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Rohm: It's been moved and seconded we forward onto City Council recommending
approval of AZ 06-008, to include the staff report and noted amendments for changes to
that staff report. All those in favor say aye. Opposed same sign?
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Rohm: Again, folks, thank you very much and I appreciate your diligence and you did a
great job making your presentation. Thank you.
Newton-Huckabay: Mr. Thomason, you have had enough training now that you will be
able to enjoy your new career. You have enough training in this now that you can
endeavor into your new career.
Item 8:
Public Hearing: RZ 06-003 Request for a Rezone of 3.13 acres from R4
(Low-Density Residential) to L-O (Limited Office) for Hastings by
Monterey, LLC - 2300 West Everest Lane:
Rohm: Public speaking. At this time I'd like to open the Public Hearing on RZ 06-003
for Hastings and begin with the staff report.
Hood: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission. This is a request for a
rezone of 3.3 acres from R-4 to L-O. The subject property is located on the south side
of McMillan Road. It is two lots within -- I'm sorry, south side of Chinden Boulevard.
These two lots within Lochsa Falls Subdivision. These two lots were previously
approved as part of the planned development with the use exception for office uses on
here. They are zoned R-4. This is pretty much a clean up rezone to zone the property
to reflect the future land uses on these lots. In fact, just this last week, I believe, our
department has issued two certificates of zoning compliance for two office buildings,
one on each lot there. We are also processing a couple of short plat applications, so
they can divide the property up into eight total tax parcels, eight total lots, and construct
eight separate office buildings is the intent here. But, again, the application before you
is just to rezone that to office to match the -- the future land uses. I do want to point out
a couple of things. One, there is in the staff report -- I hope it's not confusing, I'm just
trying to save myself a little bit of work here when it goes to City Council. I have
included the vacation application analysis. You do not need to make an action on that.
If you have a feeling one way or the other, you can sure express that to me. It seems
pretty -- pretty straight forward as well. I was just trying to incorporate it all, so I can just
take this and send it on to City Council as well. There is one thing that I didn't get a
chance today -- we had a 3:00 o'clock staff meeting. I did have a chance to talk with
Anna a little bit and I apologize to the applicant, I don't exactly know -- there is a
recommendation in Exhibit B, it's the third one there, it's more of a heads-up kind of,
than anything, for the applicant at this point in time. I guess I should back up a second.
The City Council just last week heard Knighthill Center Subdivision, which was before
this Commission six weeks ago or so. There was some concern about the lack of
sidewalk along Everest Lane. The Mayor and Council had some concerns about if we
get a grocery store in here and things, that people in Lochsa will be wanting to walk to
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those. So, just based on that concern Anna asked me to look into a sidewalk
requirement. Put in the staff report that it's recommended that they construct a sidewalk
there on the north side. It's not a condition as its written now. I think before this gets to
the City Council we are going to look at amending the existing development agreement.
What appears to have happened -- staff brought it up back in 1999 and year 2001 when
Lochsa Falls was originally going through. Somehow it doesn't appear as part of the
motion that they had that the Council let them off the hook in not having to provide a
sidewalk, it just -- it never made it in the Findings. So, I'll do some more research on
that before we get to City Council, but it looks like that condition was inadvertently left
off the original approval. I haven't had a chance to talk with them about constructing a
sidewalk, if that's going to put a huge hiccup in the project or not, but I think that's,
really, the only thing that needs to be discussed with this application. It's pretty clean.
And basically at the request of city staff and also in order to get their short plats
approved. So, with that I will stand for any questions you may have.
Rohm: Thank you, Caleb. Any questions of staff?
Moe: I just want to make sure I'm in the right spot.
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman, I would mention that the discussion you're having about the
sidewalk is, actually, in Exhibit A, not -- you mentioned Exhibit B, but it's in Exhibit A.
Hood: I'm sorry. Exhibit A has the recommendations for approval or comments I guess
they are at this point. I apologize.
Moe: 1.13; correct?
Hood: Correct.
Moe: Okay. Thank you.
Rohm: Okay. At this time would the applicant like to come forward, please?
Hosac: Mr. Chairman, Members of the Committee, my name is Nate Hosac, one of the
owners of Hasting Subdivision and we really have -- really have no comments --
Rohm: Could we get an address, too, please?
Hosac: Sorry. The address is 10221 West Emerald.
Rohm: Thank you.
Hosac: In Boise. And we are in agreement with the findings of staff. I just want to
make a quick note on the sidewalk that we are talking about. I don't think we'd have
any trouble with the sidewalk at all. It's going to be a pretty heavily developed area
when it's done out there and the residents of Lochsa Falls will probably want to use the
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sidewalk. The only gray area is that Everest, as constructed by the Loshsa Falls
developer, is pretty narrow. It's very narrow. And, eventually, Everest is going to be
kind of a conduit road that goes from the entrance of Lochsa Falls Subdivision over to
Linder. Now, when that happens -- and I haven't spoken with ACHD, but I will bet that
they will want it widened. And, if so, we would be in the position of, then, tearing out a
sidewalk if we go ahead and put it in now. So, I'm not certain if we want to go ahead
and put the sidewalk in now or if we want to find out what in the future ACHD is going to
have us do, because I think the development on the corner of Chinden and Linder and
to the east of our project, are probably a couple two or three years behind us. And
that's, really, the only comment. I think a sidewalk is no problem as far as cost or what
it does to our project. It doesn't matter, but only that we don't want to put it in, have
ACHD come back later, say widen this road and we'd have to tear it back out and build
another one.
