HomeMy WebLinkAbout2021-09-28 Regular Item#2.
Meridian City Council September 28, 2021.
A Meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 6:00 p.m., Tuesday,
September 28, 2021, by Mayor Robert Simison.
Members Present: Robert Simison, Joe Borton, Luke Cavener, Treg Bernt, Jessica
Perreault, Brad Hoaglun and Liz Strader.
Also present: Chris Johnson, Bill Nary, Joe Dodson, Alan Tiefenbach, Dave Miles, Shawn
Harper, Joe Bongiorno and Dean Willis.
ROLL-CALL ATTENDANCE
Liz Strader _X_ Joe Borton
_X_ Brad Hoaglun _X_Treg Bernt
X Jessica Perreault _X Luke Cavener
_X_ Mayor Robert E. Simison
Simison: Council, we will call the meeting to order. For the record it is September 28th
at 6:00 p.m. We will begin tonight's regular City Council meeting with roll call attendance.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Simison: Next time will be the Pledge of Allegiance. If you would all, please, rise and join
us in the pledge.
(Pledge of Allegiance recited.)
COMMUNITY INVOCATION
Simison: Our next item is the community invocation, which tonight will be delivered by
Pastor Troy Drake of Calvary Chapel. If you would all, please, join us in the community
invocation or take this as a moment of silence and reflection. Pastor Drake.
Drake: Mr. Mayor, Council Members. Will you join me. Lord God, we just -- first off,
would like to just count it all a privilege that we get to talk to you anytime we want to and
you are always there and you incline your ear towards the people that you made and we
just thank you for what we have in the United States, life, liberty and the pursuit of
happiness and -- and what a great free country that we have, Lord, and we just pray that
it would remain that way and thank you for Meridian and what a great city to live and work
in and, you know, God, we are just praying for all the citizens tonight and the first
responders, we just appreciate them so much and we just pray that you keep everybody
out of harm's way and that there would be peace in our community, in this valley tonight
and every night. Lord, we are thinking of those who don't have much and so I just pray if
anybody is hungry or they are afraid that someone would come to their aid, that you would
send someone to help them and -- and, you know, last, but not least, Lord, just praying
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for everybody in this building, all the people who make decisions and -- and serve our
community in the way that they do, I pray that you give them a lot of wisdom, especially
those who are right here in front of me tonight as they discuss the items on the agenda
and -- and make decisions that affect us all in some way and so I just pray, God, that you
give them a lot of grace for serving here and that it would bless the citizens. So, thank
you ahead of time, God, for all those things and it's in Jesus' name we pray, amen. Bless
you guys.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
Simison: Next up is adoption of the agenda.
Bernt: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Bernt.
Bernt: I move that we adopt the agenda as published.
Hoaglun: Second the motion.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to adopt the agenda as published. Is there any
discussion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay? The ayes have it
and the agenda is adopted.
MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES.
PUBLIC FORUM — Future Meeting Topics
Simison: Mr. Clerk, do we have anyone signed up under public forum?
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, we did not.
ACTION ITEMS
1. Public Hearing for Regency at River Valley Phase 3 (H-2021-0059) by
Bach Homes, Located at 3270 and 3280 E. River Valley St. and 2480 N.
Eagle Rd.
A. Request: Modification to the Existing Development Agreements (Inst.
#113005608 — SG and Inst. #2020-062947 — Bach Storage) to
remove the property from the existing agreements and create one
new agreement for the development of a 120-unit multi-family
project.
Simison: Okay. Then we will go into Action Items. First item is a public hearing for
Regency at River Valley Phase 3, H-2021-0059. I will open this public -- this public
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hearing with staff comments and turn this over to Joe.
Dodson: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This is Sonya's project and the applicant is requesting
continuance. So, that's why she's not here tonight. The project is needing to be re-
noticed, because they increased the number of the dwellings, so they wouldn't be able to
be heard tonight appropriately. So, that's why they are just requesting a continuance.
do not -- a continuance to the August -- sorry -- October 19th date is what they request.
