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May 15, 2006
MERIDIAN PLANNING & ZONING MEETING
AZ 06-008
May 18, 2006
APPLICANT South Eagle and Victory Road Property Owners Alliance ITEM NO. 7
REQUEST Continued Public Hearing from April 20, 2006: Annexation and Zoning of
23.29 acres from RUT to C-C zone for South Eagle and Victory Road Property Owners
Alliance - east side of Eagle Road on both the north and south sides of Victory Road
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Zaremba: That's, actually, what I was aiming for. If we went 30 days from now and,
then, added ten days, we would be at--
Canning: The first hearing in June.
Zaremba: -- a few days one side or the other of the first meeting in June.
Rohm: Well, it's of little value to continue it without having an opportunity come to a
consensus, so I think what I'm hearing is June 1 is a date certain and I'd certainly
entertain a motion to that effect.
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman, I would make the motion to continue Items AZ 06-013, PP 06-
011, and CUP 06-006, all relating to Canterbury Commons, to our regularly scheduled
meeting of January 1 st, 2006.
Newton-Huckabay: Second.
Rohm: It's been moved and seconded that we continue Item AZ 06-013, PP 06-011,
and CUP 06-006, to the regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning and Zoning
Commission on June 1, 2006. All those in favor say aye. Opposed same sign? Motion
carried.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Item 9:
Continued Public Hearing from March 16,2006: AZ 06-008 Request
for Annexation and Zoning of 23.39 acres from RUT to C-C for South
Eagle and Victory Road Property Owners Alliance Annexation by the
South Eagle and Victory Road Property Owners Alliance - east side of
South Eagle Road on both the north and south sides of Victory Road:
Rohm: And thank you all for your testimony. It was much appreciated. At this time I'd
like to reopen the continued Public Hearing of AZ 06-008 relating to South Eagle and
Victory Road Property Owners Alliance annexation and begin with the staff report
Canning: Chairman Rohm, Members of the Commission, this is the Eagle -- South
Eagle and Victory Road Property Owners Alliance Project and, surprisingly enough it's
located on South Eagle and Victory Road. There we go. And it does extend south of
Victory Road as shown. I did want to remind the Commission before we get started that
this had been on your agenda before and it got to be very late on your last agenda and
you did go ahead and open up the hearing. Some of the folks that are here tonight may
have left thinking that you wouldn't have heard that hearing, so we just want to make it
clear to everyone tonight that although the applicant made a presentation and there was
one member of the public that spoke that night, that we were -- we are starting over
again tonight. So, staff will make their presentation, the applicant will remake their
presentation, and we would ask that the one member of the public that testified, please,
do testify again. We consider this as a brand new Public Hearing for this and no
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decisions were made at the last hearing. There was some clarification, but this is the
beginning of this hearing. I want to make that very clear. The request that is before you
tonight is for annexation and zoning. The annexation comes with a Comprehensive
Plan -- or with a concept plan and this was requested from the Planning and Zoning
Commission as part of their Comprehensive Plan approval -- Comprehensive Plan
amendment approval for this to be mixed use regional -- I mean mixed use community
designation on the Comp Plan. Let me find my staff report for a moment. Here we go.
So, the question that's -- or the proposal that's before the Commission tonight is for a
mixed use project. They have some residential component and they have a commercial
component, but the first request as the application came in was just for C-C, community
commercial zoning, on the entire property. There are -- the applicant is now proposing
three zones and I will let them explain that a little bit more, because there seems to be a
discrepancy in the annexation and zoning legals that have been prepared and the
acreages discussed in the staff report. So, I think there may be some lines that have
shifted in response to staff's comments, but I don't -- what you see before you tonight is
the one that goes with the staff report as prepared. So, there was a proposal for light
office at the entrance road at Victory and, then, residential adjoining the residential
properties and the remainder of the property, the original application had it as C-C
zoning. So, in your analysis -- staff analysis of this, based on that, Mr. Hood did point
out that the proposed zoning does lean more towards the C-C zoning and less towards
the residential and the office and he questioned -- he recommended that the
Commission consider whether the ratio that the applicants are proposing of commercial
office and residential is appropriate and compatible for this area. There is a large
regional mixed use development to the north of the property. There is low density
residential and medium density residential pretty much surrounding the property. Some
scattered office uses and kind of preexisting commercial uses along Eagle Road. Mr.
Hood also asked that the Commission consider whether the detail provided by the
applicant is sufficient for you to feel comfortable forwarding this on to the City Council.
Over the last few years we have seen a variety of detail and concept plans, generally
the more specific they can be, the more comfortable Council is with making a final
decision on these. That's one thing that the Commission should consider. Have they
shown enough here that you feel comfortable that this will be a benefit to the city. With
regard to access as noted in the staff report. there was originally a commitment by the
applicants that there would only be one access onto Eagle Road. We are now seeing
three on the subject annexation properties, one, two, three, and I think staff is
recommending that that be restricted to one full access for a public street between Easy
Jet Drive and Victory Road. One right-in, right-out driveway north of Victory Road, if
approved by ACHD. Staff further recommends that only one right-in, right-out driveway
to Eagle Road be allowed south of Victory Road. Access to Victory Road should be
restricted to one full access, again, a public street, and one right-in, right-out driveway
on the north side of the road. And, then, only one access on the south side of Victory
Road. So, there are a number of access points. There is three shown on Eagle. I
believe another one shown to this property. So, that's a total of four on Eagle. There is
two shown on Victory and, then, one on the south side of Victory. So, those are the --
ail the access points in question. And, then, the staff report details a number of things
in the development agreement. Mr. Hood has worked with the applicants to try and take
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the concept plan and incorporate the valuable components that the Commission found
in reviewing the Comprehensive Plan amendment. He's tried to incorporate those into
the development agreement. Those are listed on -- in the staff report. There is about a
page and a half of them. On pages 10, 11, and 12. So, with that staff is recommending
approval of the subject application with the development agreement provisions as
shown.
Rohm: Thank you. Any questions of staff?
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman, I do have one, actually, for Mr. Cole, I believe. On page five
of the staff report, the paragraph number seven about the comments meeting, next to
the last sentence recommends that the applicant contact Boise Project Board of
Control. I have never seen that requirement before and I wonder, one, who they are
and are we really asking applicants to ask Boise anything about Meridian?
Cole: Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission, what page again?
Zaremba: Page five, paragraph seven, comments meeting. In the capital letters it says
note and the sentence following that says Public Works staff did recommend that the
applicant be required to contact the Boise Project Board of Control to see if they have
any concerns with the proposal. I don't understand that statement.
Cole: The Boise Project Board of Control is an irrigation district that we are going to be
running into more and more further south that we head in our annexations. You have
seen Settlers way up north, a lot of Nampa-Meridian -- Nampa-Meridian Irrigation
District in the middle and the further we go south the Boise Project Board of Control,
they can control the Ten Mile feeder, the New York Canal, I believe, or one of the
components there coming off the New York Canal. I think Mr. Freckleton was in that
meeting and not me and I assume that he was -- there must be a waterway through this
that he feels is under the jurisdiction of the Boise Project Board of Control.
Zaremba: Thank you. The answer that it's the name of an irrigation company --
Cole: Yes, sir.
Zaremba: -- helps me greatly. Like Nampa-Meridian Irrigation, I mean why are we
asking --
Cole: I don't get the microphone very often.
Zaremba: Thank you.
Rohm: Any other questions of staff? Okay. At this time would the applicant like to
come forward, please?
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Thomason: Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, my name is Marty Thomason. I live at
2960 South Eagle Road and I am a member of the South Eagle Road and Victory Road
Property Owners Alliance. We have some slides that we will talk about in just a
moment, but I'd like to spend just a few moments in recapping the events that led us to
here, like Anna did, thank you for that, Anna. We are five property owners who have
joined together for the purpose of rezoning our property for a future sale. We are not
looking to develop the land ourselves. This isn't a development project that we are
proposing. You probably all remember that now after our last discussion. What we
have done is we have looked at the change in landscape around us and we have
decided that the best and highest use of our property is probably no longer medium
density residential and I'll explain some reasons behind that in just a moment. So, we
have banded together, joined together, and we are pursuing a rezoning without a
development project. So, I know that throws some wrinkles into the development plans
that everybody's accustomed to seeing. So, having said that, I'd like to share just a few
moments with you who the property owners are and if I could have you just move
forward, Anna, to the next slide. And again. Okay. There are five families involved
here. I am the northern most property and, then, next me to the south the Baughman
family, owned by Don and -- excuse me. Dan and Dolly Baughman. Continuing to
move south is John and Anita Sharp. Further south is the Carpenter family, Bob and
Nedra Carpenter. And, then, on the southeast corner of Victory Road is the Axlerod
property. Family members for each of these properties are here tonight and they will
make their comments during the public opportunity. As a group we have joined together
in the summer of last year and we determined that we wanted to pursue a rezoning of
our property and in doing that we determined that it was probably best to hire a
consultant. So, we hired Wayne Forrey to help us through that process. And in the
process of that Wayne did some research for us. He helped us construct a -- what we
called the Guides to Positive Neighborhood Development. These were the founding
principles that we will submit to a development agreement. Wayne also did some
research for us and determined where the -- if there would be a need for commercial
use of land where we are located, Wayne was in the industry and so he met with
realtors and developers and so forth and he helped us formulate our ideas as to
whether we should -- what we should ask in our mixed use designation. Originally, we
asked for mixed use regional. After neighborhood meetings and planning staff meetings
and our presentation here, we stepped that down to mixed use community. And, again,
the plan you will see later, after more meetings, neighborhood meetings and
discussions here, we determined that it would probably be more propose to have three
designated zones and I will talk about those in just a moment. Some of the changing
landscape around us is -- Ada County Highway District is widening our road. South
Eagle Road will be a five lane road soon, so will Victory Road in this area. This will be -
- South Eagle Road is a major arterial. Realtors are interested in putting businesses
along these roads. They are more interested in putting them on these major arterials
than the minor arterials. One of the things that we -- that Wayne got for us was a letter
from Kowallis and Mackey and that's in your packet of information that Wayne
presented at the first meeting, but I would like to just read that letter again, because it's
kind of the basis for our presentation here. I have that here. You have asked me to
comment on the need for commercial zoning south of the complexes on Eagle Road at
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Overland Road. Here is my response. There "is a definite need for neighborhood
services, whether retail or professional office, south of the major commercial areas
growing up near the freeway. Just look at the homes currently in place south of
Overland and those subdivisions in the planning and building stages and the population
will continue to grow in a southerly direction. And everyone who lives there will be
driving north for shopping and services. There is land properly zoned available in
Silverstone and EI Dorado, but the price is getting prohibitive for neighborhood retail
and professional offices to afford. Tenants going into those developments and the
others, the Majestic Marketplace and Grand View, are trending towards regional players
and national franchises. How much do we need south of Overland? Just look north of
the freeway all the way to Eagle. There seems to be no end to the appetite of office and
retail users along that corridor. The residents south of Overland are not going to want
to drive along that congested corridor for essential services. Finally, with no other on
ramp to the freeway between Cole and Meridian Roads, Eagle is the natural funnel for
traffic. People will be driving it anyway, why not provide what they need there and keep
the car trips in the neighborhood. Best regards, Ray Frechette, retail specialist of
Kowalis and Mackey. The subdivisions continue to pop up south of us. There is the
Tuscany Subdivision that continues to grow. There is additional subdivisions, Kingsbury
approved out in that area. There is the assisted living complex south of Victory Road.
There are continued need to satisfy the appetite of residential buyers south of us and,
again, what we are talking about in our area is a business campus environment that
doesn't necessarily draw from the region, but services those people going up and down
those roads. And I'll explain that when I get to our concept map. But, again, a little
more recap. Given these changes we asked Wayne to present our proposal at an
October 17th meeting. At that meeting the motion was made to recommend approval of
mixed use community for our property, with three qualifications. That is that we would
submit an annexation application, that we would have another neighborhood meeting in
compliance with the annexation application process and, finally, that we would sign a
development agreement. We had another neighborhood meeting on January 5th. We
submitted our annexation application on January 11 tho We were put on the docket for
our meeting to discuss annexation on March 16th, but we were assigned a new staff
member -- or planning staff person between those two meetings and at the March 16th
meeting it was deemed more appropriate to provide direction for both the Alliance
members and the staff and help get us a little further along the process. So, no public
comment was taken. But I did have the opportunity to share this presentation then. At
that meeting Caleb used the opportunity to ask you for direction, as did we, the Alliance.
And we felt that there were five directives that were provided to us. My slides are a little
out of order. I'm sorry, Anna. That's okay. I can just do this without the slides, though.
We felt there were five directives that were given to us. The first was that our proposal
needed to include legal descriptions of each zone. Remember, we put in a request for a
mixed use regional initially. We stepped that down to mixed use community. Then,
further, we said that we are committed to a residential or landscape buffer along
Sutherland Farms. In our neighborhood meetings it was determined that those
occupants wanted residential, as opposed to landscape. So, we threw out landscape
and we committed to a residential buffer along Sutherland Farms. Our meetings with
the planning staff determined that the more appropriate use of the space along Victory
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Road next to Sutherland Farms would be light office, something where there could be
landscape buffers that would be appropriate between the subdivision and between our
new R-4 designated area and to Victory Road and something that would be more like
an 8:00 to 5:00 environment, where it would be something like what's at Easy Jet and
South Eagle Road. The Stone Creek Dental site and Sight and Sound. Something like
that. So, we were asked to provide legal descriptions for each of these zones. We
were also asked to provide a vision of how we saw the land being used. And so we
have made an attempt at doing that and I'll explain that in the package you have in just
a moment. We were asked to describe in detail the feathering of uses of the C-C zone.
If you will remember, we had indicated that we were committed to a feathering of uses.
So, we have tried to detail that in the information that we are presenting tonight. We
were asked to work with the planning department to minimize curb cuts and access off
of Victory and South Eagle Road and, then, work with the planning department to
formulate a development agreement. We met with the planning department on March
22nd. Anna and Caleb were very helpful in sharing what typically goes into a
development agreement for a development project. We have taken the information
from that that we can commit to, because, remember, our scope is not a development
project, but a rezoning, and, then, we put that into the document. If we could put up the
concept map now, then, I'll just talk that through. There we go. This was provided in a
package of information -- I'm sure most of you have it, but I'm sure your file's gotten
pretty large right now, so if we will just look up here, I'll walk us through it. The first area
I will talk about is the area that's yellow green. That's the residential area. We are
committed to providing a residential buffer next to Sutherland Farms. This area would
be zoned R-4 and it is -- we intend that those lots would be of like size to the lots that it
backs up to on Sutherland Farms, which are approximately 8,000 feet in this area and
we envision that the structures that would be constructed here would be compatible with
the Sutherland Farms homes. The next area I'll talk about is the blue area. It's the light
office. That's 1.43 acres that's designated to the light office area. And, again, what we
see here is something similar to what's at Easy Jet and South Eagle Road, where they
would be single level structures, they would have roof lines that are consistent with
residential areas. They would probably be more like dental offices, that sort of thing,
located there. In our C-C zone, that's the brown zone, there are four different uses I'd
like to describe. The first of those uses is along the arterial roadways. Those uses
would be along South Eagle Road and Victory Road and what we envision here is more
retail intense type buildings or business interests. We anticipate the footprints of these
to be not to exceed 12,500 square feet. These would be something like what you see
facing Overland in the Silverstone and EI Dorado business parks, like where Me-Time
Coffee and Baird's Drycleaning are. Those smaller neighborhood serving business
interests we would see. It's what we would envision there. This -- the area I'm talking
about right now is just the north side of Victory Road along South Eagle and Victory
Road. Maybe on the corner what we'd see there is like a business like a bank branch or
something along those lines, okay? The next area I'll talk about is what we call the
interior transitional lots. That's the lots that would be against the residential area. They
would be on the opposite side of the proposed new roadway that runs to the back of the
property and these would be, again, lighter office-type settings. These would probably
have footprints in the 7,500 square foot range. They would be of similar construction to
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residential in terms of their look. They'd probably have roof lines along those lines. We
would envision that the windows in the front would face the residences. Parking lots
would be behind that towards the rest of the commercial buildings. They would be
joined by parking lots. Access to that would only be off of the proposed roadways. That
sort of thing is what we envision there. In the center, what we are going to call the
interior lots, we have the buildings that would be of a more business commercial
intensity. These might be multi-level. They wouldn't exceed, obviously, the C-C zoning,
but we are saying that the footprints for these buildings would probably not exceed the
20,000 square foot range. These would be, you know, contemporary business park
development would be used here where there would be shared plaza for gathering
areas, that sort of thing. We envision this to be the area that -- it's surrounded by the
retail on one side and the lighter office on the other. It's not right up against the
residential. Anyway, that's what we envision there. Finally, the area I'll talk about that's
a C-C zone is the area on the southeast corner of Victory and South Eagle Road. This
is, again, zoned C-C here, but what we envision here is something along the lines of a
development that is pedestrian friendly, kind of a retail office complex where the parking
is on external portions of it, but there is no parking internally in front of the buildings on
the inside. It's more of a walk through complex pedestrian focused type thing. That's
our concept map and, again, I know this was provided in the packet of information that
you all had and, unfortunately, this particular map doesn't reflect that. The one that I
gave you, if we -- can we show that on the scanner? Can you reflect it that way? It has
-- it has our buildings put on there and so forth. Oh, well, we'll move on.
Moe: This one?
Thomason: That's the one. Right there that's in your packet. Yeah. You know, in
response to the staff report, I'll take just a moment. Actually, will be faster than that.
We really agree with the staff report in general. The report that Caleb submitted last
Friday is, basically, the concepts that we have talked about. We appreciate the effort
they have put into it to understand our unique proposal. We have submitted only three
comments back to them. The first is regarding the interior lots, because in the
development agreement section it doesn't have the word in there for footprint and we
don't want to be misleading in that respect. We are talking about 20,000 square foot
footprint. The second is regarding the access points on the property on the southeast
corner of Victory Road and South Eagle Road. The intent of the property owners is to
develop the southeast corner as a pedestrian friendly retail office complex and the
restriction of access points may negatively affect that access. And the third is regarding
the areas in each zone. Or, excuse me, the acres in each zone. On the first page of
the staff report, the R-4 zoning and the L-O zoning, the acres they assign to that are just
switched. I think it's just a transportation on their part, because it's right later in the
document. So, we are in agreement with the -- in general with the document that's been
submitted. The information that they put in for the development agreement is right out
of our packet and we agree with that. We are willing to commit to those in our plan
here. Let me summarize. The reality is that these properties will sell. This Commission
will deal with changes on these properties. We all purchased our properties because
we liked rural settings. I purchased mine in '86. There was no on-off ramp. There was
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a corn field across from me. A wooded area across from me. Hay fields across from
me. A horse ranch behind me. We bought a rural setting and well -- that's what we will
do again. So, these properties will sell. The City of Meridian and this Commission has
a unique opportunity here to actually manage the future land use of ten parcels of land.
Our collaboration and coordination we believe is a benefit to the city, because it avoids
piecemeal development and provides a more cohesive development pattern. The
Alliance believes we are proposing something that is positive for the city and the
surrounding area. I will finish with a recap of -- other people say it better than I do.
Brad Hawkins-Clark summarized the October 17th meeting with these words: There is
a higher likelihood of high density commercial and/or office uses being supported along
this corridor than residential uses. The Commission supports adding commercial uses
to the city limits where ever it is feasible. We want to encourage people to shop and
spend money in Meridian and allowing commercial uses in this area is one option to
accomplish that goal. And, finally, one of the things that Brad said was the Commission
believes the applicant's protections offered to Sutherland Farms Subdivision in the
proposed development agreement are sufficient to address many of the neighbors'
concerns. This includes providing residential uses at the common property line with
Sutherland Farms Subdivision. The Alliance requests the Commissioners approve this
application and move us onto the City Council meeting. We are currently on the docket
for May 2nd. We have taken input from all the parties involved. We have modified our
application and our proposal as much as we possibly can without an actual
development project. We believe we have provided significant detail for a development
agreement and we are committed to signing that. We believe our proposal has merit
and should be heard by the City Council. Thank you. I'll take questions if you have any.
Rohm: Thank you. That was a well orchestrated presentation and I know you folks
have put a lot of work into this and I'll just say that it's appreciated that you come as well
prepared as you have.
Thomason: Thank you, sir.
Rohm: Thank you. I appreciate that. Any questions of the applicant?
Newton-Huckabay: I have none.
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman, just one if I may.
Rohm: Commissioner Zaremba.
Zaremba: Mr. Thomason, one of the requests was that you supply the survey -- the
boundaries of the three different zones that you're asking for and I see that you have
complied with that. However, staff notes that that must also be stamped by a
professional land surveyor and are you going to be able to do that?
Thomason: Yes. That was turned in on the 19th and, I'm sorry, our response to the
staff was -- it takes all of us getting together, since we are an Alliance, and it was a little
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slower than we had anticipated. But, yes, we have turned those stamped documents
into Caleb on the 19th, whatever day that was. I have forgotten now. Was that
yesterday?
Newton-Huckabay: Yesterday.
Thomason: Sorry. My days kind of run together.
Zaremba: It changes every day. It's hard to keep up.
Rohm: I think at this time I'd just like to get a legal opinion on if this application that we
have before us is to -- from RUT to C-C and the revisal is to have three separate zone
applications, R-4 and --
Thomason: Light office.
Rohm: -- light office is another one, would -- should this have to be re-noticed, so that --
that the public would actually receive notification of that application, as opposed to it all
being C-C?
Baird: Well, Mr. Chair, Members of the Commission, I think that's a good thing to
discuss and I would like some input from planning staff. Generally, if what has been
noticed is the most intense use and the additional zones are less intense use, then, we
are usually satisfied that the notice has been adequate. And it appears that the
neighbors are aware of what's going on and this is giving them additional information by
being here tonight. So, I'm almost leaning towards saying, yeah, this is probably okay
and if there is any deficiency it can be cured with the additional posting for the City
Council hearing. But before we make a conclusion on that, I would want to get some
input from the planning director and see if there is some concurrence on that.
Canning: Chairman Rohm, Members of the Commission, my only concern would be if it
were just going down in intensity within a commercial district, but we are introducing a
whole new residential component to this that -- that would be my only concern. If it
were going from C-C to L-Q and that were it, then, I wouldn't be concerned. But it is a
residential use, less intense than a commercial use. To most people, no, but -- or, yes,
sorry. But there may be somebody that would have feelings the other way.
Baird: And, Mr. Chair, it appears that the proposed residential uses do abut residential -
- other residential uses; is that correct? Yeah. And that's probably where you're going
to have the problem, because somebody who may have seen the notice said, okay,
office building, I'm gone during the day, it's no problem, you know, vacant on weekends.
This is a different use. So, with that additional information from the planning director, it
might make sense -- if they, indeed, are going forward with the three zones, it's basically
a new application.
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Rohm: And I think to kind of summarize that, I think that it's still important to go ahead
and take the balance of the public testimony, but to continue this, so that it can be re-
noticed, so that all three zones would be depicted in the re-notice. Then, we would be
covered, so that anybody that would have differing views would have an opportunity to
speak to that as well. But I -- that doesn't take anything away from your presentation,
because I think you did an ~xcellent job.
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman?
Rohm: Commissioner Zaremba.
Zaremba: If I may comment. I agree with going ahead and taking all testimony tonight.
My opinion is that the discussion isn't going to be a whole lot different than the
discussion we had when we were discussing the Comprehensive Plan amendment.
One of the requirements was that this Alliance go through the process that we are doing
right now. We have put them off a couple of times and I'll hang my opinion on one
sentence that Mr. Baird provided, which was that this will be re-noticed and there will
be another Public Hearing before the City Council. I -- not that I want to do everything
on behalf of the applicant, but I would be comfortable making a decision tonight and
feeling that not only had notice been appropriate, but that there will be a second
opportunity for noticing the zones as they are. Is that a safe --
Thomason: If I might interject. At our January 5th neighborhood meeting, which was
held at the police station in Meridian, this was presented and the attendees all
requested a copy of our concept map and they all received a copy of that. The very
next day I put that in the mail to them. The challenge here is this was a request of the
planning staff that we formalize this, rather than be just going C-C, because we have
made the commitment about the uses. This seems like an unnecessary road block to
us.
Rohm: And it may well be. Thank you.
Baird: Mr. Chairman, due process for everyone involved should never be seen as a
road block. We try and do the decision right the first time. So, please, don't get us
wrong, we just want to make sure that everybody who is affected has been noticed.
And it's my understanding that under normal circumstances this would go onto Council
without an additional mailing notice; is that correct?
Canning: Chairman Rohm, Tara will have to help me out. I'm never quite sure. Does a
mailed notice get sent out between Planning and Zoning Commission and City Council
hearing?
Green: Mr. Chairman, Anna, yes, it does. For the City Council meeting there will be a
notice sent out.
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Canning: And that notice gets sent out in approximately a week and a half, is that right,
for --
Green: Yeah. It has to be sent out 15 days prior to the Public Hearing.
Canning: So, we would need to change that -- we would need to make sure we change
that before -- description before City Council.
Mae: Mr. Chairman?
Rohm: Commissioner Moe.
Moe: I guess before we continue this discussion on, maybe we should get through all
the public testimony and whatnot and see whether or not we have anybody in the
audience that --
Rohm: I'm all for that. Thank you, sir.
Canning: And, Chairman Rohm, I'm sorry to -- I know you want to move on, but before
any of the folks leave, the applicant testified that this would be heard by the City Council
on May 2nd and that is not correct. On May 2nd the City Council will decide what day
they will hear this on. It's been a -- this has been a very difficult one timingwise,
because you made the recommendation on the Comprehensive Plan amendment, we
had to forward that recommendation to the City Council, so it's been kind of just sitting
on their docket waiting to get scheduled. So, the purpose of the May 2nd discussion
regarding this item is solely to set it to a date for them to hear it based on your
recommendation. I just want to make that clear, so that -- you all don't have to show up
on May 2nd. That's all. Just wanted to let you know.
Rohm: Okay. At this time there are a number of people that have signed up for this
particular application and the first thing that I'd like to do is see if there is a single
spokesman for a homeowners association or a group that would like to speak for -- you,
sir?
Olsen: Mark Olsen, I'm the board treasurer for--
Rohm: That's all right. I'll take care of that. And could I get a show of hands -- those
people that he would be speaking for tonight? Okay. There was quite a number of
folks. And I guess what I'm asking is when he comes forward and speaks, unless he
does not bring up something that you feel is a very valid point, we would like to give him
a ten minute time slot and he is taking your time in speaking for you and unless there is
something specific that he omits, we'd appreciate it if it was just at your -- at the time
that your name is called, just let it be known that you have been spoken for. And so
with that being said, sir, would you like to come forward.
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Olsen: Commissioners, Chairman, Madam Commissioner, ladies and gentlemen, as
treasurer of Thousand Springs --
Rohm: You will need to state your name and address.
Olsen: Oh. Mark Olsen. 2969 South Givens Way, Meridian, Idaho. 83642. In
Thousand Springs Subdivision.
Rohm: Thank you, sir.
Olsen: As treasurer of Thousand Springs Homeowners Association and at our board's
urging and vote, with the consensus of many homeowners within our subdivision, I'm
here as a spokesperson of the association and surrounding groups, including Tuscany.
