HomeMy WebLinkAbout2023-04-18 Work Session Minutes Meridian City Council Work Session April 18, 2023.
A Meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 4.30 p.m. Tuesday, April
18, 2023, by Mayor Robert Simison.
Members Present: Robert Simison, Joe Borton, Brad Hoaglun, Luke Cavener, Jessica
Perreault and John Overton.
Members Absent: Liz Strader.
Also present: Chris Johnson, Joy Hall, Bill Nary, Steve Siddoway, Mark Ford, Joe
Bongiorno and Dean Willis.
ROLL-CALL ATTENDANCE
Liz Strader _X Joe Borton
_X_ Brad Hoaglun _X_ John Overton
_X_ Jessica Perreault _X—Luke Cavener (5:03 p.m.)
X Mayor Robert E. Simison
Simison: Council, we will call the meeting to order. For the record it is April 18th, 2023,
at 4.32 p.m. We will begin this afternoon's work session with roll call attendance.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
Simison: First item up is the adoption of the agenda.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: No changes to our agenda that was published, so I move adoption of the
agenda as published.
Borton: Second.
Simison: Motion and second to adoption as published. Is there any discussion? If not,
all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay? The ayes have it and the agenda is
adopted.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. TWO ABSENT.
CONSENT AGENDA [Action Item]
1. Approve the Minutes of the April 4, 2023 City Council Work Session
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2. Approve the Minutes of the April 4, 2023 City Council Regular
Meeting
3. Les Schwab Tire Center (LDIR-2022-0063) Water Main Easement No.
1
4. Revised Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law for Millwood
Subdivision (H-2022-0089) by Epic Development, located at 1975 E.
Victory Rd.
5. Development Agreement (Pinedale Subdivision H-2022-0001)
Between City of Meridian and Piedmont Project LLC for Property
Located at 3275 W. Pine Ave.
6. First Amendment to Memorandum of Agreement between the City of
Meridian, Meridian Development Corporation, and Meridian Caddis,
LLC for the Civic Block Urban Renewal Project
7. Professional Service Agreement with the Huckleberry Star Theater
for Cast Fees and Three Promotional Performances of Joseph and
the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat for the Amount of $3,500
8. Professional Service Agreement with the Treasure Valley Children's
Theater for Subsidized Youth Registration Fees and Production and
Operational Costs of The Grunch Performance for the Amount of
$3,500
9. Fiscal Year 2023 Budget Amendment in the Amount of $7,000.00 for
Idaho State Liquor Division Grant
10. Subrecipient Agreement Between City of Meridian and Ada County
Housing Authority For CARES Act Community Development Block
Grant Funds
11. Resolution 23-2384: A Resolution of the City Council of the City of
Meridian to Amend City of Meridian Standard Operating Policy 3.4,
Regarding Compensation Program; and Providing an Effective Date
Simison: Now up the Consent Agenda.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: I move approval of the Consent Agenda and for the Mayor to sign and Clerk
to attest.
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Borton: Second.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to approve the Consent Agenda. Is there any
discussion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Those opposed nay? The ayes
have it and the Consent Agenda is agreed to.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. TWO ABSENT.
ITEMS MOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA [Action Item]
Simison: There were no items moved from the Consent Agenda.
DEPARTMENT / COMMISSION REPORTS [Action Item]
12. Resolution No. 23-2383: A Resolution of the Mayor and the City
Council of the City of Meridian Appointing Patrick Gittings to Seat 3
and Debra Pitts to Seat 4 of the Meridian Historic Preservation
Commission; and Providing an Effective Date
Simison: So, we will move on to Department/ Commission Reports. Council, as always
I sat down with the chair of the Historic Preservation Commission and we did our
interviews for open seats and the resolution you have in front of you this evening is to fill
that with two individuals. One of which is Pat Gittings. Pat is a long time Meridian
resident, even though he spent a little bit of time out of the area, but having someone
with that historical knowledge and perspective and remembering what the fields were
that were there, the families that lived there, the locations that were there and someone
has that passion and desire to get involved. He definitely has a different background in
project management, but as they are doing some projects, whether it is the work that
they are doing on, you know, trying to do something a little bit on preservation or have
other things -- having that skill set -- skill set combined with the knowledge of the
community would be really important. You know, goes back to living in Meridian in the
'70s when it was a much different community than it is today, which is nice. The other
one before you is Debra Pitts. Newer to the area, but definitely has a passion for
historic preservation. In fact, you know, it was very interesting when we sat down and I
-- I ran into her recently again where she's showing me the pictures of -- that she takes
when she travels other parts of the country about what they are doing for historic
preservation and coming with ideas about, you know, how -- how do -- how do we
recognize the history and, you know, I -- and I think she also has another important
concept. You know, it's nice to hear. History is people. That was something that was
very big to her. You know, the -- the -- the stories of people that talks about a
community and how do you make that be part of what you want to do. But she -- she's
all in on Meridian from that standpoint and, like I, say she was just down in Texas and
she took more pictures of historic -- historical markers and that -- and -- and, you know,
was very inquisitive. Like why is the Roosevelt not on our history walk tour from that
standpoint and -- you know. So, we are looking forward to seeing what she brings to
the Commission and giving her involvement in the community. So, with that I would ask
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for your approval of these two individuals, but I'm happy to answer any questions you
may have.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: It sounds like you have some excellent folks to serve on the Meridian Historic
Preservation Commission, so I move approval of Resolution No. 23-2383 appointing
Patrick Gittings to Seat 3 and Debra Pitts to Seat 4 of the Meridian Historic Preservation
Commission.