Other than that I have literally no idea what else the project is about.
Simison: Fair enough. Council, any questions? Or do I have a motion to continue this
public hearing? Do we have a date that was identified?
Dodson: October 19th.
Simison: October 19th.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: I move that we continue H-2021-0059 to October 19th.
Bernt: Second.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to continue the public hearing. Is there any
discussion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay? The ayes have it
and that item is continued. Thank you.
MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES.
2. Public Hearing Continued from August 24, 2021 for Horse Meadows
MDA (H-2021-0050) by Riley Planning Services, Located at 710 N.
Black Cat Rd.
A. Request: Development Agreement Modification to amend the draft
agreement approved with Horse Meadows Rezone and Preliminary
Plat (H-2020-0060).
Simison: Next item up is a public hearing continued from August 24th, 2021 , for Horse
Meadows MDA, H-2021-0050. We will continue this public hearing with any comments
from staff.
Dodson: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This one I do know about, so we should be better off.
Just a quick recap. This is at the southeast corner of Black Cat and Pine. The original
request was for a DA modification. Because the application was -- well, I should say the
preliminary plat and rezone was approved in December 2020. Within that there was an
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existing provision that required that the servient sites, which I guess this is the best map
here. These three, as well as the existing site, gave up their rights to use the existing
access easement, which is Quarterhorse Lane that goes directly to Black Cat. At the
previous Council hearing there were some issues with what was being proposed, having
a gate across the property, et cetera. However, since, then, the applicant -- the applicant
has discussed this with their own legal counsel and we received a letter on September
16th regarding this. And I guess I will stick it on the plat for now. Regarding the easement
and what the property owners have a right to do. Because of this letter, which I hope
everybody have reviewed. I thought it was very insightful and informative. I learned some
things in it as well. The applicant is now requesting to keep the plat in, basically, what's
on the screen the way it is, including the green space in the southwest corner and they
are proposing to move the easement from along the southern boundary to over the new
public road connection to Pine, which is in line with what the -- their legal counsel gave
them advice to do or I guess an option, really, to do. Instead of providing a gate or
requiring anybody really to relinquish their rights. This is an alternative method that they
can just move the easement, since they are the site that holds the easement physically
on their property. With that being said, staff analyzed the letter, discussed with the
applicant what would be ideal and these are the revised -- the recommended revisions to
two existing provisions in order to keep the project moving forward and it will still be
compliant with all of code, et cetera. Really that's -- that's all that I have. I believe the
applicant may have more, but I will stand for any questions that Council has.
Simison: Thank you, Joe. Council, any questions for staff? Okay. Would the applicant
like to come forward.
Constantikes: I think this -- this is the right one. Mayor and Council, for the record
Penelope Constantikes. Post Office Box 405, Boise, Idaho. 83701 . As Mr. Dodson
indicated, we have two new documents. There is the staff memorandum and the letter
from Kronberg Law. I did want to let you know that Mr. Kronberg is present this evening,
if you have any questions for him specific. So, in our last meeting you all told us to come
back with a better answer and I think we have gotten that done and so that we can move
forward with completion of Horse Meadows Subdivision, then, move on to our final plat.
As Joe indicated, the plat will remain as it was approved in December of last year. The
project team has reviewed the recommended or suggested verbiage for the DA
modification and we are in agreement with those changes. I would like to thank you for
your patience. This has been a long process and I think this is the fifth time I have been
in front of you for this particular project. So, anyhow, the solution that's provided in Mr.
Kronberg's letter allows Mr. and Mrs. Casey with access to a public road with relocation
of the easement. It allows Horse Meadows Subdivision to move forward to final plat. It
provides for Mr. Morgan's safety concerns. If you remember from our last hearing he
came and discussed the fact that the intersection of Black Cat Road and Quarterhorse
Lane is quite hazardous. So, he was all in favor of being able to use the new street in the
new subdivision and with that I would be happy to answer any questions you have.
