HomeMy WebLinkAbout2022-12-13 Work Session Meridian City Council Work Session December 13, 2022.
A Meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 4:37 p.m., Tuesday,
December 13, 2022, by Mayor Robert Simison.
Members Present: Robert Simison, Joe Borton, Luke Cavener, Treg Bernt, Jessica
Perreault, Brad Hoaglun and Liz Strader.
Also present: Chris Johnson, Bill Nary, Joy Hall, Crystal Campbell, Steve Siddoway, Mike
Barton, Jamie Leslie, Joe Bongiorno and Dean Willis.
ROLL-CALL ATTENDANCE
Liz Strader _X_ Joe Borton
_X_ Brad Hoaglun _X_Treg Bernt
X Jessica Perreault _X_ Luke Cavener
X_ Mayor Robert E. Simison
Simison: Council, we will go ahead and call this meeting to order. For the record it is
December 13th, 2022, at 4:37 p.m. We will begin this afternoon's work session with roll
call attendance.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
Simison: Next item up is adoption of the agenda.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: I move that we adopt the agenda as published.
Borton: Second.
Simison: Motion and second to adopt the agenda as published. Is there any discussion?
If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay? The ayes have it and the agenda
is adopted.
MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES.
CONSENT AGENDA [Action Item
1. C-Shell Starbucks 2022-0026 Water Main Easement
2. TM Crossing Subdivision No. 4 Water Main Easement No. 1
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3. Final Plat for Gander Creek South No. 3 (FP-2022-0026) by Kent Brown
Planning Services, generally located south of W. McMillan Rd. on the
south side of the Five Mile Creek, west of N. McDermott Rd.
4. Findings of Facts, Conclusions of Law forAlden Ridge Subdivision (H-
2022-0059) by Dave Yorgason, Tall Timber Consulting, located at 6870
N. Pollard Ln., and (3) parcels to the north and east, directly east of
State Highway 16 and south of the Phyllis Canal at the northern edge
of the Meridian City Impact
5. Findings of Facts, Conclusions of Law for Hadler Neighborhood (H-
2022-0064) by Laren Bailey, Conger Group, located at 7200 S. Locust
Grove Rd., approximately 1/2 mile south of the Locust Grove and Lake
Hazel intersection on the east side of Locust Grove Rd.
6. Findings of Facts, Conclusions of Law for Ledges Business Center
(SHP-2022-0015) by Kent Brown Planning, located at 4120 N. Linder
Rd.
7. Findings of Facts, Conclusions of Law for Lost Rapids West (SHP-
2022-0014) by KM Engineering, generally located on the south side of
W. Chinden Blvd., 1/4 mile west of N. Ten Mile Rd.
8. Resolution 22-2361: A Resolution Vacating the remainder of S. Black
Marlin Ln., located within lots 10-18, Block 1 of Interstate Center
Subdivision
9. Resolution 22-2360: A Resolution Approving Adoption of an
Amendment to the Citizen Participation Plan for the Community
Development Block Grant; Authorizing the Mayor and City Clerk to
Execute and Attest the Same on Behalf of the City of Meridian; and
Providing an Effective Date
Simison: Next up is the Consent Agenda.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: I move approval of the Consent Agenda and for the Mayor to sign and Clerk to
attest.
Borton: Second.
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Simison: Have a motion and a second to approve the Consent Agenda. Is there any
discussion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Those opposed nay? The ayes
have it and the Consent Agenda is agreed to.
MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES.
ITEMS MOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA [Action Item]
Simison: There were no items moved from the Consent Agenda.
DEPARTMENT / COMMISSION REPORTS [Action Item]
10. Community Development Block Grant Consolidated Annual
Performance Evaluation Report
Simison: So, we will move on to Department/Commission Reports. Item 10 is the
Community Development Block Grant Consolidation Annual Performance Evaluation
Report from Crystal Campbell.
