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Borton: Is the intent of the motion that the ability to have a fence is at the discretion of
the property owner or -- versus ACHD? If -- as an example, if the church elects not to
have a fence, then, there is not a fence?
Rountree: That was my intent.
Borton: Okay.
De Weerd: Clarification. Any further discussion? Mr. Berg, will you call roll.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Wardle, yea; Borton, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 13:
Item 14:
Item 15:
Public Hearing: AZ 06-003 Annexation and Zoning of 24.03 acres from
RUT to R-8 (12.31 acres), R-15 (8.04 acres) and C-C (3.68 acres) for
Hightower Subdivision by Hightower, LLC - southwest corner of
Chinden Boulevard and Jericho Road:
Public Hearing: PP 06-003 Preliminary Plat approval of 106 residential
lots, 4 commercial lots, 2 private street lots and 25 common lots on 22.94
acres in proposed R-8, R-15 and C-C zones for Hightower Subdivision
by Hightower, LLC - southwest corner of Chinden Boulevard and Jericho
Road:
Public Hearing: CUP 06-004 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for a
Mixed Use Planned Development that includes single-family detached,
townhouse units, commercial uses, private streets, a neighborhood park
and a vehicular access to Chinden Boulevard for Hightower Subdivision
by Hightower, LLC - southwest corner of Chinden Boulevard and Jericho
Road:
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you. Item 13, 14, 15, 16, I will open these public hearings on
AZ 06-003, PP 06-003 and CUP 06-004. VAR 06-004. Anna.
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, this is the Hightower project It's
located at the south --
De Weerd: Okay. Anna, just for our public record, I will not open Item 16 until after Items
13, 14 and 15 have been decided.
Canning: Okay.
De Weerd: Thank you.
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Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, this is the Hightower project It's
located at the southwest corner of Chinden and Jericho. The applications, as noted,
include annexation and zoning, preliminary plat, conditional use, private streets. Those
are the ones we will talk about right now. Did want to point out that this area is shown as
a neighborhood center on the Comprehensive Plan. The highlights of the development
include -- this is just the northern portion of it. This is the southern portion it. It is a kind
of L-shaped or odd shaped lot It includes 24 acres of the R-8 zoning. I'm sorry. Yes.
Fifteen acres of -- or 12 acres of R-15 zoning. Eight acres of C-C -- I have got these
mixed up. Okay. I'm going to start over again. Sorry. The whole site is 24 acres. That's
what I did wrong. Sorry about that It includes 12.31 acres of R-8 and that's primarily the
southern portion of the property. It includes eight acres of R-15 and that's over here on
the east end of the property. And, then, 3.6 acres of C-C. And that would be
immediately adjacent to Chinden on the entrance road. It also includes two private
streets. Those private streets are in the R-8 section. They are part of the MEW
development, so we have our open space here where the lots actually front onto that
developed open space and take access from a private street. The gross residential
density for the entire project is 5.5. If you go to the townhouse areas, which are these
two areas here, the density is -- the net density, which is closer to 9.3 units per acre --
and this would be considered a transit supportive density consistent with the
neighborhood center that's on this property. Normally, we'd be looking at this for a larger
area. I think the applicant has tried to work this neighborhood center into this portion
here where you have the commercial uses, the retail uses, the high density residential
and, then, transitioning to a lower density residential. And I have -- this is how those
townhomes work. This is the southern one. Just so you can see how those houses --
townhouses lay on those lots that they have designated. For the commercial area they
are proposing approximately 13,750 square feet within three buildings as shown here. I
do have some elevations. These are of the commercial vision for the property and, then,
this is detached residential, I believe. We do not have any of the front-loaded
townhouses. We did let the applicant know that he should bring some of those for you
today. The Commission recommended approval on April 6, 2006, and at that hearing
Phil Hull from the Land Group spoke in favor. Tom Buck, I believe, spoke in opposition.
No one commented. And the key issues of discussion were on limiting the building
height for the entire development and this was by the adjacent property owner Mr. Buck.