Borton: Second.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to approve Resolution No. 23-2383. Is there
any discussion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay? The ayes have
it and the resolution is agreed to. Thank you very much.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. TWO ABSENT.
13. Meridian Parks and Recreation Commission Annual Update
Simison: And, Mr. Johnson, thank you very much as well to get that -- those new
members on the Commission. Next up is Item 13, which will be the annual update from
the Meridian Parks and Recreation Commission, which will be delivered by Mr. Bevan
this evening. Keith, how are you?
Bevan: Don't know which one of these I should use, but I will use this one. All right.
There we go. I think we have a deck. I'm Keith Bevan. I'm the president of the
Meridian Parks and Recreation Commission for the city and we are here to talk to you a
little bit about what we have done the last year, what our goals are for the coming year
and what we are doing with accomplishments. Start by saying the Meridian Parks and
Recreation Commission is a -- comprised of nine members, including a youth
representative, who is a member -- a young lady that's in high school. Our meetings are
open to the public and broadcast just probably like City Council meetings and they are
once a month on the second Wednesday at 5.30 p.m. and we also have a member from
the City Council, which is a Council member Overton, who is our newest member, who
is the representative on our -- is our liaison. Thank you. All right. Here we go. All right.
So, there is a picture. John Nesmith, who is the owner of Meridian Auto Right here,
Dom Gelsomino, Mike Medellin, Jennifer Bobo, Brandon Simpson, Ellie Hood, who is
our youth representative, Jo Greer, who was the previous, president of the Commission,
Mandy Roberts, who is the current vice-president, and myself and Councilman Overton.
And, again, we -- yeah. Let me go back. Again we meet the second Wednesday of
every month 5.30 p.m. here in the Council chambers and we do sometimes hold off-site
meetings. We will take tours where we go see one of the parks, the golf course, we will
do tours of things so that, you know, we get a hands-on feel of what the parks look like,
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the development of what's happening, so that we can have a better idea of the -- you
know, input we are having on the parks and -- and -- and things we are having. I mean
one of the things we do, obviously, is Parks and Recreation Commission is we want to
be involved in community events, so we try really hard to get involved with things --
certainly the -- the Christmas events and 4th of July, the Kleiner Park events, all those
things that we happen to have. You can see here the picture of Grinch, who is our
Parks and Rec Commissioner and Dom -- Dom Gelsimino. Thank you. If you guys
know Dom he is a dynamic guy. He is so much fun to be around. He loves the city and
he -- he gets involved. Of course Jo Greer, who used to be the previous president of
the -- this Commission and with the -- the Christmas in Meridian and the -- and the
Santa stuff that she does. She's super involved with the Christmas stuff and, you know,
we all try to get involved with all of the events that are going on, because we love
Meridian and so that's why we are here. All right. As you know probably in this last year
we -- in 2022 the City of Meridian had a -- a commissioned citizen survey to assess the
community's perception of Parks and Recreation and some of the services that we
provide and I'm proud to say that in every category we scored higher than the average
nationally in terms of quality of athletic fields, the adult sports program special events,
all those things and that just is a testament to the fact -- you know, as the Commission
we don't run these things, we don't organize them, we don't run them, it's Steve and
Mike and the staff of the Meridian Parks Department that just do a phenomenal job of
running the events and organizing and scheduling the -- all the ball fields that we have
for the sporting events and the HomeCourt and volleyball and all the stuff and that
survey was the evidence that the citizens of Meridian said, yeah, you are doing a good
job. Right? So, kudos to these guys and -- and, yeah, as the Commissioners, you
know, it makes our job easy. So, with that said, you know, we don't want to rest on our
laurels, so we want to continue to -- to focus on things that we think will help the city the
most. So, these are our Commission goals for this year. Number one is to support the