Simison: Thank you. Council, any questions for the applicant?
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Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: So, is the plan if -- if those adjacent properties are consenting to this solution,
are they, then, going to sign an extinguishment of the easement as it relates to your
parcel? I saw that, this language of extinguish or relocate, but if everyone's in agreement
is the plan -- maybe Mr. Nary knows this, but it's going to be wiped out?
Constantikes: We are just going to relocate the easement.
Borton: So, they would have an easement on the public roadway?
Constantikes; It would technically I think probably sit underneath the public roadway.
ACHD -- I have it in an e-mail from Christy Little that the Highway District will accept a
public road setting on top of that. As a matter of fact, it just says ACHD will allow a public
street to be constructed over the easement area. So, that was -- that was kind of the last
piece of it, so --
Borton: Okay. Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: The question for our Legal is what's the -- in the parade of horribles that could
happen, what exposure really does the city still have, if any, with the solution?
Nary: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, Councilman Borton, I mean nothing is --
nothing is bulletproof in the Legal world; right? And I think Mr. Kronberg's letter points
that out. In the -- in the ranking of liability risk for the city -- again, we are not moving their
road. They are. It's their property. So, if they wish to move it, I mean there certainly is a
potential exposure, but as Mr. Kronberg pointed out in his letter, there is case law that
supports it. So, I don't know the flavor of the adjoining neighbors. I think it's primarily one
neighbor that doesn't want to consent. But, again, he has an easement access. He
doesn't have access to -- he doesn't own any of it. So, all of it belongs to this property.
So, he still will have access. I mean I -- when we discussed it with my team -- I mean if
the access was very difficult to maneuver or to manage or very far away even, I could see
more of a reason of concern, but it isn't. It actually goes to a safer location. So, again, I
don't see exposure to the city. Am I going to say that somebody wouldn't try to do that?
I don't know. But I don't really see much exposure. This is a -- this is a request by the
property owner to reconfigure their own property and still provide access to their adjacent
neighbors. So, from a legal perspective I think it's a fairly minor concern for us. I don't
-- and, again, if you read Mr. Kronberg's letter, if it has to do with roads Mr. Kronberg is
very knowledgeable in that area. So, I don't really foresee any significant risk here.
Borton: Thanks.
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Simison: Thank you. Council, any additional questions?
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor? Penelope --
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: Just to -- just kind of see how this plays out. You have to have -- they need
access to be able to get out of it -- for the three property owners to get out and during
construction I'm assuming you guys have a -- will have a plan for that to make that
happen. You know, that they can go out once this road closes down and vice-versa. So,
do you have any idea on how that -- that works, just to shed some light on that?
Constantikes: Mr. Mayor, Councilman, I don't know specifically, but it's not the first time
that a subdivision development occurred where there was access ongoing. So, I would
assume that it's -- it's probably for some period of time that access will remain as
Quarterhorse Lane and they will work on the northern and the eastern side of the parcel.
Once there is an avenue out to Pine, then, they will start using that route instead. It will
certainly be handled appropriately.
Hoaglun: Okay. Thank you.
Simison: Council, any additional questions for the applicant? Okay. Thank you very
much.
Constantikes: Thank you very much.
Simison: This is a public hearing. Mr. Clerk, do we have anyone signed up to provide
testimony on this item?
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, not in advance we did not.
Simison: Okay. Is there anybody in the room that would like to come on forward and
provide testimony at this time? And we have nobody online this evening. So, it would
just be those in the room. Seeing no one coming forward, does the applicant want any
final -- they are waiving their request for final comments, so --
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: One question just because I'm really curious to Joe. What's --what significance,
if any, is there between submitting a final plat and signing the final plat in these two
conditions?
