HomeMy WebLinkAbout2021-10-26 Work Session MinutesMeridian City Council Work Session October 26, 2021.
A Meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 4:30 p.m., Tuesday, October
26, 2021, by Mayor Robert Simison.
Members Present: Robert Simison, Joe Borton, Luke Cavener, Treg Bernt, Jessica
Perreault, Brad Hoaglun and Liz Strader.
Also present: Chris Johnson, Bill Nary, Steve Siddoway, Keith Watts, Berle Stokes, Joe
Bongiorno and Dean Willis.
ROLL -CALL ATTENDANCE
Liz Strader _X_ Joe Borton
_X_ Brad Hoaglun _X_ Treg Bernt
X Jessica Perreault _X Luke Cavener
_X_ Mayor Robert E. Simison
Simison: Council, I will call the meeting to order. For the record it is October 26, 2021,
at 4:30 p.m. We will begin this afternoon's City Council work session with roll call
attendance.
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Simison: Next item is the adoption of the agenda.
Bernt: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Bernt.
Bernt: There is a change to the adoption -- or to the agenda this evening. We are going
to -- we are going to add -- Item 12 was added due to pending 11/3 meeting cancellation.
So, with that I make a motion to approve the agenda as amended.
Hoaglun: Second the motion.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to approve the agenda as amended. Is there
discussion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay? The ayes have it.
MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES.
CONSENT AGENDA [Action Item
1. Approve Minutes of the October 12, 2021 City Council Work Session
2. Approve Minutes of the October 12, 2021 City Council Regular Meeting
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3. J.L Towne Cherry Blossom Place Partial Release of Utility and
Drainage Easement
4. TM Creek Subdivision No. 5 Pedestrian Pathway Easement No. 2
5. TM Creek Subdivision No. 5 Pedestrian Pathway Easement No. 1
6. TM Creek Subdivision No. 5 Pedestrian Pathway Easement No. 3
7. Final Order for Pura Vida Ridge Ranch No. 1 (FP-2021-0043) by B & A
Engineers, Inc., Located at 3727 E. Lake Hazel Rd.
8. Development Agreement Between the City of Meridian and Maureen
Miller and Richard Price (Owners) and Michael Miller, HomeFound
Group (Developer) for Ambles Run Subdivision (H-2020-0124) Located
on Lot 26, Block 1 of the County Dunwoody Subdivision,
Approximately 1/4 mile East of N. Locust Grove Rd. and 1/2 mile South
of Chinden Blvd.
9. Agreement Between Ada County Emergency Medical Services District
and City of Meridian as an American Heart Association Training Site
10. Agreement Between the City of Meridian and the Idaho Humane
Society for Extension of Term of Fiscal Year 2021 Animal Welfare and
Enforcement Agreement Through December 31, 2021
11. Donation Agreement Between City of Meridian and Together Treasure
Valley to Support a New Cornhole Amenity in Settler's Park
13. Resolution No. 21-2295: A Resolution of the Mayor and the City
Council of the City of Meridian, Reappointing John Nesmith to Seat 5
and Spencer Martin to Seat 6 of the Meridian Impact Fee Advisory
Committee; and Providing an Effective Date
14. Preliminary City of Meridian Financial Report - September 2021
Simison: Next item is the Consent Agenda.
Bernt: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Bernt.
Bernt: I move that we approve the Consent Agenda, for the Mayor to sign and for the
Clerk to attest.
Borton: Can we pull 12 to a discussion item?
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Bernt: Pull 12? Okay. I was just going to have that done during the discussion. Okay.
So --
Simison: I don't have a second, so motion --
Borton: Second the motion.
Simison: Okay. I have a motion and a second. Is there any discussion on the motion?
Borton: If the motion maker would be willing to pull Item 12 for a brief comment from
Keith Watts.
Bernt: Yes.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor? And this is in relation to Item 12?
Borton: Correct.
Hoaglun: Okay. Thank you.
Bernt: Does our motion maker amend their motion to approve item -- approve the
Consent Agenda, but remove Item 12?
Bernt: Yes.
Simison: Does second agree?
Borton: Yes.
Bernt: That was a long process to get that done.
Simison: Yes. Exactly. So, I have a motion and a second approve the Consent Agenda
with the removal of Item 12. Is there a discussion? If not, all in favor signify by saying
aye. Opposed nay. The ayes have it. The Consent Agenda is agreed to.
MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES.
ITEMS MOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA [Action Item]
12. Approval of Purchase Order 22-0104 to Hughes Fire Equipment for
three (3) new Fire Engines for the Not -To -Exceed amount of
$2,059,641.99
Simison: Item 12 was pulled from the Consent Agenda, so Item 12 sits before you.