design and construction of Discovery Park phase two, including the skate park and bike
park, which I'm going to talk about a little bit here, but if you guys know Discovery Park
down there off of Lake Hazel and Eagle -- amazing park. You know, the phase one was
done a year or two ago. Phase two is under design. Well, we are going to talk about
that. The other big thing that we do as a Commission is the pathways. All the -- the --
the biking and the hiking and walking trails, we feel like connecting Meridian, all the
parts, allow people to bike and walk through Meridian is an important thing and here is
the crazy thing. I'm going to bring this up. Saturday my wife and I had -- we were down
near -- more in Boise coming up Fairview past Eagle between -- and between Locust
Grove and Meridian we are driving along, we look over, there is two guys on horses --
literally horses coming up the pathway there where -- the canal that goes from Cherry
over to Pine down that little -- through those apartments, there is two guys on horses. I
mean who -- who would think that, that, you know -- I mean Meridian is becoming a little
more urban than it used to be, but there is two guys on horses because we have -- and
they are on one of our pathways. So, it's not just bikes and -- and -- and walking, it's
people on horseback, which I thought was amazing. So, it's pretty cool. Obviously, the
new community center, which is, obviously, still in the early stages and trying to find a
place and the design of that, but we have some -- you know, they are going to ask our
opinion, we have some input on that. The development of the comprehensive park
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system update master plan, which I'm also going to talk about that here in just a bit. We
work with the Meridian Arts Commission on putting artwork at parks, either the
entrances -- there is artwork around the different parks and we help, you know, get
some -- our opinions and -- and -- and input on those things that -- that they need and
we really appreciate being able to work with them on those different parks. Obviously
the big thing lately in the last year or two, Lakeview Golf Course. We have had, you
know, a little bit of input on that. Just they report to us. We have heard from the -- the
consultants that help with the renovation and how we should about working with
Lakeview Golf Course now the city took it over and we have some input on that and we
will continue to -- to help with some of the input on that. Obviously continuing to engage
with citizens, stakeholders and that. Provide feedback on Tully -- the -- the Tully Park.
There is some specific parks that were making work at that -- that we are having input
on. Another big one that's a big change for the city is the pool now the city took over the
pool and that's a great operation and we are having some input on that and, then, just
other partnerships. We talked -- we -- we have presentations from Eagle, Boise, Ada
County parks and waterways. They come and present to us. We talk about how can
we work together to improve both the parks, the -- certainly with Eagle there is a lot
about the -- the pathways of how can we connect our pathways to Eagle, because
Eagle, then, has the pathways that go all the way to Lucky Peak through Eagle, Garden
City, Boise, all the way out and there is a challenge there trying to get past Chinden and
down the hill over the river, you know, but that's what we are working on. And, then, of
course, you know, our presence at community events and that thing that we can help.
All right. So, obviously, big thing that we are doing right now is the Discovery Park
phase two progress. You can see the pictures here. That really cool picture is the skate
park that's being designed and we are going to literally have a world class skate park
here in Boise -- here in Meridian, the Boise area. You know, obviously, we -- you know,
the people designing that have designed stuff all over the world and -- and it's a world
class skate park that we think -- not only will be a great amenity to the citizens here and
the Treasure Valley, but also might, you know, lead to people coming here, right, to be
able to use that. You can see the -- the picture there of one of the -- the -- I think
restroom concession areas. Right now we were just out there last week. Phase two
there is a lot of infrastructure as a part of that parking lots and sidewalks and that, as
well as the skate park. There is also a bike park where people -- you know, you can use
the bicycles and -- and tracks and jumps and that, which is going to be really awesome.