And concessions made by the applicant to the adjacent property owner and the
configuration of the townhouse lots at the south terminus for Torrey Way and that was
this diagram that I showed you. The key Commission changes to staffs initial
recommendation. They did add a restriction to the development agreement, which
states the applicant shall place five gallon arborvitae at four feet on center along the
shared property line of the adjacent property to the west, owned by Mr. Buck, and they
also added a restriction to the development agreement, which states the homes on Lots
2, 3, and 4 and 5 of Block 10 shall be limited to 25 feet in height They also added a
condition which states the applicant shall continue to work with the Idaho Transportation
Department on the possibility of acceleration and deceleration lanes on Chinden Road,
as referenced in the letter from lTD. And a condition which states the applicant shall add
a note to the face of the plat that references the Right To Farm Act. Finally, a condition
that the applicant shall work with the planning department staff on the layout and access
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of Lots 5 through 14, Block 6, in order comply with the Unified Development Code
regarding common drives. And that these would be submitted to the planning
department no later than ten days prior to the City Council hearing. The lots in question
are these same ones here. We are still working on it, but we are confident that -- that
Council could condition the project appropriately. Mr. Wilson in his staff report did talk
about the common drives and he referenced the portion which states that only four lots
can take access from it, so they would need to have a green space between these
center lots on both sides. They have one over here currently. They would have to add
one on this other side of these -- this couplet here in the middle. Unfortunately, Mr.
Wilson forgot to also mention that they needed ten feet of frontage. Currently they have
about five. I talked with the applicant about it. I think they are pretty comfortable
extending these to the required ten feet of frontage for each of those. They would,
essentially, lose these two units in the center, but it will provide a nice open space for
those residents and it will mirror a little more closely what's going on on the north end.
You can see here they have a similar situation. These flags are too narrow. They are
only five foot flags. They will need to widen those out. But they have got a nice open
space at the terminus of those, so it will mirror that on the south side. The outstanding
issues for City Council. These drives were the outstanding issue and I have noted them
below. The other outstanding issue relates to the ITD letter, so I guess I'll save that for
the variance discussion.
De Weerd: Okay. Council, any questions?
Bird: I have none.
De Weerd: Is the applicant here? If you will, please, state your name and address for
the record.
Hull: Madam Mayor, Members of the City Council, my name is Phil Hull with the Land
Group. I'm representing Hightower, LLC, for the development of approximately 24 acres
located at the southwest corner of Jericho and Chinden.
De Weerd: And what is your address?
Hull: 462 East Shore Drive, Eagle, Idaho. 83616.
De Weerd: Thank you
Hull: And is that the -- okay. Thanks. Let's see. As staff mentioned, our site is located
within a neighborhood commercial designation on the land use plan within the Comp
Plan. And we are proposing a mixed use project with commercial and high density
residential, feathering out to medium density residential. I'm here tonight requesting
annexation, rezone, conditional use, preliminary plat, and a variance. And the next slide
basically shows some of the surrounding uses and layout. We have got Chinden here.
Castlebury across from us. Here is our site right here. It's kind of tough to see. Got
Signature Point Nursery here. Church. Zamzows. Zamzows here. The Catholic church
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here. And we have Saguaro Canyon to our south and, then, Arcadia Sub here, which is
an R-8. And this is R-4 here. And, then, the Westborough, to get you oriented, is here
with the commercial lots here and the four-plexes back there. And this slide shows our
rezone areas. We have got the C-C here. R-15 wrapping around that And, then, the R-
8 in the back of the -- that transitions back into Saguaro Canyon. This shows our site
master plan a little bit more colorful than the pre-plat. You can see a lot of the green
space and whatnot, but we have got the 35 foot required buffers along Chinden and I
believe we are showing 25 along Jericho. With pathway. And we have a large berm and
a sound barrier wall adjacent to the residential portion along Chinden as well to kind of
help separate that. And we have a boulevard entry shown here near the commercial
area. A commercial entrance here and one here off of Hightower Drive. And, as staff
mentioned, we have three commercial buildings here and we went through quite a
design process to get to this point, design process with staff. We had started out with
more of a -- they called it a strip mall effect, but with the building located here and all the
parking up in front. We have kind of really broke that up and soften that parking lot
effect, so that we have two smaller lots now, with most of the parking -- more than 50
percent of the parking off of Chinden located -- located here. We have got the
town home lots here and coming back into the site, feathering back into a little bit lower
density. And a couple of different product types back in here, just the traditional style
homes around the perimeter, 50 to 60 feet wide and in the center the alley-loaded
homes with front porches on the street and, then, on the backside the MEW style
housing there with the -- the park site located there. That shows that park site a little bit
more clearly. We have got a tot lot, gazebo, nearly an acre, we are at .98, will provide
plenty of common open space play area, as well as those amenities. And the townhome
slide that you were viewing earlier. In complying with staffs comments and the
comments from the Planning and Zoning Commission, we have come to the conclusion
that these two units will come out and we will have a small pocket park site here. We
think that will make, actually, much nicer units. These people will be looking out onto
this park site, instead of onto the sides of buildings. Okay. Next. This is an enlargement
of the commercial area also, so you can see how it lays out a little bit better. We have a
lot of plaza spaces at the entries, a lot of space here, up here, to provide, basically, a
little bit more of a pedestrian friendly for people coming in here. There is -- hopefully, we
will see some outdoor tables for dining and whatnot at -- if we do get a restaurant
located in there. And this is the conditional use site plan. Just shows a little bit more
detail on the adjacent uses and a lot of dimensioning and whatnot that you can't really
see on this slide. And the pre-plat, what you saw as well. Just more detail. And here is
the landscape plan. One of the main things I wanted to point out here was the addition
of eight foot planter strips throughout the entire development along the roadways with
street trees planted at the lot lines to help create a boulevard effect down all of our
streets. And, then, we get into the home styles. Multiple home styles are shown here.