Campbell: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council. So, this is for our most
recently completed program year '21, which ended -- it started October '21 -- '21 and
ended September. So, our end of year report is called our CAPER, the Consolidated
Annual Performance and Evaluation Report, and the purpose of this presentation is to
give you guys an overview of our annual accomplishments, our evaluation of our progress
towards our five year goals, and also to open the public comment period. The goals that
were identified in this con plan were to improve accessibility, enhance homeownership
opportunities, provide social services, stabilize the rental gap and provide admin and fair
housing activities. This was the final year of our con plan. So, all of the five year goals
that was the final that we did on those. So, our first goal of improving accessibility -- at
the beginning of the con plan we have to project how many we will serve throughout the
five years. So, when they did this con plan they anticipated serving 220 individuals under
this goal and we ended up serving more -- closer to 75,000 and this is benefits that were
related mainly to public facilities and infrastructure improvements. This year we worked
with Public Works to install or modernize 25 streetlights on walking routes to Meridian
schools. We also worked with Parks and Rec on two different activities, one was the
Chateau Park playground where they installed an all abilities playground. There is going
to be some additional features in PY-22 and also the walking path for the northwest area
to provide better access to that LMI area will be completed during PY-22. We also
completed Fairview Avenue connection, which was the multi-use path that had an
accessible ramp and handrail. Under enhancing home ownership opportunities we ended
up at 118 percent of this goal. During PY-21 we were able to work with Neighborworks
Boise and they provided emergency accessibility and weatherization repairs to seven
households. We also identified social services and we ended up at 206 percent of our
five year plan on that one. The Boys and Girls Club provided extended care scholarships
to 39 youth and Jesse Tree was able to provide rental assistance to 28 individuals. We
also provided social services with our CARES Act funds and under this one the Boys and
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Girls Club they started a counseling program for youth, but they had a hard time
identifying eligible participants and so they ended up only serving three and, then,
returning the funds to us, so that we could better utilize those funds. We did provide
funding for ID AEYC for child care scholarships and that does not expire until May and so
far they have been able to provide 37 children with scholarships for childcare. We also
have worked with Neighborworks Boise on mortgage assistance and the -- they start
taking applications in September and so they will have a few more payments to close out
those applications, but they were able to serve 66 people. For our goal of stabilizing the
rental gap, that is actually being reported under public services, so we don't have any
accomplishments to report on under this one. For admin and fair housing we provided
subrecipient management. We administered the additional CARES Act funding. We
ensure deadlines are met for timeliness reporting and applications. We receive and
provide ongoing training. We look for process improvements and we also coordinate with
other local entitlement communities and we facility -- we helped to facilitate the Idaho Fair
Housing Forum. Our total resources during this year was 1.3 million. Of this 37 percent
was our PY-21 funds. We also had about 30 percent of the CARES Act funds. Then we
had a little bit of the 2019 funding left over and we also had about 30 percent of that was
the PY-20 funding. Our total expenditures this year was 753,000 dollars and this is a
breakdown of the different goals and how it was spent. So, as you can see the majority
of our funding goes towards public facility and infrastructure improvements. So, of our
remaining resources about 250,000 of those are our regular CDBG funds. We completed
these six projects, the Fairview Avenue sidewalk connection, Chief Joseph streetlights,
admin fair housing, Boys and Girls Club scholarships and emergency rental assistance.
Some of those remaining resources will go towards our continuing projects and all three
of these are expected to close fairly early in this new program year, but those are the
homeowner repair program, Chateau -- Chateau park playground and Locust Grove and
Pine streetlights and, then, the remaining amount will be reallocated to the two projects
that were identified as alternate projects in our PY-21 action plan, which was the east
MHS MMS streetlights and home buyer assistance. For our remaining CARES Act funds
we completed our admin and youth counseling programs and we are continuing with the
childcare scholarships, the Children's Museum and, then, we are finishing up the
payments for the mortgage assistance and the remaining amounts will be reallocated
toward the Woodrose Apartments acquisition. Also in our CAPER they asked us to report
on our ongoing efforts. So, for housing affordability we spoke to the programs that we
use to purchase housing or remaining housing that is affordable. We also talk a little bit
about we provide services to offset the basic living expenses for public housing. We
discussed our efforts to coordinate with the Ada County Housing Authority for
homelessness and other special needs. We collaborate with the agencies who specialize
in those areas and other actions that we have taken deal with the Can-Ada Collaborative
Fair Housing and just how we addressed that. So, our timeline for this tonight is our
presentation and, then, I will ask you guys to open the public comment period, which will
go until December 29th and, then, I will take all of the comments and accept them all and
respond to any and to submit the -- the CAPER to HUD on December 30th. This is my
information to -- if anybody has any comments, then, they can call me or e-mail me or I'm
here in City Hall, anybody can come talk to me at anytime, and starting tomorrow a draft
of the CAPER will be available on our website and with that I will stand for questions.
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Simison: Thank you, Crystal. Council, any questions or comments for Crystal? Thank
you very much. Appreciate it.
11. Parks and Recreation Department: Lakeview Golf Course Operations,
Capital Projects, and Fee Adjustment Discussion
Simison: Okay. Next item up is Item 11, which is Parks and Recreation Department
Lakeview Golf Course operations capital projects and fee adjustment discussion. Mr.
Barton.
Barton: Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. Happy to be here. So, it's been a while
since we talked to you about the operations over at Lakeview Golf Course and haven't
talked to you in awhile about the capital improvement project that we started early -- late
spring, early summer. So, we are here to do that. We are also here to talk about an
adjustment to several of the fees. So, first off operations. Just the highlights. On August
1 st the city entered into an agreement with Roosters Catering and Eatery to operate the
food and beverage component of the golf course. That was the outcome of an RFP that
was advertised. From what I have heard Roosters is doing a phenomenal job. The hours
are up. The -- you know, the food's been good and we -- we have kept periodic check-
ins and so from that standpoint, hearing nothing but positives from -- from that. Probably
the big one is on October 1 st the city took over full operations of the golf course and that
includes we, you know, took -- took in -- took -- assimilated all the employees. So, the
HR component. We are doing the IT. We are doing the financial reporting. So, the whole
thing is under the city's guidance, leadership. Kemper Sports kind of stayed on for a short
period of time to ease the transition, so we could -- you know, some of the financial stuff
had to be merged together and some of the HR stuff. But Kemper Sports is -- we are --
we are no longer needing their services, so it's a hundred percent being run by the city.