Some basketball courts. Coming up this -- the rest of this year are pickleball courts,
tennis courts, additional picnic shelters, more softball fields, lighting. You know, one of
the things we are trying to do is add some things for teenagers that kids will go there
and -- and use the basketball courts and the -- the skate parks and bike parks and some
of those other things that, you know, gives them -- kids a place to meet and hang out
and have fun and be kids I guess. So, last year we also had a review of our pathway
systems by a group called the Urban Land Institute and they spent several days here
and did some exploration of our park system, of our pathway systems and some of the
things we can do better. Their recommendations -- although they -- they thought we did
a great job with our pathways and need to continue to expand those things, some of the
things are listed here -- wayfinding, which is just signage to let people know you are on
a pathway, you are in the right place and, then, just the last thing, identity and branding,
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letting people know this is a City of Meridian pathway and let them know where they are
going, how to get back to where they were going, all those things. We don't want
people to get on the path and get lost, right, out in the middle of -- you know, as you get
further west it gets a little more less defined in terms of where you are. So, that was
part of that is letting people know you are on the right path, you can stay here. The
standards and amenities, that has to do with, you know, trash cans and benches and
rest stops. We have some spaces where there are bicycle repair stations, so if people
are on a bike and they get a flat tire or something happens they have ability to fix some
of those things and that was some of the other stuff -- the recommendations that they
had for us to continue to expand those items. The community center planning, you
know, for us, obviously, this is still early stages. We are still in the place I think of trying
to find a place for that community center. So, as the commission we -- I don't know that
we have a lot of say in that, it's probably more the -- the -- the Council and other people.
But in terms of how it can help the Parks and Recreation and our mission to help with
those things in the city, we will continue to help with that in terms of the design and --
and how that -- how that works. So, next big thing, obviously, which I -- well -- okay.
Parks and Recreation -- Parks and Recreation master plan, which was adopted here a
couple months ago by the City Council, that was commissioned last year. It went on for
a long time, was a lot of work going in to developing that for the next -- you know, the
previous plan was from 2015, so it's been almost eight years since we updated that plan
as to the goals and mission of the Parks and Recreation Department of the City of
Meridian. It was a great job. A lot of interviews with city -- citizens, the inventory of the
space, the land, the equipment, the goals, everything that goes into running the Parks
and Recreation Department was taken into consideration. We read it as the
commission. We read it, we reviewed it, we had input into it. We liked it. We passed it
on to you -- the City Council and I believe you guys adopted it back on February 7th.
So, that should guide the work of the Parks and Recreation Department for the near
future. I -- I mentioned earlier -- you know, one of the things that's on our goals and
mission of our -- of the commission is to work with the Arts Commission on art -- art
projects in city parks. As you can see here some of the things we are is Seasons Park,
Ten Mile Creek hub -- trail hub and Discovery Park. Seasons Park needed some new
signage. What they had there was old and worn out and -- and, then, we -- we
designed some new stuff. You can see the picture here -- is kind of what we came up
with with the lease. It's actually layers of colored acrylic, which was going to look really
good and be a nice point of focus for people to know that's there. Ten Mile Creek trail
hub, which is around Ten Mile, right there by the Maverick and the water treatment plant
where there is the trail that continues out west, that design we thought would be good to
have. It's sort of a native focus. The design has kind of native flora and fauna with
some of the native birds in that design. You can see -- I think that's the -- is it the
mountain bluebird? Is that what you can see on the -- on the picture there? And I think
some of the flowers are like the Syringa and, obviously, we want to keep things local
and -- and based in Idaho. And, then, Discovery Park, some new branding and -- and
what we are doing out there in the south side of Boise -- why do I keep saying that?
Man, I'm sorry. South side of Meridian there to tie in the -- we thought that -- you know,
the whole branding with the Discovery was about, you know, being out there and some
of the branding has to do with the south side of Ada county, the Birds of Prey and some
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of those things, as well as wildlife and those things that we are focused on. All right.
Another big item that's been on the city's agenda for the last year or two is Lake View
Golf Course and the fact that the city took over responsibility, ownership of Lakeview
Golf Course. We have had some input in some of the things there. Just, you know, you
haven't been out there there is a new irrigation system that they had some issues with
watering all the grass out there and they completely redid a lot of the irrigation process.