These would be the style with the MEW frontage or park site frontage, as well as this
one here. Then we have the commercial typical style. We are showing high quality
materials. This building here is located in Eagle River in Eagle right on the corner of
Eagle Road and State Street. It, basically, has stone work, stucco, awnings, a lot of
architectural bump outs and creating some interest in the facades. Roof detailing
pitches, so you don't end up with just a flat -- flat building. And, then, just a little bit more
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of a detailed view close up showing Saguaro connection right here, traveling through
the site up to our future connection here. Next. Thank you. We can skip this one for
now. And let's go one more. And, again, just the overall view showing the green space
and the street trees and whatnot. And staff did recommend that we bring some
townhome views, so that you could get an idea of the quality of the materials and the
style of those buildings. Get a comfort level there. I wanted to show a couple more. If --
do you have a machine that I could actually throws these up there? Hopefully, these
elevations will provide you with a sense of the style that we are planning for this area.
Basically, again, just examples of the -- all two story, different roof pitches, different
materials, such as stucco and stone and real lap siding, high quality roof materials, that
sort of thing. Just to give you a comfort level there. And with that I will open it up for
questions.
De Weerd: Okay. Council, any questions?
Bird: I have none, Mayor.
Borton: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Borton.
Borton: I might have missed it on the earlier -- one of the earlier photos. Is there a
pathway or sidewalk along Chinden on the other side of the fence?
Hull: Yes, there is. We have got a five foot meandering sidewalk.
Borton: Is that the black line?
Hull: Yeah. We might be able to go back on the Powerpoint for that. See the pathway
here?
Borton: Okay.
Hull: It wraps around, goes all the way down Jericho as well. And the sidewalks, of
course, follow the street throughout the development as well.
Borton: Thank you.
De Weerd: Anna, doesn't the city recommend eight feet on the highway side?
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I believe that ITD has indicated that
they will accommodate the right of way for -- it's a little bit up to ITD as how it works right
now on 20-26. But I think -- I thought we had been doing ten foot, actually.
De Weerd: Yeah. I know it was more than five, but--
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Canning: And sometimes those can be within the ITD right of way if they have given
sufficient -- if they have dedicated sufficient right of way that can be within that
easement -- or can be within the easement. I can try and find the ITD letter for this one
and see if that is --
De Weerd: I think that is what we required of Irvine; right? Okay. And what is the right of
way that you're getting on Chinden?
Hull: In working with ITD I believe 70 feet from center line. It would be 140 total in this
section.
De Weerd: Okay. And, Anna, was that also what they were requesting?
Canning: I didn't hear the applicant's response, ma'am.
De Weerd: It was 70 feet, 140 from center line.
Canning: ITD is requesting 100 feet from center line, ma'am.
De Weerd: Okay. So, that could be within the right of way and enlarged or widen
pathway?
Canning: Typically her 100 foot section does include -- there is sufficient room for a ten
foot pathway.
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you.
Hull: Madam Mayor, the latest request from ITD in this section is, actually, 70 feet.
There is -- there is a neck down portion because of the existing development on
Castlebury on the north side -- both Castlebury and Castlebury West. Maybe if we could
zoom out to a different slide that shows the aerial, maybe. Yeah. That will work. With
Castlebury West here built out and the other commercial developments and whatnot,
this section from Meridian Road to Locust Grove, they have determined that the 70 foot
per side is what they are okay with. That's with the multiple meetings with Sue Sullivan
and Kevin Sublon and I believe that we have got a letter in the file from them to that
effect.
De Weerd: Okay.
Hull: I'll have to work with staff to make sure that they have got the most current letter
from lTD.
Canning: It's a letter dated yesterday. It states 100 feet still, Phil.
Hull: Okay. Well, we will have to work with Sue and see what happened with today's
letter, so --
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De Weerd: That sounds like a good plan.
Hull: Yes. Yes, it does.
De Weerd: Okay. Council, any further questions?
Borton: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Borton.
Borton: Maybe, too, that sounds like that's a big difference. That's a big problem, 100
feet versus 70. Is it?