Part of that, Kemper Sports has maintained both a personnel account and an operating
account that the city funded. That initial startup was a hundred thousand dollars into each
one and we have kind of kept that -- they have kept that -- those accounts open and as
of now the -- the year end or the cash balance in the combination of both those accounts,
inclusive of that initial funding, is 570,000. So, over the course of two years we have
made 370,000, which, you know, in light of everything that's gone on, construction wise
and we have had a little bit of weather here and there, I think that's all good news and
very positive on the operations. As far as the capital improvement project goes, the big
one is the irrigation system. We have installed -- the heads and the piping are complete.
The -- we are doing concrete cart paths. Tees and greens. The cart paths are prepped.
The concrete is 50 percent complete right now. It's going a little bit slow in the winter.
They are still out there pouring, although later this week may change things. We have
been in the upper 30s and it's pretty good with ground heaters and blankets and they can
keep working, but slow, but still progressing very well. The -- the quality is excellent. We
did some ground repair where the irrigation system has never covered the dirt, it was just
-- it was just bare ground. So, we went in and hydro seeded all that. So, in the springtime
when the weather warms up that -- that seed is just kind of laying there dormant. When
the weather warmed up it will -- it will pop up and we have irrigation water, so it will be
corner to corner green. And, then, the well -- just a couple of -- the well is going to be
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installed here this winter. A couple of fun facts that the irrigation system is controlled by
the two wires in a jacketed control wire. We put in 21 miles of wire. It's -- a wire has to
go to each individual head and there is about 1 ,900 heads. So, we have got 21 miles of
that. We went under the road ten different times. Some of the piping under the road is
as big as 12 inches, so we bored that. Didn't hit anything. That was awesome. So, the
project is -- where it stands now it's on time. They have until May 1 st to complete it. We
are on time and we are on budget. So, all -- all positive good news there. So, as we have
lived with this and we take feedback from the public and, you know, we periodically check,
we have benchmarked what we are doing against other courses and it's come to our
attention that it's time to adjust a couple of fees. So, the first one that we would like to
adjust and -- and just -- you know, process wise what we want to do is kind of get a nod
of heads and -- before we notice these fees and, then, bring them back for a public hearing
and, then, a resolution to adopt them. So, just a nod of heads to see if we are in the right
-- kind of headed in the right direction. If there is something that you think we should do
differently let us know now. We didn't want to surprise you at a -- at a public hearing. So,
we are looking for feedback. The first one is the trail fee and that's the fee that we charge
if you have your own cart and you bring that to the course -- right now it's 580 dollars.
Our proposal is to reduce that by 50 percent down to 290 dollars. If you buy an annual
pass and you use the course's carts, we are proposing to leave that unchanged, because
there is quite a bit of wear and tear on the course's carts that we have to maintain. So,
there is -- there is cost there. Annual passes. We would like to institute a resident,
nonresident fee, so that -- we are not proposing a reduction in the resident fee, but we
are proposing that we charge nonresidents and added ten percent to each annual pass
and that would be across all pass offerings. So, not just like an unlimited -- family
unlimited, there is about eight to ten different offerings. We are proposing a ten percent
increase if you are a nonresident. Also came to our attention that the winter rate -- we
have always had winter rates and they have been reduced, but it wasn't reduced across
all categories. Just for example the winter rate was 29 dollars and the senior rate was 28
dollars. So, the seniors weren't getting the discount to play in the winter. So, our proposal
is to reduce rates four dollars for 18 holes across all offerings and reduce those fees two
dollars for nine holes across all offerings. So, if you are a senior, you play in the winter,
where it's 28 dollars during -- during the year, you can now get four dollars off of that. So,
it just makes more sense. The other -- the other proposal is a four percent price increase
to green fees. We did a six percent increase last year. Our costs are going up higher
than it was -- the six percent was lost probably almost immediately. So, we are proposing
another four percent. In addition to that, where there is a little bit of foregone revenue in
the -- in the cart, the trail fees that we would like to recapture with that four percent. And,
then, cart fees cost to maintain the carts, obviously, were going up. Our proposal is to
increase the cart fee dollars for 18 holes and a dollar for nine and, then, a ten percent
increase on range fees. So, with that I'm happy to answer any questions you have and
take feedback.
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council, questions, comments? Mr. Borton. Not Barton.
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Borton: Certainly. Thanks, Mike. I kind of want to dovetail on your comments. I have
been talking pretty closely with the golf course community and -- and pretty well
embedded with -- with this particular issue. So, there is a couple of-- two things are true.
One is there is not -- there is more than one way to skin the cat on rates and what you do
with each of these. There is not a single path that you necessarily have to go forward.
But the --the policy consideration that I think-- I'm supportive of what you have presented,
Mike. I think the golf course community would be supportive of this. I think it captures
two things that we can do now. We talked a lot about trying to provide a -- a tier somehow
where our residents, who have through our savings, funded a lot of these improvements,
can receive either some benefit. In this case their -- their pass rates aren't going up.
