touched on something about being engaged
and involved and wishing more people were involved in. This is like the one City
Council meeting that I want -- like I want every seat full and I want to hear from our
community and we don't get that and I don't think that's because they don't know or they
don't care, it's they really think that they trust our employees and we as Council to make
the best decision. So, this is the first budget for me in a long time that I really think is
incredibly well thought out, addresses the needs of our -- of our community. I always
struggle with the property tax increase, but when you look at every conversation we
have is we are dealing with the impacts of inflation, the cost of goods and delivering
services and certainly that's contemplated and, Mr. Mayor, you could have easily
brought a budget with a full three percent ask and you didn't do that and I commend you
for doing that this year and look forward maybe in future years to come that same
philosophy being brought back to Council. But I just -- I also want to just reiterate this
budget has an appropriate investment for an important resource and that's our
employees and I appreciate you, Mayor, being a vocal advocate for our employees and
bringing a budget that reinforces the value that they bring to us as well. So, happy to
make the second and I'm very very supportive of this budget this year.
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Simison: I am speechless. I'm sure Todd and I had a bet at one point in time, so I think
I won. Or I'm going to choose the win one way or the other on that or I will collect at a
future date. But is there further discussion from Council on the motion? All right. Then
Clerk will call the roll.
Roll Call: Hoaglun, yea; Borton, yea; Cavener, yea; Perreault, absent; Strader, yea;
Overton, yea.
Simison: All ayes. Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
2. Public Hearing to Reserve All Foregone Revenue Associated with
Fiscal Year 2024 Budget
Simison: And appreciate all the work on that portion of the fiscal year 2004 budget.
Congratulations to all the directors and staff who worked on that, so -- with that we are
not done with the '24 budget, so I don't know if we are going to get them on this one, but
we will go to the public hearing to -- open the public hearing to reserve all foregone
revenue associated with fiscal year 2024 budget and we will turn this back over to Ms.
Fields.
Fields: I want to echo the thank yous and I want to thank -- this is entirely a team effort.
Team -- teamwork makes it all possible. So, big thank you to Mayor, Council, and our
dedicated staff. I also want to give a special shout out to Brad Purser, our former
budget manager. I am sure he is tuning in all the way from Arkansas.
Seal: That's a bet I would take that I think I would win.
Fields: Okay. So, our next item is we are seeking a motion to reserve all of our
foregone revenue associated with our fiscal year '24 budget. This amount is a little
higher than what was presented in July. The increase was about 228,000 dollars. We
will received the final data from Ada county August 1 and this is the most up-to-date
calculation. So, I turn that back over to you for any questions, comments.
Simison: Council, any questions for staff on this item? Okay. Thank you. Mr. Clerk, do
we have anyone signed up to provide testimony on this item?
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, we did not.
Simison: Okay. Is there anybody present or online who would like to provide testimony
on this item? Seeing no one coming forward I think staff is good with no additional
comments. Then do I have a motion?
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
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Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: I move that we close the public hearing on the foregone revenue associated
with the fiscal year 2024.
Overton: Second.
Simison: Have a motion and a second to close the public hearing. Is there any
discussion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay?
Strader: Nay.
Simison: Would you -- the ayes have it. Would you like to have the public hearing
reopened?
Strader: No, Mr. Mayor.
Simison: Okay. Then the public hearing is closed.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE NAY. ONE ABSENT.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun. I may have discussion after this motion, which is just
fine, but I move that we approve to reserve all foregone revenue associated with fiscal
year 2024 in the amount of 863,332 dollars.
Overton: Second.
Simison: Have a motion and a second to reserve all foregone revenue associated with
the FY-24 budget in the amount of 863,332 dollars. Is there discussion?
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: Yeah. I apologize. I -- I misheard the closing of the public hearing as a
motion. I previously made extensive comments about my rationale for voting no on this
and will not be voting for it tonight.