If I may, would you raise your hand if you're from Tuscany? And also from Sutherland
Farms. Would you raise your hand if you're from Sutherland Farms. Representing 380
homeowners in our subdivision alone and 950 people living in just one of these three
subdivisions at the intersection Eagle and Victory in Meridian. When you consider the
impact this proposed petition has upon the three subdivisions immediately surrounding
the intersection, there are literally thousands of people being affected by this single or
one petition. With me tonight are many who support, as I have just identified and live in,
our neighborhood and surrounding area at this intersection. We do not want wholesale
continued commercial development along Eagle Road south of the Ridenbaugh Canal
to Victory or even south further along Eagle Road from Victory. We moved all of us out
here less than seven years ago into an area that we were assured by then existing
designation zoning predominately was either rural or residential. Those designations
and zoning controls were, we believed, to be reasonable and had as a reasonable
expected outcome and influence upon everyone's decision to build, buy, and live out
here to raise our families. We find ourselves now already in the midst of development
so dense and impacted that it is, at best, nerve racking and really a challenge just to
drive in and out of the subdivisions respectively. Eagle Road and Victory are planned
for expansion, yet today and for at least the next 12 to 18 months, perhaps as long as
two years, we face the nearly insurmountable daily obstacle of a narrow farm-to-market
two lane road at this very intersection. Eagle Road has only two lanes from Victory
north until you pass Ridenbaugh Canal over a quarter of a mile. Victory Road is only
two lanes in any direction until you drive further east approximately three miles. There
are literally thousands of people dumping into a narrow two lane farm-to-market county
road on any given day from the hours of approximately 6:00 in the morning until 7:00
and 8:00 at night. With the combined population of several large subdivisions, the
Meridian School District has acquired new land. They have identified a location for a
new elementary school within less than one quarter mile of the Eagle and Victory Road
intersections. The traffic burdens and the vehicle travel trips through this intersection
has more than doubled in the last four years. They will more than triple within the next
36 months as homes being built right now come onto the market, as the school is built,
as the population of the students occur and as Eagle Road continues a rapid growth
and high density traffic volumes. Yet, we will have ourselves no real traffic relief
effectively for two years. Planning and Zoning staff have correctly published sound
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reasons why this particular intersection at Eagle and Victory have some real and we
believe substantive issues. This will unreasonably impact the entire neighborhood
surrounding the area. The Planning and Zoning Commission has a potential interest in
this request, because, in theory, we believe it may be easier to administer and zone
larger tracts of land where both landowners and prospective developers can come
together ta petition the Commission for just one or two classes of use under zoning
control. We believe this seems to be the case before you. And yet a closer
examination of the petition for commercial designation discloses some serious issues
and flaws within the petition from this coalition applicant. There are over 250 acres of
commercial land and currently zoned property in less than one half mile sitting along
both Eagle and Overland that, as commercial, are not even yet developed. With the
continued development of Silverstone and EI Dorado commercial plazas on either side
of Eagle Road south from Overland, it's reasonable to observe that the Ridenbaugh
Canal establishes a natural and cohesive break or barrier, a dividing line, if you will,
between that high density impacted commercial versus residential uses along Eagle
Road. All that said, we are still painfully aware that dollars talk. Right now these dollars
are shouting in commercial value along Eagle Road, even near the intersections
particularly at Eagle and Victory. We will need to compromise, na doubt. Planning and
Zoning will continue, albeit we believe, of course, unnecessary commercial
development in our residential neighborhoods. So, we have come to a conclusion, a
consensus, if you will, that we probably have a much more reasonable solution that
limits the use of the expansiveness of the commercial zoning, accommodating a
commercial demand in a limited manner and still encouraging responsible development
in residential, high density conditions such as exists within the petition circumstances
before you. Mr. Darrell Hines of Sutherland Farms has, in fact, put together with
several of us an alternative zoning designation design plan. We urge your positive
action now to look at and consider that alternative, thus to limit and accept the
commercial zoning changes and impact that are evident within our alternative proposal.
Without timely action now to help us responsibly develop our area, we will continue to
bring issues like these and, unfortunately, we believe perhaps even worse, before the
Planning and Zoning Commission and, then, even the City Council now and in the years
to come. We, like you, on the Commission, want to avoid an otherwise unnecessary or
negative and destructive public review process and we, too, want to strike a responsible
pose, while still limiting an otherwise degrading event or impact to our home values and
the very lifestyles of families for our neighborhood and our future. Thank you. Three
and a half minutes.
Rohm: That was pretty good. Thank you.
Newton-Huckabay: Thank you very much.
Rahm: Darrell Hines. From the audience he's deferring his testimony until we have
heard from another individual.
Romella: Hello. I have a slide presentation, if you could get that ready for me. Under
Tuscany, the disk that I gave you.
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Rohm: What was your name, sir?
Romello: My name is Scott Romello. I live at 3293 South Capulet in Meridian. That's in
the Tuscany Subdivision. I have been volunteered by my neighbors to voice some of
the concerns Tuscany has regarding this development. I did a dry run earlier today at
about 13 minutes, so I hope that I'm not cut off if I go a couple minutes over, because
I'm speaking for quite a few people in Tuscany. I'd like to thank the chair and the
Commissioners for the time and the opportunity to address you tonight. First, I want to
turn into the board, if I made, some signed petitions that we collected for the March
meeting from Tuscany homeowners who are against commercial development at Eagle
and Victory. As of last week Tuscany had 391 homeowners of record, which is just over
a thousand residents. Approximately 594 additional homes are planned in Tuscany
over the next two years with more on the way after that. First, I would like to start on
something that we all seem to be able to agree on. We are very supportive of South
Eagle Road and Victory Road Property Owners Alliance mutual decision to come
together to have all of their properties zoned and developed as one larger parcel. We
believe that this is good for the City of Meridian, good for Eagle Road, and good for the
neighborhoods in the immediate area. We understand and also have compassion for
the situation that these homeowners have been faced with, having to see the
neighborhood transition from rural to urban, as well as having their pieces of their land
involuntarily taken away for the upcoming widening of Eagle Road. I'd like to state that
the preference for the majority of residents in Tuscany is for there to be no change to
the Comprehensive Plan and for the residential zoning that was originally planned for
this corner to take effect. We, along with our neighbors in other communities to the
north have bought property here with the understanding that the immediate area would
remain residential. We do not want the mistakes of Eagle Road north of 1-84 repeated
south of the interstate. It is our desire to keep this corner residential. If our desire to
keep this corner residential is found to be impossible, we will continue to work towards
the lowest possible impact of commercial development, meaning for us light office uses
and restricted hours. If you can go to the next slide, please. I think you -- you went a
couple too far. I had a couple maps in the beginning.
Canning: I got it. I thought you had forgotten to tell me to forward it. I'm sorry.
Romello: Okay. I'm sorry.
Canning: I will wait for your instructions from now on.
Romello: Okay. I'm sorry. You don't possibly have a pointer that I could use, do you?
Newton-Huckabay: Yeah. I was borrowing one, so--
Romello: Thank you. If you look at this map, these are the properties that are in
question and it is, basically, surrounded on all sides by residential. You have
Sutherland Farms. You have Thousand Springs. You have Tuscany. You have the
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future Medford Place, which is duplexes. It's already been approved. And I also
wanted to state I think maybe the reason that Boise Control was brought in was
because of the McDonald Lateral, which is an irrigation ditch, does run across this
property and I don't know if that was talked about in their development plans. If you'd
go to the next slide, please. If you can pull back a little bit and look at the area past our
immediate region, within three miles we see an area that is literally awash in
commercial, industrial, office, and mixed business use. The original staff report from the
October 2005 meeting was very thorough in refuting most of the Alliance's claims and
statements that this corner has no choice but to develop in a commercial manner. I will,
essentially, paraphrase a few parts of this report several times this evening to support
some of our points. If you can go to the next slide, please. These are the major points
of concern I would like to address on Tuscany's behalf this evening. Commercial
development will make a bad traffic situation only worse on Eagle Road. Second, there
are compatibility and design issues with the existing neighborhoods. Thirdly, there is no
pressing need for further commercial in this part of Meridian, Four. We want to know
what the impact will be on a future Tuscany elementary school, which is very close to
this project. Five. This project seems to contradict many of the goals and objects of the
Meridian Comprehensive Plan of 2002. And, six, we request clarification on the state
statute regarding the CPAs. So, I'll go a little bit in depth, if you can go to the next slide,
please. About the traffic situation. Turning this corner into commercial would negatively
impact the traffic on an already very busy road. In the afternoon during rush hour traffic
backs up at the Eagle exit from the interstate for sometimes a quarter to a half mile.
These are people illegally pulled over onto the shoulder just waiting to exit the interstate
onto Eagle Road. Eagle Road is already straining from the existing traffic today, This is
not projected traffic two years from now, this is traffic this afternoon. Eagle Road
between 1-84 north to Fairview Avenue is the most congested road in the state of Idaho.
And according to the Idaho Department of Transportation -- transportation department,
in 2004 the 1-84 interchange at Eagle was handing more than 52,000 vehicles in a week
day. This interchange was designed originally for no more than 30,000 vehicles a day,
which it's currently operating at 40 percent beyond design capacity. Anyone who is
fortunate enough to be driving south on Eagle Road from the interstate in the afternoon
or, who knows, you sometimes have to wait ten minutes just to get past -- just to get
south of Victory. Mr. Thomason in his eloquent presentation to the board last month
stated to us that there may be as many as 9,600 homes and 24,000 people living within
the area south of Eagle within the next few years. We see this fact as an excellent
reason why not to put commercial development at this corner. Many of these people
are going to want to reach 1-84 and get to work and most of them are going to be driving
past this intersection on a daily basis. Commercial and retail development will mean
more traffic, slower speeds, more traffic lights, and more curb cuts will be required.
There are already three existing traffic lights between 1-84 and Victory Road. which is a
drive of less than a mile and this commercial development will probably require even
more. We believe that prudent city planning would be to place community shopping
hubs away from the interstate as shown in the 2002 Meridian Comprehensive Plan, not
next to it, in order to reduce the traffic demands on these crowded arterial collector
roads next to the interstate. And paraphrasing from the staff report of Brad Hawkins, if
the additional 50 plus acres of commercial and office use is constructed south of
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Ridenbaugh, another traffic signal would likely be needed. However, traffic signals
often function best when served by four legs of traffic. Since all the mixed use land
south of the Ridenbaugh Canal would only be on the east side of the road and no high
volume east-west street to intersect with Eagle Road, it is questionable that traffic
warrants would be met or that the city would function as well. If you can go to the next
slide, please. Our second contention. Compatibility and design issues. Directly from
the 2002 -- Brad Hawkins' staff report: One reason for designating specific commercial
area on the Comprehensive Plan is to minimize negative impacts upon nearby residents
and the general public. This is one of the objectives of the neighborhood centers. And
separately on this point, currently the Ridenbaugh Canal serves as an excellent
buffering transition from the intense commercial activities in Silverstone and EI Dorado
business parks to the residential uses there upon Eagle. If you can go to the next slide,
please. There is absolutely no need for additional commercial in this part of Meridian.
The Silverstone and EI Dorado business campuses alone, within site of this project,
offer a potential total of over two million square feet of commercial space on Eagle
Road. This is just between 1-84 and Victory. Coming from the staff report again: By
adding additional acres of land designated for mixed use in Meridian's area of impact,
staff is concerned with the potential over-supply of commercially zoned land, especially
office uses. Meridian's 2005 office vacancy rate has been noted by the chamber of
commerce and other real estate sources to continue to be high. We are concerned
about extending more retail and office uses south of the Ridenbaugh Canal and believe
other locations are better suited for these uses. Southstone Subdivision located at the
intersection of Eagle and Easy Jet provides three acres and eight building lots of light
office zoned land. And the Sutherland Farms Subdivision provides an additional five
acres and seven building lots for this area. Staff finds that between these two projects,
which already provide more than eight acres of nonresidential uses, there is adequate
commercial land supplied along this corridor. Furthermore, in an area south of 84
between Locust Grove and a half of Eagle Road there is over 250 acres of vacant or
undeveloped land either designated as commercial or mixed use regional on the future
land use map. This does not include Silverstone or EI Dorado or any land north of 84.
All of this property is within a one and a half mile radius of the subject properties.
Furthermore, there are two mixed use centers noted along Victory Road. Staff has not
seen commercial development plans for either of these centers and this would,
generally, indicate there was not a very high demand for nonresidential uses. That's the
end of the staff report on that matter. We would also like to comment for a moment on
the commercial developments already south of the canal in Southstone and Sutherland
Farms. Both of these were done without ever having to go through the formal rezoning
process. They are sitting on what was supposed to be a residentially zoned land. One
was done with an exception, from our understanding, and the other on a variance.
Homeowners woke up one morning to see commercial office parks springing up next to
their property. If signs had been placed and we had been noticed that these were going
to be built. we probably would have shown up to oppose them. Now, their presence on
Eagle Road outside of their originally assigned zone, is basically being used as
justification by the owners to force commercial further down this corridor outside the
guidelines of the existing Comprehensive Plan. Also, to address an Alliance point.
They have stated that several real estate appraisers have told them that land is -- that
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land is not residentially at its highest and best use. We would like to make the point that
just because an appraiser believes a parcel is not currently zoned for its best use, this
does not automatically make it so. I'm guessing that the land and the buildings that St.
Luke's occupies might be worth commercial -- more commercially as a multi-story
corporate headquarters than a hospital, but it's not zoned for that use, so it doesn't
matter. But our way of thinking, just about any land at a major intersection would be
worth more commercially than residentially. If you will go to the next slide, please.
Tuscany Elementary. How will this change in zoning affect the future Tuscany
Elementary School, which is currently projected by Meridian School District to be open
in the 2008-2009 school year. Within a few years there will be an elementary school
opening less than a quarter mile from this intersection. The school board already owns
the land. It's not a matter of if it's going to open, it's a matter of when. This is not going
to be a high school. It's not going to be a junior high. This is going to be an elementary
school. Young children that live in Thousand Springs, Sutherland Farms, Tuscany, and
the future Medford Place will, in many cases, be walking to this school. This means
children as young as five having to cross some of these roads. Turning this corner into
commercial does not help create a safer environment for them to get back and forth to
school every day. If you could go to the next slide, please. This development
seemingly contradicts the Comprehensive Plan guidelines and some of these points
were addressed in the October staff report. I'm going to paraphrase once again for
time. To allocate and identify locations for industry and commercial business parks.
The primary tool to accomplish this action is the future land use map, which was created
in 2002 after more than 18 months of public workshops and hearings. That map
designates the industrial business park areas and staff believes represents an adequate
land supply for the total build out population of Meridian, The subject area was not
designated for such uses and the residents and prospective buyers have now made
purchasing decisions based on the fact that this is planned a residential area. Another
guideline. Plan for a variety of commercial and retail opportunities within your impact
area. Staff believes commercial opportunities have been planned and that the subject
property is not one of them, nor should residential land be removed from the area of
impact to accommodate additional commercial land in this area. And the last guideline.
Protect existing residential properties from incompatible use development on adjacent
parcels. This policy touches on one of the primary Objectives of zoning, to protect the
public health and welfare. It is the city's obligation to insure existing properties, both
county and city, are protected from harmful, disturbing, or unnecessary encroachments.
Go to the next slide, please. We also ask for clarification from the City of Meridian the
following State of Idaho Code -- State Idaho Code Title 67, Chapter 65, states that
commission may not recommend amendments to the land use component of the
Comprehensive Plan to the governing board more frequently than once every six
months. We would like to be -- we would just like to know when was the last date
Planning and Zoning Commission formally recommended CP amendments to Meridian
City Council. A Comprehensive Plan by statute is not something that's permitted to be
changed more than twice a year. Next slide, please. The way this whole project has
been moving forward, we believe is problematic. In order to have an amendment to the
Comprehensive Plan, local municipalities providing the essential services and nearby
neighborhood are to be consulted to give input. Since the Alliance will not end up being
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the final developer of this property, they are primarily seeking a zoning change. Their
original application did not include an annexation request or a development plan.
Without a formal development plan the municipalities servicing this area have not been
able to comment or give proper input to Planning and Zoning. This is not how the
process has been designed to work. It is our opinion that the Alliance is seeking a
change in zoning first and foremost for financial reasons. They are only now applying
for annexation and submitting a development plan to achieve a zoning change, by their
own admission at this very meeting tonight. We do not doubt the desire to work with
their fellow neighbors in piecing together a large parcel to be developed together. We
actually applaud them for it. But they also have financial reasons to do so as well. The
parcels joined as a whole are worth more than they are individually. They are worth
more -- more commercially than they are residentially. They have already somehow
convinced Ada County Highway District to pay commercial rates when they were selling
residential land for right of way on Eagle Road and they now wish to have commercial
rates for the rest of it as well. They are attempting to cash out selling their rural and
residentially zoned lands at commercial prices and they are basically going to leave the
neighbors in the area to deal with the aftermath of this commercial development. Last
slide, please. In closing, we have identified several standard guidelines the city uses in
approving commercial rezoning that are being violated with this annexation and
rezoning application package. First, we believe it's going to worsen an existing traffic
problem. Secondly, this is a strip-type development which is generally to be avoided.
Third, it is a commercial development surrounded by existing low density residential
neighborhoods. Fourth, it is one side of the street commercial development only. The
west side of the street is going to remaining residential. Five, we don't believe that it
has been proven that there is a compelling need for additional commercial
developments in the immediate area. Six, there is an overwhelming opposition to this
plan from both adjoining and nearby property owners. To our knowledge, not a single
homeowner, not one, has come forward saying this will be good for the neighborhood,
that what they really want, shopping options around the corner for easier convenience.
Number seven. There is an elementary school being planned right down the road that
has not been taken into consideration at this point. And, eight, it goes against Planning
and Zoning Department's own staff report recommendation from October 2005 when
this issue was first brought before the board to keep this area and develop it
residentially. We ask you to reject the commercial development plans for this corner. I
am quite confident in saying that most opposition to this development would cease if
they would decide, instead, to develop this corner with low to medium residential units.
If the Commission does not agree with our view, we would assure we will be at City
Council there once again to voice our opposition to the nature of this project. I'd like to
thank you very much for your time.
Rohm: Thank you. Wow. Before we take additional testimony -- and thank you, I --
that was very well put together as well. And I know there is other people that want to
speak, but we also need to move on tonight, too. So, what I'd like to do is as each of
you come forward, I would like you to keep your remarks to items that were not brought
up by previous testimony. If you're in support of testimony already given, that's well and
good, but if it's just going to be restating what's already been stated, then, that doesn't
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add any value to the decision-making process. So, with that being said, we will
continue taking testimony and -- but, please, keep your remarks to items that have not
previously been brought before the Commission. .
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman, I know you're working your way through the list. I would like
to ask that at the point where you feel we have heard from all the group spokesmen --
Rohm: I think we have one more.
Zaremba: Okay. After that, then, if that's not Mr. Harris, it was suggested that Mr.
Harris an alternate suggestion. My thinking would be to hear that next after we are
done with the spokesmen, before we go on to individuals.
Rohm: Okay.
Zaremba: That's a request.
Rohm: Mr. Hines, would you like to come forward, please.
Zaremba: Apparently I had the name wrong. I stand corrected.
Hines: Good evening, Commissioners. My name is Darrell Hines. I live at 3471 East
Publisher Street in Meridian. 83642. That's part of Sutherland Farms Subdivision.
And, no, I don't have that fire. Maybe I should change my presentation. Mine's pretty
soft compared to that. Let me just begin here tonight by reading a quote from one
Commissioner from the minutes of the March 16th meeting and this was addressed to
the Alliance and I quote: Conceptually, this Commission is in pretty substantial
agreement with what you have here already and it would be that additional
communication with those that are your neighbors, how you address that through your
development agreement or otherwise. Then, another quote from the Commission: We
are 99 percent on board with you. And, finally, the devil is in the details. Well, we are
those people, the neighbors, and we want to present some ideas and an alternative
concept map- Our ideas are based on the Alliance's guiding principles for positive
neighborhood development. We hope to have input on that remaining one percent, the
details. As you may recall, we opposed the CPA at the October 17th hearing, because
we felt it wrong to drop 23 acres of commercial development in the middle of our
residential neighborhoods. Our neighborhoods being what's already been stated,
Sutherland Farm to the east, Thousand Springs and Wood Haven to the west, and
Tuscany to the south and west. Your planning staff agreed with us. There is no
shortage of commercial land supply in the general area of the Alliance properties. In
fact, the most recent staff reports -- and I would just ask you to keep in mind, we haven't
had any input in this process since October 17th. So, I'm going a couple of staff reports
back. They point out -- and I know you have heard about 250 acres within a mile and a
half radius, so I won't restate that, because you asked me not to do that, so I won't go
through that. But there are other staff -- staff things that have been said consistently in
all three reports and I will review some of them later on. Commissioners, even though
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we oppose the CPA, it is apparent to us that the Commission has decided to take the
course it has and we are hear to put -- to be a part of this continuing process. We have
reviewed the March 16th meeting minutes and the extensive discussion between
Commission, your staff, and the Alliance. Even though we were quite disappointed that
we were dismissed from the March 16th discussion, that process, we are here and
ready to move on this process. The minutes reveal that the Commission was expecting
more detail on this 16th than was seen on either the Alliance's concept map or their
written application for annexation and zoning. After my personal review of the
application file, I felt exactly the same that being not enough detail, nothing much on
which to base a development agreement, which is a very important part of this process
for us. It's our guarantee. The file contained an old version of guiding principles for
development, not the revised version that we were handed on January 5th, the
neighborhood meeting which this Commission requested that the Alliance have. We
share the Commission's view that final approval of the CPA comes after a firm basis is
established on which to write a development agreement. To quote a Commissioner,
quote: I was expecting annexation and preliminary plat before we matched up with a
Comprehensive Plan amendment. That, again, is exactly what we expected also. I
hear the Commission's desire to see each specific area of this development zoned
appropriate according to what the city wants to see developed. At one time you used
exceptions to designate land use within a big zone, but I understand you no longer do
that. Following that lead, our concept map includes varied zoning within the
development to accomplish your goals and to achieve the feathering of land use
intensity as described in principle two of the Alliance's guiding principles for
development. In March the Commission seemed to be looking for suggestions for
transitioning from the Alliance's R-4 residential on the east side of their internal roadway
over to the west side of the roadway and beyond. We have provided for that transition
in our concept map. Your planning staff has recommended additional residential
zones/uses and land use buffers to insure compatibility and provide a mix of uses as is
in the intent under mixed designation. The staff states that commercial zoning should
be limited and not a majority of this mixed use development. The Alliance. The Alliance
from the beginning has expressed their desire to promote a neighbor friendly
development, which could include light office and professional buildings. However, the
designation that is pending before this Commission carries a very large and heavy
footprint. Frankly, we don't understand why the Alliance needs a designation any
greater than mixed use neighborhood, which still allows the type of development they
want to promote on their properties. Mixed use neighborhood limits residential to R-8,
which permits only single family or two family dwellings. The Alliance has on several
occasions said they have turned away buyers who want to build high density residential.
It seems like mixed use neighborhood would be all they would ever want. Finally, we
have a concept map that we believe provides a sufficient detail on which to write a
development agreement and avoid your recommendation to the Council being
remanded back for lack of clarity. We have listened closely to the Commission and your
staff and we have fully implemented the Alliance's guiding principle number two, which
reads -- and I quote -- this is an important part of it as far as we are concerned. The
quote: The development approach will be to feather land use intensity from residential
to professional office and business uses. The most intensive land use will occur along
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Eagle Road and Victory Road, with less intensive land uses farther away from the
arterials. We offer a compromise that hopefully satisfies basic needs of the
Commission, your staff, and the Alliance and the surrounding residential community. It
is not perhaps anyone's ideal, but it's a reasonable compromise. If you can project that
up, Anna. Oh, you got it. I'm sorry. First, let me just say please forgive the crude map,
but. hopefully, it tells you what we have in mind. Our concept map uses zoning to
accomplish the feathering of land use, rather than the limited zoning that you see on the
Alliance's map. They have a large C-C area that they have tried to distinguish different
types of buildings on. To me, as I listen to the Commission, through the minutes that I
read, because we weren't here and participating, it seemed like you were looking for
that same thing and that you don't -- that you like to see things done through zoning, not
through exemptions and so on. So, following that lead, this is how we came up with this
plan. What you see there on the right in the greenish yellow is the residential area that
the Alliance proposed and it doesn't say on there -- I didn't add it, they have already
proposed that for R-4. What we have added, because there seemed to be a lot of
conversation amongst the Commission about what could be done across the street,
how do you transition, and what I heard from at least a couple of Commissioners, as I
read the minutes, was that possibly some higher density residential across the street.
And that's how we would see it, too. And so our proposal would include R-8 across the
street from the R-4, which would permit single or two family units, condos or duplexes.
And, then, behind that light office, which would -- do I have a pointer?
Rohm: There should be one right there.
Zaremba: If that's not working, I think I got mine working better.
Hines: Oh. Okay. The light office that they designated was just this little corner down
here. I'm suggesting the feathering should include light office going the full distance of
the middle of this property. And also in the staff report was a mention -- there is a single
family residence to the north of here. So, keeping that in mind, it's not a development,
but just single family residents where a family lives. And with that in mind, that's why I
have included the piece that goes across the northern part here. And, then, I have
restricted the commercial and I'm suggesting C-N, rather than C-C, because I think it
allows them to do everything that they want to do. So, I'm restricting the heavier
commercial and I'm carrying out what's been suggested all along, certainly by the
Alliance, that want to feather the land use from here to here to here to here. So, I'm
adding one more as we go across there. It's really difficult for me to imagine people
buying homes here that look across at commercial and I think I heard the Commission
say that at the last hearing. You were wondering the same thing. Well, I think this
offers a solution to that. And the last thing here that I might want to mention is as we
look at the Alliance's map, that is not the map that we were given at our neighborhood
meeting. Now, I know when Mr. Thomason said that he probably had something else in
mind, but the map that was up on the overhead at that time was the latest thing that
they have submitted. What was submitted to us I'm sure is in your file. I don't know if
it's the same one or not. But it was very simple, It showed the R-4 residential a little bit
different, kind of a split down there on the lot at the bottom, but I understand why that
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changed. The rest of it all designated commercial. And it showed just entrances into a
parking area. But what we see on the Alliance's map are major roadways that,
essentially, link Publisher -- this is the street coming from Sutherland Farms that's
proposed to come in and tie into this -- this internal roadway that they have suggested,
which is fine, but it's shown as T -boning on there and that's the way it was presented to
us and I specifically asked Mr. Forrey at that neighborhood meeting, who was
representing the Alliance at that time, if there would be any direct tie between this
internal roadway, which would attach it directly to Eagle, and his specific answer to me
was, no, only if you wanted to wind your way through the parking lot. Now we see two
major roadways that do that, which is a threat to the Publisher link into our subdivision.
So, that -- we consider that a deviation from the commitment that was given to just at
that meeting that the Commission directed them to have. Also you notice we have very
limited access and I'm not suggesting this is the final result, but also if you look at the
meeting minutes on October the 17th, our first hearing, one Commissioner asked Mr.
Forrey -- he said in light of this internal roadway that you propose to construct in order
to avoid curb cuts, how many curb cuts do you anticipate in addition to that and his
direct answer was to the Commissioner who asked the question was one. But what we
see in the proposed map today is considerably different than that and that causes us
great concern. So, we think we have offered a compromise to limit. We would like to
see this smaller. I'd like to see it go away, as, obviously, Tuscany would, too. But we
are trying to deal with reality. We are trying to be compromising and we are trying to
take direction from the staff, as well and their recommendations, which they have stated
over and over, that there is no shortage of commercial. And I might just suggest -- I
think I missed a page of my notes in trying to hurry through it. You know, the statistics
that are presented by the staff have no monetary motivation and I think they deserve
special attention for that reason. They have pointed out in all three staff reports there is
not a need, there is not a need, there is not a need and this is inconsistent with the
area. And this is a compromise. Limit it. Limit. Limit. And protect the residential area.
The staff has again and again restated the need to protect the residential area. This is
dropped in the middle of thousands of homes. This has already been very clearly
stated and a point made tonight. Any questions?
Rohm: Any questions of this individual?
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman, it's not, actually, a question, but I would ask if I could
comment while he's here.
Rohm: Please do.
Zaremba: I am one of the people that you quoted and I appreciate that. And I would
also say that I am known as being supportive of wanting to consider what the Alliance
has been putting forward. But I believe I'm also the one that when this Commission
recommended to the City Council that they consider the Comprehensive Plan
amendment, I believe I'm the one that added the requirement that it wait until we really
saw what the details were before the City Council acted on it. I very much appreciate
the drawing that you have provided. That is what I expected. What you have shown is
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what I thought we were going to see from the Alliance. I would be happy to consider
what you have provided. And one of the reasons that I'm willing to consider changing
this from all residential is when you consider traffic patterns, the traffic from -- for lack of
better words, residential traffic is a push and commercial traffic is a pull. There is some
benefit in believing that the services that would be provided on these properties would
save you all from having to drive the other side of the interstate to get the services and it
could actually turn out to be a benefit. But the point that I wanted to make is if it were to
go ahead, not only with the Comprehensive Plan amendment, but also with the concept
as provided, what you are showing is what I expected and I would be very in favor of
this suggestion.