There is some process reasons why you can't create tiers in the daily rates in the same
way as you can for passes. So, this is a -- this is a feasible first step to use the annual
pass, resident, nonresident that it rewards our resident taxpayers somewhat and the other
part is the annual pass for -- or the trail fee for the annual pass and -- and there is maybe
a hundred of those -- a hundred or so of those. These are folks that buy the pass to use
their own cart all year and the vast majority of them are the seniors who live on or around
the course. They just -- probably 95 percent of them really. And these are the folks that,
one, have been -- the vast majority have been living there for a long time. They, through
the prior ownership, were the ones that were out donating twenty dollars to buy bricks to
get the patio bricks done and, then, they are donating sand and trying to help plant trees
and they kind of did some sweat equity to keep the course going through difficult times
and -- and those folks usually buy an annual pass and a trail fee. So, to them it's kind of
a combined expenditure. It's a relatively minor impact on the bottom line for the -- for the
city, but it does account for kind of our long standing residents who have been on and
around the course loyal through this process. So, you have been in communication with
them a lot, so that's some of the -- the policy reasons behind this. Again there is not one
way to do it, but I thought this one, with your work and what your team had done, made
great sense and addressed those community concerns. So, thanks for letting me add a
little context to how we got here.
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: Well, I'm really happy to hear that the irrigation project is on budget and on
time. The many conversations we have had it's been my biggest concern for our course
and just really really great news. Just two questions regarding the fees. To Councilman
Borton's point -- and I appreciate him giving context. I just wanted to understand if the
reduction in trail fees is because of concerns or comments that the residents have made
or if it is for the benefit of those that have made those contributions -- or just kind of help
me understand how that originated. And, then, the second question I have is are -- are
these all cumulatively being done with a particular financial goal in mind or are these
recommendations made by GreenPlay just to keep up with the amount of use we have
had or kind of help me understand -- this is -- is this intended to help fund our capital
projects in the past or in the future or is this about what it's costing us to run the course
on a daily basis or both?
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Barton: Yeah. Great questions. Thank you.
Simison: Want to answer?
Barton: So, the --
Simison: I want Joe Borton to answer the first part, because he unmuted.
Borton: The -- I can. Certainly.
Simison: I would like him on the trail head -- trail one and, then, you can take the second
one to start off with.
Barton: Sure. Either way.
Simison: Just the -- the historical context on the trail fee is some of the -- the disconnect
in years prior -- this is, you know, maybe more than five years ago was, you know, the
trail fee was established, but it wasn't, you know, established as a means of, then,
segregating those funds and, then, applying those funds, so that the golf cart -- or the --
the paths which were garbage and so over the years and years and years and years and
years you had the folks paying the fees and their carts would just get beat to hell and the
money would just go in the owner's pocket or go to something totally disconnected. So,
there was just no correlation to -- and that frustration grew overtime and so there has
been annual pressure to try and remedy, for lack of a better term, the trail fees being
artificially high for no purpose other than you have got a captive senior community that
you probably could charge a thousand dollars and it's not right, but you could. So, I think
this is trying to remedy that historical equity.
Barton: Council Woman Perreault and Councilman Borton, those -- our trail fees are
currently on the high side comparatively, so -- and -- and it was exactly that, that, you
know, it was a -- a way to -- it was -- it was a way to get some revenue and then -- and,
theoretically, it was, yeah, if you pay a little bit more we will -- we will fix up the cart paths
and I don't think that ever happened in any way. So, now is the time to reduce that fee.
But the four percent increase -- so, there was -- there was a total of 83 trail passes sold
last year for -- the revenue was 58,000 dollars. So, the -- if we cut that in half, the four
percent increase on the greens fees makes up for that lost revenue, so -- and we feel
that, you know, just in -- the market will support that, especially with -- you know, the
construction project is going to wind down. The --the course is going to look phenomenal.
It's going to play good. You are going to have nice cart paths and so with the -- with the
goal of, you know, that tier five kind of break even, make a little bit of money thought,
that's -- that -- that's -- at least our thinking is that if we are going to -- if we are going to
not bring something in that we will try to make it up somewhere else and -- and this is a
good one, because it really didn't make a lot of sense. It was artificially high.
Simison: And -- and if I could add to that a little bit. And we still have more that we are
doing out there. We haven't -- we got to do the employee wage evaluation, which could
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have a cost to the operations and we have some -- are we also talking about any of the
construction projects that we hope to do in the next few months here in this presentation?
Barton: Not -- not -- not at this time, but there are -- we are -- there are a couple others,
like the clubhouse, some -- some renovation, remodeling in the clubhouse, because it
hasn't been touched for -- for years. It -- it's due, so -- and that will be a future
conversation. We hope to come back sometime in January. Because we are -- we -- we
have the -- what it could look like, but we don't have a breakdown of the cost. So, once
we get that we will come back and have a conversation.
Simison: Okay. So, at least from --there is still more work to do, but part of my philosophy
with working with the Parks Department is I'm -- and I'm supportive of these changes --
with just trying not to change our revenue projections that we are currently into until we
-- we still have a little bit more evolution out there at the course to figure things out, to
kind of get that long-term plan and, obviously, with the decisions last week on -- was it
last week? The weeks are kind of getting -- two weeks ago on the -- the fee recovery
model. So, trying to adjust that -- I mean maybe we have more people that now buy a
trail pass at a lower rate. You know, we -- we don't know. But it could -- it could happen.