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: No need to belabor on this. We talked about this a few weeks ago. I just
think it's also, again, a testament to past councils and our Finance staff of working hard
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to develop strong budgets that we are fortunate to have this opportunity to have the
discussion about if we should or if we shouldn't. There are other cities across the state
that just automatically take the three percent, don't have the discussion about foregone
and continue to grow government and so I at least appreciate we have the opportunity
to have this conversation. Much like I felt a few weeks ago, I don't think that this
revenue is needed at this time. We have substantial reserves. Good trust from our
taxpayers and I don't think that it's needed for us to preserve this money at this time.
Simison: Thank you. Council, any further discussion?
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: Yeah. I appreciate the comments and approach to the -- to that and it's just
one of those things that people can look at it and have a difference there and how we --
how we handle that and -- and I view it as not something that we will take in the future,
but it's there just in case we need it. We just don't know what the future holds. It's one
of those situations where we try to budget and do the best job as possible and keep it --
put taxes as low as possible, but if there is a change that we do have that option and it
just reserves that -- that ability to do so, if it's needed. Kind of like an insurance policy.
Simison: Thank you. Any other comments? I guess not. Clerk will call the roll.
Roll Call: Hoaglun, yea; Borton, yea; Cavener, nay; Perreault, yea; Strader, nay;
Overton, yea.
Simison: Three ayes. Two nays. And the item is agreed to.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. TWO NAYS. ONE ABSENT.
3. Public Hearing for City of Meridian Fiscal Year 2023 Amended Budget
Simison: Next item up is Item 3, a public hearing for City of Meridian fiscal year 2023
amended budget. We will open this public hearing with comments from Jenny.
Fields: It's been a while. Okay. Our agenda tonight for our public hearing for fiscal
year '23 amended budget is -- I'm going to go over the three major reporting funds again
and, then, stand for any questions. I will go through the changes of the upcoming
slides. Just know that these are amendments that have been presented to you by
departments in the past ten months. So, this is more of a formal process that we notify
our citizens in state of our final fiscal year '23 budget numbers. So, this will be a year in
review. Our final amended budget for fiscal year '23 is 217.4 million dollars. This is
down 1 .06 percent from the original budget that was announced around this time last
year. There were a total of 20 budget amendments that were approved and we -- our
final budget amount is again down 1 .06 or about 2.3 million dollars. I'm going to go over
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each of the major reporting funds. In our Governmental Fund -- Governmental Funds
actually went up 4.16 or 4.9 million dollars. Personnel and operating went up 19
percent. Capital went up 16.6. While carry forwards went down 24.7 percent. Here are
some details and highlights that went on in our Governmental Fund. There were a total
of 18 amendments that were approved. The top amendments include a few of our
grants, like ARPA, CDBG and some ITD grants, totaling about 14.4 million dollars. Our
other big ticketed budget amendments for citywide phone system replacements, police
Motorola radio conversion and the adjustment of our carry forward. We adjusted our
carry forward down 9.9 million dollars. And some of the carry forward adjustments
include our Fire Station 7, Discovery Park, Lakeview Golf Course improvements. These
are projects that were finished and we no longer needed the budget to be carried. Our
Capital Improvement Fund had zero budget amendments. These are all carry forward
adjustments related to fire station. Enterprise Fund is the last major reporting fund. The
final amended budget is down 6.89 percent, which is 5.98 million dollars from the
original budget. Enterprise Fund had two total budget amendments that were approved.
Water and wastewater chemicals, SCADA system security upgrades and, then, we also
had a 6.8 million dollar carry forward adjustment in this fund as well. So, that concludes
the overview of our fiscal year '23 amended budget.
Simison: Thank you, Jenny. Council, any questions for staff? Okay. Thank you. Mr.
Clerk, is there anyone signed up on this item?
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, there were no sign-ups.
Simison: Okay. Is there anybody present who would like to provide testimony on the
FY-23 budget? Seeing none, do I have a motion to close the public hearing?
