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Item 7:
Continued Public Hearing from December 1, 2005: AZ 05-053 Request
for Annexation and Zoning of 5.87 acres from RUT to R-8 zone for Windham
Place Subdivision by Eagle Springs Investments, LLC - 2640 North
Meridian Road:
Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission
January 5, 2005
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Zaremba: I move we close the public hearings on AZ 05-045, PP 05-048, and CUP 05-
046.
Moe: Second.
Rohm: We have a motion to close all three of these public hearings. All those in favor
say aye. All opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Rohm: Okay. Cool. All right. Would someone like to make a motion to --
Zaremba: I don't know if we need any discussion. I think we have had kind of a
consensus the last time and we are only waiting for a couple of issues to be resolved. I
would make the motion if we are ready. Okay. Mr. Chairman, I move that we forward to
City Council recommending approval of AZ 05-045, PP 05-048, and CUP 05-046,
relating to Reflection Ridge Subdivision, to include all staff comments of their memo of
-- for the hearing date of 1/5/2006, received by the city clerk December 29, 2005, with
one minor modification and that is Exhibit B, page one, paragraph 1.1.1, where it says
preliminary plat dated September 12, 2005, I would add to that also clerk date stamped
December 16th, 2005. End of motion.
Moe: Second.
Rohm: We have a motion to forward onto City Council recommending approval of AZ
05-045, PP 05-048, and CUP 05-046. All those in favor say aye. All opposed the same
sign?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 8:
Continued Public Hearing from December 1, 2005: PP 05-055 Request for
Preliminary Plat approval of 24 building lots and 3 common lots on 5.87 acres
in a proposed R-8 zone for Windham Place Subdivision by Eagle Springs
Investments, LLC - 2640 North Meridian Road:
Rohm: Thank you very much. If the rest of this evening goes like this first one, we
might make it through the agenda. Thanks, Dave. Okay. At this time I'd like to open
the public hearings AZ 05-053, PP 05-055, and these are both related to the Windham
Place Subdivision and I'd like to start with the staff report.
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January 5, 2005
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Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission. Windham Place was
originally on the December 1 st, 2005, agenda. The applicant did fail to post, so it was
moved to tonight's agenda, and it was not heard on the 1 st of December. The applicant
is proposing to construct 23 build-able lots. The application material states 24. It looks
like we got 24 on the site, but there is, actually, 23 build-able lots and three common
lots on 5.87 acres, located west -- or, I'm sorry, east of Meridian Road and South of
Ustick on a parcel that is immediately north that was recently approved, Brian Holt
Subdivision, that you saw, I believe, in October or September. The proposed
subdivision is marked in purple on the screen. It's bounded by an existing subdivision
on the east that is Fothergill Point Subdivision that's zoned R-8 to the north. There is
also an existing subdivision bounded by the same applicant a couple years ago,
Highgate Subdivision, also zoned R-8. The Brian Holt that was recently approved is
also zoned R-8. And, then, to the west across Meridian Road there is the Clearbrook
Estates, which is R-4, as you can see on the map there some slightly larger lots. This
property is unique in that it has a very small amount of frontage on Meridian Road and
other than that is really not visible from anywhere else. It's, actually, a hard property to
get a look at. There is the narrow leg there that connects to Meridian Road with an
existing residence and there is some out buildings. And, then, the vacant land located
in the rear of the property and against the existing subdivision to the east there. The
applicant has proposed, like I said, 23 build-able lots. Those consist of 22 attached
structures -- and I'm going to ask the applicant to verify this when they do get up. From
a phone conversation with her she did indicate that there will be 22 attached properties
and one detached property. The detached property being on the corner lot there right
where the marker is there. The rest of them are paired in groups of two as attached
properties. They will be connecting to an existing street in the Fothergill Point
Subdivision. I believe that is Hawk Street. And, then, they will also be -- Brian Holt,
when they came through, it's a -- as you can see it's a very narrow piece of property. At
this east end of Brian Holt they did bring Ridgemont Avenue through and that will be
connecting to this subdivision as well and that's also where this subdivision will be, I
believe, hooking into their sewer and water once it's brought through Brian Holt. There
are several issues that are highlighted in the staff report. The configuration shown on
the screen is -- does differ from what staff recommends that the ultimate configuration
be. The original proposal was to -- was to keep Lot 1, Block 1 -- and let me see if I have
a plat here. This shows it fairly well. It does at least have the lot and block numbers on
it. Lot 1, Block 1, was originally intended to encompass land both on the north side and
the south side of the drain that crosses the property here. It's, actually, the North
Slough is what that is. It does cross Meridian Road at this location, kind of follows the
property line between Brian Holt and this property and, then, it does angle up through
and, then, go along the north boundary of this property. What staff had recommended
is that the property line for that Lot 1, Block 1, be redrawn to include only lands north of
the North Slough and that this open space lot, I believe it's Lot 2, be expanded to
encompass those lands south of the North Slough. It's a little bit difficult to describe in
words in the staff report, so, hopefully, I can accomplish that to make some sense, but
that is what we do propose is that the property line for Lot 1 does follow the North
Slough and keep Lot 1, Block 1, north of that North Slough and, then, that south center
portion being taken into Lot 2 there as an open space lot for the subdivision. Another
Rohm: Thank you, Josh. Commissioners, any questions of staff?