I mean I -- I do the math, 300 bucks, go out and buy a used cart. That money change, if
you play enough golf you may now consider that. So, could even be a revenue generator.
Barton: And you know it's not going to get destroyed with a bunch of potholes.
Bernt: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Bernt.
Bernt: The only thing that I would say is don't make the buckets of balls too expensive.
That's all I'm saying. You go to some -- and I'm being serious. So, you go -- you go to
some of the -- the golf courses around town and it's -- it costs 30 bucks to go hit a large
bucket of balls and it's just -- it's -- it's getting -- that defeats the purpose of the bucket of
balls. You want people to learn how to play golf. That's how people learn how to play
golf. That's how sometimes people are introduced to play golf. So, the only thing on here
-- I just wouldn't get greedy on the bucket of balls. It's important that people know and
have a desire to come down and practice and play.
Barton: Thanks, Councilman Bernt. I -- so, the ten percent is -- a small bucket is six
dollars -- would go to 6.50. A large bucket is 12, it will go to 13. So, I -- I think we are --
we are -- we are a long way away from 30 bucks for a large bucket.
Simison: Council Woman Perreault, I know you also --
Perreault: Mr. Mayor, thank you. Just one more follow-up question. I -- I think I'm -- what
I'm hearing about the -- the overall changes is that it's meeting two goals, which is to fund
some of the capital projects, but also some increases in some, you know, seasonal costs.
Is it common for golf courses to change pricing in this many categories every year? We
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have done this for the second year in a row. Is there -- is there anticipation that we will
keep making these adjustments for the next few years as we get through and get this all
up to where we want it to be or is it normal for courses to change their pricing every year
in this many categories?
Barton: I would say that -- well, the -- the -- the fees are not covering capital projects,
They are covering the operational needs of the course, and in this environment that we
are in where prices are -- costs are rapidly changing and wages are inflating, I would say
that it's more -- more common or -- or even unusual. I -- I don't think -- I haven't been
doing -- doing golf that long, so I was hoping Ryan could be here. He is -- he knows more
about the intricacies of the business than I do, but I would say that when costs stabilize
we can stabilize any kind of price increases. I mean that -- that would be our goal is to
just get it set, let it ride. If -- if there is an adjustment to something up or down, if we are
doing it wrong, I mean we are -- we are fine tuning the business.
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton. Oh. Council Woman Strader.
Strader: Thanks, Mike. Great job executing on the capital improvement projects. That's
awesome. This all makes sense to me. Don't have any issues with any of the changes.
Sort of an aside, though, Todd in the Finance Department had sent us an e-mail that they
are not going to be sending a monthly reporting of the financial results for the golf course.
I don't think we need those monthly anymore. I think what we need, though, is I still would
like to see at least a semi-annual, if not a quarterly, sort of like a management discussion
and analysis that combines -- here are the operating results of the golf course. Here are
-- you know, here is how the business is doing and, then, you know,just some discussion.
It's not enough to get it -- so, if you could just convey to Todd or I will send him an e-mail
as well, but it's just not enough for me personally to just get it on the dashboard. I like to
have the, you know, sort of MD&A background on that. Yeah. To understand how the
operations are going, if there are problems. So, I mean at least twice a year if that's okay.
Simison: I think we can get -- you know, we will continue to come back probably at least
twice the year until we get this dialed in. I think once we are all dialed in and feel good
about it, then, it is part of the yearly adjustments on -- or if we ever see a concern. But
once we feel comfortable then I think we back up -- but, yeah, we will be back at least
once every six months at a minimum.
Barton: We are happy to come as often or as little as you want. Just let us know. Thank
you.
12. Parks and Recreation Department: Master Plan Update
Simison: Thanks, Mike. Okay. So, next item on the agenda, Item 12, Parks and
Recreation Department Master Plan update. Mr. Siddoway.
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Siddoway: Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Members of the Council. I'm going to introduce Art
Thatcher, who I think you guys have met enough times to know. His last couple of
presentations have been remote through Zoom, but we have him in person tonight. He
is also here tonight with James Nichols. Did I get your last name right, James? All right.
Also from BerryDunn, formerly with -- known as GreenPlay. But we have been working
with them as a company over the past year, as you know, on this master plan update and
we are quickly nearing the completion of this plan. We have worked on some extensive
public involvement processes, interviews, focus groups, stakeholder meetings. We did
the statistically valid public opinion survey. We did an inventory and analysis of conditions
on all parks and facilities throughout the system and more recently we have been focused
on the cost recovery piece, which was kind of a -- a separate kind of addendum. So,
that's been the more recent focus and we presented that to you a couple of weeks ago.
The goals and objectives for the plan have been recently updated and we are presenting
the draft plan overall to the Parks and Rec Commission tomorrow night, but with Art in
town we wanted to take advantage of the opportunity to get in front of you, give you kind
of a high level highlights version of that -- the -- the final plan, including some of the
updated goals and objectives. We will be taking that, like I said, to the commission
tomorrow night, anticipating a -- a formal recommendation to Council following that and
us coming back probably in January to seek your approval of the plan. But we wanted to
give you the chance to -- to see it while it's in kind of a final draft stage and with that I'm
going to turn the time over to Art Thatcher.