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: I move that we close the public hearing for City of Meridian fiscal year 2023
amended budget.
Cavener: Second.
Simison: Have a motion and a second. Is there any discussion? If not, all in favor
signify by saying aye. Opposed nay? The ayes have it and the public hearing is
closed.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
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Hoaglun: I move that we approve the City of Meridian fiscal year 2023 amended --
amended budget in the amount of 217,401,857 dollars.
Cavener: Second.
Simison: Have a motion and a second to approve the FY-23 amended budget in the
amount of 217,401,857 dollars. Is there any discussion?
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: Just a comment to echo the thanks to all the teams in the city who helped with
the different budgets and finalizing this year's budget, especially the Finance team, but
wanted to specifically give a shout out to Jenny, because I think you stepped up in a big
way and leading us through the process this year and that you did a great job. Thank
you.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: To echo those comments, very appropriate and thank you, Jenny, but also to
the whole team. I mean when you look at last year's budget and it's not exact science
and you are within 1.06 percent of what we put -- put together with all the departments
and the directors and the whole team and that's a pretty -- pretty amazing. That's quite -
- quite the effort. So, kudos to everyone.
Simison: Appreciate that. I know everyone will appreciate those comments from
everybody. So, with that, unless there is further comments, ask the Clerk to call the roll
Roll Call- Hoaglun, yea; Borton, yea; Cavener, yea; Perreault, absent; Strader, yea;
Overton, yea.
Simison: All ayes. Motion carries and the item is agreed to.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
4. Public Hearing for Proposed Water and Sewer Fee Increases
Simison: Jenny, you are excused from the public hearings for the rest of the night. But
with that we will move on to our next public hearing, proposed water and sewer fee
increases, and I will turn this over to Director Laurelei McVey.
McVey: All right. Thanks, Mayor and Council. We were before you a few weeks ago
and gave you the presentation. So, in short we are asking for a three percent increase
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to both the water base and -- or water-sewer base and use. Just a reminder this is
about -- the average impact to a citizen is about $1.91 per month. We did notice this in
the newspaper for two weeks and we also put it in the bill tagline that went out on
everybody's utility bill and received no input at the department level. So, with that no
further information or presentation this evening.
Simison: Thank you. Council, do you have questions for staff? Okay. Thank you very
much. This is a public hearing. Do we have anyone signed up on this item, Mr. Clerk?
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, we did not.
Simison: Okay. Is there anybody present who would like to provide testimony on this
item? Seeing no one coming forward do I have a motion?
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: I yield to Council Member Strader.
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: I move that we close the public hearing.
Cavener: Second.
Simison: Have a motion and a second to close the public hearing. Is there any
discussion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay? The ayes have it
and the public hearing is closed.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
5. Resolution 23-2403: A Resolution Adopting New Fees of the Meridian
Public Works Department; Authorizing the Meridian Public Works
Department to Collect Such Fees, and Providing an Effective Date
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
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Strader: I move that we approve Resolution 23-2403 adopting new fees for the
Meridian Public Works Department, authorizing them to collect the fees and providing
an effective date.
Cavener: Second.
Simison: I have a motion and a second. Do I have discussion on the motion?
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: Just to reiterate that, you know, in the inflationary environment that we are in
and with the cost of everything going up, chemicals, equipment, labor, I think that the
Public Works Department's doing a really good job trying to limit these fee increases as
much as possible and I'm appreciative of that and I know that we all are.
Simison: All right. With that Clerk will call the roll.
Roll Call: Hoaglun, yea; Borton, yea; Cavener, yea; Perreault, absent; Strader, yea;
Overton, yea.
Simison: All ayes. Motion carries and the item is agreed to. Thank you very much.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
6. Public Hearing for Proposed Updates to Mayor and City Council
Compensation
Simison: Next item up is Item 6, a public hearing for proposed updates to Mayor and
City Council compensation. Mr. Nary, do you have anything more you would like to
add?