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item to discuss is the multi-use path. Brian Holt Subdivision -- the North Slough takes a
pretty interesting course through here. Once it almost reaches Meridian Road out here
it does take a sharp turn to the south before it crosses Meridian Road. Brian Holt
Subdivision was required to install a ten foot multi-use pathway on the portion of that
that is on their subdivision. We would ask that this application continue the ten foot
multi-use pathway through their property to the extent shown on this plan where the
roadway curves to the east and becomes Hawk Street there is likely not any opportunity
that that pathway will be extended to the north, so we did not feel it was necessary to
take that pathway to the northernmost point of the subdivision. There still is opportunity
-- if somehow that pathway was taken north from that point, there is still opportunity to
connect it. But at this point we did just ask that it be connected to the roadway there to
provide the residents access to it and seemed to be the most logical configuration.
Also, the applicant is required to have a 25-foot landscape buffer along Meridian Road
and be placed in a common lot for the homeowners association. The Lot 1, Block 1, on
Meridian Road is unique in many ways. As I have already discussed, it's a unique
configuration and it's narrow as well. Another way it's unique is that it will retain access
to Meridian Road. It will not take access internally from the subdivision, which is
different from what you usually see on existing homes along arterials. There just really
isn't any other way to make this one work. That was approved by ACHD and staff does
support that. But there still is the requirement for that 25-foot landscape buffer along
Meridian Road. Some other conditions of approval in the staff report relate to the
fencing along the common open spaces. Meridian City Code does restrict the height of
fencing adjacent to open spaces. It can be a four foot closed vision or a six foot open
vision fence on all property boundaries adjacent to the common open space and that
does apply to Lots 4, 9, 10 and 12 of Block 1 that do front on that open space. Another
item also related to that open space lot -- we do ask that the applicant connect that
open space lot to the terminus of the cul-de-sac. Indian Rocks Court is the name of the
cul-de-sac street here. We have asked that they connect -- reconfigure that open space
property so that it does -- it does encompass the end of that cul-de-sac and, then,
provide a pathway connection to the ten foot multi-use pathway for access to that. I
think that's the -- most of the highlights I did want to hit on this. And I think at this point I
will take any questions from the Commission.
Moe: Yes, sir.
Rohm: Commissioner Mae.
Mae: Josh, I just want to make sure I understand in regards to the -- to the pathways --
Wilson: Okay.
Moe: -- on the southwest as far as Block 1, Lot 1.
Wilson: Okay.
Moe: You said that the Brian Holt Subdivision has a pathway at that point?
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Wilson: Correct.
Moe: Are we not going to make a connection there into the --
Wilson: Yeah. That is, actually, a condition in the staff report that they do need to
revise that to connect to that pathway. Yeah.
Moe: Would that be anticipated to be on the south side?
Wilson: It would be on the south side.
Mae: Okay. Thank you.
Rohm: Any other questions of staff? Okay. No further questions, at this time I'd like to
have the applicant come forward, please.
Harris: Good evening, Members -- or Mr. Chairman and Members of the Commission.
My name is Peter Harris. I'm at 6951 Duncan Lane in Boise. And I guess I just wanted
to say we agree with most of the things that staff has recommended for this project. We
certainly don't have any problem with the pathway and we have been working hard with
the landowner that owns Lot 1, Block 1, to try and work out to keep him in his spot there
and he is in kind of a unique situation because of the slough, because the slough is --
there is no way to cross the slough, so that's why he's retaining access to the -- from
Meridian Road. So, we fully intend to connect the path and bring it down and tie it into
the Brian Holt path there and, then, continue the landscaping as it's shown in that
triangular area that's south of the center line of the slough. As the staff mentioned, this
is kind of a unique parcel and it's kind of nice to finish a piece of the puzzle here, so to
speak, in this little piece. I guess I don't have much else to say. The only question I'd
have of staff and -- is that is the 25-foot buffer that is requested on Meridian Road.
There is existing planting and mature planting on that road at this time that is
somewhere in the 12 to 15 foot range and is that not adequate to meet what staff is
looking for?
Wilson: That would be adequate. What we do like to see is that that be in a lot that is
owned by the homeowners association and, therefore, that insures the maintenance of
that lot. And, yeah, if there is mature landscaping existing on the revised landscape that
makes these changes that we have asked for, make sure and denote that and, then, we
can take a look at that. But, yes, that would certainly suffice.
Harris: Great. Well, we have no problem, then, complying with all the conditions of staff
and, you know, we look forward to moving forward with this. Any questions, anybody?
Rohm: Any questions of the applicant?
Harris: Uh-huh.
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Zaremba: Mr. Chairman. Mr. Harris?
Zaremba: Just one thing that was mentioned in the staff report and although you have
said you have agreed with everything, I just want to make sure that we saw the same
thing. On that lot that is still going to have access to Meridian --
Harris: Yes.
Zaremba: -- the condition was that there be some kind of turnaround provided, so
nobody would be backing out onto Meridian and you're aware of that?