Thatcher: Thank you, Steve. Mayor, Members of Council. Very nice to see you again.
And as Steve said, I'm here to kind of give you an update of how we got here and, then,
what the goals and objectives are for -- for the plan. I will run through a lot of these,
because Steve kind of hit on the highlights of -- of what we have talked about. So, we
are kind of here in this bottom -- we are in the draft final presentation stage. These are
all the kind of stages we have -- we have gone through. As Steve mentioned, our kickoff,
the survey, our public engagement, the inventory and, then, our organizational
assessment through the process and so it's been a little over--over a year kind of working
through this process. As Steve said, we were here in November and did public
engagement. We had six focus groups with 39 participants. We did interviews with the
elected officials and stakeholders. We did a staff SWOT analysis and workshop with
them. Did a briefing and got feedback from the Parks and Rec Commission. Did tours
of the parks and facilities and, then, held an open forum that was both in person and
virtual and we had 18 people attend that and so one of the things that we -- we asked
about strengths, weaknesses, new -- new facilities, new -- new amenities and so, then,
we --we kind of wrapped that up with top priorities and you can see from the focus groups
and the stakeholder meetings that connectivity, a new indoor facility, and rectangle fields
to -- to support the needs and, then, land acquisition and -- sorry. And managing growth
were kind of those top five priorities that came out of the -- out of the focus groups. We
used the information from the focus groups to develop the -- the survey. We did a
statistically valid mailed needs assessment survey and -- and, then, once we started
receiving responses back from the survey we did an open link survey, so anybody could
take the survey and so we had 690 total surveys completed, 312 from the invitation
sample and another 378 from the -- from the open link and as we looked at that one of
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the -- one of the things -- we were here in 2015 and did the master plan in 2015. So, not
only were we able to look at the results of this survey, but we were also able to kind of
compare those to the 2015 survey and get kind of the -- you know, how the community
had changed a little bit. So, one of the questions we asked about were future needs for
indoor facilities and you can see that --that community center--the community recreation
center in 2015 was the -- the number two top facility and in 2021 moved to the top facility
and, then, it took the place of an indoor aquatic facility, which -- this survey came out prior
to you all taking over the -- the -- the aquatic facility here in town and, then, followed by
that field house and indoor gymnasium space, as well as a performing arts center and an
ice rink as kind of those top five. So, we also asked about future needs for outdoor
facilities and, again, you can see the -- the comparison to -- to 2015 and parks and --
parks and trails being the number one, both in 2021 and in 2015, and, then, improvements
to -- to your park amenities being that -- that number two and, then, shade structures and
parks. In 2015 shade structures were -- were really number two. However, over -- over
the period you have added shade structures within many of your parks and so it's still a
priority, but kind of dropped down to that number three, followed by playgrounds and,
then, lights to your outdoor athletic facilities and rounding out that top five. So, one of the
things that we ask is, you know, given a hundred and in five dollar increments how would
you spend that hundred dollars. You can see that compared '21 to 2015, that additional
pathways was number one in -- in -- in this survey, but in the 2015 expanding your
aquatics indoor and outdoor was number one. Again, I think that reduction stems from
you -- you acquiring the -- the outdoor swimming pool. That number two in both was
making improvements to existing and renovating your existing facilities and -- and parks.
So, as -- as Steve mentioned, we also did your inventory and level of service analysis.
So, from 2015 to today we --we updated your-- your inventory, looked at all of your parks
and looked -- and looked at all the components within those parks and did an inventory
of those. We also looked at other service providers and, then, we also looked at the
inventory and schools. So, really getting a -- a really great picture of all of those -- those
recreation amenities that are available to the community. We also looked at HOA and
private facilities within the system -- within the city. So, again, as we -- we were able to
look at 2015, so your population grew from 94,000 to 124,000. Your -- the -- the city
limits, you know, grew from 18,000 acres to 23,000 acres and your number of parks went
from 21 to 25 over that period. So, we do an atlas. So, we provide GIS of your parks
and, then, we look at all the amenities in there and we do a quantitative analysis of -- and
a qualitative analysis of those and provide that in a booklet to the department and
electronically, so that they can keep up with the -- with the inventory. Some of the kind of
-- some of the things that came out of our inventory site visits were your parks are very
consistent across the board. They are very well maintained to a very high standard.
Restrooms are -- in our opinion some of the cleanest that we have seen in a system
around the country. We have noted that most of your parks have public art and, then,
that you have -- you have added additional bike repair stations to many of your parks.