Nary: No, Mr. Mayor. This is our third reading of the ordinance and so -- we have not
received any public comments since last week.
Simison: Okay. Is there anybody in the -- the public hearing is open. Is there anybody
who would like to provide public testimony on this item? Seeing no one coming forward,
do I have a motion to close the public hearing?
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: Move we close the public hearing on proposed updates to Mayor and City
Council compensation.
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Strader: Second.
Simison: Have a motion and a second to close the public hearing. Is there any
discussion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay? The ayes have it
and the public hearing is closed.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
ORDINANCES [Action Item]
7. Third Reading of Ordinance 23-2024: An Ordinance Amending Title 1,
Chapter 7, Section 9 of the Meridian City Code, Regarding City
Councilmembers' Compensation; Providing a Savings Clause; and
Providing an Effective Date
Simison: So, with that we will move on to our ordinances this evening. First item up is
Item 7. Ask the clerk to read this ordinance by title.
Johnson: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This is Ordinance 23-2024 an ordinance amending
Title 1, Chapter 7, Section 9 of the Meridian City Code, regarding city councilmembers'
compensation; providing a savings clause; and providing an effective date.
Simison: Thank you. Council, you have heard this ordinance read by title. Is there
anybody that would like it read in its entirety? If not do I have a motion?
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: I guess we are all like looking at each other here and no one wants to be the
one to make the motion. Refresh my memory, please, someone as to the final date that
we need to adopt the ordinance. Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: We have had a lot of input I think from our committee that reviews this. It's
unfortunate that we don't have more public comment. I think in part it is a positive sign
about the compensation proposals. I think at the end of the day for me, having
reviewed it, I think it's important for us to keep it competitive no matter who is in the
seat, especially with inflation and that's -- that's kind of how I reviewed this was in major
part keeping up with inflation. I would be curious if other Council Members have
different feedback.
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
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Cavener: I -- I appreciate Council Member Strader's comments. I think this is always a
unique conversation that we --
Simison: Just from a process standpoint do we need to make a motion or are we okay
to just talk before we do -- I just want to -- we haven't never really done this on an
ordinance.
Nary: You can do it either way.
Simison: Okay. That's fine. Mr. Cavener.
Cavener: I was happy to make a motion as well if that would help move things along.
Council Member Strader is spot on, you know, that we -- we rely a whole lot on a
recommendation of a committee who tries to look at this objectively and certainly I
believe whatever action we take tonight will be reported in newspapers and blogs and
online and, then, people will, of course, have comments and feedback and we wished
that they would find a way to channel that and harness it and get it to us before the
decision point tonight. Every two years that we have this before us I struggle with -- is --
my role on the City Council is it a job or is it public service? It's really both. And so that
is for me where I'm always at -- at a conflict point is that I don't want serving on the city
council to be a career. I want it to be something that we do because we all care about
Meridian. If you have ever been on a council -- I have probably said this every two
years. The -- the mom that volunteers as a PAL soccer coach serves her community
and doesn't get paid. The gentlemen who volunteers at the Meridian Food Bank doesn't
get paid. The tutor at the Boys and Girls Club doesn't get paid. They do it because
they care about Meridian and they care about keeping this a great community and so
we all do that whether we be paid or not and I -- I want to commend Council Member
Borton for his recommendation of maybe having the committee look at after three terms
of service compensation goes away. I love that idea. Because I -- I believe that this is
more service than a job, I'm reluctant to agree with the recommendation from the
committee this year. I think that our compensation is appropriate. It's fair. We are also
as members of City Council are afforded an amazing benefit that our city employees get
in health insurance and vision insurance and dental insurance and my preference has
always been that we keep compensation low to encourage people for stepping up who
want to serve. So, I'm not in favor of the recommendation of the -- of the committee
tonight.
Overton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Overton.