Council, do I have a motion or discussion on Item 12?
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Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: Keith Watts is here. I would love to hear just a quick snapshot outlining what it
is in light of discussions that have been going around. Couldn't hurt. You're here. You're
the pro and --
Watts: Sure. Thank you, Councilman Borton, Mr. Mayor, Council Members. So, the
reason this was added, of course, was because next week's Consent Agenda is a
possible cancellation. We have gone through the process for the last -- many years, I
guess -- well, three or four fire engines that we purchased we purchased off of this HDAC
cooperative contract that's been competitively bid. The fire truck quote was due to expire
at the end of this month and the process that we get is once the requester has me start
the procurement process, then, we actually get a quote from the manufacturer for the
vehicles. We, then, send it into the governing body of the cooperative contract. They
double check it against the contract to make sure that everything is correct and the pricing
and the terms are per the agreement that was officially bid and awarded. That took a little
longer than expected. Actually, the last two trips that we have ordered have taken quite
a while for them to get back to us, because I assume they are busy as well. But they just
got back to us a couple of days ago confirming that everything was approved and per the
contract and that's at the point when we actually print the PO and put it on the agenda. I
tend not to do that until I have confirmation of the correct pricing. That's the urgency of
getting this -- I actually got them to extend it one week through next week, but, then, when
I heard the agenda was possibly cancelled, I didn't want to risk the value of those trucks
going up, because like every manufacturer every week they have increases and they
could not hold their price past next week and that's why -- that's the urgency for coming
to you today.
Simison: Council, are there questions or comments?
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: Mind hearing from chief or someone in the department -- about these
replacements or they are -- I think they are for the new fire stations and --
Watts: And I can let you know -- I know one of them is a replacement. There is one
replacement and one for Station 7 and one for Station 8, just for clarification, and the
replacement was scheduled.
Hoaglun: And, Mr. Mayor, follow up.
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
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Hoaglun: And the time frame to get these trucks is quite far out; correct?
Watts: Correct. It's 12 months to 18 months. We are -- we are hearing longer and longer
lead times every week. It's -- as you can imagine, the pandemic has really put a bind on
the supply chain. We have products that are just getting cancelled with no delivery dates.
That's -- that's pending. So, getting on the schedule and getting them actually in the
queue is critical.
Hoaglun: Thank you.
Borton: That's a good question, Mr. Mayor.
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: Along with that are the prices that were set with the PO -- are they locked?
Watts: Correct. They are. So, that's -- the reason for getting it is we -- if it takes longer
to deliver that's on them. We are locked into our price today.
Simison: Council, any further questions or comments? Or a motion?
Bernt: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Bernt.
Bernt: I move that we approve Purchase Order 22-0104 to Hughes Fire Equipment for
three new fire engines for the not to exceed amount of $2,059,641.99.
Perreault: Second.
Hoaglun: Second the motion.
Simison: I have a motion and a second. Is there discussion? If not, all in favor signify
by saying aye. Opposed nay. The ayes have it and the item is agreed to.
MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES.
DEPARTMENT / COMMISSION REPORTS [Action Item]
15. Parks and Recreation Department: Fiscal Year 2022 Net -Zero Budget
Amendment in the Amount of $9500.00 for Together Treasure Valley
Grant for Cornhole Boards at Settlers Park
Simison: Next up is Item 15 Under Department/Commission Reports, which is Parks and
Recreation Department fiscal year 2022 net zero budget amendment in the amount of
9,500 dollars. Turn this over to Director Siddoway.
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Siddoway: Thank you, Mayor, Members of the Council. This is a net zero budget
amendment to add a grant into our budget. Earlier this summer we had the opportunity
to apply for a grant from Together Treasure Valley and several -- four months went by, we
thought they must have selected something else, but we were just recently notified that
they liked the idea of adding cornhole boards into Settlers Park, which is what we had
requested the grant for. They are heavy concrete -- smooth concrete cornhole boards.
We would like to add them into where we have our currently underutilized horseshoe
courts. There are grass strips in between each of those and we would simply add them
to one of those pods. So, they wanted to make an announcement of award recipients
later this week and I didn't want to attend that without coming to you first. So, appreciate
the quick reviews by Legal by Jessica, Mayor, Finance to get this on tonight. Lots -- lots
more details were in the memo that I sent, so I think I will just stand for any questions.
Simison: Council, any questions?
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: When can we expect the first Meridian cornhole tournament to take place?