Hines: Thank you. And if I just might add one more thing, that was the comment I got
when I took this in for review with Caleb at staff. He said that would be easy to use to
write a development agreement. That's the kind of thing that we like to see, so --
Zaremba: Well -- and the other advantage, as you point out, there is only one access
on each of the -- what will be arterials.
Hines: Yes. And we put it clear at the top for what we feel is good reason. We don't
have any problem wandering through parking lots. People generally don't do that to try
to find cut-through routes. But if there is a cut-through route by road, they'll find it. And
this is directly aligned with Thousand Springs -- one of the Thousand Spring entrances.
That's why it's there. And it is one of the roadways that was shown on the original
concept map that the Alliance presented to us, which we took that to mean an entrance
into the parking lot area, not a roadway as we see shown on the Alliance's very
extensive roadway system.
Moe: Mr. Hines, one question I had for you would be -- this concept is great. What
about the south side of Victory?
Hines: Well, I'm glad you asked, because I don't have a clue, because I think, you
know, even though they are a part of the Alliance, it's separate. It's a piece they want to
make all commercial, it's completely surrounded with R-4, low density residential. It's
just kind of there. What do you do with it? It's an odd shaped piece and, personally, I
think it should be dealt with separately. I don't think it belongs in this application. I think
it should be separate. And, quite frankly, I think that's how staff feels about it, too. It's
an awkward -- what do you do with it? I really don't know. I might just say that in this
division that I have here, that's -- the way that's divided up, it's 6.4 acres of C-N, 4.7
acres of combination R-4 and R-8, and 7.3 acres of light office, for a total of 18.4. So,
it's a good -- it's a good mix, which we don't see on the other plan.
Rohm: Thank you, sir.
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman?
Rohm: Commissioner Zaremba.
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Zaremba: I would just suggest that the record note that Commissioner Borup has joined
us.
Rohm: Welcome, Commissioner Borup. There are--
Zaremba: And he's dressed very natally this evening.
Newton-Huckabay: Yes, he is.
Rohm: Should we start over? Okay. There are quite a number of other people that
have signed up for this, but, quite honestly, I think that the ones that have spoken have
addressed most of the issues, so what I'd like to do, as opposed to going through each
of the individual names, I'd like to just open it up and say if there is somebody else that
would like to speak to this, we will take them one at a time and they are welcome to
come forward.
Merical: Thank you. My name is Tonya Merical. I reside at 2994 East Tipple Avenue--
or Tipple Street in Tuscany. 83642. One thing I would just like to point out, with all of
the conversations around widening of Eagle and Victory Roads, it's my understanding
from ACHD that that is only going to be widened from the Ridenbaugh Canal through
the entrance to Tuscany and, then, it will narrow back down to a two lane road. So, the
widening is not going to have as much of an impact on the traffic. It may help us get out
of our neighborhood a little bit easier in the morning, but it's not going to be a major
arterial as was referred to earlier and that it's going to be five lanes in all directions for a
great distance. So, please, keep that in mind. Thank you.
Rohm: Thank you. Please come forward.
Ernesto: My name is Brent Ernesto, I live at 2950 East Taluka. I just wanted to also
address EMS. We have a new fire department that's been placed on South Eagle
Road. We have concerns about with the traffic congestion as far as the EMS response
time. Also, I personally, along with a couple of other people from our neighborhood,
visited virtually every residence of Tuscany yesterday and spoke with them on this topic
and it was unanimously no, that nobody wanted this to happen over there.
Rohm: Thank you.
McKibben: My name is Dennis McKibben. I reside at 2820 South Eagle Road, directly
north of the subject property. I will be short. It is commercial, you know, there. As far
as I'm concerned I'd rather have light commercial, light office, compared to any type of
residential. This map here is not a bad idea. I wouldn't care if there was an entrance
road coming down the south side of my property line. That would create a buffer for the
kennel itself. And as far as the residential against Easy Jet, there are -- the ranch over
here, that would be -- would have no complaints with that either. But as everybody is
complaining about the traffic, I don't see how this -- if it was light office is going to put
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anymore traffic on the street, compared to putting how many more subdivisions they are
going to put out there, I mean I bought there in 1988, rural area, that's what I wanted. It
changed on me. They bought here because they thought it was all residential.
Unfortunately for them, it's changing much faster. So, I'm pretty much okay with
something like this, as long as the residential is kept back away from my kennel, so I
don't think anybOdy in this room is going to want to buy a residential property within 150
feet of a commercial dog kennel. That's pretty much all I have.
Rohm: Thank you, sir.
Sharp: My name is John Sharp. I live at 3020 South Eagle Road, Meridian. I am one
of the Alliance members and I moved there in 1986 and just the complaints that the
neighbors have about people moving in and surrounding them and traffic is the same
one that I had. So, unfortunately, the problem of the traffic is the -- all of us and the
additional traffic that we put on there for this small commercial area probably isn't going
to be anymore than what the residential would be or maybe even less. This concept
plan that we had here that -- or that's suggested here, the original one we had looked a
little similar to this. It didn't have any colors on it, but we went to the planning staff and
we revised it about four times in order to get to the point we are, assuming -- or thinking
that we were doing what we were being asked to do. The connections of the roads and
the access points on there were a suggestion of the staff and Ada County Highway
District. We were following what we thought were the recommendations of everybody
that was giving us advice on this. What we had for total things of being commercial is
what we proposed to do. We met with the neighbors and worked out a compromise --
or at least what we thought was a compromise and we keep hearing things differently
and I guess if I lived next to it and it was being changed, I may have the same idea, but
we -- when they came in and moved in on us, we had the same concept and same
arrangement that they have towards us. I'm not necessarily in favor of what they have
here, but we've looked at this several times and what we have put together is what we
thought was being required of us and that the early concepts that we had, we had only
two entrances on Eagle Road and two on Victory Road for the north properties. The
southern properties we had the same thing and since they have changed to a different
concept on the parking areas and things, we've had to modify that a little bit. But
through this whole process we have tried to look at everything that we were doing and
take the advice of the planning staff as we went along and the concept we have now is
what we thought was a concept we was being asked to put togelher. Thank you.
Rohm: Thank you. As far as the applicant, I think it's probably best if the group of you
respond as a whole in rebuttal to opposing testimony and not that what you said wasn't
important, but to group all of you in a summary, which is -- you're given a ten minute
rebuttal to all the testimony probably would be the best way to do it, is to have the group
of you testify together. Sir.
Carpenter: Bob Carpenter, 3250 East Victory Road, Meridian, Idaho. Don't want to
ignore the comment you just made, but I got some stuff. I have seen red lights up there
all night, so -- currently we have four lots varying in size from .2 acres to 4.8 acres on
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that corner South Eagle Road and Victory. We have had several offers in the last 18
months to sell one or more of these lots for development similar to the previous
testimony you heard earlier tonight on Canterbury Commons, which would be
townhouses and four-plexes and things like that. It's currently a medium density R-8. In
the comp plan it's still RUT Ada County. So, it's not in Meridian. I'm of the opinion that
the proposals that we are proposing would make a lot more sense than Canterbury type
subdivisions. I thought the neighbors were of the opinion of that also, that they would
rather have a buffering of homes coming down from R-8 to R-4 and, then, going into
office and retail uses, rather than larger apartment complexes, which is what you're
going to get before you if we sell these properties separately. There is ten separate
properties involved. When we moved out there in 1990 it was rural and I have
calculated, as the one gentleman mentioned from Tuscany, there is a thousand homes
in the Tuscany part that's been proposed south of Victory Road between Eagle and
Locust Grove and Victory and Amity and, then, there is other subdivisions in there, too.
And so you calculate that out, in the nine square miles between Cloverdale and
Meridian Road and Victory Road and South Columbia, there was nine square miles, you
take two and a half houses per acre, you're going to have 36,000 people out there.
They are going to funnel up Meridian Road, Locust Grove Road, and Eagle Road and I
just think you're going to need a little more commercial than you got putting it all at the
freeway or above. So, I thought we had pretty much gone over that in the previous two
meetings. Staff had -- we thought we had come to an agreement with this and they
have recommended approval and moving on. We are ready to move on with it, but if we
can't, we are ready to sell and move out of there. That road is starting in six months.
The first of October. So, we have had the neighborhood meetings, we have met with
them, I don't have anything specifically against what Darrell is proposing there, other
than I think we have a better plan and I don't think we should need to buffer our own
residential with more residential. It doesn't make any sense. Thank you.
Rohm: Thank you, sir.
Baird: Mr. Chair?
Rohm: Mr. Baird.
Baird: If I could reiterate what -- the point that you just made is that in order to provide
for an orderly hearing, we do need to hear from all of the residents first before we hear
the rebuttal from the applicant. If we start getting a back and forth, we are going to be
here all night. So, I know that's the point you're trying to make and so if there are any
other members of the Alliance, they will have their opportunity to rebut after we have
heard everybody else.
Rohm: And well said.
Baird: No harm done, but --
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Rohm: Yeah. Okay. Is there anybody else that would like to speak to this application?
I'm pretty sure we are there, but -- and thank you for your comments to Mr_ Carpenter.
With that being said, what I'm going to do is I'm going to give the last time slot to Marty
Thompson -- Thomason to d any concluding remarks that you would like to make in
reference to all testimony --
Baird: Mr. Chair? And, again, sorry to interrupt. Getting -- before we take the final
testimony from the applicants, I do think we need to revisit the issue of whether we need
to continue this hearing. During the testimony I have concurred with staff -- conferred
with staff, I have looked at our CZC or our -- I'm sorry, our UDC with regards to hearing
notice and I do believe that because of the way this application has changed, we do
have a defect that needs to be cured before you make your decision. It specifically
mentions that the notice is to provide a summary of the application that is to be heard
before the Planning and Zoning Commission and if you were to summarize the three
districts that you have before you now, as compared to what they originally were, it may
not be that much of a change of intensity, but it is a different nature of use that needs to
be properly noticed before you make your decision. Not trying to have additional delay,
but that also might give Commissioner Borup the opportunity to review the minutes from
tonight's meeting, so he can participate in your final decision. So, if you are inclined to
take our recommendation to continue this, so that the matter can be property re-noticed,
I would encourage you to take the concluding comments from the applicant at that next
hearing.
Rohm: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Baird. I appreciate what you're saying. Basically, what it
boils down to is we are going to need to continue this, because of the application taking
on a little different characteristic from the zoning perspective and all of the testimony
that's been heard tonight is -- should be responded to In your concluding remarks. So, I
think that what I would like to see is a continuance only to provide the adjustment to the
zoning application and to hear your concluding remarks in response to -- as a rebuttal.
And we would not at that time take any additional public testimony, but your responses
to testimony already received. Can we do that, Mr. Baird?
Baird: Mr. Chair and Members of the Commission, you would be obligated to hear
testimony from the public for those who may be affected by the change in the nature of
the application. However, I do want to reiterate that everybody that's spoken tonight,
the testimony is valid, it's on the record, we are not going to starl again. There is no
reason to have to re-testify. I think everybody tonight has -- your testimony has been
well received.
Rohm: And I guess we will address that at the time that we reopen it and just limit
testimony to the change in application for rezone and that alone.
Baird: And those affected by it, yes.
Rohm: Those affected by it. Okay. So with --
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Newton-Huckabay: Mr. Chair, may I ask a question?
Rohm: Absolutely.
Newton-Huckabay: So, Mr. Baird, are you saying with certainty if we were to close this
Public Hearing and move it on to City Council, that a notice for the City Council hearing
will not be legally sufficient on this -- my concern is this: This is, I think, the third or
fourth time that we have looked at this. I think everybody -- the property Alliance and
the homeowners need to get their day before the Council and so I'm just concerned that
we just keep delaying and everybody has to get up and testify again.
Baird: Thank you, Members of the Commission and Commissioner Newton-Huckabay.
I do empathize with you and, in fact, that's why initially I was leaning towards looking for
some way to cure the defect that we have here. It's a procedural due process issue.
It's a technical legal issue, and our advice to both this Commission and City Council is
always the most conservative advice to cure any potential defect before moving
forward. You are free to ignore my advice and act otherwise, but, you know, we are
here to protect everybody's interest and to make sure that these things are clean. And I
don't think that we will need to hear from everybody else again and I'm encouraging the
people who are here tonight and who have spoken and whose points have been made
to leave that record be as it is. I -- frankly, I don't expect that many additional people to
be surprised by the new notice, but as a legal matter it is different. The way I'm
interpreting the code we do need to proceed in that fashion. In talking with the planning
director, we can't think of an instance where there has been something of this nature
that we have attempted to cure it on its way to City Council and I'd hate to set a
precedent tonight.
Rohm: Okay. With that being said, I guess my question of you is when do you perceive
that you can have -- be ready to re-notice with the proposed new zoning designations?
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman, before he answers that question, I would ask that we have
some discussion on what it is we are proposing him to change.
Newton-Huckabay: Yes. I agree.
Zaremba: And I think that will be appropriate for this meeting before we continue it,
rather than to have to keep -- I don't want to keep giving them one change every time
we see them.
Newton-Huckabay: Yeah.
Zaremba: I think we need to get it all on the table based on the public testimony that we
have just heard and, then, let the applicant move forward with considering all the
changes that we have discussed.
Rohm: Would you care to take a stab at it, Commissioner Zaremba?
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Newton-Huckabay: Mr. Chair -- Mr. Chair, can I ask one more question?
Rohm: Absolutely.
Newton-Huckabay: If we do that, then, are we not obligating ourselves, because we
have made suggestions beyond the zoning designation, to have to reopen the
opportunity for everybody to testify again on the changes, because, then, we bring in --
and don't get me wrong, I appreciate the alternative proposal and I think -- I think that's
wonderful that that was put forth, but to comment on that and all of the testimony
tonight, are we -- do you understand what I'm saying? I can't see how we can just open
up the hearing and forward it on. So, I'm just kind of unclear on whether or not -- I mean
I thought that the requirements had been met. So, Mr. Thomason, on that I --
Thomason: Thank you.
Newton-Huckabay: -- I believe that you guys -- I had believed originally you had done
what you were asked to do. I guess what I would just like to see is how -- how we can
most quickly get this on to City Council and they can -- because, in essence, it is setting
some -- a bit of a precedent and I think it's something that's going to come through --
this type of thing is going to occur again and again as density gets so -- so thick in these
outlying areas. So, I guess that's a question I need answered_
Rohm: Wow. That's a good question. Personally, what I kind of felt was the answer to
that question is the applicant is going to have an opportunity in his submittal for rezone
to take into consideration the public testimony that he's heard tonight and in that
application for the specific zone changes to incorporate into your -- in your application
the comments received from the public and whether you concur with their specific
recommended changes to the zoning or if you come up with something that's an
alternative to that and, then, you will be responding to all the testimony that's been
received and we would, then, only be addressing that application as amended.
And that's -- that seems logical to me, because that's just your response to public
testimony. But that's as I perceived it.
Thomason: If I might make a comment, without stealing my rebuttal thunder later, our
concept map is one that it takes into account all parties involved and I appreciate
Darrell's comments and his attempt at a concept map for us, but our concept map
involves discussions with Ada County Highway District, multiple discussions with the
planning staff, multiple discussions amongst the Alliance members, conversations that
Wayne had with property developers, commercial developers, and so forth, and we
thought we had a compromise map where we already put in a residential buffer and,
again, from Bob's standpoint. his comments, why do we have to buffer our own
residential again? And it limits our opportunities when we offer this up for sale. We--
our map is a compromise already. We went from mixed use regional to mixed use
community, adding in residential, adding in light office. Yes, it's not what the existing
property owners behind us want, but what they are suggesting is not what we want.
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That's what compromise is, is that you come as close together as you can and I'm
having a hard time understanding that if the only way you're going to approve it is if we
come back with the plan that Darrell presented, that doesn't take into account all of the
other discussions that we have already had with other members and other entities. Our
~- I get what you're saying about the legal issue. I don't speak for the entire Alliance
group when I say this comment, because this wasn't rehearsed beforehand and agreed
upon, but it's unlikely that we will come back with a different map. The map that we
have submitted is the one we are willing to compromise on at this point. And so I don't -
~ again, I don't want to steal my thunder, but I want to make that clear. Yes, we have
heard these comments and I hear them, I have empathy for them. The fact is is that we
are making a compromise and so the plan we are going to resubmit is the one that we
have -- I say this without the Alliance agreeing to it, but this is our -- my feelings at this
point. So, what we need here is, I guess, the clear direction that a new annexation
application gets submitted with the documentation that supports the three zones that we
have proposed and, then, we come to another meeting here, anybody who hasn't
spoken gets to speak, and, then, I have the opportunity to deal with any rebuttal issues
on that and, then, the decision is in the power broker's hands as to whether we move
forward or not. Is that what I'm hearing?
Rohm: I believe that encapsulates what we would like to direct --
Moe: Mr. Chairman, I just want to go kind of on record to make you understand that we
are not suggesting that you have to take any of the testimony this evening and make
changes to what you are wanting to do. It's just the point that you do have to come
back to us with the zoning change and whatnot. We want you to consider what was
discussed this evening. If you do, you don't, that's entirely up to you. Just come back
forward with the new zoning request.
Thomason: Okay. Thank you.
Moe: I wanted to make sure you understood that we are not trying to tell you which way
to go at all.
Thomason: Okay. Thank you.
Baird: And, Mr. Chair, if I could further clarify his concept of what's going to happen at
the next meeting, The planning director pointed out to me that, really, the only
significant change is the addition of the residential component. The L-O and the C-C
are similar enough that we have heard everything on that. What we haven't heard is
anybody who was affected by the addition of the residential. So, the recommendation is
that testimony would only be heard on that matter, which is going to significantly limit
the length of the next hearing.
Rohm: Hopefully so. Thank you, sir. Okay. Just a date certain. We are still looking --
it looks to me like either the 4th or the 18th. I don't think they -- can they get everything
through by the 4th? Tara? 18th.
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April 20. 2006
Page 48 of 88
Thomason: May 18th.
Rohm: May 18th. Would that work for you?
Thomason: Yes. Thank you.
Rohm: Thank you, sir. Okay.
Newton-Huckabay: Mr. Chair?
Rohm: Commissioner Newton-Huckabay.
Newton-Huckabay: Can I make a motion now?
Rohm: Absolutely.
Newton-Huckabay: I will. Okay, Mr. Chair?
Rohm: Commissioner Newton-Huckabay.
Newton-Huckabay: Director Canning, do you -- you look like you have something that
you want to add before I --
Canning: Commissioners -- Chairman Rohm, Commissioners, I'm not sure that it
wouldn't be appropriate to have the conversation tonight, since we have come this far.
If there are changes you want, then, he should know now. He can decide if he wants to
not change it, but I'm not sure that it wouldn't be appropriate to give him direction now,
rather than waiting until the 18th to give further direction. I think it -- Commissioner
Newton-Huckabay, you expressed a concern that we are just having him change one
thing every time. This would be your opportunity to express to the applicant any
changes you want to see. We are going to re-notice it. Hopefully, we could wrap it up
that night.
Newton-Huckabay: Actually, that was Commissioner Zaremba's statement. Two times
I have seen what I thought I was going to see come before this Commission regarding
this application. So, I have nothing further to add on it myself -- is regarding whether or
not to forward it on to City Council. I mean I -- I don't know what would be -- specifically
need to be added, Are you talking about like the layout of the zoning and -- that
specifically or --
Canning: Chairman Rohm, Commissioner Newton-Huckabay, if all the Commissioners
are comfortable with what they have presented, then, they might want to hear that. But
I think that now is the opportunity to have the discussion, so that we can tie this all up
on the 18th. But that's all I was encouraging the Commission to do. I'm not trying to
direct you in what those comments should be, I just would like to have the discussion.
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April 20, 2006
Page 49 of 88
Newton-Huckabay: Right. I guess is what I'm saying is that each time we have ended
one of these hearings I have thought that everyone has come back with what our
expectations were. I feel like both times I thought the expectations that we laid out were
met and I kind of get the feeling that before we are done we are going to have
developed this property and I would just like to get it on to City Council and -- we don't
know how they are going to act on something like this and I feel like we are -- I would
just like to see closure for all parties involved, an idea of how the city is going to handle
this type of situation, because I don't think it's the last time we are going to see this type
of thing. And I will say nothing else.
Borup: Mr. Chairman, just continuing on, Commissioner mentioned that the only thing
we are really looking at is zoning designation and the areas that's been designated for
those zones; is that correct? We are not -- we are not looking at access points or
anything else. That's all going to have to be approved by ACHD and a further staff
report when a plat comes before us. So, it's -- I mean we are spending a lot of time
talking about that kind of stuff and I think that's very important. I'm going to be very
interested in that at the proper time. But at this point we are just nothing more than just
the three zones and if those locations are appropriate. Is there anything more
complicated than that?
Rohm: I think that pretty well captures it. So, I think the bottom line is -- is I think the
applicant needs to take into consideration public testimony in his re-app and if he -- if
the association still conceptually believes that their proposed layout with the re-app
depicting the three zones is what they want to -- as their proposal, that's well within their
province and it's not this Commission's position to tell them how to formulate their re-
app and there is -- I don't believe that there is anything that this Commission has seen
from the application that is conceptually offensive from our perspective and how they
adjust to public testimony is up to them. That's kind of the way I capture or--
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman, I made the alternate opinion on that and even though I'm very
supportive of considering that this group of properties might not be all residential as
previously established and that I'm very much in favor of appreciating that this is an
Alliance of people, we keep saying it's easier to put together big properties than it is to
deal with small ones. I still feel that in the discussion with Mr. Forrey, what he described
is much closer to the alternate that was proposed and -- which is why we needed to see
the concept. I realize a concept is just a concept, it's not a plat, it's not etched in stone,
it's variable, but it is an assumption of how that property is going to develop and I am
not supportive of all those accesses, even as a concept. I am supportive of even if it
had to be four different zones and I may be the only one, but I would suggest to the
applicant -- my full support would be behind something much closer to the alternate
proposal.
Rohm: And that being said --
Zaremba: And I may be in a minority, so that's fine.
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April 20, 2006
Page 50 of 88
Rohm: Fair enough. I think that we are ready for a motion. Commissioner
Newton-Huckabay, I think you got started and, then, we got kind of side-tracked. Would
you like to make another stab, please.
Newton-Huckabay: So, we are continuing to the 18th of May?
Rohm: Yes.
Newton-Huckabay: Okay. After considering all staff, applicant, and public testimony, I
move to continue file number AZ 06-008 to the hearing date of May 18th, 2006, for the
following reasons -- and that's so that the applicant can modify their annexation request
to include the residential; correct?
Zaremba: And re-notice.
Newton-Huckabay: And re-notice the property and we will only be taking public
testimony at that hearing on May 18th regarding the addition of the residential piece. All
other testimony received tonight will continue onto that point.
Borup: Second.
Newton-Huckabay: End of motion.
Rohm: Good. It's been moved and seconded that we continue the continued Public
Hearing of AZ 06-008 to the regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning and Zoning
Commission for the date of May 18th, 2006. All those in favor say aye. Opposed same
sign? Motion carried. And thank you all for coming in.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Rohm: Okay.
Newton-Huckabay: May we take a break?
Rohm: Well, I'm going to -- we will talk about where we want to make the break,
because we are not going to get through the entire agenda and I don't want to stay until
3:00 o'clock tonight, so --
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman? We are allowed, I believe, even now, to rearrange the
agenda. Would there be any value in asking if the majority of the remainder of people
are here for one issue and deal with that one out of order?
Rohm: I'm not opposed to that. Quite honestly, I think we are getting so -- we are
getting to a point that we got have to do something a little differently, because what we
have been doing in the past isn't working any longer.
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DESCRlPTlON
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This description is for the C-C ZONE as shown on the Eagle Alliance Map which is a
parcel ofland located in the SW1/4 of the SWl/4 Section 21 and the NWl/4 of the NW1I4
Section 28 Township 3 North Range 1 East Bosie Meridian Ada County, Idaho and more
particularly described as follows:
Commencing at the south east comer of said Section 21 T3N Rl E BM, which is the True
Point of BegiIUling for the description;
Thence NO.OO'17"W along the west boundary of said Section 21 a distance of 1023.12
feet;
Thence S89.25' 49"E for a distance of 667.16 feet to the centerline of a proposed street;
Thence along a curve with a radius of 400 feet, a central angle of 6'52'55", a long chord
bearing of 83. 26' 45"E and a long chord length of 48.02 feet;
Thence continuing along the centerline SO. 0' 17"E a distance of 530.92 feet;
Thence along a curve with a radius of 180 feet, a central angle of 37034'45", a long chord
bearing ofS1S" 47' 06"W and a long chord length of 115.95 feet;
Thence continuing along the centerline 837.34' 28"W a distance of 105.49 feet;
Thence along a curve with a radius of 180 feet, a central angle of 3 7'10'21", a long chord
bearing ofSI80 59' 18"Wand a long chord length of 114.74 feet;
Thence continuing along the centerline 80.24' 07"W a distance of 139.47 feet to the
south boundary of section 21;
Thence SO'30' S9"W a distance of 167.00 feet;
Thence S 18919' 49"W a distance of 170.00 feet;
Thence N89035' 54"W a distance of 336.72 feet;
Thence S0031' IO"W a distance of339.13 feet;
Thence N30.09' 49"W a distance of 277.25 feet to the west boWldary of Section 28;
Thence along the west boundary of Section 28 NO.32' 39"E a distance of 429.15 feet and
back to the point of begirming.
Said parcel contains some 19.41 acres, more of less.
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DESCRIPTION
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This description is for the L-O ZONE as shown on the Eagle Alliance Map which
is a parcel ofland located in the SW1I4 of the SWl/4 Section 21 Township 3 North
Range 1 East Bosie Meridian Ada County, Idaho and more particularly described as
follows:
Commencing at the south east comer of said Section 21 T3N RIE BM, Thence
SS9035'55"E along the south boundary of said Section 21 a distance of 530.00 feet which
is the Troe Point of Beginning for the description;
Thence NOo24'07"B along the centerline of a proposed road a distance of 139.47 feet;
Thence along a curve with a radius of 180 feet. a central angle of 3 7"10'21". a long chord
bearing ofN1S" 59' 18"E and a long chord length of 114.74 feet;
Thence 852"25' 31 liE a distance of25.00 feet to the easterly right of way line of said
road;
Thence S89"33' SOliE a distance of211.87 feet to the westerly boundary of Sutherland
Farms Subdivision;
Thence SO"OO'17/1W a distance of233.00 feet to the southerly boundary of Section 21;
Thence N89"35' 55"W along said southerly boundary a distance of270.02 feet and back
to the point of beginning,
Said parcel contains some 1.43 acres, more of less.
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This description is for the R4 ZONE as shown on the Eagle Alliance Map which
is a parcel ofland located in the SW1I4 of the SW1I4 Section 21 Township 3 North
Range 1 East Bosie Meridian Ada County, Idaho and more particularly described as
follows:
Commencing at the south east comer of said Section 21 T3N RIE BM, Thence
NO"OO'17"W along the west boUDdaryofsaid Section 21 a distance of 1023.12 feet;
Thence 889025' 49"E for a distance of 667.16 feet to the centerline of a proposed street
which is the True Point of Beginning for the description;
Thence along a curve with a radius of 400 feet, a central angle of 6" 52'55", a long chord
bearing of 83. 26' 4S"E and a long chord length of 48.02 feet;
Thence continuing along the centerline 80" 0' I7"E a distance of 530.92 feet;
Thence along a curve with a radius of 180 feet, a cen1ral angle of 37"34'45", a long chord
bearing ofS1S" 47' 06"W and a long chord length of 115,95 feet;
Thence continuing along the centerline 837"34' 28"W a distance of 105.49 feet;
Thence SS2"25' 31"E a distance of2S.00 feet to the easterly right of way line of said
road;
Thence 889033' SO"E a distance of211.87 feet to the westerly boundary of Sutherland
Farms Subdivision;
Thence NO"00'17"W a distance of 787.77 feet;
Thence NS9"2S'49"W a distance of 132.88 feet and back to the point of beginning.