Dodson: Great question, Councilman Borton. There are actually two separate
applications, two separate steps. So, when they submit a final plat that's kind of step one
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of following the formula approval from Council. That kind of lays the groundwork for
everything. Usually it allows them to start actually constructing the roads. If I were to say
the first one to wait until final plat signature, that just delays things, which we want the
road to be built. That's the point of getting this access constructed. So, we want to have
them have that opportunity, but prior to receiving final plat signature, which is the final
step before we get everything recorded and pretty much the city stands -- or I guess off
of at least the subdivision, minus the individual home building permits, then, we want
everything to be done, completed one hundred percent, as much as we can. There is
other nuances with surety bonds and everything that could come into play, but that should
not occur with any public right of way.
Borton: Thank you.
Dodson: You are very welcome.
Simison: Council, anything else? Then I will let you decide how you want to proceed,
whether it's open dialogue or close the public hearing. Your choice. Obviously.
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: I think this one might be straightforward with this solution. So, I'm going to make
a motion that we close the public hearing on H-2021-0059.
Hoaglun: Second the motion.
Simison: Motion and a second to close the public hearing. All in favor signify by saying
aye.
Borton: Mr. Mayor, I misspoke. I apologize. I was reading the wrong one. So, I'm going
to move to close the public hearing on number two, which is 2021-0050.
Simison: Second agree?
Hoaglun: Second agrees.
Simison: Second agrees. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay. The
ayes have it and the public hearing is closed.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
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Borton: The applicant and our staff, Planning and Legal, have done a good job in trying
to craft a solution here. It makes good sense what's before us in the staff report of today's
date, with the two amended conditions 5.1.D and 5.1.E as reflected in today's staff report.
Seemed to be an appropriate solution to a challenge. So, I'm going to make a motion
that we approve H-2021-0050 a DA modification request, with the conditions as amended
in the staff report of September 29, 2021.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor, I will second the motion.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to approve the item. Is there any discussion on
the motion?
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: I think the date might be September 28th, just to amend that.
Borton: 28th. 28th.
Simison: Second agree?
Hoaglun: Second agrees.
Simison: All right. Clerk will call the roll.
Roll call: Borton, yea; Cavener, yea; Bernt, yea; Perreault, yea; Hoaglun, yea; Strader,
yea.
Simison: All ayes. Motion carries and the item is agreed to. Thank you, everyone, for
your patience.
MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES.
3. Public Hearing for Advanced Sign Landscape Easement Vacation (H-
2021-0060) by B&A Engineers, Located at 2835 E. Lanark St and 155
N. Olson Ave.
A. Request: Vacation to eliminate a 20-foot landscape easement as part
of a property boundary adjustment.
Simison: Next item up is a public hearing for Advanced Sign Landscaping Easement
Vacation, H-2021-0060. Open this public hearing with staff comments.
Tiefenbach: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, Alan Tiefenbach, associate planner.
Hopefully I'm looking better than I did last time you saw me. So, definitely feeling better.
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Handsome as ever now. This is a proposal to -- proposal for the vacation of a landscape
easement. Put up a -- the city map so you can see this. It's four lots, zoned I-L. It's at
East Lanark and Olson intersection, which is basically near the Eagle Road and Franklin.
In May of 2021 there was a certificate of zoning compliance that was approved. While
this process was going on it was discovered that -- so -- so, the -- the four lots are in two
different subdivisions. The top two are in the Olson Subdivision No. 2, the bottom two are
in the Olson Subdivision No. 3. They came in to do a certificate of zoning compliance for
this industrial building that you see here and what was discovered during this process is
this particular subdivision, Olson No. 2, had a landscape easement, if you can see where
my pointer is here. This landscape easement is a note on the plat and it would be roughly
about where this building is here. The intent of this landscape easement was at the time
the southern plat -- they didn't know what was going to go there, whether or not it was
going to be residential. So, this was a residential buffer. Since that time the applicant
has also bought the property to the south, not part of this project, but they own it and that
property is zoned commercial. They -- a condition of approval of the certificate of zoning
compliance was that they vacate this landscape easement. Because this was a
landscape easement, it was not required for them to provide relinquishment letters, it was
just a note on the plat for this landscape easement. With that there is a property --
property boundary adjustment in the process that would be finished if this were approved
this evening. With that, Council, I will stand for any questions if you have any.