Hull: It would have an effect on our frontage, yes. We are showing a 35 foot landscape
buffer and, then, I believe it's a ten foot setback for the building, so we are over 110 to
the first building, so -- that's the commercial area. So, we would have to take a look at
that to see what effect that would have.
Borton: Okay.
De Weerd: And, I'm sorry, I didn't catch. Did you address the width of the sidewalk?
Hull: I believe we are showing five feet, but we can certainly meet whatever city staff
wanted and ITD requested there. Eight feet or ten feet or whatever that needs to be.
That's not a problem.
De Weerd: That's a pretty high speed road. It would be nice to have a wider path.
Hull: You bet.
De Weerd: Okay. If there is no further questions, Council, I appreciate your testimony
and -- is there any member of the public who would like to testify on this application?
None of our high school seniors wish to testify? All of you are here to get extra credit -- I
think you get extra credit if you testify. No?
Rountree: Don't encourage them.
De Weerd: Okay. Council, do you need any further information? Okay. Applicant, last
word. Any further word? Okay. Staff?
Canning: Madam Mayor, we are looking for any letter from Sue Sullivan that might state
70 feet, but the letter from Mr. Sublon regarding the variance still states ITD
recommends the developer provide adequate setback 100 feet to accommodate future
highway improvements. So, that's from yesterday.
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De Weerd: Okay. Council, I guess we have a couple options if you're ready to make a
decision on this this evening, we'd entertain a motion to close the Public Hearing. If
you'd like to continue it to get clarification from ITD, we can certainly continue that
another week.
Borton: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Borton.
Borton: I think it's a pretty big issue. I'd like to see clarification from ITD on that. Thirty
feet is a big chunk and I know the applicant agrees with that. So, I'd move to continue
the Public Hearing, 13, 14 and 15, for a couple weeks? Two weeks? One week? In
order to get that clarification.
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, if -- I don't think it would take much
time to get clarification on that, if you're worried about that consideration. It's just a
matter of agendas -- full agendas and that's fine, but one week would be sufficient for
us.
De Weerd: Okay. Do I have a second?
Wardle: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. I have a motion to continue Items 13,14,15 to May 16th. All those in
favor say aye. Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 16:
Public Hearing: V AR 06-004 Request for a Variance to construct an
access to Chinden Boulevard, a State Highway, for Hightower
Subdivision by Hightower, LLC - southwest corner of Chinden Boulevard
and Jericho Road:
De Weerd: Okay. Item 16, since it is attached to Items 13 through 15, I will open that
Public Hearing, VAR 06-004, and ask for a motion to continue.
Borton: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Borton.
Borton: I move we continue Item 16, VAR 06-004, to May 16th.
Wardle: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. I have a motion to continue Item 16 to May 16th. All those in favor say
aye. Any opposed? Please note for the record that Mr. Rountree did -- he abstained.
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MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSTAIN.
Item 17:
Public Hearing: AZ 06-006 Request for Annexation and Zoning of 10.01
acres from RUT to C-G zone for Kniahthill Center Subdivision by Sea 2
Sea, LLC - southwest corner of Linder Road and Chinden Boulevard:
Item 18:
Public Hearing: PP 06-005 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 4
commercial lots and 1 common lot on 10.01 acres in a proposed C-G zone
for Kniahthill Center Subdivision by Sea 2 Sea, LLC - southwest corner
of Linder Road and Chinden Boulevard:
De Weerd: Okay. Items 17 and 18 are public hearings on AZ 06-006 and PP 06-006. I
will open these two Public Hearings with staff comments.
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, the next project before you, as I try
and multi-task with Mr. Hull -- is the Knighthill project. Excuse me, Madam Mayor,
Members of the Council. I need to switch out of this application. This is the Knighthill
Center project. It is located on the southwest corner of Linder and Chinden. It is a
request for annexation and zoning and preliminary plat approval. Madam Mayor,
Members of the Council, I'm pausing, because Mr. Hull does have the letter from Sue. I
don't know if you want to reconsider it or -- it does state 70 feet. So, I'd just -- I pause
and ask if you want to revisit that issue or just continue. Or if you still want --
De Weerd: So, he has a different letter than you have?
Canning: Yes.
De Weerd: What's the date on that letter. He will have to tell me. So, he will tell me right
now. It's dated March 30th and it is from Sue Sullivan.
De Weerd: Okay. Well --
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: You have one from these. Let's go these and, then, come back to that, if it's okay
with the maker of the motion and the second. Get it done with tonight. That was the only
thing holding up --
De Weerd: We do have a motion that has passed to continue it. After these two opened
public hearings, I would ask for direction from counsel.
Canning: Thank you, Madam Mayor.