Said parcel contains some 2.55 acres, more of less.
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MERIDIAN PLANNING & ZONING MEETING
APPLICANT South Eagle and Victory Road Property Owners Alliance
ITEM NO.
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REQUEST Continued Public Hearing from March 16, 2006: Annexation and Zoning of
23.29 acres from RUT to C-C zone for South Eagle and Victory Road Property Owners
Alliance - east side of Eagle Road on both the north and south sides of. Victory Road
AGENCY
COMMENTS
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CITY OF MERIDIAN PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFF REPORT FOR THE HEARING DATE OF APRIL 20, 2006
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AnnexatlOn and Zorung of 23.39 acres from RUT (Ada Cotmty, tiYe~C ' , . '. ;-' .
(Community Business District), by the South Eagle Road and Victory Road
Property Owner's Alliance*
Planning & Zoning Commission
STAFF REPORT
TO:
FROM:
Hearing Date: 4/20/06
1. SUMMARY DESCRIPTION OF APPLICANT'S REQUEST
* The applicant, the South Eagle Road and Victory Road Property Owner's Alliance, submitted
an application for Annexation and Zoning (AZ) to C-C (Community Business District) for 23.39
acres of property currently zoned RUT in Ada County. NOTE: Between the time of submittal of
the allllexation application and this hearing, the applicant has provided staff with legal
descriptions for three zones. The applicant is proposing to zone 19.41 acres of the site to C-C.
2.55 acres of the site to L-O. and 1.43 acres of the site to R-4.
The Alliance is comprised of five different property owners (who own ten individual tax parcels)
on the east side of S. Eagle Road, generally grouped north and south of the intersection of S.
Eagle and Victory Road. This site is currently rural residential with several single~farnily homes
and accessory buildings. The applicant is not proposing any land use, development or
subdivision at this time. Instead, the applicant is proposing to annex the property with
Development Agreement provisions that would guide future development of this property. The
applicant has submitted a Concept Map for the subject property. The subject property is within
the Urban Service Planning Area.
In 2005, the South Eagle Road and Victory Road Property Owner's Alliance (represented by
Wayne S. Forrey), applied for an amendment to the Future Land Use Map of the Comprehensive
Plan (CPA-05-00l). The Alliance proposed to amend the Map designation from Low and
Medium Density Residential to Mixed Use-Regional for approximately 50 acres of hmd. The
CPA application proposed to amend an additional 30 acres of land north of the Alliance's land
holdings, including two other county parcels and several parcels in the city limits that lie within
Sutherland Farms and Southstone Subdivisions. Staff recommended denial of CPA-05-0ll.
However, at the October 17, 2005, Planning & Zoning Commission public hearing for the CPA,
the Commission voted to recommend approval of the subject CPA with the following provisions:
1) That the new Map designation be Mixed Use - Community, not Mixed Use - Regional; 2)
Recording a Development Agreement which binds the applicant to the commitments listed in the
document called "Guiding Principles for Positive Neighborhood Development"; 3) Wait on [mal
action on the CPA until an alUlexation application has been submitted; and, 4) Hold a
neighborhood meeting.
As requested by the Commission, the Alliance has submitted an allllexation application (although
not required by the Commission, the Alliance has not submitted a preliminary plat, conditional
use pennit, or any other concurrent development application). The subject annexation application
includes just over 23 of the 50 acres that were a part of the CPA application (only those properties
which the members own). Prior to submitting the annexation application, the Alliance held a
neighborhood meeting with property owners in the surrounding area. The applicant has re-
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submitted the "Guiding Principles for Positive Neighborhood Development" for inclusion within
a Development Agreement.
2. SUMMARY RECOMMENDATION
The subject Armexation and Zoning application was submitted to the Planning Department for
review. By City Ordinance, the Planning & Zoning Commission makes recommendation to the
Council on Armexation and Zoning applications. Any comments related to the Armexation
application (AZ-06-008) will be included in the Commission's recommendation to the Council.
Staff is recommending: approval of the South Eagle and Victory Road Property Owner's Alliance
Armexation (AZ-06-008). with a Development Ag:reement for this proiect.
3. PROPOSED MOTION (to be considered after the public hearing)
Approval
After considering all staff, applicant and public testimony, I move to recommend approval to the
City Council of File Number AZ-06-008 as presented in the staff report for the hearing date of
April 20, 2006, with the following modifications to the proposed development agreement: (add
any proposed modifications.)
Denial
After considering all staff, applicant and public testimony, I move to recommend denial to the
City Council of File Number AZ.06-008 as presented in the staff report for the hearing date of
April 20, 2006, for the following reasons: (you should state specific reasons for denial of the
annexation request.)
Continuance
After considering all staff, applicant and public testimony, I move to continue File Number AZ-
06-008 to the hearing date of (insert continued hearing date here) for the following reason(s):
(you should state specific reason(s) for continuance.)
4. APPLICATION AND PROPERTY FACTS
a. Site Address/Location: 3210 S. Eagle Road, 3020 S Eagle Road, 2990 S. Eagle Road, 2960 S.
Eagle Road, and 3250 E. Victory Road. The parcels north of Victory Road lie within
Township 3N, Range IE, Section 21. The parcel south of Victory Road lies within Township
3N, Range IE, Section 28. All properties are on the east side of S. Eagle Road.
b. Property Owners of Record (Alliance members):
Marty and Leeta Thomason (2910 & 2960 S. Eagle Rd.)
Daniel and Dolly Baughman (2990 S. Eagle Rd.)
John and Nita Sharp (3020 S. Eagle Rd.)
Robert and Nedra Carpenter (3060 S. Eagle Rd. & 3250 E. Victory Rd.)
Mark Hartenstein representing Charles Axelrod (3210 S. Eagle Rd.)
c. Applicant:
South Eagle Road and Victory Road Property Owner's Alliance
3100 S. Eagle Rd.
Meridian, Idaho 83642
d. Representative: Marty Thomason
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e. Present Zoning: RUT/Ada County (all Alliance member parcels)
f Present Comprehensive Plan Designation: Medium and Low Density Residential (proposed
for Mixed Use - COlIllllunity with CP A-05-00l)
g. Description of Applicant's Request:
23.39 acres from RUT to C-C.
h. Applicant's Statement/Justification (see Applicant's application and letter): Wayne Forrey,
representing the Alliance, states in the application cover memo that the Alliance property
owners have applied for, and been approved pending submission of this annexation
application, an amendment to the Future Land Use Map of the Comprehensive Plan. There are
currently no developers involved with the property owners and no projects have been proposed
to the Alliance members. This annexation request is the result of the motion made by
Commissioners Newton~Huckabay, Borup, and Zaremba during the October 17, 2005
Meridian P&Z special meeting.
The applicant is requesting annexation approval of
5. PROCESS FACTS
a. The subject application will in fact constitute an annexation as detennined by City Ordinance.
By reason of the provisions of the Meridian City Code Title 11 Chapter 5, a public hearing is
required before the City Council on this matter.
b. Newspaper notifications published on: February 27,2006 and March 13,2006
c. Radius notices mailed to properties within 300 feet on: February 22, 2006
d. Applicant posted notice on site by: March 7, 2006
6. LAND USE
a. Existing Land Use(s): There are existing homes, limited office/retail businesses, and other
outbuildings on the subject site.
b. Description of Character of Surrounding Area: The ilIllllediate vicinity is transitioning
rapidly to urban-scale development. The I-84/Eagle Road interchange is less than a mile to the
north and has a significant influence on the area. Thousand Springs and Sutherland Farms
Subdivisions are adjacent to the subject property and both ofthese residential developments
are annexed, averaging 3.5 to 4 dwelling units per acre with mid-to-high end housing. A new
Meridian Fire substation is being constructed just south of the Ridenbaugh Canal on the west
side of Eagle Road. As one travels south from Overland Road, the El Dorado and Silverstone
mixed use developments are currently being built-out, intended to serve as regional
employment, hospitality, office and service centers with more than two million square feet of
building area expected between the two projects. Traffic generated from the Tuscany Lakes
project on the south side of Victory Road (approx. 450 units) also strongly impacts S. Eagle
Road in this area.
c. Adjacent Land Use and Zoning:
1. North: Approved Silverstone Subdivision, zoned C-G (General COlIllllercial)
2. East: Approved Sutherland Farms Subdivision, zoned R-4 (north of Victory Rd.)
and Golden Eagle Estates, zoned RUT/Ada County (south of Victory Rd.)
3. South: Approved senior assisted living facility, zoned R-8 (south of Falcon Dr.) and
rural residential in Golden Eagle Estates, zoned RUT (Ada County)
4. West: Existing Thousand Springs Subdivision, zoned R-4/Meridian City, and rural
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residential, zoned RUT/Ada County near Victory Road. Medford
Subdivision (proposed as R-8 for single and multi-family) is proposed at the
southwest comer of Eagle and Victory Roads.
d. History of Previous Actions: As mentioned above, the subject property is part of the
recent request to amend the Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use Map designation of this
area (CPA-05-001). The Comprehensive Plan Amendment is on the City Council agenda for
May 2nd, 2006.
e. Existing Constraints and Opportunities:
1. Public Works
Location of sewer: Sewer is constructed in Sutherland Farms Subdivision stub
streets adjacent to the property north of Victory Road. This property drains to
the Five Mile Trunk: and capacity is available. The property to the north of
Victory would drain to the mains extended through the Tuscany
Development.
Location of water: Available in S. Eagle Road and local streets
2. Vegetation: There are numerous existing trees on the subject properties that should
either be preserved or mitigated for at the time of development. The rest of the site is
primarily used for rural residential purposes.
3. Flood plain: N/ A
4. Canals/Ditches Irrigation: The McDonald Lateral courses across the Carpenter
parcels at the northeast comer of the EagleNictory intersection. This is a sizeable
facility that may impact future development site plans on these parcels.
5. Hazards: Staff is not aware of any potential hazards on this site.
6. Proposed Zoning: C-C for all 23.39 acres. However, the submitted Concept Map
shows R-4 and L-O zoned property. Consistent with the mixed use designation, the
submitted Concept Map, and the adjacent developments, staff is recommending that
portions of this site be zoned for residential, commercial and office uses.
7. Size of Property: 23.39 acres
f. Summary of Proposed Streets and/or Access: Although no development is proposed at this
time, the submitted Concept Map (revised) shows a north. south access road located near the
east boundary. Staff is supportive of the general location ofthis road, and the extension of E.
Publisher Road from Sutherlund Farms. There are four accesses shown on the Concept Map to
Eagle Road, and four accesses shown to Victory Road. Staff believes that this is too many
access points to the adjacent roadway system, and recommends that access points be limited
(please see Analysis below).
g. Landscaping:
1. Width of street buffer(s): Per City Code (UDC Table 11-2B-3), a 25.foot wide
landscape street buffer is required adjacent to Eagle Road and Victory Road, which
are both arterial roadways.
2. Width ofbuffer(s) between land uses: Per City Code (UDC Table 11-2B-3) a 25-
foot wide landscape buffer is required between C-C zoned properties and residential
uses/zones.
h. Required Commercial Standards: C-C
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Setbacks
Landscape (Local/Commercial Street)
Arterial Road (Eagle & Victory)
Collector Street
Maximum Building Height
Proposed Required
NA 10'
NA 25'
NA 20'
NA 50'
7. COMMENTS MEETING
On February 2,2006, a joint agency and departments meeting was held with service providers in
this area. The agencies and departments present include: Meridian Fire Department, Meridian
Parks Department, Meridian Public Works Department, and the Sanitary Services Company. The
Meridian Fire Department was the only department or agency to provide comments. These
comments are "standard" and have not been included as conditions of annexation. Once a
development planes) is submitted staff will provide the applicant with specific comments and
conditions from all commenting agencies and departments. NOTE: Public Works staff did
recommend that the applicant be required to contact the Boise Project Board of Control to see if
they have any concerns with the proposal. Staff is recommending that the applicant contact the
Board to see what, if any comments they have at this time.
8. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES AND GOALS
This property is currently designated "Medium Density Residential" and "Low Density
Residential" on the Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use Map. However, in October of 2005, the
Planning & Zoning Commission voted to recommend approval of a Comprehensive Map
Amendment (CPA) to change the designation of this property to "Mixed Use - Community."
Staff is evaluating the subject annexation request under the assumption that this area will obtain a
mixed use designation (CPA-05-00l is on the May 2nd, 2006 City Council agenda). In Chapter
VII of the Comprehensive Plan, the mixed use designation is defined in part as an area that is
situated in highly visible or transitioning parts of the City where innovative and flexible design
opportunities are encouraged. The Mixed Use - Community designation allows residential
density between 3 and 15 dwelling units per acre, up to 200,000 square feet of non-residential
building area, and is intended to allow a broad range of uses.
Staff finds the following Comprehensive Plan policies to be applicable to this property and apply
to the subject property (staff analysis in italics below policy):
. Require that development projects have planned for the provision of all public services.
(Chapter VII, Goal III, Objective A, Action 1)
When the City established its Area of City Impact, it planned to provide City services to the
subject property. The City of Meridian plans to provide municipal services to the lands
proposed to be annexed in the following manner:
. Sanitary sewer and water service will be extended to the project at the
developer's expense.
. The subject lands currently lie within the jurisdiction of the Meridian Rural Fire
District. Once annexed the lands will be under the jurisdiction of the Meridian
City Fire Department, who currently shares resource and personnel with the
Meridian Rural Fire Department.
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· The subject lands currently lie within the jurisdiction of the Ada County Sheriff's
Office. Once annexed the lands will be serviced by the Meridian Police
Department (MPD).
· The roadways adjacent to the subject lands are currently owned and maintained
by the Ada County Highway District (ACHD). This service will not change.
· The subject lands are currently serviced by the Meridian School District #2. This
service will not change.
· The subject lands are currently serviced by the Meridian Library District. This
service will not change and the Meridian Library District should suffer no
revenue loss as a result of the subject annexation.
Municipal, fee-supported, services will be provided by the Meridian Building Department,
the Meridian Public Works Department, the Meridian Water Department, the Meridian
Wastewater Department, the Meridian Planning Department, Meridian Utility Billing
Services, and Sanitary Services Company.
· "Protect existing residential properties from incompatible land use development on adjacent
parcels." (Chapter VII, Goal IV, Objective C, Action 1)
This policy touches on one of the primary objectives of zoning - to protect the public health
and welfare. It is the City's obligation to ensure existing properties (both county and city
properties) are protected from harmful, disturbing or unnecessary encroachments. While it
may be possible to design non-residential projects that are compatible with residential, it
does require more time, energy and money from all parties involved (both private and public)
to design and enforce these situations.
The applicant is proposing a commercial zone adjacent to proposed and established
residential areas. There are existing homes in Sutherland Farms to the east of the subject
site, south (Golden Estates), and north (County parcel). Staff finds that to protect the existing
single-family homes to the east and north, certain restrictions on this development should be
formulated. The applicant has written into the proposed DA provisions a requirement that
Alliance properties located next to the residential uses in Sutherland Farms will provide
either a residential buffer with the same size lots, or a 40 foot wide landscape buffer. Staff
has used the Guiding Principles provided by the Alliance as a base for a DA, which is
detailed in the Analysis section below.
· "Allocate and identify locations/inventory for industrial and commercial business parks."
(Chapter IV, Action 3, Objective C)
Staff believes that the proposed proportion of commercial zoning to residential zoning for
this property is not appropriate. Staff believes that additional residential and or office zoning
should be allotted to limit commercial zoning. Staff also believes that there is already an
adequate amount of built and/or planned commercial land supply in this area. The
Commission and Council should rely on any pubic testimony provided when determining if
the proposed zoning is appropriate for this property.
· "Permit new. . .commercial developments only where urban services can be reasonably
provided at the time of final approval and development is contiguous to the City." (Chapter
IV, Goal I, Objective A, Action 6)
Municipal water, solid waste and other services exist to this area of Meridian.
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· "Locate new community commercial areas on arterials. . .near residential areas in such a way
as to complement with adjoining residential areas." (Chapter VII, Goal III, Objective D,
Action 3)
Both Eagle Road and Victory Road are designated arterial roadways. Based on the volume
of phone calls staff has taken from neiflhbors in this area that are concerned with the amount
of commercial beinfl vrovosed. and the uncertain tv of what uses mav be constructed on this
site. staff is unable to find that the sub;ect avvlication will comvlement, rather than conflict
with. the adioininfl residential areas. Especially, staff has a dffJicult time envisioning how the
development of the parcel on the south side of Victory Road will complement the nearby
residences. The adjacent properties are designated low density residential and no transition
of zoning or uses is proposed by the applicant. Staff believes that a C-C zone is too intense
for the parcel south of Victory Road. Staff recommends that the Commission and Council rely
on any public testimony provided when determining if the subject annexation and zoning, and
subsequent development will complement the adjoining residential areas.
. "Restrict curb cuts and access points on collectors and arterial streets." (Chapter VII, Goal
IV, Objective D, Action 2)
The Alliance is proposing four access points to Eagle Road and four access points to Victory
Road. Both Eagle Road and Victory Road are designated arterial roadways. Stqff is
recommending that access points be restricted to both Eagle Road and Victory Road. Staff is
not supportive of the proposed access point locations to Eaflle Road and Victory Road. Staff
recommends that access to this site be vrimarilv vrovided bv the future internal
roadwav/drivewav svstem and not EafIle Road and Victory Road when this vrovertv develovs.
See Analysis below.
. "Review new development for appropriate opportunities to connect to local roads and
collectors in adjacent developments." (Chapter VI, Goal II, Objective A, Action 13)
A stub street from Sutherland Farms, Publisher Street, is provided to this property. Currently
there are no opportunities to connect to any other roads in adjacent properties. Staff believes
that when the roadway/driveway system is constructed, this site should be required to extend
Publisher Street into the site and out to Victory Road and Eagle Road. NOTE: This
connection should not go straight out to Eagle Road. Rather, the connection should provide a
circuitous route, as to prevent cut-through traffic.
Staff also finds the following 2002 Comprehensive Plan text policies to be applicable to this
application:
· "The capacity of arterial. . .roadways can be greatly diminished by excessive driveway
connections to the roadways. The City should cooperate with AClIO to minimize access
points on arterial. . .roadways as development applications are reviewed." (Chapter VI, page
72)
· "Develop methods, such as cross~access agreements, frontage roads, to reduce the number of
existing access points on to arterial streets." (Chapter VI, page 79)
Staff recommends that the Commission and Council determine whether the proposed zoning
designations are generally harmonious with and in accordance with the Comprehensive Plan. Staff
recommends that the Commission and Council rely on any verbal or written testimony that may be
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provided at the public hearing when determining tfthe applicant's zoning and development request is
appropriate for this property.
9. UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE
a. Allowed Uses in the Commercial Districts: UDC Table 11-2B-2lists the permitted, accessory,
and conditional uses in the C-C and L-O zoning districts. UDC Table 11-2A-2lists the
permitted, accessory, and conditional uses in the R-4 zoning district.
b. Purpose Statement of Zone:
Community Commercial (C-C) and Limited Office (L-O): The purpose of the
Commercial Districts is to provide for the retail and service needs of the community in
accord with the Meridian Comprehensive Plan. Four Districts are designated which differ
in the size and scale of commercial structures accommodated in the district, the scale and
mix of allowed commercial uses, and the location of the district in proximity to streets
and highways.
R-4 Medium Low-Density Residential: The purpose of the residential districts is to
provide for a range of housing opportunities consistent with the Meridian Comprehensive
Plan. Connection to the City of Meridian water and sewer systems is a requirement for all
residential districts. Residential districts are distinguished by the allowable density of
dwelling units per acre and corresponding housing types that can be accommodated
within the density range.
10. ANALYSIS
a. Analysis of Facts Leading to Staff Recommendation:
1. AZ Application: Please see Exhibit C for detailed analysis of the required facts
and findings.
Proposed Zoning: One of the primary objectives of zoning is to protect the public health, safety
and welfare. It is the City's obligation to ensure existing properties are protected from harmful,
disturbing or unnecessary encroachments. While it is possible to design non-residential projects
that are compatible with residential uses, it does require more time, energy and money from all
parties involved (both private and public) to design and enforce these situations. Of the subject 23
acres, over 19 acres is proposed for C-C zoning, while 2.5 acres is proposed for R-4 zoning and
I .4 acres is proposed for L-O zoning.
By adding an additional 20 acres of land designated for primarily commercial use to the City's
inventory, staff is concerned with a potential over-supply of commercially zoned land. Meridian's
2005 office vacancy rate has been noted by the Chamber of Commerce and other local real estate
sources to continue to be high (between 9% and 25%, depending on the sub-area). While staff
understands the applicant's argument that Eagle Road is a high visibility corridor and
opportunistic for both office and retail, staff is concerned about extending too much more retail
and office uses south of the Ridenbaugh Canal and believe other locations are better suited for
these uses.
In the area south ofI-84 between Locust Grove Road and a half mile east of Eagle Road, there is
over 250 acres of vacant or under-developed land designated as either Commercial or MU-
Regional on the Future Land Use Map. This does not include any of the Silverstone or EI Dorado
land or any land north of 1-84. All of this property is within a 112 mile radius of the subject
properties.
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On the south side of Victory Road the applicant is proposing commercial zoning directly adjacent
to existing residential. Staff is charged with ensuring that the proposed zoning, existing and future
uses are compatible with each other. Staff has fielded several phone calls from neighbors in
Sutherland Farms Subdivision, Tuscany Subdivision and Thousand Springs Subdivision. For the
most part the neighbors are concerned with the amount of commercial zoning proposed and the
anticipated amount of vehicular traffic and noise that this site will generate. Further, staff can not
envision how the proposed C-C zoned property on the south side of Victory Road will be
compatible with the low density residential surrounding the property.
Staff finds that the subject application only proposes approximately 2.5 acres of residential
zoning on the entire 23 acres proposed for annexation. Staff questions how the sliver of property
on Eagle Road, south of Victory will develop with C-C zoning, as landscaping will take up a
significant portion of the property. Further, no provisions have been provided for the re-
development of the county properties to the north of the subject site (currently Kirby Kennels)
and east in Golden Eagle Estates; C-C zoning is proposed adjacent to them. If zoning is approved
as proposed by the applicant, staff believes that these adjacent properties will also seek a
commercial zone, thereby furthering the oversupply of commercially zoned properties in this
area. Staff recommends that the Commission and Council detennine if the ratio of commercial.
office and residential zoninl! is appropriate for. and compatible with the other uses in this area.
Staff reconunends that the Commission and Council detennine what the appropriate mix of
zoninwuses. in this area proposed for mixed use - community. is to be.
The legal descriptions submitted by the applicant (dated March 29, 2006) shows the properties as
contiguous to the existing corporate boundary of the City of Meridian. Said legal descriptions are
not stamped by a professional land surveyor. The applicant should be reauired to submit lel!al
descriptions for this property that are stamped by an Idaho State certified professional land
surveyor.
Concept Map: On April 12, 2006, the applicant submitted a revised/updated concept map and
proposal letter. The revised concept map and the commitments outlined in the revised letter are
detailed below.
Detail: When the CPA application was submitted in 2005, the Alliance intended to develop a
business campus similar to the EI Dorado and Silverstone developments to the north. All property
owners were committed to coordinate future development plans. The Alliances' goal is to rezone
the properties to their best use and then to market the property to a buyer who will be bound by
the DA that comes out ofthe annexation process. A positive and encouraging aspect ofthe
Alliance's applications are that owners of contiguous, smaller parcels are coordinating their
development plans and appeared to be willing to submit a single planned development/site plan.
This kind of cooperation is strongly encouraged by City Staff, the Commission and the Council
and helps to facilitate future driveway and roadway access points to Eagle Road and Victory
Road and avoids fragmented development.
Staff believes that the revised Concept Map and the commitments offered up by the applicants,
provides a good base for evaluating the annexation request. The revised Map shows a vehicular
system, proposes maximum building sizes and heights, and limits some of the uses that may be
constructed within the six distinct areas. The six areas are broken up as follows: the R-4 area
adjacent to Sutherland Farms Subdivision; the L-O area south of the R-4 area, adjacent to Victory
Road, the C-C area along Eagle Road and along the north side of Victory Road; the interior
transitional C-C area (on the west side of the proposed north-south roadway, across from the R-4
area); the C-C area interior to the development; and, the C-C area south of Victory Road.
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Because the Commission has recommended approval to the City Council of a Mixed Use-
Community designation for this property, staff has attempted to incOlporate detailed DA
provisions that will ensure that the subject property is developed in the best interest of the City.
Access: During the public hearing for the Comprehensive Plan Amendment (CPA-05-00l),
Wayne Forrey testified that he imagined that there would be one additional access point to Eagle
Road, between Easy Jet Drive and Victory Road, for this property. However, on the Concept Map
north of Victory Road there are two accesses shown to Eagle Road, two access are shown to
Eagle Road south of Victory Road, and four accesses shown to Victory Road. Staff believes that
this is too many access points to the adjacent arterial roadways. Staff recommends that EaQ:le
Road access points be restricted to: one full access (public street) between Easy Jet Drive and
Victory Road. and one riQ:ht-inlriQ:ht-out driveway north of Victory Road. if approved by AGIO.
Staff further recommends that only one riQ:ht-in/riQ:ht-out driveway to Eagle Road be allowed
south of Victory Road. Access to Victory Road should be restricted to one full access (public
street) and one riQ:ht-inlriQ:ht-out driveway. on the north side of the road. and only one access on
the south side of Victory Road. in locations approved by ACHD.
A stub street from Sutherland Farms, Publisher Street, is provided to this property. Currently
there are no opportunities to connect to any other roads in adjacent properties. Staff believes that
when the roadway/driveway system is constructed. this site should be required to extend
Publisher Street into the site and out to Victory Road and EaQ:le Road. Staff further recommends
that a public stub street be provided to the county parcel to the north (Kirby Kennels).
NOTE: Retail operations typically want their own driveways or at least more frequent curb cuts
to arterials than residential uses. Residential subdiyision developers are typically less concerned
with direct access. and put less pressure on both the City and ACHD to construct them.
Landscapilll2:: Per City Code (UDC Table ll-2B-3), a 25-foot wide landscape street buffer is
required adjacent to Eagle Road and Victory Road, which are both arterial roadways. Per City
Code (UDC Table 11-2B-3) a 25-foot wide landscape buffer is required between C-C zoned
properties and residential uses/zones. The Alliance is agreeable to a DA provision where 25-foot
wide street buffers along Victory Road and Eagle Road will be constructed in the future. A 40-
foot wide landscape buffer is proposed between the office zoned area and the residents in
Sutherland Farms.
Development AQ:feement: UDC 11-5B-3.D.2 and Idaho Code 9 65-6711A provides the City the
authority to require a property owner to enter into a Development Agreement (DA) with the City
that may require some written commitment for all future uses. Staff believes that a DA is
necessary to ensure that this property is developed in a fashion that is consistent with the
comprehensive plan designation and does not negatively impact nearby properties.
Staff recommends that the Commission and Council direct the City's Legal Department to draft
a development agreement for the subject properties as follows:
. That the Alliance believes there are advantages to selling the subj ect properties to a single
development entity.
. That because the Alliance property owners have joined together for a unified development,
all of the property north of Victory Road shall be included within the boundaries of a plat,
with a [mal plat for the property being recorded prior to the City's issuance of any building
permit.
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. That because the development approach is to lessen (feather) land use intensity approaching
the existing neighborhoods, the following restrictions will be placed on the development of
the property:
. A 40- foot wide landscape buffer will be provided between the L-O zoned property and
Sutherland Fanns Subdivision. Said buffer will be constructed on the L-O property.