I don't know if you guys went out there. We went out -- we took a tour last fall and the
ability for them to -- the -- the machinery they have to put pipe in the ground and, then,
cover it up, it's -- it's an amazing process that -- the company they hired to put in the
new -- all that new irrigation system. The new well. Pumps. New cart paths. New golf
carts. And, of course, what's coming up is some clubhouse renovations and some
better shade on the east side of the clubhouse there between the clubhouse and the
driving range. People can sit out there and eat and enjoy their time and not be quite in
direct sun. So, that continues, you know, and we had some input on that. They -- you
know, we review things and help with -- with some of that. Another interesting thing
that's happened here in the last year is at Tully and Bear Creek Parks is we have
replaced some of the playground equipment to make it a little bit more inclusive and
accessible and what you will see in the pictures there is the old playground equipment
and the new playground equipment. This was paid for with a Community Block
Development Grant. So, that was a nice thing for us to be able to do. And the other
cool thing is there is a company that will take old playground equipment, remove it and
they do what they need to fix it up and they take it to less developed countries. So, the
playground equipment you see in the before picture was taken and is used in less
developed countries for parks in those places. So, it doesn't just get put in a landfill or --
or destroyed, it actually goes to a cool use in another place and, then, of course, we
have our new playground equipment. In -- this year we are also looking at having a
similar upgrade in Bear Creek Park and Tully Park. Of course another big thing is the
swimming pool and the -- man, it's been a lot of work at the -- at the pool. You can -- I --
I won't list it. You can see from the list of all the things that were done. Some of those
things allowed -- made better quality of the water in the pool, the UV system and all
those things, as well as accessibility to swimmers. One of the challenges they had last
year -- and I -- I think, you know, this year might be the same, is lifeguards. At a pool
you need lifeguards and the ability for -- to have as many hours as we want to have that
pool open is dependent on how many lifeguards we have that we can schedule to work
hours and that's a continuing thing that the city -- that -- that the Parks and Rec is
working on to have enough lifeguards so they can be open as much as -- as our citizens
want. But, you know, we could only be open as much as we have lifeguards to -- to be
on staff. With that said a couple things. We instituted a swim test that when you show
up, if you want to swim in the deep end or go off the life -- the diving board now you
have to pass a swim test and you -- you know, the lifeguards, you know, they stop and
you have to swim and do certain things to show you -- you have the ability to swim and,
then, you get a wristband get a wristband and that way they know -- if you don't have a
wristband they see you on the life -- on -- on the diving board, they can say, hey, wait,
wait, you shouldn't be there. You need to go to the shallow end and that has
dramatically reduced the instances of lifeguards having to rescue somebody. I think -- I
don't know the numbers, but before we took it over it was like a daily occurrence the
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lifeguards were having to jump in and save a kid and now it's like once or twice a month.
It's rare because of that, because we said, hey, kids shouldn't be in the deep end if they
can't swim and, you know, that's a good thing. We want to protect our kids. And I have
-- I have said this in the Commission meeting, both of -- I have two daughters. They are
older. They were both lifeguards at a public pool and my older daughter, who was a
lifeguard before -- we lived over in the Twin Falls area and she was a lifeguard and one
of the duties they had -- they asked the lifeguards at the pool to go and be lifeguards for
the Spud Man triathlon in Burley and so, you know, Saturday morning 6.00 o'clock she
goes out there and she's standing on the bank of the Snake River and there is a
gentleman who -- you know, all these swimmers are going by and she's looking and
there is a guy out there -- she sees he -- he's floundering and -- and he, obviously, is
having a struggle. She jumps in, swims out, she pulls him in. Well, he had had a new --
he had just bought a new -- like -- not life jacket. Wet suit. Thank you. And it was too
tight and he couldn't breathe and he -- because he couldn't breathe he started
struggling. She brought him in and so I'm almost like my daughter saved the guy's life
because she was a lifeguard. This is a sales pitch. If any of you guys know teenagers
-- anybody, Meridian pool, we need lifeguards. So, you know, send that out to anybody
you know. It's a great job. It's fun. They get to be outside. They get to me in the sun.
They learn a skill that, you know, someday they may help somebody save a -- save a
life and that's my sales pitch for my for -- for the -- for the Meridian pool and lifeguards
and -- and that it really does impact people. So, anyway, we are going to continue to --
to make changes. There is going to be some artwork put on the side of the building for
our -- our relationship with the Arts Commission. There is going to be a big mural put on
the side of the -- the building there at the -- the swimming pool and it's going to be fun,
so -- all right. Oh. And it's scheduled to open on June 5th and they are currently hiring.
So, if you know anybody that wants to be a lifeguard let them know. A couple new
things at -- new amenities at -- Settlers Park has some new cornhole courts that are
integrated with the horseshoe pits as you can see in the picture here. Obviously
cornhole is a big thing. A lot of fun and that's a cool thing that's happening. And, then,
Kleiner Park has four new pickleball courts, which was funded in a partnership with the
city and Brighton and Ball Ventures and those are on the west side of the big hill where
people sled and -- there and that's a -- a great new amenity that -- and there is -- I think
Ball and Brighton built some condo apartments there that are a 55 plus community,
which I think maybe ties into maybe pickleball and -- and that's a great, you know,
opportunity for them. If you look at the picture I think that's kind of what that looks like.