Siddoway: They are already happening. We started cornhole leagues during COVID last
year and we have got a -- we have got a tournament -- I will just put in a plug -- coming
up at the -- the HomeCourt using for cornhole -- it's one that benefits the -- the Christmas
gifts that we buy for children in the community and we actually have -- it's both volleyball
and cornhole as two separate tournaments that benefit the same thing. Our list of -- of
cornhole -- or, sorry, the volleyball side is bigger than it has been in the past and we are
still looking for cornhole players, but out here, specifically in the park, you know, we will
get these installed next spring and have them open next summer.
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: First I would just like to say thank you to the Parks and Rec staff for just, you
know, researching the different opportunities and to have a grant come to us is fantastic.
I know you all keep your ear to the ground about different ways that we can make these
small improvements and they all add up over time and so appreciate the staff's attentive
-- attentiveness to these kind of opportunities and, then, although Together Treasure
Valley isn't here, we really appreciate that they were -- that they approved the grant
request from Meridian. So, thank you for -- for doing that.
Siddoway: Thank you. And if I -- you know, assuming this is moving towards approval,
when I see -- if I see -- I'm planning to see them on Thursday. When I do I will pass that
on.
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Perreault: Thank you very much.
Simison: Council, any further questions or comments? Or a motion?
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: I move that we approve the fiscal year 2022 -- a net zero budget amendment
in the amount of 9,500 dollars for Together Treasure Valley grant for cornhole boards at
Settlers Park.
Cavener: Second.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to approve Item 15. Is there any discussion? If
not, Clerk will call the roll.
Roll call: Borton, yea; Cavener, yea; Bernt, yea; Perreault, yea; Hoaglun, yea; Strader,
yea.
Simison: All ayes. Motion carried and the item is agreed to.
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Siddoway: Thank you.
16. Valley Regional Transit (VRT) Presentation on Transit Development
Plan (TDP) and Service Update
Simison: Thank you, Steve. Next item on the agenda is Valley Regional Transit
presentation on transit development plan and services update. I will turn it over to
Stephen.
Hunt: Good evening, Members of the Council. Glad to be here. Stephen Hunt with Valley
Regional Transit. Development director. So, tonight's presentation is in follow up to the
2022 budget development process and in an effort to be in front of the Meridian Council
more often, keep you informed about plans for and the performance of transit services in
Meridian. There will be two things on the presentation tonight just talking about the
development timeline for the transportation development plan and how that's integrated
with the streamlined FY-23 budget development process. We will also review the most
recent service -- or performance for services and -- and an update on the Route 30. So,
the -- the Valley Regional Transit Board of Directors approved the FY-23 to '27
transportation development plan and FY-23 budget development calendar at their
October meeting and the slide here, as well as what was in your packet includes a brief
outline of what that development calendar looks like by quarter. The calendar directs the
VRT staff to review the projects that are in -- that are coming up in future years and
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facilitate that -- a discussion about investment priorities with the -- with our stakeholders,
with the regional transit team, the Regional Advisory Council and the VRT executive board
will be presenting what the current priorities are with the board next month in the
November meeting and we will be preparing a recommendation for what prioritization
should be further considered -- consideration in the January meeting. As part of that
process we will be meeting with members of each of our different jurisdictions, their
stakeholders, and getting input on both near term and long term investment priorities and
we will consider how those will impact each of those different jurisdictions and service
investments, capital investments, and investments in specialized services as well. So,
for Meridian the TDP would address service and capital needs for both specialized
services, like Harvest Transit, the -- the VA shuttle and Rides To Wellness. It also would
look at continuing and enhancing services, such as the Route 40 to 42 and the 30. It
would also look at potential connections to other communities. There is interest both to
the north and to the south. Kuna is looking at connections, as well as Eagle and Highway
44 communities about how they can have better connections into the employment and
other opportunities here in Meridian. So, the TDP would be looking at -- look at all those
types of -- of opportunities. Any questions about that so far? Because I'm going to go on
to just the performance review. Perfect. So, as stated in the -- in the memo, if we look at
September performance, September is up 14 percent over August, which is a positive
trend. We see that kind of growth often when -- as we go into the fall. It's good to see
that ticking back up in light of the experience we have been having with COVID. Twenty-
three percent increase on Routes 40 and 42 and so those are outpacing the -- the overall
growth. That's in part because they fell so far. So, Route 40 is a -- is a commute express
service into town -- into downtown Boise, serving Nampa, Caldwell, and Meridian and
that ridership fell off dramatically during COVID by as much as 75 percent. So, we are
starting to see that come back up. It's growing faster -- it's recovering a little bit faster
than the overall, but that's because it had farther to come back up. In September we had
3,200 boardings on Routes 40 and 42, with about 20 percent of those coming from the
stops here in Meridian.