. A 25-foot wide landscape buffer will be provided between the L-O zoned property and
the R-4 zoned property to the north. Said buffer will be constructed on the L-O property.
. The area zoned L-O will be limited to single level structures up to 5,500 square feet.
. All buildings with frontage on Eagle Road and Victory Road, north of Victory Road, will
be limited to a 12,500 square foot building footprint; that all buildings will have a variety
of building materials and colors; that there will be variations in building setbacks from
the road (not strip mall); and that buildings will be oriented towards the adjacent arterial
street (at least two-sided architecture, not a blank: fayade facing the street(s)).
. The area directly west of the proposed north-south street shall be limited to a single level,
up to 7,500 square feet in size; have two-sided construction so that there are windows
facing the R-4 homes to the east and internally to the west; that the commercial building
will look similar to the homes constructed in Sutherland Fanns; and that no retail stores,
fuel sales, or wireless communications facilities will be allowed in this area.
. That the internal commercial buildings north of Victory Road, shall not exceed 20,000
square feet.
. That at least one centrally located plaza gathering areas, with some covered seating shall
be provided within the conunercial area north of Victory Road.
. That the buildings south of Victory Road, shall not exceed 20,000 square feet; that all
buildings will have a variety of building materials and colors; that there will be variations
in building setbacks from the road (not strip mall); and that buildings will be oriented
towards the adjacent arterial street (not a blank: fayade facing the street(s)).
. That the future R-4 lots located next to Sutherland Farms Subdivision shall contain at least
8,000 square feet and have dwellings of at least l,400 square feet.
. That unless specified otherwise in this DA, all landscaping along the perimeter of this
property and internally shall comply with all of the provisions of the Unified Development
Code.
. That Publisher Street will be extended into the site and circuitously connect with Eagle Road
and Victory Road, as not to encourage cut~through traffic.
. That a public stub street will be provided to the property to the north, to eventually tie into
Easy Jet Drive.
. That Eagle Road access points be restricted to a maximum of: one full access (public street)
between Easy Jet Drive and Victory Road, and one right-inlright-out driveway north of
Victory Road, if approved by ACHD; that only one right-inlright-out driveway to Eagle Road
be allowed south of Victory Road.
. That access to Victory Road shall be restricted to a maximum of: one full access (public
street) and one right-inlright-out driveway, on the north side of Victory Road; that only one
access on the south side of Victory Road be allowed. Locations for access points mentioned
shall be contingent on ACHD approval.
. That the Alliance agrees to facilitate a well-planned, neighborhood compatible development.
. That the Alliance agrees to submit legal descriptions for each approved zone, prepared by a
professional licensed surveyor in the State of Idaho, prior to annexation ordinance approval.
Prior to the annexation ordinance approval, a Development Agreement shall be entered into
between the City of Meridian, the property owners (at the time of annexation ordinance
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adoption), and the developer. The applicant shall contact the City Attorney. Bill Nary. at 888-
4433 to initiate this process.
b. Staff Recommendation: Staff recommends approval of the subiect application AZ-06-
008. with the Development Agreement provisions listed above in the AZ Application
Analvsis of Section 10 of the Staff Reoort for the hearinll date of AptillO. 2006.
11. EXHmITS
A. Legal Description
B. Required Findings from Unified Development Code
C. Concept Map
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Exhibit A - Legal Descriptions
Murch 2'1, 200(\
rlESCRlJ'T10N
loUR
C.C ZONE
Ihis lleserirtion is I"f lnt' C-C lOl'\jI:: as shown on tlU' Eagle Alli,mee Map whidl is <I
parcel orland locatcd in lhe SWl /4 ofthC' SWli4 Sectioll 21 and the l'\W1/4 oflhc I\~"J 14
Section 2l! 10wnship 3 North Range I l:.astlJosic Meridian Ada ('OUnly, Idaho and more
particularly described as follows:
Comm.::m:ing althe soulh ellst corner of said SC'ction ::! I 1":.\ N R I E BM, whi\:h is Ihe True
Plljnt or Beginning lhr [he descriplion:
Thence l'IiO'O(l' I7"W along the west boundary of said Section 21 a distance of I 02." I]
leel:
Thence Sl!9-25' 49"F iC)I' a distancC' of 66 7.16 feel to the centerline of a pruposed sl~et:
Thence along a \:urve \\.ith a radius of 400 fcC'1. il central allgk of 6"52'55", a kmg chord
bearing ot'SJ" 26' 45"F. and a long chord kngth of 48.02 lcct;
Th~nce conlinuing along thc ccntcrlinc SO" (l' 17"C a distance of 53U,\)2 feet;
ThellCl' al(JOg a curve wilh a radius of I RO leeL a central angle 1'1' 37'J4'45", J IlJlJg chord
bearillg or S Ill' 47' O()"W and a long chord length (If 115,95 feet:
I hcnt::e clmtinuing along the I:l>nterline S37"-,4' 2R"W a dislant::e of 11l5.49 led:
Ih..,ncc altJOg a ('urvc wilh a raJius of 1 ROlcel, a cl:ntra] angle orJ 7"1 n'21", II long \:hnrd
bearing of S 18" 59' I R"W mllia long chllrJ length of 114.74 leet:
I'hence continuing along lhe e.enterlinC' Scr24' 07"W a dislance "I' 13\).4 7 !Cd II. Ihe
south boundary of section 11 :
Thencc SO"JlJ' 5\)"W a distance of l67.00 leeL:
Thence S Ill"t <)' 49"W 1I JiStllnCl' uf J 70.0{) fi:C'I:
I hellce NlllrJ5' 54"W a distancc of 336. T2 feel:
I hC'nee SO"]I' I O"\V a distance of :B9.I] teet:
Thence N30"09' 4Q"W a distance of 277.25 fcelwlhe we~l boundary of Section 28:
I'hcnci.' along lile west b(.undary of Section 211 NO":';:!' Jl)"l a distance of 42'1,)5 fccl am]
haek to d\(' point of beginning_
Said parcel conlai [IS :;ume 19 AI acres. more or kss.
Exhibit A - Page 1
CITY OF MERIDIAN PLANNING DEPARTMENT 8T AFF REPORT FOR THE HEARING DATE OF FEBRUARY 2, 2006
March 29.2006
DESCRIP'nON
FOR
1,.()]ONE
lhis d~scripli(ln is Ihr lh~ [AllDt><E as shown on th~ Fllj!.le Alli(\llI.'l' Mdp whi"h
is a pured ofland located in tho; SWI /4 urth~ SW'1l4 Sectkm 21 Township 3 North
Rlmgt' I East Bosic M.:ridian Ada CounlY_ Idaho and more particularly deserlh~d 3-<.;
!Illlows:
Commencing nt tlw south cast comer of saiJ Section 11 L\N R I F 8M, Thl.'llCl"
SIN"',-~'55"E :liung tll(> south boundary of ~miJ Section 21 II distance of 530J}() 11::1.'1 which
is .he True ruint of Beginning for Ihe description:
Thence ~O'14'07"E along the centerline ora propos<.'(j road a distance of 139.47 leet;
Thcnl.:c along a curv<: with a r<ldius of 1.80 keto a central angle of 37" I 0'21 ", a lung chorel
beming of N 18" 59' 1 R'T, and a long chord length of 1]4.74 1i.'C1:
Thence S52" 25' 31 "F a distance of 25.()() feet to the easterly right HI' way lin~ of said
mad:
Th,'llee SIl'Y 3]' 50"F a dislann' of 211 ,ll7 lCel to the westerly boundary of Sutherland
Faml~ Subdivision;
Thellee SO'OU' 17"W a distance HI' 2J3,OO feet to the southerly boundary llfScctioll 21:
Thence NIl9"3S' 55"W along said sOUlhcrly bl)undary a distance of270,02 !Cd and hud...
II' the poinl of begi nning_
Said parcel conlains some 1.4J acres. more <lrk-s5.
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Exhibit A - Page 3
March 24,10()o
DESCRIPTION
fOR
H4 lONL
Tl1i~ d.:scription is for the R4 ZONE liS sh~lwn on the Eagle Alliance Map which
is i1 rxm;d orland locatt-d in 1m: SWl/4 ofthc SWI/4 ScL.tion 21 Township:~ Nonh
R,mg.:: 1 East Bosie Meridian Ada County. Idaho lmd more pnfticu!;uly described .IS
follows:
Commencing al the ~outh calit corner 0 f said Sedion 21 T3N R 1 E BM. Th~:l1n:
NO'(}(1' ITW along the west boundar) of said Section 21 11 distance of 1023_12 fed;
Thence S89'2~' 49"F I'm a distance or 067.1 (j tect to the centerline of a proposed stre.:t
which is Ihe True Poinl or Beginning I{)r the Jescriptiun;
Thence ahlllg. 11 curve with a radius of 4()() teel, a central angle of (i"52'55". a long chord
hearing ot'S]" 26' 45"F and 11 long chmd length of 4l!.02 feet:
I'hence continuing illong the centerline SO' ()' I7"E [I distance of 530.91 fcet:
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CITY OF MERIDIAN PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFF REPORT FOR THE HEARING DATE OF FEBRUARY 2, 2006
B. Required Findings from Unified Development Code
1. Annexation Findings:
Upon recommendation from the Commission, the Council shall make a full
investigation and shall, at the public hearing, review the application. In order to
grant an annexation and/or rezone, the Council shall make the following findings:
1. The map amendment complies with the applicable provisions of the
comprehensive plan;
The applicant is proposing to zone the subject property to C-C, L-O and R-4.
Please see Comprehensive Plan Policies and Goals, Section 8, of the Staff Report
for more information.
2. The map amendment complies with the regulations outlined for the
proposed district, specifically the purpose statement;
No development is proposed concurrent with the zoning map amendment. Staff
finds that there are several uses that are allowed and conditionally allowed within
the requested zoning districts of C-C, L.O and R-4. If the applicant complies
with the conditions outlined in the development agreement, staff finds that the
proposed zoning districts will be in compliance with the specific district
regulations. Staff fmds that future development of this property should comply
with the established regulations and purpose statements of the requested zones.
3. The map amendment shall not be materially detrimental to the public
health, safety, and welfare;
Staff recommends that the Commission and CO\lllcil rely on any oral or written
testimony that may be provided when determining this finding.
4. The map amendment shall not result in an adverse impact upon the delivery
of services by any political subdivision providing public services within the
City including, but not limited to, school districts; and,
Staff finds that the proposed zoning amendment will not result in any adverse
impact upon the delivery of services by any political subdivision providing
services to this site.
5. The annexation is in the best of interest ofthe City (UDC 11-5B-3.E).
The C-C, L-O and R-4 zoning amendment will provide commercial and
residential areas that are similar in nature to existing and proposed commercial
development in the vicinity. Staff fmds that all essential services are available or
will be provided by the developer to the subject property and will not require
unreasonable expenditure of public funds. Staff recommends that the
Commission and Council determine whether the orooosed Annexation and
Zonin!! of this property will be in the best interest of the City. If the Commission
and Council determine the annexation is in the best interest of the City. staff
recommends that the applicant enter into a Development Al!reement (DA) with
the Citv. as mentioned in Section 10 of the StaffReoort.
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Item 17:
Item 18:
America West Homes, LLC - south side of Pine Avenue and east of Ten
Mile Road:
Public Hearing: PP 06-011 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 122
residential lots (50 4-plex lots and 72 townhouse lots) and 10 common lots
on 21.77 acres in a proposed R-15 zone for Canterbury Commons
Subdivision by America West Homes, LLC - south side of Pine Avenue
and east of Ten Mile Road:
Public Hearing: CUP 06-006 Request for a Conditional Use Permit to
construct a multi-family development consisting of 200 multi-family
dwelling units (4-plexes) on 50 lots and 72 townhouse dwelling units on
21.77 acres in a proposed R-15 zone for Canterbury Commons
Subdivision by America West Homes, LLC - south side of Pine Avenue
and east of Ten Mile Road:
Rohm: Okay. Okay. At this time I'd like to open Public Hearings AZ 06-013, PP 06-
011, and CUP 06-006, for the sole purpose of continuing them to the regularly
scheduled meeting of April 20th, 2006.
Zaremba: So moved.
Moe: Second.
Newton-Huckabay: Second.
Rohm: It's been moved and seconded that we continue Public Hearings AZ 06-013, PP
06-011, and CUP 06-006, all related to Canterbury Commons Subdivision, to the
regularly scheduled meeting of April 20th, 2006. All those in favor say aye. Opposed
same sign? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 19:
Public Hearing: AZ 06-008 Request for Annexation and Zoning of 23.39
acres from RUT to C-C for South Eagle and Victory Road Property
Owners Alliance Annexation by the South Eagle and Victory Road
Property Owners Alliance - east side of South Eagle Road on both the
north and south sides of Victory Road:
Rohm: Okay. And now the last item on our agenda. I'd like to at this time open the
Public Hearing on AZ 06-008 and begin with our staff report.
Hood: Thank you, Mr. Chair, Members of the Commission. The subject property is
located on the northeast corner of Victory and Eagle Roads. It is approximately 23
acres of roughly 50 acres that was part of a Comprehensive Plan map amendment that
you guys reviewed late last fall, early fall, later last year, and recommended approval to
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the City Council. The Eagle Road and Victory Road Property Owners Alliance at that
time applied for the Comprehensive Plan amendment to change the designation of the
property, which included the subject property that's up for annexation this evening, in
the baby blue highlight, from low and medium density -- this parcel was low. I believe
most of this is medium, to change those from -- those designations to a mixed use
regional designation. This body sent a recommendation onto the City Council for a
mixed use community designation. There was extensive discussion at that time with the
Alliance properties about the designation -- appropriate designation. Several neighbors
from Sutherland Farms and most of them were new neighbors in Sutherland Farms
were at that hearing. Some of the existing residents in Thousand Springs on the other
side of Eagle Road were in attendance. There was no specific proposal or concept plan
at that time, it was just a -- to paraphrase, I guess, the request from the Alliance, it was,
basically, due to all of the commercial uses in EI Dorado and Silverstone that Eagle
Road really is not appropriate anymore for residential, that commercial uses belong in
this area. The planning and zoning staff actually recommended denial. Like I said, this
board forwarded onto the City Council with a provision that the City Council not act until
an annexation application be filed by the applicant. So, the City Council had been
waiting for the annexation application as you requested they do. Staff had a little bit of
an issue, I guess, with -- the applicant did submit an annexation application. I think
what may have been the intent was that there would be some type of a development
plan to look as well, because an annexation application really doesn't -- it's just zoning.
There is really no concept necessarily with just getting your zoning. So, the reason that
I wanted to have this hearing tonight is to see -- if you tell me to press forward with the
concept plan that they submitted, I will do my best to work up a staff report. This is the
concept plan they did submit. It will just touch on that real quick. There is a stub street
coming into the property in that location from Sutherland Farms. They are conceptually
showing to extend that street one lot depth and, then, run a north-south street. This is
an existing kennel in the county, zoned RUT. This is your use exception in Sutherland
Farms. So, there is office, other nonresidential uses in that area. And, then, Easy Jet
Drive. So, this would be Victory. There was one parcel on the south side of Victory, the
other -- I think there is maybe four property owners that own eight or nine separate tax
ID parcels on the north side. The legal descriptions submitted for this whole property
proposed a C-C zone, community business district zone. However, there is an office
zone shown right on the corner, as well as seven or eight residential lots shown
adjacent to the existing single family homes in Sutherland Farms. Some of the things
that were discussed -- and I won't go into it too much, but just to kind of refresh your
memory a little bit, because a lot of those neighbors aren't here this evening. But there
was some concern of how do you transition from these new single family homes and at
least a couple, if not several of them testified that when they bought they were
assuming it was going to be residential, because that was the designation. I'm not here
to say that you made a bad choice last time by amending the Comprehensive Plan map,
it was simply just to point out that there wasn't a concept plan before and my question to
you, I guess, is one row of single family homes enough of a transition to, then, the
commercial that takes up a majority of the site. Something that I envision, I haven't
drawn anything, is maybe just another row of some residences, which it does a couple
of things, in my mind. If you remember Brad brought up that he thought -- and based on
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a study that we had Thornton Oliver Keller do for the city that we already had enough
commercial designated properties anyways. Our vacancy rates for office were -- were
pretty high and didn't think we needed anymore. This, in my mind -- and I agree with
what the Alliance was saying at that point, too, that residences right on Eagle Road
probably don't make sense. But some compromise of that -- and in the staff report I'm
saying approximately half of the property zoned to a residential zone, that still leaves
you some decent size commercial businesses that you could put in there and it provides
that -- that transition -- more of a transition, anyways, for the Sutherland Farms folks,
and there are residences on the other side, too. So, I think if we get too much
commercial in this area, there could definitely be a negative impact on the
neighborhood. On the other side of the Ridenbaugh where EI Dorado and Silverstone
are, it's not the same situation. You don't have existing residential subdivisions. So,
this is -- it's really an in-fill piece that we have got to make work into an existing
neighborhood. Granted, most of it's a newer neighborhood, but it still exists. So, just
based on the concept plan, again, I didn't think there was enough information to
recommend approval, but I think there is possibilities here to recommend approval, just
not -- I wanted to give the Alliance a chance, really, to bring some concepts before the
Commission and the Council has said that, too, that they really want to see detail. I met
with -- with most of the Alliance members here on Tuesday, I believe it was, for a little
while, and -- and staff realizes that those concept plans don't always come to fruition in
how you -- you know, best laid plan. They really don't know. They are just trying to get
zoning to market this and find someone or maybe a couple few entities that can develop
this property. So, they really don't know how it's going to develop and I understand that.
I respect that. At the same time the city, I tried to explain to them, is looking for some
details where we can say, hey, this is going to be a good addition to the city with these
concepts or these provisions. If it's going to be a roadway system or all of the buildings
are going to have, you know, 30 percent windows facing Eagle Road and there will be
double side architecture, so that the residences aren't looking at the back of buildings,
something, some other provisions. Now, I have provided seven or eight guiding
principles with the application and most of those are pretty good. I think some of them
we are going to need a little tweaking. But just based on the detail and the motion, I
guess, the question to the Commission is -- is this what you expected to see for this
area when you said we like the idea of changing you from just straight residential to a
mixed use designation, come back when you have an annexation application. I mean is
this all the detail you really expected to see or were some other -- some details as far
as, you know, acreages -- because, you know, our policies in the Comprehensive Plan
for the mixed use areas have provisions for residential, different types of commercial
businesses, offices. Here would just be, you know, all that's zoned C-C would be a little
concerning to staff and without -- I may chime in a little bit later, too, but some of the
other concerns, I guess, is without Showing a concept plan I was really concerned about
at least a portion of this lot, primarily the perimeter of this whole lot, and how it relates
and how it relates -- these properties are still designated low density residential on the
Comprehensive Plan map. So, how do you have a C-C right adjacent to low density
residential and what do you do, especially with the strip, you're going to have a
landscape buffer required on Eagle Road, one to buffer, and now you have got -- I
mean I don't know how much room's in there, but it makes it quite difficult to actually
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utilize that area for commercial businesses and how do they relate to these anticipated
low density -- existing low density and anticipated low density properties around that __
that site. So, those are just some of the things that I would like to see addressed, you
know, by the applicants and, again, get some guidance from the Commission on, you
know, staff, this is what you need to work from and this is good enough for us, we think
that it can be approved with this or we want to add a couple provisions, but this is good
enough. I think --
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman, if I may comment, I would add what I remember my
expectation to have been and I probably was the leader in discussion with Mr. Forrey
the alternatives to making it entirely commercial and he made the offer that there would
be residential along the eastern side that I think pushed most of us over the side that --
to say, well, maybe the Comprehensive Plan amendment would be okay, but you're
absolutely right, we wanted to see it. And I'll tell you my expectation was to see an
annexation and a preliminary plat, not just a concept. I was expecting as a backup for
whether the Comprehensive Plan amendment really should happen or not, to really see,
essentially, the final detail. And my expectation, I believe, was pretty much as you
described it, there would be residential on both sides of this back street, commercial
along Eagle, but that there would be some depth to the amount of residential that was
there, that we would see what the final location of the roadway would be. So, your
instinct certainly matches the way I remember it, except that I would go one step farther
and I don't know if the words were ever said, but I was expecting annexation and
preliminary plat before we matched it up with a Comprehensive Plan amendment.
Moe: I concur as well.
Zaremba: I see other people nOdding their heads.
Newton-Huckabay: Mr. Chair?
Rohm: Commissioner Newton-Huckabay.
Newton-Huckabay: I remember very clearly that Mr. Forrey made the comment that
there would be one row of houses on the east side.
Zaremba: On each side?
Newton-Huckabay: On the east.
Zaremba: Oh, on the east side.
Newton-Huckabay: I remember that to be his only promise to the Sutherland Farms
homeowners that there would be one row of houses on the eastern side of the property,
with -- I don't know if they agreed to a size specifically as far as lot size, but it wasn't
going to be like apartments.
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Hood: Of similar size I think was basically the language.
Newton-Huckabay: Yeah. And I want to make -- if I may comment, too, that the one
like that I think is important here was -- what was important for me at the time was that
this can come in as one development or this can come in eight developments. And I
really like the idea of it coming in as one development and I also think this is a critical
corner, it's going to have -- I mean it's going to be a very critical corner. We have, what
is it, Tuscany something Village and, then, we have got Kingsbridge going in right down
below it, and, you know, I think there is going to be a need for services and
neighborhood commercial on that corner. And I also think that those -- those other
three big lots right there on Victory, once the road expands to the southeast, are likely
going to want to expand in some type of commercial and, then, was this not also the
property that Ada County was assessing as commercial property or something like that?
They had stopped -- I remember Anna sitting here -- actually came to that meeting and
said this is the first that had happened, where the county was designating a property
different than the city.
Hood: The assessor's office oftentimes does make assumptions that aren't based on
our Comprehensive Plan. They very well may have been being taxed as a commercial
property. I don't know that. An appraiser can look at highest and best, but if you're on
an arterial intersection, they, generally, aren't looking at our Comprehensive Plan map
either, which is a better guide than the appraiser saying what your highest and best is.
But that -- you know, all that aside, I guess I think -- I agree with you -- with the -- you
know, going back to the residential there, you're right on, your memory is right on, but I
didn't think that that would be a minimum, like it has to be only one row of lots. And
that's my question to you, I guess. If that's -- if that's what you understood you were
getting, that's fine, I'll work with that, but that's not -- I didn't interpret that meaning to be
that's a maximum. You can only have one row of houses and we want to see the rest of
it be commercial, that's the question, I guess, and I -- without having the details in a plat,
that's why I want this kind of open forum to see when you envisioned changing this to a
mixed use designation, were you envisioning this. And that's my question.
Borup: And my -- now that I think about it, my feeling was that that was correct, that
would be minimum on the east, and it seems like that was something that Wayne
committed to at the meeting and maybe saying he'd need to go back, they need to
discuss it and work on a design and I don't know that we knew what we were getting,
other than that would be a minimum. And I was not expecting a plat.
Newton-Huckabay: I was not either.
Borup: I was expecting maybe a little more detailed concept plan.
Newton-Huckabay: I agree.
Borup: But not a plat.
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Hood: And I have just a -- to kind of finish, I did this morning -- Mr. Carpenter came into
the office and dropped off a new plan and that doesn't show up very well. I have got a
color rendering. It's basically the same plan, however, they have shown how their
access roads can -- their driveways from Eagle can tie back in internally and back to
that proposed north-south roadway that I mentioned earlier, so I'll put that up on the
screen, too.
Zaremba: While you're setting that up, I admit that my memory is sometimes faulty, but
I -- now that I think of it, I remember some discussion, whether it went anywhere or not,
that along the east property line would be single family dwellings of equivalent to what
they backed up to and that on the west side of that road there might be a higher density
of residential.
Borup: It makes sense.
Zaremba: Before the commercial along Eagle Road. Whether it was apartments or
something else. I thought the subject was open to have more residential than just that
one row.
Hood: And, Mr. Chairman, Commissioner Zaremba, just -- I was going through the
minutes of that meeting just before we had this one, just to kind of refresh my memory,
and that was discussed and at least one, maybe two of the people in Sutherland Farms
says we don't want apartment buildings there either. So, it's tough and I don't know
what it is, but it just -- and maybe that -- if that's what -- you know, that was a separate
hearing. I'm just saying that that was discussed, but it really wasn't a consensus that
that would be any better.
Zaremba: Well, among the other discussion I also support the idea of actually
identifying different zones, that it should not all be one zone. The zone should be
appropriate to what we think is going to be put there.
Rohm: Caleb, thank you, and I think, really, at this point I'd like to have the applicant
come forward and just kind of walk us through some of your own thought processes as
to how this -- you envision this developing.
Thomason: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission. My name is Marty
Thomason, I am a member of the South Eagle Road and Victory Road Property Owners
Alliance and I drew the short straw, so I'm making a presentation tonight.
Rohm: Lucky you.
Thomason: My address is 2960 South Eagle Road. We came here tonight with the
understanding that we were making a presentation on annexation application, but the
discussion that has occurred so far leads me to the understanding that we really need to
rediscuss the October 17th meeting and I have -- I have prepared for that, so I will lead
you through that. To begin with we are not developers, we are property owners
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pursuing the rezoning of our property as a group for its best use. We hired Wayne
Forrey last year to lead us through the Comprehensive Plan amendment phase,
because our purpose at that time was for a map change, not annexation. The October
17th meeting -- and I'll just direct your attention up here to some slides that we have
prepared. We walked away from that meeting with the understanding that we had an
approval for a map change with three conditions. And I'll go through those quickly now,
but, then, I'll describe them later as well. Those three conditions were have another
neighborhood meeting. Develop a development agreement that included our guiding
principles that we had willingly put forth. And, third, to apply for annexation. And so we
applied for annexation, my slide is basically about tonight, assuming we were going to
have an annexation discussion. We applied for annexation and submitted our
application on January 11 tho Six days ago we received a staffing report that was quite
contrary to what we had understood we would be receiving. The initial summarization
that we had received was almost opposite of that. Tonight we thought that we would
show how we had complied with the request of the Planning and Zoning Commission
from the October 17th meeting. And, then, I was going to move into a summary. But
I'm going to be a little off of that tempo tonight. First of all, if I could have you move to
the next slide, please, Caleb. I'd like to thank Caleb for his synopses and for his review.
I know that he wasn't involved with our project at the time and I recognize that also two
of the Commissioners weren't here at that time. And so this is probably a very good
discussion, so that we are all at the same -- at the same place. Caleb went through
where our properties were located, but the area is South Eagle Road and Victory Road.
The northern most property is my property and, then, I will introduce the other families
here in just a moment. But when we made our application for a zoning change, we did
it based on 50 acres in this area and which were -- only our properties are now going
fOlWard for the annexation application. If I could have you move to the next slide,
please. Thank you. Okay. Here you see where the properties are located. There are
five families and ten tax parcels. We have come together because Ada County
Highway District is widening South Eagle Road. The families are, starting from the
north, my property, the Thomason family. Moving to the south we have the Bothman
family. Then we have the Sharp family. The Carpenter family. And, finally, on the
southeast side of Victory Road is the Axlerod family. All of those people are here
tonight, thinking we were going to provide evidence -- or testimony, excuse me, of what
we were doing here. If I could have you move to the next slide, Caleb, please. We
have worked proactively with all of our neighbors. Again, we are not proposing a project
or a development, we are proposing the right zoning for our property based on where
it's located and the pressures that are happening in that area. And I'm going to quickly
run through the things that we have done. If I could have you hit the space bar again --
or the down key again. We developed guiding principles. We put those forth. Wayne
helped us develop those after neighborhood meetings, meetings with the planning staff,
and with meeting with ACHD. We came to our map CPA meeting with the idea that we
would be multi -- excuse me -- mixed use regional. We changed that designation to
mixed use community. The recommendation that came out of that meeting actually
states that. In our development agreement we said we want to restrict not big boxes.
