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HomeMy WebLinkAboutApril 25, 2006 C/C Minutes ., '\ Meridian City Council April 25, 2006 Page 37 of 43 Borton: Second. De Weerd: Okay. There is a motion to approve Item 16 with comments as noted. Mr. Berg. Canning: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Yes, Anna. Canning: I'm trying -- I believe that the staff report and the conditions of approval currently require a full one hundred and I believe what the applicant is asking you -- or, I'm sorry, one hundred feet from center line for the right of way dedication for this project. I believe what the applicant is asking you to approve is up to one hundred feet and that he would negotiate further with ITD on what that is. So, if -- I just -- if you could make that clear what you're approving, that would be helpful. Wardle: Madam Mayor, just to clarify my comments in regard to right of way, what I heard the applicant say is that they could meet the specific requirements that ITD had given the section line, which were required in the staff report and any further negotiations certainly their -- I'm not necessarily requiring it in my motion. Second agrees? Borton: Second agrees. Between the applicant and lTD. Wardle: Is that clear? Canning: Yes, sir. Thank you. De Weerd: Okay. Mr. Berg. Roll-Call: Bird, nay; Rountree, absent; Wardle, yea; Borton, yea. MOTION CARRIED: TWO AYES. ONE NAY. ONE ABSENT. Item 16: Continued Public Hearing from April 11 2006: PP 05-037 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 175 single-family residential building lots and 12 common lots on 38.5 acres in a proposed R-8 zone for Irvine Subdivision by Dyver Development, LLC - southeast corner of Ten Mile Road and Chinden Boulevard: Item 17: Continued Public Hearing from April 11 2006: AZ 05-067 Request for Annexation and Zoning of 6.9 acres from Ada County RUT to R-15 Medium-High Density Residential zone for Casa Meridiana by Insight Architects - 1777 Victory Road: ~ Meridian City Council April 25, 2006 Page 38 of 43 Item 18: Continued Public Hearing from April 11 2006: CUP 05-060 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for a 32-unit multi-family development in a proposed R-15 Medium-High Density Residential District for Casa Meridiana by Insight Architects - 1777 Victory Road: De Weerd: Okay. Thank you. Items 17 and 18 were requested to be continued to May 9th. Berg: Madam Mayor, do you want me to get Mr. Rountree? De Weerd: Yes. Okay. I need a motion to continue Items 17 and 18. Rountree: So moved. Wardle: Second. De Weerd: That was to May 9th. Okay. All those in favor say aye. All ayes. Motion carried. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. De Weerd: We have already done 19.1-- yes, Mr. Wardle. Wardle: Madam Mayor, before -- if you have comments or we close the meeting, the clerk and I have a question about next week's meeting. We have two items on the agenda, which have been scheduled and noticed, so they continue to appear on the agenda. They are the two comp plan amendments, one for South Eagle Road and Victory and the other for South Wells Street. Both of those projects were recommended to come forward from the Planning and Zoning Department with specific applications. Anna, did you -- Canning: Yes. I haven't said anything. No. Wardle: Oh. And they are now in the pipe line at the Planning and Zoning here -- or the Commission. Either Anna or Bill, do you have an update as to when. those may -- Canning: The Wells property -- I forget the date. They are both very close to being ready to come up to you. We can get you specific dates for your hearing next week, probably. We can anticipate a date for you and have those continuing -- continuance dates ready. Wardle: And, Council, I guess the question from a scheduling standpoint was we have the ability to hear them without the applications themselves. However, it has been kind of a recommendation from Planning and Zoning and, then, also a consensus -- I'm just confirming the consensus -- that we continue these two Comp Plan amendments until the specific applications come forward; is that -- okay? ~ Meridian City Coundl April 25, 2006 Page 39 of 43 Bird: Yeah. Don't bother me. Rountree: Fine with me. Nary: Madam Mayor? Bird: Works okay with me. De Weerd: Mr. Nary. Nary: And I think when I had a discussion with Mrs. Canning -- that's why I was pointing over there. I don't think the anticipation was having a hearing next week anyway. I thought the -- I thought what I had understood is they were -- there was a scheduling meeting or a scheduling time for that anyway, so that -- wasn't that correct? Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, Mr. Nary, I have made that statement in the past and, then, I thought with my feeble mind these days, maybe I better go back and check the record. But I haven't had a chance to do that. I can't remember if this is the date we scheduled them to, thinking we would be able to have the hearing -- and I'm getting a nod from Mr. Berg. So, that -- I'm not sure. But, in any event -- Wardle: I'm going to -- Council, I'm going to ask -- I'm going to ask the clerk just to post a note that we will be -- when he notices this that we will be continuing it to a date certain and, certainly, the public can come and -- if they want and we can give the date we are going to hear it. So, just if you get calls. Thank you. De Weerd: Okay. Council, I have a couple of things. I did pass to you a pamphlet. Mr. David Bulger at Clarence Jones' retirement party gave him a time piece for retirement. Well, his time piece is a street clock and he has asked for my office to make suggestions on what that should be. I thought it would give to recommendations to our City Hall committee, as we feel it can be designed in the City Hall plaza, and so I will just bring it to the City Hall committee for their consideration and design as to whatever we do with City Hall. But those are the two things that are closest to the design of the current clock we have in Generations Plaza, as well as it's closely aligned to our street lights as we could possibly get. I do have a letter here from the city of Eagle regarding the annexation meeting or their Comprehensive Plan change that they have in front of the county. Will, did I give you a copy of that? I thought you would find that interesting. I also have here some information on ASAFA. It is the Treasure Valley Special U.S. Attorney project. It has information -- kind of a talking point white paper. It looks to be -- the legislature put money towards it this year to match what the Treasure Valley Partnership has prepared and this is a follow up to an earlier mention of this and so that's just for your information. If you will pass that down to the attorney as well. And to the clerk. And one final piece -- oh. And, chief, I have a copy for you as well. And the final piece is some -- there was a coalition on public transportation put together by the Boise Metro and Chamber of Commerce and in cooperation with the other chambers, , Meridian City Coundl April 25, 2006 Page 40 of 43 local legislators, businesses, and here is a proposal on local option funding legislation for transit. They just pass that out for comment right now, so that's an FYI as well. Nary: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Mr. Nary. Nary: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I just wanted to make you aware to follow up on two projects that I know are of interest to you. Now, the Ada County Highway District commissioners are taking up the matter of the vacation of the alley on the creamery property tomorrow with the current property owner. I was going to attend just in case there were any questions or issues that come up that have an interest to the city. Hopefully, with all the good will we have with the highway district, it will be closer to the beginning of the meeting, rather than the end. And, then, on Thursday night, in conjunction with the letter you received there from the city of Eagle, the Ada County Planning and Zoning Commission was taking up the matter of the Eagle area of impact change that's related in that letter. I was going to attend that as well. We have -- I've had -- tried to get in touch with the attorney handling that matter for the city of Eagle. I have not been successful yet. We'd simply ask for some assurance from the city of Eagle in regards to the land use expansion that we are looking at north of Chinden that would be in their proposed impact area. They had indicated in our earlier meeting they had no objection to that. I just wanted some further assurance of that for the city. We haven't received that yet. We have simply received the letter we have got today. So, they will probably make their feelings known about that as well Thursday. But I will be able to report that back to you next week. Bird: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Oh, yes, Mr. Bird. Bird: We did -- we did get -- receive our RFQs for architects and construction manager. What was it, seven architects and eight or nine -- our committee met last Thursday -- Thursday or Friday. Berg: Friday. Bird: And we are getting these all out to all the committee. We are going to meet May 3rd and start the process of going with and hopefully by the 3rd of -- or the 16th of May we will bring a recommendation back to Council. We hope to have it at that time. So, we had good response. I think we have got a very very are good level headed committee. And I think we will get started with the City Hall. And, Joe, did I answer your question okay when you e-rnailed that -- Borton: You are the only one who tried, so I appreciate that. Meridian City Coundl April 25, 2006 Page 41 of 43 Canning: Madam Mayor, may I -- I have a question to ask if it's okay. I don't think it's a very long answer. About six or eight months ago we started trying to have the Findings ready for you to approve the night of the hearing. I think the confusion it has created is perhaps not