So, there we go. All right. Man, that's everything we have been doing in the last year,
so -- I thank you for your time. Any questions or comments or anything you want to
know? I may not know, but I got Steve here to provide detailed things, so --
Simison: Thank you, Keith. Council, any questions?
Overton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Overton.
Overton: No question. Just a huge thank you to you --
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Bevan: Thank you.
Overton: -- and to the Commission. It was fun braving the cold last week and -- it was
cold and we went out and looked at phase two of Discovery Park and you actually -- I
think you missed a couple of amenities, but, then, I could say that -- and still miss a
couple more, because I have never seen a park in my life that's a one stop shop for just
about everything that you want to do.
Bevan: Yeah.
Overton: I don't think you mentioned the hammocks.
Bevan: No. Probably not.
Overton: Bocci ball.
Bevan: Yes.
Overton: Bocci ball. Sand volleyball ball.
Bevan: Yeah. Sand volleyball.
Overton: It's got one of everything at least, if not half a dozen. It's pretty impressive
and, you know, my hat's off to you guys and your commission and our Parks
Department for what's going to be a signature park in this valley.
Bevan: It is. And thank you. And, again, I -- we are almost sort of on the back end of
like -- the -- the Parks Department comes to us -- here is what we are going to do and
we are like that's amazing. Yes, let's do it. So, it's not like we are kind of -- we don't
necessarily come up with a lot of those ideas, it's Steve and his staff that -- there is
something that -- and I'm going to throw this out there. A couple years ago there was a
big tree over here in the park that was cut down -- Centennial Park, just the one that's
just right a couple blocks away. Big elm -- oak. Elm. Big huge -- I mean big right foot
diameter tree that was dying and they are like we have to take this tree down for safety
reasons; right? So, we cut it down. But, then, the guys at the city are like, you know
what, we have this big stump. You know what we are going to do? We are going to
take that and we are going to make an amenity at Discovery Park where there is a
water activity, we are going to take that stump, turn it on its side, carve it out and use
this -- and that's the point is that you guys -- you have this Parks Department they care.
The employees of the Parks Department they look at things to how can we use this. It's
a historical tree. It means something. How can we reuse this? And it wasn't us. It
wasn't the Commission. We looked at it and went that's awesome. It was Steve and his
guys that -- you know. And -- and so I don't know who it was that did that, but I -- I'm
going to brag every day about Meridian Parks. All right? That's just who I am. I --
Steve laughs. The Christmas parade I get a little crazy on the float about, you know, we
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are literally the best parks in the world -- in the United States, you know. And a couple
days ago I was watching the news and the -- the -- the parks director for Boise was on
the -- the -- the channel talking about all the stuff they do. You know, Boise has great
parks. We have great parks. Eagle has great parks. That's why people want to move
here; right? That's why people want to come to the Treasure Valley is it's just -- you
know, we care. We care.
Simison: So, Keith, did you just say --
Bevan: Sorry.
Simison: -- did you just say quit investing in parks and people won't move here? Is that
what you said? I just want to make sure I got that correct. We won't put words in your
mouth.
Bevan: I just -- you know, I just -- I just know that -- that -- that the -- that -- between the
commission and the Parks Department themselves, you know, we care about making
things good for the citizens of Meridian, you know, and -- and -- and we try to listen what
they like, what they don't like, what needs to change. You know, there has been
challenges at HomeCourt and just -- and part of it was just so many people want to use
it, how do we -- how do we manage that. And the -- all the softball tournaments during
the summer, how do we manage that, you know, and it's just -- that's a good thing;
right? When you have people that want to use our amenities in our city and we have to
try to manage that, you know, it's a problem, but it's a good problem. It's better than,
you know, people not wanting to be here and as the survey -- the survey we had people
-- they like our parks and people are happy. So, they can't rest on our laurels. We will
keep working, so --
Simison: Council, any additional questions for Keith?
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: Not a question. I just want to say thank you very much for your service.
Special place in my heart for our volunteers. I had the opportunity to volunteer and I
just -- just really appreciate all the commitment that the parks commissioners have
made and how much they care about what happens. So, thank you very much.
Bevan: Thank you. Appreciate that.
Simison: All right. Keith, thank you very much. Appreciate you.
Bevan: Thank you, Mayor.
Simison: And we will look forward to seeing some more great things this year.
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Bevan: Thank you. Thank you, guys. Appreciate it. Thank you.
14. Request to Withdraw Application for Meridian OZ Apartments (H-
2022-0073), by Realm Venture Group
Simison: Thanks. For the record Mr. Cavener got here at 5.03 p.m. With that we will
move on to Item No. 14 -- 14, a request to withdraw application for Meridian OZ
Apartments and turn this over to Mr. Nary.