And we have created an internal roadway to minimize curb cuts on South Eagle. We
have accommodated Sutherland Farms desire for a transition. Our original
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recommendation is that we would have a landscape buffer. They weren't interested in
that. The next recommendation was that we would have like size lots on our eastern
border, of like size -- of like construction that would be the transition. And the challenge
with what's being presented is, well, the transition just keeps transitioning. And in a
moment I think we -- I'll point out where we made the conclusion at the last meeting that
is that nobody is going to live there. And I will point that out here in just a second. And
last we are in total agreement with taking the guiding principles and putting them into a
development agreement. Our understanding is that following this meeting, if there was
to be an approval to move forward, a development agreement would start to be
developed, which would be finalized following the City Council meeting and we put forth
our guiding principles for the very purpose of going into that. We are not proposing a
project, we are proposing a rezoning. And the annexation request was that this body
had recommended that, as the appropriate way to take the guiding principles and attach
it to this property on a go forward basis. If I could have you move to the next slide.
Thank you. Here is the area that we are talking about and we are located -- actually,
let's just go ahead and fill this whole screen out. I think it's for -- one more. Thank you.
There has been a lot of talk about mixed use regional and there being a lot of available
commercial land set aside for commercial land development, but I'd like to address that
for just a moment. And this was in Wayne's presentation at the last meeting. Where
the 36 percent is located, that is 36 percent of the land designated as multi-use --
excuse me. Mixed use regional is located in that area. That's the Ten Mile interchange
area. And the fact is that that's probably several years away from being developed. If
we move down to the ten percent, that also -- that's south of where we are located.
That's probably also several years from being developed, for the simple reason that
there are not services out there. We are located in the lower 27 percent. In fact, our
property is directly below that seven, if I can get this to point there. Right in here.
That's where we are located. And, yes, there is -- there is a lot of multi-use -- mixed use
regional in the Silverstone and EI Dorado, but there is no mixed use community out
through here. And the growth that's happening out there is outrageous. Let me just
lead you through what's happening around us. . I'm the northernmost property. My
southern -- or my northern border abuts against Kibby's Kennels. That is a commercial
interest. It has an exemption to be a dog kennel there. Next to them, moving towards
Ridenbaugh, is a Sutherland Farms lot. There is an old residence there. I will be
commercial. That's going to be just like on the other side of Easy Jet where there is
Sight and Sound, Stone Creek, and another building already going up. And, then,
further, right next to Ridenbaugh, across from the new department that's been built out
there, is another Sutherland Farms vacant lot, in essence. They have an old residence
there. And that will be commercial, too. The reality is that the east side of South Eagle
Road to my property line is already going to be light office or business interests of some
sort. We are simply saying that's probably the appropriate use to continue down to
Victory Road. Now, if I could just paint the picture for the rest of the area. East of us is
Sutherland Farms. Yes. West of us is the Thousand Springs Subdivision. But let's go
south. We have already talked about the Golden Eagle Estates. We have heard
rumors this week that that's going to be more than -- more like light offices and
apartments going in there. Be that as it may, let's go a step further south, that's Bob
Aldridge's property. He's commented at the last meeting that he was in agreement with
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this, because the reality is is that the ease is developing faster and is under more
pressure than was originally anticipated. And if go further south, it's a proposed
assisted living complex. If we go further south in the area that is bordered by Victory
and Columbia Road, and bordered by Cloverdale and Locust Grove, that's an area of
over six miles. Since the year 2001 there have been 2,500 housing units approved in
that area. If we just take a simple projection and say 2.5 houses per acre in the
proposed subdivisions that will be out in that area over the next several years, that's
over 9,600 homes. There will be 24,000 people living there in a few years. The reality
is is that Meridian has no mixed use community, no mixed use neighborhood sort of
commercial setting to service those people. That's what our proposal was all about, is
providing that in an area where the reality is that it's already being perceived that way.
If I could have you move to the next slide, please, Caleb. And let's just go ahead and --
a couple more times. Thank you. Thank you. We know that realtors are looking at this
area. They have commercial buyers that have uses along South Eagle Road, but they
are not interested in minor arterials where a mixed use community is already set up.
They are interested in highly visible areas and South Eagle Road is going to be that. It's
going to be a five lane road. Ada County Highway District has already purchased
easements along all of our properties. In every case they paid commercial value for
those. I'm not sure how they record that in their accounting purposes, but every one of
us collected commercial values for the easements that they have bought from us. They
recognize that South Eagle Road and the southern area from where we live is -- will be
developed in the next several years and they are recognizing the need for that arterial to
be wider. Wayne presented this at the last meeting, that investors, developers, realtors,
and public agency appraisers want to acquire the land on 1-84 for proximity business
parks. We are right in the center of that. The interchange at Ten Mile is likely going to
be delayed. Growth is going to be continued for us. The funding is probably going to
be the issue there. Ada County appraisers already look at this and question whether it's
commercial use. Several years ago when Thousand Springs was developed up to my
front door, and Sutherland Farms was beginning to develop, I had an appraiser come
out and I talked to them about getting an appraisal. One of the things he asked even
then was should I appraise this for commercial or residential, because he viewed -- he
saw that the potential was going to be there for commercial. And as I said also, the
Ridenbaugh and Eagle Road area is already being used and will be built out for
business purposes. This is how we left the last meeting and I will go into that in just a
moment. But, basically, we believe that many of the issues that were raised in the staff
report that you have all read were actually resolved at the October 15th meeting and the
recommendation that was made, really, we thought resolved the residential issue. We
have worked with our neighbors -- if I could have you move to the next slide, please.
Oh, I'm sorry. Let's go through this real quickly, just one, two -- I think -- there we are.
In September 21 st, 2005, Wayne reported this at our last meeting. The Idaho
Statesman reported that we are not building office space fast enough to keep up with
demand in one of their articles. It also stated that a strong housing market increased
demand for office and services. And, finally, the office park growth is going to be on 1-
84, the Eagle Road corridor. This is part of Wayne's presentation. I found it interesting
that the people that they interviewed drew the conclusion that this is where the growth
was going to be in office park and offices and services. If I could have you move to the
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next one, Caleb. Thank you. This was the summary that we believe came out of that
October 17th meeting and in just a moment I will just read the issues that we were
working from. We believe that there was a vote recommended to approve our
Comprehensive Plan amendment application with three caveats, three qualifications.
Those three were a neighborhood meeting, an application for annexation, and a
developed agreement. We -- the Planning and Zoning agreed with the property owners
that a development agreement would address the future development issues and it
would include our guiding principles. And, finally, our understanding was that the
Planning and Zoning requested that we make this application with a mixed use
community designation. This is where we stand and, again, Mr. Hood's report came to
us on March 10th and so we were preparing our response -- or not our response,
excuse me. We were preparing our presentation based upon the meeting minute
summaries that Brad Hawkins-Clark had done following the October 17th meeting and
before I get to that, I'll just read what -- if you don't mind, I'll just quote to summarize a
couple of the statements out of that October 17th meeting and not to pick on anybody,
but Commissioner Borup, I thought you summed it up best, so if you will allow me, I'll
just read what it was that you said.
Borup: Okay.
Thomason: I quote: I don't know that anybody in this neighborhood or anybody in this
room would live in that location with single family residential. So, it looks to me like the
choices, if it's going to be, is going to be high density or it's going to be commercial or
office. I mean that's the way it is -- that's the way Eagle Road is to the north, that's the
way Meridian Road is developing from the south. I think it is one of the realities. Now,
that's not to pick on that, we just thought that was the best summary of the whole
discussion about this area was going to be moving towards more of a business use.
The recommendation, if it's okay, Commissioner Newton-Huckabay, I'd like to just read
your recommendation.
Newton-Huckabay: Okay.
Thomason: Okay. Mr. Chairman -- and I quote: Mr. Chair, I recommend approval of
CPA 05-001, request to amend the future land use map of the Comprehensive Plan for
approximately 50 acres from medium and low density residential to mixed use
community by the South Eagle Road Property Alliance. There were three qualifications
that are at the end of this recommendation and I will just quote those as well, if that's all
right. And I quote: And we would like to request that City Council hold action on this
CPA until the applicant can make an annexation application and it will catch up with this.
So, an annexation application. Which would, then, bind them to the development
guideline principles that they put forth in their presentation and we are also asking them
to organize another neighborhood meeting. Out of that that's what we have done. We
have made every effort to comply with those. We had another neighborhood meeting
on January 5th. We presented to the neighborhood our concept plan, which has one
row of housing, which we had committed to, and only one row of housing which we had
submitted it, if like size lots and similar construction along the east border, right next to
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Sutherland Farms. We have initially proposed two things. One of two things.
Landscaping buffer or residential. They all were in favor of residential and they were
not in favor of a transition that included higher density residential. They were in favor of
the residential that we have -- are similar to their lot sizes. At that meeting we also --
they all requested a copy of our concept map and we mailed that to them. I personally
mailed that the very next day to each of them that was in attendance. The next thing
was that we have a -- provide an annexation application and that's what we have done.
We did not see stipulations here that we had to put together something further that
required more of a development idea. Please understand, we are not developing this
land. Our purpose is to rezone this property. The annexation was a request of this
body at the last meeting, so that the guiding principles we had put forth could be
attached to it appropriately. Our plan is to market this based on its best use with the
documents that lays out a clear limit and clear potential for a potential purchaser only.
It's not for us to go in there and develop it. I came here prepared to talk about a
recommendation for approval, but I'm still going to bring that up, recognizing that the
body has -- already understands that there are some issues, perhaps, to continue to talk
about. But we believe that now is the time to move forward with a decidedly clear
decision. That helps the planning staff that helps us put together the right kind of
development agreement. It allows us to proceed with a development agreement. It
provides us with a clear direction and clear limits when we market our property. It
propels this land forward on its best use and eliminates further delays. Please
understand, the development will happen here. All of us purchased our property,
because we want a rural setting. The vast majority of us have been there for 20 plus
years. We will all find another rural setting. When the road widens, this property is --
these properties will start to sell. Here is Meridian's perfect opportunity to work with
property owners who are bringing ten parcels, five different owners, into this annexation
proposal or application and this is a way for the City of Meridian to have a coordinated
and cohesive go forward on this project -- or on this property. And now I'll summarize,
using Brad Clark-Hawkins, because I like what everybody else says, as opposed to
what I say, as you have already noticed. This is a summary report we received from
him following the October 17th hearing. This is on the final page, last paragraph,
section nine, Planning and Zoning Commission recommendations. This is how we
thought the meeting ended as well. Number one -- excuse me. The Commission
recommends approval of this application for the following reasons: Number one. The
property owner collaboration and coordination is a benefit to the city, because it avoids
piecemeal development and provides for a more cohesive development pattern.
Number two. South Eagle Road is rapidly changing. The 2002 Comprehensive Plan
could not have foreseen this degree of growth and pressure. The plan needs to be
flexible and reflect changes to the area. Number three. There is a higher likelihood of
high density commercial and/or office uses being supported along this corridor than
residential uses. Number four. The Commission supports adding commercial uses to
the city limits where ever it is feasible. We want to encourage people to shop and
spend money in Meridian and allowing commercial uses in this area is one option to
accomplish that goal. Number five and, finally, the Commission believes the applicant's
protection offered to Sutherland Farm
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Subdivision in the proposed development are sufficient to address many of the
neighbors concerns. This includes providing residential uses at the common property
line with Sutherland Farms Subdivision. Commissioners, thank you for your time. The
Alliance members bring this annexation application before you based on our
understanding of the request of October 17th. We think the case for the land to be
rezoned has been made and the decision, based on a recommendation of October 17th
is why we were here tonight. Annexation of this land binds with the Alliance through a
development agreement and to the guiding principles that we willingly put forth. And it
moves this land forward on its best usage. Now that I have said all that, I'll stand and
take your questions.
Rohm: Thank you. And I would comment that you did an excellent job --
Thomason: Thank you.
Rohm: -- of recapping the past and very much appreciated.
Thomason: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Rohm: Question of the applicant at this time?
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman, I would agree with that. It was an excellent presentation.
And, basically, I think we are already in agreement with that, because Mr. Forrey did an
excellent job of convincing us of the need. It's unusual for us to pass a recommendation
along to the City Council with strings on it and the reason that we put strings on it is that
the devil is in the details and what we wanted to see before we made it an absolute
recommendation was some of the details and, again, I state we are 99 percent on board
with you. What you're talking about is exactly what most of us envision should happen
there. That's not the issue. The sort of the details of how we satisfy the neighbors is
the issue and, again, I think you made an excellent presentation, but we still want to
work out the details.
Thomason: Thank you, Commissioner.
Rohm: Commissioner Moe.
Moe: I just -- just kind of reviewing this, I realize you're not developers and whatnot and
you're going to the point that was made in the last hearing, but I'm just kind of curious.
Has there been any thought whatsoever within your group -- you're putting the R-4s on
the east side, what did anyone envision would be on the west side of that proposed
street going through there? Just commercial at that point as well, so everyone living in
those housing is going to be looking directly across the street at commercial properties?
Thomason: Thank you for that question. Again, I appreciate your understanding that
we are not developers and we are also not planners in that respect either. Our goal
here is to provide an area of land that has the right kind of zoning that a developer
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would look at and, then, be able to see, okay, I'm going to have houses across there
and when I make my proposal for my development project, I'm going to have to deal
with those houses. Yes, we have had discussions. I have driven around the City of
Meridian and seen where this sort of thing is already in place. One has a church in one
area and it has a row of houses in another and a Pizza Hut across the street. I could
answer you and say, yes, we envision that same sort of thing, but the truth of the matter
is is that we -- we are not going to propose a project here and we want to have a clear
cut development agreement that includes our guiding principles, which does say things
like no big box. The mixed use community has certain limits on what the footprint of a
building can be regarding -- it has to be 25 percent of the total space and so forth. It
has rules about what the landscaping will be. With all due respect, I -- that's where we
think we are going when we put together the developed agreement, is to that point,
rather than putting out a limitation that -- or a potential that we might see, we are, really,
looking for the guidance of a development agreement to -- and, of course, the planning
and development rules to help support that.
Newton-Huckabay: Mr. Chair?
Rohm: Commissioner Newton-Huckabay.
Newton-Huckabay: I just want to make the comment that when I went away from this
hearing, the big benefit I felt like that we were getting from this -- and I stated this before
-- is avoiding the situations like we have had at Eagle and Ustick where we have got
three parcels that are small trying to develop at different times and that type of thing.
Basically, in essence, this is the majority of that land that's left between the Ridenbaugh
and Victory Road and I don't -- for me, that was the big benefit, is that ultimately you're
agreeing to develop all this together and I guess for me that's important. I am
comfortable with getting conditions of approval with this the way it is, because of the
alternative if we don't move forward with a Comprehensive Plan amendment, is this is --
is this R-4, R-8 on the Comprehensive Plan, is that --
Thomason: It's RUT.
Newton-Huckabay: Well, on Meridian's Comprehensive Plan.
Thomason: Oh, I'm sorry.
Hood: Medium density.
Newton-Huckabay: Medium density. Which, you know, each one of you could come in
with six four-plexes or something.
Thomason: That was a discussion at the last meeting, where it was discussed that a --
the opportunity to bump up a level existed and I don't know what that means to me,
since I already have a commercial interest that's operating right next to me. I don't
know what I could actually bump up to. I don't know the rules for that. But the reality is
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that, yeah, there has already been interest expressed in our land for higher density
housing.
Newton-Huckabay: Right. But I guess I don't want to lose sight of the fact that I think
for me personally that's the thing that I think is really important to me is that we have got
now 58 acres that's going to develop into something that's a little more similar to -- I'm
going to guess like the Gateway that came through tonight, but on a much smaller
scale.
Thomason: If I might just make one qualification. The Alliance owner -- the Alliance
property owners own 20 -- well, it's 23 acres we will say, roughly. The 50 acres was a
recommendation by the staff when we were doing our Comprehensive Plan amendment
and it involved some of Sutherland Farms and it involved Kibby's Kennels and the land
just a little bit to the south of the Axlerod property. Our property that -- the owners --
Alliance owners represent is 23 acres.
Newton-Huckabay: Okay.
Rohm: Kind of to wind this down just a bit, I think that you're in substantial agreement --
or this Commission's in substantial agreement with your concept plan, even as it is
before this Commission. I see from the sign-up sheet that there were a number of
people that signed up that are -- were against your development. Just from that, I ask if
you've had an additional neighborhood meeting to put to rest some of their fears or if --
if any of that has taken place or -- would you like to speak to that just briefly?
Thomason: On January 5th we held the neighborhood meeting that was requested
after the October 17th Planning and Zoning meeting and, again, at that time the big
issue was that they wanted to have a residential buffer and that's where we put in the
concept map the residential row of houses right next to Sutherland Farms. Beyond that
there has not been anything specifically expressed to us. I know that Darrell Hines had
wrote a letter and had sent that into the planning staff and one of his comments in there
was regarding the light office -- if I could have you put our very last slide up, I think I
have our colored concept map on there, Caleb. Thank you. There is an area on the --
next to Victory Road and on the corner where Sutherland Farms is located, where we
had initially had single family dwelling or R-4 all along our back row, but when we
submitted that concept map to the planning staff, there was a request that came back to
us to actually make that entire block light office. One of Darrell Hines' comments was
that it -- what he sees on the new map is not what he saw on the concept map I mailed
to him on January 5th. And, again, that was the planning staff's recommendation right
after we turned in our annexation application. We are willing to accommodate that
residential slice there again. I mean that's -- we have been willing to accommodate
many things, obviously. You know, our original proposal was for the mixed use regional
and it's turned out that it's best mixed use community. A transition is the right thing to
do. So, we have accommodated that. We have put in our concept plan, as you can see
here, we have a -- there has been mention in the staff report about a roadway that goes
through. We have done that. We have identified these access points, because those
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were ones recommended by Ada County Highway District. I should just mention about
access points quickly. Wayne Forrey had met with Ada County Highway District and
one of the things they were concerned about is when the widening project is done they
will have 13 access points to our property, not all along South Eagle, some on Victory.
But there will be 13 access points to all these different properties. They were excited to
see that come down to seven in this kind of a proposal, when it's only dealing with
rezoning and annexation and not a project. You know, they were -- they liked that idea.
But what we have done here on this final map is we have identified where the business
settings would be and, again, I leave those open to the rules that would be applied with
any development in terms of the landscape based upon footprint of the building and that
sort of thing. But the light office I was talking about is right over here and we at one
time, when we submitted this, had this area right here still as single family dwelling, but
that was a requested change by the planning staff. And I can't tell you what the logic
was behind that. I'm sorry, I wasn't involved with that. I suspect it might have had
something to do with the fact that it's right along Victory Road, which is going to widen
to five lanes and the property probably across Victory Road is probably not going to be
residential, but rather be light office. I suspect it had something to do with they had
more vision than I did about what the area will look like.
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman?
Rohm: Yes.
Zaremba: Again, I would comment I'm absolutely on board with what you're saying.
This particular drawing I think is part of what the issue is. Rather than zone all of that C-
C, part of it should be zoned L-O. That's probably the gray area. And part of it should
be zoned R-4 or whatever the other -- yeah, it backs up to R-4, so it would need to be
R-4. And the reason that we want the concept plan or the preliminary plat, which ever
one you bring, is to identify those zones. Years ago the city used to zone a big piece of
property and, then, use exceptions. Sutherland Farms has one of those. We don't do
that anymore. We like the underlying zone to be what's there. And, you know, I
certainly can see that my memory is wrong about how much residential, but even if it
was exactly this, we would want to see the annexation be for three different zones, not
all C-C. And I think that's where we are going in wanting to see the details, agreeing
where the roadways are, where the accesses are, and concept plans are flexible, but
we think the zoning needs to be accurate to what's there and that isn't very flexible.
Thomason: Thank you for that. I appreciate that. It's very straight forward. Thank you.
Rohm: I guess in conclusion, I think that some of our local developers could take notice
from the work that you folks have put into making this thing move forward in a timely
fashion and with good forethought and thank you for all your hard work.
Thomason: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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Rohm: With that being said, I don't think we are going to be able to move forward with
this, because we have dismissed everybody that has intended to speak out on this, so
I'm looking for a date that you feel you would like to see this continued to. The 20th?
Thomason: The sooner the better.
Rohm: Would the April 20th work for you?
Thomason: If it's okay, I'd like to turn around and look to my neighbors to make sure
that that's an appropriate time for each of them. I don't make this decision alone,
unfortunately. If I could paraphrase that just for the record, we started this process July
of last year. We had our meeting in October for the Comp Plan amendment and, then,
our concern is if that has any sort of ramifications if we are delayed very long, what
those ramifications would be to that Comp Plan amendment. What kind of process we
have to go through again and that sort of thing.
Rohm: I don't think that that would enter into it. It appears as if from the discussion
from the floor that the best date available would be the first meeting in May, which
would be May 4th. We can't -- we can't put you on the 6th of April, it's already --
Borup: How full is the 20th?
Rohm: The 20th -- the 20th there is plenty of room, but --
Borup: We added a lot to it tonight. That's why I was wondering.
Rohm: I think we still have room on the 20th, but some of their people aren't available
to --
Borup: No, I understand that. They may want to decide if they feel the others can
represent them properly.
Rohm: And that works for me.
Thomason: We might prefer to go for the 20th and supply written testimony from those
neighbors who wouldn't be able to attend.
Borup: That's what I was going to say. If they feel comfortable that the rest can
represent them properly, that shouldn't make any difference.
Rohm: Well -- and I think conceptually this Commission is in pretty substantial
agreement with what you have here already and it would only be that additional
communication with those people that are your neighbors how you address that through
your development agreement or otherwise. So, to continue it to the 20th is fine with us.
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Thomason: Since I'm a novice in this process, if I could ask what would the body be
looking for in that 20th meeting?
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman?
Borup: Very good question.
Zaremba: I, actually, was going to ask a similar question of Mr. Hood. Commissioner
Borup pointed out to me that one of the drawings in the packet actually identifies zones
-- it's near the end of it. This one. And each of the pieces of property shown, granted,
as a concept, does have a zone designation. And my question to Mr. Hood is the only
thing we need to revise this annexation application is actually legal descriptions of those
different areas.
Hood: Correct.
Zaremba: You know, that's going to be a five minute discussion when we reopen the
hearing.
Borup: And, then, also included in the application some C-C and L-O and R-4 on the
application.
Hood: Yeah. I mean I have got to work up development agreement provisions, so I
think some of that discussion should be had. Now, I may have to maybe do it twice,
because of the neighbors or some other folks that left early or may not be here. If I
may, just some of the questions that I have and maybe I can run it by you and if you
say, no, we want to go another way, we can save some time in front of everyone else
next time. I know it's getting late tonight, but -- because, you know, I have got worked
up some of them, I just didn't think that it was enough to recommend approval at this
time. So, just access is probably one of the bigger questions I have for the
Commission. We were quoting minutes from that last meeting and Wayne Forrey asked
-- Commissioner Borup asked him how many accesses on Eagle Road and he said he
envisioned one between Easy Jet and Victory. And that was for the entire property
between Easy Jet and Victory. This is two-thirds of that property and they have got
three proposed. So, that doesn't seem to be consistent with the testimony there. And
so that's -- and I'm not saying that three is right or wrong, but that's not consistent. Staff
-- I would like to see maybe a maximum of two. I understand that they have got streets
that they are aligning with and ACHD would allow them to construct those, but Eagle
Road is a classified roadway and that's consistent with other plans. So, just to bring it
out there. I mean if you guys want to give me a fixed number, that's fine, but just so you
know, that's where I'm going is to limit access points. I don't know if it would be to the
one that they originally envisioned, but at least limited from what's proposed. It sounds
like that's the biggest thing for the -- if that's all the provisions that you want to put in is
just, you know, access points -- and this is a concept plan, just as a disclosure, I think
it's going to have a tough time at City Council. They are going to want to see some
more details. So, if there is something else that they can maybe provide -- and I'm just
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saying that to really help the applicant. It's going to be an uphill battle. The City Council
is not -- I do not think going to give them just here is a C-C zone, develop. And they
have the seven guiding principles for positive neighborhood development. Some of
them are a little bit how do we enforce them type things. You know, they say the intent
of the alliance is to do this or that. We really need to require it be that if it develops -- if
they all develop together, well, how do you do that? Do you make them form an LLC
and have one property? How is that carried forth? And I guess I'm going to have to
work with the legal department a little bit on putting some of these intents into actual
requirements in the development agreement provisions and I can work with -- with them
a little bit on that. But some of the other as proposed -- it sounds like some of the
neighbors -- you said there was a consensus that they all wanted to see houses, rather
than the 40 foot landscape buffer that was an option before. So, I guess I'm going to
propose that that be changed and we'll let them testify and say, hey, yeah, we agreed to
do that or, no, we didn't. But that's something that I would -- I would make as a change.
Or if you have any suggestions, too, if you want to throw them at me for any of these --
these things. So, restricting the individual site development -- and I agree with you,
Commissioner Newton-Huckabay, that, you know, it's just something that we don't see
very often, property owners getting together, not piecemealing things, we can really look
at a master plan for the area. Just wish there was some more details, but I won't go into
that, really, too much anymore. It wasn't really talked about, though, and I would bring
this up as a separate kind of talking point, is the property south of Victory, how does that
-- I mean they are in the Alliance. Are we going to say that if every -- if all these Alliance
people develop together that that person also has to develop on the other side of that
roadway? That doesn't seem to fit and I doubt that that's going to really happen, but,
yet, they are asking for the same zoning and to really tag along with the other ones that
are all part of this. So, that's -- that's something in my mind that -- how does that play in
with the rest of this, not only with the rest of the Alliance properties, but those other
properties there. With all due respect, I mean Sutherland Farms mayor may not have
purchased properties there and have these ideas to do L-O or multi-family even I have
heard. The Comprehensive Plan shows low density residential. If they wanted to do
either one of those, they are going to have to amend the Comprehensive Plan map just
like you guys did in November. So, it's not going to be anything that's just going to be a
guaranteed use. So, again, if you have any -- those are some of the sticking points that
I had when trying to formulate a recommendation. But I will work -- I mean I can work
with this concept plan and bring some provisions back and we can discuss further, but if
you have any guidance now on the front end, that would be great, too.
Rohm: I guess my only comment to that is I agree with your statement that limiting the
number of accesses on Eagle Road is always in good keeping and I'm not saying that
two is the right number or what they have got on this concept map here, but anytime
you can reduce the number of accesses, it makes for better traffic flow along your main
corridors.
Newton-Huckabay: Mr. Chair?
Rohm: Yes.
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Newton-Huckabay: I want to explore a comment that Caleb just made regarding an
uphill battle at City Council. I don't want to, one, direct all these property owners to say,
okay, this is what we think we will work and, then, have you end up at City Council and
you're, you know, remanded back to the Planning and Zoning Commission and so we
probably do need to consider that it is a very real possibility that no more detail than this
could cost you time at the City Council level and get you remanded back to the Planning
and Zoning Commission, based on them wanting more detail than we were requiring,
which is their right to do. So, I think we do need to -- well, you, the Alliance, need to
consider that as how you want to move forward with that, because that is a risk you are
going to take, but their decision -- our decision doesn't guarantee their decision is going
to be the same one. And so we do need to keep that in mind.
Thomason: Thank you.
Rohm: And to that -- to that end, working with staff very closely on your concept may --
may help you with City Council. And I think with that being said, I'm ready to wind down
here.
Thomason: Thank you.
Borup: Maybe I just -- Mr. Chairman, one additional comment, because we are looking
for input for them to take. I mean they have got a concept plan here. We do not have a
copy of that in our packet. But looking at some of the notations I have from Mr. Hood's
-- on the staff report, I had some of the same concerns or questions, anyway, that he
brought up. One was on the zoning and that was my thoughts and Commissioner
Zaremba mentioned if the site plan that was submitted with the application, if that would
take precedence on the zoning, then, it would just be a matter of changing the
application itself. And, apparently, the legal description also. But I think limiting some
access points on Eagle Road is consistent with the guiding principles and it says that -- I
mean number five was to construct an internal roadway to minimize curb cuts on Eagle
and -- that's still a lot of curb cuts on Eagle in that -- in a short section like that, so -- I
take it that that's something I would like to -- maybe just two -- I don't know if there is a
-- if that's the right number, but at least -- I mean one may not be enough.