Simison: Thank you, Alan. Council, any questions? Seeing none, would the applicant
like to come forward. State your name and address for the record, please.
Canning: Yes, Mayor, Members of City Council, my name is Joe Canning. I'm with BNA
Engineers at 5505 West Franklin Road in Boise and I just wanted to start by saying -- oh,
well, now it doesn't work. This is the first time I think I have been in a room in a long time
where there were three Joes, but now Joe left. Oh, there is? All right. So, we -- we had
four for a while. So, that -- that was -- that's -- that's good to see, I think. It's not a name
you run into too often anymore. Anyway, we really don't have anything to say. I was
going to mention that there were two subdivisions. The one to the south was after the
first one and that's really the reason that first landscape easement was there, but I would
be more than happy to answer any questions that the Council would have.
Simison: Council, any questions for the applicant? Seeing none, thank you.
Canning: All right.
Simison: Appreciate it. Mr. Clerk, anyone signed up to provide testimony?
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, no.
Simison: Is there anybody in the audience that would like to provide testimony on this
item? Would the applicant like to waive their final comments? Would Council like to close
the public hearing?
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Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: I move that we close the public hearing.
Cavener: Second.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to close the public hearing. All in favor signify by
saying aye. Opposed nay? The ayes have it and the public hearing is closed.
MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES.
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: After approving all -- after considering all staff, applicant, and public testimony,
move to approve file number H-2021-0060 as presented in the staff report for today's
hearing date, September 28th, and I don't think we need any modifications. It looks pretty
straightforward.
Cavener: Second.
Simison: Motion and a second. Is there any discussion? If not, Clerk will call the roll.
Roll call: Borton, yea; Cavener, yea; Bernt, yea; Perreault, yea; Hoaglun, yea; Strader,
yea.
Simison: All ayes. The motion carries. The item is agreed to. Thank you very much.
Nice to see you, Anna.
MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES.
DEPARTMENT/COMMISSION REPORTS [ACTION ITEM]
4. City Council Discussion Confirming Correspondence and Feedback to
State Redistricting Commission
Simison: Next item up is Department/Commission Reports. Item 4, City Council
discussion confirming correspondence and feedback of State Redistricting Commission.
Mr. Miles.
Miles: Good evening, Mayor, Council. Happy to be here. I think I will hold my thoughts,
because I was getting to -- about to say -- see, I can't hold my thoughts. I think this is
going to be a short conversation, but, hopefully, it's going to be the shortest one, but it
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could be the longest one tonight. So, we will see. Anyway, we are here to give you a little
update. If you don't know, the Idaho Commission On Redistricting has begun their efforts.
They are ongoing. They were here in City Hall most recently. I think it was September
16th, in which I know the Mayor and Council President both testified, albeit I appreciate
Council President deferred to the Mayor in comments. So, what we decided to do was
draft a letter and memorialize those comments and really looking for feedback from you
all if you have additional questions, additional comments, general agreement alignment
with the draft letter that's in the packet and really highlighting the two aspects that I think
were most important, that Meridian is -- is looking to continue what the rules and
guidelines of redistricting do and try to keep communities of interest as whole as possible
and that applies to Meridian as well as we felt and, then, where any counties do get split
--Ada county in one of the draft map versions was split down into the south area of town
and what was suggested by us is to look at that split more into the north area of town,
north area of the county where cities have already annexed across county borders. It
seems to make more sense there. So, tried to capture those thoughts in the letter,
generally, turn it over to you all for any questions, Mayor and Council, if you have any
feedback on the testimony as well.