Bernt: Mr. Mayor. Sorry. What's route number 42?
Hunt: Route 42 -- let me jump back to this map here. Is -- is a route that -- it also serves
Nampa, Meridian, and Boise. It makes more local connections here in Meridian. It comes
down Franklin to Ten mile, Ten Mile to Overland and, then, Overland all the way down to
Maple Grove to Town Square Mall and so make stops largely along Overland through --
through Meridian. And that one actually has maintained its ridership better than the 40.
It's a little bit more like the other services in -- in the network, providing all day connections.
It dropped about 20 -- or 30 percent, whereas the -- the Route 40 dropped as much as --
as I said 75 percent initially with -- with COVID. But it's good to start to see those -- those
things come back. Harvest Transit in the month of September had over 900 boardings
and the VA shuttle, which continues to -- that was the service we started just this past
year and it's been slowly growing in terms of ridership. We -- we pay only for the services
that are provided, so that's an important note with that one, is that even though we only
had 14 boardings in the month of September, each one of those were important trips and
those are the trips that we pay for. So, the other takeaway that I wanted to bring out is
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when we talked about delaying the launch of the Route 30, it was in light of the delta
variant coming and the impact that that had on ridership. As you can see on the chart to
the right here we haven't seen a strong recovery in ridership as yet, but we do -- we are
hopeful that this trend in September will continue to go up as we go into the fall and we
should start to see us climb back out of the impacts of COVID. On the year in terms of
the Routes 40 and 42 in Meridian, we are down about 40 percent compared to where we
were in 2020. And that is my report and I would be happy to stand for any questions.
Simison: Thank you. Council, any questions?
Cavener: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: A couple of comments and maybe a couple of questions. So, first, Stephen,
thanks for the memo. I think that that helps and I appreciate that you are going to be
coming more frequently and I think you are going to refine the memo to start answering
some of the bigger questions I think will make this presentation conversation a little more
efficient and I appreciate you being here today. So, you touched on the 30 Pine. At this
point is it a case of that VRT is going to continue to evaluate and, then, say, okay, 90 days
from now we are going to start the route? I know that the -- the target launch date has
been -- naturally become a little bit of a moving target. Just help us understand what will
be the decision point for when VRT will make the decision to launch 30 Pine and how
much notice will the Council and the public be given before that route will begin?
Hunt: Thank you, Councilman Cavener, Mr. Mayor. The -- as -- when we delayed that
service it was, again, in light of the unknowns of COVID -- of the delta variant of COVID
and not knowing where we are going into the fall. We talked about not wanting to start
that service when ridership was continuing to decline. So, what we are happy to see is if
-- we think we are at the bottom now and starting to climb back out in terms of our
ridership. We had -- we had discussed potentially getting to the target of 90 percent of
pre-COVID ridership as -- as a -- as a good marker for when we could restart the 30.
Looking at the charts that were here on the -- on the screen that might be a hard -- that
might be a high target. If we see consistent ridership growth month over month I think we
will revisit that -- that assumption, but our goal was to make sure that we are launching
the service at a time when we see ridership growth and not put it in -- not launch it at the
same time we are seeing ridership continue to decline; right? As far as the amount of
time that we need to -- to do that, three months is -- is a good window between the time
that we decide and when we would launch, but we are trying to be as responsive as we
can and one of the reasons that we want to come back to the Meridian Council as
frequently is just to make sure that you are all stay -- stay aware of where we are and we
will be taking those conversations to the -- to the VRT executive board as well as to when
we would relaunch that service. Last time we spoke we didn't anticipate launching before
January. I don't see that changing.
Cavener: Mr. Mayor, one more.
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Simison: Councilman Cavener.
Cavener: Stephen, just maybe -- back to the conversation with the memo, maybe just a
couple of requests as you are kind of refining your process. I appreciate in your
presentation you showed -- it looks like a monthly breakdown of Harvest. I think your
memo is a quarterly. It would be really great to know kind of this is where we are this
quarter versus where we were last quarter versus where we were last year. So, if that's
not too much work incorporating that in your memo before each time you come before
us, it helps me kind of understand what programs are being successful, which ones we
might want to take another look at. So, as much information that you are comfortable
throwing at us I think it would be appreciated.
Hunt: We can do that.
Cavener: Thanks.
Simison: Council, any additional questions for Stephen?