Nary: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council. We have kind of an unusual
request on your agenda today. So, No. 14 is a request to withdraw. There is a letter
from the applicant to withdraw this application at this time, but it comes on the heels of a
decision the Council has already made and the findings of fact for that are on and so if
you recall from a couple weeks ago we told them we would schedule it. They asked for
it that day of the hearing. We told them we would schedule it. They could submit a
letter, because they hadn't submitted anything in writing at that point and, then, the
Council would consider it and, again, you -- you are free to deny their request and
approve the findings or if you wish to grant their request, then, we can just vacate the
findings. But it is unusual in the sense that -- I was trying to think of a circumstance that
someone requested a withdrawal after the decision was already made, but prior to the
findings being approved, and I couldn't think of once. Normally when we have had
withdrawals it's because we have had a public hearing. The applicant can see that it's
not going to likely get favored or approved. They will usually get a continuance to see if
they can change it or fix it or do something different and if they can't within a short
window of time they will usually ask to withdraw. So, that's the common one I have
seen and we don't see a lot of those, but I don't think I have ever seen one requested
after the decision was actually made. But it is within our code. It is allowed to be
asked. There is nothing prohibiting it. I did raise the concern that the Council had
raised in the conversation a couple weeks ago on what precedential value that would be
and is that a wise thing to allow to have and so I did tell Mr. Parsons if he will include it
on his list for conversation in the future of a UDC amendment on whether or not we are
not going to allow application for it after the decision has been made. But in this
particular case it's allowed. Again, it is a discretionary function. You don't have to grant
it. You don't need to have -- even have a reason to not grant it. You are not required to
grant a request to withdraw. So, any other questions?
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor. Mr. Nary, in -- in their letter they -- last paragraph they talked
about applicant was not afforded an opportunity respond to public testimony at the
hearing, et cetera, et cetera. Can you speak to that?
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Nary: Sure. Mr. Mayor, Member of the Council, so, I -- I distinctly remember --
because there was some public testimony and they did get back up and they did have
the last word and we are really good at that and -- and due process. But, secondarily, I
have I recall -- and I didn't go back and look at the tape, but I believe the Council asked
if they wanted a continuance, because they wanted -- if they wanted more time to
consider it and consider some alternatives and they opted not. So, they had opportunity
to respond and -- and they were afforded appropriate due process. So, again, they --
they could request reconsideration if they wish, but that's -- that's up to them.
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: Bill. I thought it was unusual because the only -- correct me if I'm wrong, but
the only substantive effect of allowing them to withdraw is it permits them to re-apply
with a substantially similar project with what was just denied.
Nary: Correct.
Borton: And a denial would prohibit them bringing back what was denied.
Nary: Correct.
Borton: So, it doesn't make any sense to me why you would not complete the
application, deny the withdrawal, and just approve the findings.
Nary: That is certainly within the Council's discretion, Councilman Borton.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: Question for Councilman Borton. And so what you are saying is by denial
there is that one year period where they can't come back, but since we know that they
cannot do the project as they had planned. I mean we saw the problems with that. We
denied it. They will come back with something different. That's not subject to the one
year.
Nary: Correct.
Hoaglun: So, they can come back within that year's time with a completely different
project.
Nary: Yes.
Hoaglun: I suspect that they want to do, so -- okay. Thank you.
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Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: Council Member Hoaglun, Council Member Borton really did a very succinct
job of capturing kind of my comments and feelings. So, if you will, Mayor, maybe
motion is in order. I move that we deny the request to withdraw the application for
Meridian OZ Apartments, application H-2022-0073.
Overton: Second.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to deny the request to withdraw. Is there
discussion? If not, Clerk will call the roll.
Roll Call: Hoaglun, yea; Borton, yea; Cavener, yea; Perreault, yea; Strader, absent;
Overton, yea.
Simison: All ayes. Motion carries and the request to withdraw the application is denied.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
15. Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law for Denial of Meridian OZ
Apartments (H-2022-0073), by Realm Venture Group for Property
Located at 1475 E. Franklin Rd.
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: It's appropriate to move on to Item No. 15 and I move that we approve the
Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for the denial of the Meridian OZ Apartments,
H-2022-0073.
Overton: Second.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to approve Item 15. Is there discussion? If not,
Clerk will call the roll.
Roll Call: Hoaglun, yea; Borton, yea; Cavener, yea; Perreault, yea; Strader, absent;
Overton, yea.