Overton: Without copying a lot of what Councilman Cavener just said, kind of the new
kid on the block and first year and I have -- I came to this strictly for that public service
aspect. In fact, I remember telling the Finance director -- he has left the room now, but
it was probably almost 30 days before I actually found out what this job actually paid
and I had to sit down with HR, because that had nothing to do with becoming a member
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of the City Council to me. It was everything about serving this community and taking
the passion that I had for all those years and now bringing it back and bringing it forth
with the city. Since I have sat here this year I have watched us do a compensation
package for general employees. I have watched us look at the PAM model and bring
six more officers forward for police and watching us work on a compensation package
for our Fire Department and I just don't think that we need to be addressing our pay
increase right now as city council members. I would also not be in favor of it at this
time.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: Yeah. These are -- I think the two gentlemen who just spoke, you know, I
think summed it up well. We don't do it for the money. At the same time how do we
make sure -- as I have commented before it's kind of like spousal compensation for the
time that we are away and missing things and trying to plan and celebrate birthdays on
not their birthday, because it's Council night, so you are doing that. So, I think, Mr.
Mayor, I -- I would move that we not approve Ordinance No. 23-2024 regarding City
Council compensation as recommended by the committee.
Cavener: Second.
Borton: Second.
Simison: Have a motion and a second. Is there further discussion? If not, Clerk will
call the roll.
Roll Call: Hoaglun, yea; Borton, yea; Cavener, yea; Perreault, absent; Strader, nay;
Overton, yea.
Simison: Four ayes. One no. Motion to not approve passes.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE NAY. ONE ABSENT.
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Mr. Nary.
Nary: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, what I will do, because the statute requires if
you are going to increase it today was the last day. But I will have to bring you back an
ordinance to maintain it, because it's spelled out by years in the ordinance. So, you will
see -- probably not next week, probably at the next meeting, the first meeting in
September, an ordinance just establishing the same rates of pay for the next two years.
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8. Third Reading of Ordinance No. 23-2026: An Ordinance Amending
Title 1, Chapter 6, Section 5 of the Meridian City Code Regarding
Mayor's Compensation; Providing a Savings Clause; and Providing
an Effective Date
Simison: Next item up is Item 8, which is the third reading of Ordinance No. 23-2026.
Ask the Clerk to read this ordinance by title.
Johnson: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This is an ordinance amending Title 1 , Chapter 6,
Section 5 of the Meridian City Code regarding Mayor's compensation, providing a
savings clause and providing an effective date.
Simison: Okay. Council, you have heard this ordinance read by title. Is there anybody
that would like it read in its entirety? Seeing none, what's your pleasure?
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: Well, if we don't make a motion now maybe a quick conversation after. Is that
appropriate? Mr. Mayor, I move we approve Ordinance No. 23-2026, an ordinance
amending Title 1, Chapter 6, Section 5, of the Meridian City Code regarding the Mayor's
compensation, finding a savings clause and providing an effective date.
Overton: Second.
Simison: Have a motion and a second. Is there discussion?
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: I look at this one a little bit different. Certainly we would expect that any
person who wants the job of Mayor would care about our community and will also have
a heart for service, but the work of -- of leading the second largest city in the state is
more than a full time job with competing demands and so this is the case that I am in full
support of the recommendation of the committee and I think it's appropriate given
increasing duties are Mayor is responsible for in an ever growing city.
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: Yeah. Just a comment here and I view the items similarly. I think it's important
for our city to attract the best talent and I think part of doing that is casting a wide net
and making it accessible for everybody. So, I view that as important for members of the
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City Council. I want to make it so that any citizen has the ability to serve on our Council.
Maybe they have to give up, you know, a second job to do that. So, I'm trying to think
about, you know, getting the best people in the seat. That includes the Mayor's role as
well. And so I think it's appropriate to make sure that we are keeping up, especially
because no increase would actually result in a decrease in real wages in this inflationary
environment.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: Yeah. I agree with -- with the motion. This is a full-time job. It is something
that if you want good people who are working full time and they are in a director role or
the VP of a company or another organization to leave a job that pays much less than it
does in the private sector is -- is a big ask and trying to -- this is definitely not what it
would be if you are doing the same thing in the private sector in this position, but at the
same time I think this increase does help and gives people an opportunity to look at and
decide whether or not they want to run if that's their desire to serve as mayor or our
community. So, appreciate the thought process on that and seeing that it is an
important role. They manage the day to day affairs and oversee the staff. So, I'm
certainly in favor of -- of this ordinance and increasing the compensation for that office
in the -- in the coming year. Two years.