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: I have got one, because you are here, and maybe it's one to noodle on, but when
we look at the matrix you are showing, is it important or valuable to us to see something
like the ratio of revenue per rider in relation to the total cost of that route or -- or just the
rider matrix. Something that we could use to gauge that this route is successful.
Understanding it doesn't cover the cost. I get that. But if it's -- if the sweet spot is five
percent or seven percent or whatever it is, that -- or certain ridership above which this is
a successful route and below which at some point there is routes that should be canceled,
we have -- do we have that benchmark established from Meridian that you think would be
valuable to us to know whether a route is successful or unsuccessful?
Hunt: Council Member Borton, Mr. Mayor, the -- we typically try and set standards that
are maybe the entire route and we would talk about performance in boardings per hour
is usually the -- the matrix that we are talking about. That has a component of input, right,
so the -- the amount that you are putting into the service is the hourly service and what
you are getting out of it is the number of boardings. You -- and one reason that we typically
use that, as opposed to a cost factor, is because our costs -- when we square up all the
costs over the year usually we get a good number, essentially, like once a year, so you
can get that on a more infrequent basis in terms of a cost per rider. Usually what we use
to track our performance is boardings per hour on the route level. So, we can certainly
come back and report on what the performance of the Route 40 and 42 and 30 are on a
-- on a boardings per hour ratio on a frequent basis, with some -- some conversation
about cost per boarding I think is the matrix that you were trying to get at earlier. What's
the -- what's the cost per -- per boarding on a -- on an annual basis when we have all
those financials complete.
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Borton: Mr. Mayor, if I can --
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: Not -- if you think that's not a valuable matrix I would want you to say, no, that's
-- you are looking at the wrong thing, because that doesn't provide you valuable
information. Here is why. But, conversely, if you think that -- something like that is helpful
to determine -- I don't know when a route is no longer successful versus successful --
unsuccessful. If -- if that's the type of -- kind of line in the sand that would be helpful.
Great. If you think it's not, then, you can -- we can talk offline, too, to help me understand
here is why that's not the matrix you should be looking at, but you should be looking at
something else. Money seems to need to tie into it somewhere. So, I just don't know
how to gauge that yet.
Hunt: Yeah. Councilman Borton, I would say it's -- it's perfectly appropriate to talk about
cost per boarding. The frequency of that reporting might be less than being able to report
on say cost per -- or boardings per hour. So, used together I think that would get you at
the end. Those are both, like I say, good matrix. The kind of industry standard would be
boardings per hour and, then, you -- whenever your financials are complete you can be
able to report on what the cost per boarding are. It's hard to dig super deep on that,
because your costs don't necessarily vary -- well, generally speaking you could say what's
the cost per boarding over the system. It's harder to get it cost per boarding necessarily
for individual routes. Sometimes you -- the way to get at that is just relatively speaking
what's the cost -- or what's the boardings per hour of a route. What does the system cost
per boarding, if that makes sense.
Borton: Yes. You have that.
Hunt: We can get -- we can provide that.
Borton: And the last question on that point --
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: Are other cities that are utilizing these services asking a similar question or -- if
there is another city who utilizes some matrix to determine successful or unsuccessful, I
wouldn't want to reinvent the wheel.
Hunt: Councilman Borton, yes, our other jurisdictions are asking very similar questions
and our responses help -- tend to be consistently back to them, which is the -- the
challenge that VRT has is we connect communities. Jurisdictions tend to talk about
resources within those communities and a lot of the time us trying to meet exactly the way
a jurisdiction wants to see those -- those costs broken out works at exactly the opposite
purpose of what we are trying to do, which is connect them to other communities. So, we
try to show those costs in terms of like what's the whole route cost? What's the system
costs. And, then, we can talk about your share of it. It gets tricky when we drill down to
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say what's Meridian's share of -- like if you were to say what is Meridian paying per
boarding on those routes in Meridian, that's where it gets a little bit more difficult to tease
out.
Borton: Thank you.
Simison: Council, any additional questions? All right. Thank you very much.
Hunt: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council.
Simison: Council, we have reached the end of our work session agenda. Do I have a
motion?
Bernt: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Bernt.
Bernt: I move that we adjourn.
Simison: I have a motion to adjourn the meeting. All in favor signify by saying aye.
Opposed nay. The ayes have it. We are adjourned.
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MEETING ADJOURNED AT 4:56 P.M.
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MAYOR ROBERT E. SIMISON
ATTEST:
CHRIS JOHNSON - CITY CLERK
11-09-2021
DATE APPROVED