Simison: All ayes. Motion carries and the item is approved.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
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16. Fiscal Year 2023 Budget Amendment in the Amount of $167,732.00
for Motorola APX Radio Conversion
Simison: With that we are on to Item 16, which is fiscal year 2023 budget -- budget
amendment in the amount of 167,732 dollars. We will turn this over to Mr. Frazier.
Frazier: Good afternoon, Mr. Mayor and Council Members. We will talk a little bit about
radio encryption to explain the back story here. So, every emergency responder in
Meridian, including our friends in fire, use a radio network that's operated by the Ada
County Sheriffs Office and I think we all remember back in the day when television
signals went digital and you had to have a digital antenna, otherwise, you didn't get TV
anymore after the cutoff date for that. This is kind of a similar situation. We need a
radio to be able to decode the signal that is sent to us by the radio network. About six
years ago now we started incrementally replacing all of our radios to catch up to the
newest encryption standard that will be sent out in the future. COVID really set us back,
because it was hard to get a hold of radios. It was hard to get them installed. You
know, we all know that story. So, it set us back and we weren't buying units that we
couldn't get and couldn't get installed anyway. The sheriffs office has escalated their
timeline for putting this plan into action. They want to go live with this in the fall of 2024.
Radios that we purchased last October are still not here and we have no timeline as to
when we will get them. If the amendment is not approved we would have to purchase
them in '24 with no guarantee we would even get them in our possession by the fall of
'24. So, to have any shot of getting ready for this in the fall of '24 and being a good
partner for the sheriff's office, we need to order them now. Hence the amendment.
And, additionally, we just received word from Motorola that mid year there is going to be
a four percent price increase on these products anyway and just like everything else,
the price keeps going up. So, quick explanation. I would ask that you approve the
amendment, but I will certainly answer any questions you have.
Simison: Thank you. And we do have Fire support here to back up what he's saying
from that standpoint if necessary. Council, any questions?
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: Mr. Frazier, quick -- quick question. And I recognize maybe I'm quoting
Council Member Zaremba -- a sideways question here. When you talk about
encryption, does that prevent, then, the -- the public from, essentially, hearing the
communication that's going on and recognizing this is being transmitted I would assume
to the public airwaves, what are the -- what are the legalities around that and preventing
the public from being able to hear that type of communication?
Frazier: That's a good question. So, it's not every channel in the valley here. You can
listen to police activity and fire activity on what are called primary channels with a
scanner. The public -- the news media can hear that. But there is other channels in the
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case of fire where protected health information is broadcast. Patient information. In the
case of police there is criminal information broadcast that's subject to FBI and seizure
rules. So, we have to be able to keep the general public from hearing those things. Not
everything. And there are additional channels that are encrypted, like when there is a
special operations taking place, SWAT operations taking place and things that for safety
reasons the public should not be able to hear. By and large the public can hear the vast
majority of things that occur on those primary channels in the valley.
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: Follow up for either Mr. Nary or for Officer Frazier. Those channels that, then,
are encrypted and -- and the public is preventing -- prevented from hearing that, is that
guided by federal law or department policy.
Frazier: Some of it's guided by federal law. In the case of patient information or CJIS
compliance. The rest of it is governed by a board that oversees all of the radio
communications in the valley for one and, then, within Ada county. So, that board can
decide which channels are or are not encrypted.
Cavener: Okay. Thank you.
Frazier; Yes.
Cavener: Appreciate the education.
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: It just sounds like we are accelerating an existing known expense --
Frazier: Basically.
Borton: -- sooner. Are we going to have a similar request coming from Fire to
accelerate that soon? Makes sense to get in front of it. Okay.
Simison: Okay. Any further questions, comments or motions?
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: I'm Happy to make the motion that we approve the fiscal 2023 budget
amendment the amount of 167,732 dollars for Motorola APX radio conversion.
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Overton: Second.
Perreault: Second.
Simison: I have a motion and in two seconds to approve the budget. Is there any
discussion? If not, Clerk will call the roll.
Roll Call: Hoaglun, yea; Borton, yea; Cavener, yea; Perreault, yea; Strader, absent;
Overton, yea.
Simison: All ayes. Motion carries and the item is agreed to.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Frazier: Thank you.
Simison: Thank you.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: I move that we adjourn our work session.
Simison: I have a motion to adjourn. All in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay?
The ayes have it. We are adjourned
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 5:17 P.M.
(AUDIO RECORDING ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS)
MAYOR ROBERT SIMISON DATE APPROVED
ATTEST:
CHRIS JOHNSON - CITY CLERK