Simison: Might even be enough for Ralph to consider running. There you go. Any
further comments? All right. Ask the Clerk to call the roll.
Roll Call: Hoaglun, yea; Borton, yea; Cavener, yea; Perreault, absent; Strader, yea;
Overton, yea.
Simison: All ayes. Motion carries and the item is agreed to.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
9. Ordinance 23-2028: An ordinance (Artisan Victory Market — H-2022-
0066) annexing the southwest quarter of the southwest quarter of
Section 21, Township 3 North, Range 1 East, Boise Meridian, Ada
County, Idaho, more particularly described in Exhibit "A"; rezoning
14.473 acres of such real property from RUT (Rural Urban Transition)
to R-15 (Medium High-Density Residential) zoning district; directing
city staff to alter all applicable use and area maps as well as the
official zoning maps and all official maps depicting the boundaries
and the zoning districts of the City of Meridian in accordance with
this ordinance; providing that copies of this ordinance shall be filed
with the Ada County Assessor, the Ada County Treasurer, the Ada
County Recorder, and the Idaho State Tax Commission, as required
by law; repealing conflicting ordinances; and providing an effective
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date
Simison: Next item is No. 9, Ordinance No. 23-2028. Ask the Clerk to read this
Ordinance by title.
Johnson: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. It's an ordinance related to Artisan Victory Market, H-
2022-0066, annexing the southwest quarter of the southwest quarter of Section 21,
Township 3 North, Range 1 East, Boise meridian, Ada county, Idaho, more particularly
described in Exhibit "A"; rezoning 14.473 acres of such real property from RUT to R-15
zoning district; directing city staff to alter all applicable use and area maps, as well as
the official zoning maps and all official maps depicting the boundaries and the zoning
districts of the City of Meridian in accordance with this ordinance; providing that copies
of this ordinance shall be filed with the Ada County Assessor, the Ada County Treasurer,
the Ada County Recorder, and the Idaho State Tax Commission, as required by law;
repealing conflicting ordinances; and providing an effective date.
Simison: Thank you. Council, you have heard this ordinance read by title. Is there
anybody that would like to read in its entirety? If not, do I have a motion?
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: Move we approve ordinance 23-2028 as presented.
Borton: Second.
Simison: Have a motion and a second to approve Ordinance No. 23. Is there any
discussion? If not, Clerk will call the roll.
Roll Call: Hoaglun, yea; Borton, yea; Cavener, yea; Perreault, absent; Strader, yea;
Overton, yea.
Simison: All ayes. Motion carries and the item is agreed to.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Simison: Council, anything else under in the future meeting topics than what we have
already discussed? Or do I have a motion?
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: Move that we go into Executive Session per Idaho Code 74-206A(1)(a).
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Cavener: Second.
Simison: Have a motion and a second to go in to Executive Session. Is there any
discussion? If not, Clerk will call the roll.
Roll Call: Hoaglun, yea; Borton, yea; Cavener, yea; Perreault, absent; Strader, yea;
Overton, yea.
Simison: All ayes. Motion carries and we will go into Executive Session.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
EXECUTIVE SESSION: (6:59 p.m. to 7:35 p.m.)
(Hoaglun motion/Strader second to come out of Executive Session.)
(Hoaglun motion to adjourn)
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 7:35 P.M.
(AUDIO RECORDING ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS)
MAYOR ROBERT E. SIMISON 9-5-2023
ATTEST:
CHRIS JOHNSON - CITY CLERK