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: Thank you, Dave. One thing I would say is it would have been helpful on the
attachment if there had been an overlay of the existing boundaries and the new
boundaries. That would have been helpful to kind of get a visual of that, but also
wondering if -- I assume that -- that the Commission is having the same conversations
with -- with the county and surrounding cities. Have we -- it is unnecessary for us to
compare notes with Ada county on the changes to the proposed boundaries that we have
put together?
Miles: Sure. Mayor and Councilman -- Council Woman Perreault, I have not had any
direct conversations with the county or other cities about what the draft concept map is
that the city came up with. I think -- at least in my experience this is a process that has
many winners and losers however people want to define it and really what our map is
intended to do is be a suggestion to show that it is possible to keep Meridian wholly intact,
understanding that every time you change one line on the left side of the map the right
side changes or change it up to top, the bottom side changes. So, we haven't had that
conversation directly. At least I have not had that conversation directly.
Simison: And if I could add, I think from a practical standpoint we did have one of the Ada
county commissioners in the room, as well as the -- as the current county clerk and while
they did not speak to the substance of the map in a lot of ways we were in alignment with
our letter with the comments that they provided to the commission.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
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Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: Comment, Dave. I thought you hit the nail on the head with --with the comment
about Star as they grow and they are growing westward and, then, they cross a county
boundary it makes sense. It keeps the community together and courts would look upon
that as an okay deal we think and I think it's important for Meridian, as a community of
interest, to have a couple of districts that represent all of Meridian and I know there is
portions of Meridian in another one, but I think the map that you laid out in our areas of
impact makes sense and, you know, it's a giant puzzle once you start going from here
and -- and as they go to the rest of the state you never know where it ends up. But I think
it gives them a good sense of what we would like to see that makes sense for us and,
then, as they try to build that plan and put it all together we will see if that comes out that
way.
Miles: Absolutely. Thank you.
Bernt: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Bernt.
Bernt: Thank you, Dave. Appreciate you, Mayor, as well in your words at the redistricting
meeting a couple weeks ago. In my opinion, you know, Meridian is the second largest
city in the state and with that comes a responsibility and an expectation and I think that
up until now we have been divided sort of in a weird way in the past with our legislative
districts. There are other legislative districts in the state, whether it be, you know, up north
in Coeur d'Alene or Bannock county over in the southeastern part of the state where their
cities are broken up and -- and fewer, you know, legislative districts and I think it makes
a lot of sense, being the second largest city in the state, I believe that it makes sense for
us as well and I think that -- and I have a lot of faith in the redistricting commission that
they will look at that and they will see that -- the importance of why we need to be looked
at probably a little closer than we have been in the last couple times. So, thank you again,
Mayor, for your comments. I agree wholeheartedly with what you said.
Simison: Thank you. Yeah, it would be nice if the state used the prime meridian to start
from creating their stuff, as compared to being the place where they come to at the very
end, which is pretty much what it was last time, so -- Council, any additional comments?
Would you all like to have your name on the letter as well? Okay. Well, we will make that
change and process it appropriately.
Miles: Thank you, Mayor and Council. Appreciate it.
Simison: Thanks, Dave.
Miles: Make sure I was the quickest one.
Bernt: You were. Good job. You know exactly how to do it.
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FUTURE MEETING TOPICS
Simison: All right. Anything under future meeting topics?
Bernt: No, sir.
Simison: Then do I have a motion?
Bernt: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Mr. Bernt.
Bernt: I move that we adjourn the meeting.
Simison: Motion to adjourn. All in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay? The ayes
have it. We are adjourned.
MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 6:29 P.M.
(AUDIO RECORDING ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS)
10 / 12 2021
MAYOR ROBERT E. SIMISON DATE APPROVED
ATTEST:
CHRIS JOHNSON - CITY CLERK
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