Hood: Mr. Chair, if I may. Members of the Commission. I just -- maybe a little bit of
background information. We have talked about all of this before in relation to that
Knighthill Center Subdivision. The City Council did require that developer-owner to
construct sidewalk -- sorry, I don't want to put this pointer in your eye here. They did
require the stub street that comes up here, they did require a sidewalk there, a 25 foot
land use buffer adjacent to all the residential. They did require a sidewalk from their
extension that comes out at the drive aisle and ties back into Everest Lane. They did
require a sidewalk up into their property that they abut. So, the sidewalk would be, you
know, right stubbed to that Everest Lane. Now, Everest Lane is a 30 foot wide lot in
Lochsa Falls Subdivision No. 12 and there is a 20 foot wide landscape buffer on the
south side of that, so there is, really, 50 feet there. However, I don't think ACHD is
going to jump in the middle of this or really have anything to say. It's a private lane, an
approved private street, so they aren't going to have any requirements and that's really
why we need to get a sidewalk, because it's going to need to function as a private drive
aisle, essentially, for a service drive for public and private, but ACHD is not going to
help us out here and get sidewalk in the future. If that were the case, then, we would
just let them do that, but since we approved it as a private street, the sidewalk on the
north side seems to be the best location and I guess just to further that thought, we
haven't exactly determined the exact location. Probably what makes the most sense is
to have just the southern most five feet of your property and do that sidewalk easement.
So, that would be taking the 30 feet and making it a 20 foot wide drive aisle and
sidewalk, trying to cram it all in there, pave as much of that 30 feet as possible and,
then, put a five foot -- give us an easement -- or a pedestrian easement for a sidewalk
and we will get that all the way across is kind of a --
Hosac: On the north of the street?
Hood: On the north side.
Hosac: Okay.
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Hood: So, that it's fully on your property and you don't have to go to the homeowners
association and say, hey, I want to build a sidewalk in this common lot to do it and, then,
it would still get a pedestrian connection as those seven lots come in. So, that's -- that's
kind of the idea beyond that requirement, so --
Hosac: Yeah. I can't think of any issues that we'd have with that. You know, if we are
confident that the ACHD -- it is private land, so if we are confident that ACHD won't
come back and want to do anything with that -- with that lane, then, we have no issues
with that.
Rohm: It sounds like just something -- change the text of the development agreement
to include the addition of the five foot sidewalk, something like that, Caleb?
Hood: Yeah. Mr. Chair, Members of the Commission. In the motion if you can accept
the staff's recommendation, the applicant's willingness to construct a sidewalk on the
southern part of their property adjacent to Everest Lane, that would be good enough
and we will work on changing the language a little bit to give some more analysis for the
City Council, you know, in a separate section or whatever we are talking about that, but
we will just update this hearing with that provision.
Rohm: Okay. Good. Thank you, Caleb. Thank you. And we do not have anybody
signed up for this application to speak in addition to the applicant, but at this time if
someone would like to come forward now is the time. Seeing none --
Moe: Mr. Chairman?
Rohm: Commissioner Moe.
Moe: I move we close the Public Hearing on RZ 06-003.
Zaremba: Second.
Rohm: It's been moved and seconded to close the Public Hearing on RZ 06-003. All
those in favor say aye. Opposed same sign? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Moe: Mr. Chairman?
Rohm: Commissioner Moe.
Moe: I move to recommend approval to the City Council of file number RZ 06-003 as
presented in the staff report for the hearing date of May 18th, 2006, with the following
change: In Exhibit A, under the planning department, Section 1.3, I would just like to
extend the information there where staff recommends that the sidewalk be constructed
on the north side of Everest Lane and none exists, unless you guys want to put would
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be the southern five foot of the applicant's property on the north side of Everest Lane.
End of motion.
Zaremba: Second.
Rohm: It's been moved and seconded that we forward on to City Council
recommending approval of RZ 06-003, to include all staff comments with the
aforementioned changes. All those in favor say aye. Opposed same sign? Motion
carries. Thank you.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Rohm: Well, if we are not going to get to 9:00 o'clock, maybe we should take a 15
minute break now.
Zaremba: We are going to miss our break.
Rohm: We are going to miss our break.
Newton-Huckabay: Give me a break.
Item 10:
Public Hearing: PP 06-021 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 7
building lots and 2 common lots on 5.49 acres in proposed R-15 and L-O
zones for Rushmore Subdivision by SLC Investments, LLC - 1021
West Pine Avenue:
Item 11:
Public Hearing: CUP 06-014 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for
24 multi-family dwelling units in a proposed R-15 zone for Rushmore
Subdivision by SLC Investments, LLC - 1021 West Pine Avenue:
Rohm: Okay. And I'm just kidding. We are not going to take a break. Okay. With that
being said, at this time I'd like to open the Public Hearing on RZ 06-004, PP 06-021, and
CUP 06-014. All three items relating to Rushmore Subdivision and begin with the staff
report.
Hood: Thank you, Mr. Chair, Members of the Commission. The Rushmore Subdivision
is a rezone of 5.49 acres, approximately half -- the northern half of that property
currently contains the Meridian Friends Church. They are proposing to zone that to L-
0, office designation, where churches are principally permitted. The southern half is
proposed for -- and, I'm sorry, this is skewed a little bit, so the cul-de-sac -- actually,
that's -- yeah. I can't really see it. Okay. That's right. There is the lateral, the Nine Mile
is at the northern boundary there, which splits the R-15 and the L-O zone. So, there is
an existing stub street to the property that the applicant is proposing to add a cul-de-sac
and add seven -- or, excuse me, six four-plex buildings on and construct a drive aisle
and parking around. So, the cul-de-sac is here. Their drive aisle and parking -- this is a
real busy site plan. I'm sorry, I didn't look to see how busy it is. But there is parking
adjacent to each one of these six four-plex units. They do have a manager's office on