Your turf is in really good condition and that there seemed to be a very high priority to --
to planting trees in many of your parks. So, your urban forestry is a -- is a high priority,
which was one of the things that came out of the 2015 master plan. So, this is just a --
we GIS all of your parks and all of the amenities within that. We also added in the schools
and the -- and the HOA parks within the system. We -- one of the things that we look at
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is walkability. So, that ten minute walk to -- to a recreation facility. The -- the -- the yellow
is -- is -- meets a five component park and, then, the yellow is that it's still -- you still have
walkable access, but it's below that five components within the park. So, the -- the great
thing and -- and what should be really celebrated is that really a hundred percent of your
community has walkable access to some recreation component from their homes. So,
we -- we, again, kind of look at that neighborhood access and begin to kind of look at the
Meridian parks alone and, then, adding in the schools and the HOAs and, again, you kind
of see that -- still that hundred percent, but, really, 91 percent are within a -- that ten
minute walk to an outdoor recreation component within their -- within their neighborhood.
So, we take all the data and -- and everything that we have collected and we develop
recurring themes and so those recurring themes are continuing to create a connected
community through your pathways development, maintaining the quality of maintenance
level, level of service and funding for your parks and facilities, finding future locations for
parks to stay ahead of your future development, which you are doing through your-- your
-- work with your developers. Keeping up with future changing demographics, as they --
as growth occurs. Looking at a -- a new community center, recreation center within the
community. That was one of the greatest needs identified for an -- for an indoor facility.
And, then, your pathways and trails was identified as the -- the greatest need and desire
for outdoor facilities. Again, shade structures and communication were the top two areas
that if addressed would increase participation in parks. Communication piece being
knowing where the parks are and knowing what -- what activities and facilities are going
on there. And, then, we asked about how people would like to receive their information
on parks and programs and services and e-mail and social media were those two top two.
So, kind of looking at that -- that communication piece. So, we take those and we begin
to -- working with staff develop goals and objectives and so we have four goals, like we
did in 2015, and so continuing to improve your organizational efficiency is the first goal
and we have six objectives and, then, there are a number of actions steps that fall under
each one of these objectives that you will see when you get the draft of the master plan.
So, maintaining your existing level of service goal of four acres per -- per thousand
residents. Enhancing and improving internal and external communication. Maintaining
existing quality standards for your facilities and amenities. Utilizing technology to improve
customer service and efficiencies. Increasing potential partnerships to -- within the
community. And, then, staffing appropriately to meet demand and maintain existing
quality of service, both on the recreation side, as well as on the park side. So, the second
goal was maintaining and improving your facilities and amenities and we have -- like with
13 objectives within this one and it's -- it's really kind of the -- it is the largest of all of those.
So, maintaining and improving your existing facilities, expanding your pathways and your
connectivity, adding indoor recreation space, developing new amenities -- that new and
existing parks. Acquiring new land for -- for parks. And, then, evaluating your parking at
parks events and scheduled activities. So, the -- the second half, continuing to monitor
your-- your ADA needs within the community. Since the last plan you developed an ADA
transition plan and, really, you have taken care of all of those -- those issues in that
transition. So, now it's just monitoring, keeping up with that. Upgrading your comfort
convenience and customer service amenities. Shade would fall under -- under this
objective. The number nine, kind of creating park identities in your existing and new
parks. So, continuing to kind of look at, you know, how you are -- you are -- you are
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infusing unique components within your parks to create identities. Addressing current
and future needs for athletic fields. Consider programming needs when adding new
components to existing parks and -- and developing new parks. Maintaining component
--the component based inventory and level of service analysis. That's the --the inventory
that I showed you earlier and, then, you continue to -- to maintain your life cycle
replacement plan. So, make -- make sure you are continuing to -- to keep that up. And,
then, the --the third goal is really -- is around continuing to improve programs and service
delivery and that's really to continue to address recreation programming, activity needs
in the community. The department does a really good job of reaching out to the
community, getting satisfaction surveys back and -- and working on those. So, there are
several actions that are underneath that. And the final is the -- to help increase your --
your financial opportunities. And so looking at those opportunities to increase your special
events and activity sponsorships, evaluating your impact fee ordinance, pursuing grants
and philanthropic opportunities and, then, implementing the cost recovery and pricing
policy that -- that we did for you as part of this. And so those are the -- the goals and
objectives and kind of how we got there and I'm happy to answer any questions that you
might have.
Simison: Thank you, Art. Council, questions?
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: Art, thank you very much for the update and hope you are enjoying our
wonderful weather.
Thatcher: Absolutely.
Perreault: Yeah. So, what are -- are there any specific updates -- let me rephrase that.
Are there any specific goals and objectives and/or action tasks that are new to the plan
that didn't exist before or any -- any that significantly changed?
Thatcher: No. I think the -- you are -- the -- the first plan was -- was pretty broad. I think
there are some actions that are -- that have changed some or maybe new actions, but
the goals and objectives are -- are pretty common and -- and pretty -- broad enough that
they encompass a lot of those actions. Some have taken greater priority, like maintaining
what you currently have, because your system has grown. So, making sure that you are
continuing to maintain those have taken a greater priority than -- than they did at first.
When we were here in 2015 a lot of the system was new and so, you know, there -- there
wasn't a lot of need to -- to kind of upgrade those facilities. So, now making sure you are
keeping up with -- with new trends, adding new components to parks and those things to
keep them interesting and -- and attracting users.
Perreault: Mr. Mayor, one more question.