worth the benefit at this point and I would ask if Council Members or Mayor had a very strong feel about it or if we can go back to having Findings prepared for the following hearing. It's particularly difficult, because we are bundling everything in the same staff report. So, although you may not have comments on the annexation or the preliminary plat, if you have got comments on the CU, did we really need to redo the whole Findings and I think it would make the clerk, in particular, a lot happier. Bird: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Yes, Mr. Bird. Bird: It would make one Councilman a lot happier and I think it would make your staff a lot happier. I think we need to go back to the old way. Sometimes trying new ways are successful, but I think this time, because, you know, we get different testimony sometimes, the public testimony and stuff, that has happened between the Planning and Zoning and ours and, then, you -- your staff works theirself writing it and, then, they have to go back and rewrite it. So, I'd like to go back -- this is one Councilman that would like to go back to the old way and decide the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law and, then, write it and pass it. I mean I just think it would be fair to the staff. Less time. De Weerd: Okay. Mr. Wardle. Wardle: Madam Mayor, I actually like to have the Findings available, because I think it gives -- I have seen writing the Findings and, then, the staff report becomes a more thorough observation of the overview of the project and certainly I know it's a staffing issue. The one thing that I would hate to see is if we go to Findings, the thing I saw in the past -- and I understand the new process, but I have seen in the past -- and that is prepare the Findings and, then, we would get Findings sometimes a number of weeks after the application had been through and so that would be a concern of mine of this change would have that happen. Canning: Madam Mayor, Members -- Councilman Wardle. I think if they are small changes we can still do it the next week, because the main part of the Findings document is that staff report. And we will still have that staff report prepared for you. There is no doubt -- question about that. It's just incorporating those changes into it and if they are minor, then, we can get those back to you the next week. It shouldn't really slow things up more than it is now. If they are major, I do ask sometimes that you put it off until the minutes are available, because I can't record all the necessary details sometimes when I'm up here by myself and that's the only time I ask if it gets complicated or if we need to review the minutes is when I ask for it to be longer. But I think we could try for a week in all cases and, then, just ask for exceptions if needed. t Meridian City Caundl April 25, 2006 Page 42 of 43 Bird: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Mr. Bird. Bird: You know, after about my first year we never had problems with Findings and I think Ron and Tammy and Charlie and Bill -- two weeks is usually sufficient. That gives the staff plenty of time, so they are not rushed and once you start rushing -- our first year or two that I was on there, we -- it was -- sometimes we didn't even get Findings, but, anyway, we got that taken care of. Rountree: For months. Bird: For months. But, anyway, I think -- I don't know how President Wardle, thinks, but I -- two weeks would be sufficient for me to come back. And I think the applicants would have no problem with that. Wardle: Madam Mayor, again, just so that I -- I mean I want to make clear that today there is an expectation that the Findings be done when it comes to the Council and that's a compressed time period for staff members. I just don't want to see the expectation for the urgency slip in that manner. So, if we need to formalize it in a week or two weeks, make it a staff policy, that's fine. Just let it be consistent. Canning: And it used to be that we routinely schedule it out for two weeks. I think that of the easy ones where there aren't much comments, like many of the ones you had tonight, we could turn around in a week pretty easily. I'll leave that up to Council. But I really think that the -- it's -- we tried to make this change to speed things up. It doesn't seem to be working. And I'm not sure it speeds things up much if there is a development agreement tied to it anyway, because it takes a couple months to get all that worked out. It seemed to have been more of an issue on the Conditional Use Permits, which you're no longer the decision-making authority on those, so I think a lot of the urgency is gone. De Weerd: Okay. Anything further? Okay. Thank you, Anna. Canning: Thank you. I'm sorry, I probably should have put that on a department report, but -- De Weerd: No. That's fine. Would entertain a motion to adjourn. Rountree: So moved. Borton: Second. De Weerd: All those in favor? MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.