Thomason: We appreciate that comment and Wayne's comment at the last meeting
was prior to his last meeting with the Ada County Highway District and the curb cuts that
you see there, that came out of the meeting with representatives there and --
Borup: Because they are lining up with those across the street.
Thomason: Well, the -- no, we had not shown any proposals of roadways on the
internal side. That's simple the road cuts that they had put in on the plan. So, those
aren't set in stone. I guess that's the comment I trying to make here. Ada County
Highway District, I just got their report today and the bottom line of that report --
because they were responding to something Wayne had sent to them when we were
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still working with this on the Comprehensive Plan amendment. The bottom line of that
report was that this is a rezoning and annexation, not a project, and so they listed all the
other things we'd still have to be held accountable for. But, in essence, they were listing
that since it's a rezoning and not a project, they have no problems with that -- with what
we had talked to them about. So, the bottom line, I guess, again, is that we were talking
in a none project mode and another discussion with them will, obviously, reduce those
cut cuts down, because they will be interested in that as well.
Rohm: Thank you, sir.
Thomason: If I could, I will give each of you a color copy of the map you have now.
Borup: The only other question I had, Mr. Chairman, is if we had anyone else here to
testify that was not part of the Alliance?
Newton-Huckabay: Well, I didn't think we were taking any public testimony?
Rohm: That is a good question and --
Borup: Well -- and if it would be something pertinent for them to consider before the
next meeting. I don't know if it would be or not.
Rohm: Absolutely. If you would like to come forward, sir.
Borup: And what I was interested in is something that would give some input for the
next meeting.
Romello: Well, my name is Scott Romello. I live at 3293 South Capula Way in
Meridian. I mean we have had, basically, a discussion here about the future of this
property and at 7:00 o'clock when I first walked in you dismissed all the opposition to
this property, so no public statements were going to be heard, so I had people from my
development Tuscany, there were people here from Sutherland Farms who got up and
walked out and at this point all we have sitting here are people who are for this project
and we have some -- we still have some concerns about this project and I feel like it's
being pushed through here at the end and they are assuming that there was a zoning
change and at this point as of the October meeting, there wasn't a zoning change
approved, so --
Borup: Yeah. We all understand all that stuff. Did you have anything pertinent that you
wanted to share?
Romello: Just that, basically -- I guess not. I mean I guess we -- we have had
everybody who was going to come out and say something against this has left at this
point and you're, basically, having a discussion about this without any of the people --
Borup: That's why I asked you to come up.
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Page 79 of 82
Romello: Yeah.
Borup: And you don't have anything to say, either, you're saying?
Romello: Not specifically -- not without all the people that were supposed to be here,
no.
Rohm: We are not going to dismiss anything that they have to offer. That's not the
intent of this at all. We just knew that we were not going to be in a position to act on this
-- on this application tonight and that's why we gave them the option of leaving, so that
they could come back at a date certain that this would be continued to and still have
every opportunity to testify at that point in time. Nobody is going to be eliminated from
the opportunity to testify.
Romello: Okay. Thank you.
Borup: And I was just hoping that you might have had some input on what they would
say, but --
Romello: Well, yeah, I have talked to a lot of the owners in Tuscany and I have talked
to Darrell Hines just recently and we are not -- we are still not satisfied with the plans.
As you have said previously, this is a very sketchy development. I mean I could go into
a lot of details, I know it's late in the evening, so I'm not going to go into a long
presentation like they did, but there are some concerns we have about this project and
the impact on the area and the fact that you're basically putting the commercial that's
already existing that was referenced earlier today, was all on a variance, and you're still
plugging a commercial right into existing brand new neighborhoods. Sutherland Farms
doesn't have an active homeowners association. Tuscany doesn't have an active
homeowners association, because those neighborhoods aren't even finished yet and
the developer hasn't released us to have that responsibility to even have an
organization --
Borup: Your objection is to the zoning, then?
Romello: Yes.
Borup: Okay.
Romello: Of course. That opposition is to the zoning.
Borup: All right.
Romello: I don't understand -- we just saw a development -- plans earlier tonight where
people were putting subdivisions into 20 acre parcels and somehow it's assumed that
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Page 80 of 82
this is automatically the best use for this property is to be commercial oriented and we
don't necessarily agree that that is an absolute as far as the homeowners in the area.
Borup: Okay. Thank you. Does someone else have --
Rohm: Yeah. In no way were we trying to circumvent anybody's opportunity to testify.
Romello: Okay. Thank you.
Rohm: Thank you.
Baird: Mr. Chair, Members of the Commission, just for the record, I want to restate that
the intent of the discussion tonight was to flush out the staff concerns and to let the
applicant know that more detail would be desired and that it would be more efficient to
have that detail be presented before we heard from the opposition, so that they could be
commenting on a more fully formed plan. So, indeed, when this does come back, there
will a full discussion of those for and those against and those who are neutral.
Rohm: Thanks, Mr. Baird. With that being said, I'd entertain a motion to continue this.
Zaremba: One question before we do that. Are we, as a group, comfortable directing
both staff and the applicant to work with the concept plan as presented, but give legal
descriptions for three different zones and try and eliminate at least one access on
Eagle? Is that all we are asking for or are we asking for more residential?
Rohm: I think from my perspective, just as you stated it is where I'd like to see them go
with the zonings for the three different areas and -- and reducing the access to Eagle
Road.
Borup: I think we are relying on -- on what the consensus was at the neighborhood
meeting. Without that neighborhood -- that's all we have to go by.
Hood: And Mr. Chair?
Borup: Even though we questioned it.
Hood: Commissioners, just to save -- and I talked with the applicant on -- all my days
this week are running together. They have a surveyor that's either a property in there or
they know one. If it's fairly inexpensive I guess it would be to have those zoning
designations. It would be just fine to press forward with the zoning as proposed now
and, then, after that meeting, the next meeting, prior to City Council we actually get the
legal descriptions here that show those different zones, because I would hate for them
to do new legals and, then, it changes something else and they need revised new legals
-- so, we can work under the assumption that we have got three different zones that
represent what's on this revised concept plan and I would be fine with that.
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Borup: Well, I'm very comfortable with that, too.
Hood: I mean I will just make a condition in there that prior to City -- you know, ten
days, at least, prior to City Council provide revised legal descriptions for the properties
as discussed at the meeting.
Moe: I guess my point would be as far as any -- our motion to continue, they can
comment anyway, for the simple fact, we still have a Public Hearing to hear when we go
back in. So, it's a simple matter of just doing a continuance to the 20th and go forward.
Rohm: I agree with that.
Borup: Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah, I don't think we need a legal description
either. I mean the road could shift two feet and, then, they have to do it all new.
Rohm: I'm open to a motion.
Newton-Huckabay: Mr. Chair, recommend we continue Public Hearing AZ 06-008,
request for annexation and zoning of 23.39 acres from RUT to C-C for South Eagle and
Victory Road Property Owners Alliance Annexation, to the date of April 20th, 2006.
Moe: Second.
Rohm: Moved and seconded that we continue AZ 06-008 to the regularly scheduled
meeting of April 20th, 2006. All those in favor say aye. Opposed same sign? Motion
carried. Thank you.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Rohm: I would entertain one more motion.
Moe: Mr. Chairman, I move that we adjourn.
Zaremba: Second.
Rohm: Moved and seconded that we adjourn. All those in favor say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Rohm: Good night.
April 11, 2006
RECEIVED
APR 1 3 2006 .
City Of l\L .
City ClerkeOl1dian
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C. Caleb Hood, Planning Manager
Meridian Planning Department
660 E. Watertower Lane, Suite 202
Meridian,ID 83642
RE: South Eagle and Victory Road Property Owner's Alliance
Dear Mr. Hood,
As you are well aware, we are a group of 5 property owners controlling 10 parcels of land in the
South Eagle Road and Victory Road area who have joined together for the purpose of rezoning.
Our project consists of a request for annexation with a Mixed Use - Community Zoning. We are
not proposing a development project and we have no plans for a specific development project at
this time. Our goal is to rezone our properties to their best use based on the changing
enviromnent around us and then to market our property to a buyer who will be bound by the
Development Agreement that comes out of the atmexation process.
To this end, the Alliance property owners are committed to signing a Development Agreement
that incorporates the information in the attached documents, as well as the infonnation presented
in earlier documents atld at earlier meetings. The Development Agreement will be a guide for
potential buyers, providing them with a clear direction on the use ofthis land.
hl preparation for the April 20th Planning & Zoning Commission meeting, we have pulled
together the following infOlmation.
. A concept map with our vision for the subject properties. Again, we are not proposing a
development project. Our map is a general picture ofthe feathering of uses we are proposing
as stated in our Guidelines for Positive Neighborhood Development.
. Descriptions for each zone (R4, UO, and C-C)
. An overview of our vision regarding the various uses within each zone.
We have incorporated the suggestions from the last P&Z COl11l11ission meeting as well as the
direction provided by you and Anna at our last meeting. We appreciate your assistance in this
matter.
Sincerely,
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Marty Thomason
2910 S. Eagle Road
Meridian, ID 83642
888-6997
SUMMARY
The South Eagle Road and Victory Road Property Alliance has applied for, and been approved
pending submission of this annexation application, an amendment to the Future Land Use Map
of the Comprehensive Plan. To complete the annexation application, the Alliance is providing a
more detailed concept map and description ofthe subject properties.
The Alliance members are not proposing a development project. Instead the Alliance members
are conmlitted to annexation and zoning in preparation for the sale of this land, based on its
highest and best use, to a buyer who will develop the land according to the standard uniform
development codes and regulations for the City of Meridian.
The following inform.ation is intended to provide the City of Meridian Planning Department,
Plamling and Zoning Conmlissioners, and City Council with a concept of how the land might be
developed.
Since the Alliance is not proposing a development project, we are not attempting to address all of
the Articles in Chapter 3 - Regulations Applying to all Districts at this time. This document will
simply provide our "vision" for the subject properties.
LOCA TION/DESCRIPTION
. Charles Axelrod (Mark Hartenstein representing) 3210 S. Eagle Road, Meridian, Idaho 83642
· Bob and Nedra Carpenter 3250 E. Victory Road and 3060 S. Eagle Road, Meridian, Idaho 83642
· John and Nita Sharp 3020 S. Eagle Road, Meridian, Idaho 83642
. Dan and Dolly Baughman 2990 S. Eagle Road, Meridian, Idaho 83642
. Marty and Leeta Thomason 2960 and 2910 S. Eagle Road, Meridian, Idaho 83642
See the attached legal descriptions for the area zonings.
GENERAL GUIDELINES
The Alliance property owners have committed to several guiding principles for pOSItIve
neighborhood growth. We have joined together for unified development that is coordinated with
good master planning, rather than individual site development without coordination. We
suggested a development approach that will feather land use intensity from residential to
professional office and business uses. The most intensive land uses will occur along Eagle Road
and Victory Road with less intensive land uses farther away from the arterials. The Alliance
property owners suggested constmcting an internal roadway system that runs north and south to
minimize curb cuts to Eagle Road. Finally, the intent of the Alliance is to facilitate a well
plalmed, neighborhood compatible office and business park.
Specifically, the Alliance members are committed to no "big box" type structures. We enVISiOn
building footprints that do not exceed 20,000 square feet.
The Alliance members believe there are advantages to selling their properties to one or two
development entities to ensure a coordinated development plan consistent with these guiding
principles.
CONCEPT MAP
After 2 neighborhood meetings, 2 Planning and Zoning Commission meetings, and several
discussions with Plmming Staff, the Alliance is seeking annexation and zoning for 23.39 acres
located in the South Eagle Road and Victory Road area. The Alliance proposes 3 zones for the
subject property: R4, L/O, and C-c.
The C-C zone will be further segregated by use with:
. Retail-type use along South Eagle Road and ViCtOlY Road frontage areas.
. Transitional, light office-type lIse along the proposed new north/south roadway.
. Community commercial-type use in the interior area.
A more detailed description of each area follows.
See the next page for the concept map.
Legal descliptions are attached at the end of the document.
AREA DESCRIPTION
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The Alliance, with input from the Planning
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proposes this area be zoned R4, similar to the
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Landscaping: Consistent with Sutherland
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Building and lot size: Consistent with
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Landscaping: A landscape buffer of 40 feet to
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Architecture: The Alliance enVISIOns
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buildings located at the comer of South Eagle
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The contiguous areas, separated by Victory Road, from Falcon Drive on the north to
Kibby's Kennels on the south, and from South Eagle Road on the west to the proposed
new north/south roadway on the east. The Alliance envisions a development approach
that involves different uses. See below for a description of each use and each area.
1. ARTERIAL ROADWAY LOTS
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Building size: The Alliance envisions multiple
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Access: At the request of Planning Staff, the
Alliance has limited South Eagle Road
accesses to 2 and Victory Road acc"esses to 2.
Appropriate access from interior roadways is
also envisioned by the Alliance.
Architecture: The Alliance envisions structures
similar to the recently constructed buildings
along Overland Road west of South Eagle
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Building size: The Alliance envisions multiple
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Access: From Victory Road onto the proposed
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access from interior roadways is envisioned by
the Alliance.
Architecture: The Alliance envisions structures
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zoning for interior roadways, building
separations, etc. Plaza and gathering areas
consistent with buildings and development
plans for a business park of this size are
envisioned by the Alliance members.
Building size: Building footprints will not
exceed 20,000 sq. ft.
Access: At the request of Planning Staff, the
Alliance has limited South Eagle Road
accesses to 2 and Victory Road accesses to 2.
Appropriate access from interior roadways is
also envisioned by the Alliance.
Architecture: The Alliance envisions structures
similar to the those being developed along
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Building size: The Alliance envisions multiple
structures starting around 2,500 sq. ft. but not
to exceed 20,000 sq. ft.
Access: The Alliance envisions no more than
2 curb cuts on Victory and 2 curb cuts on
South Eagle Road, all of which will be placed
in accordance with ACHD standards. Curb
cuts are expected to lead to parking areas.
Architecture: The Alliance envisions structures
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DESCRIPTION
FOR
R4Z0NE
This description is for the R4 ZONE as shown on the Eagle Alliance Map which
is a parcel ofland located in the SWl/4 of the SWl/4 Section 21 Township 3 North
Range 1 East Bosie Meridian Ada County, Idaho and more particularly described as
follows:
Commencing at the south east comer of said Section 21 T3N RIE BM, Thence
NOoOO'17"W along the west boundary of said Section 21 a distance of 1023.12 feet;
Thence S89025' 49"E for a distance of 667.16 feet to the centerline of a proposed street
which is the True Point of Beginning for the description;
Thence along a curve with a radius of 400 feet, a central angle of 6052'55", a long chord
bearing of S3 0 26' 45 "E and a long chord length of 48.02 feet;
Thence continuing along the centerline SOo 0' 17"E a distance of 530.92 feet;
Thence along a curve with a radius of 180 feet, a central angle of37034'45", a long chord
bearing ofS180 47' 06"W and a long chord length of 115.95 feet;
Thence continuing along the centerline S37034' 28"W a distan.ce of 105.49 feet;
Thence S52025' 31 "E a distance of25.00 feet to the easterly right of way line of said
road;
Thence S89033' 50"E a distance of211.87 feet to the westerly boundary of Sutherland
Farms Subdivision;
Thence NOoOO'I7"W a distance of787.77 feet;
Thence N89025'49"W a distance of 132.88 feet and back to the point of beginning.
Said parcel contains some 2.55 acres, more of less.
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DESCRIPTION
FOR
L-O ZONE
This description is for the L-O ZONE as shown on the Eagle Alliance Map which
is a parcel ofland located in the SWl/4 of the SWII4 Section 21 Township 3 North
Range 1 East Bosie Meridian Ada County, Idaho and more particularly described as
follows:
Commencing at the south east corner of said Section 21 T3N RIE BM, Thence
S89035'55"E along the south boundary of said Section 21 a distance of 530.00 feet which
is the True Point of Beginning for the description;
Thence N0024'07"E along the centerline ofa proposed road a distance of 139.47 feet;
Thence along a curve with a radius of 180 feet, a central angle of 37010'21", a long chord
bearing ofN180 59' I8"E and a long chord length of 114.74 feet;
Thence S52025' 31 "E a distance of25.00 feet to the easterly right of way line of said
road;
Thence S89033' SO"E a distance of211.87 feet to the westerly boundary of Sutherland
Farms Subdivision;
Thence SOoOO' 17"W a distance of233.00 feet to the southerly boundary of Section 21;
Thence N89035' 55"W along said southerly boundary a distance of270.02 feet and back
to the point of beginning.
Said parcel contains some 1.43 acres, more ofless.
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DESCRIPTION
FOR
C-C ZONE
This description is for the C-C ZONE as shown on the Eagle Alliance Map which is a
parcel ofland located in the SWII4 of the SWII4 Section 21 and the NWl/4 of the NW1/4
Section 28 Township 3 North Range 1 East Bosie Meridian Ada County, Idaho and more
particularly described as follows:
Commencing at the south east comer of said Section 21 T3N RIE BM, which is the True
Point of Beginning for the description;
Thence NO 000'17"W along the west boundary of said Section 21 a distance of 1 023 .12
feet;
Thence S89025' 49"E for a distance of 667.16 feet to the centerline of a proposed street;
Thence along a curve with a radius of 400 feet, a central angle of 6052'55", a long chord
bearing of S3 0 26' 45 "E and a long chord length of 48.02 feet;
Thence continuing along the centerline SOO 0' 17"E a distance of 530.92 feet;
Thence along a curve with a radius of 180 feet, a central angle of37"34'45", a long chord
bearing ofSl80 47' 06"W and a long chord length of 115.95 feet;
Thence continuing along the centerline S37034' 28"W a distance of 105.49 feet;
Thence along a curve with a radius of 180 feet, a central angle of37010'21 ", a long chord
bearing ofSl80 59' 18"W and a long chord length of 114.74 feet;
Thence continuing along the centerline S0024' 07"W a distance of 139.47 feet to the
south boundary of section 21;
Thence S0030' 59"W a distance of 167.00 feet;
Thence S 18019' 49"W a distance of 170.00 feet;
Thence N89035' 54"W a distance of336.72 feet;
Thence S0031' 10"W a distance of339.13 feet;
Thence N30009' 49"W a distance of 277.25 feet to the west boundary of Section 28;
Thence along the west boundary of Section 28 N0032' 39"E a distance of 429.15 feet and
back to the point of beginning.
Said parcel contains some 19.41 acres, more of less.
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Meridian City
Planning & Zoning Commission
Faxed to 888-6854 and 888-4218
Dear Commissioners:
I will be unable to attend tonight's hearing on this matter due to illness and
so I am submitting this letter as my testimony. As you may remember, I
previously appeared and testified at the comprehensive plan amendment
hearing, CPA 05-001. which is now before the City Council in May. I own the
property, 3300 Falcon Drive, which ;s immediately south of the Alliance
property and is therefore one of the most effected properties. I repeat my
remarks from that prior hearing, favoring the value of having a coordinated
and unified approach to development of the Eagle Road corridor in this area,
There have been a large number of housing units approved along, or close
to, Eagle Road south of Victory, continuing for a number of miles to the
south, with more units in the pipeline for approval. Additionally, development
;s also in progress along Victory Road to both east and west of Eagle Road.
Those units currently must travel to at least.the area of Overland Road, and
more often north of 1~84, to obtain services such as community retail and
office centers. This has contributed greatly to congestion on Eagle Road,
especially north of Overland.
Whether planned or not. Eagle Road has become a major center for office
and retail. In my opinion. the best approach to controlling the problems of
Eagle Road is to create community hubs for local retail and offices, allowing
shortertrips; sometimes even bicycle or foot access, to these uses. With the
large number of residential units in the area, there is a great need for offices
and small local retail establishments. The proposed Alliance development
would service that need. The development would also balance out traffic
and other problems, unlike large solid blocks of purely residential areas.
Since the Comprehensive Plan amendment is already approved by you and
before the City Council, it would be logical to approve this annexation and
let the City Council examine both in a unified manner. Developer
agreements should be negotiated with the City to protect surrounding
landowners. and prevent problems to the area, including traffic, but those
agreements need to be rational and balanced.
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RE: South Eagle and Victory Road Property Owner's Alllance (AZ-06..008)
Response to April14Ul PlanDing Department Report.
Dear Mr. Hood,
First of all, thank you for the recommendation for approval in your April141h report. The
Alliance members appreciate that you have studied our proposal and understand what we are
offering with this alliance.
Two issues we would like to clarify.
The first is in the Analysis Section (section 10) under the development agreement subheading,
the 9lh bullet point (my copy did not have numbers, only bullet icons) where the statement reads
"That the internal commercial buildings north of Victory Road shall not exceed 20,000 square
feet". This should be further olarified as ". . . . shall not exceed a 20,000 sq. ft. footprint." It is
not our intention to limit structures in this area to single level if a future developer desires
multilevel structures within the constraints of the C-C zoning.
The second clarification is regarding the property located at the southeast corner of S. Eagle
Road and Victory Road, Characterizing the properties adjacent to the southeast comer (Axelrod
property) as "low density residential" is misleading because:
I. There are only 2 parcels ad1acent to this property, each approximately 5 acres: one was
purchased by Trevor Roberts, developer of Sunderland Farms (5 units/acre) and who
plans to develop it and adjacent parcels; and, the other adjacent property is owned by the
Aldridges. Bob Aldridge spoke in support of our project at the October 17, 2005 P&Z
meeting and indicated he'd prefer office commercial to residential adjacent to his
property.
2. There will be a 5 lane intersection with a traffic signal at the corner of Victory and Eagle
with:
· 2-story four plexes on the opposing southwest comer,
· either commercial or high density residential on the northeast comer done by the
Alliance or some developer, and
· just south of the Aldridge property is an approved R15 elder-housing community.
There have been no negative comments voiced at either neighborhood meeting or either P&Z
meeting by property owners within the 300 ft notification radius regarding this property being
rezoned to C-C.
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April 19, 2006
RE: South Eagle aDd VIctory Road Property Owner's AUiance (Az..06-008)
RespoDse to April 14lh PlaDDlng Department Report,
Specifically, the wording regarding access points as mentioned in the development agreement
section, bullets 16/17, is too restrictive. The intent of the property owner (the Axelrod family) is
to develop the southeast comer as a pedestrian friendly retail~office complex. The 4 proposed
access points, subject to ACHD approval, would facilitate access and facilitate incorporating a
pedestrian plaza and structures clustered along Victory and Eagle at the north and west ends of
the property closest to the comer.
The final item addressed with this letter is the statement on page 9 regarding legal descriptions
for the property being stamped by an Idaho State certified professional land surveyor. These are
attached.
Again, Caleb, thank you for all of your help and support through this process. Weare grateful
for your assistance.
Sincerely,
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888~6997
2910 S. Eagle Road
Meridian,ID 83642
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DESCRIPTION
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C~C ZONE
This description is for the C-C ZONE as shown on the Eagle Alliance Map which is a
parcel ofland located in the SW1I4 of the SWl/4 Section 21 and the NWl/4 of the NW1I4
Section 28 Township 3 North Range 1 East Dosie Meridian Ada County, Idaho and more
particularly described as follows:
Commencing at the south east comer of said Section 21 T3N RIE BM, which is the True
Point of Beginning for the description;
Thence NOoOO'17"W along the west boundary ofssid Section 21 a distance of 1023.12
feet;
Thence 889025' 49"E for a distance of 667.16 feet to the centerline of a proposed street;
Thence along a cW'Ve with a radius of 400 feet. a central angle of 6052'55". a long chord
bearing of 83" 26' 45"E and a long chord length of 48.02 feet;
Thence continuing along the oenterline SO" 0' 17"E a distance of 530.92 feet;
Thence along a curve with a radius of 180 feet, a central angle of 37"34'45". a long chord
bearing ofSt8" 47' 06"W and a long chord length of 115.95 feet;
Thence continuing along the centerline S37"34' 28"W a distance of 105.49 feet;
Thence along a curve with a radius of 180 feet, a central angle of 3 7"10'21", a long chord
bearing of818" 59' 18"W and a long chord length of 114.74 feet;
Thence continuing along the centerline 80"24' 07"W a distance of 139.47 feet to the
south bOWldary of section 21;
Thence SO"30' 59"W a distance of 167.00 feet;
Thence S 18"19' 49"W a distance of 170.00 feet;
Thence N89"35' 54"W a distance of 336.72 feet;
Thence SO"31' 10"W a distance of339.13 feet;
Thence N30"09' 49"W a distance of 277 2S feet to the west boundary of Section 28;
Thence along the west boundary of Section 28 NO"32' 39"E a distance of 429.15 feet and
back to the point of beginning.
Said parcel contains some 19.41 acres, more ofless.
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DESCRIPTION
FOR
L-O ZONE
This description is for the L-O ZONE as shown on the Eagle Alliance Map which
is a parcel ofland located in the SWl/4 of the SWl/4 Section 21 Township 3 North
Range 1 East Bosie Meridian Ada COWlty, Idaho and more particularly described as
follows:
Commencing at the south east comer of said Section 21 T3N RIB BM, Thence
S89'35'5S"E along the south boundary of said Section 21 a distance of530.00 feet which
is the True Point of Beginning for the description;
Thence NO"24'07"E along the centerline ofa proposed road a distance of 139.47 feet;
Thence along a curve with a radius of 180 feet, a central angle of37010'21 ", a long chord
bearing ofNIS" 59' IS"E and a long chord length of 114.74 feet;
Thence 852"25' 31 liE a distance of25.00 feet to the easterly right of way line ofsaid
road;
Thence 889"33' SO"E a distance of 211.87 feet to the westerly boundary of Sutherland
Fanns Subdivision;
Thence SO'OO' 17"W a distance of233.00 feet to the southerly boundary of Section 21;
Thence N89035' S5"W along said southerly boundary a distance of270.02 feet and back
to the point of beginning.
Said parcel contains some 1.43 acres, more of less.
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DESCRIPTION
FOR
R4Z0NE
This description is for the R4 ZONE as shown on the Eagle Alliance Map which
is a parcel ofland located in the SWl/4 of the SWl/4 Section 21 Township 3 North
Range 1 East Bosie Meridian Ada County. Idaho and more particularly described as
follows:
Commencing at the south east comer of said Section 21 TIN R1E BM, Thence
NO"00'17"W along the west boWldary of said Section 21 a distance of 1023.12 feet;
Thence 889"25' 49"E for a distance of 667.16 feet to the centerline of a proposed street
which is the True Point of Beginning for the description;
Thence along a curve with a radius of 400 feet, a central angle of 6' 52'55/1, a long chord
bearing of83" 26' 45"E and a long chord length of48.02 feet;
Thence continuing along the centerline SO" 0' 17"E a distance of 530.92 feet;
Thence along a curve with a radius of 180 feet, a central angle of37'34'4S/I, a long chord
bearing of818" 47' 06"W and a long chord length of 115.95 feet;
Thence continuing along the centerline S37"34' 28"W a distance of 105.49 feet;
Thence SS2 "25' 31 liE a distance of 2S .00 feet to the easterly right of way line of said
road;
Thence 889"33' SOliE a distance of211.87 feet to the westerly boundary of8utherland
Fanns Subdivision;
Thence NO"OO'17"W a distance of 787.77 feet;
Thence N89'25'49"W a distance of 132.88 feet and back to the point of beginning.
Said parcel contains some 2.55 acres, more of less.
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the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission please submit your
comments and recommendtions to the City of Meridian
TRANSMITTALS TO AGENCIES FOR COMMENTS ON
DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS WITH THE CITY OF MERIDIAN
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IDAHO
MAYOR
Tammy de Weerd
CXTY COUNCXL MEMBERS
Keith Bird
Joseph W. Borton
Charles M, Rountree
Shaun Wardle
Attn: Planning Department, by: March 9, 2006
Transmittal Date: February 16, 2006 File No.: AZ. 06-006; PP 06-005
Hearing Date: March 16, 2006
Request: Annexation and Zoning of 23.39 acres from RUT to C-C
(Community Business District) for the South Eagle and Victory
Road Property Owners Alliance Annexation
CITY DEPARTMENTS
City AttorneylHR
703 Main Street
898-5506 (City Attorney)
898-5503 (HR)
Fax 884-8723
Fire
540 E. Franklin Road
888-1234/ fax 895-0390
By: South Eagle and Victory Road Property Owners Alliance Annexation
Location of Property or Project: east side of Eagle Road on both the
north and south sides of Victory Road
Parks & Recreation
11 W. Bower Street
888-3579 / fax 898-5501
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_ David Mae (no FP) 'n 1?r Meridian Post OffiCe(FPIPP only)
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Shaun Wardle, CIC ~ .eJ~l'tennountain Gas (FPIPP only)
- Water Department - Bureau of Reclamation (FPJPP only)
7Sewer Department Idaho Transportation Dept. (No FP)
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Building Department Meridian Development Corp.