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Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: What are the top two or three things that you think we should take from this
update and do differently or implement sooner or that we should shift our priorities on
from the original plan?
Thatcher: Well, the -- the number one is maintaining what you currently have, because
you do have --your--your system is now starting to kind of get in that--that aging process
and so make sure that we are -- you are keeping things current, keeping them well
maintained. That's what keeps people going. That's what also continues to attract new
residents into the community is those new parks. Continuing to increase your-- your park
acreage and your--and -- and your amenities within those parks as the community grows.
It doesn't necessarily mean that you need to -- you need to buy new land, but as you work
with your developers having them, you know, provide recreation components within their
HOAs, within their developments, so that -- so those residents are -- are getting that same
use. I think those are kind of two of the top. And, then, continuing to -- to connect the
community through -- through your pathways.
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: Art, it's great having you in person. Appreciate you being here.
Thatcher: Thank you.
Cavener: I love your guys' surveys, because they are statistically valid and it gives me
real confidence about where we should be allocating our resources and so this -- this
question is not a -- an arrow at the data, because I -- I really validate it and I appreciate
it. But as a Council Member the things that are listed as priorities are not things that I
hear from our citizens that they need or want. The things that I'm hearing about is
farmland preservation, nature preservation and so help me understand -- do you -- do
you see similar trends in other parts of the country where maybe it's a -- it's a vocal
minority that want this thing, but it never bubbles up on a survey. Is that something that
your -- how does your survey kind of contemplate those unique things that maybe a city
hasn't offerred, that citizens haven't thought about. Are those questions included in -- in
your survey and -- and what I'm trying to do is to parse what I hear, you know, versus
what we see in the survey and I will give you a great example. When I very first got
elected I met a guy in a park who wanted to talk to me about this weird sport coming out
called pickleball. Right? And so -- that was 12 years ago. And now -- and now we have
got -- we are -- we are investing in pickleball all over the place. He -- he was on the
cutting edge of what he felt that our community needed and I don't -- I don't want to
discount where these citizens are coming from, but it also -- those types of things don't
necessarily show up on a survey until people are maybe frustrated that it doesn't exist.
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Thatcher: And -- and I think we do infuse into the survey some national trends that see
-- we see around the country. You know, I mean disk golf courses are, you know, being
constructed, you know, all over the country. It's one of the top things that communities
are investing in, as well as pickleball courts and some of those things. So, we do infuse
some of that into -- into the surveys. Also we don't just use the -- the survey responses
when we start making our recommendations. We look at national trends. We --you know,
we consider what we heard from the --from the focus groups. What the focus group does
is in -- in a lot of cases we will have very enthusiastic users that will show up, you know,
to -- to focus groups to -- to give their opinion and so, you know, we get a lot of, you know,
skate park users that come to the focus groups. Pickle ballers that come to the focus
groups. The first project I did in Wake Forest, North Carolina, the first focus group I did
there were 50 people and sitting in the -- in the front rows and they all had on lime green
Wake Forest pickleball T-shirts and so, you know, they were -- you know. And that was,
you know, ten years ago and -- and so, as you say, they were kind of on the cutting edge,
but they became proponents to the whole master plan and I think we see that here as
well, is that, you know, we -- we hear those enthusiastic citizens that -- that want things
and so we did hear preserving open space as one of those priorities. We did not ask
specifically about agricultural land. In like the -- the state of Maryland they -- as part of
their master plans for state funding they -- they require an ag section within their land
preservation plans, their parks and recreation land preservation plans and so, you know,
that's one of the states that we work in that we do -- specifically do ask about ag land.
Cavener: Thank you.
Thatcher: You are welcome.
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: Thanks, Art. I appreciate it. I -- I do think if -- if the final plan or the final report
could have kind of an overview of emerging trends I think that would be really helpful. I
-- I agree with Councilman Cavener, I think it's good for us to also have a view kind of
leading into the future of what's emerging. Like I hear a lot about parents and even
insurance companies wanting to see kids have riskier playgrounds. That's something
going on in Europe that I have heard about. Not dangerous playgrounds, but playgrounds
were kids can kind of learn what their limits are and -- and developmentally it's important
for them. Just things like that. If -- if there are new trends that we should be aware of
would like to hear about those.
Thatcher: And -- and so as you read through the -- the final plan you will see that as we
-- as we do recommendations there is also a plan and there is also parts in there about
emerging trends within the industry. That -- that's a part of that. So, you will see those
throughout.
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Simison: Council, additional questions or comments at this time? All right. Well, thank
you very much, Art.
Thatcher: Thank you all very much. It's good to see you again.
Siddoway: I will just wrap it up by saying we appreciate the feedback tonight very much.
We will go to the -- the commission and hope to be back before you next month to
conclude this process and request your adoption of the final plan. So, thank you very
much.
Simison: Thank you, Steve. Council, we have reached the end of our agenda.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: I move we adjourn our work session.
Simison: Have a motion to adjourn. All in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay?
The ayes have it. We are adjourned.
MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 5:31 P.M.
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MAYOR ROBERT E. SIMISON 1-3-2023
ATTEST:
CHRIS JOHNSON - CITY CLERK 1-3-2023