Harris: Yes. I'm aware of that and more than willing to comply with that.
Zaremba: Great. Thank you.
Harris: Uh-huh.
Rohm: Okay. Any other questions of the Commission? Thank you.
Harris: Thank you.
Rohm: At this time I'd like to hear from the public and we have one person signed up
and would Peter Harris like to come forward, please?
Borup: That's who just was here.
Rohm: Oh. Oh. You are -- excuse me. I apologize. Would anybody else like to testify
on this application? Okay. No public testimony. At this point in time I'd like to request
any discussion of the Commission before we close the Public Hearing. Anybody have
any comments that they'd like to make on this?
Moe: Mr. Chairman. Josh, in regards to the point of the 25-foot landscape buffer, that
can all be worked out, we don't need to make any modifications to the report?
Wilson: No. That can be worked out, I think, at the next -- what I would like, though, is
for the applicant to just quickly address if my interpretation of what is attached and
detached product on the property is is correct, that they are all attached houses, other
than that one corner lot there.
Rohm: Please come forward.
Harris: Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission, I missed that in my notes. I tried to
look for it and didn't catch that. But, yes, we have no problem with that. Everything will
Rohm: Okay. Any other comments?
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be attached, other than the one corner lot, which you can see is a little bit larger than
the rest of them, so we don't have any problem with that.
Rohm: Okay. Thank you. Okay.
Moe: I have no other comment.
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman?
Rohm: Yes.
Zaremba: I move we close the Public Hearing AZ 05-053 and PP 05-055.
Borup: Second.
Rohm: It's been moved and seconded that we close the public hearings AZ 05-053 and
PP 05-055. All those in favor say aye. Opposed same sign?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Rohm: Thank you. At this time is there any discussion amongst the Commission on
this project before we make a recommendation to the city?
Zaremba: My comment would be I agree with the applicant and the staff that fills in a
spot that is kind of a keyhole to a couple of developments around it. It seems pretty
straight forward to me and if they have agreed to comply with all the requests of the
staff, I'm in favor of it.
Moe: I agree.
Borup: No. When they agree with all the staff comments, it does make it easier.
Rohm: Yeah. Absolutely. At this time I'd like to --
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman, I move we recommend to City Council approval of AZ 05-053
and PP 05-55, related to Windham Place Subdivision and including all staff comments
of the memo for the hearing date of 12/1/2005, received by the City Clerk November
21 st, 2005, with no other changes. End of motion.
Moe: Do we want to reference the Nampa-Meridian Irrigation District comment that
came into the office on the 2nd of December? This was beyond the first comment of
December 1 st.
Continued Public Hearing from December 1, 2005: AZ 05-056
Request for Annexation and Zoning of 6.08 acres from RUT to TN-R and
4.07 acres from RUT to C-C zone for Harks Canyon Creek Subdivision
by JBS Enterprises, LLC - 1845 West Franklin Road:
Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission
January 5, 2005
Page 14 of 93
Zaremba: I agree. It would be wise to include this. This is a Nampa-Meridian Irrigation
District letter of 17 November 2005, received by the City Clerk December 2, 2005, is
included in my motion.
Moe: I will second it.
Rohm: It has been moved and seconded that we forward onto City Council
recommending approval of AZ 05-053 and PP 05-055. All those in favor say aye.
Opposed same sign? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 9:
Item 10:
Item 11:
Continued Public Hearing from December 1, 2005: PP 05~058
Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 29 residential lots, 7 commercial
lots and 7 common lots on 10.15 acres in proposed TN-R and C-C zones
for Harks Canyon Creek Subdivision JBS Enterprises, LLC - 1845 West
Franklin Road:
Continued Public Hearing from December 1, 2005: CUP 05~051
Request for a Conditional Use Permit for a mixed-use development within
300' of a residence for Harks Canyon Creek Subdivision JBS
Enterprises, LLC - 1845 West Franklin Road:
Rohm: Thank you. Okay. At this time I'd like to open the public hearings on AZ 05-
056, PP 05-058, CUP 05-051, and start with the staff report.
Guenther: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission. Harks Canyon
Creek Subdivision is a mixed use development approximately near the existing Harks
Corner, which has the sports bar, gas station, Arctic Circle -- it's all in there. This is also
immediately north of the Ten Mile Creek and also just north of Whitestone Estates.
There is several issues that come up with this site. This is saying that this is a six acre
site. It's, actually, a ten acre site -- well, there it is. Is says it's 4.07 for the TNR. With
that, there is an existing water feature for irrigation and fire protection on site that is a
portion of the amenity for the sports bar that is in the Harks Corner Subdivision, I
believe, is what it's name was under. With this, the applicant is proposing seven
commercial lots, four of them fronting on Franklin Road, as well as two in the corner
over here, which would be attached by a commercial cross-access into the Harks
Corner Subdivision. And also use the water feature as an amenity. With that, there will
be 29 residential lots, which are incorporated as townhouse developments in the central
portion. The northern portion and kind of at an angle here is what the commercial C-N
district will come through as. The neighborhood commercial district -- or community