Fire Department Hi~torical Preservation Comm.
Police Department
City Attorney
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SUTHERLAND FARM HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION
14148 South Can-Ada Road
Melba, Idaho 83641
TelephonelFax: 208-362-3339
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Dear City Clerk:
Regarding application AZ06-008 for South Eagle Road and Victory Road by Property
Owner's Alliance for Comprehensive Plan Amendment, please be advised the Sutherland
Farm Homeowners Association opposes the proposed Comprehensive Plan Amendment
because it is a substantial departure from what was initially planned.
Sincerely,
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Trevor C. Roberts, President
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Barbara Shiffer
From; Sandy Maple [smaple@twlgafoundetlon.org]
Sent: Thursday, March 16.2006 10:14 AM
To: Barbara Shiffer
Subject: Proposed Development at Victory and Eagle
As a resident of the Tuscany subdivision just south of Victory off Eagle, I OPPOSE any
change allowing proposed commercial development for the 5 properties owned by the South
Eagle Road & Victory Road Property Owners Alliance. We already have both the Silverstone
and the EI Dorado Business complexes just to the north, as well as a lot of commercial
developments on Overland. According to the 2002 Meridian Comprehensive plan,
"A population growth forecast included in Chapter IV estimates that from 2000 to 2020 the
City's population may be expected to increase by 48 percent. However. even with the
projected Increase, it is estimated there are adequate residential areas and commercial
capabilities within the Impact Area."
Why the change? Please explain to me (and my neighbors) the reasoning behind this
proposal.
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3031 E. Calabria Dr.
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PUBLIC HEARING
SIGN-UP SHEET
DATE
April 20, 2006
ITEM #
9
PROJECT NUMBER AZ 06-008
PROJECT NAME South Eagle and Victory Rd. Property Owners Alliance Annexation
NAME (PLEASE PRINT)
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MERIDIAN PLANNING & ZONING MEETING
March 16, 2006
APPLICANT South Eagle and Victory Road Property Owners Alliance ITEM NO. 1 9
REQUEST Annexation and Zoning of 23.29 acres from RUT to C-C zone for South
Eagle and Victory Road Property Owners Alliance - east side of Eagle Road on both
the north and south sides of Victory Road
AGENCY
COMMENTS
CITY CLERK:
CITY ENGINEER:
CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR:
CITY ATTORNEY
CITY POLICE DEPT:
See attached Staff Comments
CITY FIRE DEPT:
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CITY BUILDING DEPT:
CITY WATER DEPT:
CITY SEWER DEPT:
CITY PARKS DEPT:
MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT:
SANITARY SERVICES:
ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT:
CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
No Comment
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION:
SETTLERS'IRRIGATlON:
IDAHO POWER:
INTERMOUNTAIN GAS:
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CITY OF MERIDIAN PLANNING DEP ARTMENT STAFF REPORT FOR THE HEARING DATE OF MARCH 16, 2006
SUBJECT:
South Eagle and Victory Road Property
Owner's Alliance Annexation
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Annexation and Zoning of23.39 acres from RUT (Ada County) to C-C
(Community Business District), by the South Eagle Road and Victory Road
Property Owner's Alliance
STAFF REPORT
TO:
FROM:
Hearing Date: 3/16/06
Planning & Zoning Commission
C. Caleb Hood, Current Planning Manager
Meridian Planning Department
208-884-5533
1. SUMMARY DESCRIPTION OF APPLICANT'S REQUEST
The applicant, the South Eagle Road and Victory Road Property Owner's Alliance, has applied
for Annexation and Zoning (AZ) to C-C (Community Business District) for 23.39 acres of
property currently zoned RUT in Ada County. The Alliance is comprised of five different
property owners (who own ten individual tax parcels) on the east side of S. Eagle Road, generally
grouped north and south of the intersection of S. Eagle and Victory Road. This site is currently
rural residential with several single-family homes and accessory buildings. The applicant is not
proposing any land use, development or subdivision at this time. Instead, the applicant is
proposing to annex the property with Development Agreement provisions that would guide future
development of this property. The applicant has submitted a general Concept Map for the subject
property. The subject property is within the Urban Service Planning Area.
In 2005, the South Eagle Road and Victory Road Property Owner's Alliance (represented by
Wayne S. Forrey), applied for an amendment to the Future Land Use Map of the Comprehensive
Plan (CPA-05-00l). The Alliance proposed to amend the Map designation from Low and
Medium Density Residential to Mixed Use-Regional for approximately 50 acres of land. The
CPA application proposed to amend an additional 30 acres of land north of their land holdings,
including two other county parcels and several parcels in the city limits that lie within Sutherland
Fanus and Southstone Subdivisions. Staff recommended denial of CP A-05-0 11. However, at the
October 17, 2005, Planning & Zoning Commission public hearing for the CPA, the Commission
voted to recommend approval of the subject CPA with the following provisions: 1) That the new
Map designation be Mixed Use - Community, not Mixed Use. Regional; 2) Recording a
Development Agreement which binds the applicant to the commitments listed in the document
called "Guiding Principles for Positive Neighborhood Development"; 3) Wait on fmal action on
the CPA until an annexation application has been submitted; and, 4) Hold a neighborhood
meeting before submitting a development application.
As requested by the Commission, the Alliance has submitted an annexation application (the
Alliance has not submitted a preliminary plat, conditional use pennit, or any other concurrent
development application). The subject annexation application includes just over 23 of the 50
acres that were a part of the CPA application (only those properties which the members own).
Prior to submitting the annexation application, the Alliance held a neighborhood meeting with
property owners in the surrounding area. The applicant has re-submitted the "Guiding Principles
for Positive Neighborhood Development" for inclusion within a Development Agreement.
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2. SUMMARY RECOMMENDATION
The subject Annexation and Zoning application was submitted to the Planning Department for
review. By City Ordinance, the Planning & Zoning Commission makes recommendation to the
Council on Annexation and Zoning applications. Any comments related to the Annexation
application (AZ-06-008) will be included in the Commission's recommendation to the Council.
After reviewing the subiect application. staff finds that more information is needed for staff to
make a final recommendation to the Commission. For instance. the submitted application requests
C-C zoning for all 23.39 acres. However. on the submitted Concept Map. R-4 and L-O zoning is
shown. Staff would like to see the applicant modify the submitted legal description by providing
separate descriptions for each zone. and to modify the Concept Map to show what the vision is
for this property (See Section 10 below). Further. staff finds that there are several aspects of the
proposal that do not comply with the proposed Mixed Use - Community policies of the
Comprehensive Plan. Rather than recommending denial at this point. staff is recommending that
the Commission hold a hearing and direct the aoplicant to meet with staff and provide more detail
on how this site will develop. After this meeting. staff will re-evaluate the proposal and make a
recommendation to the Commission. which includes the required Annexation Findings. Below. in
Sections 8 andlO. staff has provided a list of the items that should be addressed by the applicant
in a revised concept map. Staff is recommending that the Commission continue the subiect
applications to allow the applicant to redesign the proiect. incorporating the items noted Section
10. Analysis below.
3. PROPOSED MOTION (to be considered after the public hearing)
Denial
After considering all staff, applicant and public testimony, I move to recommend denial to the
City Council of File Number AZ-06-008, and direct staff to prepare findings for denial for the
following reasons: (you should state specific reasons for denial of the annexation request.)
Continuance
After considering all staff, applicant and public testimony, I move to continue File Number AZ-
06-008 to the hearing date of (insert continued hearing date here) for the following reason(s):
(you should state specific reason(s) for continuance.)
4. APPLICATION AND PROPERTY FACTS
a. Site Address/Location: 3210 S. Eagle Road, 3020 S Eagle Road, 2990 S. Eagle Road, 2960 S.
Eagle Road, and 3250 E. Victory Road. The parcels north of Victory Road lie within
Township 3N, Range IE, Section 21. The parcel south of Victory Road lies within Township
3N, Range IE, Section 28. All properties are on the east side of S. Eagle Road.
b. Property Owners of Record (Alliance members):
Marty and Leeta Thomason (2910 & 2960 S. Eagle Rd.)
Daniel and Dolly Baughman (2990 S. Eagle Rd.)
John and Nita Sharp (3020 S. Eagle Rd.)
Robert and Nedra Carpenter (3060 S. Eagle Rd. & 3250 E. Victory Rd.)
Mark Hartenstein representing Charles Axelrod (3210 S. Eagle Rd.)
c. Applicant:
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South Eagle Road and Victory Road Property Owner's Alliance
3100 S. Eagle Rd.
Meridian, Idaho 83642
d. Representative: Wayne S. Forrey, AICP, Pathway Development
e. Present Zoning: RUT/Ada County (all Alliance member parcels)
f. Present Comprehensive Plan Designation: Medium and Low Density Residential (proposed
for Mixed Use - Community with CPA-05-00l)
g. Description of Applicant's Request:
23.39 acres from RUT to C-C.
h. Applicant's Statement/Justification (see Applicant's application and letter): Wayne Forrey,
representing the Alliance, states in the application cover memo that the Alliance property
owners have applied for, and been approved pending submission of this annexation
application, an amendment to the Future Land Use Map of the Comprehensive Plan. There are
currently no developers involved with the property owners and no projects have been proposed
to the Alliance members. This annexation request is the result of the motion made by
Commissioners Newton-Huckabay, Borup, and Zaremba during the October 17,2005
Meridian P&Z special meeting.
The applicant is requesting annexation approval of
5. PROCESS FACTS
a. The subject application will in fact constitute an annexation as determined by City Ordinance.
By reason ofthe provisions of the Meridian City Code Title 11 Chapter 5, a public hearing is
required before the City Council on this matter.
b. Newspaper notifications published on: February 27,2006 and March 13, 2006
c. Radius notices mailed to properties within 300 feet on: February 22, 2006
d. Applicant posted notice on site by: March 7, 2006
6. LAND USE
a. Existing Land Use(s): There are existing homes, limited office/retail businesses, and other
outbuildings on the subject site.
b. Description of Character of Surrounding Area: The immediate vicinity is transitioning
rapidly to urban-scale development. The I-84/Eagle Road interchange is less than a mile to the
north and has a significant influence on the area. Thousand Springs and Sutherland Farms
Subdivisions are adjacent to the subject property and both of these residential developments
are annexed, averaging 3.5 to 4 dwelling units per acre with mid-to-high end housing. A new
Meridian Fire recently opened just south of the Ridenbaugh Canal on the west side of Eagle
Road. As one travels south from Overland Road, the El Dorado and Silverstone mixed use
developments are currently being built-out, intended to serve as regional employment,
hospitality, office and service centers with more than two million square feet of building area
expected between the two projects. Traffic generated from the Tuscany Lakes project on the
south side of Victory Road (approx. 450 units) also strongly impacts S. Eagle Road in this
area.
c. Adjacent Land Use and Zoning:
1. North: Single-family home/kennel, zoned RUT in Ada County and approved
Sutherland Farm Subdivision, zoned R-4(approved for commercial uses as a
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use exception)
2. East: Approved Sutherland Farms Subdivision, zoned RA (north of Victory Rd.)
and Golden Eagle Estates, zoned RUT in Ada County (south of Victory Rd.)
3. South: Approved senior assisted living facility, zoned R-8 (south of Falcon Dr.) and
rural residential in Golden Eagle Estates, zoned RUT (Ada County)
4. West: Existing Thousand Springs Subdivision, zoned R~4lMeridian City, and rural
residential, zoned RUT/Ada County near Victory Road. Medford
Subdivision (proposed as R-8 for single and multi-family) is proposed at the
southwest comer of Eagle and Victory Roads.
d. History of Previous Actions: As mentioned above, the subject property is part of the
recent request to amend the Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use Map designation of this
area (CPA-OS-OOl).
e. Existing Constraints and Opportunities:
1. Public Works
Location of sewer: Sewer is constructed in Sutherland Farms Subdivision stub
streets adjacent to the property north of Victory Road. This property drains to
the Five Mile Trunk and capacity is available. The property to the north of
Victory would drain to the mains extended through the Tuscany
Development.
Location of water: Available in S. Eagle Road and local streets
2. Vegetation: There are numerous existing trees on the subject properties that should
either be preserved or mitigated for at the time of development. The rest ofthe site is
primarily used for rural residential purposes.
3. Flood plain: N/A
4. Canals/Ditches Irrigation: The McDonald Lateral courses across the Carpenter
parcels at the northeast comer of the EagleNictory intersection. This is a sizeable
facility that may impact future development site plans on these parcels.
5. Hazards: Staff is not aware of any potential hazards on this site.
6. Proposed Zoning: C-C for all 23.39 acres. However, the submitted Concept Map
shows R-4 and L~O zoned property. Consistent with the mixed use designation, the
submitted Concept Map, and the adjacent developments, staff is recommending that
portions of this site be zoned for residential and office uses.
7. Size of Property: 23.39 acres
f. Sununary of Proposed Streets and/or Access: Although no development is proposed at this
time, the submitted Concept Map shows a north-south access road located near the east
boundary. During the public hearing for the Comprehensive Plan Amendment, Wayne Forrey
testified that he imagined that there would be one additional access point to Eagle Road
between Easy Jet Drive and Victory Road for this property. Staff is supportive of the extension
of E. Publisher Road from Sutherlund Farms. However, there are 4 accesses shown on the
Concept Map to Eagle Road, and 3 accesses shown to Victory Road. Staff believes that this is
too many access points to the adjacent roadway system, and recommends that access points be
limited (please see Analysis and Comprehensive Plan sections below).
g. Landscaping:
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1. Width of street buffer(s): Per City Code (UDC Table ll-2B-3), a 25-foot wide
landscape street buffer is required adjacent to Eagle Road and Victory Road, which
are both arterial roadways.
2. Width ofbuffer(s) between land uses: Per City Code (UDC Table ll-2B-3) a 25-
foot wide landscape buffer is required between C-C zoned properties and residential
uses/zones.
h. Required Commercial Standards: C-C
Setbacks
Landscape (Local/Commercial Street)
Arterial Road (Eagle & Victory)
Collector Street
Maximum Building Height
Proposed Required
NA 10'
NA 25'
NA 20'
NA 50'
7. COMMENTS MEETING
On February 2,2006, a joint agency and departments meeting was held with service providers in
this area. The agencies and departments present include: Meridian Fire Department, Meridian
Parks Department, Meridian Public Works Department, and the Sanitary Services Company. The
Meridian Fire Department was the only department or agency to provide comments. These
comments are "standard" and have not been included as conditions of annexation. Once a
development planes) is submitted staff will provide the applicant with specific comments and
conditions from all commenting agencies and departments. NOTE: Public Works staff did
recommend that the applicant be required to contact the Boise Project Board of Control to see if
they have any concerns with the proposal. Staff is recommending that the applicant contact the
Board to see what, if any comments they have at this time.
8. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES AND GOALS
This property is currently designated "Medium Density Residential" and "Low Density
Residential" on the Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use Map. However, in October of2005, the
Planning & Zoning Commission voted to amend the designation of this property to "Mixed Use -
Community." Staff is evaluating the subject annexation request under the assumption that this
area will obtain a mixed use designation. In Chapter VII of the Comprehensive Plan, the mixed
use designation is defined in part as an area that is situated in highly visible or transitioning parts
of the City where innovative and flexible design opportunities are encouraged. The Mixed Use-
Community designation allows residential density between 3 and 15 dwelling units per acre, up to
200,000 square feet of non-residential building area, and is intended to allow a broad range of
uses.
Staff finds the following Comprehensive Plan policies to be applicable to this property and apply
to the subject property (staff analysis in italics below policy):
. Require that development projects have planned for the provision of all public services.
(Chapter VII, Goal III, Objective A, Action 1)
When the City established its Area of City Impact, it planned to provide City sen;ices to the
subject property. The City of Meridian plans to provide municipal sen;ices to the lands
proposed to be annexed in the following manner:
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. Sanitary sewer and water service will be extended to the project at the
developer's expense.
. The subject lands currently lie within the jurisdiction of the Meridian Rural Fire
District. Once annexed the lands will be under the jurisdiction of the Meridian
City Fire Department, who currently shares resource and personnel with the
Meridian Rural Fire Department.
. The subject lands currently lie within the jurisdiction of the Ada County Sheriff's
Office. Once annexed the lands will be serviced by the Meridian Police
Department (MPD).
. The roadways adjacent to the subject lands are currently owned and maintained
by the Ada County Highway District (ACHD). This service will not change.
. The subject lands are currently serviced by the Meridian School District #2. This
service will not change.
. The subject lands are currently serviced by the Meridian Library District. This
service will not change and the Meridian Library District should suffer no
revenue loss as a result of the subject annexation.
Municipal, fee-supported, services will be provided by the Meridian Building Department,
the Meridian Public Works Department, the Meridian Water Department, the Meridian
Wastewater Department, the Meridian Planning Department, Meridian Utility Billing
Services, and Sanitary Services Company.
. "Protect existing residential properties from incompatible land use development on adjacent
parcels." (Chapter VII, Goal IV, Objective C, Action 1)
This policy touches on one of the primary objectives of zoning - to protect the public health
and welfare. It is the City's obligation to ensure existing properties (both county and city
properties) are protected from harmful, disturbing or unnecessary encroachments. While it
may be possible to design non-residential projects that are compatible with residential, it
does require more time, energy and money from all parties involved (both private and public)
to design and enforce these situations.
The applicant is proposing a commercial zone adjacent to proposed and established
residential areas. There are existing homes in Sutherland Farms to the east of the subject
site, south (Golden Estates), and north (County parcel). Stafffinds that to vrotect the existinf!
sinf!le-familv homes to the east and north. additional residential zones/uses and land use
buffers should be constructed alonf! the eastern and northern boundaries of this vrovertv.
The applicant has written into the proposed DA provisions a requirement that Alliance
properties located next to the residential uses in Suther/and Farms will provide either a
residential buffer with the same size lots, or a 40 foot wide landscape buffer. Please see the
Analysis section below.
. "Allocate and identify locations/inventory for industrial and commercial business parks."
(Chapter IV, Action 3, Objective C)
Staff believes that the proposed proportion of commercial zoning to residential zoning for
this property is not appropriate. Based on recent inventOr\! numbers. staff believes that this
area should be allotted limited commercial zoninf!. not a ma;oritv. Staff also believes that
there is already an adequate commercial land supply for the total build-out population of
Meridian.
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. "Permit new. . .commercial developments only where urban services can be reasonably
provided at the time of final approval and development is contiguous to the City." (Chapter
IV, Goal I, Objective A, Action 6)
Municipal water, solid waste and other services exist to this area of Meridian.
. "Locate new community commercial areas on arterials. . .near residential areas in such a way
as to complement with adjoining residential areas." (Chapter VII, Goal III, Objective D,
Action 3)
Both Eagle Road and Victory Road are designated arterial roadways. Based on the lack of
detailed information vrovided with the submitted Concevt Mav. staff is unable to find that the
subiect avvlication will comvliment the adioinine residential areas.
. "Restrict curb cuts and access points on collectors and arterial streets." (Chapter VII, Goal
IV, Objective D, Action 2)
Staff is recommending that access points be restricted to both Eagle Road and Victory Road.
Staff is not suvvortive of the vroTJOsed access voint locations to Eazle Road and Victory
Road. Staff recommends that access to this site be vrimarily vrovided by the future internal
roadway/driveway system and not Eazle Road and Victory Road when this vrovertv develovs.
See Analysis below.
. "Review new development for appropriate opportunities to connect to local roads and
collectors in adjacent developments." (Chapter VI, Goal II, Objective A, Action 13)
A stub street from Sutherland Farms, Publisher Street, is provided to this property. Currently
there are no opportunities to connect to any other roads in adjacent properties. Staff believes
that when the roadway/driveway system is constructed. this site should be required to extend
Publisher Street into the site and out to Victory Road and Eazle Road.
Staff also finds the following 2002 Comprehensive Plan text policies to be applicable to this
application:
· "The capacity of arterial. . .roadways can be greatly diminished by excessive driveway
cormections to the roadways. The City should cooperate with ACHD to minimize access
points on arterial. . .roadways as development applications are reviewed." (Chapter VI, page
72)
. "Develop methods, such as cross-access agreements, frontage roads, to reduce the number of
existing access points on to arterial streets." (Chapter VI, page 79)
Staff finds that the proposed C-C zoning designation is not generally harmonious with and in
accordance with the Comprehensive Plan. Staff recommends that the Commission and Council rely
on any verbal or written testimony that may be provided at the public hearing when determining if the
applicant's zoning and development request is appropriatefor this property.
9. UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE
a. Allowed Uses in the Commercial Districts: UDC Table 11-2B-2 lists the permitted, accessory,
and conditional uses in the C-C zoning district.
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b. Purpose Statement of Zone: The purpose ofthe Commercial Districts is to provide for the
retail and service needs of the community in accord with the Meridian Comprehensive Plan.
Four Districts are designated which differ in the size and scale of commercial structures
accommodated in the district, the scale and mix of allowed commercial uses, and the location
of the district in proximity to streets and highways.
10. ANALYSIS
a. Analysis of Facts Leading to Staff Recommendation:
1. AZ Application:
Commercial Zoning: One of the primary objectives of zoning is to protect the public health,
safety and welfare. It is the City's obligation to ensure existing properties are protected from
hannful, disturbing or unnecessary encroachments. While it is possible to design non-residential
projects that are compatible with residential uses, it does require more time, energy and money
from all parties involved (both private and public) to design and enforce these situations. Because
the applicant is proposing commercial zoning adjacent to existing residential, staff is charged
with ensuring that the proposed zoning and uses are compatible. As proposed. staff does not
believe that the proposed zoning districts and future uses will be compatible with the surrounding
area. and is in the best interest of the City. Staff believes that additional residential zones/uses and
land use buffers should be constructed alOlll! the eastern. southern and northern boundary of this
property. to ensure compatibility.
By adding an additional 23 acres of land designated for primarily commercial use to the City's
inventory, staff is concerned with a potential over-supply of commercially zoned land, especially
for office uses. Meridian's 2005 office vacancy rate has been noted by the Chamber of Commerce
and other local real estate sources to continue to be high (between 9% and 25%, depending on the
sub-area). While staff understands the applicant's argument that Eagle Road is a high visibility
corridor and opportunistic for both office and retail, staff is concerned about extending too much
more retail and office uses south of the Ridenbaugh Canal and believe other locations are better
suited for these uses.
In the area south of 1-84 between Locust Grove Road and a half mile east of Eagle Road, there is
over 250 acres of vacant or under-developed land designated as either Commercial or MU-
Regional on the Future Land Use Map. This does not include any of the Silverstone or El Dorado
land or any land north of 1-84. All of this property is within a 1 Yz mile radius of the subject
properties.
Staff finds that the subject application only proposes approximately 2.5 acres of residential
zoning (7 lots) on the entire 23 acres. Staff questions how the sliver of property on Eagle Road,
south of Victory will develop with C-C zoning, being directly adjacent to low density residential
land uses. Further, no provisions have been provided for the re-deyelopment of the properties to
the north of the subject site and east in Golden Eagle Estates; C-C zoning is proposed adjacent to
them. If zoning is approved as proposed by the applicant, staff believes that these adjacent
properties will also seek a commercial zone, thereby furthering the oversupply of commercially
zoned properties. To provide a mix of uses in this area proposed for mixed use - community. and
to allow for a better transition from the existing residential uses to the subiect site. staff is
recommending that at least Yz ofthe subiect property be zoned for residential uses.
Concept Map:
Detail: When the CPA application was submitted in 2005, the Alliance intended to develop a
business campus similar to the El Dorado and Silverstone developments to the north. All property
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owners were committed to coordinate future development plans. A positive and encouraging
aspect of the Alliance's application was that owners of contiguous, smaller parcels were
coordinating their development plans and appeared to be willing to submit a single planned
development/site plan. This kind of cooperation is strongly encouraged by Staff, the Commission
and the Council and helps to facilitate future driveway and roadway access points to Eagle Road
and Victory Road and avoids fragmented development. The submitted Concept Map does not
provide the detail nor show the cooperation of property owners that is needed to evaluate the
merits of this project, to ensure that it is not a fragmented development, or the ability to analyze
the impacts to the surrounding area. Further, as a part of annexation only request, the City
generally ties the applicant to the submitted concept plan, or at least some of the concepts
proposed with the plan. There are really no concepts to include in a Development Agreement, if
this project were to be annexed with the submitted Concept Map.
When the Commission recommended approval of CPA-05.001. and recommended that the
Council not approve the CPA until an annexation application could catch uP. staff believes that
the Commissioners were anticipating being able to review a plan for this propertv that would help
them envision how this property would develop. Other than access points and a new north. south
roadway. staff finds that there is not enough detail or concepts to evaluate the viability of the
requested zoning and concept plan.
Access: During the public hearing for the Comprehensive Plan Amendment, Wayne Forrey
testified that he imagined that there would be one additional access point to Eagle Road, between
Easy Jet Drive and Victory Road, for this property. However, there are 4 accesses shown on the
Concept Map to Eagle Road, and 3 accesses shown to Victory Road. Staff believes that this is too
many access points to the adjacent arterial roadways. Staff recommends that Eagle Road access
points be restricted to: one full access (public street) between Easy Jet Drive and Victory Road.
and one right-in/right-out driveway south of Victory Road. if approved bv ACHD. Staff further
recommends that Victory Road access be restricted to one full access. 4-way intersection (public
street). in a location approved bv ACHD.
A stub street from Sutherland Farms, Publisher Street, is provided to this property. Currently
there are no opportunities to connect to any other roads in adjacent properties. Staff believes that
when the roadway/driveway system is constructed. this site should be required to extend
Publisher Street into the site and out to Victory Road and Eagle Road.
Retail operations typically want their own driveways or at least more frequent curb cuts to
arterials than residential uses. Residential subdivision developers are typically less concerned
with direct access and put less pressure on both the City and ACHD to construct them. This is
another reason why staff is recommending that this property be developed with more residential
zoning/uses.
Landscaping: Per City Code (UDC Table ll-2B- 3), a 25-foot wide landscape street buffer is
required adjacent to Eagle Road and Victory Road, which are both arterial roadways. Per City
Code (UDC Table ll-2B-3) a 25-foot wide landscape buffer is required between C-C zoned
properties and residential uses/zones. At a minimum. the revised concept plan should show
landscape street buffers and land use buffers.
Legal Description: The application and submitted legal description request C-C zoning for all
23.39 acres. However, on the submitted Concept Map, R-4 and L-O zoning is shown. Prior to the
next public hearing. staff recommends that revised legal descriptions that include multiple zones.
includin2: at least 12 acres of residential zonill!!. be submitted to the Planninl! Department.
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b. Staff Recommendation: Staff recommends that the Commission continue the subiect
apolication AZ-06-008, with the provisions that the apolicant meet with staff to discuss a new
Concept Plan for this site that includes the provisions listed in the Analysis section of the
Staff Report above.
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SUTHERLAND FARM HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION
14148 South Can-Ada Road
Melba, Idaho 83641
TelephonelF.ax: Z()S..361.-3339
March 13, 2005
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Dear City Clerk:
Regarding application AZ06~008 for South Eagle Road and Victory Road by Property
Owner's Alliance for Compreh.ensive Plan Amendment, please be advised 1he Sutherland
Farm Homeowners Association opposes the proposed Comprehensive Plan Amendment
because it is a substantial departure from what was initially planned.
Sincerely,
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Trevor C. Roberts, President
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